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1 00:00:51,166 00:00:53,166 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
2 00:00:59,750 00:01:03,083 I have today ordered to Vietnam the Airmobile Division I have today ordered to Vietnam the Airmobile Division
3 00:01:03,833 00:01:07,208 and certain other forces which will raise our fighting strength and certain other forces which will raise our fighting strength
4 00:01:07,291 00:01:13,666 from 75,000 to 125,000 men almost immediately. from 75,000 to 125,000 men almost immediately.
5 00:01:13,750 00:01:17,458 This will make it necessary to increase our active fighting forces This will make it necessary to increase our active fighting forces
6 00:01:17,541 00:01:23,208 by raising the monthly draft call from 17,000 to 35,000. by raising the monthly draft call from 17,000 to 35,000.
7 00:01:25,000 00:01:27,583 December 30th. December 30th.
8 00:01:27,666 00:01:30,416 [announcer] All those whose birthday falls on December 30th. [announcer] All those whose birthday falls on December 30th.
9 00:01:30,500 00:01:33,166 [reporter 1] President Johnson announced new monthly draft totals [reporter 1] President Johnson announced new monthly draft totals
10 00:01:33,250 00:01:34,750 increasing to 35,000 per month. increasing to 35,000 per month.
11 00:01:34,833 00:01:36,767 - [reporter 2] 43,000 per month… - [reporter 3] 51,000… - [reporter 2] 43,000 per month… - [reporter 3] 51,000…
12 00:01:36,791 00:01:42,083 [reporter 4] 382,386 men between the ages of 18 and 24 have been called to duty. [reporter 4] 382,386 men between the ages of 18 and 24 have been called to duty.
13 00:01:42,166 00:01:45,000 [Martin Luther King Jr.] Now it should be incandescently clear [Martin Luther King Jr.] Now it should be incandescently clear
14 00:01:45,083 00:01:50,250 that no one who has any concern for the integrity and life of America today that no one who has any concern for the integrity and life of America today
15 00:01:50,333 00:01:52,541 can ignore the present war. can ignore the present war.
16 00:01:52,625 00:01:55,750 If America's soul becomes totally poisoned, If America's soul becomes totally poisoned,
17 00:01:55,833 00:01:59,458 part of the autopsy must read, "Vietnam." part of the autopsy must read, "Vietnam."
18 00:01:59,541 00:02:00,375 [gunshot] [gunshot]
19 00:02:00,458 00:02:02,833 What we need in the United States is not hatred, What we need in the United States is not hatred,
20 00:02:02,916 00:02:05,458 but is love and wisdom. but is love and wisdom.
21 00:02:05,541 00:02:08,750 So I ask you tonight to return home, So I ask you tonight to return home,
22 00:02:08,833 00:02:12,583 to say a prayer for the family of Martin Luther King. to say a prayer for the family of Martin Luther King.
23 00:02:12,666 00:02:14,583 - [gunshot] - [people screaming] - [gunshot] - [people screaming]
24 00:02:17,083 00:02:18,666 August 24th. August 24th.
25 00:02:18,750 00:02:20,430 [announcer] All those whose birthday falls… [announcer] All those whose birthday falls…
26 00:02:20,500 00:02:22,892 [reporter] Another 30,000 troops have been deployed to the region. [reporter] Another 30,000 troops have been deployed to the region.
27 00:02:22,916 00:02:25,916 This, after the US saw its greatest increase in monthly casualties. This, after the US saw its greatest increase in monthly casualties.
28 00:02:26,000 00:02:28,625 [Rennie] What we saw were population centers. [Rennie] What we saw were population centers.
29 00:02:28,708 00:02:30,958 Schoolhouses, pagodas, women and children. Schoolhouses, pagodas, women and children.
30 00:02:32,291 00:02:34,875 And that's American napalm. And that's American napalm.
31 00:02:34,958 00:02:38,291 Women and children were burned alive. Tom? Women and children were burned alive. Tom?
32 00:02:39,750 00:02:41,500 The Democratic Party The Democratic Party
33 00:02:41,583 00:02:45,333 is gonna end up nominating Hubert Humphrey next month in Chicago. is gonna end up nominating Hubert Humphrey next month in Chicago.
34 00:02:46,333 00:02:49,666 Now, when it comes to the war and social justice, Now, when it comes to the war and social justice,
35 00:02:50,333 00:02:52,416 there is simply not enough of a difference there is simply not enough of a difference
36 00:02:52,500 00:02:54,916 between Humphrey and Nixon to make a difference. between Humphrey and Nixon to make a difference.
37 00:02:55,000 00:02:56,833 And so, we're going to Chicago. And so, we're going to Chicago.
38 00:02:56,916 00:02:59,916 Young people, by busloads, will go to Chicago Young people, by busloads, will go to Chicago
39 00:03:00,000 00:03:03,333 to show our solidarity and our disgust. to show our solidarity and our disgust.
40 00:03:03,416 00:03:04,916 But most importantly… But most importantly…
41 00:03:05,000 00:03:07,791 - To get laid by someone you just met. - [crowd laughs] - To get laid by someone you just met. - [crowd laughs]
42 00:03:07,875 00:03:11,458 536,000 of us sent to a country 536,000 of us sent to a country
43 00:03:11,541 00:03:14,958 none of these bumper-sticker patriots in Washington could find on a map none of these bumper-sticker patriots in Washington could find on a map
44 00:03:15,041 00:03:16,458 with a motherfuckin' map! with a motherfuckin' map!
45 00:03:16,541 00:03:18,166 [crowd cheers] [crowd cheers]
46 00:03:18,250 00:03:19,875 We're goin' to Chicago. We're goin' to Chicago.
47 00:03:19,958 00:03:23,416 Anyone who stays in the park, sings Woody Guthrie, they'll be fine. Anyone who stays in the park, sings Woody Guthrie, they'll be fine.
48 00:03:23,500 00:03:24,416 [crowd laughs] [crowd laughs]
49 00:03:24,500 00:03:27,833 But the cops are gonna be a half-inch from losin' their fuckin' minds, But the cops are gonna be a half-inch from losin' their fuckin' minds,
50 00:03:27,916 00:03:30,166 'cause Daley's gonna wind 'em up to make sure of it. 'cause Daley's gonna wind 'em up to make sure of it.
51 00:03:30,916 00:03:33,791 We're goin' to Chicago peacefully. We're goin' peacefully. We're goin' to Chicago peacefully. We're goin' peacefully.
52 00:03:33,875 00:03:36,166 But if we're met there with violence, But if we're met there with violence,
53 00:03:36,250 00:03:39,583 you better believe that we're gonna meet that violence with… you better believe that we're gonna meet that violence with…
54 00:03:39,666 00:03:43,083 Nonviolence. Always nonviolence, and that's without exception. Nonviolence. Always nonviolence, and that's without exception.
55 00:03:43,166 00:03:46,541 - [boy] What if the police hit you? - [David] Why would the police hit me? - [boy] What if the police hit you? - [David] Why would the police hit me?
56 00:03:46,625 00:03:47,833 - What if they do? - I'll duck. - What if they do? - I'll duck.
57 00:03:47,916 00:03:49,875 David, he watches the news. David, he watches the news.
58 00:03:49,958 00:03:51,250 I've organized 100 protests. I've organized 100 protests.
59 00:03:51,333 00:03:55,125 This one will be no different in that it almost certainly won't work. This one will be no different in that it almost certainly won't work.
60 00:03:55,208 00:03:56,291 The police are... The police are...
61 00:03:56,375 00:03:59,166 I'm not worried about them. I'm worried about Hoffman and Rubin. I'm not worried about them. I'm worried about Hoffman and Rubin.
62 00:03:59,250 00:04:01,583 It's the Democratic National Convention, honey. It's the Democratic National Convention, honey.
63 00:04:01,666 00:04:04,083 Every camera in America is gonna be pointed at it, Every camera in America is gonna be pointed at it,
64 00:04:04,166 00:04:07,375 and Daley is not gonna let his city turn into a theater of war. and Daley is not gonna let his city turn into a theater of war.
65 00:04:07,458 00:04:10,125 Hoffman and Rubin are geniuses in their own special way. Hoffman and Rubin are geniuses in their own special way.
66 00:04:10,208 00:04:12,416 - Oh, dear God. - He's got a Boy Scout meeting at 7:00. - Oh, dear God. - He's got a Boy Scout meeting at 7:00.
67 00:04:13,333 00:04:14,791 Dad, if the police... Dad, if the police...
68 00:04:14,875 00:04:16,166 If the police try to arrest me, If the police try to arrest me,
69 00:04:16,250 00:04:19,458 I'll do what I always do and what I taught you to do, which is what? I'll do what I always do and what I taught you to do, which is what?
70 00:04:20,625 00:04:22,875 Very calmly and very politely… Very calmly and very politely…
71 00:04:22,958 00:04:26,333 Fuck the motherfuckers up! They leave us alone and everything's cool. Fuck the motherfuckers up! They leave us alone and everything's cool.
72 00:04:26,416 00:04:27,875 They tangle, disrupt, intimidate, They tangle, disrupt, intimidate,
73 00:04:27,958 00:04:30,000 play fast and loose with the First Amendment, play fast and loose with the First Amendment,
74 00:04:30,083 00:04:32,500 start breaking heads, then we will not be on our way. start breaking heads, then we will not be on our way.
75 00:04:32,583 00:04:34,250 You can't give this speech in Chicago. You can't give this speech in Chicago.
76 00:04:34,333 00:04:37,791 - Fred wants me there. Plane ticket. - Let Fred give the speech. - Fred wants me there. Plane ticket. - Let Fred give the speech.
77 00:04:37,875 00:04:40,083 Between Hayden and Hoffman, there could be 5,000 people. Between Hayden and Hoffman, there could be 5,000 people.
78 00:04:40,166 00:04:41,625 Be nice to talk to 5,000 people. Be nice to talk to 5,000 people.
79 00:04:41,708 00:04:43,500 Not while you're in trouble in Connecticut. Not while you're in trouble in Connecticut.
80 00:04:43,583 00:04:45,750 I'm the head of the Black Panthers, Sondra. I'm the head of the Black Panthers, Sondra.
81 00:04:45,833 00:04:47,750 When won't I be in trouble? Travel bag. When won't I be in trouble? Travel bag.
82 00:04:47,833 00:04:50,875 You'll be in a lot more of it if you stand up and say, "Fry the pigs." You'll be in a lot more of it if you stand up and say, "Fry the pigs."
83 00:04:50,958 00:04:52,750 If they attack. Takin' it out of context. If they attack. Takin' it out of context.
84 00:04:52,833 00:04:56,166 So will every white person in America. Cops won't give a shit about context. So will every white person in America. Cops won't give a shit about context.
85 00:04:56,250 00:04:57,791 You don't have protection in Chicago. You don't have protection in Chicago.
86 00:04:57,875 00:04:59,416 There's no place to be but in it. There's no place to be but in it.
87 00:04:59,500 00:05:01,416 - But "fry the pigs"? - If they attack... - But "fry the pigs"? - If they attack...
88 00:05:01,500 00:05:02,958 - Dr. King... - Is dead. - Dr. King... - Is dead.
89 00:05:03,041 00:05:05,833 He has a dream? Now he has a fuckin' bullet in his head. He has a dream? Now he has a fuckin' bullet in his head.
90 00:05:05,916 00:05:07,958 Martin's dead, Malcolm's dead, Medgar's dead, Martin's dead, Malcolm's dead, Medgar's dead,
91 00:05:08,041 00:05:09,791 Bobby's dead, Jesus is dead. Bobby's dead, Jesus is dead.
92 00:05:09,875 00:05:12,333 They tried it peacefully, we gonna try something else. They tried it peacefully, we gonna try something else.
93 00:05:12,416 00:05:15,208 Sondra, I'll be there for four hours. That's it. Sondra, I'll be there for four hours. That's it.
94 00:05:16,583 00:05:17,583 Snack. Snack.
95 00:05:21,500 00:05:22,916 You'll at least take one of these? You'll at least take one of these?
96 00:05:23,000 00:05:26,041 If I knew how to use that, I wouldn't need to be making speeches. If I knew how to use that, I wouldn't need to be making speeches.
97 00:05:30,083 00:05:34,541 It's named after the Russian commissar Vyacheslav Mikhailovich Molotov. It's named after the Russian commissar Vyacheslav Mikhailovich Molotov.
98 00:05:34,625 00:05:36,041 You start with a glass bottle. You start with a glass bottle.
99 00:05:38,416 00:05:41,083 You fill it up halfway with gasoline and motor oil… You fill it up halfway with gasoline and motor oil…
100 00:05:44,666 00:05:47,500 You pack some Styrofoam, and now your cherry bomb. You pack some Styrofoam, and now your cherry bomb.
101 00:05:49,208 00:05:50,708 Some chewing gum around the top… Some chewing gum around the top…
102 00:05:54,708 00:05:55,958 …and a fuse. …and a fuse.
103 00:05:56,041 00:05:57,041 [man] Now! [man] Now!
104 00:06:00,458 00:06:04,083 [reporter] The 35th National Democratic Convention is set to begin next week [reporter] The 35th National Democratic Convention is set to begin next week
105 00:06:04,166 00:06:07,625 with repeated assurances from Chicago Mayor, Richard J. Daley. with repeated assurances from Chicago Mayor, Richard J. Daley.
106 00:06:07,708 00:06:11,083 - Will it be a good convention, Mr. Mayor? - The best ever held. - Will it be a good convention, Mr. Mayor? - The best ever held.
107 00:06:11,166 00:06:12,916 - Is that Jerry? - [Rennie] Yeah. - Is that Jerry? - [Rennie] Yeah.
108 00:06:13,000 00:06:15,916 Tell him to tell Abbie we're going to Chicago to end the war Tell him to tell Abbie we're going to Chicago to end the war
109 00:06:16,000 00:06:17,458 and not to fuck around. and not to fuck around.
110 00:06:17,541 00:06:20,416 Tom says to tell Abbie that we're going to Chicago to end the war Tom says to tell Abbie that we're going to Chicago to end the war
111 00:06:20,500 00:06:22,041 and not to fuck around. and not to fuck around.
112 00:06:22,583 00:06:26,333 Hayden says we're goin' to Chicago to end the war and not to fuck around. Hayden says we're goin' to Chicago to end the war and not to fuck around.
113 00:06:26,416 00:06:29,291 [Abbie] Tell Hayden I went to Brandeis and I can do both. [Abbie] Tell Hayden I went to Brandeis and I can do both.
114 00:06:29,375 00:06:33,250 We're going to show that we, as a generation, are serious people. We're going to show that we, as a generation, are serious people.
115 00:06:33,333 00:06:37,833 People say, "Abbie, are you concerned about an overreaction from the cops?" People say, "Abbie, are you concerned about an overreaction from the cops?"
116 00:06:37,916 00:06:41,041 I issued a police order to shoot to kill any arsonists. I issued a police order to shoot to kill any arsonists.
117 00:06:41,125 00:06:42,583 We're not concerned about it. We're not concerned about it.
118 00:06:42,666 00:06:45,958 [reporter 1] Four units of the Illinois National Guard, totaling 5,000 troops, [reporter 1] Four units of the Illinois National Guard, totaling 5,000 troops,
119 00:06:46,041 00:06:47,458 have been sent to Chicago. have been sent to Chicago.
120 00:06:47,541 00:06:48,708 We're countin' on it! We're countin' on it!
121 00:06:48,791 00:06:52,208 We wanna underscore again that we're coming to Chicago peacefully, We wanna underscore again that we're coming to Chicago peacefully,
122 00:06:52,291 00:06:55,000 but whether we're given permits or not, we're coming. but whether we're given permits or not, we're coming.
123 00:06:55,083 00:06:58,625 [reporter 2] An additional 10,000 Chicago police officers, including riot squads… [reporter 2] An additional 10,000 Chicago police officers, including riot squads…
124 00:06:58,708 00:07:01,458 We're not going to storm the convention with tanks or mace, We're not going to storm the convention with tanks or mace,
125 00:07:01,541 00:07:04,625 but we are going to storm the hearts and minds of the American people. but we are going to storm the hearts and minds of the American people.
126 00:07:04,708 00:07:06,958 These people are revolutionaries These people are revolutionaries
127 00:07:07,041 00:07:10,375 bent on the destruction of the government of the United States of America. bent on the destruction of the government of the United States of America.
128 00:07:10,458 00:07:15,666 The Democratic Convention is about to begin in a police state. The Democratic Convention is about to begin in a police state.
129 00:07:15,750 00:07:18,458 There just doesn't seem to be any other way to say it. There just doesn't seem to be any other way to say it.
130 00:07:40,416 00:07:42,916 [secretary] You've arrived at a moment in history. [secretary] You've arrived at a moment in history.
131 00:07:44,416 00:07:47,208 - Pardon? - They're changing the picture. - Pardon? - They're changing the picture.
132 00:07:48,250 00:07:49,666 [typewriter keys clicking] [typewriter keys clicking]
133 00:07:51,666 00:07:52,708 [door opens] [door opens]
134 00:07:53,708 00:07:55,333 - Tom. - [Foran] Howard. - Tom. - [Foran] Howard.
135 00:07:55,416 00:07:56,875 - Flew in all right? - Sure. - Flew in all right? - Sure.
136 00:07:57,416 00:07:58,958 - Richard Schultz? - Yes, sir. - Richard Schultz? - Yes, sir.
137 00:07:59,041 00:08:01,541 Howard Ackerman, Special Advisor to the Attorney General. Howard Ackerman, Special Advisor to the Attorney General.
138 00:08:01,625 00:08:03,976 - Pleased to meet you. - Anyone tell you what this is about? - Pleased to meet you. - Anyone tell you what this is about?
139 00:08:04,000 00:08:07,708 No, sir. Just to meet Mr. Foran at O'Hare this morning, we'd fly to Washington. No, sir. Just to meet Mr. Foran at O'Hare this morning, we'd fly to Washington.
140 00:08:07,791 00:08:09,708 - We'd be meeting Mr. Mitchell. - Good. - We'd be meeting Mr. Mitchell. - Good.
141 00:08:10,666 00:08:14,125 Finally changing that goddamn picture. Come on in. Finally changing that goddamn picture. Come on in.
142 00:08:19,541 00:08:21,500 [Mitchell] As a matter of courtesy and tradition, [Mitchell] As a matter of courtesy and tradition,
143 00:08:21,583 00:08:25,125 when we elect a new president, the outgoing cabinet members resign when we elect a new president, the outgoing cabinet members resign
144 00:08:25,208 00:08:28,291 to spare the new president the unpleasantness of firing 'em. to spare the new president the unpleasantness of firing 'em.
145 00:08:28,916 00:08:31,041 Richard, do you know when President Nixon Richard, do you know when President Nixon
146 00:08:31,125 00:08:34,000 received Ramsey Clark's formal letter of resignation? received Ramsey Clark's formal letter of resignation?
147 00:08:34,541 00:08:37,125 - No, sir. - About an hour before my confirmation. - No, sir. - About an hour before my confirmation.
148 00:08:37,208 00:08:38,791 That was to embarrass me. That was to embarrass me.
149 00:08:38,875 00:08:42,250 I don't know, I think it was more embarrassing for Ramsey Clark. I don't know, I think it was more embarrassing for Ramsey Clark.
150 00:08:42,333 00:08:43,250 I'm John Mitchell. I'm John Mitchell.
151 00:08:43,333 00:08:45,958 Thomas Foran, Mr. Attorney General, and this is Richard Schultz. Thomas Foran, Mr. Attorney General, and this is Richard Schultz.
152 00:08:46,041 00:08:49,708 Richard, Chicago is more fucked up than any ten things I've ever seen in my life. Richard, Chicago is more fucked up than any ten things I've ever seen in my life.
153 00:08:49,791 00:08:51,666 - [Schultz] Sir? - The convention, the riots. - [Schultz] Sir? - The convention, the riots.
154 00:08:51,750 00:08:53,375 - Yes, sir. - [Mitchell] Sit. - Yes, sir. - [Mitchell] Sit.
155 00:08:55,083 00:08:57,833 - Johnnie Walker okay with everybody? - Yes, thank you. - Johnnie Walker okay with everybody? - Yes, thank you.
156 00:08:57,916 00:08:59,625 - Richard? - Nothing for me, thank you. - Richard? - Nothing for me, thank you.
157 00:08:59,708 00:09:03,000 We don't know how Humphrey's people could have been that stupid. We don't know how Humphrey's people could have been that stupid.
158 00:09:03,083 00:09:05,625 Allow their guy to be nominated under armed guard. Allow their guy to be nominated under armed guard.
159 00:09:06,333 00:09:08,666 - Sir? - Son, are you nervous? - Sir? - Son, are you nervous?
160 00:09:08,750 00:09:10,416 - No, sir. - Why the fuck not? - No, sir. - Why the fuck not?
161 00:09:11,833 00:09:15,208 [chuckles] I'm kidding. Don't believe everything you've heard about me. [chuckles] I'm kidding. Don't believe everything you've heard about me.
162 00:09:15,291 00:09:19,583 Ramsey Clark gave me the finger on the way out the door. [scoffs] Ramsey Clark gave me the finger on the way out the door. [scoffs]
163 00:09:19,666 00:09:22,916 I'm asking if you think Chicago was why Humphrey lost the election. I'm asking if you think Chicago was why Humphrey lost the election.
164 00:09:23,000 00:09:25,500 No, sir. The Republicans ran a better candidate. No, sir. The Republicans ran a better candidate.
165 00:09:25,583 00:09:27,703 - That's for damn sure. - Daley didn't help his party, - That's for damn sure. - Daley didn't help his party,
166 00:09:27,750 00:09:29,875 but Humphrey's people and Daley didn't break the law, but Humphrey's people and Daley didn't break the law,
167 00:09:29,958 00:09:31,333 so that's somebody else's table. so that's somebody else's table.
168 00:09:31,416 00:09:34,916 As a matter of fact, we don't believe any federal laws were broken last summer. As a matter of fact, we don't believe any federal laws were broken last summer.
169 00:09:35,000 00:09:37,916 Mr. Foran had our office run a thorough investigation. Mr. Foran had our office run a thorough investigation.
170 00:09:38,000 00:09:41,458 There was trespassing, destruction of public property, lewd behavior. There was trespassing, destruction of public property, lewd behavior.
171 00:09:41,541 00:09:43,500 Nothing that would rise to the level... Nothing that would rise to the level...
172 00:09:43,583 00:09:46,208 You think you and your boss are in the attorney general's office You think you and your boss are in the attorney general's office
173 00:09:46,291 00:09:50,458 because I want you to seek an indictment for violating a federal trespassing law? because I want you to seek an indictment for violating a federal trespassing law?
174 00:09:51,333 00:09:53,708 Our office wasn't aware that the Justice Department Our office wasn't aware that the Justice Department
175 00:09:53,791 00:09:55,416 wanted to seek any indictments at all. wanted to seek any indictments at all.
176 00:09:55,500 00:09:57,416 - We do. - Ramsey Clark was dead set against... - We do. - Ramsey Clark was dead set against...
177 00:09:57,500 00:09:59,791 Ramsey Clark doesn't run the Justice Department anymore, Ramsey Clark doesn't run the Justice Department anymore,
178 00:09:59,875 00:10:00,958 did you hear about that? did you hear about that?
179 00:10:01,041 00:10:03,583 - And Mr. Johnson's back home in Texas. - Of course, sir. - And Mr. Johnson's back home in Texas. - Of course, sir.
180 00:10:03,666 00:10:06,125 One hour before my confirmation hearing gaveled, One hour before my confirmation hearing gaveled,
181 00:10:06,208 00:10:08,500 that's when he resigned. What a prick! that's when he resigned. What a prick!
182 00:10:09,375 00:10:10,500 That's unprofessional. That's unprofessional.
183 00:10:10,583 00:10:13,666 Unprofessional? It was unpatriotic. I'll tell you what else. Unprofessional? It was unpatriotic. I'll tell you what else.
184 00:10:13,750 00:10:17,250 It was impolite. There's such a thing as manners. It was impolite. There's such a thing as manners.
185 00:10:17,333 00:10:20,708 I want to bring back manners. How about that? The America I grew up in. I want to bring back manners. How about that? The America I grew up in.
186 00:10:21,291 00:10:22,791 Will you help me, Mr. Schultz? Will you help me, Mr. Schultz?
187 00:10:22,875 00:10:26,041 'Cause I asked Mr. Foran who was the best prosecutor in his office. 'Cause I asked Mr. Foran who was the best prosecutor in his office.
188 00:10:26,125 00:10:27,875 - He said you. - Thank you. - He said you. - Thank you.
189 00:10:27,958 00:10:30,875 Section 2101 of Title 18. Section 2101 of Title 18.
190 00:10:30,958 00:10:32,916 That's the federal law that was broken. That's the federal law that was broken.
191 00:10:33,000 00:10:34,625 That's the Rap Brown Law. That's the Rap Brown Law.
192 00:10:34,708 00:10:38,333 In conspiracy to cross state lines in order to incite violence. In conspiracy to cross state lines in order to incite violence.
193 00:10:38,416 00:10:41,458 Comes with a maximum of ten years. We want all ten. Comes with a maximum of ten years. We want all ten.
194 00:10:41,541 00:10:43,666 - For whom, sir? - The all-star team. - For whom, sir? - The all-star team.
195 00:10:46,333 00:10:50,333 "Abbie Hoffman, Tom Hayden, Jerry Rubin, David Dellinger, Rennie Davis, "Abbie Hoffman, Tom Hayden, Jerry Rubin, David Dellinger, Rennie Davis,
196 00:10:50,416 00:10:54,166 Lee Weiner, John Froines… and Bobby Seale?" Lee Weiner, John Froines… and Bobby Seale?"
197 00:10:54,250 00:10:58,250 I call 'em the school boys, and when I do, everyone here knows who I'm talking about. I call 'em the school boys, and when I do, everyone here knows who I'm talking about.
198 00:10:58,333 00:11:00,166 Petulant and dangerous. Petulant and dangerous.
199 00:11:00,250 00:11:03,833 And we watched for a decade while these rebels without a job, And we watched for a decade while these rebels without a job,
200 00:11:03,916 00:11:06,541 who never got their hands dirty fighting the enemy, who never got their hands dirty fighting the enemy,
201 00:11:06,625 00:11:09,041 tell us how to prosecute a war. tell us how to prosecute a war.
202 00:11:09,583 00:11:12,000 The decade's over, the grown-ups are back, The decade's over, the grown-ups are back,
203 00:11:12,083 00:11:16,750 and I deem these shitty little fairies to be a threat to national security. and I deem these shitty little fairies to be a threat to national security.
204 00:11:16,833 00:11:20,375 So they're gonna spend their thirties in a federal facility. So they're gonna spend their thirties in a federal facility.
205 00:11:20,458 00:11:22,708 - Real-time. - [Foran] You're lead prosecutor, Richard. - Real-time. - [Foran] You're lead prosecutor, Richard.
206 00:11:23,333 00:11:25,666 You understand why I couldn't tell you until we got here? You understand why I couldn't tell you until we got here?
207 00:11:25,750 00:11:26,833 Sure. Of course, sir. Sure. Of course, sir.
208 00:11:26,916 00:11:31,083 Richard, you're being handed the ball. Are you ready for this? Richard, you're being handed the ball. Are you ready for this?
209 00:11:33,583 00:11:34,916 You pay me for my opinion. You pay me for my opinion.
210 00:11:35,500 00:11:37,916 - What? - I said, sir, you pay me for my opinion. - What? - I said, sir, you pay me for my opinion.
211 00:11:38,000 00:11:40,583 Where'd you learn that? In class? I pay you to win. Where'd you learn that? In class? I pay you to win.
212 00:11:40,666 00:11:43,166 I'm not sure we can get a good indictment on conspiracy. I'm not sure we can get a good indictment on conspiracy.
213 00:11:43,250 00:11:45,958 - Why not? - Some of them have never met each other. - Why not? - Some of them have never met each other.
214 00:11:46,041 00:11:47,291 Telephones. Telephones.
215 00:11:48,541 00:11:53,458 Mr. Attorney General, the Rap Brown Law was created by Southern whites in Congress Mr. Attorney General, the Rap Brown Law was created by Southern whites in Congress
216 00:11:53,541 00:11:55,916 to limit the free speech of Black activists. to limit the free speech of Black activists.
217 00:11:56,000 00:11:58,166 - Civil rights activists... - I know why it was passed. - Civil rights activists... - I know why it was passed.
218 00:11:58,250 00:11:59,791 Why the fuck is he teaching… Why the fuck is he teaching…
219 00:11:59,875 00:12:03,041 It doesn't matter why it was passed. It matters what it can do. It doesn't matter why it was passed. It matters what it can do.
220 00:12:03,125 00:12:05,916 We're not sure what it can do. No one's ever been charged with it. We're not sure what it can do. No one's ever been charged with it.
221 00:12:06,000 00:12:07,416 [Foran] That makes it exciting. [Foran] That makes it exciting.
222 00:12:07,500 00:12:10,208 It's like virgin land. Undeveloped real estate. It's like virgin land. Undeveloped real estate.
223 00:12:10,750 00:12:13,500 - It's a law and they broke it. - Of course, sir. - It's a law and they broke it. - Of course, sir.
224 00:12:13,583 00:12:14,833 - Is there a problem? - No, sir. - Is there a problem? - No, sir.
225 00:12:14,916 00:12:17,916 Say what you want to say, since I'm paying for your wisdom. Say what you want to say, since I'm paying for your wisdom.
226 00:12:18,000 00:12:19,333 Give me my money's worth. Give me my money's worth.
227 00:12:19,416 00:12:21,208 Sir, there are people who will see this Sir, there are people who will see this
228 00:12:21,291 00:12:23,583 as the Justice Department restraining free speech as the Justice Department restraining free speech
229 00:12:23,666 00:12:26,500 and there were people who see these men as martyrs. and there were people who see these men as martyrs.
230 00:12:26,583 00:12:28,875 - Are any of those people in this room? - No, sir. - Are any of those people in this room? - No, sir.
231 00:12:28,958 00:12:31,666 You're 33 and you're about to be named lead prosecutor You're 33 and you're about to be named lead prosecutor
232 00:12:31,750 00:12:33,916 in the most important trial in your lifetime in the most important trial in your lifetime
233 00:12:34,000 00:12:36,875 after being handpicked by the attorney general. after being handpicked by the attorney general.
234 00:12:36,958 00:12:38,791 I'm about to do that right now. I'm about to do that right now.
235 00:12:38,875 00:12:42,958 But before I do, let me ask you, how do you see them? But before I do, let me ask you, how do you see them?
236 00:12:43,875 00:12:46,166 - Personally or in terms of... - [Mitchell] Personally. - Personally or in terms of... - [Mitchell] Personally.
237 00:12:46,250 00:12:48,583 I see them as vulgar, anti-establishment, I see them as vulgar, anti-establishment,
238 00:12:48,666 00:12:52,291 antisocial and unpragmatic, but none of those things are indictable. antisocial and unpragmatic, but none of those things are indictable.
239 00:12:52,375 00:12:54,833 Imagine how impressed I'll be when you get an indictment. Imagine how impressed I'll be when you get an indictment.
240 00:12:55,708 00:12:57,458 - There's a bigger question. - Which is? - There's a bigger question. - Which is?
241 00:12:57,541 00:13:01,375 Who started the riots? Was it the protesters or the police? Who started the riots? Was it the protesters or the police?
242 00:13:01,458 00:13:04,666 - The police don't start riots. - They'll have witnesses who say they did. - The police don't start riots. - They'll have witnesses who say they did.
243 00:13:04,750 00:13:06,875 And you'll dismantle them and win, And you'll dismantle them and win,
244 00:13:06,958 00:13:10,208 because, Mr. Schultz, that's what's expected of you. because, Mr. Schultz, that's what's expected of you.
245 00:13:12,875 00:13:15,375 [Foran] You didn't show a lot of gratitude in there. [Foran] You didn't show a lot of gratitude in there.
246 00:13:15,458 00:13:16,333 [Schultz sighs] [Schultz sighs]
247 00:13:16,416 00:13:20,750 On top of everything, we're giving them what they want: a stage and an audience. On top of everything, we're giving them what they want: a stage and an audience.
248 00:13:21,375 00:13:23,500 You think there's gonna be a big audience? You think there's gonna be a big audience?
249 00:13:23,583 00:13:27,125 [crowd chanting] The whole world is watching! [crowd chanting] The whole world is watching!
250 00:13:27,208 00:13:28,458 Yes, sir, I do. Yes, sir, I do.
251 00:13:29,166 00:13:33,583 [crowd chanting] The whole world is watching! [crowd chanting] The whole world is watching!
252 00:13:34,625 00:13:37,458 - [protestor 1] Traitors! - [protestor 2] Lock up the longhairs! - [protestor 1] Traitors! - [protestor 2] Lock up the longhairs!
253 00:13:37,541 00:13:39,541 [protestor 3] Power to the people! [protestor 3] Power to the people!
254 00:13:39,625 00:13:41,083 [protestor 4] No more war! [protestor 4] No more war!
255 00:13:44,125 00:13:47,458 [crowd] The whole world is watching! [crowd] The whole world is watching!
256 00:13:48,041 00:13:50,583 Get out! How dare you? Get out! Get out! How dare you? Get out!
257 00:13:51,583 00:13:53,083 - [man 1] Abbie! - Are you all right? - [man 1] Abbie! - Are you all right?
