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1 | 00:02:35,503 | 00:02:37,766 | I didn't want to believe in the beginning, | I didn't want to believe in the beginning, |
2 | 00:02:37,809 | 00:02:39,898 | what happened to Jamal. | what happened to Jamal. |
3 | 00:02:39,942 | 00:02:41,813 | Prominent Saudi journalist | Prominent Saudi journalist |
4 | 00:02:41,857 | 00:02:43,554 | andWashington Post columnist | andWashington Post columnist |
5 | 00:02:43,598 | 00:02:45,339 | has gone missing after visiting | has gone missing after visiting |
6 | 00:02:45,382 | 00:02:47,210 | his country's consulate in Istanbul. | his country's consulate in Istanbul. |
7 | 00:02:50,866 | 00:02:54,652 | Yes, I knew that I was doing something dangerous. | Yes, I knew that I was doing something dangerous. |
8 | 00:02:54,696 | 00:02:56,480 | But I didn't know that, you know, | But I didn't know that, you know, |
9 | 00:02:56,524 | 00:02:59,440 | we're going to lose so many lives because of it. | we're going to lose so many lives because of it. |
10 | 00:03:01,093 | 00:03:02,965 | On Tuesday, Jamal Khashoggi | On Tuesday, Jamal Khashoggi |
11 | 00:03:03,008 | 00:03:04,575 | entered the Saudi consulate | entered the Saudi consulate |
12 | 00:03:04,619 | 00:03:06,621 | in Istanbul but hasn't been seen since. | in Istanbul but hasn't been seen since. |
13 | 00:03:08,188 | 00:03:10,015 | Saudi and Turkish officials | Saudi and Turkish officials |
14 | 00:03:10,059 | 00:03:11,887 | have given conflicting accounts | have given conflicting accounts |
15 | 00:03:11,930 | 00:03:13,932 | on the whereabouts of Jamal Khashoggi, | on the whereabouts of Jamal Khashoggi, |
16 | 00:03:13,976 | 00:03:15,499 | who's known for criticizing | who's known for criticizing |
17 | 00:03:15,543 | 00:03:18,154 | Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman's policy | Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman's policy |
18 | 00:03:18,198 | 00:03:20,025 | inside Saudi Arabia. | inside Saudi Arabia. |
19 | 00:03:20,069 | 00:03:21,853 | Once an adviser and friend | Once an adviser and friend |
20 | 00:03:21,897 | 00:03:23,638 | of Saudi's royal and elites, | of Saudi's royal and elites, |
21 | 00:03:23,681 | 00:03:26,336 | he now lives in self-exile in the U.S. | he now lives in self-exile in the U.S. |
22 | 00:03:26,380 | 00:03:30,210 | and is an outspoken critic of his government's policies. | and is an outspoken critic of his government's policies. |
23 | 00:03:47,792 | 00:03:49,272 | Turkish authorities believe | Turkish authorities believe |
24 | 00:03:49,316 | 00:03:51,100 | prominent Saudi journalist, | prominent Saudi journalist, |
25 | 00:03:51,143 | 00:03:53,233 | Jamal Khashoggi, has been killed. | Jamal Khashoggi, has been killed. |
26 | 00:06:21,381 | 00:06:23,252 | ...what I want in my retirement. | ...what I want in my retirement. |
27 | 00:06:23,295 | 00:06:25,863 | I'm 60 years old, and I want to enjoy life, | I'm 60 years old, and I want to enjoy life, |
28 | 00:06:25,907 | 00:06:27,212 | and I want to be free. | and I want to be free. |
29 | 00:06:27,256 | 00:06:28,997 | Unfortunately, the government treated me | Unfortunately, the government treated me |
30 | 00:06:29,040 | 00:06:31,739 | as if I shot the King, God forbid, and I ran away. | as if I shot the King, God forbid, and I ran away. |
31 | 00:06:31,782 | 00:06:32,914 | As I am a traitor. | As I am a traitor. |
32 | 00:06:34,872 | 00:06:37,440 | After his death, | After his death, |
33 | 00:06:37,484 | 00:06:39,007 | Jamal became a hero. | Jamal became a hero. |
34 | 00:06:40,443 | 00:06:45,143 | We cry when we hear that the hero is killed. | We cry when we hear that the hero is killed. |
35 | 00:06:45,187 | 00:06:47,494 | But his works, | But his works, |
36 | 00:06:47,537 | 00:06:51,193 | his cause, his vision, | his cause, his vision, |
37 | 00:06:51,236 | 00:06:52,847 | it would live forever. | it would live forever. |
38 | 00:06:54,718 | 00:06:57,504 | What do you know about the bees? | What do you know about the bees? |
39 | 00:09:25,565 | 00:09:27,523 | We know from here that | We know from here that |
40 | 00:09:27,567 | 00:09:30,395 | he entered this embassy and didn't come out. | he entered this embassy and didn't come out. |
41 | 00:09:30,439 | 00:09:33,529 | ...in Istanbul, seekingpaperwork to marry his fiancée. | ...in Istanbul, seekingpaperwork to marry his fiancée. |
42 | 00:09:33,573 | 00:09:36,488 | His fiancée saw him go in at 1:00 p.m. | His fiancée saw him go in at 1:00 p.m. |
43 | 00:09:36,532 | 00:09:39,796 | and was still waiting for him after 1:00 a.m. | and was still waiting for him after 1:00 a.m. |
44 | 00:10:17,834 | 00:10:19,967 | MALE REPORTER 1 : Saudi officials have denied that | MALE REPORTER 1 : Saudi officials have denied that |
45 | 00:10:20,010 | 00:10:22,839 | a prominent Saudi journalist is in their custody. | a prominent Saudi journalist is in their custody. |
46 | 00:10:22,883 | 00:10:25,537 | Jamal Khashoggi has reportedly been missing | Jamal Khashoggi has reportedly been missing |
47 | 00:10:25,581 | 00:10:27,235 | for more than 24 hours. | for more than 24 hours. |
48 | 00:10:27,278 | 00:10:29,324 | Turkey says that they will be cooperating | Turkey says that they will be cooperating |
49 | 00:10:29,367 | 00:10:32,240 | with Saudi authorities to resolve the incident. | with Saudi authorities to resolve the incident. |
50 | 00:10:32,283 | 00:10:34,808 | The consulate said it had no comment | The consulate said it had no comment |
51 | 00:10:34,851 | 00:10:37,724 | when asked why he never came out. | when asked why he never came out. |
52 | 00:10:40,117 | 00:10:42,467 | Can you tell me what happened to Mr. Khashoggi? | Can you tell me what happened to Mr. Khashoggi? |
53 | 00:10:42,511 | 00:10:44,208 | What happened to Mr. Khashoggi? | What happened to Mr. Khashoggi? |
54 | 00:10:45,993 | 00:10:47,385 | Did you talk to him? | Did you talk to him? |
55 | 00:10:55,785 | 00:10:56,873 | Okay. | Okay. |
56 | 00:10:58,875 | 00:11:00,181 | Jamal-- | Jamal-- |
57 | 00:11:00,224 | 00:11:01,791 | Jamal Khashoggi. | Jamal Khashoggi. |
58 | 00:11:01,835 | 00:11:04,228 | Jamal Ahmad Khashoggi. | Jamal Ahmad Khashoggi. |
59 | 00:11:09,973 | 00:11:11,583 | Right. Okay. | Right. Okay. |
60 | 00:12:07,204 | 00:12:09,163 | What year was that, Jamal, that you graduated? | What year was that, Jamal, that you graduated? |
61 | 00:12:09,206 | 00:12:11,513 | -Eighty-one. Yes. -Nineteen eighty-one? | -Eighty-one. Yes. -Nineteen eighty-one? |
62 | 00:12:11,556 | 00:12:14,037 | Business Administration degree from Indiana State. | Business Administration degree from Indiana State. |
63 | 00:12:14,081 | 00:12:17,301 | But since then, I'm happy to see from his biography, | But since then, I'm happy to see from his biography, |
64 | 00:12:17,345 | 00:12:20,217 | Jamal is a rara avis, at least in our society, | Jamal is a rara avis, at least in our society, |
65 | 00:12:20,261 | 00:12:23,090 | full-time long-term professional journalist. | full-time long-term professional journalist. |
66 | 00:12:23,133 | 00:12:25,657 | He doesn't seem tempted to be doing anything else. | He doesn't seem tempted to be doing anything else. |
67 | 00:12:45,982 | 00:12:47,549 | Saudi Arabia is a monarchy. | Saudi Arabia is a monarchy. |
68 | 00:12:47,592 | 00:12:50,160 | I mean, the king has ruled that it should happen. | I mean, the king has ruled that it should happen. |
69 | 00:14:52,195 | 00:14:54,545 | -On Twitter? -On Twitter. | -On Twitter? -On Twitter. |
70 | 00:14:57,026 | 00:14:59,202 | I was criticizing everything | I was criticizing everything |
71 | 00:14:59,246 | 00:15:01,683 | except the royal family. | except the royal family. |
72 | 00:15:04,729 | 00:15:07,384 | But I didn't have a very huge audience. | But I didn't have a very huge audience. |
73 | 00:15:07,428 | 00:15:10,387 | I was just a regular guy with hundred followers. | I was just a regular guy with hundred followers. |
74 | 00:17:02,325 | 00:17:04,284 | The Saudi King's jet carries | The Saudi King's jet carries |
75 | 00:17:04,327 | 00:17:06,068 | its own royal staircase. | its own royal staircase. |
76 | 00:17:06,112 | 00:17:08,505 | Waiting at the bottom of it at Gatwick Airport this morning | Waiting at the bottom of it at Gatwick Airport this morning |
77 | 00:17:08,549 | 00:17:10,333 | were the Prince and Princess of Wales. | were the Prince and Princess of Wales. |
78 | 00:17:10,377 | 00:17:13,510 | The king of one of the most closed societies in the world | The king of one of the most closed societies in the world |
79 | 00:17:13,554 | 00:17:16,078 | looking at ease in this more open one. | looking at ease in this more open one. |
80 | 00:17:16,122 | 00:17:17,775 | The Saudi government and the monarchy | The Saudi government and the monarchy |
81 | 00:17:17,819 | 00:17:21,649 | has evolved significantly over the last 80 years, | has evolved significantly over the last 80 years, |
82 | 00:17:21,692 | 00:17:24,043 | basically, since the kingdom was founded. | basically, since the kingdom was founded. |
83 | 00:17:27,263 | 00:17:29,222 | The founder of Saudi Arabia, King Abdulaziz, | The founder of Saudi Arabia, King Abdulaziz, |
84 | 00:17:29,265 | 00:17:31,485 | had about 37 sons or so. | had about 37 sons or so. |
85 | 00:17:31,528 | 00:17:33,965 | And political power, as well as economic power, | And political power, as well as economic power, |
86 | 00:17:34,009 | 00:17:36,185 | was distributed among those sons. | was distributed among those sons. |
