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1 | 00:00:21,725 | 00:00:23,724 | - Right now I'd like to dedicate this song | - Right now I'd like to dedicate this song |
2 | 00:00:23,725 | 00:00:26,932 | to everybody here with hearts, any kind of hearts and ears. | to everybody here with hearts, any kind of hearts and ears. |
3 | 00:00:26,933 | 00:00:28,308 | Goes something like this here... | Goes something like this here... |
4 | 00:00:32,475 | 00:00:34,558 | Yeah. | Yeah. |
5 | 00:00:34,559 | 00:00:35,765 | Yeah! | Yeah! |
6 | 00:00:54,434 | 00:00:57,765 | ♪ Once upon a time, you dressed so fine ♪ | ♪ Once upon a time, you dressed so fine ♪ |
7 | 00:00:57,766 | 00:01:01,849 | ♪ Threw the bums a dime in your prime ♪ | ♪ Threw the bums a dime in your prime ♪ |
8 | 00:01:01,850 | 00:01:04,266 | ♪ Didn't you? ♪ | ♪ Didn't you? ♪ |
9 | 00:01:06,933 | 00:01:09,599 | ♪ People called, said, "Beware, doll" ♪ | ♪ People called, said, "Beware, doll" ♪ |
10 | 00:01:09,600 | 00:01:11,308 | ♪ You're bound to fall ♪ | ♪ You're bound to fall ♪ |
11 | 00:01:11,309 | 00:01:16,141 | ♪ You thought they all were kidding you ♪ | ♪ You thought they all were kidding you ♪ |
12 | 00:01:19,808 | 00:01:22,974 | ♪ You used to ♪ | ♪ You used to ♪ |
13 | 00:01:22,975 | 00:01:24,308 | ♪ Laugh about ♪ | ♪ Laugh about ♪ |
14 | 00:01:24,309 | 00:01:26,640 | - Volume one, number one. | - Volume one, number one. |
15 | 00:01:26,641 | 00:01:29,266 | A letter from the editor. | A letter from the editor. |
16 | 00:01:29,267 | 00:01:31,558 | You're probably wondering what we're trying to do. | You're probably wondering what we're trying to do. |
17 | 00:01:31,559 | 00:01:35,308 | - ♪ Look at you, but now you don't talk so loud ♪ | - ♪ Look at you, but now you don't talk so loud ♪ |
18 | 00:01:35,309 | 00:01:37,932 | - It's hard to say. | - It's hard to say. |
19 | 00:01:37,933 | 00:01:41,182 | - ♪ But now you don't, baby, seem so proud ♪ | - ♪ But now you don't, baby, seem so proud ♪ |
20 | 00:01:41,183 | 00:01:43,224 | - We hope that we have something here, | - We hope that we have something here, |
21 | 00:01:43,225 | 00:01:46,099 | sort of a magazine, sort of a newspaper. | sort of a magazine, sort of a newspaper. |
22 | 00:01:46,100 | 00:01:47,682 | - ♪ Yeah ♪ | - ♪ Yeah ♪ |
23 | 00:01:47,683 | 00:01:50,849 | - The name of it comes from an old saying. | - The name of it comes from an old saying. |
24 | 00:01:50,850 | 00:01:53,974 | Muddy Waters used the name for a song he wrote. | Muddy Waters used the name for a song he wrote. |
25 | 00:01:53,975 | 00:01:56,349 | - ♪ How does it feel? ♪ | - ♪ How does it feel? ♪ |
26 | 00:01:56,350 | 00:01:59,182 | - The Stones took their name from Muddy's song. | - The Stones took their name from Muddy's song. |
27 | 00:01:59,183 | 00:02:01,224 | - ♪ Oh, how does it feel, baby ♪ | - ♪ Oh, how does it feel, baby ♪ |
28 | 00:02:01,225 | 00:02:03,016 | - It was the title of Bob Dylan's | - It was the title of Bob Dylan's |
29 | 00:02:03,017 | 00:02:05,433 | first rock and roll record. | first rock and roll record. |
30 | 00:02:05,434 | 00:02:06,849 | - ♪ To be on your own? ♪ | - ♪ To be on your own? ♪ |
31 | 00:02:06,850 | 00:02:08,516 | - It's not just about the music, | - It's not just about the music, |
32 | 00:02:08,517 | 00:02:10,349 | but also the things and attitudes | but also the things and attitudes |
33 | 00:02:10,350 | 00:02:12,016 | that the music embraces. | that the music embraces. |
34 | 00:02:12,017 | 00:02:13,849 | - ♪ No direction home ♪ | - ♪ No direction home ♪ |
35 | 00:02:13,850 | 00:02:16,057 | - We've been working quite hard on it. | - We've been working quite hard on it. |
36 | 00:02:16,058 | 00:02:17,349 | We hope you can dig it. | We hope you can dig it. |
37 | 00:02:17,350 | 00:02:19,141 | - ♪ A complete unknown ♪ | - ♪ A complete unknown ♪ |
38 | 00:02:19,142 | 00:02:21,182 | - To describe it any further would be difficult | - To describe it any further would be difficult |
39 | 00:02:21,183 | 00:02:22,765 | without sounding like bullshit. | without sounding like bullshit. |
40 | 00:02:22,766 | 00:02:25,099 | - ♪ Like a rolling stone ♪ | - ♪ Like a rolling stone ♪ |
41 | 00:02:47,641 | 00:02:51,057 | - Jann, in recent years, sophisticated publications | - Jann, in recent years, sophisticated publications |
42 | 00:02:51,058 | 00:02:53,558 | such as yours and FM radio, | such as yours and FM radio, |
43 | 00:02:53,559 | 00:02:56,266 | rock and roll is reaching a different age group. | rock and roll is reaching a different age group. |
44 | 00:02:56,267 | 00:02:58,807 | Now, what's the difference between rock and roll now | Now, what's the difference between rock and roll now |
45 | 00:02:58,808 | 00:03:00,932 | and the rock and roll of the Elvis Presley, | and the rock and roll of the Elvis Presley, |
46 | 00:03:00,933 | 00:03:02,391 | Everly Brothers era? | Everly Brothers era? |
47 | 00:03:02,392 | 00:03:03,890 | - Well, rock and roll is, you know, | - Well, rock and roll is, you know, |
48 | 00:03:03,891 | 00:03:06,182 | is a--is a-- is a particular form | is a--is a-- is a particular form |
49 | 00:03:06,183 | 00:03:08,433 | that's changed tremendously and keeps changing | that's changed tremendously and keeps changing |
50 | 00:03:08,434 | 00:03:11,182 | and vastly changing, making a tremendous amount of changes, | and vastly changing, making a tremendous amount of changes, |
51 | 00:03:11,183 | 00:03:14,640 | and, uh, there was no publication around | and, uh, there was no publication around |
52 | 00:03:14,641 | 00:03:16,474 | that covered it the way it should be covered, | that covered it the way it should be covered, |
53 | 00:03:16,475 | 00:03:18,266 | you know, that had treated it | you know, that had treated it |
54 | 00:03:18,267 | 00:03:19,890 | the way it deserved to be treated, | the way it deserved to be treated, |
55 | 00:03:19,891 | 00:03:22,932 | that, you know, understood it, really. | that, you know, understood it, really. |
56 | 00:03:24,891 | 00:03:26,724 | - Oh, yeah! | - Oh, yeah! |
57 | 00:03:28,600 | 00:03:31,849 | - Jann, is there such thing as a San Francisco sound? | - Jann, is there such thing as a San Francisco sound? |
58 | 00:03:31,850 | 00:03:34,765 | Or is it just that this happened to be the place | Or is it just that this happened to be the place |
59 | 00:03:34,766 | 00:03:37,890 | where acid rock, or whatever it's called, started? | where acid rock, or whatever it's called, started? |
60 | 00:03:37,891 | 00:03:39,599 | - The important thing about San Francisco | - The important thing about San Francisco |
61 | 00:03:39,600 | 00:03:41,099 | is that it's a scene. | is that it's a scene. |
62 | 00:03:41,100 | 00:03:43,099 | It's a warm, supportive, friendly city | It's a warm, supportive, friendly city |
63 | 00:03:43,100 | 00:03:45,016 | that's historically, you know, had the Bohemians, | that's historically, you know, had the Bohemians, |
64 | 00:03:45,017 | 00:03:48,474 | the Beats, that supported the arts, poetry, jazz, | the Beats, that supported the arts, poetry, jazz, |
65 | 00:03:48,475 | 00:03:50,974 | and similarly today it supports rock and roll. | and similarly today it supports rock and roll. |
66 | 00:03:53,683 | 00:03:56,308 | - San Francisco is home to all kinds of artists, | - San Francisco is home to all kinds of artists, |
67 | 00:03:56,309 | 00:03:58,849 | and I loved the excitement of it. | and I loved the excitement of it. |
68 | 00:03:58,850 | 00:04:02,141 | I had tried to do music when I was in college, | I had tried to do music when I was in college, |
69 | 00:04:02,142 | 00:04:05,558 | but I was not good at it particularly. | but I was not good at it particularly. |
70 | 00:04:05,559 | 00:04:07,890 | I mean, I was not a great guitar player, you know. | I mean, I was not a great guitar player, you know. |
71 | 00:04:07,891 | 00:04:09,932 | I mean, I knew the music, and I loved it. | I mean, I knew the music, and I loved it. |
72 | 00:04:09,933 | 00:04:12,849 | I could feel it, but that-- | I could feel it, but that-- |
73 | 00:04:12,850 | 00:04:15,640 | that life was not for me. | that life was not for me. |
74 | 00:04:15,641 | 00:04:18,640 | But what I had as a skill and a natural ability | But what I had as a skill and a natural ability |
75 | 00:04:18,641 | 00:04:20,266 | was journalism. | was journalism. |
76 | 00:04:20,267 | 00:04:23,141 | - ♪ Ooh, ooh, yeah ♪ | - ♪ Ooh, ooh, yeah ♪ |
77 | 00:04:23,142 | 00:04:26,141 | ♪ Ooh, ooh, yeah ♪ | ♪ Ooh, ooh, yeah ♪ |
78 | 00:04:26,142 | 00:04:27,849 | ♪ Ooh, ooh ♪ | ♪ Ooh, ooh ♪ |
79 | 00:04:27,850 | 00:04:30,765 | - ♪ Everybody's dying, everybody is trying ♪ | - ♪ Everybody's dying, everybody is trying ♪ |
80 | 00:04:30,766 | 00:04:33,349 | ♪ To feel more, feel more, feel more, yeah ♪ | ♪ To feel more, feel more, feel more, yeah ♪ |
81 | 00:04:33,350 | 00:04:35,308 | - ♪ Ooh, ooh, yeah ♪ | - ♪ Ooh, ooh, yeah ♪ |
82 | 00:04:35,309 | 00:04:37,558 | - In the '60s, rock and roll was becoming more than ever | - In the '60s, rock and roll was becoming more than ever |
83 | 00:04:37,559 | 00:04:40,682 | the medium of communication among young people. | the medium of communication among young people. |
84 | 00:04:40,683 | 00:04:43,849 | - ♪ Even though you never, then it doesn't mean you never ♪ | - ♪ Even though you never, then it doesn't mean you never ♪ |
85 | 00:04:43,850 | 00:04:46,516 | ♪ So you feel more, you feel more, you feel more ♪ | ♪ So you feel more, you feel more, you feel more ♪ |
86 | 00:04:46,517 | 00:04:50,266 | - It was freeing yourself from this gray vision of life | - It was freeing yourself from this gray vision of life |
87 | 00:04:50,267 | 00:04:52,682 | in America that was parentally shaped | in America that was parentally shaped |
88 | 00:04:52,683 | 00:04:56,224 | and socially shaped by the Eisenhower years. | and socially shaped by the Eisenhower years. |
89 | 00:04:56,225 | 00:04:58,391 | - ♪ Whoa ♪ | - ♪ Whoa ♪ |
90 | 00:04:58,392 | 00:05:00,308 | ♪ Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa ♪ | ♪ Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa ♪ |
91 | 00:05:03,017 | 00:05:05,224 | ♪ Whoa ♪ | ♪ Whoa ♪ |
92 | 00:05:05,225 | 00:05:07,016 | ♪ Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa ♪ | ♪ Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa ♪ |
93 | 00:05:07,017 | 00:05:09,349 | - ♪ Whoa, yeah ♪ - ♪ Yeah, baby ♪ | - ♪ Whoa, yeah ♪ - ♪ Yeah, baby ♪ |
94 | 00:05:09,350 | 00:05:11,057 | ♪ Whoa ♪ | ♪ Whoa ♪ |
95 | 00:05:11,058 | 00:05:13,057 | - Music and the kind of cultural revolution | - Music and the kind of cultural revolution |
96 | 00:05:13,058 | 00:05:14,558 | that was attached to it, | that was attached to it, |
97 | 00:05:14,559 | 00:05:16,349 | that was the big uncovered story. | that was the big uncovered story. |
98 | 00:05:21,350 | 00:05:23,308 | At that time, I was living with the woman | At that time, I was living with the woman |
99 | 00:05:23,309 | 00:05:25,391 | I was gonna marry, Jane, | I was gonna marry, Jane, |
100 | 00:05:25,392 | 00:05:27,724 | and she had that same enthusiasm | and she had that same enthusiasm |
101 | 00:05:27,725 | 00:05:31,141 | for the sheer joy of the music. | for the sheer joy of the music. |
102 | 00:05:31,142 | 00:05:34,391 | Together, we saw it as really important, | Together, we saw it as really important, |
103 | 00:05:34,392 | 00:05:37,682 | spiritually and culturally, you know? | spiritually and culturally, you know? |
104 | 00:05:37,683 | 00:05:40,724 | - We really understood that music | - We really understood that music |
105 | 00:05:40,725 | 00:05:44,224 | was effecting a change in America. | was effecting a change in America. |
106 | 00:05:44,225 | 00:05:46,640 | You could see it and hear it. | You could see it and hear it. |
107 | 00:05:52,267 | 00:05:56,807 | In '67, Jann was going down to cover Monterey Pop. | In '67, Jann was going down to cover Monterey Pop. |
108 | 00:05:56,808 | 00:06:00,599 | This was before we started "Rolling Stone." | This was before we started "Rolling Stone." |
109 | 00:06:00,600 | 00:06:03,474 | He was there one day, and then he called me, and he said, | He was there one day, and then he called me, and he said, |
110 | 00:06:03,475 | 00:06:05,433 | "Jane, you've got to come down here. | "Jane, you've got to come down here. |
111 | 00:06:05,434 | 00:06:08,849 | You will not believe what's happening." | You will not believe what's happening." |
112 | 00:06:12,183 | 00:06:18,308 | - ♪ I see a red door, and I want to paint it black ♪ | - ♪ I see a red door, and I want to paint it black ♪ |
113 | 00:06:18,309 | 00:06:20,391 | ♪ No colors in my life ♪ | ♪ No colors in my life ♪ |
114 | 00:06:20,392 | 00:06:24,099 | ♪ You know they're turning black ♪ | ♪ You know they're turning black ♪ |
115 | 00:06:24,100 | 00:06:26,974 | ♪ I see people walking by ♪ | ♪ I see people walking by ♪ |
116 | 00:06:26,975 | 00:06:30,349 | ♪ Dressed in their colorful clothes ♪ | ♪ Dressed in their colorful clothes ♪ |
117 | 00:06:30,350 | 00:06:33,016 | ♪ I see them strolling by ♪ | ♪ I see them strolling by ♪ |
118 | 00:06:33,017 | 00:06:34,849 | ♪ My happiness just flows ♪ | ♪ My happiness just flows ♪ |
119 | 00:06:34,850 | 00:06:38,599 | - We were so lucky to have that music | - We were so lucky to have that music |
120 | 00:06:38,600 | 00:06:40,308 | at that time. | at that time. |
121 | 00:06:40,309 | 00:06:42,474 | I mean, Monterey was incredible. | I mean, Monterey was incredible. |
122 | 00:06:42,475 | 00:06:44,682 | - ♪ Turn it black, oh, yeah ♪ | - ♪ Turn it black, oh, yeah ♪ |
123 | 00:07:08,142 | 00:07:09,933 | Thank you. | Thank you. |
124 | 00:07:13,517 | 00:07:15,433 | - I had been writing a column | - I had been writing a column |
125 | 00:07:15,434 | 00:07:18,349 | for "The Daily Californian," the student newspaper, | for "The Daily Californian," the student newspaper, |
126 | 00:07:18,350 | 00:07:21,182 | and I wrote it under a pseudonym, Mr. Jones, | and I wrote it under a pseudonym, Mr. Jones, |
127 | 00:07:21,183 | 00:07:23,308 | called "Something Is Happening by Mr. Jones," | called "Something Is Happening by Mr. Jones," |
128 | 00:07:23,309 | 00:07:24,974 | after the Dylan song. | after the Dylan song. |
129 | 00:07:24,975 | 00:07:26,724 | And it was very much in the mold | And it was very much in the mold |
130 | 00:07:26,725 | 00:07:28,890 | of a column that Ralph Gleason was writing | of a column that Ralph Gleason was writing |
131 | 00:07:28,891 | 00:07:31,016 | for the "San Francisco Chronicle." | for the "San Francisco Chronicle." |
132 | 00:07:33,225 | 00:07:35,890 | - This is "Jazz Casual," and I'm Ralph Gleason. | - This is "Jazz Casual," and I'm Ralph Gleason. |
133 | 00:07:35,891 | 00:07:38,807 | John Coltrane, like many of the modern jazz musicians, | John Coltrane, like many of the modern jazz musicians, |
134 | 00:07:38,808 | 00:07:42,682 | feels that the music itself speaks far more fluently | feels that the music itself speaks far more fluently |
135 | 00:07:42,683 | 00:07:44,516 | than any human ever could. | than any human ever could. |
136 | 00:07:44,517 | 00:07:46,391 | I agree with that thoroughly, | I agree with that thoroughly, |
137 | 00:07:46,392 | 00:07:48,724 | and I also endorse the position | and I also endorse the position |
138 | 00:07:48,725 | 00:07:51,266 | that Miles Davis' albums shouldn't have liner notes, | that Miles Davis' albums shouldn't have liner notes, |
139 | 00:07:51,267 | 00:07:52,932 | even when I write them. | even when I write them. |
140 | 00:07:52,933 | 00:07:54,599 | - He was a jazz critic, | - He was a jazz critic, |
141 | 00:07:54,600 | 00:07:56,308 | but he also would write about popular music | but he also would write about popular music |
142 | 00:07:56,309 | 00:07:59,682 | and The Beatles or Dylan and Baez. | and The Beatles or Dylan and Baez. |
143 | 00:07:59,683 | 00:08:01,890 | - ♪ I don't really wanna stop the show ♪ | - ♪ I don't really wanna stop the show ♪ |
144 | 00:08:01,891 | 00:08:03,974 | ♪ But I thought you might like to know ♪ | ♪ But I thought you might like to know ♪ |
145 | 00:08:03,975 | 00:08:05,849 | - His column was the place you could read | - His column was the place you could read |
146 | 00:08:05,850 | 00:08:07,558 | about all these things in your own life, | about all these things in your own life, |
147 | 00:08:07,559 | 00:08:10,141 | which were not in the local press. | which were not in the local press. |
148 | 00:08:10,142 | 00:08:12,099 | - ♪ So let me introduce to you ♪ | - ♪ So let me introduce to you ♪ |
149 | 00:08:12,100 | 00:08:14,682 | ♪ The one and only Billy Shears ♪ | ♪ The one and only Billy Shears ♪ |
150 | 00:08:14,683 | 00:08:18,182 | ♪ And Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band ♪ | ♪ And Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band ♪ |
151 | 00:08:18,183 | 00:08:19,890 | - They used to say about Ralph | - They used to say about Ralph |
152 | 00:08:19,891 | 00:08:21,640 | that he couldn't decide whether he was | that he couldn't decide whether he was |
153 | 00:08:21,641 | 00:08:24,016 | four 12-year-olds or three 16-year-olds. | four 12-year-olds or three 16-year-olds. |
154 | 00:08:24,017 | 00:08:25,558 | And he loved young people, | And he loved young people, |
155 | 00:08:25,559 | 00:08:27,974 | and he loved the excitement of it. | and he loved the excitement of it. |
156 | 00:08:27,975 | 00:08:30,308 | People trying to get a place in the rock and roll scene | People trying to get a place in the rock and roll scene |
157 | 00:08:30,309 | 00:08:32,932 | would come over to him and seek advice. | would come over to him and seek advice. |
158 | 00:08:34,933 | 00:08:37,141 | So I introduced myself to him. | So I introduced myself to him. |
159 | 00:08:37,142 | 00:08:38,599 | He said, "Oh, I know exactly who you are. | He said, "Oh, I know exactly who you are. |
160 | 00:08:38,600 | 00:08:40,474 | I read your column." | I read your column." |
161 | 00:08:40,475 | 00:08:42,433 | And that was just the beginning of it right there. | And that was just the beginning of it right there. |
162 | 00:08:42,434 | 00:08:45,807 | - ♪ What would you think if I sang out of tune? ♪ | - ♪ What would you think if I sang out of tune? ♪ |
163 | 00:08:45,808 | 00:08:49,932 | ♪ Would you stand up and walk out on me? ♪ | ♪ Would you stand up and walk out on me? ♪ |
164 | 00:08:49,933 | 00:08:52,807 | - He alone among the critical establishment | - He alone among the critical establishment |
165 | 00:08:52,808 | 00:08:54,599 | was receptive to rock and roll | was receptive to rock and roll |
166 | 00:08:54,600 | 00:08:56,391 | and saw how good a music it was, | and saw how good a music it was, |
167 | 00:08:56,392 | 00:08:58,516 | how good songwriters these were. | how good songwriters these were. |
168 | 00:08:58,517 | 00:09:02,433 | - ♪ Oh, I get by with a little help from my friends ♪ | - ♪ Oh, I get by with a little help from my friends ♪ |
169 | 00:09:02,434 | 00:09:04,099 | ♪ Mm, I get high... ♪ | ♪ Mm, I get high... ♪ |
170 | 00:09:04,100 | 00:09:05,807 | - We knew that Ralph was the best person | - We knew that Ralph was the best person |
171 | 00:09:05,808 | 00:09:07,932 | to be starting "Rolling Stone" with. | to be starting "Rolling Stone" with. |
172 | 00:09:07,933 | 00:09:12,932 | - ♪ Mm, gonna try with a little help from my friends ♪ | - ♪ Mm, gonna try with a little help from my friends ♪ |
173 | 00:09:12,933 | 00:09:14,433 | - Jann came over one day and said, | - Jann came over one day and said, |
174 | 00:09:14,434 | 00:09:15,974 | "How about a magazine?" | "How about a magazine?" |
175 | 00:09:15,975 | 00:09:19,224 | Like the "Melody Maker" or "New Musical Express" | Like the "Melody Maker" or "New Musical Express" |
176 | 00:09:19,225 | 00:09:21,516 | but an American one that would be different and better, | but an American one that would be different and better, |
177 | 00:09:21,517 | 00:09:24,974 | that would cover not just, uh, not just the records | that would cover not just, uh, not just the records |
178 | 00:09:24,975 | 00:09:29,474 | and the music but would cover the whole culture. | and the music but would cover the whole culture. |
179 | 00:09:29,475 | 00:09:32,474 | I find it regrettable and sad | I find it regrettable and sad |
180 | 00:09:32,475 | 00:09:36,308 | that some of my friends do not share my enjoyment | that some of my friends do not share my enjoyment |
181 | 00:09:36,309 | 00:09:39,349 | for the contemporary musicians, | for the contemporary musicians, |
182 | 00:09:39,350 | 00:09:41,182 | much less regard them | much less regard them |
183 | 00:09:41,183 | 00:09:42,932 | with the respect with which I regard them | with the respect with which I regard them |
184 | 00:09:42,933 | 00:09:46,224 | or see them as important as I see them. | or see them as important as I see them. |
185 | 00:09:46,225 | 00:09:48,640 | The only way to stay alive is to stay open. | The only way to stay alive is to stay open. |
186 | 00:09:48,641 | 00:09:50,391 | The minute you shut yourself off | The minute you shut yourself off |
187 | 00:09:50,392 | 00:09:52,682 | and shut yourself up, you start to rot. | and shut yourself up, you start to rot. |
188 | 00:09:52,683 | 00:09:55,599 | You die of dry rot. | You die of dry rot. |
189 | 00:09:55,600 | 00:09:57,974 | "Rolling Stone" started with the assumption | "Rolling Stone" started with the assumption |
190 | 00:09:57,975 | 00:10:01,516 | that music was of infinitely greater importance | that music was of infinitely greater importance |
191 | 00:10:01,517 | 00:10:04,474 | to an upcoming generation of Americans | to an upcoming generation of Americans |
192 | 00:10:04,475 | 00:10:06,724 | than anyone had ever thought it was before, | than anyone had ever thought it was before, |
193 | 00:10:06,725 | 00:10:08,391 | and we were right. | and we were right. |
194 | 00:10:13,267 | 00:10:16,807 | - ♪ Once upon a time, you dressed so fine ♪ | - ♪ Once upon a time, you dressed so fine ♪ |
195 | 00:10:16,808 | 00:10:21,057 | ♪ Threw the bums a dime in your prime ♪ | ♪ Threw the bums a dime in your prime ♪ |
196 | 00:10:21,058 | 00:10:22,890 | ♪ Didn't you? ♪ | ♪ Didn't you? ♪ |
197 | 00:10:22,891 | 00:10:25,057 | - We were in a printer's building in San Francisco, | - We were in a printer's building in San Francisco, |
198 | 00:10:25,058 | 00:10:26,724 | south of Market, | south of Market, |
199 | 00:10:26,725 | 00:10:30,182 | which then was really just kind of warehouses. | which then was really just kind of warehouses. |
200 | 00:10:30,183 | 00:10:32,474 | Rent was free 'cause we got | Rent was free 'cause we got |
201 | 00:10:32,475 | 00:10:34,349 | the printer to give us some free space. | the printer to give us some free space. |
202 | 00:10:34,350 | 00:10:38,099 | We rented some typewriters and rented some tables. | We rented some typewriters and rented some tables. |
203 | 00:10:38,100 | 00:10:41,099 | - We were looking for $7,500. | - We were looking for $7,500. |
204 | 00:10:41,100 | 00:10:44,724 | So I asked my mother for $2,000. | So I asked my mother for $2,000. |
205 | 00:10:44,725 | 00:10:48,599 | Jann raised some, and we started "Rolling Stone." | Jann raised some, and we started "Rolling Stone." |
206 | 00:10:48,600 | 00:10:53,017 | And I'll say "we," because we did. | And I'll say "we," because we did. |
207 | 00:10:59,641 | 00:11:02,016 | - Well, we felt a great, uh-- | - Well, we felt a great, uh-- |
208 | 00:11:02,017 | 00:11:04,890 | a great historic responsibility | a great historic responsibility |
209 | 00:11:04,891 | 00:11:06,974 | on behalf of the American public. | on behalf of the American public. |
210 | 00:11:06,975 | 00:11:09,724 | Well, you know, no, jeez-- | Well, you know, no, jeez-- |
211 | 00:11:09,725 | 00:11:12,724 | That isn't what happened. | That isn't what happened. |
212 | 00:11:12,725 | 00:11:15,057 | - It was really Ralph and myself and Jane. | - It was really Ralph and myself and Jane. |
213 | 00:11:15,058 | 00:11:18,890 | We'd meet and, uh, discuss this thing and what to do. | We'd meet and, uh, discuss this thing and what to do. |
214 | 00:11:21,225 | 00:11:23,640 | The first issue, we had John Lennon on the cover | The first issue, we had John Lennon on the cover |
215 | 00:11:23,641 | 00:11:25,433 | and an interview with Donovan | and an interview with Donovan |
216 | 00:11:25,434 | 00:11:27,016 | and then a big two-page spread | and then a big two-page spread |
217 | 00:11:27,017 | 00:11:28,682 | on the Grateful Dead getting busted, | on the Grateful Dead getting busted, |
218 | 00:11:28,683 | 00:11:31,807 | which was a little story that I wrote. | which was a little story that I wrote. |
219 | 00:11:31,808 | 00:11:34,016 | We went over and took these pictures of the Dead | We went over and took these pictures of the Dead |
220 | 00:11:34,017 | 00:11:38,182 | standing on the stoop of their house over in Haight-Ashbury. | standing on the stoop of their house over in Haight-Ashbury. |
221 | 00:11:38,183 | 00:11:40,724 | All, you know, at the top of the stairs, | All, you know, at the top of the stairs, |
222 | 00:11:40,725 | 00:11:42,599 | you know, with their fists up, raised, | you know, with their fists up, raised, |
223 | 00:11:42,600 | 00:11:44,682 | and I think it was Pigpen that had some pistols, | and I think it was Pigpen that had some pistols, |
224 | 00:11:44,683 | 00:11:47,266 | and Phil Lesh was carrying a rifle and all that stuff. | and Phil Lesh was carrying a rifle and all that stuff. |
225 | 00:11:47,267 | 00:11:51,266 | And defiant, "We will not be moved," you know? | And defiant, "We will not be moved," you know? |
226 | 00:11:51,267 | 00:11:53,932 | We nearly went bankrupt shipping out that issue. | We nearly went bankrupt shipping out that issue. |
227 | 00:11:53,933 | 00:11:56,057 | And all of a sudden, all the bills came in, | And all of a sudden, all the bills came in, |
228 | 00:11:56,058 | 00:11:57,932 | and we had to-- "Oh, God, we don't have | and we had to-- "Oh, God, we don't have |
229 | 00:11:57,933 | 00:11:59,807 | enough money for that." | enough money for that." |
230 | 00:12:02,725 | 00:12:04,474 | - I bought the first issue. | - I bought the first issue. |
231 | 00:12:04,475 | 00:12:06,266 | I had no idea that the magazine | I had no idea that the magazine |
232 | 00:12:06,267 | 00:12:08,141 | consisted of about three people. | consisted of about three people. |
233 | 00:12:08,142 | 00:12:09,974 | It looked like a very professional operation. | It looked like a very professional operation. |
234 | 00:12:09,975 | 00:12:11,640 | I volunteered to be a proofreader. | I volunteered to be a proofreader. |
235 | 00:12:11,641 | 00:12:13,308 | I told them I was a proofreader. | I told them I was a proofreader. |
236 | 00:12:13,309 | 00:12:15,057 | I had never read proof in my life. | I had never read proof in my life. |
237 | 00:12:15,058 | 00:12:18,640 | And so I was the first unpaid employee. | And so I was the first unpaid employee. |
238 | 00:12:18,641 | 00:12:20,266 | I tell you, my qualifications | I tell you, my qualifications |
239 | 00:12:20,267 | 00:12:22,266 | were a degree in Near Eastern languages, | were a degree in Near Eastern languages, |
240 | 00:12:22,267 | 00:12:24,807 | three years' experience as an animal caretaker, | three years' experience as an animal caretaker, |
241 | 00:12:24,808 | 00:12:26,474 | and I was willing to work for free. | and I was willing to work for free. |
242 | 00:12:29,017 | 00:12:31,141 | - Now, Charlie was a volunteer, | - Now, Charlie was a volunteer, |
243 | 00:12:31,142 | 00:12:32,640 | but he had a paying job, | but he had a paying job, |
244 | 00:12:32,641 | 00:12:34,308 | which was to be an assistant zookeeper | which was to be an assistant zookeeper |
245 | 00:12:34,309 | 00:12:35,849 | at the San Francisco Zoo. | at the San Francisco Zoo. |
246 | 00:12:35,850 | 00:12:38,224 | And he said, "I can't do both." | And he said, "I can't do both." |
247 | 00:12:38,225 | 00:12:40,807 | We agreed that he would get $25 a week. | We agreed that he would get $25 a week. |
248 | 00:12:40,808 | 00:12:43,640 | And he was the first actual, real true employee | And he was the first actual, real true employee |
249 | 00:12:43,641 | 00:12:45,141 | of "Rolling Stone." | of "Rolling Stone." |
250 | 00:12:45,142 | 00:12:46,890 | - I was known at one time | - I was known at one time |
251 | 00:12:46,891 | 00:12:49,308 | for excessive consumption of marijuana. | for excessive consumption of marijuana. |
252 | 00:12:49,309 | 00:12:50,682 | When I went to "Rolling Stone," | When I went to "Rolling Stone," |
253 | 00:12:50,683 | 00:12:52,016 | I found I couldn't use drugs. | I found I couldn't use drugs. |
254 | 00:12:52,017 | 00:12:53,599 | I wanted to write, | I wanted to write, |
255 | 00:12:53,600 | 00:12:55,391 | and I could write reams when I was stoned, | and I could write reams when I was stoned, |
256 | 00:12:55,392 | 00:12:57,807 | but none of it made any sense. | but none of it made any sense. |
257 | 00:12:57,808 | 00:12:59,849 | In those days, we were not well known | In those days, we were not well known |
258 | 00:12:59,850 | 00:13:01,308 | outside San Francisco. | outside San Francisco. |
