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1 00:00:07,048 00:00:08,758 [reporter 1] Scottie, in the paper today, [reporter 1] Scottie, in the paper today,
2 00:00:08,842 00:00:11,594 it says that Phil wants one more year back here it says that Phil wants one more year back here
3 00:00:11,678 00:00:14,055 and Michael wants $36 million. and Michael wants $36 million.
4 00:00:14,139 00:00:18,226 And it also quotes Jerry Krause as not ruling out a trade for you, And it also quotes Jerry Krause as not ruling out a trade for you,
5 00:00:18,309 00:00:21,604 which leaves you flapping in the breeze. Does that bother you? which leaves you flapping in the breeze. Does that bother you?
6 00:00:21,688 00:00:22,688 No. No.
7 00:00:23,815 00:00:27,694 I would love the opportunity of finishing my career out in Chicago, I would love the opportunity of finishing my career out in Chicago,
8 00:00:27,777 00:00:31,656 but if it don't happen, then I'll just have to look elsewhere. but if it don't happen, then I'll just have to look elsewhere.
9 00:00:32,532 00:00:35,118 I'm one of the best players to ever play the game. I'm one of the best players to ever play the game.
10 00:00:36,870 00:00:39,622 I understand what my value is to this game. I understand what my value is to this game.
11 00:00:40,457 00:00:42,751 [reporter 2] You're underpaid as one of the top players. [reporter 2] You're underpaid as one of the top players.
12 00:00:42,834 00:00:44,210 What do you think your value is... What do you think your value is...
13 00:00:44,294 00:00:45,420 My day'll come. My day'll come.
14 00:00:46,379 00:00:47,464 My day will come. My day will come.
15 00:00:52,385 00:00:53,887 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
16 00:01:00,852 00:01:02,062 [Pippen] Thank you. [Pippen] Thank you.
17 00:01:02,729 00:01:06,399 Thank you for all the wonderful moments that the fans here in this city Thank you for all the wonderful moments that the fans here in this city
18 00:01:06,483 00:01:10,445 have shown me and my teammates for ten long seasons. have shown me and my teammates for ten long seasons.
19 00:01:14,115 00:01:15,700 I've had a wonderful career here, I've had a wonderful career here,
20 00:01:15,784 00:01:19,287 and if I never have the opportunity to say this again: thank you. and if I never have the opportunity to say this again: thank you.
21 00:01:19,370 00:01:21,039 [crowd continues cheering] [crowd continues cheering]
22 00:01:24,501 00:01:26,836 [reporter] Scottie Pippen with a tearful thank you. [reporter] Scottie Pippen with a tearful thank you.
23 00:01:26,920 00:01:29,214 We thought, for one unconscionable moment, We thought, for one unconscionable moment,
24 00:01:29,297 00:01:31,508 we might be hearing a retirement statement there. we might be hearing a retirement statement there.
25 00:01:32,926 00:01:38,056 What made me upset was I knew it was the end of the journey, What made me upset was I knew it was the end of the journey,
26 00:01:38,139 00:01:42,143 and I never saw it ending like that. and I never saw it ending like that.
27 00:01:42,894 00:01:46,940 Jerry Krause made everything real murky when he said, Jerry Krause made everything real murky when he said,
28 00:01:47,023 00:01:49,067 "This is Phil's last year. "This is Phil's last year.
29 00:01:49,150 00:01:53,321 We're dismantling this team after this season." We're dismantling this team after this season."
30 00:01:53,404 00:01:56,241 We're basically relieved of our duties. We're basically relieved of our duties.
31 00:02:00,954 00:02:02,455 [commentator 1] A spectacular move! [commentator 1] A spectacular move!
32 00:02:02,539 00:02:04,124 [commentator 2] The game's over! [commentator 2] The game's over!
33 00:02:04,207 00:02:06,543 [commentator 3] Chicago Stadium is going wild! [commentator 3] Chicago Stadium is going wild!
34 00:02:08,503 00:02:11,005 [Jackson] First of all, there's no backstabbing going on here. [Jackson] First of all, there's no backstabbing going on here.
35 00:02:11,089 00:02:12,047 It's time for me to move on. It's time for me to move on.
36 00:02:12,048 00:02:14,448 [Krause] This will be Phil's last year as coach of the Bulls. [Krause] This will be Phil's last year as coach of the Bulls.
37 00:02:17,053 00:02:19,615 - [man 1] Are the expectations too high? - [man 2] Where do we go from here? - [man 1] Are the expectations too high? - [man 2] Where do we go from here?
38 00:02:19,639 00:02:22,142 [woman] The only question: how long can it last? [woman] The only question: how long can it last?
39 00:02:30,233 00:02:32,652 - [indistinct chatter] - [camera shutters clicking] - [indistinct chatter] - [camera shutters clicking]
40 00:02:35,905 00:02:37,198 [reporter 1] I'm being squished. [reporter 1] I'm being squished.
41 00:02:37,282 00:02:39,242 - [reporter 2] Sorry. - [reporter 3] Take it easy. - [reporter 2] Sorry. - [reporter 3] Take it easy.
42 00:02:39,701 00:02:42,829 [reporter 4] Michael, what did you make of Scottie Pippen's speech? [reporter 4] Michael, what did you make of Scottie Pippen's speech?
43 00:02:42,912 00:02:44,789 He was kind of caught up in emotions. He was kind of caught up in emotions.
44 00:02:45,582 00:02:47,167 [Jordan] Scottie has feelings. [Jordan] Scottie has feelings.
45 00:02:47,250 00:02:51,004 He certainly has dedication and love for the city of Chicago and, uh... He certainly has dedication and love for the city of Chicago and, uh...
46 00:02:52,005 00:02:57,010 you know, it's tough when you have so much appreciation for the fans you know, it's tough when you have so much appreciation for the fans
47 00:02:57,093 00:02:59,345 who have supported you for so many years who have supported you for so many years
48 00:02:59,429 00:03:01,639 and sometimes, when you get out there and speak, and sometimes, when you get out there and speak,
49 00:03:01,723 00:03:04,309 it has to touch you deep down inside, um, it has to touch you deep down inside, um,
50 00:03:05,185 00:03:06,895 and with all that's happened thus far, and with all that's happened thus far,
51 00:03:06,978 00:03:10,231 it certainly can be a very emotional situation for him. it certainly can be a very emotional situation for him.
52 00:03:11,566 00:03:13,484 [reporter 5] Have you talked with him at all... [reporter 5] Have you talked with him at all...
53 00:03:13,568 00:03:16,029 Are y'all gonna talk about the game or about Scottie? Are y'all gonna talk about the game or about Scottie?
54 00:03:16,112 00:03:17,028 A little bit of both. A little bit of both.
55 00:03:17,030 00:03:19,070 Well, you talk to Scottie to answer Scottie's reply. Well, you talk to Scottie to answer Scottie's reply.
56 00:03:19,115 00:03:21,051 - Okay, what about the game, then? - There you go. - Okay, what about the game, then? - There you go.
57 00:03:21,075 00:03:22,075 [laughter] [laughter]
58 00:03:48,937 00:03:50,897 [Wilbon] Scottie Pippen was the underrated, [Wilbon] Scottie Pippen was the underrated,
59 00:03:50,980 00:03:54,984 underappreciated Robin to Michael's Batman. underappreciated Robin to Michael's Batman.
60 00:03:55,068 00:03:58,821 [Jordan] I would never be able to find a tandem, another support system, [Jordan] I would never be able to find a tandem, another support system,
61 00:03:58,905 00:04:01,866 another partner in the game of basketball like Scottie Pippen. another partner in the game of basketball like Scottie Pippen.
62 00:04:01,950 00:04:03,576 He was a pleasure to play with. He was a pleasure to play with.
63 00:04:04,327 00:04:06,955 [commentator 1] What a show the Bulls are putting on here. [commentator 1] What a show the Bulls are putting on here.
64 00:04:07,038 00:04:11,167 [commentator 2] Pippen right back to Jordan! Yes. Oh, my! [commentator 2] Pippen right back to Jordan! Yes. Oh, my!
65 00:04:12,502 00:04:13,753 Through trial and error, Through trial and error,
66 00:04:13,836 00:04:18,591 through that kind of blast furnace that Michael would put people through, through that kind of blast furnace that Michael would put people through,
67 00:04:19,676 00:04:20,676 Scottie got tough. Scottie got tough.
68 00:04:20,718 00:04:22,804 [commentator 3] Scottie coming hard on the drive, [commentator 3] Scottie coming hard on the drive,
69 00:04:22,887 00:04:26,057 - takes it all the way to the rack... Oh! - [commentator 4] Over Barkley! - takes it all the way to the rack... Oh! - [commentator 4] Over Barkley!
70 00:04:26,140 00:04:29,560 And he was lethal, defensively. And he was lethal, defensively.
71 00:04:29,644 00:04:31,896 [commentator 5] Sedale Threatt. Antonio hard... [commentator 5] Sedale Threatt. Antonio hard...
72 00:04:31,980 00:04:34,274 - Oh, my, Pippen! - [commentator 6] What a play! - Oh, my, Pippen! - [commentator 6] What a play!
73 00:04:34,357 00:04:37,652 Sensational end-to-end defensive action! Sensational end-to-end defensive action!
74 00:04:39,737 00:04:40,737 Oh, Pip! Oh, Pip!
75 00:04:41,864 00:04:45,201 [Jordan] He helped me so much in the way that I approached the game, [Jordan] He helped me so much in the way that I approached the game,
76 00:04:45,285 00:04:46,619 the way I played the game. the way I played the game.
77 00:04:47,245 00:04:49,932 Whenever they speak Michael Jordan, they should speak Scottie Pippen. Whenever they speak Michael Jordan, they should speak Scottie Pippen.
78 00:04:49,956 00:04:50,999 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
79 00:04:52,959 00:04:56,254 When everybody says, well, I won all these championships. When everybody says, well, I won all these championships.
80 00:04:57,005 00:04:59,007 But I didn't win without Scottie Pippen. But I didn't win without Scottie Pippen.
81 00:05:00,383 00:05:03,845 And, you know, that's why I consider him my best teammate of all time. And, you know, that's why I consider him my best teammate of all time.
82 00:05:09,809 00:05:12,645 [Pippen] I grew up in a town of about 3,500 people. [Pippen] I grew up in a town of about 3,500 people.
83 00:05:13,563 00:05:15,732 Everybody pretty much knew each other. Everybody pretty much knew each other.
84 00:05:16,941 00:05:22,488 My mom and my dad were very strong people and they were about surviving, My mom and my dad were very strong people and they were about surviving,
85 00:05:22,572 00:05:25,950 and obviously that's what they were about if they had 12 kids. and obviously that's what they were about if they had 12 kids.
86 00:05:29,787 00:05:32,749 We used to have a basket in my grandmother's yard. We used to have a basket in my grandmother's yard.
87 00:05:32,832 00:05:36,377 It was in the dirt, so it would be dusty all the time. It was in the dirt, so it would be dusty all the time.
88 00:05:36,961 00:05:40,131 It didn't matter. I had old shoes anyway. It didn't matter. I had old shoes anyway.
89 00:05:40,214 00:05:44,093 Everybody was close-knit, everybody shared everything, you know. Everybody was close-knit, everybody shared everything, you know.
90 00:05:44,177 00:05:47,055 It was just a good time. We didn't even know we were poor. It was just a good time. We didn't even know we were poor.
91 00:05:47,138 00:05:48,306 [chuckles] [chuckles]
92 00:05:50,850 00:05:52,560 [Pippen] I was about 11 or 12. [Pippen] I was about 11 or 12.
93 00:05:54,937 00:06:00,360 My dad had just gotten home and as he was eating his dinner, My dad had just gotten home and as he was eating his dinner,
94 00:06:00,443 00:06:01,444 he just, kinda... he just, kinda...
95 00:06:03,112 00:06:06,366 fell back and he suffered a stroke. fell back and he suffered a stroke.
96 00:06:08,785 00:06:13,623 I can still see it every time I think about it. I can still see it every time I think about it.
97 00:06:15,124 00:06:19,504 He lost his speech and he was stuck in a wheelchair He lost his speech and he was stuck in a wheelchair
98 00:06:19,587 00:06:22,131 and bedridden for the rest of his life. and bedridden for the rest of his life.
99 00:06:24,008 00:06:25,593 Six years before that, Six years before that,
100 00:06:26,469 00:06:30,431 my second-oldest brother was in junior high school. my second-oldest brother was in junior high school.
101 00:06:31,724 00:06:36,521 A kid fell on him in a PE class with a wrestling move. A kid fell on him in a PE class with a wrestling move.
102 00:06:37,397 00:06:39,190 It paralyzed him, so... It paralyzed him, so...
103 00:06:40,066 00:06:42,902 - [interviewer] So, you grew up with... - Two. - [interviewer] So, you grew up with... - Two.
104 00:06:42,985 00:06:46,155 Yeah. Yeah, with two people in my house in a wheelchair. Yeah. Yeah, with two people in my house in a wheelchair.
105 00:06:47,907 00:06:52,412 Basketball gave me an opportunity just to get out of the house and play. Basketball gave me an opportunity just to get out of the house and play.
106 00:06:52,495 00:06:55,415 And didn't need anyone to play with. And didn't need anyone to play with.
107 00:06:55,998 00:06:59,335 Dr. J was my childhood hero. Dr. J was my childhood hero.
108 00:06:59,836 00:07:04,257 I always wanted to play like him and dunk the basketball like him. I always wanted to play like him and dunk the basketball like him.
109 00:07:05,550 00:07:08,803 I felt like, that one day, I was gonna be in his shoes. I felt like, that one day, I was gonna be in his shoes.
110 00:07:08,886 00:07:11,264 Yeah, that's every kid's dream. Yeah, that's every kid's dream.
111 00:07:11,347 00:07:15,017 Every kid's dream, wanna play in the NBA at one time or another. Every kid's dream, wanna play in the NBA at one time or another.