87 | 00:17:36,229 | 00:17:39,319 | A pivotal country saw a lavish welcome | A pivotal country saw a lavish welcome |
88 | 00:17:39,362 | 00:17:40,842 | for the man who controls | for the man who controls |
89 | 00:17:40,885 | 00:17:43,323 | nearly half the world's oil reserves. | nearly half the world's oil reserves. |
90 | 00:17:44,802 | 00:17:46,935 | Once King Abdulaziz died, | Once King Abdulaziz died, |
91 | 00:17:46,978 | 00:17:48,241 | the crown was passed through | the crown was passed through |
92 | 00:17:48,284 | 00:17:49,633 | to his son, | to his son, |
93 | 00:17:49,677 | 00:17:52,027 | to his son, to his son. | to his son, to his son. |
94 | 00:17:53,202 | 00:17:55,248 | King Salman became the king | King Salman became the king |
95 | 00:17:55,291 | 00:17:57,989 | and the game has completely changed. | and the game has completely changed. |
96 | 00:18:00,601 | 00:18:02,429 | A new king reigns in a country | A new king reigns in a country |
97 | 00:18:02,472 | 00:18:04,300 | with enormous sway over the world economy | with enormous sway over the world economy |
98 | 00:18:04,344 | 00:18:06,389 | and the war on terror. | and the war on terror. |
99 | 00:18:07,999 | 00:18:10,567 | While in the past, the king really had to rely on | While in the past, the king really had to rely on |
100 | 00:18:10,611 | 00:18:14,876 | a lot of his brothers in order to govern the kingdom. | a lot of his brothers in order to govern the kingdom. |
101 | 00:18:14,919 | 00:18:16,921 | When they passed from the scene, | When they passed from the scene, |
102 | 00:18:16,965 | 00:18:18,662 | more and more powers concentrated | more and more powers concentrated |
103 | 00:18:18,706 | 00:18:22,449 | in the hands of his heirs, | in the hands of his heirs, |
104 | 00:18:22,492 | 00:18:24,364 | and that's the situation we have today. | and that's the situation we have today. |
105 | 00:18:39,640 | 00:18:41,598 | Saudi Arabia has granted | Saudi Arabia has granted |
106 | 00:18:41,642 | 00:18:45,167 | Turkish investigators permission to enter and search. | Turkish investigators permission to enter and search. |
107 | 00:22:02,233 | 00:22:04,061 | This is history. | This is history. |
108 | 00:22:04,105 | 00:22:06,934 | Protesters forcing change earlier this year in Tunisia, | Protesters forcing change earlier this year in Tunisia, |
109 | 00:22:06,977 | 00:22:09,371 | now succeeding in forcing change in Egypt | now succeeding in forcing change in Egypt |
110 | 00:22:09,415 | 00:22:12,679 | after nearly 30 years of Mubarak rule. | after nearly 30 years of Mubarak rule. |
111 | 00:22:14,158 | 00:22:17,205 | That's two Arab leaders in two months. | That's two Arab leaders in two months. |
112 | 00:22:28,259 | 00:22:29,826 | Arab governments are watching closely, | Arab governments are watching closely, |
113 | 00:22:29,870 | 00:22:31,872 | wary that a revolution might be headed | wary that a revolution might be headed |
114 | 00:22:31,915 | 00:22:33,569 | to their country next. | to their country next. |
115 | 00:22:57,941 | 00:23:00,379 | The military's crackdown on opposition in Egypt | The military's crackdown on opposition in Egypt |
116 | 00:23:00,422 | 00:23:04,034 | had resulted in over 14,000 people thrown in jail. | had resulted in over 14,000 people thrown in jail. |
117 | 00:24:24,550 | 00:24:26,203 | John, good morning. | John, good morning. |
118 | 00:24:26,247 | 00:24:27,727 | I'm on a new phone. | I'm on a new phone. |
119 | 00:24:27,770 | 00:24:29,555 | Uh, this is temporary. | Uh, this is temporary. |
120 | 00:24:29,598 | 00:24:34,995 | Let's not exchange sensitive information until you arrive. | Let's not exchange sensitive information until you arrive. |
121 | 00:24:35,038 | 00:24:37,563 | But this is how to get in touch with me until then. | But this is how to get in touch with me until then. |
122 | 00:24:40,348 | 00:24:42,959 | I tell people that Jamal and I | I tell people that Jamal and I |
123 | 00:24:43,003 | 00:24:46,180 | were not supposed to be friends. | were not supposed to be friends. |
124 | 00:24:46,223 | 00:24:49,052 | I mean, I'm a pretty well-known dissident. | I mean, I'm a pretty well-known dissident. |
125 | 00:24:49,096 | 00:24:53,970 | But in 2012, he started following me on Twitter. | But in 2012, he started following me on Twitter. |
126 | 00:24:54,014 | 00:24:56,190 | He was very interested in social media | He was very interested in social media |
127 | 00:24:56,233 | 00:24:57,931 | in terms of the phenomena. | in terms of the phenomena. |
128 | 00:24:59,889 | 00:25:03,719 | Saudi Arabia has an unprecedented online population. | Saudi Arabia has an unprecedented online population. |
129 | 00:25:07,070 | 00:25:09,551 | We know that there's no free speech. | We know that there's no free speech. |
130 | 00:25:09,595 | 00:25:12,641 | So, Twitter became the parliament of the Arabs. | So, Twitter became the parliament of the Arabs. |
131 | 00:25:42,671 | 00:25:44,586 | ...already proposed a series | ...already proposed a series |
132 | 00:25:44,630 | 00:25:46,022 | of economic and social changes | of economic and social changes |
133 | 00:25:46,066 | 00:25:49,373 | under the banner of Saudi Vision 2030. | under the banner of Saudi Vision 2030. |
134 | 00:25:49,417 | 00:25:52,028 | The highly anticipated 2030 Vision | The highly anticipated 2030 Vision |
135 | 00:25:52,072 | 00:25:55,379 | seems to radically change the image of the Kingdom. | seems to radically change the image of the Kingdom. |
136 | 00:25:55,423 | 00:25:57,077 | The man behind it all, | The man behind it all, |
137 | 00:25:57,120 | 00:25:59,514 | Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, | Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, |
138 | 00:25:59,558 | 00:26:01,995 | is regarded as a progressive leader, | is regarded as a progressive leader, |
139 | 00:26:02,038 | 00:26:04,824 | touting social and economic reforms. | touting social and economic reforms. |
140 | 00:26:10,438 | 00:26:12,092 | And critics say, MBS, | And critics say, MBS, |
141 | 00:26:12,135 | 00:26:15,182 | as he's known, is also power hungry. | as he's known, is also power hungry. |
142 | 00:26:15,225 | 00:26:16,923 | I had met Mohammed Salman | I had met Mohammed Salman |
143 | 00:26:16,966 | 00:26:19,665 | when he was Chief of Staff to his father. | when he was Chief of Staff to his father. |
144 | 00:26:21,014 | 00:26:24,452 | We understood that he was very ambitious, | We understood that he was very ambitious, |
145 | 00:26:24,495 | 00:26:28,412 | a very impatient, and a favorite son. | a very impatient, and a favorite son. |
146 | 00:26:29,805 | 00:26:31,764 | He pushed aside King Salman's half-brother, | He pushed aside King Salman's half-brother, |
147 | 00:26:31,807 | 00:26:35,768 | Prince Muqrin and the Crown Prince, Muhammad Nayef. | Prince Muqrin and the Crown Prince, Muhammad Nayef. |
148 | 00:26:35,811 | 00:26:39,336 | He's being described as the power behind the throne, | He's being described as the power behind the throne, |
149 | 00:26:39,380 | 00:26:42,383 | and has had a hand in nearly everything in the Kingdom. | and has had a hand in nearly everything in the Kingdom. |
150 | 00:26:42,426 | 00:26:44,385 | He is emancipating women, | He is emancipating women, |
151 | 00:26:44,428 | 00:26:46,213 | introducing music and cinema, | introducing music and cinema, |
152 | 00:26:46,256 | 00:26:48,432 | and cracking down on corruption. | and cracking down on corruption. |
153 | 00:27:17,244 | 00:27:18,680 | This is an American first, | This is an American first, |
154 | 00:27:18,724 | 00:27:20,464 | never before has a president set foot | never before has a president set foot |
155 | 00:27:20,508 | 00:27:23,685 | on Saudi soil for his first trip abroad. | on Saudi soil for his first trip abroad. |
156 | 00:27:32,738 | 00:27:37,438 | America will not seek to impose our way of life on others, | America will not seek to impose our way of life on others, |
157 | 00:27:37,481 | 00:27:40,093 | but to outstretch our hands | but to outstretch our hands |
158 | 00:27:40,136 | 00:27:43,705 | in the spirit of cooperation and trust. | in the spirit of cooperation and trust. |
159 | 00:27:43,749 | 00:27:45,359 | What my sources told me | What my sources told me |
160 | 00:27:45,402 | 00:27:47,840 | was the Saudis and Mohammed bin Salman, in particular, | was the Saudis and Mohammed bin Salman, in particular, |
161 | 00:27:47,883 | 00:27:49,319 | were trying to forge a relationship | were trying to forge a relationship |
162 | 00:27:49,363 | 00:27:51,147 | with people in The White House, | with people in The White House, |
163 | 00:27:51,191 | 00:27:54,107 | and most particularly with Jared Kushner, | and most particularly with Jared Kushner, |
164 | 00:27:54,150 | 00:27:56,457 | who's the President's son-in-law and Senior Advisor. | who's the President's son-in-law and Senior Advisor. |
165 | 00:28:07,555 | 00:28:09,731 | Three billion dollars, | Three billion dollars, |
166 | 00:28:09,775 | 00:28:12,603 | $533 million, | $533 million, |
167 | 00:28:12,647 | 00:28:15,694 | $525 million. | $525 million. |
168 | 00:28:15,737 | 00:28:17,130 | That's peanuts for you. | That's peanuts for you. |
169 | 00:28:17,173 | 00:28:19,175 | You should've increased it. Eight hundred... | You should've increased it. Eight hundred... |
170 | 00:28:26,487 | 00:28:29,533 | He said that he's milking the country. | He said that he's milking the country. |
