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1 | 00:00:01,251 | 00:00:04,129 | Hello, I am Dave Filoni, Executive Producer... | Hello, I am Dave Filoni, Executive Producer... |
2 | 00:00:04,462 | 00:00:06,089 | of Star Wars Rebels. | of Star Wars Rebels. |
3 | 00:00:06,173 | 00:00:10,468 | I am going to be talking about "Heroes of Mandalore: Part 1." | I am going to be talking about "Heroes of Mandalore: Part 1." |
4 | 00:00:10,886 | 00:00:12,553 | I remember starting work on this episode, | I remember starting work on this episode, |
5 | 00:00:12,637 | 00:00:15,681 | and I was actually in London at the time | and I was actually in London at the time |
6 | 00:00:15,765 | 00:00:17,767 | when I was working out this storyboard. | when I was working out this storyboard. |
7 | 00:00:17,976 | 00:00:21,771 | I believe I was visiting the set of Episode 8... | I believe I was visiting the set of Episode 8... |
8 | 00:00:22,314 | 00:00:26,984 | and in between takes and shoots, | and in between takes and shoots, |
9 | 00:00:27,068 | 00:00:31,030 | I was over in our Lucasfilm HQ | I was over in our Lucasfilm HQ |
10 | 00:00:31,114 | 00:00:36,119 | doing these storyboards and sending them back to California. | doing these storyboards and sending them back to California. |
11 | 00:00:36,703 | 00:00:40,248 | And I was actually talking, | And I was actually talking, |
12 | 00:00:40,332 | 00:00:43,334 | via Skype and whatnot, | via Skype and whatnot, |
13 | 00:00:43,418 | 00:00:46,004 | with the team back on Rebels. | with the team back on Rebels. |
14 | 00:00:47,047 | 00:00:48,631 | Uh, so that was kind of an interesting thing. | Uh, so that was kind of an interesting thing. |
15 | 00:00:48,715 | 00:00:52,510 | It was very inspiring to be over there and watch Rian work. | It was very inspiring to be over there and watch Rian work. |
16 | 00:00:54,596 | 00:00:56,180 | I thought it was really interesting to see. | I thought it was really interesting to see. |
17 | 00:00:56,264 | 00:01:00,434 | It's been very interesting to see these other directors working and then, | It's been very interesting to see these other directors working and then, |
18 | 00:01:00,518 | 00:01:03,813 | you know, be inspired and challenged to do better. | you know, be inspired and challenged to do better. |
19 | 00:01:04,231 | 00:01:08,068 | This episode arc really was about... | This episode arc really was about... |
20 | 00:01:08,443 | 00:01:12,906 | resolving, uh, Sabine's family situation, | resolving, uh, Sabine's family situation, |
21 | 00:01:13,198 | 00:01:14,658 | saving her father... | saving her father... |
22 | 00:01:15,075 | 00:01:17,702 | getting her family back together... | getting her family back together... |
23 | 00:01:18,411 | 00:01:21,247 | so that she would have more stable ground | so that she would have more stable ground |
24 | 00:01:21,331 | 00:01:25,126 | to go back and be with her other family, the rebels. | to go back and be with her other family, the rebels. |
25 | 00:01:25,919 | 00:01:29,672 | So, I never thought, when we began Rebels, | So, I never thought, when we began Rebels, |
26 | 00:01:29,756 | 00:01:31,256 | that we would be on Mandalore. | that we would be on Mandalore. |
27 | 00:01:31,466 | 00:01:33,843 | I thought we had left all of that behind... | I thought we had left all of that behind... |
28 | 00:01:34,427 | 00:01:37,555 | on The Clone Wars, but here we were. | on The Clone Wars, but here we were. |
29 | 00:01:39,474 | 00:01:43,520 | And, you know, it's a challenge because this battle... | And, you know, it's a challenge because this battle... |
30 | 00:01:44,187 | 00:01:47,607 | in the end, you always feel like it could be two, three times | in the end, you always feel like it could be two, three times |
31 | 00:01:47,691 | 00:01:50,860 | as big as it's represented in what we were able to shoot. | as big as it's represented in what we were able to shoot. |
32 | 00:01:50,944 | 00:01:52,028 | As big as it's represented in what we were able to shoot. | As big as it's represented in what we were able to shoot. |
33 | 00:01:52,112 | 00:01:54,762 | In Clone Wars, it would have been much bigger. Here... | In Clone Wars, it would have been much bigger. Here... |
34 | 00:01:55,448 | 00:01:57,366 | I have to be very economical | I have to be very economical |
35 | 00:01:57,450 | 00:02:00,411 | with how many stormtroopers I have in a scene, | with how many stormtroopers I have in a scene, |
36 | 00:02:00,495 | 00:02:03,080 | how we spread the Mandalorians out | how we spread the Mandalorians out |
37 | 00:02:03,164 | 00:02:06,209 | to make this feel like a bigger combat. | to make this feel like a bigger combat. |
38 | 00:02:07,502 | 00:02:11,505 | But it is a series of skirmishes that you feel is building towards something | But it is a series of skirmishes that you feel is building towards something |
39 | 00:02:11,589 | 00:02:13,883 | a lot bigger later on. | a lot bigger later on. |
40 | 00:02:14,551 | 00:02:19,513 | Jetpack stormtroopers versus any type of Mandalorians or Jedis, | Jetpack stormtroopers versus any type of Mandalorians or Jedis, |
41 | 00:02:19,597 | 00:02:21,807 | not much of a competition. | not much of a competition. |
42 | 00:02:21,891 | 00:02:25,394 | But it's interesting to see it happen, | But it's interesting to see it happen, |
43 | 00:02:25,478 | 00:02:28,356 | showing Sabine and all of her action prowess. | showing Sabine and all of her action prowess. |
44 | 00:02:29,858 | 00:02:32,068 | Again, that's something you see throughout Season 4, | Again, that's something you see throughout Season 4, |
45 | 00:02:32,152 | 00:02:36,948 | and something that we evolve her into being a character | and something that we evolve her into being a character |
46 | 00:02:37,032 | 00:02:41,118 | that isn't just of brawn and might and skill with action, | that isn't just of brawn and might and skill with action, |
47 | 00:02:41,202 | 00:02:43,580 | but also of her mind throughout the season. | but also of her mind throughout the season. |
48 | 00:02:44,581 | 00:02:46,624 | And then you have to find different gags. | And then you have to find different gags. |
