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1 00:00:16,516 00:00:18,518 ["Still Not A Player" playing] ["Still Not A Player" playing]
2 00:00:22,063 00:00:24,733 I do remember being in Vegas with him. I do remember being in Vegas with him.
3 00:00:24,816 00:00:26,234 It was on! It was on!
4 00:00:26,317 00:00:28,611 The party was starting right away. The party was starting right away.
5 00:00:29,362 00:00:32,782 [all] Mixin' it up. Bring on the shookers! [all] Mixin' it up. Bring on the shookers!
6 00:00:32,866 00:00:34,701 That's whores and sluts, you're gonna learn. That's whores and sluts, you're gonna learn.
7 00:00:34,784 00:00:36,828 - That's smart hookers. - Yeah. - That's smart hookers. - Yeah.
8 00:00:36,911 00:00:37,911 Wow. Wow.
9 00:00:41,416 00:00:44,210 [Electra] One thing about Dennis: he had to escape. [Electra] One thing about Dennis: he had to escape.
10 00:00:44,294 00:00:46,880 He'd like to go out. He liked to go to clubs. He'd like to go out. He liked to go to clubs.
11 00:00:47,881 00:00:51,134 We'd go to his favorite restaurant, then we'd go to a nightclub, We'd go to his favorite restaurant, then we'd go to a nightclub,
12 00:00:51,217 00:00:53,094 then we'd go to after hours. It didn't stop. then we'd go to after hours. It didn't stop.
13 00:00:56,181 00:00:58,224 It's all about getting your groove on, right? It's all about getting your groove on, right?
14 00:00:58,767 00:01:02,687 It was definitely an occupational hazard to be Dennis' girlfriend. [laughs] It was definitely an occupational hazard to be Dennis' girlfriend. [laughs]
15 00:01:04,355 00:01:05,648 He was wild. He was wild.
16 00:01:08,943 00:01:11,154 [all singing] ♪ It's Kamikaze time ♪ [all singing] ♪ It's Kamikaze time ♪
17 00:01:11,237 00:01:13,406 ♪ It's time to blow your mind ♪ ♪ It's time to blow your mind ♪
18 00:01:13,490 00:01:15,742 ♪ It's Kamikaze time ♪ ♪ It's Kamikaze time ♪
19 00:01:15,825 00:01:17,285 Suck it down, motherfucker! Suck it down, motherfucker!
20 00:01:17,368 00:01:18,745 [all laugh] [all laugh]
21 00:01:19,954 00:01:23,541 But to be honest, I didn't realize what the team's schedule was. But to be honest, I didn't realize what the team's schedule was.
22 00:01:23,625 00:01:25,710 I didn't know he took a detour. I didn't know he took a detour.
23 00:01:32,300 00:01:34,052 [interviewer] Did Dennis come back on time? [interviewer] Did Dennis come back on time?
24 00:01:34,135 00:01:35,512 Mmm-mmm. Mmm-mmm.
25 00:01:35,595 00:01:39,099 He didn't come back on time. We had to go get his ass out of bed. He didn't come back on time. We had to go get his ass out of bed.
26 00:01:39,182 00:01:43,394 And I'm not gonna say what's in his bed and where he was and blah, blah, blah. And I'm not gonna say what's in his bed and where he was and blah, blah, blah.
27 00:01:44,104 00:01:46,898 There's a knock on the door. It's Michael Jordan, There's a knock on the door. It's Michael Jordan,
28 00:01:46,981 00:01:48,358 and I hid. and I hid.
29 00:01:48,858 00:01:52,904 [stammers] I didn't want him to see me like that, so I... [laughs] [stammers] I didn't want him to see me like that, so I... [laughs]
30 00:01:52,987 00:01:55,865 I'm just hiding behind the couch with covers over me. I'm just hiding behind the couch with covers over me.
31 00:01:55,949 00:01:58,701 "Come on, you... We gotta get to practice." "Come on, you... We gotta get to practice."
32 00:01:59,285 00:02:01,412 Dennis came back and joined the team. Dennis came back and joined the team.
33 00:02:02,539 00:02:04,541 And that's the way it went that year. And that's the way it went that year.
34 00:02:07,627 00:02:08,813 [Jackson] I wanted to tell you... [Jackson] I wanted to tell you...
35 00:02:08,837 00:02:10,922 Did you get your body through anything today, Dennis? Did you get your body through anything today, Dennis?
36 00:02:11,005 00:02:15,051 You gotta put your body through things so the muscles have a memorization, too. You gotta put your body through things so the muscles have a memorization, too.
37 00:02:16,219 00:02:20,974 His body made it here, Phil. Don't beg for too much. [laughs] His body made it here, Phil. Don't beg for too much. [laughs]
38 00:02:22,475 00:02:24,811 [Rodman] Michael and Scottie accepted me for who I am. [Rodman] Michael and Scottie accepted me for who I am.
39 00:02:25,436 00:02:30,150 They say, "You know what? He does what he does, but he cares a lot." They say, "You know what? He does what he does, but he cares a lot."
40 00:02:31,484 00:02:33,319 I go party hard, but I work hard. I go party hard, but I work hard.
41 00:02:34,404 00:02:38,241 I think that we get along so well because we wanna win. We wanna win a championship. I think that we get along so well because we wanna win. We wanna win a championship.
42 00:02:43,746 00:02:44,914 Kamikaze. Kamikaze.
43 00:02:48,960 00:02:50,378 [commentator 1] A spectacular move! [commentator 1] A spectacular move!
44 00:02:50,461 00:02:51,963 [commentator 2] The game's over! [commentator 2] The game's over!
45 00:02:52,046 00:02:54,382 [commentator 3] Chicago Stadium is going wild! [commentator 3] Chicago Stadium is going wild!
46 00:02:56,342 00:02:58,782 [Jackson] First of all, there's no backstabbing going on here. [Jackson] First of all, there's no backstabbing going on here.
47 00:02:58,845 00:03:00,263 It's time for me to move on. It's time for me to move on.
48 00:03:00,346 00:03:02,746 [Krause] This will be Phil's last year as coach of the Bulls. [Krause] This will be Phil's last year as coach of the Bulls.
49 00:03:04,893 00:03:07,413 - [man 1] Are the expectations too high? - [man 2] Where do we go from here? - [man 1] Are the expectations too high? - [man 2] Where do we go from here?
50 00:03:07,437 00:03:10,231 [woman] The only question: how long can it last? [woman] The only question: how long can it last?
51 00:03:52,732 00:03:56,444 [Jordan] After his vacation, Dennis comes back to practice. [Jordan] After his vacation, Dennis comes back to practice.
52 00:03:57,237 00:04:00,448 Phil's now... His whole motive is to get Dennis back in shape. Phil's now... His whole motive is to get Dennis back in shape.
53 00:04:01,950 00:04:04,535 So, we start this drill called the Indian drill. So, we start this drill called the Indian drill.
54 00:04:05,578 00:04:07,205 Everybody starts running in a line. Everybody starts running in a line.
55 00:04:08,623 00:04:12,418 And Phil blows a whistle. Whoever's at the back, run to the front. And Phil blows a whistle. Whoever's at the back, run to the front.
56 00:04:12,502 00:04:16,589 Now, you can't stop. Whoever's in front controls the pace. Now, you can't stop. Whoever's in front controls the pace.
57 00:04:16,673 00:04:19,217 So, I'm saying, "Fuck, this is kind of messed up," So, I'm saying, "Fuck, this is kind of messed up,"
58 00:04:19,300 00:04:23,054 because now I'm getting caught up in "Dennis getting in shape drill," because now I'm getting caught up in "Dennis getting in shape drill,"
59 00:04:23,137 00:04:25,056 when in essence, I hadn't taken a vacation. when in essence, I hadn't taken a vacation.
60 00:04:25,139 00:04:29,102 So I tell everybody in that group, "Look, whoever gets in the front of that row, So I tell everybody in that group, "Look, whoever gets in the front of that row,
61 00:04:29,185 00:04:31,020 slow down to a fucking walk. slow down to a fucking walk.
62 00:04:31,104 00:04:34,107 We just gonna jog and jog and jog and jog." We just gonna jog and jog and jog and jog."
63 00:04:34,607 00:04:41,572 [laughs] So, Steve Kerr and Jud Buechler, they all get to the line, we just slowly, [laughs] So, Steve Kerr and Jud Buechler, they all get to the line, we just slowly,
64 00:04:41,656 00:04:44,867 we just running, slowly just running, and then, we just running, slowly just running, and then,
65 00:04:44,951 00:04:46,286 Dennis takes off. Boom! Dennis takes off. Boom!
66 00:04:46,369 00:04:47,704 Now, he blows the whistle. Now, he blows the whistle.
67 00:04:47,787 00:04:51,666 Now, we cannot stop until we get back in front of Dennis. Now, we cannot stop until we get back in front of Dennis.
68 00:04:51,749 00:04:54,127 It took us four laps to catch up to Dennis. It took us four laps to catch up to Dennis.
69 00:04:54,210 00:04:57,547 It was in his psyche. He needed to get away. It was in his psyche. He needed to get away.
70 00:04:57,630 00:04:59,841 But, in all honesty, Dennis was always there. But, in all honesty, Dennis was always there.
71 00:04:59,924 00:05:01,592 He was always on point. He was always on point.
72 00:05:01,676 00:05:03,386 - [indistinct chatter] - [man laughs] - [indistinct chatter] - [man laughs]
73 00:05:06,097 00:05:09,434 [Rodman] Phil realized that I was different, man. [Rodman] Phil realized that I was different, man.
74 00:05:09,934 00:05:13,354 Phil knew me so well, 'cause he knew I... [talks gibberish] Phil knew me so well, 'cause he knew I... [talks gibberish]
75 00:05:14,355 00:05:17,066 So much shit I was doing. But I had to get my head right. So much shit I was doing. But I had to get my head right.
76 00:05:17,150 00:05:19,861 But that's what's so cool about playing with that team, But that's what's so cool about playing with that team,
77 00:05:19,944 00:05:24,532 and they was all about... Anybody needed to do something, they was all about it. and they was all about... Anybody needed to do something, they was all about it.
78 00:05:24,615 00:05:26,034 And Phil was cool about it. And Phil was cool about it.
79 00:05:26,826 00:05:29,871 Dennis is always a rebel, at some point. Dennis is always a rebel, at some point.
80 00:05:29,954 00:05:33,833 He wants to join the group, but the other part of him wants to be autonomous. He wants to join the group, but the other part of him wants to be autonomous.
81 00:05:34,709 00:05:37,795 So, we appreciate the fact that he's a maverick. So, we appreciate the fact that he's a maverick.
82 00:05:38,504 00:05:41,049 But yet, when it comes time for him to perform, But yet, when it comes time for him to perform,
83 00:05:41,132 00:05:43,968 he's always on the court for us, always playing hard for us. he's always on the court for us, always playing hard for us.
84 00:05:45,928 00:05:47,555 Dennis and I have this... Dennis and I have this...
85 00:05:48,639 00:05:50,975 Native American bond between us. Native American bond between us.
86 00:05:53,144 00:05:56,606 He comes in one day, and Dennis and I met in the team room. He comes in one day, and Dennis and I met in the team room.
87 00:05:57,231 00:05:59,317 In the team room, I have a bear claw necklace, In the team room, I have a bear claw necklace,
88 00:05:59,400 00:06:02,570 a turtle shell that came from another Indian reservation, a turtle shell that came from another Indian reservation,
89 00:06:03,363 00:06:05,198 and various other Indian artifacts. and various other Indian artifacts.
90 00:06:07,200 00:06:10,495 And so, Dennis is like, "Wow." And so, Dennis is like, "Wow."
91 00:06:10,578 00:06:14,415 He said, "I have this necklace from the Ponca Indians in Oklahoma. He said, "I have this necklace from the Ponca Indians in Oklahoma.
92 00:06:14,999 00:06:16,501 I can... I'm hip to that." I can... I'm hip to that."
93 00:06:16,584 00:06:21,214 And I say, "Dennis, in their tradition, and the tradition that I knew, And I say, "Dennis, in their tradition, and the tradition that I knew,
94 00:06:21,297 00:06:24,342 you would be a heyoka, a backward-walking person. you would be a heyoka, a backward-walking person.
95 00:06:24,842 00:06:27,387 There were people that were different, and you're a heyoka. There were people that were different, and you're a heyoka.
96 00:06:27,470 00:06:29,597 So, you're this heyoka in this tribe." So, you're this heyoka in this tribe."
97 00:06:32,392 00:06:34,432 [Rodman] He don't look at me as a basketball player. [Rodman] He don't look at me as a basketball player.
98 00:06:34,477 00:06:35,853 He look at me as a great friend. He look at me as a great friend.
99 00:06:36,687 00:06:39,399 He realized that I probably needed him for inspiration. He realized that I probably needed him for inspiration.
100 00:06:41,067 00:06:43,277 He wants to see me persevere. He wants to see me persevere.
101 00:06:46,155 00:06:50,368 I had never met a coach who was that different I had never met a coach who was that different
102 00:06:50,952 00:06:55,415 and genuine when it came to bringing the group together. and genuine when it came to bringing the group together.
103 00:06:55,915 00:06:59,419 He had this real interest in Native American history, He had this real interest in Native American history,
104 00:06:59,919 00:07:04,006 and he would weave that into our own culture. and he would weave that into our own culture.
