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1 00:00:01,251 00:00:04,129 Hello, I am Dave Filoni, Executive Producer... Hello, I am Dave Filoni, Executive Producer...
2 00:00:04,462 00:00:06,089 of Star Wars Rebels. of Star Wars Rebels.
3 00:00:06,173 00:00:10,468 I am going to be talking about "Heroes of Mandalore: Part 1." I am going to be talking about "Heroes of Mandalore: Part 1."
4 00:00:10,886 00:00:12,553 I remember starting work on this episode, I remember starting work on this episode,
5 00:00:12,637 00:00:15,681 and I was actually in London at the time and I was actually in London at the time
6 00:00:15,765 00:00:17,767 when I was working out this storyboard. when I was working out this storyboard.
7 00:00:17,976 00:00:21,771 I believe I was visiting the set of Episode 8... I believe I was visiting the set of Episode 8...
8 00:00:22,314 00:00:26,984 and in between takes and shoots, and in between takes and shoots,
9 00:00:27,068 00:00:31,030 I was over in our Lucasfilm HQ I was over in our Lucasfilm HQ
10 00:00:31,114 00:00:36,119 doing these storyboards and sending them back to California. doing these storyboards and sending them back to California.
11 00:00:36,703 00:00:40,248 And I was actually talking, And I was actually talking,
12 00:00:40,332 00:00:43,334 via Skype and whatnot, via Skype and whatnot,
13 00:00:43,418 00:00:46,004 with the team back on Rebels. with the team back on Rebels.
14 00:00:47,047 00:00:48,631 Uh, so that was kind of an interesting thing. Uh, so that was kind of an interesting thing.
15 00:00:48,715 00:00:52,510 It was very inspiring to be over there and watch Rian work. It was very inspiring to be over there and watch Rian work.
16 00:00:54,596 00:00:56,180 I thought it was really interesting to see. I thought it was really interesting to see.
17 00:00:56,264 00:01:00,434 It's been very interesting to see these other directors working and then, It's been very interesting to see these other directors working and then,
18 00:01:00,518 00:01:03,813 you know, be inspired and challenged to do better. you know, be inspired and challenged to do better.
19 00:01:04,231 00:01:08,068 This episode arc really was about... This episode arc really was about...
20 00:01:08,443 00:01:12,906 resolving, uh, Sabine's family situation, resolving, uh, Sabine's family situation,
21 00:01:13,198 00:01:14,658 saving her father... saving her father...
22 00:01:15,075 00:01:17,702 getting her family back together... getting her family back together...
23 00:01:18,411 00:01:21,247 so that she would have more stable ground so that she would have more stable ground
24 00:01:21,331 00:01:25,126 to go back and be with her other family, the rebels. to go back and be with her other family, the rebels.
25 00:01:25,919 00:01:29,672 So, I never thought, when we began Rebels, So, I never thought, when we began Rebels,
26 00:01:29,756 00:01:31,256 that we would be on Mandalore. that we would be on Mandalore.
27 00:01:31,466 00:01:33,843 I thought we had left all of that behind... I thought we had left all of that behind...
28 00:01:34,427 00:01:37,555 on The Clone Wars, but here we were. on The Clone Wars, but here we were.
29 00:01:39,474 00:01:43,520 And, you know, it's a challenge because this battle... And, you know, it's a challenge because this battle...
30 00:01:44,187 00:01:47,607 in the end, you always feel like it could be two, three times in the end, you always feel like it could be two, three times
31 00:01:47,691 00:01:50,860 as big as it's represented in what we were able to shoot. as big as it's represented in what we were able to shoot.
32 00:01:50,944 00:01:52,028 As big as it's represented in what we were able to shoot. As big as it's represented in what we were able to shoot.
33 00:01:52,112 00:01:54,762 In Clone Wars, it would have been much bigger. Here... In Clone Wars, it would have been much bigger. Here...
34 00:01:55,448 00:01:57,366 I have to be very economical I have to be very economical
35 00:01:57,450 00:02:00,411 with how many stormtroopers I have in a scene, with how many stormtroopers I have in a scene,
36 00:02:00,495 00:02:03,080 how we spread the Mandalorians out how we spread the Mandalorians out
37 00:02:03,164 00:02:06,209 to make this feel like a bigger combat. to make this feel like a bigger combat.
38 00:02:07,502 00:02:11,505 But it is a series of skirmishes that you feel is building towards something But it is a series of skirmishes that you feel is building towards something
39 00:02:11,589 00:02:13,883 a lot bigger later on. a lot bigger later on.
40 00:02:14,551 00:02:19,513 Jetpack stormtroopers versus any type of Mandalorians or Jedis, Jetpack stormtroopers versus any type of Mandalorians or Jedis,
41 00:02:19,597 00:02:21,807 not much of a competition. not much of a competition.
42 00:02:21,891 00:02:25,394 But it's interesting to see it happen, But it's interesting to see it happen,
43 00:02:25,478 00:02:28,356 showing Sabine and all of her action prowess. showing Sabine and all of her action prowess.
44 00:02:29,858 00:02:32,068 Again, that's something you see throughout Season 4, Again, that's something you see throughout Season 4,
45 00:02:32,152 00:02:36,948 and something that we evolve her into being a character and something that we evolve her into being a character
46 00:02:37,032 00:02:41,118 that isn't just of brawn and might and skill with action, that isn't just of brawn and might and skill with action,
47 00:02:41,202 00:02:43,580 but also of her mind throughout the season. but also of her mind throughout the season.
48 00:02:44,581 00:02:46,624 And then you have to find different gags. And then you have to find different gags.