49 | 00:02:46,708 | 00:02:52,004 | After 12 years, I've done a lot of different gags in Star Wars, | After 12 years, I've done a lot of different gags in Star Wars, |
50 | 00:02:52,088 | 00:02:54,382 | visual gags, | visual gags, |
51 | 00:02:54,466 | 00:02:57,343 | you know, dialogue gags, | you know, dialogue gags, |
52 | 00:02:57,427 | 00:02:59,762 | to differing degrees of success. | to differing degrees of success. |
53 | 00:02:59,846 | 00:03:01,555 | Sometimes it turns out, | Sometimes it turns out, |
54 | 00:03:01,639 | 00:03:05,017 | sometimes, like, well, I liked it more in my head, | sometimes, like, well, I liked it more in my head, |
55 | 00:03:05,101 | 00:03:08,521 | but, you know, you try to play some comedy against, uh, | but, you know, you try to play some comedy against, uh, |
56 | 00:03:08,605 | 00:03:10,398 | whatever else you got going on. | whatever else you got going on. |
57 | 00:03:11,441 | 00:03:15,569 | I like these, I mean, despite them being no match for Mandalorians, | I like these, I mean, despite them being no match for Mandalorians, |
58 | 00:03:15,653 | 00:03:18,239 | the jetpack troopers certainly look cool. | the jetpack troopers certainly look cool. |
59 | 00:03:18,323 | 00:03:21,076 | It's always good to have new troopers and... | It's always good to have new troopers and... |
60 | 00:03:22,160 | 00:03:25,454 | Gar Saxon's brother Tiber here was interesting | Gar Saxon's brother Tiber here was interesting |
61 | 00:03:25,538 | 00:03:29,417 | in that he's someone that's really adopted the Imperials' ways. | in that he's someone that's really adopted the Imperials' ways. |
62 | 00:03:29,834 | 00:03:32,586 | He's kind of a, really, a massive traitor | He's kind of a, really, a massive traitor |
63 | 00:03:32,670 | 00:03:35,381 | to everything Mandalore at the end of the day | to everything Mandalore at the end of the day |
64 | 00:03:35,465 | 00:03:38,176 | because he is given over to wanting his own power. | because he is given over to wanting his own power. |
65 | 00:03:38,843 | 00:03:42,805 | He's not as interested in preserving his history, | He's not as interested in preserving his history, |
66 | 00:03:42,889 | 00:03:46,267 | preserving his house, those things. | preserving his house, those things. |
67 | 00:03:46,351 | 00:03:48,519 | He's more interested in absolute power. | He's more interested in absolute power. |
68 | 00:03:48,603 | 00:03:52,607 | And again, it's another version of all power is corrupting... | And again, it's another version of all power is corrupting... |
69 | 00:03:54,484 | 00:03:57,028 | even for Mandalorians, who are these warriors. | even for Mandalorians, who are these warriors. |
70 | 00:03:57,112 | 00:04:01,449 | At least true Mandalorians have a degree of honor to them | At least true Mandalorians have a degree of honor to them |
71 | 00:04:01,533 | 00:04:03,618 | in the way they fight. | in the way they fight. |
72 | 00:04:04,035 | 00:04:07,455 | They have a sense of family, obviously. | They have a sense of family, obviously. |
73 | 00:04:07,539 | 00:04:11,167 | And a bit of this season was | And a bit of this season was |
74 | 00:04:11,251 | 00:04:14,587 | showing more of Mandalore, and then also breaking it down a bit. | showing more of Mandalore, and then also breaking it down a bit. |
75 | 00:04:14,671 | 00:04:19,633 | And starting to build an explanation for why we don't see so many | And starting to build an explanation for why we don't see so many |
76 | 00:04:19,717 | 00:04:21,677 | in the original trilogy, and what were they up to. | in the original trilogy, and what were they up to. |
77 | 00:04:21,761 | 00:04:24,764 | There was a big space there that we could occupy, | There was a big space there that we could occupy, |
78 | 00:04:24,848 | 00:04:29,101 | and we'll actually be able to tell some of that story | and we'll actually be able to tell some of that story |
79 | 00:04:29,185 | 00:04:31,521 | on Star Wars Rebels, which is very unique. | on Star Wars Rebels, which is very unique. |
80 | 00:04:32,188 | 00:04:37,526 | 'Cause you don't, the only Mandalorian armor that you see is worn by Boba Fett | 'Cause you don't, the only Mandalorian armor that you see is worn by Boba Fett |
81 | 00:04:37,610 | 00:04:38,944 | in the original trilogy. | in the original trilogy. |
82 | 00:04:39,028 | 00:04:41,739 | So here, we have a bunch more people running around in, | So here, we have a bunch more people running around in, |
83 | 00:04:41,823 | 00:04:44,868 | you know, almost the same time period, which is a big deal. | you know, almost the same time period, which is a big deal. |
84 | 00:04:46,327 | 00:04:50,373 | Katee Sackhoff came back playing Bo-Katan, which was really thrilling. | Katee Sackhoff came back playing Bo-Katan, which was really thrilling. |
85 | 00:04:50,457 | 00:04:52,876 | I thought she was excellent here. | I thought she was excellent here. |
86 | 00:04:53,376 | 00:04:55,294 | We were able to give her a lot more to do, | We were able to give her a lot more to do, |
87 | 00:04:55,378 | 00:04:57,964 | especially dialogue-wise than her Clone Wars days. | especially dialogue-wise than her Clone Wars days. |
88 | 00:04:58,756 | 00:05:00,216 | And she was brilliant. | And she was brilliant. |
89 | 00:05:00,300 | 00:05:04,387 | It's something bizarre | It's something bizarre |
90 | 00:05:04,471 | 00:05:07,139 | and also wonderful to see some of these characters | and also wonderful to see some of these characters |
91 | 00:05:07,223 | 00:05:09,934 | that my team and I worked with on Clone Wars, | that my team and I worked with on Clone Wars, |
92 | 00:05:10,018 | 00:05:12,228 | now appearing in Rebels. | now appearing in Rebels. |
93 | 00:05:12,312 | 00:05:16,524 | You didn't know if we would ever see them again, | You didn't know if we would ever see them again, |
94 | 00:05:16,608 | 00:05:17,983 | have scenes with them again. | have scenes with them again. |
95 | 00:05:18,067 | 00:05:22,613 | And yet here we've been very fortunate to find ways to make it work, | And yet here we've been very fortunate to find ways to make it work, |
96 | 00:05:22,697 | 00:05:25,533 | ways that made sense, | ways that made sense, |
