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1 | 00:00:19,019 | 00:00:20,379 | [Rodman] I could have been a bomb, | [Rodman] I could have been a bomb, |
2 | 00:00:20,437 | 00:00:22,397 | I could have been in jail, I could have been dead. | I could have been in jail, I could have been dead. |
3 | 00:00:22,439 | 00:00:24,524 | But I worked my ass off to get here. | But I worked my ass off to get here. |
4 | 00:00:33,033 | 00:00:35,368 | You hear a lot of negative things about Dennis Rodman. | You hear a lot of negative things about Dennis Rodman. |
5 | 00:00:35,827 | 00:00:37,746 | Well, people don't actually know Dennis Rodman. | Well, people don't actually know Dennis Rodman. |
6 | 00:00:37,829 | 00:00:40,707 | They just see what they see on the court and read in the papers, | They just see what they see on the court and read in the papers, |
7 | 00:00:40,790 | 00:00:42,792 | and they say, "God, he's a bad person." | and they say, "God, he's a bad person." |
8 | 00:00:44,419 | 00:00:46,880 | [interviewer] Does it hurt you that the public perceives you | [interviewer] Does it hurt you that the public perceives you |
9 | 00:00:46,963 | 00:00:49,215 | as this bombastic, crazy guy? | as this bombastic, crazy guy? |
10 | 00:00:50,258 | 00:00:53,094 | No, I just think that I created this monster. | No, I just think that I created this monster. |
11 | 00:00:56,097 | 00:01:00,018 | But, uh, nobody could say anything bad about me as a teammate. | But, uh, nobody could say anything bad about me as a teammate. |
12 | 00:01:01,394 | 00:01:03,104 | You got the great Michael Jordan, | You got the great Michael Jordan, |
13 | 00:01:03,188 | 00:01:05,315 | the great Scottie Pippen, the great Phil Jackson, | the great Scottie Pippen, the great Phil Jackson, |
14 | 00:01:05,899 | 00:01:10,278 | but if you take me away from this team, do they still win a championship? | but if you take me away from this team, do they still win a championship? |
15 | 00:01:11,946 | 00:01:13,114 | I don't think so. | I don't think so. |
16 | 00:01:15,200 | 00:01:18,745 | I love Michael Jordan to death. I love Scottie Pippen, all these guys, | I love Michael Jordan to death. I love Scottie Pippen, all these guys, |
17 | 00:01:18,828 | 00:01:21,372 | but they really don't do the things that I do. | but they really don't do the things that I do. |
18 | 00:01:25,543 | 00:01:27,629 | I'm the only guy who does all the dirty work, | I'm the only guy who does all the dirty work, |
19 | 00:01:27,712 | 00:01:29,339 | taking abuse from other players. | taking abuse from other players. |
20 | 00:01:31,174 | 00:01:33,843 | I wanna go out there and get my nose broke, I wanna get cut. | I wanna go out there and get my nose broke, I wanna get cut. |
21 | 00:01:35,220 | 00:01:37,722 | Something that's gonna really just bring out the... | Something that's gonna really just bring out the... |
22 | 00:01:38,598 | 00:01:40,642 | the hurt, the pain. | the hurt, the pain. |
23 | 00:01:41,518 | 00:01:42,644 | I wanna feel that. | I wanna feel that. |
24 | 00:01:46,272 | 00:01:47,774 | [commentator 1] A spectacular move! | [commentator 1] A spectacular move! |
25 | 00:01:47,857 | 00:01:49,442 | [commentator 2] The game's over! | [commentator 2] The game's over! |
26 | 00:01:49,526 | 00:01:51,861 | [commentator 3] Chicago Stadium is going wild! | [commentator 3] Chicago Stadium is going wild! |
27 | 00:01:53,822 | 00:01:56,324 | [Jackson] First of all, there's no backstabbing going on here. | [Jackson] First of all, there's no backstabbing going on here. |
28 | 00:01:56,407 | 00:01:57,283 | It's time for me to move on. | It's time for me to move on. |
29 | 00:01:57,367 | 00:01:59,767 | [Krause] This will be Phil's last year as coach of the Bulls. | [Krause] This will be Phil's last year as coach of the Bulls. |
30 | 00:02:02,372 | 00:02:04,934 | [man 1] Are the expectations too high? [man 2] Where do we go from here? | [man 1] Are the expectations too high? [man 2] Where do we go from here? |
31 | 00:02:04,958 | 00:02:07,460 | [woman] The only question: how long can it last? | [woman] The only question: how long can it last? |
32 | 00:02:23,977 | 00:02:27,272 | [analyst 1] They still might be considered world champs, but so far this season, | [analyst 1] They still might be considered world champs, but so far this season, |
33 | 00:02:27,355 | 00:02:30,608 | the Chicago Bulls have looked more like that old circus act from the '80s | the Chicago Bulls have looked more like that old circus act from the '80s |
34 | 00:02:30,692 | 00:02:33,111 | called "Michael and his Jordanaires." | called "Michael and his Jordanaires." |
35 | 00:02:33,194 | 00:02:36,406 | [analyst 2] They need help. They're reeling, looking average. | [analyst 2] They need help. They're reeling, looking average. |
36 | 00:02:36,906 | 00:02:38,908 | [analyst 1] As for MJ's supporting cast, | [analyst 1] As for MJ's supporting cast, |
37 | 00:02:38,992 | 00:02:41,286 | Rodman is having trouble getting out of the gate. | Rodman is having trouble getting out of the gate. |
38 | 00:02:43,621 | 00:02:47,167 | [reporter] Michael, are you tired of talking about Pippen and all that yet? | [reporter] Michael, are you tired of talking about Pippen and all that yet? |
39 | 00:02:47,250 | 00:02:48,334 | [Jordan] Pretty much. | [Jordan] Pretty much. |
40 | 00:02:49,335 | 00:02:51,713 | Until something happens, until he says what he's gonna do, | Until something happens, until he says what he's gonna do, |
41 | 00:02:51,796 | 00:02:53,840 | we have to continue on. We gotta do our jobs. | we have to continue on. We gotta do our jobs. |
42 | 00:02:57,218 | 00:02:58,469 | [man] Let's go, fellas. | [man] Let's go, fellas. |
43 | 00:02:58,553 | 00:02:59,721 | [crowd cheering] | [crowd cheering] |
44 | 00:03:00,805 | 00:03:03,805 | [commentator] First meeting with Michael the player against Larry the coach. | [commentator] First meeting with Michael the player against Larry the coach. |
45 | 00:03:03,850 | 00:03:05,643 | Bulls and Pacers. | Bulls and Pacers. |
46 | 00:03:06,895 | 00:03:08,897 | Dennis Rodman, blocked by Dale Davis. | Dennis Rodman, blocked by Dale Davis. |
47 | 00:03:08,980 | 00:03:10,106 | Reggie Miller. | Reggie Miller. |
48 | 00:03:10,732 | 00:03:13,401 | Look at the crossover, right past Jordan for the hoop. | Look at the crossover, right past Jordan for the hoop. |
49 | 00:03:13,484 | 00:03:16,029 | Phil Jackson, we've seen that look before this year. | Phil Jackson, we've seen that look before this year. |
50 | 00:03:16,112 | 00:03:18,823 | Pacers go on to the win, dropping the Bulls to 8-7. | Pacers go on to the win, dropping the Bulls to 8-7. |
51 | 00:03:18,907 | 00:03:22,035 | Last season, Chicago didn't lose their seventh until game 56. | Last season, Chicago didn't lose their seventh until game 56. |
52 | 00:03:22,493 | 00:03:23,953 | We missed a lot of easy shots. | We missed a lot of easy shots. |
53 | 00:03:24,037 | 00:03:25,717 | We haven't shot the ball particularly well. | We haven't shot the ball particularly well. |
54 | 00:03:26,247 | 00:03:28,917 | But, uh, tonight what killed us was our rebounding. | But, uh, tonight what killed us was our rebounding. |
55 | 00:03:29,000 | 00:03:30,501 | Our rebounding was horrendous. | Our rebounding was horrendous. |
56 | 00:03:31,085 | 00:03:33,366 | We couldn't get the rebound, we couldn't clear the boards. | We couldn't get the rebound, we couldn't clear the boards. |
57 | 00:03:35,840 | 00:03:39,928 | [Jackson] Dennis is kind of lagging back there behind everybody else | [Jackson] Dennis is kind of lagging back there behind everybody else |
58 | 00:03:40,011 | 00:03:43,097 | in, you know, his enthusiasm for the game right now. | in, you know, his enthusiasm for the game right now. |
59 | 00:03:43,890 | 00:03:46,434 | Dennis Rodman's the best on-ball defender | Dennis Rodman's the best on-ball defender |
60 | 00:03:46,517 | 00:03:49,479 | I've ever seen in 30 years. | I've ever seen in 30 years. |
61 | 00:03:50,980 | 00:03:55,944 | The problem was that he wasn't always motivated to play. | The problem was that he wasn't always motivated to play. |
62 | 00:03:56,027 | 00:03:58,446 | It's another one of those periods that I'm bored as hell. | It's another one of those periods that I'm bored as hell. |
63 | 00:03:58,529 | 00:04:02,242 | I gotta find some way to put a log on the fire. | I gotta find some way to put a log on the fire. |
64 | 00:04:04,869 | 00:04:07,247 | ...that's a low blow down here, right? Intentional foul. | ...that's a low blow down here, right? Intentional foul. |
65 | 00:04:07,330 | 00:04:08,581 | I didn't see it that way. | I didn't see it that way. |
66 | 00:04:09,415 | 00:04:11,251 | There's a lot of things I don't see. | There's a lot of things I don't see. |
67 | 00:04:15,421 | 00:04:17,757 | Most of the time, though, I see the shit you do. | Most of the time, though, I see the shit you do. |
68 | 00:04:21,970 | 00:04:23,850 | [Jordan] Dennis hadn't accepted the role that... | [Jordan] Dennis hadn't accepted the role that... |
69 | 00:04:24,722 | 00:04:28,101 | Scottie wasn't gonna be around and we needed you to be more accountable. | Scottie wasn't gonna be around and we needed you to be more accountable. |
70 | 00:04:28,184 | 00:04:29,727 | I need to count on you. | I need to count on you. |
71 | 00:04:30,311 | 00:04:35,358 | So, around that time, we had a game, and he gets kicked out for some shit. | So, around that time, we had a game, and he gets kicked out for some shit. |
72 | 00:04:36,484 | 00:04:39,654 | And I'm livid, because he got kicked out of the game | And I'm livid, because he got kicked out of the game |
73 | 00:04:39,737 | 00:04:42,657 | and leaves me out there by myself 'cause Scottie's not playing. | and leaves me out there by myself 'cause Scottie's not playing. |
74 | 00:04:43,241 | 00:04:45,994 | And Dennis knew he fucked up. He knew he screwed up. | And Dennis knew he fucked up. He knew he screwed up. |
75 | 00:04:47,829 | 00:04:50,456 | I hear someone knocking on my door at the hotel. | I hear someone knocking on my door at the hotel. |
76 | 00:04:51,291 | 00:04:53,334 | Now, Dennis never comes in my room, | Now, Dennis never comes in my room, |
77 | 00:04:53,418 | 00:04:56,045 | and he comes and says, "Man, you got an extra cigar?" | and he comes and says, "Man, you got an extra cigar?" |
78 | 00:04:56,838 | 00:04:59,340 | I went to Michael Jordan's room, asked for a cigar, but... | I went to Michael Jordan's room, asked for a cigar, but... |
79 | 00:04:59,757 | 00:05:02,844 | But I think that he knew the fact that... | But I think that he knew the fact that... |
80 | 00:05:03,386 | 00:05:04,887 | That's probably his way... | That's probably his way... |
81 | 00:05:04,971 | 00:05:08,683 | Of me showing him that, you know, "Man, my thing, my bad." | Of me showing him that, you know, "Man, my thing, my bad." |
82 | 00:05:09,684 | 00:05:11,853 | He didn't say an apology, he didn't say anything, | He didn't say an apology, he didn't say anything, |
83 | 00:05:12,437 | 00:05:13,813 | but by him coming to my room, | but by him coming to my room, |
84 | 00:05:13,896 | 00:05:16,024 | it was his way of saying, "Look, I fucked up." | it was his way of saying, "Look, I fucked up." |
85 | 00:05:17,233 | 00:05:20,236 | And from that point on, Dennis was straight as an arrow. | And from that point on, Dennis was straight as an arrow. |
86 | 00:05:20,820 | 00:05:22,238 | And we started to win. | And we started to win. |
87 | 00:05:22,322 | 00:05:24,032 | [man] I'd like to ask y'all one question. | [man] I'd like to ask y'all one question. |
88 | 00:05:24,115 | 00:05:26,451 | - What time is it? - [all] Game time! [grunt] | - What time is it? - [all] Game time! [grunt] |
89 | 00:05:36,878 | 00:05:40,298 | When Scottie left, I think Mike had a lot of confidence in me | When Scottie left, I think Mike had a lot of confidence in me |
90 | 00:05:40,381 | 00:05:42,467 | to know that I'm gonna be there for him. | to know that I'm gonna be there for him. |
91 | 00:05:42,550 | 00:05:45,178 | I'm not going to let him down, I'm not going to let the team down, | I'm not going to let him down, I'm not going to let the team down, |
92 | 00:05:45,261 | 00:05:46,846 | let the city down. No. | let the city down. No. |
93 | 00:05:48,973 | 00:05:51,768 | [commentator 1] Rodman clears the defensive board for the Bulls. | [commentator 1] Rodman clears the defensive board for the Bulls. |
94 | 00:05:54,562 | 00:05:58,107 | [commentator 2] Nets gave it a whirl, but just did not have enough. | [commentator 2] Nets gave it a whirl, but just did not have enough. |
95 | 00:05:58,191 | 00:06:03,905 | The defending champion Chicago Bulls knocked off the New Jersey Nets 100 to 92. | The defending champion Chicago Bulls knocked off the New Jersey Nets 100 to 92. |
96 | 00:06:03,988 | 00:06:06,699 | Dennis is what held us together when Scottie was out. | Dennis is what held us together when Scottie was out. |
97 | 00:06:07,325 | 00:06:10,995 | He had to really focus to make us as competitive as we were. | He had to really focus to make us as competitive as we were. |
98 | 00:06:11,954 | 00:06:15,666 | We adapt and we adapt quickly, and we're off and running. | We adapt and we adapt quickly, and we're off and running. |
99 | 00:06:15,750 | 00:06:18,920 | [commentator 3] Rodman, battling for the rebound, saving it in! | [commentator 3] Rodman, battling for the rebound, saving it in! |
100 | 00:06:19,003 | 00:06:21,047 | And Kerr snatches it out of the air, | And Kerr snatches it out of the air, |
101 | 00:06:21,589 | 00:06:22,589 | and drills it! | and drills it! |
102 | 00:06:22,632 | 00:06:25,176 | Now that's... that's winning basketball. | Now that's... that's winning basketball. |
103 | 00:06:25,259 | 00:06:30,056 | Those are the plays that Dennis Rodman does to make his team great. | Those are the plays that Dennis Rodman does to make his team great. |
104 | 00:06:30,681 | 00:06:31,682 | Awesome. | Awesome. |