105 00:07:04,090 00:07:08,469 He brought in Zen Buddhism and Native American Indian philosophies. He brought in Zen Buddhism and Native American Indian philosophies.
106 00:07:09,303 00:07:12,140 Everything was about being focused, playing as one. Everything was about being focused, playing as one.
107 00:07:21,524 00:07:23,724 [Jackson] When I was at Great Falls as a kid growing up, [Jackson] When I was at Great Falls as a kid growing up,
108 00:07:24,360 00:07:28,239 my grandparents had this boarding house with small little cabins. my grandparents had this boarding house with small little cabins.
109 00:07:29,782 00:07:32,743 And Native American people from a popular Indian reservation And Native American people from a popular Indian reservation
110 00:07:32,827 00:07:34,871 used to come and they'd have their kids. used to come and they'd have their kids.
111 00:07:35,455 00:07:40,585 And so I started learning more and more about this Native American culture. And so I started learning more and more about this Native American culture.
112 00:07:41,586 00:07:44,839 There was a certain negativity about playing with these kids. There was a certain negativity about playing with these kids.
113 00:07:45,506 00:07:46,841 I didn't feel that at all. I didn't feel that at all.
114 00:07:47,758 00:07:50,303 Cowboys and Indians was a game that kids played. Cowboys and Indians was a game that kids played.
115 00:07:50,386 00:07:51,971 And I was always the Indian. And I was always the Indian.
116 00:07:54,307 00:07:56,434 My dad was a pastor. My dad was a pastor.
117 00:07:57,018 00:07:59,103 My mother was also a minister. My mother was also a minister.
118 00:07:59,187 00:08:04,108 She had an extreme belief about the, uh, second coming of Christ. She had an extreme belief about the, uh, second coming of Christ.
119 00:08:04,817 00:08:09,697 So, that was something that was foremost in your mind in growing up. So, that was something that was foremost in your mind in growing up.
120 00:08:10,364 00:08:12,241 "Would you be ready, if Christ came, "Would you be ready, if Christ came,
121 00:08:12,325 00:08:16,454 to be taken as part of that group that would be raptured?" to be taken as part of that group that would be raptured?"
122 00:08:18,164 00:08:20,875 My goal was always in conflict. My goal was always in conflict.
123 00:08:20,958 00:08:24,253 I would rather be playing sports than being on my knees, praying. I would rather be playing sports than being on my knees, praying.
124 00:08:26,130 00:08:28,633 I played basketball from the time I was a little kid, I played basketball from the time I was a little kid,
125 00:08:29,800 00:08:32,595 and eventually went to the University of North Dakota. and eventually went to the University of North Dakota.
126 00:08:33,596 00:08:35,596 [commentator] Jackson is having a whale of a night. [commentator] Jackson is having a whale of a night.
127 00:08:35,640 00:08:37,016 He scored 28 in the first half He scored 28 in the first half
128 00:08:37,099 00:08:39,685 and has continued the onslaught here in the second half. and has continued the onslaught here in the second half.
129 00:08:40,561 00:08:41,646 ["I Feel Free" playing] ["I Feel Free" playing]
130 00:08:41,729 00:08:43,856 [Jackson] The Knicks drafted me in the second round. [Jackson] The Knicks drafted me in the second round.
131 00:08:44,941 00:08:47,610 And I'd made the All-Rookie Team, my rookie season. And I'd made the All-Rookie Team, my rookie season.
132 00:08:47,693 00:08:49,612 [commentator] Jackson defensively gets the ball. [commentator] Jackson defensively gets the ball.
133 00:08:49,695 00:08:51,489 [Telander] I remember seeing Phil Jackson. [Telander] I remember seeing Phil Jackson.
134 00:08:51,572 00:08:53,324 [commentator] Jackson knocking it away... [commentator] Jackson knocking it away...
135 00:08:53,407 00:08:55,243 He was always smacking guys around. He was always smacking guys around.
136 00:08:55,910 00:08:58,788 He was like an earlier version of Dennis Rodman. He was like an earlier version of Dennis Rodman.
137 00:09:01,666 00:09:03,417 [Jackson] I was 11 years with the Knicks. [Jackson] I was 11 years with the Knicks.
138 00:09:03,501 00:09:06,420 We had seven good years. We went to the finals three years. We had seven good years. We went to the finals three years.
139 00:09:06,504 00:09:08,631 [commentator] White has the ball. Stolen by Jackson! [commentator] White has the ball. Stolen by Jackson!
140 00:09:08,714 00:09:11,926 Racing ahead of the field, he drives, lays it up... Racing ahead of the field, he drives, lays it up...
141 00:09:12,009 00:09:13,844 [Jackson] And we won two championships. [Jackson] And we won two championships.
142 00:09:23,145 00:09:25,439 [Rosen] Phil and I wrote Maverick together. [Rosen] Phil and I wrote Maverick together.
143 00:09:27,191 00:09:29,402 In that book, Phil talks about taking acid. In that book, Phil talks about taking acid.
144 00:09:33,447 00:09:37,868 And thinking he was a lion, roaring up and down the beach in LA. And thinking he was a lion, roaring up and down the beach in LA.
145 00:09:38,578 00:09:39,829 Phil was like a hippie Phil was like a hippie
146 00:09:40,538 00:09:44,375 and different from the NBA fraternity. and different from the NBA fraternity.
147 00:09:45,459 00:09:47,003 [Jackson] When I was playing as a pro, [Jackson] When I was playing as a pro,
148 00:09:47,086 00:09:49,839 Red Holzman encouraged me to think about coaching, Red Holzman encouraged me to think about coaching,
149 00:09:49,922 00:09:53,426 and particularly in Puerto Rico, where I ended up coaching for a while. and particularly in Puerto Rico, where I ended up coaching for a while.
150 00:09:55,177 00:09:59,682 I spent a lot of time down there in the Superior League, it was called. I spent a lot of time down there in the Superior League, it was called.
151 00:09:59,765 00:10:01,309 They played every other day. They played every other day.
152 00:10:01,392 00:10:05,688 And these players would just play ferociously. And these players would just play ferociously.
153 00:10:06,147 00:10:07,940 [commentator speaking Spanish] [commentator speaking Spanish]
154 00:10:10,610 00:10:11,861 [commentator exclaims] [commentator exclaims]
155 00:10:17,575 00:10:20,911 [commentator in Spanish] Jackson steps on the court to argue with the referees. [commentator in Spanish] Jackson steps on the court to argue with the referees.
156 00:10:20,995 00:10:24,123 [in English] There was a local animosity among these small towns. [in English] There was a local animosity among these small towns.
157 00:10:26,208 00:10:30,087 There were fires on your way out of town, and rocks being thrown at your car. There were fires on your way out of town, and rocks being thrown at your car.
158 00:10:30,171 00:10:34,050 They'd kill a chicken... in a graveyard, They'd kill a chicken... in a graveyard,
159 00:10:34,133 00:10:37,511 and pour the blood on the visiting team's bench. and pour the blood on the visiting team's bench.
160 00:10:38,512 00:10:41,891 [Jackson] The town I went to, Quebradillas, was ferocious. [Jackson] The town I went to, Quebradillas, was ferocious.
161 00:10:41,974 00:10:45,853 The mayor had actually shot an official one time with a gun The mayor had actually shot an official one time with a gun
162 00:10:45,936 00:10:47,897 and hit him in the lower leg. and hit him in the lower leg.
163 00:10:47,980 00:10:49,649 So, his punishment was So, his punishment was
164 00:10:49,732 00:10:53,694 he wasn't allowed to go to any more home games for the rest of the season. he wasn't allowed to go to any more home games for the rest of the season.
165 00:10:55,112 00:10:57,615 [Jackson] But, really, there's a lot of love about the game, [Jackson] But, really, there's a lot of love about the game,
166 00:10:57,698 00:11:00,159 and I learned a lot of things from the process. and I learned a lot of things from the process.
167 00:11:01,369 00:11:06,499 And then I got a call about coaching over in the CBA for the Albany Patroons. And then I got a call about coaching over in the CBA for the Albany Patroons.
168 00:11:07,625 00:11:10,753 [commentator 1] And now introducing the head coach of the Patroons, [commentator 1] And now introducing the head coach of the Patroons,
169 00:11:10,836 00:11:14,090 formerly of the New York Knickerbockers, Phil Jackson. formerly of the New York Knickerbockers, Phil Jackson.
170 00:11:14,173 00:11:15,341 [commentator 2] Phil Jackson. [commentator 2] Phil Jackson.
171 00:11:15,925 00:11:18,886 [Jackson] Then in '84, we won the championship. [Jackson] Then in '84, we won the championship.
172 00:11:18,969 00:11:20,388 They came together as a group, They came together as a group,
173 00:11:20,471 00:11:22,640 and it's been a great team effort ever since. and it's been a great team effort ever since.
174 00:11:22,723 00:11:24,058 - We're ecstatic. - [player] Whoo! - We're ecstatic. - [player] Whoo!
175 00:11:24,850 00:11:27,812 [Jackson] After that, the Bulls tracked me down, [Jackson] After that, the Bulls tracked me down,
176 00:11:27,895 00:11:33,317 and I got up to interview for an assistant job under Stan Albeck. and I got up to interview for an assistant job under Stan Albeck.
177 00:11:33,901 00:11:37,279 Jerry Krause and I had a really good relationship. Jerry Krause and I had a really good relationship.
178 00:11:37,363 00:11:38,906 [Krause] I wanted to bring Phil in. [Krause] I wanted to bring Phil in.
179 00:11:39,407 00:11:42,785 He came in, uh... not dressed real well. He came in, uh... not dressed real well.
180 00:11:43,369 00:11:44,578 Stan was very conservative. Stan was very conservative.
181 00:11:44,662 00:11:47,039 Phil looked anything but conservative at that point. Phil looked anything but conservative at that point.
182 00:11:47,123 00:11:51,836 And Stan quickly, uh, nixed that idea. Two years later, we had an opening. And Stan quickly, uh, nixed that idea. Two years later, we had an opening.
183 00:11:52,420 00:11:55,214 And this time I called Phil, and I told him how to dress And this time I called Phil, and I told him how to dress
184 00:11:55,297 00:11:59,677 and how to, uh, talk to Doug. Doug Collins was our coach. and how to, uh, talk to Doug. Doug Collins was our coach.
185 00:12:00,302 00:12:03,389 And I kind of helped Doug think about it, and we hired Phil. And I kind of helped Doug think about it, and we hired Phil.
186 00:12:06,767 00:12:08,227 [Jackson] Under Doug Collins, [Jackson] Under Doug Collins,
187 00:12:08,310 00:12:10,688 one of the assistant coaches was Tex Winter. one of the assistant coaches was Tex Winter.
188 00:12:11,355 00:12:14,692 Jerry Krause had the idea that Tex was gonna be a mentor. Jerry Krause had the idea that Tex was gonna be a mentor.
189 00:12:14,775 00:12:18,904 Doug was gonna follow the things that he would teach as a coach. Doug was gonna follow the things that he would teach as a coach.
190 00:12:18,988 00:12:22,742 When I took this job 11 years ago, the first person we hired was Tex Winter. When I took this job 11 years ago, the first person we hired was Tex Winter.
191 00:12:23,743 00:12:27,621 He's a brilliant man. The finest offensive mind in basketball. He's a brilliant man. The finest offensive mind in basketball.
192 00:12:28,831 00:12:30,332 Triangle is formed between... Triangle is formed between...
193 00:12:31,500 00:12:35,921 Forward Two, Guard One, who has now moved to the corner, Forward Two, Guard One, who has now moved to the corner,
194 00:12:36,422 00:12:38,799 and Center Five, who forms the apex of the triangle. and Center Five, who forms the apex of the triangle.
195 00:12:39,967 00:12:42,344 [Jackson] He had a system called "the triangle." [Jackson] He had a system called "the triangle."
196 00:12:42,428 00:12:46,015 Jerry said, "I've been listening to his basketball philosophy for years. Jerry said, "I've been listening to his basketball philosophy for years.
197 00:12:46,557 00:12:49,935 He's got the kind of philosophy I'd like to see happen with this team." He's got the kind of philosophy I'd like to see happen with this team."
198 00:12:51,061 00:12:52,855 Doug's philosophy was different. Doug's philosophy was different.
199 00:12:52,938 00:12:56,609 Doug would have these plays that always ended up with Michael Jordan Doug would have these plays that always ended up with Michael Jordan
200 00:12:56,692 00:12:58,736 being the recipient of the score. being the recipient of the score.
201 00:12:59,695 00:13:00,738 Tex was always like, Tex was always like,
202 00:13:00,821 00:13:03,657 "There's a way of playing this game that's different than that." "There's a way of playing this game that's different than that."
203 00:13:04,200 00:13:07,620 Tex Winter... would berate Doug about, Tex Winter... would berate Doug about,
204 00:13:07,703 00:13:11,248 "You should institute the triangle." Doug would not hear of it. "You should institute the triangle." Doug would not hear of it.
205 00:13:11,332 00:13:13,292 Doug finally had heard it enough and said, Doug finally had heard it enough and said,
206 00:13:13,375 00:13:16,837 "I'm tired of hearing that," and then the argument escalated a bit, "I'm tired of hearing that," and then the argument escalated a bit,
207 00:13:16,921 00:13:19,548 and Tex Winter was banned from the bench. and Tex Winter was banned from the bench.