259 | 00:13:01,309 | 00:13:03,016 | "Rolling Stone" was thought of | "Rolling Stone" was thought of |
260 | 00:13:03,017 | 00:13:05,558 | as particularly a magazine for musicians. | as particularly a magazine for musicians. |
261 | 00:13:05,559 | 00:13:08,558 | And we had to struggle with our distributor | And we had to struggle with our distributor |
262 | 00:13:08,559 | 00:13:12,141 | to get us put on newsstands near recording studios. | to get us put on newsstands near recording studios. |
263 | 00:13:12,142 | 00:13:13,807 | For many years, we had a musician's | For many years, we had a musician's |
264 | 00:13:13,808 | 00:13:15,765 | free classified column for bands | free classified column for bands |
265 | 00:13:15,766 | 00:13:18,016 | that were looking for a drummer. | that were looking for a drummer. |
266 | 00:13:18,017 | 00:13:20,849 | But Jann always had a vision of it as being more | But Jann always had a vision of it as being more |
267 | 00:13:20,850 | 00:13:23,682 | than just about rock and roll itself. | than just about rock and roll itself. |
268 | 00:13:23,683 | 00:13:26,474 | He had an idea that there was a rock culture, | He had an idea that there was a rock culture, |
269 | 00:13:26,475 | 00:13:28,308 | all sorts of generational things | all sorts of generational things |
270 | 00:13:28,309 | 00:13:30,807 | that would be of interest. | that would be of interest. |
271 | 00:13:38,891 | 00:13:40,349 | - I think there's various things. | - I think there's various things. |
272 | 00:13:40,350 | 00:13:42,224 | I think the basic thing is that-- | I think the basic thing is that-- |
273 | 00:13:42,225 | 00:13:44,057 | is what people have always found fascinating about youth, | is what people have always found fascinating about youth, |
274 | 00:13:44,058 | 00:13:46,474 | you know, and young-- young things | you know, and young-- young things |
275 | 00:13:46,475 | 00:13:48,682 | and young people and new ideas | and young people and new ideas |
276 | 00:13:48,683 | 00:13:51,724 | and, you know, that period of life | and, you know, that period of life |
277 | 00:13:51,725 | 00:13:53,433 | which is associated with being most alive | which is associated with being most alive |
278 | 00:13:53,434 | 00:13:55,807 | and most experimental and the most, you know, | and most experimental and the most, you know, |
279 | 00:13:55,808 | 00:13:57,099 | sort of carefree. | sort of carefree. |
280 | 00:13:59,058 | 00:14:01,807 | It was important that "Rolling Stone" have a sense | It was important that "Rolling Stone" have a sense |
281 | 00:14:01,808 | 00:14:05,974 | of style and sex appeal of the youth culture. | of style and sex appeal of the youth culture. |
282 | 00:14:07,641 | 00:14:09,765 | I met a guy named Baron Wolman, | I met a guy named Baron Wolman, |
283 | 00:14:09,766 | 00:14:13,558 | and Baron had training as kind of a portrait photographer. | and Baron had training as kind of a portrait photographer. |
284 | 00:14:13,559 | 00:14:15,182 | Baron came up with the idea | Baron came up with the idea |
285 | 00:14:15,183 | 00:14:17,391 | to do a special issue on the groupies. | to do a special issue on the groupies. |
286 | 00:14:17,392 | 00:14:21,682 | - ♪ There'll be a feast if you just come upstairs, but... ♪ | - ♪ There'll be a feast if you just come upstairs, but... ♪ |
287 | 00:14:21,683 | 00:14:24,266 | - I would go backstage and hang out with the bands, | - I would go backstage and hang out with the bands, |
288 | 00:14:24,267 | 00:14:26,391 | and I saw these women back there | and I saw these women back there |
289 | 00:14:26,392 | 00:14:29,224 | with style and with self-assurance. | with style and with self-assurance. |
290 | 00:14:29,225 | 00:14:31,474 | You know, nobody was going to tell them what to do. | You know, nobody was going to tell them what to do. |
291 | 00:14:31,475 | 00:14:35,807 | - ♪ I can see that you're 15 years old ♪ | - ♪ I can see that you're 15 years old ♪ |
292 | 00:14:35,808 | 00:14:38,599 | ♪ No, I don't want your ID ♪ | ♪ No, I don't want your ID ♪ |
293 | 00:14:38,600 | 00:14:41,266 | - Within a certain subculture in San Francisco, | - Within a certain subculture in San Francisco, |
294 | 00:14:41,267 | 00:14:43,349 | rock is the basic art form. | rock is the basic art form. |
295 | 00:14:43,350 | 00:14:45,765 | The musicians are the high priests of the community, | The musicians are the high priests of the community, |
296 | 00:14:45,766 | 00:14:48,224 | and all activities revolve around the bands. | and all activities revolve around the bands. |
297 | 00:14:48,225 | 00:14:50,890 | Now, sex is no big deal within the community. | Now, sex is no big deal within the community. |
298 | 00:14:50,891 | 00:14:53,682 | It's just part of the whole sharing process. | It's just part of the whole sharing process. |
299 | 00:14:53,683 | 00:14:57,391 | They share food, houses, drugs, money, and sex. | They share food, houses, drugs, money, and sex. |
300 | 00:14:57,392 | 00:14:59,599 | - ♪ You're a stray, stray cat, I bet ♪ | - ♪ You're a stray, stray cat, I bet ♪ |
301 | 00:14:59,600 | 00:15:04,349 | ♪ Bet your mama don't know you scream like that ♪ | ♪ Bet your mama don't know you scream like that ♪ |
302 | 00:15:04,350 | 00:15:09,807 | ♪ I bet your mama don't know you can spread like that ♪ | ♪ I bet your mama don't know you can spread like that ♪ |
303 | 00:15:09,808 | 00:15:11,474 | - You get to fuck the prettiest boys. | - You get to fuck the prettiest boys. |
304 | 00:15:11,475 | 00:15:13,308 | You get to smoke the best dope. | You get to smoke the best dope. |
305 | 00:15:13,309 | 00:15:16,890 | You, um--you get to meet all the most far-out people. | You, um--you get to meet all the most far-out people. |
306 | 00:15:16,891 | 00:15:18,640 | - They dress the way I want all guys to dress. | - They dress the way I want all guys to dress. |
307 | 00:15:18,641 | 00:15:19,932 | They have long hair. | They have long hair. |
308 | 00:15:19,933 | 00:15:21,599 | They talk with a British accent. | They talk with a British accent. |
309 | 00:15:21,600 | 00:15:23,599 | - "There are two kinds of groupies," | - "There are two kinds of groupies," |
310 | 00:15:23,600 | 00:15:26,308 | notes veteran trouper, guitarist Jimmy Page. | notes veteran trouper, guitarist Jimmy Page. |
311 | 00:15:26,309 | 00:15:29,433 | "Those who are like friends, like San Francisco girls, | "Those who are like friends, like San Francisco girls, |
312 | 00:15:29,434 | 00:15:31,433 | "and those Los Angeles and New York girls, | "and those Los Angeles and New York girls, |
313 | 00:15:31,434 | 00:15:33,141 | "who are making a religion | "who are making a religion |
314 | 00:15:33,142 | 00:15:34,974 | "out of how many pop stars they can fuck. | "out of how many pop stars they can fuck. |
315 | 00:15:34,975 | 00:15:37,224 | "Groupies are a better ball, by and large. | "Groupies are a better ball, by and large. |
316 | 00:15:37,225 | 00:15:38,974 | "They've had more experience, | "They've had more experience, |
317 | 00:15:38,975 | 00:15:40,535 | and they're willing to try more things." | and they're willing to try more things." |
318 | 00:16:00,891 | 00:16:04,433 | - ♪ White bird ♪ | - ♪ White bird ♪ |
319 | 00:16:04,434 | 00:16:08,224 | ♪ In a golden cage ♪ | ♪ In a golden cage ♪ |
320 | 00:16:08,225 | 00:16:10,308 | - Sally Mann lives with Jefferson Airplane | - Sally Mann lives with Jefferson Airplane |
321 | 00:16:10,309 | 00:16:13,558 | at their spacious, Victorian San Francisco mansion. | at their spacious, Victorian San Francisco mansion. |
322 | 00:16:13,559 | 00:16:15,849 | She serves as housemother, preparing meals, | She serves as housemother, preparing meals, |
323 | 00:16:15,850 | 00:16:18,266 | washing the dishes, screening unwanted visitors, | washing the dishes, screening unwanted visitors, |
324 | 00:16:18,267 | 00:16:21,349 | and a host of other chores for which she is paid nothing | and a host of other chores for which she is paid nothing |
325 | 00:16:21,350 | 00:16:23,765 | except the gratitude of the Airplane. | except the gratitude of the Airplane. |
326 | 00:16:23,766 | 00:16:27,974 | - Jack, show me your cock again, please. | - Jack, show me your cock again, please. |
327 | 00:16:27,975 | 00:16:30,599 | Please, one more time. Come on! | Please, one more time. Come on! |
328 | 00:16:30,600 | 00:16:33,057 | - No. - Jack, one-- | - No. - Jack, one-- |
329 | 00:16:33,058 | 00:16:34,640 | You had to be there. | You had to be there. |
330 | 00:16:34,641 | 00:16:36,640 | I don't mean that to understand it, | I don't mean that to understand it, |
331 | 00:16:36,641 | 00:16:38,558 | you had to be there. | you had to be there. |
332 | 00:16:38,559 | 00:16:42,349 | I'm saying if you felt it, you had to be where it was. | I'm saying if you felt it, you had to be where it was. |
333 | 00:16:42,350 | 00:16:44,182 | Oh, look. | Oh, look. |
334 | 00:16:44,183 | 00:16:46,349 | Look--look, you can see him in action. | Look--look, you can see him in action. |
335 | 00:16:46,350 | 00:16:48,391 | This is how he looks when he's playing. | This is how he looks when he's playing. |
336 | 00:16:48,392 | 00:16:50,224 | Oh, isn't it far out? | Oh, isn't it far out? |
337 | 00:16:50,225 | 00:16:52,640 | There was no way on the planet | There was no way on the planet |
338 | 00:16:52,641 | 00:16:54,640 | I could have stayed in Houston, Texas, | I could have stayed in Houston, Texas, |
339 | 00:16:54,641 | 00:16:57,724 | when the music was being made out in California. | when the music was being made out in California. |
340 | 00:16:57,725 | 00:16:59,182 | I had to be there. | I had to be there. |
341 | 00:16:59,183 | 00:17:00,433 | Pull the pubes out of the way, | Pull the pubes out of the way, |
342 | 00:17:00,434 | 00:17:01,974 | and let's light you a joint up. | and let's light you a joint up. |
343 | 00:17:01,975 | 00:17:03,599 | You could be crazy about Elvis, | You could be crazy about Elvis, |
344 | 00:17:03,600 | 00:17:05,391 | but you weren't walking up and down | but you weren't walking up and down |
345 | 00:17:05,392 | 00:17:08,057 | the streets of Memphis in a movement of people | the streets of Memphis in a movement of people |
346 | 00:17:08,058 | 00:17:10,182 | who all felt the same way. | who all felt the same way. |
347 | 00:17:10,183 | 00:17:12,849 | Need it, need it. | Need it, need it. |
348 | 00:17:12,850 | 00:17:14,932 | - Groupies are hardly a new phenomenon, | - Groupies are hardly a new phenomenon, |
349 | 00:17:14,933 | 00:17:17,433 | and they are not new to the rock and roll scene either. | and they are not new to the rock and roll scene either. |
350 | 00:17:17,434 | 00:17:20,932 | But as the scene changes, so do the girls. | But as the scene changes, so do the girls. |
351 | 00:17:26,808 | 00:17:29,890 | Cynthia, age 21, and Diane, age 17, | Cynthia, age 21, and Diane, age 17, |
352 | 00:17:29,891 | 00:17:31,765 | took a cab to the Chicago Opera House | took a cab to the Chicago Opera House |
353 | 00:17:31,766 | 00:17:33,558 | where they waited | where they waited |
354 | 00:17:33,559 | 00:17:35,558 | for one of the rock and roll attractions to appear. | for one of the rock and roll attractions to appear. |
355 | 00:17:35,559 | 00:17:38,099 | If he was agreeable, they would all go to his room, | If he was agreeable, they would all go to his room, |
356 | 00:17:38,100 | 00:17:40,141 | and this popular lead guitarist | and this popular lead guitarist |
357 | 00:17:40,142 | 00:17:44,765 | would become Number 00004 in the Plaster Casters' diary. | would become Number 00004 in the Plaster Casters' diary. |
358 | 00:17:44,766 | 00:17:47,932 | - In art class, we started doing plaster casting. | - In art class, we started doing plaster casting. |
359 | 00:17:47,933 | 00:17:50,433 | One day the teacher said you could plaster cast | One day the teacher said you could plaster cast |
360 | 00:17:50,434 | 00:17:52,682 | almost anything that's solid. | almost anything that's solid. |
361 | 00:17:52,683 | 00:17:55,640 | In fact, bring in any old object from home, | In fact, bring in any old object from home, |
362 | 00:17:55,641 | 00:17:57,308 | tomorrow we'll make a cast of it. | tomorrow we'll make a cast of it. |
363 | 00:17:57,309 | 00:17:59,807 | And I thought... | And I thought... |
364 | 00:17:59,808 | 00:18:02,599 | - ♪ Having hard times ♪ | - ♪ Having hard times ♪ |
365 | 00:18:02,600 | 00:18:04,765 | ♪ In this crazy town ♪ | ♪ In this crazy town ♪ |
366 | 00:18:04,766 | 00:18:06,308 | ♪ Having hard times ♪ | ♪ Having hard times ♪ |
367 | 00:18:06,309 | 00:18:07,765 | - In the Plaster Casters' diary, | - In the Plaster Casters' diary, |
368 | 00:18:07,766 | 00:18:09,807 | a penis is called a "rig," | a penis is called a "rig," |
369 | 00:18:09,808 | 00:18:11,807 | fellatio is called "plating," | fellatio is called "plating," |
370 | 00:18:11,808 | 00:18:14,474 | and a fellator is called a "plater." | and a fellator is called a "plater." |
371 | 00:18:14,475 | 00:18:16,682 | Masturbation is called "banking" | Masturbation is called "banking" |
372 | 00:18:16,683 | 00:18:20,807 | and a masturbator is called a "Barclay's Banker." | and a masturbator is called a "Barclay's Banker." |
373 | 00:18:20,808 | 00:18:22,765 | - ♪ Having hard times ♪ | - ♪ Having hard times ♪ |
374 | 00:18:22,766 | 00:18:25,807 | - Cynthia asked me, you know, if--at that time, | - Cynthia asked me, you know, if--at that time, |
375 | 00:18:25,808 | 00:18:28,016 | if I'd like to be a plaster caster. | if I'd like to be a plaster caster. |
376 | 00:18:28,017 | 00:18:29,974 | I became her plater. | I became her plater. |
377 | 00:18:29,975 | 00:18:33,349 | She called me the head plaster caster because I gave the head. | She called me the head plaster caster because I gave the head. |
378 | 00:18:33,350 | 00:18:35,308 | And she was the master plaster caster | And she was the master plaster caster |
379 | 00:18:35,309 | 00:18:37,849 | because she's the originator of the idea. | because she's the originator of the idea. |
380 | 00:18:37,850 | 00:18:39,433 | - While you're lying there, | - While you're lying there, |
381 | 00:18:39,434 | 00:18:42,016 | I'd like you to close your eyes. | I'd like you to close your eyes. |
382 | 00:18:42,017 | 00:18:45,349 | And I'd like you to think that this is a sexual experience. | And I'd like you to think that this is a sexual experience. |
383 | 00:18:45,350 | 00:18:49,099 | Just relax and use your imagination. | Just relax and use your imagination. |
384 | 00:18:49,100 | 00:18:51,224 | Don't necessarily think of the reality of what's happening, | Don't necessarily think of the reality of what's happening, |
385 | 00:18:51,225 | 00:18:54,932 | but think of what you'd like to be happening. | but think of what you'd like to be happening. |
386 | 00:18:54,933 | 00:18:59,016 | We'll get along fine. | We'll get along fine. |
387 | 00:18:59,017 | 00:19:00,807 | - ♪ And I'm sick and tired ♪ | - ♪ And I'm sick and tired ♪ |
388 | 00:19:00,808 | 00:19:04,807 | ♪ Of having so many hard, hard times baby ♪ | ♪ Of having so many hard, hard times baby ♪ |
389 | 00:19:04,808 | 00:19:07,057 | ♪ And from my party house... ♪ | ♪ And from my party house... ♪ |
390 | 00:19:07,058 | 00:19:09,890 | - We had an ad for the groupie issue that said, | - We had an ad for the groupie issue that said, |
391 | 00:19:09,891 | 00:19:11,224 | "When we tell you about a groupie, | "When we tell you about a groupie, |
392 | 00:19:11,225 | 00:19:13,057 | will you really understand?" | will you really understand?" |
393 | 00:19:13,058 | 00:19:14,890 | And we were saying, "Hey, we got the goods. | And we were saying, "Hey, we got the goods. |
394 | 00:19:14,891 | 00:19:16,474 | "You want to know what's really happening? | "You want to know what's really happening? |
395 | 00:19:16,475 | 00:19:18,266 | Listen to us." | Listen to us." |
396 | 00:19:18,267 | 00:19:22,099 | - This was just complete shock to everybody, you know? | - This was just complete shock to everybody, you know? |
397 | 00:19:22,100 | 00:19:23,682 | The fact that rock and roll | The fact that rock and roll |
398 | 00:19:23,683 | 00:19:25,057 | and the culture of rock and roll | and the culture of rock and roll |
399 | 00:19:25,058 | 00:19:28,266 | had this world underneath it. | had this world underneath it. |
400 | 00:19:28,267 | 00:19:32,058 | It was the generation gap starting to be writ large. | It was the generation gap starting to be writ large. |
401 | 00:19:33,933 | 00:19:35,682 | - Jann had a particular view | - Jann had a particular view |
402 | 00:19:35,683 | 00:19:38,516 | of what he wanted "Rolling Stone" to be. | of what he wanted "Rolling Stone" to be. |
403 | 00:19:38,517 | 00:19:41,182 | He was always thinking way down the road, | He was always thinking way down the road, |
404 | 00:19:41,183 | 00:19:42,974 | ahead of himself, and maybe ahead | ahead of himself, and maybe ahead |
405 | 00:19:42,975 | 00:19:45,599 | of the generation, to a certain extent. | of the generation, to a certain extent. |
406 | 00:19:45,600 | 00:19:48,391 | At "Rolling Stone" we were pretty much around the clock, | At "Rolling Stone" we were pretty much around the clock, |
407 | 00:19:48,392 | 00:19:50,599 | living, breathing, writing rock and roll. | living, breathing, writing rock and roll. |
408 | 00:19:50,600 | 00:19:51,890 | - And did you like it? | - And did you like it? |
409 | 00:19:51,891 | 00:19:53,682 | - Nah, hated it. Hated it. | - Nah, hated it. Hated it. |
410 | 00:19:58,517 | 00:20:01,224 | When Jann hired me, he probably saw me | When Jann hired me, he probably saw me |
411 | 00:20:01,225 | 00:20:04,266 | as a fairly straight person. | as a fairly straight person. |
412 | 00:20:04,267 | 00:20:06,765 | Having come out of college for about a year | Having come out of college for about a year |
413 | 00:20:06,766 | 00:20:09,890 | and having some journalism experience | and having some journalism experience |
414 | 00:20:09,891 | 00:20:12,099 | as well as having a pretty decent knowledge | as well as having a pretty decent knowledge |
415 | 00:20:12,100 | 00:20:14,599 | of the pop music scene in general | of the pop music scene in general |
416 | 00:20:14,600 | 00:20:17,349 | and wanting to apply journalism to it. | and wanting to apply journalism to it. |
417 | 00:20:17,350 | 00:20:19,266 | - ♪ Get on the good foot ♪ | - ♪ Get on the good foot ♪ |
418 | 00:20:21,434 | 00:20:24,516 | - So he saw a person who came in not just off the street, | - So he saw a person who came in not just off the street, |
419 | 00:20:24,517 | 00:20:26,974 | being a rock and roll fan, being a longhaired hippie, | being a rock and roll fan, being a longhaired hippie, |
420 | 00:20:26,975 | 00:20:29,640 | but a guy who could bring a modicum | but a guy who could bring a modicum |
421 | 00:20:29,641 | 00:20:31,807 | of professional journalism background | of professional journalism background |
422 | 00:20:31,808 | 00:20:33,890 | to what he was trying to do. | to what he was trying to do. |
423 | 00:20:36,475 | 00:20:39,974 | We would sit at our typewriters and get stoned. | We would sit at our typewriters and get stoned. |
424 | 00:20:39,975 | 00:20:42,807 | No, we would sit at our typewriters and just think, | No, we would sit at our typewriters and just think, |
425 | 00:20:42,808 | 00:20:44,765 | "Let's see, oh, that could be fun," | "Let's see, oh, that could be fun," |
426 | 00:20:44,766 | 00:20:47,224 | and then just start something. | and then just start something. |
427 | 00:20:47,225 | 00:20:51,224 | It could be a description of a guy sifting cocaine. | It could be a description of a guy sifting cocaine. |
428 | 00:20:51,225 | 00:20:56,308 | It could be you heading to interview the Jackson Five. | It could be you heading to interview the Jackson Five. |
429 | 00:20:56,309 | 00:20:58,099 | It could be a description | It could be a description |
430 | 00:20:58,100 | 00:21:01,474 | of a living room as with Ike and Tina Turner. | of a living room as with Ike and Tina Turner. |
431 | 00:21:01,475 | 00:21:03,266 | That becomes the lead. | That becomes the lead. |
432 | 00:21:03,267 | 00:21:05,057 | - Walk into what, from the outside, | - Walk into what, from the outside, |
433 | 00:21:05,058 | 00:21:06,974 | looks to be another well-paid, | looks to be another well-paid, |
434 | 00:21:06,975 | 00:21:09,516 | well-kept home in suburban Inglewood, California, | well-kept home in suburban Inglewood, California, |
435 | 00:21:09,517 | 00:21:11,474 | and you're hit... | and you're hit... |
436 | 00:21:11,475 | 00:21:14,516 | a huge imperial oil painting of Ike and Tina Turner | a huge imperial oil painting of Ike and Tina Turner |
437 | 00:21:14,517 | 00:21:18,682 | dressed as if for a simple, private wedding circa 1960. | dressed as if for a simple, private wedding circa 1960. |
438 | 00:21:18,683 | 00:21:21,099 | Also in the foyer, under the portrait, | Also in the foyer, under the portrait, |
439 | 00:21:21,100 | 00:21:23,516 | a small white bust of John F. Kennedy. | a small white bust of John F. Kennedy. |
440 | 00:21:23,517 | 00:21:26,349 | Next to him, the Bible. | Next to him, the Bible. |
441 | 00:21:26,350 | 00:21:27,932 | Over in the family room, | Over in the family room, |
442 | 00:21:27,933 | 00:21:30,141 | splashing programmed, is a waterfall. | splashing programmed, is a waterfall. |
443 | 00:21:30,142 | 00:21:33,224 | There's a red velvet sofa designed around a coffee table | There's a red velvet sofa designed around a coffee table |
444 | 00:21:33,225 | 00:21:35,765 | in the shape of a bass guitar. | in the shape of a bass guitar. |
445 | 00:21:35,766 | 00:21:39,183 | Tina's not back, half an hour late. | Tina's not back, half an hour late. |
446 | 00:21:42,517 | 00:21:44,890 | - Tina being late showing up, | - Tina being late showing up, |
447 | 00:21:44,891 | 00:21:46,433 | that was nothing, no big deal. | that was nothing, no big deal. |
448 | 00:21:46,434 | 00:21:48,516 | You're often kept waiting, | You're often kept waiting, |
449 | 00:21:48,517 | 00:21:51,682 | except that it wasn't like there was a publicist | except that it wasn't like there was a publicist |
450 | 00:21:51,683 | 00:21:54,890 | or a manager or an agent or somebody. | or a manager or an agent or somebody. |
451 | 00:21:54,891 | 00:21:58,182 | I think there were a couple housekeepers maybe around | I think there were a couple housekeepers maybe around |
452 | 00:21:58,183 | 00:22:01,182 | and her family. | and her family. |
453 | 00:22:01,183 | 00:22:02,890 | I just sat there, | I just sat there, |
454 | 00:22:02,891 | 00:22:04,724 | and oftentimes you take those challenges | and oftentimes you take those challenges |
455 | 00:22:04,725 | 00:22:06,516 | and just do what you can with them. | and just do what you can with them. |
456 | 00:22:06,517 | 00:22:09,057 | You just worked with what you've got. | You just worked with what you've got. |
457 | 00:22:12,309 | 00:22:14,391 | - The world's greatest heartbreaker drives up | - The world's greatest heartbreaker drives up |
458 | 00:22:14,392 | 00:22:16,558 | in her Mercedes sedan and strides in, | in her Mercedes sedan and strides in, |
459 | 00:22:16,559 | 00:22:20,640 | all fresh and breezy in a red knit hot pants outfit, | all fresh and breezy in a red knit hot pants outfit, |
460 | 00:22:20,641 | 00:22:22,599 | third button unbuttoned, | third button unbuttoned, |
461 | 00:22:22,600 | 00:22:27,224 | supple legs still very trim at age 32, charging on to 33. | supple legs still very trim at age 32, charging on to 33. |
462 | 00:22:31,891 | 00:22:34,433 | - ♪ When I was a little girl ♪ | - ♪ When I was a little girl ♪ |
463 | 00:22:34,434 | 00:22:37,266 | ♪ I had a rag doll ♪ | ♪ I had a rag doll ♪ |
464 | 00:22:37,267 | 00:22:40,099 | ♪ Only doll I've ever owned ♪ | ♪ Only doll I've ever owned ♪ |
465 | 00:22:42,517 | 00:22:45,516 | - In the mid '60s, around 1966, | - In the mid '60s, around 1966, |
466 | 00:22:45,517 | 00:22:49,182 | I saw Ike and Tina in North Beach | I saw Ike and Tina in North Beach |
467 | 00:22:49,183 | 00:22:52,890 | and was just knocked out. | and was just knocked out. |
468 | 00:22:52,891 | 00:22:55,433 | - ♪ And it gets stronger ♪ | - ♪ And it gets stronger ♪ |
469 | 00:22:55,434 | 00:22:58,141 | ♪ In every way ♪ | ♪ In every way ♪ |
470 | 00:22:58,142 | 00:23:00,932 | ♪ And it gets deeper ♪ | ♪ And it gets deeper ♪ |
471 | 00:23:00,933 | 00:23:03,682 | ♪ Let me say ♪ | ♪ Let me say ♪ |
472 | 00:23:03,683 | 00:23:06,765 | ♪ And it gets higher ♪ | ♪ And it gets higher ♪ |
473 | 00:23:06,766 | 00:23:09,016 | ♪ Day by day ♪ | ♪ Day by day ♪ |
474 | 00:23:09,017 | 00:23:11,974 | - I'd always been an R&B fan, but this was beyond R&B. | - I'd always been an R&B fan, but this was beyond R&B. |
475 | 00:23:11,975 | 00:23:15,308 | This was showmanship. This was rock and roll. | This was showmanship. This was rock and roll. |
476 | 00:23:15,309 | 00:23:19,099 | - ♪ Yeah, river deep, mountain high ♪ | - ♪ Yeah, river deep, mountain high ♪ |
477 | 00:23:19,100 | 00:23:21,474 | ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ | ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ |
478 | 00:23:21,475 | 00:23:24,433 | - And so it was just in my head, and I volunteered, | - And so it was just in my head, and I volunteered, |
479 | 00:23:24,434 | 00:23:26,932 | "Yeah, I've seen them, I love them, and let's go." | "Yeah, I've seen them, I love them, and let's go." |
480 | 00:23:26,933 | 00:23:29,266 | - ♪ Oh, how I love you, baby ♪ | - ♪ Oh, how I love you, baby ♪ |
481 | 00:23:29,267 | 00:23:32,932 | ♪ Baby, baby, baby ♪ | ♪ Baby, baby, baby ♪ |
482 | 00:23:39,058 | 00:23:41,099 | ♪ I love you, baby ♪ | ♪ I love you, baby ♪ |
483 | 00:23:41,100 | 00:23:44,266 | ♪ Like a flower loves the spring ♪ | ♪ Like a flower loves the spring ♪ |
484 | 00:23:44,267 | 00:23:46,349 | ♪ And I love you, baby ♪ | ♪ And I love you, baby ♪ |
485 | 00:23:46,350 | 00:23:49,932 | ♪ Like a robin loves to sing ♪ | ♪ Like a robin loves to sing ♪ |
486 | 00:23:49,933 | 00:23:52,057 | ♪ And I love you, baby ♪ | ♪ And I love you, baby ♪ |
487 | 00:23:52,058 | 00:23:55,807 | ♪ Like a schoolboy loves his pet ♪ | ♪ Like a schoolboy loves his pet ♪ |
488 | 00:23:55,808 | 00:23:57,516 | ♪ And I love you, baby ♪ | ♪ And I love you, baby ♪ |
489 | 00:23:57,517 | 00:24:01,349 | ♪ River deep and mountain high ♪ | ♪ River deep and mountain high ♪ |
490 | 00:24:01,350 | 00:24:03,974 | - "River Deep, Mountain High"-- | - "River Deep, Mountain High"-- |
491 | 00:24:03,975 | 00:24:07,516 | to hear that song for the first time in 1967, | to hear that song for the first time in 1967, |
492 | 00:24:07,517 | 00:24:10,099 | the first year of acid rock and Memphis soul, | the first year of acid rock and Memphis soul, |
493 | 00:24:10,100 | 00:24:12,640 | to hear that wall falling toward you, | to hear that wall falling toward you, |
494 | 00:24:12,641 | 00:24:14,516 | with Tina teasing it along, | with Tina teasing it along, |
495 | 00:24:14,517 | 00:24:18,224 | was to understand all the power of rock and roll. | was to understand all the power of rock and roll. |
496 | 00:24:18,225 | 00:24:20,016 | - ♪ Do I love you ♪ | - ♪ Do I love you ♪ |
497 | 00:24:20,017 | 00:24:22,974 | ♪ My, oh, my ♪ | ♪ My, oh, my ♪ |
498 | 00:24:22,975 | 00:24:26,558 | ♪ Yeah, river deep, mountain high ♪ | ♪ Yeah, river deep, mountain high ♪ |
499 | 00:24:26,559 | 00:24:28,141 | ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ | ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ |
500 | 00:24:28,142 | 00:24:30,182 | - But after "River Deep" bombed, | - But after "River Deep" bombed, |
501 | 00:24:30,183 | 00:24:32,349 | Ike Turner said the Spector production didn't get airplay | Ike Turner said the Spector production didn't get airplay |
502 | 00:24:32,350 | 00:24:34,807 | because the soul stations said "too pop," | because the soul stations said "too pop," |
503 | 00:24:34,808 | 00:24:37,932 | and the white stations said "too R&B." | and the white stations said "too R&B." |
504 | 00:24:37,933 | 00:24:39,890 | "See, what's wrong with America | "See, what's wrong with America |
505 | 00:24:39,891 | 00:24:42,016 | "is that rather than accept something for its value, | "is that rather than accept something for its value, |
506 | 00:24:42,017 | 00:24:45,100 | America mixes race in it." | America mixes race in it." |
507 | 00:24:46,517 | 00:24:48,765 | What finally carried Ike and Tina through | What finally carried Ike and Tina through |
508 | 00:24:48,766 | 00:24:51,849 | was the 1969 Rolling Stones tour. | was the 1969 Rolling Stones tour. |
509 | 00:24:51,850 | 00:24:55,308 | Someone once called Tina "The female Mick Jagger." | Someone once called Tina "The female Mick Jagger." |
510 | 00:24:55,309 | 00:24:57,016 | To be more accurate, | To be more accurate, |
511 | 00:24:57,017 | 00:25:01,391 | one should call Mick "The Male Tina Turner." | one should call Mick "The Male Tina Turner." |
512 | 00:25:01,392 | 00:25:03,724 | - All right, can you tell me, just real quickly, | - All right, can you tell me, just real quickly, |
513 | 00:25:03,725 | 00:25:06,349 | what was your first connection with the Stones? | what was your first connection with the Stones? |