105 | 00:06:44,404 | 00:06:47,073 | [Rodman] As a black kid living in the projects, | [Rodman] As a black kid living in the projects, |
106 | 00:06:47,156 | 00:06:49,992 | life was really fucking nuts, right, it was like... Whoa! | life was really fucking nuts, right, it was like... Whoa! |
107 | 00:06:52,703 | 00:06:54,747 | My mother drove buses for the school. | My mother drove buses for the school. |
108 | 00:06:55,248 | 00:06:58,835 | She got sick and tired of my ass not providing, not doing anything. | She got sick and tired of my ass not providing, not doing anything. |
109 | 00:06:58,918 | 00:07:02,046 | And, I think... What was I, 18? | And, I think... What was I, 18? |
110 | 00:07:02,588 | 00:07:04,382 | She just got tired of me and kicked me out | She just got tired of me and kicked me out |
111 | 00:07:04,465 | 00:07:06,384 | so I lived in the street for two years. | so I lived in the street for two years. |
112 | 00:07:08,177 | 00:07:10,972 | I was just trying to bounce around, see where I could stay at. | I was just trying to bounce around, see where I could stay at. |
113 | 00:07:11,931 | 00:07:14,851 | People's backyards, my friends' backyards, stuff like that. | People's backyards, my friends' backyards, stuff like that. |
114 | 00:07:14,934 | 00:07:16,978 | I could've been a drug dealer, I could've been dead, | I could've been a drug dealer, I could've been dead, |
115 | 00:07:17,061 | 00:07:19,188 | I could've been... Shit, anything at that time. | I could've been... Shit, anything at that time. |
116 | 00:07:20,106 | 00:07:23,317 | I don't know why I never did that drug stuff, but I never did. | I don't know why I never did that drug stuff, but I never did. |
117 | 00:07:23,860 | 00:07:27,280 | I'd just sit there and watch 'em do it, watch 'em sell it, stuff like that, | I'd just sit there and watch 'em do it, watch 'em sell it, stuff like that, |
118 | 00:07:27,363 | 00:07:29,782 | and I walk out the door every day, go to the gym. | and I walk out the door every day, go to the gym. |
119 | 00:07:29,866 | 00:07:32,160 | Come back, do the same thing every day. | Come back, do the same thing every day. |
120 | 00:07:32,243 | 00:07:35,663 | I was just fortunate to start picking up a basketball and start playing. | I was just fortunate to start picking up a basketball and start playing. |
121 | 00:07:37,748 | 00:07:39,542 | And I just got lucky that | And I just got lucky that |
122 | 00:07:39,625 | 00:07:42,336 | some guy from some college said, "Dennis, you wanna play for us?" | some guy from some college said, "Dennis, you wanna play for us?" |
123 | 00:07:42,420 | 00:07:43,796 | I was like, "All right, great." | I was like, "All right, great." |
124 | 00:07:45,798 | 00:07:49,677 | I went balls-out every time. I don't know. I just know how to go full speed. | I went balls-out every time. I don't know. I just know how to go full speed. |
125 | 00:07:50,720 | 00:07:55,391 | So, when I was in college, I averaged, like, 27 points, 14, 15, rebounds a game. | So, when I was in college, I averaged, like, 27 points, 14, 15, rebounds a game. |
126 | 00:07:58,478 | 00:08:00,354 | [crowd cheering] | [crowd cheering] |
127 | 00:08:00,438 | 00:08:05,568 | I'm trying to get through school, try to get a degree and things, | I'm trying to get through school, try to get a degree and things, |
128 | 00:08:06,110 | 00:08:11,240 | and whatever's... When I finish school, I just hope for the best. | and whatever's... When I finish school, I just hope for the best. |
129 | 00:08:11,324 | 00:08:14,452 | We had two other picks in the second round that I'll give you quickly. | We had two other picks in the second round that I'll give you quickly. |
130 | 00:08:14,535 | 00:08:16,913 | Greg Dreiling went to Indiana, the big center, | Greg Dreiling went to Indiana, the big center, |
131 | 00:08:16,996 | 00:08:20,500 | and Dennis Rodman, the youngster from Southeast Oklahoma State, | and Dennis Rodman, the youngster from Southeast Oklahoma State, |
132 | 00:08:20,583 | 00:08:24,045 | went to Detroit as the 27th pick in the 1986 draft. | went to Detroit as the 27th pick in the 1986 draft. |
133 | 00:08:25,129 | 00:08:30,426 | [Thomas] When he first came to Detroit, he was just an innocent, beautiful person, | [Thomas] When he first came to Detroit, he was just an innocent, beautiful person, |
134 | 00:08:30,510 | 00:08:33,888 | but a little naive about, like, the world. | but a little naive about, like, the world. |
135 | 00:08:34,722 | 00:08:37,016 | [Salley] He was simple at that time. | [Salley] He was simple at that time. |
136 | 00:08:37,517 | 00:08:39,727 | He would say, "Man, you don't know life | He would say, "Man, you don't know life |
137 | 00:08:39,810 | 00:08:42,688 | till you can just go out, get away from everybody, | till you can just go out, get away from everybody, |
138 | 00:08:43,397 | 00:08:47,443 | make a fire, cook food outside, and just look at the stars." | make a fire, cook food outside, and just look at the stars." |
139 | 00:08:49,529 | 00:08:51,729 | [Rodman] I think the second or third year in the league, | [Rodman] I think the second or third year in the league, |
140 | 00:08:51,781 | 00:08:55,868 | I actually figured out what I can do best: rebound and play defense. | I actually figured out what I can do best: rebound and play defense. |
141 | 00:08:55,952 | 00:08:57,995 | [commentator] Barkley, with the drive... | [commentator] Barkley, with the drive... |
142 | 00:08:58,079 | 00:09:00,748 | [Rodman] I just started learning how to perfect that. | [Rodman] I just started learning how to perfect that. |
143 | 00:09:00,831 | 00:09:02,959 | [commentator] Holy cow! How about that? | [commentator] Holy cow! How about that? |
144 | 00:09:03,042 | 00:09:05,044 | I used to have my friends late at night, | I used to have my friends late at night, |
145 | 00:09:05,127 | 00:09:08,881 | shit, 3:00, 4:00 in the morning, go to the gym. I said, "Shoot the ball." | shit, 3:00, 4:00 in the morning, go to the gym. I said, "Shoot the ball." |
146 | 00:09:08,965 | 00:09:11,509 | I said, "Shoot over here, shoot over there..." | I said, "Shoot over here, shoot over there..." |
147 | 00:09:11,592 | 00:09:13,886 | I'd just sit there, react, react. | I'd just sit there, react, react. |
148 | 00:09:14,887 | 00:09:18,391 | [Rodman] I practiced a lot about the angle of the ball and trajectory of it. | [Rodman] I practiced a lot about the angle of the ball and trajectory of it. |
149 | 00:09:18,474 | 00:09:22,395 | You got a Larry Bird, it's gonna spin. You got a Magic, it maybe spin. | You got a Larry Bird, it's gonna spin. You got a Magic, it maybe spin. |
150 | 00:09:22,478 | 00:09:25,314 | When Michael shoot over here, I position myself right there. | When Michael shoot over here, I position myself right there. |
151 | 00:09:25,398 | 00:09:27,984 | Now if it hit the rim, it's... Boom. | Now if it hit the rim, it's... Boom. |
152 | 00:09:28,067 | 00:09:30,444 | Click and go back this way. It going here and here. | Click and go back this way. It going here and here. |
153 | 00:09:30,528 | 00:09:31,696 | Click, it going that way. | Click, it going that way. |
154 | 00:09:31,779 | 00:09:32,822 | Boom! That way. | Boom! That way. |
155 | 00:09:32,905 | 00:09:34,657 | Click here and go this way. | Click here and go this way. |
156 | 00:09:34,740 | 00:09:38,119 | So, basically, I started learning how to put myself in a position to get the ball. | So, basically, I started learning how to put myself in a position to get the ball. |
157 | 00:09:38,202 | 00:09:40,663 | [commentator] Rebound, kept alive by Rodman, and... | [commentator] Rebound, kept alive by Rodman, and... |
158 | 00:09:41,622 | 00:09:44,750 | I was pretty much like that rash on players, | I was pretty much like that rash on players, |
159 | 00:09:44,834 | 00:09:47,003 | that rash you can't never get rid of, right? | that rash you can't never get rid of, right? |
160 | 00:09:50,840 | 00:09:55,177 | Dennis Rodman was the fuck-up person. He just fucks everything up. | Dennis Rodman was the fuck-up person. He just fucks everything up. |
161 | 00:09:55,970 | 00:10:00,057 | He's a pest. Shutting down whoever he wanted to. | He's a pest. Shutting down whoever he wanted to. |
162 | 00:10:00,683 | 00:10:02,059 | It was always a challenge. | It was always a challenge. |
163 | 00:10:02,768 | 00:10:07,023 | He was one of them players that had changed the game just by his presence. | He was one of them players that had changed the game just by his presence. |
164 | 00:10:08,065 | 00:10:11,694 | [Daly] You talk about coach's dreams, there aren't many players like him. | [Daly] You talk about coach's dreams, there aren't many players like him. |
165 | 00:10:11,777 | 00:10:15,573 | Couldn't be a player I'm more proud of and proud to be associated with. | Couldn't be a player I'm more proud of and proud to be associated with. |
166 | 00:10:15,656 | 00:10:18,159 | He had a great relationship with Chuck Daly. | He had a great relationship with Chuck Daly. |
167 | 00:10:18,242 | 00:10:21,078 | Chuck was the only person that understood him. | Chuck was the only person that understood him. |
168 | 00:10:21,162 | 00:10:22,455 | Let's say your guy stops side, | Let's say your guy stops side, |
169 | 00:10:22,538 | 00:10:25,082 | you're in here, you're defense, lock him here. | you're in here, you're defense, lock him here. |
170 | 00:10:25,166 | 00:10:27,918 | [Malone] I remember one time, I was working with Dennis, | [Malone] I remember one time, I was working with Dennis, |
171 | 00:10:28,002 | 00:10:31,714 | and then Chuck called me over, and he said, "Just leave him alone. | and then Chuck called me over, and he said, "Just leave him alone. |
172 | 00:10:32,715 | 00:10:34,800 | You don't put a saddle on a mustang." | You don't put a saddle on a mustang." |
173 | 00:10:38,929 | 00:10:41,932 | [interviewer] Were you considered a troublemaker on the court in college? | [interviewer] Were you considered a troublemaker on the court in college? |
174 | 00:10:42,016 | 00:10:44,977 | - Did you have that reputation? - No. I built that in Detroit. | - Did you have that reputation? - No. I built that in Detroit. |
175 | 00:10:45,061 | 00:10:46,646 | There's no disputing that Detroit | There's no disputing that Detroit |
176 | 00:10:46,729 | 00:10:49,398 | is one of the most physical teams in the NBA, | is one of the most physical teams in the NBA, |
177 | 00:10:49,482 | 00:10:51,359 | and it's all part of their strategy | and it's all part of their strategy |
178 | 00:10:51,442 | 00:10:53,778 | to take their opponents out of their rhythm. | to take their opponents out of their rhythm. |
179 | 00:10:54,737 | 00:10:57,740 | [Thorn] The Detroit Pistons were the epitome | [Thorn] The Detroit Pistons were the epitome |
180 | 00:10:57,823 | 00:11:04,205 | of the physical, tough, hard-nosed brand of half-court basketball. | of the physical, tough, hard-nosed brand of half-court basketball. |
181 | 00:11:04,288 | 00:11:11,253 | They had big strong guys in Laimbeer, Mahorn, Rodman, Salley. | They had big strong guys in Laimbeer, Mahorn, Rodman, Salley. |
182 | 00:11:11,337 | 00:11:15,841 | They had a great defensive player in Joe Dumars, they had Isiah Thomas. | They had a great defensive player in Joe Dumars, they had Isiah Thomas. |
183 | 00:11:16,425 | 00:11:19,637 | [interviewer] Were they threatening the safety of the league's top players? | [interviewer] Were they threatening the safety of the league's top players? |
184 | 00:11:20,930 | 00:11:22,848 | I don't think they cared. [chuckles] | I don't think they cared. [chuckles] |
185 | 00:11:24,850 | 00:11:28,437 | [commentator] Wilkins gets knocked to the deck, and wants Mahorn. | [commentator] Wilkins gets knocked to the deck, and wants Mahorn. |
186 | 00:11:29,855 | 00:11:31,232 | - Rivers... - [whistle blows] | - Rivers... - [whistle blows] |
187 | 00:11:31,315 | 00:11:34,276 | Pushed hard. I mean, he was driven to the floor. | Pushed hard. I mean, he was driven to the floor. |
188 | 00:11:35,027 | 00:11:38,364 | [Rodman] At that time, in the NBA, you could do anything you want. | [Rodman] At that time, in the NBA, you could do anything you want. |
189 | 00:11:39,407 | 00:11:42,451 | [scoffs] Compared to today, 30 years ago, shit. | [scoffs] Compared to today, 30 years ago, shit. |
190 | 00:11:42,535 | 00:11:46,330 | Back then, you could just sit there and just literally beat people up | Back then, you could just sit there and just literally beat people up |
191 | 00:11:46,914 | 00:11:49,667 | and get away with it without a technical or anything. | and get away with it without a technical or anything. |
192 | 00:11:49,750 | 00:11:54,296 | [commentator] Dennis Rodman and Lohaus, under the basket, going at it. | [commentator] Dennis Rodman and Lohaus, under the basket, going at it. |
193 | 00:11:55,923 | 00:11:58,634 | We're like a hockey team, everybody wanna see us fight. [laughs] | We're like a hockey team, everybody wanna see us fight. [laughs] |
194 | 00:11:58,718 | 00:12:01,303 | [Salley] Rick Mahorn taught me how to elbow and said, | [Salley] Rick Mahorn taught me how to elbow and said, |
195 | 00:12:01,387 | 00:12:03,305 | "If you hit somebody, do it on purpose. | "If you hit somebody, do it on purpose. |
196 | 00:12:03,806 | 00:12:07,351 | Don't get a cheap foul. That's stupid. If you're gonna hit him, hit him." | Don't get a cheap foul. That's stupid. If you're gonna hit him, hit him." |
197 | 00:12:07,435 | 00:12:10,438 | They acquired the moniker "The Bad Boys." | They acquired the moniker "The Bad Boys." |
198 | 00:12:11,105 | 00:12:16,277 | They played a tough, intimidating style, and a lot of people didn't like it | They played a tough, intimidating style, and a lot of people didn't like it |
199 | 00:12:16,360 | 00:12:19,196 | 'cause it was getting away from the beauty of basketball. | 'cause it was getting away from the beauty of basketball. |
200 | 00:12:19,280 | 00:12:21,824 | [commentator] Bird and Laimbeer go at it. | [commentator] Bird and Laimbeer go at it. |