97 | 00:05:25,617 | 00:05:28,828 | and I think the audience has enjoyed it as well, | and I think the audience has enjoyed it as well, |
98 | 00:05:28,912 | 00:05:32,540 | having these characters included in Rebels. | having these characters included in Rebels. |
99 | 00:05:33,666 | 00:05:37,461 | It's just been an unexpected | It's just been an unexpected |
100 | 00:05:37,545 | 00:05:40,715 | kind of thing that happened, and this. | kind of thing that happened, and this. |
101 | 00:05:41,341 | 00:05:42,800 | What a bizarre moment. | What a bizarre moment. |
102 | 00:05:42,884 | 00:05:46,053 | Again, I have Sabine looking at Bo-Katan, | Again, I have Sabine looking at Bo-Katan, |
103 | 00:05:46,137 | 00:05:52,059 | these two female Mandalorian warriors that, | these two female Mandalorian warriors that, |
104 | 00:05:52,143 | 00:05:57,440 | you know, I've helped put into the Star Wars universe, | you know, I've helped put into the Star Wars universe, |
105 | 00:05:57,524 | 00:06:01,277 | and, man, I don't think I ever thought that they would be | and, man, I don't think I ever thought that they would be |
106 | 00:06:01,361 | 00:06:04,611 | talking to each other, let alone have this important role to play. | talking to each other, let alone have this important role to play. |
107 | 00:06:05,365 | 00:06:09,493 | This arc in some ways also is about | This arc in some ways also is about |
108 | 00:06:09,577 | 00:06:14,790 | this younger woman needing some support, | this younger woman needing some support, |
109 | 00:06:14,874 | 00:06:18,085 | and to have an older woman challenge her | and to have an older woman challenge her |
110 | 00:06:18,169 | 00:06:21,464 | and stand up for her when it really mattered, | and stand up for her when it really mattered, |
111 | 00:06:21,548 | 00:06:26,010 | to not have this combative attitude, | to not have this combative attitude, |
112 | 00:06:26,094 | 00:06:27,720 | but a supportive attitude. | but a supportive attitude. |
113 | 00:06:28,096 | 00:06:31,682 | You know, I talk a lot, | You know, I talk a lot, |
114 | 00:06:31,766 | 00:06:35,978 | not just with my co-workers here, | not just with my co-workers here, |
115 | 00:06:36,062 | 00:06:38,189 | like Carrie Beck and Kiri Hart... | like Carrie Beck and Kiri Hart... |
116 | 00:06:39,774 | 00:06:43,444 | I talk with my wife about female representation and roles and films. | I talk with my wife about female representation and roles and films. |
117 | 00:06:43,528 | 00:06:47,740 | And it's... It's not something that's obvious to me at first, | And it's... It's not something that's obvious to me at first, |
118 | 00:06:47,824 | 00:06:49,909 | but I've come to understand | but I've come to understand |
119 | 00:06:49,993 | 00:06:52,411 | that it's not something you see a lot in films, | that it's not something you see a lot in films, |
120 | 00:06:52,495 | 00:06:57,124 | this role of, in an action movie, women supporting other women. | this role of, in an action movie, women supporting other women. |
121 | 00:06:57,208 | 00:07:03,214 | You're lucky if you get one female character in a movie, | You're lucky if you get one female character in a movie, |
122 | 00:07:03,298 | 00:07:05,598 | and sometimes they're in the role of a warrior. | and sometimes they're in the role of a warrior. |
123 | 00:07:06,884 | 00:07:09,584 | But there's not a lot that makes them unique otherwise. | But there's not a lot that makes them unique otherwise. |
124 | 00:07:11,431 | 00:07:14,808 | And so to have multiple roles | And so to have multiple roles |
125 | 00:07:14,892 | 00:07:18,229 | of female characters all portraying, | of female characters all portraying, |
126 | 00:07:18,313 | 00:07:20,648 | not just their ability to wield the weapon | not just their ability to wield the weapon |
127 | 00:07:20,732 | 00:07:22,775 | or to be involved in action, | or to be involved in action, |
128 | 00:07:22,859 | 00:07:26,278 | but to have a deeper sense or commitment to who they are as people, | but to have a deeper sense or commitment to who they are as people, |
129 | 00:07:26,362 | 00:07:28,656 | how they interact with other people, | how they interact with other people, |
130 | 00:07:28,740 | 00:07:32,243 | how they share screen time with other female characters. | how they share screen time with other female characters. |
131 | 00:07:32,327 | 00:07:35,913 | That you can have lengthy dialogue conversations | That you can have lengthy dialogue conversations |
132 | 00:07:35,997 | 00:07:40,000 | and interaction between these characters | and interaction between these characters |
133 | 00:07:40,084 | 00:07:43,087 | and show growth and evolution of these characters. | and show growth and evolution of these characters. |
134 | 00:07:44,589 | 00:07:49,677 | You know, I think it's becoming more the language, it's becoming more common, | You know, I think it's becoming more the language, it's becoming more common, |
135 | 00:07:49,761 | 00:07:50,886 | and it just needs to, | and it just needs to, |
136 | 00:07:50,970 | 00:07:53,180 | because this is when we really start | because this is when we really start |
137 | 00:07:53,264 | 00:07:56,141 | creating what's referred to, I think, as strong female characters, | creating what's referred to, I think, as strong female characters, |
138 | 00:07:56,225 | 00:07:58,102 | when they're dimensional female characters, | when they're dimensional female characters, |
139 | 00:07:58,186 | 00:07:59,562 | when they're characters that have an arc, | when they're characters that have an arc, |
140 | 00:07:59,646 | 00:08:01,438 | that have purpose and meaning, | that have purpose and meaning, |
141 | 00:08:01,522 | 00:08:04,483 | that aren't just there to be action orientated, | that aren't just there to be action orientated, |
142 | 00:08:04,567 | 00:08:07,861 | they have a real story, real motivations. | they have a real story, real motivations. |
143 | 00:08:07,945 | 00:08:12,032 | And here, a motivation to save your family, | And here, a motivation to save your family, |
144 | 00:08:12,116 | 00:08:13,534 | to bring your family back together, | to bring your family back together, |
145 | 00:08:13,618 | 00:08:15,703 | to save your father. | to save your father. |