171 | 00:28:37,672 | 00:28:39,718 | I'm sure Saudi Arabian officials | I'm sure Saudi Arabian officials |
172 | 00:28:39,761 | 00:28:40,980 | were caught off-guard | were caught off-guard |
173 | 00:28:41,023 | 00:28:43,460 | by the election of Mr. Trump. Now... | by the election of Mr. Trump. Now... |
174 | 00:28:43,504 | 00:28:47,160 | I think all of us, as Saudis, should worry about it. | I think all of us, as Saudis, should worry about it. |
175 | 00:28:47,203 | 00:28:51,468 | I strongly believe that the struggle for democracy | I strongly believe that the struggle for democracy |
176 | 00:28:51,512 | 00:28:54,645 | in the Middle East are the core of all problems. | in the Middle East are the core of all problems. |
177 | 00:29:16,972 | 00:29:19,105 | When Jamal heard that statement, | When Jamal heard that statement, |
178 | 00:29:19,148 | 00:29:20,584 | he was shocked. | he was shocked. |
179 | 00:29:24,066 | 00:29:25,372 | By 2017, | By 2017, |
180 | 00:29:25,415 | 00:29:28,897 | Jamal had an enormous audience. | Jamal had an enormous audience. |
181 | 00:29:28,941 | 00:29:34,250 | MBS put together a plan to control the public sphere. | MBS put together a plan to control the public sphere. |
182 | 00:29:34,294 | 00:29:37,819 | Saud al-Qahtani, MBS's right-hand man, | Saud al-Qahtani, MBS's right-hand man, |
183 | 00:29:37,863 | 00:29:40,082 | managed to implement this plan... | managed to implement this plan... |
184 | 00:29:41,780 | 00:29:43,825 | ...creating Twitter army of trolls | ...creating Twitter army of trolls |
185 | 00:29:43,869 | 00:29:46,959 | to control the freedom of speech. | to control the freedom of speech. |
186 | 00:29:47,002 | 00:29:48,612 | Al-Qahtani worked behind the scenes | Al-Qahtani worked behind the scenes |
187 | 00:29:48,656 | 00:29:50,571 | as an enforcer for the Crown Prince. | as an enforcer for the Crown Prince. |
188 | 00:29:50,614 | 00:29:52,225 | Qahtani was known for targeting those | Qahtani was known for targeting those |
189 | 00:29:52,268 | 00:29:55,445 | who spoke out against Riyadh on Twitter. | who spoke out against Riyadh on Twitter. |
190 | 00:30:48,803 | 00:30:50,239 | They're not dissidents. | They're not dissidents. |
191 | 00:30:50,283 | 00:30:53,852 | The people were not even being dissidents. | The people were not even being dissidents. |
192 | 00:30:53,895 | 00:30:55,766 | These were the thought-makers, | These were the thought-makers, |
193 | 00:30:55,810 | 00:30:59,727 | the opinion-makers of Saudi society. | the opinion-makers of Saudi society. |
194 | 00:30:59,770 | 00:31:01,642 | Writers and intellectuals. | Writers and intellectuals. |
195 | 00:34:37,466 | 00:34:39,642 | For the first time, we are now hearing | For the first time, we are now hearing |
196 | 00:34:39,686 | 00:34:42,819 | from the fiancée of WashingtonPost reporter Jamal Khashoggi... | from the fiancée of WashingtonPost reporter Jamal Khashoggi... |
197 | 00:34:42,863 | 00:34:44,125 | ...has called on U.S. lawmakers | ...has called on U.S. lawmakers |
198 | 00:34:44,169 | 00:34:46,127 | to hold Saudi Arabia accountable. | to hold Saudi Arabia accountable. |
199 | 00:34:46,171 | 00:34:47,868 | His fiancée says she'll fight to ensure | His fiancée says she'll fight to ensure |
200 | 00:34:47,911 | 00:34:49,957 | everyone who is responsible for his death | everyone who is responsible for his death |
201 | 00:34:50,000 | 00:34:52,002 | is brought to justice. | is brought to justice. |
202 | 00:35:05,929 | 00:35:07,453 | Yeah. I need 10 minutes. | Yeah. I need 10 minutes. |
203 | 00:35:07,496 | 00:35:08,454 | Yes. | Yes. |
204 | 00:35:11,283 | 00:35:12,762 | We need to cross the opening... | We need to cross the opening... |
205 | 00:35:12,806 | 00:35:14,329 | Absolutely. But let's go... | Absolutely. But let's go... |
206 | 00:35:27,516 | 00:35:30,519 | If we can just announce the press briefing. | If we can just announce the press briefing. |
207 | 00:35:30,563 | 00:35:32,478 | And is there any questions? | And is there any questions? |
208 | 00:35:32,521 | 00:35:34,306 | If there's questions, we cannot... | If there's questions, we cannot... |
209 | 00:39:12,437 | 00:39:14,439 | I said, "But here's the thing. | I said, "But here's the thing. |
210 | 00:39:14,482 | 00:39:16,832 | Not every single one of them trusts you." | Not every single one of them trusts you." |
211 | 00:39:18,878 | 00:39:21,837 | You are saying that Jamal might be a spy. | You are saying that Jamal might be a spy. |
212 | 00:39:26,189 | 00:39:28,409 | I met Jamal in Washington | I met Jamal in Washington |
213 | 00:39:28,453 | 00:39:32,021 | after a manor connected me to him. | after a manor connected me to him. |
214 | 00:39:32,065 | 00:39:34,459 | I think we bonded a lot over food. Heh. | I think we bonded a lot over food. Heh. |
215 | 00:39:34,502 | 00:39:39,246 | Like most, I guess, Middle Easterners. | Like most, I guess, Middle Easterners. |
216 | 00:39:39,289 | 00:39:41,988 | He told me that he had moved to the U.S. | He told me that he had moved to the U.S. |
217 | 00:39:42,031 | 00:39:44,207 | and that he was all alone | and that he was all alone |
218 | 00:39:44,251 | 00:39:45,687 | and didn't know what was happening | and didn't know what was happening |
219 | 00:39:45,731 | 00:39:48,864 | for the first time in his life at age 60. | for the first time in his life at age 60. |
220 | 00:39:48,908 | 00:39:51,389 | I remember he started tearing up, | I remember he started tearing up, |
221 | 00:39:51,432 | 00:39:57,003 | telling me how his wife whom he had loved very, very much, | telling me how his wife whom he had loved very, very much, |
222 | 00:39:57,046 | 00:39:58,613 | she wasn't okay with it. | she wasn't okay with it. |
223 | 00:39:58,657 | 00:39:59,788 | She-- Nobody was. | She-- Nobody was. |
224 | 00:39:59,832 | 00:40:01,094 | His kids weren't okay with it. | His kids weren't okay with it. |
225 | 00:40:01,137 | 00:40:02,400 | Nobody was okay with it. | Nobody was okay with it. |
226 | 00:40:03,618 | 00:40:06,360 | Everything was left behind | Everything was left behind |
227 | 00:40:06,404 | 00:40:10,669 | and the country-- 60 years of his life-- | and the country-- 60 years of his life-- |
228 | 00:40:10,712 | 00:40:12,018 | everything. | everything. |
229 | 00:40:12,061 | 00:40:15,413 | He struggled with it every single day. | He struggled with it every single day. |
230 | 00:40:17,197 | 00:40:21,027 | In Saudi Arabia, he was the biggest insider. | In Saudi Arabia, he was the biggest insider. |
231 | 00:40:21,070 | 00:40:23,072 | And then, all of a sudden, he finds himself | And then, all of a sudden, he finds himself |
232 | 00:40:23,116 | 00:40:24,378 | on the outside, | on the outside, |
233 | 00:40:24,422 | 00:40:26,336 | on the very much outside. | on the very much outside. |
234 | 00:40:31,864 | 00:40:34,257 | I felt, like, for him to settle emotionally, | I felt, like, for him to settle emotionally, |
235 | 00:40:34,301 | 00:40:38,392 | mentally, physically, he needed to write again. | mentally, physically, he needed to write again. |
236 | 00:41:21,304 | 00:41:23,219 | I was a friend of Jamal Khashoggi's | I was a friend of Jamal Khashoggi's |
237 | 00:41:23,263 | 00:41:25,483 | for about 15 years. | for about 15 years. |
238 | 00:41:25,526 | 00:41:30,096 | When he came toThe Washington Post, he was transported. | When he came toThe Washington Post, he was transported. |
239 | 00:41:30,139 | 00:41:31,880 | This was something that he had dreamed about. | This was something that he had dreamed about. |
240 | 00:41:31,924 | 00:41:33,360 | You have to understand what it's like | You have to understand what it's like |
241 | 00:41:33,403 | 00:41:34,579 | to be a journalist in Saudi Arabia. | to be a journalist in Saudi Arabia. |
242 | 00:41:34,622 | 00:41:36,102 | Every time you try to say something | Every time you try to say something |
243 | 00:41:36,145 | 00:41:38,408 | that's tough-minded, you get fired. | that's tough-minded, you get fired. |
244 | 00:41:41,281 | 00:41:44,937 | He was the sort of person that just couldn't take a pass. | He was the sort of person that just couldn't take a pass. |
245 | 00:41:44,980 | 00:41:48,418 | If he felt something, he just insisted on writing it. | If he felt something, he just insisted on writing it. |
246 | 00:41:50,116 | 00:41:51,465 | I watched him get fired | I watched him get fired |
247 | 00:41:51,509 | 00:41:54,337 | from a series of jobs in Saudi Arabia, | from a series of jobs in Saudi Arabia, |
248 | 00:41:54,381 | 00:41:57,515 | each time because he just couldn't stop himself | each time because he just couldn't stop himself |
249 | 00:41:57,558 | 00:41:59,517 | from saying what he thought was true. | from saying what he thought was true. |
250 | 00:43:29,476 | 00:43:31,434 | All we want from you this time | All we want from you this time |
251 | 00:43:31,478 | 00:43:34,046 | is to like and subscribe. | is to like and subscribe. |
252 | 00:44:08,428 | 00:44:11,649 | We're seeing a truly historic upheaval unfold right now. | We're seeing a truly historic upheaval unfold right now. |
253 | 00:44:11,692 | 00:44:14,086 | A royal purge in Saudi Arabia. | A royal purge in Saudi Arabia. |
254 | 00:44:15,783 | 00:44:17,306 | King Salman ordered the creation | King Salman ordered the creation |
255 | 00:44:17,350 | 00:44:19,439 | of a new anti-corruption committee | of a new anti-corruption committee |
256 | 00:44:19,482 | 00:44:22,964 | headed by son, Prince Mohammed Salman. | headed by son, Prince Mohammed Salman. |