201 | 00:12:21,907 | 00:12:25,244 | We weren't "the league's favorite." We weren't the... | We weren't "the league's favorite." We weren't the... |
202 | 00:12:25,327 | 00:12:29,915 | We weren't the pretty team that had got invited to the Lakers' and Celtics' party. | We weren't the pretty team that had got invited to the Lakers' and Celtics' party. |
203 | 00:12:29,999 | 00:12:34,170 | When we showed up, it was almost like we were crashing their party. | When we showed up, it was almost like we were crashing their party. |
204 | 00:12:34,253 | 00:12:37,214 | This is the way the game of basketball was played at the time. | This is the way the game of basketball was played at the time. |
205 | 00:12:37,298 | 00:12:40,301 | These guys on the other side may not be as talented, | These guys on the other side may not be as talented, |
206 | 00:12:40,384 | 00:12:42,136 | but when you do come into Detroit, | but when you do come into Detroit, |
207 | 00:12:42,928 | 00:12:44,513 | you gonna get your ass whooped. | you gonna get your ass whooped. |
208 | 00:12:44,597 | 00:12:47,975 | [commentator] We got a fight. Laimbeer and Daugherty going after it. | [commentator] We got a fight. Laimbeer and Daugherty going after it. |
209 | 00:12:48,851 | 00:12:51,228 | We just basically... "Okay, we're the bad boys." | We just basically... "Okay, we're the bad boys." |
210 | 00:12:51,312 | 00:12:54,315 | We started feeding into it. Next thing you know, we starting to win. | We started feeding into it. Next thing you know, we starting to win. |
211 | 00:12:59,320 | 00:13:01,614 | [Kremer] The Pistons had overtaken the Celtics | [Kremer] The Pistons had overtaken the Celtics |
212 | 00:13:01,697 | 00:13:03,908 | as kings of the Eastern Conference, | as kings of the Eastern Conference, |
213 | 00:13:03,991 | 00:13:08,370 | and they're rolling along just as the Bulls are really starting to emerge. | and they're rolling along just as the Bulls are really starting to emerge. |
214 | 00:13:10,247 | 00:13:13,709 | [Paxson] In '86-'87, when Jerry Krause made a head coaching hire, | [Paxson] In '86-'87, when Jerry Krause made a head coaching hire, |
215 | 00:13:14,210 | 00:13:17,463 | I think we all felt that we needed something different. | I think we all felt that we needed something different. |
216 | 00:13:18,172 | 00:13:20,007 | This speaks to Jerry's strengths. | This speaks to Jerry's strengths. |
217 | 00:13:20,508 | 00:13:23,093 | He identified a young Doug Collins, | He identified a young Doug Collins, |
218 | 00:13:23,177 | 00:13:28,390 | who he felt would bring an energy and enthusiasm that a young team needed. | who he felt would bring an energy and enthusiasm that a young team needed. |
219 | 00:13:28,474 | 00:13:31,018 | This is a game that we need to have high energy. | This is a game that we need to have high energy. |
220 | 00:13:31,101 | 00:13:34,355 | We have a high energy level. We win tonight, we got tomorrow off, | We have a high energy level. We win tonight, we got tomorrow off, |
221 | 00:13:34,438 | 00:13:37,209 | so you can spend all night in LA doing whatever you want. I don't care. | so you can spend all night in LA doing whatever you want. I don't care. |
222 | 00:13:37,233 | 00:13:40,194 | - Otherwise, we got practice tomorrow... - [laughing] | - Otherwise, we got practice tomorrow... - [laughing] |
223 | 00:13:40,277 | 00:13:42,822 | [Jordan] Dougie was a breath of fresh air. | [Jordan] Dougie was a breath of fresh air. |
224 | 00:13:42,905 | 00:13:45,658 | He believed in everything that I believed in. He wanted to win. | He believed in everything that I believed in. He wanted to win. |
225 | 00:13:45,741 | 00:13:48,077 | He was an easy guy, great guy to play for. | He was an easy guy, great guy to play for. |
226 | 00:13:48,160 | 00:13:53,123 | Welcome, sports fans, this is the Chicago sports... casino. | Welcome, sports fans, this is the Chicago sports... casino. |
227 | 00:13:53,207 | 00:13:55,292 | - [man 1] He cheats. - [man 2] Man! Take that! | - [man 1] He cheats. - [man 2] Man! Take that! |
228 | 00:13:55,376 | 00:13:58,212 | - Wins again. - [man 2] Bet, bet, bet. | - Wins again. - [man 2] Bet, bet, bet. |
229 | 00:13:58,295 | 00:14:01,674 | - We know why he win, he got kings. - [man 3] Kings, that's right. | - We know why he win, he got kings. - [man 3] Kings, that's right. |
230 | 00:14:01,757 | 00:14:05,761 | [Paxson] Doug's energy on the sideline was unparalleled. | [Paxson] Doug's energy on the sideline was unparalleled. |
231 | 00:14:06,345 | 00:14:10,266 | He'd walk off the floor of a game, and he would be drenched in sweat. | He'd walk off the floor of a game, and he would be drenched in sweat. |
232 | 00:14:10,349 | 00:14:12,852 | I mean, he just... He looked like he played. | I mean, he just... He looked like he played. |
233 | 00:14:12,935 | 00:14:16,188 | Let's make sure, above all, we get some rest. | Let's make sure, above all, we get some rest. |
234 | 00:14:16,272 | 00:14:19,149 | Detroit, we're one and [bleep] four against those [bleep]. | Detroit, we're one and [bleep] four against those [bleep]. |
235 | 00:14:19,233 | 00:14:23,988 | And it's on national TV, and I want to beat those guys on Sunday. Let's go. | And it's on national TV, and I want to beat those guys on Sunday. Let's go. |
236 | 00:14:24,071 | 00:14:25,656 | - [clapping] - [player] Yeah! | - [clapping] - [player] Yeah! |
237 | 00:14:26,657 | 00:14:28,242 | [Collins] The year before I came, | [Collins] The year before I came, |
238 | 00:14:28,325 | 00:14:31,996 | the Bulls had been eliminated by Boston in the playoffs. | the Bulls had been eliminated by Boston in the playoffs. |
239 | 00:14:32,538 | 00:14:33,956 | [commentator] The ball game's over. | [commentator] The ball game's over. |
240 | 00:14:34,039 | 00:14:36,250 | The series goes to Boston in three straight. | The series goes to Boston in three straight. |
241 | 00:14:36,333 | 00:14:39,336 | The final score, 122-104, Celtics. | The final score, 122-104, Celtics. |
242 | 00:14:39,420 | 00:14:41,630 | [Collins] The roster was a little thin at that time. | [Collins] The roster was a little thin at that time. |
243 | 00:14:41,714 | 00:14:45,217 | I'd seen Michael play, but I really never had spent any time around him. | I'd seen Michael play, but I really never had spent any time around him. |
244 | 00:14:45,301 | 00:14:47,428 | [commentator] Number 34, Charles Oakley. | [commentator] Number 34, Charles Oakley. |
245 | 00:14:47,511 | 00:14:50,031 | [Collins] Our second-best player at the time was Charles Oakley. | [Collins] Our second-best player at the time was Charles Oakley. |
246 | 00:14:50,055 | 00:14:52,725 | He was a vicious rebounder, brought a lot of toughness. | He was a vicious rebounder, brought a lot of toughness. |
247 | 00:14:52,808 | 00:14:55,603 | John Paxson was on that team, Dave Corzine. | John Paxson was on that team, Dave Corzine. |
248 | 00:14:56,312 | 00:14:58,814 | [commentator] And their head coach, Doug Collins. | [commentator] And their head coach, Doug Collins. |
249 | 00:14:58,898 | 00:15:02,735 | [Collins] The first game I coached, we went to Madison Square Garden. | [Collins] The first game I coached, we went to Madison Square Garden. |
250 | 00:15:02,818 | 00:15:06,196 | And the Knicks had Patrick Ewing, Bill Cartwright, they were loaded. | And the Knicks had Patrick Ewing, Bill Cartwright, they were loaded. |
251 | 00:15:06,280 | 00:15:07,615 | Hubie Brown, Hall of Fame coach. | Hubie Brown, Hall of Fame coach. |
252 | 00:15:08,282 | 00:15:10,951 | Two minutes to go in the game. The game was tied. | Two minutes to go in the game. The game was tied. |
253 | 00:15:11,035 | 00:15:12,411 | I'm soaking wet with sweat. | I'm soaking wet with sweat. |
254 | 00:15:12,494 | 00:15:15,289 | I've chewed my gum to a powder, it's around my mouth. | I've chewed my gum to a powder, it's around my mouth. |
255 | 00:15:15,372 | 00:15:18,918 | And I saw this hand come out with a cup of water, | And I saw this hand come out with a cup of water, |
256 | 00:15:19,001 | 00:15:21,629 | and it was Michael Jordan. He looked at me and said, | and it was Michael Jordan. He looked at me and said, |
257 | 00:15:21,712 | 00:15:24,840 | "Coach, take a drink of that water, clean that stuff off your mouth. | "Coach, take a drink of that water, clean that stuff off your mouth. |
258 | 00:15:24,924 | 00:15:26,675 | I'm not gonna let you lose your first game." | I'm not gonna let you lose your first game." |
259 | 00:15:27,301 | 00:15:28,741 | [commentator 1] Here's Jordan again. | [commentator 1] Here's Jordan again. |
260 | 00:15:30,220 | 00:15:31,221 | All alone... | All alone... |
261 | 00:15:32,139 | 00:15:33,766 | Turns, off the glass. | Turns, off the glass. |
262 | 00:15:33,849 | 00:15:36,018 | Forty-two points for Michael Jordan. | Forty-two points for Michael Jordan. |
263 | 00:15:36,727 | 00:15:40,105 | Ten seconds on the shot clock, Rory Sparrow working on it. | Ten seconds on the shot clock, Rory Sparrow working on it. |
264 | 00:15:40,189 | 00:15:42,358 | Jordan, to the basket, scores. | Jordan, to the basket, scores. |
265 | 00:15:42,441 | 00:15:45,986 | He went out and scored the last ten points of the game, ended up with 50. | He went out and scored the last ten points of the game, ended up with 50. |
266 | 00:15:46,070 | 00:15:50,532 | [commentator 2] Michael Jordan setting a new Madison Square Garden record | [commentator 2] Michael Jordan setting a new Madison Square Garden record |
267 | 00:15:50,616 | 00:15:53,285 | for an opposing player tonight, scoring 50 points. | for an opposing player tonight, scoring 50 points. |
268 | 00:15:53,369 | 00:15:56,789 | [commentator 1] The Chicago Bulls make Doug Collins a winner his first time out, | [commentator 1] The Chicago Bulls make Doug Collins a winner his first time out, |
269 | 00:15:56,872 | 00:15:59,291 | and it is a happy Doug Collins on the far side. | and it is a happy Doug Collins on the far side. |
270 | 00:15:59,375 | 00:16:01,835 | I remember being on the plane, going back to Chicago, I said, | I remember being on the plane, going back to Chicago, I said, |
271 | 00:16:01,919 | 00:16:05,631 | "Wow. This guy is something like I've never seen before." | "Wow. This guy is something like I've never seen before." |
272 | 00:16:05,714 | 00:16:08,008 | Doug and I, we're like this, you know. | Doug and I, we're like this, you know. |
273 | 00:16:08,592 | 00:16:10,052 | He designed the offense | He designed the offense |
274 | 00:16:10,886 | 00:16:14,181 | to support the way I play the game and the way he wanted to coach. | to support the way I play the game and the way he wanted to coach. |
275 | 00:16:14,264 | 00:16:17,101 | - [whistle blows] - It's all right, Michael. It's all right. | - [whistle blows] - It's all right, Michael. It's all right. |
276 | 00:16:17,184 | 00:16:19,019 | I think he loved my competitiveness. | I think he loved my competitiveness. |
277 | 00:16:19,103 | 00:16:23,232 | He understands that the greatest respect you can give a great player | He understands that the greatest respect you can give a great player |
278 | 00:16:23,315 | 00:16:25,275 | is to coach him and coach him hard. | is to coach him and coach him hard. |
279 | 00:16:25,359 | 00:16:26,819 | [imperceptible] | [imperceptible] |
280 | 00:16:29,613 | 00:16:31,156 | [Collins] Michael's big thing was, | [Collins] Michael's big thing was, |
281 | 00:16:31,240 | 00:16:33,367 | "Stack the practice against me and I'll still win." | "Stack the practice against me and I'll still win." |
282 | 00:16:33,450 | 00:16:38,038 | Doug always tried to maintain a competitive advantage in practice. | Doug always tried to maintain a competitive advantage in practice. |
283 | 00:16:42,960 | 00:16:44,712 | I'd be with the starting five. | I'd be with the starting five. |
284 | 00:16:45,963 | 00:16:47,256 | Then next thing you know, | Then next thing you know, |
285 | 00:16:47,339 | 00:16:49,925 | while I was winning, he'd put me with the second team. | while I was winning, he'd put me with the second team. |
286 | 00:16:50,009 | 00:16:52,929 | One day at practice, he got upset. He thought I was cheating on the score. | One day at practice, he got upset. He thought I was cheating on the score. |
287 | 00:16:53,595 | 00:16:59,601 | And, uh, he got upset and left practice, and, uh, we came back the next day, | And, uh, he got upset and left practice, and, uh, we came back the next day, |
288 | 00:16:59,685 | 00:17:02,604 | they were asking, "You talked to Michael since practice yesterday?" | they were asking, "You talked to Michael since practice yesterday?" |
289 | 00:17:02,688 | 00:17:06,025 | I said, "I haven't had a chance. We will." Then Michael came out. | I said, "I haven't had a chance. We will." Then Michael came out. |
290 | 00:17:06,108 | 00:17:08,193 | I reached over, grabbed him, kissed him on the cheek. | I reached over, grabbed him, kissed him on the cheek. |
291 | 00:17:08,277 | 00:17:09,862 | I said, "I love him. He loves me." | I said, "I love him. He loves me." |
292 | 00:17:09,945 | 00:17:12,698 | - Would you come here so we can kiss on TV? - [Jordan] Here we go. | - Would you come here so we can kiss on TV? - [Jordan] Here we go. |
293 | 00:17:13,198 | 00:17:16,535 | - Would you tell them everything is fine? - [interviewer] Aww. | - Would you tell them everything is fine? - [interviewer] Aww. |
294 | 00:17:16,618 | 00:17:18,680 | - We've kissed and made up now. - [reporters laughing] | - We've kissed and made up now. - [reporters laughing] |
295 | 00:17:18,704 | 00:17:24,543 | [Collins] I coached him for three years, from the '86-'87 season through '88-'89. | [Collins] I coached him for three years, from the '86-'87 season through '88-'89. |
296 | 00:17:25,794 | 00:17:29,089 | When I was coaching him, he was the MVP of the league. | When I was coaching him, he was the MVP of the league. |
297 | 00:17:29,173 | 00:17:31,133 | [commentator] ...in deep, scoops it in! | [commentator] ...in deep, scoops it in! |