208 00:13:19,632 00:13:20,966 [indistinct chatter] [indistinct chatter]
209 00:13:21,967 00:13:23,928 He wasn't coaching on the floor anymore. He wasn't coaching on the floor anymore.
210 00:13:24,011 00:13:27,181 He was sitting in the corner, taking notes about the practice. He was sitting in the corner, taking notes about the practice.
211 00:13:27,681 00:13:30,100 Jerry Krause was really unhappy with that. Jerry Krause was really unhappy with that.
212 00:13:31,101 00:13:32,978 During that period of time, During that period of time,
213 00:13:33,062 00:13:36,148 Krause made the decision that I should work together with Tex. Krause made the decision that I should work together with Tex.
214 00:13:36,816 00:13:41,195 [Krause] Phil was picking the brains of the best basketball man I've ever known, [Krause] Phil was picking the brains of the best basketball man I've ever known,
215 00:13:41,278 00:13:42,571 and I was watching it. and I was watching it.
216 00:13:43,697 00:13:45,074 And I thought, you know what? And I thought, you know what?
217 00:13:45,157 00:13:47,701 This is getting more and more interesting all the time. This is getting more and more interesting all the time.
218 00:13:48,327 00:13:50,955 - Is there anything that you missed? - [Jackson laughs] - Is there anything that you missed? - [Jackson laughs]
219 00:13:51,539 00:13:53,415 [Jordan] You still got a bit more room. [Jordan] You still got a bit more room.
220 00:13:54,375 00:13:56,585 [Jackson] I could've done another tier here, Mike. [Jackson] I could've done another tier here, Mike.
221 00:13:56,669 00:13:58,546 Mike, we want you to deny the ball, Mike, we want you to deny the ball,
222 00:13:58,629 00:14:01,131 so they can't throw the ball in easy to the blocks. so they can't throw the ball in easy to the blocks.
223 00:14:01,215 00:14:03,133 So, big man, if your man clears, So, big man, if your man clears,
224 00:14:03,217 00:14:05,094 you must tell Michael that he's alone out there you must tell Michael that he's alone out there
225 00:14:05,177 00:14:07,346 so he doesn't get naked on a back-door situation. so he doesn't get naked on a back-door situation.
226 00:14:10,516 00:14:13,602 Midway through my second year, I felt Phil could be the coach. Midway through my second year, I felt Phil could be the coach.
227 00:14:14,812 00:14:17,439 - [interviewer] What gave you that sense? - Just sense. - [interviewer] What gave you that sense? - Just sense.
228 00:14:20,192 00:14:22,778 - You don't want to go into the details? - It's just feeling. - You don't want to go into the details? - It's just feeling.
229 00:14:23,821 00:14:26,198 Jerry wanted to talk to me, so I go in and talk. Jerry wanted to talk to me, so I go in and talk.
230 00:14:26,282 00:14:30,452 He says, "I may have to do something that's gonna rock this... franchise." He says, "I may have to do something that's gonna rock this... franchise."
231 00:14:30,536 00:14:33,163 I said, "What?" He says, "I'm gonna have to fire Doug Collins." I said, "What?" He says, "I'm gonna have to fire Doug Collins."
232 00:14:33,247 00:14:35,332 I said, "It's gonna be some fuckin' balls, I said, "It's gonna be some fuckin' balls,
233 00:14:35,416 00:14:38,294 fire a guy that just took us to the Eastern Conference Final." fire a guy that just took us to the Eastern Conference Final."
234 00:14:38,377 00:14:42,381 If you're getting ready for work now, you're probably not Doug Collins. If you're getting ready for work now, you're probably not Doug Collins.
235 00:14:42,464 00:14:45,634 The Bulls head coach was fired in a surprise move yesterday. The Bulls head coach was fired in a surprise move yesterday.
236 00:14:46,218 00:14:49,305 I have the worst-kept secret in town sitting next to me. I have the worst-kept secret in town sitting next to me.
237 00:14:49,388 00:14:52,850 You guys, as usual, got us on that one. You guys, as usual, got us on that one.
238 00:14:53,434 00:14:55,060 For the last two years, For the last two years,
239 00:14:55,144 00:14:58,230 Phil Jackson has been a very integral part of this organization. Phil Jackson has been a very integral part of this organization.
240 00:14:58,314 00:15:01,525 He's now ready to be a head coach. Welcome, coach. He's now ready to be a head coach. Welcome, coach.
241 00:15:01,609 00:15:02,693 [Jackson] Thanks, Jerry. [Jackson] Thanks, Jerry.
242 00:15:03,944 00:15:05,864 [reporter] Have you talked to Michael Jordan yet? [reporter] Have you talked to Michael Jordan yet?
243 00:15:05,905 00:15:07,948 - Yes, I have. - [reporter] What'd he say? - Yes, I have. - [reporter] What'd he say?
244 00:15:08,032 00:15:10,534 "Congratulations! Let's go win a championship." "Congratulations! Let's go win a championship."
245 00:15:12,161 00:15:15,581 Phil took over and just had a different approach. Phil took over and just had a different approach.
246 00:15:16,290 00:15:20,669 Doug's approach was more catered to Michael, Doug's approach was more catered to Michael,
247 00:15:21,170 00:15:25,549 and Phil's approach was more catered to the team. and Phil's approach was more catered to the team.
248 00:15:25,633 00:15:29,261 I wasn't a Phil Jackson fan, you know, when he first came in, I wasn't a Phil Jackson fan, you know, when he first came in,
249 00:15:29,345 00:15:32,473 because he was coming in to take the ball out of my hands. because he was coming in to take the ball out of my hands.
250 00:15:32,556 00:15:34,266 Doug put the ball in my hands. Doug put the ball in my hands.
251 00:15:36,060 00:15:38,312 [Pippen] Tex Winter, his right-hand man, [Pippen] Tex Winter, his right-hand man,
252 00:15:38,395 00:15:41,649 had sold him on an offense that he believed had sold him on an offense that he believed
253 00:15:41,732 00:15:46,737 would get us out of this one-on-one type of basketball. would get us out of this one-on-one type of basketball.
254 00:15:46,820 00:15:48,697 [Jackson] The triangle offense is set [Jackson] The triangle offense is set
255 00:15:48,781 00:15:52,201 so that there's a key pass that creates motion. so that there's a key pass that creates motion.
256 00:15:53,827 00:15:57,665 Then there's 33 different types of options that come out of that single pass. Then there's 33 different types of options that come out of that single pass.
257 00:15:58,415 00:16:05,047 Players can do spontaneous, creative things using their strengths. Players can do spontaneous, creative things using their strengths.
258 00:16:05,798 00:16:08,258 Everybody has an opportunity to touch the ball Everybody has an opportunity to touch the ball
259 00:16:08,342 00:16:11,637 but I didn't want Bill Cartwright to have the ball with five seconds left. but I didn't want Bill Cartwright to have the ball with five seconds left.
260 00:16:11,720 00:16:14,640 [commentator] ...bounce into Cartwright, shoots over Rollins. Nope. [commentator] ...bounce into Cartwright, shoots over Rollins. Nope.
261 00:16:15,766 00:16:18,852 That's not equal-opportunity offense. That's fucking bullshit. That's not equal-opportunity offense. That's fucking bullshit.
262 00:16:19,853 00:16:23,440 [commentator] Oh, my! Michael Jordan has 54 points! [commentator] Oh, my! Michael Jordan has 54 points!
263 00:16:23,524 00:16:25,526 Sixty points for Jordan! Sixty points for Jordan!
264 00:16:25,609 00:16:28,320 Sixty-nine points for Michael Jordan. Sixty-nine points for Michael Jordan.
265 00:16:28,404 00:16:31,407 [Jordan] There was so many times Tex used to yell at me, saying, [Jordan] There was so many times Tex used to yell at me, saying,
266 00:16:31,490 00:16:34,576 "Move the ball. Move the ball." He says, "No 'I' in team." "Move the ball. Move the ball." He says, "No 'I' in team."
267 00:16:34,660 00:16:36,328 I said, "There's an 'I' in win." I said, "There's an 'I' in win."
268 00:16:37,371 00:16:40,040 [Jackson] I met Michael and I told him what we were gonna do. [Jackson] I met Michael and I told him what we were gonna do.
269 00:16:40,124 00:16:45,212 "Obviously, you've scored 37, 38 points a game the last couple years. "Obviously, you've scored 37, 38 points a game the last couple years.
270 00:16:45,295 00:16:48,841 I don't anticipate you're going to be the scoring champion in the league. I don't anticipate you're going to be the scoring champion in the league.
271 00:16:49,425 00:16:53,429 The spotlight's on the ball and if you're always the guy that's gonna have the ball, The spotlight's on the ball and if you're always the guy that's gonna have the ball,
272 00:16:53,512 00:16:56,682 teams can generate a defense against that, teams can generate a defense against that,
273 00:16:56,765 00:16:59,560 which happened with the Pistons the last couple years." which happened with the Pistons the last couple years."
274 00:17:00,060 00:17:02,104 He said, "I'm not worried about you, He said, "I'm not worried about you,
275 00:17:02,187 00:17:04,690 but we gotta find a way to make everybody else better. but we gotta find a way to make everybody else better.
276 00:17:04,773 00:17:06,025 We gotta create other threats." We gotta create other threats."
277 00:17:07,359 00:17:10,404 I came in the game as being a point guard, I came in the game as being a point guard,
278 00:17:10,904 00:17:15,909 but my growth sort of, uh, grew me into a small forward. but my growth sort of, uh, grew me into a small forward.
279 00:17:17,077 00:17:21,123 The triangle offense allowed me to be more of what I wanted to be. The triangle offense allowed me to be more of what I wanted to be.
280 00:17:21,915 00:17:24,251 [commentator] Scottie Pippen's turnaround! [commentator] Scottie Pippen's turnaround!
281 00:17:24,334 00:17:27,796 Scottie kinda developed that new position called the point forward. Scottie kinda developed that new position called the point forward.
282 00:17:28,380 00:17:30,924 Instead of being in Michael's shadow, Instead of being in Michael's shadow,
283 00:17:31,008 00:17:34,053 Scottie was starting to blossom as one of the top players in the NBA. Scottie was starting to blossom as one of the top players in the NBA.
284 00:17:34,136 00:17:36,263 [commentator 1] Beautiful move by Scottie! [commentator 1] Beautiful move by Scottie!
285 00:17:36,346 00:17:40,142 [commentator 2] Making his All-Star debut from the Chicago Bulls, Scottie Pippen. [commentator 2] Making his All-Star debut from the Chicago Bulls, Scottie Pippen.
286 00:17:45,689 00:17:49,026 [reporter] Michael Jordan is making an adjustment to this new philosophy, [reporter] Michael Jordan is making an adjustment to this new philosophy,
287 00:17:49,109 00:17:51,945 which tries to relieve him of the offensive burden. which tries to relieve him of the offensive burden.
288 00:17:52,529 00:17:56,408 He realized that him playing and just scoring 30 points He realized that him playing and just scoring 30 points
289 00:17:56,492 00:17:59,328 wasn't going to win the last game of the season. wasn't going to win the last game of the season.
290 00:17:59,411 00:18:01,997 I'm not gonna be the type of person I'm not gonna be the type of person
291 00:18:02,081 00:18:04,833 who's very hungry to lead the league in scoring once again, who's very hungry to lead the league in scoring once again,
292 00:18:04,917 00:18:06,960 or to chase individual accolades. or to chase individual accolades.
293 00:18:07,544 00:18:12,257 He made a conscious effort to say, "No individual is gonna be the team." He made a conscious effort to say, "No individual is gonna be the team."
294 00:18:12,341 00:18:14,676 Now, I'm more or less geared towards team success. Now, I'm more or less geared towards team success.
295 00:18:15,260 00:18:16,929 That's a special thing to have happen, That's a special thing to have happen,
296 00:18:17,012 00:18:20,516 when the largest icon that the NBA's ever had understands that, when the largest icon that the NBA's ever had understands that,
297 00:18:20,599 00:18:22,976 "I don't have to have the ball in my hands all the time." "I don't have to have the ball in my hands all the time."
298 00:18:25,104 00:18:28,982 With the triangle offense, certainly, it needed some little time to adjust, With the triangle offense, certainly, it needed some little time to adjust,
299 00:18:29,066 00:18:31,401 for everyone to adjust to it at their own pace, for everyone to adjust to it at their own pace,
300 00:18:32,069 00:18:36,406 and it took us about a year or so, as a team, to do it. and it took us about a year or so, as a team, to do it.
301 00:18:36,907 00:18:43,413 But by the 1990 playoffs, we all felt that we were ready to beat the Detroit Pistons. But by the 1990 playoffs, we all felt that we were ready to beat the Detroit Pistons.
302 00:18:43,497 00:18:45,791 [Jackson] The hurdle that comes up now is the big one. [Jackson] The hurdle that comes up now is the big one.
303 00:18:46,458 00:18:50,420 And we know that the challenge of the Detroit Pistons is immense. And we know that the challenge of the Detroit Pistons is immense.
304 00:18:50,504 00:18:53,048 It's one that we've been waiting for all season long. It's one that we've been waiting for all season long.
305 00:18:53,132 00:18:57,010 Chicago was the only team to beat the Pistons in the playoffs last year Chicago was the only team to beat the Pistons in the playoffs last year
306 00:18:57,094 00:19:00,264 and they're a deeper and more balanced team this time around. and they're a deeper and more balanced team this time around.
