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1 00:00:05,120 00:00:10,600 It's a tall order to deliver a fantastic, 10-episode, multi-authored serial drama. It's a tall order to deliver a fantastic, 10-episode, multi-authored serial drama.
2 00:00:11,040 00:00:15,160 To do that with a half-French and half-British team is harder. To do that with a half-French and half-British team is harder.
3 00:00:15,320 00:00:19,400 To work for two broadcasters who, you know, are separated by language, To work for two broadcasters who, you know, are separated by language,
4 00:00:19,560 00:00:21,160 is potentially challenging. is potentially challenging.
5 00:00:21,320 00:00:25,280 But one thing that's really helped us is that the cliches are true. But one thing that's really helped us is that the cliches are true.
6 00:00:25,440 00:00:28,400 A lot of French people speak amazing English. A lot of French people speak amazing English.
7 00:00:28,560 00:00:30,560 A shot from here... A shot from here...
8 00:00:30,720 00:00:33,440 And we're actually living out the story. And we're actually living out the story.
9 00:00:33,600 00:00:36,480 We are life imitating art on that level. We are life imitating art on that level.
10 00:00:42,400 00:00:45,280 It's the first bilingual series with all that that entails. It's the first bilingual series with all that that entails.
11 00:00:45,440 00:00:48,000 Our French writers write their scripts in French. Our French writers write their scripts in French.
12 00:00:48,160 00:00:50,520 We get them translated into English. We get them translated into English.
13 00:00:50,680 00:00:54,200 Yes, logistically it's quite a number. But it's worth it. Yes, logistically it's quite a number. But it's worth it.
14 00:00:54,360 00:00:57,880 It's a brilliant opportunity to have all sorts of conversations about nationhood. It's a brilliant opportunity to have all sorts of conversations about nationhood.
15 00:00:58,040 00:01:00,760 What does that mean? Comment allez-vous? What does that mean? Comment allez-vous?
16 00:01:00,920 00:01:03,000 Am I English, am I British, am I European? Am I English, am I British, am I European?
17 00:01:03,160 00:01:08,120 And Britain's ancient and tumultuous relationship with the Continent And Britain's ancient and tumultuous relationship with the Continent
18 00:01:08,280 00:01:10,440 is also very, very rich. is also very, very rich.
19 00:01:10,600 00:01:12,880 Danny Hillier? Who's this? Danny Hillier? Who's this?
20 00:01:13,040 00:01:18,160 If you want a real story you should ask the police what is happening in the EurotunneL. If you want a real story you should ask the police what is happening in the EurotunneL.
21 00:01:18,760 00:01:24,880 TT is someone who is looking at the values of what purports to be TT is someone who is looking at the values of what purports to be
22 00:01:25,040 00:01:27,560 a very democratic, egalitarian society. a very democratic, egalitarian society.
23 00:01:27,720 00:01:30,960 And yet in these days of austerity measures, And yet in these days of austerity measures,
24 00:01:31,120 00:01:34,240 increasingly we are taking away all the support mechanisms increasingly we are taking away all the support mechanisms
25 00:01:34,400 00:01:36,680 for all the vulnerable parts of society. for all the vulnerable parts of society.
26 00:01:36,840 00:01:38,720 So, in our version of the show, So, in our version of the show,
27 00:01:38,880 00:01:41,880 the individual truths that TT enacts, the individual truths that TT enacts,
28 00:01:42,040 00:01:44,920 which are very theatrical, baroque crimes, which are very theatrical, baroque crimes,
29 00:01:45,080 00:01:50,640 each have a collective significance about marginalized people each have a collective significance about marginalized people
30 00:01:50,800 00:01:53,160 and groups of society that we are letting down. and groups of society that we are letting down.
31 00:01:53,320 00:01:58,680 And our hypocritical ability to put our hands over our ears and over our eyes, And our hypocritical ability to put our hands over our ears and over our eyes,
32 00:01:58,840 00:02:01,760 and not see what we don't want to see and what doesn't suit us. and not see what we don't want to see and what doesn't suit us.
33 00:02:02,400 00:02:06,360 Like sex workers in the first episode who don't receive the same levels of justice Like sex workers in the first episode who don't receive the same levels of justice
34 00:02:06,520 00:02:09,040 that a prominent politician receives. that a prominent politician receives.
35 00:02:09,200 00:02:11,560 Like the elderly, like the mentally ill. Like the elderly, like the mentally ill.
36 00:02:11,720 00:02:16,520 Like young kids who we like to think of as kind of feral and out of control, Like young kids who we like to think of as kind of feral and out of control,
37 00:02:16,680 00:02:18,920 and who we try not to see when we walk around. and who we try not to see when we walk around.
38 00:02:19,080 00:02:21,880 And then as soon as they riot or do anything And then as soon as they riot or do anything
39 00:02:22,040 00:02:24,600 that impinges on our lives in a way we can't ignore, that impinges on our lives in a way we can't ignore,
40 00:02:24,760 00:02:27,600 we bung them in jail rather than asking why they're doing that. we bung them in jail rather than asking why they're doing that.
41 00:02:27,760 00:02:31,560 Adam, he kills people. He kills people, real people in the real world. Adam, he kills people. He kills people, real people in the real world.
42 00:02:31,720 00:02:33,840 Churchill killed real people. Churchill killed real people.
43 00:02:34,000 00:02:38,920 25,000 at Dresden and he still tops the charts of most popular Britons. 25,000 at Dresden and he still tops the charts of most popular Britons.
44 00:02:39,080 00:02:40,960 That would be my aspiration for it. That would be my aspiration for it.
45 00:02:41,120 00:02:43,520 That when people switch off the television at the end That when people switch off the television at the end
46 00:02:43,680 00:02:49,600 they start having a conversation, or even better, a fight about what TT's doing. they start having a conversation, or even better, a fight about what TT's doing.
47 00:02:49,760 00:02:52,200 And what is right, and what is wrong in that. And what is right, and what is wrong in that.
48 00:02:54,440 00:02:59,080 On the one hand it's the most extraordinary, twisty-turn y genre thriller. On the one hand it's the most extraordinary, twisty-turn y genre thriller.
49 00:02:59,640 00:03:03,800 At its very, very, very, very heart is the most beautiful character story At its very, very, very, very heart is the most beautiful character story
50 00:03:03,960 00:03:06,280 between two unlikely characters who find each other between two unlikely characters who find each other
51 00:03:06,440 00:03:09,320 and traverse the most enormous amount of ground together, and traverse the most enormous amount of ground together,
52 00:03:09,480 00:03:13,720 and end up with this brilliant, emotional punch of an ending. and end up with this brilliant, emotional punch of an ending.
53 00:03:14,160 00:03:16,960 And it's the ending that I think is incredibly unusual. And it's the ending that I think is incredibly unusual.
54 00:03:17,120 00:03:21,680 There are many wonderful thrillers in the genre in film and television that start brilliantly. There are many wonderful thrillers in the genre in film and television that start brilliantly.
55 00:03:21,840 00:03:23,840 There aren't many that deliver in the ending. There aren't many that deliver in the ending.
56 00:03:24,000 00:03:27,280 And certainly not that deliver on a character level as well as a plot level. And certainly not that deliver on a character level as well as a plot level.
57 00:03:27,440 00:03:31,160 that lifts it above many other pieces with similar themes. that lifts it above many other pieces with similar themes.
57 00:03:27,440 00:03:31,160 that lifts it above many other pieces with similar themes. that lifts it above many other pieces with similar themes.