112 00:07:17,353 00:07:18,563 It's just a dream. It's just a dream.
113 00:07:20,440 00:07:22,942 He always knew he was going to make it to the NBA. He always knew he was going to make it to the NBA.
114 00:07:23,025 00:07:25,194 - [interviewer] And you believed him? - Not really. - [interviewer] And you believed him? - Not really.
115 00:07:27,113 00:07:33,661 Scottie arrived at UCA, and he started off as being the equipment manager, Scottie arrived at UCA, and he started off as being the equipment manager,
116 00:07:33,744 00:07:36,330 but he was practicing and doing all of those things but he was practicing and doing all of those things
117 00:07:36,414 00:07:38,040 that he should do with the team. that he should do with the team.
118 00:07:40,751 00:07:45,673 A few guys academically fall off so some scholarships come available, A few guys academically fall off so some scholarships come available,
119 00:07:46,424 00:07:48,801 and I go back, ask the coach. and I go back, ask the coach.
120 00:07:49,760 00:07:53,764 I was very persistent and he finally gave me a scholarship. I was very persistent and he finally gave me a scholarship.
121 00:07:53,848 00:07:57,810 He came in as a 6'1", 155-pound guard. He came in as a 6'1", 155-pound guard.
122 00:07:58,978 00:08:01,272 I got to watch him play and I thought, I got to watch him play and I thought,
123 00:08:01,355 00:08:04,066 "Wow, this guy's got a little something if he can fill out." "Wow, this guy's got a little something if he can fill out."
124 00:08:04,734 00:08:06,319 [Martin] He started lifting weights. [Martin] He started lifting weights.
125 00:08:06,402 00:08:08,821 He could handle the ball better, he could shoot better. He could handle the ball better, he could shoot better.
126 00:08:08,905 00:08:10,031 He could jump higher. He could jump higher.
127 00:08:10,114 00:08:13,367 I was getting better at such a rapid pace. I was getting better at such a rapid pace.
128 00:08:13,451 00:08:17,914 And in my freshman to my sophomore year, over the summer... And in my freshman to my sophomore year, over the summer...
129 00:08:19,040 00:08:21,000 I grew five inches. I grew five inches.
130 00:08:22,043 00:08:24,921 [Martin] When I seen him the next time, he was 6'5". [Martin] When I seen him the next time, he was 6'5".
131 00:08:25,463 00:08:27,590 And then the next time I seen him, he was 6'7". And then the next time I seen him, he was 6'7".
132 00:08:28,633 00:08:30,676 [commentator] Beautiful pass and he... Oh! [commentator] Beautiful pass and he... Oh!
133 00:08:30,760 00:08:32,970 To Pippen cutting right across the line... To Pippen cutting right across the line...
134 00:08:33,554 00:08:34,639 He exploded. He exploded.
135 00:08:34,722 00:08:37,600 [commentator] Three-on-one break, Parish to Pippen to the... [commentator] Three-on-one break, Parish to Pippen to the...
136 00:08:38,893 00:08:41,395 [East] He kept his guard skills that he had even when he grew. [East] He kept his guard skills that he had even when he grew.
137 00:08:41,479 00:08:44,106 [commentator] Scottie Pippen underneath McClain... [commentator] Scottie Pippen underneath McClain...
138 00:08:44,190 00:08:46,108 [East] He could grab a rebound on one end, [East] He could grab a rebound on one end,
139 00:08:46,192 00:08:49,487 take it the length of the court, weave in and out of people and dunk it. take it the length of the court, weave in and out of people and dunk it.
140 00:08:49,570 00:08:51,197 Very few players can do that. Very few players can do that.
141 00:08:51,280 00:08:52,740 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
142 00:08:56,911 00:09:00,623 I remember the coach saying, "Scottie, they out there, they looking for you now." I remember the coach saying, "Scottie, they out there, they looking for you now."
143 00:09:05,378 00:09:07,505 [Clinton] I was a fanatic basketball fan [Clinton] I was a fanatic basketball fan
144 00:09:07,588 00:09:10,758 and I went down and watched Pippen play. I knew he was gonna be really good. and I went down and watched Pippen play. I knew he was gonna be really good.
145 00:09:10,841 00:09:13,511 First time I met him, he could hardly string three words together, First time I met him, he could hardly string three words together,
146 00:09:13,594 00:09:14,594 he was so shy. he was so shy.
147 00:09:14,595 00:09:17,807 By the time he graduated from the University of Central Arkansas, By the time he graduated from the University of Central Arkansas,
148 00:09:17,890 00:09:20,184 which was an NAIA team, which was an NAIA team,
149 00:09:20,268 00:09:22,728 he was the best player in his division in America. he was the best player in his division in America.
150 00:09:22,812 00:09:24,230 I just really got excited. I just really got excited.
151 00:09:24,313 00:09:26,190 When I saw Scottie Pippen play the first time, When I saw Scottie Pippen play the first time,
152 00:09:26,274 00:09:29,026 I thought, "Oh, my Lord, he's gonna be a special player." I thought, "Oh, my Lord, he's gonna be a special player."
153 00:09:29,110 00:09:32,738 [East] The NBA scouts saw the versatility, they saw the athletic ability, [East] The NBA scouts saw the versatility, they saw the athletic ability,
154 00:09:32,822 00:09:34,031 they saw the humbleness. they saw the humbleness.
155 00:09:34,699 00:09:41,080 The Seattle SuperSonics select Scott Pippen of Central Arkansas. The Seattle SuperSonics select Scott Pippen of Central Arkansas.
156 00:09:41,789 00:09:45,668 [announcer] Scott Pippen from the University of Central Arkansas. [announcer] Scott Pippen from the University of Central Arkansas.
157 00:09:45,751 00:09:48,337 He's 21 years old, and that's right, folks, He's 21 years old, and that's right, folks,
158 00:09:48,421 00:09:51,048 you probably have never heard of Scottie Pippen. you probably have never heard of Scottie Pippen.
159 00:09:51,132 00:09:52,359 [reporter 1] Scottie, one year ago, [reporter 1] Scottie, one year ago,
160 00:09:52,383 00:09:54,552 if someone said you'd be the fifth player in the draft, if someone said you'd be the fifth player in the draft,
161 00:09:54,635 00:09:55,761 what would you have said? what would you have said?
162 00:09:55,845 00:09:58,347 I would have told them, probably, that they was joking. I would have told them, probably, that they was joking.
163 00:09:59,724 00:10:02,059 I would have figured it's just been a big joke. I would have figured it's just been a big joke.
164 00:10:02,393 00:10:05,563 [reporter 2] Do you know that there's a deal involving Seattle and Chicago [reporter 2] Do you know that there's a deal involving Seattle and Chicago
165 00:10:05,646 00:10:06,856 and you're going to be traded? and you're going to be traded?
166 00:10:06,939 00:10:08,357 No, I have not heard about it. No, I have not heard about it.
167 00:10:09,317 00:10:13,904 - Apparently, you're wearing the wrong hat. - Yeah? [laughs] - Apparently, you're wearing the wrong hat. - Yeah? [laughs]
168 00:10:13,988 00:10:17,450 We realized that we were gonna have to maneuver to get up in the draft We realized that we were gonna have to maneuver to get up in the draft
169 00:10:17,533 00:10:20,536 to get a higher pick than we otherwise would have had to get him. to get a higher pick than we otherwise would have had to get him.
170 00:10:20,620 00:10:22,330 And Krause was able to pull off a trade. And Krause was able to pull off a trade.
171 00:10:24,040 00:10:26,560 [Krause] We were able to work a trade the night before the draft [Krause] We were able to work a trade the night before the draft
172 00:10:26,584 00:10:28,878 and technically, the Seattle club took him for us, and technically, the Seattle club took him for us,
173 00:10:28,961 00:10:30,838 and then we acquired him. and then we acquired him.
174 00:10:30,921 00:10:34,091 You know, Chicago is a great franchise and probably every player You know, Chicago is a great franchise and probably every player
175 00:10:34,175 00:10:37,511 that's sitting out in the audience wants to be a part of the Bulls. that's sitting out in the audience wants to be a part of the Bulls.
176 00:10:37,595 00:10:39,972 [reporter] The Bulls brought in Scottie Pippen, [reporter] The Bulls brought in Scottie Pippen,
177 00:10:40,056 00:10:43,225 touted to make an immediate impact in the NBA. touted to make an immediate impact in the NBA.
178 00:10:43,309 00:10:44,309 [coach] Let's go! [coach] Let's go!
179 00:10:44,894 00:10:47,897 [commentator] Scottie Pippen about to make his big-league debut. [commentator] Scottie Pippen about to make his big-league debut.
180 00:10:47,980 00:10:51,233 Barkley nearly kicked it away, plays it outside. Stolen by Pippen! Barkley nearly kicked it away, plays it outside. Stolen by Pippen!
181 00:10:51,317 00:10:52,943 Scottie Pippen on the breakaway! Scottie Pippen on the breakaway!
182 00:10:53,736 00:10:55,529 Scottie Pippen made the steal Scottie Pippen made the steal
183 00:10:55,613 00:10:57,865 and then jammed with both hands at the other end. and then jammed with both hands at the other end.
184 00:10:57,948 00:10:59,508 [Oakley] Scottie talked a lot of trash. [Oakley] Scottie talked a lot of trash.
185 00:11:00,534 00:11:03,287 Scottie came in and said, "I'll be better than Michael Jordan..." Scottie came in and said, "I'll be better than Michael Jordan..."
186 00:11:04,580 00:11:05,790 as a rookie. as a rookie.
187 00:11:05,873 00:11:09,752 I was pretty confident in who I was as a player. I was pretty confident in who I was as a player.
188 00:11:09,835 00:11:13,422 But as a rookie, you get treated like a rookie and... But as a rookie, you get treated like a rookie and...
189 00:11:14,507 00:11:18,427 Charles was a bully, so he beat me up for saying that. Charles was a bully, so he beat me up for saying that.
190 00:11:18,511 00:11:20,388 - He's a rookie here. - We had a deal... - He's a rookie here. - We had a deal...
191 00:11:20,471 00:11:21,722 [indistinct] [indistinct]
192 00:11:21,806 00:11:24,684 He get treatment like this until next year at this time. He get treatment like this until next year at this time.
193 00:11:24,767 00:11:26,268 All right? All right? All right? All right?
194 00:11:26,352 00:11:27,268 - Yeah. - Okay. - Yeah. - Okay.
195 00:11:27,269 00:11:29,480 - [man] You gotta slap him. - [Pippen laughs] - [man] You gotta slap him. - [Pippen laughs]
196 00:11:30,147 00:11:32,817 I recognized instantly that, you know, I recognized instantly that, you know,
197 00:11:32,900 00:11:36,779 you're not the top guy on the basketball team anymore. you're not the top guy on the basketball team anymore.
198 00:11:36,862 00:11:39,699 [commentator] Ball tipped away by Jordan... It's loose. [commentator] Ball tipped away by Jordan... It's loose.
199 00:11:39,782 00:11:41,659 Ahead to Jordan with the breakaway... Ahead to Jordan with the breakaway...
200 00:11:45,746 00:11:49,917 [Pippen] Michael was such a superstar in the game of basketball, [Pippen] Michael was such a superstar in the game of basketball,
201 00:11:50,000 00:11:56,382 and he was bigger than any superstar that any sport had ever had, and he was bigger than any superstar that any sport had ever had,
202 00:11:56,465 00:12:01,804 so it wasn't like he was an average guy, like, "Let's go have lunch," or whatever. so it wasn't like he was an average guy, like, "Let's go have lunch," or whatever.
203 00:12:03,097 00:12:04,140 It was different. It was different.
204 00:12:06,934 00:12:12,064 Actually, my rookie year, he gave me a pair of golf clubs. Actually, my rookie year, he gave me a pair of golf clubs.
205 00:12:12,148 00:12:15,192 [interviewer] That's a nice thing to do, to give a rookie a set of clubs. [interviewer] That's a nice thing to do, to give a rookie a set of clubs.
206 00:12:15,901 00:12:20,072 Yeah, he was trying to lure me in so he could take all my money. Yeah, he was trying to lure me in so he could take all my money.
207 00:12:21,866 00:12:24,118 [Telander] Everybody needs that number two, [Telander] Everybody needs that number two,
208 00:12:24,201 00:12:27,037 the person that does the dirty work, and Pippen was great at it. the person that does the dirty work, and Pippen was great at it.
209 00:12:27,121 00:12:29,415 [commentator 1] Here comes Michael, for a three again. [commentator 1] Here comes Michael, for a three again.
210 00:12:30,124 00:12:33,252 - Scottie with the left hand! - [commentator 2] Wow! - Scottie with the left hand! - [commentator 2] Wow!
211 00:12:34,128 00:12:35,838 But he was so low paid, But he was so low paid,
212 00:12:35,921 00:12:39,925 he was not even the 100th highest-paid player in the NBA. he was not even the 100th highest-paid player in the NBA.
213 00:12:40,009 00:12:43,095 Pippen is as underpaid as underpaid gets. Pippen is as underpaid as underpaid gets.
214 00:12:43,179 00:12:47,224 Only the 122nd highest-paid player in the league. Only the 122nd highest-paid player in the league.
215 00:12:47,308 00:12:50,770 [interviewer] Scottie Pippen signed a deal in 1991. [interviewer] Scottie Pippen signed a deal in 1991.
216 00:12:50,853 00:12:53,022 Do you recall the terms of that deal? Do you recall the terms of that deal?
217 00:12:53,105 00:12:56,567 I don't recall the terms but I do recall that it was a longer contract I don't recall the terms but I do recall that it was a longer contract
218 00:12:56,650 00:12:58,319 than I thought was smart for him. than I thought was smart for him.