49 00:02:46,708 00:02:52,004 After 12 years, I've done a lot of different gags in Star Wars, After 12 years, I've done a lot of different gags in Star Wars,
50 00:02:52,088 00:02:54,382 visual gags, visual gags,
51 00:02:54,466 00:02:57,343 you know, dialogue gags, you know, dialogue gags,
52 00:02:57,427 00:02:59,762 to differing degrees of success. to differing degrees of success.
53 00:02:59,846 00:03:01,555 Sometimes it turns out, Sometimes it turns out,
54 00:03:01,639 00:03:05,017 sometimes, like, well, I liked it more in my head, sometimes, like, well, I liked it more in my head,
55 00:03:05,101 00:03:08,521 but, you know, you try to play some comedy against, uh, but, you know, you try to play some comedy against, uh,
56 00:03:08,605 00:03:10,398 whatever else you got going on. whatever else you got going on.
57 00:03:11,441 00:03:15,569 I like these, I mean, despite them being no match for Mandalorians, I like these, I mean, despite them being no match for Mandalorians,
58 00:03:15,653 00:03:18,239 the jetpack troopers certainly look cool. the jetpack troopers certainly look cool.
59 00:03:18,323 00:03:21,076 It's always good to have new troopers and... It's always good to have new troopers and...
60 00:03:22,160 00:03:25,454 Gar Saxon's brother Tiber here was interesting Gar Saxon's brother Tiber here was interesting
61 00:03:25,538 00:03:29,417 in that he's someone that's really adopted the Imperials' ways. in that he's someone that's really adopted the Imperials' ways.
62 00:03:29,834 00:03:32,586 He's kind of a, really, a massive traitor He's kind of a, really, a massive traitor
63 00:03:32,670 00:03:35,381 to everything Mandalore at the end of the day to everything Mandalore at the end of the day
64 00:03:35,465 00:03:38,176 because he is given over to wanting his own power. because he is given over to wanting his own power.
65 00:03:38,843 00:03:42,805 He's not as interested in preserving his history, He's not as interested in preserving his history,
66 00:03:42,889 00:03:46,267 preserving his house, those things. preserving his house, those things.
67 00:03:46,351 00:03:48,519 He's more interested in absolute power. He's more interested in absolute power.
68 00:03:48,603 00:03:52,607 And again, it's another version of all power is corrupting... And again, it's another version of all power is corrupting...
69 00:03:54,484 00:03:57,028 even for Mandalorians, who are these warriors. even for Mandalorians, who are these warriors.
70 00:03:57,112 00:04:01,449 At least true Mandalorians have a degree of honor to them At least true Mandalorians have a degree of honor to them
71 00:04:01,533 00:04:03,618 in the way they fight. in the way they fight.
72 00:04:04,035 00:04:07,455 They have a sense of family, obviously. They have a sense of family, obviously.
73 00:04:07,539 00:04:11,167 And a bit of this season was And a bit of this season was
74 00:04:11,251 00:04:14,587 showing more of Mandalore, and then also breaking it down a bit. showing more of Mandalore, and then also breaking it down a bit.
75 00:04:14,671 00:04:19,633 And starting to build an explanation for why we don't see so many And starting to build an explanation for why we don't see so many
76 00:04:19,717 00:04:21,677 in the original trilogy, and what were they up to. in the original trilogy, and what were they up to.
77 00:04:21,761 00:04:24,764 There was a big space there that we could occupy, There was a big space there that we could occupy,
78 00:04:24,848 00:04:29,101 and we'll actually be able to tell some of that story and we'll actually be able to tell some of that story
79 00:04:29,185 00:04:31,521 on Star Wars Rebels, which is very unique. on Star Wars Rebels, which is very unique.
80 00:04:32,188 00:04:37,526 'Cause you don't, the only Mandalorian armor that you see is worn by Boba Fett 'Cause you don't, the only Mandalorian armor that you see is worn by Boba Fett
81 00:04:37,610 00:04:38,944 in the original trilogy. in the original trilogy.
82 00:04:39,028 00:04:41,739 So here, we have a bunch more people running around in, So here, we have a bunch more people running around in,
83 00:04:41,823 00:04:44,868 you know, almost the same time period, which is a big deal. you know, almost the same time period, which is a big deal.
84 00:04:46,327 00:04:50,373 Katee Sackhoff came back playing Bo-Katan, which was really thrilling. Katee Sackhoff came back playing Bo-Katan, which was really thrilling.
85 00:04:50,457 00:04:52,876 I thought she was excellent here. I thought she was excellent here.
86 00:04:53,376 00:04:55,294 We were able to give her a lot more to do, We were able to give her a lot more to do,
87 00:04:55,378 00:04:57,964 especially dialogue-wise than her Clone Wars days. especially dialogue-wise than her Clone Wars days.
88 00:04:58,756 00:05:00,216 And she was brilliant. And she was brilliant.
89 00:05:00,300 00:05:04,387 It's something bizarre It's something bizarre
90 00:05:04,471 00:05:07,139 and also wonderful to see some of these characters and also wonderful to see some of these characters
91 00:05:07,223 00:05:09,934 that my team and I worked with on Clone Wars, that my team and I worked with on Clone Wars,
92 00:05:10,018 00:05:12,228 now appearing in Rebels. now appearing in Rebels.
93 00:05:12,312 00:05:16,524 You didn't know if we would ever see them again, You didn't know if we would ever see them again,
94 00:05:16,608 00:05:17,983 have scenes with them again. have scenes with them again.
