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1 00:00:19,019 00:00:20,379 [Rodman] I could have been a bomb, [Rodman] I could have been a bomb,
2 00:00:20,437 00:00:22,397 I could have been in jail, I could have been dead. I could have been in jail, I could have been dead.
3 00:00:22,439 00:00:24,524 But I worked my ass off to get here. But I worked my ass off to get here.
4 00:00:33,033 00:00:35,368 You hear a lot of negative things about Dennis Rodman. You hear a lot of negative things about Dennis Rodman.
5 00:00:35,827 00:00:37,746 Well, people don't actually know Dennis Rodman. Well, people don't actually know Dennis Rodman.
6 00:00:37,829 00:00:40,707 They just see what they see on the court and read in the papers, They just see what they see on the court and read in the papers,
7 00:00:40,790 00:00:42,792 and they say, "God, he's a bad person." and they say, "God, he's a bad person."
8 00:00:44,419 00:00:46,880 [interviewer] Does it hurt you that the public perceives you [interviewer] Does it hurt you that the public perceives you
9 00:00:46,963 00:00:49,215 as this bombastic, crazy guy? as this bombastic, crazy guy?
10 00:00:50,258 00:00:53,094 No, I just think that I created this monster. No, I just think that I created this monster.
11 00:00:56,097 00:01:00,018 But, uh, nobody could say anything bad about me as a teammate. But, uh, nobody could say anything bad about me as a teammate.
12 00:01:01,394 00:01:03,104 You got the great Michael Jordan, You got the great Michael Jordan,
13 00:01:03,188 00:01:05,315 the great Scottie Pippen, the great Phil Jackson, the great Scottie Pippen, the great Phil Jackson,
14 00:01:05,899 00:01:10,278 but if you take me away from this team, do they still win a championship? but if you take me away from this team, do they still win a championship?
15 00:01:11,946 00:01:13,114 I don't think so. I don't think so.
16 00:01:15,200 00:01:18,745 I love Michael Jordan to death. I love Scottie Pippen, all these guys, I love Michael Jordan to death. I love Scottie Pippen, all these guys,
17 00:01:18,828 00:01:21,372 but they really don't do the things that I do. but they really don't do the things that I do.
18 00:01:25,543 00:01:27,629 I'm the only guy who does all the dirty work, I'm the only guy who does all the dirty work,
19 00:01:27,712 00:01:29,339 taking abuse from other players. taking abuse from other players.
20 00:01:31,174 00:01:33,843 I wanna go out there and get my nose broke, I wanna get cut. I wanna go out there and get my nose broke, I wanna get cut.
21 00:01:35,220 00:01:37,722 Something that's gonna really just bring out the... Something that's gonna really just bring out the...
22 00:01:38,598 00:01:40,642 the hurt, the pain. the hurt, the pain.
23 00:01:41,518 00:01:42,644 I wanna feel that. I wanna feel that.
24 00:01:46,272 00:01:47,774 [commentator 1] A spectacular move! [commentator 1] A spectacular move!
25 00:01:47,857 00:01:49,442 [commentator 2] The game's over! [commentator 2] The game's over!
26 00:01:49,526 00:01:51,861 [commentator 3] Chicago Stadium is going wild! [commentator 3] Chicago Stadium is going wild!
27 00:01:53,822 00:01:56,324 [Jackson] First of all, there's no backstabbing going on here. [Jackson] First of all, there's no backstabbing going on here.
28 00:01:56,407 00:01:57,283 It's time for me to move on. It's time for me to move on.
29 00:01:57,367 00:01:59,767 [Krause] This will be Phil's last year as coach of the Bulls. [Krause] This will be Phil's last year as coach of the Bulls.
30 00:02:02,372 00:02:04,934 [man 1] Are the expectations too high? [man 2] Where do we go from here? [man 1] Are the expectations too high? [man 2] Where do we go from here?
31 00:02:04,958 00:02:07,460 [woman] The only question: how long can it last? [woman] The only question: how long can it last?
32 00:02:23,977 00:02:27,272 [analyst 1] They still might be considered world champs, but so far this season, [analyst 1] They still might be considered world champs, but so far this season,
33 00:02:27,355 00:02:30,608 the Chicago Bulls have looked more like that old circus act from the '80s the Chicago Bulls have looked more like that old circus act from the '80s
34 00:02:30,692 00:02:33,111 called "Michael and his Jordanaires." called "Michael and his Jordanaires."
35 00:02:33,194 00:02:36,406 [analyst 2] They need help. They're reeling, looking average. [analyst 2] They need help. They're reeling, looking average.
36 00:02:36,906 00:02:38,908 [analyst 1] As for MJ's supporting cast, [analyst 1] As for MJ's supporting cast,
37 00:02:38,992 00:02:41,286 Rodman is having trouble getting out of the gate. Rodman is having trouble getting out of the gate.
38 00:02:43,621 00:02:47,167 [reporter] Michael, are you tired of talking about Pippen and all that yet? [reporter] Michael, are you tired of talking about Pippen and all that yet?
39 00:02:47,250 00:02:48,334 [Jordan] Pretty much. [Jordan] Pretty much.
40 00:02:49,335 00:02:51,713 Until something happens, until he says what he's gonna do, Until something happens, until he says what he's gonna do,
41 00:02:51,796 00:02:53,840 we have to continue on. We gotta do our jobs. we have to continue on. We gotta do our jobs.
42 00:02:57,218 00:02:58,469 [man] Let's go, fellas. [man] Let's go, fellas.
43 00:02:58,553 00:02:59,721 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
44 00:03:00,805 00:03:03,805 [commentator] First meeting with Michael the player against Larry the coach. [commentator] First meeting with Michael the player against Larry the coach.
45 00:03:03,850 00:03:05,643 Bulls and Pacers. Bulls and Pacers.
46 00:03:06,895 00:03:08,897 Dennis Rodman, blocked by Dale Davis. Dennis Rodman, blocked by Dale Davis.
47 00:03:08,980 00:03:10,106 Reggie Miller. Reggie Miller.
48 00:03:10,732 00:03:13,401 Look at the crossover, right past Jordan for the hoop. Look at the crossover, right past Jordan for the hoop.
49 00:03:13,484 00:03:16,029 Phil Jackson, we've seen that look before this year. Phil Jackson, we've seen that look before this year.
50 00:03:16,112 00:03:18,823 Pacers go on to the win, dropping the Bulls to 8-7. Pacers go on to the win, dropping the Bulls to 8-7.
51 00:03:18,907 00:03:22,035 Last season, Chicago didn't lose their seventh until game 56. Last season, Chicago didn't lose their seventh until game 56.
52 00:03:22,493 00:03:23,953 We missed a lot of easy shots. We missed a lot of easy shots.
53 00:03:24,037 00:03:25,717 We haven't shot the ball particularly well. We haven't shot the ball particularly well.
54 00:03:26,247 00:03:28,917 But, uh, tonight what killed us was our rebounding. But, uh, tonight what killed us was our rebounding.
55 00:03:29,000 00:03:30,501 Our rebounding was horrendous. Our rebounding was horrendous.
56 00:03:31,085 00:03:33,366 We couldn't get the rebound, we couldn't clear the boards. We couldn't get the rebound, we couldn't clear the boards.
57 00:03:35,840 00:03:39,928 [Jackson] Dennis is kind of lagging back there behind everybody else [Jackson] Dennis is kind of lagging back there behind everybody else
58 00:03:40,011 00:03:43,097 in, you know, his enthusiasm for the game right now. in, you know, his enthusiasm for the game right now.
59 00:03:43,890 00:03:46,434 Dennis Rodman's the best on-ball defender Dennis Rodman's the best on-ball defender
60 00:03:46,517 00:03:49,479 I've ever seen in 30 years. I've ever seen in 30 years.
61 00:03:50,980 00:03:55,944 The problem was that he wasn't always motivated to play. The problem was that he wasn't always motivated to play.
62 00:03:56,027 00:03:58,446 It's another one of those periods that I'm bored as hell. It's another one of those periods that I'm bored as hell.
63 00:03:58,529 00:04:02,242 I gotta find some way to put a log on the fire. I gotta find some way to put a log on the fire.
64 00:04:04,869 00:04:07,247 ...that's a low blow down here, right? Intentional foul. ...that's a low blow down here, right? Intentional foul.
65 00:04:07,330 00:04:08,581 I didn't see it that way. I didn't see it that way.
66 00:04:09,415 00:04:11,251 There's a lot of things I don't see. There's a lot of things I don't see.
67 00:04:15,421 00:04:17,757 Most of the time, though, I see the shit you do. Most of the time, though, I see the shit you do.
68 00:04:21,970 00:04:23,850 [Jordan] Dennis hadn't accepted the role that... [Jordan] Dennis hadn't accepted the role that...
69 00:04:24,722 00:04:28,101 Scottie wasn't gonna be around and we needed you to be more accountable. Scottie wasn't gonna be around and we needed you to be more accountable.
70 00:04:28,184 00:04:29,727 I need to count on you. I need to count on you.
71 00:04:30,311 00:04:35,358 So, around that time, we had a game, and he gets kicked out for some shit. So, around that time, we had a game, and he gets kicked out for some shit.
72 00:04:36,484 00:04:39,654 And I'm livid, because he got kicked out of the game And I'm livid, because he got kicked out of the game
73 00:04:39,737 00:04:42,657 and leaves me out there by myself 'cause Scottie's not playing. and leaves me out there by myself 'cause Scottie's not playing.
74 00:04:43,241 00:04:45,994 And Dennis knew he fucked up. He knew he screwed up. And Dennis knew he fucked up. He knew he screwed up.
75 00:04:47,829 00:04:50,456 I hear someone knocking on my door at the hotel. I hear someone knocking on my door at the hotel.
76 00:04:51,291 00:04:53,334 Now, Dennis never comes in my room, Now, Dennis never comes in my room,
77 00:04:53,418 00:04:56,045 and he comes and says, "Man, you got an extra cigar?" and he comes and says, "Man, you got an extra cigar?"
78 00:04:56,838 00:04:59,340 I went to Michael Jordan's room, asked for a cigar, but... I went to Michael Jordan's room, asked for a cigar, but...
79 00:04:59,757 00:05:02,844 But I think that he knew the fact that... But I think that he knew the fact that...
80 00:05:03,386 00:05:04,887 That's probably his way... That's probably his way...
81 00:05:04,971 00:05:08,683 Of me showing him that, you know, "Man, my thing, my bad." Of me showing him that, you know, "Man, my thing, my bad."
82 00:05:09,684 00:05:11,853 He didn't say an apology, he didn't say anything, He didn't say an apology, he didn't say anything,
83 00:05:12,437 00:05:13,813 but by him coming to my room, but by him coming to my room,
84 00:05:13,896 00:05:16,024 it was his way of saying, "Look, I fucked up." it was his way of saying, "Look, I fucked up."
85 00:05:17,233 00:05:20,236 And from that point on, Dennis was straight as an arrow. And from that point on, Dennis was straight as an arrow.
86 00:05:20,820 00:05:22,238 And we started to win. And we started to win.
87 00:05:22,322 00:05:24,032 [man] I'd like to ask y'all one question. [man] I'd like to ask y'all one question.
88 00:05:24,115 00:05:26,451 - What time is it? - [all] Game time! [grunt] - What time is it? - [all] Game time! [grunt]
89 00:05:36,878 00:05:40,298 When Scottie left, I think Mike had a lot of confidence in me When Scottie left, I think Mike had a lot of confidence in me
90 00:05:40,381 00:05:42,467 to know that I'm gonna be there for him. to know that I'm gonna be there for him.
91 00:05:42,550 00:05:45,178 I'm not going to let him down, I'm not going to let the team down, I'm not going to let him down, I'm not going to let the team down,
92 00:05:45,261 00:05:46,846 let the city down. No. let the city down. No.
93 00:05:48,973 00:05:51,768 [commentator 1] Rodman clears the defensive board for the Bulls. [commentator 1] Rodman clears the defensive board for the Bulls.
94 00:05:54,562 00:05:58,107 [commentator 2] Nets gave it a whirl, but just did not have enough. [commentator 2] Nets gave it a whirl, but just did not have enough.
95 00:05:58,191 00:06:03,905 The defending champion Chicago Bulls knocked off the New Jersey Nets 100 to 92. The defending champion Chicago Bulls knocked off the New Jersey Nets 100 to 92.
96 00:06:03,988 00:06:06,699 Dennis is what held us together when Scottie was out. Dennis is what held us together when Scottie was out.
97 00:06:07,325 00:06:10,995 He had to really focus to make us as competitive as we were. He had to really focus to make us as competitive as we were.
98 00:06:11,954 00:06:15,666 We adapt and we adapt quickly, and we're off and running. We adapt and we adapt quickly, and we're off and running.
99 00:06:15,750 00:06:18,920 [commentator 3] Rodman, battling for the rebound, saving it in! [commentator 3] Rodman, battling for the rebound, saving it in!
100 00:06:19,003 00:06:21,047 And Kerr snatches it out of the air, And Kerr snatches it out of the air,
101 00:06:21,589 00:06:22,589 and drills it! and drills it!
102 00:06:22,632 00:06:25,176 Now that's... that's winning basketball. Now that's... that's winning basketball.
103 00:06:25,259 00:06:30,056 Those are the plays that Dennis Rodman does to make his team great. Those are the plays that Dennis Rodman does to make his team great.
104 00:06:30,681 00:06:31,682 Awesome. Awesome.