219 00:12:58,402 00:12:59,904 [fans yelling indistinctly] [fans yelling indistinctly]
220 00:12:59,987 00:13:00,987 [woman] Pippen! [woman] Pippen!
221 00:13:01,906 00:13:03,199 [man] I worship you, man! [man] I worship you, man!
222 00:13:04,450 00:13:09,580 Scottie Pippen signed a deal in 1991 for 7 years for $18 million. Scottie Pippen signed a deal in 1991 for 7 years for $18 million.
223 00:13:09,663 00:13:14,835 And if he'd played it right, he could have made nine times that amount, ten times. And if he'd played it right, he could have made nine times that amount, ten times.
224 00:13:15,461 00:13:18,172 [Reinsdorf] I said to Scottie the same thing I'd said to Michael. [Reinsdorf] I said to Scottie the same thing I'd said to Michael.
225 00:13:18,255 00:13:20,055 "If I were you, I wouldn't sign this contract. "If I were you, I wouldn't sign this contract.
226 00:13:20,132 00:13:21,717 You may be selling yourself too short. You may be selling yourself too short.
227 00:13:21,801 00:13:24,053 It's too long a contract you're locking yourself in for." It's too long a contract you're locking yourself in for."
228 00:13:24,887 00:13:29,183 [Pippen] I felt like I couldn't afford to gamble myself [Pippen] I felt like I couldn't afford to gamble myself
229 00:13:29,266 00:13:32,394 getting injured and not being able to provide. getting injured and not being able to provide.
230 00:13:32,478 00:13:39,026 I needed to make sure that people in my corner were taken care of. I needed to make sure that people in my corner were taken care of.
231 00:13:39,109 00:13:44,114 He did take care of my dad and my mom, and he built them a house. He did take care of my dad and my mom, and he built them a house.
232 00:13:44,198 00:13:46,408 He sent 'em money every month and everything. He sent 'em money every month and everything.
233 00:13:46,492 00:13:47,660 They were taken care of. They were taken care of.
234 00:13:48,661 00:13:51,288 [Ethel] I don't know nothing that I need or want. [Ethel] I don't know nothing that I need or want.
235 00:13:52,081 00:13:54,500 Some of the things I don't have to ask him for. Some of the things I don't have to ask him for.
236 00:13:56,293 00:13:58,337 So I feel like he love me. So I feel like he love me.
237 00:13:59,463 00:14:01,131 I know I love him. I know I love him.
238 00:14:04,969 00:14:09,098 He signed a long-term deal and it was undervalued pretty quickly. He signed a long-term deal and it was undervalued pretty quickly.
239 00:14:09,181 00:14:11,767 The league took off, you know, The league took off, you know,
240 00:14:11,851 00:14:14,603 revenues went way, way up, salaries went up. revenues went way, way up, salaries went up.
241 00:14:16,647 00:14:20,734 Jerry Reinsdorf was emphatic about it when guys signed a contract. Jerry Reinsdorf was emphatic about it when guys signed a contract.
242 00:14:20,818 00:14:22,361 I don't want to hear from you again. I don't want to hear from you again.
243 00:14:22,444 00:14:24,446 Don't come back in here, try to renegotiate. Don't come back in here, try to renegotiate.
244 00:14:25,823 00:14:27,283 [Jackson] It was embarrassing [Jackson] It was embarrassing
245 00:14:27,366 00:14:30,160 because he was maybe the number-two player in the NBA. because he was maybe the number-two player in the NBA.
246 00:14:30,870 00:14:33,122 His value was immense. His value was immense.
247 00:14:33,914 00:14:35,833 [trainer] Just drop straight down, there you go. [trainer] Just drop straight down, there you go.
248 00:14:36,667 00:14:39,128 You know what, I'm finding it's okay on this one, You know what, I'm finding it's okay on this one,
249 00:14:39,211 00:14:41,797 but on my other, my patella doesn't... but on my other, my patella doesn't...
250 00:14:41,881 00:14:43,966 [Stack] When we got to '97 and '98, [Stack] When we got to '97 and '98,
251 00:14:44,049 00:14:46,635 that was the last year of Scottie's contract, that was the last year of Scottie's contract,
252 00:14:47,386 00:14:51,473 I know he was very frustrated, because Scottie needed to get paid. I know he was very frustrated, because Scottie needed to get paid.
253 00:14:51,557 00:14:52,808 He deserved to get paid. He deserved to get paid.
254 00:14:52,892 00:14:58,022 There was a lot of, uh, anger from Scottie. There was a lot of, uh, anger from Scottie.
255 00:14:58,105 00:15:01,400 He'd been one of the best players in the game for many years. He'd been one of the best players in the game for many years.
256 00:15:01,483 00:15:03,152 He had done so much for the Bulls. He had done so much for the Bulls.
257 00:15:03,235 00:15:06,822 So his frustration bubbled over. So his frustration bubbled over.
258 00:15:06,906 00:15:09,199 [reporter] The world champs making news this week. [reporter] The world champs making news this week.
259 00:15:09,283 00:15:12,244 Scottie Pippen of the Bulls will be out for two to three months. Scottie Pippen of the Bulls will be out for two to three months.
260 00:15:12,328 00:15:15,372 Pippen underwent surgery Monday on a sore foot in New York. Pippen underwent surgery Monday on a sore foot in New York.
261 00:15:15,456 00:15:17,082 It's an injury that's been bothering him It's an injury that's been bothering him
262 00:15:17,166 00:15:19,460 dating back to the Eastern Conference Finals. dating back to the Eastern Conference Finals.
263 00:15:19,543 00:15:22,922 [Pippen] I had a ruptured tendon in my ankle [Pippen] I had a ruptured tendon in my ankle
264 00:15:23,005 00:15:26,342 and I decided to have surgery late and I decided to have surgery late
265 00:15:27,176 00:15:29,887 because I was, like, "You know what? because I was, like, "You know what?
266 00:15:29,970 00:15:36,185 I'm not gonna fuck my summer up trying to rehab for a season, you know? I'm not gonna fuck my summer up trying to rehab for a season, you know?
267 00:15:36,268 00:15:39,563 They're not gonna be looking forward to having me. They're not gonna be looking forward to having me.
268 00:15:39,647 00:15:44,318 So, I'mma enjoy my summer, and I'll use the season to prepare." So, I'mma enjoy my summer, and I'll use the season to prepare."
269 00:15:44,401 00:15:46,278 [Jordan] Scottie was wrong in that scenario. [Jordan] Scottie was wrong in that scenario.
270 00:15:46,820 00:15:50,032 He could have got his surgery done as soon as the season was over, He could have got his surgery done as soon as the season was over,
271 00:15:50,115 00:15:51,617 and be ready for the season. and be ready for the season.
272 00:15:51,700 00:15:55,496 What Scottie was trying to do was trying to force management What Scottie was trying to do was trying to force management
273 00:15:55,579 00:15:57,790 to change his contract. to change his contract.
274 00:15:58,999 00:16:00,584 And Jerry wasn't gonna do that. And Jerry wasn't gonna do that.
275 00:16:04,171 00:16:08,550 So, now I gotta start the season knowing that Scottie wasn't gonna be around. So, now I gotta start the season knowing that Scottie wasn't gonna be around.
276 00:16:09,134 00:16:11,637 But we have to find a way to win. But we have to find a way to win.
277 00:16:12,346 00:16:15,849 How do you carry this team, now, November and December without Scottie? How do you carry this team, now, November and December without Scottie?
278 00:16:15,933 00:16:17,518 I think we have to do it collectively. I think we have to do it collectively.
279 00:16:17,601 00:16:19,721 I don't think one individual's gonna be able to do it. I don't think one individual's gonna be able to do it.
280 00:16:19,770 00:16:22,815 I think, uh, we as a team, that's what a team is all about, I think, uh, we as a team, that's what a team is all about,
281 00:16:22,898 00:16:25,234 so we have to cover up for Scottie not being here. so we have to cover up for Scottie not being here.
282 00:16:25,317 00:16:27,861 We know he's not here, but that don't mean we stop playing. We know he's not here, but that don't mean we stop playing.
283 00:16:28,570 00:16:31,073 [reporter] Our Chicago Bulls without Scottie Pippen, [reporter] Our Chicago Bulls without Scottie Pippen,
284 00:16:31,156 00:16:32,866 and they apparently missed him tonight. and they apparently missed him tonight.
285 00:16:34,368 00:16:38,455 [commentator] The Atlanta Hawks beat the Bulls here in Atlanta. [commentator] The Atlanta Hawks beat the Bulls here in Atlanta.
286 00:16:38,539 00:16:40,082 The final score, 80-78. The final score, 80-78.
287 00:16:40,708 00:16:44,670 [commentator 2] This is going to be the worst setback for the Chicago Bulls. [commentator 2] This is going to be the worst setback for the Chicago Bulls.
288 00:16:44,753 00:16:47,965 Cavaliers beat up the Chicago Bulls... Cavaliers beat up the Chicago Bulls...
289 00:16:48,048 00:16:49,550 [reporter] Again, it is still early, [reporter] Again, it is still early,
290 00:16:49,633 00:16:51,552 but four and four for the Bulls out of the gate. but four and four for the Bulls out of the gate.
291 00:16:51,635 00:16:53,846 Have not scored 100 points yet this season. Have not scored 100 points yet this season.
292 00:16:59,309 00:17:01,729 We're not playing with much continuity and much rhythm We're not playing with much continuity and much rhythm
293 00:17:01,812 00:17:04,481 and that's something that Scottie really provides for us. and that's something that Scottie really provides for us.
294 00:17:04,565 00:17:07,943 Scottie was so key for our team. He tied us together in many ways. Scottie was so key for our team. He tied us together in many ways.
295 00:17:08,777 00:17:13,198 And when you're a really good team, one loss feels like five. And when you're a really good team, one loss feels like five.
296 00:17:13,282 00:17:16,452 You're just... You're expected to win, you're supposed to win. You're just... You're expected to win, you're supposed to win.
297 00:17:16,535 00:17:20,080 And so, early in that season, we were losing games And so, early in that season, we were losing games
298 00:17:20,164 00:17:22,041 and it felt like trouble. and it felt like trouble.
299 00:17:22,124 00:17:23,208 [buzzer sounds] [buzzer sounds]
300 00:17:23,292 00:17:26,545 [commentator] As time expires, the Phoenix Suns [commentator] As time expires, the Phoenix Suns
301 00:17:27,546 00:17:32,176 have hung on for a dramatic victory over the Chicago Bulls. have hung on for a dramatic victory over the Chicago Bulls.
302 00:17:37,473 00:17:40,100 [interviewer] Scottie could've had surgery after the season ended. [interviewer] Scottie could've had surgery after the season ended.
303 00:17:40,184 00:17:41,142 Yes. Yes.
304 00:17:41,143 00:17:44,646 [interviewer] He purposely did this late to thumb his nose at management. [interviewer] He purposely did this late to thumb his nose at management.
305 00:17:44,730 00:17:46,565 Were you frustrated by how he handled this? Were you frustrated by how he handled this?
306 00:17:46,648 00:17:48,358 No, I wasn't. No, I wasn't.
307 00:17:48,942 00:17:52,237 You have to understand players' mentality and where they're coming from, You have to understand players' mentality and where they're coming from,
308 00:17:52,321 00:17:54,573 and some guys can handle it, some guys can't. and some guys can handle it, some guys can't.
309 00:17:55,115 00:17:58,577 And Scottie probably needed to have this And Scottie probably needed to have this
310 00:17:58,660 00:18:01,121 to feel like he justified what his salary was. to feel like he justified what his salary was.
311 00:18:01,205 00:18:05,375 So I stayed solid, said, "We're gonna survive this, we'll be fine. So I stayed solid, said, "We're gonna survive this, we'll be fine.
312 00:18:05,459 00:18:06,543 We'll go forward." We'll go forward."
313 00:18:06,627 00:18:10,005 That's one of the things that Phil was really good at, That's one of the things that Phil was really good at,
314 00:18:10,089 00:18:13,759 is managing distractions and keeping us focused on what we had to do. is managing distractions and keeping us focused on what we had to do.
315 00:18:13,842 00:18:15,636 Scottie's on a different timetable. Scottie's on a different timetable.
316 00:18:15,719 00:18:17,429 Gonna be a bumpy road till he gets back, Gonna be a bumpy road till he gets back,
317 00:18:17,513 00:18:19,723 but we gotta manage without him for right now. but we gotta manage without him for right now.
318 00:18:20,307 00:18:23,811 [Smith] When it came down to it, this burden always fell on Michael. [Smith] When it came down to it, this burden always fell on Michael.
319 00:18:25,020 00:18:27,231 And he welcomed it, in a lot of respects. And he welcomed it, in a lot of respects.
320 00:18:27,314 00:18:29,691 He liked that. He liked to take the responsibility. He liked that. He liked to take the responsibility.
321 00:18:29,775 00:18:33,946 I'm gearing myself up physically, to deal with whatever I have to deal with. I'm gearing myself up physically, to deal with whatever I have to deal with.
322 00:18:34,029 00:18:35,469 I'm looking forward to it, actually. I'm looking forward to it, actually.
323 00:18:37,491 00:18:40,577 [Wennington] Michael wanted to be the best player on the best team. [Wennington] Michael wanted to be the best player on the best team.
324 00:18:41,662 00:18:45,207 Scottie's not here but we're still better than this. Scottie's not here but we're still better than this.
325 00:18:45,290 00:18:48,377 [Jordan] I was trying to get the guys to understand it from my standpoint. [Jordan] I was trying to get the guys to understand it from my standpoint.
326 00:18:51,380 00:18:54,007 Scottie was out. My voice had to be the loudest. Scottie was out. My voice had to be the loudest.
327 00:18:56,218 00:18:59,012 I let my anger motivate the players by saying, I let my anger motivate the players by saying,
328 00:18:59,096 00:19:01,515 "I want this! Do you guys want it?" "I want this! Do you guys want it?"