95 00:05:18,067 00:05:22,613 And yet here we've been very fortunate to find ways to make it work, And yet here we've been very fortunate to find ways to make it work,
96 00:05:22,697 00:05:25,533 ways that made sense, ways that made sense,
97 00:05:25,617 00:05:28,828 and I think the audience has enjoyed it as well, and I think the audience has enjoyed it as well,
98 00:05:28,912 00:05:32,540 having these characters included in Rebels. having these characters included in Rebels.
99 00:05:33,666 00:05:37,461 It's just been an unexpected It's just been an unexpected
100 00:05:37,545 00:05:40,715 kind of thing that happened, and this. kind of thing that happened, and this.
101 00:05:41,341 00:05:42,800 What a bizarre moment. What a bizarre moment.
102 00:05:42,884 00:05:46,053 Again, I have Sabine looking at Bo-Katan, Again, I have Sabine looking at Bo-Katan,
103 00:05:46,137 00:05:52,059 these two female Mandalorian warriors that, these two female Mandalorian warriors that,
104 00:05:52,143 00:05:57,440 you know, I've helped put into the Star Wars universe, you know, I've helped put into the Star Wars universe,
105 00:05:57,524 00:06:01,277 and, man, I don't think I ever thought that they would be and, man, I don't think I ever thought that they would be
106 00:06:01,361 00:06:04,611 talking to each other, let alone have this important role to play. talking to each other, let alone have this important role to play.
107 00:06:05,365 00:06:09,493 This arc in some ways also is about This arc in some ways also is about
108 00:06:09,577 00:06:14,790 this younger woman needing some support, this younger woman needing some support,
109 00:06:14,874 00:06:18,085 and to have an older woman challenge her and to have an older woman challenge her
110 00:06:18,169 00:06:21,464 and stand up for her when it really mattered, and stand up for her when it really mattered,
111 00:06:21,548 00:06:26,010 to not have this combative attitude, to not have this combative attitude,
112 00:06:26,094 00:06:27,720 but a supportive attitude. but a supportive attitude.
113 00:06:28,096 00:06:31,682 You know, I talk a lot, You know, I talk a lot,
114 00:06:31,766 00:06:35,978 not just with my co-workers here, not just with my co-workers here,
115 00:06:36,062 00:06:38,189 like Carrie Beck and Kiri Hart... like Carrie Beck and Kiri Hart...
116 00:06:39,774 00:06:43,444 I talk with my wife about female representation and roles and films. I talk with my wife about female representation and roles and films.
117 00:06:43,528 00:06:47,740 And it's... It's not something that's obvious to me at first, And it's... It's not something that's obvious to me at first,
118 00:06:47,824 00:06:49,909 but I've come to understand but I've come to understand
119 00:06:49,993 00:06:52,411 that it's not something you see a lot in films, that it's not something you see a lot in films,
120 00:06:52,495 00:06:57,124 this role of, in an action movie, women supporting other women. this role of, in an action movie, women supporting other women.
121 00:06:57,208 00:07:03,214 You're lucky if you get one female character in a movie, You're lucky if you get one female character in a movie,
122 00:07:03,298 00:07:05,598 and sometimes they're in the role of a warrior. and sometimes they're in the role of a warrior.
123 00:07:06,884 00:07:09,584 But there's not a lot that makes them unique otherwise. But there's not a lot that makes them unique otherwise.
124 00:07:11,431 00:07:14,808 And so to have multiple roles And so to have multiple roles
125 00:07:14,892 00:07:18,229 of female characters all portraying, of female characters all portraying,
126 00:07:18,313 00:07:20,648 not just their ability to wield the weapon not just their ability to wield the weapon
127 00:07:20,732 00:07:22,775 or to be involved in action, or to be involved in action,
128 00:07:22,859 00:07:26,278 but to have a deeper sense or commitment to who they are as people, but to have a deeper sense or commitment to who they are as people,
129 00:07:26,362 00:07:28,656 how they interact with other people, how they interact with other people,
130 00:07:28,740 00:07:32,243 how they share screen time with other female characters. how they share screen time with other female characters.
131 00:07:32,327 00:07:35,913 That you can have lengthy dialogue conversations That you can have lengthy dialogue conversations
132 00:07:35,997 00:07:40,000 and interaction between these characters and interaction between these characters
133 00:07:40,084 00:07:43,087 and show growth and evolution of these characters. and show growth and evolution of these characters.
134 00:07:44,589 00:07:49,677 You know, I think it's becoming more the language, it's becoming more common, You know, I think it's becoming more the language, it's becoming more common,
135 00:07:49,761 00:07:50,886 and it just needs to, and it just needs to,
136 00:07:50,970 00:07:53,180 because this is when we really start because this is when we really start
137 00:07:53,264 00:07:56,141 creating what's referred to, I think, as strong female characters, creating what's referred to, I think, as strong female characters,
138 00:07:56,225 00:07:58,102 when they're dimensional female characters, when they're dimensional female characters,
139 00:07:58,186 00:07:59,562 when they're characters that have an arc, when they're characters that have an arc,
140 00:07:59,646 00:08:01,438 that have purpose and meaning, that have purpose and meaning,
141 00:08:01,522 00:08:04,483 that aren't just there to be action orientated, that aren't just there to be action orientated,
142 00:08:04,567 00:08:07,861 they have a real story, real motivations. they have a real story, real motivations.
143 00:08:07,945 00:08:12,032 And here, a motivation to save your family, And here, a motivation to save your family,
144 00:08:12,116 00:08:13,534 to bring your family back together, to bring your family back together,
145 00:08:13,618 00:08:15,703 to save your father. to save your father.