307 00:19:00,848 00:19:03,725 I felt like we were in a position to win, you know. I felt like we were in a position to win, you know.
308 00:19:03,809 00:19:06,812 And we pushed them to a game seven in their building. And we pushed them to a game seven in their building.
309 00:19:07,729 00:19:09,982 [interviewer] That's the Scottie migraine game, right? [interviewer] That's the Scottie migraine game, right?
310 00:19:10,524 00:19:11,524 Yeah. Yeah.
311 00:19:14,194 00:19:17,322 [commentator] The defending world champions, the Detroit Pistons, [commentator] The defending world champions, the Detroit Pistons,
312 00:19:17,406 00:19:19,616 extended to a seventh game. extended to a seventh game.
313 00:19:19,700 00:19:25,998 And 21,500 are gathered here for a very special afternoon. And 21,500 are gathered here for a very special afternoon.
314 00:19:27,040 00:19:30,210 [Pippen] When I got up that morning and went down for breakfast, [Pippen] When I got up that morning and went down for breakfast,
315 00:19:31,044 00:19:32,212 I had a headache. I had a headache.
316 00:19:33,130 00:19:35,424 I started feeling like I wanted to throw up. I started feeling like I wanted to throw up.
317 00:19:37,176 00:19:42,681 I went to the arena, did my regular routine warming up, I went to the arena, did my regular routine warming up,
318 00:19:43,265 00:19:46,351 and I was just, like, blind. I couldn't see. and I was just, like, blind. I couldn't see.
319 00:19:46,852 00:19:48,687 [player 1 claps] Game seven... Let's go! [player 1 claps] Game seven... Let's go!
320 00:19:48,770 00:19:51,481 - [player 2] You know what time it is. - [player 3] Go 110%. - [player 2] You know what time it is. - [player 3] Go 110%.
321 00:19:51,565 00:19:52,625 [player 2] Know what time it is. [player 2] Know what time it is.
322 00:19:52,649 00:19:54,109 We got Scottie and BJ? We got Scottie and BJ?
323 00:19:54,193 00:19:55,861 [man speaks indistinctly] [man speaks indistinctly]
324 00:19:56,987 00:20:00,115 - [player 4] Yeah. - [player 5] You know we gotta go. - [player 4] Yeah. - [player 5] You know we gotta go.
325 00:20:00,199 00:20:02,451 - [player 6] This is it. - [player 7] Let's go. - [player 6] This is it. - [player 7] Let's go.
326 00:20:02,534 00:20:03,660 All in. All in.
327 00:20:03,744 00:20:05,078 - All out. - [player 8] No doubt. - All out. - [player 8] No doubt.
328 00:20:05,162 00:20:07,748 We worked all season for this, guys. Let's play hard. We worked all season for this, guys. Let's play hard.
329 00:20:07,831 00:20:09,124 Leave it all on the floor. Leave it all on the floor.
330 00:20:09,208 00:20:10,208 [team exclaims] [team exclaims]
331 00:20:16,423 00:20:18,717 [commentator] Game seven from the Palace. [commentator] Game seven from the Palace.
332 00:20:22,387 00:20:23,472 Piston ball. Piston ball.
333 00:20:25,891 00:20:28,518 [Pippen] As the game started, I couldn't focus. [Pippen] As the game started, I couldn't focus.
334 00:20:29,269 00:20:32,689 Everything was blurry, I was seeing double, black, and I just... Everything was blurry, I was seeing double, black, and I just...
335 00:20:32,773 00:20:34,775 I couldn't get my eyesight. I couldn't get my eyesight.
336 00:20:35,359 00:20:37,819 [commentator] Pippen is one and five in the field. [commentator] Pippen is one and five in the field.
337 00:20:38,445 00:20:39,446 One and six. One and six.
338 00:20:41,949 00:20:44,368 [Pippen] I told 'em, "I can't see," [Pippen] I told 'em, "I can't see,"
339 00:20:45,285 00:20:47,204 and I was taken out of the game. and I was taken out of the game.
340 00:20:50,832 00:20:52,709 He said he had a migraine. I don't... He said he had a migraine. I don't...
341 00:20:52,793 00:20:55,128 I can't argue the point that he had a migraine. I can't argue the point that he had a migraine.
342 00:20:55,212 00:20:58,966 It was just one of those things that, you know, it was so unfortunate. It was just one of those things that, you know, it was so unfortunate.
343 00:20:59,049 00:21:00,175 When you can't see, When you can't see,
344 00:21:00,259 00:21:03,303 you're seeing double, and want to vomit, you're seeing double, and want to vomit,
345 00:21:03,387 00:21:05,847 and you gotta play against Dennis Rodman? [sucks teeth] and you gotta play against Dennis Rodman? [sucks teeth]
346 00:21:05,931 00:21:07,224 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
347 00:21:16,525 00:21:19,611 [commentator 1] Pippen passes inside, Laimbeer knocks it away. [commentator 1] Pippen passes inside, Laimbeer knocks it away.
348 00:21:19,695 00:21:23,240 4:10 to go. Here's Isiah. 4:10 to go. Here's Isiah.
349 00:21:24,825 00:21:27,995 [commentator 2] The players on the Bulls are playing from desperation. [commentator 2] The players on the Bulls are playing from desperation.
350 00:21:28,078 00:21:30,414 Guys are trying to do more than they're capable of doing, Guys are trying to do more than they're capable of doing,
351 00:21:30,497 00:21:32,577 - and that includes Michael Jordan. - [whistle blows] - and that includes Michael Jordan. - [whistle blows]
352 00:21:37,170 00:21:39,047 [commentator 1] The lead is 20. [commentator 1] The lead is 20.
353 00:21:39,131 00:21:43,051 The Detroit Pistons will meet the Portland Trail Blazers The Detroit Pistons will meet the Portland Trail Blazers
354 00:21:43,135 00:21:47,472 in a best of seven, beginning Tuesday night on CBS. in a best of seven, beginning Tuesday night on CBS.
355 00:21:54,980 00:21:57,524 Michael Jordan had 31, and he's with Pat O'Brien. Michael Jordan had 31, and he's with Pat O'Brien.
356 00:21:58,150 00:22:01,486 Mike... Michael Jordan here, in the midst of the celebration. Mike... Michael Jordan here, in the midst of the celebration.
357 00:22:01,570 00:22:03,530 What are you saying to the other players? What are you saying to the other players?
358 00:22:03,613 00:22:07,826 All you can do is wish them good luck. We fought hard. They were the better team. All you can do is wish them good luck. We fought hard. They were the better team.
359 00:22:07,909 00:22:09,494 We wanna be where they are. We wanna be where they are.
360 00:22:09,578 00:22:12,289 We still gotta wait our turn, and try to improve our team. We still gotta wait our turn, and try to improve our team.
361 00:22:12,372 00:22:14,374 They were the better team and played better today. They were the better team and played better today.
362 00:22:17,836 00:22:20,922 [Armstrong] We were sitting in the locker room after the game, [Armstrong] We were sitting in the locker room after the game,
363 00:22:21,548 00:22:22,924 and nothing was said. and nothing was said.
364 00:22:23,759 00:22:26,094 Everyone just sat there for a moment. Everyone just sat there for a moment.
365 00:22:27,888 00:22:31,350 [Jordan] We had a chance to beat 'em. We just didn't respond. [Jordan] We had a chance to beat 'em. We just didn't respond.
366 00:22:31,433 00:22:34,269 We got to that hill, we almost looked over the hill. We got to that hill, we almost looked over the hill.
367 00:22:35,520 00:22:38,857 I was devastated. I was absolutely devastated. I was devastated. I was absolutely devastated.
368 00:22:40,192 00:22:42,736 I cried on the bus. My father came on and said, I cried on the bus. My father came on and said,
369 00:22:43,653 00:22:46,656 "Look, it's just one game. Bounce back, come back next year." "Look, it's just one game. Bounce back, come back next year."
370 00:22:51,078 00:22:53,747 I remember losing to the Pistons. I remember losing to the Pistons.
371 00:22:53,830 00:22:54,830 Damn Pistons. Damn Pistons.
372 00:22:55,457 00:22:56,458 Um... Um...
373 00:22:57,084 00:22:59,628 That shit hurt. [chuckles] That shit hurt. [chuckles]
374 00:22:59,711 00:23:01,992 [Armstrong] You couldn't deny that they were a great team. [Armstrong] You couldn't deny that they were a great team.
375 00:23:02,923 00:23:05,300 We had to either change something about ourself, We had to either change something about ourself,
376 00:23:05,842 00:23:07,344 or we weren't gonna beat them. or we weren't gonna beat them.
377 00:23:07,427 00:23:08,929 [players chanting] Can't touch this! [players chanting] Can't touch this!
378 00:23:09,012 00:23:12,265 - Congratulations! - Thanks, Pat! [laughs] - Congratulations! - Thanks, Pat! [laughs]
379 00:23:12,349 00:23:13,475 [Armstrong] After that game, [Armstrong] After that game,
380 00:23:14,518 00:23:16,353 instead of us all going on vacation, instead of us all going on vacation,
381 00:23:16,436 00:23:18,438 we all showed up and we started working out. we all showed up and we started working out.
382 00:23:21,483 00:23:25,195 Everybody, starting with Michael, changed. Everybody, starting with Michael, changed.
383 00:23:25,278 00:23:27,864 [Schaefer] Before the Pistons, Michael didn't weight train. [Schaefer] Before the Pistons, Michael didn't weight train.
384 00:23:27,948 00:23:30,075 He didn't go in much for strength training. He didn't go in much for strength training.
385 00:23:30,158 00:23:32,452 After the Pistons beat the shit out of him, After the Pistons beat the shit out of him,
386 00:23:32,536 00:23:35,288 he finally decided, "I gotta put some muscle on." he finally decided, "I gotta put some muscle on."
387 00:23:35,372 00:23:38,542 I was getting brutally beaten up. [chuckles] I was getting brutally beaten up. [chuckles]
388 00:23:39,084 00:23:41,795 And I want to administer pain. And I want to administer pain.
389 00:23:42,546 00:23:44,756 I wanted to start fighting back. I wanted to start fighting back.
390 00:23:45,465 00:23:47,342 [Grover] It's difficult to add muscle [Grover] It's difficult to add muscle
391 00:23:47,426 00:23:49,970 for an athlete that's constantly burning calories, for an athlete that's constantly burning calories,
392 00:23:50,053 00:23:51,721 running up and down all the time. running up and down all the time.
393 00:23:53,056 00:23:54,850 We started at 200. We started at 200.
394 00:23:54,933 00:23:57,436 We added five pounds We added five pounds
395 00:23:57,519 00:24:01,022 until he got to 215. until he got to 215.
396 00:24:06,903 00:24:09,114 [reporter] When did you decide to build it? [reporter] When did you decide to build it?
397 00:24:09,197 00:24:13,160 I put it in just to get myself physically strong enough to go against Detroit. I put it in just to get myself physically strong enough to go against Detroit.
398 00:24:13,994 00:24:15,829 I was a slim and skinny kid. I was a slim and skinny kid.
399 00:24:15,912 00:24:18,498 But now, after I put on a couple pounds, But now, after I put on a couple pounds,
400 00:24:18,582 00:24:20,709 I can throw my weight around a little more. I can throw my weight around a little more.
401 00:24:21,126 00:24:23,670 [Grover] I would give him a certain amount of reps to do. [Grover] I would give him a certain amount of reps to do.
402 00:24:23,753 00:24:25,505 He would never stop at that number. He would never stop at that number.
403 00:24:25,589 00:24:28,300 If I asked for six, I know he was gonna do 12. If I asked for six, I know he was gonna do 12.
404 00:24:30,886 00:24:32,846 He got to the point where he was like, He got to the point where he was like,
405 00:24:32,929 00:24:36,016 "Instead of them dishing it to me, "Instead of them dishing it to me,
406 00:24:36,099 00:24:37,934 I'm gonna dish it back to them." I'm gonna dish it back to them."
407 00:24:40,395 00:24:43,607 [reporter] One of the criticisms has been that Jordan is a great player, [reporter] One of the criticisms has been that Jordan is a great player,
408 00:24:43,690 00:24:46,318 but he can't lead his teammates to a championship. but he can't lead his teammates to a championship.
409 00:24:46,401 00:24:48,487 He can't make them better players. He can't make them better players.
410 00:24:48,987 00:24:50,947 [interviewer] You were known at that time [interviewer] You were known at that time
411 00:24:51,031 00:24:53,158 as the guy who was a spectacular performer, as the guy who was a spectacular performer,
412 00:24:53,241 00:24:56,203 but not the winner that Magic and Larry were. but not the winner that Magic and Larry were.
413 00:24:56,870 00:24:57,996 Which ate at me. Which ate at me.
414 00:24:58,705 00:25:00,040 It did. It did. It did. It did.
415 00:25:02,125 00:25:06,087 My energy started to gear towards my teammates, My energy started to gear towards my teammates,
416 00:25:06,171 00:25:08,924 and pushing them to excel. and pushing them to excel.
417 00:25:09,007 00:25:11,551 [Jackson] Michael forced the hand of a lot of the players [Jackson] Michael forced the hand of a lot of the players
418 00:25:11,635 00:25:15,639 to really dedicate themselves to off-season training. to really dedicate themselves to off-season training.