329 00:19:02,432 00:19:04,184 He's raising his voice and calling guys out. He's raising his voice and calling guys out.
330 00:19:04,268 00:19:06,228 "You gotta rebound better, box out. "You gotta rebound better, box out.
331 00:19:06,311 00:19:09,314 We're not playing well as a team. Defensively, we're lazy." We're not playing well as a team. Defensively, we're lazy."
332 00:19:10,315 00:19:13,235 You know what he does? You sit back and wait. What are you waiting for? You know what he does? You sit back and wait. What are you waiting for?
333 00:19:13,318 00:19:14,638 [man] Waiting on the double team. [man] Waiting on the double team.
334 00:19:14,695 00:19:17,739 Why? You play aggressive, they'll come and help you? Why? You play aggressive, they'll come and help you?
335 00:19:18,532 00:19:21,493 He's not worried about hurting feelings. If he did, you could leave. He's not worried about hurting feelings. If he did, you could leave.
336 00:19:21,577 00:19:25,455 He would gladly tell you, "Get out. We don't need you here. Get out." He would gladly tell you, "Get out. We don't need you here. Get out."
337 00:19:25,539 00:19:27,958 Fuckin' Harp, what you waitin' all day for? Fuckin' Harp, what you waitin' all day for?
338 00:19:28,375 00:19:30,752 - You think we can't cope? - [Harper] We got time. - You think we can't cope? - [Harper] We got time.
339 00:19:31,628 00:19:33,463 Toni, it's okay. Toni, it's okay.
340 00:19:33,547 00:19:34,756 You know why? You know why?
341 00:19:34,840 00:19:36,758 'Cause I got to scream at you all day. 'Cause I got to scream at you all day.
342 00:19:36,842 00:19:38,177 [indistinct chatter] [indistinct chatter]
343 00:19:38,802 00:19:40,846 [Jordan] Every day that Scottie wasn't playing [Jordan] Every day that Scottie wasn't playing
344 00:19:40,929 00:19:43,223 gave someone else the confidence that they could beat us. gave someone else the confidence that they could beat us.
345 00:19:43,307 00:19:44,307 Hey! Hey!
346 00:19:45,058 00:19:47,686 And if you're trying to maintain dominance over people, And if you're trying to maintain dominance over people,
347 00:19:47,769 00:19:50,564 you don't want to give them a chance to gain confidence. you don't want to give them a chance to gain confidence.
348 00:19:51,732 00:19:55,402 So that drove my energy. Let's get this thing rolling. So that drove my energy. Let's get this thing rolling.
349 00:19:55,944 00:19:58,631 Let's go out and get our first win. I ain't gonna say this shit again. Let's go out and get our first win. I ain't gonna say this shit again.
350 00:19:58,655 00:19:59,823 Let's do it. Let's do it.
351 00:19:59,907 00:20:02,201 - [man] What time is it? - [all] Game time! [grunt] - [man] What time is it? - [all] Game time! [grunt]
352 00:20:03,243 00:20:06,955 [commentator] This Bull team fired up tonight, really wants to get off [commentator] This Bull team fired up tonight, really wants to get off
353 00:20:07,039 00:20:11,793 this 0-4 start on the road. Embarrassing for such a good team. this 0-4 start on the road. Embarrassing for such a good team.
354 00:20:11,877 00:20:15,088 The Bulls in their road blacks. The Clippers are home white. The Bulls in their road blacks. The Clippers are home white.
355 00:20:15,172 00:20:19,051 They play the Clippers, who were a joke, They play the Clippers, who were a joke,
356 00:20:19,134 00:20:20,802 the worst team in the league. the worst team in the league.
357 00:20:21,386 00:20:25,265 And yet, the dregs of the league took the Bulls to two overtimes. And yet, the dregs of the league took the Bulls to two overtimes.
358 00:20:26,183 00:20:28,769 Jordan kept waiting for somebody else to help him, Jordan kept waiting for somebody else to help him,
359 00:20:28,852 00:20:30,437 and nobody else would help. and nobody else would help.
360 00:20:30,520 00:20:35,692 For that game, he went somewhere and he found a switch. For that game, he went somewhere and he found a switch.
361 00:20:36,610 00:20:38,213 [commentator 1] And the answer to the question, [commentator 1] And the answer to the question,
362 00:20:38,237 00:20:39,529 "Is Michael Jordan tired?" "Is Michael Jordan tired?"
363 00:20:40,030 00:20:41,156 - No. - [commentator 2] No. - No. - [commentator 2] No.
364 00:20:42,366 00:20:45,244 [Aldridge] Jordan had to score 49 for them to win that game. [Aldridge] Jordan had to score 49 for them to win that game.
365 00:20:45,327 00:20:47,639 [commentator 1] No question, we saw greatness here tonight. [commentator 1] No question, we saw greatness here tonight.
366 00:20:47,663 00:20:50,666 [commentator 2] The Bulls win for the first time on the road, 111-102. [commentator 2] The Bulls win for the first time on the road, 111-102.
367 00:20:50,749 00:20:53,502 Jordan finishes with a mere 49 points. Jordan finishes with a mere 49 points.
368 00:20:54,378 00:20:56,713 We've had opportunities to win, you know, We've had opportunities to win, you know,
369 00:20:56,797 00:20:59,258 in all the games on the road except for Cleveland. in all the games on the road except for Cleveland.
370 00:20:59,341 00:21:02,386 Hopefully, we can build upon this. We can finish games on the road. Hopefully, we can build upon this. We can finish games on the road.
371 00:21:02,469 00:21:06,223 We've been in those games. And we really needed a win like this. We've been in those games. And we really needed a win like this.
372 00:21:06,306 00:21:10,310 Jordan was really worn out. Worn out physically, worn out emotionally. Jordan was really worn out. Worn out physically, worn out emotionally.
373 00:21:11,395 00:21:14,439 [man] Good job, bro. Way to finish, man. [man] Good job, bro. Way to finish, man.
374 00:21:15,315 00:21:16,566 [Jordan] Did I have a choice? [Jordan] Did I have a choice?
375 00:21:19,695 00:21:22,364 - Anyway, Michael, hope you like the story. - Thank you. - Anyway, Michael, hope you like the story. - Thank you.
376 00:21:22,447 00:21:23,740 [indistinct chatter] [indistinct chatter]
377 00:21:25,867 00:21:29,830 [Jordan] My innate personality is to win at all costs. [Jordan] My innate personality is to win at all costs.
378 00:21:29,913 00:21:32,040 If I have to do it myself, I'm gonna do it. If I have to do it myself, I'm gonna do it.
379 00:21:33,125 00:21:35,836 Excuse us, please. Excuse us. Excuse us. Excuse us, please. Excuse us. Excuse us.
380 00:21:36,586 00:21:38,797 [Jordan] Every time I step on that basketball court, [Jordan] Every time I step on that basketball court,
381 00:21:38,880 00:21:41,008 my focus is to win the game. my focus is to win the game.
382 00:21:41,883 00:21:43,135 [man 1] Excuse us, please. [man 1] Excuse us, please.
383 00:21:43,969 00:21:45,012 [man 2] Step back. [man 2] Step back.
384 00:21:46,096 00:21:48,223 It drives me insane when I can't. It drives me insane when I can't.
385 00:21:48,307 00:21:49,641 [people cheering] [people cheering]
386 00:21:53,854 00:21:55,522 [Jordan] As you get older, you look back [Jordan] As you get older, you look back
387 00:21:55,605 00:21:58,233 and you understand how you became the person you are. and you understand how you became the person you are.
388 00:21:59,192 00:22:01,278 I don't think I would be here without I don't think I would be here without
389 00:22:01,361 00:22:03,697 the lessons that I learned at a very young age. the lessons that I learned at a very young age.
390 00:22:04,406 00:22:07,951 That competitiveness within me started when I was a kid. That competitiveness within me started when I was a kid.
391 00:22:28,889 00:22:30,599 [Jordan] My parents provided us [Jordan] My parents provided us
392 00:22:30,682 00:22:33,935 with all the opportunities to succeed in life. with all the opportunities to succeed in life.
393 00:22:34,770 00:22:38,607 My father worked at General Electric. My mother worked at the banks. My father worked at General Electric. My mother worked at the banks.
394 00:22:39,399 00:22:42,694 As a black person growing up in Wilmington, As a black person growing up in Wilmington,
395 00:22:42,778 00:22:46,281 we were trying to make our... our own footsteps. we were trying to make our... our own footsteps.
396 00:22:46,365 00:22:50,702 As a family, we were naturally tough. My father was tough, my mom was tough, As a family, we were naturally tough. My father was tough, my mom was tough,
397 00:22:50,786 00:22:53,914 and the environment they brought us in was a tough environment. and the environment they brought us in was a tough environment.
398 00:22:54,831 00:22:56,958 You get knocked down, you gotta get up. You get knocked down, you gotta get up.
399 00:22:57,042 00:23:00,003 And you always give it your best and you always try to win. And you always give it your best and you always try to win.
400 00:23:00,629 00:23:02,255 We hated to lose. We hated to lose.
401 00:23:02,839 00:23:06,635 Mr. Jordan and myself always tried to share with them, Mr. Jordan and myself always tried to share with them,
402 00:23:06,718 00:23:08,970 "Don't wait for somebody to give you something. "Don't wait for somebody to give you something.
403 00:23:09,054 00:23:12,307 You're strong, you're intelligent, go out and earn it and work for it." You're strong, you're intelligent, go out and earn it and work for it."
404 00:23:12,891 00:23:16,603 We had five kids and both the wife and I, both worked and, uh... We had five kids and both the wife and I, both worked and, uh...
405 00:23:16,686 00:23:19,731 we would worry, at times, about the kids being home we would worry, at times, about the kids being home
406 00:23:19,815 00:23:23,193 so we thought something we could do was get them involved in sports. so we thought something we could do was get them involved in sports.
407 00:23:23,276 00:23:25,487 Drop them off at the Little League field or the gym Drop them off at the Little League field or the gym
408 00:23:25,570 00:23:27,322 and keep 'em involved in the community. and keep 'em involved in the community.
409 00:23:29,616 00:23:31,660 [Jordan] My parents were trying to keep me busy. [Jordan] My parents were trying to keep me busy.
410 00:23:32,661 00:23:36,498 They always wanted all of us to play organized sports They always wanted all of us to play organized sports
411 00:23:36,581 00:23:39,126 so that we learn more about life. so that we learn more about life.
412 00:23:39,918 00:23:43,171 At the time, you had racism all over North Carolina, At the time, you had racism all over North Carolina,
413 00:23:43,255 00:23:45,215 all over, you know, the United States. all over, you know, the United States.
414 00:23:45,799 00:23:47,467 And there was a lot of it around there. And there was a lot of it around there.
415 00:23:47,551 00:23:52,139 So, as a kid, it was like, "Okay, this is where I don't want to be. So, as a kid, it was like, "Okay, this is where I don't want to be.
416 00:23:52,222 00:23:54,224 I want to excel outside of this." I want to excel outside of this."
417 00:23:54,307 00:23:58,061 So my motivation was to be something outside of Wilmington. So my motivation was to be something outside of Wilmington.
418 00:23:58,145 00:24:01,481 For me, it became athletics. For me, it became athletics.
419 00:24:03,066 00:24:05,569 [Larry] We used to compete an awful lot in the backyard. [Larry] We used to compete an awful lot in the backyard.
420 00:24:05,652 00:24:10,866 My brothers hated losing but not on the same level like me, My brothers hated losing but not on the same level like me,
421 00:24:10,949 00:24:14,035 because if you beat me back then, we had to fight. because if you beat me back then, we had to fight.
422 00:24:14,119 00:24:15,829 And that's just the way I was. And that's just the way I was.
423 00:24:16,413 00:24:18,623 They were so competitive between the two of 'em. They were so competitive between the two of 'em.
424 00:24:19,332 00:24:22,127 Matter of fact, at that time, it might be said Matter of fact, at that time, it might be said
425 00:24:22,210 00:24:24,337 that Larry was the best basketball player. that Larry was the best basketball player.
426 00:24:24,921 00:24:27,132 My father pushed, he pushed everybody. My father pushed, he pushed everybody.
427 00:24:27,215 00:24:31,052 And he had the tendency, if he felt you weren't doing the best you could, And he had the tendency, if he felt you weren't doing the best you could,
428 00:24:31,678 00:24:33,972 he would find a way to push you harder. he would find a way to push you harder.
429 00:24:34,389 00:24:35,765 And that really drove Michael, And that really drove Michael,
430 00:24:35,849 00:24:37,726 because Larry was pretty good at quite a bit. because Larry was pretty good at quite a bit.
431 00:24:38,518 00:24:40,979 I don't think, from a competitive standpoint, I don't think, from a competitive standpoint,
432 00:24:41,062 00:24:44,941 I would be here without the confrontations with my brother. I would be here without the confrontations with my brother.
433 00:24:45,775 00:24:48,528 When you come to blows with someone you absolutely love... When you come to blows with someone you absolutely love...
434 00:24:49,446 00:24:51,490 that's igniting every fire within you. that's igniting every fire within you.
435 00:24:53,074 00:24:56,369 And I always felt like I was fighting Larry for my father's attention. And I always felt like I was fighting Larry for my father's attention.
436 00:24:57,120 00:24:59,039 I'm a do-it-yourselfer around the house. I'm a do-it-yourselfer around the house.
437 00:24:59,122 00:25:00,707 So, I could take Larry out So, I could take Larry out
438 00:25:00,790 00:25:03,460 and he was fascinated by fixing things with his hands. and he was fascinated by fixing things with his hands.
439 00:25:03,543 00:25:04,794 Took a lot of pride in it. Took a lot of pride in it.
440 00:25:04,878 00:25:07,589 Michael would be out, you'd say, "Give me a Phillips screwdriver." Michael would be out, you'd say, "Give me a Phillips screwdriver."