258 00:13:53,166 00:13:54,291 [man 2] Abbie, over here. [man 2] Abbie, over here.
259 00:13:54,375 00:13:57,708 - I was, until I saw that. - Most of them are on our side. - I was, until I saw that. - Most of them are on our side.
260 00:13:57,791 00:13:59,875 - [man 2] We love you, Abbie! - See? - [man 2] We love you, Abbie! - See?
261 00:14:01,083 00:14:01,916 [woman] Watch out! [woman] Watch out!
262 00:14:02,000 00:14:04,750 Jesus Christ! How did you do that? Jesus Christ! How did you do that?
263 00:14:05,625 00:14:06,625 Experience. Experience.
264 00:14:06,708 00:14:09,708 [reporter 1] Abbie, right over here! [reporter 1] Abbie, right over here!
265 00:14:09,791 00:14:11,208 Over here! Over here! Over here! Over here!
266 00:14:11,291 00:14:13,166 You don't know what to do with the egg now? You don't know what to do with the egg now?
267 00:14:13,250 00:14:14,083 No. No.
268 00:14:14,166 00:14:15,291 [elevator bell dings] [elevator bell dings]
269 00:14:16,208 00:14:19,750 - [reporter 2] Mr. Kunstler, one question! - [reporter 3] Bill! Bill! - [reporter 2] Mr. Kunstler, one question! - [reporter 3] Bill! Bill!
270 00:14:19,833 00:14:22,416 All right. Hang on. Quiet down. All right. Hang on. Quiet down.
271 00:14:22,500 00:14:25,958 I want you all to meet a new addition to the defense team. I want you all to meet a new addition to the defense team.
272 00:14:26,041 00:14:28,166 This is Leonard Weinglass, This is Leonard Weinglass,
273 00:14:28,250 00:14:31,458 one of this country's most talented First Amendment litigators. one of this country's most talented First Amendment litigators.
274 00:14:31,541 00:14:34,000 - Bill, can you tell us... - Go ahead, Sy. - Bill, can you tell us... - Go ahead, Sy.
275 00:14:34,083 00:14:35,541 What's the status of Charles Garry? What's the status of Charles Garry?
276 00:14:35,625 00:14:38,375 Charles Garry is still in the hospital. Charles Garry is still in the hospital.
277 00:14:38,458 00:14:41,375 You should contact his office for information. You should contact his office for information.
278 00:14:41,458 00:14:42,958 - [reporter 4] One more. - Marjorie. - [reporter 4] One more. - Marjorie.
279 00:14:43,041 00:14:44,791 You're representing Bobby Seale today? You're representing Bobby Seale today?
280 00:14:44,875 00:14:48,833 Oh, no, it's very important that it be understood that, uh, Oh, no, it's very important that it be understood that, uh,
281 00:14:48,916 00:14:51,541 for his own protection, his own protection, for his own protection, his own protection,
282 00:14:51,625 00:14:54,541 I will not be acting as Bobby Seale's attorney today. I will not be acting as Bobby Seale's attorney today.
283 00:14:54,625 00:14:55,458 One more. Jack. One more. Jack.
284 00:14:55,541 00:14:59,291 I was told that Hayden was the one who wanted to bring Mr. Weinglass in, I was told that Hayden was the one who wanted to bring Mr. Weinglass in,
285 00:14:59,375 00:15:02,041 that Hayden has concerns about your seriousness. that Hayden has concerns about your seriousness.
286 00:15:02,125 00:15:04,625 - Well… - This is William Kunstler. - Well… - This is William Kunstler.
287 00:15:04,708 00:15:07,833 You wanna find out how serious he is, meet him at a witness stand. You wanna find out how serious he is, meet him at a witness stand.
288 00:15:07,916 00:15:09,875 [indistinct chatter] [indistinct chatter]
289 00:15:42,291 00:15:45,458 I understand why they're tryin' to smoke Abbie, Jerry and Hayden, I understand why they're tryin' to smoke Abbie, Jerry and Hayden,
290 00:15:45,541 00:15:46,875 even Rennie and Dellinger, even Rennie and Dellinger,
291 00:15:46,958 00:15:49,833 but I can't figure out what the two of us are doin' here. but I can't figure out what the two of us are doin' here.
292 00:15:49,916 00:15:53,708 I feel exactly the same way, but this is the Academy Awards of protests, I feel exactly the same way, but this is the Academy Awards of protests,
293 00:15:53,791 00:15:57,041 and as far as I'm concerned, it's an honor just to be nominated. and as far as I'm concerned, it's an honor just to be nominated.
294 00:15:58,500 00:15:59,500 What is that? What is that?
295 00:16:00,333 00:16:02,041 I've been keeping a list every day. I've been keeping a list every day.
296 00:16:02,583 00:16:05,583 Americans who've been killed since the day we were arrested. Americans who've been killed since the day we were arrested.
297 00:16:05,666 00:16:06,666 Why? Why?
298 00:16:07,291 00:16:10,958 With the trial starting, it might get easy to forget who this is about. With the trial starting, it might get easy to forget who this is about.
299 00:16:18,291 00:16:19,666 - [Bill] Fellas. - Morning. - [Bill] Fellas. - Morning.
300 00:16:19,750 00:16:20,750 Good morning. Good morning.
301 00:16:26,541 00:16:29,583 I just got a question about my seriousness. I just got a question about my seriousness.
302 00:16:30,125 00:16:34,625 Whatever's going on between you and Abbie, could you keep it out of this building? Whatever's going on between you and Abbie, could you keep it out of this building?
303 00:16:34,708 00:16:37,708 - I got a feeling this is gearing up to be… - [door opens] - I got a feeling this is gearing up to be… - [door opens]
304 00:16:38,916 00:16:40,875 - [door closes] - [footsteps approaching] - [door closes] - [footsteps approaching]
305 00:16:41,916 00:16:44,375 [spectators murmuring] [spectators murmuring]
306 00:17:01,250 00:17:03,166 - Fred. - Bill. - Fred. - Bill.
307 00:17:03,916 00:17:05,833 Did you have breakfast this morning? Did you have breakfast this morning?
308 00:17:08,208 00:17:10,250 - What? - Did you have breakfast? - What? - Did you have breakfast?
309 00:17:10,875 00:17:13,250 - I did. - Well, what'd you have? - I did. - Well, what'd you have?
310 00:17:13,916 00:17:14,916 What are you doin'? What are you doin'?
311 00:17:14,958 00:17:16,500 I'm talkin' to him about breakfast I'm talkin' to him about breakfast
312 00:17:16,583 00:17:19,125 because that's all I'm allowed to talk to him about. because that's all I'm allowed to talk to him about.
313 00:17:19,208 00:17:20,208 That's right. That's right.
314 00:17:21,916 00:17:23,958 - Bobby... - We have instructions from our lawyer. - Bobby... - We have instructions from our lawyer.
315 00:17:24,041 00:17:26,708 If you need me, I'm sittin' right there. If you need me, I'm sittin' right there.
316 00:17:26,791 00:17:29,708 You just look at me and you say, "I need you." You just look at me and you say, "I need you."
317 00:17:30,666 00:17:33,333 - We don't need you, Bill. - You two gonna be like this? - We don't need you, Bill. - You two gonna be like this?
318 00:17:34,791 00:17:38,208 Your friends shouldn't sit together. The jury's not gonna like that. Your friends shouldn't sit together. The jury's not gonna like that.
319 00:17:38,291 00:17:40,083 This isn't my jury. If they don't like it... This isn't my jury. If they don't like it...
320 00:17:40,166 00:17:41,208 No, he's right. No, he's right.
321 00:17:44,750 00:17:47,916 Spread out, okay? In pairs. Spread out, okay? In pairs.
322 00:17:48,458 00:17:49,541 [Bill] And Fred? [Bill] And Fred?
323 00:17:50,916 00:17:53,291 - No, they're dressed just fine. - It's all right. - No, they're dressed just fine. - It's all right.
324 00:17:54,041 00:17:56,625 And take your very scary hats off. And take your very scary hats off.
325 00:18:01,666 00:18:02,666 Don't mess this up. Don't mess this up.
326 00:18:04,583 00:18:06,833 All right. Good pep talk. All right. Good pep talk.
327 00:18:11,000 00:18:12,000 Hey! Hey!
328 00:18:15,000 00:18:16,291 You see the crowd out there? You see the crowd out there?
329 00:18:17,250 00:18:18,458 I have an egg. I have an egg.
330 00:18:18,541 00:18:20,875 - Get rid of that. - You don't think I want to? - Get rid of that. - You don't think I want to?
331 00:18:20,958 00:18:23,708 It's like we're… What's his name? We just met him. It's like we're… What's his name? We just met him.
332 00:18:23,791 00:18:25,750 - Yeah. - What is his name? - Yeah. - What is his name?
333 00:18:25,833 00:18:28,333 - Who? - The drummer. The greatest drummer ever. - Who? - The drummer. The greatest drummer ever.
334 00:18:28,416 00:18:29,250 Gene Krupa? Gene Krupa?
335 00:18:29,333 00:18:32,125 No. Gene Krupa? I'm talkin' about the drummer from Cream. No. Gene Krupa? I'm talkin' about the drummer from Cream.
336 00:18:32,208 00:18:33,625 We just met him last night. We just met him last night.
337 00:18:33,708 00:18:35,625 - Ginger Baker. - Thank you. - Ginger Baker. - Thank you.
338 00:18:36,416 00:18:39,666 Crowd outside is so big, it's as if we're Ginger Baker, I was trying to say. Crowd outside is so big, it's as if we're Ginger Baker, I was trying to say.
339 00:18:39,750 00:18:42,875 - Are you stoned? - Yeah. You? - Are you stoned? - Yeah. You?
340 00:18:44,375 00:18:45,375 All right, sit down. All right, sit down.
341 00:18:48,958 00:18:50,416 You remember what I said. You remember what I said.
342 00:18:50,916 00:18:53,666 Okay, and you remember to keep us out of prison. Okay, and you remember to keep us out of prison.
343 00:18:54,333 00:18:56,583 [Bill] There's a lot of good advice this morning. [Bill] There's a lot of good advice this morning.
344 00:18:56,666 00:18:57,708 [bailiff] All rise. [bailiff] All rise.
345 00:19:05,541 00:19:10,500 Hear ye, hear ye. September 26th, 1969, ten o'clock a.m. Hear ye, hear ye. September 26th, 1969, ten o'clock a.m.
346 00:19:10,583 00:19:13,375 All persons having business before the United States District Court All persons having business before the United States District Court
347 00:19:13,458 00:19:15,833 of Northern Illinois, Southern District, Eastern Division, of Northern Illinois, Southern District, Eastern Division,
348 00:19:15,916 00:19:17,791 draw near and ye shall be heard. draw near and ye shall be heard.
349 00:19:17,875 00:19:19,875 Judge Julius Hoffman presiding. Judge Julius Hoffman presiding.
350 00:19:19,958 00:19:22,791 God save the United States of America and this Honorable Court. God save the United States of America and this Honorable Court.
351 00:19:22,875 00:19:24,083 Be seated. Be seated.
352 00:19:26,291 00:19:29,666 Mr. Marshal, bring in our jury. Mr. Marshal, bring in our jury.
353 00:19:41,333 00:19:44,458 Let the record show that we have been joined Let the record show that we have been joined
354 00:19:44,541 00:19:48,083 by our 12 jurors and four alternates. by our 12 jurors and four alternates.
355 00:19:48,166 00:19:50,500 Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
356 00:19:51,041 00:19:52,041 Good morning. Good morning.
357 00:19:52,666 00:19:55,750 Mrs. Winter, please call the case. Mrs. Winter, please call the case.
358 00:19:55,833 00:19:58,750 69 CR 180, 69 CR 180,
359 00:19:58,833 00:20:03,375 United States of America v. David Dellinger, United States of America v. David Dellinger,
360 00:20:03,458 00:20:06,541 Rennard C. Davis, Thomas Hayden, Rennard C. Davis, Thomas Hayden,
361 00:20:06,625 00:20:09,791 Abbott Hoffman, Jerry C. Rubin, Abbott Hoffman, Jerry C. Rubin,
362 00:20:09,875 00:20:15,625 Lee Weiner, John R. Froines and Bobby G. Seale for trial. Lee Weiner, John R. Froines and Bobby G. Seale for trial.
363 00:20:15,708 00:20:18,041 Are the People ready to make opening arguments? Are the People ready to make opening arguments?
364 00:20:18,125 00:20:19,125 We are, Your Honor. We are, Your Honor.
365 00:20:19,166 00:20:22,375 - I don't have my lawyer here. - It's not your turn to speak. - I don't have my lawyer here. - It's not your turn to speak.
366 00:20:22,458 00:20:24,250 My trial's begun without my lawyer. My trial's begun without my lawyer.
367 00:20:24,333 00:20:26,833 - Please sit. - [spectators murmuring] - Please sit. - [spectators murmuring]
368 00:20:31,875 00:20:32,875 Mr. Schultz? Mr. Schultz?
369 00:20:36,041 00:20:38,541 Good morning. My name is Richard Schultz. Good morning. My name is Richard Schultz.
370 00:20:38,625 00:20:41,625 I'm an assistant US attorney for the Southern District of Illinois. I'm an assistant US attorney for the Southern District of Illinois.
371 00:20:41,708 00:20:44,583 Seated at my table is my boss, US Attorney Thomas Foran. Seated at my table is my boss, US Attorney Thomas Foran.
372 00:20:44,666 00:20:46,958 Or you could say, I'm seated at his table. Or you could say, I'm seated at his table.
373 00:20:47,041 00:20:48,291 [jurors chuckle softly] [jurors chuckle softly]
374 00:20:48,375 00:20:50,916 At the defense table are the eight defendants At the defense table are the eight defendants
375 00:20:51,000 00:20:54,458 represented by their lawyers William Kunstler, Leonard Weinglass. represented by their lawyers William Kunstler, Leonard Weinglass.
376 00:20:55,458 00:20:59,708 Now, the defendants would tell you that they represent three different groups. Now, the defendants would tell you that they represent three different groups.
377 00:20:59,791 00:21:02,375 - They would tell you that one group is... - [Hoffman] Excuse me. - They would tell you that one group is... - [Hoffman] Excuse me.
378 00:21:03,166 00:21:04,000 Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
379 00:21:04,083 00:21:07,208 I'd like to clarify something for the jurors. I'd like to clarify something for the jurors.
380 00:21:07,291 00:21:10,041 There are two Hoffmans in this courtroom. There are two Hoffmans in this courtroom.
381 00:21:10,125 00:21:14,791 The defendant Abbie Hoffman and myself, Judge Julius Hoffman. The defendant Abbie Hoffman and myself, Judge Julius Hoffman.
382 00:21:15,750 00:21:16,583 Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir.
383 00:21:16,666 00:21:19,166 I didn't want there to be confusion on the matter. I didn't want there to be confusion on the matter.
384 00:21:19,250 00:21:21,500 Man, I don't think they're gonna mix us up. Man, I don't think they're gonna mix us up.
385 00:21:21,583 00:21:23,000 [spectators laughing] [spectators laughing]
386 00:21:23,083 00:21:25,833 You will address this court as Judge or Your Honor, You will address this court as Judge or Your Honor,
387 00:21:25,916 00:21:28,833 and you will not address this court until… and you will not address this court until…
388 00:21:28,916 00:21:30,666 You will not address this court! You will not address this court!
389 00:21:33,291 00:21:36,250 The defendants would tell you they represent three different groups. The defendants would tell you they represent three different groups.
390 00:21:36,333 00:21:38,500 [Hoffman] And the record should reflect [Hoffman] And the record should reflect
391 00:21:38,583 00:21:42,583 that defendant Hoffman and I are not related. that defendant Hoffman and I are not related.
392 00:21:42,666 00:21:44,083 Father, no! Father, no!
393 00:21:44,166 00:21:45,559 - [spectators laugh] - [gavel bangs] - [spectators laugh] - [gavel bangs]
394 00:21:45,583 00:21:48,708 Mr. Hoffman, are you familiar with contempt of court? Mr. Hoffman, are you familiar with contempt of court?
395 00:21:49,375 00:21:52,541 - It's practically a religion for me, sir. - [spectators laugh] - It's practically a religion for me, sir. - [spectators laugh]
396 00:21:53,791 00:21:55,750 - Your Honor? - Continue. - Your Honor? - Continue.
397 00:21:59,083 00:22:02,500 Rennie Davis and Tom Hayden are the leaders of the SDS, Rennie Davis and Tom Hayden are the leaders of the SDS,
398 00:22:02,583 00:22:04,375 Students for a Democratic Society. Students for a Democratic Society.
399 00:22:05,000 00:22:07,708 Davis and Hayden brought their people to Chicago Davis and Hayden brought their people to Chicago
400 00:22:07,791 00:22:10,500 for the purpose of causing violence in the streets for the purpose of causing violence in the streets
401 00:22:10,583 00:22:13,166 in order to disrupt the Democratic Convention. in order to disrupt the Democratic Convention.
402 00:22:13,250 00:22:16,125 You know the Youth International Party as the Yippies. You know the Youth International Party as the Yippies.
403 00:22:16,875 00:22:19,541 Their leaders are Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin. Their leaders are Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin.
404 00:22:19,625 00:22:23,000 Bobby Seale is the leader of the Black Panther Party. Bobby Seale is the leader of the Black Panther Party.
405 00:22:23,583 00:22:27,416 Again, the defendants would tell you that these are three distinct groups. Again, the defendants would tell you that these are three distinct groups.
406 00:22:27,500 00:22:29,333 - But they all... - [Bobby] Excuse me. - But they all... - [Bobby] Excuse me.
407 00:22:29,416 00:22:30,250 [Hoffman] Yes. [Hoffman] Yes.
408 00:22:30,333 00:22:32,458 - May I speak? - [Hoffman] No, sir. - May I speak? - [Hoffman] No, sir.
409 00:22:32,541 00:22:33,625 He just said my name. He just said my name.
410 00:22:33,708 00:22:37,458 You're a defendant in this case. You're likely to hear your name. You're a defendant in this case. You're likely to hear your name.
411 00:22:37,541 00:22:41,291 I have a right to counsel, and His Honor knows that. I have a right to counsel, and His Honor knows that.
412 00:22:41,375 00:22:45,541 Don't tell the court what it does and does not know. Be seated. Don't tell the court what it does and does not know. Be seated.
413 00:22:48,875 00:22:50,250 Mr. Schultz. Mr. Schultz.
414 00:22:54,208 00:22:55,625 The radical left. That's all. The radical left. That's all.
415 00:22:55,708 00:22:57,750 They're the radical left in different costumes. They're the radical left in different costumes.
416 00:22:57,833 00:22:59,583 These defendants had a plan, These defendants had a plan,
417 00:22:59,666 00:23:02,500 and a plan among two or more people is a conspiracy. and a plan among two or more people is a conspiracy.
418 00:23:03,083 00:23:05,708 The defendants crossed state lines to execute their plan. The defendants crossed state lines to execute their plan.
419 00:23:05,791 00:23:09,333 That's why we're in federal court, and the plan was to incite a riot, That's why we're in federal court, and the plan was to incite a riot,
420 00:23:09,416 00:23:11,750 and there's one thing you already know. and there's one thing you already know.
421 00:23:12,500 00:23:13,583 They succeeded. They succeeded.
422 00:23:13,666 00:23:18,708 Excuse me. Have we identified the other defendants for the record? Excuse me. Have we identified the other defendants for the record?
423 00:23:19,541 00:23:21,208 A Mr… Wiener. A Mr… Wiener.
424 00:23:21,833 00:23:22,666 Weiner. Weiner.
425 00:23:22,750 00:23:25,250 - [spectators laugh] - [Hoffman] Mr. Froines and Mr. Dillinger. - [spectators laugh] - [Hoffman] Mr. Froines and Mr. Dillinger.
426 00:23:25,333 00:23:26,458 Dellinger, Your Honor. Dellinger, Your Honor.
427 00:23:27,208 00:23:28,291 What's going on here? What's going on here?
428 00:23:28,375 00:23:30,750 Uh, you're referring to the defendant Dellinger. Uh, you're referring to the defendant Dellinger.
429 00:23:30,833 00:23:34,083 - Derringer. - Um, it's Dellinger, sir. - Derringer. - Um, it's Dellinger, sir.
430 00:23:34,166 00:23:39,291 Note the prosecution was referring to the defendant Derringer. Note the prosecution was referring to the defendant Derringer.
431 00:23:39,375 00:23:41,916 - Not Dellinger. - It is Dellinger, Your Honor. - Not Dellinger. - It is Dellinger, Your Honor.
432 00:23:42,000 00:23:43,916 [Hoffman] Can we straighten this out? [Hoffman] Can we straighten this out?
433 00:23:44,000 00:23:47,833 Sure. Dillinger was a bank robber. Derringer is a gun. Sure. Dillinger was a bank robber. Derringer is a gun.
434 00:23:47,916 00:23:50,916 He's David Dellinger, and the judge and I are not related. He's David Dellinger, and the judge and I are not related.
435 00:23:51,000 00:23:54,500 Your Honor, I'd like to caution the court that this kind of disruption Your Honor, I'd like to caution the court that this kind of disruption
436 00:23:54,583 00:23:58,166 and display of disrespect will be a continuing tactic for defense. and display of disrespect will be a continuing tactic for defense.
437 00:23:58,250 00:24:00,500 [Bill] Sir, it's not a tactic. At the moment, [Bill] Sir, it's not a tactic. At the moment,
438 00:24:00,583 00:24:03,750 the defendants are the only ones on record as knowing their own names. the defendants are the only ones on record as knowing their own names.
439 00:24:03,833 00:24:05,583 [Hoffman] Be seated, Mr. Schultz… [Hoffman] Be seated, Mr. Schultz…
440 00:24:05,666 00:24:07,833 Uh, Mr. Kunstler. Uh, Mr. Kunstler.
441 00:24:09,875 00:24:12,291 I object to being characterized as a member of this group. I object to being characterized as a member of this group.
442 00:24:12,375 00:24:14,708 - Who is your lawyer? - [Bobby] Charles R. Garry. - Who is your lawyer? - [Bobby] Charles R. Garry.
443 00:24:14,791 00:24:16,625 Is Mr. Garry here today? Is Mr. Garry here today?
444 00:24:16,708 00:24:18,083 - No, he is not. - Your Honor... - No, he is not. - Your Honor...
445 00:24:18,166 00:24:19,708 Are you representing Mr. Seale? Are you representing Mr. Seale?
446 00:24:19,791 00:24:21,541 - No, sir. - [Hoffman] Then, sit. - No, sir. - [Hoffman] Then, sit.
447 00:24:23,500 00:24:26,083 - Mr. Schultz, forgive me. - [indistinct conversation] - Mr. Schultz, forgive me. - [indistinct conversation]
448 00:24:26,625 00:24:28,791 Have you concluded your opening statement? Have you concluded your opening statement?
449 00:24:29,708 00:24:30,833 Yes, Your Honor. Yes, Your Honor.
450 00:24:30,916 00:24:33,583 My lawyer Charles Garry is in a hospital in Oakland My lawyer Charles Garry is in a hospital in Oakland
451 00:24:33,666 00:24:35,541 having undergone gallbladder surgery. having undergone gallbladder surgery.
452 00:24:35,625 00:24:36,791 [Hoffman] Mr. Kunstler. [Hoffman] Mr. Kunstler.
453 00:24:37,500 00:24:39,666 You are sitting right next to the man. You are sitting right next to the man.
454 00:24:39,750 00:24:42,125 Just represent him. It's the same case. Just represent him. It's the same case.
455 00:24:42,208 00:24:45,041 The fact that there's a lawyer near Mr. Seale The fact that there's a lawyer near Mr. Seale
456 00:24:45,125 00:24:47,625 does not satisfy the requirements of due process. does not satisfy the requirements of due process.
457 00:24:47,708 00:24:48,791 I have a right... I have a right...
458 00:24:48,875 00:24:53,833 A motion was made for postponement due to Mr. Garry's medical condition. A motion was made for postponement due to Mr. Garry's medical condition.
459 00:24:53,916 00:24:56,625 I was there. Your Honor denied that motion. I was there. Your Honor denied that motion.
460 00:24:56,708 00:24:59,791 Therefore, Mr. Seale is here without legal representation. Therefore, Mr. Seale is here without legal representation.
461 00:24:59,875 00:25:04,666 I don't care for your general tone, Mr. Kunstler. I don't care for your general tone, Mr. Kunstler.
462 00:25:04,750 00:25:07,041 I meant no disrespect to the court. I meant no disrespect to the court.
463 00:25:07,125 00:25:11,583 I'm trying to be clear that I can't muddy Mr. Seale's grounds for appeal I'm trying to be clear that I can't muddy Mr. Seale's grounds for appeal
464 00:25:11,666 00:25:13,500 by appearing to speak as his lawyer. by appearing to speak as his lawyer.
465 00:25:13,583 00:25:17,041 I don't ask you to compromise Mr. Seale's position, sir. I don't ask you to compromise Mr. Seale's position, sir.
466 00:25:17,125 00:25:21,416 But I will not permit him to address the jury But I will not permit him to address the jury
467 00:25:21,500 00:25:23,958 when his perfectly competent lawyer is sitting... when his perfectly competent lawyer is sitting...
468 00:25:24,041 00:25:26,416 For the fourth time, he's not Bobby's lawyer. For the fourth time, he's not Bobby's lawyer.
469 00:25:28,833 00:25:31,291 You're, uh… Mr. Rubin. You're, uh… Mr. Rubin.
470 00:25:31,958 00:25:33,041 Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
471 00:25:33,125 00:25:34,583 Don't ever do that again! Don't ever do that again!
472 00:25:37,333 00:25:39,166 [Bobby] Your Honor, I'm not with these guys. [Bobby] Your Honor, I'm not with these guys.
473 00:25:39,250 00:25:42,250 I never met most of them until the indictment. I never met most of them until the indictment.
474 00:25:42,333 00:25:44,666 - We will have order. - There are eight of us here. - We will have order. - There are eight of us here.
475 00:25:44,750 00:25:48,708 There are signs out there that read, "Free the Chicago 7." I'm not with them! There are signs out there that read, "Free the Chicago 7." I'm not with them!
476 00:25:48,791 00:25:52,791 - Mr. Marshal, will you seat Mr. Seale? - Conspiracy? I never met most of them. - Mr. Marshal, will you seat Mr. Seale? - Conspiracy? I never met most of them.
477 00:25:52,875 00:25:56,500 Frankly, the US attorney wanted a Negro defendant to scare the jury. Frankly, the US attorney wanted a Negro defendant to scare the jury.
478 00:25:56,583 00:25:59,000 I was thrown in to make the group look scarier. I was thrown in to make the group look scarier.
479 00:25:59,083 00:26:01,125 I came to Chicago. I made a speech! I came to Chicago. I made a speech!
480 00:26:01,208 00:26:02,958 - Mr. Seale... - I had a chicken pot pie, - Mr. Seale... - I had a chicken pot pie,
481 00:26:03,041 00:26:05,375 went to the airport and I flew back to Oakland, went to the airport and I flew back to Oakland,
482 00:26:05,458 00:26:07,000 that's why they call it the Chicago… that's why they call it the Chicago…
483 00:26:07,083 00:26:08,916 - [gavel banging] - Get your hands off me! - [gavel banging] - Get your hands off me!
484 00:26:09,000 00:26:12,833 Charge Mr. Seale with one count of contempt of court. Charge Mr. Seale with one count of contempt of court.
485 00:26:36,541 00:26:37,875 [door slams] [door slams]
486 00:26:38,541 00:26:40,208 We have to make a decision right now, We have to make a decision right now,
487 00:26:40,291 00:26:44,333 a decision I assumed we'd already made four months ago when trial prep began. a decision I assumed we'd already made four months ago when trial prep began.
488 00:26:44,416 00:26:48,666 Are we using this trial to defend ourselves against very serious charges Are we using this trial to defend ourselves against very serious charges
489 00:26:48,750 00:26:50,500 that could land us in prison for ten years? that could land us in prison for ten years?
490 00:26:51,583 00:26:54,500 Or to say a pointless "fuck you" to the establishment? Or to say a pointless "fuck you" to the establishment?
491 00:26:54,583 00:26:57,666 - Fuck you! - That is what I was afraid… - Fuck you! - That is what I was afraid…
492 00:26:58,541 00:27:01,541 - Were you saying "fuck you" or answering... - I was also confused. - Were you saying "fuck you" or answering... - I was also confused.
493 00:27:01,625 00:27:05,125 If we leave without saying anything about why we came in the first place, If we leave without saying anything about why we came in the first place,
494 00:27:05,208 00:27:06,291 it'll be heartbreaking. it'll be heartbreaking.
495 00:27:06,375 00:27:08,708 If the jury finds us guilty, we're not leaving at all. If the jury finds us guilty, we're not leaving at all.
496 00:27:08,791 00:27:11,375 The only thing we need to say about why we came here The only thing we need to say about why we came here
497 00:27:11,458 00:27:13,208 is it wasn't to incite violence. is it wasn't to incite violence.
498 00:27:14,000 00:27:15,000 I'm with Jerry. I'm with Jerry.
499 00:27:16,083 00:27:18,708 - Why? - The trial shouldn't be about us. - Why? - The trial shouldn't be about us.
500 00:27:18,791 00:27:22,250 I would love it if it wasn't about us, but it definitely is. John? Lee? I would love it if it wasn't about us, but it definitely is. John? Lee?
501 00:27:22,875 00:27:24,625 Does anyone think our judge is crazy? Does anyone think our judge is crazy?
502 00:27:24,708 00:27:27,166 - He isn't our problem. - Give it time. He will be. - He isn't our problem. - Give it time. He will be.
503 00:27:27,250 00:27:31,166 I'm talking about us. Abbie, you cannot talk back to the judge. I'm talking about us. Abbie, you cannot talk back to the judge.
504 00:27:31,250 00:27:34,583 - And, Jerry… Jesus! - Did you get a haircut just for court? - And, Jerry… Jesus! - Did you get a haircut just for court?
505 00:27:36,000 00:27:38,916 - I did. - A haircut for the judge. That is… - I did. - A haircut for the judge. That is…
506 00:27:39,666 00:27:42,000 [laughs] I can't even. That is… [laughs] I can't even. That is…
507 00:27:42,083 00:27:43,750 That is so foreign to me. That is so foreign to me.
508 00:27:43,833 00:27:45,333 - So is soap. - Zing. - So is soap. - Zing.
509 00:27:45,416 00:27:48,583 Let me explain something. It took you two less than five minutes Let me explain something. It took you two less than five minutes
510 00:27:48,666 00:27:52,416 to make us look exactly like what Schultz is trying to make us look like. to make us look exactly like what Schultz is trying to make us look like.
511 00:27:52,500 00:27:54,625 I don't have a problem with what we look like. I don't have a problem with what we look like.
512 00:27:54,708 00:27:57,291 Jerry likes what we look like. Uh, John? Jerry likes what we look like. Uh, John?
513 00:27:57,375 00:27:58,458 - Lee? - Yeah. - Lee? - Yeah.
514 00:27:58,541 00:28:02,125 - I feel like I'm ten pounds too heavy. - I don't like it when we fight. - I feel like I'm ten pounds too heavy. - I don't like it when we fight.
515 00:28:02,208 00:28:04,000 - Rennie? - Tom should be heard. - Rennie? - Tom should be heard.
516 00:28:04,083 00:28:05,083 [Abbie] And he was. [Abbie] And he was.
517 00:28:05,625 00:28:10,125 When we walked in here, they were chanting that the whole world is watching. When we walked in here, they were chanting that the whole world is watching.
518 00:28:10,208 00:28:11,916 This is it. We're on. This is it. We're on.
519 00:28:12,000 00:28:16,166 This is what revolution looks like. Real revolution. Cultural revolution. This is what revolution looks like. Real revolution. Cultural revolution.
520 00:28:16,250 00:28:17,791 Why did you come here? Why did you come here?
521 00:28:17,875 00:28:19,791 I got an invitation from a grand jury. I got an invitation from a grand jury.
522 00:28:19,875 00:28:21,916 Last summer. Why did you come to the convention? Last summer. Why did you come to the convention?
523 00:28:22,916 00:28:24,416 To end the war. To end the war.
524 00:28:24,500 00:28:26,750 Guys, before you tether yourselves to this man, Guys, before you tether yourselves to this man,
525 00:28:26,833 00:28:30,250 just know the very last thing he wants is for the war to end. just know the very last thing he wants is for the war to end.
526 00:28:30,333 00:28:35,333 I don't have time for cultural revolution. It distracts from actual revolution. I don't have time for cultural revolution. It distracts from actual revolution.
527 00:28:35,416 00:28:37,250 All right, all right, all right. All right, all right, all right.
528 00:28:37,333 00:28:39,250 [Abbie] But you got time for a haircut. [Abbie] But you got time for a haircut.
529 00:28:39,333 00:28:41,250 Has everybody got everything off their chest? Has everybody got everything off their chest?
530 00:28:41,833 00:28:44,416 - What in the name of hell was that? - Evidently not. - What in the name of hell was that? - Evidently not.
531 00:28:44,500 00:28:45,958 [Fred] You spoke for Bobby. [Fred] You spoke for Bobby.
532 00:28:46,041 00:28:48,458 I made it very clear that I'm not his lawyer. I made it very clear that I'm not his lawyer.