419 00:25:15,722 00:25:19,142 "Okay, we're gonna spend the summer dedicated to this proposition, "Okay, we're gonna spend the summer dedicated to this proposition,
420 00:25:19,226 00:25:22,896 that we're not gonna be runners-up. We're gonna be champions." that we're not gonna be runners-up. We're gonna be champions."
421 00:25:23,772 00:25:25,148 [Pippen] Michael was on us. [Pippen] Michael was on us.
422 00:25:25,982 00:25:27,275 No mistakes allowed. No mistakes allowed.
423 00:25:28,068 00:25:30,862 Man, I see a screaming devil. Man, I see a screaming devil.
424 00:25:30,946 00:25:32,697 You make a mistake, You make a mistake,
425 00:25:32,781 00:25:35,909 he's gonna scream at you, he's gonna belittle you. he's gonna scream at you, he's gonna belittle you.
426 00:25:36,618 00:25:39,287 He demands almost perfection. He demands almost perfection.
427 00:25:39,371 00:25:45,001 Man, when you see your leader working extremely hard in practice, Man, when you see your leader working extremely hard in practice,
428 00:25:46,169 00:25:50,549 you feel like, "Oh, man, if I don't give it my all, I shouldn't be here." you feel like, "Oh, man, if I don't give it my all, I shouldn't be here."
429 00:25:50,632 00:25:54,386 He taught me how to stay in the gym. He taught me how to stay in the gym.
430 00:25:54,469 00:25:59,558 And he spent a lot of time starting to build the confidence that I needed. And he spent a lot of time starting to build the confidence that I needed.
431 00:25:59,641 00:26:01,935 Pippen became my focal point. Pippen became my focal point.
432 00:26:02,018 00:26:03,645 [Armstrong] More than any other player, [Armstrong] More than any other player,
433 00:26:03,728 00:26:06,189 Scottie benefited from playing with Michael Jordan... Scottie benefited from playing with Michael Jordan...
434 00:26:07,357 00:26:11,278 because Scottie had this raw athletic ability. because Scottie had this raw athletic ability.
435 00:26:11,361 00:26:13,280 [commentator] Two-hand dunk by Pippen! [commentator] Two-hand dunk by Pippen!
436 00:26:13,363 00:26:16,575 What he didn't have was what Michael brought every day, What he didn't have was what Michael brought every day,
437 00:26:16,658 00:26:20,704 which was the drive to be the very best, every single day. which was the drive to be the very best, every single day.
438 00:26:21,288 00:26:23,415 The mental focus of the game. The mental focus of the game.
439 00:26:24,791 00:26:27,669 Dumars, see I gotta help, I gotta give him a bump... Dumars, see I gotta help, I gotta give him a bump...
440 00:26:27,752 00:26:31,256 So I'm gonna be a step slow. I'll go to yours. So I'm gonna be a step slow. I'll go to yours.
441 00:26:31,965 00:26:33,800 The thing about Pip is, you know, The thing about Pip is, you know,
442 00:26:33,883 00:26:36,553 you stand next to him, you make him stronger. you stand next to him, you make him stronger.
443 00:26:37,804 00:26:41,808 All the Detroit times when Rodman wanted to pick on him, All the Detroit times when Rodman wanted to pick on him,
444 00:26:42,392 00:26:44,936 he needed someone there to stand there and say, he needed someone there to stand there and say,
445 00:26:45,020 00:26:46,605 "I'll fight with you, just fight." "I'll fight with you, just fight."
446 00:26:47,731 00:26:53,028 Scottie and I bonded because he felt, okay, he has someone that he can count on. Scottie and I bonded because he felt, okay, he has someone that he can count on.
447 00:26:53,528 00:26:56,948 And I'm looking at, "Okay, I got someone who I can actually count on." And I'm looking at, "Okay, I got someone who I can actually count on."
448 00:26:57,449 00:26:59,409 And then Horace came right behind that. And then Horace came right behind that.
449 00:27:00,076 00:27:02,954 During the time that the Pistons reigned over us, During the time that the Pistons reigned over us,
450 00:27:03,663 00:27:05,582 every time they'd do something to us, every time they'd do something to us,
451 00:27:05,665 00:27:08,710 we would complain to the referee or try to go back at them. we would complain to the referee or try to go back at them.
452 00:27:10,003 00:27:12,005 Horace used to get beaten up. [chuckles] Horace used to get beaten up. [chuckles]
453 00:27:12,589 00:27:15,133 [commentator] He got Grant with an elbow in the side... [commentator] He got Grant with an elbow in the side...
454 00:27:15,216 00:27:18,678 And he would come back whining. And I'd say, "Don't fucking whine. And he would come back whining. And I'd say, "Don't fucking whine.
455 00:27:18,762 00:27:22,015 Don't let 'em see you whine. That's when they know they got you." Don't let 'em see you whine. That's when they know they got you."
456 00:27:22,098 00:27:25,727 [Grant] With them being more mentally dominant than we were, [Grant] With them being more mentally dominant than we were,
457 00:27:25,810 00:27:30,148 they knew, soon as we start complaining, they had us. And they did. they knew, soon as we start complaining, they had us. And they did.
458 00:27:30,231 00:27:33,443 [commentator] Grant has got to realize this game is not over. [commentator] Grant has got to realize this game is not over.
459 00:27:33,526 00:27:36,529 You can't give the world champions anything. You can't give the world champions anything.
460 00:27:37,197 00:27:39,824 [Jordan] Just be strong. We gonna beat these bullies. [Jordan] Just be strong. We gonna beat these bullies.
461 00:27:40,617 00:27:41,743 In '91, In '91,
462 00:27:41,826 00:27:44,496 the Bulls were determined to be the tougher team. the Bulls were determined to be the tougher team.
463 00:27:45,080 00:27:49,918 The pain of losing to Detroit, again, the year before, The pain of losing to Detroit, again, the year before,
464 00:27:50,502 00:27:55,465 brought a fury into that season that they had not had. brought a fury into that season that they had not had.
465 00:27:55,548 00:27:57,550 [commentator] Jordan knocks the ball out of bounds. [commentator] Jordan knocks the ball out of bounds.
466 00:27:57,634 00:27:59,594 No, he didn't! He saved it and played... No, he didn't! He saved it and played...
467 00:27:59,678 00:28:02,514 What a spectacular defensive play by Jordan! What a spectacular defensive play by Jordan!
468 00:28:02,597 00:28:03,932 A pass stolen by Jordan... A pass stolen by Jordan...
469 00:28:04,015 00:28:08,728 [Armstrong] Being around Michael every day like that, it just brought it out of us. [Armstrong] Being around Michael every day like that, it just brought it out of us.
470 00:28:09,229 00:28:12,774 Scottie evolved, Horace evolved, I evolved. Scottie evolved, Horace evolved, I evolved.
471 00:28:13,358 00:28:14,984 [Pippen] It was a great feeling. [Pippen] It was a great feeling.
472 00:28:15,068 00:28:18,822 We had matured in a lot of ways, physically, mentally. We had matured in a lot of ways, physically, mentally.
473 00:28:18,905 00:28:22,033 [commentator] Jordan dribbles out, a hook pass to Pippen for the dunk. [commentator] Jordan dribbles out, a hook pass to Pippen for the dunk.
474 00:28:22,117 00:28:25,704 [Pippen] It was time for us to become the top team in the game. [Pippen] It was time for us to become the top team in the game.
475 00:28:28,498 00:28:30,041 [audience cheering] [audience cheering]
476 00:28:35,588 00:28:41,261 [announcer] And now, the starting lineup for your Chicago Bulls... [announcer] And now, the starting lineup for your Chicago Bulls...
477 00:28:41,344 00:28:42,679 [cheering intensifies] [cheering intensifies]
478 00:28:44,305 00:28:46,683 [Wilbon] Everybody in Chicago hated the Pistons. [Wilbon] Everybody in Chicago hated the Pistons.
479 00:28:47,183 00:28:48,393 This was personal. This was personal.
480 00:28:49,185 00:28:51,354 Anybody says it wasn't personal, it was personal. Anybody says it wasn't personal, it was personal.
481 00:28:52,605 00:28:55,734 [commentator] Game one of the best of seven. [commentator] Game one of the best of seven.
482 00:28:55,817 00:28:59,362 [Wilbon] I didn't wanna deal with my relatives in Detroit during that time. [Wilbon] I didn't wanna deal with my relatives in Detroit during that time.
483 00:28:59,446 00:29:02,031 I didn't wanna go stay with them. My first cousins, I didn't wanna go stay with them. My first cousins,
484 00:29:02,115 00:29:05,785 "Yeah, whatever. We don't like you right now." They didn't like us. "Yeah, whatever. We don't like you right now." They didn't like us.
485 00:29:05,869 00:29:09,205 [commentator] The opening tip. Game one. [commentator] The opening tip. Game one.
486 00:29:09,289 00:29:12,542 [Cartwright] Our character was challenged the last two years and we failed. [Cartwright] Our character was challenged the last two years and we failed.
487 00:29:12,625 00:29:14,294 But that third year, But that third year,
488 00:29:15,545 00:29:17,589 we put them in our rearview mirror. we put them in our rearview mirror.
489 00:29:17,672 00:29:18,965 [commentator] Bill Laimbeer. [commentator] Bill Laimbeer.
490 00:29:19,048 00:29:20,925 Jordan with the steal. Jordan with the steal.
491 00:29:21,509 00:29:22,844 - Jordan! - [whistle blows] - Jordan! - [whistle blows]
492 00:29:22,927 00:29:24,527 [commentator] He'll go to the foul line. [commentator] He'll go to the foul line.
493 00:29:24,554 00:29:27,348 [commentator 2] Jordan is not gonna back down from anyone right now. [commentator 2] Jordan is not gonna back down from anyone right now.
494 00:29:27,432 00:29:30,477 He's the leader and understands what to expect during the series. He's the leader and understands what to expect during the series.
495 00:29:30,560 00:29:32,771 He's gonna hold his ground, make a statement. He's gonna hold his ground, make a statement.
496 00:29:38,067 00:29:40,820 [Thomas] I thought we were a good enough team [Thomas] I thought we were a good enough team
497 00:29:40,904 00:29:43,323 to at least make the series to at least make the series
498 00:29:43,406 00:29:45,325 a little bit more competitive. a little bit more competitive.
499 00:29:45,408 00:29:46,284 And we didn't. And we didn't.
500 00:29:46,367 00:29:49,746 [commentator] Pippen against Vinnie up the right side to the baseline. [commentator] Pippen against Vinnie up the right side to the baseline.
501 00:29:49,829 00:29:51,915 Fills it up, and a foul! Fills it up, and a foul!
502 00:29:58,129 00:30:01,466 [commentator] All right, Ahmad, game four of the best of seven. [commentator] All right, Ahmad, game four of the best of seven.
503 00:30:02,842 00:30:05,512 Nice fake by Jordan... Goes to the scoop! Nice fake by Jordan... Goes to the scoop!
504 00:30:08,014 00:30:09,265 Pippen... Pippen...
505 00:30:09,349 00:30:12,727 Oh! Beautiful move by... Scottie Pippen off to a fast start. Oh! Beautiful move by... Scottie Pippen off to a fast start.
506 00:30:12,811 00:30:14,270 He has ten points. He has ten points.
507 00:30:16,439 00:30:18,079 [Cartwright] You know something's coming. [Cartwright] You know something's coming.
508 00:30:18,942 00:30:20,443 This team is desperate. This team is desperate.
509 00:30:20,527 00:30:23,571 They've done everything they can. Now, they're really desperate. They've done everything they can. Now, they're really desperate.
510 00:30:24,823 00:30:27,242 [commentator] Armstrong and Craig Hodges in the back court. [commentator] Armstrong and Craig Hodges in the back court.
511 00:30:27,325 00:30:30,078 Cliff Levingston, Bill Cartwright and Scottie Pippen up for... Cliff Levingston, Bill Cartwright and Scottie Pippen up for...
512 00:30:30,161 00:30:33,039 A beautiful back court pass for Pippen! And he is walloped. A beautiful back court pass for Pippen! And he is walloped.
513 00:30:33,122 00:30:34,916 And that will be a flagrant foul. And that will be a flagrant foul.
514 00:30:34,999 00:30:38,378 And it's getting very, very tough out there. And it's getting very, very tough out there.
515 00:30:39,128 00:30:41,256 [Cartwright] Dennis Rodman pushed Scottie, [Cartwright] Dennis Rodman pushed Scottie,
516 00:30:41,339 00:30:45,885 and could have injured him pretty severely. and could have injured him pretty severely.
517 00:30:45,969 00:30:50,014 It was clearly, um, a flagrant foul. It was clearly, um, a flagrant foul.
518 00:30:50,098 00:30:53,726 [commentator] That's a clear-cut cheap shot, no question. Clear cut. [commentator] That's a clear-cut cheap shot, no question. Clear cut.
519 00:30:53,810 00:30:55,937 Scottie Pippen was racked up. Scottie Pippen was racked up.
520 00:30:58,231 00:31:01,317 [Jordan] When Pippen didn't respond to that abuse... [Jordan] When Pippen didn't respond to that abuse...
521 00:31:01,901 00:31:04,028 there was nothing they could do to beat us then. there was nothing they could do to beat us then.
522 00:31:08,908 00:31:12,370 Scottie was unshakable, didn't even want a Band-Aid. Scottie was unshakable, didn't even want a Band-Aid.
523 00:31:12,453 00:31:14,372 When we saw that, it was over. When we saw that, it was over.