146 | 00:08:16,579 | 00:08:20,500 | You know, Sabine's mother is a very fun character to have. | You know, Sabine's mother is a very fun character to have. |
147 | 00:08:21,042 | 00:08:24,420 | She is definitely tough, | She is definitely tough, |
148 | 00:08:24,504 | 00:08:27,047 | and I wouldn't say she's independent, | and I wouldn't say she's independent, |
149 | 00:08:27,131 | 00:08:27,130 | she's the matriarch of the family, she's the leader of the family. | she's the matriarch of the family, she's the leader of the family. |
150 | 00:08:27,214 | 00:08:30,464 | She's the matriarch of the family, she's the leader of the family. | She's the matriarch of the family, she's the leader of the family. |
151 | 00:08:31,052 | 00:08:33,304 | She's actually the harder edged one, | She's actually the harder edged one, |
152 | 00:08:33,388 | 00:08:36,432 | where her father is the more artistic one. | where her father is the more artistic one. |
153 | 00:08:36,766 | 00:08:39,227 | I don't think her father is very much the warrior. | I don't think her father is very much the warrior. |
154 | 00:08:40,853 | 00:08:42,689 | I think that's okay, you know. | I think that's okay, you know. |
155 | 00:08:43,564 | 00:08:46,764 | Again, you need a wide range of characters and character types... | Again, you need a wide range of characters and character types... |
156 | 00:08:47,235 | 00:08:51,364 | and you shouldn't have all one thing for one type of character... | and you shouldn't have all one thing for one type of character... |
157 | 00:08:51,864 | 00:08:53,866 | or one group of characters. | or one group of characters. |
158 | 00:08:54,534 | 00:08:58,329 | This was an important scene because Hera and Kanan share | This was an important scene because Hera and Kanan share |
159 | 00:08:58,579 | 00:09:03,167 | such little screen time in the beginning two episodes, | such little screen time in the beginning two episodes, |
160 | 00:09:03,251 | 00:09:06,253 | and they're very important characters, as we all know, | and they're very important characters, as we all know, |
161 | 00:09:06,337 | 00:09:08,213 | later in the season to have together. | later in the season to have together. |
162 | 00:09:08,297 | 00:09:12,927 | So, we started building that here... | So, we started building that here... |
163 | 00:09:13,720 | 00:09:16,055 | where Kanan is, even now at the beginning, | where Kanan is, even now at the beginning, |
164 | 00:09:16,139 | 00:09:20,017 | kind of alluding to a relationship between them | kind of alluding to a relationship between them |
165 | 00:09:20,101 | 00:09:23,646 | more strongly than he has perhaps before. | more strongly than he has perhaps before. |
166 | 00:09:23,730 | 00:09:26,816 | And Hera's still very on point, on mission. | And Hera's still very on point, on mission. |
167 | 00:09:27,275 | 00:09:30,736 | And only Chopper is the one that's really like, "Come on, guys, we have... | And only Chopper is the one that's really like, "Come on, guys, we have... |
168 | 00:09:30,820 | 00:09:31,987 | "Is this really happening?" | "Is this really happening?" |
169 | 00:09:32,071 | 00:09:34,823 | And that's just the insight to the fact that Chopper | And that's just the insight to the fact that Chopper |
170 | 00:09:34,907 | 00:09:38,285 | has seen this more than any of the other characters over the years, | has seen this more than any of the other characters over the years, |
171 | 00:09:38,369 | 00:09:42,457 | that he knows the depth of which these two have a relationship... | that he knows the depth of which these two have a relationship... |
172 | 00:09:43,666 | 00:09:45,250 | what the reality is between them. | what the reality is between them. |
173 | 00:09:45,334 | 00:09:47,503 | Chopper knows, he's on the in, | Chopper knows, he's on the in, |
174 | 00:09:47,587 | 00:09:49,756 | but the rest of the crew not so much. | but the rest of the crew not so much. |
175 | 00:09:50,298 | 00:09:51,841 | They don't really know. | They don't really know. |
176 | 00:09:53,092 | 00:09:58,097 | Here we need a big action scene, action set piece, | Here we need a big action scene, action set piece, |
177 | 00:09:58,181 | 00:10:03,936 | to really kind of kick this episode up a bit, to keep it moving. | to really kind of kick this episode up a bit, to keep it moving. |
178 | 00:10:04,604 | 00:10:08,899 | It was, of course, I think you're always influenced by films | It was, of course, I think you're always influenced by films |
179 | 00:10:08,983 | 00:10:11,026 | that you watch growing up, | that you watch growing up, |
180 | 00:10:11,110 | 00:10:13,571 | great sequences stick with you. | great sequences stick with you. |
181 | 00:10:13,738 | 00:10:16,865 | There is an element, when I would talk to the group, I was saying, | There is an element, when I would talk to the group, I was saying, |
182 | 00:10:16,949 | 00:10:21,161 | "Remember Indiana Jones when he's trying to steal the ark from the truck | "Remember Indiana Jones when he's trying to steal the ark from the truck |
183 | 00:10:21,245 | 00:10:22,955 | "and go look at that. | "and go look at that. |
184 | 00:10:24,123 | 00:10:28,669 | "Pay attention to the way it's shot, pay attention to the timing of things." | "Pay attention to the way it's shot, pay attention to the timing of things." |
185 | 00:10:29,086 | 00:10:32,006 | The editors even look at that stuff, | The editors even look at that stuff, |
186 | 00:10:32,173 | 00:10:33,716 | and, you know, just use it as a touchstone, | and, you know, just use it as a touchstone, |
187 | 00:10:33,800 | 00:10:39,013 | as George would use many films to influence him over the years. | as George would use many films to influence him over the years. |
188 | 00:10:39,680 | 00:10:43,434 | And I'm lucky to have grown up, as my whole team was, | And I'm lucky to have grown up, as my whole team was, |
189 | 00:10:43,518 | 00:10:45,769 | with a bunch of great films, | with a bunch of great films, |
190 | 00:10:45,853 | 00:10:49,148 | kind of a heyday of action adventure films | kind of a heyday of action adventure films |
191 | 00:10:49,232 | 00:10:51,191 | done by Steven Spielberg and George Lucas, | done by Steven Spielberg and George Lucas, |