298 | 00:17:31,842 | 00:17:34,011 | [Collins] He was the MVP of the All-Star Game. | [Collins] He was the MVP of the All-Star Game. |
299 | 00:17:37,681 | 00:17:39,600 | He won the slam dunk competition... | He won the slam dunk competition... |
300 | 00:17:41,185 | 00:17:42,978 | and he was the Defensive Player of the Year. | and he was the Defensive Player of the Year. |
301 | 00:17:43,062 | 00:17:44,622 | [commentator] ...pass stolen by Jordan. | [commentator] ...pass stolen by Jordan. |
302 | 00:17:44,688 | 00:17:47,941 | Michael Jordan takes it coast-to-coast. Whoo! | Michael Jordan takes it coast-to-coast. Whoo! |
303 | 00:17:48,734 | 00:17:50,110 | That's greatness. | That's greatness. |
304 | 00:17:50,194 | 00:17:52,821 | You know, I mean, he was now the best player. | You know, I mean, he was now the best player. |
305 | 00:17:52,905 | 00:17:54,948 | ["Partyman" playing] | ["Partyman" playing] |
306 | 00:18:01,538 | 00:18:03,415 | [commentators speaking indistinctly] | [commentators speaking indistinctly] |
307 | 00:18:17,888 | 00:18:21,475 | ♪ All hail the new king in town ♪ | ♪ All hail the new king in town ♪ |
308 | 00:18:26,063 | 00:18:29,608 | ♪ Young and old, gather round ♪ | ♪ Young and old, gather round ♪ |
309 | 00:18:34,113 | 00:18:37,658 | ♪ Black and white, red and green ♪ | ♪ Black and white, red and green ♪ |
310 | 00:18:41,620 | 00:18:45,791 | ♪ The funkiest man you've ever seen ♪ | ♪ The funkiest man you've ever seen ♪ |
311 | 00:18:48,001 | 00:18:50,129 | ♪ Tell you what his name is ♪ | ♪ Tell you what his name is ♪ |
312 | 00:18:50,504 | 00:18:54,049 | ♪ Partyman, partyman ♪ | ♪ Partyman, partyman ♪ |
313 | 00:18:54,675 | 00:18:57,845 | ♪ Rock a party like nobody can ♪ | ♪ Rock a party like nobody can ♪ |
314 | 00:18:57,928 | 00:19:01,807 | ♪ Rules and regulations No place in his nation ♪ | ♪ Rules and regulations No place in his nation ♪ |
315 | 00:19:02,808 | 00:19:06,311 | ♪ Partyman, partyman ♪ | ♪ Partyman, partyman ♪ |
316 | 00:19:06,395 | 00:19:08,272 | ♪ Party people Say it now ♪ | ♪ Party people Say it now ♪ |
317 | 00:19:08,355 | 00:19:12,401 | ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ | ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ |
318 | 00:19:14,570 | 00:19:16,530 | ♪ Somebody holla if you want to party ♪ | ♪ Somebody holla if you want to party ♪ |
319 | 00:19:24,621 | 00:19:26,790 | ♪ Young and old, gather around ♪ | ♪ Young and old, gather around ♪ |
320 | 00:19:26,874 | 00:19:28,792 | ♪ Everybody hail the new king in town ♪ | ♪ Everybody hail the new king in town ♪ |
321 | 00:19:38,177 | 00:19:40,929 | Under Doug Collins, the Bulls were rapidly improving, | Under Doug Collins, the Bulls were rapidly improving, |
322 | 00:19:41,013 | 00:19:45,434 | and suddenly becoming a real contender in the Eastern Conference. | and suddenly becoming a real contender in the Eastern Conference. |
323 | 00:19:45,517 | 00:19:50,772 | Detroit was certainly, at the time, the team to beat in the east, | Detroit was certainly, at the time, the team to beat in the east, |
324 | 00:19:50,856 | 00:19:52,691 | but who was going to be their challenger? | but who was going to be their challenger? |
325 | 00:19:52,774 | 00:19:55,736 | Who was going to really rise up and challenge Detroit? | Who was going to really rise up and challenge Detroit? |
326 | 00:19:55,819 | 00:19:57,696 | It was gonna be one of two teams. | It was gonna be one of two teams. |
327 | 00:19:57,779 | 00:20:00,115 | The Bulls were in ascension, obviously, at that time, | The Bulls were in ascension, obviously, at that time, |
328 | 00:20:00,199 | 00:20:03,660 | with their young core of Jordan and Pippen and Horace Grant. | with their young core of Jordan and Pippen and Horace Grant. |
329 | 00:20:03,744 | 00:20:07,789 | But Cleveland was, at the time, a great team. | But Cleveland was, at the time, a great team. |
330 | 00:20:07,873 | 00:20:10,751 | So these are the two rising teams in the east. | So these are the two rising teams in the east. |
331 | 00:20:12,836 | 00:20:16,048 | [Wilbon] The Bulls play Cleveland in '89 in a best-three-of-five. | [Wilbon] The Bulls play Cleveland in '89 in a best-three-of-five. |
332 | 00:20:16,757 | 00:20:18,967 | Most basketball observers believed | Most basketball observers believed |
333 | 00:20:19,051 | 00:20:20,594 | Cleveland was better. | Cleveland was better. |
334 | 00:20:20,677 | 00:20:22,304 | Nobody has picked the Bulls. | Nobody has picked the Bulls. |
335 | 00:20:22,387 | 00:20:25,682 | The media picked Cavs. Everybody's picked, nationally, the Cavs. | The media picked Cavs. Everybody's picked, nationally, the Cavs. |
336 | 00:20:25,766 | 00:20:30,020 | Back then, we played teams six times in our division. | Back then, we played teams six times in our division. |
337 | 00:20:30,979 | 00:20:33,982 | They beat us six times, 6-0. | They beat us six times, 6-0. |
338 | 00:20:34,691 | 00:20:36,860 | So now in our mind, we got nothing to lose. | So now in our mind, we got nothing to lose. |
339 | 00:20:38,528 | 00:20:41,823 | [Smith] Bulls win the first game, Cleveland wins the second in Cleveland. | [Smith] Bulls win the first game, Cleveland wins the second in Cleveland. |
340 | 00:20:41,907 | 00:20:43,787 | [commentator] Tied 1-1 with Cleveland's victory. | [commentator] Tied 1-1 with Cleveland's victory. |
341 | 00:20:43,825 | 00:20:45,994 | [Smith] Back to Chicago, Bulls win game three. | [Smith] Back to Chicago, Bulls win game three. |
342 | 00:20:46,078 | 00:20:48,372 | [commentator] Chicago wins it, 101-94. | [commentator] Chicago wins it, 101-94. |
343 | 00:20:48,956 | 00:20:53,001 | Game four, Jordan's got a free throw at the end of regulation, misses. | Game four, Jordan's got a free throw at the end of regulation, misses. |
344 | 00:20:53,085 | 00:20:54,211 | [crowd groans] | [crowd groans] |
345 | 00:20:54,294 | 00:20:57,923 | [commentator] Missed it. The Cavaliers have kept their hopes alive. | [commentator] Missed it. The Cavaliers have kept their hopes alive. |
346 | 00:20:58,006 | 00:20:59,883 | We go back to Cleveland for game five. | We go back to Cleveland for game five. |
347 | 00:20:59,967 | 00:21:03,804 | [commentator] And welcome to the Richfield Coliseum for game five | [commentator] And welcome to the Richfield Coliseum for game five |
348 | 00:21:03,887 | 00:21:06,640 | between the Chicago Bulls and the Cleveland Cavaliers. | between the Chicago Bulls and the Cleveland Cavaliers. |
349 | 00:21:07,557 | 00:21:09,810 | Up to that time, the franchise, | Up to that time, the franchise, |
350 | 00:21:09,893 | 00:21:12,104 | the history of the Bulls was blowing leads. | the history of the Bulls was blowing leads. |
351 | 00:21:12,187 | 00:21:14,856 | And you're like, "Oh, my God, this is gonna happen again. | And you're like, "Oh, my God, this is gonna happen again. |
352 | 00:21:14,940 | 00:21:18,235 | They're gonna blow this. They're gonna lose the series to Cleveland." | They're gonna blow this. They're gonna lose the series to Cleveland." |
353 | 00:21:18,318 | 00:21:21,822 | So, game's about to start, and there was two other beat writers. | So, game's about to start, and there was two other beat writers. |
354 | 00:21:22,531 | 00:21:25,033 | Beat writer from the Sun-Times, Lacy Banks | Beat writer from the Sun-Times, Lacy Banks |
355 | 00:21:25,117 | 00:21:27,452 | and Kent McDill from the Herald and me. | and Kent McDill from the Herald and me. |
356 | 00:21:28,370 | 00:21:30,872 | And Lacy's picked the Cavs to sweep in three. | And Lacy's picked the Cavs to sweep in three. |
357 | 00:21:30,956 | 00:21:34,710 | Kent's picked the Cavs to win in four, and I've picked the Cavs to win in five. | Kent's picked the Cavs to win in four, and I've picked the Cavs to win in five. |
358 | 00:21:35,294 | 00:21:37,504 | So, Michael... Game's just about to start, | So, Michael... Game's just about to start, |
359 | 00:21:37,587 | 00:21:41,258 | Michael walks over to Lacy, and points to him and says, "We took care of you." | Michael walks over to Lacy, and points to him and says, "We took care of you." |
360 | 00:21:41,341 | 00:21:43,844 | He looks at Kent and says, "We took care of you." | He looks at Kent and says, "We took care of you." |
361 | 00:21:43,927 | 00:21:46,513 | And he looks at me, "And we take care of you today." | And he looks at me, "And we take care of you today." |
362 | 00:21:48,515 | 00:21:50,892 | [commentator] Mark Price and Ron Harper in the backcourt | [commentator] Mark Price and Ron Harper in the backcourt |
363 | 00:21:50,976 | 00:21:53,020 | and we're underway. Cleveland has it. | and we're underway. Cleveland has it. |
364 | 00:21:54,229 | 00:21:56,481 | [Jordan] We went back and forth the whole time. | [Jordan] We went back and forth the whole time. |
365 | 00:21:56,565 | 00:21:59,359 | [commentator] Jordan against Harper, great turnaround. | [commentator] Jordan against Harper, great turnaround. |
366 | 00:21:59,443 | 00:22:00,986 | [Jordan] It was a very tough game. | [Jordan] It was a very tough game. |
367 | 00:22:01,069 | 00:22:02,654 | [commentator] This is the playoffs, | [commentator] This is the playoffs, |
368 | 00:22:02,738 | 00:22:06,199 | and here we have two great teams right here, guys that lay it out. | and here we have two great teams right here, guys that lay it out. |
369 | 00:22:06,283 | 00:22:07,326 | It was a constant battle. | It was a constant battle. |
370 | 00:22:20,964 | 00:22:23,604 | [commentator 1] We have had drama in the final minutes of the game. | [commentator 1] We have had drama in the final minutes of the game. |
371 | 00:22:23,675 | 00:22:26,136 | - Eleven seconds to go. - [commentator 2] In the middle... | - Eleven seconds to go. - [commentator 2] In the middle... |
372 | 00:22:26,219 | 00:22:27,471 | [commentator 1] Jordan has it, | [commentator 1] Jordan has it, |
373 | 00:22:27,554 | 00:22:31,266 | and Jordan puts up a jumper and hits, with six seconds to go. | and Jordan puts up a jumper and hits, with six seconds to go. |
374 | 00:22:31,350 | 00:22:35,354 | Jordan hits the basket and now has 42 points in the game, | Jordan hits the basket and now has 42 points in the game, |
375 | 00:22:35,437 | 00:22:38,065 | and the Cavaliers have called a timeout. | and the Cavaliers have called a timeout. |
376 | 00:22:38,648 | 00:22:41,902 | Ehlo will inbound. He gets it in to Nance, gets the ball back, | Ehlo will inbound. He gets it in to Nance, gets the ball back, |
377 | 00:22:41,985 | 00:22:45,072 | drives to the hoop, lays it in with three seconds to go. | drives to the hoop, lays it in with three seconds to go. |
378 | 00:22:45,155 | 00:22:46,448 | [crowd cheering] | [crowd cheering] |
379 | 00:22:50,911 | 00:22:53,246 | [commentator] Here's our story, here at Richfield Coliseum. | [commentator] Here's our story, here at Richfield Coliseum. |
380 | 00:22:53,330 | 00:22:57,626 | One of these teams will advance. It has been a thrilling game. | One of these teams will advance. It has been a thrilling game. |
381 | 00:22:57,709 | 00:23:02,547 | The Bulls have three seconds to try a shot and try to win the game. | The Bulls have three seconds to try a shot and try to win the game. |
382 | 00:23:03,256 | 00:23:05,384 | Everybody knew where the ball was gonna go. | Everybody knew where the ball was gonna go. |
383 | 00:23:06,885 | 00:23:10,430 | [Jordan] They had Craig Ehlo on me at the time which, | [Jordan] They had Craig Ehlo on me at the time which, |
384 | 00:23:11,390 | 00:23:12,766 | honestly, was a mistake, | honestly, was a mistake, |
385 | 00:23:13,433 | 00:23:16,436 | because the guy that played me better was Ron Harper. | because the guy that played me better was Ron Harper. |
386 | 00:23:16,520 | 00:23:18,772 | [Harper] We up by one. | [Harper] We up by one. |
387 | 00:23:18,855 | 00:23:21,400 | I said, "Coach, I got MJ. | I said, "Coach, I got MJ. |
388 | 00:23:22,651 | 00:23:23,944 | I got MJ." | I got MJ." |
389 | 00:23:24,569 | 00:23:28,698 | So the coach tells me, "I'm gonna put Ehlo on MJ." | So the coach tells me, "I'm gonna put Ehlo on MJ." |
390 | 00:23:29,324 | 00:23:30,409 | And I'm, like... | And I'm, like... |
391 | 00:23:31,952 | 00:23:34,621 | "Yeah, okay, whatever, fuck this bullshit." | "Yeah, okay, whatever, fuck this bullshit." |
392 | 00:23:35,747 | 00:23:39,709 | [crowd chanting] Defense! Defense! | [crowd chanting] Defense! Defense! |
393 | 00:23:40,335 | 00:23:43,922 | We drew a play where I was coming to the ball. | We drew a play where I was coming to the ball. |
394 | 00:23:45,173 | 00:23:48,135 | But I only had time to get one dribble and get a jump shot off. | But I only had time to get one dribble and get a jump shot off. |
395 | 00:23:49,094 | 00:23:51,346 | We were gonna live and die with that scenario. | We were gonna live and die with that scenario. |
396 | 00:23:52,180 | 00:23:54,558 | So I was doing everything I can to get the ball. | So I was doing everything I can to get the ball. |
397 | 00:23:55,308 | 00:23:57,436 | [commentator] The inbounds pass comes in to Jordan. | [commentator] The inbounds pass comes in to Jordan. |
398 | 00:23:57,519 | 00:23:59,896 | Here's Michael at the foul line, a shot on Ehlo... | Here's Michael at the foul line, a shot on Ehlo... |
399 | 00:23:59,980 | 00:24:03,066 | Good! The Bulls win, they win it! | Good! The Bulls win, they win it! |
400 | 00:24:07,863 | 00:24:13,160 | And Chicago has knocked off the Cavs, 101-100. | And Chicago has knocked off the Cavs, 101-100. |
401 | 00:24:13,243 | 00:24:15,620 | [Collins] Michael! Michael, you stuck it, baby! | [Collins] Michael! Michael, you stuck it, baby! |
402 | 00:24:16,496 | 00:24:17,873 | Michael, you stuck it, baby. | Michael, you stuck it, baby. |
403 | 00:24:17,956 | 00:24:19,374 | - You stuck it! - Yeah! | - You stuck it! - Yeah! |
404 | 00:24:21,126 | 00:24:23,837 | I feel very vindicated from when we started the playoff | I feel very vindicated from when we started the playoff |