533 00:28:48,541 00:28:50,861 - I'd like to sit in on these meetings. - [Bill] You can't. - I'd like to sit in on these meetings. - [Bill] You can't.
534 00:28:50,916 00:28:52,625 - I think I will anyway. - Fred... - I think I will anyway. - Fred...
535 00:28:52,708 00:28:54,958 Bobby's life is at stake. You're playing to the crowd. Bobby's life is at stake. You're playing to the crowd.
536 00:28:55,041 00:28:56,750 - Thank you. - Shut up. - Thank you. - Shut up.
537 00:28:56,833 00:29:00,541 White guys sitting in a furnished room eating sandwiches while Bobby's in a cell. White guys sitting in a furnished room eating sandwiches while Bobby's in a cell.
538 00:29:00,625 00:29:02,791 White guys are free on bail. Bobby's locked up White guys are free on bail. Bobby's locked up
539 00:29:02,875 00:29:05,666 because he's under arrest in Connecticut for killing a cop. because he's under arrest in Connecticut for killing a cop.
540 00:29:05,750 00:29:08,625 It's not like he refused to give up his seat on a bus. It's not like he refused to give up his seat on a bus.
541 00:29:08,708 00:29:12,458 Convince him to let Bill and me represent him, just for today, at least. Convince him to let Bill and me represent him, just for today, at least.
542 00:29:12,541 00:29:14,000 - The judge is... - Fucking nuts. - The judge is... - Fucking nuts.
543 00:29:14,083 00:29:17,291 A little hostile. I'm sure Garry didn't anticipate that. A little hostile. I'm sure Garry didn't anticipate that.
544 00:29:19,375 00:29:20,583 He's innocent in Connecticut. He's innocent in Connecticut.
545 00:29:20,666 00:29:22,541 - All right. - He's never killed anyone. - All right. - He's never killed anyone.
546 00:29:22,625 00:29:25,000 - It's important that you all know that. - Okay. - It's important that you all know that. - Okay.
547 00:29:25,083 00:29:28,166 All right, you gotta try to convince him. All right, you gotta try to convince him.
548 00:29:30,041 00:29:31,041 I can't. I can't.
549 00:29:31,416 00:29:33,583 - [Bill] Well, try. - I have! - [Bill] Well, try. - I have!
550 00:29:34,250 00:29:35,708 Well, keep trying, all right? Well, keep trying, all right?
551 00:29:37,125 00:29:38,166 We're back. We're back.
552 00:29:38,833 00:29:39,833 Let's go. Let's go.
553 00:29:40,375 00:29:43,666 Jerry, Abbie, unless you're asked a direct question, Jerry, Abbie, unless you're asked a direct question,
554 00:29:43,750 00:29:46,208 I want you to keep your mouths shut in that room. I want you to keep your mouths shut in that room.
555 00:29:46,291 00:29:48,291 - [Abbie] This is a political trial. - What? - [Abbie] This is a political trial. - What?
556 00:29:48,375 00:29:51,875 This is a political trial that was already decided for us. This is a political trial that was already decided for us.
557 00:29:52,416 00:29:55,083 Ignoring that reality is just weird to me. Ignoring that reality is just weird to me.
558 00:29:55,166 00:29:58,375 There are civil trials and there are criminal trials. There are civil trials and there are criminal trials.
559 00:29:58,458 00:30:00,666 There's no such thing as a political trial. There's no such thing as a political trial.
560 00:30:00,750 00:30:01,833 Okay. Okay.
561 00:30:18,416 00:30:20,291 Abbie's smarter than you think he is. Abbie's smarter than you think he is.
562 00:30:22,291 00:30:24,333 Cows are smarter than I think he is. Cows are smarter than I think he is.
563 00:30:26,291 00:30:29,041 - S-T-A-H-L. - [Schultz] What is your occupation? - S-T-A-H-L. - [Schultz] What is your occupation?
564 00:30:29,125 00:30:30,875 I am the mayor's administrative officer. I am the mayor's administrative officer.
565 00:30:30,958 00:30:36,791 Calling your attention to March 26, 1968. Did you have a meeting on that day? Calling your attention to March 26, 1968. Did you have a meeting on that day?
566 00:30:36,875 00:30:38,500 - Yes. - Uh, with whom? - Yes. - Uh, with whom?
567 00:30:38,583 00:30:41,875 - Mr. Hoffman and Mr. Rubin, is it? - Abbie and Jerry is fine. - Mr. Hoffman and Mr. Rubin, is it? - Abbie and Jerry is fine.
568 00:30:41,958 00:30:43,375 What was said at that meeting? What was said at that meeting?
569 00:30:43,458 00:30:47,333 I was told the Youth International Party would be holding a festival of life I was told the Youth International Party would be holding a festival of life
570 00:30:47,416 00:30:49,750 during the Democratic National Convention. during the Democratic National Convention.
571 00:30:49,833 00:30:52,166 There would be thousands of young people attending There would be thousands of young people attending
572 00:30:52,250 00:30:54,291 and there'd be rock bands playing in the park. and there'd be rock bands playing in the park.
573 00:30:54,375 00:30:55,666 Music will be performed. Music will be performed.
574 00:30:55,750 00:30:57,666 - Rock music? - I would think. - Rock music? - I would think.
575 00:30:57,750 00:31:00,333 They also said there would be public fornication. They also said there would be public fornication.
576 00:31:00,416 00:31:01,583 Say that again, sir? Say that again, sir?
577 00:31:01,666 00:31:03,125 Public fornication. Public fornication.
578 00:31:03,208 00:31:05,708 You're asking for a Parks permit for public... You're asking for a Parks permit for public...
579 00:31:05,791 00:31:07,041 - Yeah. - And rock music. - Yeah. - And rock music.
580 00:31:07,125 00:31:08,041 No, of course not. No, of course not.
581 00:31:08,125 00:31:09,250 What if it was R&B? What if it was R&B?
582 00:31:09,333 00:31:12,125 - Did you issue the permits? - No, I did not. - Did you issue the permits? - No, I did not.
583 00:31:12,708 00:31:17,583 And what, if anything, did Abbie Hoffman say when you denied their request? And what, if anything, did Abbie Hoffman say when you denied their request?
584 00:31:17,666 00:31:19,958 Mr. Stahl, you need to understand something. Mr. Stahl, you need to understand something.
585 00:31:20,041 00:31:24,625 There's gonna be a festival of life in Grant Park held during the convention. There's gonna be a festival of life in Grant Park held during the convention.
586 00:31:24,708 00:31:28,458 Bands will play rock music. There will be public fornication. Bands will play rock music. There will be public fornication.
587 00:31:28,541 00:31:31,291 Likely some of it with the wives and mistresses of delegates. Likely some of it with the wives and mistresses of delegates.
588 00:31:31,375 00:31:35,166 Psychedelic, long-haired leftists will consort with dope users. Psychedelic, long-haired leftists will consort with dope users.
589 00:31:35,750 00:31:38,375 And we'll insist that the next president of the US And we'll insist that the next president of the US
590 00:31:38,458 00:31:40,625 stops sending our friends to be slaughtered. stops sending our friends to be slaughtered.
591 00:31:40,708 00:31:43,125 This will happen whether you give us the permit or not. This will happen whether you give us the permit or not.
592 00:31:43,208 00:31:45,791 Hotels will be filled with delegates. Where will people sleep? Hotels will be filled with delegates. Where will people sleep?
593 00:31:45,875 00:31:48,541 Some will sleep in tents, others will live frivolously. Some will sleep in tents, others will live frivolously.
594 00:31:48,625 00:31:50,583 - How many people are coming? - A lot. - How many people are coming? - A lot.
595 00:31:50,666 00:31:53,958 What's a lot? A thousand? Two thousand? What's a lot? A thousand? Two thousand?
596 00:31:54,041 00:31:55,041 Ten thousand. Ten thousand.
597 00:31:55,125 00:31:57,250 - Jesus Christ. - Right? - Jesus Christ. - Right?
598 00:31:58,041 00:32:01,166 Did Abbie Hoffman add anything at the end of the meeting? Did Abbie Hoffman add anything at the end of the meeting?
599 00:32:01,250 00:32:02,250 Yes. Yes.
600 00:32:02,291 00:32:04,083 - [Schultz] What did he say? - He said… - [Schultz] What did he say? - He said…
601 00:32:04,166 00:32:07,000 Or you give me 100 grand and I could call the whole thing off. Or you give me 100 grand and I could call the whole thing off.
602 00:32:07,083 00:32:08,125 Thank you. Thank you.
603 00:32:09,625 00:32:11,125 Mr. Fineglass. Mr. Fineglass.
604 00:32:11,208 00:32:13,000 Uh, Weinglass, sir. Uh, Weinglass, sir.
605 00:32:14,416 00:32:18,500 Mr. Stahl, the meeting you just described with Mr. Hoffman and Mr. Rubin, Mr. Stahl, the meeting you just described with Mr. Hoffman and Mr. Rubin,
606 00:32:18,583 00:32:21,750 was that the only meeting you had with any of the defendants? was that the only meeting you had with any of the defendants?
607 00:32:21,833 00:32:22,833 No. No.
608 00:32:22,875 00:32:26,541 On August 2nd, you had a meeting with Tom Hayden and Rennie Davis. On August 2nd, you had a meeting with Tom Hayden and Rennie Davis.
609 00:32:26,625 00:32:29,125 - Tom Hayden. - Rennie Davis. - Tom Hayden. - Rennie Davis.
610 00:32:29,208 00:32:31,958 On August 12th, you had a meeting with David Dellinger. On August 12th, you had a meeting with David Dellinger.
611 00:32:32,500 00:32:34,416 I'll tell you the same thing I told the others. I'll tell you the same thing I told the others.
612 00:32:34,500 00:32:37,041 There were two more meetings with Tom and Rennie There were two more meetings with Tom and Rennie
613 00:32:37,125 00:32:39,333 on the 10th and 12th of August, on the 10th and 12th of August,
614 00:32:39,416 00:32:43,041 and one more meeting with David Dellinger on the 26th. and one more meeting with David Dellinger on the 26th.
615 00:32:43,125 00:32:44,291 I can't be sure of the dates. I can't be sure of the dates.
616 00:32:44,375 00:32:47,625 Well, I can be sure. They're recorded in the log at City Hall. Well, I can be sure. They're recorded in the log at City Hall.
617 00:32:47,708 00:32:48,708 Okay… Okay…
618 00:32:48,750 00:32:52,833 And in each of the meetings, a request was made for a permit And in each of the meetings, a request was made for a permit
619 00:32:52,916 00:32:55,708 to demonstrate in Grant Park during the convention. to demonstrate in Grant Park during the convention.
620 00:32:55,791 00:32:58,958 Mr. Stahl, we intend a peaceful demonstration. Mr. Stahl, we intend a peaceful demonstration.
621 00:32:59,041 00:33:02,041 We're not interested in violence or disturbing the delegates. We're not interested in violence or disturbing the delegates.
622 00:33:02,125 00:33:05,958 And in each of the meetings, the request for permits was denied. And in each of the meetings, the request for permits was denied.
623 00:33:06,041 00:33:08,916 Listen, I'll tell you the same thing I told Mr. Hoffman Listen, I'll tell you the same thing I told Mr. Hoffman
624 00:33:09,000 00:33:10,791 and Mr. Rubin and Mr. Dellinger. and Mr. Rubin and Mr. Dellinger.
625 00:33:10,875 00:33:13,083 No demonstrations within sight of the Hilton. No demonstrations within sight of the Hilton.
626 00:33:13,166 00:33:16,041 We have to demonstrate there. That's where the convention is. We have to demonstrate there. That's where the convention is.
627 00:33:16,125 00:33:18,750 There will be no demonstrations within sight of the Hilton. There will be no demonstrations within sight of the Hilton.
628 00:33:18,833 00:33:21,083 Okay. But the thing is, there will be. Okay. But the thing is, there will be.
629 00:33:22,000 00:33:24,291 - Are you threatening me, Mr. Hayden? - No. - Are you threatening me, Mr. Hayden? - No.
630 00:33:24,375 00:33:26,833 We're not threatening you. We're cautioning you. We're not threatening you. We're cautioning you.
631 00:33:26,916 00:33:28,750 Thousands of people are coming to Chicago. Thousands of people are coming to Chicago.
632 00:33:28,833 00:33:30,833 If they're not given a place to demonstrate, If they're not given a place to demonstrate,
633 00:33:30,916 00:33:32,833 they'll demonstrate wherever they stand. they'll demonstrate wherever they stand.
634 00:33:32,916 00:33:35,041 So it's reckless, irresponsible, So it's reckless, irresponsible,
635 00:33:35,125 00:33:38,166 and foolishly dangerous of the city not to have a contingency plan. and foolishly dangerous of the city not to have a contingency plan.
636 00:33:38,250 00:33:40,666 We're gonna need police security, first aid… We're gonna need police security, first aid…
637 00:33:40,750 00:33:42,458 - Traffic control. - Water, sanitation. - Traffic control. - Water, sanitation.
638 00:33:42,541 00:33:47,125 So, five times, you were asked for a permit. So, five times, you were asked for a permit.
639 00:33:47,208 00:33:50,125 Five times, you were advised of the dangers Five times, you were advised of the dangers
640 00:33:50,208 00:33:52,666 of not providing a location to demonstrate... of not providing a location to demonstrate...
641 00:33:52,750 00:33:55,041 I don't take my instructions from the defendants. I don't take my instructions from the defendants.
642 00:33:55,125 00:33:56,485 - No, you don't. - [Stahl] I don't. - No, you don't. - [Stahl] I don't.
643 00:33:56,541 00:33:58,083 You take them from Mayor Daley. You take them from Mayor Daley.
644 00:33:59,500 00:34:02,125 You're appointed by the mayor and you serve at his pleasure? You're appointed by the mayor and you serve at his pleasure?
645 00:34:02,208 00:34:03,041 Yes. Yes.
646 00:34:03,125 00:34:06,250 And you're subject to removal in the same manner by the mayor? And you're subject to removal in the same manner by the mayor?
647 00:34:06,833 00:34:08,833 - Yes. - Thank you. - Yes. - Thank you.
648 00:34:08,916 00:34:11,791 Further cross-examination, Mr. Kunstler. Further cross-examination, Mr. Kunstler.
649 00:34:11,875 00:34:14,416 Yes, sir. Mr. Stahl. When Abbie... Yes, sir. Mr. Stahl. When Abbie...
650 00:34:14,500 00:34:15,666 Excuse me. Excuse me.
651 00:34:15,750 00:34:20,375 Mr. Seale, would you identify the man sitting behind you? Mr. Seale, would you identify the man sitting behind you?
652 00:34:21,375 00:34:22,875 - No, sir. - No? - No, sir. - No?
653 00:34:22,958 00:34:24,125 - That's right. - Why not? - That's right. - Why not?
654 00:34:24,208 00:34:25,875 He's not on trial here. He's not on trial here.
655 00:34:25,958 00:34:31,125 - Mr. Seale, identify the man behind you. - [whispering indistinctly] - Mr. Seale, identify the man behind you. - [whispering indistinctly]
656 00:34:35,208 00:34:36,291 His name is Fred Hampton. His name is Fred Hampton.
657 00:34:36,375 00:34:37,875 [Hoffman] Let the record indicate [Hoffman] Let the record indicate
658 00:34:37,958 00:34:42,041 that Mr. Hampton is head of the Chicago chapter of the Black Panther Party. that Mr. Hampton is head of the Chicago chapter of the Black Panther Party.
659 00:34:42,125 00:34:46,291 Your Honor, Mr. Hampton isn't at the bar. Why is the record identifying him at all? Your Honor, Mr. Hampton isn't at the bar. Why is the record identifying him at all?
660 00:34:46,375 00:34:49,625 Mr. Hampton is clearly giving Mr. Seale legal advice. Mr. Hampton is clearly giving Mr. Seale legal advice.
661 00:34:49,708 00:34:51,958 My lawyer is Charles Garry. My lawyer is Charles Garry.
662 00:34:52,041 00:34:53,583 Excuse me, sir, but for all you know, Excuse me, sir, but for all you know,
663 00:34:53,666 00:34:56,625 Mr. Hampton is giving Mr. Seale the score of the White Sox game. Mr. Hampton is giving Mr. Seale the score of the White Sox game.
664 00:34:56,708 00:34:59,000 - I will assume that he is not. - Why? - I will assume that he is not. - Why?
665 00:34:59,083 00:35:02,958 Because that's what happens when you don't have a lawyer. Because that's what happens when you don't have a lawyer.
666 00:35:03,041 00:35:06,416 The court assumes that you are being represented The court assumes that you are being represented
667 00:35:06,500 00:35:09,500 by the Black Panther sitting behind you. by the Black Panther sitting behind you.
668 00:35:09,583 00:35:12,208 [spectators murmuring] [spectators murmuring]
669 00:35:12,791 00:35:13,791 Continue. Continue.
670 00:35:14,416 00:35:19,333 Mr. Stahl, when Abbie offered to call the whole thing off for $100,000, Mr. Stahl, when Abbie offered to call the whole thing off for $100,000,
671 00:35:19,416 00:35:23,708 did you think that he was serious or did you think he was making a joke? did you think that he was serious or did you think he was making a joke?
672 00:35:23,791 00:35:26,625 I had no reason not to think he was serious. I had no reason not to think he was serious.
673 00:35:26,708 00:35:29,333 - Really? Do you know what extortion is? - Yes. - Really? Do you know what extortion is? - Yes.
674 00:35:29,416 00:35:31,000 - Do you know it's a felony? - Yes. - Do you know it's a felony? - Yes.
675 00:35:31,083 00:35:33,125 Okay. So, when you called the FBI Okay. So, when you called the FBI
676 00:35:33,208 00:35:36,916 and told 'em about Mr. Hoffman's attempt to extort a government employee, and told 'em about Mr. Hoffman's attempt to extort a government employee,
677 00:35:37,000 00:35:38,958 - what'd they say? - I didn't call the FBI. - what'd they say? - I didn't call the FBI.
678 00:35:39,041 00:35:42,125 Sorry. When you called the US attorney and reported attempted extortion, Sorry. When you called the US attorney and reported attempted extortion,
679 00:35:42,208 00:35:44,541 - what'd their office say? - I didn't call the US att... - what'd their office say? - I didn't call the US att...
680 00:35:44,625 00:35:47,041 - Cooke County DA. Did you call them? - No, sir. - Cooke County DA. Did you call them? - No, sir.
681 00:35:47,125 00:35:49,000 - The chief of police? - Mr. Kunstler... - The chief of police? - Mr. Kunstler...
682 00:35:49,083 00:35:51,625 The police officer posted outside the mayor's office? The police officer posted outside the mayor's office?
683 00:35:51,708 00:35:55,083 How about the mayor? Mr. Stahl, I'm gonna ask you again. How about the mayor? Mr. Stahl, I'm gonna ask you again.
684 00:35:55,666 00:36:01,458 When Abbie Hoffman asked for $100,000 to call the whole thing off, When Abbie Hoffman asked for $100,000 to call the whole thing off,
685 00:36:01,541 00:36:06,000 did you think that he was serious or did you know that he was making a joke? did you think that he was serious or did you know that he was making a joke?
686 00:36:06,083 00:36:08,958 I had no reason not to believe he was serious. I had no reason not to believe he was serious.
687 00:36:09,041 00:36:12,333 Then, along with extortion, did you know that perjury is a crime? Then, along with extortion, did you know that perjury is a crime?
688 00:36:12,416 00:36:14,708 - Objection. - Sustained, and strike it. - Objection. - Sustained, and strike it.
689 00:36:14,791 00:36:15,708 In fact, In fact,
690 00:36:15,791 00:36:19,875 strike the entirety of Mr. Stahl's testimony under cross-examination, strike the entirety of Mr. Stahl's testimony under cross-examination,
691 00:36:19,958 00:36:22,750 and the jury is instructed to disregard it. and the jury is instructed to disregard it.
692 00:36:22,833 00:36:25,791 You're gonna strike the entire cross-examination? You're gonna strike the entire cross-examination?
693 00:36:25,875 00:36:28,666 I gave you and co-counsel Fineglass ample... I gave you and co-counsel Fineglass ample...
694 00:36:28,750 00:36:30,666 Co-counsel's name is Weinglass. Co-counsel's name is Weinglass.
695 00:36:30,750 00:36:34,125 Mr. Stahl's testimony under cross-examination is entirely... Mr. Stahl's testimony under cross-examination is entirely...
696 00:36:34,208 00:36:36,833 You are interrupting the court again, Mr. Kunstler. You are interrupting the court again, Mr. Kunstler.
697 00:36:36,916 00:36:38,750 Move to reinstate testimony. Move to reinstate testimony.
698 00:36:38,833 00:36:40,041 [defendants] Overruled. [defendants] Overruled.
699 00:36:40,125 00:36:41,708 [spectators murmuring] [spectators murmuring]
700 00:36:45,208 00:36:47,166 - Overruled. - Exception. - Overruled. - Exception.
701 00:36:47,250 00:36:49,916 Noted. Are there any further questions? Noted. Are there any further questions?
702 00:36:50,541 00:36:53,708 Yes. So, Mr. Stahl, in any of these meetings, Yes. So, Mr. Stahl, in any of these meetings,
703 00:36:53,791 00:36:57,375 did any of the defendants say that if you didn't grant them permits, did any of the defendants say that if you didn't grant them permits,
704 00:36:57,458 00:36:59,958 that they would do violent acts to the city? that they would do violent acts to the city?
705 00:37:00,041 00:37:05,500 Yes, they said the Parks permit should be issued in order to minimize destruction. Yes, they said the Parks permit should be issued in order to minimize destruction.
706 00:37:05,583 00:37:08,333 Did they indicate from whom this destruction would come? Did they indicate from whom this destruction would come?
707 00:37:09,041 00:37:12,041 The destruction did not come from the Chicago Police Department, The destruction did not come from the Chicago Police Department,
708 00:37:12,125 00:37:13,875 if that's what you're suggesting. if that's what you're suggesting.
709 00:37:15,208 00:37:16,416 No further questions. No further questions.
710 00:37:17,666 00:37:19,750 I'd like to cross-examine the witness, Your Honor. I'd like to cross-examine the witness, Your Honor.
711 00:37:19,833 00:37:21,583 - [Hoffman] You may not. - Have you met me? - [Hoffman] You may not. - Have you met me?
712 00:37:21,666 00:37:22,833 Sit, Mr. Seale. Sit, Mr. Seale.
713 00:37:28,791 00:37:30,500 Are you guilty of conspiracy? Are you guilty of conspiracy?
714 00:37:30,583 00:37:32,625 We believe that we are innocent. We believe that we are innocent.
715 00:37:32,708 00:37:36,416 The people who are guilty of conspiracy are the fuckers who put us on trial. The people who are guilty of conspiracy are the fuckers who put us on trial.
716 00:37:36,500 00:37:40,041 They are responsible for the bloodshed that flowed in the streets of Chicago. They are responsible for the bloodshed that flowed in the streets of Chicago.
717 00:37:40,125 00:37:42,541 Why won't Bobby Seale let anyone represent him? Why won't Bobby Seale let anyone represent him?
718 00:37:42,625 00:37:45,000 You've posed that question in the form of a lie. You've posed that question in the form of a lie.
719 00:37:48,583 00:37:50,500 [reporters clamor] [reporters clamor]
720 00:37:50,583 00:37:53,416 [telephone ringing] [telephone ringing]
721 00:37:53,500 00:37:55,416 [woman] Conspiracy Office. Can you hold on? [woman] Conspiracy Office. Can you hold on?
722 00:37:55,500 00:37:57,833 [telephones continue ringing] [telephones continue ringing]
723 00:37:57,916 00:37:59,958 Conspiracy Office. Can you hold on? Conspiracy Office. Can you hold on?
724 00:38:05,791 00:38:07,750 Conspiracy Office. Can you hold on? Conspiracy Office. Can you hold on?
725 00:38:07,833 00:38:11,333 Maybe you don't want to call it the, uh, Conspiracy Office. Maybe you don't want to call it the, uh, Conspiracy Office.
726 00:38:11,416 00:38:13,416 They understand irony and appreciate the humor. They understand irony and appreciate the humor.
727 00:38:13,500 00:38:16,083 - I wouldn't count on it. - Most people are smart, Bill. - I wouldn't count on it. - Most people are smart, Bill.
728 00:38:16,166 00:38:19,583 If you believe that, you'll get your heart broken every day of your life. If you believe that, you'll get your heart broken every day of your life.
729 00:38:19,666 00:38:23,083 - [telephone rings] - Hang on. Hi, how can I help you? - [telephone rings] - Hang on. Hi, how can I help you?
730 00:38:23,166 00:38:24,000 Messages? Messages?
731 00:38:24,083 00:38:27,333 We sure do take contributions. We've got high-priced lawyers. We sure do take contributions. We've got high-priced lawyers.
732 00:38:27,416 00:38:29,125 High-priced lawyers are working for free. High-priced lawyers are working for free.
733 00:38:29,208 00:38:31,208 - It's the support staff. - We can't take grass. - It's the support staff. - We can't take grass.
734 00:38:31,291 00:38:32,458 - [Abbie] Hey! - Yeah. - [Abbie] Hey! - Yeah.
735 00:38:32,541 00:38:34,708 - Abbie says we'll take the weed. - [Bill] Messages? - Abbie says we'll take the weed. - [Bill] Messages?
736 00:38:34,791 00:38:37,083 Let me give you our mailing address. Let me give you our mailing address.
737 00:38:37,166 00:38:38,958 We are in Hyde Park, We are in Hyde Park,
738 00:38:39,041 00:38:43,708 28 East Jackson Street, Chicago, Illinois. 60604… 28 East Jackson Street, Chicago, Illinois. 60604…
739 00:38:45,375 00:38:48,166 I don't want you guys holding any more press conferences. I don't want you guys holding any more press conferences.
740 00:38:48,250 00:38:51,958 If you're gonna get between Abbie and a camera, I'd wear pads and a helmet. If you're gonna get between Abbie and a camera, I'd wear pads and a helmet.
741 00:38:52,041 00:38:54,541 We had a good day, Len. Tell him we had a good day. We had a good day, Len. Tell him we had a good day.
742 00:38:54,625 00:38:55,458 Six and eleven. Six and eleven.
743 00:38:55,541 00:38:56,750 [Tom] What does that mean? [Tom] What does that mean?
744 00:38:56,833 00:39:00,083 - Jurors six and eleven. They're with us. - How do you know? - Jurors six and eleven. They're with us. - How do you know?
745 00:39:00,166 00:39:03,833 Six made sure I saw a copy of a James Baldwin novel under her arm, Six made sure I saw a copy of a James Baldwin novel under her arm,
746 00:39:03,916 00:39:06,375 and eleven's been nodding during the Stahl cross. and eleven's been nodding during the Stahl cross.
747 00:39:06,458 00:39:07,708 Falling asleep? Falling asleep?
748 00:39:07,791 00:39:09,583 Nodding. Agreeing. Nodding. Agreeing.
749 00:39:10,166 00:39:11,791 No more press conferences. No more press conferences.
750 00:39:11,875 00:39:13,791 [press conference playing on TV] [press conference playing on TV]
751 00:39:13,875 00:39:16,083 [Jerry] You posed that question in the form of a lie. [Jerry] You posed that question in the form of a lie.
752 00:39:16,166 00:39:19,541 Bobby Seale's lawyer is Charles Garry. He's in the hospital right now. Bobby Seale's lawyer is Charles Garry. He's in the hospital right now.
753 00:39:19,625 00:39:22,291 A motion was made for postponement and it was denied. A motion was made for postponement and it was denied.
754 00:39:22,375 00:39:24,750 [reporter] Would you have taken $100,000 to call it off? [reporter] Would you have taken $100,000 to call it off?
755 00:39:24,833 00:39:27,916 Yeah, sure. I would have taken $100,000. Yeah, sure. I would have taken $100,000.
756 00:39:28,000 00:39:29,541 As for calling it off… As for calling it off…
757 00:39:29,625 00:39:31,906 [reporter] How much is it worth to you? What's your price? [reporter] How much is it worth to you? What's your price?
758 00:39:31,958 00:39:33,375 [Abbie] To call off the revolution? [Abbie] To call off the revolution?
759 00:39:35,333 00:39:36,666 [reporter] What's your price? [reporter] What's your price?
760 00:39:38,583 00:39:39,583 My life. My life.
761 00:40:15,250 00:40:16,958 [softly] Any idea what's going on? [softly] Any idea what's going on?
762 00:40:18,458 00:40:21,333 It's been years since I've had any idea what was going on. It's been years since I've had any idea what was going on.
763 00:40:30,708 00:40:32,833 I'm going to adjourn the court for the day I'm going to adjourn the court for the day
764 00:40:32,916 00:40:35,583 and see counsel in my chambers in 15 minutes. and see counsel in my chambers in 15 minutes.
765 00:40:35,666 00:40:36,916 [bailiff] All rise. [bailiff] All rise.
766 00:40:42,416 00:40:44,708 Gentlemen, it's been brought to my attention Gentlemen, it's been brought to my attention
767 00:40:44,791 00:40:46,833 that two jurors received threatening notes that two jurors received threatening notes
768 00:40:46,916 00:40:49,875 from a member or members of the Black Panther Party. from a member or members of the Black Panther Party.
769 00:40:49,958 00:40:50,958 Which two jurors? Which two jurors?
770 00:40:51,000 00:40:53,416 Juror number six and juror number eleven. Juror number six and juror number eleven.
771 00:40:54,708 00:40:57,750 These were slipped into the mail at the homes of their parents. These were slipped into the mail at the homes of their parents.
772 00:41:00,291 00:41:01,541 Bring in juror six. Bring in juror six.
773 00:41:02,791 00:41:03,791 Six and eleven? Six and eleven?
774 00:41:05,291 00:41:07,333 - Yes. - Judge, I wonder if we could draw... - Yes. - Judge, I wonder if we could draw...
775 00:41:07,416 00:41:08,916 Juror number six, how are you? Juror number six, how are you?
776 00:41:09,708 00:41:10,708 I'm fine. I'm fine.
777 00:41:10,791 00:41:12,375 - [Bill] Before we talk... - Please. - [Bill] Before we talk... - Please.
778 00:41:12,458 00:41:15,208 Your parents received this note this morning in their mail. Your parents received this note this morning in their mail.
779 00:41:15,291 00:41:17,708 They called the police, as they should have done. They called the police, as they should have done.
780 00:41:17,791 00:41:20,291 I'd like you to take the note and read it out loud. I'd like you to take the note and read it out loud.
781 00:41:21,000 00:41:21,833 My parents? My parents?
782 00:41:21,916 00:41:24,208 - [Bill] Your Honor, before she... - Please read the note. - [Bill] Your Honor, before she... - Please read the note.
783 00:41:27,250 00:41:28,416 "We're watching you." "We're watching you."
784 00:41:29,166 00:41:31,041 [Hoffman] And you see who signed it? [Hoffman] And you see who signed it?
785 00:41:32,208 00:41:34,291 [sighs] "The Panthers." [sighs] "The Panthers."
786 00:41:34,375 00:41:37,125 You understand that to mean the Black Panthers, don't you? You understand that to mean the Black Panthers, don't you?
787 00:41:38,083 00:41:41,250 You understand defendant Bobby Seale is the head of the Black Panthers. You understand defendant Bobby Seale is the head of the Black Panthers.
788 00:41:41,333 00:41:44,250 - Judge, you can't... - He's chairman of the Black Panther Party. - Judge, you can't... - He's chairman of the Black Panther Party.
789 00:41:44,333 00:41:48,500 Do you still feel that you can render a fair and impartial verdict? Do you still feel that you can render a fair and impartial verdict?
790 00:41:50,625 00:41:51,625 [sighs] [sighs]
791 00:41:57,333 00:42:00,583 [Hoffman] Juror number six, your family has been threatened [Hoffman] Juror number six, your family has been threatened
792 00:42:00,666 00:42:02,083 and so have you… and so have you…
793 00:42:03,000 00:42:06,833 by members of an organization that is led by one of the defendants. by members of an organization that is led by one of the defendants.
794 00:42:07,416 00:42:09,750 Judge, for the love of Christ, she… Judge, for the love of Christ, she…
795 00:42:12,458 00:42:15,041 - I apologize, Your Honor. - I would think so. - I apologize, Your Honor. - I would think so.
796 00:42:15,666 00:42:19,083 Do you still feel you can render a fair and impartial verdict? Do you still feel you can render a fair and impartial verdict?
797 00:42:22,500 00:42:23,541 No, sir. No, sir.
798 00:42:24,250 00:42:27,208 You're dismissed from this jury. Thank you for your service. You're dismissed from this jury. Thank you for your service.
799 00:42:28,166 00:42:29,750 Please bring in juror number eleven. Please bring in juror number eleven.
800 00:42:29,833 00:42:32,208 - I'm sorry. - Keep reading James Baldwin. - I'm sorry. - Keep reading James Baldwin.
801 00:42:40,083 00:42:43,000 [Foran] Bill, I thought the Panthers were smarter than that. [Foran] Bill, I thought the Panthers were smarter than that.
802 00:42:43,083 00:42:44,250 - They are. - Well... - They are. - Well...
803 00:42:44,333 00:42:47,208 The Panthers don't write letters any more than the Mob does. The Panthers don't write letters any more than the Mob does.