514 | 00:25:06,350 | 00:25:08,433 | - So I think with the influence | - So I think with the influence |
515 | 00:25:08,434 | 00:25:10,391 | that "River Deep, Mountain High" had on Mick, | that "River Deep, Mountain High" had on Mick, |
516 | 00:25:10,392 | 00:25:12,224 | and then when he came to see our show, | and then when he came to see our show, |
517 | 00:25:12,225 | 00:25:14,099 | he wanted, you know, us to be on his show | he wanted, you know, us to be on his show |
518 | 00:25:14,100 | 00:25:16,057 | because he felt that it would be different. | because he felt that it would be different. |
519 | 00:25:16,058 | 00:25:18,349 | - Right. This is a weird question, but did you have | - Right. This is a weird question, but did you have |
520 | 00:25:18,350 | 00:25:20,516 | any kind of a rush of excitement when you discovered | any kind of a rush of excitement when you discovered |
521 | 00:25:20,517 | 00:25:23,224 | there was a whole new kind of a culture | there was a whole new kind of a culture |
522 | 00:25:23,225 | 00:25:25,391 | that was a ready audience for you? | that was a ready audience for you? |
523 | 00:25:25,392 | 00:25:27,433 | - Hippies came, and they changed the world. | - Hippies came, and they changed the world. |
524 | 00:25:27,434 | 00:25:30,057 | They changed the minds because they said, "Well, why? | They changed the minds because they said, "Well, why? |
525 | 00:25:30,058 | 00:25:31,849 | "Why is it that you can say that Tina Turner | "Why is it that you can say that Tina Turner |
526 | 00:25:31,850 | 00:25:33,516 | isn't as good as The Supremes?" | isn't as good as The Supremes?" |
527 | 00:25:33,517 | 00:25:35,391 | And everybody else said, "Yeah, why?" | And everybody else said, "Yeah, why?" |
528 | 00:25:35,392 | 00:25:37,308 | This girl and their act is just as good | This girl and their act is just as good |
529 | 00:25:37,309 | 00:25:40,474 | as these other people that you figure is class. | as these other people that you figure is class. |
530 | 00:25:40,475 | 00:25:43,640 | And she's just as much class as they are. | And she's just as much class as they are. |
531 | 00:25:45,058 | 00:25:47,765 | ♪ Shoo ♪ | ♪ Shoo ♪ |
532 | 00:25:47,766 | 00:25:50,599 | ♪ Shoo ♪ | ♪ Shoo ♪ |
533 | 00:25:50,600 | 00:25:53,599 | ♪ Shoo ♪ | ♪ Shoo ♪ |
534 | 00:25:53,600 | 00:25:56,765 | ♪ Shoo ♪ | ♪ Shoo ♪ |
535 | 00:25:56,766 | 00:25:58,849 | ♪ Here come old flat-top ♪ | ♪ Here come old flat-top ♪ |
536 | 00:25:58,850 | 00:26:01,849 | ♪ He comes grooving up slowly ♪ | ♪ He comes grooving up slowly ♪ |
537 | 00:26:01,850 | 00:26:04,682 | ♪ He's got ju-ju eyeballs ♪ | ♪ He's got ju-ju eyeballs ♪ |
538 | 00:26:04,683 | 00:26:07,599 | ♪ He one holy roller ♪ | ♪ He one holy roller ♪ |
539 | 00:26:07,600 | 00:26:13,682 | ♪ He's got hair down to his knees ♪ | ♪ He's got hair down to his knees ♪ |
540 | 00:26:13,683 | 00:26:19,807 | ♪ Got to be a joker, he just do what he please ♪ | ♪ Got to be a joker, he just do what he please ♪ |
541 | 00:26:19,808 | 00:26:20,974 | ♪ Shoo ♪ | ♪ Shoo ♪ |
542 | 00:26:20,975 | 00:26:22,807 | - The move to interpreting | - The move to interpreting |
543 | 00:26:22,808 | 00:26:25,433 | white rock and roll, she says, was quite natural. | white rock and roll, she says, was quite natural. |
544 | 00:26:25,434 | 00:26:28,308 | "My mother, her radio was usually blues, | "My mother, her radio was usually blues, |
545 | 00:26:28,309 | 00:26:29,807 | "B.B. King and all. | "B.B. King and all. |
546 | 00:26:29,808 | 00:26:31,391 | "But rock and roll was more me. | "But rock and roll was more me. |
547 | 00:26:31,392 | 00:26:33,349 | "When that sort of music came on, | "When that sort of music came on, |
548 | 00:26:33,350 | 00:26:35,057 | "I never could sit down. | "I never could sit down. |
549 | 00:26:35,058 | 00:26:37,141 | I always wanted to move." | I always wanted to move." |
550 | 00:26:37,142 | 00:26:39,308 | - ♪ He's got monkey fingers ♪ | - ♪ He's got monkey fingers ♪ |
551 | 00:26:39,309 | 00:26:42,057 | ♪ He shoots Coca-Cola ♪ | ♪ He shoots Coca-Cola ♪ |
552 | 00:26:42,058 | 00:26:45,640 | ♪ He says I know you ♪ | ♪ He says I know you ♪ |
553 | 00:26:45,641 | 00:26:48,308 | ♪ You know me ♪ | ♪ You know me ♪ |
554 | 00:26:48,309 | 00:26:53,182 | ♪ One thing I can tell you is you've got to be free ♪ | ♪ One thing I can tell you is you've got to be free ♪ |
555 | 00:26:53,183 | 00:26:55,974 | ♪ Come together ♪ | ♪ Come together ♪ |
556 | 00:26:55,975 | 00:26:58,849 | ♪ Right now ♪ | ♪ Right now ♪ |
557 | 00:26:58,850 | 00:27:01,141 | ♪ Over me ♪ | ♪ Over me ♪ |
558 | 00:27:01,142 | 00:27:02,682 | ♪ Shoo ♪ | ♪ Shoo ♪ |
559 | 00:27:02,683 | 00:27:04,890 | - On stage, there may be reason to compare | - On stage, there may be reason to compare |
560 | 00:27:04,891 | 00:27:06,974 | Tina Turner to Mick Jagger. | Tina Turner to Mick Jagger. |
561 | 00:27:06,975 | 00:27:10,682 | Tina, in fact, is more aggressive, more animalistic. | Tina, in fact, is more aggressive, more animalistic. |
562 | 00:27:10,683 | 00:27:13,016 | But it is, indeed, a stage. | But it is, indeed, a stage. |
563 | 00:27:13,017 | 00:27:14,974 | "My whole thing," she once said, | "My whole thing," she once said, |
564 | 00:27:14,975 | 00:27:16,890 | "Is the fact I am to Ike-- | "Is the fact I am to Ike-- |
565 | 00:27:16,891 | 00:27:19,016 | "I'm going to use the term 'doll'-- | "I'm going to use the term 'doll'-- |
566 | 00:27:19,017 | 00:27:21,016 | that you sort of mold." | that you sort of mold." |
567 | 00:27:21,017 | 00:27:24,308 | - Do it. - Do it, go, three, four. | - Do it. - Do it, go, three, four. |
568 | 00:27:24,309 | 00:27:28,224 | - ♪ Handful of gimme ♪ | - ♪ Handful of gimme ♪ |
569 | 00:27:28,225 | 00:27:31,807 | ♪ Mouthful of much obliged ♪ | ♪ Mouthful of much obliged ♪ |
570 | 00:27:31,808 | 00:27:33,974 | - ♪ Handful of gimme ♪ | - ♪ Handful of gimme ♪ |
571 | 00:27:33,975 | 00:27:36,807 | ♪ Mouthful of much obliged ♪ | ♪ Mouthful of much obliged ♪ |
572 | 00:27:36,808 | 00:27:38,224 | - Much obliged. | - Much obliged. |
573 | 00:27:38,225 | 00:27:40,057 | - ♪ Much obliged ♪ - Right on. | - ♪ Much obliged ♪ - Right on. |
574 | 00:27:43,267 | 00:27:46,474 | - Tina is giving me a tour of Ike's new main studios. | - Tina is giving me a tour of Ike's new main studios. |
575 | 00:27:46,475 | 00:27:48,890 | There's a double-door air closet at the entrance | There's a double-door air closet at the entrance |
576 | 00:27:48,891 | 00:27:51,433 | to Ike's private quarters. | to Ike's private quarters. |
577 | 00:27:51,434 | 00:27:53,057 | Tina turns to Ike and says, | Tina turns to Ike and says, |
578 | 00:27:53,058 | 00:27:55,724 | "Can I tell 'em what we call this room? | "Can I tell 'em what we call this room? |
579 | 00:27:55,725 | 00:27:57,558 | We call it the whorehouse." | We call it the whorehouse." |
580 | 00:27:57,559 | 00:28:00,391 | - Let me hear it. - ♪ Oh, never you ♪ | - Let me hear it. - ♪ Oh, never you ♪ |
581 | 00:28:00,392 | 00:28:03,682 | I asked an ex-Ikette about Ike Turner and sex. | I asked an ex-Ikette about Ike Turner and sex. |
582 | 00:28:03,683 | 00:28:07,516 | "Sex, oh, my God, that's another volume," she said. | "Sex, oh, my God, that's another volume," she said. |
583 | 00:28:07,517 | 00:28:09,765 | "I'll have to get a cigarette on that one." | "I'll have to get a cigarette on that one." |
584 | 00:28:09,766 | 00:28:11,974 | - One, two, three, and... | - One, two, three, and... |
585 | 00:28:17,850 | 00:28:20,349 | - Last winter Tina was sick with bronchial pneumonia, | - Last winter Tina was sick with bronchial pneumonia, |
586 | 00:28:20,350 | 00:28:22,141 | in the hospital with her body ice-packed | in the hospital with her body ice-packed |
587 | 00:28:22,142 | 00:28:23,890 | to bring the temperature down. | to bring the temperature down. |
588 | 00:28:23,891 | 00:28:25,890 | And Ike was visiting, and he was going, | And Ike was visiting, and he was going, |
589 | 00:28:25,891 | 00:28:30,142 | "You get out and sing, or you get out of the house!" | "You get out and sing, or you get out of the house!" |
590 | 00:28:38,183 | 00:28:42,266 | ♪ Lord knows I've tried ♪ | ♪ Lord knows I've tried ♪ |
591 | 00:28:42,267 | 00:28:45,599 | ♪ I've tried to do what's right ♪ | ♪ I've tried to do what's right ♪ |
592 | 00:28:47,975 | 00:28:52,308 | ♪ Five whole long years I stayed home ♪ | ♪ Five whole long years I stayed home ♪ |
593 | 00:28:52,309 | 00:28:56,141 | ♪ Both day and night ♪ | ♪ Both day and night ♪ |
594 | 00:28:57,309 | 00:28:59,599 | ♪ And now I smell ♪ | ♪ And now I smell ♪ |
595 | 00:28:59,600 | 00:29:02,682 | ♪ A whole lot of trouble ♪ | ♪ A whole lot of trouble ♪ |
596 | 00:29:05,225 | 00:29:08,266 | ♪ Lord, I smell trouble ♪ | ♪ Lord, I smell trouble ♪ |
597 | 00:29:08,267 | 00:29:10,516 | ♪ Ahead of me ♪ | ♪ Ahead of me ♪ |
598 | 00:29:10,517 | 00:29:13,141 | - Ike and Tina, when they do an interview together, | - Ike and Tina, when they do an interview together, |
599 | 00:29:13,142 | 00:29:17,599 | invariably they disagree and chide each other. | invariably they disagree and chide each other. |
600 | 00:29:17,600 | 00:29:21,433 | - ♪ Ohh ♪ | - ♪ Ohh ♪ |
601 | 00:29:21,434 | 00:29:24,349 | ♪ Worries and trouble ♪ | ♪ Worries and trouble ♪ |
602 | 00:29:26,641 | 00:29:29,433 | ♪ I declare they just won't... ♪ | ♪ I declare they just won't... ♪ |
603 | 00:29:29,434 | 00:29:32,932 | - Posing for a photo, Ike is asked to embrace Tina. | - Posing for a photo, Ike is asked to embrace Tina. |
604 | 00:29:32,933 | 00:29:36,057 | He does and warns, "Better catch this quick. | He does and warns, "Better catch this quick. |
605 | 00:29:36,058 | 00:29:38,016 | I don't do this often." | I don't do this often." |
606 | 00:29:48,850 | 00:29:52,682 | - Oh, this is a great, great story, great sitting. | - Oh, this is a great, great story, great sitting. |
607 | 00:29:52,683 | 00:29:54,516 | - Mm-hmm. | - Mm-hmm. |
608 | 00:29:54,517 | 00:29:56,433 | Ike and Tina, was he crazy at the time? | Ike and Tina, was he crazy at the time? |
609 | 00:29:56,434 | 00:29:58,266 | - Yes, yes, yes. - And what did he-- | - Yes, yes, yes. - And what did he-- |
610 | 00:29:58,267 | 00:30:00,349 | Did he make your life difficult in doing that picture? | Did he make your life difficult in doing that picture? |
611 | 00:30:00,350 | 00:30:02,682 | Because he threatened Ben | Because he threatened Ben |
612 | 00:30:02,683 | 00:30:04,349 | at the end of that story with something. | at the end of that story with something. |
613 | 00:30:04,350 | 00:30:06,849 | - Ike didn't seem to mind me being around, | - Ike didn't seem to mind me being around, |
614 | 00:30:06,850 | 00:30:09,182 | and I was taking a lot of, you know, photographs, | and I was taking a lot of, you know, photographs, |
615 | 00:30:09,183 | 00:30:12,016 | and I was, you know, around. | and I was, you know, around. |
616 | 00:30:12,017 | 00:30:14,890 | And I told, uh, Ben about it. | And I told, uh, Ben about it. |
617 | 00:30:14,891 | 00:30:16,724 | I told him what I saw. | I told him what I saw. |
618 | 00:30:16,725 | 00:30:19,349 | You know, like, there would be jugs full of white powder | You know, like, there would be jugs full of white powder |
619 | 00:30:19,350 | 00:30:20,890 | and things like that. | and things like that. |
620 | 00:30:20,891 | 00:30:23,057 | Cameras in the bedrooms. | Cameras in the bedrooms. |
621 | 00:30:23,058 | 00:30:25,016 | And Ben wrote about it, | And Ben wrote about it, |
622 | 00:30:25,017 | 00:30:28,599 | and, uh--and then I got a call from Ike, saying, | and, uh--and then I got a call from Ike, saying, |
623 | 00:30:28,600 | 00:30:30,141 | "I trusted you. What did-- | "I trusted you. What did-- |
624 | 00:30:30,142 | 00:30:32,682 | Annie, this is Ike," you know like-- | Annie, this is Ike," you know like-- |
625 | 00:30:32,683 | 00:30:34,224 | And, you know, like, "I trusted you. | And, you know, like, "I trusted you. |
626 | 00:30:34,225 | 00:30:35,974 | How could you have done this?" | How could you have done this?" |
627 | 00:30:35,975 | 00:30:38,057 | And, you know, "I have ways to take care of this." | And, you know, "I have ways to take care of this." |
628 | 00:30:43,766 | 00:30:46,765 | Those years at "Rolling Stone" formed me completely | Those years at "Rolling Stone" formed me completely |
629 | 00:30:46,766 | 00:30:50,308 | as a journalist and a photographer. | as a journalist and a photographer. |
630 | 00:30:50,309 | 00:30:52,141 | That's what this work is here. | That's what this work is here. |
631 | 00:30:52,142 | 00:30:54,640 | It really is looking at sort of growing up | It really is looking at sort of growing up |
632 | 00:30:54,641 | 00:30:57,932 | a young-- a young girl photographer. | a young-- a young girl photographer. |
633 | 00:31:00,100 | 00:31:03,057 | This is my second assignment, which is pretty incredible. | This is my second assignment, which is pretty incredible. |
634 | 00:31:03,058 | 00:31:04,391 | - Mm-hmm. | - Mm-hmm. |
635 | 00:31:04,392 | 00:31:06,141 | - Grace Slick and Paul Kantner. | - Grace Slick and Paul Kantner. |
636 | 00:31:06,142 | 00:31:08,182 | - They were super popular at the time. I mean, huge. | - They were super popular at the time. I mean, huge. |
637 | 00:31:08,183 | 00:31:11,807 | It's incredible how intimate in their lives you got, | It's incredible how intimate in their lives you got, |
638 | 00:31:11,808 | 00:31:13,391 | or they let you get. | or they let you get. |
639 | 00:31:13,392 | 00:31:15,099 | - But--but everyone was that way. | - But--but everyone was that way. |
640 | 00:31:15,100 | 00:31:16,433 | I mean, no one got dressed up. | I mean, no one got dressed up. |
641 | 00:31:16,434 | 00:31:17,932 | No one, like, you know-- | No one, like, you know-- |
642 | 00:31:17,933 | 00:31:20,266 | Everyone was, like, very relaxed. | Everyone was, like, very relaxed. |
643 | 00:31:20,267 | 00:31:23,016 | - It's just the intimacy level that they gave you. | - It's just the intimacy level that they gave you. |
644 | 00:31:23,017 | 00:31:25,308 | - You know, we're all sitting on some waterbed or something. | - You know, we're all sitting on some waterbed or something. |
645 | 00:31:25,309 | 00:31:27,599 | I don't know. - Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. | I don't know. - Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. |
646 | 00:31:27,600 | 00:31:32,099 | All the drug paraphernalia laying around. | All the drug paraphernalia laying around. |
647 | 00:31:32,100 | 00:31:34,224 | - When I went in for John and Yoko, I said, | - When I went in for John and Yoko, I said, |
648 | 00:31:34,225 | 00:31:35,932 | "Oh, my gosh, I'm photographing | "Oh, my gosh, I'm photographing |
649 | 00:31:35,933 | 00:31:38,724 | this extraordinarily famous person." | this extraordinarily famous person." |
650 | 00:31:38,725 | 00:31:40,099 | But they couldn't have been nicer. | But they couldn't have been nicer. |
651 | 00:31:40,100 | 00:31:41,974 | They were incredible. - Mm-hmm. | They were incredible. - Mm-hmm. |
652 | 00:31:41,975 | 00:31:44,308 | - And then Yoko Ono finally told me years later | - And then Yoko Ono finally told me years later |
653 | 00:31:44,309 | 00:31:46,974 | that they were so impressed that you took | that they were so impressed that you took |
654 | 00:31:46,975 | 00:31:48,932 | a photographer that wasn't known, | a photographer that wasn't known, |
655 | 00:31:48,933 | 00:31:53,016 | and a girl, and let her come and take these pictures. | and a girl, and let her come and take these pictures. |
656 | 00:31:53,017 | 00:31:54,640 | And that's why they were-- | And that's why they were-- |
657 | 00:31:54,641 | 00:31:56,558 | I think that's why they were so accommodating, | I think that's why they were so accommodating, |
658 | 00:31:56,559 | 00:31:58,807 | is they just-- they thought it was really | is they just-- they thought it was really |
659 | 00:31:58,808 | 00:32:01,599 | kind of charming and sweet that you took a sort of-- | kind of charming and sweet that you took a sort of-- |
660 | 00:32:01,600 | 00:32:04,558 | this unknown photographer and let her take those pictures. | this unknown photographer and let her take those pictures. |
661 | 00:32:04,559 | 00:32:06,558 | And you know the story about this picture. | And you know the story about this picture. |
662 | 00:32:06,559 | 00:32:08,099 | - Mm-hmm. | - Mm-hmm. |
663 | 00:32:08,100 | 00:32:10,141 | - You saw this picture on a contact sheet. | - You saw this picture on a contact sheet. |
664 | 00:32:10,142 | 00:32:12,308 | - I said, "That's the cover." - You did, you did say that. | - I said, "That's the cover." - You did, you did say that. |
665 | 00:32:12,309 | 00:32:13,890 | - Yeah, I picked that out immediately. | - Yeah, I picked that out immediately. |
666 | 00:32:13,891 | 00:32:16,474 | Look at the power of that expression. | Look at the power of that expression. |
667 | 00:32:17,891 | 00:32:20,849 | ♪ Look at me ♪ | ♪ Look at me ♪ |
668 | 00:32:24,350 | 00:32:27,682 | ♪ Who am I supposed to be? ♪ | ♪ Who am I supposed to be? ♪ |
669 | 00:32:27,683 | 00:32:29,682 | ♪ Who am I supposed to be? ♪ | ♪ Who am I supposed to be? ♪ |
670 | 00:32:29,683 | 00:32:32,516 | - Our first real contact with John and Yoko | - Our first real contact with John and Yoko |
671 | 00:32:32,517 | 00:32:35,724 | was about nine or ten months into starting "Rolling Stone." | was about nine or ten months into starting "Rolling Stone." |
672 | 00:32:35,725 | 00:32:38,433 | We heard about the "Two Virgins" record, | We heard about the "Two Virgins" record, |
673 | 00:32:38,434 | 00:32:41,182 | that first solo record by John and Yoko together. | that first solo record by John and Yoko together. |
674 | 00:32:41,183 | 00:32:42,682 | Kind of experimental music. | Kind of experimental music. |
675 | 00:32:51,641 | 00:32:54,349 | The cover and the back cover of that record | The cover and the back cover of that record |
676 | 00:32:54,350 | 00:32:58,266 | was a photograph of the two of them naked. | was a photograph of the two of them naked. |
677 | 00:32:58,267 | 00:33:01,558 | Well, this was banned in quite a lot of places, | Well, this was banned in quite a lot of places, |
678 | 00:33:01,559 | 00:33:03,391 | including the United States. | including the United States. |
679 | 00:33:03,392 | 00:33:07,266 | - The naked album cover, we felt like two virgins-- | - The naked album cover, we felt like two virgins-- |
680 | 00:33:07,267 | 00:33:08,890 | that's what the album was called-- | that's what the album was called-- |
681 | 00:33:08,891 | 00:33:10,516 | because we were in love, | because we were in love, |
682 | 00:33:10,517 | 00:33:13,932 | just met, and we were trying to make something. | just met, and we were trying to make something. |
683 | 00:33:13,933 | 00:33:16,932 | And we thought to show everything. | And we thought to show everything. |
684 | 00:33:16,933 | 00:33:18,849 | People are always looking at people like me, | People are always looking at people like me, |
685 | 00:33:18,850 | 00:33:20,682 | trying to see some secret or, | trying to see some secret or, |
686 | 00:33:20,683 | 00:33:22,558 | "What do they do? What do they do?" | "What do they do? What do they do?" |
687 | 00:33:22,559 | 00:33:24,308 | You know, "Do they go to the bathroom? | You know, "Do they go to the bathroom? |
688 | 00:33:24,309 | 00:33:25,640 | Do they eat?" | Do they eat?" |
689 | 00:33:25,641 | 00:33:28,182 | We just said, "Here." You know? | We just said, "Here." You know? |
690 | 00:33:28,183 | 00:33:30,599 | - We decided to write them | - We decided to write them |
691 | 00:33:30,600 | 00:33:32,308 | and tell them we'll publish it. | and tell them we'll publish it. |
692 | 00:33:32,309 | 00:33:35,474 | It created quite a stir. | It created quite a stir. |
693 | 00:33:35,475 | 00:33:38,849 | Really the first time we had gotten any kind of attention. | Really the first time we had gotten any kind of attention. |
694 | 00:33:38,850 | 00:33:41,266 | The "San Francisco Chronicle" ran an article, | The "San Francisco Chronicle" ran an article, |
695 | 00:33:41,267 | 00:33:46,474 | which was headlined, "Naked Beatle Perils S.F." | which was headlined, "Naked Beatle Perils S.F." |
696 | 00:33:46,475 | 00:33:48,516 | And I concluded from all this, | And I concluded from all this, |
697 | 00:33:48,517 | 00:33:50,224 | if you print a famous foreskin, | if you print a famous foreskin, |
698 | 00:33:50,225 | 00:33:52,807 | the world will beat a path to your door. | the world will beat a path to your door. |
699 | 00:33:52,808 | 00:33:55,765 | - One, two. One, two, three, four. | - One, two. One, two, three, four. |
700 | 00:34:01,058 | 00:34:04,932 | - ♪ Everybody's talking about Bagism, Shagism, Dragism ♪ | - ♪ Everybody's talking about Bagism, Shagism, Dragism ♪ |
701 | 00:34:04,933 | 00:34:06,932 | ♪ Madism, Ragism, Tagism ♪ | ♪ Madism, Ragism, Tagism ♪ |
702 | 00:34:06,933 | 00:34:09,599 | ♪ This-ism, that-ism, ism, ism, ism ♪ | ♪ This-ism, that-ism, ism, ism, ism ♪ |
703 | 00:34:11,267 | 00:34:17,099 | ♪ All we are saying ♪ | ♪ All we are saying ♪ |
704 | 00:34:17,100 | 00:34:19,266 | ♪ Is give peace a chance ♪ | ♪ Is give peace a chance ♪ |
705 | 00:34:19,267 | 00:34:21,099 | That's all we're saying! | That's all we're saying! |
706 | 00:34:21,100 | 00:34:23,474 | - Because of that cover, | - Because of that cover, |
707 | 00:34:23,475 | 00:34:27,308 | we became friends with John and Yoko. | we became friends with John and Yoko. |
708 | 00:34:27,309 | 00:34:29,308 | You know, I would speak to him on the phone. | You know, I would speak to him on the phone. |
709 | 00:34:29,309 | 00:34:30,932 | He'd give us little interviews, | He'd give us little interviews, |
710 | 00:34:30,933 | 00:34:32,516 | and we'd run all these articles. | and we'd run all these articles. |
711 | 00:34:32,517 | 00:34:34,474 | We covered their peace crusade, | We covered their peace crusade, |
712 | 00:34:34,475 | 00:34:36,391 | the bed-in, and all the various things | the bed-in, and all the various things |
713 | 00:34:36,392 | 00:34:38,558 | that they were doing as John was finding his way | that they were doing as John was finding his way |
714 | 00:34:38,559 | 00:34:40,308 | into political protests | into political protests |
715 | 00:34:40,309 | 00:34:42,016 | and starting to come away from the Beatles, | and starting to come away from the Beatles, |
716 | 00:34:42,017 | 00:34:44,474 | and we kind of became the mouthpiece | and we kind of became the mouthpiece |
717 | 00:34:44,475 | 00:34:46,849 | for John and Yoko. | for John and Yoko. |
718 | 00:34:46,850 | 00:34:49,308 | At the same time, people thought he was just crazy | At the same time, people thought he was just crazy |
719 | 00:34:49,309 | 00:34:51,474 | for doing that kind of stuff. | for doing that kind of stuff. |
720 | 00:34:51,475 | 00:34:53,433 | The media of the world, they didn't want to see | The media of the world, they didn't want to see |
721 | 00:34:53,434 | 00:34:56,640 | anything other than the level mop-top Beatle. | anything other than the level mop-top Beatle. |
722 | 00:34:56,641 | 00:34:59,057 | - What do you know about a protest movement anyway? | - What do you know about a protest movement anyway? |
723 | 00:34:59,058 | 00:35:01,349 | - I know a lot about it-- - It consists of a lot more | - I know a lot about it-- - It consists of a lot more |
724 | 00:35:01,350 | 00:35:03,599 | than sending your chauffeur and your car | than sending your chauffeur and your car |
725 | 00:35:03,600 | 00:35:04,932 | back to Buckingham Palace. | back to Buckingham Palace. |
726 | 00:35:04,933 | 00:35:06,474 | - You're just a snob about it. | - You're just a snob about it. |
727 | 00:35:06,475 | 00:35:07,849 | The only way to make-- - You're a fake. | The only way to make-- - You're a fake. |
728 | 00:35:07,850 | 00:35:09,974 | - ♪ Give peace a chance ♪ | - ♪ Give peace a chance ♪ |
729 | 00:35:09,975 | 00:35:11,516 | - If I'm gonna get on the front page, | - If I'm gonna get on the front page, |
730 | 00:35:11,517 | 00:35:12,765 | I might as well get on the front page | I might as well get on the front page |
731 | 00:35:12,766 | 00:35:14,182 | with the word "peace." | with the word "peace." |
732 | 00:35:14,183 | 00:35:15,974 | - But you've made yourself ridiculous. | - But you've made yourself ridiculous. |
733 | 00:35:15,975 | 00:35:17,474 | - To some people. I don't care if-- | - To some people. I don't care if-- |
734 | 00:35:17,475 | 00:35:19,182 | - You're too good for what you're doing. | - You're too good for what you're doing. |
735 | 00:35:19,183 | 00:35:21,849 | - If it saves lives-- - You don't think you-- | - If it saves lives-- - You don't think you-- |
736 | 00:35:21,850 | 00:35:24,724 | Oh, my dear boy, you're living in a Never Never Land. | Oh, my dear boy, you're living in a Never Never Land. |
737 | 00:35:24,725 | 00:35:28,182 | - ♪ Is give peace a chance ♪ | - ♪ Is give peace a chance ♪ |
738 | 00:35:28,183 | 00:35:30,682 | - ♪ Everybody's talking about revolution, evolution... ♪ | - ♪ Everybody's talking about revolution, evolution... ♪ |
739 | 00:35:30,683 | 00:35:32,849 | - I'm someone who admired you very much. | - I'm someone who admired you very much. |
740 | 00:35:32,850 | 00:35:34,724 | - Well, I'm sorry you liked the old mop tops, dear, | - Well, I'm sorry you liked the old mop tops, dear, |
741 | 00:35:34,725 | 00:35:38,016 | and you thought it was very satirical and witty, | and you thought it was very satirical and witty, |
742 | 00:35:38,017 | 00:35:39,849 | and you liked "Hard Day's Night," love, | and you liked "Hard Day's Night," love, |
743 | 00:35:39,850 | 00:35:41,599 | but I've grown up, but you obviously haven't. | but I've grown up, but you obviously haven't. |
744 | 00:35:41,600 | 00:35:43,558 | - Have you? - Yes, folks. | - Have you? - Yes, folks. |
745 | 00:35:43,559 | 00:35:46,224 | - What have you grown up to? - Oh, 29. | - What have you grown up to? - Oh, 29. |
746 | 00:35:46,225 | 00:35:47,558 | - Yes, yeah. | - Yes, yeah. |
747 | 00:35:47,559 | 00:35:49,057 | - You were saying that in America, | - You were saying that in America, |
748 | 00:35:49,058 | 00:35:51,016 | they're so serious about the protest movement. | they're so serious about the protest movement. |
749 | 00:35:51,017 | 00:35:52,724 | - Yes, they are. - But they were so flippant | - Yes, they are. - But they were so flippant |
750 | 00:35:52,725 | 00:35:54,516 | that they were singing a happy-go-lucky song, | that they were singing a happy-go-lucky song, |
751 | 00:35:54,517 | 00:35:56,224 | which happens to be one I wrote, | which happens to be one I wrote, |
752 | 00:35:56,225 | 00:35:57,932 | and I'm glad they sang it. | and I'm glad they sang it. |
753 | 00:35:57,933 | 00:36:01,765 | And that was a message from me to America or to anywhere. | And that was a message from me to America or to anywhere. |
754 | 00:36:01,766 | 00:36:04,224 | - Thank you, good-bye. | - Thank you, good-bye. |
755 | 00:36:04,225 | 00:36:06,433 | - But the last point was a good point, | - But the last point was a good point, |
756 | 00:36:06,434 | 00:36:08,474 | and she didn't want to respond to that. | and she didn't want to respond to that. |
757 | 00:36:08,475 | 00:36:09,807 | - She didn't hear anything. | - She didn't hear anything. |
758 | 00:36:09,808 | 00:36:15,224 | - ♪ All we are saying ♪ | - ♪ All we are saying ♪ |
759 | 00:36:15,225 | 00:36:19,349 | ♪ Is give peace a chance ♪ | ♪ Is give peace a chance ♪ |
760 | 00:36:19,350 | 00:36:21,724 | - Okay, beautiful. Yeah. | - Okay, beautiful. Yeah. |
761 | 00:36:27,808 | 00:36:29,599 | - Would you take it all back? | - Would you take it all back? |
762 | 00:36:29,600 | 00:36:31,349 | - What? - Being a Beatle? | - What? - Being a Beatle? |
763 | 00:36:31,350 | 00:36:33,599 | - If I could be a fucking fisherman, I would. | - If I could be a fucking fisherman, I would. |
764 | 00:36:33,600 | 00:36:35,433 | You know, if I had the capabilities | You know, if I had the capabilities |
765 | 00:36:35,434 | 00:36:37,474 | of being something other than I am, I would. | of being something other than I am, I would. |
766 | 00:36:37,475 | 00:36:40,599 | It's no fun being an artist. It's torture. | It's no fun being an artist. It's torture. |
767 | 00:36:40,600 | 00:36:43,182 | I resent being an artist. | I resent being an artist. |
768 | 00:36:43,183 | 00:36:47,308 | I resent performing for fucking idiots. | I resent performing for fucking idiots. |
769 | 00:36:47,309 | 00:36:48,599 | They can't feel. | They can't feel. |
770 | 00:36:48,600 | 00:36:49,932 | I'm the one that's feeling | I'm the one that's feeling |
771 | 00:36:49,933 | 00:36:51,433 | 'cause I'm the one expressing | 'cause I'm the one expressing |
772 | 00:36:51,434 | 00:36:53,433 | what they are trying to-- | what they are trying to-- |
773 | 00:36:53,434 | 00:36:57,807 | They--they live vicariously through me and other artists. | They--they live vicariously through me and other artists. |
774 | 00:36:57,808 | 00:37:03,057 | I'm interested in more things with a worldwide-- | I'm interested in more things with a worldwide-- |
775 | 00:37:03,058 | 00:37:05,433 | something that means something for everyone, | something that means something for everyone, |