441 00:25:07,672 00:25:09,216 He might give you a pair of pliers. He might give you a pair of pliers.
442 00:25:09,299 00:25:11,736 And I guess I was a little short patient with him and I'd say, And I guess I was a little short patient with him and I'd say,
443 00:25:11,760 00:25:13,512 "Get back in the house with your mom, boy. "Get back in the house with your mom, boy.
444 00:25:13,595 00:25:16,223 You're never going to be anything. Just go back with your mom." You're never going to be anything. Just go back with your mom."
445 00:25:16,723 00:25:18,975 When you're going through it, it's traumatic, When you're going through it, it's traumatic,
446 00:25:19,059 00:25:22,854 because I want that, you know, I want that approval. because I want that, you know, I want that approval.
447 00:25:22,938 00:25:24,356 I want that type of confidence. I want that type of confidence.
448 00:25:24,439 00:25:27,067 So my determination got even greater So my determination got even greater
449 00:25:27,150 00:25:31,029 to be as good, if not better, than my brother. to be as good, if not better, than my brother.
450 00:25:40,330 00:25:41,790 [Coley] I met him in tryouts, [Coley] I met him in tryouts,
451 00:25:42,582 00:25:45,669 but there was nothing particularly outstanding in tryouts. but there was nothing particularly outstanding in tryouts.
452 00:25:45,752 00:25:47,754 He did not make the varsity team He did not make the varsity team
453 00:25:47,837 00:25:49,673 as a sophomore. as a sophomore.
454 00:25:50,423 00:25:52,801 [Jordan] When I got home and I told my mother I was cut, [Jordan] When I got home and I told my mother I was cut,
455 00:25:52,884 00:25:55,720 I was demoralized, I didn't want to play any more sports. I was demoralized, I didn't want to play any more sports.
456 00:25:55,804 00:25:57,931 I felt like the coach didn't like me. I felt like the coach didn't like me.
457 00:25:58,640 00:26:02,143 He was devastated. He came home upset, crying. He was devastated. He came home upset, crying.
458 00:26:02,227 00:26:06,231 And we both cried, 'cause I knew he wanted to really compete with the other guys. And we both cried, 'cause I knew he wanted to really compete with the other guys.
459 00:26:06,898 00:26:11,903 My words to him was, "If you really want it, you work hard over the summer." My words to him was, "If you really want it, you work hard over the summer."
460 00:26:12,821 00:26:14,197 And he did that summer. And he did that summer.
461 00:26:14,281 00:26:19,286 He focused, he would practice all day. That basketball never left his hand. He focused, he would practice all day. That basketball never left his hand.
462 00:26:19,369 00:26:21,246 If you wanna bring out the best in Michael, If you wanna bring out the best in Michael,
463 00:26:21,329 00:26:22,581 tell him he can't do something. tell him he can't do something.
464 00:26:22,664 00:26:25,375 Or he can't do it as good as somebody else and, uh, Or he can't do it as good as somebody else and, uh,
465 00:26:25,458 00:26:29,254 I think that he takes it as a personal challenge to go out and do it, I think that he takes it as a personal challenge to go out and do it,
466 00:26:29,337 00:26:30,547 just to prove you wrong. just to prove you wrong.
467 00:26:31,673 00:26:36,052 Mike's improvement from his sophomore year to his junior year was tremendous. Mike's improvement from his sophomore year to his junior year was tremendous.
468 00:26:36,136 00:26:38,513 A lot of it had to do with his size. A lot of it had to do with his size.
469 00:26:38,597 00:26:42,809 He was about 5'10" or 5'11". He came back about 6'3" that fall. He was about 5'10" or 5'11". He came back about 6'3" that fall.
470 00:26:43,476 00:26:45,746 [Lynch] He had great guard skills. He always played guard. [Lynch] He had great guard skills. He always played guard.
471 00:26:45,770 00:26:47,314 He always handled the ball. He always handled the ball.
472 00:26:47,397 00:26:49,482 And now becoming, you know, 6'3 ", 6'4", And now becoming, you know, 6'3 ", 6'4",
473 00:26:50,317 00:26:52,777 that just made him into a much better ball player. that just made him into a much better ball player.
474 00:26:54,321 00:26:56,740 We knew that he was special. We knew that he was special.
475 00:26:58,325 00:27:01,536 The athletic director of Hanover County Schools called us and said, The athletic director of Hanover County Schools called us and said,
476 00:27:01,620 00:27:04,289 "I've got a guy down here I think may have a chance." "I've got a guy down here I think may have a chance."
477 00:27:04,372 00:27:06,207 And that was Mike Jordan. And that was Mike Jordan.
478 00:27:07,167 00:27:10,128 And so we invited him to our basketball camp. And so we invited him to our basketball camp.
479 00:27:11,296 00:27:15,133 When he got here, we knew of him, we'd heard he's pretty good. When he got here, we knew of him, we'd heard he's pretty good.
480 00:27:15,800 00:27:18,800 Five days later, when he left, we thought he was the best player in America. Five days later, when he left, we thought he was the best player in America.
481 00:27:46,122 00:27:48,722 [Jordan] It was the third game of the season in the second season. [Jordan] It was the third game of the season in the second season.
482 00:27:49,542 00:27:52,629 We're playing Golden State. I go up for a lob... We're playing Golden State. I go up for a lob...
483 00:27:52,712 00:27:54,712 [commentator] Bulls on the run to Michael Jordan... [commentator] Bulls on the run to Michael Jordan...
484 00:27:54,756 00:27:57,801 ...and when I landed, I landed flat-footed. ...and when I landed, I landed flat-footed.
485 00:27:57,884 00:28:00,428 [commentator] Looks like Michael came out limping a little bit. [commentator] Looks like Michael came out limping a little bit.
486 00:28:00,512 00:28:03,973 He's a little ginger on that ankle. He had hurt it a little earlier. He's a little ginger on that ankle. He had hurt it a little earlier.
487 00:28:04,849 00:28:09,270 When they did the CAT scan, it was a clear break, and... When they did the CAT scan, it was a clear break, and...
488 00:28:10,021 00:28:11,022 I was done. I was done.
489 00:28:12,148 00:28:14,067 Last year's Rookie of the Year Michael Jordan Last year's Rookie of the Year Michael Jordan
490 00:28:14,150 00:28:15,568 out with a broken left foot. out with a broken left foot.
491 00:28:18,613 00:28:20,865 [Jordan] I was devastated because I never got hurt. [Jordan] I was devastated because I never got hurt.
492 00:28:20,949 00:28:24,494 I'm in a cast. I couldn't do anything. I was anxious. I'm in a cast. I couldn't do anything. I was anxious.
493 00:28:25,370 00:28:27,747 I'm pretty sure I was irritable to a lot of people. I'm pretty sure I was irritable to a lot of people.
494 00:28:28,665 00:28:31,876 [Hefferon] He broke this bone, right in the middle. [Hefferon] He broke this bone, right in the middle.
495 00:28:32,544 00:28:34,504 It's an area of the body It's an area of the body
496 00:28:34,587 00:28:38,967 that may not heal very rapidly because of the poor blood supply. that may not heal very rapidly because of the poor blood supply.
497 00:28:40,468 00:28:44,264 The healing time can vary from six weeks, 12 weeks or even longer. The healing time can vary from six weeks, 12 weeks or even longer.
498 00:28:44,347 00:28:46,933 And occasionally, that fracture does not heal. And occasionally, that fracture does not heal.
499 00:28:47,016 00:28:50,437 [Telander] Michael had never missed a game, through high school, [Telander] Michael had never missed a game, through high school,
500 00:28:50,520 00:28:53,815 college and the NBA, so far. college and the NBA, so far.
501 00:28:54,357 00:28:56,151 All of a sudden, he misses 64. All of a sudden, he misses 64.
502 00:28:56,776 00:28:59,988 [Jordan] I'm doing nothing, watching games, sitting on the bench. [Jordan] I'm doing nothing, watching games, sitting on the bench.
503 00:29:00,488 00:29:02,741 My mother and father came up and spent a lot of time. My mother and father came up and spent a lot of time.
504 00:29:03,867 00:29:06,286 [Deloris] You could not keep him on that bench. [Deloris] You could not keep him on that bench.
505 00:29:06,369 00:29:10,039 Mr. Jordan and myself is saying, "Michael, you are not ready." Mr. Jordan and myself is saying, "Michael, you are not ready."
506 00:29:10,457 00:29:14,127 He said, "I don't think you can tell me. I know when my body's ready." He said, "I don't think you can tell me. I know when my body's ready."
507 00:29:14,210 00:29:15,795 "The doctor knows when you're ready." "The doctor knows when you're ready."
508 00:29:17,046 00:29:19,048 [Jordan] I was itching to do something. [Jordan] I was itching to do something.
509 00:29:21,134 00:29:22,134 So... So...
510 00:29:22,761 00:29:24,971 I talked the Bulls into letting me go back to college. I talked the Bulls into letting me go back to college.
511 00:29:26,723 00:29:29,267 I just started going to the gym, shooting. I just started going to the gym, shooting.
512 00:29:29,934 00:29:31,561 Then I started playing one-on-one, Then I started playing one-on-one,
513 00:29:31,644 00:29:34,814 and then I started playing two-on-two, then I started playing three-on-three. and then I started playing two-on-two, then I started playing three-on-three.
514 00:29:34,898 00:29:38,359 Next, I was playing five-on-five, and the Bulls never knew I was doing it. Next, I was playing five-on-five, and the Bulls never knew I was doing it.
515 00:29:39,444 00:29:42,572 And when I got back with the Bulls... And when I got back with the Bulls...
516 00:29:44,783 00:29:50,997 my calf muscles in my injured calf were stronger than my uninjured calf. my calf muscles in my injured calf were stronger than my uninjured calf.
517 00:29:51,080 00:29:53,500 So the first thing they said, "What the hell you been doing? So the first thing they said, "What the hell you been doing?
518 00:29:53,583 00:29:54,626 Blah blah blah." Blah blah blah."
519 00:29:54,709 00:29:57,629 No, we didn't really know he was playing until he came back and told us. No, we didn't really know he was playing until he came back and told us.
520 00:29:57,712 00:29:59,005 When Michael came back, he said, When Michael came back, he said,
521 00:29:59,088 00:30:01,568 "I've been playing an hour and a half a day for the last week." "I've been playing an hour and a half a day for the last week."
522 00:30:01,633 00:30:03,176 And after my heart dropped out, And after my heart dropped out,
523 00:30:03,259 00:30:05,303 [chuckles] I just dropped down and, oh, my God. [chuckles] I just dropped down and, oh, my God.
524 00:30:05,386 00:30:09,390 I gradually worked my way up to a point where I'm playing five-on-five in a game. I gradually worked my way up to a point where I'm playing five-on-five in a game.
525 00:30:10,016 00:30:14,270 And I got the confidence that the foot is completely healed and I can play on it. And I got the confidence that the foot is completely healed and I can play on it.
526 00:30:14,354 00:30:19,609 Michael asked, "If I play, what percentage is there that I'm gonna get hurt again?" Michael asked, "If I play, what percentage is there that I'm gonna get hurt again?"
527 00:30:19,692 00:30:21,569 Doctor said, "10%." Doctor said, "10%."
528 00:30:22,153 00:30:24,864 And I just lost it. I said, "Look, it's 10% chance, And I just lost it. I said, "Look, it's 10% chance,
529 00:30:24,948 00:30:27,200 but it's 90% chance that I won't." but it's 90% chance that I won't."
530 00:30:27,784 00:30:29,744 And then I chimed in to the doctors, And then I chimed in to the doctors,
531 00:30:29,828 00:30:32,163 "What happens if the 10% kicks in?" "What happens if the 10% kicks in?"
532 00:30:32,247 00:30:34,582 And they said, "Then his career would be over." And they said, "Then his career would be over."
533 00:30:34,666 00:30:37,001 Well, everybody's just thinking about the negative. Well, everybody's just thinking about the negative.
534 00:30:37,085 00:30:40,922 While I think the glass is half full, everybody's thinking it's half empty. While I think the glass is half full, everybody's thinking it's half empty.
535 00:30:41,005 00:30:45,677 So, I said to Michael, "You're not understanding the risk-reward ratio. So, I said to Michael, "You're not understanding the risk-reward ratio.
536 00:30:45,760 00:30:50,306 If you had a terrible headache and I gave you a bottle of pills, If you had a terrible headache and I gave you a bottle of pills,
537 00:30:50,390 00:30:54,018 and nine of the pills would cure you and one of the pills would kill you, and nine of the pills would cure you and one of the pills would kill you,
538 00:30:55,103 00:30:56,271 would you take a pill?" would you take a pill?"
539 00:30:57,021 00:31:00,233 I look at him and I said, "Depends on how fucking bad the headache is." I look at him and I said, "Depends on how fucking bad the headache is."
540 00:31:00,692 00:31:02,777 From Jerry Reinsdorf's perspective, From Jerry Reinsdorf's perspective,
541 00:31:03,778 00:31:06,447 a pure business decision, you don't play the guy. a pure business decision, you don't play the guy.
542 00:31:07,073 00:31:09,868 Here's your franchise. Literally, your franchise. Here's your franchise. Literally, your franchise.
543 00:31:09,951 00:31:12,954 In my mind, he should not risk coming back In my mind, he should not risk coming back
544 00:31:13,830 00:31:15,915 because we weren't winning a championship anyway. because we weren't winning a championship anyway.
545 00:31:15,999 00:31:19,043 Why even take a 10% risk that your career is going to be over? Why even take a 10% risk that your career is going to be over?
546 00:31:19,127 00:31:20,336 He didn't see it that way. He didn't see it that way.
547 00:31:20,420 00:31:24,507 I'm starting to think, "Well, maybe it's not me playing, I'm starting to think, "Well, maybe it's not me playing,
548 00:31:24,591 00:31:26,509 as opposed to us trying to lose games as opposed to us trying to lose games
549 00:31:26,593 00:31:28,428 so we can move into the lottery." so we can move into the lottery."
