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1 | 00:00:01,960 | 00:00:04,879 | Hey, Dave Filoni, Executive Producer of Star Wars Rebels | Hey, Dave Filoni, Executive Producer of Star Wars Rebels |
2 | 00:00:04,963 | 00:00:09,134 | here to talk about the big finale, Family Reunion - and Farewell. | here to talk about the big finale, Family Reunion - and Farewell. |
3 | 00:00:11,887 | 00:00:14,556 | It's a difficult thing to make a finale... | It's a difficult thing to make a finale... |
4 | 00:00:14,931 | 00:00:17,267 | I guess it goes without saying. | I guess it goes without saying. |
5 | 00:00:17,642 | 00:00:19,393 | But, in order to attack this, | But, in order to attack this, |
6 | 00:00:19,477 | 00:00:23,064 | I actually studied and rewatched a bunch of finales... | I actually studied and rewatched a bunch of finales... |
7 | 00:00:23,857 | 00:00:26,901 | that I'd seen over the years that appeared on television, | that I'd seen over the years that appeared on television, |
8 | 00:00:26,985 | 00:00:28,444 | and I read a lot of interviews | and I read a lot of interviews |
9 | 00:00:28,528 | 00:00:34,283 | with creators that had done series | with creators that had done series |
10 | 00:00:34,367 | 00:00:36,369 | and what they thought had been successful, | and what they thought had been successful, |
11 | 00:00:36,453 | 00:00:40,998 | what they thought wasn't successful, how the audience had responded. | what they thought wasn't successful, how the audience had responded. |
12 | 00:00:41,082 | 00:00:47,130 | And I factored a lot of those into what we wrote... | And I factored a lot of those into what we wrote... |
13 | 00:00:47,839 | 00:00:50,717 | and how I directed these final episodes... | and how I directed these final episodes... |
14 | 00:00:51,134 | 00:00:56,931 | to try to be the most fulfilling, worthwhile adventure for people | to try to be the most fulfilling, worthwhile adventure for people |
15 | 00:00:57,015 | 00:00:59,100 | that had stuck with the show for years. | that had stuck with the show for years. |
16 | 00:01:01,895 | 00:01:06,107 | So, yeah, it's a challenge because everything you're doing, | So, yeah, it's a challenge because everything you're doing, |
17 | 00:01:06,191 | 00:01:12,364 | every moment, every line that's read is like a last moment | every moment, every line that's read is like a last moment |
18 | 00:01:12,489 | 00:01:14,139 | and it has to build to something. | and it has to build to something. |
19 | 00:01:14,366 | 00:01:16,576 | But you get no second chances at this point. | But you get no second chances at this point. |
20 | 00:01:16,660 | 00:01:19,410 | You can't say, well, we'll make the next episode better. | You can't say, well, we'll make the next episode better. |
21 | 00:01:20,330 | 00:01:23,875 | So, you've got a limited amount of time, | So, you've got a limited amount of time, |
22 | 00:01:23,959 | 00:01:27,670 | and you have to really focus your efforts | and you have to really focus your efforts |
23 | 00:01:27,754 | 00:01:32,509 | to getting this story told, and then it's over. | to getting this story told, and then it's over. |
24 | 00:01:32,801 | 00:01:34,970 | It's kind of a bizarre thing. | It's kind of a bizarre thing. |
25 | 00:01:36,429 | 00:01:41,101 | While I was making these episodes, or this episode... | While I was making these episodes, or this episode... |
26 | 00:01:41,851 | 00:01:44,353 | it's actually several episodes, why I say these episodes, | it's actually several episodes, why I say these episodes, |
27 | 00:01:44,437 | 00:01:48,316 | but I was able to work on refining earlier episodes | but I was able to work on refining earlier episodes |
28 | 00:01:48,400 | 00:01:51,152 | that were coming back and finaling | that were coming back and finaling |
29 | 00:01:52,445 | 00:01:54,990 | Earlier episodes to make this episode better... | Earlier episodes to make this episode better... |
30 | 00:01:55,407 | 00:01:59,369 | and to make more things connect across the whole season. | and to make more things connect across the whole season. |
31 | 00:01:59,786 | 00:02:02,830 | And that was a big benefit of actually ending the series was that | And that was a big benefit of actually ending the series was that |
32 | 00:02:02,914 | 00:02:07,502 | I could kind of work on big chunks of season four as one whole story. | I could kind of work on big chunks of season four as one whole story. |
33 | 00:02:08,211 | 00:02:12,590 | Usually, we would already have been working on the next season... | Usually, we would already have been working on the next season... |
34 | 00:02:13,758 | 00:02:16,427 | by the time we're doing the finale of any one season. | by the time we're doing the finale of any one season. |
35 | 00:02:16,511 | 00:02:17,386 | By the time we're doing the finale of any one season. | By the time we're doing the finale of any one season. |
36 | 00:02:17,470 | 00:02:23,559 | So, it was to our benefit to end and kind of rework things | So, it was to our benefit to end and kind of rework things |
37 | 00:02:23,643 | 00:02:25,979 | that needed a better fit. | that needed a better fit. |
38 | 00:02:27,647 | 00:02:29,357 | It was nice to see the clones. | It was nice to see the clones. |
39 | 00:02:29,441 | 00:02:33,152 | One of the ideas was to bring everybody back for this finale, | One of the ideas was to bring everybody back for this finale, |
40 | 00:02:33,236 | 00:02:39,450 | to show that Ezra, in his ability to see the best in people, | to show that Ezra, in his ability to see the best in people, |
41 | 00:02:39,534 | 00:02:41,534 | to trust people, to believe in people... | to trust people, to believe in people... |
42 | 00:02:41,995 | 00:02:44,789 | to have faith in people, would pay off, | to have faith in people, would pay off, |
43 | 00:02:44,873 | 00:02:49,961 | that he bridged the gap between all of these different characters... | that he bridged the gap between all of these different characters... |
44 | 00:02:50,462 | 00:02:54,966 | whether it be someone like Hondo, who, you know... | whether it be someone like Hondo, who, you know... |
45 | 00:02:55,342 | 00:02:57,927 | Hera could never particularly see the good in someone like Hondo, | Hera could never particularly see the good in someone like Hondo, |
46 | 00:02:58,011 | 00:03:00,554 | whether it be someone like the clones, | whether it be someone like the clones, |
47 | 00:03:00,638 | 00:03:05,601 | who Kanan starts out not really seeing eye to eye with for obvious reasons, | who Kanan starts out not really seeing eye to eye with for obvious reasons, |
48 | 00:03:05,685 | 00:03:12,024 | whether it be Kallus, who has huge problems with everybody there. | whether it be Kallus, who has huge problems with everybody there. |
49 | 00:03:12,108 | 00:03:13,859 | He's tried to kill them. | He's tried to kill them. |
50 | 00:03:13,943 | 00:03:18,114 | You look at the group of people that he's amassed, | You look at the group of people that he's amassed, |
51 | 00:03:18,198 | 00:03:23,619 | and you start to see, how it's to his benefit and how they are together, | and you start to see, how it's to his benefit and how they are together, |
52 | 00:03:23,703 | 00:03:25,871 | each bringing something to the table | each bringing something to the table |
53 | 00:03:25,955 | 00:03:28,625 | that will help them win the day, hopefully. | that will help them win the day, hopefully. |
54 | 00:03:30,043 | 00:03:33,046 | The Empire, as I've said before, is massive. | The Empire, as I've said before, is massive. |
55 | 00:03:33,880 | 00:03:38,718 | They have so much on their side that, I think in some ways, | They have so much on their side that, I think in some ways, |
56 | 00:03:38,802 | 00:03:44,766 | helps with them overlooking schemes like the Rebels have here... | helps with them overlooking schemes like the Rebels have here... |
57 | 00:03:45,308 | 00:03:48,853 | because it's such a small attempt in their mind. | because it's such a small attempt in their mind. |
58 | 00:03:49,187 | 00:03:50,813 | The Empire is almost so big, | The Empire is almost so big, |
59 | 00:03:50,897 | 00:03:56,361 | it's prepared for war with an enemy that never presents itself. | it's prepared for war with an enemy that never presents itself. |
60 | 00:03:56,861 | 00:03:59,489 | They're prepared for a galactic war... | They're prepared for a galactic war... |
61 | 00:04:00,073 | 00:04:02,533 | and they get these little skirmishes | and they get these little skirmishes |
62 | 00:04:02,617 | 00:04:05,829 | and incursions of small numbers of rebels... | and incursions of small numbers of rebels... |
63 | 00:04:07,080 | 00:04:09,457 | which is actually hard for them to counter. | which is actually hard for them to counter. |
64 | 00:04:10,500 | 00:04:17,214 | They're tricked, their faceless soldier becomes something | They're tricked, their faceless soldier becomes something |
65 | 00:04:17,298 | 00:04:21,719 | that the rebels are constantly using against them to their benefit... | that the rebels are constantly using against them to their benefit... |
66 | 00:04:22,095 | 00:04:25,765 | because they can blend in with these faceless soldiers rather easily. | because they can blend in with these faceless soldiers rather easily. |
67 | 00:04:28,101 | 00:04:32,146 | It's nice to see again Sabine now beginning to lead these assaults, | It's nice to see again Sabine now beginning to lead these assaults, |
68 | 00:04:32,230 | 00:04:33,857 | coming up with the plans. | coming up with the plans. |
69 | 00:04:34,816 | 00:04:37,819 | Gotta keep the Rebels under constant pressure. | Gotta keep the Rebels under constant pressure. |
70 | 00:04:39,362 | 00:04:42,198 | This sequence we cut down and cut down and cut down, | This sequence we cut down and cut down and cut down, |
71 | 00:04:42,449 | 00:04:46,118 | just to try to keep it moving, keep it very tight, | just to try to keep it moving, keep it very tight, |
72 | 00:04:46,202 | 00:04:49,622 | not to let things linger too much. | not to let things linger too much. |
73 | 00:04:49,706 | 00:04:52,041 | I don't know why those guys come out from behind their boxes. | I don't know why those guys come out from behind their boxes. |
74 | 00:04:52,125 | 00:04:53,875 | They should have stayed back there. | They should have stayed back there. |
75 | 00:04:54,919 | 00:04:58,005 | Stormtroopers, I don't know, sometimes, but I guess, you know, | Stormtroopers, I don't know, sometimes, but I guess, you know, |
76 | 00:04:58,089 | 00:05:01,092 | we gotta move the plot forward, so we gotta get rid of those troopers. | we gotta move the plot forward, so we gotta get rid of those troopers. |
77 | 00:05:01,176 | 00:05:02,760 | Oh, there you go, two more. | Oh, there you go, two more. |
78 | 00:05:03,344 | 00:05:05,594 | So, Stormtroopers go down, plot moves forward. | So, Stormtroopers go down, plot moves forward. |
79 | 00:05:06,514 | 00:05:08,164 | Look here, they all come running. | Look here, they all come running. |
80 | 00:05:08,516 | 00:05:12,270 | You have to do little things to keep the logic motivated. | You have to do little things to keep the logic motivated. |
81 | 00:05:13,771 | 00:05:15,571 | They've cut off all transmissions... | They've cut off all transmissions... |
82 | 00:05:16,524 | 00:05:18,484 | there are so many Imperials in this building alone, | there are so many Imperials in this building alone, |
83 | 00:05:18,568 | 00:05:21,568 | they could easily get overwhelmed, so you have to keep things | they could easily get overwhelmed, so you have to keep things |
84 | 00:05:21,821 | 00:05:24,990 | just a little bit on the reasonable side, | just a little bit on the reasonable side, |
85 | 00:05:25,074 | 00:05:26,474 | that they're not discovered. | that they're not discovered. |
86 | 00:05:27,452 | 00:05:30,079 | Trying to make it believable that these guys in this Command Room | Trying to make it believable that these guys in this Command Room |
87 | 00:05:30,163 | 00:05:32,663 | are basically isolated by the small band of rebels. | are basically isolated by the small band of rebels. |
88 | 00:05:34,417 | 00:05:38,630 | So they have no way of speaking to the rest of the building here. | So they have no way of speaking to the rest of the building here. |
89 | 00:05:39,088 | 00:05:43,259 | And the building is so big that nobody really notices that this is going on... | And the building is so big that nobody really notices that this is going on... |
90 | 00:05:44,135 | 00:05:47,639 | because it's a blip on the overall Imperial radar. | because it's a blip on the overall Imperial radar. |