105 00:06:44,404 00:06:47,073 [Rodman] As a black kid living in the projects, [Rodman] As a black kid living in the projects,
106 00:06:47,156 00:06:49,992 life was really fucking nuts, right, it was like... Whoa! life was really fucking nuts, right, it was like... Whoa!
107 00:06:52,703 00:06:54,747 My mother drove buses for the school. My mother drove buses for the school.
108 00:06:55,248 00:06:58,835 She got sick and tired of my ass not providing, not doing anything. She got sick and tired of my ass not providing, not doing anything.
109 00:06:58,918 00:07:02,046 And, I think... What was I, 18? And, I think... What was I, 18?
110 00:07:02,588 00:07:04,382 She just got tired of me and kicked me out She just got tired of me and kicked me out
111 00:07:04,465 00:07:06,384 so I lived in the street for two years. so I lived in the street for two years.
112 00:07:08,177 00:07:10,972 I was just trying to bounce around, see where I could stay at. I was just trying to bounce around, see where I could stay at.
113 00:07:11,931 00:07:14,851 People's backyards, my friends' backyards, stuff like that. People's backyards, my friends' backyards, stuff like that.
114 00:07:14,934 00:07:16,978 I could've been a drug dealer, I could've been dead, I could've been a drug dealer, I could've been dead,
115 00:07:17,061 00:07:19,188 I could've been... Shit, anything at that time. I could've been... Shit, anything at that time.
116 00:07:20,106 00:07:23,317 I don't know why I never did that drug stuff, but I never did. I don't know why I never did that drug stuff, but I never did.
117 00:07:23,860 00:07:27,280 I'd just sit there and watch 'em do it, watch 'em sell it, stuff like that, I'd just sit there and watch 'em do it, watch 'em sell it, stuff like that,
118 00:07:27,363 00:07:29,782 and I walk out the door every day, go to the gym. and I walk out the door every day, go to the gym.
119 00:07:29,866 00:07:32,160 Come back, do the same thing every day. Come back, do the same thing every day.
120 00:07:32,243 00:07:35,663 I was just fortunate to start picking up a basketball and start playing. I was just fortunate to start picking up a basketball and start playing.
121 00:07:37,748 00:07:39,542 And I just got lucky that And I just got lucky that
122 00:07:39,625 00:07:42,336 some guy from some college said, "Dennis, you wanna play for us?" some guy from some college said, "Dennis, you wanna play for us?"
123 00:07:42,420 00:07:43,796 I was like, "All right, great." I was like, "All right, great."
124 00:07:45,798 00:07:49,677 I went balls-out every time. I don't know. I just know how to go full speed. I went balls-out every time. I don't know. I just know how to go full speed.
125 00:07:50,720 00:07:55,391 So, when I was in college, I averaged, like, 27 points, 14, 15, rebounds a game. So, when I was in college, I averaged, like, 27 points, 14, 15, rebounds a game.
126 00:07:58,478 00:08:00,354 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
127 00:08:00,438 00:08:05,568 I'm trying to get through school, try to get a degree and things, I'm trying to get through school, try to get a degree and things,
128 00:08:06,110 00:08:11,240 and whatever's... When I finish school, I just hope for the best. and whatever's... When I finish school, I just hope for the best.
129 00:08:11,324 00:08:14,452 We had two other picks in the second round that I'll give you quickly. We had two other picks in the second round that I'll give you quickly.
130 00:08:14,535 00:08:16,913 Greg Dreiling went to Indiana, the big center, Greg Dreiling went to Indiana, the big center,
131 00:08:16,996 00:08:20,500 and Dennis Rodman, the youngster from Southeast Oklahoma State, and Dennis Rodman, the youngster from Southeast Oklahoma State,
132 00:08:20,583 00:08:24,045 went to Detroit as the 27th pick in the 1986 draft. went to Detroit as the 27th pick in the 1986 draft.
133 00:08:25,129 00:08:30,426 [Thomas] When he first came to Detroit, he was just an innocent, beautiful person, [Thomas] When he first came to Detroit, he was just an innocent, beautiful person,
134 00:08:30,510 00:08:33,888 but a little naive about, like, the world. but a little naive about, like, the world.
135 00:08:34,722 00:08:37,016 [Salley] He was simple at that time. [Salley] He was simple at that time.
136 00:08:37,517 00:08:39,727 He would say, "Man, you don't know life He would say, "Man, you don't know life
137 00:08:39,810 00:08:42,688 till you can just go out, get away from everybody, till you can just go out, get away from everybody,
138 00:08:43,397 00:08:47,443 make a fire, cook food outside, and just look at the stars." make a fire, cook food outside, and just look at the stars."
139 00:08:49,529 00:08:51,729 [Rodman] I think the second or third year in the league, [Rodman] I think the second or third year in the league,
140 00:08:51,781 00:08:55,868 I actually figured out what I can do best: rebound and play defense. I actually figured out what I can do best: rebound and play defense.
141 00:08:55,952 00:08:57,995 [commentator] Barkley, with the drive... [commentator] Barkley, with the drive...
142 00:08:58,079 00:09:00,748 [Rodman] I just started learning how to perfect that. [Rodman] I just started learning how to perfect that.
143 00:09:00,831 00:09:02,959 [commentator] Holy cow! How about that? [commentator] Holy cow! How about that?
144 00:09:03,042 00:09:05,044 I used to have my friends late at night, I used to have my friends late at night,
145 00:09:05,127 00:09:08,881 shit, 3:00, 4:00 in the morning, go to the gym. I said, "Shoot the ball." shit, 3:00, 4:00 in the morning, go to the gym. I said, "Shoot the ball."
146 00:09:08,965 00:09:11,509 I said, "Shoot over here, shoot over there..." I said, "Shoot over here, shoot over there..."
147 00:09:11,592 00:09:13,886 I'd just sit there, react, react. I'd just sit there, react, react.
148 00:09:14,887 00:09:18,391 [Rodman] I practiced a lot about the angle of the ball and trajectory of it. [Rodman] I practiced a lot about the angle of the ball and trajectory of it.
149 00:09:18,474 00:09:22,395 You got a Larry Bird, it's gonna spin. You got a Magic, it maybe spin. You got a Larry Bird, it's gonna spin. You got a Magic, it maybe spin.
150 00:09:22,478 00:09:25,314 When Michael shoot over here, I position myself right there. When Michael shoot over here, I position myself right there.
151 00:09:25,398 00:09:27,984 Now if it hit the rim, it's... Boom. Now if it hit the rim, it's... Boom.
152 00:09:28,067 00:09:30,444 Click and go back this way. It going here and here. Click and go back this way. It going here and here.
153 00:09:30,528 00:09:31,696 Click, it going that way. Click, it going that way.
154 00:09:31,779 00:09:32,822 Boom! That way. Boom! That way.
155 00:09:32,905 00:09:34,657 Click here and go this way. Click here and go this way.
156 00:09:34,740 00:09:38,119 So, basically, I started learning how to put myself in a position to get the ball. So, basically, I started learning how to put myself in a position to get the ball.
157 00:09:38,202 00:09:40,663 [commentator] Rebound, kept alive by Rodman, and... [commentator] Rebound, kept alive by Rodman, and...
158 00:09:41,622 00:09:44,750 I was pretty much like that rash on players, I was pretty much like that rash on players,
159 00:09:44,834 00:09:47,003 that rash you can't never get rid of, right? that rash you can't never get rid of, right?
160 00:09:50,840 00:09:55,177 Dennis Rodman was the fuck-up person. He just fucks everything up. Dennis Rodman was the fuck-up person. He just fucks everything up.
161 00:09:55,970 00:10:00,057 He's a pest. Shutting down whoever he wanted to. He's a pest. Shutting down whoever he wanted to.
162 00:10:00,683 00:10:02,059 It was always a challenge. It was always a challenge.
163 00:10:02,768 00:10:07,023 He was one of them players that had changed the game just by his presence. He was one of them players that had changed the game just by his presence.
164 00:10:08,065 00:10:11,694 [Daly] You talk about coach's dreams, there aren't many players like him. [Daly] You talk about coach's dreams, there aren't many players like him.
165 00:10:11,777 00:10:15,573 Couldn't be a player I'm more proud of and proud to be associated with. Couldn't be a player I'm more proud of and proud to be associated with.
166 00:10:15,656 00:10:18,159 He had a great relationship with Chuck Daly. He had a great relationship with Chuck Daly.
167 00:10:18,242 00:10:21,078 Chuck was the only person that understood him. Chuck was the only person that understood him.
168 00:10:21,162 00:10:22,455 Let's say your guy stops side, Let's say your guy stops side,
169 00:10:22,538 00:10:25,082 you're in here, you're defense, lock him here. you're in here, you're defense, lock him here.
170 00:10:25,166 00:10:27,918 [Malone] I remember one time, I was working with Dennis, [Malone] I remember one time, I was working with Dennis,
171 00:10:28,002 00:10:31,714 and then Chuck called me over, and he said, "Just leave him alone. and then Chuck called me over, and he said, "Just leave him alone.
172 00:10:32,715 00:10:34,800 You don't put a saddle on a mustang." You don't put a saddle on a mustang."
173 00:10:38,929 00:10:41,932 [interviewer] Were you considered a troublemaker on the court in college? [interviewer] Were you considered a troublemaker on the court in college?
174 00:10:42,016 00:10:44,977 - Did you have that reputation? - No. I built that in Detroit. - Did you have that reputation? - No. I built that in Detroit.
175 00:10:45,061 00:10:46,646 There's no disputing that Detroit There's no disputing that Detroit
176 00:10:46,729 00:10:49,398 is one of the most physical teams in the NBA, is one of the most physical teams in the NBA,
177 00:10:49,482 00:10:51,359 and it's all part of their strategy and it's all part of their strategy
178 00:10:51,442 00:10:53,778 to take their opponents out of their rhythm. to take their opponents out of their rhythm.
179 00:10:54,737 00:10:57,740 [Thorn] The Detroit Pistons were the epitome [Thorn] The Detroit Pistons were the epitome
180 00:10:57,823 00:11:04,205 of the physical, tough, hard-nosed brand of half-court basketball. of the physical, tough, hard-nosed brand of half-court basketball.
181 00:11:04,288 00:11:11,253 They had big strong guys in Laimbeer, Mahorn, Rodman, Salley. They had big strong guys in Laimbeer, Mahorn, Rodman, Salley.
182 00:11:11,337 00:11:15,841 They had a great defensive player in Joe Dumars, they had Isiah Thomas. They had a great defensive player in Joe Dumars, they had Isiah Thomas.
183 00:11:16,425 00:11:19,637 [interviewer] Were they threatening the safety of the league's top players? [interviewer] Were they threatening the safety of the league's top players?
184 00:11:20,930 00:11:22,848 I don't think they cared. [chuckles] I don't think they cared. [chuckles]
185 00:11:24,850 00:11:28,437 [commentator] Wilkins gets knocked to the deck, and wants Mahorn. [commentator] Wilkins gets knocked to the deck, and wants Mahorn.
186 00:11:29,855 00:11:31,232 - Rivers... - [whistle blows] - Rivers... - [whistle blows]
187 00:11:31,315 00:11:34,276 Pushed hard. I mean, he was driven to the floor. Pushed hard. I mean, he was driven to the floor.
188 00:11:35,027 00:11:38,364 [Rodman] At that time, in the NBA, you could do anything you want. [Rodman] At that time, in the NBA, you could do anything you want.
189 00:11:39,407 00:11:42,451 [scoffs] Compared to today, 30 years ago, shit. [scoffs] Compared to today, 30 years ago, shit.
190 00:11:42,535 00:11:46,330 Back then, you could just sit there and just literally beat people up Back then, you could just sit there and just literally beat people up
191 00:11:46,914 00:11:49,667 and get away with it without a technical or anything. and get away with it without a technical or anything.
192 00:11:49,750 00:11:54,296 [commentator] Dennis Rodman and Lohaus, under the basket, going at it. [commentator] Dennis Rodman and Lohaus, under the basket, going at it.
193 00:11:55,923 00:11:58,634 We're like a hockey team, everybody wanna see us fight. [laughs] We're like a hockey team, everybody wanna see us fight. [laughs]
194 00:11:58,718 00:12:01,303 [Salley] Rick Mahorn taught me how to elbow and said, [Salley] Rick Mahorn taught me how to elbow and said,
195 00:12:01,387 00:12:03,305 "If you hit somebody, do it on purpose. "If you hit somebody, do it on purpose.
196 00:12:03,806 00:12:07,351 Don't get a cheap foul. That's stupid. If you're gonna hit him, hit him." Don't get a cheap foul. That's stupid. If you're gonna hit him, hit him."
197 00:12:07,435 00:12:10,438 They acquired the moniker "The Bad Boys." They acquired the moniker "The Bad Boys."
198 00:12:11,105 00:12:16,277 They played a tough, intimidating style, and a lot of people didn't like it They played a tough, intimidating style, and a lot of people didn't like it
199 00:12:16,360 00:12:19,196 'cause it was getting away from the beauty of basketball. 'cause it was getting away from the beauty of basketball.
200 00:12:19,280 00:12:21,824 [commentator] Bird and Laimbeer go at it. [commentator] Bird and Laimbeer go at it.
201 00:12:21,907 00:12:25,244 We weren't "the league's favorite." We weren't the... We weren't "the league's favorite." We weren't the...
202 00:12:25,327 00:12:29,915 We weren't the pretty team that had got invited to the Lakers' and Celtics' party. We weren't the pretty team that had got invited to the Lakers' and Celtics' party.
203 00:12:29,999 00:12:34,170 When we showed up, it was almost like we were crashing their party. When we showed up, it was almost like we were crashing their party.