550 00:31:28,511 00:31:30,364 [reporter 1] Is there something to this business [reporter 1] Is there something to this business
551 00:31:30,388 00:31:32,408 of wanting a better position? Getting in the lottery? of wanting a better position? Getting in the lottery?
552 00:31:32,432 00:31:34,809 I hope not. That just shows a losing attitude I hope not. That just shows a losing attitude
553 00:31:34,893 00:31:38,104 and not just on the team, but in the front office also. and not just on the team, but in the front office also.
554 00:31:38,187 00:31:40,189 We should always go out and try to win. We should always go out and try to win.
555 00:31:40,273 00:31:42,650 [reporter 2] Exasperated Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf [reporter 2] Exasperated Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf
556 00:31:42,734 00:31:44,527 finally agreed to a compromise finally agreed to a compromise
557 00:31:44,611 00:31:46,112 which would allow his star to play which would allow his star to play
558 00:31:46,195 00:31:48,573 a specified number of minutes in each game. a specified number of minutes in each game.
559 00:31:48,656 00:31:51,409 We reached a compromise and we allowed him to come back We reached a compromise and we allowed him to come back
560 00:31:51,492 00:31:53,244 and play seven minutes each half. and play seven minutes each half.
561 00:31:53,328 00:31:54,954 So they let me go back and play, So they let me go back and play,
562 00:31:55,038 00:31:57,165 and then they put a time restriction on me. and then they put a time restriction on me.
563 00:31:58,833 00:32:01,233 [commentator] Jordan with ten points in limited playing time. [commentator] Jordan with ten points in limited playing time.
564 00:32:01,294 00:32:05,256 [Telander] They had him on seven minute per half time limit, with a stopwatch. [Telander] They had him on seven minute per half time limit, with a stopwatch.
565 00:32:06,174 00:32:07,842 - [whistle blows] - [commentator] Short. - [whistle blows] - [commentator] Short.
566 00:32:09,218 00:32:11,304 That counts for Michael! That counts for Michael!
567 00:32:12,513 00:32:15,224 He could be almost in mid-shot, it's like... tweet. He could be almost in mid-shot, it's like... tweet.
568 00:32:15,308 00:32:16,351 [buzzer sounds] [buzzer sounds]
569 00:32:17,644 00:32:18,645 "Jordan, you're out." "Jordan, you're out."
570 00:32:18,728 00:32:20,772 [commentator 1] Michael Jordan sat down. [commentator 1] Michael Jordan sat down.
571 00:32:21,940 00:32:25,568 [commentator 2] He doesn't seem happy. He's fired up and ready to go. [chuckles] [commentator 2] He doesn't seem happy. He's fired up and ready to go. [chuckles]
572 00:32:25,652 00:32:27,403 They're gonna have to hold him back. They're gonna have to hold him back.
573 00:32:28,571 00:32:31,131 [reporter] What was the rationale for the seven minutes per half? [reporter] What was the rationale for the seven minutes per half?
574 00:32:31,157 00:32:35,203 Well, we felt that the doctors had said a certain amount of time. Well, we felt that the doctors had said a certain amount of time.
575 00:32:35,286 00:32:38,539 We felt we were gonna try to make the odds right We felt we were gonna try to make the odds right
576 00:32:38,623 00:32:40,875 in a situation where we would reduce the odds. in a situation where we would reduce the odds.
577 00:32:41,751 00:32:43,878 [Jordan] At the time, the coach was Stan Albeck. [Jordan] At the time, the coach was Stan Albeck.
578 00:32:44,921 00:32:47,090 So, I said, "Stan, fuck these guys, man. So, I said, "Stan, fuck these guys, man.
579 00:32:47,882 00:32:50,885 Give me the most important seven minutes that you can think about." Give me the most important seven minutes that you can think about."
580 00:32:52,095 00:32:55,765 So, now we start winning and we start getting into the playoff picture. So, now we start winning and we start getting into the playoff picture.
581 00:32:57,392 00:32:58,977 We get to a pivotal game. We get to a pivotal game.
582 00:32:59,686 00:33:02,271 We go and play Indiana in Indiana. We go and play Indiana in Indiana.
583 00:33:03,064 00:33:06,150 We need this game because it puts us in a position to make the playoffs. We need this game because it puts us in a position to make the playoffs.
584 00:33:07,026 00:33:11,447 Stan got berated, saying, "If you put him in one second Stan got berated, saying, "If you put him in one second
585 00:33:11,531 00:33:14,117 more than 14 minutes, you're fired on the spot." more than 14 minutes, you're fired on the spot."
586 00:33:14,200 00:33:16,160 [commentator] Jordan around an Oakley screen, [commentator] Jordan around an Oakley screen,
587 00:33:16,244 00:33:17,870 lean-in jumper, left baseline, is in... lean-in jumper, left baseline, is in...
588 00:33:19,288 00:33:21,833 [Jordan] For 14 minutes, I just go absolutely ballistic. [Jordan] For 14 minutes, I just go absolutely ballistic.
589 00:33:22,417 00:33:24,627 And we were in a position to win. And we were in a position to win.
590 00:33:24,711 00:33:26,921 [commentator] On the drive, in from the left, [commentator] On the drive, in from the left,
591 00:33:27,005 00:33:29,382 Eighteen-footer good. Bulls have the lead... Eighteen-footer good. Bulls have the lead...
592 00:33:29,465 00:33:32,635 Outside, Richardson, right side, Fleming, 20-footer, good! Outside, Richardson, right side, Fleming, 20-footer, good!
593 00:33:33,970 00:33:34,970 [whistle blows] [whistle blows]
594 00:33:34,971 00:33:38,599 Thirty-one seconds left. The Bulls take time. Down one... Thirty-one seconds left. The Bulls take time. Down one...
595 00:33:38,683 00:33:41,102 All of a sudden, my time is up. All of a sudden, my time is up.
596 00:33:41,185 00:33:43,688 I don't know if Jerry came down from the stands to say, I don't know if Jerry came down from the stands to say,
597 00:33:43,771 00:33:46,566 "Get him out of the game." There's, like, 30 seconds left. "Get him out of the game." There's, like, 30 seconds left.
598 00:33:46,649 00:33:48,443 [commentator] Thirty-one seconds to go. [commentator] Thirty-one seconds to go.
599 00:33:49,527 00:33:51,029 Michael's time is up. Michael's time is up.
600 00:33:51,571 00:33:53,281 [Jordan] I'm just like... I'm angry. [Jordan] I'm just like... I'm angry.
601 00:33:53,364 00:33:56,409 [commentator] What a sensational performance... [commentator] What a sensational performance...
602 00:33:56,492 00:33:58,369 [Vancil] Michael saw it for what it was. [Vancil] Michael saw it for what it was.
603 00:33:59,495 00:34:01,956 You play the game to win. Period. You play the game to win. Period.
604 00:34:02,790 00:34:04,876 "I don't want to hear about your draft pick. "I don't want to hear about your draft pick.
605 00:34:04,959 00:34:07,128 I don't want to hear about missing the playoffs I don't want to hear about missing the playoffs
606 00:34:07,211 00:34:08,463 and how good that would be. and how good that would be.
607 00:34:09,005 00:34:10,631 That's not how you play the game." That's not how you play the game."
608 00:34:11,215 00:34:13,593 I'm begging Stan, "Put me in the game. I'm begging Stan, "Put me in the game.
609 00:34:13,676 00:34:17,472 Come on, there's only 14 fuckin' seconds, Stan... 13 seconds. Come on, there's only 14 fuckin' seconds, Stan... 13 seconds.
610 00:34:17,555 00:34:19,140 Put me in for 13 seconds." Put me in for 13 seconds."
611 00:34:19,223 00:34:21,559 He said, "MJ, I can't put you in. I'll lose my job." He said, "MJ, I can't put you in. I'll lose my job."
612 00:34:22,143 00:34:24,395 It fueled the whole theory that, It fueled the whole theory that,
613 00:34:24,479 00:34:26,481 here, we're trying to not make the playoffs here, we're trying to not make the playoffs
614 00:34:26,564 00:34:27,940 so we can get a better draft pick. so we can get a better draft pick.
615 00:34:28,399 00:34:30,568 But I vowed to make the playoffs every year, But I vowed to make the playoffs every year,
616 00:34:30,651 00:34:32,862 and this is a chance for us to make the playoffs. and this is a chance for us to make the playoffs.
617 00:34:35,573 00:34:38,284 It's our ball, there's 13 seconds left. It's our ball, there's 13 seconds left.
618 00:34:41,037 00:34:44,123 Lo and behold, John Paxson hits a game-winning shot. Lo and behold, John Paxson hits a game-winning shot.
619 00:34:44,665 00:34:47,043 [commentator] Pax comes down with a jumping one-hander... [commentator] Pax comes down with a jumping one-hander...
620 00:34:47,126 00:34:49,712 Fortunately, I get lucky and throw some shot in Fortunately, I get lucky and throw some shot in
621 00:34:49,796 00:34:51,380 and we end up winning the game. and we end up winning the game.
622 00:34:51,464 00:34:55,468 [commentator] The Bulls win it! The Bulls hang on and win by one! [commentator] The Bulls win it! The Bulls hang on and win by one!
623 00:34:55,551 00:34:58,721 What a big victory by the Bulls! What a big victory by the Bulls!
624 00:34:59,472 00:35:01,072 [Paxson] We went into the locker room... [Paxson] We went into the locker room...
625 00:35:02,016 00:35:03,935 Stan locked that door. Stan locked that door.
626 00:35:04,018 00:35:07,188 And Jerry Krause came, wanting to get in at the end of the game And Jerry Krause came, wanting to get in at the end of the game
627 00:35:07,271 00:35:08,791 and Stan wouldn't let him in. [chuckles] and Stan wouldn't let him in. [chuckles]
628 00:35:08,815 00:35:09,816 You know, it was... You know, it was...
629 00:35:09,899 00:35:10,942 It was... It was...
630 00:35:12,193 00:35:14,695 It wasn't a good... It wasn't a good situation. It wasn't a good... It wasn't a good situation.
631 00:35:16,155 00:35:19,075 [Vancil] The mistrust Michael had with management, [Vancil] The mistrust Michael had with management,
632 00:35:19,158 00:35:20,910 specifically with Jerry Krause, specifically with Jerry Krause,
633 00:35:21,452 00:35:26,666 was he believed that they violated the most fundamental aspect of sport, was he believed that they violated the most fundamental aspect of sport,
634 00:35:26,749 00:35:29,460 of, I would argue, the most fundamental aspect of, I would argue, the most fundamental aspect
635 00:35:29,544 00:35:31,462 of the way Michael conducted his life. of the way Michael conducted his life.
636 00:35:31,546 00:35:35,383 You do it at the highest level and you do it to win, all the time. You do it at the highest level and you do it to win, all the time.
637 00:35:36,759 00:35:38,386 From that moment on, From that moment on,
638 00:35:38,469 00:35:43,766 Michael's relationship with the ownership and management was deeply soured. Michael's relationship with the ownership and management was deeply soured.
639 00:35:44,767 00:35:45,935 That never went away. That never went away.
640 00:35:47,562 00:35:51,274 [reporter] No one could limit the power and the glory of Michael Jordan. [reporter] No one could limit the power and the glory of Michael Jordan.
641 00:35:51,357 00:35:54,569 The Bulls made a late-season rush into a playoff berth, The Bulls made a late-season rush into a playoff berth,
642 00:35:54,652 00:35:56,654 which, ironically, cost them a chance which, ironically, cost them a chance
643 00:35:56,737 00:35:59,490 at one of the first seven choices in next year's draft. at one of the first seven choices in next year's draft.
644 00:35:59,574 00:36:01,214 We end up making the playoffs having a... We end up making the playoffs having a...
645 00:36:01,242 00:36:03,720 I believe we won only 30 games in the regular season that year. I believe we won only 30 games in the regular season that year.
646 00:36:03,744 00:36:04,829 We end up the eighth seed. We end up the eighth seed.
647 00:36:04,912 00:36:10,293 Jordan essentially wills his team, with a losing record, into the playoffs. Jordan essentially wills his team, with a losing record, into the playoffs.
648 00:36:10,376 00:36:12,003 And what is their reward? And what is their reward?
649 00:36:12,086 00:36:15,006 Well, they get to play the almighty Boston Celtics Well, they get to play the almighty Boston Celtics
650 00:36:15,631 00:36:18,009 with four guys who'd make the Hall of Fame. with four guys who'd make the Hall of Fame.
651 00:36:19,385 00:36:23,806 [Bird] We had Parish, McHale and Walton. [Bird] We had Parish, McHale and Walton.
652 00:36:24,807 00:36:29,020 All of 'em were about seven foot tall, that could score, run, defend. All of 'em were about seven foot tall, that could score, run, defend.
653 00:36:29,103 00:36:32,732 We had Danny Ainge and Dennis Johnson, our guards, and I was a small forward. We had Danny Ainge and Dennis Johnson, our guards, and I was a small forward.
654 00:36:32,815 00:36:36,652 So, we had a big team, and, uh, we were deep, we were big, So, we had a big team, and, uh, we were deep, we were big,
655 00:36:36,736 00:36:40,323 and of all the teams I've been on, there's no question, that was the best team. and of all the teams I've been on, there's no question, that was the best team.
656 00:36:40,406 00:36:42,658 That setting, against that team... That setting, against that team...
657 00:36:43,242 00:36:45,786 That's what you play for, you get to be in those situations. That's what you play for, you get to be in those situations.
658 00:36:45,870 00:36:48,015 [commentator] The Celtics have won 31 in a row at home. [commentator] The Celtics have won 31 in a row at home.
659 00:36:48,039 00:36:52,043 They beat Chicago six times this year in the regular season. They beat Chicago six times this year in the regular season.