405 | 00:24:23,920 | 00:24:26,131 | with the dim look that everybody was giving us... | with the dim look that everybody was giving us... |
406 | 00:24:26,214 | 00:24:28,758 | Even I asked you in the locker room, I asked everybody, | Even I asked you in the locker room, I asked everybody, |
407 | 00:24:28,842 | 00:24:32,345 | "What was the feeling back in Chicago? Did they write us off yet?" | "What was the feeling back in Chicago? Did they write us off yet?" |
408 | 00:24:32,429 | 00:24:34,181 | You said, "Some of 'em have written us off." | You said, "Some of 'em have written us off." |
409 | 00:24:34,264 | 00:24:35,849 | I said, "Tell those guys to stay home." | I said, "Tell those guys to stay home." |
410 | 00:24:36,433 | 00:24:39,153 | [Wilbon] Somebody had written or said, "The Bulls were gonna go home, | [Wilbon] Somebody had written or said, "The Bulls were gonna go home, |
411 | 00:24:39,644 | 00:24:40,896 | send them home." | send them home." |
412 | 00:24:40,979 | 00:24:44,065 | So when he hits the shot, "Go home, motherfuckers, go home." | So when he hits the shot, "Go home, motherfuckers, go home." |
413 | 00:24:44,149 | 00:24:48,195 | Get the fuck out of here, go fucking anywhere, but you out of here. | Get the fuck out of here, go fucking anywhere, but you out of here. |
414 | 00:24:48,278 | 00:24:50,906 | Whoever is not with us, all you fuckers, go to hell. | Whoever is not with us, all you fuckers, go to hell. |
415 | 00:24:50,989 | 00:24:54,284 | [commentator] Jordan beat them at the buzzer with a jump shot. | [commentator] Jordan beat them at the buzzer with a jump shot. |
416 | 00:24:54,367 | 00:24:56,828 | It was so dramatic and it was typical | It was so dramatic and it was typical |
417 | 00:24:56,912 | 00:25:00,248 | of what we'd see Michael do the rest of his career in big moments. | of what we'd see Michael do the rest of his career in big moments. |
418 | 00:25:00,332 | 00:25:05,003 | That shot enabled the Bulls to start growing | That shot enabled the Bulls to start growing |
419 | 00:25:05,086 | 00:25:07,714 | and believing that something special was on the horizon. | and believing that something special was on the horizon. |
420 | 00:25:07,797 | 00:25:10,926 | We finally got over the hump of losers' mentality. | We finally got over the hump of losers' mentality. |
421 | 00:25:11,009 | 00:25:13,470 | We were starting to become a winning franchise, | We were starting to become a winning franchise, |
422 | 00:25:14,054 | 00:25:16,473 | and, you know, the sky was the limit. | and, you know, the sky was the limit. |
423 | 00:25:17,974 | 00:25:22,437 | [TV anchor] How high can this man fly? Michael Jordan is soaring | [TV anchor] How high can this man fly? Michael Jordan is soaring |
424 | 00:25:22,521 | 00:25:24,814 | and the Chicago Bulls are going right with him. | and the Chicago Bulls are going right with him. |
425 | 00:25:25,440 | 00:25:28,235 | But now Superman faces his toughest test. | But now Superman faces his toughest test. |
426 | 00:25:28,818 | 00:25:33,198 | And we bring you the first game of the Eastern Conference Championship | And we bring you the first game of the Eastern Conference Championship |
427 | 00:25:33,281 | 00:25:38,495 | between the underdog Chicago Bulls and the favored Detroit Pistons. | between the underdog Chicago Bulls and the favored Detroit Pistons. |
428 | 00:25:39,162 | 00:25:43,124 | The NBA was invested in making Michael Jordan its star. | The NBA was invested in making Michael Jordan its star. |
429 | 00:25:43,875 | 00:25:45,126 | The Pistons were... | The Pistons were... |
430 | 00:25:46,127 | 00:25:47,837 | slowing that down. | slowing that down. |
431 | 00:25:47,921 | 00:25:53,718 | We knew how important to the NBA it was to get Michael to go to the next level. | We knew how important to the NBA it was to get Michael to go to the next level. |
432 | 00:25:53,802 | 00:25:59,015 | The blueprint was Larry, Magic, now Michael. | The blueprint was Larry, Magic, now Michael. |
433 | 00:26:00,350 | 00:26:03,228 | And all of a sudden, there was this little team in Detroit | And all of a sudden, there was this little team in Detroit |
434 | 00:26:03,311 | 00:26:05,480 | who just messed up the whole story. | who just messed up the whole story. |
435 | 00:26:06,064 | 00:26:07,065 | We loved that. | We loved that. |
436 | 00:26:07,148 | 00:26:09,067 | [interviewer] How legitimate was the hatred | [interviewer] How legitimate was the hatred |
437 | 00:26:09,150 | 00:26:11,278 | between those Bulls teams and those Pistons? | between those Bulls teams and those Pistons? |
438 | 00:26:11,361 | 00:26:12,362 | Oh, I hated 'em. | Oh, I hated 'em. |
439 | 00:26:13,446 | 00:26:15,490 | Yeah, the hate carries even to this day. | Yeah, the hate carries even to this day. |
440 | 00:26:16,700 | 00:26:20,704 | They made it personal. They physically beat the shit out of us. | They made it personal. They physically beat the shit out of us. |
441 | 00:26:20,787 | 00:26:22,998 | [Collins] When we played the Pistons in that series, | [Collins] When we played the Pistons in that series, |
442 | 00:26:23,081 | 00:26:26,751 | it was... it was arm-to-arm physical combat. | it was... it was arm-to-arm physical combat. |
443 | 00:26:28,545 | 00:26:30,964 | But we never backed down. We fought them. | But we never backed down. We fought them. |
444 | 00:26:31,590 | 00:26:34,509 | [commentator] The Bulls have won the first game. | [commentator] The Bulls have won the first game. |
445 | 00:26:34,593 | 00:26:36,219 | [Collins] So we got game one. | [Collins] So we got game one. |
446 | 00:26:36,303 | 00:26:37,554 | They won game two. | They won game two. |
447 | 00:26:38,263 | 00:26:39,973 | We came back to Chicago, | We came back to Chicago, |
448 | 00:26:40,056 | 00:26:42,475 | Michael had one of the most incredible games. | Michael had one of the most incredible games. |
449 | 00:26:43,143 | 00:26:46,521 | [commentator 1] Jordan. Steal, he kept it in bounds, here it is again. | [commentator 1] Jordan. Steal, he kept it in bounds, here it is again. |
450 | 00:26:47,897 | 00:26:49,816 | Oh! Yes! | Oh! Yes! |
451 | 00:26:51,234 | 00:26:55,530 | You'll see him elevate, do a 360 and just toss it up. | You'll see him elevate, do a 360 and just toss it up. |
452 | 00:26:55,614 | 00:26:57,574 | [commentator 2] Pippen, finds Jordan. | [commentator 2] Pippen, finds Jordan. |
453 | 00:26:57,657 | 00:26:59,367 | Rodman is on him, one-on-one. | Rodman is on him, one-on-one. |
454 | 00:27:00,118 | 00:27:01,578 | Five seconds to go. | Five seconds to go. |
455 | 00:27:01,661 | 00:27:03,788 | Jordan, off the glass. Yes! | Jordan, off the glass. Yes! |
456 | 00:27:03,872 | 00:27:05,457 | [crowd cheering] | [crowd cheering] |
457 | 00:27:05,540 | 00:27:07,626 | [commentator 2] It's over. Chicago wins. | [commentator 2] It's over. Chicago wins. |
458 | 00:27:10,879 | 00:27:12,759 | [reporter] What was your call on that last play? | [reporter] What was your call on that last play? |
459 | 00:27:13,757 | 00:27:17,510 | That was, "Get the ball to Michael, everybody get the fuck out of the way..." | That was, "Get the ball to Michael, everybody get the fuck out of the way..." |
460 | 00:27:17,594 | 00:27:19,754 | - [all laughing] - [Collins] "...and go to the basket." | - [all laughing] - [Collins] "...and go to the basket." |
461 | 00:27:22,641 | 00:27:24,267 | Jordan pretty much took over the game, | Jordan pretty much took over the game, |
462 | 00:27:24,351 | 00:27:26,770 | made all the big field goals down the stretch, | made all the big field goals down the stretch, |
463 | 00:27:26,853 | 00:27:29,564 | showed like the... Showed the superstar he really is. | showed like the... Showed the superstar he really is. |
464 | 00:27:30,440 | 00:27:32,400 | [reporter] Chuck, how do you bounce back? | [reporter] Chuck, how do you bounce back? |
465 | 00:27:34,235 | 00:27:36,905 | [Thomas] We knew Michael Jordan's the greatest player, | [Thomas] We knew Michael Jordan's the greatest player, |
466 | 00:27:37,739 | 00:27:41,534 | and we tried to use it as a rallying cry to come together. | and we tried to use it as a rallying cry to come together. |
467 | 00:27:42,619 | 00:27:47,082 | We had to do everything from a physicality standpoint to stop him. | We had to do everything from a physicality standpoint to stop him. |
468 | 00:27:47,582 | 00:27:51,336 | Detroit had "Jordan Rules" just for Michael. | Detroit had "Jordan Rules" just for Michael. |
469 | 00:27:52,003 | 00:27:53,755 | I don't know how he came out of it alive. | I don't know how he came out of it alive. |
470 | 00:27:54,422 | 00:27:56,424 | [announcer] The infamous "Jordan Rules," | [announcer] The infamous "Jordan Rules," |
471 | 00:27:56,508 | 00:27:59,761 | the Pistons' defensive tactics designed to contain their namesake, | the Pistons' defensive tactics designed to contain their namesake, |
472 | 00:27:59,844 | 00:28:02,389 | are enforced whenever Michael is on the floor. | are enforced whenever Michael is on the floor. |
473 | 00:28:02,472 | 00:28:04,683 | When he was in the air, we had no shot. | When he was in the air, we had no shot. |
474 | 00:28:04,766 | 00:28:09,062 | Uh, but when everything was on the floor, you can hold your own. | Uh, but when everything was on the floor, you can hold your own. |
475 | 00:28:09,145 | 00:28:11,272 | You have to stop him before he takes flight | You have to stop him before he takes flight |
476 | 00:28:11,356 | 00:28:13,233 | 'cause, you know, he's not human. | 'cause, you know, he's not human. |
477 | 00:28:13,942 | 00:28:15,422 | [commentator] Michael Jordan. Fouled. | [commentator] Michael Jordan. Fouled. |
478 | 00:28:16,319 | 00:28:19,239 | - Jordan. Jordan again, pushed. - [whistle blowing] | - Jordan. Jordan again, pushed. - [whistle blowing] |
479 | 00:28:19,322 | 00:28:22,409 | [commentator] Here again, the implementation of the "Jordan Rules." | [commentator] Here again, the implementation of the "Jordan Rules." |
480 | 00:28:22,492 | 00:28:23,493 | [buzzer sounds] | [buzzer sounds] |
481 | 00:28:24,452 | 00:28:27,080 | [commentator] The Pistons will even it up at two apiece, | [commentator] The Pistons will even it up at two apiece, |
482 | 00:28:27,163 | 00:28:30,208 | and the story of this game, the Detroit defense. | and the story of this game, the Detroit defense. |
483 | 00:28:30,959 | 00:28:33,044 | [Malone] This is what the "Jordan Rules" were: | [Malone] This is what the "Jordan Rules" were: |
484 | 00:28:33,545 | 00:28:37,215 | on the wings, we're going to push him to the elbow, | on the wings, we're going to push him to the elbow, |
485 | 00:28:37,799 | 00:28:40,260 | and we're not gonna let him drive to the baseline. | and we're not gonna let him drive to the baseline. |
486 | 00:28:41,636 | 00:28:45,974 | Number two: when he's on top, we're going to influence him to his left. | Number two: when he's on top, we're going to influence him to his left. |
487 | 00:28:47,225 | 00:28:51,062 | When he got the ball in the low post, we were going to trap him from the top. | When he got the ball in the low post, we were going to trap him from the top. |
488 | 00:28:51,146 | 00:28:53,648 | That's the "Jordan Rules," and it was that simple. | That's the "Jordan Rules," and it was that simple. |
489 | 00:28:54,399 | 00:28:56,680 | [interviewer] What happens when he does make the baseline? | [interviewer] What happens when he does make the baseline? |
490 | 00:28:57,527 | 00:29:00,905 | That's when Laimbeer and Mahorn would go up and knock him down to the ground. | That's when Laimbeer and Mahorn would go up and knock him down to the ground. |
491 | 00:29:03,074 | 00:29:05,243 | As soon as he steps in the paint... | As soon as he steps in the paint... |
492 | 00:29:06,286 | 00:29:07,286 | hit him. | hit him. |
493 | 00:29:07,996 | 00:29:10,457 | Chuck Daly said, "This is a 'Jordan Rule:' | Chuck Daly said, "This is a 'Jordan Rule:' |
494 | 00:29:10,540 | 00:29:12,959 | every time he go to the basket, put him on the ground." | every time he go to the basket, put him on the ground." |
495 | 00:29:13,668 | 00:29:15,420 | He comes to the basket, he ain't gonna dunk. | He comes to the basket, he ain't gonna dunk. |
496 | 00:29:15,503 | 00:29:17,338 | We gonna hit you. You gonna be on the ground. | We gonna hit you. You gonna be on the ground. |
497 | 00:29:17,422 | 00:29:18,822 | [commentator] Jordan is still down. | [commentator] Jordan is still down. |
498 | 00:29:18,882 | 00:29:20,776 | [Rodman] We are trying to physically hurt Michael. | [Rodman] We are trying to physically hurt Michael. |
499 | 00:29:20,800 | 00:29:24,095 | [commentator] Jordan had no place to go. Clobbered. | [commentator] Jordan had no place to go. Clobbered. |
500 | 00:29:25,263 | 00:29:26,890 | [Salley] How bad do you want it? | [Salley] How bad do you want it? |
501 | 00:29:27,557 | 00:29:30,810 | Are you willing to be injured to score a basket? | Are you willing to be injured to score a basket? |
502 | 00:29:30,894 | 00:29:34,230 | [commentator] The Pistons want to make Jordan pay whenever he gets in the paint. | [commentator] The Pistons want to make Jordan pay whenever he gets in the paint. |
503 | 00:29:34,314 | 00:29:37,984 | [Salley] The referees back then didn't look to see if Michael was hurt or not. | [Salley] The referees back then didn't look to see if Michael was hurt or not. |
504 | 00:29:38,067 | 00:29:41,946 | It wasn't, "Make sure that the savior is okay," it wasn't... | It wasn't, "Make sure that the savior is okay," it wasn't... |
505 | 00:29:42,030 | 00:29:43,406 | That wasn't the way it is. | That wasn't the way it is. |
506 | 00:29:43,490 | 00:29:44,741 | [buzzer sounds] | [buzzer sounds] |
507 | 00:29:44,824 | 00:29:49,788 | [commentator] It is over at the Palace. The Pistons have beaten the Bulls. | [commentator] It is over at the Palace. The Pistons have beaten the Bulls. |
508 | 00:29:51,164 | 00:29:54,709 | I could compare Michael Jordan to nobody because for him to survive that | I could compare Michael Jordan to nobody because for him to survive that |