804 00:42:47,291 00:42:49,958 The moment I find out that it was your office that did, The moment I find out that it was your office that did,
805 00:42:50,041 00:42:53,625 you'll see the criminal justice system up closer than you ever wanted to. you'll see the criminal justice system up closer than you ever wanted to.
806 00:43:07,125 00:43:09,958 - Who are the alternates? - [Jerry] We're gonna make this public. - Who are the alternates? - [Jerry] We're gonna make this public.
807 00:43:10,041 00:43:11,541 - Help yourself. - [Tom] Who are they? - Help yourself. - [Tom] Who are they?
808 00:43:11,625 00:43:14,458 Somebody other than the FBI has to investigate that letter. Somebody other than the FBI has to investigate that letter.
809 00:43:14,541 00:43:16,666 Who'd you have in mind? Jefferson Airplane? Who'd you have in mind? Jefferson Airplane?
810 00:43:17,250 00:43:19,250 - The FBI investigates. - This is bullshit. - The FBI investigates. - This is bullshit.
811 00:43:19,333 00:43:20,541 Who are the alternates? Who are the alternates?
812 00:43:20,625 00:43:22,345 - Fucking bullshit. - Clean up the language. - Fucking bullshit. - Clean up the language.
813 00:43:22,375 00:43:25,166 Kay Richards. 42-year-old dental hygienist. Kay Richards. 42-year-old dental hygienist.
814 00:43:25,250 00:43:26,458 [Tom] That doesn't sound bad. [Tom] That doesn't sound bad.
815 00:43:26,541 00:43:30,583 We think she's dating a guy named Tom Banachek, who works for Daley. We think she's dating a guy named Tom Banachek, who works for Daley.
816 00:43:30,666 00:43:33,125 [overlapping angry chatter] [overlapping angry chatter]
817 00:43:33,208 00:43:35,958 - We were out of peremptory challenges. - How did this happen? - We were out of peremptory challenges. - How did this happen?
818 00:43:36,041 00:43:38,916 It's either her or that Korean War vet It's either her or that Korean War vet
819 00:43:39,000 00:43:41,666 who kicked his son out of the house for protesting the Vietnam. who kicked his son out of the house for protesting the Vietnam.
820 00:43:41,750 00:43:43,625 You don't have to be Clarence Darrow… You don't have to be Clarence Darrow…
821 00:43:43,708 00:43:47,666 Did they manipulate the jury pool? How come there's nobody who looks like me? Did they manipulate the jury pool? How come there's nobody who looks like me?
822 00:43:47,750 00:43:52,083 All right, raise your hands if any of you have ever shown up for jury duty. All right, raise your hands if any of you have ever shown up for jury duty.
823 00:43:52,666 00:43:54,875 No? Then shut the fuck up. No? Then shut the fuck up.
824 00:43:54,958 00:43:56,333 - Bill… - Yeah? - Bill… - Yeah?
825 00:43:56,416 00:43:57,416 [Tom] What? [Tom] What?
826 00:43:58,666 00:43:59,916 He's sequestering the jury. He's sequestering the jury.
827 00:44:00,541 00:44:01,708 Of course he is. Of course he is.
828 00:44:01,791 00:44:03,250 [trash can clattering] [trash can clattering]
829 00:44:04,791 00:44:07,208 No such thing as a political trial. No such thing as a political trial.
830 00:44:07,291 00:44:08,291 Good to know. Good to know.
831 00:44:10,625 00:44:11,708 I… I…
832 00:44:11,791 00:44:16,833 I want an expert in geriatric psychiatry sitting in the gallery for a few days. I want an expert in geriatric psychiatry sitting in the gallery for a few days.
833 00:44:17,750 00:44:21,625 I want a medical evaluation of this… this judge. I want a medical evaluation of this… this judge.
834 00:44:24,625 00:44:28,083 [newscaster speaking on TV] [newscaster speaking on TV]
835 00:44:28,166 00:44:32,291 The sequester's probably a reaction to Abbie doing stand-up on weekends. The sequester's probably a reaction to Abbie doing stand-up on weekends.
836 00:44:32,375 00:44:33,583 It's not stand-up. It's not stand-up.
837 00:44:33,666 00:44:36,791 You're in a college auditorium in a spotlight telling jokes. You're in a college auditorium in a spotlight telling jokes.
838 00:44:36,875 00:44:38,500 That's a little reductive. That's a little reductive.
839 00:44:39,708 00:44:40,833 Names? Names?
840 00:44:40,916 00:44:43,083 Yeah. From yesterday. Yeah. From yesterday.
841 00:44:47,916 00:44:48,958 [John] You hungry? [John] You hungry?
842 00:44:51,125 00:44:53,291 If I hadn't asked you to help me with Sara Beth, If I hadn't asked you to help me with Sara Beth,
843 00:44:53,375 00:44:55,000 - none of this would have happened. - No. - none of this would have happened. - No.
844 00:44:55,083 00:44:58,125 I asked you to help with Sara Beth. That got us the first riot. I asked you to help with Sara Beth. That got us the first riot.
845 00:44:58,208 00:44:59,708 The first riot got us the real riot. The first riot got us the real riot.
846 00:44:59,791 00:45:01,125 - That's not... - Hang on. - That's not... - Hang on.
847 00:45:02,916 00:45:07,125 [bugle playing "Taps" on TV] [bugle playing "Taps" on TV]
848 00:45:19,750 00:45:21,833 Anyway, I'm telling stories. I always… Anyway, I'm telling stories. I always…
849 00:45:21,916 00:45:23,000 I'll add the names. I'll add the names.
850 00:45:23,833 00:45:24,833 Thank you. Thank you.
851 00:45:25,333 00:45:28,708 We move to strike the order for sequestration of the jury, We move to strike the order for sequestration of the jury,
852 00:45:28,791 00:45:31,041 which was made by Your Honor, sua sponte motion... which was made by Your Honor, sua sponte motion...
853 00:45:31,125 00:45:32,291 Hold on. Hold on.
854 00:45:34,125 00:45:36,291 Mr. Rubin, Mr. Hoffman. Mr. Rubin, Mr. Hoffman.
855 00:45:36,875 00:45:38,750 - [spectators laugh] - What are you wearing? - [spectators laugh] - What are you wearing?
856 00:45:39,333 00:45:41,875 It's an homage to you, Your Honor. It's an homage to you, Your Honor.
857 00:45:41,958 00:45:43,583 Do you have clothes underneath there? Do you have clothes underneath there?
858 00:45:44,166 00:45:46,291 Yes. Hold on. Yes. Hold on.
859 00:45:47,541 00:45:49,750 - Yes. - Take off the robes, please. - Yes. - Take off the robes, please.
860 00:45:53,166 00:45:55,208 - [all laughing] - [gavel banging] - [all laughing] - [gavel banging]
861 00:45:55,291 00:45:56,375 [Hoffman] Silence! [Hoffman] Silence!
862 00:45:56,458 00:46:00,958 Bailiff, charge Mr. Rubin and Mr. Hoffman with one count of contempt. Bailiff, charge Mr. Rubin and Mr. Hoffman with one count of contempt.
863 00:46:01,041 00:46:02,791 Mr. Kunstler, continue. Mr. Kunstler, continue.
864 00:46:04,041 00:46:05,750 We feel that sequestration, We feel that sequestration,
865 00:46:05,833 00:46:09,250 for what appears will be a considerable period of time, can only... for what appears will be a considerable period of time, can only...
866 00:46:09,333 00:46:13,458 It would be a considerably shorter period if the defense made fewer objections. It would be a considerably shorter period if the defense made fewer objections.
867 00:46:14,041 00:46:16,291 …can only serve to the defendants' disadvantage. …can only serve to the defendants' disadvantage.
868 00:46:16,375 00:46:20,333 The defense will make not one fewer objection than the prosecution The defense will make not one fewer objection than the prosecution
869 00:46:20,416 00:46:22,750 or this court gives us reason to. or this court gives us reason to.
870 00:46:22,833 00:46:28,041 Bailiff, charge Mr. Kunstler with one count of contempt. Bailiff, charge Mr. Kunstler with one count of contempt.
871 00:46:29,625 00:46:32,083 May I continue my argument so it appears in the record? May I continue my argument so it appears in the record?
872 00:46:32,166 00:46:33,375 You may continue. You may continue.
873 00:46:33,458 00:46:37,083 The jury will be in the custody of the deputy marshals. The jury will be in the custody of the deputy marshals.
874 00:46:37,166 00:46:40,458 The marshals will take care of all the needs and wants of the jury. The marshals will take care of all the needs and wants of the jury.
875 00:46:40,541 00:46:44,083 We feel that that tends to make the jurors sympathetic. We feel that that tends to make the jurors sympathetic.
876 00:46:44,166 00:46:47,125 The jury are gonna be taken care of… [fades out] The jury are gonna be taken care of… [fades out]
877 00:46:54,333 00:46:56,916 [people shouting faintly] [people shouting faintly]
878 00:47:01,000 00:47:03,291 - Paul Deluca. - And what is your occupation? - Paul Deluca. - And what is your occupation?
879 00:47:03,375 00:47:06,333 [Deluca] I'm a detective with the police department, City of Chicago. [Deluca] I'm a detective with the police department, City of Chicago.
880 00:47:06,416 00:47:10,000 Calling your attention to August of 1968 during the convention, Calling your attention to August of 1968 during the convention,
881 00:47:10,083 00:47:12,166 did you have a specific assignment? did you have a specific assignment?
882 00:47:12,250 00:47:16,708 To keep Rennie Davis under surveillance with my partner, Detective Bell. To keep Rennie Davis under surveillance with my partner, Detective Bell.
883 00:47:16,791 00:47:21,708 While you were surveilling Rennie Davis on the evening of Sunday, August 25th, While you were surveilling Rennie Davis on the evening of Sunday, August 25th,
884 00:47:21,791 00:47:23,750 the night before the convention began, the night before the convention began,
885 00:47:23,833 00:47:26,541 did you observe Tom Hayden committing a crime? did you observe Tom Hayden committing a crime?
886 00:47:26,625 00:47:30,916 Yes, Mr. Hayden was letting the air out of the tire of a police vehicle. Yes, Mr. Hayden was letting the air out of the tire of a police vehicle.
887 00:47:31,000 00:47:32,291 - [music playing] - [siren wails] - [music playing] - [siren wails]
888 00:47:32,375 00:47:36,750 [officer on loudspeaker] The park closes at 11:00 p.m. by order of the Chicago PD. [officer on loudspeaker] The park closes at 11:00 p.m. by order of the Chicago PD.
889 00:47:36,833 00:47:38,750 You must be out of the park by 11:00 p.m. You must be out of the park by 11:00 p.m.
890 00:47:39,625 00:47:42,500 Violators will be prosecuted for trespassing. Violators will be prosecuted for trespassing.
891 00:47:43,416 00:47:45,833 I repeat, you must be out of the park. I repeat, you must be out of the park.
892 00:47:45,916 00:47:48,083 ♪ Oh, oh ♪ ♪ Oh, oh ♪
893 00:47:48,166 00:47:53,541 ♪ Say you will You will be mine… ♪ ♪ Say you will You will be mine… ♪
894 00:48:00,208 00:48:03,375 It's a strategy of throwin' banana peels all over Chicago, It's a strategy of throwin' banana peels all over Chicago,
895 00:48:03,916 00:48:05,375 and the machine will stumble. and the machine will stumble.
896 00:48:05,458 00:48:08,583 When it stumbles, it goes into a policy of overkill When it stumbles, it goes into a policy of overkill
897 00:48:08,666 00:48:10,791 and it starts to devour itself. and it starts to devour itself.
898 00:48:11,708 00:48:13,041 We gotta convince 'em. We gotta convince 'em.
899 00:48:13,125 00:48:17,291 We gotta convince 'em of what? That we're crazy enough to do anything. We gotta convince 'em of what? That we're crazy enough to do anything.
900 00:48:17,375 00:48:19,833 ♪ Oh, my only one ♪ ♪ Oh, my only one ♪
901 00:48:21,583 00:48:24,125 [vocalizing] [vocalizing]
902 00:48:24,208 00:48:26,125 ♪ I thought I was dreaming ♪ ♪ I thought I was dreaming ♪
903 00:48:26,208 00:48:27,750 We think it's important We think it's important
904 00:48:27,833 00:48:30,750 for confrontational tactical knowledge to be understood. for confrontational tactical knowledge to be understood.
905 00:48:30,833 00:48:31,916 [man] You know it! [man] You know it!
906 00:48:32,000 00:48:34,458 [Jerry] Right, confrontational tactics make us safer. [Jerry] Right, confrontational tactics make us safer.
907 00:48:34,541 00:48:35,375 - Yeah. - Right. - Yeah. - Right.
908 00:48:35,458 00:48:37,583 [Jerry] Why? Because the pigs become afraid. [Jerry] Why? Because the pigs become afraid.
909 00:48:38,375 00:48:41,375 You know, and that's fighting fire with what? You know, and that's fighting fire with what?
910 00:48:41,458 00:48:42,500 [all] Fire! [all] Fire!
911 00:48:42,583 00:48:45,708 You don't fight fire with fire. You fight it with water, jackass. You don't fight fire with fire. You fight it with water, jackass.
912 00:48:45,791 00:48:48,541 - It's a metaphor. - Abbie and his fuckin' banana peels? - It's a metaphor. - Abbie and his fuckin' banana peels?
913 00:48:48,625 00:48:49,625 Also a metaphor. Also a metaphor.
914 00:48:49,708 00:48:52,000 Between the cops, the state police and the Guard, Between the cops, the state police and the Guard,
915 00:48:52,083 00:48:56,125 Daley's got 15,000 soldiers whose guns are loaded with bullets that are literal. Daley's got 15,000 soldiers whose guns are loaded with bullets that are literal.
916 00:48:56,208 00:48:59,791 - I could argue that the bullets are also... - Yeah, so could I, but don't. - I could argue that the bullets are also... - Yeah, so could I, but don't.
917 00:49:00,416 00:49:03,583 The atmosphere's getting dangerous and someone's gonna throw a rock. The atmosphere's getting dangerous and someone's gonna throw a rock.
918 00:49:03,666 00:49:06,458 I wanna get the word out we're protesting the war and not the cops. I wanna get the word out we're protesting the war and not the cops.
919 00:49:06,541 00:49:08,250 - Damn it! - What? - Damn it! - What?
920 00:49:09,041 00:49:10,208 I think those are my guys. I think those are my guys.
921 00:49:11,125 00:49:12,458 I think that's their car. I think that's their car.
922 00:49:14,041 00:49:17,666 Yep, that's them. They're back. They were following me all day. Yep, that's them. They're back. They were following me all day.
923 00:49:18,625 00:49:21,750 Listen, here's the thing I haven't told you about Sara Beth. Listen, here's the thing I haven't told you about Sara Beth.
924 00:49:21,833 00:49:23,916 - She isn't into this at all. - Isn't into what? - She isn't into this at all. - Isn't into what?
925 00:49:24,000 00:49:26,666 When I'm with her and her family, I try to… When I'm with her and her family, I try to…
926 00:49:27,250 00:49:29,625 I de-emphasize the… I de-emphasize the…
927 00:49:30,583 00:49:32,958 - radical revolutionary part of my... - Got it. - radical revolutionary part of my... - Got it.
928 00:49:33,041 00:49:34,875 Her parents are letting me stay with them. Her parents are letting me stay with them.
929 00:49:34,958 00:49:37,666 If I show up tailed by two undercover police officers... If I show up tailed by two undercover police officers...
930 00:49:37,750 00:49:40,333 - That'll be hard to explain. - This isn't her world. - That'll be hard to explain. - This isn't her world.
931 00:49:40,416 00:49:42,833 It's definitely not her parents' world. It's definitely not her parents' world.
932 00:49:42,916 00:49:47,041 - If I bring my world into their driveway... - You could be in a healthier relationship. - If I bring my world into their driveway... - You could be in a healthier relationship.
933 00:49:47,125 00:49:50,833 I know, but until then, it's the one I got. I know, but until then, it's the one I got.
934 00:49:51,416 00:49:53,416 - So that's their car? - [Rennie] Yep. - So that's their car? - [Rennie] Yep.
935 00:49:55,125 00:49:57,291 - [Tom] Where are they? - Looking for me. - [Tom] Where are they? - Looking for me.
936 00:49:58,208 00:50:01,000 All right, go back into the crowd and let 'em find you. All right, go back into the crowd and let 'em find you.
937 00:50:01,625 00:50:04,083 And then leave the park by the east exit. And then leave the park by the east exit.
938 00:50:04,166 00:50:06,958 - They'll need their car to follow you. - What are you gonna do? - They'll need their car to follow you. - What are you gonna do?
939 00:50:07,041 00:50:10,541 It won't remind anyone of Gandhi, but a little civil disobedience. Go. It won't remind anyone of Gandhi, but a little civil disobedience. Go.
940 00:50:10,625 00:50:14,000 - You're not gonna cut the brakes... - I'll let the air out of a tire. Go. - You're not gonna cut the brakes... - I'll let the air out of a tire. Go.
941 00:50:14,083 00:50:17,375 [sighs] I appreciate it. I don't wanna be a phony with Sara... [sighs] I appreciate it. I don't wanna be a phony with Sara...
942 00:50:17,458 00:50:20,333 - You're welcome. You should really go now. - Yep. - You're welcome. You should really go now. - Yep.
943 00:50:22,208 00:50:26,083 Detective Bell and I spotted Rennie Davis walking in the crowd, Detective Bell and I spotted Rennie Davis walking in the crowd,
944 00:50:26,166 00:50:28,666 and we observed him on foot for a few minutes. and we observed him on foot for a few minutes.
945 00:50:28,750 00:50:30,083 Then we returned to the unit. Then we returned to the unit.
946 00:50:30,166 00:50:31,916 - Your car? - Yes. - Your car? - Yes.
947 00:50:32,000 00:50:33,083 What did you find? What did you find?
948 00:50:33,166 00:50:35,958 [air hissing] [air hissing]
949 00:50:36,041 00:50:38,458 - [Deluca] Don't fuckin' move. - [Bell] On your feet. - [Deluca] Don't fuckin' move. - [Bell] On your feet.
950 00:50:38,541 00:50:40,708 Those are two contradictory instructions... Those are two contradictory instructions...
951 00:50:42,291 00:50:44,041 All right, hands behind your head. All right, hands behind your head.
952 00:50:44,583 00:50:45,833 Spread your legs. Spread your legs.
953 00:50:46,458 00:50:49,708 - Was that a contradictory instruction? - No. - Was that a contradictory instruction? - No.
954 00:50:49,791 00:50:52,208 - What happened then? - Someone from the crowd shouted… - What happened then? - Someone from the crowd shouted…
955 00:50:52,291 00:50:55,958 - [woman] They're hassling Tom Hayden! - Paulie, you need to see what I'm seeing. - [woman] They're hassling Tom Hayden! - Paulie, you need to see what I'm seeing.
956 00:50:58,166 00:51:02,208 - [Deluca] Hey! Stay back there! All of ya! - [Bell] Police! Stay back! - [Deluca] Hey! Stay back there! All of ya! - [Bell] Police! Stay back!
957 00:51:02,291 00:51:06,000 - Listen, everybody stay cool. - Shut up. All right, tell 'em to get back. - Listen, everybody stay cool. - Shut up. All right, tell 'em to get back.
958 00:51:06,083 00:51:08,541 - Again, that's a contradict... - Tell 'em to get back. - Again, that's a contradict... - Tell 'em to get back.
959 00:51:08,625 00:51:10,791 Did he tell the crowd to back down? Did he tell the crowd to back down?
960 00:51:10,875 00:51:13,666 Everybody get back. I'm all right. Stay cool. Everybody get back. I'm all right. Stay cool.
961 00:51:13,750 00:51:15,083 He was egging them on. He was egging them on.
962 00:51:15,166 00:51:17,541 Did you take Mr. Hayden under arrest at that moment? Did you take Mr. Hayden under arrest at that moment?
963 00:51:17,625 00:51:19,291 - No, sir. - Why not? - No, sir. - Why not?
964 00:51:19,875 00:51:23,000 - Who's shinin' that? - Paulie, it's a camera. It's a TV camera. - Who's shinin' that? - Paulie, it's a camera. It's a TV camera.
965 00:51:23,875 00:51:25,916 We wanted to defuse the situation, We wanted to defuse the situation,
966 00:51:26,000 00:51:29,250 so we arranged to take Mr. Hayden in the next morning. so we arranged to take Mr. Hayden in the next morning.
967 00:51:32,250 00:51:33,458 This is gonna be for me. This is gonna be for me.
968 00:51:33,541 00:51:35,166 Let me try to explain to them. Let me try to explain to them.
969 00:51:35,250 00:51:37,208 Tell 'em about Sara Beth's parents. Tell 'em about Sara Beth's parents.
970 00:51:37,291 00:51:38,750 - Yeah. - I was kidding. - Yeah. - I was kidding.
971 00:51:38,833 00:51:41,208 Just bail me out and keep to the schedule. It's fine. Just bail me out and keep to the schedule. It's fine.
972 00:51:41,291 00:51:42,958 - Tom Hayden? - Yeah. - Tom Hayden? - Yeah.
973 00:51:43,041 00:51:44,791 - See you in a bit. - You're under arrest. - See you in a bit. - You're under arrest.
974 00:51:44,875 00:51:45,875 Got it. Got it.
975 00:51:47,166 00:51:50,333 We'll stand in recess for one hour, and court will resume at 1:30... We'll stand in recess for one hour, and court will resume at 1:30...
976 00:51:50,416 00:51:53,166 Your Honor, I have a motion I'd like to bring forward. Your Honor, I have a motion I'd like to bring forward.
977 00:51:53,250 00:51:56,208 You wish to address the court, Mr. Seale? You wish to address the court, Mr. Seale?
978 00:51:56,291 00:51:59,833 - Yes. I have a motion... - I will hear you, Mr. Seale. - Yes. I have a motion... - I will hear you, Mr. Seale.
979 00:52:01,875 00:52:02,875 Just a moment. Just a moment.
980 00:52:03,250 00:52:05,500 Mr. Seale, do you have a motion? Mr. Seale, do you have a motion?
981 00:52:05,583 00:52:09,333 "I, Bobby G. Seale, have a motion pro se to defend myself." "I, Bobby G. Seale, have a motion pro se to defend myself."
982 00:52:09,416 00:52:12,833 "I'd like to invoke the precedent of Adams v. US ex rel. McCann, "I'd like to invoke the precedent of Adams v. US ex rel. McCann,
983 00:52:12,916 00:52:14,500 where the Supreme Court is..." where the Supreme Court is..."
984 00:52:14,583 00:52:17,458 That's enough. Where are you learning these things? That's enough. Where are you learning these things?
985 00:52:17,541 00:52:20,958 Does your young friend Mr. Hampton have a background in law? Does your young friend Mr. Hampton have a background in law?
986 00:52:21,041 00:52:24,541 Your Honor, the other defendants would like to join in Mr. Seale's motion. Your Honor, the other defendants would like to join in Mr. Seale's motion.
987 00:52:24,625 00:52:26,708 Are you now speaking on behalf of Mr. Seale? Are you now speaking on behalf of Mr. Seale?
988 00:52:26,791 00:52:30,583 No, Your Honor, I'm speaking on behalf of the other defendants. No, Your Honor, I'm speaking on behalf of the other defendants.
989 00:52:30,666 00:52:33,416 You're right next to him. Why don't you represent him? You're right next to him. Why don't you represent him?
990 00:52:33,500 00:52:36,083 Because I'm not his lawyer, sir. Because I'm not his lawyer, sir.
991 00:52:36,166 00:52:39,583 And if I understand Mr. Seale, this last month and a half, And if I understand Mr. Seale, this last month and a half,
992 00:52:39,666 00:52:43,833 and I believe I have, he is not represented by counsel. and I believe I have, he is not represented by counsel.
993 00:52:43,916 00:52:44,750 Overruled. Overruled.
994 00:52:44,833 00:52:46,791 - I am being denied right now… - Mr. Seale… - I am being denied right now… - Mr. Seale…
995 00:52:46,875 00:52:50,625 …my constitutional right for legal representation... …my constitutional right for legal representation...
996 00:52:50,708 00:52:52,125 Will you be quiet! Will you be quiet!
997 00:52:53,750 00:52:56,208 You have lawyers to speak for you. You have lawyers to speak for you.
998 00:52:56,291 00:52:58,083 [shouting] No, he doesn't! [shouting] No, he doesn't!
999 00:53:13,458 00:53:17,625 Cite Mr. Kunstler with his second count of contempt. Cite Mr. Kunstler with his second count of contempt.
1000 00:53:17,708 00:53:18,875 [bailiff] All rise. [bailiff] All rise.
1001 00:53:24,416 00:53:26,041 [crowd laughing] [crowd laughing]
1002 00:53:26,125 00:53:30,041 [Abbie] So, Hayden's in a holding cell on a tire pressure-related charge, [Abbie] So, Hayden's in a holding cell on a tire pressure-related charge,
1003 00:53:30,125 00:53:33,208 and suddenly, every freak in Chicago is mobilized. and suddenly, every freak in Chicago is mobilized.
1004 00:53:33,291 00:53:35,083 "They got Hayden!" "They got Hayden!"
1005 00:53:35,166 00:53:38,083 "We gotta march down to the police station, "We gotta march down to the police station,
1006 00:53:38,166 00:53:41,125 overcome the cops and the Illinois National Guard overcome the cops and the Illinois National Guard
1007 00:53:41,208 00:53:43,000 and free Tom Hayden!" and free Tom Hayden!"
1008 00:53:43,083 00:53:44,250 [crowd laughing] [crowd laughing]
1009 00:53:44,333 00:53:46,041 We couldn't find our way out of the park. We couldn't find our way out of the park.
1010 00:53:46,125 00:53:48,208 [crowd laughing] [crowd laughing]
1011 00:53:48,291 00:53:53,333 Now, over the course of ten days, the government called 37 witnesses, Now, over the course of ten days, the government called 37 witnesses,
1012 00:53:53,416 00:53:57,125 each and every one of them an employee of the government. each and every one of them an employee of the government.
1013 00:53:57,750 00:54:01,375 I call this portion of the trial "with friends like these." I call this portion of the trial "with friends like these."
1014 00:54:01,458 00:54:03,541 Rennie, this is Sam. He can be trusted. Rennie, this is Sam. He can be trusted.
1015 00:54:04,208 00:54:06,708 Detective Sam McGiven, Chicago Police Department. Detective Sam McGiven, Chicago Police Department.
1016 00:54:06,791 00:54:08,416 - Abbie, this is Stan. - Oh, hey. - Abbie, this is Stan. - Oh, hey.
1017 00:54:08,500 00:54:10,416 - Stan Wojohowski. - How you doin', Stan? - Stan Wojohowski. - How you doin', Stan?
1018 00:54:10,500 00:54:13,708 - What is your occupation? - I'm a Chicago police officer. - What is your occupation? - I'm a Chicago police officer.
1019 00:54:13,791 00:54:15,000 Scotty Scibelli, Tom. Scotty Scibelli, Tom.
1020 00:54:15,083 00:54:18,041 I'm your guy for ass, weed or whatever you need. I'm your guy for ass, weed or whatever you need.
1021 00:54:18,125 00:54:21,125 Staff Sergeant Scott Scibelli, Illinois State Police. Staff Sergeant Scott Scibelli, Illinois State Police.
1022 00:54:22,583 00:54:25,958 - [billiard balls clacking] - [jazz music playing] - [billiard balls clacking] - [jazz music playing]
1023 00:54:27,166 00:54:29,083 It's from the woman in the glasses. It's from the woman in the glasses.
1024 00:54:32,333 00:54:33,875 - Really? - Yeah. - Really? - Yeah.
1025 00:54:43,916 00:54:46,208 Hey, uh, did you mean this for me? Hey, uh, did you mean this for me?
1026 00:54:46,291 00:54:48,625 - I did. - Nobody's ever sent me a drink before. - I did. - Nobody's ever sent me a drink before.
1027 00:54:48,708 00:54:51,250 - How do you like it so far? - It's a Tom Collins. - How do you like it so far? - It's a Tom Collins.
1028 00:54:51,333 00:54:54,208 I know it's a country club drink, but they're delicious. I know it's a country club drink, but they're delicious.
1029 00:54:54,291 00:54:59,000 A man in England named Tom Collins claimed in 1894 to have invented it, A man in England named Tom Collins claimed in 1894 to have invented it,
1030 00:54:59,083 00:55:01,916 but then another man, whose name I've forgotten, said no, but then another man, whose name I've forgotten, said no,
1031 00:55:02,000 00:55:05,708 he'd invented it two years earlier, and I think there was a lawsuit. he'd invented it two years earlier, and I think there was a lawsuit.
1032 00:55:05,791 00:55:08,750 That's a surprising amount of controversy for gin and lemonade. That's a surprising amount of controversy for gin and lemonade.
1033 00:55:09,333 00:55:10,583 - I'm Jerry. - I know. - I'm Jerry. - I know.
1034 00:55:11,416 00:55:15,541 Jerry, do you know why the French only eat one egg for breakfast? Jerry, do you know why the French only eat one egg for breakfast?
1035 00:55:15,625 00:55:17,583 - No. - Because in France, - No. - Because in France,
1036 00:55:17,666 00:55:20,291 one egg… is un oeuf. one egg… is un oeuf.
1037 00:55:22,416 00:55:23,666 It's un oeuf. It's un oeuf.
1038 00:55:24,333 00:55:26,958 - [chuckles] Wow! - I know! - [chuckles] Wow! - I know!
1039 00:55:27,041 00:55:29,458 I feel so much better about my Tom Collins story. I feel so much better about my Tom Collins story.
1040 00:55:29,541 00:55:30,541 [chuckles] [chuckles]
1041 00:55:31,166 00:55:32,208 I'm Daphne O'Connor. I'm Daphne O'Connor.
1042 00:55:32,291 00:55:35,958 Special Agent Daphne O'Connor, FBI Counterintelligence. Special Agent Daphne O'Connor, FBI Counterintelligence.
1043 00:55:36,041 00:55:37,208 [Schultz] Spell your name. [Schultz] Spell your name.
1044 00:55:37,291 00:55:40,916 Think it's possible there were seven demonstrators in Chicago last summer Think it's possible there were seven demonstrators in Chicago last summer
1045 00:55:41,000 00:55:43,625 leading 10,000 undercover cops in protest? leading 10,000 undercover cops in protest?
1046 00:55:43,708 00:55:45,166 What was your assignment in Chicago? What was your assignment in Chicago?
1047 00:55:45,250 00:55:48,458 To use Jerry Rubin to infiltrate the leaders of the protest. To use Jerry Rubin to infiltrate the leaders of the protest.
1048 00:55:48,541 00:55:52,291 And you were with Jerry Rubin, Abbie Hoffman, Dave Dellinger And you were with Jerry Rubin, Abbie Hoffman, Dave Dellinger
1049 00:55:52,375 00:55:55,458 and Rennie Davis on the afternoon of the 27th? and Rennie Davis on the afternoon of the 27th?
1050 00:55:55,541 00:55:56,375 Yes. Yes.
1051 00:55:56,458 00:55:59,791 - What were they doing together? - They were leading a group of protesters. - What were they doing together? - They were leading a group of protesters.
1052 00:55:59,875 00:56:01,833 - How many, would you say? - About 800. - How many, would you say? - About 800.
1053 00:56:01,916 00:56:03,708 Where were they leading these 800 people? Where were they leading these 800 people?
1054 00:56:03,791 00:56:06,708 - To police headquarters at 11th and State. - Why? - To police headquarters at 11th and State. - Why?
1055 00:56:06,791 00:56:10,708 Tom Hayden was being held there on charges of tampering with a police vehicle. Tom Hayden was being held there on charges of tampering with a police vehicle.
1056 00:56:10,791 00:56:13,458 Jerry Rubin said it was time to "confront the pigs." Jerry Rubin said it was time to "confront the pigs."
1057 00:56:14,125 00:56:16,041 And by "pigs," he meant… And by "pigs," he meant…
1058 00:56:16,125 00:56:18,333 It was time to confront the police. It was time to confront the police.
1059 00:56:18,416 00:56:21,208 [indistinct radio chatter] [indistinct radio chatter]
1060 00:56:21,291 00:56:22,958 [man] Follow Abbie! [man] Follow Abbie!
1061 00:56:23,625 00:56:25,500 [David] Marshals, we're on the move. [David] Marshals, we're on the move.
1062 00:56:29,333 00:56:33,125 I remember also at the front of the group was Mr. Allen Ginsberg. I remember also at the front of the group was Mr. Allen Ginsberg.
1063 00:56:33,208 00:56:34,833 Allen Ginsberg, the poet? Allen Ginsberg, the poet?
1064 00:56:34,916 00:56:37,708 Yes, he was chanting a kind of war chant. Yes, he was chanting a kind of war chant.
1065 00:56:37,791 00:56:41,000 - [Ginsberg chanting] Om. - [Jerry] What's he doing? - [Ginsberg chanting] Om. - [Jerry] What's he doing?
1066 00:56:41,083 00:56:43,166 He's channeling the energy. Settling things down. He's channeling the energy. Settling things down.
1067 00:56:43,250 00:56:44,625 And how's that workin' so far? And how's that workin' so far?