660 00:36:52,126 00:36:55,338 Michael had this supreme confidence about him. Michael had this supreme confidence about him.
661 00:36:55,421 00:36:56,839 He loved the big stage. He loved the big stage.
662 00:36:56,923 00:37:00,134 [Jordan] This is the opportunity to play against Larry Bird and the Celtics. [Jordan] This is the opportunity to play against Larry Bird and the Celtics.
663 00:37:00,760 00:37:02,053 Man, this is showtime. Man, this is showtime.
664 00:37:02,136 00:37:04,555 Well, Michael was coming off a pretty serious injury Well, Michael was coming off a pretty serious injury
665 00:37:04,639 00:37:06,098 and we didn't know what to expect. and we didn't know what to expect.
666 00:37:06,182 00:37:09,143 Michael Jordan is back and there are no limits to his playing time. Michael Jordan is back and there are no limits to his playing time.
667 00:37:09,227 00:37:11,187 He's really ready to cut loose. He's really ready to cut loose.
668 00:37:11,270 00:37:13,481 [commentator 1] We're ready to go at the Boston Garden. [commentator 1] We're ready to go at the Boston Garden.
669 00:37:13,564 00:37:16,651 They took all the limitations off and it was like unleashing They took all the limitations off and it was like unleashing
670 00:37:17,360 00:37:18,444 a wild dog. a wild dog.
671 00:37:19,028 00:37:21,322 [commentator 1] Jordan hangs in the air, puts it down. [commentator 1] Jordan hangs in the air, puts it down.
672 00:37:22,198 00:37:24,158 Jordan, shot it from the baseline. Jordan, shot it from the baseline.
673 00:37:24,784 00:37:27,411 Jordan changed it in midair. Got it, nonetheless. Jordan changed it in midair. Got it, nonetheless.
674 00:37:27,495 00:37:31,290 Our whole thing was just, "Do what we can do to hold Michael down." Our whole thing was just, "Do what we can do to hold Michael down."
675 00:37:31,791 00:37:33,417 But you don't hold the great ones down. But you don't hold the great ones down.
676 00:37:33,501 00:37:37,171 [commentator 1] Michael Jordan wheels, fades, off-balance... [commentator 1] Michael Jordan wheels, fades, off-balance...
677 00:37:37,255 00:37:38,965 Absolutely amazing! Absolutely amazing!
678 00:37:39,757 00:37:40,758 Jordan beats Dennis. Jordan beats Dennis.
679 00:37:42,009 00:37:44,971 Carlisle has the unenviable task of playing Jordan. Carlisle has the unenviable task of playing Jordan.
680 00:37:45,972 00:37:47,473 Isn't that something? Isn't that something?
681 00:37:48,391 00:37:51,352 [commentator 2] I mean, Carlisle just wants his mommy. [chuckles] [commentator 2] I mean, Carlisle just wants his mommy. [chuckles]
682 00:37:53,104 00:37:55,982 Jordan with great anticipation. He's off to the races. Jordan with great anticipation. He's off to the races.
683 00:37:56,065 00:37:57,316 Watch this! Whoo-hoo! Watch this! Whoo-hoo!
684 00:37:58,526 00:38:01,237 We had a lot of guys in our league that could score a lot of points. We had a lot of guys in our league that could score a lot of points.
685 00:38:01,320 00:38:02,446 He took it to another level. He took it to another level.
686 00:38:02,530 00:38:05,866 We stuck with the game plan, and we end up winning the ball game. We stuck with the game plan, and we end up winning the ball game.
687 00:38:05,950 00:38:08,869 [commentator 1] McHale, Bird, Parish... And a foul... [commentator 1] McHale, Bird, Parish... And a foul...
688 00:38:09,954 00:38:11,163 There's the Celtics. There's the Celtics.
689 00:38:15,209 00:38:16,752 Who's your player of the game, John? Who's your player of the game, John?
690 00:38:16,836 00:38:18,671 [commentator 2] Hard to ignore Jordan tonight. [commentator 2] Hard to ignore Jordan tonight.
691 00:38:18,754 00:38:20,339 We chose him as our player of the game. We chose him as our player of the game.
692 00:38:20,423 00:38:22,633 Forty-nine points, four rebounds. Forty-nine points, four rebounds.
693 00:38:22,717 00:38:25,303 A spectacular individual effort by this guy. A spectacular individual effort by this guy.
694 00:38:25,386 00:38:28,389 Tough job for the Chicago team now and for Stan Albeck, Tough job for the Chicago team now and for Stan Albeck,
695 00:38:28,472 00:38:30,016 trying to get 'em ready for game two. trying to get 'em ready for game two.
696 00:38:30,099 00:38:31,559 They played so hard here tonight. They played so hard here tonight.
697 00:38:31,642 00:38:34,895 I remember game two. I'd played golf with Michael the day before. I remember game two. I'd played golf with Michael the day before.
698 00:38:38,566 00:38:41,235 It was Michael, Danny, Mike Carey and myself. It was Michael, Danny, Mike Carey and myself.
699 00:38:41,319 00:38:44,238 And Michael and Danny are giving it to each other back and forth. And Michael and Danny are giving it to each other back and forth.
700 00:38:45,364 00:38:48,242 [interviewer] Before game two, you played golf with Danny Ainge. [interviewer] Before game two, you played golf with Danny Ainge.
701 00:38:48,743 00:38:49,785 Mmm-hmm. Mmm-hmm.
702 00:38:52,538 00:38:53,539 Get through. Get through.
703 00:38:54,206 00:38:56,042 I cannot hit it today. I cannot hit it today.
704 00:38:56,876 00:39:00,880 I took a few bucks off of Michael that day and we're talking trash to each other. I took a few bucks off of Michael that day and we're talking trash to each other.
705 00:39:00,963 00:39:02,798 That might have been a mistake. [chuckles] That might have been a mistake. [chuckles]
706 00:39:05,217 00:39:06,218 [Jordan] Get it out. [Jordan] Get it out.
707 00:39:08,929 00:39:10,598 Pissing me off, man. Pissing me off, man.
708 00:39:10,681 00:39:14,310 We get done, we get in the car, we drop Danny off first. We get done, we get in the car, we drop Danny off first.
709 00:39:14,894 00:39:16,520 And, uh, Michael says, And, uh, Michael says,
710 00:39:16,604 00:39:19,190 "Tell your boy DJ I got something for him tomorrow." "Tell your boy DJ I got something for him tomorrow."
711 00:39:22,193 00:39:24,028 [Bird] The first game, the guy scores 49... [Bird] The first game, the guy scores 49...
712 00:39:25,279 00:39:27,239 but I don't think anyone expected, but I don't think anyone expected,
713 00:39:27,323 00:39:29,301 going into the next game, what was going to happen. going into the next game, what was going to happen.
714 00:39:29,325 00:39:31,452 ["I'm Bad" playing] ["I'm Bad" playing]
715 00:39:34,121 00:39:36,165 ♪ No rapper can rap quite like I can ♪ ♪ No rapper can rap quite like I can ♪
716 00:39:36,248 00:39:38,793 ♪ I'll take a musclebound man And put his face in the sand ♪ ♪ I'll take a musclebound man And put his face in the sand ♪
717 00:39:38,876 00:39:41,962 ♪ Not the last Mafioso, I'm a MC cop ♪ ♪ Not the last Mafioso, I'm a MC cop ♪
718 00:39:42,046 00:39:45,132 ♪ Make you say "Go LL" And do the wop ♪ ♪ Make you say "Go LL" And do the wop ♪
719 00:39:45,216 00:39:47,301 [Bird] He was scoring at will. Dunks, bankers. [Bird] He was scoring at will. Dunks, bankers.
720 00:39:47,385 00:39:49,178 He'd get in the middle and shoot over guys. He'd get in the middle and shoot over guys.
721 00:39:49,804 00:39:52,348 ♪ Trendsetter, I'm better My rhymes are good ♪ ♪ Trendsetter, I'm better My rhymes are good ♪
722 00:39:52,431 00:39:55,476 ♪ I got a gold nameplate that says "I wish you would" ♪ ♪ I got a gold nameplate that says "I wish you would" ♪
723 00:39:55,559 00:39:58,270 [Jordan] I played practically every minute in the second game. [Jordan] I played practically every minute in the second game.
724 00:39:58,354 00:39:59,354 I just never stopped. I just never stopped.
725 00:39:59,355 00:40:01,565 [commentator] On the switch. Bird guards Jordan. [commentator] On the switch. Bird guards Jordan.
726 00:40:01,649 00:40:03,025 Jordan hits the jumper anyway. Jordan hits the jumper anyway.
727 00:40:03,109 00:40:05,861 [Jordan] Stan Albeck kept putting me in isolated situations [Jordan] Stan Albeck kept putting me in isolated situations
728 00:40:05,945 00:40:08,781 and I just took advantage of my youth and my energy. and I just took advantage of my youth and my energy.
729 00:40:08,864 00:40:11,242 [commentator] Jordan uses his quickness and it works. [commentator] Jordan uses his quickness and it works.
730 00:40:11,325 00:40:14,328 Jordan with 31. Bullseye. Jordan with 31. Bullseye.
731 00:40:14,787 00:40:20,167 Jordan against Ainge, spins into the lane, scoops the shot up and draws the foul. Jordan against Ainge, spins into the lane, scoops the shot up and draws the foul.
732 00:40:21,043 00:40:23,796 We all took our cracks at him that day. It wasn't one guy. We all took our cracks at him that day. It wasn't one guy.
733 00:40:23,879 00:40:26,257 DJ was our best defensive player, DJ was our best defensive player,
734 00:40:26,340 00:40:30,010 and he picked up four fouls early in the third quarter. and he picked up four fouls early in the third quarter.
735 00:40:30,094 00:40:32,847 [commentator] Four fouls on Johnson. Welcome to the club. [commentator] Four fouls on Johnson. Welcome to the club.
736 00:40:32,930 00:40:36,392 I was on him for a while, Danny was on him, DJ was on him a lot. I was on him for a while, Danny was on him, DJ was on him a lot.
737 00:40:36,976 00:40:39,186 [Ainge] I remember laughing in the middle of the game [Ainge] I remember laughing in the middle of the game
738 00:40:39,270 00:40:42,440 because Walton was cursing me out because Walton was cursing me out
739 00:40:42,523 00:40:45,359 because he had to guard Jordan on a few occasions. because he had to guard Jordan on a few occasions.
740 00:40:45,443 00:40:48,154 [commentator] Walton with five. Next foul and he's gone... [commentator] Walton with five. Next foul and he's gone...
741 00:40:48,237 00:40:50,197 - Jordan isolated one-on-one... - [whistle blows] - Jordan isolated one-on-one... - [whistle blows]
742 00:40:50,906 00:40:51,822 Basket... Basket...
743 00:40:51,824 00:40:52,908 [Ainge] Walton fouled out. [Ainge] Walton fouled out.
744 00:40:52,992 00:40:56,579 [commentator] Jordan has shot 18 free throws and made 16. [commentator] Jordan has shot 18 free throws and made 16.
745 00:40:56,662 00:40:59,123 ♪ I eliminate punks Cut 'em up in chunks ♪ ♪ I eliminate punks Cut 'em up in chunks ♪
746 00:40:59,206 00:41:01,834 ♪ You were souped, you heard me And your ego shrunk ♪ ♪ You were souped, you heard me And your ego shrunk ♪
747 00:41:01,917 00:41:04,545 ♪ I'm devastating I'm so good it's a shame ♪ ♪ I'm devastating I'm so good it's a shame ♪
748 00:41:04,628 00:41:07,214 ♪ Cause I eat rappers like a cannibal They call me insane ♪ ♪ Cause I eat rappers like a cannibal They call me insane ♪
749 00:41:07,298 00:41:09,842 ♪ I'm as strong as a bull Of course you know why I pull ♪ ♪ I'm as strong as a bull Of course you know why I pull ♪
750 00:41:09,925 00:41:11,886 ♪ I enjoy what I'm doing... ♪ ♪ I enjoy what I'm doing... ♪
751 00:41:11,969 00:41:13,387 [commentator] Oh, my! [commentator] Oh, my!
752 00:41:13,471 00:41:15,306 48 for Michael Jordan. 48 for Michael Jordan.
753 00:41:21,437 00:41:24,815 You liked 49 on Thursday. How about 50 on Sunday? You liked 49 on Thursday. How about 50 on Sunday?
754 00:41:24,899 00:41:26,400 Pull-up shot on Parish, good. Pull-up shot on Parish, good.
755 00:41:26,484 00:41:27,776 Fifty-two for Jordan... Fifty-two for Jordan...
756 00:41:27,860 00:41:31,030 Michael, right base-line jumper... good! And a foul called. Michael, right base-line jumper... good! And a foul called.
757 00:41:31,113 00:41:34,408 Michael shooting for the tie with no time left. Michael shooting for the tie with no time left.
758 00:41:36,452 00:41:38,787 Overtime in Boston Garden! Overtime in Boston Garden!
759 00:41:38,871 00:41:40,623 Jordan hits it. Fifty-six for Jordan. Jordan hits it. Fifty-six for Jordan.
760 00:41:40,706 00:41:45,461 Sixty-one points to tie all-time single-game playoff record... Sixty-one points to tie all-time single-game playoff record...
761 00:41:45,586 00:41:47,671 Got it! Sixty-three for Jordan! Got it! Sixty-three for Jordan!
762 00:41:47,755 00:41:50,966 A new NBA record has been set in the Boston Garden. A new NBA record has been set in the Boston Garden.
763 00:41:51,050 00:41:52,635 [Bird] It was a high-scoring game. [Bird] It was a high-scoring game.
764 00:41:53,052 00:41:55,012 Fortunately for us, we had the last shot. Fortunately for us, we had the last shot.
765 00:41:56,013 00:41:57,806 [commentator] Bird, pick and roll to Parish. [commentator] Bird, pick and roll to Parish.