192 | 00:10:51,275 | 00:10:53,235 | and Robert Zemeckis. | and Robert Zemeckis. |
193 | 00:10:53,319 | 00:10:58,032 | And so, a lot of great references out there and influences. | And so, a lot of great references out there and influences. |
194 | 00:10:58,574 | 00:11:00,868 | An important thing in this one is speed. | An important thing in this one is speed. |
195 | 00:11:00,952 | 00:11:05,497 | To have the speeders constantly moving | To have the speeders constantly moving |
196 | 00:11:05,581 | 00:11:12,213 | adds a sense of somewhat tension to the entire movement of the action sequence. | adds a sense of somewhat tension to the entire movement of the action sequence. |
197 | 00:11:13,089 | 00:11:18,010 | Introducing the father character here to make it very clear | Introducing the father character here to make it very clear |
198 | 00:11:18,094 | 00:11:22,639 | who he is and where he is in this little group of vehicles | who he is and where he is in this little group of vehicles |
199 | 00:11:22,723 | 00:11:26,894 | would be very important to keep the audience | would be very important to keep the audience |
200 | 00:11:26,978 | 00:11:29,396 | aware of what's going on, | aware of what's going on, |
201 | 00:11:29,480 | 00:11:32,232 | and keep them right at the edge of... | and keep them right at the edge of... |
202 | 00:11:32,316 | 00:11:35,528 | Are they going to make it out? Are they going to rescue him? | Are they going to make it out? Are they going to rescue him? |
203 | 00:11:36,362 | 00:11:39,782 | So, again, a big moment for Sabine as we watch her dive into battle. | So, again, a big moment for Sabine as we watch her dive into battle. |
204 | 00:11:40,533 | 00:11:44,244 | These are some very big sets for us to do | These are some very big sets for us to do |
205 | 00:11:44,328 | 00:11:45,913 | on Star Wars Rebels. | on Star Wars Rebels. |
206 | 00:11:45,997 | 00:11:48,540 | A lot of real estate we're covering here. | A lot of real estate we're covering here. |
207 | 00:11:48,624 | 00:11:52,169 | So we have to also at the same time be economical | So we have to also at the same time be economical |
208 | 00:11:52,253 | 00:11:54,379 | with how we're trying to technically achieve this. | with how we're trying to technically achieve this. |
209 | 00:11:54,463 | 00:11:59,176 | And, you know, Joel Aron, Keith Kellogg, Paul Zinnes, | And, you know, Joel Aron, Keith Kellogg, Paul Zinnes, |
210 | 00:11:59,260 | 00:12:02,679 | these are people that have been with me for many years, | these are people that have been with me for many years, |
211 | 00:12:02,763 | 00:12:04,599 | dating back to Clone Wars. | dating back to Clone Wars. |
212 | 00:12:04,974 | 00:12:07,768 | We worked out so many sequences like this, | We worked out so many sequences like this, |
213 | 00:12:07,852 | 00:12:10,312 | but it doesn't mean they become any easier. | but it doesn't mean they become any easier. |
214 | 00:12:10,396 | 00:12:12,940 | Each one is challenging and different. | Each one is challenging and different. |
215 | 00:12:13,608 | 00:12:16,068 | You have to keep trying to do different things. | You have to keep trying to do different things. |
216 | 00:12:17,653 | 00:12:22,491 | The audience is always ever more sophisticated with what they've seen, | The audience is always ever more sophisticated with what they've seen, |
217 | 00:12:22,575 | 00:12:23,825 | what they've experienced. | what they've experienced. |
218 | 00:12:25,202 | 00:12:28,372 | I think it's very fun to see Sabine steal this speeder bike | I think it's very fun to see Sabine steal this speeder bike |
219 | 00:12:28,456 | 00:12:29,623 | and use it to shield herself. | and use it to shield herself. |
220 | 00:12:29,707 | 00:12:33,585 | It's always a problem of why aren't people getting blasted? | It's always a problem of why aren't people getting blasted? |
221 | 00:12:33,669 | 00:12:37,297 | How do you suspend this belief that | How do you suspend this belief that |
222 | 00:12:37,381 | 00:12:40,467 | they should be taking her out at any moment? | they should be taking her out at any moment? |
223 | 00:12:40,551 | 00:12:42,651 | A lot of that's credited to the editors... | A lot of that's credited to the editors... |
224 | 00:12:43,012 | 00:12:47,266 | keeping the cut very tight as everything is moving. | keeping the cut very tight as everything is moving. |
225 | 00:12:47,350 | 00:12:49,142 | A nice heroic moment for Kanan. | A nice heroic moment for Kanan. |
226 | 00:12:49,226 | 00:12:53,647 | Again, these, each moment then changes the rhythm | Again, these, each moment then changes the rhythm |
227 | 00:12:53,731 | 00:12:56,149 | and the tempo of the sequence. | and the tempo of the sequence. |
228 | 00:12:56,233 | 00:12:58,735 | Now Kanan has entered it. | Now Kanan has entered it. |
229 | 00:12:58,819 | 00:13:01,739 | It's a heroic moment and a turn in the battle. | It's a heroic moment and a turn in the battle. |
230 | 00:13:02,949 | 00:13:04,366 | Things get a little bit better. | Things get a little bit better. |
231 | 00:13:04,450 | 00:13:06,201 | There's a really intense moment | There's a really intense moment |
232 | 00:13:06,285 | 00:13:10,080 | where Chopper just knocks the heck out of a stormtrooper coming up. | where Chopper just knocks the heck out of a stormtrooper coming up. |
233 | 00:13:10,164 | 00:13:12,958 | And, boy, I wasn't sure that one was going to go through, | And, boy, I wasn't sure that one was going to go through, |
234 | 00:13:13,042 | 00:13:14,835 | but yeah, I think so 'cause when it's a droid, | but yeah, I think so 'cause when it's a droid, |
235 | 00:13:14,919 | 00:13:17,254 | people don't seem to worry so much. | people don't seem to worry so much. |
236 | 00:13:18,673 | 00:13:20,507 | This here is fun. | This here is fun. |
237 | 00:13:20,591 | 00:13:22,801 | We had a lightsaber just take you right out the back. | We had a lightsaber just take you right out the back. |
238 | 00:13:22,885 | 00:13:24,636 | It would cut right through, | It would cut right through, |
239 | 00:13:24,720 | 00:13:26,471 | so it's a nice bit of editing there | so it's a nice bit of editing there |
240 | 00:13:26,555 | 00:13:29,642 | to have Ezra disappear up the side of the car. | to have Ezra disappear up the side of the car. |