91 | 00:05:48,556 | 00:05:49,557 | This is a joke. | This is a joke. |
92 | 00:05:49,641 | 00:05:53,770 | I actually took this joke out of the beginning of season three... | I actually took this joke out of the beginning of season three... |
93 | 00:05:54,437 | 00:05:56,814 | when Hondo says they can fly. | when Hondo says they can fly. |
94 | 00:05:57,398 | 00:06:02,237 | It used to be, an Ugnaught perished, | It used to be, an Ugnaught perished, |
95 | 00:06:02,362 | 00:06:08,117 | and he got exploded when he ran outside and the walker blew him away. | and he got exploded when he ran outside and the walker blew him away. |
96 | 00:06:09,786 | 00:06:11,454 | It just, it was one of my... | It just, it was one of my... |
97 | 00:06:11,538 | 00:06:16,041 | I love that line, it's actually a line from before that I put there | I love that line, it's actually a line from before that I put there |
98 | 00:06:16,125 | 00:06:19,003 | 'cause we changed it, and I wish I hadn't changed it, | 'cause we changed it, and I wish I hadn't changed it, |
99 | 00:06:19,087 | 00:06:21,589 | so I put it back in here. Sometimes that happens. | so I put it back in here. Sometimes that happens. |
100 | 00:06:21,923 | 00:06:25,385 | And it fit nicely here, so maybe it was meant for the finale. | And it fit nicely here, so maybe it was meant for the finale. |
101 | 00:06:26,177 | 00:06:30,347 | There's poor Governor Pryce. Governor Pryce, she's rather wicked. | There's poor Governor Pryce. Governor Pryce, she's rather wicked. |
102 | 00:06:30,431 | 00:06:33,726 | I actually had a large concern, | I actually had a large concern, |
103 | 00:06:34,018 | 00:06:37,397 | and I debated whether or not the rebels would know... | and I debated whether or not the rebels would know... |
104 | 00:06:37,897 | 00:06:40,274 | or if they had found out, or if they could have found out, | or if they had found out, or if they could have found out, |
105 | 00:06:40,358 | 00:06:44,361 | that Pryce was the one that gave the order to blow away the refinery | that Pryce was the one that gave the order to blow away the refinery |
106 | 00:06:44,445 | 00:06:47,198 | that, in the end, was what did Kanan in. | that, in the end, was what did Kanan in. |
107 | 00:06:48,783 | 00:06:52,828 | But if I had brought that up then I think it creates this larger issue | But if I had brought that up then I think it creates this larger issue |
108 | 00:06:52,912 | 00:06:56,499 | of how Hera's going to deal with the fact that Pryce is there, | of how Hera's going to deal with the fact that Pryce is there, |
109 | 00:06:56,583 | 00:06:58,542 | how Ezra's going to deal with the fact that Pryce is there, | how Ezra's going to deal with the fact that Pryce is there, |
110 | 00:06:58,626 | 00:07:02,026 | and do they want to seek revenge against her, or something like that? | and do they want to seek revenge against her, or something like that? |
111 | 00:07:03,590 | 00:07:06,676 | So, I didn't feel that was what the episode was about... | So, I didn't feel that was what the episode was about... |
112 | 00:07:07,719 | 00:07:12,389 | so I stayed away from that whole issue, and I think, at the end, | so I stayed away from that whole issue, and I think, at the end, |
113 | 00:07:12,473 | 00:07:16,769 | it makes our characters bigger people, it makes them more heroic. | it makes our characters bigger people, it makes them more heroic. |
114 | 00:07:16,853 | 00:07:20,231 | They're trying to save people, they're trying to move forward. | They're trying to save people, they're trying to move forward. |
115 | 00:07:20,315 | 00:07:22,399 | And they're not being embittered about what happened. | And they're not being embittered about what happened. |
116 | 00:07:22,483 | 00:07:24,777 | And plus, I don't think they really know. | And plus, I don't think they really know. |
117 | 00:07:26,529 | 00:07:29,629 | I don't think they know it's specifically Pryce in that walker. | I don't think they know it's specifically Pryce in that walker. |
118 | 00:07:30,408 | 00:07:33,869 | Pryce would have had to bring it up somehow. So, I think it's all right. | Pryce would have had to bring it up somehow. So, I think it's all right. |
119 | 00:07:33,953 | 00:07:35,496 | But those are some of the things that come to mind, | But those are some of the things that come to mind, |
120 | 00:07:35,580 | 00:07:38,040 | and then you decide, what are you going to do with it? | and then you decide, what are you going to do with it? |
121 | 00:07:38,124 | 00:07:40,459 | That's almost the terrible thing that happened there. | That's almost the terrible thing that happened there. |
122 | 00:07:40,543 | 00:07:43,212 | The wolf used to yelp, like a dog that got hurt, | The wolf used to yelp, like a dog that got hurt, |
123 | 00:07:43,296 | 00:07:45,396 | and I was like, no way, we can't have that. | and I was like, no way, we can't have that. |
124 | 00:07:45,840 | 00:07:47,342 | That's just too cruel. | That's just too cruel. |
125 | 00:07:50,011 | 00:07:52,111 | No one wants to watch that kind of show... | No one wants to watch that kind of show... |
126 | 00:07:52,764 | 00:07:55,350 | uh, with a dog getting hurt, that's just crazy. | uh, with a dog getting hurt, that's just crazy. |
127 | 00:07:56,476 | 00:07:56,476 | It's a fun little face-off. I like that Rukh runs for his little life here. | It's a fun little face-off. I like that Rukh runs for his little life here. |
128 | 00:07:56,560 | 00:08:00,480 | It's a fun little face-off. I like that Rukh runs for his little life here. | It's a fun little face-off. I like that Rukh runs for his little life here. |
129 | 00:08:01,648 | 00:08:07,028 | And Thrawn at the ready. Gotta bring Thrawn back into it. | And Thrawn at the ready. Gotta bring Thrawn back into it. |
130 | 00:08:09,614 | 00:08:13,993 | He's been off debating with the Empire about the usefulness of a Death Star | He's been off debating with the Empire about the usefulness of a Death Star |
131 | 00:08:14,285 | 00:08:17,162 | versus his TIE defender elites, | versus his TIE defender elites, |
132 | 00:08:17,246 | 00:08:20,291 | and he has lost that debate. | and he has lost that debate. |
133 | 00:08:21,125 | 00:08:22,543 | The Death Star will be back, | The Death Star will be back, |
134 | 00:08:22,627 | 00:08:28,633 | that his own TIE defenders will now be not created. | that his own TIE defenders will now be not created. |
135 | 00:08:29,092 | 00:08:31,051 | The rebels don't know that, of course, | The rebels don't know that, of course, |
136 | 00:08:31,135 | 00:08:33,804 | but Thrawn, he's seen the future of the Empire, | but Thrawn, he's seen the future of the Empire, |
137 | 00:08:33,888 | 00:08:35,306 | and I don't think even Thrawn is sure | and I don't think even Thrawn is sure |
138 | 00:08:35,390 | 00:08:38,434 | what it all means, destruction on that level. | what it all means, destruction on that level. |
139 | 00:08:38,518 | 00:08:41,418 | And that comes up a little later when he's talking to Ezra. | And that comes up a little later when he's talking to Ezra. |
140 | 00:08:41,813 | 00:08:47,193 | I'll try to remember to get into that, but this is a tricky gambit here. | I'll try to remember to get into that, but this is a tricky gambit here. |
141 | 00:08:47,944 | 00:08:50,154 | This is the other characters... | This is the other characters... |
142 | 00:08:52,949 | 00:08:55,493 | doing something that Ezra has normally done... | doing something that Ezra has normally done... |
143 | 00:08:56,285 | 00:09:02,375 | where you have Kallus and Ryder Azadi impersonating Imperials. | where you have Kallus and Ryder Azadi impersonating Imperials. |
144 | 00:09:03,000 | 00:09:08,839 | This is an Ezra Bridger trick that now these two are doing on behalf of Ezra. | This is an Ezra Bridger trick that now these two are doing on behalf of Ezra. |
145 | 00:09:08,923 | 00:09:11,175 | So, again, Ezra's in the leadership role, | So, again, Ezra's in the leadership role, |
146 | 00:09:11,259 | 00:09:15,346 | and he's having somebody else play out the part that he used to. | and he's having somebody else play out the part that he used to. |
147 | 00:09:16,806 | 00:09:22,561 | It's interesting to have Clancy playing General, or Admiral Yularen, | It's interesting to have Clancy playing General, or Admiral Yularen, |
148 | 00:09:22,645 | 00:09:25,689 | that was kind of interesting. I thought he did it rather well. | that was kind of interesting. I thought he did it rather well. |
149 | 00:09:25,773 | 00:09:28,818 | The thing that I do, which, in these scenes... | The thing that I do, which, in these scenes... |
150 | 00:09:29,944 | 00:09:35,074 | and just the limitation is that we had more Imperials altogether, | and just the limitation is that we had more Imperials altogether, |
151 | 00:09:35,158 | 00:09:38,369 | that there was just massive numbers of Stormtroopers, | that there was just massive numbers of Stormtroopers, |
152 | 00:09:38,453 | 00:09:42,748 | massive numbers of TIE Fighters and tanks returning to the facility. | massive numbers of TIE Fighters and tanks returning to the facility. |
153 | 00:09:42,832 | 00:09:48,337 | It would be a lot larger sequence, but I wanted to get this feeling | It would be a lot larger sequence, but I wanted to get this feeling |
154 | 00:09:48,421 | 00:09:52,299 | that they were all shuddering, that they were going back in a little bit there, | that they were all shuddering, that they were going back in a little bit there, |
155 | 00:09:52,383 | 00:09:55,511 | but you need five times as many TIE Fighters... | but you need five times as many TIE Fighters... |
156 | 00:09:57,221 | 00:09:58,722 | just almost like a swarm of them | just almost like a swarm of them |
157 | 00:09:58,806 | 00:10:03,060 | spinning back in to get the feeling that there's a huge evacuation. | spinning back in to get the feeling that there's a huge evacuation. |
158 | 00:10:03,186 | 00:10:05,604 | Maybe that's nit-picking, but I know | Maybe that's nit-picking, but I know |
159 | 00:10:05,688 | 00:10:07,481 | some of you out there probably feel the same. | some of you out there probably feel the same. |
160 | 00:10:07,565 | 00:10:11,026 | You guys are a wise audience, so, just in case you're wondering, | You guys are a wise audience, so, just in case you're wondering, |
161 | 00:10:11,110 | 00:10:12,910 | we all do notice that kind of thing. | we all do notice that kind of thing. |
162 | 00:10:16,240 | 00:10:19,540 | It would have been better to find a way to intercut this over time. | It would have been better to find a way to intercut this over time. |
163 | 00:10:19,911 | 00:10:22,538 | There has to be a much larger feeling of time. | There has to be a much larger feeling of time. |
164 | 00:10:22,622 | 00:10:25,374 | I don't think it can be as instantaneous as it feels here. | I don't think it can be as instantaneous as it feels here. |
165 | 00:10:25,458 | 00:10:30,630 | But, again, the emphasis is not about the Empire packing it up. | But, again, the emphasis is not about the Empire packing it up. |
166 | 00:10:31,047 | 00:10:32,882 | You gotta keep it all moving. | You gotta keep it all moving. |
167 | 00:10:33,841 | 00:10:37,303 | Besides, the real villain, the real interest is when Thrawn returns... | Besides, the real villain, the real interest is when Thrawn returns... |
168 | 00:10:38,596 | 00:10:40,681 | which is about to happen in a moment, | which is about to happen in a moment, |
169 | 00:10:40,765 | 00:10:44,519 | which is definitely a lot more interesting. | which is definitely a lot more interesting. |
170 | 00:10:44,977 | 00:10:46,927 | Always good to have the creeping shadow | Always good to have the creeping shadow |
171 | 00:10:47,021 | 00:10:49,440 | and the glimmer of hope for the evil Pryce. | and the glimmer of hope for the evil Pryce. |
172 | 00:10:52,777 | 00:10:55,237 | Kallus knows the score of what's happening. | Kallus knows the score of what's happening. |
173 | 00:10:55,321 | 00:10:56,822 | They've got to shut it down again. | They've got to shut it down again. |
174 | 00:10:56,906 | 00:10:58,991 | One of their main concerns in this episode becomes | One of their main concerns in this episode becomes |
175 | 00:10:59,075 | 00:11:02,245 | the people of Lothal and what's going to happen to them. | the people of Lothal and what's going to happen to them. |
176 | 00:11:02,370 | 00:11:05,581 | So they're constantly putting the people first... | So they're constantly putting the people first... |
177 | 00:11:06,916 | 00:11:09,836 | ahead of their own safety. | ahead of their own safety. |