524 00:31:14,455 00:31:17,166 You know, it was like, "Okay, it's a foul. You know, it was like, "Okay, it's a foul.
525 00:31:17,250 00:31:20,795 Um, let's go ahead and finish kicking their ass and you know..." Um, let's go ahead and finish kicking their ass and you know..."
526 00:31:20,879 00:31:22,714 And put 'em out of their misery. And put 'em out of their misery.
527 00:31:22,797 00:31:25,174 [commentator 1] Jordan rebounds. He has Pippen. [commentator 1] Jordan rebounds. He has Pippen.
528 00:31:27,760 00:31:32,307 The Chicago Bulls about to put the Pistons away in four... The Chicago Bulls about to put the Pistons away in four...
529 00:31:33,057 00:31:35,768 And Pippen able to feed it off to Jordan! And Pippen able to feed it off to Jordan!
530 00:31:36,394 00:31:38,479 [commentator 2] Chuck is now clearing the bench. [commentator 2] Chuck is now clearing the bench.
531 00:31:38,563 00:31:41,441 [commentator 1] Miller Genuine Draft player of the game, [commentator 1] Miller Genuine Draft player of the game,
532 00:31:41,524 00:31:43,818 Scottie Pippen of the Chicago Bulls. Scottie Pippen of the Chicago Bulls.
533 00:31:43,902 00:31:48,865 We were tasting victory over a team that just kicked your butt We were tasting victory over a team that just kicked your butt
534 00:31:48,948 00:31:50,909 for the last three or four years. for the last three or four years.
535 00:31:50,992 00:31:57,415 I mean, the gratification... You truly cannot put it into words. I mean, the gratification... You truly cannot put it into words.
536 00:31:57,498 00:31:58,708 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
537 00:31:59,500 00:32:00,960 [commentator] It is all over. [commentator] It is all over.
538 00:32:03,796 00:32:08,176 That was the only time that I think I'd ever been swept, um... That was the only time that I think I'd ever been swept, um...
539 00:32:08,718 00:32:12,430 in a series. I was normally the one doing the sweeping. [chuckles] in a series. I was normally the one doing the sweeping. [chuckles]
540 00:32:15,433 00:32:18,978 Their time had arrived and ours was over. Their time had arrived and ours was over.
541 00:32:20,855 00:32:24,317 As we're coming out of the game, Laimbeer said, "You know... As we're coming out of the game, Laimbeer said, "You know...
542 00:32:25,193 00:32:26,694 we're not shaking their hands. we're not shaking their hands.
543 00:32:27,528 00:32:28,947 This is how we're leaving." This is how we're leaving."
544 00:32:29,906 00:32:32,867 [commentator] The Pistons wasting no time in getting outta here, [commentator] The Pistons wasting no time in getting outta here,
545 00:32:32,951 00:32:34,827 as they are headed off... as they are headed off...
546 00:32:34,911 00:32:37,413 [Rodman] We didn't shake hands. We just walked off the court. [Rodman] We didn't shake hands. We just walked off the court.
547 00:32:37,497 00:32:39,749 "Fuck you guys. Thank you for kicking our ass." "Fuck you guys. Thank you for kicking our ass."
548 00:32:39,832 00:32:43,336 [commentator] They left the bench although there's seven seconds remaining. [commentator] They left the bench although there's seven seconds remaining.
549 00:32:43,419 00:32:45,004 The Pistons just left. The Pistons just left.
550 00:32:45,630 00:32:47,465 [Jackson] I think it was difficult for them [Jackson] I think it was difficult for them
551 00:32:47,548 00:32:49,801 because they were two-time champions. because they were two-time champions.
552 00:32:49,884 00:32:53,262 But, you know, there certainly has to be some respect. But, you know, there certainly has to be some respect.
553 00:32:54,764 00:32:55,974 Straight up bitches. Straight up bitches.
554 00:32:56,516 00:32:58,685 [laughing] That's what they walked off like. [laughing] That's what they walked off like.
555 00:33:00,353 00:33:03,022 "Yeah, we just kicked your ass. Go ahead and go." "Yeah, we just kicked your ass. Go ahead and go."
556 00:33:03,606 00:33:06,234 Detroit had a similar thing with Boston Detroit had a similar thing with Boston
557 00:33:06,317 00:33:07,652 that we had with them. that we had with them.
558 00:33:07,735 00:33:10,822 They had to overcome Boston, and they did. I still remember... They had to overcome Boston, and they did. I still remember...
559 00:33:11,406 00:33:13,533 it was the first time that, uh... it was the first time that, uh...
560 00:33:13,616 00:33:14,909 Detroit beat them, Detroit beat them,
561 00:33:14,993 00:33:17,745 and I can see Kevin McHale coming out to half court and I can see Kevin McHale coming out to half court
562 00:33:17,829 00:33:19,664 and shaking hands, things like that. and shaking hands, things like that.
563 00:33:21,332 00:33:22,332 No. No.
564 00:33:22,834 00:33:25,086 Adrian Dantley was shooting a free throw Adrian Dantley was shooting a free throw
565 00:33:26,087 00:33:30,258 and the Boston Celtics were walking off during the game. and the Boston Celtics were walking off during the game.
566 00:33:30,842 00:33:33,177 And I grab McHale, And I grab McHale,
567 00:33:34,679 00:33:38,808 and then he stopped as he was walking off the floor. and then he stopped as he was walking off the floor.
568 00:33:39,392 00:33:44,564 That's how they left the floor. And to us, that was okay. That's how they left the floor. And to us, that was okay.
569 00:33:45,690 00:33:47,316 Knowing what we know now, Knowing what we know now,
570 00:33:47,984 00:33:51,696 and the aftermath of what took place, and the aftermath of what took place,
571 00:33:52,280 00:33:53,614 I think we would have stopped I think we would have stopped
572 00:33:53,698 00:33:56,159 and said, "Hey, congratulate..." like they do now. and said, "Hey, congratulate..." like they do now.
573 00:33:56,242 00:33:59,203 "Hey, congratulate... ""Love ya, man!" "Hey, congratulations..." "Hey, congratulate... ""Love ya, man!" "Hey, congratulations..."
574 00:33:59,287 00:34:01,789 We would have did it. Of course, we would have done it. We would have did it. Of course, we would have done it.
575 00:34:02,749 00:34:07,712 But during that period of time, that's just not how it was passed. But during that period of time, that's just not how it was passed.
576 00:34:08,337 00:34:10,965 When you lost, you left the floor. That was it. When you lost, you left the floor. That was it.
577 00:34:11,591 00:34:15,553 [interviewer] This is Isiah, talking about the walk-off. [interviewer] This is Isiah, talking about the walk-off.
578 00:34:16,721 00:34:18,347 Well, I know it's all bullshit. Well, I know it's all bullshit.
579 00:34:19,182 00:34:22,143 Whatever he says now, you know it wasn't his true actions then. Whatever he says now, you know it wasn't his true actions then.
580 00:34:22,226 00:34:24,270 He's had time enough to think about it. He's had time enough to think about it.
581 00:34:24,353 00:34:27,899 Or the reaction of the public that's changed his perspective of it. Or the reaction of the public that's changed his perspective of it.
582 00:34:29,484 00:34:31,778 [stammers] You can show me anything you want. [stammers] You can show me anything you want.
583 00:34:31,861 00:34:34,405 There's no way you can convince me he wasn't an asshole. There's no way you can convince me he wasn't an asshole.
584 00:34:36,908 00:34:38,618 [Thomas] Knowing what we know now, [Thomas] Knowing what we know now,
585 00:34:39,327 00:34:43,122 - and the aftermath of what took place... - [scoffs] - and the aftermath of what took place... - [scoffs]
586 00:34:43,206 00:34:48,544 [Thomas] But during that period of time, that's just not how it was passed. [Thomas] But during that period of time, that's just not how it was passed.
587 00:34:49,378 00:34:50,463 It just... Just wasn't. It just... Just wasn't.
588 00:34:50,546 00:34:53,049 You can go back and look at any of those old games, You can go back and look at any of those old games,
589 00:34:53,132 00:34:55,718 or whatever, when you lost, you left the floor. or whatever, when you lost, you left the floor.
590 00:34:56,969 00:35:02,100 [Jordan] All you gotta do is you go back to us losing in game seven. [Jordan] All you gotta do is you go back to us losing in game seven.
591 00:35:02,975 00:35:04,310 I shook everybody hand. I shook everybody hand.
592 00:35:05,269 00:35:06,604 Two years in a row. Two years in a row.
593 00:35:06,687 00:35:09,232 We shook their hands when they beat us. We shook their hands when they beat us.
594 00:35:09,315 00:35:13,778 There's a certain respect to the game that we paid to them. There's a certain respect to the game that we paid to them.
595 00:35:14,946 00:35:17,907 That's sportsmanship, no matter how much it hurts. That's sportsmanship, no matter how much it hurts.
596 00:35:18,533 00:35:20,409 And believe me, it fucking hurt. And believe me, it fucking hurt.
597 00:35:20,493 00:35:22,537 But they didn't have to shake our hands. But they didn't have to shake our hands.
598 00:35:22,620 00:35:24,497 We knew we whooped their ass already. We knew we whooped their ass already.
599 00:35:24,580 00:35:26,874 We'd gotten past them and that was the most... We'd gotten past them and that was the most...
600 00:35:26,958 00:35:30,503 To me, that was better than, in some ways, winning a championship. To me, that was better than, in some ways, winning a championship.
601 00:35:36,134 00:35:38,094 ["How Ya Like Me Now" playing] ["How Ya Like Me Now" playing]
602 00:35:39,303 00:35:43,141 Sweep! Sweep! Sweep! Sweep! Sweep! Sweep! Sweep! Sweep! Sweep! Sweep! Sweep! Sweep!
603 00:35:43,224 00:35:44,767 [indistinct chatter] [indistinct chatter]
604 00:35:44,851 00:35:47,478 ♪ I throw my tape on Then I watch ya ♪ ♪ I throw my tape on Then I watch ya ♪
605 00:35:47,562 00:35:50,064 ♪ Three seconds later, I got ya ♪ ♪ Three seconds later, I got ya ♪
606 00:35:50,148 00:35:52,150 ♪ Shakin' your head Dancin' instead of sittin' ♪ ♪ Shakin' your head Dancin' instead of sittin' ♪
607 00:35:52,233 00:35:54,569 ♪ The rhymes kick, the beats hittin' you ♪ ♪ The rhymes kick, the beats hittin' you ♪
608 00:35:54,652 00:35:56,946 ♪ Just like a home run Slammin' like a slam dunk ♪ ♪ Just like a home run Slammin' like a slam dunk ♪
609 00:35:57,029 00:35:59,031 ♪ Riding the wave That James Brown gave funk ♪ ♪ Riding the wave That James Brown gave funk ♪
610 00:35:59,115 00:36:01,159 ♪ It happened to James Like it happened to me ♪ ♪ It happened to James Like it happened to me ♪
611 00:36:01,242 00:36:04,203 ♪ How you think I feel To see another MC get paid ♪ ♪ How you think I feel To see another MC get paid ♪
612 00:36:04,287 00:36:06,330 ♪ Usin' my rap style ♪ ♪ Usin' my rap style ♪
613 00:36:06,414 00:36:08,374 ♪ And I'm playin' The background meanwhile ♪ ♪ And I'm playin' The background meanwhile ♪
614 00:36:08,457 00:36:10,668 ♪ I ain't with that You can't forget that ♪ ♪ I ain't with that You can't forget that ♪
615 00:36:10,751 00:36:12,670 ♪ You took my style, I'm takin' it back ♪ ♪ You took my style, I'm takin' it back ♪
616 00:36:12,753 00:36:15,131 ♪ Comin' back, like "Return of the Jedi" ♪ ♪ Comin' back, like "Return of the Jedi" ♪
617 00:36:16,132 00:36:20,219 [players chanting] Go, Jerry! Go, Jerry! Go, Jerry! [players chanting] Go, Jerry! Go, Jerry! Go, Jerry!
618 00:36:20,303 00:36:22,096 [chanting continues] [chanting continues]
619 00:36:27,685 00:36:30,354 - Go sit down, Jerry! - [all laughing] - Go sit down, Jerry! - [all laughing]
620 00:36:30,438 00:36:31,647 ♪ How ya like me now? ♪ ♪ How ya like me now? ♪
621 00:36:39,780 00:36:42,533 ♪ Now brothers are riding me like a pony ♪ ♪ Now brothers are riding me like a pony ♪
622 00:36:44,327 00:36:45,703 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
623 00:36:55,588 00:36:57,215 ♪ How ya like me now? ♪ ♪ How ya like me now? ♪
624 00:37:13,314 00:37:14,148 [news anchor] In sports, [news anchor] In sports,
625 00:37:14,232 00:37:17,318 the stage is set for the Air-Magic show in the NBA Finals. the stage is set for the Air-Magic show in the NBA Finals.
626 00:37:17,401 00:37:20,613 Starting Sunday, it'll be Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls Starting Sunday, it'll be Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls
627 00:37:20,696 00:37:23,157 against Magic Johnson and the LA Lakers. against Magic Johnson and the LA Lakers.
628 00:37:24,700 00:37:28,162 [Johnson] When you're a competitor, you want to play against the best. [Johnson] When you're a competitor, you want to play against the best.