204 00:12:34,253 00:12:37,214 This is the way the game of basketball was played at the time. This is the way the game of basketball was played at the time.
205 00:12:37,298 00:12:40,301 These guys on the other side may not be as talented, These guys on the other side may not be as talented,
206 00:12:40,384 00:12:42,136 but when you do come into Detroit, but when you do come into Detroit,
207 00:12:42,928 00:12:44,513 you gonna get your ass whooped. you gonna get your ass whooped.
208 00:12:44,597 00:12:47,975 [commentator] We got a fight. Laimbeer and Daugherty going after it. [commentator] We got a fight. Laimbeer and Daugherty going after it.
209 00:12:48,851 00:12:51,228 We just basically... "Okay, we're the bad boys." We just basically... "Okay, we're the bad boys."
210 00:12:51,312 00:12:54,315 We started feeding into it. Next thing you know, we starting to win. We started feeding into it. Next thing you know, we starting to win.
211 00:12:59,320 00:13:01,614 [Kremer] The Pistons had overtaken the Celtics [Kremer] The Pistons had overtaken the Celtics
212 00:13:01,697 00:13:03,908 as kings of the Eastern Conference, as kings of the Eastern Conference,
213 00:13:03,991 00:13:08,370 and they're rolling along just as the Bulls are really starting to emerge. and they're rolling along just as the Bulls are really starting to emerge.
214 00:13:10,247 00:13:13,709 [Paxson] In '86-'87, when Jerry Krause made a head coaching hire, [Paxson] In '86-'87, when Jerry Krause made a head coaching hire,
215 00:13:14,210 00:13:17,463 I think we all felt that we needed something different. I think we all felt that we needed something different.
216 00:13:18,172 00:13:20,007 This speaks to Jerry's strengths. This speaks to Jerry's strengths.
217 00:13:20,508 00:13:23,093 He identified a young Doug Collins, He identified a young Doug Collins,
218 00:13:23,177 00:13:28,390 who he felt would bring an energy and enthusiasm that a young team needed. who he felt would bring an energy and enthusiasm that a young team needed.
219 00:13:28,474 00:13:31,018 This is a game that we need to have high energy. This is a game that we need to have high energy.
220 00:13:31,101 00:13:34,355 We have a high energy level. We win tonight, we got tomorrow off, We have a high energy level. We win tonight, we got tomorrow off,
221 00:13:34,438 00:13:37,209 so you can spend all night in LA doing whatever you want. I don't care. so you can spend all night in LA doing whatever you want. I don't care.
222 00:13:37,233 00:13:40,194 - Otherwise, we got practice tomorrow... - [laughing] - Otherwise, we got practice tomorrow... - [laughing]
223 00:13:40,277 00:13:42,822 [Jordan] Dougie was a breath of fresh air. [Jordan] Dougie was a breath of fresh air.
224 00:13:42,905 00:13:45,658 He believed in everything that I believed in. He wanted to win. He believed in everything that I believed in. He wanted to win.
225 00:13:45,741 00:13:48,077 He was an easy guy, great guy to play for. He was an easy guy, great guy to play for.
226 00:13:48,160 00:13:53,123 Welcome, sports fans, this is the Chicago sports... casino. Welcome, sports fans, this is the Chicago sports... casino.
227 00:13:53,207 00:13:55,292 - [man 1] He cheats. - [man 2] Man! Take that! - [man 1] He cheats. - [man 2] Man! Take that!
228 00:13:55,376 00:13:58,212 - Wins again. - [man 2] Bet, bet, bet. - Wins again. - [man 2] Bet, bet, bet.
229 00:13:58,295 00:14:01,674 - We know why he win, he got kings. - [man 3] Kings, that's right. - We know why he win, he got kings. - [man 3] Kings, that's right.
230 00:14:01,757 00:14:05,761 [Paxson] Doug's energy on the sideline was unparalleled. [Paxson] Doug's energy on the sideline was unparalleled.
231 00:14:06,345 00:14:10,266 He'd walk off the floor of a game, and he would be drenched in sweat. He'd walk off the floor of a game, and he would be drenched in sweat.
232 00:14:10,349 00:14:12,852 I mean, he just... He looked like he played. I mean, he just... He looked like he played.
233 00:14:12,935 00:14:16,188 Let's make sure, above all, we get some rest. Let's make sure, above all, we get some rest.
234 00:14:16,272 00:14:19,149 Detroit, we're one and [bleep] four against those [bleep]. Detroit, we're one and [bleep] four against those [bleep].
235 00:14:19,233 00:14:23,988 And it's on national TV, and I want to beat those guys on Sunday. Let's go. And it's on national TV, and I want to beat those guys on Sunday. Let's go.
236 00:14:24,071 00:14:25,656 - [clapping] - [player] Yeah! - [clapping] - [player] Yeah!
237 00:14:26,657 00:14:28,242 [Collins] The year before I came, [Collins] The year before I came,
238 00:14:28,325 00:14:31,996 the Bulls had been eliminated by Boston in the playoffs. the Bulls had been eliminated by Boston in the playoffs.
239 00:14:32,538 00:14:33,956 [commentator] The ball game's over. [commentator] The ball game's over.
240 00:14:34,039 00:14:36,250 The series goes to Boston in three straight. The series goes to Boston in three straight.
241 00:14:36,333 00:14:39,336 The final score, 122-104, Celtics. The final score, 122-104, Celtics.
242 00:14:39,420 00:14:41,630 [Collins] The roster was a little thin at that time. [Collins] The roster was a little thin at that time.
243 00:14:41,714 00:14:45,217 I'd seen Michael play, but I really never had spent any time around him. I'd seen Michael play, but I really never had spent any time around him.
244 00:14:45,301 00:14:47,428 [commentator] Number 34, Charles Oakley. [commentator] Number 34, Charles Oakley.
245 00:14:47,511 00:14:50,031 [Collins] Our second-best player at the time was Charles Oakley. [Collins] Our second-best player at the time was Charles Oakley.
246 00:14:50,055 00:14:52,725 He was a vicious rebounder, brought a lot of toughness. He was a vicious rebounder, brought a lot of toughness.
247 00:14:52,808 00:14:55,603 John Paxson was on that team, Dave Corzine. John Paxson was on that team, Dave Corzine.
248 00:14:56,312 00:14:58,814 [commentator] And their head coach, Doug Collins. [commentator] And their head coach, Doug Collins.
249 00:14:58,898 00:15:02,735 [Collins] The first game I coached, we went to Madison Square Garden. [Collins] The first game I coached, we went to Madison Square Garden.
250 00:15:02,818 00:15:06,196 And the Knicks had Patrick Ewing, Bill Cartwright, they were loaded. And the Knicks had Patrick Ewing, Bill Cartwright, they were loaded.
251 00:15:06,280 00:15:07,615 Hubie Brown, Hall of Fame coach. Hubie Brown, Hall of Fame coach.
252 00:15:08,282 00:15:10,951 Two minutes to go in the game. The game was tied. Two minutes to go in the game. The game was tied.
253 00:15:11,035 00:15:12,411 I'm soaking wet with sweat. I'm soaking wet with sweat.
254 00:15:12,494 00:15:15,289 I've chewed my gum to a powder, it's around my mouth. I've chewed my gum to a powder, it's around my mouth.
255 00:15:15,372 00:15:18,918 And I saw this hand come out with a cup of water, And I saw this hand come out with a cup of water,
256 00:15:19,001 00:15:21,629 and it was Michael Jordan. He looked at me and said, and it was Michael Jordan. He looked at me and said,
257 00:15:21,712 00:15:24,840 "Coach, take a drink of that water, clean that stuff off your mouth. "Coach, take a drink of that water, clean that stuff off your mouth.
258 00:15:24,924 00:15:26,675 I'm not gonna let you lose your first game." I'm not gonna let you lose your first game."
259 00:15:27,301 00:15:28,741 [commentator 1] Here's Jordan again. [commentator 1] Here's Jordan again.
260 00:15:30,220 00:15:31,221 All alone... All alone...
261 00:15:32,139 00:15:33,766 Turns, off the glass. Turns, off the glass.
262 00:15:33,849 00:15:36,018 Forty-two points for Michael Jordan. Forty-two points for Michael Jordan.
263 00:15:36,727 00:15:40,105 Ten seconds on the shot clock, Rory Sparrow working on it. Ten seconds on the shot clock, Rory Sparrow working on it.
264 00:15:40,189 00:15:42,358 Jordan, to the basket, scores. Jordan, to the basket, scores.
265 00:15:42,441 00:15:45,986 He went out and scored the last ten points of the game, ended up with 50. He went out and scored the last ten points of the game, ended up with 50.
266 00:15:46,070 00:15:50,532 [commentator 2] Michael Jordan setting a new Madison Square Garden record [commentator 2] Michael Jordan setting a new Madison Square Garden record
267 00:15:50,616 00:15:53,285 for an opposing player tonight, scoring 50 points. for an opposing player tonight, scoring 50 points.
268 00:15:53,369 00:15:56,789 [commentator 1] The Chicago Bulls make Doug Collins a winner his first time out, [commentator 1] The Chicago Bulls make Doug Collins a winner his first time out,
269 00:15:56,872 00:15:59,291 and it is a happy Doug Collins on the far side. and it is a happy Doug Collins on the far side.
270 00:15:59,375 00:16:01,835 I remember being on the plane, going back to Chicago, I said, I remember being on the plane, going back to Chicago, I said,
271 00:16:01,919 00:16:05,631 "Wow. This guy is something like I've never seen before." "Wow. This guy is something like I've never seen before."
272 00:16:05,714 00:16:08,008 Doug and I, we're like this, you know. Doug and I, we're like this, you know.
273 00:16:08,592 00:16:10,052 He designed the offense He designed the offense
274 00:16:10,886 00:16:14,181 to support the way I play the game and the way he wanted to coach. to support the way I play the game and the way he wanted to coach.
275 00:16:14,264 00:16:17,101 - [whistle blows] - It's all right, Michael. It's all right. - [whistle blows] - It's all right, Michael. It's all right.
276 00:16:17,184 00:16:19,019 I think he loved my competitiveness. I think he loved my competitiveness.
277 00:16:19,103 00:16:23,232 He understands that the greatest respect you can give a great player He understands that the greatest respect you can give a great player
278 00:16:23,315 00:16:25,275 is to coach him and coach him hard. is to coach him and coach him hard.
279 00:16:25,359 00:16:26,819 [imperceptible] [imperceptible]
280 00:16:29,613 00:16:31,156 [Collins] Michael's big thing was, [Collins] Michael's big thing was,
281 00:16:31,240 00:16:33,367 "Stack the practice against me and I'll still win." "Stack the practice against me and I'll still win."
282 00:16:33,450 00:16:38,038 Doug always tried to maintain a competitive advantage in practice. Doug always tried to maintain a competitive advantage in practice.
283 00:16:42,960 00:16:44,712 I'd be with the starting five. I'd be with the starting five.
284 00:16:45,963 00:16:47,256 Then next thing you know, Then next thing you know,
285 00:16:47,339 00:16:49,925 while I was winning, he'd put me with the second team. while I was winning, he'd put me with the second team.
286 00:16:50,009 00:16:52,929 One day at practice, he got upset. He thought I was cheating on the score. One day at practice, he got upset. He thought I was cheating on the score.
287 00:16:53,595 00:16:59,601 And, uh, he got upset and left practice, and, uh, we came back the next day, And, uh, he got upset and left practice, and, uh, we came back the next day,
288 00:16:59,685 00:17:02,604 they were asking, "You talked to Michael since practice yesterday?" they were asking, "You talked to Michael since practice yesterday?"
289 00:17:02,688 00:17:06,025 I said, "I haven't had a chance. We will." Then Michael came out. I said, "I haven't had a chance. We will." Then Michael came out.
290 00:17:06,108 00:17:08,193 I reached over, grabbed him, kissed him on the cheek. I reached over, grabbed him, kissed him on the cheek.
291 00:17:08,277 00:17:09,862 I said, "I love him. He loves me." I said, "I love him. He loves me."
292 00:17:09,945 00:17:12,698 - Would you come here so we can kiss on TV? - [Jordan] Here we go. - Would you come here so we can kiss on TV? - [Jordan] Here we go.
293 00:17:13,198 00:17:16,535 - Would you tell them everything is fine? - [interviewer] Aww. - Would you tell them everything is fine? - [interviewer] Aww.
294 00:17:16,618 00:17:18,680 - We've kissed and made up now. - [reporters laughing] - We've kissed and made up now. - [reporters laughing]
295 00:17:18,704 00:17:24,543 [Collins] I coached him for three years, from the '86-'87 season through '88-'89. [Collins] I coached him for three years, from the '86-'87 season through '88-'89.
296 00:17:25,794 00:17:29,089 When I was coaching him, he was the MVP of the league. When I was coaching him, he was the MVP of the league.
297 00:17:29,173 00:17:31,133 [commentator] ...in deep, scoops it in! [commentator] ...in deep, scoops it in!
298 00:17:31,842 00:17:34,011 [Collins] He was the MVP of the All-Star Game. [Collins] He was the MVP of the All-Star Game.
299 00:17:37,681 00:17:39,600 He won the slam dunk competition... He won the slam dunk competition...
300 00:17:41,185 00:17:42,978 and he was the Defensive Player of the Year. and he was the Defensive Player of the Year.
301 00:17:43,062 00:17:44,622 [commentator] ...pass stolen by Jordan. [commentator] ...pass stolen by Jordan.
302 00:17:44,688 00:17:47,941 Michael Jordan takes it coast-to-coast. Whoo! Michael Jordan takes it coast-to-coast. Whoo!