146 00:08:16,579 00:08:20,500 You know, Sabine's mother is a very fun character to have. You know, Sabine's mother is a very fun character to have.
147 00:08:21,042 00:08:24,420 She is definitely tough, She is definitely tough,
148 00:08:24,504 00:08:27,047 and I wouldn't say she's independent, and I wouldn't say she's independent,
149 00:08:27,131 00:08:27,130 she's the matriarch of the family, she's the leader of the family. she's the matriarch of the family, she's the leader of the family.
150 00:08:27,214 00:08:30,464 She's the matriarch of the family, she's the leader of the family. She's the matriarch of the family, she's the leader of the family.
151 00:08:31,052 00:08:33,304 She's actually the harder edged one, She's actually the harder edged one,
152 00:08:33,388 00:08:36,432 where her father is the more artistic one. where her father is the more artistic one.
153 00:08:36,766 00:08:39,227 I don't think her father is very much the warrior. I don't think her father is very much the warrior.
154 00:08:40,853 00:08:42,689 I think that's okay, you know. I think that's okay, you know.
155 00:08:43,564 00:08:46,764 Again, you need a wide range of characters and character types... Again, you need a wide range of characters and character types...
156 00:08:47,235 00:08:51,364 and you shouldn't have all one thing for one type of character... and you shouldn't have all one thing for one type of character...
157 00:08:51,864 00:08:53,866 or one group of characters. or one group of characters.
158 00:08:54,534 00:08:58,329 This was an important scene because Hera and Kanan share This was an important scene because Hera and Kanan share
159 00:08:58,579 00:09:03,167 such little screen time in the beginning two episodes, such little screen time in the beginning two episodes,
160 00:09:03,251 00:09:06,253 and they're very important characters, as we all know, and they're very important characters, as we all know,
161 00:09:06,337 00:09:08,213 later in the season to have together. later in the season to have together.
162 00:09:08,297 00:09:12,927 So, we started building that here... So, we started building that here...
163 00:09:13,720 00:09:16,055 where Kanan is, even now at the beginning, where Kanan is, even now at the beginning,
164 00:09:16,139 00:09:20,017 kind of alluding to a relationship between them kind of alluding to a relationship between them
165 00:09:20,101 00:09:23,646 more strongly than he has perhaps before. more strongly than he has perhaps before.
166 00:09:23,730 00:09:26,816 And Hera's still very on point, on mission. And Hera's still very on point, on mission.
167 00:09:27,275 00:09:30,736 And only Chopper is the one that's really like, "Come on, guys, we have... And only Chopper is the one that's really like, "Come on, guys, we have...
168 00:09:30,820 00:09:31,987 "Is this really happening?" "Is this really happening?"
169 00:09:32,071 00:09:34,823 And that's just the insight to the fact that Chopper And that's just the insight to the fact that Chopper
170 00:09:34,907 00:09:38,285 has seen this more than any of the other characters over the years, has seen this more than any of the other characters over the years,
171 00:09:38,369 00:09:42,457 that he knows the depth of which these two have a relationship... that he knows the depth of which these two have a relationship...
172 00:09:43,666 00:09:45,250 what the reality is between them. what the reality is between them.
173 00:09:45,334 00:09:47,503 Chopper knows, he's on the in, Chopper knows, he's on the in,
174 00:09:47,587 00:09:49,756 but the rest of the crew not so much. but the rest of the crew not so much.
175 00:09:50,298 00:09:51,841 They don't really know. They don't really know.
176 00:09:53,092 00:09:58,097 Here we need a big action scene, action set piece, Here we need a big action scene, action set piece,
177 00:09:58,181 00:10:03,936 to really kind of kick this episode up a bit, to keep it moving. to really kind of kick this episode up a bit, to keep it moving.
178 00:10:04,604 00:10:08,899 It was, of course, I think you're always influenced by films It was, of course, I think you're always influenced by films
179 00:10:08,983 00:10:11,026 that you watch growing up, that you watch growing up,
180 00:10:11,110 00:10:13,571 great sequences stick with you. great sequences stick with you.
181 00:10:13,738 00:10:16,865 There is an element, when I would talk to the group, I was saying, There is an element, when I would talk to the group, I was saying,
182 00:10:16,949 00:10:21,161 "Remember Indiana Jones when he's trying to steal the ark from the truck "Remember Indiana Jones when he's trying to steal the ark from the truck
183 00:10:21,245 00:10:22,955 "and go look at that. "and go look at that.
184 00:10:24,123 00:10:28,669 "Pay attention to the way it's shot, pay attention to the timing of things." "Pay attention to the way it's shot, pay attention to the timing of things."
185 00:10:29,086 00:10:32,006 The editors even look at that stuff, The editors even look at that stuff,
186 00:10:32,173 00:10:33,716 and, you know, just use it as a touchstone, and, you know, just use it as a touchstone,
187 00:10:33,800 00:10:39,013 as George would use many films to influence him over the years. as George would use many films to influence him over the years.
188 00:10:39,680 00:10:43,434 And I'm lucky to have grown up, as my whole team was, And I'm lucky to have grown up, as my whole team was,
189 00:10:43,518 00:10:45,769 with a bunch of great films, with a bunch of great films,
190 00:10:45,853 00:10:49,148 kind of a heyday of action adventure films kind of a heyday of action adventure films
191 00:10:49,232 00:10:51,191 done by Steven Spielberg and George Lucas, done by Steven Spielberg and George Lucas,
192 00:10:51,275 00:10:53,235 and Robert Zemeckis. and Robert Zemeckis.
193 00:10:53,319 00:10:58,032 And so, a lot of great references out there and influences. And so, a lot of great references out there and influences.