178 | 00:11:10,795 | 00:11:12,379 | This was an interesting scene | This was an interesting scene |
179 | 00:11:12,463 | 00:11:15,633 | to see Ezra really face off one-to-one with Thrawn. | to see Ezra really face off one-to-one with Thrawn. |
180 | 00:11:17,802 | 00:11:21,513 | It's great when Taylor goes on one of his rambles here, | It's great when Taylor goes on one of his rambles here, |
181 | 00:11:21,597 | 00:11:26,269 | and, you know, there's nothing better than a young person telling you | and, you know, there's nothing better than a young person telling you |
182 | 00:11:26,435 | 00:11:29,935 | they've got it all figured out, and Thrawn deals with it accordingly... | they've got it all figured out, and Thrawn deals with it accordingly... |
183 | 00:11:30,815 | 00:11:32,915 | because, of course, Thrawn knows better, | because, of course, Thrawn knows better, |
184 | 00:11:33,192 | 00:11:36,153 | or at least, he thinks he does in this situation. | or at least, he thinks he does in this situation. |
185 | 00:11:37,113 | 00:11:38,489 | And what's interesting is, he does. | And what's interesting is, he does. |
186 | 00:11:38,573 | 00:11:41,700 | He immediately takes what Ezra thinks is his advantage, | He immediately takes what Ezra thinks is his advantage, |
187 | 00:11:41,784 | 00:11:46,538 | and turns it into Ezra's disadvantage because Thrawn strategically | and turns it into Ezra's disadvantage because Thrawn strategically |
188 | 00:11:46,622 | 00:11:51,252 | can think the whole thing through on a very intricate level. | can think the whole thing through on a very intricate level. |
189 | 00:11:51,794 | 00:11:54,630 | He has to be this commanding warlord | He has to be this commanding warlord |
190 | 00:11:54,714 | 00:11:57,758 | that knows almost every possible strategy. | that knows almost every possible strategy. |
191 | 00:11:57,842 | 00:12:01,596 | The only strategy he wouldn't understand is one that involves... | The only strategy he wouldn't understand is one that involves... |
192 | 00:12:01,971 | 00:12:05,057 | bizarre space whales riding to the rescue 'cause that's just... | bizarre space whales riding to the rescue 'cause that's just... |
193 | 00:12:05,141 | 00:12:06,517 | How do you even factor for that? | How do you even factor for that? |
194 | 00:12:06,601 | 00:12:08,519 | I guess he would in the future, | I guess he would in the future, |
195 | 00:12:08,603 | 00:12:12,398 | which maybe we'll get to one day, but not right now. | which maybe we'll get to one day, but not right now. |
196 | 00:12:12,899 | 00:12:18,612 | And it just, Thrawn has this strategy, and now he's got his men safe, | And it just, Thrawn has this strategy, and now he's got his men safe, |
197 | 00:12:18,696 | 00:12:20,322 | and he is now going to destroy | and he is now going to destroy |
198 | 00:12:20,406 | 00:12:23,117 | the very thing that Ezra cares most about, | the very thing that Ezra cares most about, |
199 | 00:12:23,326 | 00:12:25,453 | which is the people on the planet below. | which is the people on the planet below. |
200 | 00:12:25,912 | 00:12:32,376 | We had to push these series of shots to make it destructive so that... | We had to push these series of shots to make it destructive so that... |
201 | 00:12:32,919 | 00:12:36,171 | We have not, probably since the first season, | We have not, probably since the first season, |
202 | 00:12:36,255 | 00:12:38,882 | spent a lot of time with the people down there. | spent a lot of time with the people down there. |
203 | 00:12:38,966 | 00:12:41,469 | But you want to get that their being decimated... | But you want to get that their being decimated... |
204 | 00:12:42,136 | 00:12:44,555 | you want to show destruction on a massive scale, | you want to show destruction on a massive scale, |
205 | 00:12:44,639 | 00:12:48,976 | and this shot was important to link it to Ezra personally, | and this shot was important to link it to Ezra personally, |
206 | 00:12:49,060 | 00:12:51,270 | that he's personally responsible for it. | that he's personally responsible for it. |
207 | 00:12:52,688 | 00:12:57,360 | So, now we know what the Empire's willing to do. | So, now we know what the Empire's willing to do. |
208 | 00:12:58,527 | 00:13:00,946 | They are just going to wipe everything and everyone out. | They are just going to wipe everything and everyone out. |
209 | 00:13:01,030 | 00:13:03,480 | They're probably going to do that, no matter what. | They're probably going to do that, no matter what. |
210 | 00:13:04,617 | 00:13:06,017 | That's what the bad guys do. | That's what the bad guys do. |
211 | 00:13:06,869 | 00:13:11,748 | And so, Ezra feels like he needs to play along | And so, Ezra feels like he needs to play along |
212 | 00:13:11,832 | 00:13:14,126 | and do what Thrawn wants him to do here. | and do what Thrawn wants him to do here. |
213 | 00:13:14,752 | 00:13:19,631 | We don't know that Ezra, on some level, has seen this coming. | We don't know that Ezra, on some level, has seen this coming. |
214 | 00:13:19,715 | 00:13:23,761 | Now it's not that Ezra knew this particular version would happen. | Now it's not that Ezra knew this particular version would happen. |
215 | 00:13:24,345 | 00:13:26,695 | It's just he knows that there are possibilities, | It's just he knows that there are possibilities, |
216 | 00:13:26,889 | 00:13:32,061 | and this was one of a couple possibilities of what might happen. | and this was one of a couple possibilities of what might happen. |
217 | 00:13:32,478 | 00:13:35,678 | It is not one of his more favorable choices for what's to happen. | It is not one of his more favorable choices for what's to happen. |
218 | 00:13:36,190 | 00:13:39,484 | There was a chance that they could have got into the base swiftly, | There was a chance that they could have got into the base swiftly, |
219 | 00:13:39,568 | 00:13:41,868 | and launched the dome before Thrawn got back... | and launched the dome before Thrawn got back... |
220 | 00:13:42,446 | 00:13:44,156 | and tried to win the day that way. | and tried to win the day that way. |
221 | 00:13:46,367 | 00:13:48,911 | But this is the event that's now happening... | But this is the event that's now happening... |
222 | 00:13:49,453 | 00:13:51,079 | and so he knows what he has to do. | and so he knows what he has to do. |
223 | 00:13:51,163 | 00:13:53,499 | He has to make different moves on the board. | He has to make different moves on the board. |
224 | 00:13:54,667 | 00:13:57,169 | This scene was an interesting one for sound design | This scene was an interesting one for sound design |
225 | 00:13:57,253 | 00:13:59,853 | because it's really about getting into Ezra's head, | because it's really about getting into Ezra's head, |
226 | 00:14:00,089 | 00:14:04,135 | and having this last moment between Ezra and Sabine, | and having this last moment between Ezra and Sabine, |
227 | 00:14:04,427 | 00:14:06,762 | the kind of brother and sister on the show. | the kind of brother and sister on the show. |
228 | 00:14:07,722 | 00:14:11,434 | It's all communicated how they're feeling through their eyes... | It's all communicated how they're feeling through their eyes... |
229 | 00:14:12,768 | 00:14:15,771 | the understanding that they have to come to... | the understanding that they have to come to... |
230 | 00:14:16,689 | 00:14:19,691 | her understanding what Ezra needs to do in this situation, | her understanding what Ezra needs to do in this situation, |
231 | 00:14:19,775 | 00:14:23,821 | her drawing attention away from any of them seeing Ezra. | her drawing attention away from any of them seeing Ezra. |
232 | 00:14:24,947 | 00:14:27,157 | It's interesting 'cause the very first thing, | It's interesting 'cause the very first thing, |
233 | 00:14:27,241 | 00:14:31,328 | Sabine is the one that gives Ezra a chance in the very first episode | Sabine is the one that gives Ezra a chance in the very first episode |
234 | 00:14:31,412 | 00:14:35,750 | when she kind of has him dead to rights on the speeder bike... | when she kind of has him dead to rights on the speeder bike... |
235 | 00:14:36,292 | 00:14:39,587 | and just takes the crate and says, "Good luck," you know. | and just takes the crate and says, "Good luck," you know. |
236 | 00:14:40,212 | 00:14:43,382 | And so she's always in a way given Ezra a chance, | And so she's always in a way given Ezra a chance, |
237 | 00:14:43,591 | 00:14:45,133 | and now she gives him a very big one. | and now she gives him a very big one. |
238 | 00:14:45,217 | 00:14:48,596 | But she understands him on a much deeper level, on a personal level. | But she understands him on a much deeper level, on a personal level. |
239 | 00:14:51,432 | 00:14:55,144 | That's one of my favorite moments in this episode. | That's one of my favorite moments in this episode. |
240 | 00:14:55,603 | 00:14:58,731 | I love that communicating without doing it verbally... | I love that communicating without doing it verbally... |
241 | 00:14:59,774 | 00:15:03,444 | and when you know the characters well, you know what they're thinking. | and when you know the characters well, you know what they're thinking. |
242 | 00:15:04,153 | 00:15:08,199 | This, again, another important moment for Sabine to step up and take the lead. | This, again, another important moment for Sabine to step up and take the lead. |
243 | 00:15:09,742 | 00:15:12,453 | We've seen Hera in this role so many times. | We've seen Hera in this role so many times. |
244 | 00:15:13,746 | 00:15:17,749 | Now Sabine has the plan, but what I think is important here is | Now Sabine has the plan, but what I think is important here is |
245 | 00:15:17,833 | 00:15:21,878 | she actually asks Hera what she thinks of the plan. She includes her. | she actually asks Hera what she thinks of the plan. She includes her. |
246 | 00:15:21,962 | 00:15:24,381 | It's not like she just runs over her, you know. | It's not like she just runs over her, you know. |
247 | 00:15:24,465 | 00:15:29,512 | It's this mother-daughter dynamic at work here. | It's this mother-daughter dynamic at work here. |
248 | 00:15:31,138 | 00:15:35,892 | And now the Stormtroopers are catching on that all is not right | And now the Stormtroopers are catching on that all is not right |
249 | 00:15:35,976 | 00:15:38,186 | because Thrawn is there, and he's contacting guys on the base. | because Thrawn is there, and he's contacting guys on the base. |
250 | 00:15:38,270 | 00:15:42,649 | Now, again, I would love five times as many Stormtroopers to show up, | Now, again, I would love five times as many Stormtroopers to show up, |
251 | 00:15:42,733 | 00:15:45,236 | but we get the idea. | but we get the idea. |
252 | 00:15:46,445 | 00:15:47,945 | This is the inevitable, right? | This is the inevitable, right? |
253 | 00:15:48,030 | 00:15:54,662 | The hero into the belly of the monster by himself or herself. | The hero into the belly of the monster by himself or herself. |
254 | 00:15:56,372 | 00:16:00,167 | You have to go on this journey where you face your fears... | You have to go on this journey where you face your fears... |
255 | 00:16:00,751 | 00:16:04,505 | where you stand up for what is right, where you very much... | where you stand up for what is right, where you very much... |
256 | 00:16:05,756 | 00:16:08,175 | put yourself on the line for other people. | put yourself on the line for other people. |
257 | 00:16:10,136 | 00:16:13,639 | Thrawn has, I think, been fantastic on the show. | Thrawn has, I think, been fantastic on the show. |
258 | 00:16:14,181 | 00:16:16,851 | Lars has played him brilliantly. | Lars has played him brilliantly. |
259 | 00:16:17,810 | 00:16:24,357 | And here we really need to understand Thrawn and his view of the Force, | And here we really need to understand Thrawn and his view of the Force, |
260 | 00:16:24,441 | 00:16:25,693 | his view of Jedi. | his view of Jedi. |
261 | 00:16:27,319 | 00:16:29,696 | He respects Jedi, but he feels they're predictable, | He respects Jedi, but he feels they're predictable, |
262 | 00:16:29,780 | 00:16:34,577 | he feels they're flawed, their morality is a weakness... | he feels they're flawed, their morality is a weakness... |
263 | 00:16:34,952 | 00:16:40,248 | one that he can exploit, and that's why he's basically explaining to Ezra, | one that he can exploit, and that's why he's basically explaining to Ezra, |
264 | 00:16:40,332 | 00:16:42,125 | he has won. | he has won. |
265 | 00:16:42,209 | 00:16:48,424 | Ezra, I think he knows he can't really win an argument with Thrawn... | Ezra, I think he knows he can't really win an argument with Thrawn... |