766 00:41:58,766 00:41:59,767 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
767 00:42:00,726 00:42:03,896 [commentator] And a hard-fought victory for the Boston Celtics [commentator] And a hard-fought victory for the Boston Celtics
768 00:42:03,979 00:42:05,397 to take a 2-0 lead. to take a 2-0 lead.
769 00:42:05,481 00:42:09,026 We were fortunate to win that game, but Michael put on a show. We were fortunate to win that game, but Michael put on a show.
770 00:42:09,109 00:42:11,153 [commentator] Our Miller Lite most valuable player [commentator] Our Miller Lite most valuable player
771 00:42:11,237 00:42:12,905 of the game is Michael Jordan, of the game is Michael Jordan,
772 00:42:12,988 00:42:17,409 with an all-time record 63 points in a single playoff game. with an all-time record 63 points in a single playoff game.
773 00:42:17,493 00:42:18,933 [Bird] We end up winning the series, [Bird] We end up winning the series,
774 00:42:18,994 00:42:22,331 but it was an incredible, incredible playoff performance. but it was an incredible, incredible playoff performance.
775 00:42:22,414 00:42:26,043 I've never seen it before and I had never seen it after. I've never seen it before and I had never seen it after.
776 00:42:26,126 00:42:29,463 That wasn't Michael Jordan out there. That was God disguised as Michael Jordan. That wasn't Michael Jordan out there. That was God disguised as Michael Jordan.
777 00:42:33,217 00:42:35,344 Nobody like him. [laughs] Nobody like him. [laughs]
778 00:42:35,427 00:42:37,721 Point blank. I never seen nobody play like he plays, Point blank. I never seen nobody play like he plays,
779 00:42:37,805 00:42:40,849 and, uh, you can include all of 'em. and, uh, you can include all of 'em.
780 00:42:40,933 00:42:44,937 Jordan is the most talented player in the NBA... Jordan is the most talented player in the NBA...
781 00:42:45,813 00:42:48,190 uh, by far. uh, by far.
782 00:42:48,274 00:42:50,693 Guys like myself and Larry, who knew the game, Guys like myself and Larry, who knew the game,
783 00:42:50,776 00:42:53,279 who knew championship basketball, who knew championship basketball,
784 00:42:53,362 00:42:55,990 we knew the guy was coming. Right? we knew the guy was coming. Right?
785 00:42:56,073 00:42:59,660 He just needed the right horses to go along with him. He just needed the right horses to go along with him.
786 00:43:00,953 00:43:02,997 [Reinsdorf] We realized that Michael Jordan [Reinsdorf] We realized that Michael Jordan
787 00:43:03,080 00:43:05,291 was the greatest ball player in the NBA. was the greatest ball player in the NBA.
788 00:43:05,916 00:43:09,253 So, a year later, we basically rebuilt the entire team. So, a year later, we basically rebuilt the entire team.
789 00:43:09,837 00:43:11,046 Krause went to work. Krause went to work.
790 00:43:12,131 00:43:15,551 We added some great people like Horace Grant and Scottie Pippen. We added some great people like Horace Grant and Scottie Pippen.
791 00:43:16,844 00:43:19,054 We changed the makeup of the team. We changed the makeup of the team.
792 00:43:20,097 00:43:25,728 [Paxson] I will always give Jerry Krause credit for assembling a roster that fit. [Paxson] I will always give Jerry Krause credit for assembling a roster that fit.
793 00:43:26,937 00:43:29,398 I'm sure one of the hardest trades he ever had to make I'm sure one of the hardest trades he ever had to make
794 00:43:29,481 00:43:32,109 was trading Charles Oakley to New York for Bill Cartwright. was trading Charles Oakley to New York for Bill Cartwright.
795 00:43:32,860 00:43:35,946 We needed a big man. So, Bill was a great fit. We needed a big man. So, Bill was a great fit.
796 00:43:36,864 00:43:38,032 As much as I love Charles, As much as I love Charles,
797 00:43:38,115 00:43:40,743 this fits us better than what Charles gives us right now. this fits us better than what Charles gives us right now.
798 00:43:41,243 00:43:44,121 Michael was very fond of Charles 'cause Charles was his protector. Michael was very fond of Charles 'cause Charles was his protector.
799 00:43:44,204 00:43:47,082 Mike was always attacking the basket and he got knocked down a lot, Mike was always attacking the basket and he got knocked down a lot,
800 00:43:47,166 00:43:49,209 and Charles was always the guy to back him up. and Charles was always the guy to back him up.
801 00:43:49,293 00:43:51,879 [commentator] Oakley going right after "Hot Rod" Williams. [commentator] Oakley going right after "Hot Rod" Williams.
802 00:43:52,463 00:43:54,923 [Paxson] When Krause pulled the trigger on that trade, [Paxson] When Krause pulled the trigger on that trade,
803 00:43:55,007 00:43:57,676 that was probably one of the defining things in his career. that was probably one of the defining things in his career.
804 00:43:58,135 00:44:00,262 [Jordan] Charles Oakley and I were good friends. [Jordan] Charles Oakley and I were good friends.
805 00:44:00,346 00:44:02,139 We'd spent a lot of time together. We'd spent a lot of time together.
806 00:44:02,222 00:44:06,268 But things were in place for us to win, you know, when he left. But things were in place for us to win, you know, when he left.
807 00:44:06,769 00:44:09,188 [Kerr] Jerry did a phenomenal job with the team. [Kerr] Jerry did a phenomenal job with the team.
808 00:44:09,855 00:44:12,691 He made great trades, made great free agent signings. He made great trades, made great free agent signings.
809 00:44:12,775 00:44:14,234 He deserves a lot of credit. He deserves a lot of credit.
810 00:44:14,318 00:44:16,403 But he couldn't get out of his own way. But he couldn't get out of his own way.
811 00:44:35,005 00:44:38,384 Scottie had problems with Jerry and, um, Scottie had problems with Jerry and, um,
812 00:44:39,385 00:44:41,178 it came out on several occasions. it came out on several occasions.
813 00:44:41,679 00:44:45,265 The thing was... And part of, you know, Scottie's anger, The thing was... And part of, you know, Scottie's anger,
814 00:44:45,349 00:44:48,185 was they did look into seriously trading him was they did look into seriously trading him
815 00:44:48,268 00:44:50,562 after the '96-'97 season. after the '96-'97 season.
816 00:44:50,646 00:44:52,231 Anybody can be traded Anybody can be traded
817 00:44:52,314 00:44:54,525 and part of my responsibility and part of my responsibility
818 00:44:54,608 00:44:57,861 is to listen to other teams when they talk to me about our players. is to listen to other teams when they talk to me about our players.
819 00:44:58,654 00:45:00,906 And we think Scottie Pippen is certainly, And we think Scottie Pippen is certainly,
820 00:45:00,989 00:45:02,991 one of the top couple of players in basketball, one of the top couple of players in basketball,
821 00:45:03,075 00:45:04,493 and feel very strongly about him. and feel very strongly about him.
822 00:45:04,576 00:45:07,287 And I can't tell you what's gonna happen in the future, And I can't tell you what's gonna happen in the future,
823 00:45:07,371 00:45:08,371 because I don't know. because I don't know.
824 00:45:10,999 00:45:15,045 [Smith] Krause's point then was, "Look, we're gonna lose Pippen in a year. [Smith] Krause's point then was, "Look, we're gonna lose Pippen in a year.
825 00:45:15,129 00:45:17,089 The group doesn't have that much left. The group doesn't have that much left.
826 00:45:17,840 00:45:19,425 Let's blow it up now." Let's blow it up now."
827 00:45:19,508 00:45:20,968 But ownership said no. But ownership said no.
828 00:45:21,510 00:45:24,138 [Reinsdorf] But I killed that because I decided that [Reinsdorf] But I killed that because I decided that
829 00:45:24,221 00:45:26,974 as long as Michael Jordan was still gonna be here, as long as Michael Jordan was still gonna be here,
830 00:45:27,057 00:45:28,726 we gotta go for the sixth championship. we gotta go for the sixth championship.
831 00:45:28,809 00:45:32,187 [reporter] Jerry, how close did you come to dealing Scottie Pippen? [reporter] Jerry, how close did you come to dealing Scottie Pippen?
832 00:45:32,271 00:45:35,524 Well, we had a number of offers Well, we had a number of offers
833 00:45:36,358 00:45:41,655 we thought were good offers for Scottie and for some of our other players. we thought were good offers for Scottie and for some of our other players.
834 00:45:41,739 00:45:44,575 I'm never going to stop being aggressive, I'm never going to stop being aggressive,
835 00:45:44,658 00:45:48,162 and I will never stop trying to do things to make the team better. and I will never stop trying to do things to make the team better.
836 00:45:48,579 00:45:50,789 That really is what sort of... That really is what sort of...
837 00:45:52,458 00:45:55,419 tarnished my relationship with Jerry. tarnished my relationship with Jerry.
838 00:45:56,336 00:45:59,631 He tried to make me feel so special, He tried to make me feel so special,
839 00:46:00,632 00:46:06,430 but yet, he was still, like, willing to trade and do all that stuff, but yet, he was still, like, willing to trade and do all that stuff,
840 00:46:06,513 00:46:10,100 but never would tell me to my face. but never would tell me to my face.
841 00:46:11,560 00:46:13,437 After you're in the game for a while, After you're in the game for a while,
842 00:46:13,520 00:46:16,565 you realize that nobody is untradeable, you realize that nobody is untradeable,
843 00:46:17,357 00:46:19,943 but I felt insulted. but I felt insulted.
844 00:46:20,986 00:46:26,658 I sort of took the attitude of disrespecting him to some degree. I sort of took the attitude of disrespecting him to some degree.
845 00:46:30,370 00:46:32,623 [Wennington] There was always barbs going back and forth, [Wennington] There was always barbs going back and forth,
846 00:46:32,706 00:46:35,250 but at a certain point, Scottie crossed a line. but at a certain point, Scottie crossed a line.
847 00:46:36,585 00:46:39,546 I mean, it was getting... personal. I mean, it was getting... personal.
848 00:46:40,839 00:46:45,511 Pippen started abusing Krause openly, cursing him out on the bus. Pippen started abusing Krause openly, cursing him out on the bus.
849 00:46:45,594 00:46:49,431 Couldn't tolerate him anymore. Didn't respect him. Couldn't tolerate him anymore. Didn't respect him.
850 00:46:51,183 00:46:54,353 I remember some shots coming from the back of the bus. I remember some shots coming from the back of the bus.
851 00:46:55,813 00:46:57,481 Raise your eyebrows, you know. Raise your eyebrows, you know.
852 00:46:59,316 00:47:04,238 Pippen started berating Jerry Krause... Pippen started berating Jerry Krause...
853 00:47:05,572 00:47:06,824 in front of the team. in front of the team.
854 00:47:07,574 00:47:12,746 We had to say, "Hey, let's hold it down." You know? We had to say, "Hey, let's hold it down." You know?
855 00:47:12,830 00:47:15,999 But that's when it was, like, "Hey, there's a divide here." But that's when it was, like, "Hey, there's a divide here."
856 00:47:16,083 00:47:20,462 It's not your normal... I mean, there's some hard feelings. It's not your normal... I mean, there's some hard feelings.
857 00:47:20,546 00:47:22,256 "You don't appreciate me. "You don't appreciate me.
858 00:47:22,339 00:47:24,508 You're trying to trade me. You won't pay me. You're trying to trade me. You won't pay me.
859 00:47:24,591 00:47:27,761 Well, screw you. I'm taking care of myself now." Well, screw you. I'm taking care of myself now."
860 00:47:29,054 00:47:33,225 [Pippen] I was at that point where I felt like I needed to do what was best for me. [Pippen] I was at that point where I felt like I needed to do what was best for me.
861 00:47:34,893 00:47:37,396 I felt like it was time for me to go shopping. I felt like it was time for me to go shopping.
862 00:47:37,479 00:47:40,190 Pippen is now demanding a trade and he says Pippen is now demanding a trade and he says
863 00:47:40,274 00:47:43,861 he will not return from the injured list until he is gone from Chicago. he will not return from the injured list until he is gone from Chicago.
864 00:47:43,944 00:47:46,363 He said he's never gonna play for the Bulls ever again. He said he's never gonna play for the Bulls ever again.
865 00:47:46,446 00:47:48,448 "I'm never gonna wear this uniform ever again." "I'm never gonna wear this uniform ever again."
866 00:47:48,532 00:47:51,452 [reporter] Should the Bulls do something that would make you want to stay? [reporter] Should the Bulls do something that would make you want to stay?
867 00:47:52,077 00:47:55,622 I mean, no. I don't... I don't see myself carrying on. I mean, no. I don't... I don't see myself carrying on.
868 00:47:56,832 00:47:59,626 Scottie made some earth-shattering comments last night Scottie made some earth-shattering comments last night
869 00:47:59,710 00:48:02,588 to one of the Chicago writers, about wanting to be traded. to one of the Chicago writers, about wanting to be traded.
870 00:48:02,671 00:48:06,008 - Can we get your thoughts on that? - I don't really have any right now. - Can we get your thoughts on that? - I don't really have any right now.
871 00:48:06,592 00:48:09,720 I felt like Scottie was being selfish. I felt like Scottie was being selfish.
872 00:48:09,803 00:48:12,222 Worrying about himself as opposed to Worrying about himself as opposed to
873 00:48:12,306 00:48:15,851 what his word was to the organization as well as to the team. what his word was to the organization as well as to the team.
874 00:48:17,895 00:48:20,063 [Pippen] I'm done here, you know what I'm saying? [Pippen] I'm done here, you know what I'm saying?
875 00:48:21,064 00:48:24,359 You've already written my script out that this is it. You've already written my script out that this is it.
876 00:48:25,485 00:48:27,988 So, I had to do what was best for me. So, I had to do what was best for me.