257 | 00:44:23,008 | 00:44:25,271 | November of 2017, | November of 2017, |
258 | 00:44:25,314 | 00:44:27,447 | Mohammed Bin Salman basically rounds up | Mohammed Bin Salman basically rounds up |
259 | 00:44:27,490 | 00:44:29,884 | the most powerful people in Saudi Arabia, | the most powerful people in Saudi Arabia, |
260 | 00:44:29,928 | 00:44:32,539 | puts them in the Ritz in Riyadh, | puts them in the Ritz in Riyadh, |
261 | 00:44:32,582 | 00:44:34,367 | basically a five-star prison, | basically a five-star prison, |
262 | 00:44:34,410 | 00:44:37,283 | and shakes them down for a lot of money, | and shakes them down for a lot of money, |
263 | 00:44:37,326 | 00:44:39,285 | over a $100 billion. | over a $100 billion. |
264 | 00:44:39,328 | 00:44:41,896 | Mohammed Bin Salman ordered the arrest | Mohammed Bin Salman ordered the arrest |
265 | 00:44:41,940 | 00:44:45,030 | of powerful princes, ministers, and investors. | of powerful princes, ministers, and investors. |
266 | 00:44:45,073 | 00:44:48,686 | Some are his rivals in the royal family. | Some are his rivals in the royal family. |
267 | 00:45:02,787 | 00:45:05,659 | Is this also about sending a message that, | Is this also about sending a message that, |
268 | 00:45:05,703 | 00:45:09,010 | as we say in America, there's a new sheriff in town? | as we say in America, there's a new sheriff in town? |
269 | 00:45:38,823 | 00:45:41,564 | Jamal was starting to realize that | Jamal was starting to realize that |
270 | 00:45:41,608 | 00:45:44,698 | there's little he can do for his country | there's little he can do for his country |
271 | 00:45:44,742 | 00:45:46,744 | from his position other than to write. | from his position other than to write. |
272 | 00:45:52,706 | 00:45:54,882 | Jamal Khashoggi was kind of a black box | Jamal Khashoggi was kind of a black box |
273 | 00:45:54,926 | 00:45:57,493 | of the ruling elites in Saudi Arabia. | of the ruling elites in Saudi Arabia. |
274 | 00:46:11,072 | 00:46:14,423 | It is easy to sit and say we need, | It is easy to sit and say we need, |
275 | 00:46:14,467 | 00:46:15,990 | particularly in front of American audience, | particularly in front of American audience, |
276 | 00:46:16,034 | 00:46:17,383 | we need more freedom, we need more-- | we need more freedom, we need more-- |
277 | 00:46:17,426 | 00:46:18,601 | these are golden things. | these are golden things. |
278 | 00:46:18,645 | 00:46:19,951 | Everybody loves them. | Everybody loves them. |
279 | 00:46:19,994 | 00:46:21,039 | --You have to be practical. | --You have to be practical. |
280 | 00:46:21,082 | 00:46:22,649 | I'm not asking for democracy, | I'm not asking for democracy, |
281 | 00:46:22,692 | 00:46:25,217 | I'm asking for people to be allowed to speak. | I'm asking for people to be allowed to speak. |
282 | 00:46:25,260 | 00:46:27,872 | This is-- I'm asking for the minimum. | This is-- I'm asking for the minimum. |
283 | 00:55:59,878 | 00:56:02,228 | In summer 2018, | In summer 2018, |
284 | 00:56:02,271 | 00:56:04,535 | they were attacking him basically every single day, | they were attacking him basically every single day, |
285 | 00:56:04,578 | 00:56:07,364 | threatening him, trying to silence him. | threatening him, trying to silence him. |
286 | 00:56:09,714 | 00:56:12,847 | So Jamal felt the whole country was against him. | So Jamal felt the whole country was against him. |
287 | 00:56:14,545 | 00:56:16,111 | And that was hurting him. | And that was hurting him. |
288 | 00:56:18,375 | 00:56:19,985 | He said, "Sometimes, I feel a lot like | He said, "Sometimes, I feel a lot like |
289 | 00:56:20,028 | 00:56:21,813 | "I don't wanna talk about anything. | "I don't wanna talk about anything. |
290 | 00:56:21,856 | 00:56:23,858 | I don't wanna expose my opinions." | I don't wanna expose my opinions." |
291 | 00:56:24,816 | 00:56:26,426 | I said, "No, no, no. | I said, "No, no, no. |
292 | 00:56:26,470 | 00:56:30,256 | You're just a victim of what we call the Flies." | You're just a victim of what we call the Flies." |
293 | 00:56:34,826 | 00:56:37,829 | The government hired thousands of people. | The government hired thousands of people. |
294 | 00:56:40,266 | 00:56:43,530 | Every one of them using 10, 20 accounts. | Every one of them using 10, 20 accounts. |
295 | 00:56:51,495 | 00:56:54,498 | The moment they think critic of the government has posted, | The moment they think critic of the government has posted, |
296 | 00:56:54,541 | 00:56:56,978 | the flies swarmed, | the flies swarmed, |
297 | 00:56:57,022 | 00:57:00,025 | attacking with hundreds of negative replies. | attacking with hundreds of negative replies. |
298 | 00:57:01,418 | 00:57:03,463 | Within minutes, the tweet is covered | Within minutes, the tweet is covered |
299 | 00:57:03,507 | 00:57:06,466 | in pro-government comments and hashtags, | in pro-government comments and hashtags, |
300 | 00:57:06,510 | 00:57:09,208 | causing the person's voice to be lost. | causing the person's voice to be lost. |
301 | 00:57:11,645 | 00:57:14,474 | Then each fly posts pro-government articles | Then each fly posts pro-government articles |
302 | 00:57:14,518 | 00:57:17,999 | and hashtags, supporting MBS's vision. | and hashtags, supporting MBS's vision. |
303 | 00:57:19,827 | 00:57:24,397 | And all of the fly can repost thousands of those tweets... | And all of the fly can repost thousands of those tweets... |
304 | 00:57:25,616 | 00:57:27,356 | forcing the state's false narrative | forcing the state's false narrative |
305 | 00:57:27,400 | 00:57:29,663 | to the top of trending inside the country. | to the top of trending inside the country. |
306 | 00:57:31,665 | 00:57:33,624 | This is the whole Twitter monster | This is the whole Twitter monster |
307 | 00:57:33,667 | 00:57:36,757 | that Saud al-Qahtani created | that Saud al-Qahtani created |
308 | 00:57:36,801 | 00:57:39,325 | and you have the troll master himself on the top. | and you have the troll master himself on the top. |
309 | 00:58:10,965 | 00:58:14,360 | I could get hundreds of volunteers from Saudi Arabia, | I could get hundreds of volunteers from Saudi Arabia, |
310 | 00:58:14,403 | 00:58:16,754 | Kuwait, Yemen, other countries. | Kuwait, Yemen, other countries. |
311 | 00:58:18,364 | 00:58:20,888 | Each armed with two, three phones, | Each armed with two, three phones, |
312 | 00:58:20,932 | 00:58:23,064 | generating hundreds of accounts. | generating hundreds of accounts. |
313 | 00:58:24,762 | 00:58:26,546 | But first we would have to make sure | But first we would have to make sure |
314 | 00:58:26,590 | 00:58:29,244 | that they are protected. | that they are protected. |
315 | 00:58:29,288 | 00:58:31,420 | Anyone tweeting inside Saudi Arabia | Anyone tweeting inside Saudi Arabia |
316 | 00:58:31,464 | 00:58:33,510 | will be immediately identified | will be immediately identified |
317 | 00:58:33,553 | 00:58:36,904 | since the government owns all this other networks. | since the government owns all this other networks. |
318 | 00:58:38,558 | 00:58:40,212 | So to mask their identities, | So to mask their identities, |
319 | 00:58:40,255 | 00:58:42,606 | we must give them American or Canadian safeguards. | we must give them American or Canadian safeguards. |
320 | 00:58:46,784 | 00:58:48,350 | To battle The Flies, | To battle The Flies, |
321 | 00:58:48,394 | 00:58:51,092 | we will call ourselves The Bees Army. | we will call ourselves The Bees Army. |
322 | 00:58:51,136 | 00:58:53,181 | We would organize the volunteers | We would organize the volunteers |
323 | 00:58:53,225 | 00:58:55,227 | into groups of 40 or 50 bees, | into groups of 40 or 50 bees, |
324 | 00:58:55,270 | 00:58:58,012 | each reporting to a supervising lieutenant. | each reporting to a supervising lieutenant. |
325 | 00:58:59,927 | 00:59:02,060 | Once I give the command, each lieutenant | Once I give the command, each lieutenant |
326 | 00:59:02,103 | 00:59:04,323 | will tell their bee soldier a specific tweet | will tell their bee soldier a specific tweet |
327 | 00:59:04,366 | 00:59:05,890 | or hashtag to protect. | or hashtag to protect. |
328 | 00:59:07,631 | 00:59:10,242 | But we're not going to use the same method. | But we're not going to use the same method. |
329 | 00:59:19,817 | 00:59:21,383 | Give them the freedom | Give them the freedom |
330 | 00:59:21,427 | 00:59:23,255 | to say whatever they want. | to say whatever they want. |
331 | 00:59:26,214 | 00:59:28,303 | The Flies will, of course, attack. | The Flies will, of course, attack. |
332 | 00:59:32,873 | 00:59:34,962 | But if our numbers are stronger, | But if our numbers are stronger, |
333 | 00:59:35,006 | 00:59:37,922 | we will be able to rise above the propaganda machine... | we will be able to rise above the propaganda machine... |
334 | 00:59:39,663 | 00:59:43,710 | and finally install freedom of speech inside the Kingdom. | and finally install freedom of speech inside the Kingdom. |
335 | 00:59:46,234 | 00:59:48,497 | Jamal was really happy of the idea. | Jamal was really happy of the idea. |
336 | 00:59:48,541 | 00:59:51,022 | He said, "Brilliant, I really like it." | He said, "Brilliant, I really like it." |
337 | 01:03:36,073 | 01:03:39,728 | Focusing all our efforts on one hashtag, | Focusing all our efforts on one hashtag, |
338 | 01:03:39,772 | 01:03:42,470 | #wható_doóyouó_knowóabout ó_the óbees? | #wható_doóyouó_knowóabout ó_the óbees? |