266 | 00:16:48,883 | 00:16:54,388 | but he can try to stand up for his own views and his values in this moment... | but he can try to stand up for his own views and his values in this moment... |
267 | 00:16:55,639 | 00:16:57,289 | which is really important to him. | which is really important to him. |
268 | 00:16:57,516 | 00:17:00,268 | Because they're values that were built not just by his parents, | Because they're values that were built not just by his parents, |
269 | 00:17:00,352 | 00:17:02,897 | but by his friends, by Hera, by Kanan. | but by his friends, by Hera, by Kanan. |
270 | 00:17:03,314 | 00:17:05,023 | And Thrawn represents a person | And Thrawn represents a person |
271 | 00:17:05,107 | 00:17:08,235 | that's going to destroy all of those things. | that's going to destroy all of those things. |
272 | 00:17:08,611 | 00:17:12,531 | He acts like he is interested in it, that he cares about it, | He acts like he is interested in it, that he cares about it, |
273 | 00:17:12,615 | 00:17:16,993 | but he really, he doesn't really have real emotional value | but he really, he doesn't really have real emotional value |
274 | 00:17:17,077 | 00:17:20,872 | connected to any of these artifacts or things that he's collected. | connected to any of these artifacts or things that he's collected. |
275 | 00:17:20,956 | 00:17:23,959 | He's just, again, appropriating it... | He's just, again, appropriating it... |
276 | 00:17:25,336 | 00:17:28,338 | and he thinks that that makes it all right | and he thinks that that makes it all right |
277 | 00:17:28,422 | 00:17:31,050 | as they are wiping culture from the galaxy. | as they are wiping culture from the galaxy. |
278 | 00:17:32,343 | 00:17:33,886 | Bringing up Sabine, | Bringing up Sabine, |
279 | 00:17:34,011 | 00:17:37,111 | it's just more of a personal attack on Ezra than anything else. | it's just more of a personal attack on Ezra than anything else. |
280 | 00:17:38,098 | 00:17:44,355 | Thrawn is staging this really to get to Ezra, to push him emotionally... | Thrawn is staging this really to get to Ezra, to push him emotionally... |
281 | 00:17:45,147 | 00:17:50,610 | and now Ezra is claiming his own position | and now Ezra is claiming his own position |
282 | 00:17:50,694 | 00:17:53,944 | and showing Thrawn that he's not going to be intimidated by him... | and showing Thrawn that he's not going to be intimidated by him... |
283 | 00:17:55,157 | 00:17:59,745 | but Thrawn just doesn't think Ezra understands the big picture. | but Thrawn just doesn't think Ezra understands the big picture. |
284 | 00:18:01,330 | 00:18:06,251 | He knows that power is all that matters. That's what he believes, | He knows that power is all that matters. That's what he believes, |
285 | 00:18:06,335 | 00:18:10,297 | and I think when you get to be like a Thrawn or a Palpatine, | and I think when you get to be like a Thrawn or a Palpatine, |
286 | 00:18:10,381 | 00:18:12,383 | you have to throw in with that, right? | you have to throw in with that, right? |
287 | 00:18:13,008 | 00:18:16,011 | Power to them is something that destroys... | Power to them is something that destroys... |
288 | 00:18:16,595 | 00:18:20,474 | something that is filled with terror... | something that is filled with terror... |
289 | 00:18:21,308 | 00:18:24,269 | elicits fear in people, that's power to them. | elicits fear in people, that's power to them. |
290 | 00:18:24,353 | 00:18:27,022 | But it's quite a pathetic thing really. | But it's quite a pathetic thing really. |
291 | 00:18:27,439 | 00:18:32,110 | It's not true power, as Obi-Wan would say, if you strike me down, | It's not true power, as Obi-Wan would say, if you strike me down, |
292 | 00:18:32,194 | 00:18:34,794 | I become more powerful than you can possibly imagine. | I become more powerful than you can possibly imagine. |
293 | 00:18:35,030 | 00:18:36,156 | It's a different kind of power, | It's a different kind of power, |
294 | 00:18:36,240 | 00:18:38,840 | and one that this guy here doesn't understand either. | and one that this guy here doesn't understand either. |
295 | 00:18:39,034 | 00:18:44,664 | Palpatine, the true face of evil, and here appearing as a kind, old man, | Palpatine, the true face of evil, and here appearing as a kind, old man, |
296 | 00:18:44,748 | 00:18:51,630 | which is often the case in mythology, evil appearing kindly... | which is often the case in mythology, evil appearing kindly... |
297 | 00:18:51,964 | 00:18:55,926 | in a way that's pleasing or friendly to deceive us... | in a way that's pleasing or friendly to deceive us... |
298 | 00:18:56,635 | 00:19:00,639 | because evil unmasked is terrifying and dreadful, | because evil unmasked is terrifying and dreadful, |
299 | 00:19:00,723 | 00:19:05,227 | but evil as deceiving is often friendly | but evil as deceiving is often friendly |
300 | 00:19:05,311 | 00:19:07,730 | or a so-called angel of light. | or a so-called angel of light. |
301 | 00:19:10,733 | 00:19:14,319 | Now we start to set up this idea that Ezra knew that | Now we start to set up this idea that Ezra knew that |
302 | 00:19:14,403 | 00:19:20,700 | there were a couple of possibilities and even told Mart to be watchful | there were a couple of possibilities and even told Mart to be watchful |
303 | 00:19:20,784 | 00:19:26,290 | if certain things occur, he's going to need him to do something. | if certain things occur, he's going to need him to do something. |
304 | 00:19:27,041 | 00:19:30,491 | And that's where we start to draw on the thread of the purrgil coming. | And that's where we start to draw on the thread of the purrgil coming. |
305 | 00:19:31,420 | 00:19:33,339 | Again, you have to make it believable. | Again, you have to make it believable. |
306 | 00:19:33,756 | 00:19:35,715 | You can't just have the stuff come out of left field. | You can't just have the stuff come out of left field. |
307 | 00:19:35,799 | 00:19:37,949 | I'm sure, for some people it felt like that. | I'm sure, for some people it felt like that. |
308 | 00:19:38,594 | 00:19:43,974 | But I try to make it something where you look back and go, | But I try to make it something where you look back and go, |
309 | 00:19:44,058 | 00:19:47,811 | "Okay, I guess it's reasonable that he could have sent this signal out." | "Okay, I guess it's reasonable that he could have sent this signal out." |
310 | 00:19:47,895 | 00:19:51,690 | It's reasonable because the Purrgil were saved by Ezra. | It's reasonable because the Purrgil were saved by Ezra. |
311 | 00:19:51,774 | 00:19:56,111 | Their home was saved, so now they're coming back to save Ezra's home. | Their home was saved, so now they're coming back to save Ezra's home. |
312 | 00:19:56,195 | 00:19:59,948 | That seems like a pretty good deal for a bunch space whales. | That seems like a pretty good deal for a bunch space whales. |
313 | 00:20:00,407 | 00:20:03,285 | So, you know, one last look at the wolves there. | So, you know, one last look at the wolves there. |
314 | 00:20:03,911 | 00:20:08,999 | And we're off on this exciting Ezra Bridger plan, | And we're off on this exciting Ezra Bridger plan, |
315 | 00:20:09,083 | 00:20:11,710 | which is a crazy plan, but that's what Jedi do, | which is a crazy plan, but that's what Jedi do, |
316 | 00:20:11,794 | 00:20:13,837 | they have crazy plans 'cause they have crazy abilities, | they have crazy plans 'cause they have crazy abilities, |
317 | 00:20:13,921 | 00:20:16,923 | so, something very fun. | so, something very fun. |
318 | 00:20:17,007 | 00:20:19,057 | It's always very nice to see Wolffe there. | It's always very nice to see Wolffe there. |
319 | 00:20:19,218 | 00:20:21,718 | This is a longer scene, cut it down, cut it down... | This is a longer scene, cut it down, cut it down... |
320 | 00:20:22,137 | 00:20:25,766 | still got it to work in a shorter form, which is always good. | still got it to work in a shorter form, which is always good. |
321 | 00:20:29,561 | 00:20:31,230 | Flying off the Ghost, so. | Flying off the Ghost, so. |
322 | 00:20:32,564 | 00:20:35,484 | Now the stage is set, and all the pieces are moving. | Now the stage is set, and all the pieces are moving. |
323 | 00:20:36,652 | 00:20:39,696 | We need to get on. There are weird Melch moments. | We need to get on. There are weird Melch moments. |
324 | 00:20:40,280 | 00:20:43,533 | Melch turned out to be a character we use way more than I thought we would. | Melch turned out to be a character we use way more than I thought we would. |
325 | 00:20:43,617 | 00:20:45,201 | Who would have thought an Ugnaught, right? | Who would have thought an Ugnaught, right? |
326 | 00:20:45,285 | 00:20:50,416 | But he's compelling, named after Steve Melching, one of the writers. | But he's compelling, named after Steve Melching, one of the writers. |
327 | 00:20:50,666 | 00:20:52,292 | We just started calling him Melch. | We just started calling him Melch. |
328 | 00:20:52,376 | 00:20:55,963 | We call him Melch, so, I thought, that sounds like an Ugnaught. | We call him Melch, so, I thought, that sounds like an Ugnaught. |
329 | 00:20:56,630 | 00:20:59,675 | And Steve's rather proud of that. To each his own. | And Steve's rather proud of that. To each his own. |
330 | 00:21:00,092 | 00:21:03,970 | I'm not going to judge any of it, I'm glad he enjoys it. | I'm not going to judge any of it, I'm glad he enjoys it. |
331 | 00:21:04,054 | 00:21:08,183 | He's really embraced the whole thing, which is kind of fun. | He's really embraced the whole thing, which is kind of fun. |
332 | 00:21:08,976 | 00:21:09,976 | This is a nice moment here. | This is a nice moment here. |
333 | 00:21:10,060 | 00:21:13,939 | Again, I love seeing Sabine in this role, leading, | Again, I love seeing Sabine in this role, leading, |
334 | 00:21:14,106 | 00:21:15,566 | as, like, a commander. | as, like, a commander. |
335 | 00:21:17,192 | 00:21:20,892 | She did it for people on Mandalore, and now she's doing it for her friends. | She did it for people on Mandalore, and now she's doing it for her friends. |
336 | 00:21:21,363 | 00:21:26,452 | I like that this scene kind of concludes in this moment of thinking about Ezra. | I like that this scene kind of concludes in this moment of thinking about Ezra. |
337 | 00:21:27,536 | 00:21:29,830 | And now he's really in it... | And now he's really in it... |
338 | 00:21:30,164 | 00:21:33,208 | in a far worse situation than they could imagine. | in a far worse situation than they could imagine. |
339 | 00:21:35,836 | 00:21:40,591 | Having an actor like Ian portraying his classic character... | Having an actor like Ian portraying his classic character... |
340 | 00:21:42,926 | 00:21:45,929 | gave such a different dimension to this scene... | gave such a different dimension to this scene... |
341 | 00:21:46,597 | 00:21:50,058 | and it made me want to just write the dialog in a certain way | and it made me want to just write the dialog in a certain way |
342 | 00:21:50,142 | 00:21:54,813 | to give him the greatest advantage of how to play this. | to give him the greatest advantage of how to play this. |
343 | 00:21:54,897 | 00:21:58,108 | Now this has to be... It's different than when Luke sees the Emperor. | Now this has to be... It's different than when Luke sees the Emperor. |
344 | 00:21:58,192 | 00:22:01,236 | Luke sees the Emperor, and he sees the face of evil, | Luke sees the Emperor, and he sees the face of evil, |
345 | 00:22:01,320 | 00:22:03,571 | the face that's tormented him and his family. | the face that's tormented him and his family. |
346 | 00:22:03,655 | 00:22:06,783 | Ezra's being played out here, I'm not such a bad guy, | Ezra's being played out here, I'm not such a bad guy, |
347 | 00:22:06,867 | 00:22:08,118 | see, you misjudge me. | see, you misjudge me. |
348 | 00:22:08,869 | 00:22:12,956 | It's a completely different thing that's trying to get at the same result. | It's a completely different thing that's trying to get at the same result. |
349 | 00:22:13,040 | 00:22:16,918 | I'm not even sure that Palpatine wants Ezra for an apprentice. | I'm not even sure that Palpatine wants Ezra for an apprentice. |
350 | 00:22:17,002 | 00:22:19,295 | He just wants him to open this door. | He just wants him to open this door. |
351 | 00:22:19,379 | 00:22:21,423 | He just wants him to give him access | He just wants him to give him access |
352 | 00:22:21,507 | 00:22:28,054 | to this great power of controlling | to this great power of controlling |
353 | 00:22:28,138 | 00:22:29,889 | life and death and fate, | life and death and fate, |