241 | 00:13:30,226 | 00:13:34,688 | Again, everything's moving all the time. | Again, everything's moving all the time. |
242 | 00:13:34,772 | 00:13:37,983 | And cutting everything very tight, | And cutting everything very tight, |
243 | 00:13:38,067 | 00:13:40,444 | things being very reactive helps you out here. | things being very reactive helps you out here. |
244 | 00:13:40,861 | 00:13:43,071 | Trimming your footage down | Trimming your footage down |
245 | 00:13:43,155 | 00:13:47,659 | to keep the pace up, really, really helps. | to keep the pace up, really, really helps. |
246 | 00:13:47,743 | 00:13:51,705 | This fight used to be so long in its story form, | This fight used to be so long in its story form, |
247 | 00:13:51,789 | 00:13:54,666 | and we just trimmed and trimmed and trimmed | and we just trimmed and trimmed and trimmed |
248 | 00:13:54,750 | 00:13:57,837 | to make it hopefully as exciting as we could get it. | to make it hopefully as exciting as we could get it. |
249 | 00:13:59,463 | 00:14:02,758 | And you try to put little gags in there, little verbal bits. | And you try to put little gags in there, little verbal bits. |
250 | 00:14:02,842 | 00:14:04,051 | Oh, here it is with Chopper. | Oh, here it is with Chopper. |
251 | 00:14:04,135 | 00:14:05,761 | Watch, this is just something. | Watch, this is just something. |
252 | 00:14:06,303 | 00:14:07,804 | I mean, that's... Wow. | I mean, that's... Wow. |
253 | 00:14:07,888 | 00:14:11,350 | But it's funny 'cause it's Chopper, I guess. | But it's funny 'cause it's Chopper, I guess. |
254 | 00:14:11,434 | 00:14:14,061 | That guy's going to have a headache, though. | That guy's going to have a headache, though. |
255 | 00:14:14,145 | 00:14:15,228 | But you know, there's something | But you know, there's something |
256 | 00:14:15,312 | 00:14:17,064 | for everyone in a scene like this. | for everyone in a scene like this. |
257 | 00:14:18,691 | 00:14:19,858 | That's always good. | That's always good. |
258 | 00:14:19,942 | 00:14:22,942 | It reminds me of when Luke cuts off the front of the speeder. | It reminds me of when Luke cuts off the front of the speeder. |
259 | 00:14:23,946 | 00:14:25,822 | And I thought that was just a great idea. | And I thought that was just a great idea. |
260 | 00:14:25,906 | 00:14:31,662 | I think Sterling had boarding when Kanan lands on the front of the speeder bike, | I think Sterling had boarding when Kanan lands on the front of the speeder bike, |
261 | 00:14:31,746 | 00:14:34,665 | and they have a conversation. That's a nice little moment there. | and they have a conversation. That's a nice little moment there. |
262 | 00:14:34,749 | 00:14:37,250 | Again, we've done different speeder chases. | Again, we've done different speeder chases. |
263 | 00:14:37,334 | 00:14:40,212 | What can we make to have this be different? | What can we make to have this be different? |
264 | 00:14:41,589 | 00:14:43,340 | These guys should have opened fire. | These guys should have opened fire. |
265 | 00:14:43,591 | 00:14:45,509 | They're a bit foolish. I don't know why they're waiting, | They're a bit foolish. I don't know why they're waiting, |
266 | 00:14:45,593 | 00:14:49,846 | but we all know Kanan gets it later in the series, | but we all know Kanan gets it later in the series, |
267 | 00:14:49,930 | 00:14:50,980 | so I guess it's okay. | so I guess it's okay. |
268 | 00:14:51,390 | 00:14:53,016 | I don't think many people could jump off | I don't think many people could jump off |
269 | 00:14:53,100 | 00:14:55,350 | a moving speeder like that and keep running, | a moving speeder like that and keep running, |
270 | 00:14:55,644 | 00:14:57,444 | but he's a Jedi, so let's keep that. | but he's a Jedi, so let's keep that. |
271 | 00:14:57,897 | 00:15:01,317 | That little shield device she has is something we put in Clone Wars. | That little shield device she has is something we put in Clone Wars. |
272 | 00:15:03,069 | 00:15:06,655 | Just a little neat kind of gladiator kind of shield. | Just a little neat kind of gladiator kind of shield. |
273 | 00:15:06,739 | 00:15:07,989 | It was kind of fun to do. | It was kind of fun to do. |
274 | 00:15:08,574 | 00:15:11,952 | This is one of my favorite little words, | This is one of my favorite little words, |
275 | 00:15:12,119 | 00:15:16,540 | little dialogue, scenes here words, "I'm not with her, with her." | little dialogue, scenes here words, "I'm not with her, with her." |
276 | 00:15:16,874 | 00:15:18,125 | That was a great moment. | That was a great moment. |
277 | 00:15:19,168 | 00:15:24,756 | And I think definitely, you know, plays at Sabine and Ezra's relationship | And I think definitely, you know, plays at Sabine and Ezra's relationship |
278 | 00:15:24,840 | 00:15:29,428 | is becoming more like a brother and sister instead of some kind of | is becoming more like a brother and sister instead of some kind of |
279 | 00:15:29,512 | 00:15:31,430 | cliched notion that just 'cause they're two young people, | cliched notion that just 'cause they're two young people, |
280 | 00:15:31,514 | 00:15:32,431 | cliched notion that just 'cause they're two young people, | cliched notion that just 'cause they're two young people, |
281 | 00:15:32,515 | 00:15:34,215 | they should somehow be together... | they should somehow be together... |
282 | 00:15:34,558 | 00:15:37,185 | which was never really our intention in this show. | which was never really our intention in this show. |
283 | 00:15:37,269 | 00:15:40,939 | I think early on, it might have seemed like it was going that way, | I think early on, it might have seemed like it was going that way, |
284 | 00:15:41,023 | 00:15:43,859 | but we were able to steer them clear. | but we were able to steer them clear. |
285 | 00:15:44,235 | 00:15:47,821 | This sequence was something that reminded me, | This sequence was something that reminded me, |
286 | 00:15:47,905 | 00:15:51,158 | we did a similar gag actually with Mace Windu | we did a similar gag actually with Mace Windu |
287 | 00:15:51,242 | 00:15:53,577 | in Clone Wars when he's on Ryloth, | in Clone Wars when he's on Ryloth, |