1068 00:56:44,708 00:56:47,625 - [woman] Our streets! - [all] Our streets! - [woman] Our streets! - [all] Our streets!
1069 00:56:47,708 00:56:51,666 - [woman] Our streets! - [all] Our streets! - [woman] Our streets! - [all] Our streets!
1070 00:56:51,750 00:56:56,500 The guy testified that Ginsberg was letting out a war chant, The guy testified that Ginsberg was letting out a war chant,
1071 00:56:56,583 00:57:00,458 some kinda fucking jungle signal to Beat poets, some kinda fucking jungle signal to Beat poets,
1072 00:57:00,541 00:57:04,291 that they should begin pelting the troops with blank verse. that they should begin pelting the troops with blank verse.
1073 00:57:04,375 00:57:06,333 [crowd laughs] [crowd laughs]
1074 00:57:06,416 00:57:09,875 So, a guy in the crowd is marching with a girl on his shoulders. So, a guy in the crowd is marching with a girl on his shoulders.
1075 00:57:09,958 00:57:12,416 She's waving an American flag, She's waving an American flag,
1076 00:57:12,500 00:57:16,125 and this seems to really be bothering some frat brothers and this seems to really be bothering some frat brothers
1077 00:57:16,208 00:57:18,916 who'd come to town in the spirit of fraternity. who'd come to town in the spirit of fraternity.
1078 00:57:19,000 00:57:22,333 - [frat boy 1] Put down the flag! - [frat boy 2] Hey, put the flag down! - [frat boy 1] Put down the flag! - [frat boy 2] Hey, put the flag down!
1079 00:57:22,416 00:57:25,416 Can you hear us? Are you fucking deaf, you bitch? Can you hear us? Are you fucking deaf, you bitch?
1080 00:57:25,500 00:57:29,583 - Put the flag down! - Go to the kitchen and make me a sandwich! - Put the flag down! - Go to the kitchen and make me a sandwich!
1081 00:57:29,666 00:57:31,875 I'm gonna go back there and take care of that. I'm gonna go back there and take care of that.
1082 00:57:31,958 00:57:33,250 They are not the enemy. They are not the enemy.
1083 00:57:33,333 00:57:35,083 In so many fuckin' ways, they are. In so many fuckin' ways, they are.
1084 00:57:37,541 00:57:42,000 [all chanting] Free Tom Hayden! Free Tom Hayden! [all chanting] Free Tom Hayden! Free Tom Hayden!
1085 00:57:45,708 00:57:47,916 The group turned left on 11th Street. The group turned left on 11th Street.
1086 00:57:48,000 00:57:49,916 We make a left on 11th Street. We make a left on 11th Street.
1087 00:57:50,000 00:57:51,083 That's when they saw it. That's when they saw it.
1088 00:57:51,166 00:57:55,708 [all chanting] Free Tom Hayden! [all chanting] Free Tom Hayden!
1089 00:57:55,791 00:57:58,583 [all chanting] Free Tom Hayden! [all chanting] Free Tom Hayden!
1090 00:57:58,666 00:58:00,958 [all chanting] Free Tom Hayden! [all chanting] Free Tom Hayden!
1091 00:58:01,041 00:58:02,500 Holy shit! [chuckles] Holy shit! [chuckles]
1092 00:58:02,583 00:58:04,500 [protesters continue chanting] [protesters continue chanting]
1093 00:58:04,583 00:58:06,875 [protesters continue chanting] [protesters continue chanting]
1094 00:58:06,958 00:58:08,666 Are they about to conquer Spain? Are they about to conquer Spain?
1095 00:58:08,750 00:58:10,750 [chanting continues] [chanting continues]
1096 00:58:10,833 00:58:13,625 [protesters] Free Tom Hayden! [protesters] Free Tom Hayden!
1097 00:58:13,708 00:58:14,708 Fuck it. Fuck it.
1098 00:58:15,375 00:58:18,333 - What do you mean, "Fuck it"? - This is it. It's time. - What do you mean, "Fuck it"? - This is it. It's time.
1099 00:58:19,041 00:58:21,875 - We're not rushing the police. - Why the fuck not? - We're not rushing the police. - Why the fuck not?
1100 00:58:21,958 00:58:25,125 - We'll be critically injured. - Tom doesn't want anyone hurt. - We'll be critically injured. - Tom doesn't want anyone hurt.
1101 00:58:25,208 00:58:27,375 Turn this crowd around. There's too much momentum. Turn this crowd around. There's too much momentum.
1102 00:58:27,458 00:58:30,166 - Turn 'em around and calm them down. - What are we doin'? - Turn 'em around and calm them down. - What are we doin'?
1103 00:58:30,250 00:58:33,416 He's right. This is not safe. I know something about this. Come on. He's right. This is not safe. I know something about this. Come on.
1104 00:58:33,500 00:58:35,458 Marshals, turn 'em around and slow 'em down. Marshals, turn 'em around and slow 'em down.
1105 00:58:35,541 00:58:38,000 Looks like the Alamo back here. Turn 'em around. Looks like the Alamo back here. Turn 'em around.
1106 00:58:38,083 00:58:40,875 - Bring 'em safely to the park. - We should be marching up to them. - Bring 'em safely to the park. - We should be marching up to them.
1107 00:58:40,958 00:58:43,000 I don't think they'll surrender, man. I don't think they'll surrender, man.
1108 00:58:43,583 00:58:47,291 Keep 'em movin'. Dave and I are gonna stay and make Tom's bail. Keep 'em movin'. Dave and I are gonna stay and make Tom's bail.
1109 00:58:47,375 00:58:48,583 Back to the park! Back to the park!
1110 00:58:49,666 00:58:51,541 I don't carry money, do you? I don't carry money, do you?
1111 00:58:52,208 00:58:54,500 I do. I'm a grown man. I do. I'm a grown man.
1112 00:58:54,583 00:58:55,916 [Ginsberg chanting] Om. [Ginsberg chanting] Om.
1113 00:58:56,000 00:58:58,416 You're killin' me, Allen. You're goddamn killing me! You're killin' me, Allen. You're goddamn killing me!
1114 00:58:58,500 00:59:01,000 The marshals are spreading word that we gotta keep moving. The marshals are spreading word that we gotta keep moving.
1115 00:59:01,083 00:59:03,625 "Go left on Roosevelt and back in the park," right? "Go left on Roosevelt and back in the park," right?
1116 00:59:03,708 00:59:05,000 When they got to the park, When they got to the park,
1117 00:59:05,083 00:59:08,000 three divisions of police officers had moved in from the south. three divisions of police officers had moved in from the south.
1118 00:59:08,083 00:59:11,125 [police siren wails] [police siren wails]
1119 00:59:18,625 00:59:21,125 [indistinct shouting] [indistinct shouting]
1120 00:59:27,708 00:59:31,041 I don't know what tactical genius came up with that, I don't know what tactical genius came up with that,
1121 00:59:31,125 00:59:32,791 but you know when shit happens? but you know when shit happens?
1122 00:59:32,875 00:59:36,000 When you don't give protesters a place to go. When you don't give protesters a place to go.
1123 00:59:36,083 00:59:38,375 How would you characterize the mood of the crowd? How would you characterize the mood of the crowd?
1124 00:59:38,458 00:59:42,750 The witness is in no position to characterize the mood of 1,000 strangers. The witness is in no position to characterize the mood of 1,000 strangers.
1125 00:59:42,833 00:59:44,208 Do you have an objection? Do you have an objection?
1126 00:59:44,291 00:59:46,166 - Yes, sir. - On what grounds? - Yes, sir. - On what grounds?
1127 00:59:46,250 00:59:47,250 On those grounds. On those grounds.
1128 00:59:47,833 00:59:49,250 [spectators] Overruled. [spectators] Overruled.
1129 00:59:49,333 00:59:51,291 I will clear this courtroom. I will clear this courtroom.
1130 00:59:52,666 00:59:53,833 Mr. Wojohowski? Mr. Wojohowski?
1131 00:59:53,916 00:59:55,333 The crowd was looking for a fight. The crowd was looking for a fight.
1132 00:59:55,416 00:59:58,500 You're pigs! Your children are pigs! You're pigs! Your children are pigs!
1133 00:59:58,583 01:00:00,791 No, we should leave their children out of it. No, we should leave their children out of it.
1134 01:00:00,875 01:00:02,291 You're right. I know. You're right. I know.
1135 01:00:02,375 01:00:04,916 "White honky MFers, get out of our park." "White honky MFers, get out of our park."
1136 01:00:05,000 01:00:06,375 And then he said, "Look at 'em." And then he said, "Look at 'em."
1137 01:00:06,458 01:00:07,875 They don't look so tough. They don't look so tough.
1138 01:00:08,541 01:00:10,458 Well, the guns… Well, the guns…
1139 01:00:10,541 01:00:12,791 There are no permits for this demonstration. There are no permits for this demonstration.
1140 01:00:12,875 01:00:14,833 You're ordered to leave the park, immediately! You're ordered to leave the park, immediately!
1141 01:00:14,916 01:00:17,333 Put down your guns, motherfuckers! Put down your guns, motherfuckers!
1142 01:00:17,416 01:00:18,958 Fight like fuckin' men! Fight like fuckin' men!
1143 01:00:19,041 01:00:21,625 Just so you know, I do not have your back on that. Just so you know, I do not have your back on that.
1144 01:00:21,708 01:00:26,250 And the guys from Kappa Gamma Douchebag, who were hassling the girl? And the guys from Kappa Gamma Douchebag, who were hassling the girl?
1145 01:00:26,333 01:00:28,041 - [crowd chuckles] - They're back. - [crowd chuckles] - They're back.
1146 01:00:28,125 01:00:30,916 Put down the goddamn flag, you cunt! Put down the goddamn flag, you cunt!
1147 01:00:31,000 01:00:32,916 - Go make me a sandwich! - Put it down! - Go make me a sandwich! - Put it down!
1148 01:00:33,000 01:00:34,875 - Put the flag down! - [Daphne] Calm down! - Put the flag down! - [Daphne] Calm down!
1149 01:00:34,958 01:00:37,416 - [overlapping shouts] - Help me calm 'em down, Jerry! - [overlapping shouts] - Help me calm 'em down, Jerry!
1150 01:00:37,500 01:00:40,250 Baby, defuse the situation. They will listen to you. Baby, defuse the situation. They will listen to you.
1151 01:00:40,333 01:00:42,000 - Huh. - What? - Huh. - What?
1152 01:00:42,083 01:00:44,333 Nothing, that sounded nice when you said it. Nothing, that sounded nice when you said it.
1153 01:00:44,416 01:00:45,583 - Right now! - Yeah. - Right now! - Yeah.
1154 01:00:45,666 01:00:48,916 - Someone from the crowd shouts… - A guy in the crowd shouts… - Someone from the crowd shouts… - A guy in the crowd shouts…
1155 01:00:49,000 01:00:50,875 Someone in the crowd shouted… Someone in the crowd shouted…
1156 01:00:50,958 01:00:52,125 Take the hill! Take the hill!
1157 01:00:52,208 01:00:56,291 Hey! Stop running! Hey, everybody! Hey! Stop running! Hey, everybody!
1158 01:00:56,375 01:00:59,625 The street name for chloroacetophenone is tear gas. The street name for chloroacetophenone is tear gas.
1159 01:00:59,708 01:01:00,708 Fire! Fire!
1160 01:01:01,625 01:01:04,208 [Abbie] And it's a fuckin' blowtorch. [Abbie] And it's a fuckin' blowtorch.
1161 01:01:04,291 01:01:06,708 Your lungs, your skin, your eyes… Your lungs, your skin, your eyes…
1162 01:01:06,791 01:01:08,333 - [man] Go, go! - Riot clubs? - [man] Go, go! - Riot clubs?
1163 01:01:08,416 01:01:11,208 They're made out of the same wood they use for baseball bats. They're made out of the same wood they use for baseball bats.
1164 01:01:11,291 01:01:13,166 [overlapping clamor] [overlapping clamor]
1165 01:01:30,958 01:01:33,208 [woman screams] Let me go! [woman screams] Let me go!
1166 01:01:38,916 01:01:42,166 [coughing] [coughing]
1167 01:01:42,250 01:01:43,666 - Put the flag down! - [screaming] - Put the flag down! - [screaming]
1168 01:01:48,333 01:01:50,875 - Hey! - [frat boy] You shut your fuckin' mouth! - Hey! - [frat boy] You shut your fuckin' mouth!
1169 01:01:50,958 01:01:52,625 - What are you doing? - [woman screaming] - What are you doing? - [woman screaming]
1170 01:01:52,708 01:01:54,250 [frat boy] You got this coming! [frat boy] You got this coming!
1171 01:01:54,333 01:01:57,875 What the fuck is wrong with you? Hey! Hey, get the fuck off of her! What the fuck is wrong with you? Hey! Hey, get the fuck off of her!
1172 01:01:57,958 01:01:59,250 What's the matter with you? What's the matter with you?
1173 01:01:59,333 01:02:00,541 Fuck you, hippie faggot! Fuck you, hippie faggot!
1174 01:02:00,625 01:02:02,541 [grunting] [grunting]
1175 01:02:03,208 01:02:04,583 You're all right. You're all right.
1176 01:02:04,666 01:02:06,625 - You're okay. Here. - [coughing] - You're okay. Here. - [coughing]
1177 01:02:06,708 01:02:09,750 You gotta just hold this over your face, okay? You gotta just hold this over your face, okay?
1178 01:02:09,833 01:02:12,041 I'm gonna take you to the first-aid station. I'm gonna take you to the first-aid station.
1179 01:02:12,125 01:02:13,583 You're all right. I got you. You're all right. I got you.
1180 01:02:13,666 01:02:16,166 We have to go. Okay, I'm gonna get you out of here. We have to go. Okay, I'm gonna get you out of here.
1181 01:02:16,250 01:02:17,500 - [gun cocks] - I'm gonna… - [gun cocks] - I'm gonna…
1182 01:02:20,083 01:02:21,625 [officer] Don't move, Jerry. [officer] Don't move, Jerry.
1183 01:02:21,708 01:02:24,416 - Man, get those guys. They were... - You're under arrest. - Man, get those guys. They were... - You're under arrest.
1184 01:02:25,583 01:02:29,541 [man over PA] Everybody gather in the center of the park… [man over PA] Everybody gather in the center of the park…
1185 01:02:30,083 01:02:31,958 After bailing out Tom Hayden, After bailing out Tom Hayden,
1186 01:02:32,041 01:02:36,375 Abbie, Dave and Tom returned to the park. Is that correct? Abbie, Dave and Tom returned to the park. Is that correct?
1187 01:02:36,458 01:02:38,916 [ambulance siren wailing] [ambulance siren wailing]
1188 01:02:42,708 01:02:44,583 [man] Sir, can you look at me? Sir? [man] Sir, can you look at me? Sir?
1189 01:02:44,666 01:02:45,875 [grunts] [grunts]
1190 01:02:50,500 01:02:51,500 [officer] Get in. [officer] Get in.
1191 01:02:55,750 01:02:57,041 I'll be honest. I'll be honest.
1192 01:02:57,125 01:03:00,000 I was starting to worry about getting everyone out of Chicago alive. I was starting to worry about getting everyone out of Chicago alive.
1193 01:03:00,083 01:03:02,500 - That's not really up to us. - Yeah, it is. - That's not really up to us. - Yeah, it is.
1194 01:03:03,208 01:03:05,708 What are you lookin' at me for? I went to bail you out. What are you lookin' at me for? I went to bail you out.
1195 01:03:06,291 01:03:08,458 800 people followed you? 800 people followed you?
1196 01:03:08,541 01:03:12,458 Oh, that. Yeah, people follow me. Hell if I know why. Oh, that. Yeah, people follow me. Hell if I know why.
1197 01:03:12,541 01:03:14,250 I'm racking my brain as well. I'm racking my brain as well.
1198 01:03:14,333 01:03:16,000 How'd you make bail so fast? How'd you make bail so fast?
1199 01:03:16,083 01:03:18,541 I wasn't arrested, I was detained. I wasn't arrested, I was detained.
1200 01:03:18,625 01:03:21,000 They couldn't figure out what to charge me with. They couldn't figure out what to charge me with.
1201 01:03:21,083 01:03:22,083 Assault. Assault.
1202 01:03:23,625 01:03:26,291 I was assaulting someone who was assaulting someone. I was assaulting someone who was assaulting someone.
1203 01:03:26,375 01:03:27,517 - So... - [Daphne] Okay, guys. - So... - [Daphne] Okay, guys.
1204 01:03:27,541 01:03:30,416 Nothing is more dangerous than a crowd of people moving. Nothing is more dangerous than a crowd of people moving.
1205 01:03:30,500 01:03:33,041 It's like trying to redirect the Mississippi River. It's like trying to redirect the Mississippi River.
1206 01:03:33,958 01:03:36,291 - Isn't she great? - Get your people to cool off. - Isn't she great? - Get your people to cool off.
1207 01:03:36,375 01:03:38,875 - We're responsible for these people. - Tommy. - We're responsible for these people. - Tommy.
1208 01:03:38,958 01:03:41,125 We have to protest in front of the convention. We have to protest in front of the convention.
1209 01:03:41,208 01:03:44,458 Plain and simple. 'Cause that's where the cameras are. Plain and simple. 'Cause that's where the cameras are.
1210 01:03:44,541 01:03:48,125 We have to get to the convention. That means we have to leave the park. We have to get to the convention. That means we have to leave the park.
1211 01:03:48,208 01:03:49,958 And that's when people'll get hurt. And that's when people'll get hurt.
1212 01:03:50,041 01:03:54,041 As long as every person following me knows that, then I sleep fine at night. As long as every person following me knows that, then I sleep fine at night.
1213 01:03:54,125 01:03:55,666 Tell me how you do it. Tell me how you do it.
1214 01:03:55,750 01:03:57,541 - A lot of it is drugs. - Yeah? - A lot of it is drugs. - Yeah?
1215 01:03:58,125 01:04:00,666 This is what happened when we try to go up a hill. This is what happened when we try to go up a hill.
1216 01:04:01,666 01:04:04,458 We're not getting anywhere near the convention. We're not getting anywhere near the convention.
1217 01:04:06,208 01:04:10,875 Special Agent O'Connor, you testified that Jerry Rubin said, Special Agent O'Connor, you testified that Jerry Rubin said,
1218 01:04:10,958 01:04:15,541 "Fuck 'em all. They're all pigs. We should form an army and get guns." "Fuck 'em all. They're all pigs. We should form an army and get guns."
1219 01:04:16,166 01:04:17,000 Yes. Yes.
1220 01:04:17,083 01:04:20,041 And when he said that, did anyone form an army and get guns? And when he said that, did anyone form an army and get guns?
1221 01:04:20,125 01:04:20,958 No. No.
1222 01:04:21,041 01:04:24,625 [Bill] Did Jerry Rubin instruct the crowd to run into the park? [Bill] Did Jerry Rubin instruct the crowd to run into the park?
1223 01:04:25,208 01:04:27,000 - No. - Did Rennie Davis? - No. - Did Rennie Davis?
1224 01:04:27,083 01:04:29,791 - No. - Was Abbie Hoffman even there? - No. - Was Abbie Hoffman even there?
1225 01:04:29,875 01:04:31,750 - No. - Was Dave Dellinger? - No. - Was Dave Dellinger?
1226 01:04:31,833 01:04:33,833 - No. - John Froines there? - No. - John Froines there?
1227 01:04:33,916 01:04:35,291 - No. - Lee Weiner? - No. - Lee Weiner?
1228 01:04:36,166 01:04:37,250 No, he wasn't there. No, he wasn't there.
1229 01:04:37,333 01:04:39,875 You testified that Jerry and Rennie… You testified that Jerry and Rennie…
1230 01:04:39,958 01:04:41,708 Can you say it for me again? Can you say it for me again?
1231 01:04:41,791 01:04:44,416 That they were trying to turn the people around That they were trying to turn the people around
1232 01:04:44,500 01:04:47,875 and send them back down the hill just like you told them to. and send them back down the hill just like you told them to.
1233 01:04:48,791 01:04:50,000 Is that correct? Is that correct?
1234 01:04:54,666 01:04:57,500 Mr. Kunstler, the demonstrators attacked the police Mr. Kunstler, the demonstrators attacked the police
1235 01:04:57,583 01:04:58,916 and the police responded. and the police responded.
1236 01:05:00,416 01:05:04,500 And are any of those demonstrators that you saw attacking the police And are any of those demonstrators that you saw attacking the police
1237 01:05:04,583 01:05:06,875 sitting here at the defense table? sitting here at the defense table?
1238 01:05:06,958 01:05:09,583 - No, sir. - Well, thank you. - No, sir. - Well, thank you.
1239 01:05:10,083 01:05:12,000 No further questions. No further questions.
1240 01:05:12,083 01:05:14,083 - The court will stand... - I wasn't there, either. - The court will stand... - I wasn't there, either.
1241 01:05:14,166 01:05:15,958 - Mr. Seale... - I wasn't there at all. - Mr. Seale... - I wasn't there at all.
1242 01:05:16,041 01:05:18,333 I should be allowed to cross-examine this witness! I should be allowed to cross-examine this witness!
1243 01:05:18,416 01:05:21,000 - We will stand in recess until... - Four hours! - We will stand in recess until... - Four hours!
1244 01:05:21,083 01:05:22,083 [Hoffman] Mr. Hampton! [Hoffman] Mr. Hampton!
1245 01:05:22,166 01:05:24,041 That's how long Bobby Seale was in Chicago. That's how long Bobby Seale was in Chicago.
1246 01:05:24,125 01:05:25,708 - [Hoffman] Quiet! - Four hours! - [Hoffman] Quiet! - Four hours!
1247 01:05:25,791 01:05:28,916 - [spectators clapping] - [gavel banging] - [spectators clapping] - [gavel banging]
1248 01:05:29,000 01:05:31,625 [gavel banging continues] [gavel banging continues]
1249 01:05:33,166 01:05:34,375 [bailiff] All rise. [bailiff] All rise.
1250 01:05:39,333 01:05:42,250 [Hoffman] The court will stand in recess for the weekend. [Hoffman] The court will stand in recess for the weekend.
1251 01:05:46,916 01:05:49,291 [brass quartet playing Christmas carols] [brass quartet playing Christmas carols]
1252 01:05:49,375 01:05:51,083 [Jerry] Yeah, I took in the exhibit. [Jerry] Yeah, I took in the exhibit.
1253 01:05:51,166 01:05:53,000 I cleared my mind. I cleared my mind.
1254 01:05:54,458 01:05:57,125 Stood there for 20 minutes. I felt nothing. Stood there for 20 minutes. I felt nothing.
1255 01:05:58,958 01:06:03,458 Well, but it wasn't a painting, it was an exhibit. Well, but it wasn't a painting, it was an exhibit.
1256 01:06:04,166 01:06:05,625 It was a natural history museum. It was a natural history museum.
1257 01:06:05,708 01:06:08,625 And when you put exhibits of Native Indian families And when you put exhibits of Native Indian families
1258 01:06:08,708 01:06:10,250 in a natural history museum in a natural history museum
1259 01:06:10,333 01:06:13,500 alongside dioramas of early man and the Jurassic age, alongside dioramas of early man and the Jurassic age,
1260 01:06:13,583 01:06:18,333 it gives the impression that the Cherokee evolved into modern-day Europeans. it gives the impression that the Cherokee evolved into modern-day Europeans.
1261 01:06:19,416 01:06:20,541 [Abbie] Look who it is. [Abbie] Look who it is.
1262 01:06:21,125 01:06:23,083 I got a bone to pick with that guy. I got a bone to pick with that guy.
1263 01:06:23,166 01:06:24,333 Hey, Counselor. Hey, Counselor.
1264 01:06:25,708 01:06:27,958 - No colleges this weekend? - [Abbie] Winter break. - No colleges this weekend? - [Abbie] Winter break.
1265 01:06:28,041 01:06:30,708 - My audience went home to their parents. - [Schultz] Mm-hmm. - My audience went home to their parents. - [Schultz] Mm-hmm.
1266 01:06:30,791 01:06:32,333 Are these ladies related to you? Are these ladies related to you?
1267 01:06:32,416 01:06:34,791 These are my daughters. This is Emily and Julie. These are my daughters. This is Emily and Julie.
1268 01:06:34,875 01:06:36,208 [Abbie] Your dad's a good guy. [Abbie] Your dad's a good guy.
1269 01:06:36,291 01:06:39,250 That's coming from someone who he's trying hard to put in prison. That's coming from someone who he's trying hard to put in prison.
1270 01:06:39,333 01:06:41,291 We shouldn't be talking without your lawyer. We shouldn't be talking without your lawyer.
1271 01:06:41,375 01:06:42,625 We're all on the same team. We're all on the same team.
1272 01:06:43,250 01:06:46,666 In a sense, I guess, but in a much truer sense, we're not. In a sense, I guess, but in a much truer sense, we're not.
1273 01:06:46,750 01:06:49,166 Girls, here, take this dollar Girls, here, take this dollar
1274 01:06:49,250 01:06:52,916 and go over to those musicians and put it in their hat, okay? and go over to those musicians and put it in their hat, okay?
1275 01:06:53,000 01:06:55,958 And here's a quarter. Go buy some of those candy-coated peanuts And here's a quarter. Go buy some of those candy-coated peanuts
1276 01:06:56,041 01:06:59,041 that your mom won't let you have. All right? Shh. that your mom won't let you have. All right? Shh.
1277 01:07:00,000 01:07:01,875 - [Abbie] Sweet kids. - Thank you. - [Abbie] Sweet kids. - Thank you.
1278 01:07:01,958 01:07:06,541 If your lawyer were here, I'd tell you the window's closing for you to plead out. If your lawyer were here, I'd tell you the window's closing for you to plead out.
1279 01:07:07,125 01:07:09,458 We're not taking a fuckin' deal. Would you stop? We're not taking a fuckin' deal. Would you stop?
1280 01:07:10,041 01:07:13,000 I wish I could share Abbie's sentiment that you're a good guy, I wish I could share Abbie's sentiment that you're a good guy,
1281 01:07:13,083 01:07:14,250 but I'm afraid I can't. but I'm afraid I can't.
1282 01:07:14,833 01:07:16,333 I'm sorry to hear that. I'm sorry to hear that.
1283 01:07:16,416 01:07:20,333 Sending Daphne O'Connor to break my heart was way out of line. Sending Daphne O'Connor to break my heart was way out of line.
1284 01:07:20,416 01:07:22,708 Well, I don't work for the FBI, Well, I don't work for the FBI,
1285 01:07:22,791 01:07:25,833 but O'Connor was one of many agents sent to gather intelligence but O'Connor was one of many agents sent to gather intelligence
1286 01:07:25,916 01:07:27,875 on what had been deemed a credible threat. on what had been deemed a credible threat.
1287 01:07:27,958 01:07:32,000 Fine. Then you bug our phones, you wire up a dope dealer. Be a man. Fine. Then you bug our phones, you wire up a dope dealer. Be a man.
1288 01:07:32,083 01:07:35,958 - You don't send a woman to ensorcell me. - What? - You don't send a woman to ensorcell me. - What?
1289 01:07:36,041 01:07:37,750 - It means to enchant. - Oh. - It means to enchant. - Oh.
1290 01:07:37,833 01:07:41,583 - Only to have her crush my soul. - How long did you two know each other? - Only to have her crush my soul. - How long did you two know each other?
1291 01:07:42,166 01:07:45,375 Ninety-three hours. Could've been a lifetime. Ninety-three hours. Could've been a lifetime.
1292 01:07:45,458 01:07:47,583 For a fruit fly. Enjoy your weekend. For a fruit fly. Enjoy your weekend.
1293 01:07:47,666 01:07:49,375 [Jerry] Is that even ethical? [Jerry] Is that even ethical?
1294 01:07:50,250 01:07:51,583 Aren't there ethics rules? Aren't there ethics rules?
1295 01:07:51,666 01:07:53,208 Did she engage with you sexually? Did she engage with you sexually?
1296 01:07:55,000 01:07:56,750 Well, we were takin' it slow. Well, we were takin' it slow.
1297 01:07:57,708 01:07:59,333 He's gonna be all right. He's gonna be all right.
1298 01:07:59,416 01:08:00,666 One egg is un oeuf? One egg is un oeuf?
1299 01:08:01,625 01:08:04,250 - They teach her that at the Academy? - Yep. - They teach her that at the Academy? - Yep.
1300 01:08:04,333 01:08:06,166 We don't have any beef with you. We don't have any beef with you.
1301 01:08:06,250 01:08:09,208 We know you're doing your job and you don't think we're criminals. We know you're doing your job and you don't think we're criminals.
1302 01:08:09,291 01:08:11,000 I'm not sure where you get that info, I'm not sure where you get that info,
1303 01:08:11,083 01:08:13,791 but I represent the People without passion or prejudice. but I represent the People without passion or prejudice.
1304 01:08:14,375 01:08:16,250 You think we were responsible? You think we were responsible?
1305 01:08:16,833 01:08:18,625 You got the result you were looking for. You got the result you were looking for.
1306 01:08:19,541 01:08:22,500 - So did Nixon. - How 'bout that? - So did Nixon. - How 'bout that?
1307 01:08:23,458 01:08:24,541 See you Monday. See you Monday.
1308 01:08:26,375 01:08:27,666 Does she ever mention me? Does she ever mention me?
1309 01:08:38,291 01:08:40,166 [telephone ringing] [telephone ringing]
1310 01:08:52,041 01:08:53,208 Conspiracy Office. Conspiracy Office.
1311 01:08:59,541 01:09:00,541 I need a second. I need a second.
1312 01:09:07,333 01:09:08,666 Something's happened, Tom. Something's happened, Tom.
1313 01:09:09,250 01:09:10,666 [door buzzes and unlocks] [door buzzes and unlocks]
1314 01:09:18,458 01:09:19,500 [door slams] [door slams]
1315 01:09:29,000 01:09:30,291 [Bill] Bobby, uh… [Bill] Bobby, uh…
1316 01:09:32,875 01:09:35,666 Fred Hampton was shot and killed last night. Fred Hampton was shot and killed last night.
1317 01:09:39,083 01:09:43,250 There was a police raid, and there was a shootout. There was a police raid, and there was a shootout.
1318 01:09:43,958 01:09:45,166 And he's dead. And he's dead.
1319 01:09:48,416 01:09:51,083 - It took place between the hours of 4:00... - I know. - It took place between the hours of 4:00... - I know.
1320 01:09:51,958 01:09:54,708 - You were told? - Yeah. - You were told? - Yeah.
1321 01:09:54,791 01:09:55,875 Um… Um…
1322 01:09:57,166 01:09:58,541 I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
1323 01:10:06,583 01:10:09,333 The seven of you, you've all got the same father, right? The seven of you, you've all got the same father, right?
1324 01:10:11,458 01:10:12,958 I'm talkin' to you. I'm talkin' to you.
1325 01:10:15,166 01:10:17,416 You all got the same father, right? You all got the same father, right?
1326 01:10:17,500 01:10:19,083 "Cut your hair… "Cut your hair…
1327 01:10:20,041 01:10:25,333 don't be a fag, respect authority, respect America, respect me." don't be a fag, respect authority, respect America, respect me."
1328 01:10:27,375 01:10:31,000 Your life, it's a "fuck you" to your father, right? Your life, it's a "fuck you" to your father, right?
1329 01:10:33,166 01:10:34,166 A little? A little?
1330 01:10:36,083 01:10:38,375 - [softly] Maybe. - [Bobby] Maybe. - [softly] Maybe. - [Bobby] Maybe.
1331 01:10:39,041 01:10:41,833 And you can see how that's different from a rope on a tree? And you can see how that's different from a rope on a tree?
1332 01:10:42,916 01:10:43,916 Yeah. Yeah.
1333 01:10:44,458 01:10:45,458 Yeah. Yeah.
1334 01:10:49,041 01:10:50,916 He was shot in the shoulder first. He was shot in the shoulder first.
1335 01:10:52,708 01:10:55,166 You can't aim a gun if you've been shot in the shoulder. You can't aim a gun if you've been shot in the shoulder.
1336 01:10:55,250 01:10:56,791 You can't squeeze the trigger. You can't squeeze the trigger.
1337 01:10:58,041 01:10:59,833 Second shot was in his head. Second shot was in his head.
1338 01:11:02,333 01:11:03,958 Fred was executed. Fred was executed.
1339 01:11:08,666 01:11:09,666 Anything else? Anything else?
1340 01:11:13,916 01:11:14,916 No. No.
1341 01:11:21,500 01:11:23,708 [door buzzes and opens] [door buzzes and opens]
1342 01:11:26,708 01:11:27,541 [door slams] [door slams]
1343 01:11:27,625 01:11:31,375 [Schultz distorted] Calling your attention to the evening of the next day, [Schultz distorted] Calling your attention to the evening of the next day,
1344 01:11:31,458 01:11:34,875 Tuesday, August 27th, were you in Grant Park? Tuesday, August 27th, were you in Grant Park?
1345 01:11:34,958 01:11:38,750 [detective distorted] Yes. There was a "Free Huey Newton" rally going on. [detective distorted] Yes. There was a "Free Huey Newton" rally going on.
1346 01:11:38,833 01:11:42,625 - [Schultz] Recognize any of the speakers? - I heard Jerry Rubin give a speech. - [Schultz] Recognize any of the speakers? - I heard Jerry Rubin give a speech.