194 00:10:58,574 00:11:00,868 An important thing in this one is speed. An important thing in this one is speed.
195 00:11:00,952 00:11:05,497 To have the speeders constantly moving To have the speeders constantly moving
196 00:11:05,581 00:11:12,213 adds a sense of somewhat tension to the entire movement of the action sequence. adds a sense of somewhat tension to the entire movement of the action sequence.
197 00:11:13,089 00:11:18,010 Introducing the father character here to make it very clear Introducing the father character here to make it very clear
198 00:11:18,094 00:11:22,639 who he is and where he is in this little group of vehicles who he is and where he is in this little group of vehicles
199 00:11:22,723 00:11:26,894 would be very important to keep the audience would be very important to keep the audience
200 00:11:26,978 00:11:29,396 aware of what's going on, aware of what's going on,
201 00:11:29,480 00:11:32,232 and keep them right at the edge of... and keep them right at the edge of...
202 00:11:32,316 00:11:35,528 Are they going to make it out? Are they going to rescue him? Are they going to make it out? Are they going to rescue him?
203 00:11:36,362 00:11:39,782 So, again, a big moment for Sabine as we watch her dive into battle. So, again, a big moment for Sabine as we watch her dive into battle.
204 00:11:40,533 00:11:44,244 These are some very big sets for us to do These are some very big sets for us to do
205 00:11:44,328 00:11:45,913 on Star Wars Rebels. on Star Wars Rebels.
206 00:11:45,997 00:11:48,540 A lot of real estate we're covering here. A lot of real estate we're covering here.
207 00:11:48,624 00:11:52,169 So we have to also at the same time be economical So we have to also at the same time be economical
208 00:11:52,253 00:11:54,379 with how we're trying to technically achieve this. with how we're trying to technically achieve this.
209 00:11:54,463 00:11:59,176 And, you know, Joel Aron, Keith Kellogg, Paul Zinnes, And, you know, Joel Aron, Keith Kellogg, Paul Zinnes,
210 00:11:59,260 00:12:02,679 these are people that have been with me for many years, these are people that have been with me for many years,
211 00:12:02,763 00:12:04,599 dating back to Clone Wars. dating back to Clone Wars.
212 00:12:04,974 00:12:07,768 We worked out so many sequences like this, We worked out so many sequences like this,
213 00:12:07,852 00:12:10,312 but it doesn't mean they become any easier. but it doesn't mean they become any easier.
214 00:12:10,396 00:12:12,940 Each one is challenging and different. Each one is challenging and different.
215 00:12:13,608 00:12:16,068 You have to keep trying to do different things. You have to keep trying to do different things.
216 00:12:17,653 00:12:22,491 The audience is always ever more sophisticated with what they've seen, The audience is always ever more sophisticated with what they've seen,
217 00:12:22,575 00:12:23,825 what they've experienced. what they've experienced.
218 00:12:25,202 00:12:28,372 I think it's very fun to see Sabine steal this speeder bike I think it's very fun to see Sabine steal this speeder bike
219 00:12:28,456 00:12:29,623 and use it to shield herself. and use it to shield herself.
220 00:12:29,707 00:12:33,585 It's always a problem of why aren't people getting blasted? It's always a problem of why aren't people getting blasted?
221 00:12:33,669 00:12:37,297 How do you suspend this belief that How do you suspend this belief that
222 00:12:37,381 00:12:40,467 they should be taking her out at any moment? they should be taking her out at any moment?
223 00:12:40,551 00:12:42,651 A lot of that's credited to the editors... A lot of that's credited to the editors...
224 00:12:43,012 00:12:47,266 keeping the cut very tight as everything is moving. keeping the cut very tight as everything is moving.
225 00:12:47,350 00:12:49,142 A nice heroic moment for Kanan. A nice heroic moment for Kanan.
226 00:12:49,226 00:12:53,647 Again, these, each moment then changes the rhythm Again, these, each moment then changes the rhythm
227 00:12:53,731 00:12:56,149 and the tempo of the sequence. and the tempo of the sequence.
228 00:12:56,233 00:12:58,735 Now Kanan has entered it. Now Kanan has entered it.
229 00:12:58,819 00:13:01,739 It's a heroic moment and a turn in the battle. It's a heroic moment and a turn in the battle.
230 00:13:02,949 00:13:04,366 Things get a little bit better. Things get a little bit better.
231 00:13:04,450 00:13:06,201 There's a really intense moment There's a really intense moment
232 00:13:06,285 00:13:10,080 where Chopper just knocks the heck out of a stormtrooper coming up. where Chopper just knocks the heck out of a stormtrooper coming up.
233 00:13:10,164 00:13:12,958 And, boy, I wasn't sure that one was going to go through, And, boy, I wasn't sure that one was going to go through,
234 00:13:13,042 00:13:14,835 but yeah, I think so 'cause when it's a droid, but yeah, I think so 'cause when it's a droid,
235 00:13:14,919 00:13:17,254 people don't seem to worry so much. people don't seem to worry so much.
236 00:13:18,673 00:13:20,507 This here is fun. This here is fun.
237 00:13:20,591 00:13:22,801 We had a lightsaber just take you right out the back. We had a lightsaber just take you right out the back.
238 00:13:22,885 00:13:24,636 It would cut right through, It would cut right through,
239 00:13:24,720 00:13:26,471 so it's a nice bit of editing there so it's a nice bit of editing there
240 00:13:26,555 00:13:29,642 to have Ezra disappear up the side of the car. to have Ezra disappear up the side of the car.
241 00:13:30,226 00:13:34,688 Again, everything's moving all the time. Again, everything's moving all the time.