288 | 00:15:53,744 | 00:15:55,787 | and he does a trick somewhat like this. | and he does a trick somewhat like this. |
289 | 00:15:55,871 | 00:15:57,914 | So we have some experience doing these kind of things, | So we have some experience doing these kind of things, |
290 | 00:15:57,998 | 00:16:00,751 | but this one really, | but this one really, |
291 | 00:16:00,835 | 00:16:03,045 | you don't know if he's going to make it. | you don't know if he's going to make it. |
292 | 00:16:03,129 | 00:16:05,923 | That last jump looks like a heck of a jump. | That last jump looks like a heck of a jump. |
293 | 00:16:06,590 | 00:16:10,343 | And I love that it's Ezra and Sabine. | And I love that it's Ezra and Sabine. |
294 | 00:16:10,427 | 00:16:13,096 | They kind of trade off saving each other | They kind of trade off saving each other |
295 | 00:16:13,180 | 00:16:16,349 | throughout this season, which is quite a lot of fun. | throughout this season, which is quite a lot of fun. |
296 | 00:16:16,433 | 00:16:19,061 | So, that turned out to be a nice moment. | So, that turned out to be a nice moment. |
297 | 00:16:19,145 | 00:16:21,795 | And there, I never thought I'd see that place again... | And there, I never thought I'd see that place again... |
298 | 00:16:23,440 | 00:16:25,233 | Sundari, the capital of Mandalore. | Sundari, the capital of Mandalore. |
299 | 00:16:25,317 | 00:16:28,695 | That takes me back to the Satine Kryze days | That takes me back to the Satine Kryze days |
300 | 00:16:28,779 | 00:16:31,990 | and the Darth Maul days and the Obi-Wan days of Mandalore, | and the Darth Maul days and the Obi-Wan days of Mandalore, |
301 | 00:16:32,074 | 00:16:36,912 | and all of this is built on top of what that continuity was, | and all of this is built on top of what that continuity was, |
302 | 00:16:36,996 | 00:16:39,790 | and you know, how this... | and you know, how this... |
303 | 00:16:39,874 | 00:16:41,792 | How Mandalore has wound up in the situation. | How Mandalore has wound up in the situation. |
304 | 00:16:41,876 | 00:16:44,169 | I actually did a large diagram | I actually did a large diagram |
305 | 00:16:44,253 | 00:16:46,505 | that took me a bit, that mapped out the history of Mandalore, | that took me a bit, that mapped out the history of Mandalore, |
306 | 00:16:46,589 | 00:16:52,803 | all the way from the Satine, young Satine, | all the way from the Satine, young Satine, |
307 | 00:16:52,887 | 00:16:56,056 | Obi-Wan days, all the way through now, | Obi-Wan days, all the way through now, |
308 | 00:16:56,140 | 00:16:57,516 | just to figure out how it all worked. | just to figure out how it all worked. |
309 | 00:16:57,600 | 00:17:00,477 | But, this scene got extended. | But, this scene got extended. |
310 | 00:17:00,561 | 00:17:04,315 | I thought this was originally not made a big enough deal... | I thought this was originally not made a big enough deal... |
311 | 00:17:05,191 | 00:17:07,067 | but, you know, this is one of your parents, | but, you know, this is one of your parents, |
312 | 00:17:07,151 | 00:17:08,444 | this has to be a moment. | this has to be a moment. |
313 | 00:17:08,903 | 00:17:13,490 | They left under uncertain terms, | They left under uncertain terms, |
314 | 00:17:13,574 | 00:17:16,243 | and I wanted to feel this type of forgiveness. | and I wanted to feel this type of forgiveness. |
315 | 00:17:16,327 | 00:17:18,787 | I think the surprising thing for Sabine here | I think the surprising thing for Sabine here |
316 | 00:17:18,871 | 00:17:22,040 | is really how accepting her father would be of her | is really how accepting her father would be of her |
317 | 00:17:22,124 | 00:17:23,333 | back into the family. | back into the family. |
318 | 00:17:23,417 | 00:17:25,836 | Sometimes as a young person, you know, | Sometimes as a young person, you know, |
319 | 00:17:25,920 | 00:17:30,257 | you underestimate your parents' ability to forgive. | you underestimate your parents' ability to forgive. |
320 | 00:17:30,341 | 00:17:33,802 | You just see that they're angry at you, or disappointed, | You just see that they're angry at you, or disappointed, |
321 | 00:17:33,886 | 00:17:36,513 | and you don't really understand that, | and you don't really understand that, |
322 | 00:17:36,597 | 00:17:39,850 | you know, they are older and wiser, and that they forgive you | you know, they are older and wiser, and that they forgive you |
323 | 00:17:39,934 | 00:17:41,584 | because ultimately they love you. | because ultimately they love you. |
324 | 00:17:41,977 | 00:17:44,604 | And, you know, I know that's not everybody's experience, | And, you know, I know that's not everybody's experience, |
325 | 00:17:44,688 | 00:17:48,066 | but it's what I wanted to show on this show. | but it's what I wanted to show on this show. |
326 | 00:17:48,150 | 00:17:50,443 | You know, I don't think that every Star Wars character | You know, I don't think that every Star Wars character |
327 | 00:17:50,527 | 00:17:54,740 | has a bad childhood or comes from an odd orphaned place. | has a bad childhood or comes from an odd orphaned place. |
328 | 00:17:54,990 | 00:17:57,742 | Sometimes they just have misunderstandings, | Sometimes they just have misunderstandings, |
329 | 00:17:57,826 | 00:17:59,744 | sometimes they build terrible weapons | sometimes they build terrible weapons |
330 | 00:17:59,828 | 00:18:01,454 | and almost get their people destroyed. | and almost get their people destroyed. |
331 | 00:18:01,538 | 00:18:03,999 | But that's all part of the growing experience, | But that's all part of the growing experience, |
332 | 00:18:04,083 | 00:18:06,710 | uh, as a young person in Star Wars, | uh, as a young person in Star Wars, |
333 | 00:18:06,794 | 00:18:09,963 | and your parents can forgive you of these things. | and your parents can forgive you of these things. |
334 | 00:18:10,047 | 00:18:13,676 | So, fun to have them start talking about painting and armor. | So, fun to have them start talking about painting and armor. |
335 | 00:18:15,469 | 00:18:19,181 | You know, again, to show that her father is a different kind of person | You know, again, to show that her father is a different kind of person |