354 | 00:22:29,973 | 00:22:33,184 | and what will happen in the future and what happened in the past. | and what will happen in the future and what happened in the past. |
355 | 00:22:33,268 | 00:22:35,103 | That's what he wants from Ezra. | That's what he wants from Ezra. |
356 | 00:22:35,187 | 00:22:40,316 | I think he'd probably then destroy Ezra because he still has Vader, | I think he'd probably then destroy Ezra because he still has Vader, |
357 | 00:22:40,400 | 00:22:44,321 | who's a more powerful Force wielder for him. | who's a more powerful Force wielder for him. |
358 | 00:22:45,197 | 00:22:48,575 | But this begins this series. And I love the music here too. | But this begins this series. And I love the music here too. |
359 | 00:22:48,659 | 00:22:51,161 | Kevin Kiner just did a phenomenal job. | Kevin Kiner just did a phenomenal job. |
360 | 00:22:51,245 | 00:22:53,329 | The music really plays out | The music really plays out |
361 | 00:22:53,413 | 00:22:57,834 | all the emotional resonance that I was looking for here. | all the emotional resonance that I was looking for here. |
362 | 00:22:58,627 | 00:23:02,338 | This is just any day, any normal day in the Bridger household, | This is just any day, any normal day in the Bridger household, |
363 | 00:23:02,422 | 00:23:06,760 | except on this morning, this would be the morning that | except on this morning, this would be the morning that |
364 | 00:23:08,220 | 00:23:13,016 | Ezra probably remembers when he snuck out early, and he wasn't home... | Ezra probably remembers when he snuck out early, and he wasn't home... |
365 | 00:23:13,600 | 00:23:16,228 | and his parents get taken by the Empire. | and his parents get taken by the Empire. |
366 | 00:23:17,271 | 00:23:20,940 | And I thought of playing a version of this where you knew more about that, | And I thought of playing a version of this where you knew more about that, |
367 | 00:23:21,024 | 00:23:23,277 | that Ezra remembers this day... | that Ezra remembers this day... |
368 | 00:23:25,112 | 00:23:27,823 | because he could hear his parents calling to him. | because he could hear his parents calling to him. |
369 | 00:23:28,198 | 00:23:34,538 | But he didn't go home that morning because he was out causing mischief... | But he didn't go home that morning because he was out causing mischief... |
370 | 00:23:35,080 | 00:23:38,917 | and in the end he sees them being taken away. | and in the end he sees them being taken away. |
371 | 00:23:39,251 | 00:23:41,002 | So again, you want to give the characters | So again, you want to give the characters |
372 | 00:23:41,086 | 00:23:43,922 | an opportunity to change fate, | an opportunity to change fate, |
373 | 00:23:44,047 | 00:23:49,011 | to offer them that powerful, powerful ability. | to offer them that powerful, powerful ability. |
374 | 00:23:50,470 | 00:23:52,680 | I can change things, I can make things better, | I can change things, I can make things better, |
375 | 00:23:52,764 | 00:23:56,727 | I can stop people from dying, I can stop this from happening. | I can stop people from dying, I can stop this from happening. |
376 | 00:23:58,270 | 00:24:03,275 | The hindsight of it all, and being able to control... | The hindsight of it all, and being able to control... |
377 | 00:24:04,151 | 00:24:09,990 | what happens in life, which is not, frankly, ever really a good thing. | what happens in life, which is not, frankly, ever really a good thing. |
378 | 00:24:11,992 | 00:24:13,702 | We need to set up... | We need to set up... |
379 | 00:24:14,828 | 00:24:17,330 | the tension here of what's going on that should make it believable. | the tension here of what's going on that should make it believable. |
380 | 00:24:17,414 | 00:24:19,582 | This is the gag that they use a series of doors | This is the gag that they use a series of doors |
381 | 00:24:19,666 | 00:24:21,668 | since Sabine's got the control room on lockdown | since Sabine's got the control room on lockdown |
382 | 00:24:21,752 | 00:24:25,255 | where she can make it that they can pass through these hallways, | where she can make it that they can pass through these hallways, |
383 | 00:24:25,422 | 00:24:30,343 | evading countless numbers of Stormtroopers to get to their goal. | evading countless numbers of Stormtroopers to get to their goal. |
384 | 00:24:30,427 | 00:24:32,971 | So, I think that worked pretty well | So, I think that worked pretty well |
385 | 00:24:33,055 | 00:24:35,805 | to explain how they're moving through this big building. | to explain how they're moving through this big building. |
386 | 00:24:37,768 | 00:24:40,562 | This, to me, just feels like classic Star Wars. | This, to me, just feels like classic Star Wars. |
387 | 00:24:41,104 | 00:24:42,605 | I really enjoy these scenes. | I really enjoy these scenes. |
388 | 00:24:42,689 | 00:24:45,189 | It reminds me of the Star Wars that I grew up with, | It reminds me of the Star Wars that I grew up with, |
389 | 00:24:45,275 | 00:24:47,069 | blasting in a Death Star. | blasting in a Death Star. |
390 | 00:24:48,654 | 00:24:51,490 | Poor Chopper, can't get your break here. | Poor Chopper, can't get your break here. |
391 | 00:24:52,282 | 00:24:55,201 | But you know, the droids in the end, it's like | But you know, the droids in the end, it's like |
392 | 00:24:55,285 | 00:24:57,620 | you can't really solve these problems for them. | you can't really solve these problems for them. |
393 | 00:24:57,704 | 00:24:59,247 | It's really going to be up to them. | It's really going to be up to them. |
394 | 00:24:59,331 | 00:25:01,749 | He's played his important role throughout the series. | He's played his important role throughout the series. |
395 | 00:25:01,833 | 00:25:03,293 | Now these guys got to get it together, | Now these guys got to get it together, |
396 | 00:25:03,377 | 00:25:07,714 | and it's fun to see Ketsu working on the fly here with Rex. | and it's fun to see Ketsu working on the fly here with Rex. |
397 | 00:25:09,091 | 00:25:11,291 | Now back to the parents. You know, this is... | Now back to the parents. You know, this is... |
398 | 00:25:13,387 | 00:25:16,097 | for as real as you want to believe it is, | for as real as you want to believe it is, |
399 | 00:25:16,181 | 00:25:20,768 | I don't like explaining or defining much of this more than I have, | I don't like explaining or defining much of this more than I have, |
400 | 00:25:20,852 | 00:25:25,106 | but because you can't know any more than Ezra can know, | but because you can't know any more than Ezra can know, |
401 | 00:25:25,190 | 00:25:29,236 | is this real, is this not real, is the Emperor playing him... | is this real, is this not real, is the Emperor playing him... |
402 | 00:25:30,195 | 00:25:34,324 | or can he really walk through this door? Is this a real event happening? | or can he really walk through this door? Is this a real event happening? |
403 | 00:25:34,533 | 00:25:39,037 | We know that Ezra pulls Ahsoka through a doorway into his world... | We know that Ezra pulls Ahsoka through a doorway into his world... |
404 | 00:25:40,497 | 00:25:42,457 | so we know that it's possible to walk | so we know that it's possible to walk |
405 | 00:25:42,541 | 00:25:45,501 | through that doorway and see these people. | through that doorway and see these people. |
406 | 00:25:45,585 | 00:25:47,135 | At least we want to believe it. | At least we want to believe it. |
407 | 00:25:48,004 | 00:25:50,757 | And if you could change these terrible things from happening | And if you could change these terrible things from happening |
408 | 00:25:50,841 | 00:25:53,491 | to people that you care about, wouldn't you change it? | to people that you care about, wouldn't you change it? |
409 | 00:25:53,635 | 00:25:57,472 | It all seems rather reasonable. And if you listen to Palpatine, | It all seems rather reasonable. And if you listen to Palpatine, |
410 | 00:25:57,556 | 00:26:01,852 | he's never really fully explaining what it means to go through that door. | he's never really fully explaining what it means to go through that door. |
411 | 00:26:03,520 | 00:26:07,107 | He doesn't say that everything's going to work out better. | He doesn't say that everything's going to work out better. |
412 | 00:26:08,608 | 00:26:11,944 | So the temptation there, and the lure of it, | So the temptation there, and the lure of it, |
413 | 00:26:12,028 | 00:26:13,780 | might tell you about the reality of it. | might tell you about the reality of it. |
414 | 00:26:13,864 | 00:26:19,286 | But, poor Melch, he really lays it on there, going down like a champ. | But, poor Melch, he really lays it on there, going down like a champ. |
415 | 00:26:19,870 | 00:26:22,622 | That's full-on acting, as far as I see it, | That's full-on acting, as far as I see it, |
416 | 00:26:22,706 | 00:26:26,460 | but he must want to elicit this response out of Hondo. | but he must want to elicit this response out of Hondo. |
417 | 00:26:27,043 | 00:26:29,962 | Hondo, who, despite being a smuggler, | Hondo, who, despite being a smuggler, |
418 | 00:26:30,046 | 00:26:33,800 | pirate, scoundrel, actually cares about his crew. | pirate, scoundrel, actually cares about his crew. |
419 | 00:26:35,844 | 00:26:39,055 | I needed the stakes to get even higher here. | I needed the stakes to get even higher here. |
420 | 00:26:39,139 | 00:26:41,557 | I needed a way to take Rukh out | I needed a way to take Rukh out |
421 | 00:26:41,641 | 00:26:45,520 | in a more fantastic way than just fisticuffs. | in a more fantastic way than just fisticuffs. |
422 | 00:26:45,604 | 00:26:48,564 | So Zeb does something more extreme | So Zeb does something more extreme |
423 | 00:26:48,648 | 00:26:53,528 | that only somebody like Zeb with his big purpleness could do, | that only somebody like Zeb with his big purpleness could do, |
424 | 00:26:53,612 | 00:26:57,449 | leaping into the oblivion to help his friends. | leaping into the oblivion to help his friends. |
425 | 00:26:59,493 | 00:27:00,952 | Really upped everything, | Really upped everything, |
426 | 00:27:01,036 | 00:27:07,291 | this straight-on assault by Kallus and Gregor. | this straight-on assault by Kallus and Gregor. |
427 | 00:27:07,375 | 00:27:12,255 | Poor Gregor. You know, it's not without purpose. | Poor Gregor. You know, it's not without purpose. |
428 | 00:27:13,006 | 00:27:18,928 | Again, these soldiers, and one thing soldiers know is sacrifice, | Again, these soldiers, and one thing soldiers know is sacrifice, |
429 | 00:27:19,012 | 00:27:22,849 | and the important thing is that the clones in this series | and the important thing is that the clones in this series |
430 | 00:27:22,933 | 00:27:25,602 | are fighting for something they chose to believe in. | are fighting for something they chose to believe in. |
431 | 00:27:26,603 | 00:27:29,564 | That becomes a very important thread for them. | That becomes a very important thread for them. |
432 | 00:27:31,149 | 00:27:33,735 | But again, back, we're pulling at all these things. | But again, back, we're pulling at all these things. |
433 | 00:27:33,819 | 00:27:37,989 | It was important that this thread not resolve itself before... | It was important that this thread not resolve itself before... |
434 | 00:27:41,451 | 00:27:43,601 | meaning that Ezra has to make his choice, | meaning that Ezra has to make his choice, |
435 | 00:27:43,829 | 00:27:46,329 | and then things can turn in the rest of the battle. | and then things can turn in the rest of the battle. |
436 | 00:27:46,832 | 00:27:50,377 | But it all, to me, had to hinge on this decision that Ezra has to make. | But it all, to me, had to hinge on this decision that Ezra has to make. |
437 | 00:27:51,044 | 00:27:53,194 | Because if he walks through that doorway... | Because if he walks through that doorway... |
438 | 00:27:55,382 | 00:27:56,674 | the fate of our other characters | the fate of our other characters |
439 | 00:27:56,758 | 00:28:01,304 | is probably not going to be what it turned out to be. | is probably not going to be what it turned out to be. |
440 | 00:28:01,388 | 00:28:05,099 | I do think, in their own way, | I do think, in their own way, |
441 | 00:28:05,183 | 00:28:08,937 | that Ezra's parents hear him in this moment. | that Ezra's parents hear him in this moment. |
442 | 00:28:09,813 | 00:28:12,440 | I don't think they know what it is. | I don't think they know what it is. |
443 | 00:28:12,524 | 00:28:16,402 | I don't think they know what's really happening here, | I don't think they know what's really happening here, |
444 | 00:28:16,486 | 00:28:19,489 | but they have this kind of connective moment with their son. | but they have this kind of connective moment with their son. |