303 00:17:48,734 00:17:50,110 That's greatness. That's greatness.
304 00:17:50,194 00:17:52,821 You know, I mean, he was now the best player. You know, I mean, he was now the best player.
305 00:17:52,905 00:17:54,948 ["Partyman" playing] ["Partyman" playing]
306 00:18:01,538 00:18:03,415 [commentators speaking indistinctly] [commentators speaking indistinctly]
307 00:18:17,888 00:18:21,475 ♪ All hail the new king in town ♪ ♪ All hail the new king in town ♪
308 00:18:26,063 00:18:29,608 ♪ Young and old, gather round ♪ ♪ Young and old, gather round ♪
309 00:18:34,113 00:18:37,658 ♪ Black and white, red and green ♪ ♪ Black and white, red and green ♪
310 00:18:41,620 00:18:45,791 ♪ The funkiest man you've ever seen ♪ ♪ The funkiest man you've ever seen ♪
311 00:18:48,001 00:18:50,129 ♪ Tell you what his name is ♪ ♪ Tell you what his name is ♪
312 00:18:50,504 00:18:54,049 ♪ Partyman, partyman ♪ ♪ Partyman, partyman ♪
313 00:18:54,675 00:18:57,845 ♪ Rock a party like nobody can ♪ ♪ Rock a party like nobody can ♪
314 00:18:57,928 00:19:01,807 ♪ Rules and regulations No place in his nation ♪ ♪ Rules and regulations No place in his nation ♪
315 00:19:02,808 00:19:06,311 ♪ Partyman, partyman ♪ ♪ Partyman, partyman ♪
316 00:19:06,395 00:19:08,272 ♪ Party people Say it now ♪ ♪ Party people Say it now ♪
317 00:19:08,355 00:19:12,401 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
318 00:19:14,570 00:19:16,530 ♪ Somebody holla if you want to party ♪ ♪ Somebody holla if you want to party ♪
319 00:19:24,621 00:19:26,790 ♪ Young and old, gather around ♪ ♪ Young and old, gather around ♪
320 00:19:26,874 00:19:28,792 ♪ Everybody hail the new king in town ♪ ♪ Everybody hail the new king in town ♪
321 00:19:38,177 00:19:40,929 Under Doug Collins, the Bulls were rapidly improving, Under Doug Collins, the Bulls were rapidly improving,
322 00:19:41,013 00:19:45,434 and suddenly becoming a real contender in the Eastern Conference. and suddenly becoming a real contender in the Eastern Conference.
323 00:19:45,517 00:19:50,772 Detroit was certainly, at the time, the team to beat in the east, Detroit was certainly, at the time, the team to beat in the east,
324 00:19:50,856 00:19:52,691 but who was going to be their challenger? but who was going to be their challenger?
325 00:19:52,774 00:19:55,736 Who was going to really rise up and challenge Detroit? Who was going to really rise up and challenge Detroit?
326 00:19:55,819 00:19:57,696 It was gonna be one of two teams. It was gonna be one of two teams.
327 00:19:57,779 00:20:00,115 The Bulls were in ascension, obviously, at that time, The Bulls were in ascension, obviously, at that time,
328 00:20:00,199 00:20:03,660 with their young core of Jordan and Pippen and Horace Grant. with their young core of Jordan and Pippen and Horace Grant.
329 00:20:03,744 00:20:07,789 But Cleveland was, at the time, a great team. But Cleveland was, at the time, a great team.
330 00:20:07,873 00:20:10,751 So these are the two rising teams in the east. So these are the two rising teams in the east.
331 00:20:12,836 00:20:16,048 [Wilbon] The Bulls play Cleveland in '89 in a best-three-of-five. [Wilbon] The Bulls play Cleveland in '89 in a best-three-of-five.
332 00:20:16,757 00:20:18,967 Most basketball observers believed Most basketball observers believed
333 00:20:19,051 00:20:20,594 Cleveland was better. Cleveland was better.
334 00:20:20,677 00:20:22,304 Nobody has picked the Bulls. Nobody has picked the Bulls.
335 00:20:22,387 00:20:25,682 The media picked Cavs. Everybody's picked, nationally, the Cavs. The media picked Cavs. Everybody's picked, nationally, the Cavs.
336 00:20:25,766 00:20:30,020 Back then, we played teams six times in our division. Back then, we played teams six times in our division.
337 00:20:30,979 00:20:33,982 They beat us six times, 6-0. They beat us six times, 6-0.
338 00:20:34,691 00:20:36,860 So now in our mind, we got nothing to lose. So now in our mind, we got nothing to lose.
339 00:20:38,528 00:20:41,823 [Smith] Bulls win the first game, Cleveland wins the second in Cleveland. [Smith] Bulls win the first game, Cleveland wins the second in Cleveland.
340 00:20:41,907 00:20:43,787 [commentator] Tied 1-1 with Cleveland's victory. [commentator] Tied 1-1 with Cleveland's victory.
341 00:20:43,825 00:20:45,994 [Smith] Back to Chicago, Bulls win game three. [Smith] Back to Chicago, Bulls win game three.
342 00:20:46,078 00:20:48,372 [commentator] Chicago wins it, 101-94. [commentator] Chicago wins it, 101-94.
343 00:20:48,956 00:20:53,001 Game four, Jordan's got a free throw at the end of regulation, misses. Game four, Jordan's got a free throw at the end of regulation, misses.
344 00:20:53,085 00:20:54,211 [crowd groans] [crowd groans]
345 00:20:54,294 00:20:57,923 [commentator] Missed it. The Cavaliers have kept their hopes alive. [commentator] Missed it. The Cavaliers have kept their hopes alive.
346 00:20:58,006 00:20:59,883 We go back to Cleveland for game five. We go back to Cleveland for game five.
347 00:20:59,967 00:21:03,804 [commentator] And welcome to the Richfield Coliseum for game five [commentator] And welcome to the Richfield Coliseum for game five
348 00:21:03,887 00:21:06,640 between the Chicago Bulls and the Cleveland Cavaliers. between the Chicago Bulls and the Cleveland Cavaliers.
349 00:21:07,557 00:21:09,810 Up to that time, the franchise, Up to that time, the franchise,
350 00:21:09,893 00:21:12,104 the history of the Bulls was blowing leads. the history of the Bulls was blowing leads.
351 00:21:12,187 00:21:14,856 And you're like, "Oh, my God, this is gonna happen again. And you're like, "Oh, my God, this is gonna happen again.
352 00:21:14,940 00:21:18,235 They're gonna blow this. They're gonna lose the series to Cleveland." They're gonna blow this. They're gonna lose the series to Cleveland."
353 00:21:18,318 00:21:21,822 So, game's about to start, and there was two other beat writers. So, game's about to start, and there was two other beat writers.
354 00:21:22,531 00:21:25,033 Beat writer from the Sun-Times, Lacy Banks Beat writer from the Sun-Times, Lacy Banks
355 00:21:25,117 00:21:27,452 and Kent McDill from the Herald and me. and Kent McDill from the Herald and me.
356 00:21:28,370 00:21:30,872 And Lacy's picked the Cavs to sweep in three. And Lacy's picked the Cavs to sweep in three.
357 00:21:30,956 00:21:34,710 Kent's picked the Cavs to win in four, and I've picked the Cavs to win in five. Kent's picked the Cavs to win in four, and I've picked the Cavs to win in five.
358 00:21:35,294 00:21:37,504 So, Michael... Game's just about to start, So, Michael... Game's just about to start,
359 00:21:37,587 00:21:41,258 Michael walks over to Lacy, and points to him and says, "We took care of you." Michael walks over to Lacy, and points to him and says, "We took care of you."
360 00:21:41,341 00:21:43,844 He looks at Kent and says, "We took care of you." He looks at Kent and says, "We took care of you."
361 00:21:43,927 00:21:46,513 And he looks at me, "And we take care of you today." And he looks at me, "And we take care of you today."
362 00:21:48,515 00:21:50,892 [commentator] Mark Price and Ron Harper in the backcourt [commentator] Mark Price and Ron Harper in the backcourt
363 00:21:50,976 00:21:53,020 and we're underway. Cleveland has it. and we're underway. Cleveland has it.
364 00:21:54,229 00:21:56,481 [Jordan] We went back and forth the whole time. [Jordan] We went back and forth the whole time.
365 00:21:56,565 00:21:59,359 [commentator] Jordan against Harper, great turnaround. [commentator] Jordan against Harper, great turnaround.
366 00:21:59,443 00:22:00,986 [Jordan] It was a very tough game. [Jordan] It was a very tough game.
367 00:22:01,069 00:22:02,654 [commentator] This is the playoffs, [commentator] This is the playoffs,
368 00:22:02,738 00:22:06,199 and here we have two great teams right here, guys that lay it out. and here we have two great teams right here, guys that lay it out.
369 00:22:06,283 00:22:07,326 It was a constant battle. It was a constant battle.
370 00:22:20,964 00:22:23,604 [commentator 1] We have had drama in the final minutes of the game. [commentator 1] We have had drama in the final minutes of the game.
371 00:22:23,675 00:22:26,136 - Eleven seconds to go. - [commentator 2] In the middle... - Eleven seconds to go. - [commentator 2] In the middle...
372 00:22:26,219 00:22:27,471 [commentator 1] Jordan has it, [commentator 1] Jordan has it,
373 00:22:27,554 00:22:31,266 and Jordan puts up a jumper and hits, with six seconds to go. and Jordan puts up a jumper and hits, with six seconds to go.
374 00:22:31,350 00:22:35,354 Jordan hits the basket and now has 42 points in the game, Jordan hits the basket and now has 42 points in the game,
375 00:22:35,437 00:22:38,065 and the Cavaliers have called a timeout. and the Cavaliers have called a timeout.
376 00:22:38,648 00:22:41,902 Ehlo will inbound. He gets it in to Nance, gets the ball back, Ehlo will inbound. He gets it in to Nance, gets the ball back,
377 00:22:41,985 00:22:45,072 drives to the hoop, lays it in with three seconds to go. drives to the hoop, lays it in with three seconds to go.
378 00:22:45,155 00:22:46,448 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
379 00:22:50,911 00:22:53,246 [commentator] Here's our story, here at Richfield Coliseum. [commentator] Here's our story, here at Richfield Coliseum.
380 00:22:53,330 00:22:57,626 One of these teams will advance. It has been a thrilling game. One of these teams will advance. It has been a thrilling game.
381 00:22:57,709 00:23:02,547 The Bulls have three seconds to try a shot and try to win the game. The Bulls have three seconds to try a shot and try to win the game.
382 00:23:03,256 00:23:05,384 Everybody knew where the ball was gonna go. Everybody knew where the ball was gonna go.
383 00:23:06,885 00:23:10,430 [Jordan] They had Craig Ehlo on me at the time which, [Jordan] They had Craig Ehlo on me at the time which,
384 00:23:11,390 00:23:12,766 honestly, was a mistake, honestly, was a mistake,
385 00:23:13,433 00:23:16,436 because the guy that played me better was Ron Harper. because the guy that played me better was Ron Harper.
386 00:23:16,520 00:23:18,772 [Harper] We up by one. [Harper] We up by one.
387 00:23:18,855 00:23:21,400 I said, "Coach, I got MJ. I said, "Coach, I got MJ.
388 00:23:22,651 00:23:23,944 I got MJ." I got MJ."
389 00:23:24,569 00:23:28,698 So the coach tells me, "I'm gonna put Ehlo on MJ." So the coach tells me, "I'm gonna put Ehlo on MJ."
390 00:23:29,324 00:23:30,409 And I'm, like... And I'm, like...
391 00:23:31,952 00:23:34,621 "Yeah, okay, whatever, fuck this bullshit." "Yeah, okay, whatever, fuck this bullshit."
392 00:23:35,747 00:23:39,709 [crowd chanting] Defense! Defense! [crowd chanting] Defense! Defense!
393 00:23:40,335 00:23:43,922 We drew a play where I was coming to the ball. We drew a play where I was coming to the ball.
394 00:23:45,173 00:23:48,135 But I only had time to get one dribble and get a jump shot off. But I only had time to get one dribble and get a jump shot off.
395 00:23:49,094 00:23:51,346 We were gonna live and die with that scenario. We were gonna live and die with that scenario.
396 00:23:52,180 00:23:54,558 So I was doing everything I can to get the ball. So I was doing everything I can to get the ball.
397 00:23:55,308 00:23:57,436 [commentator] The inbounds pass comes in to Jordan. [commentator] The inbounds pass comes in to Jordan.
398 00:23:57,519 00:23:59,896 Here's Michael at the foul line, a shot on Ehlo... Here's Michael at the foul line, a shot on Ehlo...
399 00:23:59,980 00:24:03,066 Good! The Bulls win, they win it! Good! The Bulls win, they win it!
400 00:24:07,863 00:24:13,160 And Chicago has knocked off the Cavs, 101-100. And Chicago has knocked off the Cavs, 101-100.
401 00:24:13,243 00:24:15,620 [Collins] Michael! Michael, you stuck it, baby! [Collins] Michael! Michael, you stuck it, baby!
402 00:24:16,496 00:24:17,873 Michael, you stuck it, baby. Michael, you stuck it, baby.
403 00:24:17,956 00:24:19,374 - You stuck it! - Yeah! - You stuck it! - Yeah!
404 00:24:21,126 00:24:23,837 I feel very vindicated from when we started the playoff I feel very vindicated from when we started the playoff
405 00:24:23,920 00:24:26,131 with the dim look that everybody was giving us... with the dim look that everybody was giving us...