1347 01:11:42,708 01:11:45,208 Phil Ochs sang, and then Bobby Seale gave a speech. Phil Ochs sang, and then Bobby Seale gave a speech.
1348 01:11:45,291 01:11:48,958 I object to this testimony against me because I have been denied counsel. I object to this testimony against me because I have been denied counsel.
1349 01:11:50,083 01:11:51,083 We understand. We understand.
1350 01:11:51,583 01:11:54,250 Do you recall any of Mr. Seale's speech? Do you recall any of Mr. Seale's speech?
1351 01:11:54,333 01:11:55,416 [detective] Yes. He said... [detective] Yes. He said...
1352 01:11:55,500 01:11:57,458 - I object to this man's... - Quiet! - I object to this man's... - Quiet!
1353 01:11:58,375 01:11:59,208 [Schultz] Go ahead. [Schultz] Go ahead.
1354 01:11:59,291 01:12:01,833 - [detective] May I refer to notes? - [Schultz] Yes. - [detective] May I refer to notes? - [Schultz] Yes.
1355 01:12:02,916 01:12:07,125 [clears throat] He said, "We must understand that as we go forth [clears throat] He said, "We must understand that as we go forth
1356 01:12:07,208 01:12:09,166 to try to move the reprobate politicians…" to try to move the reprobate politicians…"
1357 01:12:09,250 01:12:10,083 Your Honor... Your Honor...
1358 01:12:10,166 01:12:14,000 "…our cowardly Congress, the jive, double-lip talking Nixon..." "…our cowardly Congress, the jive, double-lip talking Nixon..."
1359 01:12:14,083 01:12:16,333 "Jive, double-lip, talking Nixon…" "Jive, double-lip, talking Nixon…"
1360 01:12:16,416 01:12:20,000 You're making me sound like one funky cat. Thank you, sir. You're making me sound like one funky cat. Thank you, sir.
1361 01:12:20,083 01:12:22,208 Last warning, Mr. Seale. Last warning, Mr. Seale.
1362 01:12:24,166 01:12:25,791 Did he say anything else? Did he say anything else?
1363 01:12:25,875 01:12:28,166 He said, "The revolution at this time He said, "The revolution at this time
1364 01:12:28,250 01:12:32,333 is directly connected to organized guns in force." is directly connected to organized guns in force."
1365 01:12:34,541 01:12:35,541 No more questions. No more questions.
1366 01:12:37,291 01:12:41,166 Jive, double-lip talking. Funky, funky cat. Jive, double-lip talking. Funky, funky cat.
1367 01:12:41,250 01:12:43,791 Would the defense like to cross-examine the witness? Would the defense like to cross-examine the witness?
1368 01:12:43,875 01:12:48,166 Yes. I'm sittin' here saying that I would like to cross-examine a witness. Yes. I'm sittin' here saying that I would like to cross-examine a witness.
1369 01:12:48,250 01:12:51,166 - Only lawyers can address a witness. - My lawyer is Charles Garry. - Only lawyers can address a witness. - My lawyer is Charles Garry.
1370 01:12:51,250 01:12:54,750 - I'm tired of hearing that. - Couldn't care less what you're tired of. - I'm tired of hearing that. - Couldn't care less what you're tired of.
1371 01:12:55,541 01:12:56,541 What did you say? What did you say?
1372 01:12:59,041 01:13:04,125 I said it would be impossible for me to care any less what you are tired of. I said it would be impossible for me to care any less what you are tired of.
1373 01:13:04,208 01:13:07,208 And I demand to cross-examine the witness. And I demand to cross-examine the witness.
1374 01:13:07,291 01:13:09,416 [Hoffman] Sit in your chair and be quiet. [Hoffman] Sit in your chair and be quiet.
1375 01:13:09,500 01:13:13,125 And don't ever address this court in that manner again. And don't ever address this court in that manner again.
1376 01:13:17,000 01:13:18,666 Are there any further questions? Are there any further questions?
1377 01:13:20,750 01:13:23,958 We'll stand in recess for one hour, and court will resume again... We'll stand in recess for one hour, and court will resume again...
1378 01:13:24,041 01:13:27,166 - It was premeditated murder! - [man] Yes, it was! - It was premeditated murder! - [man] Yes, it was!
1379 01:13:27,250 01:13:31,000 - Fred Hampton was assassinated last night! - [Hoffman] Marshals, put Mr. Seale... - Fred Hampton was assassinated last night! - [Hoffman] Marshals, put Mr. Seale...
1380 01:13:31,083 01:13:33,041 He wouldn't have been able to hold a gun! He wouldn't have been able to hold a gun!
1381 01:13:33,125 01:13:37,875 When they publish the coroner's report, ask about the bullet in his shoulder! When they publish the coroner's report, ask about the bullet in his shoulder!
1382 01:13:41,250 01:13:44,375 I strongly caution you, Mr. Seale. I strongly caution you, Mr. Seale.
1383 01:13:45,208 01:13:46,958 I strongly caution... I strongly caution...
1384 01:13:47,041 01:13:49,625 - Oh, strongly fuck yourself! - [spectators gasp] - Oh, strongly fuck yourself! - [spectators gasp]
1385 01:13:52,833 01:13:55,041 Marshals, take that defendant into a room Marshals, take that defendant into a room
1386 01:13:55,125 01:13:57,708 and deal with him as he should be dealt with. and deal with him as he should be dealt with.
1387 01:13:59,583 01:14:00,958 [spectators murmuring] [spectators murmuring]
1388 01:14:04,083 01:14:06,083 [muffled grunts, gasps] [muffled grunts, gasps]
1389 01:14:56,708 01:14:58,333 [door opens] [door opens]
1390 01:14:58,416 01:14:59,875 [spectators gasping] [spectators gasping]
1391 01:15:20,916 01:15:23,125 [gavel banging] [gavel banging]
1392 01:15:24,375 01:15:29,333 Let the record show that I tried, fairly and impartially. Let the record show that I tried, fairly and impartially.
1393 01:15:29,416 01:15:33,416 I tried to get the defendant to sit on his own. I tried to get the defendant to sit on his own.
1394 01:15:33,500 01:15:35,708 I ask you again, Mr. Seale, I ask you again, Mr. Seale,
1395 01:15:35,791 01:15:39,250 and you may indicate by raising your head up and down, and you may indicate by raising your head up and down,
1396 01:15:39,833 01:15:42,083 or moving it from side to side, or moving it from side to side,
1397 01:15:42,166 01:15:47,541 if I have your assurance that you will not do anything to disrupt this trial, if I have your assurance that you will not do anything to disrupt this trial,
1398 01:15:47,625 01:15:50,666 if I allow you to resume proper order. if I allow you to resume proper order.
1399 01:15:51,958 01:15:54,041 Do I have your assurance? Do I have your assurance?
1400 01:16:03,416 01:16:05,125 Mr. Schultz, call your next witness. Mr. Schultz, call your next witness.
1401 01:16:09,750 01:16:10,958 Mr. Schultz? Mr. Schultz?
1402 01:16:20,041 01:16:21,250 Your Honor, may we approach? Your Honor, may we approach?
1403 01:16:27,250 01:16:28,500 [Bill] Can he breathe? [Bill] Can he breathe?
1404 01:16:29,333 01:16:31,208 Can you breathe all right, Bobby? Can you breathe all right, Bobby?
1405 01:16:37,625 01:16:41,166 Your Honor, our defendant is gagged and bound in an American courtroom. Your Honor, our defendant is gagged and bound in an American courtroom.
1406 01:16:41,250 01:16:43,125 He brought it on himself. He brought it on himself.
1407 01:16:43,208 01:16:44,208 Are you insane? Are you insane?
1408 01:16:44,250 01:16:45,375 Mr. Kunstler. Mr. Kunstler.
1409 01:16:46,958 01:16:48,500 Love of God. Love of God.
1410 01:16:49,416 01:16:52,208 What do you want, Mr. Schultz? This is your sidebar. What do you want, Mr. Schultz? This is your sidebar.
1411 01:16:52,291 01:16:55,875 The government would like to make a motion that Bobby Seale be separated... The government would like to make a motion that Bobby Seale be separated...
1412 01:16:55,958 01:16:57,958 - Wait, wait, wait... - Sir, please. - Wait, wait, wait... - Sir, please.
1413 01:16:58,583 01:17:01,541 A motion that Bobby Seale be separated from the rest of the defendants A motion that Bobby Seale be separated from the rest of the defendants
1414 01:17:01,625 01:17:03,750 and his case be declared a mistrial. and his case be declared a mistrial.
1415 01:17:04,416 01:17:06,208 You want me to give him his mistrial? You want me to give him his mistrial?
1416 01:17:06,291 01:17:10,875 Of course, because you took that Black guy and you made him a sympathetic character. Of course, because you took that Black guy and you made him a sympathetic character.
1417 01:17:10,958 01:17:15,625 Mr. Kunstler, I have lived a very long time, sir. Mr. Kunstler, I have lived a very long time, sir.
1418 01:17:15,708 01:17:18,833 And you're the first person ever And you're the first person ever
1419 01:17:18,916 01:17:23,208 to suggest that I have discriminated against a Black man. to suggest that I have discriminated against a Black man.
1420 01:17:23,291 01:17:25,208 Then let the record show that I am the second. Then let the record show that I am the second.
1421 01:17:28,416 01:17:29,416 Step back. Step back.
1422 01:17:43,958 01:17:48,125 I'm issuing an order declaring a mistrial as to the defendant Bobby G. Seale. I'm issuing an order declaring a mistrial as to the defendant Bobby G. Seale.
1423 01:17:48,208 01:17:51,500 - [gavel bangs] - [all cheering and clapping] - [gavel bangs] - [all cheering and clapping]
1424 01:17:52,500 01:17:54,083 [gavel banging] [gavel banging]
1425 01:17:57,833 01:18:02,708 Mr. Seale, you are currently charged with 16 counts of contempt Mr. Seale, you are currently charged with 16 counts of contempt
1426 01:18:02,791 01:18:05,791 for your repeated displays of disrespect, for your repeated displays of disrespect,
1427 01:18:05,875 01:18:09,708 and you have a pending homicide charge in Connecticut. and you have a pending homicide charge in Connecticut.
1428 01:18:10,500 01:18:15,166 You are not home free, sir, and I doubt you ever will be. You are not home free, sir, and I doubt you ever will be.
1429 01:18:16,500 01:18:20,666 - We are adjourned until 10:00, Monday. - [gavel bangs] - We are adjourned until 10:00, Monday. - [gavel bangs]
1430 01:18:20,750 01:18:21,916 [bailiff] All rise. [bailiff] All rise.
1431 01:18:44,291 01:18:45,625 [door opens] [door opens]
1432 01:18:47,500 01:18:48,666 [door closes] [door closes]
1433 01:18:51,750 01:18:53,458 [telephone rings] [telephone rings]
1434 01:18:55,416 01:18:57,500 Conspiracy Office, how can I help you? Conspiracy Office, how can I help you?
1435 01:19:03,333 01:19:05,458 No, sir. I am a white woman. No, sir. I am a white woman.
1436 01:19:09,208 01:19:12,875 Yeah, I've slept with several in my life so far, and on balance, Yeah, I've slept with several in my life so far, and on balance,
1437 01:19:12,958 01:19:14,500 I'd have to say it is better. I'd have to say it is better.
1438 01:19:14,583 01:19:16,958 I think that's a big part of what's got you worked up. I think that's a big part of what's got you worked up.
1439 01:19:17,041 01:19:17,875 Hang up the phone. Hang up the phone.
1440 01:19:17,958 01:19:20,625 It's not so much that it's bigger. It's just better. It's not so much that it's bigger. It's just better.
1441 01:19:20,708 01:19:21,708 Hang up the phone. Hang up the phone.
1442 01:19:24,125 01:19:26,041 Was that a parting gift for Bobby? Was that a parting gift for Bobby?
1443 01:19:27,083 01:19:29,625 No. That was just for me. No. That was just for me.
1444 01:19:43,083 01:19:45,250 Why the fuck did you stand up? Why the fuck did you stand up?
1445 01:19:46,000 01:19:46,875 It was a reflex. It was a reflex.
1446 01:19:46,958 01:19:48,750 He was respecting the institution. He was respecting the institution.
1447 01:19:48,833 01:19:52,916 I don't know what good it does to insult the judge in view of the jury, the press, I don't know what good it does to insult the judge in view of the jury, the press,
1448 01:19:53,000 01:19:56,375 and Foran and Schultz, who'll recommend sentencing if we're convicted. and Foran and Schultz, who'll recommend sentencing if we're convicted.
1449 01:19:56,458 01:19:59,791 It's a revolution, Tom. We may have to hurt somebody's feelings. It's a revolution, Tom. We may have to hurt somebody's feelings.
1450 01:20:02,250 01:20:03,541 So, um… So, um…
1451 01:20:04,833 01:20:06,416 we have this list. we have this list.
1452 01:20:06,500 01:20:09,958 Maybe Monday morning, we could read the names into the record Maybe Monday morning, we could read the names into the record
1453 01:20:10,041 01:20:11,166 as a way of saying... as a way of saying...
1454 01:20:11,250 01:20:12,083 Saying what? Saying what?
1455 01:20:12,166 01:20:16,458 That whatever we're facing, you know, it's peanuts compared to what... That whatever we're facing, you know, it's peanuts compared to what...
1456 01:20:16,541 01:20:19,750 He's gonna sentence us. The judge decides what we're facing. He's gonna sentence us. The judge decides what we're facing.
1457 01:20:19,833 01:20:22,666 - It is a goddamn trial. - Political trial. - It is a goddamn trial. - Political trial.
1458 01:20:22,750 01:20:26,125 No, we were arrested… The law doesn't recognize political trials. No, we were arrested… The law doesn't recognize political trials.
1459 01:20:26,208 01:20:29,083 No, we weren't arrested. We were chosen. No, we weren't arrested. We were chosen.
1460 01:20:32,125 01:20:35,583 Lee, John, have you guys asked yourselves what you're doing here? Lee, John, have you guys asked yourselves what you're doing here?
1461 01:20:35,666 01:20:36,500 Every day. Every day.
1462 01:20:36,583 01:20:38,083 [Abbie] You're a give-back. [Abbie] You're a give-back.
1463 01:20:38,166 01:20:40,708 They give the jury a couple of guys they can acquit They give the jury a couple of guys they can acquit
1464 01:20:40,791 01:20:43,583 so they feel better about finding the rest of us guilty. so they feel better about finding the rest of us guilty.
1465 01:20:46,583 01:20:48,375 Lenny, am I wrong? Lenny, am I wrong?
1466 01:20:49,750 01:20:50,583 No. No.
1467 01:20:50,666 01:20:54,666 Wait, so our role in history is that we made it easier to convict our friends? Wait, so our role in history is that we made it easier to convict our friends?
1468 01:20:54,750 01:20:57,541 They're gonna find us guilty if they just don't like you. They're gonna find us guilty if they just don't like you.
1469 01:20:57,625 01:21:00,000 That's why Bill won't put us on the stand. That's why Bill won't put us on the stand.
1470 01:21:00,083 01:21:02,666 I can take the stand. I'm easier for them to like. I can take the stand. I'm easier for them to like.
1471 01:21:03,583 01:21:05,625 I'm literally a Boy Scout troop leader. I'm literally a Boy Scout troop leader.
1472 01:21:05,708 01:21:07,791 [laughing] [laughing]
1473 01:21:10,958 01:21:13,291 You're a conscientious objector. You're a conscientious objector.
1474 01:21:13,375 01:21:15,250 A lot of people are conscientious objectors. A lot of people are conscientious objectors.
1475 01:21:15,333 01:21:16,500 During World War II? During World War II?
1476 01:21:16,583 01:21:20,125 You sat out World War II. Even I wanna punch you. You sat out World War II. Even I wanna punch you.
1477 01:21:20,208 01:21:23,458 - We can talk about that. - [Bill] I'm looking forward to it. - We can talk about that. - [Bill] I'm looking forward to it.
1478 01:21:23,541 01:21:25,208 [Jerry] I could take the stand. [Jerry] I could take the stand.
1479 01:21:25,291 01:21:27,916 Mr. Rubin, you ever taught a classroom how to make a bomb? Mr. Rubin, you ever taught a classroom how to make a bomb?
1480 01:21:28,000 01:21:30,916 Man, eighth graders are taught how Oppenheimer made a bomb. Man, eighth graders are taught how Oppenheimer made a bomb.
1481 01:21:31,000 01:21:34,125 Not one you can build with materials from Woolworth's. Not one you can build with materials from Woolworth's.
1482 01:21:34,208 01:21:35,625 You know what'd be ironic? You know what'd be ironic?
1483 01:21:36,416 01:21:38,416 - What? - [Rennie] I said, know what... - What? - [Rennie] I said, know what...
1484 01:21:38,500 01:21:40,750 He heard you. He's asking what would be ironic. He heard you. He's asking what would be ironic.
1485 01:21:40,833 01:21:45,541 I was gonna say if John Mitchell did all this just to get back at Ramsey Clark. I was gonna say if John Mitchell did all this just to get back at Ramsey Clark.
1486 01:21:45,625 01:21:47,585 - [Tom] For what? - [Rennie] That thing, remember? - [Tom] For what? - [Rennie] That thing, remember?
1487 01:21:47,666 01:21:50,375 Outgoing cabinet members are supposed to resign, Outgoing cabinet members are supposed to resign,
1488 01:21:50,458 01:21:53,250 but Ramsey Clark didn't tender his resignation till... but Ramsey Clark didn't tender his resignation till...
1489 01:21:53,333 01:21:55,375 [Jerry] I read Mitchell had a fit about that. [Jerry] I read Mitchell had a fit about that.
1490 01:21:55,458 01:21:58,416 - [Rennie] Yeah. - [Jerry] Did you read about that, Lenny? - [Rennie] Yeah. - [Jerry] Did you read about that, Lenny?
1491 01:21:59,000 01:22:00,000 Bill? Bill?
1492 01:22:00,958 01:22:03,083 He was never even on our witness list. He was never even on our witness list.
1493 01:22:03,166 01:22:04,166 Who? Who?
1494 01:22:04,250 01:22:08,833 - The first witness you put on the stand... - If this was a political trial… - The first witness you put on the stand... - If this was a political trial…
1495 01:22:09,666 01:22:11,416 - Bernadine. - Yeah. - Bernadine. - Yeah.
1496 01:22:11,500 01:22:13,791 I need my office to find Ramsey Clark. I need my office to find Ramsey Clark.
1497 01:22:14,541 01:22:17,291 And William Kunstler just showed up. And William Kunstler just showed up.
1498 01:22:32,416 01:22:33,416 [Bill] Len. [Bill] Len.
1499 01:22:38,291 01:22:41,416 Maybe… I don't know, does he have a Secret Service detail? Maybe… I don't know, does he have a Secret Service detail?
1500 01:22:41,500 01:22:44,541 Nah, they're here for us. Nah, they're here for us.
1501 01:22:50,166 01:22:52,458 He was the attorney general. What do we do? He was the attorney general. What do we do?
1502 01:22:52,541 01:22:55,416 - We just ring the doorbell? - [Leonard] Yeah, I guess so. - We just ring the doorbell? - [Leonard] Yeah, I guess so.
1503 01:22:56,958 01:22:59,250 - You wanna do it? - Just ring the damn… - You wanna do it? - Just ring the damn…
1504 01:22:59,333 01:23:00,708 [doorbell rings] [doorbell rings]
1505 01:23:01,875 01:23:03,041 [door opens] [door opens]
1506 01:23:04,916 01:23:08,125 Good morning, I'm Bill Kunstler. Mr. Clark is expecting us. Good morning, I'm Bill Kunstler. Mr. Clark is expecting us.
1507 01:23:08,208 01:23:09,208 [woman] Come in. [woman] Come in.
1508 01:23:14,041 01:23:15,041 [Tom] Good morning. [Tom] Good morning.
1509 01:23:20,000 01:23:22,166 He's in his study at the end of the hall. He's in his study at the end of the hall.
1510 01:23:22,750 01:23:24,000 Can I get anyone coffee? Can I get anyone coffee?
1511 01:23:24,083 01:23:26,375 I tell you what, ma'am. That sounds great. I tell you what, ma'am. That sounds great.
1512 01:23:26,458 01:23:27,791 Nothing for me. Thank you. Nothing for me. Thank you.
1513 01:23:28,625 01:23:30,208 [woman] At the end of the hall. [woman] At the end of the hall.
1514 01:23:31,166 01:23:32,375 Mr. Hayden? Mr. Hayden?
1515 01:23:33,541 01:23:36,750 I read in the paper you were the only one who stood for the judge I read in the paper you were the only one who stood for the judge
1516 01:23:36,833 01:23:38,416 after what he did to Bobby. after what he did to Bobby.
1517 01:23:40,125 01:23:43,500 Uh, that was a mistake. It was just a reflex. Uh, that was a mistake. It was just a reflex.
1518 01:23:43,583 01:23:44,583 [Bill] Tom? [Bill] Tom?
1519 01:23:55,750 01:23:56,750 [Clark] Hey, Bill. [Clark] Hey, Bill.
1520 01:23:58,416 01:23:59,583 Ramsey Clark. Ramsey Clark.
1521 01:24:00,458 01:24:01,791 Pleased to meet you, sir. Pleased to meet you, sir.
1522 01:24:03,083 01:24:05,250 This is Leonard Weinglass. This is Leonard Weinglass.
1523 01:24:05,333 01:24:07,583 - Mr. Weinglass. - [Bill] And Tom Hayden. - Mr. Weinglass. - [Bill] And Tom Hayden.
1524 01:24:07,666 01:24:09,208 Oh, I know who Tom Hayden is. Oh, I know who Tom Hayden is.
1525 01:24:09,291 01:24:11,541 The FBI used to work for me. The FBI used to work for me.
1526 01:24:12,791 01:24:16,333 Those two men, they're senior deputies with the Justice Department. Those two men, they're senior deputies with the Justice Department.
1527 01:24:16,416 01:24:17,750 Mr. Kelly and Mr. Ackerman. Mr. Kelly and Mr. Ackerman.
1528 01:24:19,166 01:24:22,083 - I don't know why these men are here. - I invited them. - I don't know why these men are here. - I invited them.
1529 01:24:22,666 01:24:23,541 You invited them? You invited them?
1530 01:24:23,625 01:24:26,166 I don't want the appearance of impropriety. I don't want the appearance of impropriety.
1531 01:24:26,250 01:24:27,750 There isn't any impropriety. There isn't any impropriety.
1532 01:24:27,833 01:24:30,041 And now there are witnesses to that. And now there are witnesses to that.
1533 01:24:30,125 01:24:34,875 Sir, these men are gonna call Schultz and Foran as soon as we're done. Sir, these men are gonna call Schultz and Foran as soon as we're done.
1534 01:24:34,958 01:24:38,250 Don't be ridiculous. They already called Schultz and Foran. Don't be ridiculous. They already called Schultz and Foran.
1535 01:24:38,333 01:24:41,500 And they're gonna call John Mitchell as soon as we're done here. And they're gonna call John Mitchell as soon as we're done here.
1536 01:24:42,125 01:24:43,791 Go ahead, ask what you wanna ask. Go ahead, ask what you wanna ask.
1537 01:24:45,083 01:24:47,416 - In front of them? - Yeah. - In front of them? - Yeah.
1538 01:24:51,250 01:24:52,250 All right. All right.
1539 01:24:53,208 01:24:57,375 Mr. Clark, while you were attorney general for President Johnson Mr. Clark, while you were attorney general for President Johnson
1540 01:24:57,458 01:24:59,625 was there ever any discussion with the White House was there ever any discussion with the White House
1541 01:24:59,708 01:25:01,875 about seeking indictments against my clients? about seeking indictments against my clients?
1542 01:25:01,958 01:25:03,791 - He can't answer that. - Why not? - He can't answer that. - Why not?
1543 01:25:03,875 01:25:04,875 It's against the law. It's against the law.
1544 01:25:04,958 01:25:08,041 That's an overly broad interpretation of the law. That's an overly broad interpretation of the law.
1545 01:25:08,125 01:25:10,000 - If you'd like... - [Bill] I'll tell you what. - If you'd like... - [Bill] I'll tell you what.
1546 01:25:10,083 01:25:12,291 We've dealt with jury tampering, wiretapping, We've dealt with jury tampering, wiretapping,
1547 01:25:12,375 01:25:14,541 a defendant that was literally gagged, a defendant that was literally gagged,
1548 01:25:14,625 01:25:17,291 and a judge who's been handing down rulings from the bench and a judge who's been handing down rulings from the bench
1549 01:25:17,375 01:25:19,625 that would be considered wrong in Honduras. that would be considered wrong in Honduras.
1550 01:25:19,708 01:25:23,916 So I'm a little less interested in the law than I was when this trial began. So I'm a little less interested in the law than I was when this trial began.
1551 01:25:24,000 01:25:29,375 Well, whether you like the law or not, as former AG, he is protected by it. Well, whether you like the law or not, as former AG, he is protected by it.
1552 01:25:29,458 01:25:31,166 No, you are protected by it. No, you are protected by it.
1553 01:25:32,166 01:25:34,833 And with respect, sir, I can subpoena you. And with respect, sir, I can subpoena you.
1554 01:25:34,916 01:25:37,750 Find a judge in this circuit who will sign that subpoena. Find a judge in this circuit who will sign that subpoena.
1555 01:25:37,833 01:25:41,583 He's right. And taking the stand voluntarily would be a big risk for me. He's right. And taking the stand voluntarily would be a big risk for me.
1556 01:25:42,166 01:25:43,916 Well, again, with due respect, sir, Well, again, with due respect, sir,
1557 01:25:44,000 01:25:47,375 my clients take a much bigger risk when they… my clients take a much bigger risk when they…
1558 01:25:48,083 01:25:51,000 - stand against an enormous power… - [Clark] What took you so long? - stand against an enormous power… - [Clark] What took you so long?
1559 01:25:51,083 01:25:53,708 …that they can't even see, and that… …that they can't even see, and that…
1560 01:25:54,666 01:25:57,083 I'm sorry. What took me so long to do what? I'm sorry. What took me so long to do what?
1561 01:25:57,166 01:25:59,125 To realize I'm your star witness. To realize I'm your star witness.
1562 01:26:02,041 01:26:04,708 - We were remarking upon that ourselves... - Bill… - We were remarking upon that ourselves... - Bill…
1563 01:26:04,791 01:26:06,000 He can't testify. He can't testify.
1564 01:26:06,083 01:26:08,458 I'm in private practice now. I'm in private practice now.
1565 01:26:08,541 01:26:11,208 And if John Mitchell wants to cut me in half, And if John Mitchell wants to cut me in half,
1566 01:26:11,291 01:26:12,916 he can and he will. he can and he will.
1567 01:26:13,000 01:26:14,500 You have to find some… You have to find some…
1568 01:26:15,750 01:26:17,916 Sir, you have to find some courage now… Sir, you have to find some courage now…
1569 01:26:19,208 01:26:21,958 - And... - Find some courage? Yeah. - And... - Find some courage? Yeah.
1570 01:26:22,041 01:26:24,708 Yes. You have to find some courage and... Yes. You have to find some courage and...
1571 01:26:24,791 01:26:25,791 Tom. Tom.
1572 01:26:29,583 01:26:32,041 That's what those two men came to tell me, That's what those two men came to tell me,
1573 01:26:32,125 01:26:36,083 that if John Mitchell wants to cut me in half, he can and he will. that if John Mitchell wants to cut me in half, he can and he will.
1574 01:26:36,666 01:26:40,833 So I wanted them in the room when I said, So I wanted them in the room when I said,
1575 01:26:41,708 01:26:43,041 "When do you want me in court?" "When do you want me in court?"
1576 01:26:45,833 01:26:46,958 Mr. Clark? Mr. Clark?
1577 01:26:47,583 01:26:48,583 I'm sorry? I'm sorry?
1578 01:26:49,125 01:26:50,458 Swear me in, Bill. Swear me in, Bill.
1579 01:26:50,541 01:26:55,000 It is against the law for you to testify, Ramsey. It is as simple as that. It is against the law for you to testify, Ramsey. It is as simple as that.
1580 01:26:55,791 01:26:57,083 It's General Clark. It's General Clark.
1581 01:26:57,791 01:26:59,958 And arrest me or shut the fuck up. And arrest me or shut the fuck up.
1582 01:27:05,333 01:27:06,375 Found some. Found some.
1583 01:27:08,500 01:27:11,041 Your Honor, the People move to disallow this witness. Your Honor, the People move to disallow this witness.
1584 01:27:11,125 01:27:14,083 I'm sure the defense anticipated that. I'm sure the defense anticipated that.
1585 01:27:14,166 01:27:16,125 [Schultz] Code of federal regulations mandates [Schultz] Code of federal regulations mandates
1586 01:27:16,208 01:27:18,500 the disclosure of Justice Department materials the disclosure of Justice Department materials
1587 01:27:18,583 01:27:21,625 is prohibited without prior knowledge of the attorney general, is prohibited without prior knowledge of the attorney general,
1588 01:27:21,708 01:27:24,666 plainly meaning the sitting attorney general, plainly meaning the sitting attorney general,
1589 01:27:24,750 01:27:27,583 who is John Mitchell, who has denied his approval. who is John Mitchell, who has denied his approval.
1590 01:27:27,666 01:27:32,541 Judge, the rule refers only to very specific documents and information. Judge, the rule refers only to very specific documents and information.
1591 01:27:32,625 01:27:36,333 If the regulation were interpreted as Mr. Schultz is asking it to be, If the regulation were interpreted as Mr. Schultz is asking it to be,
1592 01:27:36,416 01:27:38,250 nobody in the federal government nobody in the federal government
1593 01:27:38,333 01:27:41,750 could ever testify in any trial after they left their job. could ever testify in any trial after they left their job.
1594 01:27:43,875 01:27:46,583 I think the government is at least justified I think the government is at least justified
1595 01:27:46,666 01:27:50,166 in asking the defense to demonstrate, by voir dire, in asking the defense to demonstrate, by voir dire,
1596 01:27:50,250 01:27:53,083 the testimony it expects to elicit from the witness. the testimony it expects to elicit from the witness.
1597 01:27:53,166 01:27:56,916 You'd like us to question the witness, this witness, You'd like us to question the witness, this witness,
1598 01:27:57,000 01:27:59,833 outside the presence of the jury? outside the presence of the jury?
1599 01:27:59,916 01:28:04,416 If I find any of the testimony relevant, I'll call the jury back in to hear it. If I find any of the testimony relevant, I'll call the jury back in to hear it.
1600 01:28:05,375 01:28:07,083 Take it or leave it, Mr. Kunstler. Take it or leave it, Mr. Kunstler.
1601 01:28:10,458 01:28:12,750 Defense calls Ramsey Clark. Defense calls Ramsey Clark.
1602 01:28:25,833 01:28:26,916 State your name. State your name.
1603 01:28:27,416 01:28:30,625 - [Clark] William Ramsey Clark. - Do you swear the testimony you give - [Clark] William Ramsey Clark. - Do you swear the testimony you give
1604 01:28:30,708 01:28:33,250 will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
1605 01:28:33,333 01:28:34,333 [Clark] I do. [Clark] I do.
1606 01:28:37,291 01:28:42,708 Mr. Clark, what was your occupation in the summer of 1968? Mr. Clark, what was your occupation in the summer of 1968?
1607 01:28:42,791 01:28:45,166 I was the attorney general of the United States. I was the attorney general of the United States.
1608 01:28:45,250 01:28:47,791 - You were appointed by President Johnson? - Yes. - You were appointed by President Johnson? - Yes.
1609 01:28:47,875 01:28:51,208 - Confirmed by the United States Senate. - Yes. - Confirmed by the United States Senate. - Yes.
1610 01:28:51,291 01:28:56,541 Now, did you receive a phone call at your office at 11:50 a.m., Now, did you receive a phone call at your office at 11:50 a.m.,
1611 01:28:56,625 01:28:59,041 on September 10th of last year? on September 10th of last year?
1612 01:28:59,125 01:28:59,958 Yes. Yes.
1613 01:29:00,041 01:29:02,208 - And from whom was that call? - President Johnson. - And from whom was that call? - President Johnson.
1614 01:29:02,291 01:29:07,750 Will you state what President Johnson said to you and what was said to him? Will you state what President Johnson said to you and what was said to him?
1615 01:29:07,833 01:29:10,125 Your Honor, at this point, we will object. Your Honor, at this point, we will object.
1616 01:29:10,208 01:29:13,875 A cabinet officer does not have to, and should not have to relate the contents A cabinet officer does not have to, and should not have to relate the contents
1617 01:29:13,958 01:29:17,250 of a private call he had with the president. of a private call he had with the president.
1618 01:29:17,333 01:29:19,000 I'll sustain the objection. I'll sustain the objection.
1619 01:29:19,083 01:29:22,458 Please, the court… This is voir dire. Please, the court… This is voir dire.
1620 01:29:22,541 01:29:25,166 I thought objections were reserved. I thought objections were reserved.
1621 01:29:25,250 01:29:28,291 There's a question of attorney-client privilege to consider. There's a question of attorney-client privilege to consider.
1622 01:29:28,375 01:29:31,208 [Clark] The president isn't a client of the attorney general. [Clark] The president isn't a client of the attorney general.