445 | 00:28:19,573 | 00:28:21,324 | You see, you don't really see him here. | You see, you don't really see him here. |
446 | 00:28:21,408 | 00:28:23,659 | It's as if they're looking onto the light of the sun, | It's as if they're looking onto the light of the sun, |
447 | 00:28:23,743 | 00:28:27,497 | and then this image is materializing before them. | and then this image is materializing before them. |
448 | 00:28:28,373 | 00:28:31,334 | It's all very, is this happening? Is this a dream? | It's all very, is this happening? Is this a dream? |
449 | 00:28:31,418 | 00:28:33,711 | But that's from their side of the doorway, | But that's from their side of the doorway, |
450 | 00:28:33,795 | 00:28:39,050 | which is an important choice for a point of view. | which is an important choice for a point of view. |
451 | 00:28:41,636 | 00:28:44,222 | I don't know, it must seem like something out of a dream | I don't know, it must seem like something out of a dream |
452 | 00:28:44,306 | 00:28:47,517 | for all of them to be in this moment. | for all of them to be in this moment. |
453 | 00:28:47,601 | 00:28:49,977 | I think they would know this is their son, | I think they would know this is their son, |
454 | 00:28:50,061 | 00:28:54,608 | even though he's older than they would ever have seen him. | even though he's older than they would ever have seen him. |
455 | 00:28:56,318 | 00:28:58,320 | And again, it's about letting go. | And again, it's about letting go. |
456 | 00:28:59,237 | 00:29:04,116 | You can love something or someone, but you have to find the power, | You can love something or someone, but you have to find the power, |
457 | 00:29:04,200 | 00:29:06,536 | the strength to let go, | the strength to let go, |
458 | 00:29:06,620 | 00:29:10,540 | meaning let go and let them have their life... | meaning let go and let them have their life... |
459 | 00:29:11,249 | 00:29:15,170 | believe that they, in turn, care about you, | believe that they, in turn, care about you, |
460 | 00:29:15,462 | 00:29:17,672 | that you don't let that loving of someone | that you don't let that loving of someone |
461 | 00:29:17,756 | 00:29:19,841 | turn into controlling someone... | turn into controlling someone... |
462 | 00:29:20,258 | 00:29:24,053 | turn into what you want, you know. | turn into what you want, you know. |
463 | 00:29:24,137 | 00:29:28,391 | Anakin did that to a degree, to a very large degree, | Anakin did that to a degree, to a very large degree, |
464 | 00:29:28,475 | 00:29:30,685 | and in the end was his downfall when you think about it. | and in the end was his downfall when you think about it. |
465 | 00:29:30,769 | 00:29:35,815 | But now evil unmasks, he can't maintain this facade. | But now evil unmasks, he can't maintain this facade. |
466 | 00:29:37,192 | 00:29:38,317 | He's not going to get what he wants, | He's not going to get what he wants, |
467 | 00:29:38,401 | 00:29:40,236 | so he doesn't have to play the game anymore. | so he doesn't have to play the game anymore. |
468 | 00:29:40,320 | 00:29:41,487 | The Emperor is evil. | The Emperor is evil. |
469 | 00:29:41,571 | 00:29:44,908 | Ezra's called him on it, and now he sees the face of evil. | Ezra's called him on it, and now he sees the face of evil. |
470 | 00:29:45,158 | 00:29:47,493 | Oh, this little scene, initially there were like | Oh, this little scene, initially there were like |
471 | 00:29:47,577 | 00:29:49,927 | three, four Stormtroopers that ran in this room. | three, four Stormtroopers that ran in this room. |
472 | 00:29:50,622 | 00:29:54,022 | And when I watched it, I was like, "Yeah, that's not going to do it." | And when I watched it, I was like, "Yeah, that's not going to do it." |
473 | 00:29:54,668 | 00:29:57,018 | The Emperor would have something better planned. | The Emperor would have something better planned. |
474 | 00:29:57,379 | 00:30:01,424 | And so, we put some Red Guards into action, and these are designed | And so, we put some Red Guards into action, and these are designed |
475 | 00:30:01,508 | 00:30:05,386 | after the Hasbro figures in the expanded universe, | after the Hasbro figures in the expanded universe, |
476 | 00:30:05,470 | 00:30:08,556 | which had these guys with helmets that they could actually move in. | which had these guys with helmets that they could actually move in. |
477 | 00:30:08,640 | 00:30:10,141 | And that's a Force pike at work, | And that's a Force pike at work, |
478 | 00:30:10,225 | 00:30:13,352 | something torturing Ezra, holding him in place. | something torturing Ezra, holding him in place. |
479 | 00:30:13,436 | 00:30:18,650 | It's kind of like a technical equivalent of some ability of the Force. | It's kind of like a technical equivalent of some ability of the Force. |
480 | 00:30:20,944 | 00:30:22,821 | He's in desperation mode now. | He's in desperation mode now. |
481 | 00:30:23,321 | 00:30:25,865 | Poor Stormtroopers, if they could only shoot accurately, | Poor Stormtroopers, if they could only shoot accurately, |
482 | 00:30:25,949 | 00:30:28,785 | they might stand a chance here, but in the end, | they might stand a chance here, but in the end, |
483 | 00:30:28,910 | 00:30:33,581 | you're not really sure if Ezra even survives this as he falls into this... | you're not really sure if Ezra even survives this as he falls into this... |
484 | 00:30:35,875 | 00:30:37,168 | cascade of boulders. | cascade of boulders. |
485 | 00:30:37,961 | 00:30:42,423 | Now we get to the setup for how Rukh is going to bite it down | Now we get to the setup for how Rukh is going to bite it down |
486 | 00:30:42,507 | 00:30:47,929 | in these little reactors, you would remember from Return of the Jedi. | in these little reactors, you would remember from Return of the Jedi. |
487 | 00:30:48,013 | 00:30:52,600 | They're based on the same coils that you see in Return of the Jedi | They're based on the same coils that you see in Return of the Jedi |
488 | 00:30:52,684 | 00:30:56,479 | when Han Solo is placing detonators in the Endor shield generators. | when Han Solo is placing detonators in the Endor shield generators. |
489 | 00:30:57,564 | 00:30:59,941 | Right down to the Dixie cup shapes, | Right down to the Dixie cup shapes, |
490 | 00:31:00,025 | 00:31:02,902 | if you are so inclined to know about these things. | if you are so inclined to know about these things. |
491 | 00:31:02,986 | 00:31:05,863 | Thrawn wouldn't be waiting, | Thrawn wouldn't be waiting, |
492 | 00:31:05,947 | 00:31:11,661 | he would know that the Emperor could not lure Ezra to open the gateway, | he would know that the Emperor could not lure Ezra to open the gateway, |
493 | 00:31:11,745 | 00:31:14,330 | so he's going to just destroy everything now. | so he's going to just destroy everything now. |
494 | 00:31:14,497 | 00:31:18,084 | But it's fun, right? Our heroes are operating independently of Ezra, | But it's fun, right? Our heroes are operating independently of Ezra, |
495 | 00:31:18,168 | 00:31:21,379 | and yet, they're getting an opportunity to do things because of Ezra. | and yet, they're getting an opportunity to do things because of Ezra. |
496 | 00:31:21,463 | 00:31:24,256 | So, we see them succeeding in their own right. | So, we see them succeeding in their own right. |
497 | 00:31:24,340 | 00:31:27,093 | It's not just because of Ezra. | It's not just because of Ezra. |
498 | 00:31:27,218 | 00:31:30,472 | They're skilled, heroic people. | They're skilled, heroic people. |
499 | 00:31:31,848 | 00:31:34,100 | And there's one electrified Rukh, | And there's one electrified Rukh, |
500 | 00:31:34,267 | 00:31:36,936 | which I thought was a very fun way for him to go. | which I thought was a very fun way for him to go. |
501 | 00:31:38,146 | 00:31:40,846 | You're pretty sure that he didn't make it out of there. | You're pretty sure that he didn't make it out of there. |
502 | 00:31:41,733 | 00:31:43,526 | Now the people are saved. | Now the people are saved. |
503 | 00:31:44,819 | 00:31:49,573 | There could have been a whole thread with what's left of Ryder Azadi's | There could have been a whole thread with what's left of Ryder Azadi's |
504 | 00:31:49,657 | 00:31:52,576 | rebel forces down in the city rallying people, | rebel forces down in the city rallying people, |
505 | 00:31:52,660 | 00:31:55,038 | but we really didn't have time for that. | but we really didn't have time for that. |
506 | 00:31:55,705 | 00:31:57,206 | In a little continuity thing here, | In a little continuity thing here, |
507 | 00:31:57,290 | 00:31:59,840 | I have to imagine that Rukh had dropped his comlink. | I have to imagine that Rukh had dropped his comlink. |
508 | 00:32:00,919 | 00:32:03,379 | We should have had an insert shot of that, and that's... | We should have had an insert shot of that, and that's... |
509 | 00:32:03,463 | 00:32:05,131 | Zeb sees it and picks it up... | Zeb sees it and picks it up... |
510 | 00:32:05,840 | 00:32:08,140 | so that's how he's talking with Thrawn there... | so that's how he's talking with Thrawn there... |
511 | 00:32:08,593 | 00:32:10,887 | if you're wondering about that little spoiler. | if you're wondering about that little spoiler. |
512 | 00:32:12,639 | 00:32:16,559 | Chopper back in action, must mean it's time to get out of there... | Chopper back in action, must mean it's time to get out of there... |
513 | 00:32:16,935 | 00:32:21,022 | 'Cause now they've got their generator on, so. | 'Cause now they've got their generator on, so. |
514 | 00:32:23,399 | 00:32:25,944 | I love this moment with Hondo and Melch. | I love this moment with Hondo and Melch. |
515 | 00:32:26,611 | 00:32:29,530 | It's like the only time Hondo's being truthful. | It's like the only time Hondo's being truthful. |
516 | 00:32:29,614 | 00:32:32,951 | Meanwhile, he's only truthful in passing. | Meanwhile, he's only truthful in passing. |
517 | 00:32:33,785 | 00:32:37,497 | But Melch heard him. Uh, he knows he cares. It's so great. | But Melch heard him. Uh, he knows he cares. It's so great. |
518 | 00:32:38,581 | 00:32:44,420 | But Hondo's happy, he's not a good guy, but he's not a bad guy, Hondo. | But Hondo's happy, he's not a good guy, but he's not a bad guy, Hondo. |
519 | 00:32:45,922 | 00:32:46,922 | And there are clones. | And there are clones. |
520 | 00:32:47,006 | 00:32:49,506 | For Dee Baker and I, this was a really nice moment. | For Dee Baker and I, this was a really nice moment. |
521 | 00:32:51,052 | 00:32:55,098 | We felt it's like giving the clones some closure. | We felt it's like giving the clones some closure. |
522 | 00:32:57,392 | 00:33:00,562 | It was great to see Dee get to finish this off... | It was great to see Dee get to finish this off... |
523 | 00:33:01,771 | 00:33:04,315 | having worked with him so many years on Clone Wars. | having worked with him so many years on Clone Wars. |
524 | 00:33:05,608 | 00:33:10,697 | And a nice, fitting end for a good soldier... | And a nice, fitting end for a good soldier... |
525 | 00:33:11,364 | 00:33:17,286 | a soldier that fights for the good of people for what they believe in, | a soldier that fights for the good of people for what they believe in, |
526 | 00:33:17,370 | 00:33:22,750 | a selfless soldier, not unlike a Jedi in the end. | a selfless soldier, not unlike a Jedi in the end. |
527 | 00:33:24,794 | 00:33:28,214 | Thrawn is really never willing to admit defeat. | Thrawn is really never willing to admit defeat. |
528 | 00:33:28,423 | 00:33:30,008 | A momentary setback. | A momentary setback. |
529 | 00:33:31,301 | 00:33:35,137 | A little Easter egg in here for fans of the expanded universe | A little Easter egg in here for fans of the expanded universe |
530 | 00:33:35,221 | 00:33:38,265 | with Captain Pellaeon making an appearance. | with Captain Pellaeon making an appearance. |
531 | 00:33:38,349 | 00:33:41,769 | I believe Pellaeon survives the purrgil attack in orbit... | I believe Pellaeon survives the purrgil attack in orbit... |
532 | 00:33:42,228 | 00:33:45,732 | and is able to somehow escape. | and is able to somehow escape. |
533 | 00:33:47,066 | 00:33:52,488 | I don't think that he should go out whimsically from a giant space whale, | I don't think that he should go out whimsically from a giant space whale, |
534 | 00:33:52,572 | 00:33:54,323 | but I wanted to get a mention of him in | but I wanted to get a mention of him in |
535 | 00:33:54,407 | 00:33:56,993 | so he can at least be back in play in the galaxy. | so he can at least be back in play in the galaxy. |