406 00:24:26,214 00:24:28,758 Even I asked you in the locker room, I asked everybody, Even I asked you in the locker room, I asked everybody,
407 00:24:28,842 00:24:32,345 "What was the feeling back in Chicago? Did they write us off yet?" "What was the feeling back in Chicago? Did they write us off yet?"
408 00:24:32,429 00:24:34,181 You said, "Some of 'em have written us off." You said, "Some of 'em have written us off."
409 00:24:34,264 00:24:35,849 I said, "Tell those guys to stay home." I said, "Tell those guys to stay home."
410 00:24:36,433 00:24:39,153 [Wilbon] Somebody had written or said, "The Bulls were gonna go home, [Wilbon] Somebody had written or said, "The Bulls were gonna go home,
411 00:24:39,644 00:24:40,896 send them home." send them home."
412 00:24:40,979 00:24:44,065 So when he hits the shot, "Go home, motherfuckers, go home." So when he hits the shot, "Go home, motherfuckers, go home."
413 00:24:44,149 00:24:48,195 Get the fuck out of here, go fucking anywhere, but you out of here. Get the fuck out of here, go fucking anywhere, but you out of here.
414 00:24:48,278 00:24:50,906 Whoever is not with us, all you fuckers, go to hell. Whoever is not with us, all you fuckers, go to hell.
415 00:24:50,989 00:24:54,284 [commentator] Jordan beat them at the buzzer with a jump shot. [commentator] Jordan beat them at the buzzer with a jump shot.
416 00:24:54,367 00:24:56,828 It was so dramatic and it was typical It was so dramatic and it was typical
417 00:24:56,912 00:25:00,248 of what we'd see Michael do the rest of his career in big moments. of what we'd see Michael do the rest of his career in big moments.
418 00:25:00,332 00:25:05,003 That shot enabled the Bulls to start growing That shot enabled the Bulls to start growing
419 00:25:05,086 00:25:07,714 and believing that something special was on the horizon. and believing that something special was on the horizon.
420 00:25:07,797 00:25:10,926 We finally got over the hump of losers' mentality. We finally got over the hump of losers' mentality.
421 00:25:11,009 00:25:13,470 We were starting to become a winning franchise, We were starting to become a winning franchise,
422 00:25:14,054 00:25:16,473 and, you know, the sky was the limit. and, you know, the sky was the limit.
423 00:25:17,974 00:25:22,437 [TV anchor] How high can this man fly? Michael Jordan is soaring [TV anchor] How high can this man fly? Michael Jordan is soaring
424 00:25:22,521 00:25:24,814 and the Chicago Bulls are going right with him. and the Chicago Bulls are going right with him.
425 00:25:25,440 00:25:28,235 But now Superman faces his toughest test. But now Superman faces his toughest test.
426 00:25:28,818 00:25:33,198 And we bring you the first game of the Eastern Conference Championship And we bring you the first game of the Eastern Conference Championship
427 00:25:33,281 00:25:38,495 between the underdog Chicago Bulls and the favored Detroit Pistons. between the underdog Chicago Bulls and the favored Detroit Pistons.
428 00:25:39,162 00:25:43,124 The NBA was invested in making Michael Jordan its star. The NBA was invested in making Michael Jordan its star.
429 00:25:43,875 00:25:45,126 The Pistons were... The Pistons were...
430 00:25:46,127 00:25:47,837 slowing that down. slowing that down.
431 00:25:47,921 00:25:53,718 We knew how important to the NBA it was to get Michael to go to the next level. We knew how important to the NBA it was to get Michael to go to the next level.
432 00:25:53,802 00:25:59,015 The blueprint was Larry, Magic, now Michael. The blueprint was Larry, Magic, now Michael.
433 00:26:00,350 00:26:03,228 And all of a sudden, there was this little team in Detroit And all of a sudden, there was this little team in Detroit
434 00:26:03,311 00:26:05,480 who just messed up the whole story. who just messed up the whole story.
435 00:26:06,064 00:26:07,065 We loved that. We loved that.
436 00:26:07,148 00:26:09,067 [interviewer] How legitimate was the hatred [interviewer] How legitimate was the hatred
437 00:26:09,150 00:26:11,278 between those Bulls teams and those Pistons? between those Bulls teams and those Pistons?
438 00:26:11,361 00:26:12,362 Oh, I hated 'em. Oh, I hated 'em.
439 00:26:13,446 00:26:15,490 Yeah, the hate carries even to this day. Yeah, the hate carries even to this day.
440 00:26:16,700 00:26:20,704 They made it personal. They physically beat the shit out of us. They made it personal. They physically beat the shit out of us.
441 00:26:20,787 00:26:22,998 [Collins] When we played the Pistons in that series, [Collins] When we played the Pistons in that series,
442 00:26:23,081 00:26:26,751 it was... it was arm-to-arm physical combat. it was... it was arm-to-arm physical combat.
443 00:26:28,545 00:26:30,964 But we never backed down. We fought them. But we never backed down. We fought them.
444 00:26:31,590 00:26:34,509 [commentator] The Bulls have won the first game. [commentator] The Bulls have won the first game.
445 00:26:34,593 00:26:36,219 [Collins] So we got game one. [Collins] So we got game one.
446 00:26:36,303 00:26:37,554 They won game two. They won game two.
447 00:26:38,263 00:26:39,973 We came back to Chicago, We came back to Chicago,
448 00:26:40,056 00:26:42,475 Michael had one of the most incredible games. Michael had one of the most incredible games.
449 00:26:43,143 00:26:46,521 [commentator 1] Jordan. Steal, he kept it in bounds, here it is again. [commentator 1] Jordan. Steal, he kept it in bounds, here it is again.
450 00:26:47,897 00:26:49,816 Oh! Yes! Oh! Yes!
451 00:26:51,234 00:26:55,530 You'll see him elevate, do a 360 and just toss it up. You'll see him elevate, do a 360 and just toss it up.
452 00:26:55,614 00:26:57,574 [commentator 2] Pippen, finds Jordan. [commentator 2] Pippen, finds Jordan.
453 00:26:57,657 00:26:59,367 Rodman is on him, one-on-one. Rodman is on him, one-on-one.
454 00:27:00,118 00:27:01,578 Five seconds to go. Five seconds to go.
455 00:27:01,661 00:27:03,788 Jordan, off the glass. Yes! Jordan, off the glass. Yes!
456 00:27:03,872 00:27:05,457 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
457 00:27:05,540 00:27:07,626 [commentator 2] It's over. Chicago wins. [commentator 2] It's over. Chicago wins.
458 00:27:10,879 00:27:12,759 [reporter] What was your call on that last play? [reporter] What was your call on that last play?
459 00:27:13,757 00:27:17,510 That was, "Get the ball to Michael, everybody get the fuck out of the way..." That was, "Get the ball to Michael, everybody get the fuck out of the way..."
460 00:27:17,594 00:27:19,754 - [all laughing] - [Collins] "...and go to the basket." - [all laughing] - [Collins] "...and go to the basket."
461 00:27:22,641 00:27:24,267 Jordan pretty much took over the game, Jordan pretty much took over the game,
462 00:27:24,351 00:27:26,770 made all the big field goals down the stretch, made all the big field goals down the stretch,
463 00:27:26,853 00:27:29,564 showed like the... Showed the superstar he really is. showed like the... Showed the superstar he really is.
464 00:27:30,440 00:27:32,400 [reporter] Chuck, how do you bounce back? [reporter] Chuck, how do you bounce back?
465 00:27:34,235 00:27:36,905 [Thomas] We knew Michael Jordan's the greatest player, [Thomas] We knew Michael Jordan's the greatest player,
466 00:27:37,739 00:27:41,534 and we tried to use it as a rallying cry to come together. and we tried to use it as a rallying cry to come together.
467 00:27:42,619 00:27:47,082 We had to do everything from a physicality standpoint to stop him. We had to do everything from a physicality standpoint to stop him.
468 00:27:47,582 00:27:51,336 Detroit had "Jordan Rules" just for Michael. Detroit had "Jordan Rules" just for Michael.
469 00:27:52,003 00:27:53,755 I don't know how he came out of it alive. I don't know how he came out of it alive.
470 00:27:54,422 00:27:56,424 [announcer] The infamous "Jordan Rules," [announcer] The infamous "Jordan Rules,"
471 00:27:56,508 00:27:59,761 the Pistons' defensive tactics designed to contain their namesake, the Pistons' defensive tactics designed to contain their namesake,
472 00:27:59,844 00:28:02,389 are enforced whenever Michael is on the floor. are enforced whenever Michael is on the floor.
473 00:28:02,472 00:28:04,683 When he was in the air, we had no shot. When he was in the air, we had no shot.
474 00:28:04,766 00:28:09,062 Uh, but when everything was on the floor, you can hold your own. Uh, but when everything was on the floor, you can hold your own.
475 00:28:09,145 00:28:11,272 You have to stop him before he takes flight You have to stop him before he takes flight
476 00:28:11,356 00:28:13,233 'cause, you know, he's not human. 'cause, you know, he's not human.
477 00:28:13,942 00:28:15,422 [commentator] Michael Jordan. Fouled. [commentator] Michael Jordan. Fouled.
478 00:28:16,319 00:28:19,239 - Jordan. Jordan again, pushed. - [whistle blowing] - Jordan. Jordan again, pushed. - [whistle blowing]
479 00:28:19,322 00:28:22,409 [commentator] Here again, the implementation of the "Jordan Rules." [commentator] Here again, the implementation of the "Jordan Rules."
480 00:28:22,492 00:28:23,493 [buzzer sounds] [buzzer sounds]
481 00:28:24,452 00:28:27,080 [commentator] The Pistons will even it up at two apiece, [commentator] The Pistons will even it up at two apiece,
482 00:28:27,163 00:28:30,208 and the story of this game, the Detroit defense. and the story of this game, the Detroit defense.
483 00:28:30,959 00:28:33,044 [Malone] This is what the "Jordan Rules" were: [Malone] This is what the "Jordan Rules" were:
484 00:28:33,545 00:28:37,215 on the wings, we're going to push him to the elbow, on the wings, we're going to push him to the elbow,
485 00:28:37,799 00:28:40,260 and we're not gonna let him drive to the baseline. and we're not gonna let him drive to the baseline.
486 00:28:41,636 00:28:45,974 Number two: when he's on top, we're going to influence him to his left. Number two: when he's on top, we're going to influence him to his left.
487 00:28:47,225 00:28:51,062 When he got the ball in the low post, we were going to trap him from the top. When he got the ball in the low post, we were going to trap him from the top.
488 00:28:51,146 00:28:53,648 That's the "Jordan Rules," and it was that simple. That's the "Jordan Rules," and it was that simple.
489 00:28:54,399 00:28:56,680 [interviewer] What happens when he does make the baseline? [interviewer] What happens when he does make the baseline?
490 00:28:57,527 00:29:00,905 That's when Laimbeer and Mahorn would go up and knock him down to the ground. That's when Laimbeer and Mahorn would go up and knock him down to the ground.
491 00:29:03,074 00:29:05,243 As soon as he steps in the paint... As soon as he steps in the paint...
492 00:29:06,286 00:29:07,286 hit him. hit him.
493 00:29:07,996 00:29:10,457 Chuck Daly said, "This is a 'Jordan Rule:' Chuck Daly said, "This is a 'Jordan Rule:'
494 00:29:10,540 00:29:12,959 every time he go to the basket, put him on the ground." every time he go to the basket, put him on the ground."
495 00:29:13,668 00:29:15,420 He comes to the basket, he ain't gonna dunk. He comes to the basket, he ain't gonna dunk.
496 00:29:15,503 00:29:17,338 We gonna hit you. You gonna be on the ground. We gonna hit you. You gonna be on the ground.
497 00:29:17,422 00:29:18,822 [commentator] Jordan is still down. [commentator] Jordan is still down.
498 00:29:18,882 00:29:20,776 [Rodman] We are trying to physically hurt Michael. [Rodman] We are trying to physically hurt Michael.
499 00:29:20,800 00:29:24,095 [commentator] Jordan had no place to go. Clobbered. [commentator] Jordan had no place to go. Clobbered.
500 00:29:25,263 00:29:26,890 [Salley] How bad do you want it? [Salley] How bad do you want it?
501 00:29:27,557 00:29:30,810 Are you willing to be injured to score a basket? Are you willing to be injured to score a basket?
502 00:29:30,894 00:29:34,230 [commentator] The Pistons want to make Jordan pay whenever he gets in the paint. [commentator] The Pistons want to make Jordan pay whenever he gets in the paint.
503 00:29:34,314 00:29:37,984 [Salley] The referees back then didn't look to see if Michael was hurt or not. [Salley] The referees back then didn't look to see if Michael was hurt or not.
504 00:29:38,067 00:29:41,946 It wasn't, "Make sure that the savior is okay," it wasn't... It wasn't, "Make sure that the savior is okay," it wasn't...
505 00:29:42,030 00:29:43,406 That wasn't the way it is. That wasn't the way it is.
506 00:29:43,490 00:29:44,741 [buzzer sounds] [buzzer sounds]
507 00:29:44,824 00:29:49,788 [commentator] It is over at the Palace. The Pistons have beaten the Bulls. [commentator] It is over at the Palace. The Pistons have beaten the Bulls.
508 00:29:51,164 00:29:54,709 I could compare Michael Jordan to nobody because for him to survive that I could compare Michael Jordan to nobody because for him to survive that
509 00:29:54,793 00:29:59,297 and still maintain that greatness, I mean, it's very unparalleled. and still maintain that greatness, I mean, it's very unparalleled.