776 | 00:37:05,434 | 00:37:09,141 | not just for a few kids listening to wallpaper. | not just for a few kids listening to wallpaper. |
777 | 00:37:09,142 | 00:37:13,599 | You know, I'm in the game of concept and philosophy | You know, I'm in the game of concept and philosophy |
778 | 00:37:13,600 | 00:37:15,266 | and ways of life | and ways of life |
779 | 00:37:15,267 | 00:37:17,890 | and whole movements in history. | and whole movements in history. |
780 | 00:37:17,891 | 00:37:21,724 | I'm not interested in good guitarists. | I'm not interested in good guitarists. |
781 | 00:37:21,725 | 00:37:23,349 | - You don't really believe that we're headed | - You don't really believe that we're headed |
782 | 00:37:23,350 | 00:37:25,141 | for a violent revolution, do you? | for a violent revolution, do you? |
783 | 00:37:25,142 | 00:37:28,099 | - Eventually it'll happen. | - Eventually it'll happen. |
784 | 00:37:28,100 | 00:37:29,724 | It has to happen, you know? | It has to happen, you know? |
785 | 00:37:29,725 | 00:37:31,266 | What else can happen? | What else can happen? |
786 | 00:37:31,267 | 00:37:33,099 | - The problem is a violent revolution now | - The problem is a violent revolution now |
787 | 00:37:33,100 | 00:37:34,974 | would really just be the end of the world. | would really just be the end of the world. |
788 | 00:37:34,975 | 00:37:36,932 | - Not necessarily. They say that every time. | - Not necessarily. They say that every time. |
789 | 00:37:36,933 | 00:37:40,433 | I don't really believe it. And if it is, okay. | I don't really believe it. And if it is, okay. |
790 | 00:37:40,434 | 00:37:43,141 | I mean, I'm back to where I was when I was 17, you know? | I mean, I'm back to where I was when I was 17, you know? |
791 | 00:37:43,142 | 00:37:44,807 | I mean, at 17, I used to think, | I mean, at 17, I used to think, |
792 | 00:37:44,808 | 00:37:46,807 | "Well, what have you got to lose?" | "Well, what have you got to lose?" |
793 | 00:37:46,808 | 00:37:50,682 | And now I've got nothing to lose. | And now I've got nothing to lose. |
794 | 00:37:50,683 | 00:37:53,765 | ♪ I don't believe in Buddha ♪ | ♪ I don't believe in Buddha ♪ |
795 | 00:37:53,766 | 00:37:55,308 | - I knew Beatles fans around the world | - I knew Beatles fans around the world |
796 | 00:37:55,309 | 00:37:57,349 | had never heard this before. | had never heard this before. |
797 | 00:37:57,350 | 00:38:01,057 | Imagine a guy who so urgently wants to be himself | Imagine a guy who so urgently wants to be himself |
798 | 00:38:01,058 | 00:38:05,640 | and he's being constrained in the Fab Four soapbox package | and he's being constrained in the Fab Four soapbox package |
799 | 00:38:05,641 | 00:38:07,599 | for so long. | for so long. |
800 | 00:38:07,600 | 00:38:09,224 | This is what this interview is. | This is what this interview is. |
801 | 00:38:09,225 | 00:38:10,724 | It's that box exploding. | It's that box exploding. |
802 | 00:38:10,725 | 00:38:12,016 | He's blown it to smithereens. | He's blown it to smithereens. |
803 | 00:38:12,017 | 00:38:16,016 | That box is in tatters. | That box is in tatters. |
804 | 00:38:16,017 | 00:38:20,182 | - ♪ I don't believe in kings ♪ | - ♪ I don't believe in kings ♪ |
805 | 00:38:22,350 | 00:38:26,099 | ♪ I don't believe in Elvis ♪ | ♪ I don't believe in Elvis ♪ |
806 | 00:38:27,683 | 00:38:32,224 | ♪ I don't believe in Zimmerman ♪ | ♪ I don't believe in Zimmerman ♪ |
807 | 00:38:34,017 | 00:38:38,392 | ♪ I don't believe in Beatles ♪ | ♪ I don't believe in Beatles ♪ |
808 | 00:38:39,475 | 00:38:42,724 | - You say now, "I don't believe in the Beatles." | - You say now, "I don't believe in the Beatles." |
809 | 00:38:42,725 | 00:38:45,433 | - Yeah, I don't believe in the Beatles, that's all. | - Yeah, I don't believe in the Beatles, that's all. |
810 | 00:38:45,434 | 00:38:49,057 | I don't believe in the Beatles myth. | I don't believe in the Beatles myth. |
811 | 00:38:49,058 | 00:38:52,349 | You know, I don't believe-- | You know, I don't believe-- |
812 | 00:38:52,350 | 00:38:54,099 | I don't believe in the Beatles. | I don't believe in the Beatles. |
813 | 00:38:54,100 | 00:38:55,890 | Yeah, there's no other way of saying it. | Yeah, there's no other way of saying it. |
814 | 00:38:55,891 | 00:38:57,849 | Is there? I don't believe in them. | Is there? I don't believe in them. |
815 | 00:38:57,850 | 00:38:59,724 | It was a dream. | It was a dream. |
816 | 00:38:59,725 | 00:39:03,558 | I don't believe in the dream anymore. | I don't believe in the dream anymore. |
817 | 00:39:03,559 | 00:39:06,724 | ♪ I just believe in me ♪ | ♪ I just believe in me ♪ |
818 | 00:39:10,225 | 00:39:12,224 | ♪ Yoko and me ♪ | ♪ Yoko and me ♪ |
819 | 00:39:16,225 | 00:39:17,932 | ♪ That's reality ♪ | ♪ That's reality ♪ |
820 | 00:39:20,058 | 00:39:22,433 | ♪ The dream is over ♪ | ♪ The dream is over ♪ |
821 | 00:39:26,392 | 00:39:29,599 | ♪ What can I say? ♪ | ♪ What can I say? ♪ |
822 | 00:39:31,392 | 00:39:33,308 | - The first "Rolling Stone" that I bought | - The first "Rolling Stone" that I bought |
823 | 00:39:33,309 | 00:39:36,640 | was Jann's John Lennon interview, part one. | was Jann's John Lennon interview, part one. |
824 | 00:39:36,641 | 00:39:41,349 | And I couldn't believe the candor of John Lennon. | And I couldn't believe the candor of John Lennon. |
825 | 00:39:41,350 | 00:39:44,141 | I couldn't believe that Jann would ask him this stuff. | I couldn't believe that Jann would ask him this stuff. |
826 | 00:39:44,142 | 00:39:46,141 | I couldn't believe the honesty | I couldn't believe the honesty |
827 | 00:39:46,142 | 00:39:48,391 | that John Lennon answered with. | that John Lennon answered with. |
828 | 00:39:48,392 | 00:39:52,516 | I couldn't believe his ease in the photos with Annie. | I couldn't believe his ease in the photos with Annie. |
829 | 00:39:52,517 | 00:39:55,141 | I couldn't believe he said "fuck" so much. | I couldn't believe he said "fuck" so much. |
830 | 00:39:55,142 | 00:39:58,099 | I mean, this was, like, fun to read. | I mean, this was, like, fun to read. |
831 | 00:39:58,100 | 00:40:01,932 | - ♪ I was the Walrus ♪ | - ♪ I was the Walrus ♪ |
832 | 00:40:01,933 | 00:40:04,807 | - There was this head shop next to this bus stop, | - There was this head shop next to this bus stop, |
833 | 00:40:04,808 | 00:40:06,599 | my school bus stop, | my school bus stop, |
834 | 00:40:06,600 | 00:40:08,640 | and they had "Rolling Stone" in a glass case that said, | and they had "Rolling Stone" in a glass case that said, |
835 | 00:40:08,641 | 00:40:11,224 | "Must be 18 to buy this." | "Must be 18 to buy this." |
836 | 00:40:11,225 | 00:40:12,765 | But it was like one of those places, | But it was like one of those places, |
837 | 00:40:12,766 | 00:40:15,016 | it was like "Ye Olde Head Shoppe" | it was like "Ye Olde Head Shoppe" |
838 | 00:40:15,017 | 00:40:16,765 | S-H-O-P-P-E. | S-H-O-P-P-E. |
839 | 00:40:16,766 | 00:40:18,558 | And I would--I would go in there and, like, | And I would--I would go in there and, like, |
840 | 00:40:18,559 | 00:40:20,016 | see the new "Rolling Stone," | see the new "Rolling Stone," |
841 | 00:40:20,017 | 00:40:21,765 | and eventually they let me buy it. | and eventually they let me buy it. |
842 | 00:40:21,766 | 00:40:23,224 | And that was how I first | And that was how I first |
843 | 00:40:23,225 | 00:40:24,474 | started to read "Rolling Stone." | started to read "Rolling Stone." |
844 | 00:40:24,475 | 00:40:26,182 | - And how old were you then? | - And how old were you then? |
845 | 00:40:26,183 | 00:40:28,516 | - 14. - Right. | - 14. - Right. |
846 | 00:40:28,517 | 00:40:30,141 | - A lucky 14. | - A lucky 14. |
847 | 00:40:32,683 | 00:40:36,890 | My mom, a teacher, who did not believe in rock, | My mom, a teacher, who did not believe in rock, |
848 | 00:40:36,891 | 00:40:39,141 | didn't believe it should even be in the house, | didn't believe it should even be in the house, |
849 | 00:40:39,142 | 00:40:40,807 | would never have believed | would never have believed |
850 | 00:40:40,808 | 00:40:43,266 | the kind of emotional and intellectual commitment | the kind of emotional and intellectual commitment |
851 | 00:40:43,267 | 00:40:46,724 | that these people had towards putting out this magazine. | that these people had towards putting out this magazine. |
852 | 00:40:56,017 | 00:40:59,016 | "Rolling Stone" had these amazing writers. | "Rolling Stone" had these amazing writers. |
853 | 00:40:59,017 | 00:41:01,849 | They were so serious about this thing | They were so serious about this thing |
854 | 00:41:01,850 | 00:41:07,308 | that was supposed to be disposable--rock music. | that was supposed to be disposable--rock music. |
855 | 00:41:07,309 | 00:41:11,016 | And so I was trying to, like, make it in my own little way, | And so I was trying to, like, make it in my own little way, |
856 | 00:41:11,017 | 00:41:13,349 | writing for this local underground paper-- | writing for this local underground paper-- |
857 | 00:41:13,350 | 00:41:17,057 | the "San Diego Door." | the "San Diego Door." |
858 | 00:41:17,058 | 00:41:21,433 | I had started to get copies of my reviews that I would send | I had started to get copies of my reviews that I would send |
859 | 00:41:21,434 | 00:41:23,807 | to Ben Fong-Torres at "Rolling Stone." | to Ben Fong-Torres at "Rolling Stone." |
860 | 00:41:31,891 | 00:41:33,724 | At one point, I got tickets | At one point, I got tickets |
861 | 00:41:33,725 | 00:41:36,682 | to a 1973 Rolling Stones benefit | to a 1973 Rolling Stones benefit |
862 | 00:41:36,683 | 00:41:38,391 | that they did at the Forum. | that they did at the Forum. |
863 | 00:41:38,392 | 00:41:40,099 | And there was a publicist that said to me, | And there was a publicist that said to me, |
864 | 00:41:40,100 | 00:41:43,016 | "Do you want to meet Ben Fong-Torres?" | "Do you want to meet Ben Fong-Torres?" |
865 | 00:41:43,017 | 00:41:44,433 | I said, "Yeah, let's do it." | I said, "Yeah, let's do it." |
866 | 00:41:44,434 | 00:41:47,057 | She was like, "Let's be quick." | She was like, "Let's be quick." |
867 | 00:41:47,058 | 00:41:49,057 | - ♪ Yeah, a Gold Coast slave ship ♪ | - ♪ Yeah, a Gold Coast slave ship ♪ |
868 | 00:41:49,058 | 00:41:50,807 | ♪ Bound for cotton fields ♪ | ♪ Bound for cotton fields ♪ |
869 | 00:41:50,808 | 00:41:53,724 | ♪ Sold in the market down in New Orleans ♪ | ♪ Sold in the market down in New Orleans ♪ |
870 | 00:41:53,725 | 00:41:56,057 | - She takes me down to these great seats | - She takes me down to these great seats |
871 | 00:41:56,058 | 00:41:58,391 | where Ben Fong-Torres was and says, | where Ben Fong-Torres was and says, |
872 | 00:41:58,392 | 00:42:01,057 | "Ben, Ben, I want you to meet this young writer | "Ben, Ben, I want you to meet this young writer |
873 | 00:42:01,058 | 00:42:02,682 | from San Diego." | from San Diego." |
874 | 00:42:02,683 | 00:42:04,266 | And he said, "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I-- | And he said, "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I-- |
875 | 00:42:04,267 | 00:42:06,141 | I think I know your stuff." | I think I know your stuff." |
876 | 00:42:06,142 | 00:42:07,932 | And it was dark and he couldn't see how old I was, | And it was dark and he couldn't see how old I was, |
877 | 00:42:07,933 | 00:42:09,765 | and he was like, "Yeah, great, congratulations. | and he was like, "Yeah, great, congratulations. |
878 | 00:42:09,766 | 00:42:12,141 | It's great to meet you. Enjoy the show. Bye." | It's great to meet you. Enjoy the show. Bye." |
879 | 00:42:12,142 | 00:42:16,224 | But I had met Ben Fong-Torres, and that was the beginning. | But I had met Ben Fong-Torres, and that was the beginning. |
880 | 00:42:22,434 | 00:42:25,807 | - ♪ Drums beating cold, English blood runs hot ♪ | - ♪ Drums beating cold, English blood runs hot ♪ |
881 | 00:42:25,808 | 00:42:29,266 | ♪ Lady of the house wondering when it's gonna stop ♪ | ♪ Lady of the house wondering when it's gonna stop ♪ |
882 | 00:42:29,267 | 00:42:32,807 | ♪ Houseboy knows that he's doing all right ♪ | ♪ Houseboy knows that he's doing all right ♪ |
883 | 00:42:32,808 | 00:42:36,890 | ♪ You should have heard him just around midnight ♪ | ♪ You should have heard him just around midnight ♪ |
884 | 00:42:38,683 | 00:42:42,016 | ♪ Brown Sugar, how come you dance so good? ♪ | ♪ Brown Sugar, how come you dance so good? ♪ |
885 | 00:42:42,017 | 00:42:44,558 | - Ben gave me a couple assignments-- | - Ben gave me a couple assignments-- |
886 | 00:42:44,559 | 00:42:48,141 | Kris Kristofferson, the Eagles. | Kris Kristofferson, the Eagles. |
887 | 00:42:48,142 | 00:42:50,807 | Poco was my first byline piece. | Poco was my first byline piece. |
888 | 00:42:53,017 | 00:42:54,807 | - Cameron was a high-school student, | - Cameron was a high-school student, |
889 | 00:42:54,808 | 00:42:56,474 | you know, in San Diego. | you know, in San Diego. |
890 | 00:42:56,475 | 00:42:58,682 | To get him to go do pieces for us, | To get him to go do pieces for us, |
891 | 00:42:58,683 | 00:43:01,308 | we had to write notes to the school | we had to write notes to the school |
892 | 00:43:01,309 | 00:43:04,474 | getting him out of classes. | getting him out of classes. |
893 | 00:43:04,475 | 00:43:07,474 | Here comes Cameron, this fresh-faced kid, | Here comes Cameron, this fresh-faced kid, |
894 | 00:43:07,475 | 00:43:10,640 | super interested in music, and "aw shucks." | super interested in music, and "aw shucks." |
895 | 00:43:10,641 | 00:43:13,308 | And I think everybody loved him for that. | And I think everybody loved him for that. |
896 | 00:43:13,309 | 00:43:15,266 | - Is Nixon still on their minds? | - Is Nixon still on their minds? |
897 | 00:43:15,267 | 00:43:17,974 | I was just happy to be there. | I was just happy to be there. |
898 | 00:43:17,975 | 00:43:19,890 | I felt like I was a fan, | I felt like I was a fan, |
899 | 00:43:19,891 | 00:43:22,474 | who, along with his front-row seat, | who, along with his front-row seat, |
900 | 00:43:22,475 | 00:43:24,890 | got an opportunity to ask the questions | got an opportunity to ask the questions |
901 | 00:43:24,891 | 00:43:27,932 | that I really wanted to know the answers to. | that I really wanted to know the answers to. |
902 | 00:43:27,933 | 00:43:31,057 | - ♪ Just like a young boy should ♪ | - ♪ Just like a young boy should ♪ |
903 | 00:43:31,058 | 00:43:32,682 | - One of my first pieces for them | - One of my first pieces for them |
904 | 00:43:32,683 | 00:43:34,640 | was a review of Joe Walsh. | was a review of Joe Walsh. |
905 | 00:43:34,641 | 00:43:38,099 | Jann sent me a note that said, | Jann sent me a note that said, |
906 | 00:43:38,100 | 00:43:40,599 | "Nice job. Your stuff's getting better. | "Nice job. Your stuff's getting better. |
907 | 00:43:40,600 | 00:43:42,016 | Jann." | Jann." |
908 | 00:43:42,017 | 00:43:43,890 | Which I thought, "That's amazing. | Which I thought, "That's amazing. |
909 | 00:43:43,891 | 00:43:46,849 | He's reading my Joe Walsh review." | He's reading my Joe Walsh review." |
910 | 00:43:46,850 | 00:43:49,599 | - In that period, I was the hands-on editor | - In that period, I was the hands-on editor |
911 | 00:43:49,600 | 00:43:51,349 | of the magazine of all these writers. | of the magazine of all these writers. |
912 | 00:43:51,350 | 00:43:54,182 | And we had a real great stable of them. | And we had a real great stable of them. |
913 | 00:43:54,183 | 00:43:56,099 | My job is knowing what somebody's good at, | My job is knowing what somebody's good at, |
914 | 00:43:56,100 | 00:43:57,724 | getting them to do what they're good at, | getting them to do what they're good at, |
915 | 00:43:57,725 | 00:43:59,640 | or matching them with a good idea. | or matching them with a good idea. |
916 | 00:43:59,641 | 00:44:01,516 | You know, sometimes great writers just don't know | You know, sometimes great writers just don't know |
917 | 00:44:01,517 | 00:44:03,224 | what they should write about. | what they should write about. |
918 | 00:44:03,225 | 00:44:05,224 | And fairly quickly "Rolling Stone" became | And fairly quickly "Rolling Stone" became |
919 | 00:44:05,225 | 00:44:07,391 | more than a music magazine. | more than a music magazine. |
920 | 00:44:07,392 | 00:44:09,141 | We had really taken over from "Esquire" | We had really taken over from "Esquire" |
921 | 00:44:09,142 | 00:44:10,890 | as the home of the new journalism. | as the home of the new journalism. |
922 | 00:44:10,891 | 00:44:15,433 | I mean, by '73, I had recruited Tom Wolfe. | I mean, by '73, I had recruited Tom Wolfe. |
923 | 00:44:15,434 | 00:44:17,224 | - "Rolling Stone" has been, um, | - "Rolling Stone" has been, um, |
924 | 00:44:17,225 | 00:44:20,640 | extremely flexible and willing to take chances | extremely flexible and willing to take chances |
925 | 00:44:20,641 | 00:44:22,349 | and not frightened. | and not frightened. |
926 | 00:44:22,350 | 00:44:24,016 | "Rolling Stone" broke all the rules. | "Rolling Stone" broke all the rules. |
927 | 00:44:24,017 | 00:44:25,974 | In an era in which young people | In an era in which young people |
928 | 00:44:25,975 | 00:44:29,141 | were supposed to have the shortest attention spans, | were supposed to have the shortest attention spans, |
929 | 00:44:29,142 | 00:44:30,849 | started running articles that were endless. | started running articles that were endless. |
930 | 00:44:30,850 | 00:44:32,433 | I wrote some of them myself. | I wrote some of them myself. |
931 | 00:44:32,434 | 00:44:35,765 | - With "Rolling Stone," I was given the room | - With "Rolling Stone," I was given the room |
932 | 00:44:35,766 | 00:44:39,724 | and the range to really kick ass, you know, | and the range to really kick ass, you know, |
933 | 00:44:39,725 | 00:44:43,640 | to stomp on the terra, as Lord Buckley said. | to stomp on the terra, as Lord Buckley said. |
934 | 00:44:43,641 | 00:44:47,765 | And very few places, uh, will give you that. | And very few places, uh, will give you that. |
935 | 00:44:53,183 | 00:44:55,724 | - My guest, he's the roving correspondent, | - My guest, he's the roving correspondent, |
936 | 00:44:55,725 | 00:44:57,932 | you might say, for "Rolling Stone." | you might say, for "Rolling Stone." |
937 | 00:44:57,933 | 00:44:59,724 | One of the most remarkable journalists | One of the most remarkable journalists |
938 | 00:44:59,725 | 00:45:02,765 | in the country today, Hunter S. Thompson, DGS, | in the country today, Hunter S. Thompson, DGS, |
939 | 00:45:02,766 | 00:45:05,516 | Doctor of Gonzo Journalism. | Doctor of Gonzo Journalism. |
940 | 00:45:05,517 | 00:45:06,600 | - No. | - No. |
941 | 00:45:12,933 | 00:45:14,932 | - What is gonzo journalism? | - What is gonzo journalism? |
942 | 00:45:14,933 | 00:45:17,266 | - Subjectivity, total subjectivity. | - Subjectivity, total subjectivity. |
943 | 00:45:17,267 | 00:45:20,807 | Uh, out-front bias, participation. | Uh, out-front bias, participation. |
944 | 00:45:20,808 | 00:45:23,016 | You are a part of the story. | You are a part of the story. |
945 | 00:45:24,725 | 00:45:26,182 | - Who first came up with the idea | - Who first came up with the idea |
946 | 00:45:26,183 | 00:45:28,433 | of Hunter covering a campaign? | of Hunter covering a campaign? |
947 | 00:45:28,434 | 00:45:30,974 | - I did. | - I did. |
948 | 00:45:30,975 | 00:45:32,849 | At first, I came up with the idea | At first, I came up with the idea |
949 | 00:45:32,850 | 00:45:35,890 | that he should go to Vietnam and cover the war there. | that he should go to Vietnam and cover the war there. |
950 | 00:45:35,891 | 00:45:37,308 | - Nice. | - Nice. |
951 | 00:45:37,309 | 00:45:39,099 | - As we were getting ready to do it, | - As we were getting ready to do it, |
952 | 00:45:39,100 | 00:45:42,308 | I kind of, like, was having second thoughts about it. | I kind of, like, was having second thoughts about it. |
953 | 00:45:44,434 | 00:45:46,349 | - Let's re-mark him. | - Let's re-mark him. |
954 | 00:45:46,350 | 00:45:48,807 | - 961. | - 961. |
955 | 00:45:48,808 | 00:45:51,349 | - You know, I don't know-- I was getting cold feet on it | - You know, I don't know-- I was getting cold feet on it |
956 | 00:45:51,350 | 00:45:53,474 | for some reason or another. | for some reason or another. |
957 | 00:45:53,475 | 00:45:56,640 | - But I'd like to ask you why you use drugs. | - But I'd like to ask you why you use drugs. |
958 | 00:45:56,641 | 00:46:00,765 | - It's been demonstratively proven | - It's been demonstratively proven |
959 | 00:46:00,766 | 00:46:04,640 | that temper tantrums are not the best way to do interviews, | that temper tantrums are not the best way to do interviews, |
960 | 00:46:04,641 | 00:46:07,057 | and probably my life will be easier and yours, too, | and probably my life will be easier and yours, too, |
961 | 00:46:07,058 | 00:46:09,682 | if I smoke a joint. | if I smoke a joint. |
962 | 00:46:09,683 | 00:46:13,016 | If I were to sit here in a fit of anger | If I were to sit here in a fit of anger |
963 | 00:46:13,017 | 00:46:14,807 | and you saw me eating acid, | and you saw me eating acid, |
964 | 00:46:14,808 | 00:46:17,974 | if I were you, I'd leave with all the equipment. | if I were you, I'd leave with all the equipment. |
965 | 00:46:17,975 | 00:46:20,890 | - We set out on the campaign as partners | - We set out on the campaign as partners |
966 | 00:46:20,891 | 00:46:24,182 | in an effort to influence the election, | in an effort to influence the election, |
967 | 00:46:24,183 | 00:46:26,141 | see what we could do with the "Rolling Stone" audience's | see what we could do with the "Rolling Stone" audience's |
968 | 00:46:26,142 | 00:46:28,016 | so-called youth vote. | so-called youth vote. |
969 | 00:46:28,017 | 00:46:29,849 | Nearly all of our audience could all of a sudden vote | Nearly all of our audience could all of a sudden vote |
970 | 00:46:29,850 | 00:46:31,640 | for the first time in American history. | for the first time in American history. |
971 | 00:46:31,641 | 00:46:33,682 | How do you make politics appealing to an audience | How do you make politics appealing to an audience |
972 | 00:46:33,683 | 00:46:35,516 | that didn't like politics? | that didn't like politics? |
973 | 00:46:35,517 | 00:46:37,849 | I mean, take the guy who wrote "Hell's Angels" | I mean, take the guy who wrote "Hell's Angels" |
974 | 00:46:37,850 | 00:46:40,391 | and send him out to cover this cast of thugs | and send him out to cover this cast of thugs |
975 | 00:46:40,392 | 00:46:42,932 | and power mad freaks, and, you know, | and power mad freaks, and, you know, |
976 | 00:46:42,933 | 00:46:46,974 | all these people running around, you know, and Nixon. | all these people running around, you know, and Nixon. |
977 | 00:46:46,975 | 00:46:48,890 | - Would you have any other place | - Would you have any other place |
978 | 00:46:48,891 | 00:46:51,599 | to publish your stuff if it wasn't for "Rolling Stone"? | to publish your stuff if it wasn't for "Rolling Stone"? |
979 | 00:46:51,600 | 00:46:53,391 | - Oh, yeah. | - Oh, yeah. |
980 | 00:46:53,392 | 00:46:56,599 | But there's not too many places that would pay for it. | But there's not too many places that would pay for it. |
981 | 00:46:56,600 | 00:46:58,474 | We've come to the point where every four years, | We've come to the point where every four years, |
982 | 00:46:58,475 | 00:47:00,599 | this national fever rises up. | this national fever rises up. |
983 | 00:47:00,600 | 00:47:02,308 | This hunger for the Savior, | This hunger for the Savior, |
984 | 00:47:02,309 | 00:47:05,308 | the White Knight, the Man on Horseback, | the White Knight, the Man on Horseback, |
985 | 00:47:05,309 | 00:47:08,057 | and whoever wins becomes so immensely powerful, | and whoever wins becomes so immensely powerful, |
986 | 00:47:08,058 | 00:47:10,308 | like Nixon is now, | like Nixon is now, |
987 | 00:47:10,309 | 00:47:12,474 | that when you vote for President today | that when you vote for President today |
988 | 00:47:12,475 | 00:47:14,391 | you're talking about giving a man | you're talking about giving a man |
989 | 00:47:14,392 | 00:47:16,224 | dictatorial power for four years. | dictatorial power for four years. |
990 | 00:47:16,225 | 00:47:17,932 | You almost have to be a rock star | You almost have to be a rock star |
991 | 00:47:17,933 | 00:47:19,682 | to generate the kind of fever | to generate the kind of fever |
992 | 00:47:19,683 | 00:47:22,433 | you need to survive in American politics. | you need to survive in American politics. |
993 | 00:47:25,766 | 00:47:27,599 | - ♪ I was born ♪ | - ♪ I was born ♪ |
994 | 00:47:27,600 | 00:47:30,807 | ♪ In a crossfire hurricane ♪ | ♪ In a crossfire hurricane ♪ |
995 | 00:47:30,808 | 00:47:32,682 | - In a letter released today, | - In a letter released today, |
996 | 00:47:32,683 | 00:47:34,932 | President Nixon announced that he will run for re-election. | President Nixon announced that he will run for re-election. |
997 | 00:47:34,933 | 00:47:38,516 | - ♪ At my ma in the driving rain ♪ | - ♪ At my ma in the driving rain ♪ |
998 | 00:47:40,600 | 00:47:44,266 | ♪ But it's all right, yeah, it's all right ♪ | ♪ But it's all right, yeah, it's all right ♪ |
999 | 00:47:44,267 | 00:47:46,640 | - There's no lack of Democratic candidates. | - There's no lack of Democratic candidates. |
1000 | 00:47:46,641 | 00:47:49,433 | Maine Senator Edmund Muskie is an early favorite. | Maine Senator Edmund Muskie is an early favorite. |
1001 | 00:47:49,434 | 00:47:52,932 | Also in the race, South Dakota Senator George McGovern, | Also in the race, South Dakota Senator George McGovern, |
1002 | 00:47:52,933 | 00:47:56,974 | dark-horse choice of the youth vote. | dark-horse choice of the youth vote. |
1003 | 00:47:56,975 | 00:48:00,558 | - ♪ Whoo ♪ | - ♪ Whoo ♪ |
1004 | 00:48:00,559 | 00:48:02,640 | - When you go to Washington... - Yeah. | - When you go to Washington... - Yeah. |
1005 | 00:48:02,641 | 00:48:06,765 | - You must make applications for press credentials. | - You must make applications for press credentials. |
1006 | 00:48:06,766 | 00:48:08,807 | - I don't think they'd even consider ignoring | - I don't think they'd even consider ignoring |
1007 | 00:48:08,808 | 00:48:11,224 | or turning down "Rolling Stone" anyway. | or turning down "Rolling Stone" anyway. |
1008 | 00:48:11,225 | 00:48:13,057 | Unless there was somebody that had something | Unless there was somebody that had something |
1009 | 00:48:13,058 | 00:48:15,099 | really personal against me. | really personal against me. |
1010 | 00:48:15,100 | 00:48:17,224 | But, uh, I can't think of anybody, | But, uh, I can't think of anybody, |
1011 | 00:48:17,225 | 00:48:19,308 | except some of Nixon's people might. | except some of Nixon's people might. |
1012 | 00:48:19,309 | 00:48:20,474 | - Yeah, yeah. | - Yeah, yeah. |
1013 | 00:48:20,475 | 00:48:22,141 | - ♪ But it's all right ♪ | - ♪ But it's all right ♪ |
1014 | 00:48:22,142 | 00:48:23,807 | - The only way a reporter | - The only way a reporter |
1015 | 00:48:23,808 | 00:48:25,974 | should look at a politician is down. | should look at a politician is down. |
1016 | 00:48:25,975 | 00:48:28,016 | When I went to Washington, | When I went to Washington, |
1017 | 00:48:28,017 | 00:48:30,558 | I was determined to avoid the clubby, personal relationships | I was determined to avoid the clubby, personal relationships |
1018 | 00:48:30,559 | 00:48:32,974 | that develop between politicians and journalists. | that develop between politicians and journalists. |
1019 | 00:48:32,975 | 00:48:34,890 | But there are serious problems | But there are serious problems |
1020 | 00:48:34,891 | 00:48:37,474 | with that kind of merciless, ball-busting approach. | with that kind of merciless, ball-busting approach. |
1021 | 00:48:37,475 | 00:48:39,807 | The most obvious had to do with my natural, | The most obvious had to do with my natural, |
1022 | 00:48:39,808 | 00:48:43,182 | out-front bias for the McGovern candidacy. | out-front bias for the McGovern candidacy. |
1023 | 00:48:43,183 | 00:48:46,224 | - We ought to have on our hearts the young men | - We ought to have on our hearts the young men |
1024 | 00:48:46,225 | 00:48:49,474 | who are still tied down in the bitter fighting. | who are still tied down in the bitter fighting. |
1025 | 00:48:49,475 | 00:48:52,932 | I want the war in Vietnam ended, | I want the war in Vietnam ended, |
1026 | 00:48:52,933 | 00:48:55,141 | and I want it ended without delay. | and I want it ended without delay. |
1027 | 00:48:55,142 | 00:48:58,224 | - He is probably the most honest big-time politician | - He is probably the most honest big-time politician |
1028 | 00:48:58,225 | 00:49:00,558 | in America, which is not quite the same thing | in America, which is not quite the same thing |
1029 | 00:49:00,559 | 00:49:02,433 | as being the best candidate. | as being the best candidate. |
1030 | 00:49:02,434 | 00:49:04,599 | For that, McGovern would need at least one dark, | For that, McGovern would need at least one dark, |
1031 | 00:49:04,600 | 00:49:06,599 | kinky streak of Mick Jagger in his soul. | kinky streak of Mick Jagger in his soul. |