509 | 00:29:54,793 | 00:29:59,297 | and still maintain that greatness, I mean, it's very unparalleled. | and still maintain that greatness, I mean, it's very unparalleled. |
510 | 00:29:59,380 | 00:30:02,217 | We were not ready for the Detroit Pistons | We were not ready for the Detroit Pistons |
511 | 00:30:02,300 | 00:30:03,593 | at that point in time. | at that point in time. |
512 | 00:30:03,676 | 00:30:07,806 | They were more physical than us. Uh, they were the aggressors. | They were more physical than us. Uh, they were the aggressors. |
513 | 00:30:07,889 | 00:30:09,432 | Detroit had our number. | Detroit had our number. |
514 | 00:30:09,516 | 00:30:13,394 | [commentator] The Detroit Pistons, by virtue of a 103-94 victory, | [commentator] The Detroit Pistons, by virtue of a 103-94 victory, |
515 | 00:30:13,478 | 00:30:16,523 | have eliminated the Bulls and indeed are headed for the finals. | have eliminated the Bulls and indeed are headed for the finals. |
516 | 00:30:16,606 | 00:30:19,484 | [TV anchor] Unfortunately for the Bulls, the story was the same. | [TV anchor] Unfortunately for the Bulls, the story was the same. |
517 | 00:30:19,567 | 00:30:21,528 | "Control Michael and the win is yours." | "Control Michael and the win is yours." |
518 | 00:30:25,490 | 00:30:27,075 | [Jordan] We did not have, as a unit, | [Jordan] We did not have, as a unit, |
519 | 00:30:27,158 | 00:30:30,411 | the confidence that we felt like we needed to beat Detroit. | the confidence that we felt like we needed to beat Detroit. |
520 | 00:30:31,287 | 00:30:32,447 | [commentator] The game's over | [commentator] The game's over |
521 | 00:30:32,497 | 00:30:34,377 | and the Pistons have won the world championship. | and the Pistons have won the world championship. |
522 | 00:30:36,751 | 00:30:38,711 | [announcer] They're going down in the record books | [announcer] They're going down in the record books |
523 | 00:30:38,753 | 00:30:42,257 | as one of the greatest defensive teams ever in the history of this league. | as one of the greatest defensive teams ever in the history of this league. |
524 | 00:30:43,007 | 00:30:46,094 | It seems that, in sports, there's always that one team... | It seems that, in sports, there's always that one team... |
525 | 00:30:46,678 | 00:30:48,346 | that you have to overcome, | that you have to overcome, |
526 | 00:30:48,930 | 00:30:52,559 | and you almost build your team to beat them, | and you almost build your team to beat them, |
527 | 00:30:52,642 | 00:30:57,480 | and unequivocally, for the Bulls, it was the Pistons. | and unequivocally, for the Bulls, it was the Pistons. |
528 | 00:31:07,866 | 00:31:09,784 | A friend of Dennis Rodman was worried enough | A friend of Dennis Rodman was worried enough |
529 | 00:31:09,868 | 00:31:14,289 | about the Piston's whereabouts overnight that he called 911 to initiate a search. | about the Piston's whereabouts overnight that he called 911 to initiate a search. |
530 | 00:31:14,372 | 00:31:18,209 | Police found Rodman at the Palace early this morning in Auburn Hills. | Police found Rodman at the Palace early this morning in Auburn Hills. |
531 | 00:31:18,293 | 00:31:21,421 | Rodman had taken his legally registered rifle with him. | Rodman had taken his legally registered rifle with him. |
532 | 00:31:21,504 | 00:31:23,965 | His mood characterized as despondent. | His mood characterized as despondent. |
533 | 00:31:24,966 | 00:31:27,719 | [reporter] What happened? Why are people concerned? | [reporter] What happened? Why are people concerned? |
534 | 00:31:27,802 | 00:31:29,137 | You get the right answer. | You get the right answer. |
535 | 00:31:30,680 | 00:31:31,680 | I'm here. | I'm here. |
536 | 00:31:32,307 | 00:31:34,187 | [reporter 1] That's Dennis at 8:00 this morning, | [reporter 1] That's Dennis at 8:00 this morning, |
537 | 00:31:34,267 | 00:31:36,477 | trying to assure reporters that he's fine, | trying to assure reporters that he's fine, |
538 | 00:31:36,561 | 00:31:38,980 | that he's not on the verge of an emotional breakdown, | that he's not on the verge of an emotional breakdown, |
539 | 00:31:39,063 | 00:31:42,233 | and that he did nothing out of the ordinary, at least for him. | and that he did nothing out of the ordinary, at least for him. |
540 | 00:31:42,317 | 00:31:47,238 | [reporter 2] The report that we have is he took a gun, had a gun in his truck. | [reporter 2] The report that we have is he took a gun, had a gun in his truck. |
541 | 00:31:47,322 | 00:31:49,991 | Uh, have you heard that, can you confirm that? | Uh, have you heard that, can you confirm that? |
542 | 00:31:50,074 | 00:31:52,785 | I've heard that, yeah. That's all I know. | I've heard that, yeah. That's all I know. |
543 | 00:31:52,869 | 00:31:56,289 | I had a gun in my hand, like, in the front seat. | I had a gun in my hand, like, in the front seat. |
544 | 00:31:57,081 | 00:32:01,169 | Luckily, I fell asleep, and the cops came and got me. | Luckily, I fell asleep, and the cops came and got me. |
545 | 00:32:03,171 | 00:32:06,758 | I was at a lost place at the time. Just a lost place. | I was at a lost place at the time. Just a lost place. |
546 | 00:32:09,969 | 00:32:14,933 | That time in my life, I think that was both a wake-up call and a rescue call. | That time in my life, I think that was both a wake-up call and a rescue call. |
547 | 00:32:15,016 | 00:32:19,562 | Last night may have been the last time we see Dennis Rodman in a Pistons uniform. | Last night may have been the last time we see Dennis Rodman in a Pistons uniform. |
548 | 00:32:19,646 | 00:32:22,982 | [commentator] Rodman used to be a Piston. [imitates buzzer] He's out of there. | [commentator] Rodman used to be a Piston. [imitates buzzer] He's out of there. |
549 | 00:32:23,566 | 00:32:27,028 | [reporter] The Worm is now a Spur, traded for Sean Elliott and David Wood. | [reporter] The Worm is now a Spur, traded for Sean Elliott and David Wood. |
550 | 00:32:27,904 | 00:32:29,781 | [Salley] Dennis goes to San Antonio, | [Salley] Dennis goes to San Antonio, |
551 | 00:32:29,864 | 00:32:33,076 | and then Demolition Man comes out, and he changes his hair color. | and then Demolition Man comes out, and he changes his hair color. |
552 | 00:32:33,159 | 00:32:34,786 | That's me, that's Dennis Rodman. | That's me, that's Dennis Rodman. |
553 | 00:32:36,245 | 00:32:37,580 | I'm not trying to please anybody. | I'm not trying to please anybody. |
554 | 00:32:38,164 | 00:32:39,707 | And Madonna goes, "He's cute." | And Madonna goes, "He's cute." |
555 | 00:32:40,208 | 00:32:41,960 | And they started seeing each other. | And they started seeing each other. |
556 | 00:32:42,627 | 00:32:44,712 | Madonna explained to him, | Madonna explained to him, |
557 | 00:32:44,796 | 00:32:48,341 | "You have to establish who you want to be in this life. | "You have to establish who you want to be in this life. |
558 | 00:32:48,424 | 00:32:51,094 | Don't be who they tell you you should be." | Don't be who they tell you you should be." |
559 | 00:32:52,220 | 00:32:57,058 | He started realizing he can push to any boundary, | He started realizing he can push to any boundary, |
560 | 00:32:57,141 | 00:32:59,185 | and that's a freedom. | and that's a freedom. |
561 | 00:32:59,268 | 00:33:03,106 | People that write the things in the paper don't really know Dennis Rodman. | People that write the things in the paper don't really know Dennis Rodman. |
562 | 00:33:03,189 | 00:33:06,776 | They don't even talk to me so they have to write something that's crazy and stupid | They don't even talk to me so they have to write something that's crazy and stupid |
563 | 00:33:06,859 | 00:33:08,528 | to make me look like an asshole. | to make me look like an asshole. |
564 | 00:33:08,611 | 00:33:12,031 | I just wanna do something that makes me feel like I'm free, | I just wanna do something that makes me feel like I'm free, |
565 | 00:33:12,115 | 00:33:14,075 | that I can go do anything I want to do. | that I can go do anything I want to do. |
566 | 00:33:14,575 | 00:33:16,744 | What does it mean? The outfits, the tattoos, | What does it mean? The outfits, the tattoos, |
567 | 00:33:16,828 | 00:33:21,749 | the sunglasses, the velvet hat, the rings, the... stuff. | the sunglasses, the velvet hat, the rings, the... stuff. |
568 | 00:33:22,417 | 00:33:23,417 | Why? | Why? |
569 | 00:33:23,459 | 00:33:25,712 | I like doing what I'm doing. | I like doing what I'm doing. |
570 | 00:33:25,795 | 00:33:29,007 | It makes me happy. It makes me feel like I'm a ten-year-old kid. | It makes me happy. It makes me feel like I'm a ten-year-old kid. |
571 | 00:33:29,507 | 00:33:32,468 | Can I ask you to do one thing for me before we leave this interview? | Can I ask you to do one thing for me before we leave this interview? |
572 | 00:33:32,969 | 00:33:35,388 | - Take off the hat. - Why does everybody say that to me? | - Take off the hat. - Why does everybody say that to me? |
573 | 00:33:35,471 | 00:33:38,057 | - Let me see what color it is. - It's no color. | - Let me see what color it is. - It's no color. |
574 | 00:33:38,141 | 00:33:40,977 | I've been pretty much lazy and just, "Hell with it." | I've been pretty much lazy and just, "Hell with it." |
575 | 00:33:41,060 | 00:33:42,770 | I'm thinking about shaving it off. | I'm thinking about shaving it off. |
576 | 00:33:45,481 | 00:33:47,650 | [Krause] I wanted no part of Dennis. | [Krause] I wanted no part of Dennis. |
577 | 00:33:47,734 | 00:33:49,193 | Didn't want anything to do with him. | Didn't want anything to do with him. |
578 | 00:33:49,277 | 00:33:52,572 | And, uh, Jimmy Stack, who was my assistant at that point, | And, uh, Jimmy Stack, who was my assistant at that point, |
579 | 00:33:52,655 | 00:33:54,490 | came to me, said, "Let's talk about Rodman." | came to me, said, "Let's talk about Rodman." |
580 | 00:33:54,574 | 00:33:56,409 | I said "No, I don't wanna talk about Rodman." | I said "No, I don't wanna talk about Rodman." |
581 | 00:33:56,909 | 00:33:59,328 | And he said, "Jerry, I've done some homework." | And he said, "Jerry, I've done some homework." |
582 | 00:33:59,412 | 00:34:03,499 | I really felt like I had a different perspective on Dennis. | I really felt like I had a different perspective on Dennis. |
583 | 00:34:03,583 | 00:34:06,794 | [commentator] Why, Dennis Rodman, who already has a T... | [commentator] Why, Dennis Rodman, who already has a T... |
584 | 00:34:06,878 | 00:34:09,964 | - [whistle blows] - ...gets another one, and out he goes. | - [whistle blows] - ...gets another one, and out he goes. |
585 | 00:34:10,548 | 00:34:13,885 | Dennis was acting out in San Antonio. | Dennis was acting out in San Antonio. |
586 | 00:34:15,845 | 00:34:19,974 | But I felt like the structure we had, with Michael and Scottie and the leadership, | But I felt like the structure we had, with Michael and Scottie and the leadership, |
587 | 00:34:20,558 | 00:34:23,811 | Dennis would respect those guys and play and thrive. | Dennis would respect those guys and play and thrive. |
588 | 00:34:24,312 | 00:34:26,689 | [Krause] If we had not had Michael and Scottie | [Krause] If we had not had Michael and Scottie |
589 | 00:34:26,773 | 00:34:29,692 | and the people in that locker room, we would've never taken Dennis. | and the people in that locker room, we would've never taken Dennis. |
590 | 00:34:29,776 | 00:34:32,695 | If Phil hadn't been the coach, I don't think we would've taken him. | If Phil hadn't been the coach, I don't think we would've taken him. |
591 | 00:34:32,779 | 00:34:34,864 | Because I knew that Phil could handle him. | Because I knew that Phil could handle him. |
592 | 00:34:35,865 | 00:34:38,493 | [interviewer] Do you remember your first meeting with Rodman? | [interviewer] Do you remember your first meeting with Rodman? |
593 | 00:34:38,576 | 00:34:39,827 | Oh, it was awful. | Oh, it was awful. |
594 | 00:34:41,245 | 00:34:43,247 | I walk into Jerry Krause's house. | I walk into Jerry Krause's house. |
595 | 00:34:44,248 | 00:34:48,127 | He's sitting on the couch. He's got a pool boy hat over his eyes, | He's sitting on the couch. He's got a pool boy hat over his eyes, |
596 | 00:34:48,211 | 00:34:50,755 | he's got the rings in his nose and his mouth, | he's got the rings in his nose and his mouth, |
597 | 00:34:50,838 | 00:34:54,300 | and he doesn't stand up to meet me. So I said, "Stand up, Dennis. | and he doesn't stand up to meet me. So I said, "Stand up, Dennis. |
598 | 00:34:54,383 | 00:34:57,512 | Take your hat off, shake hands. Let's go outside and talk." | Take your hat off, shake hands. Let's go outside and talk." |
599 | 00:34:57,595 | 00:35:00,515 | We had to break bread then, at the house. | We had to break bread then, at the house. |
600 | 00:35:00,598 | 00:35:02,725 | He said "Dennis, you wanna play for the Bulls?" | He said "Dennis, you wanna play for the Bulls?" |
601 | 00:35:02,809 | 00:35:05,770 | I said, "I don't care. Whatever. What's up?" | I said, "I don't care. Whatever. What's up?" |
602 | 00:35:05,853 | 00:35:07,814 | Last week, the Bulls announced the acquisition | Last week, the Bulls announced the acquisition |
603 | 00:35:07,897 | 00:35:09,524 | of a player many people consider | of a player many people consider |
604 | 00:35:09,607 | 00:35:12,193 | the most controversial basketball star in the NBA. | the most controversial basketball star in the NBA. |
605 | 00:35:12,902 | 00:35:17,156 | He is Dennis Rodman, one of the best rebounders in NBA history. | He is Dennis Rodman, one of the best rebounders in NBA history. |
606 | 00:35:17,240 | 00:35:20,701 | Is it one of the shrewdest moves the Bulls have ever made or one of the dumbest? | Is it one of the shrewdest moves the Bulls have ever made or one of the dumbest? |
607 | 00:35:20,785 | 00:35:22,995 | There was this visceral reaction to Rodman. | There was this visceral reaction to Rodman. |
608 | 00:35:23,079 | 00:35:26,624 | Rodman was at the center of the most hated team | Rodman was at the center of the most hated team |