510 00:29:59,380 00:30:02,217 We were not ready for the Detroit Pistons We were not ready for the Detroit Pistons
511 00:30:02,300 00:30:03,593 at that point in time. at that point in time.
512 00:30:03,676 00:30:07,806 They were more physical than us. Uh, they were the aggressors. They were more physical than us. Uh, they were the aggressors.
513 00:30:07,889 00:30:09,432 Detroit had our number. Detroit had our number.
514 00:30:09,516 00:30:13,394 [commentator] The Detroit Pistons, by virtue of a 103-94 victory, [commentator] The Detroit Pistons, by virtue of a 103-94 victory,
515 00:30:13,478 00:30:16,523 have eliminated the Bulls and indeed are headed for the finals. have eliminated the Bulls and indeed are headed for the finals.
516 00:30:16,606 00:30:19,484 [TV anchor] Unfortunately for the Bulls, the story was the same. [TV anchor] Unfortunately for the Bulls, the story was the same.
517 00:30:19,567 00:30:21,528 "Control Michael and the win is yours." "Control Michael and the win is yours."
518 00:30:25,490 00:30:27,075 [Jordan] We did not have, as a unit, [Jordan] We did not have, as a unit,
519 00:30:27,158 00:30:30,411 the confidence that we felt like we needed to beat Detroit. the confidence that we felt like we needed to beat Detroit.
520 00:30:31,287 00:30:32,447 [commentator] The game's over [commentator] The game's over
521 00:30:32,497 00:30:34,377 and the Pistons have won the world championship. and the Pistons have won the world championship.
522 00:30:36,751 00:30:38,711 [announcer] They're going down in the record books [announcer] They're going down in the record books
523 00:30:38,753 00:30:42,257 as one of the greatest defensive teams ever in the history of this league. as one of the greatest defensive teams ever in the history of this league.
524 00:30:43,007 00:30:46,094 It seems that, in sports, there's always that one team... It seems that, in sports, there's always that one team...
525 00:30:46,678 00:30:48,346 that you have to overcome, that you have to overcome,
526 00:30:48,930 00:30:52,559 and you almost build your team to beat them, and you almost build your team to beat them,
527 00:30:52,642 00:30:57,480 and unequivocally, for the Bulls, it was the Pistons. and unequivocally, for the Bulls, it was the Pistons.
528 00:31:07,866 00:31:09,784 A friend of Dennis Rodman was worried enough A friend of Dennis Rodman was worried enough
529 00:31:09,868 00:31:14,289 about the Piston's whereabouts overnight that he called 911 to initiate a search. about the Piston's whereabouts overnight that he called 911 to initiate a search.
530 00:31:14,372 00:31:18,209 Police found Rodman at the Palace early this morning in Auburn Hills. Police found Rodman at the Palace early this morning in Auburn Hills.
531 00:31:18,293 00:31:21,421 Rodman had taken his legally registered rifle with him. Rodman had taken his legally registered rifle with him.
532 00:31:21,504 00:31:23,965 His mood characterized as despondent. His mood characterized as despondent.
533 00:31:24,966 00:31:27,719 [reporter] What happened? Why are people concerned? [reporter] What happened? Why are people concerned?
534 00:31:27,802 00:31:29,137 You get the right answer. You get the right answer.
535 00:31:30,680 00:31:31,680 I'm here. I'm here.
536 00:31:32,307 00:31:34,187 [reporter 1] That's Dennis at 8:00 this morning, [reporter 1] That's Dennis at 8:00 this morning,
537 00:31:34,267 00:31:36,477 trying to assure reporters that he's fine, trying to assure reporters that he's fine,
538 00:31:36,561 00:31:38,980 that he's not on the verge of an emotional breakdown, that he's not on the verge of an emotional breakdown,
539 00:31:39,063 00:31:42,233 and that he did nothing out of the ordinary, at least for him. and that he did nothing out of the ordinary, at least for him.
540 00:31:42,317 00:31:47,238 [reporter 2] The report that we have is he took a gun, had a gun in his truck. [reporter 2] The report that we have is he took a gun, had a gun in his truck.
541 00:31:47,322 00:31:49,991 Uh, have you heard that, can you confirm that? Uh, have you heard that, can you confirm that?
542 00:31:50,074 00:31:52,785 I've heard that, yeah. That's all I know. I've heard that, yeah. That's all I know.
543 00:31:52,869 00:31:56,289 I had a gun in my hand, like, in the front seat. I had a gun in my hand, like, in the front seat.
544 00:31:57,081 00:32:01,169 Luckily, I fell asleep, and the cops came and got me. Luckily, I fell asleep, and the cops came and got me.
545 00:32:03,171 00:32:06,758 I was at a lost place at the time. Just a lost place. I was at a lost place at the time. Just a lost place.
546 00:32:09,969 00:32:14,933 That time in my life, I think that was both a wake-up call and a rescue call. That time in my life, I think that was both a wake-up call and a rescue call.
547 00:32:15,016 00:32:19,562 Last night may have been the last time we see Dennis Rodman in a Pistons uniform. Last night may have been the last time we see Dennis Rodman in a Pistons uniform.
548 00:32:19,646 00:32:22,982 [commentator] Rodman used to be a Piston. [imitates buzzer] He's out of there. [commentator] Rodman used to be a Piston. [imitates buzzer] He's out of there.
549 00:32:23,566 00:32:27,028 [reporter] The Worm is now a Spur, traded for Sean Elliott and David Wood. [reporter] The Worm is now a Spur, traded for Sean Elliott and David Wood.
550 00:32:27,904 00:32:29,781 [Salley] Dennis goes to San Antonio, [Salley] Dennis goes to San Antonio,
551 00:32:29,864 00:32:33,076 and then Demolition Man comes out, and he changes his hair color. and then Demolition Man comes out, and he changes his hair color.
552 00:32:33,159 00:32:34,786 That's me, that's Dennis Rodman. That's me, that's Dennis Rodman.
553 00:32:36,245 00:32:37,580 I'm not trying to please anybody. I'm not trying to please anybody.
554 00:32:38,164 00:32:39,707 And Madonna goes, "He's cute." And Madonna goes, "He's cute."
555 00:32:40,208 00:32:41,960 And they started seeing each other. And they started seeing each other.
556 00:32:42,627 00:32:44,712 Madonna explained to him, Madonna explained to him,
557 00:32:44,796 00:32:48,341 "You have to establish who you want to be in this life. "You have to establish who you want to be in this life.
558 00:32:48,424 00:32:51,094 Don't be who they tell you you should be." Don't be who they tell you you should be."
559 00:32:52,220 00:32:57,058 He started realizing he can push to any boundary, He started realizing he can push to any boundary,
560 00:32:57,141 00:32:59,185 and that's a freedom. and that's a freedom.
561 00:32:59,268 00:33:03,106 People that write the things in the paper don't really know Dennis Rodman. People that write the things in the paper don't really know Dennis Rodman.
562 00:33:03,189 00:33:06,776 They don't even talk to me so they have to write something that's crazy and stupid They don't even talk to me so they have to write something that's crazy and stupid
563 00:33:06,859 00:33:08,528 to make me look like an asshole. to make me look like an asshole.
564 00:33:08,611 00:33:12,031 I just wanna do something that makes me feel like I'm free, I just wanna do something that makes me feel like I'm free,
565 00:33:12,115 00:33:14,075 that I can go do anything I want to do. that I can go do anything I want to do.
566 00:33:14,575 00:33:16,744 What does it mean? The outfits, the tattoos, What does it mean? The outfits, the tattoos,
567 00:33:16,828 00:33:21,749 the sunglasses, the velvet hat, the rings, the... stuff. the sunglasses, the velvet hat, the rings, the... stuff.
568 00:33:22,417 00:33:23,417 Why? Why?
569 00:33:23,459 00:33:25,712 I like doing what I'm doing. I like doing what I'm doing.
570 00:33:25,795 00:33:29,007 It makes me happy. It makes me feel like I'm a ten-year-old kid. It makes me happy. It makes me feel like I'm a ten-year-old kid.
571 00:33:29,507 00:33:32,468 Can I ask you to do one thing for me before we leave this interview? Can I ask you to do one thing for me before we leave this interview?
572 00:33:32,969 00:33:35,388 - Take off the hat. - Why does everybody say that to me? - Take off the hat. - Why does everybody say that to me?
573 00:33:35,471 00:33:38,057 - Let me see what color it is. - It's no color. - Let me see what color it is. - It's no color.
574 00:33:38,141 00:33:40,977 I've been pretty much lazy and just, "Hell with it." I've been pretty much lazy and just, "Hell with it."
575 00:33:41,060 00:33:42,770 I'm thinking about shaving it off. I'm thinking about shaving it off.
576 00:33:45,481 00:33:47,650 [Krause] I wanted no part of Dennis. [Krause] I wanted no part of Dennis.
577 00:33:47,734 00:33:49,193 Didn't want anything to do with him. Didn't want anything to do with him.
578 00:33:49,277 00:33:52,572 And, uh, Jimmy Stack, who was my assistant at that point, And, uh, Jimmy Stack, who was my assistant at that point,
579 00:33:52,655 00:33:54,490 came to me, said, "Let's talk about Rodman." came to me, said, "Let's talk about Rodman."
580 00:33:54,574 00:33:56,409 I said "No, I don't wanna talk about Rodman." I said "No, I don't wanna talk about Rodman."
581 00:33:56,909 00:33:59,328 And he said, "Jerry, I've done some homework." And he said, "Jerry, I've done some homework."
582 00:33:59,412 00:34:03,499 I really felt like I had a different perspective on Dennis. I really felt like I had a different perspective on Dennis.
583 00:34:03,583 00:34:06,794 [commentator] Why, Dennis Rodman, who already has a T... [commentator] Why, Dennis Rodman, who already has a T...
584 00:34:06,878 00:34:09,964 - [whistle blows] - ...gets another one, and out he goes. - [whistle blows] - ...gets another one, and out he goes.
585 00:34:10,548 00:34:13,885 Dennis was acting out in San Antonio. Dennis was acting out in San Antonio.
586 00:34:15,845 00:34:19,974 But I felt like the structure we had, with Michael and Scottie and the leadership, But I felt like the structure we had, with Michael and Scottie and the leadership,
587 00:34:20,558 00:34:23,811 Dennis would respect those guys and play and thrive. Dennis would respect those guys and play and thrive.
588 00:34:24,312 00:34:26,689 [Krause] If we had not had Michael and Scottie [Krause] If we had not had Michael and Scottie
589 00:34:26,773 00:34:29,692 and the people in that locker room, we would've never taken Dennis. and the people in that locker room, we would've never taken Dennis.
590 00:34:29,776 00:34:32,695 If Phil hadn't been the coach, I don't think we would've taken him. If Phil hadn't been the coach, I don't think we would've taken him.
591 00:34:32,779 00:34:34,864 Because I knew that Phil could handle him. Because I knew that Phil could handle him.
592 00:34:35,865 00:34:38,493 [interviewer] Do you remember your first meeting with Rodman? [interviewer] Do you remember your first meeting with Rodman?
593 00:34:38,576 00:34:39,827 Oh, it was awful. Oh, it was awful.
594 00:34:41,245 00:34:43,247 I walk into Jerry Krause's house. I walk into Jerry Krause's house.
595 00:34:44,248 00:34:48,127 He's sitting on the couch. He's got a pool boy hat over his eyes, He's sitting on the couch. He's got a pool boy hat over his eyes,
596 00:34:48,211 00:34:50,755 he's got the rings in his nose and his mouth, he's got the rings in his nose and his mouth,
597 00:34:50,838 00:34:54,300 and he doesn't stand up to meet me. So I said, "Stand up, Dennis. and he doesn't stand up to meet me. So I said, "Stand up, Dennis.
598 00:34:54,383 00:34:57,512 Take your hat off, shake hands. Let's go outside and talk." Take your hat off, shake hands. Let's go outside and talk."
599 00:34:57,595 00:35:00,515 We had to break bread then, at the house. We had to break bread then, at the house.
600 00:35:00,598 00:35:02,725 He said "Dennis, you wanna play for the Bulls?" He said "Dennis, you wanna play for the Bulls?"
601 00:35:02,809 00:35:05,770 I said, "I don't care. Whatever. What's up?" I said, "I don't care. Whatever. What's up?"
602 00:35:05,853 00:35:07,814 Last week, the Bulls announced the acquisition Last week, the Bulls announced the acquisition
603 00:35:07,897 00:35:09,524 of a player many people consider of a player many people consider
604 00:35:09,607 00:35:12,193 the most controversial basketball star in the NBA. the most controversial basketball star in the NBA.
605 00:35:12,902 00:35:17,156 He is Dennis Rodman, one of the best rebounders in NBA history. He is Dennis Rodman, one of the best rebounders in NBA history.
606 00:35:17,240 00:35:20,701 Is it one of the shrewdest moves the Bulls have ever made or one of the dumbest? Is it one of the shrewdest moves the Bulls have ever made or one of the dumbest?
607 00:35:20,785 00:35:22,995 There was this visceral reaction to Rodman. There was this visceral reaction to Rodman.
608 00:35:23,079 00:35:26,624 Rodman was at the center of the most hated team Rodman was at the center of the most hated team
609 00:35:26,707 00:35:28,042 in the history of Chicago. in the history of Chicago.
610 00:35:28,126 00:35:32,547 We all thought, "Well, there's no way they would ever accept him. We all thought, "Well, there's no way they would ever accept him.
611 00:35:32,630 00:35:35,258 Even if they signed him, they will never accept him." Even if they signed him, they will never accept him."