339 | 01:04:29,866 | 01:04:31,302 | So the moment he left, | So the moment he left, |
340 | 01:04:31,345 | 01:04:33,695 | they called Saud al-Qahtani's office? | they called Saud al-Qahtani's office? |
341 | 01:04:57,502 | 01:05:00,070 | And that was the turning point. | And that was the turning point. |
342 | 01:05:00,113 | 01:05:02,550 | It started trending. | It started trending. |
343 | 01:05:42,025 | 01:05:45,376 | Jamal was surprised, so then he started | Jamal was surprised, so then he started |
344 | 01:05:45,419 | 01:05:47,204 | to tweet with us, he tweeted it. | to tweet with us, he tweeted it. |
345 | 01:05:51,469 | 01:05:53,514 | And then we did it. | And then we did it. |
346 | 01:05:53,558 | 01:05:56,082 | Number one trending in Saudi Arabia. | Number one trending in Saudi Arabia. |
347 | 01:06:03,655 | 01:06:05,962 | And suddenly... | And suddenly... |
348 | 01:06:06,005 | 01:06:07,572 | he's not answering. | he's not answering. |
349 | 01:06:11,968 | 01:06:13,970 | He's just gone, disappeared. | He's just gone, disappeared. |
350 | 01:07:04,716 | 01:07:08,676 | When I heard this, I was driving to my house. | When I heard this, I was driving to my house. |
351 | 01:07:08,720 | 01:07:11,766 | My friends calling me continuously. | My friends calling me continuously. |
352 | 01:07:11,810 | 01:07:13,986 | Come on, Jamal Khashoggi. | Come on, Jamal Khashoggi. |
353 | 01:07:14,030 | 01:07:15,553 | It's news. | It's news. |
354 | 01:07:15,596 | 01:07:19,252 | I called a couple of journalists based in Istanbul | I called a couple of journalists based in Istanbul |
355 | 01:07:19,296 | 01:07:23,126 | like Reuters, Al Jazeera,Washington Post. | like Reuters, Al Jazeera,Washington Post. |
356 | 01:07:25,215 | 01:07:28,044 | There's really not a playbook for this type of situation, | There's really not a playbook for this type of situation, |
357 | 01:07:28,087 | 01:07:30,263 | but we did know that we needed to act quickly. | but we did know that we needed to act quickly. |
358 | 01:07:30,307 | 01:07:33,571 | Within hours, we had a letter dispatched through the ambassador | Within hours, we had a letter dispatched through the ambassador |
359 | 01:07:33,614 | 01:07:38,010 | and through the United States government to the Crown Prince. | and through the United States government to the Crown Prince. |
360 | 01:07:48,542 | 01:07:51,328 | I'd ask to meet with the Saudi ambassador of the U.S. | I'd ask to meet with the Saudi ambassador of the U.S. |
361 | 01:07:51,371 | 01:07:53,286 | who happens to be the brother of the Crown Prince. | who happens to be the brother of the Crown Prince. |
362 | 01:07:53,330 | 01:07:56,376 | First response was that he was looking into the matter. | First response was that he was looking into the matter. |
363 | 01:08:40,812 | 01:08:44,946 | First day, there was 10 or 12 journalists | First day, there was 10 or 12 journalists |
364 | 01:08:44,990 | 01:08:46,296 | waiting outside. | waiting outside. |
365 | 01:08:46,339 | 01:08:48,254 | The day after, hundreds. | The day after, hundreds. |
366 | 01:08:50,169 | 01:08:51,692 | He entered this embassy... | He entered this embassy... |
367 | 01:08:51,736 | 01:08:55,000 | Two days later, 200. | Two days later, 200. |
368 | 01:08:55,043 | 01:08:57,785 | We demand his immediate release if alive. | We demand his immediate release if alive. |
369 | 01:09:52,840 | 01:09:54,364 | I am concerned about it. | I am concerned about it. |
370 | 01:09:54,407 | 01:09:55,930 | I don't like hearing about it. | I don't like hearing about it. |
371 | 01:09:55,974 | 01:09:58,890 | And hopefully, that will sort itself out. | And hopefully, that will sort itself out. |
372 | 01:09:58,933 | 01:10:01,414 | Right now, nobody knows anything about it, | Right now, nobody knows anything about it, |
373 | 01:10:01,458 | 01:10:03,895 | but there's somepretty bad stories going around. | but there's somepretty bad stories going around. |
374 | 01:10:03,938 | 01:10:06,158 | I do not like it. Thank you. I'll see you. | I do not like it. Thank you. I'll see you. |
375 | 01:10:06,202 | 01:10:08,029 | I'll see you at 10:00. | I'll see you at 10:00. |
376 | 01:10:28,398 | 01:10:30,226 | I will not let you down | I will not let you down |
377 | 01:10:30,269 | 01:10:34,230 | and I will not stop defending you. | and I will not stop defending you. |
378 | 01:10:34,273 | 01:10:35,883 | Always be well. | Always be well. |
379 | 01:11:14,226 | 01:11:16,489 | To breaking news now, we are getting reports | To breaking news now, we are getting reports |
380 | 01:11:16,533 | 01:11:18,317 | that Turkish authorities believe that | that Turkish authorities believe that |
381 | 01:11:18,361 | 01:11:19,536 | prominent Saudi journalist | prominent Saudi journalist |
382 | 01:11:19,579 | 01:11:21,364 | Jamal Khashoggi has been killed. | Jamal Khashoggi has been killed. |
383 | 01:11:21,407 | 01:11:23,191 | -Jamal Khashoggi-- -Jamal Khashoggi-- | -Jamal Khashoggi-- -Jamal Khashoggi-- |
384 | 01:11:25,846 | 01:11:27,544 | We heard one lie after another | We heard one lie after another |
385 | 01:11:27,587 | 01:11:29,459 | from the Saudi government. | from the Saudi government. |
386 | 01:11:29,502 | 01:11:31,591 | Saudi Arabia has denied angrily | Saudi Arabia has denied angrily |
387 | 01:11:31,635 | 01:11:34,028 | that it abducted, harmed, or killed Khashoggi. | that it abducted, harmed, or killed Khashoggi. |
388 | 01:11:34,072 | 01:11:36,030 | Now suddenly, the country is admitting | Now suddenly, the country is admitting |
389 | 01:11:36,074 | 01:11:38,642 | that Khashoggi did die inside that building. | that Khashoggi did die inside that building. |
390 | 01:11:38,685 | 01:11:42,341 | We heard that he suffocated accidentally. | We heard that he suffocated accidentally. |
391 | 01:11:42,385 | 01:11:44,256 | We heard that there was a drug administered | We heard that there was a drug administered |
392 | 01:11:44,300 | 01:11:45,866 | that had an unintended effect. | that had an unintended effect. |
393 | 01:11:45,910 | 01:11:48,913 | The government now says he died in a fist fight. | The government now says he died in a fist fight. |
394 | 01:12:05,886 | 01:12:09,455 | A Saudi agent was captured on surveillance cameras | A Saudi agent was captured on surveillance cameras |
395 | 01:12:09,499 | 01:12:13,546 | in Istanbul wearing Khashoggi's clothes. | in Istanbul wearing Khashoggi's clothes. |
396 | 01:12:50,888 | 01:12:53,020 | The Washington Post has just posted | The Washington Post has just posted |
397 | 01:12:53,064 | 01:12:55,893 | the last piece Jamal Khashoggi wrote, | the last piece Jamal Khashoggi wrote, |
398 | 01:12:55,936 | 01:12:57,895 | filed shortly before he was seen | filed shortly before he was seen |
399 | 01:12:57,938 | 01:13:01,507 | entering that Saudi consulate in Turkey. | entering that Saudi consulate in Turkey. |
400 | 01:13:01,551 | 01:13:04,380 | Tonight, there are still many unanswered questions | Tonight, there are still many unanswered questions |
401 | 01:13:04,423 | 01:13:05,729 | in his disappearance. | in his disappearance. |
402 | 01:13:05,772 | 01:13:07,905 | Earlier today, Turkish investigators | Earlier today, Turkish investigators |
403 | 01:13:07,948 | 01:13:09,602 | search the residence of... | search the residence of... |
404 | 01:13:40,981 | 01:13:42,505 | This one. | This one. |
405 | 01:17:44,050 | 01:17:47,010 | The court has issued arrest warrants | The court has issued arrest warrants |
406 | 01:17:47,053 | 01:17:48,838 | for two additional suspects | for two additional suspects |
407 | 01:17:48,881 | 01:17:50,927 | in the killing of Jamal Khashoggi. | in the killing of Jamal Khashoggi. |
408 | 01:17:50,970 | 01:17:54,757 | Ahmed al-Asiri was the country's Deputy Intelligence Chief | Ahmed al-Asiri was the country's Deputy Intelligence Chief |
409 | 01:17:54,800 | 01:17:58,630 | and high-ranking adviser to the Crown Prince. | and high-ranking adviser to the Crown Prince. |
410 | 01:17:58,674 | 01:18:01,851 | Saud al-Qahtani was a Royal Court Adviser | Saud al-Qahtani was a Royal Court Adviser |
411 | 01:18:01,894 | 01:18:04,810 | and key counselor to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. | and key counselor to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. |
412 | 01:18:39,366 | 01:18:41,412 | The chief prosecutor who's been holding | The chief prosecutor who's been holding |
413 | 01:18:41,455 | 01:18:44,763 | a joint investigation with his Saudi counterpart this week | a joint investigation with his Saudi counterpart this week |
414 | 01:18:44,807 | 01:18:47,200 | issued a statement following their talks. | issued a statement following their talks. |
415 | 01:18:47,244 | 01:18:50,638 | He says discussions yielded no concrete results, | He says discussions yielded no concrete results, |
416 | 01:18:50,682 | 01:18:55,643 | despite Turkey's intentions to reveal the truth. | despite Turkey's intentions to reveal the truth. |
417 | 01:19:06,480 | 01:19:08,918 | Sir, can you say anything from the investigation? | Sir, can you say anything from the investigation? |
418 | 01:19:08,961 | 01:19:10,963 | Where is Khashoggi's body? | Where is Khashoggi's body? |
419 | 01:19:54,790 | 01:19:56,661 | My name is John Scott-Railton. | My name is John Scott-Railton. |
420 | 01:19:56,704 | 01:19:59,795 | I'm a senior researcher at a place called The Citizen Lab. | I'm a senior researcher at a place called The Citizen Lab. |