336 | 00:18:19,265 | 00:18:22,415 | than we've known in Star Wars, someone that's interested in art. | than we've known in Star Wars, someone that's interested in art. |
337 | 00:18:22,977 | 00:18:25,813 | And so I was kind of, it would fit well for Sabine. | And so I was kind of, it would fit well for Sabine. |
338 | 00:18:26,981 | 00:18:30,276 | Here she still has her old hair too, her Season 3 hair... | Here she still has her old hair too, her Season 3 hair... |
339 | 00:18:30,651 | 00:18:34,404 | which was a nice thing for the cosplayers for a little bit. | which was a nice thing for the cosplayers for a little bit. |
340 | 00:18:34,488 | 00:18:37,992 | But that soon changed as her hair changed later in the season. | But that soon changed as her hair changed later in the season. |
341 | 00:18:40,202 | 00:18:41,745 | This sequence, again, | This sequence, again, |
342 | 00:18:41,829 | 00:18:43,330 | I love that helmet her mother wears, | I love that helmet her mother wears, |
343 | 00:18:43,414 | 00:18:45,916 | it's one of the cooler helmets that we did. | it's one of the cooler helmets that we did. |
344 | 00:18:46,000 | 00:18:48,168 | I like the patterns on it, too. | I like the patterns on it, too. |
345 | 00:18:48,877 | 00:18:52,964 | But this sequence needed more added to it. | But this sequence needed more added to it. |
346 | 00:18:53,048 | 00:18:57,510 | We actually did some retakes to add more | We actually did some retakes to add more |
347 | 00:18:57,594 | 00:19:01,014 | stormtrooper reinforcements attacking, | stormtrooper reinforcements attacking, |
348 | 00:19:01,098 | 00:19:05,728 | just to make this again feel like, why isn't the Empire throwing more at them? | just to make this again feel like, why isn't the Empire throwing more at them? |
349 | 00:19:07,855 | 00:19:10,982 | You know, why isn't it a bigger battle coming up? | You know, why isn't it a bigger battle coming up? |
350 | 00:19:11,066 | 00:19:14,320 | So we tried to make it feel like it's a larger scale thing. | So we tried to make it feel like it's a larger scale thing. |
351 | 00:19:15,654 | 00:19:18,531 | A lot of the smoke and fire also cover that | A lot of the smoke and fire also cover that |
352 | 00:19:18,615 | 00:19:21,702 | and buy you that there was a bigger conflict than there was. | and buy you that there was a bigger conflict than there was. |
353 | 00:19:23,662 | 00:19:27,415 | This was a bit of a color timing that Sean Wells | This was a bit of a color timing that Sean Wells |
354 | 00:19:27,499 | 00:19:31,211 | would have done with Joel to try and give you the feeling of this | would have done with Joel to try and give you the feeling of this |
355 | 00:19:31,295 | 00:19:33,505 | bizarre weapon that we had never seen before. | bizarre weapon that we had never seen before. |
356 | 00:19:33,589 | 00:19:38,385 | And we set it up there, through sound, design, | And we set it up there, through sound, design, |
357 | 00:19:38,469 | 00:19:41,819 | and lighting that something's happened that we're not familiar with. | and lighting that something's happened that we're not familiar with. |
358 | 00:19:43,557 | 00:19:47,310 | Again, now we just want a sense of dread and foreboding, | Again, now we just want a sense of dread and foreboding, |
359 | 00:19:47,394 | 00:19:49,437 | and this was a pretty tricky scene. | and this was a pretty tricky scene. |
360 | 00:19:49,521 | 00:19:52,524 | It's pretty heavy stuff, | It's pretty heavy stuff, |
361 | 00:19:52,608 | 00:19:56,444 | but we finally learn now in the final moments, | but we finally learn now in the final moments, |
362 | 00:19:56,528 | 00:19:59,990 | what was it that Sabine had done, why was she not with her family, | what was it that Sabine had done, why was she not with her family, |
363 | 00:20:00,074 | 00:20:01,874 | why was there this big disagreement? | why was there this big disagreement? |
364 | 00:20:03,160 | 00:20:08,207 | What was at the root of her leaving the Academy, finding Ketsu? | What was at the root of her leaving the Academy, finding Ketsu? |
365 | 00:20:08,624 | 00:20:11,876 | How... What caused all this? | How... What caused all this? |
366 | 00:20:11,960 | 00:20:14,462 | And we find out that it's a weapon that she had developed. | And we find out that it's a weapon that she had developed. |
367 | 00:20:14,546 | 00:20:18,049 | The weapon that takes the very thing the Mandalorians pride themselves on, | The weapon that takes the very thing the Mandalorians pride themselves on, |
368 | 00:20:18,133 | 00:20:22,179 | this armor and, uh, destroys it... | this armor and, uh, destroys it... |
369 | 00:20:23,055 | 00:20:25,516 | makes it a vulnerability instead of a strength. | makes it a vulnerability instead of a strength. |
370 | 00:20:26,433 | 00:20:29,228 | So it's a terrible thing when you think of it that way. | So it's a terrible thing when you think of it that way. |
371 | 00:20:30,062 | 00:20:31,187 | And you can see there clearly | And you can see there clearly |
372 | 00:20:31,271 | 00:20:33,982 | kind of the silhouette of a person in the burned armor. | kind of the silhouette of a person in the burned armor. |
373 | 00:20:34,358 | 00:20:36,192 | So the armor becomes brittle, | So the armor becomes brittle, |
374 | 00:20:36,276 | 00:20:39,612 | but it also becomes a conductor for this electrical pulse | but it also becomes a conductor for this electrical pulse |
375 | 00:20:39,696 | 00:20:43,200 | which super heats and disintegrates you. | which super heats and disintegrates you. |
376 | 00:20:43,575 | 00:20:44,725 | It's a terrible weapon. | It's a terrible weapon. |
377 | 00:20:46,912 | 00:20:48,913 | And now Sabine has to kind of face her past. | And now Sabine has to kind of face her past. |
378 | 00:20:48,997 | 00:20:51,166 | Not just her family, but her whole past | Not just her family, but her whole past |
379 | 00:20:51,250 | 00:20:52,917 | and the person that she was | and the person that she was |
380 | 00:20:53,001 | 00:20:56,338 | in order to become the person that she may yet be. | in order to become the person that she may yet be. |
381 | 00:20:57,131 | 00:21:00,592 | And that is the first part of "Heroes of Mandalore." | And that is the first part of "Heroes of Mandalore." |