1623 01:29:34,875 01:29:36,125 Excuse me, sir? Excuse me, sir?
1624 01:29:36,708 01:29:39,750 The president isn't a client of the attorney general. The president isn't a client of the attorney general.
1625 01:29:39,833 01:29:40,833 I'm happy to answer. I'm happy to answer.
1626 01:29:40,916 01:29:42,375 [Schultz] Your Honor… [Schultz] Your Honor…
1627 01:29:44,375 01:29:47,833 Hearing from the witness on this point is highly irregular. Hearing from the witness on this point is highly irregular.
1628 01:29:49,041 01:29:51,833 Well, gentlemen, um… Well, gentlemen, um…
1629 01:29:53,583 01:29:55,083 This is my courtroom. This is my courtroom.
1630 01:29:55,833 01:29:59,500 But the witness is the former, uh… But the witness is the former, uh…
1631 01:29:59,583 01:30:03,166 He's just stated his willingness, you know, He's just stated his willingness, you know,
1632 01:30:03,250 01:30:07,291 so, for the purposes of voir dire, I'll hear the answer. so, for the purposes of voir dire, I'll hear the answer.
1633 01:30:08,333 01:30:09,333 Thank you. Thank you.
1634 01:30:09,958 01:30:15,541 Mr. Clark, uh, did President Johnson ask you a question in that phone call? Mr. Clark, uh, did President Johnson ask you a question in that phone call?
1635 01:30:16,416 01:30:20,000 The president asked me if I intended to seek any indictments The president asked me if I intended to seek any indictments
1636 01:30:20,083 01:30:23,500 related to the riots the previous month in Chicago. related to the riots the previous month in Chicago.
1637 01:30:24,416 01:30:25,916 And what did you tell him? And what did you tell him?
1638 01:30:26,000 01:30:28,583 I told him we wouldn't be seeking indictments. I told him we wouldn't be seeking indictments.
1639 01:30:28,666 01:30:30,208 And can you tell us why? And can you tell us why?
1640 01:30:30,291 01:30:34,708 An investigation by our criminal division led to the conclusion An investigation by our criminal division led to the conclusion
1641 01:30:34,791 01:30:37,500 that the riots were started by the Chicago Police Department. that the riots were started by the Chicago Police Department.
1642 01:30:37,583 01:30:39,708 [all cheering and clapping] [all cheering and clapping]
1643 01:30:42,041 01:30:43,833 [gavel banging] [gavel banging]
1644 01:30:52,750 01:30:56,333 And, Mr. Clark, did your counterintelligence division And, Mr. Clark, did your counterintelligence division
1645 01:30:56,416 01:30:58,000 make a report as well? make a report as well?
1646 01:30:58,083 01:31:01,958 They concluded that there was no conspiracy by the defendants They concluded that there was no conspiracy by the defendants
1647 01:31:02,041 01:31:04,958 to incite violence during the convention. to incite violence during the convention.
1648 01:31:05,041 01:31:07,250 And then what happened on the first Tuesday, And then what happened on the first Tuesday,
1649 01:31:07,333 01:31:09,875 after the first Monday, in November of that year? after the first Monday, in November of that year?
1650 01:31:09,958 01:31:12,375 - Richard Nixon was elected president. - Sustained. - Richard Nixon was elected president. - Sustained.
1651 01:31:12,458 01:31:14,333 - Nobody objected... - [Schultz] We do. - Nobody objected... - [Schultz] We do.
1652 01:31:14,416 01:31:17,000 It's well-known there's no love lost between the witness It's well-known there's no love lost between the witness
1653 01:31:17,083 01:31:18,625 and the sitting attorney general. and the sitting attorney general.
1654 01:31:18,708 01:31:21,083 This witness was called to wage a political attack This witness was called to wage a political attack
1655 01:31:21,166 01:31:23,250 and should not be allowed before the jury. and should not be allowed before the jury.
1656 01:31:23,333 01:31:24,166 Mr. Kunstler. Mr. Kunstler.
1657 01:31:24,250 01:31:26,541 Your Honor, you cannot possibly be considering Your Honor, you cannot possibly be considering
1658 01:31:26,625 01:31:29,916 not allowing the jury to hear what we've just heard? not allowing the jury to hear what we've just heard?
1659 01:31:30,000 01:31:32,041 The witness can't present them testimony The witness can't present them testimony
1660 01:31:32,125 01:31:34,916 that would assist in making a determination of guilt or innocence. that would assist in making a determination of guilt or innocence.
1661 01:31:35,000 01:31:38,500 He just testified his own Justice Department came to the conclusion... He just testified his own Justice Department came to the conclusion...
1662 01:31:38,583 01:31:40,166 The current Justice Department, The current Justice Department,
1663 01:31:40,250 01:31:42,291 the one that matters, came to a new conclusion. the one that matters, came to a new conclusion.
1664 01:31:42,375 01:31:46,166 Therefore, motivation of the prosecution has to be called into question. Therefore, motivation of the prosecution has to be called into question.
1665 01:31:46,250 01:31:49,750 The motivation of the prosecution is not an issue in a courtroom. The motivation of the prosecution is not an issue in a courtroom.
1666 01:31:49,833 01:31:53,750 In any courtroom I've ever been in, except this one. In any courtroom I've ever been in, except this one.
1667 01:31:53,833 01:31:54,833 Object. Object.
1668 01:31:54,916 01:31:57,458 [Hoffman] Mr. Kunstler, do you have any further examination [Hoffman] Mr. Kunstler, do you have any further examination
1669 01:31:57,541 01:32:01,583 that will demonstrate that this witness will make a material contribution, that will demonstrate that this witness will make a material contribution,
1670 01:32:01,666 01:32:04,291 or should I just ask him to step down? or should I just ask him to step down?
1671 01:32:04,375 01:32:06,375 You've ruled. You've ruled.
1672 01:32:10,250 01:32:13,458 You're not gonna let the jury hear his testimony. You're not gonna let the jury hear his testimony.
1673 01:32:13,541 01:32:16,041 Not unless you can demonstrate to me, Not unless you can demonstrate to me,
1674 01:32:16,125 01:32:18,833 which you have not thus far done, that this witness... which you have not thus far done, that this witness...
1675 01:32:18,916 01:32:22,041 - Are you any good? - Are you addressing the court reporter? - Are you any good? - Are you addressing the court reporter?
1676 01:32:22,125 01:32:23,583 - Keep up with us. - Mr. Kunstler... - Keep up with us. - Mr. Kunstler...
1677 01:32:23,666 01:32:25,375 Is this prosecution politically motivated? Is this prosecution politically motivated?
1678 01:32:25,458 01:32:26,958 - Object! - Yes. - Object! - Yes.
1679 01:32:27,041 01:32:29,125 President Nixon inherited an unpopular war. President Nixon inherited an unpopular war.
1680 01:32:29,208 01:32:30,458 - Yes. - Step down, Mr. Clark. - Yes. - Step down, Mr. Clark.
1681 01:32:30,541 01:32:32,875 And your clients make it more unpopular every day. And your clients make it more unpopular every day.
1682 01:32:32,958 01:32:37,625 This administration is paranoid about the SDS, the Mobe, the New Left… This administration is paranoid about the SDS, the Mobe, the New Left…
1683 01:32:37,708 01:32:39,666 [Hoffman] Mr. Clark, please. [Hoffman] Mr. Clark, please.
1684 01:32:40,375 01:32:44,791 Please, sir. I will be forced to find you in contempt. Please, sir. I will be forced to find you in contempt.
1685 01:32:45,416 01:32:46,625 Do you understand? Do you understand?
1686 01:32:49,250 01:32:50,250 I do, Your Honor. I do, Your Honor.
1687 01:32:50,708 01:32:52,625 Then step down, please. Then step down, please.
1688 01:32:56,291 01:32:57,458 Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir.
1689 01:33:06,625 01:33:08,375 Just get to work on the appeal. Just get to work on the appeal.
1690 01:33:18,541 01:33:21,250 Your Honor, when the jury returns, Your Honor, when the jury returns,
1691 01:33:22,416 01:33:26,250 will they be informed that the defense had called will they be informed that the defense had called
1692 01:33:26,333 01:33:29,416 the former attorney general of the United States of America, the former attorney general of the United States of America,
1693 01:33:29,500 01:33:33,250 but this court ruled that he couldn't testify? but this court ruled that he couldn't testify?
1694 01:33:34,041 01:33:36,250 No, that motion will be denied. No, that motion will be denied.
1695 01:33:36,333 01:33:38,875 [spectators murmuring] [spectators murmuring]
1696 01:33:56,041 01:33:59,583 Cite Mr. Kunstler with his third count of contempt. Cite Mr. Kunstler with his third count of contempt.
1697 01:34:05,875 01:34:07,125 [David] You're a thug. [David] You're a thug.
1698 01:34:07,208 01:34:09,416 Did one of the defendants speak? Did one of the defendants speak?
1699 01:34:09,500 01:34:13,291 I did. I said you're a thug, because you are. I did. I said you're a thug, because you are.
1700 01:34:13,375 01:34:15,125 - Dave. - Please sit, Mr. Dellinger. - Dave. - Please sit, Mr. Dellinger.
1701 01:34:15,208 01:34:17,666 - If we're guilty, why not give us a trial? - [Leonard] Dave. - If we're guilty, why not give us a trial? - [Leonard] Dave.
1702 01:34:17,750 01:34:19,375 Marshals, seat the defendant. Marshals, seat the defendant.
1703 01:34:19,458 01:34:22,750 If we're guilty, which you have clearly decided... If we're guilty, which you have clearly decided...
1704 01:34:22,833 01:34:24,333 - Dave, I've got... - Watch yourself. - Dave, I've got... - Watch yourself.
1705 01:34:24,416 01:34:26,708 You've clearly decided that we were, why not... You've clearly decided that we were, why not...
1706 01:34:26,791 01:34:29,333 No. You don't… No, you don't need to grab my arm. No. You don't… No, you don't need to grab my arm.
1707 01:34:33,000 01:34:34,958 If we're guilty, why not give us a trial? If we're guilty, why not give us a trial?
1708 01:34:35,041 01:34:38,541 I mean, I have sat here for six months and watched you! I mean, I have sat here for six months and watched you!
1709 01:34:38,625 01:34:40,958 You don't need to grab my arm. You don't need to grab my arm.
1710 01:34:41,041 01:34:43,250 I have watched you. I've watched you... I have watched you. I've watched you...
1711 01:34:43,333 01:34:44,333 Sir... [grunts] Sir... [grunts]
1712 01:34:44,416 01:34:45,625 [spectators gasp] [spectators gasp]
1713 01:34:47,166 01:34:49,541 [Jerry] It's okay. He would not hurt a fly. [Jerry] It's okay. He would not hurt a fly.
1714 01:34:49,625 01:34:51,208 Take him out of here. Lock him up. Take him out of here. Lock him up.
1715 01:34:52,916 01:34:54,583 [handcuffs clinking] [handcuffs clinking]
1716 01:34:54,666 01:34:55,875 I hit him. I hit him.
1717 01:34:57,625 01:34:58,875 I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
1718 01:35:08,041 01:35:09,083 [softly] I'm sorry. [softly] I'm sorry.
1719 01:35:27,583 01:35:29,833 [telephone ringing] [telephone ringing]
1720 01:35:42,958 01:35:45,791 There's only one thing. There's one thing to do. There's only one thing. There's one thing to do.
1721 01:35:46,500 01:35:47,875 Solidarity with Dave. Solidarity with Dave.
1722 01:35:49,583 01:35:52,291 Tomorrow, we go into court and get ourselves arrested. Tomorrow, we go into court and get ourselves arrested.
1723 01:35:53,208 01:35:54,541 We're already arrested. We're already arrested.
1724 01:35:55,250 01:35:57,541 Is Bill talking to you about taking the stand? Is Bill talking to you about taking the stand?
1725 01:35:58,166 01:36:01,041 The press guys are saying Bill's been talking to you about it. The press guys are saying Bill's been talking to you about it.
1726 01:36:01,125 01:36:02,458 He's been talking about it. He's been talking about it.
1727 01:36:02,541 01:36:05,833 He thinks you might get the crowd worked up with a position paper? He thinks you might get the crowd worked up with a position paper?
1728 01:36:05,916 01:36:09,416 Maybe he thinks I won't try to get the crowd worked up at all. Maybe he thinks I won't try to get the crowd worked up at all.
1729 01:36:10,000 01:36:13,666 Maybe he thinks there are jurors who relied on the safety of the police Maybe he thinks there are jurors who relied on the safety of the police
1730 01:36:13,750 01:36:15,916 and are put off when someone calls them pigs, and are put off when someone calls them pigs,
1731 01:36:16,000 01:36:18,416 or maybe he wants a witness who dresses like a grown man. or maybe he wants a witness who dresses like a grown man.
1732 01:36:18,500 01:36:24,041 The cops in this city in the summer of 1968 were pigs. The cops in this city in the summer of 1968 were pigs.
1733 01:36:24,625 01:36:26,750 I wonder how many of them had kids in Vietnam. I wonder how many of them had kids in Vietnam.
1734 01:36:28,625 01:36:30,458 He's gonna take the stand, not you? He's gonna take the stand, not you?
1735 01:36:30,541 01:36:32,291 And we're okay with that? And we're okay with that?
1736 01:36:33,916 01:36:34,750 Abbie? Abbie?
1737 01:36:34,833 01:36:37,708 What did you mean, the last thing I want is to end the war? What did you mean, the last thing I want is to end the war?
1738 01:36:38,291 01:36:39,166 What? What?
1739 01:36:39,250 01:36:43,375 Centuries ago when the trial started, you said, why did I come to Chicago? Centuries ago when the trial started, you said, why did I come to Chicago?
1740 01:36:43,458 01:36:45,500 And I said, "To end the war." And I said, "To end the war."
1741 01:36:45,583 01:36:48,333 And then you turned to everyone and you said, And then you turned to everyone and you said,
1742 01:36:48,416 01:36:51,500 "The last thing he wants is to end the war." "The last thing he wants is to end the war."
1743 01:36:53,625 01:36:54,958 What did you mean by that? What did you mean by that?
1744 01:36:55,500 01:36:57,500 That you're making the most of your close-up. That you're making the most of your close-up.
1745 01:36:57,583 01:36:58,666 Yeah… Yeah…
1746 01:36:58,750 01:37:01,291 - No more war, no Abbie Hoffman. - What's your problem with me? - No more war, no Abbie Hoffman. - What's your problem with me?
1747 01:37:01,875 01:37:03,875 I wish people would stop asking me that. I wish people would stop asking me that.
1748 01:37:03,958 01:37:06,083 - Dave wouldn't want us to... - Answer it. - Dave wouldn't want us to... - Answer it.
1749 01:37:06,166 01:37:07,250 One time. One time.
1750 01:37:08,041 01:37:12,750 All right. My problem is that for the next 50 years All right. My problem is that for the next 50 years
1751 01:37:12,833 01:37:15,958 when people think of progressive politics, they're gonna think of you. when people think of progressive politics, they're gonna think of you.
1752 01:37:16,041 01:37:18,791 They're gonna think of you and your idiot followers They're gonna think of you and your idiot followers
1753 01:37:18,875 01:37:22,416 passing out daisies to soldiers and trying to levitate the Pentagon. passing out daisies to soldiers and trying to levitate the Pentagon.
1754 01:37:22,500 01:37:25,458 So they're not gonna think of equality or justice, So they're not gonna think of equality or justice,
1755 01:37:25,541 01:37:29,083 they're not gonna think of education or poverty or progress. they're not gonna think of education or poverty or progress.
1756 01:37:29,166 01:37:31,958 They're gonna think of a bunch of stoned, lost, They're gonna think of a bunch of stoned, lost,
1757 01:37:32,041 01:37:35,583 disrespectful, foul-mouthed, lawless losers, disrespectful, foul-mouthed, lawless losers,
1758 01:37:36,166 01:37:37,750 and so we'll lose elections. and so we'll lose elections.
1759 01:37:38,833 01:37:39,833 All because of me? All because of me?
1760 01:37:40,708 01:37:41,541 Yeah. Yeah.
1761 01:37:41,625 01:37:44,333 Winning elections is the first thing on your wish list? Winning elections is the first thing on your wish list?
1762 01:37:44,416 01:37:48,500 Equality, justice, education, poverty and progress, they're second? Equality, justice, education, poverty and progress, they're second?
1763 01:37:49,083 01:37:52,416 If you don't win elections, it doesn't matter what's second. If you don't win elections, it doesn't matter what's second.
1764 01:37:52,958 01:37:57,041 And it is astonishing to me that someone still has to explain that to you. And it is astonishing to me that someone still has to explain that to you.
1765 01:37:57,125 01:37:58,125 [Rennie] Okay. [Rennie] Okay.
1766 01:37:58,833 01:38:01,416 Okay, so, uh, Jerry was talking about standing... Okay, so, uh, Jerry was talking about standing...
1767 01:38:01,500 01:38:02,708 We don't have any money. We don't have any money.
1768 01:38:02,791 01:38:04,000 I'm sorry, what? I'm sorry, what?
1769 01:38:04,083 01:38:05,583 We don't have any money. We don't have any money.
1770 01:38:06,500 01:38:09,833 So I stage stunts, and cameras come and microphones come, So I stage stunts, and cameras come and microphones come,
1771 01:38:09,916 01:38:13,583 and it's astonishing that someone still has to explain that to you. and it's astonishing that someone still has to explain that to you.
1772 01:38:13,666 01:38:16,208 You're trading a cow for magic beans. You're trading a cow for magic beans.
1773 01:38:16,291 01:38:17,875 [Jerry] That ended up working. [Jerry] That ended up working.
1774 01:38:17,958 01:38:19,083 What? What?
1775 01:38:19,166 01:38:21,958 The magic beans. There was a giant up there. The magic beans. There was a giant up there.
1776 01:38:22,041 01:38:23,041 Oh, for fuck's... Oh, for fuck's...
1777 01:38:23,916 01:38:27,333 I can't remember what happened after that. The little boy may have gotten eaten... I can't remember what happened after that. The little boy may have gotten eaten...
1778 01:38:27,416 01:38:29,125 [John] The giant turned out to be nice. [John] The giant turned out to be nice.
1779 01:38:29,208 01:38:31,208 - [Jerry] Are you sure? - No. - [Jerry] Are you sure? - No.
1780 01:38:31,291 01:38:33,916 It's hard to believe the seven of us weren't able to end a war. It's hard to believe the seven of us weren't able to end a war.
1781 01:38:34,000 01:38:35,125 Let me ask you something… Let me ask you something…
1782 01:38:35,208 01:38:36,458 You guys should shake hands. You guys should shake hands.
1783 01:38:36,541 01:38:39,875 Think Chicago would've gone differently if Kennedy got the nomination? Think Chicago would've gone differently if Kennedy got the nomination?
1784 01:38:39,958 01:38:41,500 Do I… [chuckles] Do I… [chuckles]
1785 01:38:41,583 01:38:43,000 - Just… - [laughs] Yeah. - Just… - [laughs] Yeah.
1786 01:38:43,625 01:38:46,708 Yes, I do. I think the Irish guys would have sat down with Daley, Yes, I do. I think the Irish guys would have sat down with Daley,
1787 01:38:46,791 01:38:47,875 and… Yes. and… Yes.
1788 01:38:47,958 01:38:49,750 - I think so too. - Yeah? - I think so too. - Yeah?
1789 01:38:49,833 01:38:51,041 That's why I was wondering. That's why I was wondering.
1790 01:38:51,958 01:38:54,208 Weren't you just a little bit happy Weren't you just a little bit happy
1791 01:38:54,291 01:38:57,083 when the bullet ripped through his head? when the bullet ripped through his head?
1792 01:38:57,916 01:39:01,083 No Chicago, no Tom Hayden. No Chicago, no Tom Hayden.
1793 01:39:01,875 01:39:04,666 I was one of the pallbearers, you fucking animal! I was one of the pallbearers, you fucking animal!
1794 01:39:04,750 01:39:08,250 That's right, we're not goin' to jail because of what we did, That's right, we're not goin' to jail because of what we did,
1795 01:39:08,333 01:39:10,083 we're goin' to jail because of who we are! we're goin' to jail because of who we are!
1796 01:39:10,166 01:39:13,666 Think about that the next time you shrug off cultural revolution. Think about that the next time you shrug off cultural revolution.
1797 01:39:15,375 01:39:18,041 We define winning differently, you and I. We define winning differently, you and I.
1798 01:39:20,833 01:39:22,541 Bill, you should've seen it. Bill, you should've seen it.
1799 01:39:22,625 01:39:26,125 Tom tried to beat me up, but through sheer force of intellectual superiority... Tom tried to beat me up, but through sheer force of intellectual superiority...
1800 01:39:26,208 01:39:29,083 [Bill] Stop talking. Just stop talking. [Bill] Stop talking. Just stop talking.
1801 01:39:29,875 01:39:32,958 Foran's office turned this over tonight. Foran's office turned this over tonight.
1802 01:39:33,041 01:39:34,250 In discovery. In discovery.
1803 01:39:35,208 01:39:37,541 It was given to them by somebody in the crowd. It was given to them by somebody in the crowd.
1804 01:39:37,625 01:39:40,250 No foul play, there are affidavits. No foul play, there are affidavits.
1805 01:39:41,000 01:39:42,916 They really did just get this. They really did just get this.
1806 01:39:43,000 01:39:44,000 [Tom] What's on the tape? [Tom] What's on the tape?
1807 01:39:44,083 01:39:47,041 The sound of you starting the Chicago riot. The sound of you starting the Chicago riot.
1808 01:39:49,333 01:39:50,333 Hey. What? Hey. What?
1809 01:39:52,833 01:39:56,083 Somebody had a tape recorder by the bandshell. They got you saying it. Somebody had a tape recorder by the bandshell. They got you saying it.
1810 01:39:56,166 01:39:58,958 It's a clear tape. You can't take the stand. It's a clear tape. You can't take the stand.
1811 01:39:59,041 01:40:00,681 - I can handle Schultz and the tape. - No. - I can handle Schultz and the tape. - No.
1812 01:40:00,708 01:40:02,333 They'll play the tape anyway, right? They'll play the tape anyway, right?
1813 01:40:02,416 01:40:05,416 If you take the stand, they'll make you answer for it, and you can't. If you take the stand, they'll make you answer for it, and you can't.
1814 01:40:06,291 01:40:09,458 - They'd just cracked Rennie's head open. - So you started a riot. - They'd just cracked Rennie's head open. - So you started a riot.
1815 01:40:09,541 01:40:11,458 - Defense rests. - They had just cracked... - Defense rests. - They had just cracked...
1816 01:40:11,541 01:40:13,666 - If blood is gonna flow… - [Tom] Bill… - If blood is gonna flow… - [Tom] Bill…
1817 01:40:13,750 01:40:15,541 …let it flow all over the city. …let it flow all over the city.
1818 01:40:15,625 01:40:18,333 - They'd just clubbed Rennie. - Everybody kept their cool. - They'd just clubbed Rennie. - Everybody kept their cool.
1819 01:40:18,416 01:40:21,625 Abbie, Dave... Shit, this guy kept his cool. Abbie, Dave... Shit, this guy kept his cool.
1820 01:40:21,708 01:40:23,166 You're the one who lost it. You're the one who lost it.
1821 01:40:23,250 01:40:24,708 I can take the stand. I can take the stand.
1822 01:40:25,458 01:40:28,375 [Bill] You wanna hear what cross from Schultz will sound like? [Bill] You wanna hear what cross from Schultz will sound like?
1823 01:40:28,458 01:40:30,791 Sure. I'll show you what my answers will sound like. Sure. I'll show you what my answers will sound like.
1824 01:40:30,875 01:40:34,416 They called him a radical, they called him a criminal! They called him a radical, they called him a criminal!
1825 01:40:35,083 01:40:37,958 - They called him "Un-American." - [crowd cheering] - They called him "Un-American." - [crowd cheering]
1826 01:40:38,041 01:40:41,291 [Tom] First of all, it turned out the guy climbing the flagpole was a kid. [Tom] First of all, it turned out the guy climbing the flagpole was a kid.
1827 01:40:41,375 01:40:44,750 It seems like you guys attract an awful lot of underage minors. It seems like you guys attract an awful lot of underage minors.
1828 01:40:44,833 01:40:46,750 - Do you wanna object? - Objection. - Do you wanna object? - Objection.
1829 01:40:46,833 01:40:48,666 - Overruled. - [Tom] We attract the people - Overruled. - [Tom] We attract the people
1830 01:40:48,750 01:40:51,041 who have the most to lose by this war continuing. who have the most to lose by this war continuing.
1831 01:40:51,125 01:40:53,041 I'm glad you brought that up. Did you serve? I'm glad you brought that up. Did you serve?
1832 01:40:53,125 01:40:55,791 I wasn't drafted. I didn't try to evade the… I wasn't drafted. I didn't try to evade the…
1833 01:40:55,875 01:40:58,750 - I had a high number. - High number? But you didn't enlist? - I had a high number. - High number? But you didn't enlist?
1834 01:40:58,833 01:41:01,166 I did not volunteer to kill Vietnamese people, no. I did not volunteer to kill Vietnamese people, no.
1835 01:41:01,250 01:41:05,375 You testified you saw at least six policemen start to go after the man… You testified you saw at least six policemen start to go after the man…
1836 01:41:05,458 01:41:08,083 Sorry, the kid who was climbing the flagpole? Sorry, the kid who was climbing the flagpole?
1837 01:41:08,166 01:41:09,416 - Yes. - [Bill] It was dark. - Yes. - [Bill] It was dark.
1838 01:41:09,500 01:41:12,666 You were 100 yards away. What do you have, telescopic night-vision? You were 100 yards away. What do you have, telescopic night-vision?
1839 01:41:12,750 01:41:14,000 There were floodlights. There were floodlights.
1840 01:41:14,083 01:41:18,208 And when they called him anti-American, he said, "No, And when they called him anti-American, he said, "No,
1841 01:41:18,291 01:41:24,041 that ignominious distinction goes to those who mouth America's values that ignominious distinction goes to those who mouth America's values
1842 01:41:24,916 01:41:27,208 while breaking America's heart." while breaking America's heart."
1843 01:41:29,041 01:41:31,083 I'd like to introduce you now I'd like to introduce you now
1844 01:41:31,166 01:41:33,041 to Carl Oglesby of the SDS! to Carl Oglesby of the SDS!
1845 01:41:33,125 01:41:34,833 [officer] Come on! [officer] Come on!
1846 01:41:36,291 01:41:39,041 Hey, it's all right. He's a kid. We'll get him down. Hey, it's all right. He's a kid. We'll get him down.
1847 01:41:41,750 01:41:44,000 Isn't it great to be here in Chicago! Isn't it great to be here in Chicago!
1848 01:41:44,083 01:41:46,041 [all cheering] [all cheering]
1849 01:41:47,833 01:41:49,958 [officer] Come here. Son of a bitch! [officer] Come here. Son of a bitch!
1850 01:41:50,041 01:41:51,333 Hey, leave the kid alone! Hey, leave the kid alone!
1851 01:41:52,333 01:41:53,875 - [officer] Hold him! - [Rennie] Hey! - [officer] Hold him! - [Rennie] Hey!
1852 01:41:53,958 01:41:55,416 Jesus! What is wrong with… Jesus! What is wrong with…
1853 01:41:55,500 01:41:57,500 Rennie was trying to get the police off of the kid. Rennie was trying to get the police off of the kid.
1854 01:41:57,583 01:41:59,041 "Get the police off of the kid." "Get the police off of the kid."
1855 01:41:59,125 01:42:00,041 - [Tom] Yes. - How? - [Tom] Yes. - How?
1856 01:42:00,125 01:42:01,833 - [sighs] He was... - Grabbing them? - [sighs] He was... - Grabbing them?
1857 01:42:01,916 01:42:04,250 Get off of him! Hey! Get the... Get off of him! Hey! Get the...
1858 01:42:04,333 01:42:07,625 I'd like to say to the cops back there that we're allowed to be here. I'd like to say to the cops back there that we're allowed to be here.
1859 01:42:07,708 01:42:10,125 - We have permits for this. - And out of nowhere… - We have permits for this. - And out of nowhere…
1860 01:42:10,208 01:42:12,250 [grunts] [grunts]
1861 01:42:12,333 01:42:15,791 It was six armed police officers versus Rennie and a pocket protector. It was six armed police officers versus Rennie and a pocket protector.
1862 01:42:15,875 01:42:17,416 I can understand that response. I can understand that response.
1863 01:42:17,500 01:42:19,541 How about your response? Let's press play. How about your response? Let's press play.
1864 01:42:20,041 01:42:21,500 [John] We're gonna need medics… [John] We're gonna need medics…
1865 01:42:21,583 01:42:23,458 The whole world is watching. The whole world is watching.
1866 01:42:23,541 01:42:27,041 [crowd chanting] The whole world is watching! [crowd chanting] The whole world is watching!
1867 01:42:27,541 01:42:29,125 They've just beaten Rennie, Dave. They've just beaten Rennie, Dave.
1868 01:42:29,208 01:42:31,875 Listen. We can still get everyone out of here safely. Listen. We can still get everyone out of here safely.
1869 01:42:31,958 01:42:33,250 No, we can't. No, we can't.
1870 01:42:33,333 01:42:36,750 [all chanting] The whole world is watching! [all chanting] The whole world is watching!
1871 01:42:36,833 01:42:38,625 The whole world is watching! The whole world is watching!
1872 01:42:39,125 01:42:42,333 Dellinger tried to stop you from saying what you were about to say. Dellinger tried to stop you from saying what you were about to say.
1873 01:42:42,416 01:42:43,791 Tell them to stay calm. Tell them to stay calm.
1874 01:42:43,875 01:42:45,541 [crowd continues chanting] [crowd continues chanting]
1875 01:42:45,625 01:42:47,500 - No. - The whole world is watching! - No. - The whole world is watching!
1876 01:42:47,583 01:42:49,833 - Tom? - Did you tell 'em to stay calm? - Tom? - Did you tell 'em to stay calm?
1877 01:42:49,916 01:42:54,958 Wait, Rennie Davis has just been beaten by the police. Wait, Rennie Davis has just been beaten by the police.
1878 01:42:55,041 01:42:58,500 Rennie's skull has been cracked open. Rennie's skull has been cracked open.
1879 01:42:58,583 01:43:01,083 - Did you tell your crowd to stay calm... - Bill... - Did you tell your crowd to stay calm... - Bill...
1880 01:43:01,166 01:43:04,375 I'm Richard Schultz, Tom. And John Mitchell told me to win. I'm Richard Schultz, Tom. And John Mitchell told me to win.
1881 01:43:04,458 01:43:06,750 Did you tell your crowd to stay calm or... Did you tell your crowd to stay calm or...
1882 01:43:06,833 01:43:08,541 Yes. If blood is gonna flow… Yes. If blood is gonna flow…
1883 01:43:08,625 01:43:10,916 …let it flow all over the city! …let it flow all over the city!
1884 01:43:11,000 01:43:13,458 - God damn it! Tom! - [Tom] If gas is gonna be used, - God damn it! Tom! - [Tom] If gas is gonna be used,
1885 01:43:13,541 01:43:16,000 let it come down all over Chicago! let it come down all over Chicago!
1886 01:43:16,083 01:43:18,916 We're going to the convention! Let's get on the streets! We're going to the convention! Let's get on the streets!
1887 01:43:19,000 01:43:20,625 Get on the street! Get on the street!
1888 01:43:21,750 01:43:25,458 "If blood is gonna flow, let it flow all over the city." "If blood is gonna flow, let it flow all over the city."
1889 01:43:26,083 01:43:28,958 What was that, an order to start a peaceful demonstration? What was that, an order to start a peaceful demonstration?
1890 01:43:29,041 01:43:30,500 [crowd clamoring] [crowd clamoring]
1891 01:43:34,708 01:43:37,625 Once you had a moment to settle down, did you try and stop people? Once you had a moment to settle down, did you try and stop people?
1892 01:43:37,708 01:43:40,166 [tear gas canisters firing] [tear gas canisters firing]
1893 01:43:47,958 01:43:50,708 - Fuck you! - Get off him! - Fuck you! - Get off him!
1894 01:43:59,291 01:44:02,333 - You didn't try and stop anyone. - No. - You didn't try and stop anyone. - No.
1895 01:44:02,416 01:44:06,375 [Tom] The bridges! Head to the bridges! The bridges! [Tom] The bridges! Head to the bridges! The bridges!
1896 01:44:06,458 01:44:08,541 You told them to go to the footbridges. You told them to go to the footbridges.
1897 01:44:08,625 01:44:12,208 The ones able to make it out of the park without getting arrested or maimed. The ones able to make it out of the park without getting arrested or maimed.
1898 01:44:12,291 01:44:14,875 And those people, the ones you sent to the footbridges, And those people, the ones you sent to the footbridges,
1899 01:44:14,958 01:44:17,000 did they know what was on the other side? did they know what was on the other side?
1900 01:44:24,541 01:44:26,708 [officer] You are ordered to turn around immediately. [officer] You are ordered to turn around immediately.
1901 01:44:26,791 01:44:28,958 All access to the convention was blocked. All access to the convention was blocked.
1902 01:44:29,041 01:44:31,666 - [Tom] By an armored division. - The Illinois National Guard. - [Tom] By an armored division. - The Illinois National Guard.