609 | 00:35:26,707 | 00:35:28,042 | in the history of Chicago. | in the history of Chicago. |
610 | 00:35:28,126 | 00:35:32,547 | We all thought, "Well, there's no way they would ever accept him. | We all thought, "Well, there's no way they would ever accept him. |
611 | 00:35:32,630 | 00:35:35,258 | Even if they signed him, they will never accept him." | Even if they signed him, they will never accept him." |
612 | 00:35:35,341 | 00:35:37,260 | You know, and to their credit, | You know, and to their credit, |
613 | 00:35:37,343 | 00:35:40,263 | Jordan and Pippen, especially, said, "He can help us win. | Jordan and Pippen, especially, said, "He can help us win. |
614 | 00:35:40,346 | 00:35:42,348 | We know how tough he is." | We know how tough he is." |
615 | 00:35:42,431 | 00:35:44,892 | ["The Maestro" playing] | ["The Maestro" playing] |
616 | 00:35:47,520 | 00:35:50,332 | [interviewer] How did Dennis fit in with the team when he first arrived? | [interviewer] How did Dennis fit in with the team when he first arrived? |
617 | 00:35:50,356 | 00:35:51,983 | Like a hand in a glove. | Like a hand in a glove. |
618 | 00:35:52,984 | 00:35:55,903 | [Kerr] Dennis was a dominant defensive player, | [Kerr] Dennis was a dominant defensive player, |
619 | 00:35:56,487 | 00:35:59,198 | and what Dennis brought was exactly what we needed, | and what Dennis brought was exactly what we needed, |
620 | 00:35:59,282 | 00:36:02,535 | somebody who gave us that edge on the front line. | somebody who gave us that edge on the front line. |
621 | 00:36:02,618 | 00:36:04,912 | ♪ Who is the man comin' down your block? ♪ | ♪ Who is the man comin' down your block? ♪ |
622 | 00:36:05,329 | 00:36:08,332 | ♪ It's me you see With the funk in my walk ♪ | ♪ It's me you see With the funk in my walk ♪ |
623 | 00:36:08,416 | 00:36:10,751 | ♪ I'm doin' just what I like to ♪ | ♪ I'm doin' just what I like to ♪ |
624 | 00:36:10,835 | 00:36:13,254 | ♪ Today is my day yeah And I'mma get nice too ♪ | ♪ Today is my day yeah And I'mma get nice too ♪ |
625 | 00:36:13,337 | 00:36:16,132 | If he could do his job, then we're going to love him. | If he could do his job, then we're going to love him. |
626 | 00:36:16,215 | 00:36:19,677 | Play basketball and win. That's it. | Play basketball and win. That's it. |
627 | 00:36:20,386 | 00:36:21,762 | That's what he did. | That's what he did. |
628 | 00:36:21,846 | 00:36:23,723 | ♪ I am the maestro ♪ | ♪ I am the maestro ♪ |
629 | 00:36:24,348 | 00:36:27,602 | ♪ Yeah, you motherfuckers, I'm all that ♪ | ♪ Yeah, you motherfuckers, I'm all that ♪ |
630 | 00:36:28,019 | 00:36:29,379 | ♪ I see you lookin' at me sayin' ♪ | ♪ I see you lookin' at me sayin' ♪ |
631 | 00:36:29,437 | 00:36:32,857 | ♪ How can he be so skinny And live so phat? ♪ | ♪ How can he be so skinny And live so phat? ♪ |
632 | 00:36:32,940 | 00:36:34,150 | ♪ You know why... ♪ | ♪ You know why... ♪ |
633 | 00:36:34,233 | 00:36:36,277 | Dennis was one of the smartest guys I played with. | Dennis was one of the smartest guys I played with. |
634 | 00:36:36,777 | 00:36:40,364 | He understood defensive strategy, with all the rotations. | He understood defensive strategy, with all the rotations. |
635 | 00:36:40,448 | 00:36:42,950 | He had no limits in terms of what he does. | He had no limits in terms of what he does. |
636 | 00:36:43,034 | 00:36:45,745 | He could guard multiple players. | He could guard multiple players. |
637 | 00:36:46,329 | 00:36:49,916 | He studied each guy. He knew players' strengths and weaknesses. | He studied each guy. He knew players' strengths and weaknesses. |
638 | 00:36:50,833 | 00:36:52,627 | [commentator] Rodman with the interception... | [commentator] Rodman with the interception... |
639 | 00:36:52,710 | 00:36:55,379 | [Pippen] Dennis knows how to play his role well. | [Pippen] Dennis knows how to play his role well. |
640 | 00:36:55,463 | 00:36:59,800 | He has a great understanding of what it takes to win. | He has a great understanding of what it takes to win. |
641 | 00:37:00,885 | 00:37:03,054 | He's a huge reason for our success. | He's a huge reason for our success. |
642 | 00:37:03,554 | 00:37:06,098 | ♪ Who is the man? Who is the man? ♪ | ♪ Who is the man? Who is the man? ♪ |
643 | 00:37:07,683 | 00:37:10,186 | ♪ The maestro Give it up ♪ | ♪ The maestro Give it up ♪ |
644 | 00:37:10,645 | 00:37:11,687 | ♪ Who is the man? ♪ | ♪ Who is the man? ♪ |
645 | 00:37:12,355 | 00:37:14,690 | ♪ Three cheers for the maestro ♪ | ♪ Three cheers for the maestro ♪ |
646 | 00:37:43,844 | 00:37:45,721 | [Jordan] You know I was just kidding. | [Jordan] You know I was just kidding. |
647 | 00:37:45,805 | 00:37:48,808 | I know. You gave me a good article the other day. | I know. You gave me a good article the other day. |
648 | 00:37:48,891 | 00:37:50,611 | - I appreciate that. - [reporter] Which one? | - I appreciate that. - [reporter] Which one? |
649 | 00:37:50,643 | 00:37:52,770 | You said, "Quit worrying about what he's gonna do | You said, "Quit worrying about what he's gonna do |
650 | 00:37:52,853 | 00:37:55,564 | and live for the present. Don't worry about next year. | and live for the present. Don't worry about next year. |
651 | 00:37:55,648 | 00:37:58,401 | Leave him alone. Quit asking questions about what's happening." | Leave him alone. Quit asking questions about what's happening." |
652 | 00:37:58,484 | 00:37:59,724 | [reporter] I'm sick of it, too. | [reporter] I'm sick of it, too. |
653 | 00:37:59,777 | 00:38:02,780 | I'm tired of it, totally tired of it. I'mma stop talking to y'all. | I'm tired of it, totally tired of it. I'mma stop talking to y'all. |
654 | 00:38:02,863 | 00:38:04,198 | Just say, "Next question." | Just say, "Next question." |
655 | 00:38:04,282 | 00:38:06,951 | Y'all guys don't do it anymore, but it's on the road. | Y'all guys don't do it anymore, but it's on the road. |
656 | 00:38:07,034 | 00:38:08,595 | - That's what kills me. - [reporter] Yeah. | - That's what kills me. - [reporter] Yeah. |
657 | 00:38:08,619 | 00:38:11,789 | [reporter 2] It's gotta be a little draining, every city, like, | [reporter 2] It's gotta be a little draining, every city, like, |
658 | 00:38:11,872 | 00:38:14,625 | "Is it Michael's last game?" Everything that's going on with that. | "Is it Michael's last game?" Everything that's going on with that. |
659 | 00:38:14,709 | 00:38:17,837 | Is it wearing on you a little? Does it wear on you little bit? | Is it wearing on you a little? Does it wear on you little bit? |
660 | 00:38:17,920 | 00:38:20,047 | Yeah, it gets old. Questions don't change | Yeah, it gets old. Questions don't change |
661 | 00:38:20,131 | 00:38:22,341 | - and the answer is the same. - [reporters laugh] | - and the answer is the same. - [reporters laugh] |
662 | 00:38:22,425 | 00:38:25,136 | Wouldn't it be nice if Bulls fans could enjoy this title run | Wouldn't it be nice if Bulls fans could enjoy this title run |
663 | 00:38:25,219 | 00:38:27,779 | without worrying that it could be the final running of the Bulls? | without worrying that it could be the final running of the Bulls? |
664 | 00:38:27,847 | 00:38:30,099 | More questions in that vein for Michael Jordan today. | More questions in that vein for Michael Jordan today. |
665 | 00:38:30,182 | 00:38:32,184 | [reporter 3] You said that this is your last year. | [reporter 3] You said that this is your last year. |
666 | 00:38:32,268 | 00:38:34,037 | [reporter 4] Is this your last outing in the Bay Area? | [reporter 4] Is this your last outing in the Bay Area? |
667 | 00:38:34,061 | 00:38:35,330 | [reporter 5] Think it's your last season? | [reporter 5] Think it's your last season? |
668 | 00:38:35,354 | 00:38:37,274 | [reporter 6] Is it Michael's final run as a Bull? | [reporter 6] Is it Michael's final run as a Bull? |
669 | 00:38:37,315 | 00:38:39,084 | [reporter 7] Think it's your last time in Atlanta? | [reporter 7] Think it's your last time in Atlanta? |
670 | 00:38:39,108 | 00:38:41,610 | - [reporter 8] Should he retire? - It's his decision. | - [reporter 8] Should he retire? - It's his decision. |
671 | 00:38:41,694 | 00:38:44,447 | [reporter 9] We're required to ask every game if you're gonna retire. | [reporter 9] We're required to ask every game if you're gonna retire. |
672 | 00:38:44,530 | 00:38:45,865 | You're gonna get the same answer. | You're gonna get the same answer. |
673 | 00:38:45,948 | 00:38:49,785 | Although I may have the same answers, I practice them quite a bit. | Although I may have the same answers, I practice them quite a bit. |
674 | 00:38:49,869 | 00:38:51,120 | I don't know. I don't know. | I don't know. I don't know. |
675 | 00:38:51,203 | 00:38:52,872 | You never know. You never know. | You never know. You never know. |
676 | 00:38:52,955 | 00:38:54,081 | Beats me. | Beats me. |
677 | 00:38:54,165 | 00:38:57,293 | This may be the last time, the last dance, whatever, but... | This may be the last time, the last dance, whatever, but... |
678 | 00:38:57,376 | 00:38:59,712 | I'm not focusing on that, I'm focusing on the moment. | I'm not focusing on that, I'm focusing on the moment. |
679 | 00:38:59,795 | 00:39:02,548 | Enjoy the moment, you know, enjoy the game. | Enjoy the moment, you know, enjoy the game. |
680 | 00:39:02,631 | 00:39:05,468 | And whenever... Whatever happens for this organization, | And whenever... Whatever happens for this organization, |
681 | 00:39:05,551 | 00:39:06,969 | at the end of the season, happens. | at the end of the season, happens. |
682 | 00:39:07,053 | 00:39:08,322 | What happens after that happens. | What happens after that happens. |
683 | 00:39:08,346 | 00:39:13,476 | I think people, well, the media basically, are trying to redirect, trying to change | I think people, well, the media basically, are trying to redirect, trying to change |
684 | 00:39:13,559 | 00:39:17,521 | some kind of little emphasis within the question and see if my answers change, | some kind of little emphasis within the question and see if my answers change, |
685 | 00:39:17,605 | 00:39:18,939 | and my response won't change. | and my response won't change. |
686 | 00:39:19,023 | 00:39:20,983 | So what about next year, Michael? [laughs] | So what about next year, Michael? [laughs] |
687 | 00:39:21,067 | 00:39:22,276 | [all laugh] | [all laugh] |
688 | 00:39:23,194 | 00:39:26,864 | You guys are... I love you guys. You're great. Excuse me. | You guys are... I love you guys. You're great. Excuse me. |
689 | 00:39:39,919 | 00:39:42,213 | Okay, everybody, let's go meet the Sniff Brothers. | Okay, everybody, let's go meet the Sniff Brothers. |
690 | 00:39:42,296 | 00:39:44,298 | [indistinct chatter] | [indistinct chatter] |
691 | 00:39:46,592 | 00:39:48,844 | These are the Sniff Brothers over here. | These are the Sniff Brothers over here. |
692 | 00:39:48,928 | 00:39:52,306 | First, there's Gus Sniff, CT Sniff, | First, there's Gus Sniff, CT Sniff, |
693 | 00:39:52,390 | 00:39:55,059 | Calvin Sniff, Tom Sniff. | Calvin Sniff, Tom Sniff. |
694 | 00:39:55,142 | 00:39:57,102 | - John Michael Sniff. - That's John Michael Sniff. | - John Michael Sniff. - That's John Michael Sniff. |
695 | 00:39:57,144 | 00:39:57,978 | [man] George Sniff. | [man] George Sniff. |
696 | 00:39:58,062 | 00:40:00,689 | [Ligmanowski] The Sniff Brothers. They take care of Michael. | [Ligmanowski] The Sniff Brothers. They take care of Michael. |
697 | 00:40:00,773 | 00:40:04,568 | Sniff Brothers are Michael's security guys. | Sniff Brothers are Michael's security guys. |
698 | 00:40:05,152 | 00:40:07,363 | A sniff brother is actually a jock sniffer. | A sniff brother is actually a jock sniffer. |
699 | 00:40:07,446 | 00:40:10,616 | [laughs] So we used to say everybody was sniffing Michael's jocks. | [laughs] So we used to say everybody was sniffing Michael's jocks. |
700 | 00:40:10,699 | 00:40:12,284 | All those guys would always be around. | All those guys would always be around. |
701 | 00:40:12,368 | 00:40:16,789 | He's the general sniff right here. Brigadier General Gus Sniff. | He's the general sniff right here. Brigadier General Gus Sniff. |
702 | 00:40:17,790 | 00:40:19,917 | - [man] Brigadier General. - [all chuckling] | - [man] Brigadier General. - [all chuckling] |
703 | 00:40:22,169 | 00:40:23,170 | [Ligmanowski] All right. | [Ligmanowski] All right. |
704 | 00:40:23,254 | 00:40:25,589 | [Jordan] Y'all get out of here. We got a heated debate. | [Jordan] Y'all get out of here. We got a heated debate. |
705 | 00:40:25,673 | 00:40:28,509 | Heated debate about the president. Y'all gotta get out of here. | Heated debate about the president. Y'all gotta get out of here. |
706 | 00:40:29,385 | 00:40:31,429 | [man] He'll be running the country next week. | [man] He'll be running the country next week. |
707 | 00:40:31,512 | 00:40:33,055 | Gus is gonna be running the country. | Gus is gonna be running the country. |
708 | 00:40:33,139 | 00:40:35,182 | [Ligmanowski] If the president had Sniff Brothers, | [Ligmanowski] If the president had Sniff Brothers, |
709 | 00:40:35,266 | 00:40:36,559 | he wouldn't have this problem. | he wouldn't have this problem. |
710 | 00:40:36,642 | 00:40:37,726 | [all laugh] | [all laugh] |
711 | 00:40:42,106 | 00:40:43,482 | [Sager] That'll pay for your fine. | [Sager] That'll pay for your fine. |
712 | 00:40:43,566 | 00:40:46,235 | - Oh, yeah? It'll pay for my fine, see? - [laughs] | - Oh, yeah? It'll pay for my fine, see? - [laughs] |
713 | 00:40:47,528 | 00:40:48,571 | See what I'm saying? | See what I'm saying? |
714 | 00:40:49,029 | 00:40:52,575 | All people that's in the business are crooked, too. I'm letting you know. | All people that's in the business are crooked, too. I'm letting you know. |
715 | 00:40:52,658 | 00:40:56,162 | That was Craig Sager gave me 20 bucks to pay for my fine. | That was Craig Sager gave me 20 bucks to pay for my fine. |
716 | 00:40:56,745 | 00:40:59,345 | - [man] Sounds like a bribe. Report him. - That's what I'm saying. | - [man] Sounds like a bribe. Report him. - That's what I'm saying. |