536 | 00:33:57,744 | 00:33:59,453 | And now the reveal of purrgil. | And now the reveal of purrgil. |
537 | 00:33:59,537 | 00:34:03,082 | We actually made purrgil that were massive in scale. | We actually made purrgil that were massive in scale. |
538 | 00:34:03,499 | 00:34:06,549 | The small ones are the ones from the episode they appeared in. | The small ones are the ones from the episode they appeared in. |
539 | 00:34:07,003 | 00:34:08,653 | And the other are King Purrgil... | And the other are King Purrgil... |
540 | 00:34:09,422 | 00:34:14,719 | the large ones that we created just for this episode... | the large ones that we created just for this episode... |
541 | 00:34:15,845 | 00:34:18,389 | so I just thought they were a great design... | so I just thought they were a great design... |
542 | 00:34:19,140 | 00:34:22,977 | an important design really when you see their role in the show. | an important design really when you see their role in the show. |
543 | 00:34:24,103 | 00:34:29,608 | This attack, wonderfully executed by the team, | This attack, wonderfully executed by the team, |
544 | 00:34:29,692 | 00:34:33,863 | Nate Villanueva doing these designs, just did a wonderful job. | Nate Villanueva doing these designs, just did a wonderful job. |
545 | 00:34:36,324 | 00:34:39,910 | For as big as we made those purrgil, Star Destroyers are still a lot bigger, | For as big as we made those purrgil, Star Destroyers are still a lot bigger, |
546 | 00:34:39,994 | 00:34:44,499 | but massive scale for us for this series. | but massive scale for us for this series. |
547 | 00:34:44,958 | 00:34:47,501 | But the ending deserves it. The ending has to be big. | But the ending deserves it. The ending has to be big. |
548 | 00:34:47,585 | 00:34:48,961 | Those people are looking like they've | Those people are looking like they've |
549 | 00:34:49,045 | 00:34:51,964 | never seen this kind of thing before, which is kind of fun. | never seen this kind of thing before, which is kind of fun. |
550 | 00:34:52,048 | 00:34:55,384 | When would they have ever seen Star Destroyers for space whales? | When would they have ever seen Star Destroyers for space whales? |
551 | 00:34:55,468 | 00:34:57,595 | When has anybody seen that? | When has anybody seen that? |
552 | 00:34:59,055 | 00:35:02,433 | This moment here right now, I had known a lot about this obviously | This moment here right now, I had known a lot about this obviously |
553 | 00:35:02,517 | 00:35:05,561 | because Bendu speaks to it at the end of season three... | because Bendu speaks to it at the end of season three... |
554 | 00:35:06,312 | 00:35:08,523 | so there was always this plan... | so there was always this plan... |
555 | 00:35:08,982 | 00:35:15,113 | with the purrgil being involved with Thrawn's demise... | with the purrgil being involved with Thrawn's demise... |
556 | 00:35:15,488 | 00:35:16,822 | that gives you some insight into | that gives you some insight into |
557 | 00:35:16,906 | 00:35:19,033 | how early we were working on these stories. | how early we were working on these stories. |
558 | 00:35:19,575 | 00:35:22,119 | I thought these little tentacles looked great. | I thought these little tentacles looked great. |
559 | 00:35:22,203 | 00:35:27,458 | They're kind of a difficult thing to do, but they feel really good. | They're kind of a difficult thing to do, but they feel really good. |
560 | 00:35:27,959 | 00:35:29,585 | They don't look too rigid, | They don't look too rigid, |
561 | 00:35:29,877 | 00:35:34,674 | so the animation team executed something really well here. | so the animation team executed something really well here. |
562 | 00:35:35,591 | 00:35:39,846 | Ezra is really stuck. He can't leave the situation because if he does... | Ezra is really stuck. He can't leave the situation because if he does... |
563 | 00:35:40,305 | 00:35:43,766 | then Thrawn will most likely find a way out. | then Thrawn will most likely find a way out. |
564 | 00:35:44,058 | 00:35:47,395 | He's got to be the thing that holds Thrawn down... | He's got to be the thing that holds Thrawn down... |
565 | 00:35:47,812 | 00:35:49,731 | that keeps him from escaping. | that keeps him from escaping. |
566 | 00:35:51,232 | 00:35:53,359 | So, also if he doesn't keep the door shut, | So, also if he doesn't keep the door shut, |
567 | 00:35:53,443 | 00:35:55,893 | the Stormtroopers are going to find a way through. | the Stormtroopers are going to find a way through. |
568 | 00:35:56,112 | 00:35:58,212 | So, he really has to help the purrgil here. | So, he really has to help the purrgil here. |
569 | 00:35:58,865 | 00:36:05,204 | It's a group effort to do in a villain like Thrawn. And, in this moment... | It's a group effort to do in a villain like Thrawn. And, in this moment... |
570 | 00:36:06,414 | 00:36:11,210 | this sacrifice, this idea of jumping to oblivion... | this sacrifice, this idea of jumping to oblivion... |
571 | 00:36:11,919 | 00:36:15,339 | that the best way to defeat the Empire in Lothal | that the best way to defeat the Empire in Lothal |
572 | 00:36:15,423 | 00:36:18,343 | would be to take Thrawn out of the equation... | would be to take Thrawn out of the equation... |
573 | 00:36:20,970 | 00:36:23,722 | is something that Ezra realized he had to do. | is something that Ezra realized he had to do. |
574 | 00:36:23,806 | 00:36:27,560 | It also puts in the idea that he believes in his friends... | It also puts in the idea that he believes in his friends... |
575 | 00:36:28,186 | 00:36:33,149 | that without him they can win, that they keep Lothal safe. | that without him they can win, that they keep Lothal safe. |
576 | 00:36:34,400 | 00:36:37,611 | So, again, it's not just a selfless idea, | So, again, it's not just a selfless idea, |
577 | 00:36:37,695 | 00:36:42,241 | but it's an idea of having a belief and a commitment to the friendships | but it's an idea of having a belief and a commitment to the friendships |
578 | 00:36:42,325 | 00:36:43,409 | that he has. | that he has. |
579 | 00:36:45,203 | 00:36:47,830 | And he says what every good Jedi should say, | And he says what every good Jedi should say, |
580 | 00:36:48,122 | 00:36:50,322 | reminding people the Force will be with them. | reminding people the Force will be with them. |
581 | 00:36:51,417 | 00:36:55,421 | And he's gone. He's gone, who knows where... | And he's gone. He's gone, who knows where... |
582 | 00:36:55,880 | 00:36:59,467 | or when we will see him again, if we will see him again. | or when we will see him again, if we will see him again. |
583 | 00:37:01,594 | 00:37:07,433 | I don't know. I might know, but it's not important right now. | I don't know. I might know, but it's not important right now. |
584 | 00:37:07,517 | 00:37:11,520 | What's important is that these guys have to snap to it | What's important is that these guys have to snap to it |
585 | 00:37:11,604 | 00:37:15,566 | because they have a chance to defeat the Empire with Thrawn gone. | because they have a chance to defeat the Empire with Thrawn gone. |
586 | 00:37:16,567 | 00:37:22,406 | So, Sabine knows this, and she wants to get things into action. | So, Sabine knows this, and she wants to get things into action. |
587 | 00:37:22,490 | 00:37:25,940 | Again, she's taking the lead where we used to see Hera do it before... | Again, she's taking the lead where we used to see Hera do it before... |
588 | 00:37:26,744 | 00:37:28,371 | at the beginning of the series. | at the beginning of the series. |
589 | 00:37:29,455 | 00:37:31,457 | Get the Ghost down here, everybody's moving, | Get the Ghost down here, everybody's moving, |
590 | 00:37:31,541 | 00:37:34,877 | everybody's playing a part in this victory now. | everybody's playing a part in this victory now. |
591 | 00:37:36,546 | 00:37:39,215 | We always knew this was a starship of some kind. | We always knew this was a starship of some kind. |
592 | 00:37:40,091 | 00:37:45,596 | So, it's fun to see this thing finally fire up to escape the planet. | So, it's fun to see this thing finally fire up to escape the planet. |
593 | 00:37:47,974 | 00:37:51,685 | I like how Pryce kicks Melch there. Man, she's just mean to the end, | I like how Pryce kicks Melch there. Man, she's just mean to the end, |
594 | 00:37:51,769 | 00:37:55,898 | mean to the last, Governor Pryce, played brilliantly by Mary. | mean to the last, Governor Pryce, played brilliantly by Mary. |
595 | 00:37:57,316 | 00:37:58,359 | Here come the troopers. | Here come the troopers. |
596 | 00:37:58,443 | 00:38:01,293 | The troopers are lucky they don't shoot Pryce right there. | The troopers are lucky they don't shoot Pryce right there. |
597 | 00:38:01,988 | 00:38:06,826 | Lucky, they're not the most accurate guys in the galaxy. | Lucky, they're not the most accurate guys in the galaxy. |
598 | 00:38:08,453 | 00:38:12,874 | Here it goes, a little smoke bomb distraction, which was good. | Here it goes, a little smoke bomb distraction, which was good. |
599 | 00:38:14,000 | 00:38:17,250 | Sabine ends up with Ezra's lightsaber. Make of that what you will. | Sabine ends up with Ezra's lightsaber. Make of that what you will. |
600 | 00:38:18,337 | 00:38:21,965 | Discuss amongst yourselves. But a nice moment. | Discuss amongst yourselves. But a nice moment. |
601 | 00:38:22,049 | 00:38:26,179 | And then she gets to finally cut the laser proof glass evidently. | And then she gets to finally cut the laser proof glass evidently. |
602 | 00:38:28,514 | 00:38:30,725 | So here we go, up and out. | So here we go, up and out. |
603 | 00:38:31,225 | 00:38:35,062 | It's all moving now, that's what feels great about this sequence. | It's all moving now, that's what feels great about this sequence. |
604 | 00:38:37,356 | 00:38:38,774 | There's so much to take in, | There's so much to take in, |
605 | 00:38:38,858 | 00:38:43,362 | there's so much to pack into these final minutes of the episode... | there's so much to pack into these final minutes of the episode... |
606 | 00:38:44,739 | 00:38:47,032 | to make it believable, just to have the breathing room | to make it believable, just to have the breathing room |
607 | 00:38:47,116 | 00:38:51,037 | to bring you down from some of these moments. | to bring you down from some of these moments. |
608 | 00:38:52,038 | 00:38:54,832 | As you can see, everybody's playing a role. | As you can see, everybody's playing a role. |
609 | 00:38:56,250 | 00:38:59,253 | Every character seems to get their moment... | Every character seems to get their moment... |
610 | 00:39:00,379 | 00:39:02,340 | to be a part of this rescue... | to be a part of this rescue... |
611 | 00:39:04,842 | 00:39:06,719 | and this destruction of the Empire. | and this destruction of the Empire. |
612 | 00:39:07,011 | 00:39:08,053 | In the end, when I would talk | In the end, when I would talk |
613 | 00:39:08,137 | 00:39:10,013 | with Simon Kinberg or Kiri Hart about this, | with Simon Kinberg or Kiri Hart about this, |
614 | 00:39:10,097 | 00:39:11,849 | I'm like, "If you just watch Rebels, | I'm like, "If you just watch Rebels, |
615 | 00:39:11,933 | 00:39:14,726 | if you've never seen any other part of Star Wars, | if you've never seen any other part of Star Wars, |
616 | 00:39:14,810 | 00:39:18,231 | this is a show where a kid is growing up on a planet... | this is a show where a kid is growing up on a planet... |
617 | 00:39:18,689 | 00:39:20,889 | where there's an evil Empire controlling it." | where there's an evil Empire controlling it." |
618 | 00:39:21,984 | 00:39:27,573 | And that, you're telling the audience, he will overthrow that Empire. | And that, you're telling the audience, he will overthrow that Empire. |
619 | 00:39:28,407 | 00:39:31,326 | And we can get all wrapped up in continuity and how that all works, | And we can get all wrapped up in continuity and how that all works, |
620 | 00:39:31,410 | 00:39:34,997 | but the promise of the show cannot be... Well, he solves it to a point, | but the promise of the show cannot be... Well, he solves it to a point, |
621 | 00:39:35,122 | 00:39:36,832 | but then a couple years later, | but then a couple years later, |
622 | 00:39:36,916 | 00:39:39,366 | Luke Skywalker comes along and solves the problem. | Luke Skywalker comes along and solves the problem. |
623 | 00:39:39,544 | 00:39:41,044 | That's Luke Skywalker's story. | That's Luke Skywalker's story. |
624 | 00:39:41,337 | 00:39:44,173 | This has to be a story about this boy, about his people, | This has to be a story about this boy, about his people, |
625 | 00:39:44,257 | 00:39:47,384 | about his planet, about his friends, that's what Star Wars Rebels is about. | about his planet, about his friends, that's what Star Wars Rebels is about. |