421 | 01:20:02,885 | 01:20:06,976 | It's this group of researchers and investigators | It's this group of researchers and investigators |
422 | 01:20:07,019 | 01:20:08,629 | that try to understand | that try to understand |
423 | 01:20:08,673 | 01:20:09,805 | the digital things | the digital things |
424 | 01:20:09,848 | 01:20:12,068 | that are targeting civil society, | that are targeting civil society, |
425 | 01:20:12,111 | 01:20:16,028 | so journalists, activists, everybody really, | so journalists, activists, everybody really, |
426 | 01:20:16,072 | 01:20:19,902 | who's part of what constitutes a flourishing democracy. | who's part of what constitutes a flourishing democracy. |
427 | 01:20:23,079 | 01:20:26,299 | It's almost a miracle that we found Omar. | It's almost a miracle that we found Omar. |
428 | 01:20:26,343 | 01:20:27,953 | It's a miracle that he survived this long. | It's a miracle that he survived this long. |
429 | 01:20:30,521 | 01:20:34,394 | There's sort of a growing global market for spyware. | There's sort of a growing global market for spyware. |
430 | 01:20:34,438 | 01:20:37,484 | Governments want to listen to encrypted phone calls. | Governments want to listen to encrypted phone calls. |
431 | 01:20:37,528 | 01:20:39,095 | They wanna read your WhatsApp chats, | They wanna read your WhatsApp chats, |
432 | 01:20:39,138 | 01:20:41,575 | your Signal chats, and they can't do it | your Signal chats, and they can't do it |
433 | 01:20:41,619 | 01:20:43,490 | as that chat goes across their network. | as that chat goes across their network. |
434 | 01:20:43,534 | 01:20:46,058 | So, their solution to this is, let's hack the phone. | So, their solution to this is, let's hack the phone. |
435 | 01:20:46,102 | 01:20:48,713 | Was the CIA aware | Was the CIA aware |
436 | 01:20:48,756 | 01:20:51,672 | that the Saudis had purchased spyware from Israel? | that the Saudis had purchased spyware from Israel? |
437 | 01:20:51,716 | 01:20:53,544 | I'm not going to confirm or deny. | I'm not going to confirm or deny. |
438 | 01:20:53,587 | 01:20:55,981 | That's either-- We're aware of certain things. | That's either-- We're aware of certain things. |
439 | 01:20:56,025 | 01:20:58,984 | All's I will say is that the Saudi services | All's I will say is that the Saudi services |
440 | 01:20:59,028 | 01:21:01,944 | are able to have insight into what their citizens | are able to have insight into what their citizens |
441 | 01:21:01,987 | 01:21:05,425 | or what even non-Saudi citizens were doing | or what even non-Saudi citizens were doing |
442 | 01:21:05,469 | 01:21:06,862 | inside the Kingdom and outside. | inside the Kingdom and outside. |
443 | 01:21:08,646 | 01:21:10,387 | Saudi Arabia is definitely | Saudi Arabia is definitely |
444 | 01:21:10,430 | 01:21:12,955 | a major player in the space. | a major player in the space. |
445 | 01:21:12,998 | 01:21:16,567 | Throughout my entire career, I focused on the top four-- | Throughout my entire career, I focused on the top four-- |
446 | 01:21:16,610 | 01:21:19,875 | Russia, China, Iran, North Korea. | Russia, China, Iran, North Korea. |
447 | 01:21:19,918 | 01:21:21,833 | And I think it's safe to say that Saudi Arabia | And I think it's safe to say that Saudi Arabia |
448 | 01:21:21,877 | 01:21:24,618 | has comparable skills and abilities | has comparable skills and abilities |
449 | 01:21:24,662 | 01:21:27,752 | to conduct cyber operations. | to conduct cyber operations. |
450 | 01:21:27,795 | 01:21:29,536 | I think it's important for people to understand | I think it's important for people to understand |
451 | 01:21:29,580 | 01:21:32,496 | how easy it is to access these tools. | how easy it is to access these tools. |
452 | 01:21:38,371 | 01:21:42,071 | Thanks to an Israeli company called NSO, | Thanks to an Israeli company called NSO, |
453 | 01:21:42,114 | 01:21:45,639 | the Saudis have the best hacking technology | the Saudis have the best hacking technology |
454 | 01:21:45,683 | 01:21:47,119 | that money can buy. | that money can buy. |
455 | 01:21:48,686 | 01:21:50,688 | Pegasus Version Two. | Pegasus Version Two. |
456 | 01:21:54,648 | 01:21:57,521 | Pegasus is a piece of software, | Pegasus is a piece of software, |
457 | 01:21:57,564 | 01:21:59,871 | but it's also a capability, | but it's also a capability, |
458 | 01:21:59,915 | 01:22:02,656 | it's the capability to infect a phone | it's the capability to infect a phone |
459 | 01:22:02,700 | 01:22:05,007 | and turn it into a digital spy | and turn it into a digital spy |
460 | 01:22:05,050 | 01:22:07,357 | in the pocket of the victim-- | in the pocket of the victim-- |
461 | 01:22:07,400 | 01:22:10,969 | siphoning off private and encrypted chats, | siphoning off private and encrypted chats, |
462 | 01:22:11,013 | 01:22:12,840 | photographs, messages, | photographs, messages, |
463 | 01:22:12,884 | 01:22:15,452 | even enabling the microphone and the camera, | even enabling the microphone and the camera, |
464 | 01:22:15,495 | 01:22:18,150 | turn that phone into a bug in a room. | turn that phone into a bug in a room. |
465 | 01:22:19,891 | 01:22:21,849 | They sent a malicious link. | They sent a malicious link. |
466 | 01:22:21,893 | 01:22:24,026 | The link looks legit, you know, it looks like, for example, | The link looks legit, you know, it looks like, for example, |
467 | 01:22:24,069 | 01:22:26,028 | you know, boarding pass, | you know, boarding pass, |
468 | 01:22:26,071 | 01:22:29,770 | you click on it and it actually goes where it's supposed to go, | you click on it and it actually goes where it's supposed to go, |
469 | 01:22:29,814 | 01:22:31,598 | but in between, it's downloading something | but in between, it's downloading something |
470 | 01:22:31,642 | 01:22:33,731 | into your device. | into your device. |
471 | 01:22:33,774 | 01:22:36,560 | Once it compromises mobile devices, | Once it compromises mobile devices, |
472 | 01:22:36,603 | 01:22:38,431 | the end user of the Pegasus tool | the end user of the Pegasus tool |
473 | 01:22:38,475 | 01:22:41,391 | has unfettered access to that device. | has unfettered access to that device. |
474 | 01:22:44,046 | 01:22:47,963 | Think of your phone today, the people you talk to, | Think of your phone today, the people you talk to, |
475 | 01:22:48,006 | 01:22:50,748 | the photos you take, the places you go, | the photos you take, the places you go, |
476 | 01:22:50,791 | 01:22:53,577 | the things that you say around and into your phone, right? | the things that you say around and into your phone, right? |
477 | 01:22:53,620 | 01:22:56,797 | This is a huge slice of your life. | This is a huge slice of your life. |
478 | 01:22:56,841 | 01:22:59,800 | And that stuff is tremendously valuable | And that stuff is tremendously valuable |
479 | 01:22:59,844 | 01:23:01,933 | to somebody who wants to monitor you, | to somebody who wants to monitor you, |
480 | 01:23:01,977 | 01:23:03,195 | who wants to figure out what you're doing | who wants to figure out what you're doing |
481 | 01:23:03,239 | 01:23:04,631 | and maybe who wants to subvert | and maybe who wants to subvert |
482 | 01:23:04,675 | 01:23:07,286 | your political activity. | your political activity. |
483 | 01:23:07,330 | 01:23:11,421 | Once Pegasus takes control of a phone, it's game over. | Once Pegasus takes control of a phone, it's game over. |
484 | 01:23:30,048 | 01:23:32,703 | To share information, an infected device | To share information, an infected device |
485 | 01:23:32,746 | 01:23:36,576 | is gonna be talking to the servers that control it. | is gonna be talking to the servers that control it. |
486 | 01:23:36,620 | 01:23:39,492 | It has to phone home. | It has to phone home. |
487 | 01:23:39,536 | 01:23:42,104 | And so we had developed a technique | And so we had developed a technique |
488 | 01:23:42,147 | 01:23:46,630 | to see what networks might have infected devices. | to see what networks might have infected devices. |
489 | 01:23:47,979 | 01:23:49,285 | So, what we found in Montreal | So, what we found in Montreal |
490 | 01:23:49,328 | 01:23:50,895 | in December 2018 | in December 2018 |
491 | 01:23:50,938 | 01:23:53,289 | is that there appeared to be a device | is that there appeared to be a device |
492 | 01:23:53,332 | 01:23:55,465 | in the University Network phoning home | in the University Network phoning home |
493 | 01:23:55,508 | 01:23:57,771 | to a cluster of servers that belonged | to a cluster of servers that belonged |
494 | 01:23:57,815 | 01:24:00,339 | to Saudi Arabia's Pegasus deployment. | to Saudi Arabia's Pegasus deployment. |
495 | 01:24:34,069 | 01:24:36,897 | So, we go to Montreal, we sit with Omar | So, we go to Montreal, we sit with Omar |
496 | 01:24:36,941 | 01:24:41,032 | and actually find the message on Omar's phone | and actually find the message on Omar's phone |
497 | 01:24:41,076 | 01:24:43,426 | that we believe led to that infection. | that we believe led to that infection. |
498 | 01:24:43,469 | 01:24:46,646 | It looks like a DHL shipping tracking notification. | It looks like a DHL shipping tracking notification. |
499 | 01:24:46,690 | 01:24:48,561 | Only it isn't. | Only it isn't. |
500 | 01:28:58,245 | 01:29:01,597 | Are you being allowed in? Are the Saudis allowing you in? | Are you being allowed in? Are the Saudis allowing you in? |
501 | 01:29:18,527 | 01:29:21,138 | Some of the tape recordings we've heard | Some of the tape recordings we've heard |
502 | 01:29:21,181 | 01:29:22,835 | preceded the killing. | preceded the killing. |