1903 01:44:31,750 01:44:32,833 They're the good guys. They're the good guys.
1904 01:44:32,916 01:44:35,500 Jeeps fitted with concertina wire called Daley dozers. Jeeps fitted with concertina wire called Daley dozers.
1905 01:44:37,833 01:44:39,708 When did I stop being one of the good guys? When did I stop being one of the good guys?
1906 01:44:39,791 01:44:42,833 Let's find out. Were glass bottles thrown at the police? Let's find out. Were glass bottles thrown at the police?
1907 01:44:42,916 01:44:44,333 We want justice! We want justice!
1908 01:44:45,833 01:44:48,958 No, don't approach! Stay back! Stay… No, don't approach! Stay back! Stay…
1909 01:44:49,041 01:44:51,916 Some people threw bottles. Dave was trying to shut it down. Some people threw bottles. Dave was trying to shut it down.
1910 01:44:52,000 01:44:53,833 We were frustrated. All three footbridges... We were frustrated. All three footbridges...
1911 01:44:53,916 01:44:56,708 So you, Abbie, Jerry and 11 others eluded the police. So you, Abbie, Jerry and 11 others eluded the police.
1912 01:44:56,791 01:44:59,416 I wouldn't say we eluded them. We were fleeing from them. I wouldn't say we eluded them. We were fleeing from them.
1913 01:44:59,500 01:45:00,958 Found an unguarded bridge… Found an unguarded bridge…
1914 01:45:05,833 01:45:07,750 Now here's where things got weird. Now here's where things got weird.
1915 01:45:07,833 01:45:11,750 You, Abbie, Jerry and 11 others found the only way to the convention. You, Abbie, Jerry and 11 others found the only way to the convention.
1916 01:45:12,500 01:45:15,291 In the lobby of the Hilton, right next to the convention center, In the lobby of the Hilton, right next to the convention center,
1917 01:45:15,375 01:45:17,791 is a bar called the Haymarket Tavern. is a bar called the Haymarket Tavern.
1918 01:45:17,875 01:45:21,125 The Haymarket Tavern is a watering hole The Haymarket Tavern is a watering hole
1919 01:45:21,208 01:45:23,625 for Chicago's political class and their hookers. for Chicago's political class and their hookers.
1920 01:45:23,708 01:45:25,750 [crowd laughing] [crowd laughing]
1921 01:45:25,833 01:45:30,208 And the place was packed to watch Humphrey getting the nomination a mile away. And the place was packed to watch Humphrey getting the nomination a mile away.
1922 01:45:30,291 01:45:32,051 [man on TV] From the House of Representatives [man on TV] From the House of Representatives
1923 01:45:32,083 01:45:34,375 who represents the great state of Ohio, who represents the great state of Ohio,
1924 01:45:34,458 01:45:36,541 representative Wayne Hays to the stage. representative Wayne Hays to the stage.
1925 01:45:36,625 01:45:38,500 [Hays] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [Hays] Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
1926 01:45:38,583 01:45:41,250 The great state of Ohio, the Buckeye State... The great state of Ohio, the Buckeye State...
1927 01:45:41,333 01:45:42,583 [all] The Buckeye State! [all] The Buckeye State!
1928 01:45:43,500 01:45:47,625 One side of the Haymarket Tavern is a picture window with smoked glass. One side of the Haymarket Tavern is a picture window with smoked glass.
1929 01:45:47,708 01:45:49,916 You can't see inside it from the street. You can't see inside it from the street.
1930 01:45:50,875 01:45:52,500 You made it through the riot police, You made it through the riot police,
1931 01:45:52,583 01:45:55,666 tear gas, the National Guard, you're in sight of the convention center. tear gas, the National Guard, you're in sight of the convention center.
1932 01:45:58,125 01:45:59,416 [police radio chatter] [police radio chatter]
1933 01:46:02,000 01:46:05,166 - Where we got trapped. - What's another word for trapped? - Where we got trapped. - What's another word for trapped?
1934 01:46:06,250 01:46:08,333 We were trapped between the window and the police. We were trapped between the window and the police.
1935 01:46:08,416 01:46:09,750 What's another word for trapped? What's another word for trapped?
1936 01:46:12,208 01:46:13,250 Caught, right? Caught, right?
1937 01:46:17,000 01:46:19,875 Inside the bar, it's like the '60s never happened. Inside the bar, it's like the '60s never happened.
1938 01:46:19,958 01:46:23,375 Outside the bar, the '60s were being performed Outside the bar, the '60s were being performed
1939 01:46:23,458 01:46:25,250 for anyone who looked out of the window. for anyone who looked out of the window.
1940 01:46:26,041 01:46:27,583 Anyone know what a buckeye is? Anyone know what a buckeye is?
1941 01:46:27,666 01:46:28,916 - [man] Buckeye? - Yeah. - [man] Buckeye? - Yeah.
1942 01:46:29,000 01:46:31,375 [man] A buckeye is a nut. A poisonous nut. [man] A buckeye is a nut. A poisonous nut.
1943 01:46:31,458 01:46:32,666 Hey. Hey.
1944 01:46:33,333 01:46:35,875 [woman on TV] 94 votes for Vice President Humphrey. [woman on TV] 94 votes for Vice President Humphrey.
1945 01:46:35,958 01:46:38,625 Am I the only one who sees what's going on out there? Am I the only one who sees what's going on out there?
1946 01:46:38,708 01:46:42,166 And we see a cop do something you don't ever wanna see a cop do. And we see a cop do something you don't ever wanna see a cop do.
1947 01:46:47,875 01:46:52,875 '60s outside the bar, '50s inside the bar. '60s outside the bar, '50s inside the bar.
1948 01:46:53,583 01:46:57,000 And then, an unnecessary metaphor. And then, an unnecessary metaphor.
1949 01:46:57,083 01:46:58,083 It's a nut. It's a nut.
1950 01:46:58,708 01:47:00,125 - What? - A nut! - What? - A nut!
1951 01:47:00,208 01:47:02,541 [people scream] [people scream]
1952 01:47:02,625 01:47:04,125 Were you resisting arrest? Were you resisting arrest?
1953 01:47:04,208 01:47:07,375 - They pushed us through the window! - You overrun the riot police… - They pushed us through the window! - You overrun the riot police…
1954 01:47:07,458 01:47:08,958 Which is more than Rennie can say! Which is more than Rennie can say!
1955 01:47:09,041 01:47:13,041 Over 400 people admitted to area hospitals with severe injuries! Over 400 people admitted to area hospitals with severe injuries!
1956 01:47:13,125 01:47:17,916 They had armored vehicles and bayonets! They took off their name tags and badges! They had armored vehicles and bayonets! They took off their name tags and badges!
1957 01:47:18,000 01:47:21,416 We were trying to protest peacefully at the fucking convention! We were trying to protest peacefully at the fucking convention!
1958 01:47:25,416 01:47:27,416 - [grunts] - [police radio chatter] - [grunts] - [police radio chatter]
1959 01:47:35,708 01:47:37,375 [officer] Hands behind your back. [officer] Hands behind your back.
1960 01:47:39,416 01:47:40,458 Yeah. Yeah.
1961 01:47:43,000 01:47:44,791 [Bill] Who started the riot, Tom? [Bill] Who started the riot, Tom?
1962 01:47:51,000 01:47:52,000 Our… Our…
1963 01:47:53,208 01:47:54,208 What? What?
1964 01:47:56,000 01:47:57,000 Our… Our…
1965 01:47:58,500 01:47:59,541 Our blood. Our blood.
1966 01:48:01,083 01:48:03,708 [chuckles] "Our blood." [chuckles] "Our blood."
1967 01:48:04,875 01:48:06,791 "If our blood is gonna flow…" "If our blood is gonna flow…"
1968 01:48:07,916 01:48:09,583 You meant to say, You meant to say,
1969 01:48:10,541 01:48:14,000 "If our blood is gonna flow, then let it flow all over the city." "If our blood is gonna flow, then let it flow all over the city."
1970 01:48:14,083 01:48:15,500 You didn't mean the cops. You didn't mean the cops.
1971 01:48:15,583 01:48:19,125 You were saying, "If they're gonna beat us up, everyone should see it." You were saying, "If they're gonna beat us up, everyone should see it."
1972 01:48:24,541 01:48:25,791 Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ!
1973 01:48:25,875 01:48:28,875 You do this… He does this, it's a pattern. You do this… He does this, it's a pattern.
1974 01:48:28,958 01:48:31,250 Read his portion of the Port Huron Statement. Read his portion of the Port Huron Statement.
1975 01:48:31,333 01:48:36,250 He implies possessive pronouns and uses vague noun modifiers. He implies possessive pronouns and uses vague noun modifiers.
1976 01:48:38,333 01:48:40,250 You read the Port Huron Statement? You read the Port Huron Statement?
1977 01:48:40,333 01:48:42,000 I've read everything you've published. I've read everything you've published.
1978 01:48:44,000 01:48:44,833 I didn't know that. I didn't know that.
1979 01:48:44,916 01:48:46,333 You're a talented guy. You're a talented guy.
1980 01:48:47,000 01:48:49,291 - Except for the possessive pronouns. - I know. - Except for the possessive pronouns. - I know.
1981 01:48:49,375 01:48:51,000 And the vague noun modifiers. And the vague noun modifiers.
1982 01:49:01,000 01:49:02,583 Put Abbie on the stand instead. Put Abbie on the stand instead.
1983 01:49:06,166 01:49:09,000 [Hoffman] Would you state your full name for the record, please? [Hoffman] Would you state your full name for the record, please?
1984 01:49:09,583 01:49:10,583 It's Abbie. It's Abbie.
1985 01:49:11,208 01:49:12,208 [Hoffman] Last name. [Hoffman] Last name.
1986 01:49:12,833 01:49:14,875 My grandfather's name was Shaboysnakoff, My grandfather's name was Shaboysnakoff,
1987 01:49:14,958 01:49:18,041 but he was a Russian Jew protesting anti-Semitism, but he was a Russian Jew protesting anti-Semitism,
1988 01:49:18,125 01:49:21,291 so he was assigned a name that would sound like yours. so he was assigned a name that would sound like yours.
1989 01:49:22,083 01:49:23,875 What is your date of birth? What is your date of birth?
1990 01:49:23,958 01:49:26,375 Psychologically, 1960. Psychologically, 1960.
1991 01:49:26,458 01:49:29,250 [Hoffman] What were you doing until 1960? [Hoffman] What were you doing until 1960?
1992 01:49:29,333 01:49:32,500 Nothing. I believe it's called an American education. Nothing. I believe it's called an American education.
1993 01:49:32,583 01:49:33,708 [spectators laugh] [spectators laugh]
1994 01:49:33,791 01:49:36,666 Why don't we just proceed with the testimony? Why don't we just proceed with the testimony?
1995 01:49:36,750 01:49:37,916 Sure. Sure.
1996 01:49:38,000 01:49:40,875 Abbie, do you know why you're on trial here? Abbie, do you know why you're on trial here?
1997 01:49:42,166 01:49:45,041 We carried certain ideas across state lines. We carried certain ideas across state lines.
1998 01:49:46,208 01:49:49,125 Not machine guns or drugs or little girls. Not machine guns or drugs or little girls.
1999 01:49:49,208 01:49:50,416 Ideas. Ideas.
2000 01:49:51,458 01:49:54,166 When we crossed from New York to New Jersey to Pennsylvania When we crossed from New York to New Jersey to Pennsylvania
2001 01:49:54,250 01:49:57,791 to Ohio to Illinois, we had certain ideas. to Ohio to Illinois, we had certain ideas.
2002 01:49:57,875 01:49:59,208 And for that, And for that,
2003 01:50:00,083 01:50:03,375 we were gassed, beaten, arrested and put on trial. we were gassed, beaten, arrested and put on trial.
2004 01:50:03,458 01:50:04,333 Okay. Okay.
2005 01:50:04,416 01:50:09,208 In 1861, Lincoln said in his inaugural address, In 1861, Lincoln said in his inaugural address,
2006 01:50:09,958 01:50:12,708 "When the people shall grow weary of their constitutional right "When the people shall grow weary of their constitutional right
2007 01:50:12,791 01:50:13,958 to amend their government, to amend their government,
2008 01:50:14,041 01:50:16,625 they shall exert their revolutionary right they shall exert their revolutionary right
2009 01:50:16,708 01:50:20,666 to dismember and overthrow that government." to dismember and overthrow that government."
2010 01:50:21,583 01:50:25,125 And if Lincoln had given that speech in Lincoln Park last summer, And if Lincoln had given that speech in Lincoln Park last summer,
2011 01:50:25,208 01:50:27,416 he'd be put on trial with the rest of us. he'd be put on trial with the rest of us.
2012 01:50:27,500 01:50:31,958 So how do you overthrow or dismember, as you say, your government peacefully? So how do you overthrow or dismember, as you say, your government peacefully?
2013 01:50:32,833 01:50:35,208 In this country, we do it every four years. In this country, we do it every four years.
2014 01:50:37,250 01:50:38,291 That's all. That's all.
2015 01:50:47,458 01:50:53,083 [chuckles] So Chicago was just a massive voter registration drive. [chuckles] So Chicago was just a massive voter registration drive.
2016 01:50:53,166 01:50:55,916 [chuckles] Yeah. [chuckles] Yeah.
2017 01:50:56,500 01:50:59,083 Did you hear the tape we played of Tom Hayden? Did you hear the tape we played of Tom Hayden?
2018 01:50:59,166 01:51:00,708 - Yes. - You heard the tape? - Yes. - You heard the tape?
2019 01:51:00,791 01:51:03,791 Did you hear Mr. Hayden give an instruction to his people Did you hear Mr. Hayden give an instruction to his people
2020 01:51:03,875 01:51:05,041 to take to the streets? to take to the streets?
2021 01:51:05,125 01:51:09,333 "His people"? Hayden's not a Mafia don and neither am I. "His people"? Hayden's not a Mafia don and neither am I.
2022 01:51:09,416 01:51:10,500 Did you hear him say, Did you hear him say,
2023 01:51:10,583 01:51:13,875 "If blood is gonna flow, let it flow all over the city"? "If blood is gonna flow, let it flow all over the city"?
2024 01:51:13,958 01:51:17,291 [chuckles] The beginning of that sentence was supposed to be… [chuckles] The beginning of that sentence was supposed to be…
2025 01:51:18,791 01:51:20,250 Yes. Yes, I did. Yes. Yes, I did.
2026 01:51:21,583 01:51:22,625 What'd you think of that? What'd you think of that?
2027 01:51:25,625 01:51:28,958 I think Tom Hayden is a badass of an American patriot. I think Tom Hayden is a badass of an American patriot.
2028 01:51:30,916 01:51:34,625 I didn't ask what you thought of the man, I asked of his instruction of the crowd. I didn't ask what you thought of the man, I asked of his instruction of the crowd.
2029 01:51:35,250 01:51:38,291 I've also heard Tom Hayden say, "Let's end the war," I've also heard Tom Hayden say, "Let's end the war,"
2030 01:51:38,375 01:51:40,250 but nobody stopped shooting. but nobody stopped shooting.
2031 01:51:40,916 01:51:44,958 You can do anything to anything by taking it out of context, Mr. Schultz. You can do anything to anything by taking it out of context, Mr. Schultz.
2032 01:51:45,041 01:51:48,916 "If blood is gonna flow"? How do you take that out of context? "If blood is gonna flow"? How do you take that out of context?
2033 01:51:49,958 01:51:54,916 A guy once said, "I am come to set a man at variance with his father A guy once said, "I am come to set a man at variance with his father
2034 01:51:55,000 01:51:58,250 and the daughter against her mother." You know who said it? and the daughter against her mother." You know who said it?
2035 01:51:59,083 01:52:00,083 Jerry Rubin. Jerry Rubin.
2036 01:52:00,125 01:52:01,708 [chuckles] Yes. [chuckles] Yes.
2037 01:52:02,375 01:52:03,375 No. No.
2038 01:52:03,875 01:52:05,333 It was Jesus Christ. It was Jesus Christ.
2039 01:52:05,416 01:52:07,416 Matthew 10:35. Matthew 10:35.
2040 01:52:07,500 01:52:11,000 And it sure sounds like he's telling kids to kill their parents. And it sure sounds like he's telling kids to kill their parents.
2041 01:52:11,750 01:52:15,083 Until you read Matthew 10:34 and 10:36. Until you read Matthew 10:34 and 10:36.
2042 01:52:15,958 01:52:16,791 Do you have... Do you have...
2043 01:52:16,875 01:52:19,791 He'd just seen his best friend get hit in the head with a nightstick. He'd just seen his best friend get hit in the head with a nightstick.
2044 01:52:20,583 01:52:23,708 The police, Mr. Schultz, whose people are they? The police, Mr. Schultz, whose people are they?
2045 01:52:24,291 01:52:27,000 - Do you have contempt for your government? - Do I... - Do you have contempt for your government? - Do I...
2046 01:52:27,083 01:52:30,416 Yeah, do you have contempt for your government? Yeah, do you have contempt for your government?
2047 01:52:31,750 01:52:35,708 I think the institutions of our democracy are wonderful things I think the institutions of our democracy are wonderful things
2048 01:52:35,791 01:52:38,791 that right now are populated by some terrible people. that right now are populated by some terrible people.
2049 01:52:38,875 01:52:40,416 Please answer the question. Please answer the question.
2050 01:52:41,125 01:52:42,250 Tell me again? Tell me again?
2051 01:52:48,916 01:52:50,625 Do you have contempt for your government? Do you have contempt for your government?
2052 01:52:51,250 01:52:54,875 I'll tell you, it's nothing compared to the contempt my government has for me. I'll tell you, it's nothing compared to the contempt my government has for me.
2053 01:52:54,958 01:52:58,833 We've heard testimony from 27 witnesses, under oath, We've heard testimony from 27 witnesses, under oath,
2054 01:52:58,916 01:53:02,750 that say you hoped for a confrontation with the police, that say you hoped for a confrontation with the police,
2055 01:53:02,833 01:53:06,166 that your plans for the convention were designed specifically that your plans for the convention were designed specifically
2056 01:53:06,250 01:53:08,666 to draw the police into a confrontation. to draw the police into a confrontation.
2057 01:53:08,750 01:53:11,625 If I'd known it was gonna be the first wish of mine that came true, If I'd known it was gonna be the first wish of mine that came true,
2058 01:53:11,708 01:53:12,875 I would've aimed higher. I would've aimed higher.
2059 01:53:12,958 01:53:15,000 It's a yes or no question. When you came to Chicago, It's a yes or no question. When you came to Chicago,
2060 01:53:15,083 01:53:18,583 were you hoping for a confrontation with the police? were you hoping for a confrontation with the police?
2061 01:53:29,833 01:53:31,541 I'm concerned you have to think about it. I'm concerned you have to think about it.
2062 01:53:32,458 01:53:34,125 Give me a moment, would you, friend? Give me a moment, would you, friend?
2063 01:53:34,750 01:53:37,375 I've never been on trial for my thoughts before. I've never been on trial for my thoughts before.
2064 01:54:04,958 01:54:05,958 [door opens] [door opens]
2065 01:54:21,583 01:54:23,375 [door opens] [door opens]
2066 01:54:23,458 01:54:24,666 [bailiff] All rise. [bailiff] All rise.
2067 01:54:26,708 01:54:28,750 69 CR 180, 69 CR 180,
2068 01:54:28,833 01:54:32,166 United States of America v. David Dellinger et al. United States of America v. David Dellinger et al.
2069 01:54:42,875 01:54:46,458 The law requires that before sentencing, The law requires that before sentencing,
2070 01:54:46,541 01:54:51,458 I allow the defendant or defendants to make a statement to the court. I allow the defendant or defendants to make a statement to the court.
2071 01:54:51,541 01:54:56,458 I've advised defense counsel that the court will allow one defendant I've advised defense counsel that the court will allow one defendant
2072 01:54:56,541 01:54:59,791 to speak for the group, and I've been advised to speak for the group, and I've been advised
2073 01:54:59,875 01:55:01,791 the group has chosen Mr. Hayden. the group has chosen Mr. Hayden.
2074 01:55:01,875 01:55:04,291 - Is that right? - Yes, sir. - Is that right? - Yes, sir.
2075 01:55:04,791 01:55:08,875 Mr. Hayden, in spite of your actions during the convention, Mr. Hayden, in spite of your actions during the convention,
2076 01:55:09,583 01:55:13,125 you are the one defendant who has shown, during this trial, you are the one defendant who has shown, during this trial,
2077 01:55:13,791 01:55:17,875 respect for this court and for this country, respect for this court and for this country,
2078 01:55:17,958 01:55:20,416 and remorse for those actions. and remorse for those actions.
2079 01:55:20,500 01:55:23,291 I truly believe… And I mean this. I truly believe… And I mean this.
2080 01:55:24,625 01:55:30,791 I truly believe that one day you will be a very productive part of our system. I truly believe that one day you will be a very productive part of our system.
2081 01:55:31,666 01:55:36,916 I'd like you to make your statement brief and without political content of any kind. I'd like you to make your statement brief and without political content of any kind.
2082 01:55:37,625 01:55:39,625 If you make your statement brief, If you make your statement brief,
2083 01:55:39,708 01:55:44,375 if you make it respectful, if you make it remorseful and to the point, if you make it respectful, if you make it remorseful and to the point,
2084 01:55:45,208 01:55:49,166 I will look favorably upon that when administering my sentence. I will look favorably upon that when administering my sentence.
2085 01:55:51,291 01:55:53,208 Do you understand what I've just said? Do you understand what I've just said?
2086 01:55:55,291 01:55:56,375 Mr. Hayden? Mr. Hayden?
2087 01:55:57,208 01:55:58,208 [Tom] Yes, sir. [Tom] Yes, sir.
2088 01:55:59,041 01:56:01,958 - You'll look favorably in sentencing. - Yes. - You'll look favorably in sentencing. - Yes.
2089 01:56:03,666 01:56:07,083 If I make my statement respectful and remorseful. If I make my statement respectful and remorseful.
2090 01:56:07,166 01:56:08,166 Yes. Yes.
2091 01:56:11,583 01:56:13,833 I'm sorry, Your Honor, what was the third one? I'm sorry, Your Honor, what was the third one?
2092 01:56:14,458 01:56:15,458 Brief. Brief.
2093 01:56:15,958 01:56:16,958 Brief. Brief.
2094 01:56:19,625 01:56:22,958 If I do these things, my government will look favorably on me. If I do these things, my government will look favorably on me.
2095 01:56:23,041 01:56:24,250 You understand? You understand?
2096 01:56:25,250 01:56:26,250 Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
2097 01:56:27,916 01:56:29,166 Please begin. Please begin.
2098 01:56:30,791 01:56:31,791 Okay. Okay.
2099 01:56:33,708 01:56:36,458 Your Honor, since this trial began, Your Honor, since this trial began,
2100 01:56:38,125 01:56:42,416 4,752 US troops have been killed in Vietnam. 4,752 US troops have been killed in Vietnam.
2101 01:56:45,125 01:56:48,166 And the following… are their names. And the following… are their names.
2102 01:56:49,666 01:56:52,833 - [spectators murmuring] - "Private First Class Dennis Walter Kipp, - [spectators murmuring] - "Private First Class Dennis Walter Kipp,
2103 01:56:52,916 01:56:54,458 18 years old." 18 years old."
2104 01:56:55,041 01:56:58,458 - "Private Eric Alan Bosch, 21 years old." - [gavel bangs] - "Private Eric Alan Bosch, 21 years old." - [gavel bangs]
2105 01:56:58,541 01:56:59,541 [Hoffman] Mr. Kunstler! [Hoffman] Mr. Kunstler!
2106 01:56:59,625 01:57:02,958 "Lance Corporal Robert Earl Ellis, 19 years old." "Lance Corporal Robert Earl Ellis, 19 years old."
2107 01:57:03,041 01:57:06,500 Mr. Kunstler! He will not read Mr. Kunstler! He will not read
2108 01:57:06,583 01:57:09,125 5,000 names for the record! 5,000 names for the record!
2109 01:57:09,208 01:57:12,375 "Robert Ford, 21 years old." "Robert Ford, 21 years old."
2110 01:57:12,458 01:57:13,458 There will be order! There will be order!
2111 01:57:13,541 01:57:16,416 [Tom] "Staff Sergeant David Cruz Chavez, 31 years old." [Tom] "Staff Sergeant David Cruz Chavez, 31 years old."
2112 01:57:17,000 01:57:21,083 "Lance Corporal Douglas W. Jackson, 19 years old." "Lance Corporal Douglas W. Jackson, 19 years old."
2113 01:57:21,166 01:57:22,875 [Hoffman] There will be order! [Hoffman] There will be order!
2114 01:57:22,958 01:57:27,250 [Tom] "Private First Class William Melvin Johnson, 20 years old." [Tom] "Private First Class William Melvin Johnson, 20 years old."
2115 01:57:27,333 01:57:28,583 There will be order! There will be order!
2116 01:57:28,666 01:57:31,125 - "Lance Corporal Robert Ryan Hammond…" - There will be order! - "Lance Corporal Robert Ryan Hammond…" - There will be order!
2117 01:57:31,208 01:57:32,291 "…19 years old." "…19 years old."
2118 01:57:32,375 01:57:35,500 "Corporal Philip Lawrence Jewell, 20 years old." "Corporal Philip Lawrence Jewell, 20 years old."
2119 01:57:35,583 01:57:40,875 - [Hoffman] He will not read 4,500 names! - "Sergeant Brian John Morrow, 19 years." - [Hoffman] He will not read 4,500 names! - "Sergeant Brian John Morrow, 19 years."
2120 01:57:40,958 01:57:45,458 "Master Sergeant James Warren Finsel, 36 years old." "Master Sergeant James Warren Finsel, 36 years old."
2121 01:57:45,541 01:57:47,125 - There will be order! - [all cheering] - There will be order! - [all cheering]
2122 01:57:47,208 01:57:50,791 "Technical Sergeant James William Greenwood, 33 years old." "Technical Sergeant James William Greenwood, 33 years old."
2123 01:57:52,125 01:57:56,125 "Specialist Fourth Class Edward B. Cribb, 21 years old." "Specialist Fourth Class Edward B. Cribb, 21 years old."
2124 01:57:56,916 01:58:00,416 "Corporal David Michael King, 20 years old." "Corporal David Michael King, 20 years old."
2125 01:58:01,083 01:58:03,291 - "Specialist Keith Harold Reitz…" - [Hoffman] Order! - "Specialist Keith Harold Reitz…" - [Hoffman] Order!
2126 01:58:04,208 01:58:05,625 "…21 years old." "…21 years old."
2127 01:58:06,250 01:58:07,625 [Hoffman] Put that down! [Hoffman] Put that down!
2128 01:58:07,708 01:58:12,208 "Private First Class James Clinton DeFranco, 19 years old." "Private First Class James Clinton DeFranco, 19 years old."
2129 01:58:13,291 01:58:17,166 "Corporal Kenneth Joe Auston, 18 years old." "Corporal Kenneth Joe Auston, 18 years old."
2130 01:58:18,375 01:58:22,583 "First Lieutenant Donald Bryan Mancill, 24 years old." "First Lieutenant Donald Bryan Mancill, 24 years old."
2131 01:58:24,250 01:58:25,583 What are you doin'? What are you doin'?
2132 01:58:27,000 01:58:28,375 Respect for the fallen. Respect for the fallen.
2133 01:58:29,916 01:58:31,583 Let's show 'em some respect, sir. Let's show 'em some respect, sir.
2134 01:58:31,666 01:58:32,833 [Tom] "…25 years old." [Tom] "…25 years old."
2135 01:58:35,000 01:58:39,083 "Private First Class Wayne Karl Woodland, 20 years old." "Private First Class Wayne Karl Woodland, 20 years old."
2136 01:58:39,166 01:58:43,666 "Staff Sergeant Thomas Anthony Scibelli, 26 years old." "Staff Sergeant Thomas Anthony Scibelli, 26 years old."
2137 01:58:44,875 01:58:49,166 "Private First Class Richard Henry Durant, 20 years old." "Private First Class Richard Henry Durant, 20 years old."
2138 01:58:49,250 01:58:53,333 "Lance Corporal Harry Earl Farmer, 25 years old." "Lance Corporal Harry Earl Farmer, 25 years old."
2139 01:58:54,083 01:58:58,375 "Corporal Daniel Alan Frey, 19 years old." "Corporal Daniel Alan Frey, 19 years old."
2140 01:58:58,875 01:59:02,875 "Second Lieutenant Franklin Theodore James, 26 years old…" "Second Lieutenant Franklin Theodore James, 26 years old…"
2141 02:00:13,458 02:00:15,291 - [applause resumes] - "…24 years old." - [applause resumes] - "…24 years old."
2142 02:00:15,375 02:00:16,375 Sit down! Sit down!
2143 02:00:16,458 02:00:19,541 "Sergeant Dale Frank Olmstead, 20 years old." "Sergeant Dale Frank Olmstead, 20 years old."
2144 02:00:19,625 02:00:20,625 [gavel banging] [gavel banging]
2145 02:00:21,250 02:00:23,125 [crowd] The whole world is watching! [crowd] The whole world is watching!
2146 02:00:23,625 02:00:26,666 ["Hear My Voice" by Celeste playing] ["Hear My Voice" by Celeste playing]
2147 02:00:36,916 02:00:43,750 ♪ Hear my voice ♪ ♪ Hear my voice ♪
2148 02:00:43,833 02:00:50,208 ♪ Hear my dreams ♪ ♪ Hear my dreams ♪
2149 02:00:50,291 02:00:53,041 ♪ Let us make a world ♪ ♪ Let us make a world ♪
2150 02:00:56,916 02:01:01,000 ♪ In which I believe ♪ ♪ In which I believe ♪
2151 02:01:04,375 02:01:11,125 ♪ Hear my words ♪ ♪ Hear my words ♪
2152 02:01:11,208 02:01:17,500 ♪ Hear my cry ♪ ♪ Hear my cry ♪
2153 02:01:17,583 02:01:22,000 ♪ Let me see a change ♪ ♪ Let me see a change ♪
2154 02:01:24,416 02:01:29,250 ♪ Through these eyes ♪ ♪ Through these eyes ♪
2155 02:01:34,500 02:01:40,291 ♪ You may think I won't be heard ♪ ♪ You may think I won't be heard ♪
2156 02:01:40,375 02:01:44,083 ♪ Still I'll raise this hand ♪ ♪ Still I'll raise this hand ♪
2157 02:01:44,166 02:01:47,666 ♪ Spread this word ♪ ♪ Spread this word ♪
2158 02:01:47,750 02:01:54,333 ♪ These words of fire Of hope and desire ♪ ♪ These words of fire Of hope and desire ♪
2159 02:01:54,416 02:01:58,833 ♪ And I'll let them free ♪ ♪ And I'll let them free ♪
2160 02:02:02,583 02:02:09,500 ♪ Hear my voice ♪ ♪ Hear my voice ♪
2161 02:02:16,375 02:02:23,333 ♪ Hear my dreams ♪ ♪ Hear my dreams ♪
2162 02:02:29,541 02:02:33,958 ♪ Let us make a world ♪ ♪ Let us make a world ♪
2163 02:02:36,291 02:02:40,000 ♪ In which we believe ♪ ♪ In which we believe ♪
2164 02:02:43,083 02:02:47,250 ♪ In which we believe ♪ ♪ In which we believe ♪
2165 02:02:54,166 02:03:00,833 ♪ Hear my words ♪ ♪ Hear my words ♪
2166 02:03:00,916 02:03:06,583 ♪ Hear my choice ♪ ♪ Hear my choice ♪
2167 02:03:11,833 02:03:18,791 ♪ Hear my voice ♪ ♪ Hear my voice ♪
2168 02:03:21,041 02:03:24,041 [eclectic instrumental music playing] [eclectic instrumental music playing]
2169 02:07:39,333 02:07:45,625 ♪ Hear my voice ♪ ♪ Hear my voice ♪
2170 02:07:46,250 02:07:52,000 ♪ Hear my dreams ♪ ♪ Hear my dreams ♪
2171 02:07:53,041 02:07:59,916 ♪ Hear my pain ♪ ♪ Hear my pain ♪
2172 02:08:00,000 02:08:05,916 ♪ Hear my screams ♪ ♪ Hear my screams ♪
2173 02:08:06,708 02:08:10,291 ♪ Hear my voice ♪ ♪ Hear my voice ♪
2174 02:08:10,375 02:08:13,625 ♪ Hear my screams ♪ ♪ Hear my screams ♪
2175 02:08:13,708 02:08:19,708 ♪ Hear my voice ♪ ♪ Hear my voice ♪
2176 02:08:20,458 02:08:23,250 ♪ Hear my heart ♪ ♪ Hear my heart ♪
2177 02:08:23,916 02:08:27,458 ♪ Hear my screams ♪ ♪ Hear my screams ♪
2178 02:08:28,208 02:08:33,375 ♪ Hear, hear me ♪ ♪ Hear, hear me ♪
2179 02:08:33,458 02:08:38,541 ♪ Hear my voice ♪ ♪ Hear my voice ♪
2180 02:08:40,250 02:08:44,541 ♪ Hear my screams ♪ ♪ Hear my screams ♪
2181 02:08:47,083 02:08:51,250 ♪ Hear my voice ♪ ♪ Hear my voice ♪