626 | 00:39:47,468 | 00:39:51,764 | And that's why he's not in the other parts of Star Wars. | And that's why he's not in the other parts of Star Wars. |
627 | 00:39:52,974 | 00:39:55,559 | We had to stay committed to the story that we were telling, | We had to stay committed to the story that we were telling, |
628 | 00:39:55,643 | 00:39:58,979 | and not worry about the continuity or where was this person, | and not worry about the continuity or where was this person, |
629 | 00:39:59,063 | 00:40:02,066 | why weren't they there? None of that stuff is important. | why weren't they there? None of that stuff is important. |
630 | 00:40:02,441 | 00:40:06,404 | What's important is the dynamics between the characters that we have set up... | What's important is the dynamics between the characters that we have set up... |
631 | 00:40:06,904 | 00:40:10,782 | and how do we fulfill the promises that we make really | and how do we fulfill the promises that we make really |
632 | 00:40:10,866 | 00:40:13,660 | at the beginning of this series to the audience? | at the beginning of this series to the audience? |
633 | 00:40:13,744 | 00:40:16,247 | Sometimes people get so wrapped up in continuity... | Sometimes people get so wrapped up in continuity... |
634 | 00:40:16,664 | 00:40:20,418 | you finish a story and half the audience is, "Well, why did that happen?" | you finish a story and half the audience is, "Well, why did that happen?" |
635 | 00:40:21,085 | 00:40:23,254 | Because none of those people are around. | Because none of those people are around. |
636 | 00:40:25,590 | 00:40:28,801 | I can't get consumed by that, you know. | I can't get consumed by that, you know. |
637 | 00:40:29,635 | 00:40:33,388 | This story, it had to be, to me, it had to be uplifting, | This story, it had to be, to me, it had to be uplifting, |
638 | 00:40:33,472 | 00:40:34,515 | it had to be hopeful, | it had to be hopeful, |
639 | 00:40:34,599 | 00:40:38,144 | because these are the things that George always wanted Star Wars to be. | because these are the things that George always wanted Star Wars to be. |
640 | 00:40:38,686 | 00:40:40,146 | It's inspirational. | It's inspirational. |
641 | 00:40:41,480 | 00:40:46,569 | It's telling a story and setting an example for how you overcome things. | It's telling a story and setting an example for how you overcome things. |
642 | 00:40:48,738 | 00:40:50,572 | And so, I tried to stick to those ideas, | And so, I tried to stick to those ideas, |
643 | 00:40:50,656 | 00:40:53,056 | things that we had talked about over the years... | things that we had talked about over the years... |
644 | 00:40:53,451 | 00:41:00,041 | all went into the storytelling of Star Wars Rebels, to make it its own... | all went into the storytelling of Star Wars Rebels, to make it its own... |
645 | 00:41:01,042 | 00:41:04,837 | piece of the Star Wars saga. | piece of the Star Wars saga. |
646 | 00:41:05,546 | 00:41:10,342 | While not necessarily the Luke Skywalker family saga, it's separate from that, | While not necessarily the Luke Skywalker family saga, it's separate from that, |
647 | 00:41:10,426 | 00:41:12,594 | but it's tangentially connected, | but it's tangentially connected, |
648 | 00:41:12,678 | 00:41:16,014 | I think, in a meaningful way, because it's still... | I think, in a meaningful way, because it's still... |
649 | 00:41:16,098 | 00:41:20,436 | I'm attempting to further the messages that were important to George... | I'm attempting to further the messages that were important to George... |
650 | 00:41:21,103 | 00:41:25,483 | just in a different way than had been done before. | just in a different way than had been done before. |
651 | 00:41:25,650 | 00:41:30,738 | And ultimately, you throw down these oppressors, this tyranny... | And ultimately, you throw down these oppressors, this tyranny... |
652 | 00:41:31,489 | 00:41:33,532 | and the people come alive. | and the people come alive. |
653 | 00:41:33,616 | 00:41:38,036 | From the example of these rebels, | From the example of these rebels, |
654 | 00:41:38,120 | 00:41:39,330 | they see that... | they see that... |
655 | 00:41:40,706 | 00:41:43,376 | they have power, they don't need to live in fear... | they have power, they don't need to live in fear... |
656 | 00:41:43,918 | 00:41:45,836 | and they all become stronger. | and they all become stronger. |
657 | 00:41:45,920 | 00:41:48,380 | And this is the moment for these heroes, | And this is the moment for these heroes, |
658 | 00:41:48,464 | 00:41:52,050 | they believe they're going to have to fight now to keep the planet, | they believe they're going to have to fight now to keep the planet, |
659 | 00:41:52,134 | 00:41:55,220 | but with everybody on their side, they know they can all fight together. | but with everybody on their side, they know they can all fight together. |
660 | 00:41:55,304 | 00:42:01,602 | But because now we find out of the appearance of Luke Skywalker | But because now we find out of the appearance of Luke Skywalker |
661 | 00:42:01,686 | 00:42:06,440 | not long after these events, the Empire turns its gaze away from Lothal | not long after these events, the Empire turns its gaze away from Lothal |
662 | 00:42:06,524 | 00:42:09,318 | and chases after Luke Skywalker, | and chases after Luke Skywalker, |
663 | 00:42:09,402 | 00:42:12,113 | and inevitably falls in the Battle of Endor. | and inevitably falls in the Battle of Endor. |
664 | 00:42:15,324 | 00:42:17,034 | So, this was a long planned thing | So, this was a long planned thing |
665 | 00:42:17,118 | 00:42:20,371 | that I tried to keep secret for the most part. | that I tried to keep secret for the most part. |
666 | 00:42:20,705 | 00:42:24,625 | I wanted to parallel the end of the series | I wanted to parallel the end of the series |
667 | 00:42:24,709 | 00:42:26,418 | with the very beginning sequence of shots. | with the very beginning sequence of shots. |
668 | 00:42:26,502 | 00:42:32,716 | So these scenes of Sabine in the Tower are the same as the opening of Rebels, | So these scenes of Sabine in the Tower are the same as the opening of Rebels, |
669 | 00:42:32,800 | 00:42:37,805 | where Ezra is standing in this very same Tower watching a Star Destroyer arrive. | where Ezra is standing in this very same Tower watching a Star Destroyer arrive. |
670 | 00:42:38,431 | 00:42:42,435 | Now Sabine is watching this Jedi shuttle arrive. | Now Sabine is watching this Jedi shuttle arrive. |
671 | 00:42:42,977 | 00:42:44,936 | I tried to include a little bit of everything | I tried to include a little bit of everything |
672 | 00:42:45,020 | 00:42:48,149 | so we see the wolves one last time, though no more white wolf. | so we see the wolves one last time, though no more white wolf. |
673 | 00:42:48,983 | 00:42:54,321 | They should both be the Gray wolves. Uh, we see the Loth-cats. | They should both be the Gray wolves. Uh, we see the Loth-cats. |
674 | 00:42:54,405 | 00:42:59,034 | We see an end to the Kallus-Zeb saga. | We see an end to the Kallus-Zeb saga. |
675 | 00:42:59,118 | 00:43:03,748 | And really, theirs is a saga of friendship and forgiving... | And really, theirs is a saga of friendship and forgiving... |
676 | 00:43:04,790 | 00:43:10,045 | of understanding that, while his anger and his bitterness... | of understanding that, while his anger and his bitterness... |
677 | 00:43:10,546 | 00:43:15,384 | over things that hurt him played into his role with the Empire... | over things that hurt him played into his role with the Empire... |
678 | 00:43:15,760 | 00:43:20,139 | he does great good and is forgiven by these people in the end, Kallus, | he does great good and is forgiven by these people in the end, Kallus, |
679 | 00:43:20,389 | 00:43:24,559 | and befriended by Zeb. A lot of questions. | and befriended by Zeb. A lot of questions. |
680 | 00:43:24,643 | 00:43:27,855 | People give me a lot of questions about little Jacen here. | People give me a lot of questions about little Jacen here. |
681 | 00:43:28,355 | 00:43:30,315 | We'll save those answers for another time. | We'll save those answers for another time. |
682 | 00:43:30,399 | 00:43:33,652 | But isn't it wonderful to see little Jacen there, and Hera? | But isn't it wonderful to see little Jacen there, and Hera? |
683 | 00:43:33,736 | 00:43:35,488 | We already know she's a great mom. | We already know she's a great mom. |
684 | 00:43:36,155 | 00:43:40,158 | We already know it, but it's just fun | We already know it, but it's just fun |
685 | 00:43:40,242 | 00:43:42,995 | to see here there with Chopper and Jacen. | to see here there with Chopper and Jacen. |
686 | 00:43:43,662 | 00:43:46,165 | Again, she has her own little family dynamic. | Again, she has her own little family dynamic. |
687 | 00:43:48,083 | 00:43:52,546 | And she's still piloting, she's such an active mom, which I love. | And she's still piloting, she's such an active mom, which I love. |
688 | 00:43:53,798 | 00:43:55,800 | She's very inspirational that way. | She's very inspirational that way. |
689 | 00:43:56,801 | 00:43:59,094 | But the most important moment now is here. | But the most important moment now is here. |
690 | 00:44:01,138 | 00:44:05,726 | What I realized in trying to craft an ending was that... | What I realized in trying to craft an ending was that... |
691 | 00:44:06,310 | 00:44:09,021 | what I like about some stories is that they really... | what I like about some stories is that they really... |
692 | 00:44:09,438 | 00:44:11,899 | the ending presents a new beginning... | the ending presents a new beginning... |
693 | 00:44:13,025 | 00:44:15,075 | and that a lot of stories that I liked... | and that a lot of stories that I liked... |
694 | 00:44:15,903 | 00:44:18,280 | I would imagine how they continued. | I would imagine how they continued. |
695 | 00:44:20,157 | 00:44:24,328 | I like the idea of sending these two women off on this adventure... | I like the idea of sending these two women off on this adventure... |
696 | 00:44:24,787 | 00:44:27,706 | to find their friend that meant so much to their lives | to find their friend that meant so much to their lives |
697 | 00:44:27,790 | 00:44:32,878 | that they would take and do another good turn for him. | that they would take and do another good turn for him. |
698 | 00:44:33,087 | 00:44:34,588 | This is the only time, by the way, | This is the only time, by the way, |
699 | 00:44:34,672 | 00:44:39,092 | that this show ends with the classic circle wipe and music swell, | that this show ends with the classic circle wipe and music swell, |
700 | 00:44:39,176 | 00:44:40,626 | as John Williams always does. | as John Williams always does. |
701 | 00:44:40,719 | 00:44:43,305 | Because that's how a proper Star Wars film ends, | Because that's how a proper Star Wars film ends, |
702 | 00:44:43,389 | 00:44:46,141 | and it ends on that group shot, as you see, | and it ends on that group shot, as you see, |
703 | 00:44:46,225 | 00:44:50,896 | the classic films always do that, the prequels as well. | the classic films always do that, the prequels as well. |
704 | 00:44:50,980 | 00:44:54,650 | So, this was kind of a big way... | So, this was kind of a big way... |
705 | 00:44:57,027 | 00:45:01,531 | to make another piece of Star Wars a test of all the things | to make another piece of Star Wars a test of all the things |
706 | 00:45:01,615 | 00:45:04,265 | that my team and I had learned over the past 12 years. | that my team and I had learned over the past 12 years. |
707 | 00:45:04,577 | 00:45:09,373 | And we put it all into this season in this finale. | And we put it all into this season in this finale. |
708 | 00:45:09,707 | 00:45:14,503 | I could go on and on about Ahsoka and Sabine and what they're doing now... | I could go on and on about Ahsoka and Sabine and what they're doing now... |
709 | 00:45:15,588 | 00:45:18,632 | but that's not the next series you're going to see. | but that's not the next series you're going to see. |
710 | 00:45:18,716 | 00:45:23,596 | So we'll just wait, wait on that, uh, as the story takes shape, | So we'll just wait, wait on that, uh, as the story takes shape, |
711 | 00:45:23,888 | 00:45:27,933 | and you know, as my mind figures it out. | and you know, as my mind figures it out. |
712 | 00:45:28,058 | 00:45:32,146 | There's always another adventure to go on in the Star Wars galaxy. | There's always another adventure to go on in the Star Wars galaxy. |
713 | 00:45:32,730 | 00:45:34,273 | Thanks for watching, guys. | Thanks for watching, guys. |