503 | 01:29:41,071 | 01:29:42,768 | "Joints will be separated. | "Joints will be separated. |
504 | 01:29:42,812 | 01:29:44,640 | "It's not a problem. | "It's not a problem. |
505 | 01:30:56,973 | 01:30:59,497 | The conversation turns to, | The conversation turns to, |
506 | 01:30:59,541 | 01:31:02,457 | "Will you come back to Saudi Arabia?" | "Will you come back to Saudi Arabia?" |
507 | 01:31:40,320 | 01:31:44,455 | The fear is escalating in his voice. | The fear is escalating in his voice. |
508 | 01:31:54,596 | 01:31:56,685 | Then we hear a struggle. | Then we hear a struggle. |
509 | 01:32:34,723 | 01:32:36,812 | You can hear the other people | You can hear the other people |
510 | 01:33:05,405 | 01:33:10,193 | The most difficult part of those recordings | The most difficult part of those recordings |
511 | 01:33:44,706 | 01:33:48,231 | I was thinking, when he entered his consulate... | I was thinking, when he entered his consulate... |
512 | 01:35:14,099 | 01:35:16,754 | The king firmly denied any knowledge of it. | The king firmly denied any knowledge of it. |
513 | 01:35:16,798 | 01:35:18,669 | I don't wanna get into his mind. | I don't wanna get into his mind. |
514 | 01:35:18,713 | 01:35:20,540 | But it sounded to me like | But it sounded to me like |
515 | 01:35:20,584 | 01:35:24,283 | maybe these could have been rogue killers. Who knows? | maybe these could have been rogue killers. Who knows? |
516 | 01:35:27,243 | 01:35:29,462 | World leaders are gathering in Saudi Arabia | World leaders are gathering in Saudi Arabia |
517 | 01:35:29,506 | 01:35:32,683 | for a summit commonly known as "Davos in the desert." | for a summit commonly known as "Davos in the desert." |
518 | 01:35:32,727 | 01:35:34,772 | A couple weeks after the murder, | A couple weeks after the murder, |
519 | 01:35:34,816 | 01:35:37,732 | there was a big, important conference for Saudi Arabia. | there was a big, important conference for Saudi Arabia. |
520 | 01:35:37,775 | 01:35:41,605 | Davos in the desert is supposed to promote Saudi Crown Prince, | Davos in the desert is supposed to promote Saudi Crown Prince, |
521 | 01:35:41,648 | 01:35:45,217 | Mohammed bin Salman's reform vision for the Kingdom. | Mohammed bin Salman's reform vision for the Kingdom. |
522 | 01:35:45,261 | 01:35:48,525 | Davos in the desert is the make or break part of Vision 2030. | Davos in the desert is the make or break part of Vision 2030. |
523 | 01:35:50,135 | 01:35:53,748 | But it ended up being a fiasco for MBS. | But it ended up being a fiasco for MBS. |
524 | 01:35:59,492 | 01:36:03,496 | The Jamal story | The Jamal story |
525 | 01:36:03,540 | 01:36:05,542 | galvanized public attention | galvanized public attention |
526 | 01:36:05,585 | 01:36:08,153 | in the United States, around the world. | in the United States, around the world. |
527 | 01:36:11,766 | 01:36:16,205 | It may destroy MBS' hopes for modernizing the Kingdom | It may destroy MBS' hopes for modernizing the Kingdom |
528 | 01:36:16,248 | 01:36:18,163 | because he needs investors, | because he needs investors, |
529 | 01:36:18,207 | 01:36:20,470 | he needs people who invest in the Kingdom. | he needs people who invest in the Kingdom. |
530 | 01:36:20,513 | 01:36:23,560 | And right now, he has become toxic. | And right now, he has become toxic. |
531 | 01:36:25,605 | 01:36:27,607 | As pressure on Saudi mounts, | As pressure on Saudi mounts, |
532 | 01:36:27,651 | 01:36:30,785 | several U.S. media organizationsand business leaders | several U.S. media organizationsand business leaders |
533 | 01:36:30,828 | 01:36:34,745 | have pulled out of a major investment conference in Riyadh. | have pulled out of a major investment conference in Riyadh. |
534 | 01:36:34,789 | 01:36:36,312 | The conference happens, | The conference happens, |
535 | 01:36:36,355 | 01:36:39,054 | all those important guests eventually don't go. | all those important guests eventually don't go. |
536 | 01:36:39,097 | 01:36:43,623 | Jeff Bezos was supposed to be a secret guest. | Jeff Bezos was supposed to be a secret guest. |
537 | 01:36:43,667 | 01:36:47,453 | Bezos is someone with a direct relationship with MBS. | Bezos is someone with a direct relationship with MBS. |
538 | 01:36:47,497 | 01:36:50,543 | They messaged each other. | They messaged each other. |
539 | 01:36:50,587 | 01:36:52,328 | They talked about business. They talked about, you know, | They talked about business. They talked about, you know, |
540 | 01:36:52,371 | 01:36:55,374 | all the great things they're gonna do together. | all the great things they're gonna do together. |
541 | 01:36:55,418 | 01:36:56,767 | And he was supposed to declare | And he was supposed to declare |
542 | 01:36:56,811 | 01:37:00,727 | this enormous deal at this conference. | this enormous deal at this conference. |
543 | 01:37:00,771 | 01:37:02,164 | But after the murder, | But after the murder, |
544 | 01:37:02,207 | 01:37:06,168 | Bezos just stopped all contact with MBS. | Bezos just stopped all contact with MBS. |
545 | 01:37:06,211 | 01:37:07,734 | Bezos owns The Washington Post, | Bezos owns The Washington Post, |
546 | 01:37:07,778 | 01:37:10,563 | which means that Jamal worked for him. | which means that Jamal worked for him. |
547 | 01:37:10,607 | 01:37:15,090 | It seemed that MBS expected Bezos to say, "You know what? | It seemed that MBS expected Bezos to say, "You know what? |
548 | 01:37:15,133 | 01:37:16,656 | "I control this newspaper | "I control this newspaper |
549 | 01:37:16,700 | 01:37:18,310 | and I can curb them. I can tell them, | and I can curb them. I can tell them, |
550 | 01:37:18,354 | 01:37:20,225 | you know, don't make a big deal about this." | you know, don't make a big deal about this." |
551 | 01:37:20,269 | 01:37:23,315 | But when push came to shove, Bezos did not interfere | But when push came to shove, Bezos did not interfere |
552 | 01:37:23,359 | 01:37:26,710 | whenThe Washington Post started a whole campaign. | whenThe Washington Post started a whole campaign. |
553 | 01:37:26,753 | 01:37:28,625 | "Justice for Jamal". | "Justice for Jamal". |
554 | 01:37:30,061 | 01:37:32,759 | MBS saw that as betrayal. | MBS saw that as betrayal. |
555 | 01:37:34,152 | 01:37:36,676 | After Davos in the desert, | After Davos in the desert, |
556 | 01:37:36,720 | 01:37:38,069 | we have evidence | we have evidence |
557 | 01:37:38,113 | 01:37:39,941 | that Jeff Bezos' phone | that Jeff Bezos' phone |
558 | 01:37:39,984 | 01:37:43,945 | had been infected with malware. | had been infected with malware. |
559 | 01:37:43,988 | 01:37:47,600 | And the way in which that technology was delivered | And the way in which that technology was delivered |
560 | 01:37:47,644 | 01:37:49,341 | to his phone was through a text | to his phone was through a text |
561 | 01:37:49,385 | 01:37:52,649 | from the Crown Prince himself. | from the Crown Prince himself. |
562 | 01:37:54,303 | 01:37:56,696 | I am the United Nations Special Rapporteur | I am the United Nations Special Rapporteur |
563 | 01:37:56,740 | 01:37:59,351 | on Freedom of Opinion and Expression. | on Freedom of Opinion and Expression. |
564 | 01:37:59,395 | 01:38:03,268 | The work that I've been doing over the last 18 months or so | The work that I've been doing over the last 18 months or so |
565 | 01:38:03,312 | 01:38:05,618 | is on the private surveillance industry. | is on the private surveillance industry. |
566 | 01:38:10,797 | 01:38:13,757 | A video was sent in 2018 | A video was sent in 2018 |
567 | 01:38:13,800 | 01:38:15,759 | from MBS' WhatsApp account | from MBS' WhatsApp account |
568 | 01:38:15,802 | 01:38:17,543 | to Jeff Bezos' phone. | to Jeff Bezos' phone. |
569 | 01:38:18,893 | 01:38:21,721 | Then we see this massive increase | Then we see this massive increase |
570 | 01:38:21,765 | 01:38:25,334 | in data leaving the phone. | in data leaving the phone. |
571 | 01:38:25,377 | 01:38:27,031 | It was only after | It was only after |
572 | 01:38:27,075 | 01:38:28,946 | the killing of Jamal Khashoggi | the killing of Jamal Khashoggi |
573 | 01:38:28,990 | 01:38:31,775 | thatThe Washington Post was an important target | thatThe Washington Post was an important target |
574 | 01:38:31,818 | 01:38:34,169 | for Saudi Arabia. | for Saudi Arabia. |
575 | 01:38:34,212 | 01:38:38,303 | This was exactly the moment whenThe National Enquirer | This was exactly the moment whenThe National Enquirer |
576 | 01:38:38,347 | 01:38:40,523 | was saying to Bezos, | was saying to Bezos, |
577 | 01:38:40,566 | 01:38:44,440 | "We have evidence connecting you to an affair." | "We have evidence connecting you to an affair." |
578 | 01:38:45,745 | 01:38:49,271 | So Bezos' security team is learning | So Bezos' security team is learning |
579 | 01:38:49,314 | 01:38:51,403 | that his phone may have been compromised. | that his phone may have been compromised. |
580 | 01:38:51,447 | 01:38:53,057 | But at the same time, | But at the same time, |
581 | 01:38:53,101 | 01:38:56,017 | Bezos is getting WhatsApp messages | Bezos is getting WhatsApp messages |
582 | 01:38:56,060 | 01:38:57,932 | from MBS that are strange. | from MBS that are strange. |
583 | 01:38:59,716 | 01:39:01,761 | Essentially, "Whatever you're hearing | Essentially, "Whatever you're hearing |
584 | 01:39:01,805 | 01:39:05,461 | about Saudi involvement in this is not true." | about Saudi involvement in this is not true." |