1032 | 00:49:06,600 | 00:49:08,849 | - ♪ I was drowned ♪ | - ♪ I was drowned ♪ |
1033 | 00:49:08,850 | 00:49:11,765 | ♪ I was washed up and left for dead ♪ | ♪ I was washed up and left for dead ♪ |
1034 | 00:49:11,766 | 00:49:13,640 | - So much for objective journalism. | - So much for objective journalism. |
1035 | 00:49:13,641 | 00:49:15,849 | Don't bother to look for it here, | Don't bother to look for it here, |
1036 | 00:49:15,850 | 00:49:17,266 | not under any byline of mine | not under any byline of mine |
1037 | 00:49:17,267 | 00:49:18,890 | or anyone else I can think of. | or anyone else I can think of. |
1038 | 00:49:18,891 | 00:49:20,182 | With the possible exception | With the possible exception |
1039 | 00:49:20,183 | 00:49:21,974 | of things like box scores, | of things like box scores, |
1040 | 00:49:21,975 | 00:49:24,141 | race results, and stock market tabulations, | race results, and stock market tabulations, |
1041 | 00:49:24,142 | 00:49:27,266 | there is no such thing as objective journalism. | there is no such thing as objective journalism. |
1042 | 00:49:27,267 | 00:49:30,558 | The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms. | The phrase itself is a pompous contradiction in terms. |
1043 | 00:49:30,559 | 00:49:33,182 | It's the built-in blind spots of the objective rules | It's the built-in blind spots of the objective rules |
1044 | 00:49:33,183 | 00:49:35,516 | and dogma that allowed Nixon to slither | and dogma that allowed Nixon to slither |
1045 | 00:49:35,517 | 00:49:38,266 | into the White House in the first place. | into the White House in the first place. |
1046 | 00:49:38,267 | 00:49:40,016 | - Let us be strong. | - Let us be strong. |
1047 | 00:49:40,017 | 00:49:42,682 | Let us be for peace, but let us be for peace | Let us be for peace, but let us be for peace |
1048 | 00:49:42,683 | 00:49:45,141 | through strength and not peace through weakness. | through strength and not peace through weakness. |
1049 | 00:49:45,142 | 00:49:46,724 | That is what we stand for. | That is what we stand for. |
1050 | 00:49:46,725 | 00:49:49,016 | - Richard Nixon represents the dark side | - Richard Nixon represents the dark side |
1051 | 00:49:49,017 | 00:49:50,724 | of the American Dream. | of the American Dream. |
1052 | 00:49:50,725 | 00:49:52,474 | Richard Nixon stands, to me, for everything | Richard Nixon stands, to me, for everything |
1053 | 00:49:52,475 | 00:49:54,890 | that I not only have contempt for but dislike | that I not only have contempt for but dislike |
1054 | 00:49:54,891 | 00:49:56,890 | and think should be stomped out... | and think should be stomped out... |
1055 | 00:49:56,891 | 00:50:00,224 | greed, treachery, stupidity, cupidity, | greed, treachery, stupidity, cupidity, |
1056 | 00:50:00,225 | 00:50:01,974 | positive power of lying, | positive power of lying, |
1057 | 00:50:01,975 | 00:50:04,141 | total contempt for, uh, any sort | total contempt for, uh, any sort |
1058 | 00:50:04,142 | 00:50:07,266 | of human constructive political instinct. | of human constructive political instinct. |
1059 | 00:50:07,267 | 00:50:10,516 | Nixon represents everything that's wrong with this country. | Nixon represents everything that's wrong with this country. |
1060 | 00:50:10,517 | 00:50:11,974 | - Hi. | - Hi. |
1061 | 00:50:11,975 | 00:50:13,391 | - There are only two ways to make it | - There are only two ways to make it |
1062 | 00:50:13,392 | 00:50:15,057 | in big-time politics today. | in big-time politics today. |
1063 | 00:50:15,058 | 00:50:17,057 | One is to come on like a mean dinosaur | One is to come on like a mean dinosaur |
1064 | 00:50:17,058 | 00:50:19,016 | with a high-powered machine that scares the shit | with a high-powered machine that scares the shit |
1065 | 00:50:19,017 | 00:50:21,974 | out of your entrenched opposition, like Nixon. | out of your entrenched opposition, like Nixon. |
1066 | 00:50:21,975 | 00:50:25,474 | And the other is to tap the massive frustrated energies | And the other is to tap the massive frustrated energies |
1067 | 00:50:25,475 | 00:50:27,974 | of a mainly young, disillusioned electorate | of a mainly young, disillusioned electorate |
1068 | 00:50:27,975 | 00:50:30,849 | that has long since abandoned the idea | that has long since abandoned the idea |
1069 | 00:50:30,850 | 00:50:33,016 | that you have a duty to vote. | that you have a duty to vote. |
1070 | 00:50:33,017 | 00:50:35,600 | - Thank you. - Whoo! | - Thank you. - Whoo! |
1071 | 00:50:37,267 | 00:50:39,099 | - There were five people or six people | - There were five people or six people |
1072 | 00:50:39,100 | 00:50:40,849 | covering the McGovern campaign, | covering the McGovern campaign, |
1073 | 00:50:40,850 | 00:50:42,890 | of whom two were from "Rolling Stone" -- | of whom two were from "Rolling Stone" -- |
1074 | 00:50:42,891 | 00:50:45,516 | Hunter and Tim Crouse, who was one of our junior stars, | Hunter and Tim Crouse, who was one of our junior stars, |
1075 | 00:50:45,517 | 00:50:47,266 | and he wanted to be up there and cover the campaign. | and he wanted to be up there and cover the campaign. |
1076 | 00:50:47,267 | 00:50:48,974 | I said, "Sure, go right ahead, | I said, "Sure, go right ahead, |
1077 | 00:50:48,975 | 00:50:51,599 | and you can help Hunter while you're at it." | and you can help Hunter while you're at it." |
1078 | 00:50:51,600 | 00:50:55,682 | - The whole idea of a revolution | - The whole idea of a revolution |
1079 | 00:50:55,683 | 00:50:58,141 | that would bring about freedom from repression, | that would bring about freedom from repression, |
1080 | 00:50:58,142 | 00:51:02,057 | freedom from convention, that would repudiate war, | freedom from convention, that would repudiate war, |
1081 | 00:51:02,058 | 00:51:05,849 | Hunter was very romantic about those things. | Hunter was very romantic about those things. |
1082 | 00:51:05,850 | 00:51:08,266 | Hunter thought that politics | Hunter thought that politics |
1083 | 00:51:08,267 | 00:51:10,558 | could be the vehicle for making the world safe | could be the vehicle for making the world safe |
1084 | 00:51:10,559 | 00:51:14,640 | for the counterculture and for its ideals. | for the counterculture and for its ideals. |
1085 | 00:51:14,641 | 00:51:17,516 | Essentially, he was a man | Essentially, he was a man |
1086 | 00:51:17,517 | 00:51:19,765 | in search of an honest politician, | in search of an honest politician, |
1087 | 00:51:19,766 | 00:51:22,141 | and the only candidate in sight | and the only candidate in sight |
1088 | 00:51:22,142 | 00:51:25,932 | who even vaguely qualified was George McGovern, | who even vaguely qualified was George McGovern, |
1089 | 00:51:25,933 | 00:51:30,308 | and at the same time, Hunter had it in for Muskie, | and at the same time, Hunter had it in for Muskie, |
1090 | 00:51:30,309 | 00:51:33,974 | the man who McGovern was in competition with, | the man who McGovern was in competition with, |
1091 | 00:51:33,975 | 00:51:35,724 | like you couldn't believe. | like you couldn't believe. |
1092 | 00:51:35,725 | 00:51:39,308 | Hunter just could not lay off of Muskie. | Hunter just could not lay off of Muskie. |
1093 | 00:51:39,309 | 00:51:42,558 | - What did you do to Ed Muskie? | - What did you do to Ed Muskie? |
1094 | 00:51:42,559 | 00:51:45,640 | - Nothing, unless he did it to himself. | - Nothing, unless he did it to himself. |
1095 | 00:51:45,641 | 00:51:48,016 | I just helped him along. | I just helped him along. |
1096 | 00:51:48,017 | 00:51:50,516 | Toward the end of the Wisconsin primary race, | Toward the end of the Wisconsin primary race, |
1097 | 00:51:50,517 | 00:51:52,391 | about a week before the vote, | about a week before the vote, |
1098 | 00:51:52,392 | 00:51:54,890 | word leaked out that some of Muskie's top advisors | word leaked out that some of Muskie's top advisors |
1099 | 00:51:54,891 | 00:51:56,890 | had called in a Brazilian doctor | had called in a Brazilian doctor |
1100 | 00:51:56,891 | 00:51:58,558 | who was said to be treating the candidate | who was said to be treating the candidate |
1101 | 00:51:58,559 | 00:52:00,516 | with some kind of strange drug | with some kind of strange drug |
1102 | 00:52:00,517 | 00:52:03,932 | that nobody in the press corps had ever heard of. | that nobody in the press corps had ever heard of. |
1103 | 00:52:03,933 | 00:52:05,932 | I immediately recognized the ibogaine effect | I immediately recognized the ibogaine effect |
1104 | 00:52:05,933 | 00:52:08,182 | from Muskie's tearful breakdown on the flatbed truck | from Muskie's tearful breakdown on the flatbed truck |
1105 | 00:52:08,183 | 00:52:09,765 | in New Hampshire, | in New Hampshire, |
1106 | 00:52:09,766 | 00:52:11,516 | the delusions and altered thinking | the delusions and altered thinking |
1107 | 00:52:11,517 | 00:52:13,558 | that characterized his campaign in Florida, | that characterized his campaign in Florida, |
1108 | 00:52:13,559 | 00:52:16,308 | and finally the condition of total rage | and finally the condition of total rage |
1109 | 00:52:16,309 | 00:52:17,974 | that gripped him in Wisconsin. | that gripped him in Wisconsin. |
1110 | 00:52:17,975 | 00:52:19,599 | It is entirely conceivable, | It is entirely conceivable, |
1111 | 00:52:19,600 | 00:52:21,391 | given the known effects of ibogaine, | given the known effects of ibogaine, |
1112 | 00:52:21,392 | 00:52:23,266 | that Muskie's brain was almost paralyzed | that Muskie's brain was almost paralyzed |
1113 | 00:52:23,267 | 00:52:24,974 | by hallucinations at the time, | by hallucinations at the time, |
1114 | 00:52:24,975 | 00:52:26,765 | that he looked out at the crowd | that he looked out at the crowd |
1115 | 00:52:26,766 | 00:52:28,724 | and saw Gila monsters instead of people. | and saw Gila monsters instead of people. |
1116 | 00:52:28,725 | 00:52:30,391 | We can only speculate on this, | We can only speculate on this, |
1117 | 00:52:30,392 | 00:52:32,349 | because those in a position to know | because those in a position to know |
1118 | 00:52:32,350 | 00:52:34,890 | have flatly refused to comment on rumors concerning | have flatly refused to comment on rumors concerning |
1119 | 00:52:34,891 | 00:52:39,016 | the senator's disastrous experiments with ibogaine. | the senator's disastrous experiments with ibogaine. |
1120 | 00:52:39,017 | 00:52:41,391 | - The rumor began to spread everywhere | - The rumor began to spread everywhere |
1121 | 00:52:41,392 | 00:52:43,516 | among all the people who were covering the campaign | among all the people who were covering the campaign |
1122 | 00:52:43,517 | 00:52:46,057 | that Muskie was, in fact, on this bizarre drug. | that Muskie was, in fact, on this bizarre drug. |
1123 | 00:52:46,058 | 00:52:48,433 | You finally said, well, you made it all up. | You finally said, well, you made it all up. |
1124 | 00:52:48,434 | 00:52:50,141 | - I had to. | - I had to. |
1125 | 00:52:50,142 | 00:52:52,224 | I couldn't believe people took this stuff seriously. | I couldn't believe people took this stuff seriously. |
1126 | 00:52:52,225 | 00:52:55,141 | People really believed that Muskie was eating ibogaine. | People really believed that Muskie was eating ibogaine. |
1127 | 00:52:55,142 | 00:52:56,807 | I never said he was. | I never said he was. |
1128 | 00:52:56,808 | 00:52:58,890 | I said there was a rumor in Milwaukee that he was, | I said there was a rumor in Milwaukee that he was, |
1129 | 00:52:58,891 | 00:53:00,349 | which was true. | which was true. |
1130 | 00:53:00,350 | 00:53:02,266 | And I started the rumor in Milwaukee. | And I started the rumor in Milwaukee. |
1131 | 00:53:02,267 | 00:53:04,224 | And, uh... | And, uh... |
1132 | 00:53:04,225 | 00:53:06,705 | Yeah, if you read it carefully, I'm a very accurate journalist. | Yeah, if you read it carefully, I'm a very accurate journalist. |
1133 | 00:53:14,434 | 00:53:16,266 | - The Miami Democratic Convention | - The Miami Democratic Convention |
1134 | 00:53:16,267 | 00:53:18,433 | was shaping up very fast as one of the most brutal | was shaping up very fast as one of the most brutal |
1135 | 00:53:18,434 | 00:53:21,599 | and degrading animal acts of our time. | and degrading animal acts of our time. |
1136 | 00:53:21,600 | 00:53:23,349 | Jerry Rubin is making frequent appearances | Jerry Rubin is making frequent appearances |
1137 | 00:53:23,350 | 00:53:24,849 | on local TV to warn that... | on local TV to warn that... |
1138 | 00:53:24,850 | 00:53:26,599 | - There will be ten thousand Yippies | - There will be ten thousand Yippies |
1139 | 00:53:26,600 | 00:53:28,516 | marching naked down this street. | marching naked down this street. |
1140 | 00:53:28,517 | 00:53:30,599 | There's gonna be marijuana smoked everywhere, | There's gonna be marijuana smoked everywhere, |
1141 | 00:53:30,600 | 00:53:32,266 | including from the delegates. | including from the delegates. |
1142 | 00:53:32,267 | 00:53:35,558 | - ♪ High, high, you too can be happy ♪ | - ♪ High, high, you too can be happy ♪ |
1143 | 00:53:35,559 | 00:53:36,765 | ♪ La-dee-da ♪ | ♪ La-dee-da ♪ |
1144 | 00:53:40,600 | 00:53:44,182 | - Will the 36th annual convention | - Will the 36th annual convention |
1145 | 00:53:44,183 | 00:53:48,016 | of the Democratic Party please come to order? | of the Democratic Party please come to order? |
1146 | 00:53:48,017 | 00:53:50,016 | - After four hours of listening | - After four hours of listening |
1147 | 00:53:50,017 | 00:53:52,849 | to a seemingly endless parade of shameless dingbats, | to a seemingly endless parade of shameless dingbats, |
1148 | 00:53:52,850 | 00:53:54,474 | about half the delegates in the hall | about half the delegates in the hall |
1149 | 00:53:54,475 | 00:53:56,266 | were beginning to lose control. | were beginning to lose control. |
1150 | 00:53:56,267 | 00:53:57,890 | All over the floor, I saw people | All over the floor, I saw people |
1151 | 00:53:57,891 | 00:53:59,974 | giving in to the lure of booze, | giving in to the lure of booze, |
1152 | 00:53:59,975 | 00:54:01,724 | and in the crowded aisle | and in the crowded aisle |
1153 | 00:54:01,725 | 00:54:04,057 | between the California and Wisconsin delegations, | between the California and Wisconsin delegations, |
1154 | 00:54:04,058 | 00:54:06,807 | a smiling freak with a bottle of liquid THC | a smiling freak with a bottle of liquid THC |
1155 | 00:54:06,808 | 00:54:08,516 | was giving free hits to anyone | was giving free hits to anyone |
1156 | 00:54:08,517 | 00:54:10,640 | who still had the strength to stand. | who still had the strength to stand. |
1157 | 00:54:10,641 | 00:54:12,391 | - It's very good. | - It's very good. |
1158 | 00:54:12,392 | 00:54:14,308 | - Okay. - Before it's too late. | - Okay. - Before it's too late. |
1159 | 00:54:14,309 | 00:54:16,517 | Takes about an hour. | Takes about an hour. |
1160 | 00:54:18,683 | 00:54:20,807 | - McGovern had put together | - McGovern had put together |
1161 | 00:54:20,808 | 00:54:22,807 | a really mind-bending coalition... | a really mind-bending coalition... |
1162 | 00:54:22,808 | 00:54:25,308 | a weird mix of peace freaks and hard hats, | a weird mix of peace freaks and hard hats, |
1163 | 00:54:25,309 | 00:54:26,807 | farmers and film stars, | farmers and film stars, |
1164 | 00:54:26,808 | 00:54:29,182 | along with urban blacks, rural Chicanos, | along with urban blacks, rural Chicanos, |
1165 | 00:54:29,183 | 00:54:30,890 | the youth vote-- | the youth vote-- |
1166 | 00:54:30,891 | 00:54:33,765 | a coalition that could elect almost anybody. | a coalition that could elect almost anybody. |
1167 | 00:54:33,766 | 00:54:36,016 | - You're a director as well as an actor. | - You're a director as well as an actor. |
1168 | 00:54:36,017 | 00:54:38,890 | Do you feel that this change really gets to the young people | Do you feel that this change really gets to the young people |
1169 | 00:54:38,891 | 00:54:40,682 | who in a way are your constituency, | who in a way are your constituency, |
1170 | 00:54:40,683 | 00:54:42,141 | your special followers? | your special followers? |
1171 | 00:54:42,142 | 00:54:43,932 | - The fact that they are involved, | - The fact that they are involved, |
1172 | 00:54:43,933 | 00:54:45,849 | that they are interested and they realize that there is | that they are interested and they realize that there is |
1173 | 00:54:45,850 | 00:54:49,266 | a process with which they can govern their own society. | a process with which they can govern their own society. |
1174 | 00:54:49,267 | 00:54:52,182 | I think that they feel included. | I think that they feel included. |
1175 | 00:54:52,183 | 00:54:53,682 | - By midnight on Monday, | - By midnight on Monday, |
1176 | 00:54:53,683 | 00:54:55,807 | McGovern would get the nomination. | McGovern would get the nomination. |
1177 | 00:54:55,808 | 00:54:58,516 | - From military spending so wasteful | - From military spending so wasteful |
1178 | 00:54:58,517 | 00:55:03,016 | that it weakens our nation, come home, America. | that it weakens our nation, come home, America. |
1179 | 00:55:03,017 | 00:55:07,724 | Come home to the belief that we can seek a newer world. | Come home to the belief that we can seek a newer world. |
1180 | 00:55:17,850 | 00:55:22,224 | - ♪ Glory, glory, hallelujah ♪ | - ♪ Glory, glory, hallelujah ♪ |
1181 | 00:55:22,225 | 00:55:26,724 | ♪ Glory, glory, hallelujah ♪ | ♪ Glory, glory, hallelujah ♪ |
1182 | 00:55:26,725 | 00:55:30,558 | ♪ Glory, glory, hallelujah ♪ | ♪ Glory, glory, hallelujah ♪ |
1183 | 00:55:30,559 | 00:55:35,433 | ♪ His truth is marching on ♪ | ♪ His truth is marching on ♪ |
1184 | 00:55:35,434 | 00:55:39,057 | - Compared to the Democratic Convention five weeks earlier, | - Compared to the Democratic Convention five weeks earlier, |
1185 | 00:55:39,058 | 00:55:40,890 | the Nixon celebration was an ugly, | the Nixon celebration was an ugly, |
1186 | 00:55:40,891 | 00:55:42,474 | low-level trip that hovered somewhere | low-level trip that hovered somewhere |
1187 | 00:55:42,475 | 00:55:44,516 | in that grim indefinable limbo | in that grim indefinable limbo |
1188 | 00:55:44,517 | 00:55:46,558 | between dullness and obscenity, | between dullness and obscenity, |
1189 | 00:55:46,559 | 00:55:48,807 | like a bad pornographic film that you want to walk out on, | like a bad pornographic film that you want to walk out on, |
1190 | 00:55:48,808 | 00:55:51,057 | but sit through anyway and then leave the theater | but sit through anyway and then leave the theater |
1191 | 00:55:51,058 | 00:55:54,057 | feeling depressed and vaguely embarrassed. | feeling depressed and vaguely embarrassed. |
1192 | 00:55:54,058 | 00:55:55,807 | There may not be much difference | There may not be much difference |
1193 | 00:55:55,808 | 00:55:57,849 | between Democrats and Republicans. | between Democrats and Republicans. |
1194 | 00:55:57,850 | 00:55:59,807 | I've made that argument myself, | I've made that argument myself, |
1195 | 00:55:59,808 | 00:56:02,474 | but only a blind geek could miss the difference | but only a blind geek could miss the difference |
1196 | 00:56:02,475 | 00:56:05,640 | between McGovern and Richard Nixon. | between McGovern and Richard Nixon. |
1197 | 00:56:12,766 | 00:56:14,849 | I'm not an easy person to deal with | I'm not an easy person to deal with |
1198 | 00:56:14,850 | 00:56:16,807 | in terms of deadlines, | in terms of deadlines, |
1199 | 00:56:16,808 | 00:56:19,016 | and when I didn't show up for three or four days, | and when I didn't show up for three or four days, |
1200 | 00:56:19,017 | 00:56:20,932 | they decided to do the only logical thing. | they decided to do the only logical thing. |
1201 | 00:56:20,933 | 00:56:22,516 | - Thanks. | - Thanks. |
1202 | 00:56:22,517 | 00:56:24,558 | - One afternoon, they showed up at my door | - One afternoon, they showed up at my door |
1203 | 00:56:24,559 | 00:56:26,849 | with no warning and loaded about 40 pounds of supplies | with no warning and loaded about 40 pounds of supplies |
1204 | 00:56:26,850 | 00:56:29,433 | into the room-- two cases of Mexican beer, | into the room-- two cases of Mexican beer, |
1205 | 00:56:29,434 | 00:56:32,558 | four quarts of gin, a dozen grapefruits, and enough speed | four quarts of gin, a dozen grapefruits, and enough speed |
1206 | 00:56:32,559 | 00:56:36,266 | to alter the outcome of about six Super Bowls. | to alter the outcome of about six Super Bowls. |
1207 | 00:56:36,267 | 00:56:38,141 | Also a big Selectric typewriter, | Also a big Selectric typewriter, |
1208 | 00:56:38,142 | 00:56:40,558 | two reams of paper, and three tape-recorders... | two reams of paper, and three tape-recorders... |
1209 | 00:56:40,559 | 00:56:42,640 | Everything stops, comes to a grinding halt. | Everything stops, comes to a grinding halt. |
1210 | 00:56:42,641 | 00:56:44,682 | Just in case the situation got so desperate | Just in case the situation got so desperate |
1211 | 00:56:44,683 | 00:56:48,640 | that I might finally have to resort to verbal composition. | that I might finally have to resort to verbal composition. |
1212 | 00:57:00,309 | 00:57:03,849 | - ♪ Long as I remember ♪ | - ♪ Long as I remember ♪ |
1213 | 00:57:03,850 | 00:57:07,932 | ♪ The rain's been coming down ♪ | ♪ The rain's been coming down ♪ |
1214 | 00:57:07,933 | 00:57:10,266 | ♪ Clouds of mystery pouring ♪ | ♪ Clouds of mystery pouring ♪ |
1215 | 00:57:10,267 | 00:57:12,682 | - If the current polls are reliable, | - If the current polls are reliable, |
1216 | 00:57:12,683 | 00:57:15,640 | Nixon will be re-elected by a huge majority of Americans | Nixon will be re-elected by a huge majority of Americans |
1217 | 00:57:15,641 | 00:57:17,599 | who feel he is not only more honest | who feel he is not only more honest |
1218 | 00:57:17,600 | 00:57:19,474 | and more trustworthy, | and more trustworthy, |
1219 | 00:57:19,475 | 00:57:22,682 | but also more likely to end the war in Vietnam. | but also more likely to end the war in Vietnam. |
1220 | 00:57:22,683 | 00:57:26,807 | - ♪ And I wonder, still I wonder ♪ | - ♪ And I wonder, still I wonder ♪ |
1221 | 00:57:26,808 | 00:57:30,182 | ♪ Who'll stop the rain ♪ | ♪ Who'll stop the rain ♪ |
1222 | 00:57:30,183 | 00:57:33,308 | - This may be the year when we finally come face-to-face | - This may be the year when we finally come face-to-face |
1223 | 00:57:33,309 | 00:57:36,224 | with ourselves, that we are really just a nation | with ourselves, that we are really just a nation |
1224 | 00:57:36,225 | 00:57:38,682 | of 220 million used-car salesmen | of 220 million used-car salesmen |
1225 | 00:57:38,683 | 00:57:41,349 | with all the money we need to buy guns | with all the money we need to buy guns |
1226 | 00:57:41,350 | 00:57:44,016 | and no qualms about killing anybody else | and no qualms about killing anybody else |
1227 | 00:57:44,017 | 00:57:45,890 | that tries to make us uncomfortable. | that tries to make us uncomfortable. |
1228 | 00:57:45,891 | 00:57:48,182 | - ♪ I watched the tower grow ♪ | - ♪ I watched the tower grow ♪ |
1229 | 00:57:48,183 | 00:57:51,057 | - So far, no states projected for Senator McGovern. | - So far, no states projected for Senator McGovern. |
1230 | 00:57:51,058 | 00:57:53,640 | - This is a considerable sweep | - This is a considerable sweep |
1231 | 00:57:53,641 | 00:57:56,516 | for President Nixon, the definition of a landslide. | for President Nixon, the definition of a landslide. |
1232 | 00:57:56,517 | 00:57:59,974 | - ♪ And I wonder, still I wonder ♪ | - ♪ And I wonder, still I wonder ♪ |
1233 | 00:57:59,975 | 00:58:03,016 | ♪ Who'll stop the rain ♪ | ♪ Who'll stop the rain ♪ |
1234 | 00:58:03,017 | 00:58:05,474 | - Jesus, where will it end? | - Jesus, where will it end? |
1235 | 00:58:05,475 | 00:58:08,558 | How low do you have to stoop in this country | How low do you have to stoop in this country |
1236 | 00:58:08,559 | 00:58:10,266 | to be president? | to be president? |
1237 | 00:58:54,100 | 00:58:58,057 | It is Nixon himself who represents that dark, | It is Nixon himself who represents that dark, |
1238 | 00:58:58,058 | 00:59:00,433 | venal, and incurably violent side | venal, and incurably violent side |
1239 | 00:59:00,434 | 00:59:02,224 | of the American character. | of the American character. |
1240 | 00:59:02,225 | 00:59:05,224 | He speaks for the werewolf in us, the bully, | He speaks for the werewolf in us, the bully, |
1241 | 00:59:05,225 | 00:59:06,807 | the predatory shyster | the predatory shyster |
1242 | 00:59:06,808 | 00:59:09,057 | who turns into something unspeakable, | who turns into something unspeakable, |
1243 | 00:59:09,058 | 00:59:11,682 | full of claws and bleeding string warts | full of claws and bleeding string warts |
1244 | 00:59:11,683 | 00:59:15,849 | on nights when the moon comes too close. | on nights when the moon comes too close. |
1245 | 00:59:15,850 | 00:59:18,308 | - There was something going on with Hunter Thompson | - There was something going on with Hunter Thompson |
1246 | 00:59:18,309 | 00:59:21,266 | that was going to sort of like, you know-- | that was going to sort of like, you know-- |
1247 | 00:59:21,267 | 00:59:23,807 | that was explosive and charismatic, | that was explosive and charismatic, |
1248 | 00:59:23,808 | 00:59:25,724 | and he really wanted to be a lone wolf. | and he really wanted to be a lone wolf. |
1249 | 00:59:25,725 | 00:59:29,433 | He would push me away from him to go out and do my own story. | He would push me away from him to go out and do my own story. |
1250 | 00:59:29,434 | 00:59:32,474 | So, you know, on some level, um, | So, you know, on some level, um, |
1251 | 00:59:32,475 | 00:59:34,682 | you know, the writer and the photographer | you know, the writer and the photographer |
1252 | 00:59:34,683 | 00:59:37,433 | really were pushed into separate directions, you know. | really were pushed into separate directions, you know. |
1253 | 00:59:37,434 | 00:59:39,474 | And--and the photographs did not have to mirror | And--and the photographs did not have to mirror |
1254 | 00:59:39,475 | 00:59:41,141 | what was in the story, but they could-- | what was in the story, but they could-- |
1255 | 00:59:41,142 | 00:59:42,974 | they would always complement the story, | they would always complement the story, |
1256 | 00:59:42,975 | 00:59:45,474 | and they could always add to what, you know, | and they could always add to what, you know, |
1257 | 00:59:45,475 | 00:59:48,599 | what the story was about. | what the story was about. |
1258 | 00:59:48,600 | 00:59:52,057 | Um, San Clemente, | Um, San Clemente, |
1259 | 00:59:52,058 | 00:59:55,349 | pictures from San Clemente. | pictures from San Clemente. |
1260 | 00:59:55,350 | 00:59:57,765 | White House press bus, the restless wind. | White House press bus, the restless wind. |
1261 | 00:59:59,309 | 01:00:02,599 | - These are the pictures from leaving. | - These are the pictures from leaving. |
1262 | 01:00:02,600 | 01:00:04,141 | - When he resigned, | - When he resigned, |
1263 | 01:00:04,142 | 01:00:06,016 | we were kind of stuck with nothing when Hunter | we were kind of stuck with nothing when Hunter |
1264 | 01:00:06,017 | 01:00:08,224 | didn't write anything, and you had this portfolio. | didn't write anything, and you had this portfolio. |
1265 | 01:00:08,225 | 01:00:12,099 | So our contribution to the coverage of his resignation-- | So our contribution to the coverage of his resignation-- |
1266 | 01:00:12,100 | 01:00:13,558 | - You were on deadline. | - You were on deadline. |
1267 | 01:00:13,559 | 01:00:15,141 | You were leaving all those pages for Hunter, | You were leaving all those pages for Hunter, |
1268 | 01:00:15,142 | 01:00:17,682 | and you filled it up with these pictures, | and you filled it up with these pictures, |
1269 | 01:00:17,683 | 01:00:20,682 | which was unbelievable to take these pictures that-- | which was unbelievable to take these pictures that-- |
1270 | 01:00:20,683 | 01:00:23,932 | that needed space, that needed to go big, | that needed space, that needed to go big, |
1271 | 01:00:23,933 | 01:00:27,141 | and you created a classic photo spread. | and you created a classic photo spread. |
1272 | 01:00:27,142 | 01:00:28,391 | - Mm-hmm. | - Mm-hmm. |
1273 | 01:00:28,392 | 01:00:30,558 | Who will ever forget that image? | Who will ever forget that image? |
1274 | 01:00:30,559 | 01:00:32,683 | Unbelievable. | Unbelievable. |
1275 | 01:00:39,350 | 01:00:41,057 | - It was timely, because we could do this-- | - It was timely, because we could do this-- |
1276 | 01:00:41,058 | 01:00:42,807 | we could-- one, I didn't think-- | we could-- one, I didn't think-- |
1277 | 01:00:42,808 | 01:00:44,516 | one, I didn't think we had a cover picture. | one, I didn't think we had a cover picture. |
1278 | 01:00:44,517 | 01:00:46,516 | We had an old hero picture, right? | We had an old hero picture, right? |
1279 | 01:00:46,517 | 01:00:48,474 | I'm not keen on these. | I'm not keen on these. |
1280 | 01:00:48,475 | 01:00:50,099 | - So we are choosing it on photos rather than story? | - So we are choosing it on photos rather than story? |
1281 | 01:00:50,100 | 01:00:52,099 | - No, I happen to think that the cover idea | - No, I happen to think that the cover idea |