629 00:37:28,246 00:37:29,705 I played against Larry, I played against Larry,
630 00:37:29,789 00:37:31,874 and I've always wanted to play against Michael. and I've always wanted to play against Michael.
631 00:37:33,417 00:37:35,795 [Jordan] Up until that point, there was a stigma that... [Jordan] Up until that point, there was a stigma that...
632 00:37:35,878 00:37:39,715 "Michael Jordan only wins scoring titles, never championships." "Michael Jordan only wins scoring titles, never championships."
633 00:37:40,299 00:37:42,510 That was my chance That was my chance
634 00:37:42,593 00:37:46,555 to get in the category of Larry Bird and Magic Johnson. to get in the category of Larry Bird and Magic Johnson.
635 00:37:47,265 00:37:49,892 I guess this is something that I've been waiting for. I guess this is something that I've been waiting for.
636 00:37:50,476 00:37:53,771 It's the team that's won it the most, in the time I've been in the league... It's the team that's won it the most, in the time I've been in the league...
637 00:37:53,854 00:37:56,983 Even though they may have that experience, we have that hunger. Even though they may have that experience, we have that hunger.
638 00:37:57,608 00:37:59,235 The NBA is a league of stars, The NBA is a league of stars,
639 00:37:59,318 00:38:02,863 and none shine brighter than Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan. and none shine brighter than Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan.
640 00:38:02,947 00:38:05,574 While much has been said about their respective teams, While much has been said about their respective teams,
641 00:38:05,658 00:38:08,786 nothing has been more anticipated than their individual match-up. nothing has been more anticipated than their individual match-up.
642 00:38:14,208 00:38:16,502 [commentator] We're set for the start of game one. [commentator] We're set for the start of game one.
643 00:38:16,585 00:38:19,297 The opening tip controlled by the LA Lakers, The opening tip controlled by the LA Lakers,
644 00:38:19,380 00:38:23,634 as Magic Johnson moves across, against Michael Jordan. as Magic Johnson moves across, against Michael Jordan.
645 00:38:24,719 00:38:27,013 You know, we were nervous. It's our first time, You know, we were nervous. It's our first time,
646 00:38:27,096 00:38:28,431 and we didn't even play well. and we didn't even play well.
647 00:38:28,514 00:38:30,641 [commentator] And now, Magic got it out for Worthy... [commentator] And now, Magic got it out for Worthy...
648 00:38:30,725 00:38:32,518 What a play! Magic Johnson... What a play! Magic Johnson...
649 00:38:32,601 00:38:34,895 [Aldridge] Sam Perkins hits a three at the end. [Aldridge] Sam Perkins hits a three at the end.
650 00:38:34,979 00:38:35,813 [commentator] He's got it! [commentator] He's got it!
651 00:38:35,896 00:38:37,648 [Aldridge] And the Bulls lose game one. [Aldridge] And the Bulls lose game one.
652 00:38:38,149 00:38:41,110 Everybody, including me, goes, "Lakers are gonna win this thing." Everybody, including me, goes, "Lakers are gonna win this thing."
653 00:38:41,193 00:38:44,739 [Jordan] They beat us on our home court, but in our minds, [Jordan] They beat us on our home court, but in our minds,
654 00:38:45,323 00:38:47,908 we had a chance to beat them, and we didn't even play good. we had a chance to beat them, and we didn't even play good.
655 00:38:47,992 00:38:49,785 We were looking forward to game two. We were looking forward to game two.
656 00:38:49,869 00:38:54,457 [commentator] We are set for game two of the NBA Finals. [commentator] We are set for game two of the NBA Finals.
657 00:38:54,540 00:38:57,001 [Aldridge] So, game two, Jordan goes nuts. [Aldridge] So, game two, Jordan goes nuts.
658 00:38:57,084 00:38:58,336 [commentator] Over Scott. [commentator] Over Scott.
659 00:38:59,128 00:39:00,963 Michael Jordan on fire. Michael Jordan on fire.
660 00:39:01,047 00:39:05,134 He's got it. Twelve straight field goals for Michael Jordan! He's got it. Twelve straight field goals for Michael Jordan!
661 00:39:05,843 00:39:08,596 Look away, to Levingston... Jordan... Look away, to Levingston... Jordan...
662 00:39:09,805 00:39:14,226 Oh! A spectacular move by Michael Jordan! Oh! A spectacular move by Michael Jordan!
663 00:39:14,310 00:39:18,105 That's 13 consecutive field goals! That's 13 consecutive field goals!
664 00:39:18,189 00:39:19,440 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
665 00:39:24,862 00:39:27,257 [commentator 2] The change of putting Pippen on Magic Johnson [commentator 2] The change of putting Pippen on Magic Johnson
666 00:39:27,281 00:39:28,491 rather than Michael Jordan... rather than Michael Jordan...
667 00:39:28,574 00:39:31,118 [Aldridge]Johnson's the greatest point guard I've ever seen, [Aldridge]Johnson's the greatest point guard I've ever seen,
668 00:39:31,202 00:39:34,121 and Scottie Pippen was picking Magic Johnson up full court. and Scottie Pippen was picking Magic Johnson up full court.
669 00:39:35,122 00:39:36,999 Nobody did that. Nobody did that.
670 00:39:37,958 00:39:41,754 [Jordan] Scottie accepted that challenge and I knew what Scottie was gonna do. [Jordan] Scottie accepted that challenge and I knew what Scottie was gonna do.
671 00:39:41,837 00:39:43,672 I see it in practice all the time. I see it in practice all the time.
672 00:39:43,756 00:39:46,384 He gets up in your face and he harasses you and... He gets up in your face and he harasses you and...
673 00:39:46,467 00:39:48,010 Pip never let him get started. Pip never let him get started.
674 00:39:52,515 00:39:54,642 [commentator] The crowd reacts to Scottie Pippen [commentator] The crowd reacts to Scottie Pippen
675 00:39:54,725 00:39:58,270 who did a tremendous job in defending against Magic... who did a tremendous job in defending against Magic...
676 00:39:58,354 00:40:01,899 Once we did that in game two, we never looked back. Once we did that in game two, we never looked back.
677 00:40:02,483 00:40:04,568 [commentator] Jordan around Divac. [commentator] Jordan around Divac.
678 00:40:05,569 00:40:11,575 Chicago Bulls take a 2-1 lead in the best of seven. Chicago Bulls take a 2-1 lead in the best of seven.
679 00:40:11,659 00:40:14,495 And Teagle now one for six, and it leads to this! And Teagle now one for six, and it leads to this!
680 00:40:15,579 00:40:20,501 The Chicago Bulls come away with a resounding victory. The Chicago Bulls come away with a resounding victory.
681 00:40:20,584 00:40:21,836 [buzzer sounds] [buzzer sounds]
682 00:40:21,919 00:40:24,296 [commentator] In command virtually all the way. [commentator] In command virtually all the way.
683 00:40:26,715 00:40:30,511 [commentator] And it's this simple, the Lakers have to win three in a row. [commentator] And it's this simple, the Lakers have to win three in a row.
684 00:40:30,594 00:40:32,388 Game five, moments away. Game five, moments away.
685 00:40:33,139 00:40:34,890 Hello, I'm Bob Costas. Hello, I'm Bob Costas.
686 00:40:34,974 00:40:36,976 This is the Larry O'Brien Trophy. This is the Larry O'Brien Trophy.
687 00:40:37,059 00:40:39,478 All indications are that by evening's end, All indications are that by evening's end,
688 00:40:39,562 00:40:41,689 it'll be in the possession of the Chicago Bulls. it'll be in the possession of the Chicago Bulls.
689 00:40:44,650 00:40:49,697 Game five was a great back-and-forth, back-and-forth game. Game five was a great back-and-forth, back-and-forth game.
690 00:40:50,322 00:40:52,241 [commentator] Magic fires for Smith... [commentator] Magic fires for Smith...
691 00:40:52,324 00:40:53,324 Good recovery... Good recovery...
692 00:40:53,367 00:40:54,367 It counts! It counts!
693 00:40:55,077 00:40:57,246 Lakers with a one-point lead. Lakers with a one-point lead.
694 00:40:57,329 00:40:59,415 Jordan with a gorgeous move. Jordan with a gorgeous move.
695 00:40:59,498 00:41:00,958 The Bulls lead it by three. The Bulls lead it by three.
696 00:41:01,041 00:41:02,251 Magic... Magic...
697 00:41:02,877 00:41:04,211 Drops it off... Drops it off...
698 00:41:04,295 00:41:09,341 After three, the Bulls and the Lakers are tied at 80. After three, the Bulls and the Lakers are tied at 80.
699 00:41:12,303 00:41:15,097 [Aldridge] So, the fourth quarter, it's a precarious lead. [Aldridge] So, the fourth quarter, it's a precarious lead.
700 00:41:15,181 00:41:19,477 So, during a timeout, Phil asks Michael, So, during a timeout, Phil asks Michael,
701 00:41:19,560 00:41:21,729 "MJ, who's open?" And he goes, "Paxson." "MJ, who's open?" And he goes, "Paxson."
702 00:41:21,812 00:41:23,397 He goes, "Then get him the ball." He goes, "Then get him the ball."
703 00:41:23,481 00:41:24,982 You don't have to shoot that shot. You don't have to shoot that shot.
704 00:41:25,065 00:41:26,567 Run around to the point. Run around to the point.
705 00:41:26,650 00:41:28,194 John's open right there. John's open right there.
706 00:41:28,277 00:41:29,820 You can still create. You can still create.
707 00:41:29,904 00:41:30,821 All right? All right?
708 00:41:30,905 00:41:32,740 He's hitting shots. He's hitting shots.
709 00:41:32,823 00:41:37,036 Phil said, you know, forcefully, "Paxson is open, get him the ball." Phil said, you know, forcefully, "Paxson is open, get him the ball."
710 00:41:37,119 00:41:38,954 And I started looking for Paxson. And I started looking for Paxson.
711 00:41:39,038 00:41:43,501 Everybody in the world's expecting Jordan to force something through a double team. Everybody in the world's expecting Jordan to force something through a double team.
712 00:41:44,960 00:41:46,712 He doesn't do it. He draws and dishes. He doesn't do it. He draws and dishes.
713 00:41:47,588 00:41:49,298 [commentator] Paxson open again... [commentator] Paxson open again...
714 00:41:50,090 00:41:53,469 He trusts his teammate to make the shot. He trusts his teammate to make the shot.
715 00:41:53,552 00:41:57,389 Once Pax hits that first shot, "Oh, okay. Fine. Once Pax hits that first shot, "Oh, okay. Fine.
716 00:41:57,473 00:42:00,142 Let me do this again. Penetrate, find Pax." Let me do this again. Penetrate, find Pax."
717 00:42:00,226 00:42:02,645 And he kept hitting 'em, kept hitting 'em. And he kept hitting 'em, kept hitting 'em.
718 00:42:02,728 00:42:05,231 [commentator] Again! Eighteen for Paxson! [commentator] Again! Eighteen for Paxson!
719 00:42:05,314 00:42:08,609 That was exactly what Phil was trying to get Michael to understand That was exactly what Phil was trying to get Michael to understand
720 00:42:08,692 00:42:10,694 and believe in over the couple years, is that, and believe in over the couple years, is that,
721 00:42:10,778 00:42:12,571 "These other guys can help you out." "These other guys can help you out."
722 00:42:12,655 00:42:16,033 [commentator] It is a two-point lead for Chicago. [commentator] It is a two-point lead for Chicago.
723 00:42:16,116 00:42:17,243 Paxson! Paxson!
724 00:42:17,326 00:42:20,162 Yes! John Paxson again! Yes! John Paxson again!
725 00:42:20,788 00:42:26,585 The Chicago Bulls have won their first-ever NBA championship! The Chicago Bulls have won their first-ever NBA championship!
726 00:42:44,353 00:42:45,646 [imperceptible] [imperceptible]
727 00:42:47,731 00:42:49,149 [all cheering] [all cheering]
728 00:42:54,363 00:42:55,614 You did it the right way. You did it the right way.
729 00:42:55,698 00:42:56,991 You did it the right way. You did it the right way.
730 00:42:58,117 00:42:59,451 [Jordan exclaiming] [Jordan exclaiming]
731 00:43:02,496 00:43:03,330 I love you. I love you.
732 00:43:03,414 00:43:04,623 - Scottie... - [man] Yes! - Scottie... - [man] Yes!
733 00:43:11,547 00:43:14,883 [Jordan] When you get to that finish line and you know that you won... [Jordan] When you get to that finish line and you know that you won...
734 00:43:14,967 00:43:17,595 all those emotions that you wrapped up into, all those emotions that you wrapped up into,
735 00:43:17,678 00:43:18,929 you can just let go. you can just let go.
736 00:43:19,013 00:43:20,347 I'm so happy. I'm so happy.
737 00:43:23,434 00:43:24,643 Everybody knows... Everybody knows...
738 00:43:24,727 00:43:28,981 Has the picture in their mind of when we beat Cleveland on that last shot Has the picture in their mind of when we beat Cleveland on that last shot
739 00:43:29,064 00:43:31,692 and he's punching the air, he's all excited. and he's punching the air, he's all excited.
740 00:43:31,775 00:43:35,571 That's who we knew, the competitive Michael Jordan. That's who we knew, the competitive Michael Jordan.
741 00:43:37,948 00:43:39,867 The win-at-all-costs Michael Jordan. The win-at-all-costs Michael Jordan.