242 00:13:34,772 00:13:37,983 And cutting everything very tight, And cutting everything very tight,
243 00:13:38,067 00:13:40,444 things being very reactive helps you out here. things being very reactive helps you out here.
244 00:13:40,861 00:13:43,071 Trimming your footage down Trimming your footage down
245 00:13:43,155 00:13:47,659 to keep the pace up, really, really helps. to keep the pace up, really, really helps.
246 00:13:47,743 00:13:51,705 This fight used to be so long in its story form, This fight used to be so long in its story form,
247 00:13:51,789 00:13:54,666 and we just trimmed and trimmed and trimmed and we just trimmed and trimmed and trimmed
248 00:13:54,750 00:13:57,837 to make it hopefully as exciting as we could get it. to make it hopefully as exciting as we could get it.
249 00:13:59,463 00:14:02,758 And you try to put little gags in there, little verbal bits. And you try to put little gags in there, little verbal bits.
250 00:14:02,842 00:14:04,051 Oh, here it is with Chopper. Oh, here it is with Chopper.
251 00:14:04,135 00:14:05,761 Watch, this is just something. Watch, this is just something.
252 00:14:06,303 00:14:07,804 I mean, that's... Wow. I mean, that's... Wow.
253 00:14:07,888 00:14:11,350 But it's funny 'cause it's Chopper, I guess. But it's funny 'cause it's Chopper, I guess.
254 00:14:11,434 00:14:14,061 That guy's going to have a headache, though. That guy's going to have a headache, though.
255 00:14:14,145 00:14:15,228 But you know, there's something But you know, there's something
256 00:14:15,312 00:14:17,064 for everyone in a scene like this. for everyone in a scene like this.
257 00:14:18,691 00:14:19,858 That's always good. That's always good.
258 00:14:19,942 00:14:22,942 It reminds me of when Luke cuts off the front of the speeder. It reminds me of when Luke cuts off the front of the speeder.
259 00:14:23,946 00:14:25,822 And I thought that was just a great idea. And I thought that was just a great idea.
260 00:14:25,906 00:14:31,662 I think Sterling had boarding when Kanan lands on the front of the speeder bike, I think Sterling had boarding when Kanan lands on the front of the speeder bike,
261 00:14:31,746 00:14:34,665 and they have a conversation. That's a nice little moment there. and they have a conversation. That's a nice little moment there.
262 00:14:34,749 00:14:37,250 Again, we've done different speeder chases. Again, we've done different speeder chases.
263 00:14:37,334 00:14:40,212 What can we make to have this be different? What can we make to have this be different?
264 00:14:41,589 00:14:43,340 These guys should have opened fire. These guys should have opened fire.
265 00:14:43,591 00:14:45,509 They're a bit foolish. I don't know why they're waiting, They're a bit foolish. I don't know why they're waiting,
266 00:14:45,593 00:14:49,846 but we all know Kanan gets it later in the series, but we all know Kanan gets it later in the series,
267 00:14:49,930 00:14:50,980 so I guess it's okay. so I guess it's okay.
268 00:14:51,390 00:14:53,016 I don't think many people could jump off I don't think many people could jump off
269 00:14:53,100 00:14:55,350 a moving speeder like that and keep running, a moving speeder like that and keep running,
270 00:14:55,644 00:14:57,444 but he's a Jedi, so let's keep that. but he's a Jedi, so let's keep that.
271 00:14:57,897 00:15:01,317 That little shield device she has is something we put in Clone Wars. That little shield device she has is something we put in Clone Wars.
272 00:15:03,069 00:15:06,655 Just a little neat kind of gladiator kind of shield. Just a little neat kind of gladiator kind of shield.
273 00:15:06,739 00:15:07,989 It was kind of fun to do. It was kind of fun to do.
274 00:15:08,574 00:15:11,952 This is one of my favorite little words, This is one of my favorite little words,
275 00:15:12,119 00:15:16,540 little dialogue, scenes here words, "I'm not with her, with her." little dialogue, scenes here words, "I'm not with her, with her."
276 00:15:16,874 00:15:18,125 That was a great moment. That was a great moment.
277 00:15:19,168 00:15:24,756 And I think definitely, you know, plays at Sabine and Ezra's relationship And I think definitely, you know, plays at Sabine and Ezra's relationship
278 00:15:24,840 00:15:29,428 is becoming more like a brother and sister instead of some kind of is becoming more like a brother and sister instead of some kind of
279 00:15:29,512 00:15:31,430 cliched notion that just 'cause they're two young people, cliched notion that just 'cause they're two young people,
280 00:15:31,514 00:15:32,431 cliched notion that just 'cause they're two young people, cliched notion that just 'cause they're two young people,
281 00:15:32,515 00:15:34,215 they should somehow be together... they should somehow be together...
282 00:15:34,558 00:15:37,185 which was never really our intention in this show. which was never really our intention in this show.
283 00:15:37,269 00:15:40,939 I think early on, it might have seemed like it was going that way, I think early on, it might have seemed like it was going that way,
284 00:15:41,023 00:15:43,859 but we were able to steer them clear. but we were able to steer them clear.
285 00:15:44,235 00:15:47,821 This sequence was something that reminded me, This sequence was something that reminded me,
286 00:15:47,905 00:15:51,158 we did a similar gag actually with Mace Windu we did a similar gag actually with Mace Windu
287 00:15:51,242 00:15:53,577 in Clone Wars when he's on Ryloth, in Clone Wars when he's on Ryloth,
288 00:15:53,744 00:15:55,787 and he does a trick somewhat like this. and he does a trick somewhat like this.