612 00:35:35,341 00:35:37,260 You know, and to their credit, You know, and to their credit,
613 00:35:37,343 00:35:40,263 Jordan and Pippen, especially, said, "He can help us win. Jordan and Pippen, especially, said, "He can help us win.
614 00:35:40,346 00:35:42,348 We know how tough he is." We know how tough he is."
615 00:35:42,431 00:35:44,892 ["The Maestro" playing] ["The Maestro" playing]
616 00:35:47,520 00:35:50,332 [interviewer] How did Dennis fit in with the team when he first arrived? [interviewer] How did Dennis fit in with the team when he first arrived?
617 00:35:50,356 00:35:51,983 Like a hand in a glove. Like a hand in a glove.
618 00:35:52,984 00:35:55,903 [Kerr] Dennis was a dominant defensive player, [Kerr] Dennis was a dominant defensive player,
619 00:35:56,487 00:35:59,198 and what Dennis brought was exactly what we needed, and what Dennis brought was exactly what we needed,
620 00:35:59,282 00:36:02,535 somebody who gave us that edge on the front line. somebody who gave us that edge on the front line.
621 00:36:02,618 00:36:04,912 ♪ Who is the man comin' down your block? ♪ ♪ Who is the man comin' down your block? ♪
622 00:36:05,329 00:36:08,332 ♪ It's me you see With the funk in my walk ♪ ♪ It's me you see With the funk in my walk ♪
623 00:36:08,416 00:36:10,751 ♪ I'm doin' just what I like to ♪ ♪ I'm doin' just what I like to ♪
624 00:36:10,835 00:36:13,254 ♪ Today is my day yeah And I'mma get nice too ♪ ♪ Today is my day yeah And I'mma get nice too ♪
625 00:36:13,337 00:36:16,132 If he could do his job, then we're going to love him. If he could do his job, then we're going to love him.
626 00:36:16,215 00:36:19,677 Play basketball and win. That's it. Play basketball and win. That's it.
627 00:36:20,386 00:36:21,762 That's what he did. That's what he did.
628 00:36:21,846 00:36:23,723 ♪ I am the maestro ♪ ♪ I am the maestro ♪
629 00:36:24,348 00:36:27,602 ♪ Yeah, you motherfuckers, I'm all that ♪ ♪ Yeah, you motherfuckers, I'm all that ♪
630 00:36:28,019 00:36:29,379 ♪ I see you lookin' at me sayin' ♪ ♪ I see you lookin' at me sayin' ♪
631 00:36:29,437 00:36:32,857 ♪ How can he be so skinny And live so phat? ♪ ♪ How can he be so skinny And live so phat? ♪
632 00:36:32,940 00:36:34,150 ♪ You know why... ♪ ♪ You know why... ♪
633 00:36:34,233 00:36:36,277 Dennis was one of the smartest guys I played with. Dennis was one of the smartest guys I played with.
634 00:36:36,777 00:36:40,364 He understood defensive strategy, with all the rotations. He understood defensive strategy, with all the rotations.
635 00:36:40,448 00:36:42,950 He had no limits in terms of what he does. He had no limits in terms of what he does.
636 00:36:43,034 00:36:45,745 He could guard multiple players. He could guard multiple players.
637 00:36:46,329 00:36:49,916 He studied each guy. He knew players' strengths and weaknesses. He studied each guy. He knew players' strengths and weaknesses.
638 00:36:50,833 00:36:52,627 [commentator] Rodman with the interception... [commentator] Rodman with the interception...
639 00:36:52,710 00:36:55,379 [Pippen] Dennis knows how to play his role well. [Pippen] Dennis knows how to play his role well.
640 00:36:55,463 00:36:59,800 He has a great understanding of what it takes to win. He has a great understanding of what it takes to win.
641 00:37:00,885 00:37:03,054 He's a huge reason for our success. He's a huge reason for our success.
642 00:37:03,554 00:37:06,098 ♪ Who is the man? Who is the man? ♪ ♪ Who is the man? Who is the man? ♪
643 00:37:07,683 00:37:10,186 ♪ The maestro Give it up ♪ ♪ The maestro Give it up ♪
644 00:37:10,645 00:37:11,687 ♪ Who is the man? ♪ ♪ Who is the man? ♪
645 00:37:12,355 00:37:14,690 ♪ Three cheers for the maestro ♪ ♪ Three cheers for the maestro ♪
646 00:37:43,844 00:37:45,721 [Jordan] You know I was just kidding. [Jordan] You know I was just kidding.
647 00:37:45,805 00:37:48,808 I know. You gave me a good article the other day. I know. You gave me a good article the other day.
648 00:37:48,891 00:37:50,611 - I appreciate that. - [reporter] Which one? - I appreciate that. - [reporter] Which one?
649 00:37:50,643 00:37:52,770 You said, "Quit worrying about what he's gonna do You said, "Quit worrying about what he's gonna do
650 00:37:52,853 00:37:55,564 and live for the present. Don't worry about next year. and live for the present. Don't worry about next year.
651 00:37:55,648 00:37:58,401 Leave him alone. Quit asking questions about what's happening." Leave him alone. Quit asking questions about what's happening."
652 00:37:58,484 00:37:59,724 [reporter] I'm sick of it, too. [reporter] I'm sick of it, too.
653 00:37:59,777 00:38:02,780 I'm tired of it, totally tired of it. I'mma stop talking to y'all. I'm tired of it, totally tired of it. I'mma stop talking to y'all.
654 00:38:02,863 00:38:04,198 Just say, "Next question." Just say, "Next question."
655 00:38:04,282 00:38:06,951 Y'all guys don't do it anymore, but it's on the road. Y'all guys don't do it anymore, but it's on the road.
656 00:38:07,034 00:38:08,595 - That's what kills me. - [reporter] Yeah. - That's what kills me. - [reporter] Yeah.
657 00:38:08,619 00:38:11,789 [reporter 2] It's gotta be a little draining, every city, like, [reporter 2] It's gotta be a little draining, every city, like,
658 00:38:11,872 00:38:14,625 "Is it Michael's last game?" Everything that's going on with that. "Is it Michael's last game?" Everything that's going on with that.
659 00:38:14,709 00:38:17,837 Is it wearing on you a little? Does it wear on you little bit? Is it wearing on you a little? Does it wear on you little bit?
660 00:38:17,920 00:38:20,047 Yeah, it gets old. Questions don't change Yeah, it gets old. Questions don't change
661 00:38:20,131 00:38:22,341 - and the answer is the same. - [reporters laugh] - and the answer is the same. - [reporters laugh]
662 00:38:22,425 00:38:25,136 Wouldn't it be nice if Bulls fans could enjoy this title run Wouldn't it be nice if Bulls fans could enjoy this title run
663 00:38:25,219 00:38:27,779 without worrying that it could be the final running of the Bulls? without worrying that it could be the final running of the Bulls?
664 00:38:27,847 00:38:30,099 More questions in that vein for Michael Jordan today. More questions in that vein for Michael Jordan today.
665 00:38:30,182 00:38:32,184 [reporter 3] You said that this is your last year. [reporter 3] You said that this is your last year.
666 00:38:32,268 00:38:34,037 [reporter 4] Is this your last outing in the Bay Area? [reporter 4] Is this your last outing in the Bay Area?
667 00:38:34,061 00:38:35,330 [reporter 5] Think it's your last season? [reporter 5] Think it's your last season?
668 00:38:35,354 00:38:37,274 [reporter 6] Is it Michael's final run as a Bull? [reporter 6] Is it Michael's final run as a Bull?
669 00:38:37,315 00:38:39,084 [reporter 7] Think it's your last time in Atlanta? [reporter 7] Think it's your last time in Atlanta?
670 00:38:39,108 00:38:41,610 - [reporter 8] Should he retire? - It's his decision. - [reporter 8] Should he retire? - It's his decision.
671 00:38:41,694 00:38:44,447 [reporter 9] We're required to ask every game if you're gonna retire. [reporter 9] We're required to ask every game if you're gonna retire.
672 00:38:44,530 00:38:45,865 You're gonna get the same answer. You're gonna get the same answer.
673 00:38:45,948 00:38:49,785 Although I may have the same answers, I practice them quite a bit. Although I may have the same answers, I practice them quite a bit.
674 00:38:49,869 00:38:51,120 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
675 00:38:51,203 00:38:52,872 You never know. You never know. You never know. You never know.
676 00:38:52,955 00:38:54,081 Beats me. Beats me.
677 00:38:54,165 00:38:57,293 This may be the last time, the last dance, whatever, but... This may be the last time, the last dance, whatever, but...
678 00:38:57,376 00:38:59,712 I'm not focusing on that, I'm focusing on the moment. I'm not focusing on that, I'm focusing on the moment.
679 00:38:59,795 00:39:02,548 Enjoy the moment, you know, enjoy the game. Enjoy the moment, you know, enjoy the game.
680 00:39:02,631 00:39:05,468 And whenever... Whatever happens for this organization, And whenever... Whatever happens for this organization,
681 00:39:05,551 00:39:06,969 at the end of the season, happens. at the end of the season, happens.
682 00:39:07,053 00:39:08,322 What happens after that happens. What happens after that happens.
683 00:39:08,346 00:39:13,476 I think people, well, the media basically, are trying to redirect, trying to change I think people, well, the media basically, are trying to redirect, trying to change
684 00:39:13,559 00:39:17,521 some kind of little emphasis within the question and see if my answers change, some kind of little emphasis within the question and see if my answers change,
685 00:39:17,605 00:39:18,939 and my response won't change. and my response won't change.
686 00:39:19,023 00:39:20,983 So what about next year, Michael? [laughs] So what about next year, Michael? [laughs]
687 00:39:21,067 00:39:22,276 [all laugh] [all laugh]
688 00:39:23,194 00:39:26,864 You guys are... I love you guys. You're great. Excuse me. You guys are... I love you guys. You're great. Excuse me.
689 00:39:39,919 00:39:42,213 Okay, everybody, let's go meet the Sniff Brothers. Okay, everybody, let's go meet the Sniff Brothers.
690 00:39:42,296 00:39:44,298 [indistinct chatter] [indistinct chatter]
691 00:39:46,592 00:39:48,844 These are the Sniff Brothers over here. These are the Sniff Brothers over here.
692 00:39:48,928 00:39:52,306 First, there's Gus Sniff, CT Sniff, First, there's Gus Sniff, CT Sniff,
693 00:39:52,390 00:39:55,059 Calvin Sniff, Tom Sniff. Calvin Sniff, Tom Sniff.
694 00:39:55,142 00:39:57,102 - John Michael Sniff. - That's John Michael Sniff. - John Michael Sniff. - That's John Michael Sniff.
695 00:39:57,144 00:39:57,978 [man] George Sniff. [man] George Sniff.
696 00:39:58,062 00:40:00,689 [Ligmanowski] The Sniff Brothers. They take care of Michael. [Ligmanowski] The Sniff Brothers. They take care of Michael.
697 00:40:00,773 00:40:04,568 Sniff Brothers are Michael's security guys. Sniff Brothers are Michael's security guys.
698 00:40:05,152 00:40:07,363 A sniff brother is actually a jock sniffer. A sniff brother is actually a jock sniffer.
699 00:40:07,446 00:40:10,616 [laughs] So we used to say everybody was sniffing Michael's jocks. [laughs] So we used to say everybody was sniffing Michael's jocks.
700 00:40:10,699 00:40:12,284 All those guys would always be around. All those guys would always be around.
701 00:40:12,368 00:40:16,789 He's the general sniff right here. Brigadier General Gus Sniff. He's the general sniff right here. Brigadier General Gus Sniff.
702 00:40:17,790 00:40:19,917 - [man] Brigadier General. - [all chuckling] - [man] Brigadier General. - [all chuckling]
703 00:40:22,169 00:40:23,170 [Ligmanowski] All right. [Ligmanowski] All right.
704 00:40:23,254 00:40:25,589 [Jordan] Y'all get out of here. We got a heated debate. [Jordan] Y'all get out of here. We got a heated debate.
705 00:40:25,673 00:40:28,509 Heated debate about the president. Y'all gotta get out of here. Heated debate about the president. Y'all gotta get out of here.
706 00:40:29,385 00:40:31,429 [man] He'll be running the country next week. [man] He'll be running the country next week.
707 00:40:31,512 00:40:33,055 Gus is gonna be running the country. Gus is gonna be running the country.
708 00:40:33,139 00:40:35,182 [Ligmanowski] If the president had Sniff Brothers, [Ligmanowski] If the president had Sniff Brothers,
709 00:40:35,266 00:40:36,559 he wouldn't have this problem. he wouldn't have this problem.
710 00:40:36,642 00:40:37,726 [all laugh] [all laugh]
711 00:40:42,106 00:40:43,482 [Sager] That'll pay for your fine. [Sager] That'll pay for your fine.
712 00:40:43,566 00:40:46,235 - Oh, yeah? It'll pay for my fine, see? - [laughs] - Oh, yeah? It'll pay for my fine, see? - [laughs]
713 00:40:47,528 00:40:48,571 See what I'm saying? See what I'm saying?
714 00:40:49,029 00:40:52,575 All people that's in the business are crooked, too. I'm letting you know. All people that's in the business are crooked, too. I'm letting you know.
715 00:40:52,658 00:40:56,162 That was Craig Sager gave me 20 bucks to pay for my fine. That was Craig Sager gave me 20 bucks to pay for my fine.
716 00:40:56,745 00:40:59,345 - [man] Sounds like a bribe. Report him. - That's what I'm saying. - [man] Sounds like a bribe. Report him. - That's what I'm saying.