1282 | 01:00:52,100 | 01:00:53,765 | that we've evolved now, you now, | that we've evolved now, you now, |
1283 | 01:00:53,766 | 01:00:56,682 | which is shooting against an all-white seamless, | which is shooting against an all-white seamless, |
1284 | 01:00:56,683 | 01:00:58,308 | is fantastic, and we're gon-- | is fantastic, and we're gon-- |
1285 | 01:00:58,309 | 01:00:59,932 | I love it. It looks beautiful. | I love it. It looks beautiful. |
1286 | 01:00:59,933 | 01:01:01,765 | - You don't necessarily have to always shoot | - You don't necessarily have to always shoot |
1287 | 01:01:01,766 | 01:01:04,640 | on white, because as long as it's a consistent style-- | on white, because as long as it's a consistent style-- |
1288 | 01:01:04,641 | 01:01:06,349 | - Not a matter of subject matter | - Not a matter of subject matter |
1289 | 01:01:06,350 | 01:01:08,141 | or whether you use white backgrounds on the cover, | or whether you use white backgrounds on the cover, |
1290 | 01:01:08,142 | 01:01:09,890 | black backgrounds or red borders or whatever, | black backgrounds or red borders or whatever, |
1291 | 01:01:09,891 | 01:01:11,724 | there are only X number of rock and roll covers | there are only X number of rock and roll covers |
1292 | 01:01:11,725 | 01:01:13,640 | you can do anymore, and it's getting less and less-- | you can do anymore, and it's getting less and less-- |
1293 | 01:01:13,641 | 01:01:15,016 | and it's not the nature of us. | and it's not the nature of us. |
1294 | 01:01:15,017 | 01:01:16,558 | It's the nature of the industry, | It's the nature of the industry, |
1295 | 01:01:16,559 | 01:01:18,224 | and it's going to continue that way. | and it's going to continue that way. |
1296 | 01:01:18,225 | 01:01:20,890 | - Uh, yeah. Okay, next. | - Uh, yeah. Okay, next. |
1297 | 01:01:26,559 | 01:01:28,182 | - Over yellow. | - Over yellow. |
1298 | 01:01:28,183 | 01:01:30,099 | - "Rolling Stone" had already evolved | - "Rolling Stone" had already evolved |
1299 | 01:01:30,100 | 01:01:33,724 | its own culture, and I wasn't a joiner. | its own culture, and I wasn't a joiner. |
1300 | 01:01:33,725 | 01:01:37,433 | - ♪ Oh, papa don't take no mess ♪ | - ♪ Oh, papa don't take no mess ♪ |
1301 | 01:01:37,434 | 01:01:41,141 | ♪ Papa don't take no mess ♪ | ♪ Papa don't take no mess ♪ |
1302 | 01:01:41,142 | 01:01:43,682 | - I had other plans for myself. | - I had other plans for myself. |
1303 | 01:01:43,683 | 01:01:48,974 | So I ran my own page in the record reviews. | So I ran my own page in the record reviews. |
1304 | 01:01:48,975 | 01:01:51,599 | Getting a good review in "Rolling Stone" | Getting a good review in "Rolling Stone" |
1305 | 01:01:51,600 | 01:01:55,433 | became something to strive for. | became something to strive for. |
1306 | 01:01:57,142 | 01:02:00,516 | What I liked most and what I wrote about most | What I liked most and what I wrote about most |
1307 | 01:02:00,517 | 01:02:03,057 | was black music. | was black music. |
1308 | 01:02:03,058 | 01:02:07,599 | My early articles were about B.B. King, | My early articles were about B.B. King, |
1309 | 01:02:07,600 | 01:02:10,474 | Aretha Franklin, Sam & Dave, | Aretha Franklin, Sam & Dave, |
1310 | 01:02:10,475 | 01:02:14,016 | Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett. | Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett. |
1311 | 01:02:14,017 | 01:02:17,974 | At first some of my things smelled a little too much | At first some of my things smelled a little too much |
1312 | 01:02:17,975 | 01:02:21,474 | like college term papers. | like college term papers. |
1313 | 01:02:21,475 | 01:02:24,308 | I was told by Jann, "You got to loosen up here." | I was told by Jann, "You got to loosen up here." |
1314 | 01:02:24,309 | 01:02:27,391 | - ♪ Papa don't, papa don't, papa don't, papa don't ♪ | - ♪ Papa don't, papa don't, papa don't, papa don't ♪ |
1315 | 01:02:27,392 | 01:02:29,433 | ♪ Papa don't, papa don't ♪ | ♪ Papa don't, papa don't ♪ |
1316 | 01:02:29,434 | 01:02:32,890 | ♪ Papa don't take no mess ♪ | ♪ Papa don't take no mess ♪ |
1317 | 01:02:32,891 | 01:02:35,807 | ♪ Papa don't take no mess ♪ | ♪ Papa don't take no mess ♪ |
1318 | 01:02:35,808 | 01:02:38,682 | - Rock is far more popular than ever before, | - Rock is far more popular than ever before, |
1319 | 01:02:38,683 | 01:02:41,890 | but it appears to have much less social impact. | but it appears to have much less social impact. |
1320 | 01:02:41,891 | 01:02:44,391 | It is broader than it was ten years ago, | It is broader than it was ten years ago, |
1321 | 01:02:44,392 | 01:02:46,016 | making unprecedented use | making unprecedented use |
1322 | 01:02:46,017 | 01:02:48,349 | of country, jazz, and straight pop. | of country, jazz, and straight pop. |
1323 | 01:02:48,350 | 01:02:51,765 | And yet to my ears, it sounds ever more homogeneous. | And yet to my ears, it sounds ever more homogeneous. |
1324 | 01:02:51,766 | 01:02:53,974 | Rock's single biggest lack today | Rock's single biggest lack today |
1325 | 01:02:53,975 | 01:02:56,433 | is a failure of imagination. | is a failure of imagination. |
1326 | 01:02:56,434 | 01:02:59,849 | - ♪ We're an American band ♪ | - ♪ We're an American band ♪ |
1327 | 01:02:59,850 | 01:03:02,266 | ♪ We're an American band ♪ | ♪ We're an American band ♪ |
1328 | 01:03:02,267 | 01:03:03,724 | ♪ Whoo ♪ | ♪ Whoo ♪ |
1329 | 01:03:03,725 | 01:03:06,182 | ♪ We're an American band ♪ | ♪ We're an American band ♪ |
1330 | 01:03:06,183 | 01:03:07,682 | ♪ Whoo ♪ | ♪ Whoo ♪ |
1331 | 01:03:10,350 | 01:03:12,099 | - Tonight there's someone I can write of | - Tonight there's someone I can write of |
1332 | 01:03:12,100 | 01:03:13,640 | the way I used to write, | the way I used to write, |
1333 | 01:03:13,641 | 01:03:15,974 | without reservation of any kind. | without reservation of any kind. |
1334 | 01:03:15,975 | 01:03:18,349 | Last Thursday at the Harvard Square Theater, | Last Thursday at the Harvard Square Theater, |
1335 | 01:03:18,350 | 01:03:22,016 | I saw my rock and roll past flash before my eyes. | I saw my rock and roll past flash before my eyes. |
1336 | 01:03:22,017 | 01:03:24,057 | - One, two, three, go! | - One, two, three, go! |
1337 | 01:03:30,850 | 01:03:32,391 | Break it down! | Break it down! |
1338 | 01:03:32,392 | 01:03:34,224 | - And I saw something else. | - And I saw something else. |
1339 | 01:03:34,225 | 01:03:36,391 | I saw rock and roll future. | I saw rock and roll future. |
1340 | 01:03:36,392 | 01:03:39,433 | And its name is Bruce Springsteen. | And its name is Bruce Springsteen. |
1341 | 01:03:39,434 | 01:03:41,224 | - ♪ Teardrops on the city ♪ | - ♪ Teardrops on the city ♪ |
1342 | 01:03:41,225 | 01:03:45,057 | ♪ Bad Scooter searching for his groove ♪ | ♪ Bad Scooter searching for his groove ♪ |
1343 | 01:03:46,683 | 01:03:48,932 | ♪ Seem like the whole world's walking pretty ♪ | ♪ Seem like the whole world's walking pretty ♪ |
1344 | 01:03:48,933 | 01:03:52,474 | ♪ And you can't find the room to move ♪ | ♪ And you can't find the room to move ♪ |
1345 | 01:03:52,475 | 01:03:54,640 | Clarence! | Clarence! |
1346 | 01:03:54,641 | 01:03:58,224 | ♪ Well, everybody better move over, that's all ♪ | ♪ Well, everybody better move over, that's all ♪ |
1347 | 01:03:58,225 | 01:04:00,182 | ♪ 'Cause I'm running on the bad side ♪ | ♪ 'Cause I'm running on the bad side ♪ |
1348 | 01:04:00,183 | 01:04:03,391 | ♪ And I got my back to the wall, man ♪ | ♪ And I got my back to the wall, man ♪ |
1349 | 01:04:03,392 | 01:04:06,391 | - ♪ Tenth Avenue freeze-out ♪ | - ♪ Tenth Avenue freeze-out ♪ |
1350 | 01:04:06,392 | 01:04:10,182 | - Hit it! - ♪ Tenth Avenue freeze-out ♪ | - Hit it! - ♪ Tenth Avenue freeze-out ♪ |
1351 | 01:04:10,183 | 01:04:12,558 | - ♪ I was stranded out in the jungle ♪ | - ♪ I was stranded out in the jungle ♪ |
1352 | 01:04:12,559 | 01:04:15,558 | ♪ Taking all the heat that was given ♪ | ♪ Taking all the heat that was given ♪ |
1353 | 01:04:17,725 | 01:04:20,224 | ♪ Yeah, the night is dark, and the sidewalk's bright ♪ | ♪ Yeah, the night is dark, and the sidewalk's bright ♪ |
1354 | 01:04:20,225 | 01:04:23,099 | ♪ And lined with the light of the living ♪ | ♪ And lined with the light of the living ♪ |
1355 | 01:04:25,267 | 01:04:28,932 | ♪ From a tenement window, a transistor blasts ♪ | ♪ From a tenement window, a transistor blasts ♪ |
1356 | 01:04:28,933 | 01:04:30,724 | ♪ Turn around the corner ♪ | ♪ Turn around the corner ♪ |
1357 | 01:04:30,725 | 01:04:32,890 | ♪ Things got real quiet real fast ♪ | ♪ Things got real quiet real fast ♪ |
1358 | 01:04:32,891 | 01:04:35,182 | ♪ I walked into a... ♪ - ♪ Tenth Avenue freeze-out ♪ | ♪ I walked into a... ♪ - ♪ Tenth Avenue freeze-out ♪ |
1359 | 01:04:35,183 | 01:04:36,932 | - Springsteen does it all. | - Springsteen does it all. |
1360 | 01:04:36,933 | 01:04:39,391 | He's a rock and roll punk, Latin street poet, | He's a rock and roll punk, Latin street poet, |
1361 | 01:04:39,392 | 01:04:43,182 | a ballet dancer, an actor, a joker, bar bandleader, | a ballet dancer, an actor, a joker, bar bandleader, |
1362 | 01:04:43,183 | 01:04:46,474 | hot-shit rhythm guitar player, extraordinary singer, | hot-shit rhythm guitar player, extraordinary singer, |
1363 | 01:04:46,475 | 01:04:49,433 | and a truly great rock and roll composer. | and a truly great rock and roll composer. |
1364 | 01:04:49,434 | 01:04:51,433 | He leads a band like he's been doing it forever. | He leads a band like he's been doing it forever. |
1365 | 01:04:51,434 | 01:04:53,349 | - ♪ I'm talking about a Tenth ♪ | - ♪ I'm talking about a Tenth ♪ |
1366 | 01:04:53,350 | 01:04:55,516 | - I racked my brains but simply can't think | - I racked my brains but simply can't think |
1367 | 01:04:55,517 | 01:04:59,474 | of a white artist who does so many things so superbly. | of a white artist who does so many things so superbly. |
1368 | 01:04:59,475 | 01:05:01,474 | - ♪ I'm talking about a Tenth ♪ | - ♪ I'm talking about a Tenth ♪ |
1369 | 01:05:01,475 | 01:05:04,474 | - ♪ Tenth Avenue freeze-out ♪ - ♪ Freeze-out, whoo ♪ | - ♪ Tenth Avenue freeze-out ♪ - ♪ Freeze-out, whoo ♪ |
1370 | 01:05:17,309 | 01:05:19,391 | Yeah! | Yeah! |
1371 | 01:05:19,392 | 01:05:21,849 | "Rolling Stone" I was very tuned into | "Rolling Stone" I was very tuned into |
1372 | 01:05:21,850 | 01:05:23,640 | from probably the first issue, | from probably the first issue, |
1373 | 01:05:23,641 | 01:05:26,433 | because that would have come out when I was 17. | because that would have come out when I was 17. |
1374 | 01:05:26,434 | 01:05:29,974 | It was like, "Oh, my God, there's other weirdos like me | It was like, "Oh, my God, there's other weirdos like me |
1375 | 01:05:29,975 | 01:05:32,807 | "out there that are really taking this stuff | "out there that are really taking this stuff |
1376 | 01:05:32,808 | 01:05:35,308 | very seriously." | very seriously." |
1377 | 01:05:35,309 | 01:05:37,308 | ♪ A Tenth ♪ | ♪ A Tenth ♪ |
1378 | 01:05:41,017 | 01:05:44,182 | In '74, we were two records in. | In '74, we were two records in. |
1379 | 01:05:44,183 | 01:05:46,349 | I had a three-record deal. | I had a three-record deal. |
1380 | 01:05:46,350 | 01:05:48,433 | Two records hadn't done well. | Two records hadn't done well. |
1381 | 01:05:48,434 | 01:05:51,433 | Everybody who had hired me had moved on, | Everybody who had hired me had moved on, |
1382 | 01:05:51,434 | 01:05:53,224 | out of the record company. | out of the record company. |
1383 | 01:05:53,225 | 01:05:55,682 | One, two, three, four... | One, two, three, four... |
1384 | 01:05:57,600 | 01:06:00,682 | Our production team was failing at that moment. | Our production team was failing at that moment. |
1385 | 01:06:00,683 | 01:06:03,099 | We couldn't record what I knew were good songs. | We couldn't record what I knew were good songs. |
1386 | 01:06:03,100 | 01:06:04,849 | We'd already been playing them live. | We'd already been playing them live. |
1387 | 01:06:04,850 | 01:06:06,558 | "Jungleland," we already had. | "Jungleland," we already had. |
1388 | 01:06:06,559 | 01:06:08,765 | I think we had "Thunder Road," versions of it. | I think we had "Thunder Road," versions of it. |
1389 | 01:06:08,766 | 01:06:12,182 | But we were failing to be able to get these down on record. | But we were failing to be able to get these down on record. |
1390 | 01:06:12,183 | 01:06:14,308 | So I went back to a night in Boston | So I went back to a night in Boston |
1391 | 01:06:14,309 | 01:06:17,682 | when I read one of Jon's reviews. | when I read one of Jon's reviews. |
1392 | 01:06:17,683 | 01:06:20,433 | I said, "Okay, there's information here | I said, "Okay, there's information here |
1393 | 01:06:20,434 | 01:06:23,516 | "that I'm not getting from the people around me. | "that I'm not getting from the people around me. |
1394 | 01:06:23,517 | 01:06:26,349 | "This seems smart. | "This seems smart. |
1395 | 01:06:26,350 | 01:06:28,391 | I need to be closer to this guy." | I need to be closer to this guy." |
1396 | 01:06:28,392 | 01:06:31,057 | And we started up a friendship. | And we started up a friendship. |
1397 | 01:06:31,058 | 01:06:34,807 | - Bruce was just one of those great connections | - Bruce was just one of those great connections |
1398 | 01:06:34,808 | 01:06:37,765 | you make in life that there's nothing like it. | you make in life that there's nothing like it. |
1399 | 01:06:37,766 | 01:06:40,765 | - ♪ The Rangers had a homecoming ♪ | - ♪ The Rangers had a homecoming ♪ |
1400 | 01:06:40,766 | 01:06:42,807 | One evening, I brought him into the studio, | One evening, I brought him into the studio, |
1401 | 01:06:42,808 | 01:06:45,391 | and he just observed what we were doing. | and he just observed what we were doing. |
1402 | 01:06:45,392 | 01:06:48,849 | At the end of the night, we went and had a bite somewhere, | At the end of the night, we went and had a bite somewhere, |
1403 | 01:06:48,850 | 01:06:52,057 | and he said, "Well, you know, if there's anything | and he said, "Well, you know, if there's anything |
1404 | 01:06:52,058 | 01:06:54,391 | that you think I can do, let me know." | that you think I can do, let me know." |
1405 | 01:06:54,392 | 01:06:56,057 | ♪ Sitting on the hood of a Dodge ♪ | ♪ Sitting on the hood of a Dodge ♪ |
1406 | 01:06:56,058 | 01:06:58,141 | - My strength was in music | - My strength was in music |
1407 | 01:06:58,142 | 01:07:03,433 | and some natural ability to edit and arrange. | and some natural ability to edit and arrange. |
1408 | 01:07:03,434 | 01:07:06,682 | I think a lot of what I did at "Rolling Stone" prepared me | I think a lot of what I did at "Rolling Stone" prepared me |
1409 | 01:07:06,683 | 01:07:11,932 | in odd ways for the work that I wound up doing with Bruce. | in odd ways for the work that I wound up doing with Bruce. |
1410 | 01:07:13,933 | 01:07:17,057 | - ♪ Screen door slams ♪ | - ♪ Screen door slams ♪ |
1411 | 01:07:17,058 | 01:07:20,932 | ♪ Mary's dress waves ♪ | ♪ Mary's dress waves ♪ |
1412 | 01:07:20,933 | 01:07:24,849 | ♪ Like a vision, she dances across the porch ♪ | ♪ Like a vision, she dances across the porch ♪ |
1413 | 01:07:24,850 | 01:07:28,599 | ♪ As the radio plays ♪ | ♪ As the radio plays ♪ |
1414 | 01:07:28,600 | 01:07:32,266 | ♪ Roy Orbison singing for the lonely ♪ | ♪ Roy Orbison singing for the lonely ♪ |
1415 | 01:07:32,267 | 01:07:36,266 | ♪ Hey, that's me, and I want you only ♪ | ♪ Hey, that's me, and I want you only ♪ |
1416 | 01:07:36,267 | 01:07:38,516 | ♪ Don't turn me home again ♪ | ♪ Don't turn me home again ♪ |
1417 | 01:07:38,517 | 01:07:43,516 | ♪ I just can't face myself alone again ♪ | ♪ I just can't face myself alone again ♪ |
1418 | 01:07:43,517 | 01:07:47,016 | The earliest versions of the material on "Born to Run," | The earliest versions of the material on "Born to Run," |
1419 | 01:07:47,017 | 01:07:48,765 | the arrangement was longer, | the arrangement was longer, |
1420 | 01:07:48,766 | 01:07:51,474 | and it went through some rhythm changes | and it went through some rhythm changes |
1421 | 01:07:51,475 | 01:07:54,016 | and different musical changes. | and different musical changes. |
1422 | 01:07:54,017 | 01:07:57,558 | ♪ There were ghosts in the eyes ♪ | ♪ There were ghosts in the eyes ♪ |
1423 | 01:07:57,559 | 01:08:01,640 | ♪ Of all the boys you sent away ♪ | ♪ Of all the boys you sent away ♪ |
1424 | 01:08:01,641 | 01:08:04,266 | ♪ They haunt this dusty beach road ♪ | ♪ They haunt this dusty beach road ♪ |
1425 | 01:08:04,267 | 01:08:09,599 | ♪ In the skeleton frames of burned-out Chevrolets ♪ | ♪ In the skeleton frames of burned-out Chevrolets ♪ |
1426 | 01:08:09,600 | 01:08:12,974 | ♪ They scream your name at night in the street ♪ | ♪ They scream your name at night in the street ♪ |
1427 | 01:08:12,975 | 01:08:17,141 | ♪ Your graduation gown lies in rags at their feet ♪ | ♪ Your graduation gown lies in rags at their feet ♪ |
1428 | 01:08:17,142 | 01:08:18,974 | One of the things that Jon did | One of the things that Jon did |
1429 | 01:08:18,975 | 01:08:20,807 | was he was an editor. | was he was an editor. |
1430 | 01:08:20,808 | 01:08:24,849 | And we were looking for a more streamlined sound | And we were looking for a more streamlined sound |
1431 | 01:08:24,850 | 01:08:27,724 | that felt like a direct punch to the gut, | that felt like a direct punch to the gut, |
1432 | 01:08:27,725 | 01:08:29,391 | to take what I was doing | to take what I was doing |
1433 | 01:08:29,392 | 01:08:33,391 | and melt it down into this powerful engine. | and melt it down into this powerful engine. |
1434 | 01:08:33,392 | 01:08:36,182 | ♪ Climb in ♪ | ♪ Climb in ♪ |
1435 | 01:08:36,183 | 01:08:38,182 | ♪ It's a town full of losers ♪ | ♪ It's a town full of losers ♪ |
1436 | 01:08:38,183 | 01:08:41,849 | ♪ I'm pulling out of here to win ♪ | ♪ I'm pulling out of here to win ♪ |
1437 | 01:08:56,975 | 01:09:00,099 | - I got the job producing | - I got the job producing |
1438 | 01:09:00,100 | 01:09:03,474 | what became Bruce's breakthrough album, | what became Bruce's breakthrough album, |
1439 | 01:09:03,475 | 01:09:06,349 | "Born to Run." | "Born to Run." |
1440 | 01:09:06,350 | 01:09:10,724 | And I realized that that's what I wanted to be now, | And I realized that that's what I wanted to be now, |
1441 | 01:09:10,725 | 01:09:12,890 | a record producer. | a record producer. |
1442 | 01:09:12,891 | 01:09:16,558 | It was time to let go of the magazine. | It was time to let go of the magazine. |
1443 | 01:09:23,350 | 01:09:27,849 | - There was a generation that started the magazine | - There was a generation that started the magazine |
1444 | 01:09:27,850 | 01:09:31,724 | but had grown a little bit away | but had grown a little bit away |
1445 | 01:09:31,725 | 01:09:34,974 | from what it had become-- what rock had become. | from what it had become-- what rock had become. |
1446 | 01:09:50,933 | 01:09:53,974 | - By the mid '70s, there were all these other bands. | - By the mid '70s, there were all these other bands. |
1447 | 01:09:53,975 | 01:09:57,516 | You know, who wants to write about Deep Purple? | You know, who wants to write about Deep Purple? |
1448 | 01:09:57,517 | 01:09:58,932 | And I would be like, | And I would be like, |
1449 | 01:09:58,933 | 01:10:00,765 | "I will write about Deep Purple. | "I will write about Deep Purple. |
1450 | 01:10:00,766 | 01:10:05,099 | "In fact, I will spend weeks writing about Deep Purple. | "In fact, I will spend weeks writing about Deep Purple. |
1451 | 01:10:05,100 | 01:10:08,224 | I will--I will be your Deep Purple man." | I will--I will be your Deep Purple man." |
1452 | 01:10:08,225 | 01:10:13,266 | - ♪ Smoke on the water ♪ | - ♪ Smoke on the water ♪ |
1453 | 01:10:13,267 | 01:10:16,932 | ♪ Fire in the sky ♪ | ♪ Fire in the sky ♪ |
1454 | 01:10:16,933 | 01:10:18,724 | ♪ Smoke on the water ♪ | ♪ Smoke on the water ♪ |
1455 | 01:10:18,725 | 01:10:20,474 | - I was the guy that they liked to say | - I was the guy that they liked to say |
1456 | 01:10:20,475 | 01:10:22,099 | took out the garbage. | took out the garbage. |
1457 | 01:10:22,100 | 01:10:23,849 | To them, it was the garbage, you know. | To them, it was the garbage, you know. |
1458 | 01:10:23,850 | 01:10:25,433 | For me, it was heaven. | For me, it was heaven. |
1459 | 01:10:34,641 | 01:10:36,849 | To ask Jethro Tull about the flute | To ask Jethro Tull about the flute |
1460 | 01:10:36,850 | 01:10:39,807 | and Ritchie Blackmore about his guitar sound... | and Ritchie Blackmore about his guitar sound... |
1461 | 01:10:42,350 | 01:10:46,349 | That was me, and I was so happy to do that. | That was me, and I was so happy to do that. |
1462 | 01:10:46,350 | 01:10:48,974 | - ♪ Gonna lose my way tomorrow ♪ | - ♪ Gonna lose my way tomorrow ♪ |
1463 | 01:10:48,975 | 01:10:51,433 | ♪ Gonna give away my car ♪ | ♪ Gonna give away my car ♪ |
1464 | 01:10:51,434 | 01:10:53,974 | ♪ I'd take you along with me ♪ | ♪ I'd take you along with me ♪ |
1465 | 01:10:53,975 | 01:10:56,474 | ♪ But you would not go so far ♪ | ♪ But you would not go so far ♪ |
1466 | 01:10:56,475 | 01:10:59,266 | ♪ Don't see what I do not want to see ♪ | ♪ Don't see what I do not want to see ♪ |
1467 | 01:10:59,267 | 01:11:01,849 | ♪ You don't hear what I don't say ♪ | ♪ You don't hear what I don't say ♪ |
1468 | 01:11:01,850 | 01:11:03,682 | ♪ Won't be what I don't want to be ♪ | ♪ Won't be what I don't want to be ♪ |
1469 | 01:11:03,683 | 01:11:07,266 | - I always felt, because I was a freelancer, | - I always felt, because I was a freelancer, |
1470 | 01:11:07,267 | 01:11:09,141 | bands that had a problem with "Rolling Stone" | bands that had a problem with "Rolling Stone" |
1471 | 01:11:09,142 | 01:11:12,016 | for one reason or another, I could always say, | for one reason or another, I could always say, |
1472 | 01:11:12,017 | 01:11:17,016 | "Well, I work for them, but I'm not the magazine." | "Well, I work for them, but I'm not the magazine." |
1473 | 01:11:17,017 | 01:11:19,849 | One of the bands that really had a problem | One of the bands that really had a problem |
1474 | 01:11:19,850 | 01:11:21,807 | with "Rolling Stone" was Led Zeppelin. | with "Rolling Stone" was Led Zeppelin. |
1475 | 01:11:21,808 | 01:11:26,807 | - ♪ Oh, I ♪ | - ♪ Oh, I ♪ |
1476 | 01:11:26,808 | 01:11:30,224 | ♪ I can't quit you ♪ | ♪ I can't quit you ♪ |
1477 | 01:11:30,225 | 01:11:32,849 | ♪ Baby ♪ | ♪ Baby ♪ |
1478 | 01:11:35,392 | 01:11:40,807 | ♪ And I think I'm gonna put you down ♪ | ♪ And I think I'm gonna put you down ♪ |
1479 | 01:11:40,808 | 01:11:43,807 | ♪ For a little while ♪ | ♪ For a little while ♪ |
1480 | 01:11:43,808 | 01:11:48,391 | - Their first album was trashed. | - Their first album was trashed. |
1481 | 01:11:48,392 | 01:11:51,433 | - ♪ I can't quit you, baby ♪ | - ♪ I can't quit you, baby ♪ |
1482 | 01:11:51,434 | 01:11:53,849 | - As they started to become huge, | - As they started to become huge, |
1483 | 01:11:53,850 | 01:11:57,474 | they did not want to give "Rolling Stone" coverage. | they did not want to give "Rolling Stone" coverage. |
1484 | 01:11:57,475 | 01:12:02,724 | So my job was to talk them into "Rolling Stone." | So my job was to talk them into "Rolling Stone." |
1485 | 01:12:02,725 | 01:12:04,890 | It took three weeks. | It took three weeks. |
1486 | 01:12:06,725 | 01:12:08,516 | - Although Led Zeppelin has managed | - Although Led Zeppelin has managed |
1487 | 01:12:08,517 | 01:12:10,433 | to sell more than a million units apiece | to sell more than a million units apiece |
1488 | 01:12:10,434 | 01:12:13,016 | on all five of its albums and is currently working | on all five of its albums and is currently working |
1489 | 01:12:13,017 | 01:12:14,807 | a U.S. tour expected to be | a U.S. tour expected to be |
1490 | 01:12:14,808 | 01:12:17,974 | the largest-grossing undertaking in rock history, | the largest-grossing undertaking in rock history, |
1491 | 01:12:17,975 | 01:12:20,558 | the band has been continually kicked, | the band has been continually kicked, |
1492 | 01:12:20,559 | 01:12:23,682 | shoved, pummeled, and kneed in the groin | shoved, pummeled, and kneed in the groin |
1493 | 01:12:23,683 | 01:12:25,724 | by critics of all stripes. | by critics of all stripes. |
1494 | 01:12:25,725 | 01:12:28,807 | - I really put my heart into this piece | - I really put my heart into this piece |
1495 | 01:12:28,808 | 01:12:30,974 | on Led Zeppelin. | on Led Zeppelin. |
1496 | 01:12:30,975 | 01:12:34,640 | And I sent it in, and I was expecting the call, | And I sent it in, and I was expecting the call, |
1497 | 01:12:34,641 | 01:12:36,724 | "Way to go!" | "Way to go!" |
1498 | 01:12:39,267 | 01:12:41,724 | The call I got was from Ben Fong-Torres, | The call I got was from Ben Fong-Torres, |
1499 | 01:12:41,725 | 01:12:43,724 | saying, "Jann wants to see you." | saying, "Jann wants to see you." |
1500 | 01:12:43,725 | 01:12:45,516 | And I was like, "Well, this is great!" | And I was like, "Well, this is great!" |
1501 | 01:12:45,517 | 01:12:47,640 | And he's like, "Come up to San Francisco. | And he's like, "Come up to San Francisco. |
1502 | 01:12:47,641 | 01:12:50,182 | "I'll pick you up and take you to the 'Rolling Stone' office. | "I'll pick you up and take you to the 'Rolling Stone' office. |
1503 | 01:12:50,183 | 01:12:54,057 | And you should know this is a very bad day." | And you should know this is a very bad day." |
1504 | 01:13:01,933 | 01:13:06,474 | "Ralph J. Gleason, Jann's mentor, died, | "Ralph J. Gleason, Jann's mentor, died, |
1505 | 01:13:06,475 | 01:13:08,182 | and he's very upset." | and he's very upset." |
1506 | 01:13:11,434 | 01:13:13,266 | I go in there, and they say, | I go in there, and they say, |
1507 | 01:13:13,267 | 01:13:16,224 | "Jann, the kid from the Led Zeppelin story is here." | "Jann, the kid from the Led Zeppelin story is here." |
1508 | 01:13:16,225 | 01:13:19,016 | And he says, "Bring him in." | And he says, "Bring him in." |
1509 | 01:13:19,017 | 01:13:23,057 | - That was a very tough, moving day for me. | - That was a very tough, moving day for me. |
1510 | 01:13:23,058 | 01:13:27,016 | And into all that walked young Cameron. | And into all that walked young Cameron. |
1511 | 01:13:27,017 | 01:13:29,849 | - There in the corner is Jann | - There in the corner is Jann |
1512 | 01:13:29,850 | 01:13:32,599 | with a half-finished bottle of vodka | with a half-finished bottle of vodka |
1513 | 01:13:32,600 | 01:13:36,765 | sitting in front of him, and he's been crying. | sitting in front of him, and he's been crying. |
1514 | 01:13:36,766 | 01:13:38,849 | And he said, "I want to tell you | And he said, "I want to tell you |
1515 | 01:13:38,850 | 01:13:40,474 | about your Led Zeppelin story." | about your Led Zeppelin story." |
1516 | 01:13:40,475 | 01:13:42,224 | He goes, "Thank you. | He goes, "Thank you. |
1517 | 01:13:42,225 | 01:13:46,474 | We're gonna run it, but you failed." | We're gonna run it, but you failed." |
1518 | 01:13:46,475 | 01:13:48,849 | And I said, | And I said, |
1519 | 01:13:48,850 | 01:13:50,474 | "How did I fail?" | "How did I fail?" |
1520 | 01:13:50,475 | 01:13:52,308 | - You know, for a 16-year-old kid, | - You know, for a 16-year-old kid, |
1521 | 01:13:52,309 | 01:13:54,599 | it was a great story, but for a professional journalist, | it was a great story, but for a professional journalist, |
1522 | 01:13:54,600 | 01:13:56,474 | he was way soft on the characters | he was way soft on the characters |
1523 | 01:13:56,475 | 01:13:57,932 | he was writing about, | he was writing about, |
1524 | 01:13:57,933 | 01:13:59,349 | the people he was writing about. | the people he was writing about. |
1525 | 01:13:59,350 | 01:14:00,974 | Not that we wanted to be harsh, | Not that we wanted to be harsh, |
1526 | 01:14:00,975 | 01:14:02,890 | but you had to have a little more | but you had to have a little more |
1527 | 01:14:02,891 | 01:14:06,765 | of a worldly view of it than just a fan's view of it. | of a worldly view of it than just a fan's view of it. |
1528 | 01:14:06,766 | 01:14:08,599 | - And he said, | - And he said, |
1529 | 01:14:08,600 | 01:14:11,516 | "You wrote what they wanted you to write. | "You wrote what they wanted you to write. |
1530 | 01:14:11,517 | 01:14:13,849 | "There's nothing in that story | "There's nothing in that story |
1531 | 01:14:13,850 | 01:14:16,640 | "that was you getting to the heart | "that was you getting to the heart |
1532 | 01:14:16,641 | 01:14:20,057 | "of what the real scene was, what it felt like, | "of what the real scene was, what it felt like, |
1533 | 01:14:20,058 | 01:14:25,433 | "what it smelled like, what they meant at this time | "what it smelled like, what they meant at this time |
1534 | 01:14:25,434 | 01:14:29,099 | "in history for people to read years from now. | "in history for people to read years from now. |
1535 | 01:14:29,100 | 01:14:31,057 | "You don't have that. | "You don't have that. |
1536 | 01:14:31,058 | 01:14:33,682 | "You have them talking about themselves. | "You have them talking about themselves. |
1537 | 01:14:33,683 | 01:14:37,849 | Nice stuff, but it's not the stuff." | Nice stuff, but it's not the stuff." |