717 | 00:40:59,415 | 00:41:02,543 | He must want to interview me. He wants something. That's his problem. | He must want to interview me. He wants something. That's his problem. |
718 | 00:41:05,337 | 00:41:06,714 | [man] He's just saying hi. | [man] He's just saying hi. |
719 | 00:41:09,216 | 00:41:10,593 | Thank you so much. | Thank you so much. |
720 | 00:41:12,178 | 00:41:13,378 | [woman] They love you so much. | [woman] They love you so much. |
721 | 00:41:13,429 | 00:41:15,848 | ...the entertainment... Anyway, entertainment... | ...the entertainment... Anyway, entertainment... |
722 | 00:41:15,931 | 00:41:17,016 | [Rodman] Here you go, dude. | [Rodman] Here you go, dude. |
723 | 00:41:17,099 | 00:41:20,311 | Oh, my God! Thank you! | Oh, my God! Thank you! |
724 | 00:41:20,394 | 00:41:21,479 | [boy] Just a signature! | [boy] Just a signature! |
725 | 00:41:21,562 | 00:41:24,565 | Please, Mr. Rodman. Thank you so much. | Please, Mr. Rodman. Thank you so much. |
726 | 00:41:26,192 | 00:41:27,485 | [Rodman] Y'all like Chicago? | [Rodman] Y'all like Chicago? |
727 | 00:41:27,568 | 00:41:29,737 | - Yes, it's awesome. - [woman] We love it. | - Yes, it's awesome. - [woman] We love it. |
728 | 00:41:29,820 | 00:41:32,364 | - You need to come to Nashville sometime. - No, hell no. | - You need to come to Nashville sometime. - No, hell no. |
729 | 00:41:32,448 | 00:41:35,201 | I've been to Nashville, brother, uh-uh. No. | I've been to Nashville, brother, uh-uh. No. |
730 | 00:41:49,006 | 00:41:50,341 | [man chuckles] | [man chuckles] |
731 | 00:41:50,424 | 00:41:54,303 | Two months ago, Scottie Pippen said he would never play for the Bulls again. | Two months ago, Scottie Pippen said he would never play for the Bulls again. |
732 | 00:41:54,386 | 00:41:58,474 | But he softened his stance, saying he was looking forward to returning to the team. | But he softened his stance, saying he was looking forward to returning to the team. |
733 | 00:41:58,557 | 00:42:00,893 | So the question became when would he come back? | So the question became when would he come back? |
734 | 00:42:01,977 | 00:42:03,737 | [interviewer] What made you change your mind? | [interviewer] What made you change your mind? |
735 | 00:42:04,563 | 00:42:07,441 | - Change my mind about coming to play? - [interviewer] Yeah. | - Change my mind about coming to play? - [interviewer] Yeah. |
736 | 00:42:08,025 | 00:42:11,362 | I just... I knew that it was probably going to come down | I just... I knew that it was probably going to come down |
737 | 00:42:11,445 | 00:42:15,324 | to me and the team trying to play hardball, | to me and the team trying to play hardball, |
738 | 00:42:15,407 | 00:42:17,701 | and I would lose in that situation | and I would lose in that situation |
739 | 00:42:17,785 | 00:42:21,580 | because they would start to fine me, probably, so, uh... | because they would start to fine me, probably, so, uh... |
740 | 00:42:23,874 | 00:42:26,877 | I wasn't going to let them benefit in that way. | I wasn't going to let them benefit in that way. |
741 | 00:42:27,753 | 00:42:34,218 | Bottom line is, uh, I was willing to accept a trade if they did it. | Bottom line is, uh, I was willing to accept a trade if they did it. |
742 | 00:42:34,301 | 00:42:36,679 | And I knew they wasn't going to do it. | And I knew they wasn't going to do it. |
743 | 00:42:37,471 | 00:42:39,932 | [reporter] After watching 35 games from the bench, | [reporter] After watching 35 games from the bench, |
744 | 00:42:40,015 | 00:42:43,811 | the Bulls forward suited up at the United Center tonight and took the court. | the Bulls forward suited up at the United Center tonight and took the court. |
745 | 00:42:43,894 | 00:42:47,022 | [commentator] As for Dennis Rodman, check out the newest hairstyle. | [commentator] As for Dennis Rodman, check out the newest hairstyle. |
746 | 00:42:47,106 | 00:42:51,235 | Word is that those are 33s in tribute to Pippen's return. | Word is that those are 33s in tribute to Pippen's return. |
747 | 00:42:51,819 | 00:42:54,280 | [reporter] Pippen ended up playing 31 minutes, | [reporter] Pippen ended up playing 31 minutes, |
748 | 00:42:54,363 | 00:42:57,700 | scoring 14 points, grabbing four rebounds, dishing out five assists, | scoring 14 points, grabbing four rebounds, dishing out five assists, |
749 | 00:42:57,783 | 00:43:01,328 | and the Bulls have to feel uplifted by having Pippen back. | and the Bulls have to feel uplifted by having Pippen back. |
750 | 00:43:02,079 | 00:43:03,747 | [Smith] When Scottie wasn't there, | [Smith] When Scottie wasn't there, |
751 | 00:43:03,831 | 00:43:06,959 | Dennis loved the fact that Michael needed him. | Dennis loved the fact that Michael needed him. |
752 | 00:43:07,876 | 00:43:09,003 | Hey, Dennis... | Hey, Dennis... |
753 | 00:43:10,462 | 00:43:13,090 | Let me know when Oakley's gonna set a back screen on me. | Let me know when Oakley's gonna set a back screen on me. |
754 | 00:43:13,757 | 00:43:15,610 | - He set that screen right there so he... - Yeah. | - He set that screen right there so he... - Yeah. |
755 | 00:43:15,634 | 00:43:17,469 | You want me to open up and just hold him? | You want me to open up and just hold him? |
756 | 00:43:18,387 | 00:43:20,681 | If you have to switch out, switch out. | If you have to switch out, switch out. |
757 | 00:43:20,764 | 00:43:22,951 | I can stop Houston right there, Oak's gotta turn around, | I can stop Houston right there, Oak's gotta turn around, |
758 | 00:43:22,975 | 00:43:25,615 | - I can stop him as you catch up. - When the clock is running down, | - I can stop him as you catch up. - When the clock is running down, |
759 | 00:43:25,686 | 00:43:27,813 | he's setting that screen, and veering over the top... | he's setting that screen, and veering over the top... |
760 | 00:43:28,606 | 00:43:30,357 | switch in that situation. | switch in that situation. |
761 | 00:43:30,899 | 00:43:34,862 | He was, "Hey, Michael, it's me and you. We got this." | He was, "Hey, Michael, it's me and you. We got this." |
762 | 00:43:35,863 | 00:43:38,324 | And when Scottie came back, that's when they lost him. | And when Scottie came back, that's when they lost him. |
763 | 00:43:39,158 | 00:43:42,411 | [Rodman] When Scottie came back, we've got the Three Amigos again, | [Rodman] When Scottie came back, we've got the Three Amigos again, |
764 | 00:43:42,494 | 00:43:45,414 | and I'm pretty much the third wheel of the family. | and I'm pretty much the third wheel of the family. |
765 | 00:43:46,290 | 00:43:52,212 | Rodman's descent became dramatic, his drinking, his partying, | Rodman's descent became dramatic, his drinking, his partying, |
766 | 00:43:52,296 | 00:43:54,757 | his connection with reality. | his connection with reality. |
767 | 00:43:55,883 | 00:43:57,468 | [Rodman] People don't understand, | [Rodman] People don't understand, |
768 | 00:43:57,551 | 00:44:00,721 | it's just not basketball that we have to deal with on this team. | it's just not basketball that we have to deal with on this team. |
769 | 00:44:00,804 | 00:44:07,478 | It's the pressure of the bullshit, you know. I'll play the game for free, | It's the pressure of the bullshit, you know. I'll play the game for free, |
770 | 00:44:07,561 | 00:44:11,023 | but you get paid for the bullshit after you leave the floor. | but you get paid for the bullshit after you leave the floor. |
771 | 00:44:11,857 | 00:44:14,610 | The public pressure, the media pressure. | The public pressure, the media pressure. |
772 | 00:44:15,110 | 00:44:18,030 | - Get out of my face, I'm done. I'm done. - [reporters laugh] | - Get out of my face, I'm done. I'm done. - [reporters laugh] |
773 | 00:44:19,615 | 00:44:20,699 | I'm not talking, man. | I'm not talking, man. |
774 | 00:44:21,200 | 00:44:22,910 | No comment. How about that one? | No comment. How about that one? |
775 | 00:44:27,706 | 00:44:29,917 | Basketball is simple, it's a simple game, | Basketball is simple, it's a simple game, |
776 | 00:44:30,000 | 00:44:33,045 | but when you leave this confined zone... | but when you leave this confined zone... |
777 | 00:44:34,546 | 00:44:36,090 | It's hard, it's hard. | It's hard, it's hard. |
778 | 00:44:37,216 | 00:44:40,094 | I never have to prove anything to people in this country. | I never have to prove anything to people in this country. |
779 | 00:44:40,177 | 00:44:44,056 | This business can kiss my ass. I don't give a damn what they think about me. | This business can kiss my ass. I don't give a damn what they think about me. |
780 | 00:44:45,683 | 00:44:48,644 | Everybody understood Dennis' impact on the group, | Everybody understood Dennis' impact on the group, |
781 | 00:44:48,727 | 00:44:52,564 | and we understood that he had, uh, different, uh... | and we understood that he had, uh, different, uh... |
782 | 00:44:53,315 | 00:44:55,943 | needs in his personal life than we did. | needs in his personal life than we did. |
783 | 00:44:56,527 | 00:44:58,527 | [interviewer] I'll play you something from Michael. | [interviewer] I'll play you something from Michael. |
784 | 00:45:03,867 | 00:45:07,287 | [Jordan] While Scottie was out, Dennis was a model citizen, | [Jordan] While Scottie was out, Dennis was a model citizen, |
785 | 00:45:07,371 | 00:45:11,542 | to a point where it was driving him fucking insane. | to a point where it was driving him fucking insane. |
786 | 00:45:11,625 | 00:45:14,878 | So, when Scottie came back, | So, when Scottie came back, |
787 | 00:45:14,962 | 00:45:17,131 | Dennis wanted to take a vacation. | Dennis wanted to take a vacation. |
788 | 00:45:17,214 | 00:45:18,090 | [laughs] | [laughs] |
789 | 00:45:18,173 | 00:45:22,386 | I come to practice. Phil calls me, says, "Dennis wants to tell you something." | I come to practice. Phil calls me, says, "Dennis wants to tell you something." |
790 | 00:45:22,469 | 00:45:23,345 | [chuckles] | [chuckles] |
791 | 00:45:23,429 | 00:45:26,890 | When Dennis wants to tell me something, I knew it's not something I want to hear. | When Dennis wants to tell me something, I knew it's not something I want to hear. |
792 | 00:45:26,974 | 00:45:28,892 | It sounds... [chuckling] | It sounds... [chuckling] |
793 | 00:45:28,976 | 00:45:32,271 | So, Dennis says, "I need a vacation." | So, Dennis says, "I need a vacation." |
794 | 00:45:32,354 | 00:45:35,232 | And I look at Phil, "Phil, what do you mean, a vacation?" | And I look at Phil, "Phil, what do you mean, a vacation?" |
795 | 00:45:35,315 | 00:45:37,735 | He says, "He needs a vacation, time off to let loose." | He says, "He needs a vacation, time off to let loose." |
796 | 00:45:37,818 | 00:45:40,237 | I said, "Look, Phil, let me tell you something, man. | I said, "Look, Phil, let me tell you something, man. |
797 | 00:45:40,738 | 00:45:43,198 | If anybody need a fucking vacation, I need a vacation." | If anybody need a fucking vacation, I need a vacation." |
798 | 00:45:43,282 | 00:45:46,452 | He says... We look at Dennis, "Dennis, what are you gonna do?" | He says... We look at Dennis, "Dennis, what are you gonna do?" |
799 | 00:45:47,327 | 00:45:49,121 | He says, "Well, I need to go to Vegas." | He says, "Well, I need to go to Vegas." |
800 | 00:45:49,204 | 00:45:50,664 | [laughs] | [laughs] |
801 | 00:45:52,332 | 00:45:55,461 | "Phil, you let this dude go to vacation, we're not going to see him. | "Phil, you let this dude go to vacation, we're not going to see him. |
802 | 00:45:55,544 | 00:45:58,130 | You let him go to Vegas, we definitely not going to see him." | You let him go to Vegas, we definitely not going to see him." |
803 | 00:45:58,922 | 00:46:01,258 | So, he looks at Dennis, he says, "Dennis, well, | So, he looks at Dennis, he says, "Dennis, well, |
804 | 00:46:01,341 | 00:46:03,802 | can your vacation be, like, 48 hours?" | can your vacation be, like, 48 hours?" |
805 | 00:46:04,344 | 00:46:05,554 | And Dennis is like, | And Dennis is like, |
806 | 00:46:05,637 | 00:46:09,141 | "I got no other choice, I take whatever you can give me, I'll take the 48 hours." | "I got no other choice, I take whatever you can give me, I'll take the 48 hours." |
807 | 00:46:09,224 | 00:46:12,186 | "Forty-eight hours. You got 48 hours, Dennis." | "Forty-eight hours. You got 48 hours, Dennis." |
808 | 00:46:12,269 | 00:46:15,814 | I'm looking at Phil, "You ain't gonna get that dude back in 48 hours. | I'm looking at Phil, "You ain't gonna get that dude back in 48 hours. |
809 | 00:46:15,898 | 00:46:17,775 | I don't care what you say. He's done. | I don't care what you say. He's done. |
810 | 00:46:17,858 | 00:46:19,777 | Okay. 48 hours." | Okay. 48 hours." |
811 | 00:46:20,861 | 00:46:24,656 | If he leaves that room, go straight to the airport... Boom! | If he leaves that room, go straight to the airport... Boom! |
812 | 00:46:24,740 | 00:46:26,950 | They don't hear or see Dennis for 48 hours. | They don't hear or see Dennis for 48 hours. |
813 | 00:46:28,035 | 00:46:30,078 | [chuckles] I remember that. | [chuckles] I remember that. |
814 | 00:46:30,162 | 00:46:33,207 | I went to fucking Vegas. [laughs] | I went to fucking Vegas. [laughs] |
815 | 00:46:33,290 | 00:46:34,625 | [motorbike engine running] | [motorbike engine running] |
816 | 00:46:35,250 | 00:46:36,376 | [crowd yelling] | [crowd yelling] |
817 | 00:46:40,798 | 00:46:45,928 | [Kerr] Dennis was bizarre, but I think what made it work was | [Kerr] Dennis was bizarre, but I think what made it work was |
818 | 00:46:46,011 | 00:46:48,972 | Phil and Michael's understanding... | Phil and Michael's understanding... |
819 | 00:46:49,556 | 00:46:52,392 | that to get the most out of him on the court, | that to get the most out of him on the court, |
820 | 00:46:52,476 | 00:46:54,186 | you had to give him some rope. | you had to give him some rope. |
821 | 00:46:54,728 | 00:46:56,855 | And they gave him a lot of rope. | And they gave him a lot of rope. |
822 | 00:46:56,939 | 00:46:58,190 | [engine revving] | [engine revving] |