717 00:40:59,415 00:41:02,543 He must want to interview me. He wants something. That's his problem. He must want to interview me. He wants something. That's his problem.
718 00:41:05,337 00:41:06,714 [man] He's just saying hi. [man] He's just saying hi.
719 00:41:09,216 00:41:10,593 Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
720 00:41:12,178 00:41:13,378 [woman] They love you so much. [woman] They love you so much.
721 00:41:13,429 00:41:15,848 ...the entertainment... Anyway, entertainment... ...the entertainment... Anyway, entertainment...
722 00:41:15,931 00:41:17,016 [Rodman] Here you go, dude. [Rodman] Here you go, dude.
723 00:41:17,099 00:41:20,311 Oh, my God! Thank you! Oh, my God! Thank you!
724 00:41:20,394 00:41:21,479 [boy] Just a signature! [boy] Just a signature!
725 00:41:21,562 00:41:24,565 Please, Mr. Rodman. Thank you so much. Please, Mr. Rodman. Thank you so much.
726 00:41:26,192 00:41:27,485 [Rodman] Y'all like Chicago? [Rodman] Y'all like Chicago?
727 00:41:27,568 00:41:29,737 - Yes, it's awesome. - [woman] We love it. - Yes, it's awesome. - [woman] We love it.
728 00:41:29,820 00:41:32,364 - You need to come to Nashville sometime. - No, hell no. - You need to come to Nashville sometime. - No, hell no.
729 00:41:32,448 00:41:35,201 I've been to Nashville, brother, uh-uh. No. I've been to Nashville, brother, uh-uh. No.
730 00:41:49,006 00:41:50,341 [man chuckles] [man chuckles]
731 00:41:50,424 00:41:54,303 Two months ago, Scottie Pippen said he would never play for the Bulls again. Two months ago, Scottie Pippen said he would never play for the Bulls again.
732 00:41:54,386 00:41:58,474 But he softened his stance, saying he was looking forward to returning to the team. But he softened his stance, saying he was looking forward to returning to the team.
733 00:41:58,557 00:42:00,893 So the question became when would he come back? So the question became when would he come back?
734 00:42:01,977 00:42:03,737 [interviewer] What made you change your mind? [interviewer] What made you change your mind?
735 00:42:04,563 00:42:07,441 - Change my mind about coming to play? - [interviewer] Yeah. - Change my mind about coming to play? - [interviewer] Yeah.
736 00:42:08,025 00:42:11,362 I just... I knew that it was probably going to come down I just... I knew that it was probably going to come down
737 00:42:11,445 00:42:15,324 to me and the team trying to play hardball, to me and the team trying to play hardball,
738 00:42:15,407 00:42:17,701 and I would lose in that situation and I would lose in that situation
739 00:42:17,785 00:42:21,580 because they would start to fine me, probably, so, uh... because they would start to fine me, probably, so, uh...
740 00:42:23,874 00:42:26,877 I wasn't going to let them benefit in that way. I wasn't going to let them benefit in that way.
741 00:42:27,753 00:42:34,218 Bottom line is, uh, I was willing to accept a trade if they did it. Bottom line is, uh, I was willing to accept a trade if they did it.
742 00:42:34,301 00:42:36,679 And I knew they wasn't going to do it. And I knew they wasn't going to do it.
743 00:42:37,471 00:42:39,932 [reporter] After watching 35 games from the bench, [reporter] After watching 35 games from the bench,
744 00:42:40,015 00:42:43,811 the Bulls forward suited up at the United Center tonight and took the court. the Bulls forward suited up at the United Center tonight and took the court.
745 00:42:43,894 00:42:47,022 [commentator] As for Dennis Rodman, check out the newest hairstyle. [commentator] As for Dennis Rodman, check out the newest hairstyle.
746 00:42:47,106 00:42:51,235 Word is that those are 33s in tribute to Pippen's return. Word is that those are 33s in tribute to Pippen's return.
747 00:42:51,819 00:42:54,280 [reporter] Pippen ended up playing 31 minutes, [reporter] Pippen ended up playing 31 minutes,
748 00:42:54,363 00:42:57,700 scoring 14 points, grabbing four rebounds, dishing out five assists, scoring 14 points, grabbing four rebounds, dishing out five assists,
749 00:42:57,783 00:43:01,328 and the Bulls have to feel uplifted by having Pippen back. and the Bulls have to feel uplifted by having Pippen back.
750 00:43:02,079 00:43:03,747 [Smith] When Scottie wasn't there, [Smith] When Scottie wasn't there,
751 00:43:03,831 00:43:06,959 Dennis loved the fact that Michael needed him. Dennis loved the fact that Michael needed him.
752 00:43:07,876 00:43:09,003 Hey, Dennis... Hey, Dennis...
753 00:43:10,462 00:43:13,090 Let me know when Oakley's gonna set a back screen on me. Let me know when Oakley's gonna set a back screen on me.
754 00:43:13,757 00:43:15,610 - He set that screen right there so he... - Yeah. - He set that screen right there so he... - Yeah.
755 00:43:15,634 00:43:17,469 You want me to open up and just hold him? You want me to open up and just hold him?
756 00:43:18,387 00:43:20,681 If you have to switch out, switch out. If you have to switch out, switch out.
757 00:43:20,764 00:43:22,951 I can stop Houston right there, Oak's gotta turn around, I can stop Houston right there, Oak's gotta turn around,
758 00:43:22,975 00:43:25,615 - I can stop him as you catch up. - When the clock is running down, - I can stop him as you catch up. - When the clock is running down,
759 00:43:25,686 00:43:27,813 he's setting that screen, and veering over the top... he's setting that screen, and veering over the top...
760 00:43:28,606 00:43:30,357 switch in that situation. switch in that situation.
761 00:43:30,899 00:43:34,862 He was, "Hey, Michael, it's me and you. We got this." He was, "Hey, Michael, it's me and you. We got this."
762 00:43:35,863 00:43:38,324 And when Scottie came back, that's when they lost him. And when Scottie came back, that's when they lost him.
763 00:43:39,158 00:43:42,411 [Rodman] When Scottie came back, we've got the Three Amigos again, [Rodman] When Scottie came back, we've got the Three Amigos again,
764 00:43:42,494 00:43:45,414 and I'm pretty much the third wheel of the family. and I'm pretty much the third wheel of the family.
765 00:43:46,290 00:43:52,212 Rodman's descent became dramatic, his drinking, his partying, Rodman's descent became dramatic, his drinking, his partying,
766 00:43:52,296 00:43:54,757 his connection with reality. his connection with reality.
767 00:43:55,883 00:43:57,468 [Rodman] People don't understand, [Rodman] People don't understand,
768 00:43:57,551 00:44:00,721 it's just not basketball that we have to deal with on this team. it's just not basketball that we have to deal with on this team.
769 00:44:00,804 00:44:07,478 It's the pressure of the bullshit, you know. I'll play the game for free, It's the pressure of the bullshit, you know. I'll play the game for free,
770 00:44:07,561 00:44:11,023 but you get paid for the bullshit after you leave the floor. but you get paid for the bullshit after you leave the floor.
771 00:44:11,857 00:44:14,610 The public pressure, the media pressure. The public pressure, the media pressure.
772 00:44:15,110 00:44:18,030 - Get out of my face, I'm done. I'm done. - [reporters laugh] - Get out of my face, I'm done. I'm done. - [reporters laugh]
773 00:44:19,615 00:44:20,699 I'm not talking, man. I'm not talking, man.
774 00:44:21,200 00:44:22,910 No comment. How about that one? No comment. How about that one?
775 00:44:27,706 00:44:29,917 Basketball is simple, it's a simple game, Basketball is simple, it's a simple game,
776 00:44:30,000 00:44:33,045 but when you leave this confined zone... but when you leave this confined zone...
777 00:44:34,546 00:44:36,090 It's hard, it's hard. It's hard, it's hard.
778 00:44:37,216 00:44:40,094 I never have to prove anything to people in this country. I never have to prove anything to people in this country.
779 00:44:40,177 00:44:44,056 This business can kiss my ass. I don't give a damn what they think about me. This business can kiss my ass. I don't give a damn what they think about me.
780 00:44:45,683 00:44:48,644 Everybody understood Dennis' impact on the group, Everybody understood Dennis' impact on the group,
781 00:44:48,727 00:44:52,564 and we understood that he had, uh, different, uh... and we understood that he had, uh, different, uh...
782 00:44:53,315 00:44:55,943 needs in his personal life than we did. needs in his personal life than we did.
783 00:44:56,527 00:44:58,527 [interviewer] I'll play you something from Michael. [interviewer] I'll play you something from Michael.
784 00:45:03,867 00:45:07,287 [Jordan] While Scottie was out, Dennis was a model citizen, [Jordan] While Scottie was out, Dennis was a model citizen,
785 00:45:07,371 00:45:11,542 to a point where it was driving him fucking insane. to a point where it was driving him fucking insane.
786 00:45:11,625 00:45:14,878 So, when Scottie came back, So, when Scottie came back,
787 00:45:14,962 00:45:17,131 Dennis wanted to take a vacation. Dennis wanted to take a vacation.
788 00:45:17,214 00:45:18,090 [laughs] [laughs]
789 00:45:18,173 00:45:22,386 I come to practice. Phil calls me, says, "Dennis wants to tell you something." I come to practice. Phil calls me, says, "Dennis wants to tell you something."
790 00:45:22,469 00:45:23,345 [chuckles] [chuckles]
791 00:45:23,429 00:45:26,890 When Dennis wants to tell me something, I knew it's not something I want to hear. When Dennis wants to tell me something, I knew it's not something I want to hear.
792 00:45:26,974 00:45:28,892 It sounds... [chuckling] It sounds... [chuckling]
793 00:45:28,976 00:45:32,271 So, Dennis says, "I need a vacation." So, Dennis says, "I need a vacation."
794 00:45:32,354 00:45:35,232 And I look at Phil, "Phil, what do you mean, a vacation?" And I look at Phil, "Phil, what do you mean, a vacation?"
795 00:45:35,315 00:45:37,735 He says, "He needs a vacation, time off to let loose." He says, "He needs a vacation, time off to let loose."
796 00:45:37,818 00:45:40,237 I said, "Look, Phil, let me tell you something, man. I said, "Look, Phil, let me tell you something, man.
797 00:45:40,738 00:45:43,198 If anybody need a fucking vacation, I need a vacation." If anybody need a fucking vacation, I need a vacation."
798 00:45:43,282 00:45:46,452 He says... We look at Dennis, "Dennis, what are you gonna do?" He says... We look at Dennis, "Dennis, what are you gonna do?"
799 00:45:47,327 00:45:49,121 He says, "Well, I need to go to Vegas." He says, "Well, I need to go to Vegas."
800 00:45:49,204 00:45:50,664 [laughs] [laughs]
801 00:45:52,332 00:45:55,461 "Phil, you let this dude go to vacation, we're not going to see him. "Phil, you let this dude go to vacation, we're not going to see him.
802 00:45:55,544 00:45:58,130 You let him go to Vegas, we definitely not going to see him." You let him go to Vegas, we definitely not going to see him."
803 00:45:58,922 00:46:01,258 So, he looks at Dennis, he says, "Dennis, well, So, he looks at Dennis, he says, "Dennis, well,
804 00:46:01,341 00:46:03,802 can your vacation be, like, 48 hours?" can your vacation be, like, 48 hours?"
805 00:46:04,344 00:46:05,554 And Dennis is like, And Dennis is like,
806 00:46:05,637 00:46:09,141 "I got no other choice, I take whatever you can give me, I'll take the 48 hours." "I got no other choice, I take whatever you can give me, I'll take the 48 hours."
807 00:46:09,224 00:46:12,186 "Forty-eight hours. You got 48 hours, Dennis." "Forty-eight hours. You got 48 hours, Dennis."
808 00:46:12,269 00:46:15,814 I'm looking at Phil, "You ain't gonna get that dude back in 48 hours. I'm looking at Phil, "You ain't gonna get that dude back in 48 hours.
809 00:46:15,898 00:46:17,775 I don't care what you say. He's done. I don't care what you say. He's done.
810 00:46:17,858 00:46:19,777 Okay. 48 hours." Okay. 48 hours."
811 00:46:20,861 00:46:24,656 If he leaves that room, go straight to the airport... Boom! If he leaves that room, go straight to the airport... Boom!
812 00:46:24,740 00:46:26,950 They don't hear or see Dennis for 48 hours. They don't hear or see Dennis for 48 hours.
813 00:46:28,035 00:46:30,078 [chuckles] I remember that. [chuckles] I remember that.
814 00:46:30,162 00:46:33,207 I went to fucking Vegas. [laughs] I went to fucking Vegas. [laughs]
815 00:46:33,290 00:46:34,625 [motorbike engine running] [motorbike engine running]
816 00:46:35,250 00:46:36,376 [crowd yelling] [crowd yelling]
817 00:46:40,798 00:46:45,928 [Kerr] Dennis was bizarre, but I think what made it work was [Kerr] Dennis was bizarre, but I think what made it work was
818 00:46:46,011 00:46:48,972 Phil and Michael's understanding... Phil and Michael's understanding...
819 00:46:49,556 00:46:52,392 that to get the most out of him on the court, that to get the most out of him on the court,
820 00:46:52,476 00:46:54,186 you had to give him some rope. you had to give him some rope.
821 00:46:54,728 00:46:56,855 And they gave him a lot of rope. And they gave him a lot of rope.
822 00:46:56,939 00:46:58,190 [engine revving] [engine revving]