289 00:15:55,871 00:15:57,914 So we have some experience doing these kind of things, So we have some experience doing these kind of things,
290 00:15:57,998 00:16:00,751 but this one really, but this one really,
291 00:16:00,835 00:16:03,045 you don't know if he's going to make it. you don't know if he's going to make it.
292 00:16:03,129 00:16:05,923 That last jump looks like a heck of a jump. That last jump looks like a heck of a jump.
293 00:16:06,590 00:16:10,343 And I love that it's Ezra and Sabine. And I love that it's Ezra and Sabine.
294 00:16:10,427 00:16:13,096 They kind of trade off saving each other They kind of trade off saving each other
295 00:16:13,180 00:16:16,349 throughout this season, which is quite a lot of fun. throughout this season, which is quite a lot of fun.
296 00:16:16,433 00:16:19,061 So, that turned out to be a nice moment. So, that turned out to be a nice moment.
297 00:16:19,145 00:16:21,795 And there, I never thought I'd see that place again... And there, I never thought I'd see that place again...
298 00:16:23,440 00:16:25,233 Sundari, the capital of Mandalore. Sundari, the capital of Mandalore.
299 00:16:25,317 00:16:28,695 That takes me back to the Satine Kryze days That takes me back to the Satine Kryze days
300 00:16:28,779 00:16:31,990 and the Darth Maul days and the Obi-Wan days of Mandalore, and the Darth Maul days and the Obi-Wan days of Mandalore,
301 00:16:32,074 00:16:36,912 and all of this is built on top of what that continuity was, and all of this is built on top of what that continuity was,
302 00:16:36,996 00:16:39,790 and you know, how this... and you know, how this...
303 00:16:39,874 00:16:41,792 How Mandalore has wound up in the situation. How Mandalore has wound up in the situation.
304 00:16:41,876 00:16:44,169 I actually did a large diagram I actually did a large diagram
305 00:16:44,253 00:16:46,505 that took me a bit, that mapped out the history of Mandalore, that took me a bit, that mapped out the history of Mandalore,
306 00:16:46,589 00:16:52,803 all the way from the Satine, young Satine, all the way from the Satine, young Satine,
307 00:16:52,887 00:16:56,056 Obi-Wan days, all the way through now, Obi-Wan days, all the way through now,
308 00:16:56,140 00:16:57,516 just to figure out how it all worked. just to figure out how it all worked.
309 00:16:57,600 00:17:00,477 But, this scene got extended. But, this scene got extended.
310 00:17:00,561 00:17:04,315 I thought this was originally not made a big enough deal... I thought this was originally not made a big enough deal...
311 00:17:05,191 00:17:07,067 but, you know, this is one of your parents, but, you know, this is one of your parents,
312 00:17:07,151 00:17:08,444 this has to be a moment. this has to be a moment.
313 00:17:08,903 00:17:13,490 They left under uncertain terms, They left under uncertain terms,
314 00:17:13,574 00:17:16,243 and I wanted to feel this type of forgiveness. and I wanted to feel this type of forgiveness.
315 00:17:16,327 00:17:18,787 I think the surprising thing for Sabine here I think the surprising thing for Sabine here
316 00:17:18,871 00:17:22,040 is really how accepting her father would be of her is really how accepting her father would be of her
317 00:17:22,124 00:17:23,333 back into the family. back into the family.
318 00:17:23,417 00:17:25,836 Sometimes as a young person, you know, Sometimes as a young person, you know,
319 00:17:25,920 00:17:30,257 you underestimate your parents' ability to forgive. you underestimate your parents' ability to forgive.
320 00:17:30,341 00:17:33,802 You just see that they're angry at you, or disappointed, You just see that they're angry at you, or disappointed,
321 00:17:33,886 00:17:36,513 and you don't really understand that, and you don't really understand that,
322 00:17:36,597 00:17:39,850 you know, they are older and wiser, and that they forgive you you know, they are older and wiser, and that they forgive you
323 00:17:39,934 00:17:41,584 because ultimately they love you. because ultimately they love you.
324 00:17:41,977 00:17:44,604 And, you know, I know that's not everybody's experience, And, you know, I know that's not everybody's experience,
325 00:17:44,688 00:17:48,066 but it's what I wanted to show on this show. but it's what I wanted to show on this show.
326 00:17:48,150 00:17:50,443 You know, I don't think that every Star Wars character You know, I don't think that every Star Wars character
327 00:17:50,527 00:17:54,740 has a bad childhood or comes from an odd orphaned place. has a bad childhood or comes from an odd orphaned place.
328 00:17:54,990 00:17:57,742 Sometimes they just have misunderstandings, Sometimes they just have misunderstandings,
329 00:17:57,826 00:17:59,744 sometimes they build terrible weapons sometimes they build terrible weapons
330 00:17:59,828 00:18:01,454 and almost get their people destroyed. and almost get their people destroyed.
331 00:18:01,538 00:18:03,999 But that's all part of the growing experience, But that's all part of the growing experience,
332 00:18:04,083 00:18:06,710 uh, as a young person in Star Wars, uh, as a young person in Star Wars,
333 00:18:06,794 00:18:09,963 and your parents can forgive you of these things. and your parents can forgive you of these things.
334 00:18:10,047 00:18:13,676 So, fun to have them start talking about painting and armor. So, fun to have them start talking about painting and armor.
335 00:18:15,469 00:18:19,181 You know, again, to show that her father is a different kind of person You know, again, to show that her father is a different kind of person
336 00:18:19,265 00:18:22,415 than we've known in Star Wars, someone that's interested in art. than we've known in Star Wars, someone that's interested in art.