1538 | 01:14:37,850 | 01:14:39,890 | And then he said, "Wait right here." | And then he said, "Wait right here." |
1539 | 01:14:39,891 | 01:14:44,433 | And he went to the back room and came out with this-- | And he went to the back room and came out with this-- |
1540 | 01:14:44,434 | 01:14:47,224 | Joan Didion's "Slouching Towards Bethlehem." | Joan Didion's "Slouching Towards Bethlehem." |
1541 | 01:14:47,225 | 01:14:51,057 | He said, "If you're really serious about this | He said, "If you're really serious about this |
1542 | 01:14:51,058 | 01:14:54,308 | "and you want to be a writer, not a reviewer, | "and you want to be a writer, not a reviewer, |
1543 | 01:14:54,309 | 01:14:57,016 | "not a critic, not a guy who loves music | "not a critic, not a guy who loves music |
1544 | 01:14:57,017 | 01:14:59,724 | "and is writing about how much he loves music, | "and is writing about how much he loves music, |
1545 | 01:14:59,725 | 01:15:01,474 | "you will study Joan Didion. | "you will study Joan Didion. |
1546 | 01:15:01,475 | 01:15:03,890 | "You will study her profile of Jim Morrison. | "You will study her profile of Jim Morrison. |
1547 | 01:15:03,891 | 01:15:06,057 | This is my copy. Take it." | This is my copy. Take it." |
1548 | 01:15:06,058 | 01:15:10,266 | And that was my experience with Jann Wenner. | And that was my experience with Jann Wenner. |
1549 | 01:15:10,267 | 01:15:11,932 | Never forgot it. | Never forgot it. |
1550 | 01:15:11,933 | 01:15:14,224 | Jann could have easily said, | Jann could have easily said, |
1551 | 01:15:14,225 | 01:15:17,807 | "Run the fucking story. Who gives a shit?" | "Run the fucking story. Who gives a shit?" |
1552 | 01:15:17,808 | 01:15:19,807 | But he didn't. | But he didn't. |
1553 | 01:15:19,808 | 01:15:23,267 | He was like, "Bring him in." | He was like, "Bring him in." |
1554 | 01:15:24,309 | 01:15:28,016 | That's a real editor and a publisher. | That's a real editor and a publisher. |
1555 | 01:15:52,600 | 01:15:57,016 | - I had read that your family was affluent but eccentric. | - I had read that your family was affluent but eccentric. |
1556 | 01:15:57,017 | 01:15:58,682 | Would you describe them that way? | Would you describe them that way? |
1557 | 01:15:58,683 | 01:16:00,765 | - My father was a businessman, you know, | - My father was a businessman, you know, |
1558 | 01:16:00,766 | 01:16:03,433 | entrepreneur, started his own business with my mother. | entrepreneur, started his own business with my mother. |
1559 | 01:16:03,434 | 01:16:05,182 | My mother left that business. | My mother left that business. |
1560 | 01:16:05,183 | 01:16:07,182 | She became a writer, and she wrote several books. | She became a writer, and she wrote several books. |
1561 | 01:16:07,183 | 01:16:09,558 | I suppose you could call that sort of eccentric at the time. | I suppose you could call that sort of eccentric at the time. |
1562 | 01:16:09,559 | 01:16:11,474 | But, you know, not terribly. | But, you know, not terribly. |
1563 | 01:16:11,475 | 01:16:13,849 | - Do you remember having heroes as a child? | - Do you remember having heroes as a child? |
1564 | 01:16:13,850 | 01:16:15,558 | - My parents were heavily involved | - My parents were heavily involved |
1565 | 01:16:15,559 | 01:16:18,308 | in Democratic politics, and soon thereafter my heroes | in Democratic politics, and soon thereafter my heroes |
1566 | 01:16:18,309 | 01:16:19,932 | were people like Adlai Stevenson | were people like Adlai Stevenson |
1567 | 01:16:19,933 | 01:16:21,308 | and Estes Kefauver. | and Estes Kefauver. |
1568 | 01:16:21,309 | 01:16:22,932 | - That's where you got your political-- | - That's where you got your political-- |
1569 | 01:16:22,933 | 01:16:24,349 | - Yeah, from my parents. | - Yeah, from my parents. |
1570 | 01:16:24,350 | 01:16:26,308 | - What did you get from each parent? | - What did you get from each parent? |
1571 | 01:16:26,309 | 01:16:27,974 | - I guess I got my-- | - I guess I got my-- |
1572 | 01:16:27,975 | 01:16:30,974 | some of my business ability from my father. | some of my business ability from my father. |
1573 | 01:16:30,975 | 01:16:33,640 | And my mother taught me actually how to edit | And my mother taught me actually how to edit |
1574 | 01:16:33,641 | 01:16:35,349 | when I was young, you know, | when I was young, you know, |
1575 | 01:16:35,350 | 01:16:39,974 | what to look for in writing and, um, you know, | what to look for in writing and, um, you know, |
1576 | 01:16:39,975 | 01:16:42,641 | some taste and some style and that kind of thing. | some taste and some style and that kind of thing. |
1577 | 01:16:43,975 | 01:16:46,516 | My mom actually got me my first job | My mom actually got me my first job |
1578 | 01:16:46,517 | 01:16:48,724 | at the local NBC radio station, | at the local NBC radio station, |
1579 | 01:16:48,725 | 01:16:50,349 | writing traffic reports. | writing traffic reports. |
1580 | 01:16:50,350 | 01:16:52,765 | I would sit in a little isolated room, | I would sit in a little isolated room, |
1581 | 01:16:52,766 | 01:16:54,682 | listening to police radios | listening to police radios |
1582 | 01:16:54,683 | 01:16:57,016 | about car accidents and freeway tie-ups | about car accidents and freeway tie-ups |
1583 | 01:16:57,017 | 01:16:58,724 | and write it up in a little summary | and write it up in a little summary |
1584 | 01:16:58,725 | 01:17:00,724 | and run and hand it to the disc jockey. | and run and hand it to the disc jockey. |
1585 | 01:17:00,725 | 01:17:03,516 | That evolved into kind of a stringer position | That evolved into kind of a stringer position |
1586 | 01:17:03,517 | 01:17:05,474 | at University of California at Berkeley campus, | at University of California at Berkeley campus, |
1587 | 01:17:05,475 | 01:17:07,266 | when I was in college. | when I was in college. |
1588 | 01:17:09,517 | 01:17:13,682 | - ♪ You know this world's just one big trouble spot ♪ | - ♪ You know this world's just one big trouble spot ♪ |
1589 | 01:17:13,683 | 01:17:17,974 | ♪ 'Cause some have plenty and some have not ♪ | ♪ 'Cause some have plenty and some have not ♪ |
1590 | 01:17:17,975 | 01:17:20,266 | ♪ You know, I used to be trouble ♪ | ♪ You know, I used to be trouble ♪ |
1591 | 01:17:20,267 | 01:17:23,182 | ♪ But I finally saw the light ♪ | ♪ But I finally saw the light ♪ |
1592 | 01:17:26,392 | 01:17:28,640 | ♪ Now I don't worry about a thing ♪ | ♪ Now I don't worry about a thing ♪ |
1593 | 01:17:28,641 | 01:17:33,724 | ♪ 'Cause I know nothing's going to be all right ♪ | ♪ 'Cause I know nothing's going to be all right ♪ |
1594 | 01:17:33,725 | 01:17:36,640 | - I came to Berkeley in '63, | - I came to Berkeley in '63, |
1595 | 01:17:36,641 | 01:17:39,057 | in the fall of '63, | in the fall of '63, |
1596 | 01:17:39,058 | 01:17:43,890 | and met Jann early in '64. | and met Jann early in '64. |
1597 | 01:17:43,891 | 01:17:47,516 | I went up to Jann's apartment in the hills, | I went up to Jann's apartment in the hills, |
1598 | 01:17:47,517 | 01:17:50,765 | and, you know, this was a real experience for me. | and, you know, this was a real experience for me. |
1599 | 01:17:50,766 | 01:17:52,849 | I hadn't met anybody who had | I hadn't met anybody who had |
1600 | 01:17:52,850 | 01:17:55,182 | their own apartment as a freshman. | their own apartment as a freshman. |
1601 | 01:17:55,183 | 01:17:58,391 | That was very unusual. | That was very unusual. |
1602 | 01:17:58,392 | 01:18:02,182 | And he had a Mose Allison record playing, | And he had a Mose Allison record playing, |
1603 | 01:18:02,183 | 01:18:04,558 | which was, you know, super hip, | which was, you know, super hip, |
1604 | 01:18:04,559 | 01:18:07,433 | and he had the "Chronicle" | and he had the "Chronicle" |
1605 | 01:18:07,434 | 01:18:10,974 | double-page spread of all the debutantes. | double-page spread of all the debutantes. |
1606 | 01:18:12,808 | 01:18:14,932 | I had also never encountered anybody | I had also never encountered anybody |
1607 | 01:18:14,933 | 01:18:17,141 | who was in part of that world, | who was in part of that world, |
1608 | 01:18:17,142 | 01:18:19,182 | and I was a little taken aback | and I was a little taken aback |
1609 | 01:18:19,183 | 01:18:22,599 | by the combination of the hipster | by the combination of the hipster |
1610 | 01:18:22,600 | 01:18:25,558 | and the society wannabe. | and the society wannabe. |
1611 | 01:18:25,559 | 01:18:27,349 | But I liked him. | But I liked him. |
1612 | 01:18:27,350 | 01:18:29,640 | I mean, he was just full of personality. | I mean, he was just full of personality. |
1613 | 01:18:29,641 | 01:18:31,266 | - ♪ Things will get worse ♪ | - ♪ Things will get worse ♪ |
1614 | 01:18:31,267 | 01:18:33,266 | ♪ Before they get any better ♪ | ♪ Before they get any better ♪ |
1615 | 01:18:33,267 | 01:18:35,599 | - The free speech movement was my sophomore year | - The free speech movement was my sophomore year |
1616 | 01:18:35,600 | 01:18:37,558 | and Jann's sophomore year. | and Jann's sophomore year. |
1617 | 01:18:37,559 | 01:18:39,599 | - I've got the light of freedom! | - I've got the light of freedom! |
1618 | 01:18:39,600 | 01:18:43,016 | - I had been a part of campus radical community. | - I had been a part of campus radical community. |
1619 | 01:18:43,017 | 01:18:45,349 | I mean, I had joined an organization | I mean, I had joined an organization |
1620 | 01:18:45,350 | 01:18:47,765 | which sponsored campus demonstrations. | which sponsored campus demonstrations. |
1621 | 01:18:49,100 | 01:18:53,599 | - We're asking that there be no-- | - We're asking that there be no-- |
1622 | 01:18:53,600 | 01:18:56,474 | no restrictions on the content of speech, | no restrictions on the content of speech, |
1623 | 01:18:56,475 | 01:18:59,640 | save those provided by the courts, | save those provided by the courts, |
1624 | 01:18:59,641 | 01:19:02,807 | and that's--that's an enormous amount of freedom. | and that's--that's an enormous amount of freedom. |
1625 | 01:19:04,392 | 01:19:07,724 | - The university banned advocacy on campus, | - The university banned advocacy on campus, |
1626 | 01:19:07,725 | 01:19:10,974 | and immediately as that was happening, | and immediately as that was happening, |
1627 | 01:19:10,975 | 01:19:13,308 | a student strike was being organized | a student strike was being organized |
1628 | 01:19:13,309 | 01:19:14,974 | to shut the campus down. | to shut the campus down. |
1629 | 01:19:14,975 | 01:19:16,765 | And the campus was shut down. | And the campus was shut down. |
1630 | 01:19:16,766 | 01:19:19,182 | There essentially were no classes taking place, | There essentially were no classes taking place, |
1631 | 01:19:19,183 | 01:19:23,057 | and many professors were refusing to teach. | and many professors were refusing to teach. |
1632 | 01:19:23,058 | 01:19:25,932 | The university, it just floundered. | The university, it just floundered. |
1633 | 01:19:25,933 | 01:19:28,724 | They didn't know what the hell to do. | They didn't know what the hell to do. |
1634 | 01:19:28,725 | 01:19:31,016 | - The departmental chairmen believe that the acts | - The departmental chairmen believe that the acts |
1635 | 01:19:31,017 | 01:19:33,224 | of civil disobedience on December 2nd and 3rd | of civil disobedience on December 2nd and 3rd |
1636 | 01:19:33,225 | 01:19:36,349 | were unwarranted and that they obstruct rational | were unwarranted and that they obstruct rational |
1637 | 01:19:36,350 | 01:19:38,682 | and fair consideration. | and fair consideration. |
1638 | 01:19:42,517 | 01:19:44,724 | - Mario Savio was standing at the side | - Mario Savio was standing at the side |
1639 | 01:19:44,725 | 01:19:48,266 | of the stage with some papers in his hand. | of the stage with some papers in his hand. |
1640 | 01:19:48,267 | 01:19:51,516 | And suddenly, you know, snapped out of it. | And suddenly, you know, snapped out of it. |
1641 | 01:19:51,517 | 01:19:54,391 | I think, "Oh, my God. What's he doing there?" | I think, "Oh, my God. What's he doing there?" |
1642 | 01:19:54,392 | 01:19:57,640 | And so he walks very deliberately | And so he walks very deliberately |
1643 | 01:19:57,641 | 01:19:59,308 | toward the podium, | toward the podium, |
1644 | 01:19:59,309 | 01:20:01,849 | and he puts his papers down. | and he puts his papers down. |
1645 | 01:20:01,850 | 01:20:05,516 | And suddenly a sheriff comes running up behind him | And suddenly a sheriff comes running up behind him |
1646 | 01:20:05,517 | 01:20:07,599 | and grabs him around the neck. | and grabs him around the neck. |
1647 | 01:20:07,600 | 01:20:11,266 | - When the operation of the machine becomes so odious, | - When the operation of the machine becomes so odious, |
1648 | 01:20:11,267 | 01:20:13,640 | you've got to put your bodies upon the gears | you've got to put your bodies upon the gears |
1649 | 01:20:13,641 | 01:20:16,516 | and upon the wheels, and you've got to make it stop. | and upon the wheels, and you've got to make it stop. |
1650 | 01:20:18,017 | 01:20:19,765 | - The shout that went up from the crowd, | - The shout that went up from the crowd, |
1651 | 01:20:19,766 | 01:20:21,890 | and the shock of that moment | and the shock of that moment |
1652 | 01:20:21,891 | 01:20:24,807 | is one of the formative experiences | is one of the formative experiences |
1653 | 01:20:24,808 | 01:20:28,182 | of my life and I'm sure Jann's. | of my life and I'm sure Jann's. |
1654 | 01:20:28,183 | 01:20:31,224 | But he's also a reporter at that event. | But he's also a reporter at that event. |
1655 | 01:20:31,225 | 01:20:33,016 | He's got to file a story, | He's got to file a story, |
1656 | 01:20:33,017 | 01:20:37,640 | and lo and behold, there's a great story. | and lo and behold, there's a great story. |
1657 | 01:20:37,641 | 01:20:39,807 | - When this free speech movement starts, | - When this free speech movement starts, |
1658 | 01:20:39,808 | 01:20:42,308 | all of a sudden, I found myself kind of | all of a sudden, I found myself kind of |
1659 | 01:20:42,309 | 01:20:44,640 | really dealing both sides of it, you know. | really dealing both sides of it, you know. |
1660 | 01:20:44,641 | 01:20:47,765 | I'm carrying information to the protest leaders, | I'm carrying information to the protest leaders, |
1661 | 01:20:47,766 | 01:20:50,308 | then running outside and doing the coverage. | then running outside and doing the coverage. |
1662 | 01:20:50,309 | 01:20:51,974 | - Please listen! | - Please listen! |
1663 | 01:20:51,975 | 01:20:54,141 | - We saw no contradiction in that era | - We saw no contradiction in that era |
1664 | 01:20:54,142 | 01:20:56,516 | to be a journalist and an activist. | to be a journalist and an activist. |
1665 | 01:20:56,517 | 01:20:59,558 | All the leading campuses saw a transformation | All the leading campuses saw a transformation |
1666 | 01:20:59,559 | 01:21:02,932 | of the student body into large groups of activists. | of the student body into large groups of activists. |
1667 | 01:21:02,933 | 01:21:05,890 | And around the edges of our protests, | And around the edges of our protests, |
1668 | 01:21:05,891 | 01:21:07,765 | violence started breaking out. | violence started breaking out. |
1669 | 01:21:07,766 | 01:21:11,182 | These were smaller groups of extreme activists | These were smaller groups of extreme activists |
1670 | 01:21:11,183 | 01:21:15,057 | who wanted to foment violence by throwing bottles, | who wanted to foment violence by throwing bottles, |
1671 | 01:21:15,058 | 01:21:19,182 | breaking windows, getting the police agitated | breaking windows, getting the police agitated |
1672 | 01:21:19,183 | 01:21:22,141 | so they would beat up the protesters. | so they would beat up the protesters. |
1673 | 01:21:24,600 | 01:21:26,433 | And the Civil Rights Movement | And the Civil Rights Movement |
1674 | 01:21:26,434 | 01:21:29,474 | had morphed into the Black Power Movement, | had morphed into the Black Power Movement, |
1675 | 01:21:29,475 | 01:21:31,474 | and you had the Black Panthers. | and you had the Black Panthers. |
1676 | 01:21:31,475 | 01:21:33,890 | Here was a group that stood up to the cops, | Here was a group that stood up to the cops, |
1677 | 01:21:33,891 | 01:21:36,807 | carried guns, monitored traffic stops. | carried guns, monitored traffic stops. |
1678 | 01:21:36,808 | 01:21:39,765 | This inspired my generation | This inspired my generation |
1679 | 01:21:39,766 | 01:21:42,640 | that was becoming increasingly revolutionary in nature. | that was becoming increasingly revolutionary in nature. |
1680 | 01:21:42,641 | 01:21:44,224 | Off the pigs! | Off the pigs! |
1681 | 01:21:44,225 | 01:21:45,807 | ♪ Revolution has come ♪ | ♪ Revolution has come ♪ |
1682 | 01:21:45,808 | 01:21:47,141 | Freedom now! | Freedom now! |
1683 | 01:21:47,142 | 01:21:48,974 | - So you had all these forces | - So you had all these forces |
1684 | 01:21:48,975 | 01:21:51,224 | sort of coursing through society. | sort of coursing through society. |
1685 | 01:21:51,225 | 01:21:55,558 | You had factions breaking off this way and that way. | You had factions breaking off this way and that way. |
1686 | 01:21:55,559 | 01:21:58,141 | And the organizations that were holding together | And the organizations that were holding together |
1687 | 01:21:58,142 | 01:22:01,640 | the protest movements started to fall apart. | the protest movements started to fall apart. |
1688 | 01:22:01,641 | 01:22:04,016 | And by the time you got to 1974 | And by the time you got to 1974 |
1689 | 01:22:04,017 | 01:22:06,182 | when Patty Hearst was kidnapped, | when Patty Hearst was kidnapped, |
1690 | 01:22:06,183 | 01:22:08,641 | a great paranoia set in. | a great paranoia set in. |
1691 | 01:22:11,475 | 01:22:13,599 | - Patty Hearst and Steve Weed were home | - Patty Hearst and Steve Weed were home |
1692 | 01:22:13,600 | 01:22:15,724 | in their Berkeley apartment on the foggy night | in their Berkeley apartment on the foggy night |
1693 | 01:22:15,725 | 01:22:18,640 | of February 4, 1974. | of February 4, 1974. |
1694 | 01:22:18,641 | 01:22:20,640 | The young couple lived together in something | The young couple lived together in something |
1695 | 01:22:20,641 | 01:22:22,182 | that used to be called "sin" | that used to be called "sin" |
1696 | 01:22:22,183 | 01:22:24,640 | and smoked an occasional joint. | and smoked an occasional joint. |
1697 | 01:22:24,641 | 01:22:27,724 | Donald DeFreeze, Willie Wolf, and Nancy Ling Perry | Donald DeFreeze, Willie Wolf, and Nancy Ling Perry |
1698 | 01:22:27,725 | 01:22:30,807 | moved silently to apartment number four. | moved silently to apartment number four. |
1699 | 01:22:30,808 | 01:22:34,016 | They burst in, brandishing guns, grabbed Patty, | They burst in, brandishing guns, grabbed Patty, |
1700 | 01:22:34,017 | 01:22:38,682 | and carried her kicking and screaming to the waiting car. | and carried her kicking and screaming to the waiting car. |
1701 | 01:22:38,683 | 01:22:41,474 | They shoved her into the trunk. | They shoved her into the trunk. |
1702 | 01:22:41,475 | 01:22:43,516 | Patty was scared and half naked, | Patty was scared and half naked, |
1703 | 01:22:43,517 | 01:22:47,141 | but she stared hard-eyed at her kidnappers. | but she stared hard-eyed at her kidnappers. |
1704 | 01:22:47,142 | 01:22:50,558 | - Greetings, fellow comrades, brothers, and sisters. | - Greetings, fellow comrades, brothers, and sisters. |
1705 | 01:22:50,559 | 01:22:52,349 | My name is Cinque. | My name is Cinque. |
1706 | 01:22:52,350 | 01:22:53,890 | I am a black man | I am a black man |
1707 | 01:22:53,891 | 01:22:56,682 | and a representative of black people. | and a representative of black people. |
1708 | 01:22:56,683 | 01:22:59,016 | - To some, Cinque was an unimpressive thug | - To some, Cinque was an unimpressive thug |
1709 | 01:22:59,017 | 01:23:01,724 | who had once robbed a prostitute of $10. | who had once robbed a prostitute of $10. |
1710 | 01:23:01,725 | 01:23:04,599 | - I hold the rank of General Field Marshal | - I hold the rank of General Field Marshal |
1711 | 01:23:04,600 | 01:23:06,640 | in the United Federated Forces | in the United Federated Forces |
1712 | 01:23:06,641 | 01:23:08,890 | of the Symbionese Liberation Army. | of the Symbionese Liberation Army. |
1713 | 01:23:08,891 | 01:23:12,349 | Our unified purpose is to liberate the oppressed peoples | Our unified purpose is to liberate the oppressed peoples |
1714 | 01:23:12,350 | 01:23:14,266 | of this nation. | of this nation. |
1715 | 01:23:14,267 | 01:23:18,433 | Let the voice of their guns express the words of freedom. | Let the voice of their guns express the words of freedom. |
1716 | 01:23:18,434 | 01:23:20,890 | - To the nascent Symbionese Liberation Army | - To the nascent Symbionese Liberation Army |
1717 | 01:23:20,891 | 01:23:23,724 | of four white men and five white women, | of four white men and five white women, |
1718 | 01:23:23,725 | 01:23:27,057 | Cinque was a charismatic prophet whose talk of killing | Cinque was a charismatic prophet whose talk of killing |
1719 | 01:23:27,058 | 01:23:29,682 | and kidnapping somehow made sense. | and kidnapping somehow made sense. |
1720 | 01:23:29,683 | 01:23:32,974 | - I am ordered to convey the following message | - I am ordered to convey the following message |
1721 | 01:23:32,975 | 01:23:34,932 | in behalf of the SLA | in behalf of the SLA |
1722 | 01:23:34,933 | 01:23:38,682 | that Patricia Campbell Hearst is alive and safe. | that Patricia Campbell Hearst is alive and safe. |
1723 | 01:23:38,683 | 01:23:40,349 | - Patty was kept blindfolded | - Patty was kept blindfolded |
1724 | 01:23:40,350 | 01:23:42,141 | in a stuffy closet-sized room | in a stuffy closet-sized room |
1725 | 01:23:42,142 | 01:23:44,682 | with a bare lightbulb and a portable cot. | with a bare lightbulb and a portable cot. |
1726 | 01:23:44,683 | 01:23:46,932 | There were no windows, and it was hot. | There were no windows, and it was hot. |
1727 | 01:23:46,933 | 01:23:50,599 | She lost track of time and didn't feel like eating. | She lost track of time and didn't feel like eating. |
1728 | 01:23:50,600 | 01:23:53,141 | Cinque kept up a constant intimidation. | Cinque kept up a constant intimidation. |
1729 | 01:23:53,142 | 01:23:54,849 | He berated her and her family | He berated her and her family |
1730 | 01:23:54,850 | 01:23:56,682 | for being part of the ruling class | for being part of the ruling class |
1731 | 01:23:56,683 | 01:23:59,016 | that was sucking blood from the common people. | that was sucking blood from the common people. |
1732 | 01:23:59,017 | 01:24:02,308 | Patty was shown a long list of the Hearst family holdings: | Patty was shown a long list of the Hearst family holdings: |
1733 | 01:24:02,309 | 01:24:04,932 | nine newspapers, thirteen magazines, | nine newspapers, thirteen magazines, |
1734 | 01:24:04,933 | 01:24:06,849 | four TV and radio stations, | four TV and radio stations, |
1735 | 01:24:06,850 | 01:24:10,682 | a silver mine, a paper mill, and prime real estate. | a silver mine, a paper mill, and prime real estate. |
1736 | 01:24:10,683 | 01:24:12,308 | - At that time, | - At that time, |
1737 | 01:24:12,309 | 01:24:15,099 | the Hearst name was well known to everybody | the Hearst name was well known to everybody |
1738 | 01:24:15,100 | 01:24:18,016 | because the family had a lot of money. | because the family had a lot of money. |
1739 | 01:24:18,017 | 01:24:22,266 | Patty Hearst's grandparent, William Randolph Hearst, | Patty Hearst's grandparent, William Randolph Hearst, |
1740 | 01:24:22,267 | 01:24:24,890 | had started a newspaper empire. | had started a newspaper empire. |
1741 | 01:24:24,891 | 01:24:27,099 | Books had been written about him. | Books had been written about him. |
1742 | 01:24:27,100 | 01:24:29,016 | There's a movie based on him. | There's a movie based on him. |
1743 | 01:24:29,017 | 01:24:32,516 | It's one of the most famous movies ever. | It's one of the most famous movies ever. |
1744 | 01:24:32,517 | 01:24:36,807 | - I made no campaign promises, | - I made no campaign promises, |
1745 | 01:24:36,808 | 01:24:39,682 | because until a few weeks ago, | because until a few weeks ago, |
1746 | 01:24:39,683 | 01:24:41,724 | I had no hope of being elected. | I had no hope of being elected. |
1747 | 01:24:43,225 | 01:24:46,141 | - So, when the SLA kidnapped Patty, | - So, when the SLA kidnapped Patty, |
1748 | 01:24:46,142 | 01:24:49,308 | the newspaper heiress, they could not have found | the newspaper heiress, they could not have found |
1749 | 01:24:49,309 | 01:24:52,308 | a more dramatic person to kidnap | a more dramatic person to kidnap |
1750 | 01:24:52,309 | 01:24:55,308 | unless you kidnapped the President's daughter. | unless you kidnapped the President's daughter. |
1751 | 01:24:58,392 | 01:25:02,724 | - Mom, Dad, I'm okay. | - Mom, Dad, I'm okay. |
1752 | 01:25:02,725 | 01:25:07,057 | I'm with a combat unit | I'm with a combat unit |
1753 | 01:25:07,058 | 01:25:11,474 | that's armed with automatic weapons. | that's armed with automatic weapons. |
1754 | 01:25:11,475 | 01:25:14,016 | They're perfectly willing to die | They're perfectly willing to die |
1755 | 01:25:14,017 | 01:25:17,099 | for what they are doing, | for what they are doing, |
1756 | 01:25:17,100 | 01:25:19,308 | and... | and... |
1757 | 01:25:19,309 | 01:25:23,099 | I just hope that you'll do what they say, Dad, | I just hope that you'll do what they say, Dad, |
1758 | 01:25:23,100 | 01:25:25,932 | and just do it quickly. | and just do it quickly. |
1759 | 01:25:25,933 | 01:25:31,141 | I'm not being forced to say any of this. | I'm not being forced to say any of this. |
1760 | 01:25:31,142 | 01:25:32,890 | - We love you, Patty. | - We love you, Patty. |
1761 | 01:25:32,891 | 01:25:37,016 | I'm sorry I'm crying, but I'm happy you're safe. | I'm sorry I'm crying, but I'm happy you're safe. |
1762 | 01:25:37,017 | 01:25:38,724 | And be strong. | And be strong. |
1763 | 01:25:38,725 | 01:25:41,016 | I know God will bring you back. | I know God will bring you back. |
1764 | 01:25:41,017 | 01:25:42,890 | - I believe she's safe. | - I believe she's safe. |
1765 | 01:25:42,891 | 01:25:47,057 | I believe that they are taking good care of her. | I believe that they are taking good care of her. |
1766 | 01:25:47,058 | 01:25:49,599 | And I believe these people are sincere. | And I believe these people are sincere. |
1767 | 01:25:51,058 | 01:25:53,016 | - Patty feared Cinque. | - Patty feared Cinque. |
1768 | 01:25:53,017 | 01:25:55,182 | He told her she'd be killed if her parents did not meet | He told her she'd be killed if her parents did not meet |
1769 | 01:25:55,183 | 01:25:57,765 | the SLA's demands, and she believed him. | the SLA's demands, and she believed him. |
1770 | 01:25:57,766 | 01:25:59,433 | So Patty grew impatient | So Patty grew impatient |
1771 | 01:25:59,434 | 01:26:01,932 | as the ransom negotiations bogged down. | as the ransom negotiations bogged down. |
1772 | 01:26:01,933 | 01:26:04,974 | "I felt my parents were debating how much I was worth. | "I felt my parents were debating how much I was worth. |
1773 | 01:26:04,975 | 01:26:06,890 | "Like they figured I was worth 2 million | "Like they figured I was worth 2 million |
1774 | 01:26:06,891 | 01:26:08,599 | "but I wasn't worth 10 million. | "but I wasn't worth 10 million. |
1775 | 01:26:08,600 | 01:26:10,558 | "It was a horrible feeling that my parents | "It was a horrible feeling that my parents |
1776 | 01:26:10,559 | 01:26:13,016 | "could think of me in terms of dollars and cents. | "could think of me in terms of dollars and cents. |
1777 | 01:26:13,017 | 01:26:16,099 | I felt sick all over." | I felt sick all over." |
1778 | 01:26:16,100 | 01:26:18,266 | By degrees, her disillusionment | By degrees, her disillusionment |
1779 | 01:26:18,267 | 01:26:21,890 | with her parents turned into sympathy for the SLA. | with her parents turned into sympathy for the SLA. |
1780 | 01:26:21,891 | 01:26:25,224 | Cinque wanted her to become a comrade in arms. | Cinque wanted her to become a comrade in arms. |
1781 | 01:26:25,225 | 01:26:26,807 | Patty was urged to attend | Patty was urged to attend |
1782 | 01:26:26,808 | 01:26:29,224 | SLA's daily political study sessions. | SLA's daily political study sessions. |
1783 | 01:26:29,225 | 01:26:32,599 | She was invited to listen to the SLA national anthem, | She was invited to listen to the SLA national anthem, |
1784 | 01:26:32,600 | 01:26:34,433 | an eerie jazz composition | an eerie jazz composition |
1785 | 01:26:34,434 | 01:26:36,932 | of wind and string that Cinque had selected. | of wind and string that Cinque had selected. |
1786 | 01:26:41,434 | 01:26:43,349 | They hugged her, called her "sister," | They hugged her, called her "sister," |
1787 | 01:26:43,350 | 01:26:45,266 | and ended her loneliness. | and ended her loneliness. |
1788 | 01:26:45,267 | 01:26:48,724 | Patty's conversion was as much emotional as political. | Patty's conversion was as much emotional as political. |
1789 | 01:26:48,725 | 01:26:50,849 | Seven weeks after she was kidnapped, | Seven weeks after she was kidnapped, |
1790 | 01:26:50,850 | 01:26:54,058 | Patty changed into Tania, an SLA soldier. | Patty changed into Tania, an SLA soldier. |