742 00:43:41,910 00:43:44,121 Sometimes we'd question whether he was human, Sometimes we'd question whether he was human,
743 00:43:44,622 00:43:46,081 whether he had feelings. whether he had feelings.
744 00:43:47,541 00:43:50,753 A guy that was totally focused on one thing and one thing only. A guy that was totally focused on one thing and one thing only.
745 00:43:51,712 00:43:53,756 The only emotion we had ever seen out of him The only emotion we had ever seen out of him
746 00:43:53,839 00:43:55,299 was anger or frustration. was anger or frustration.
747 00:43:55,966 00:43:59,303 We were literally stunned to see those emotions. We were literally stunned to see those emotions.
748 00:44:01,180 00:44:02,389 Seven-year struggle. Seven-year struggle.
749 00:44:02,973 00:44:04,058 Seven-year struggle. Seven-year struggle.
750 00:44:06,852 00:44:09,563 [Johnson] And when they beat us, well, [Johnson] And when they beat us, well,
751 00:44:09,647 00:44:14,068 we met in between both locker rooms, and he put his arms... we met in between both locker rooms, and he put his arms...
752 00:44:14,652 00:44:15,653 and started crying. and started crying.
753 00:44:15,736 00:44:19,239 He was so happy that he had won, that he busted through. He was so happy that he had won, that he busted through.
754 00:44:19,323 00:44:23,202 That was a special moment for him and myself. That was a special moment for him and myself.
755 00:44:23,952 00:44:25,496 It's a beautiful feeling. It's a beautiful feeling.
756 00:44:25,579 00:44:27,539 If you're gonna lose, you lose to them. If you're gonna lose, you lose to them.
757 00:44:27,623 00:44:29,375 I'm going to lose to Michael. I'm going to lose to Michael.
758 00:44:29,458 00:44:31,919 And that... That's how... how it should be. And that... That's how... how it should be.
759 00:44:33,420 00:44:36,173 [Jordan] At last, I fit somewhere in [Jordan] At last, I fit somewhere in
760 00:44:36,256 00:44:39,009 the category of Larry Bird and Magic Johnson. the category of Larry Bird and Magic Johnson.
761 00:44:39,093 00:44:40,928 [people cheering and whistling] [people cheering and whistling]
762 00:45:10,249 00:45:11,709 Shit! C'mon, drop my money down. Shit! C'mon, drop my money down.
763 00:45:11,792 00:45:13,645 [Grant] You said I can't show nobody what I give you. [Grant] You said I can't show nobody what I give you.
764 00:45:13,669 00:45:16,213 No. We're here. Don't show it to anybody. Let me show it. No. We're here. Don't show it to anybody. Let me show it.
765 00:45:16,296 00:45:17,673 [Grant laughs] [Grant laughs]
766 00:45:17,756 00:45:18,756 [Jordan] Yeah. [Jordan] Yeah.
767 00:45:19,508 00:45:21,009 Denver. Denver. Denver. Denver.
768 00:45:23,595 00:45:25,389 How 'bout them Broncos? How 'bout them Broncos?
769 00:45:26,849 00:45:29,059 Hey! Hey! Cheesehead! Hey! Hey! Cheesehead!
770 00:45:30,728 00:45:34,022 Security. Security. Security. Security.
771 00:45:36,316 00:45:38,110 This man never gets sleep. This man never gets sleep.
772 00:45:38,193 00:45:41,238 - Dennis Rodman... Junior. - [laughs] Come on. - Dennis Rodman... Junior. - [laughs] Come on.
773 00:45:41,321 00:45:43,031 Hey, hey, don't say it on camera. Hey, hey, don't say it on camera.
774 00:45:43,115 00:45:45,909 He never gets his sleep. Single man. Thinks he can hang out all night. He never gets his sleep. Single man. Thinks he can hang out all night.
775 00:45:45,993 00:45:47,995 Hey, hey, don't put that on tape. Hey, hey, don't put that on tape.
776 00:45:48,704 00:45:50,122 Don't put that on... Hey, M. Don't put that on... Hey, M.
777 00:45:50,205 00:45:51,790 - If he committed to one girl... - M... - If he committed to one girl... - M...
778 00:45:51,874 00:45:53,125 - M, come on. - It's a lie. - M, come on. - It's a lie.
779 00:45:53,208 00:45:54,877 It's a lie, he's out every night. It's a lie, he's out every night.
780 00:45:54,960 00:45:56,962 Do not put this on tape right here. Do not put this on tape right here.
781 00:45:57,045 00:45:59,423 - Why not? Get some sleep, man! - That's messed up. - Why not? Get some sleep, man! - That's messed up.
782 00:45:59,506 00:46:00,841 I get a whole lot of sleep. I get a whole lot of sleep.
783 00:46:00,924 00:46:03,218 - You've got a hangover this morning. - No, I... M. - You've got a hangover this morning. - No, I... M.
784 00:46:03,302 00:46:05,512 My mom and dad are gonna watch this, M. My mom and dad are gonna watch this, M.
785 00:46:05,596 00:46:07,181 Mom and dad, he's an alcoholic. Mom and dad, he's an alcoholic.
786 00:46:07,264 00:46:08,098 Hey. Hey.
787 00:46:08,182 00:46:09,224 [players laughing] [players laughing]
788 00:46:10,559 00:46:14,354 [Jordan] Hey, hey, Phil, he can't work for the media and be on this plane. [Jordan] Hey, hey, Phil, he can't work for the media and be on this plane.
789 00:46:14,438 00:46:17,649 Right here, see him? The highest-paid media guy in the world. Right here, see him? The highest-paid media guy in the world.
790 00:46:18,650 00:46:20,402 Come on, Ahmad makes more than me. Come on, Ahmad makes more than me.
791 00:46:20,486 00:46:24,656 [Jordan] No. He wishes, though. He wishes he does. Believe me. [Jordan] No. He wishes, though. He wishes he does. Believe me.
792 00:46:28,243 00:46:29,536 The FC finally won. The FC finally won.
793 00:46:30,245 00:46:33,624 It's actually kind of like a sign of times are changing. It's actually kind of like a sign of times are changing.
794 00:46:33,707 00:46:35,584 Might be changing the NBA, too. Might be changing the NBA, too.
795 00:46:41,465 00:46:43,185 [reporter] While the Bulls were on the road, [reporter] While the Bulls were on the road,
796 00:46:43,258 00:46:45,594 their GM took his shot back home. their GM took his shot back home.
797 00:46:45,677 00:46:49,306 Jerry Krause again made his plans for next season very clear. Jerry Krause again made his plans for next season very clear.
798 00:46:49,389 00:46:52,351 Coach Jackson won't be back. And with Michael Jordan on record Coach Jackson won't be back. And with Michael Jordan on record
799 00:46:52,434 00:46:54,728 as saying he won't play for anyone other than Jackson, as saying he won't play for anyone other than Jackson,
800 00:46:54,812 00:46:56,563 Krause told the Chicago Tribune, Krause told the Chicago Tribune,
801 00:46:56,647 00:47:00,734 "If Michael chooses to leave because there is another coach here, "If Michael chooses to leave because there is another coach here,
802 00:47:00,818 00:47:02,361 then it's his choice, not ours. then it's his choice, not ours.
803 00:47:02,444 00:47:03,946 We would love to have Michael back. We would love to have Michael back.
804 00:47:04,029 00:47:06,240 But Michael is going to have to play for someone else. But Michael is going to have to play for someone else.
805 00:47:06,323 00:47:08,075 It isn't going to be Phil." It isn't going to be Phil."
806 00:47:08,784 00:47:10,744 If Phil's not back, then certainly I'm not back. If Phil's not back, then certainly I'm not back.
807 00:47:10,828 00:47:14,039 So, I mean, you know, it doesn't leave me with any other choices, So, I mean, you know, it doesn't leave me with any other choices,
808 00:47:14,122 00:47:15,582 but not to play next year. but not to play next year.
809 00:47:15,666 00:47:19,086 There's no room at all for you coming back under any other circumstances? There's no room at all for you coming back under any other circumstances?
810 00:47:19,169 00:47:20,462 No. None. None at all. No. None. None at all.
811 00:47:25,467 00:47:27,147 [Storm] The Bulls were dominating the east. [Storm] The Bulls were dominating the east.
812 00:47:27,177 00:47:28,697 The east didn't seem to be a question. The east didn't seem to be a question.
813 00:47:28,762 00:47:30,097 The question was out west The question was out west
814 00:47:30,180 00:47:33,517 with the team that they had met in the finals the year before, Utah. with the team that they had met in the finals the year before, Utah.
815 00:47:35,227 00:47:38,438 Now, keep in mind, this was probably a finals preview. Now, keep in mind, this was probably a finals preview.
816 00:47:40,107 00:47:42,150 This is the litmus test. This is the litmus test.
817 00:47:44,069 00:47:46,196 [Stockton] Good evening. Welcome to the Delta Center. [Stockton] Good evening. Welcome to the Delta Center.
818 00:47:46,280 00:47:48,282 The thing that's really surprising The thing that's really surprising
819 00:47:48,365 00:47:51,743 is the timing of that story by Jerry Krause. is the timing of that story by Jerry Krause.
820 00:47:51,827 00:47:55,998 [Brown] Yeah, Dick, unfortunately, it's very cold. It's sad. [Brown] Yeah, Dick, unfortunately, it's very cold. It's sad.
821 00:47:56,081 00:47:57,916 And if you really think about this, And if you really think about this,
822 00:47:58,000 00:48:01,086 performance and loyalty, by the coaches and players, performance and loyalty, by the coaches and players,
823 00:48:01,169 00:48:03,463 are being just thrown out the window. are being just thrown out the window.
824 00:48:05,507 00:48:08,552 [Stockton] And the Bulls starting out solidly, lead 8-2. [Stockton] And the Bulls starting out solidly, lead 8-2.
825 00:48:09,511 00:48:12,431 Here's Rodman, after Pippen got the loose ball, Here's Rodman, after Pippen got the loose ball,
826 00:48:12,514 00:48:15,726 and Jordan hits the open shot! The Bulls are doing it all. and Jordan hits the open shot! The Bulls are doing it all.
827 00:48:15,809 00:48:17,060 It has been all Bulls... It has been all Bulls...
828 00:48:17,144 00:48:20,647 Great pass from Longley to a cutting Scottie Pippen. Great pass from Longley to a cutting Scottie Pippen.
829 00:48:21,440 00:48:24,610 And it's a 47-24 lead. And it's a 47-24 lead.
830 00:48:24,693 00:48:27,154 The Chicago Bulls are running the Jazz wild The Chicago Bulls are running the Jazz wild
831 00:48:27,237 00:48:28,572 on the Jazz home court. on the Jazz home court.
832 00:48:28,655 00:48:30,782 Loose ball, Karl Malone... Loose ball, Karl Malone...
833 00:48:30,866 00:48:32,506 - Dennis... There it is. - [whistle blows] - Dennis... There it is. - [whistle blows]
834 00:48:32,534 00:48:34,745 [Stockton] Down goes Malone and Rodman. [Stockton] Down goes Malone and Rodman.
835 00:48:34,828 00:48:36,204 A double foul will be called. A double foul will be called.
836 00:48:36,288 00:48:39,917 [Brown] You can see that this could ignite something here that we don't need. [Brown] You can see that this could ignite something here that we don't need.
837 00:48:40,000 00:48:43,712 [Stockton] The Jazz with a 7-0 run of their own here. [Stockton] The Jazz with a 7-0 run of their own here.
838 00:48:43,795 00:48:45,839 It's an eight-point game, believe it or not. It's an eight-point game, believe it or not.
839 00:48:45,923 00:48:47,799 This is as close as the Jazz have come. This is as close as the Jazz have come.
840 00:48:48,467 00:48:50,344 Malone over Pippen, he's got it. Malone over Pippen, he's got it.
841 00:48:50,427 00:48:52,512 [announcer] He's got it, he's right. [announcer] He's got it, he's right.
842 00:48:52,596 00:48:54,890 - He's un... - [Stockton] Yeah. Unstoppable. - He's un... - [Stockton] Yeah. Unstoppable.
843 00:48:56,850 00:49:00,062 Yes! And the Jazz have come back big! Yes! And the Jazz have come back big!
844 00:49:00,145 00:49:04,691 Standing ovation for the Jazz, who had to fight way back in this game. Standing ovation for the Jazz, who had to fight way back in this game.
845 00:49:04,775 00:49:09,863 Utah Jazz ending up sweeping the Chicago Bulls this year, Utah Jazz ending up sweeping the Chicago Bulls this year,
846 00:49:09,947 00:49:11,782 winning here in Salt Lake City. winning here in Salt Lake City.
847 00:49:12,491 00:49:14,242 But Jerry Krause, the big question is, But Jerry Krause, the big question is,
848 00:49:14,326 00:49:16,536 "Why now, come out with a statement like this, "Why now, come out with a statement like this,
849 00:49:16,620 00:49:19,331 at the All-Star break?" It's something for after the season. at the All-Star break?" It's something for after the season.
850 00:49:19,414 00:49:22,501 [Brown] I think it's just a bad case of judgment on his part. [Brown] I think it's just a bad case of judgment on his part.
851 00:49:22,584 00:49:25,003 [Stockton] This looks like a reality check for everybody. [Stockton] This looks like a reality check for everybody.
852 00:49:25,087 00:49:26,922 Is this the end of the Bulls as we know them? Is this the end of the Bulls as we know them?