337 00:18:22,977 00:18:25,813 And so I was kind of, it would fit well for Sabine. And so I was kind of, it would fit well for Sabine.
338 00:18:26,981 00:18:30,276 Here she still has her old hair too, her Season 3 hair... Here she still has her old hair too, her Season 3 hair...
339 00:18:30,651 00:18:34,404 which was a nice thing for the cosplayers for a little bit. which was a nice thing for the cosplayers for a little bit.
340 00:18:34,488 00:18:37,992 But that soon changed as her hair changed later in the season. But that soon changed as her hair changed later in the season.
341 00:18:40,202 00:18:41,745 This sequence, again, This sequence, again,
342 00:18:41,829 00:18:43,330 I love that helmet her mother wears, I love that helmet her mother wears,
343 00:18:43,414 00:18:45,916 it's one of the cooler helmets that we did. it's one of the cooler helmets that we did.
344 00:18:46,000 00:18:48,168 I like the patterns on it, too. I like the patterns on it, too.
345 00:18:48,877 00:18:52,964 But this sequence needed more added to it. But this sequence needed more added to it.
346 00:18:53,048 00:18:57,510 We actually did some retakes to add more We actually did some retakes to add more
347 00:18:57,594 00:19:01,014 stormtrooper reinforcements attacking, stormtrooper reinforcements attacking,
348 00:19:01,098 00:19:05,728 just to make this again feel like, why isn't the Empire throwing more at them? just to make this again feel like, why isn't the Empire throwing more at them?
349 00:19:07,855 00:19:10,982 You know, why isn't it a bigger battle coming up? You know, why isn't it a bigger battle coming up?
350 00:19:11,066 00:19:14,320 So we tried to make it feel like it's a larger scale thing. So we tried to make it feel like it's a larger scale thing.
351 00:19:15,654 00:19:18,531 A lot of the smoke and fire also cover that A lot of the smoke and fire also cover that
352 00:19:18,615 00:19:21,702 and buy you that there was a bigger conflict than there was. and buy you that there was a bigger conflict than there was.
353 00:19:23,662 00:19:27,415 This was a bit of a color timing that Sean Wells This was a bit of a color timing that Sean Wells
354 00:19:27,499 00:19:31,211 would have done with Joel to try and give you the feeling of this would have done with Joel to try and give you the feeling of this
355 00:19:31,295 00:19:33,505 bizarre weapon that we had never seen before. bizarre weapon that we had never seen before.
356 00:19:33,589 00:19:38,385 And we set it up there, through sound, design, And we set it up there, through sound, design,
357 00:19:38,469 00:19:41,819 and lighting that something's happened that we're not familiar with. and lighting that something's happened that we're not familiar with.
358 00:19:43,557 00:19:47,310 Again, now we just want a sense of dread and foreboding, Again, now we just want a sense of dread and foreboding,
359 00:19:47,394 00:19:49,437 and this was a pretty tricky scene. and this was a pretty tricky scene.
360 00:19:49,521 00:19:52,524 It's pretty heavy stuff, It's pretty heavy stuff,
361 00:19:52,608 00:19:56,444 but we finally learn now in the final moments, but we finally learn now in the final moments,
362 00:19:56,528 00:19:59,990 what was it that Sabine had done, why was she not with her family, what was it that Sabine had done, why was she not with her family,
363 00:20:00,074 00:20:01,874 why was there this big disagreement? why was there this big disagreement?
364 00:20:03,160 00:20:08,207 What was at the root of her leaving the Academy, finding Ketsu? What was at the root of her leaving the Academy, finding Ketsu?
365 00:20:08,624 00:20:11,876 How... What caused all this? How... What caused all this?
366 00:20:11,960 00:20:14,462 And we find out that it's a weapon that she had developed. And we find out that it's a weapon that she had developed.
367 00:20:14,546 00:20:18,049 The weapon that takes the very thing the Mandalorians pride themselves on, The weapon that takes the very thing the Mandalorians pride themselves on,
368 00:20:18,133 00:20:22,179 this armor and, uh, destroys it... this armor and, uh, destroys it...
369 00:20:23,055 00:20:25,516 makes it a vulnerability instead of a strength. makes it a vulnerability instead of a strength.
370 00:20:26,433 00:20:29,228 So it's a terrible thing when you think of it that way. So it's a terrible thing when you think of it that way.
371 00:20:30,062 00:20:31,187 And you can see there clearly And you can see there clearly
372 00:20:31,271 00:20:33,982 kind of the silhouette of a person in the burned armor. kind of the silhouette of a person in the burned armor.
373 00:20:34,358 00:20:36,192 So the armor becomes brittle, So the armor becomes brittle,
374 00:20:36,276 00:20:39,612 but it also becomes a conductor for this electrical pulse but it also becomes a conductor for this electrical pulse
375 00:20:39,696 00:20:43,200 which super heats and disintegrates you. which super heats and disintegrates you.
376 00:20:43,575 00:20:44,725 It's a terrible weapon. It's a terrible weapon.
377 00:20:46,912 00:20:48,913 And now Sabine has to kind of face her past. And now Sabine has to kind of face her past.
378 00:20:48,997 00:20:51,166 Not just her family, but her whole past Not just her family, but her whole past
379 00:20:51,250 00:20:52,917 and the person that she was and the person that she was
380 00:20:53,001 00:20:56,338 in order to become the person that she may yet be. in order to become the person that she may yet be.
381 00:20:57,131 00:21:00,592 And that is the first part of "Heroes of Mandalore." And that is the first part of "Heroes of Mandalore."