585 | 01:39:05,504 | 01:39:08,420 | In order to send those kinds of text messages, | In order to send those kinds of text messages, |
586 | 01:39:08,464 | 01:39:09,944 | MBS has to know | MBS has to know |
587 | 01:39:09,987 | 01:39:13,164 | what Bezos is learning about Saudi involvement. | what Bezos is learning about Saudi involvement. |
588 | 01:39:14,949 | 01:39:16,515 | And then what we see is that | And then what we see is that |
589 | 01:39:16,559 | 01:39:19,475 | there's this massive Saudi online campaign, | there's this massive Saudi online campaign, |
590 | 01:39:19,518 | 01:39:20,737 | a Twitter campaign, | a Twitter campaign, |
591 | 01:39:20,780 | 01:39:22,652 | against Jeff Bezos. | against Jeff Bezos. |
592 | 01:39:24,219 | 01:39:25,698 | The intention was to humiliate | The intention was to humiliate |
593 | 01:39:25,742 | 01:39:28,005 | and to punish Bezos. | and to punish Bezos. |
594 | 01:39:28,049 | 01:39:31,878 | It was exactly the same thing that they did to Jamal. | It was exactly the same thing that they did to Jamal. |
595 | 01:39:34,577 | 01:39:37,362 | That mere fact that MBS has the reach | That mere fact that MBS has the reach |
596 | 01:39:37,406 | 01:39:41,584 | to conduct surveillance on the richest man in the world | to conduct surveillance on the richest man in the world |
597 | 01:39:41,627 | 01:39:44,021 | is not only striking, but it's scary. | is not only striking, but it's scary. |
598 | 01:39:46,893 | 01:39:49,809 | Earlier today, CIA Director, Gina Haspel briefed | Earlier today, CIA Director, Gina Haspel briefed |
599 | 01:39:49,853 | 01:39:52,638 | a select group of high ranking senators on the killing | a select group of high ranking senators on the killing |
600 | 01:39:52,682 | 01:39:55,467 | ofWashington Post columnist, Jamal Khashoggi. | ofWashington Post columnist, Jamal Khashoggi. |
601 | 01:39:55,511 | 01:39:58,514 | The CIA Director, Gina Haspel met with the Turks | The CIA Director, Gina Haspel met with the Turks |
602 | 01:39:58,557 | 01:40:02,083 | and said, "Show me the audio. Let me hear it." | and said, "Show me the audio. Let me hear it." |
603 | 01:40:03,649 | 01:40:06,435 | The CIA Director's job is to present the information | The CIA Director's job is to present the information |
604 | 01:40:06,478 | 01:40:10,091 | to a policymaker so they can make a decision on how to act. | to a policymaker so they can make a decision on how to act. |
605 | 01:40:10,134 | 01:40:11,918 | This assessment was different. | This assessment was different. |
606 | 01:40:11,962 | 01:40:15,183 | If the Crown Prince went in front of a jury, | If the Crown Prince went in front of a jury, |
607 | 01:40:15,226 | 01:40:17,576 | he would be convicted in 30 minutes. | he would be convicted in 30 minutes. |
608 | 01:40:17,620 | 01:40:19,404 | Yes. | Yes. |
609 | 01:40:19,448 | 01:40:22,103 | They're buying hundreds of billions of dollars' worth | They're buying hundreds of billions of dollars' worth |
610 | 01:40:22,146 | 01:40:23,843 | of things from this country. | of things from this country. |
611 | 01:40:23,887 | 01:40:26,542 | I'm not gonna destroy the economy for our country | I'm not gonna destroy the economy for our country |
612 | 01:40:26,585 | 01:40:29,066 | by being foolish with Saudi Arabia, so... | by being foolish with Saudi Arabia, so... |
613 | 01:40:29,110 | 01:40:31,851 | There's not a smoking gun, there's a smoking saw. | There's not a smoking gun, there's a smoking saw. |
614 | 01:40:31,895 | 01:40:33,462 | You have to be willfully blind | You have to be willfully blind |
615 | 01:40:33,505 | 01:40:36,856 | not to come to the conclusionthat this was orchestrated | not to come to the conclusionthat this was orchestrated |
616 | 01:40:36,900 | 01:40:42,079 | and organized by people in-- under the command of MBS. | and organized by people in-- under the command of MBS. |
617 | 01:40:42,123 | 01:40:43,472 | Did MBS lie to you, sir? | Did MBS lie to you, sir? |
618 | 01:40:43,515 | 01:40:45,561 | He told me thathe had nothing to do with it. | He told me thathe had nothing to do with it. |
619 | 01:40:45,604 | 01:40:48,085 | -But what if he's lying?-As recently as a few days ago. | -But what if he's lying?-As recently as a few days ago. |
620 | 01:40:48,129 | 01:40:50,740 | Did you just live with it because you need him? | Did you just live with it because you need him? |
621 | 01:40:50,783 | 01:40:52,959 | Well, will anybody really know, all right? | Well, will anybody really know, all right? |
622 | 01:40:53,003 | 01:40:54,352 | Will anybody really know? | Will anybody really know? |
623 | 01:40:54,396 | 01:40:55,832 | I have not seen, | I have not seen, |
624 | 01:40:55,875 | 01:40:58,182 | in 20 years covering intelligence, | in 20 years covering intelligence, |
625 | 01:40:58,226 | 01:41:02,186 | the conclusion from the CIA that is this confident | the conclusion from the CIA that is this confident |
626 | 01:41:02,230 | 01:41:05,276 | about the role of one person in an act. | about the role of one person in an act. |
627 | 01:41:05,320 | 01:41:07,496 | Everybody but the President agrees | Everybody but the President agrees |
628 | 01:41:07,539 | 01:41:09,063 | that Mohammed bin Salman ordered | that Mohammed bin Salman ordered |
629 | 01:41:09,106 | 01:41:11,021 | Jamal Khashoggi's assassination. | Jamal Khashoggi's assassination. |
630 | 01:42:39,892 | 01:42:42,808 | Nine, eight, seven... | Nine, eight, seven... |
631 | 01:43:06,136 | 01:43:08,182 | The first day they broadcast, | The first day they broadcast, |
632 | 01:43:08,225 | 01:43:12,447 | Jamal invites Shiite dissidents on the air, | Jamal invites Shiite dissidents on the air, |
633 | 01:43:12,490 | 01:43:16,277 | who were the people who the Bahrainian authorities most feared. | who were the people who the Bahrainian authorities most feared. |
634 | 01:45:16,397 | 01:45:17,702 | Are we so blind | Are we so blind |
635 | 01:45:17,746 | 01:45:20,052 | to the malign influence of Saudi Arabia | to the malign influence of Saudi Arabia |
636 | 01:45:20,096 | 01:45:21,924 | that we just give money and weapons | that we just give money and weapons |
637 | 01:45:21,967 | 01:45:24,840 | to anybody regardless of what they do? | to anybody regardless of what they do? |
638 | 01:45:24,883 | 01:45:28,365 | You can cut a dissident into pieces with a bone saw | You can cut a dissident into pieces with a bone saw |
639 | 01:45:28,409 | 01:45:30,498 | and we'll still give you weapons? | and we'll still give you weapons? |
640 | 01:47:25,874 | 01:47:27,092 | Thank you. | Thank you. |
641 | 01:47:27,136 | 01:47:29,530 | I now give the floor to Saudi Arabia. | I now give the floor to Saudi Arabia. |
642 | 01:47:32,097 | 01:47:33,359 | Thank you. | Thank you. |
643 | 01:47:33,403 | 01:47:35,361 | Accusations have been launched | Accusations have been launched |
644 | 01:47:35,405 | 01:47:38,147 | and fingers have been pointed, | and fingers have been pointed, |
645 | 01:47:38,190 | 01:47:42,760 | we reject any attempt to remove this | we reject any attempt to remove this |
646 | 01:47:42,804 | 01:47:45,459 | from our national justice system in Saudi Arabia | from our national justice system in Saudi Arabia |
647 | 01:47:45,502 | 01:47:47,330 | in respect to the form that that may take. | in respect to the form that that may take. |
648 | 01:47:47,373 | 01:47:48,810 | Many thanks. | Many thanks. |
649 | 01:48:11,833 | 01:48:14,575 | Did you order the murder of Jamal Khashoggi? | Did you order the murder of Jamal Khashoggi? |
650 | 01:48:15,924 | 01:48:17,839 | Absolutely not. | Absolutely not. |
651 | 01:48:17,882 | 01:48:19,623 | Some think that I should know | Some think that I should know |
652 | 01:48:19,667 | 01:48:21,146 | what three million people working | what three million people working |
653 | 01:48:21,190 | 01:48:23,714 | for the Saudi government do daily? | for the Saudi government do daily? |
654 | 01:48:23,758 | 01:48:25,455 | Absolutely not. | Absolutely not. |
655 | 01:48:29,415 | 01:48:32,331 | My name is Hatice Cengiz. | My name is Hatice Cengiz. |
656 | 01:48:32,375 | 01:48:34,943 | I'm addressing you as a victim, | I'm addressing you as a victim, |
657 | 01:48:34,986 | 01:48:39,730 | a title forced on me after the brutal murder of my Jamal. | a title forced on me after the brutal murder of my Jamal. |
658 | 01:48:42,211 | 01:48:47,216 | Jamal and I would have been husband and wife by now. | Jamal and I would have been husband and wife by now. |
659 | 01:48:51,437 | 01:48:55,964 | The failure to punish Jamal's murderers affects us all. | The failure to punish Jamal's murderers affects us all. |
660 | 01:48:57,618 | 01:49:02,231 | But also democracy, human rights, and freedom. | But also democracy, human rights, and freedom. |
661 | 01:49:04,494 | 01:49:09,238 | Mr. Chair, the truth always wins. | Mr. Chair, the truth always wins. |
662 | 01:49:09,281 | 01:49:11,588 | History will take note. | History will take note. |
663 | 01:49:11,632 | 01:49:14,678 | Please take action. Thank you. | Please take action. Thank you. |
664 | 01:52:16,251 | 01:52:19,036 | Hatice, you paced that street | Hatice, you paced that street |
665 | 01:52:19,080 | 01:52:21,822 | and waiting for hours. | and waiting for hours. |
666 | 01:52:21,865 | 01:52:26,391 | No one should ever have to endure what you did. | No one should ever have to endure what you did. |
667 | 01:52:26,435 | 01:52:28,350 | We are here | We are here |
668 | 01:52:28,393 | 01:52:30,004 | and you are not alone. | and you are not alone. |