1791 | 01:27:03,017 | 01:27:05,474 | - Greetings to the people. | - Greetings to the people. |
1792 | 01:27:05,475 | 01:27:07,016 | This is Tania. | This is Tania. |
1793 | 01:27:07,017 | 01:27:10,266 | On April 15th, my comrades and I | On April 15th, my comrades and I |
1794 | 01:27:10,267 | 01:27:15,141 | expropriated $10,660.02 | expropriated $10,660.02 |
1795 | 01:27:15,142 | 01:27:18,182 | from the Sunset branch of the Hibernia Bank. | from the Sunset branch of the Hibernia Bank. |
1796 | 01:27:18,183 | 01:27:20,890 | Casualties could have been avoided | Casualties could have been avoided |
1797 | 01:27:20,891 | 01:27:22,391 | had the persons involved | had the persons involved |
1798 | 01:27:22,392 | 01:27:24,266 | cooperated with the people's forces | cooperated with the people's forces |
1799 | 01:27:24,267 | 01:27:28,141 | and kept out of the way until after our departure. | and kept out of the way until after our departure. |
1800 | 01:27:28,142 | 01:27:30,558 | - The story was so widely covered. | - The story was so widely covered. |
1801 | 01:27:30,559 | 01:27:32,224 | It was like a circus. | It was like a circus. |
1802 | 01:27:32,225 | 01:27:35,141 | It was O.J. Simpson before O.J. Simpson. | It was O.J. Simpson before O.J. Simpson. |
1803 | 01:27:35,142 | 01:27:37,308 | But the mainstream media never had | But the mainstream media never had |
1804 | 01:27:37,309 | 01:27:40,308 | her side of the story until "Rolling Stone" | her side of the story until "Rolling Stone" |
1805 | 01:27:40,309 | 01:27:43,599 | found a source, someone named Jack Scott. | found a source, someone named Jack Scott. |
1806 | 01:27:43,600 | 01:27:46,141 | - Jack was a writer, and he wanted to write | - Jack was a writer, and he wanted to write |
1807 | 01:27:46,142 | 01:27:50,182 | a book about the SLA, so he came to Berkeley | a book about the SLA, so he came to Berkeley |
1808 | 01:27:50,183 | 01:27:53,807 | to talk to friends who were sympathetic to the SLA, | to talk to friends who were sympathetic to the SLA, |
1809 | 01:27:53,808 | 01:27:56,724 | and he didn't realize quite how sympathetic they were. | and he didn't realize quite how sympathetic they were. |
1810 | 01:28:01,225 | 01:28:03,016 | At 2:00 the next afternoon, | At 2:00 the next afternoon, |
1811 | 01:28:03,017 | 01:28:05,474 | at the corner of Telegraph and Dwight Way, | at the corner of Telegraph and Dwight Way, |
1812 | 01:28:05,475 | 01:28:07,349 | the door opened, and Jack walked | the door opened, and Jack walked |
1813 | 01:28:07,350 | 01:28:10,849 | into an apartment prepared for a police invasion. | into an apartment prepared for a police invasion. |
1814 | 01:28:10,850 | 01:28:13,599 | - ♪ You walk into the room ♪ | - ♪ You walk into the room ♪ |
1815 | 01:28:13,600 | 01:28:15,765 | ♪ With your pencil in your hand ♪ | ♪ With your pencil in your hand ♪ |
1816 | 01:28:15,766 | 01:28:19,016 | - Automatic machine guns were lined up next to the windows. | - Automatic machine guns were lined up next to the windows. |
1817 | 01:28:19,017 | 01:28:21,890 | Grenades were stacked in strategic corners. | Grenades were stacked in strategic corners. |
1818 | 01:28:21,891 | 01:28:25,640 | One gun was cradled by a short, unsmiling woman. | One gun was cradled by a short, unsmiling woman. |
1819 | 01:28:25,641 | 01:28:29,182 | - ♪ But you don't understand ♪ | - ♪ But you don't understand ♪ |
1820 | 01:28:29,183 | 01:28:33,932 | ♪ Just what you will say when you get home ♪ | ♪ Just what you will say when you get home ♪ |
1821 | 01:28:33,933 | 01:28:37,057 | - She was Tania, Patricia Campbell Hearst. | - She was Tania, Patricia Campbell Hearst. |
1822 | 01:28:37,058 | 01:28:38,932 | - ♪ Because something is happening here ♪ | - ♪ Because something is happening here ♪ |
1823 | 01:28:38,933 | 01:28:42,640 | ♪ But you don't know what it is ♪ | ♪ But you don't know what it is ♪ |
1824 | 01:28:42,641 | 01:28:45,016 | - "You said you were interested in the SLA. | - "You said you were interested in the SLA. |
1825 | 01:28:45,017 | 01:28:47,057 | "That's why we invited you here. | "That's why we invited you here. |
1826 | 01:28:47,058 | 01:28:48,558 | "The most important thing, | "The most important thing, |
1827 | 01:28:48,559 | 01:28:51,349 | at this time is to help us." | at this time is to help us." |
1828 | 01:28:51,350 | 01:28:54,474 | Jack nodded. He had over $40,000. | Jack nodded. He had over $40,000. |
1829 | 01:28:54,475 | 01:28:57,558 | The fugitives were welcome to some of that money. | The fugitives were welcome to some of that money. |
1830 | 01:28:57,559 | 01:28:59,099 | They could not leave Berkeley | They could not leave Berkeley |
1831 | 01:28:59,100 | 01:29:01,558 | without the kind of money Jack had. | without the kind of money Jack had. |
1832 | 01:29:05,309 | 01:29:07,849 | Too many wanted posters had been circulated | Too many wanted posters had been circulated |
1833 | 01:29:07,850 | 01:29:09,765 | to risk planes or trains. | to risk planes or trains. |
1834 | 01:29:09,766 | 01:29:12,433 | They would have to split up, travel by car. | They would have to split up, travel by car. |
1835 | 01:29:12,434 | 01:29:14,558 | Jack would have to chauffeur Patty. | Jack would have to chauffeur Patty. |
1836 | 01:29:14,559 | 01:29:17,433 | None of the other friends were willing to drive 3,000 miles | None of the other friends were willing to drive 3,000 miles |
1837 | 01:29:17,434 | 01:29:19,932 | with the most famous fugitive in the country | with the most famous fugitive in the country |
1838 | 01:29:19,933 | 01:29:22,932 | to a wooden two-story house that stood unpretentiously | to a wooden two-story house that stood unpretentiously |
1839 | 01:29:22,933 | 01:29:24,890 | by a dirt road in Pennsylvania, | by a dirt road in Pennsylvania, |
1840 | 01:29:24,891 | 01:29:28,224 | three hours west of New York City. | three hours west of New York City. |
1841 | 01:29:28,225 | 01:29:31,599 | Jack and Patty made it without mishap. | Jack and Patty made it without mishap. |
1842 | 01:29:31,600 | 01:29:33,765 | The farmhouse, from the outside, | The farmhouse, from the outside, |
1843 | 01:29:33,766 | 01:29:35,807 | loomed tall and weathered. | loomed tall and weathered. |
1844 | 01:29:35,808 | 01:29:39,016 | Patty spent long hours on a grassy hammock. | Patty spent long hours on a grassy hammock. |
1845 | 01:29:39,017 | 01:29:40,932 | The Pennsylvania summer seemed to relax | The Pennsylvania summer seemed to relax |
1846 | 01:29:40,933 | 01:29:43,141 | and rejuvenate the fugitives. | and rejuvenate the fugitives. |
1847 | 01:29:43,142 | 01:29:44,765 | They picked wild blackberries | They picked wild blackberries |
1848 | 01:29:44,766 | 01:29:47,057 | from bushes growing across the road. | from bushes growing across the road. |
1849 | 01:29:47,058 | 01:29:49,224 | For two months, the SLA fugitives | For two months, the SLA fugitives |
1850 | 01:29:49,225 | 01:29:53,016 | depended solely on the Schotts. | depended solely on the Schotts. |
1851 | 01:29:53,017 | 01:29:55,474 | Both sides agreed that the fugitives should leave | Both sides agreed that the fugitives should leave |
1852 | 01:29:55,475 | 01:29:57,640 | the farmhouse by September 1st. | the farmhouse by September 1st. |
1853 | 01:29:57,641 | 01:29:59,807 | Their friends back in Berkeley might be willing | Their friends back in Berkeley might be willing |
1854 | 01:29:59,808 | 01:30:01,974 | to risk helping them. | to risk helping them. |
1855 | 01:30:01,975 | 01:30:03,974 | A series of calls followed. | A series of calls followed. |
1856 | 01:30:03,975 | 01:30:07,558 | Reluctantly, they explained the hitch--Patty Hearst. | Reluctantly, they explained the hitch--Patty Hearst. |
1857 | 01:30:07,559 | 01:30:09,640 | The new team did not want the "Newsweek" cover girl | The new team did not want the "Newsweek" cover girl |
1858 | 01:30:09,641 | 01:30:11,141 | to be in the car when they entered | to be in the car when they entered |
1859 | 01:30:11,142 | 01:30:13,099 | a cross-country automobile trip. | a cross-country automobile trip. |
1860 | 01:30:13,100 | 01:30:15,224 | If Patty were to leave the farm, | If Patty were to leave the farm, |
1861 | 01:30:15,225 | 01:30:18,474 | it seemed Jack would have to drive the getaway car. | it seemed Jack would have to drive the getaway car. |
1862 | 01:30:20,975 | 01:30:23,349 | Three days later, they reached Las Vegas. | Three days later, they reached Las Vegas. |
1863 | 01:30:23,350 | 01:30:25,807 | Jack dropped Patty at a prearranged motel, | Jack dropped Patty at a prearranged motel, |
1864 | 01:30:25,808 | 01:30:28,224 | hugging her hard, and said good-bye. | hugging her hard, and said good-bye. |
1865 | 01:30:28,225 | 01:30:31,808 | The date was September 27, 1974. | The date was September 27, 1974. |
1866 | 01:30:34,475 | 01:30:37,558 | - Patty Hearst was underground for a long time, | - Patty Hearst was underground for a long time, |
1867 | 01:30:37,559 | 01:30:39,433 | about 19 months. | about 19 months. |
1868 | 01:30:39,434 | 01:30:41,433 | During that time, David and I were-- | During that time, David and I were-- |
1869 | 01:30:41,434 | 01:30:43,016 | we were writing the story, | we were writing the story, |
1870 | 01:30:43,017 | 01:30:44,682 | and we could not reveal that Jack Scott | and we could not reveal that Jack Scott |
1871 | 01:30:44,683 | 01:30:46,932 | was a primary source. | was a primary source. |
1872 | 01:30:46,933 | 01:30:50,309 | It's hard to describe how dangerous this was. | It's hard to describe how dangerous this was. |
1873 | 01:30:52,017 | 01:30:55,224 | Finally, I talked to Jann, and I said, | Finally, I talked to Jann, and I said, |
1874 | 01:30:55,225 | 01:30:57,640 | "I think this is gonna blow your mind, but"... | "I think this is gonna blow your mind, but"... |
1875 | 01:30:59,100 | 01:31:01,057 | "Are you willing to print a story | "Are you willing to print a story |
1876 | 01:31:01,058 | 01:31:04,349 | if you don't know where the information comes from?" | if you don't know where the information comes from?" |
1877 | 01:31:04,350 | 01:31:06,182 | And he said, "Yes." | And he said, "Yes." |
1878 | 01:31:06,183 | 01:31:09,016 | He knew we had a scoop. We all knew we had a scoop. | He knew we had a scoop. We all knew we had a scoop. |
1879 | 01:31:09,017 | 01:31:12,182 | - So we got the article all ready to go. | - So we got the article all ready to go. |
1880 | 01:31:12,183 | 01:31:15,182 | - But then all of a sudden, Patty was found and arrested. | - But then all of a sudden, Patty was found and arrested. |
1881 | 01:31:22,475 | 01:31:24,724 | - She was arrested on a Friday, | - She was arrested on a Friday, |
1882 | 01:31:24,725 | 01:31:27,308 | and we held an impromptu press conference. | and we held an impromptu press conference. |
1883 | 01:31:27,309 | 01:31:29,974 | So it was me in a flannel shirt | So it was me in a flannel shirt |
1884 | 01:31:29,975 | 01:31:32,890 | basically validating our story. | basically validating our story. |
1885 | 01:31:32,891 | 01:31:35,224 | The political content of their arguments | The political content of their arguments |
1886 | 01:31:35,225 | 01:31:36,974 | about the inequitable distribution of wealth | about the inequitable distribution of wealth |
1887 | 01:31:36,975 | 01:31:39,057 | in this country and a lot of things that a lot of us | in this country and a lot of things that a lot of us |
1888 | 01:31:39,058 | 01:31:42,558 | would agree with did make an impact on Patty Hearst... | would agree with did make an impact on Patty Hearst... |
1889 | 01:31:42,559 | 01:31:44,224 | - It was the Patty Hearst stories | - It was the Patty Hearst stories |
1890 | 01:31:44,225 | 01:31:46,224 | that put the magazine over the top, | that put the magazine over the top, |
1891 | 01:31:46,225 | 01:31:48,016 | and after that, "Rolling Stone" | and after that, "Rolling Stone" |
1892 | 01:31:48,017 | 01:31:50,516 | increasingly got publicity for its articles. | increasingly got publicity for its articles. |
1893 | 01:31:50,517 | 01:31:52,558 | - A long investigation, involving... | - A long investigation, involving... |
1894 | 01:31:52,559 | 01:31:54,224 | - "Rolling Stone," you say? | - "Rolling Stone," you say? |
1895 | 01:31:54,225 | 01:31:56,141 | Well, maybe everybody doesn't know. | Well, maybe everybody doesn't know. |
1896 | 01:31:56,142 | 01:31:59,057 | "Rolling Stone" started out as the counterculture, | "Rolling Stone" started out as the counterculture, |
1897 | 01:31:59,058 | 01:32:01,057 | underground sort of newspaper. | underground sort of newspaper. |
1898 | 01:32:02,975 | 01:32:05,516 | Colonel McCormick must be turning over to find | Colonel McCormick must be turning over to find |
1899 | 01:32:05,517 | 01:32:07,308 | that his dear "Chicago Tribune" | that his dear "Chicago Tribune" |
1900 | 01:32:07,309 | 01:32:09,682 | is carrying a story originally broken | is carrying a story originally broken |
1901 | 01:32:09,683 | 01:32:10,932 | in "Rolling Stone." | in "Rolling Stone." |
1902 | 01:32:10,933 | 01:32:12,141 | - How did you get the story? | - How did you get the story? |
1903 | 01:32:12,142 | 01:32:13,640 | Who were your sources? | Who were your sources? |
1904 | 01:32:13,641 | 01:32:14,974 | - How do you feel about the ethics | - How do you feel about the ethics |
1905 | 01:32:14,975 | 01:32:16,849 | of giving the SLA publicity? | of giving the SLA publicity? |
1906 | 01:32:16,850 | 01:32:19,724 | - What exactly makes the article so controversial? | - What exactly makes the article so controversial? |
1907 | 01:32:19,725 | 01:32:21,640 | - ♪ You're a shining star ♪ | - ♪ You're a shining star ♪ |
1908 | 01:32:21,641 | 01:32:23,974 | ♪ No matter who you are ♪ | ♪ No matter who you are ♪ |
1909 | 01:32:23,975 | 01:32:25,974 | ♪ Shining bright to see ♪ | ♪ Shining bright to see ♪ |
1910 | 01:32:25,975 | 01:32:29,308 | ♪ What you could truly be, what you could truly be ♪ | ♪ What you could truly be, what you could truly be ♪ |
1911 | 01:32:29,309 | 01:32:31,266 | - Just recently "Rolling Stone" magazine | - Just recently "Rolling Stone" magazine |
1912 | 01:32:31,267 | 01:32:34,308 | put out a two-edition article. | put out a two-edition article. |
1913 | 01:32:34,309 | 01:32:36,016 | - Howard Kohn, thank you very much for being with us. | - Howard Kohn, thank you very much for being with us. |
1914 | 01:32:36,017 | 01:32:38,433 | - And would you please welcome David Weir. | - And would you please welcome David Weir. |
1915 | 01:32:42,142 | 01:32:44,433 | - Two years ago, the SLA announced itself | - Two years ago, the SLA announced itself |
1916 | 01:32:44,434 | 01:32:46,266 | as a revolutionary vanguard. | as a revolutionary vanguard. |
1917 | 01:32:46,267 | 01:32:49,266 | It attempted to scare the rich and powerful, | It attempted to scare the rich and powerful, |
1918 | 01:32:49,267 | 01:32:53,558 | but managed instead to scare the American people. | but managed instead to scare the American people. |
1919 | 01:32:53,559 | 01:32:55,640 | And history has no record of a people | And history has no record of a people |
1920 | 01:32:55,641 | 01:32:59,475 | who have been frightened into making a revolution. | who have been frightened into making a revolution. |
1921 | 01:33:00,517 | 01:33:04,099 | - The SLA was, in a way, the last gasp of the '60s, | - The SLA was, in a way, the last gasp of the '60s, |
1922 | 01:33:04,100 | 01:33:05,599 | even though it was a weird gasp. | even though it was a weird gasp. |
1923 | 01:33:05,600 | 01:33:07,349 | And I feel like in a way, | And I feel like in a way, |
1924 | 01:33:07,350 | 01:33:09,433 | I'm a stand-in for a whole generation of people | I'm a stand-in for a whole generation of people |
1925 | 01:33:09,434 | 01:33:13,057 | who moved slowly away from the protest things. | who moved slowly away from the protest things. |
1926 | 01:33:13,058 | 01:33:14,474 | We got married. | We got married. |
1927 | 01:33:14,475 | 01:33:16,391 | We had kids. We got jobs. | We had kids. We got jobs. |
1928 | 01:33:16,392 | 01:33:18,765 | We became professionals on some level. | We became professionals on some level. |
1929 | 01:33:18,766 | 01:33:22,474 | And the idealism of the generation | And the idealism of the generation |
1930 | 01:33:22,475 | 01:33:25,224 | kind of melted away. | kind of melted away. |
1931 | 01:33:29,766 | 01:33:33,016 | - Living in San Francisco, you had the SLA, | - Living in San Francisco, you had the SLA, |
1932 | 01:33:33,017 | 01:33:35,349 | you had the Zebra Killers, | you had the Zebra Killers, |
1933 | 01:33:35,350 | 01:33:39,016 | you had the Zodiac Killers. | you had the Zodiac Killers. |
1934 | 01:33:39,017 | 01:33:42,849 | At some point, San Francisco started to scare me. | At some point, San Francisco started to scare me. |
1935 | 01:33:42,850 | 01:33:44,849 | I just was anxious to get back East. | I just was anxious to get back East. |
1936 | 01:33:44,850 | 01:33:47,516 | I thought New York was where publishing was, | I thought New York was where publishing was, |
1937 | 01:33:47,517 | 01:33:51,057 | and it seemed the right time to move. | and it seemed the right time to move. |
1938 | 01:33:51,058 | 01:33:52,890 | - When we started "Rolling Stone," | - When we started "Rolling Stone," |
1939 | 01:33:52,891 | 01:33:54,932 | San Francisco was a really extremely exciting, | San Francisco was a really extremely exciting, |
1940 | 01:33:54,933 | 01:33:56,682 | alive town. | alive town. |
1941 | 01:33:56,683 | 01:33:59,932 | Everybody now still--the same people still live here, | Everybody now still--the same people still live here, |
1942 | 01:33:59,933 | 01:34:02,516 | but they've grown up, you know. | but they've grown up, you know. |
1943 | 01:34:02,517 | 01:34:05,057 | Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead | Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead |
1944 | 01:34:05,058 | 01:34:06,599 | or the Airplane or these people-- | or the Airplane or these people-- |
1945 | 01:34:06,600 | 01:34:09,765 | they're no longer 25-year-old youngst-- | they're no longer 25-year-old youngst-- |
1946 | 01:34:09,766 | 01:34:10,974 | How do you char-- | How do you char-- |
1947 | 01:34:10,975 | 01:34:12,640 | Youngsters. - Right. | Youngsters. - Right. |
1948 | 01:34:12,641 | 01:34:14,682 | - They're 35-year-old men, and they've got families. | - They're 35-year-old men, and they've got families. |
1949 | 01:34:14,683 | 01:34:16,308 | So everybody's settled down, don't have the time | So everybody's settled down, don't have the time |
1950 | 01:34:16,309 | 01:34:18,057 | to run around anymore and, you know, | to run around anymore and, you know, |
1951 | 01:34:18,058 | 01:34:19,516 | create all those scenes-- it's not like that. | create all those scenes-- it's not like that. |
1952 | 01:34:19,517 | 01:34:21,224 | And so it's nothing--it was-- | And so it's nothing--it was-- |
1953 | 01:34:21,225 | 01:34:23,185 | it was a natural thing to have happened, you know. | it was a natural thing to have happened, you know. |
1954 | 01:34:25,725 | 01:34:29,224 | By 1977, we were expanding, | By 1977, we were expanding, |
1955 | 01:34:29,225 | 01:34:31,974 | and New York was the only place we could do it, | and New York was the only place we could do it, |
1956 | 01:34:31,975 | 01:34:34,640 | and we were ready to go. | and we were ready to go. |
1957 | 01:34:34,641 | 01:34:36,890 | - ♪ Gotta get up, gotta get out ♪ | - ♪ Gotta get up, gotta get out ♪ |
1958 | 01:34:36,891 | 01:34:39,932 | ♪ Gotta get home before the morning comes ♪ | ♪ Gotta get home before the morning comes ♪ |
1959 | 01:34:39,933 | 01:34:42,057 | ♪ What if I'm late? Got a big date ♪ | ♪ What if I'm late? Got a big date ♪ |
1960 | 01:34:42,058 | 01:34:45,640 | ♪ Gotta get home before the sun comes up ♪ | ♪ Gotta get home before the sun comes up ♪ |
1961 | 01:34:45,641 | 01:34:47,890 | ♪ Up and away, got a big day ♪ | ♪ Up and away, got a big day ♪ |
1962 | 01:34:47,891 | 01:34:51,182 | ♪ Sorry can't stay, I gotta run, run, yeah ♪ | ♪ Sorry can't stay, I gotta run, run, yeah ♪ |
1963 | 01:34:51,183 | 01:34:53,016 | - When I went to New York, it changed a lot. | - When I went to New York, it changed a lot. |
1964 | 01:34:53,017 | 01:34:54,765 | A lot of the original people didn't go. | A lot of the original people didn't go. |
1965 | 01:34:54,766 | 01:34:56,516 | And it was a whole new staff, | And it was a whole new staff, |
1966 | 01:34:56,517 | 01:35:00,099 | and they didn't have the élan and the esprit | and they didn't have the élan and the esprit |
1967 | 01:35:00,100 | 01:35:01,932 | we had in San Francisco. | we had in San Francisco. |
1968 | 01:35:01,933 | 01:35:03,932 | - ♪ There was a time when we could dance ♪ | - ♪ There was a time when we could dance ♪ |
1969 | 01:35:03,933 | 01:35:05,765 | ♪ Until a quarter to 10:00 ♪ | ♪ Until a quarter to 10:00 ♪ |
1970 | 01:35:05,766 | 01:35:09,099 | - "Rolling Stone" should be, by its existence, | - "Rolling Stone" should be, by its existence, |
1971 | 01:35:09,100 | 01:35:12,308 | somehow threatening to the establishment. | somehow threatening to the establishment. |
1972 | 01:35:12,309 | 01:35:16,474 | Instead, it's become the establishment in a way. | Instead, it's become the establishment in a way. |
1973 | 01:35:16,475 | 01:35:19,266 | - ♪ We never thought we'd get older ♪ | - ♪ We never thought we'd get older ♪ |
1974 | 01:35:19,267 | 01:35:23,182 | ♪ We never thought we'd grow cold, but now... ♪ | ♪ We never thought we'd grow cold, but now... ♪ |
1975 | 01:35:23,183 | 01:35:27,016 | - Jann's fundamental conundrum is that, uh, | - Jann's fundamental conundrum is that, uh, |
1976 | 01:35:27,017 | 01:35:30,474 | his whole gestalt was based on music and the power of music, | his whole gestalt was based on music and the power of music, |
1977 | 01:35:30,475 | 01:35:33,474 | that rock and roll will set you free. | that rock and roll will set you free. |
1978 | 01:35:33,475 | 01:35:35,516 | Well, rock and roll no longer sets you free. | Well, rock and roll no longer sets you free. |
1979 | 01:35:35,517 | 01:35:37,349 | It's Muzak now. | It's Muzak now. |
1980 | 01:35:37,350 | 01:35:39,724 | Um, and it's no longer threatening. | Um, and it's no longer threatening. |
1981 | 01:35:39,725 | 01:35:41,308 | It's no longer revolutionary. | It's no longer revolutionary. |
1982 | 01:35:41,309 | 01:35:43,224 | It's just a big billion-dollar industry. | It's just a big billion-dollar industry. |
1983 | 01:35:43,225 | 01:35:44,932 | So, if you've attached your whole life | So, if you've attached your whole life |
1984 | 01:35:44,933 | 01:35:46,765 | and your editorial genius to that concept | and your editorial genius to that concept |
1985 | 01:35:46,766 | 01:35:49,224 | and all of a sudden it changes, what do you do? | and all of a sudden it changes, what do you do? |
1986 | 01:35:49,225 | 01:35:51,724 | - ♪ Hey, ho, let's go ♪ | - ♪ Hey, ho, let's go ♪ |
1987 | 01:35:51,725 | 01:35:54,182 | ♪ Hey, ho, let's go ♪ | ♪ Hey, ho, let's go ♪ |
1988 | 01:35:54,183 | 01:35:56,765 | ♪ They're forming in a straight line ♪ | ♪ They're forming in a straight line ♪ |
1989 | 01:35:56,766 | 01:35:59,516 | ♪ They're going through a tight wind ♪ | ♪ They're going through a tight wind ♪ |
1990 | 01:35:59,517 | 01:36:01,640 | ♪ The kids are losing their minds ♪ | ♪ The kids are losing their minds ♪ |
1991 | 01:36:01,641 | 01:36:03,474 | ♪ Blitzkrieg bop ♪ | ♪ Blitzkrieg bop ♪ |
1992 | 01:36:03,475 | 01:36:06,391 | - Hippie rock had really dominated things for so long. | - Hippie rock had really dominated things for so long. |
1993 | 01:36:06,392 | 01:36:08,391 | The idea of sitting around and smoking dope | The idea of sitting around and smoking dope |
1994 | 01:36:08,392 | 01:36:12,099 | and nodding off just was not really appealing | and nodding off just was not really appealing |
1995 | 01:36:12,100 | 01:36:15,558 | to people who were like, you know, 15. | to people who were like, you know, 15. |
1996 | 01:36:15,559 | 01:36:18,141 | They don't want to do that. "My dad does that." | They don't want to do that. "My dad does that." |
1997 | 01:36:18,142 | 01:36:20,057 | You just were yearning for something | You just were yearning for something |
1998 | 01:36:20,058 | 01:36:23,599 | to come along and blow that away, and punk rock did. | to come along and blow that away, and punk rock did. |
1999 | 01:36:23,600 | 01:36:25,724 | - ♪ Hey, ho, let's go ♪ | - ♪ Hey, ho, let's go ♪ |
2000 | 01:36:25,725 | 01:36:28,516 | ♪ Hey, ho, let's go ♪ | ♪ Hey, ho, let's go ♪ |
2001 | 01:36:28,517 | 01:36:30,099 | - You could trace it back | - You could trace it back |
2002 | 01:36:30,100 | 01:36:31,974 | to Iggy and the Stooges in Detroit. | to Iggy and the Stooges in Detroit. |
2003 | 01:36:31,975 | 01:36:34,224 | You could trace it back to Elvis Presley. | You could trace it back to Elvis Presley. |
2004 | 01:36:34,225 | 01:36:36,516 | You could trace it back as far as you want, uh, | You could trace it back as far as you want, uh, |
2005 | 01:36:36,517 | 01:36:38,516 | but, you know, the clothing | but, you know, the clothing |
2006 | 01:36:38,517 | 01:36:42,224 | and the loud, fast guitars-- that started in New York. | and the loud, fast guitars-- that started in New York. |
2007 | 01:36:42,225 | 01:36:44,057 | And it started at CBGB. | And it started at CBGB. |
2008 | 01:36:48,559 | 01:36:50,182 | - First time I saw the Ramones | - First time I saw the Ramones |
2009 | 01:36:50,183 | 01:36:53,391 | was in the summer of 1975. | was in the summer of 1975. |
2010 | 01:36:53,392 | 01:36:56,890 | It was like nothing I'd--I'd heard. | It was like nothing I'd--I'd heard. |
2011 | 01:36:56,891 | 01:37:00,057 | Everything you heard on the radio was either disco | Everything you heard on the radio was either disco |
2012 | 01:37:00,058 | 01:37:03,890 | or Linda Ronstadt, Eagles, soft rock axis, | or Linda Ronstadt, Eagles, soft rock axis, |
2013 | 01:37:03,891 | 01:37:07,308 | that after a while just got to be boring. | that after a while just got to be boring. |
2014 | 01:37:07,309 | 01:37:10,682 | And the Ramones went out there, and they blew me away. | And the Ramones went out there, and they blew me away. |
2015 | 01:37:10,683 | 01:37:12,849 | And I stayed around for two sets | And I stayed around for two sets |
2016 | 01:37:12,850 | 01:37:14,807 | until about 3:00 in the morning with this girl | until about 3:00 in the morning with this girl |
2017 | 01:37:14,808 | 01:37:16,890 | who didn't want to stick around for any of it at all, | who didn't want to stick around for any of it at all, |
2018 | 01:37:16,891 | 01:37:19,224 | but she was afraid to go home alone, | but she was afraid to go home alone, |
2019 | 01:37:19,225 | 01:37:21,724 | so we stayed for the whole thing. | so we stayed for the whole thing. |
2020 | 01:37:24,017 | 01:37:26,016 | - I met Chuck when we moved to New York. | - I met Chuck when we moved to New York. |
2021 | 01:37:26,017 | 01:37:29,433 | He never was part of the West Coast operation. | He never was part of the West Coast operation. |
2022 | 01:37:29,434 | 01:37:32,016 | And I don't know. We just hit it off. | And I don't know. We just hit it off. |
2023 | 01:37:32,017 | 01:37:33,890 | He was ten years younger than me, | He was ten years younger than me, |
2024 | 01:37:33,891 | 01:37:38,016 | and he just had his finger on what was happening. | and he just had his finger on what was happening. |
2025 | 01:37:38,017 | 01:37:40,765 | He introduced me to CBGB's and punk music. | He introduced me to CBGB's and punk music. |
2026 | 01:37:40,766 | 01:37:42,849 | - Okay, what we've got-- okay, there's two pages | - Okay, what we've got-- okay, there's two pages |
2027 | 01:37:42,850 | 01:37:45,266 | scheduled for--it's gonna be about 4,000 words. | scheduled for--it's gonna be about 4,000 words. |
2028 | 01:37:45,267 | 01:37:48,474 | - One time we were having an editorial meeting. | - One time we were having an editorial meeting. |
2029 | 01:37:48,475 | 01:37:50,765 | We were talking about serious stuff | We were talking about serious stuff |
2030 | 01:37:50,766 | 01:37:54,224 | and, you know, editorial shit. | and, you know, editorial shit. |
2031 | 01:37:54,225 | 01:37:56,266 | All of a sudden, the door breaks open, | All of a sudden, the door breaks open, |
2032 | 01:37:56,267 | 01:37:59,599 | and it's Chuck, but he came out with this weird hair, | and it's Chuck, but he came out with this weird hair, |
2033 | 01:37:59,600 | 01:38:01,474 | and he looked entirely different, | and he looked entirely different, |
2034 | 01:38:01,475 | 01:38:03,349 | and he had a boom box, | and he had a boom box, |
2035 | 01:38:03,350 | 01:38:07,433 | which he put down and he just started miming this song. | which he put down and he just started miming this song. |
2036 | 01:38:07,434 | 01:38:10,765 | - ♪ I got no reason, it's all too much ♪ | - ♪ I got no reason, it's all too much ♪ |
2037 | 01:38:10,766 | 01:38:13,016 | ♪ You'll always find us ♪ | ♪ You'll always find us ♪ |
2038 | 01:38:13,017 | 01:38:15,391 | - It was the first time I heard the Sex Pistols. | - It was the first time I heard the Sex Pistols. |
2039 | 01:38:15,392 | 01:38:17,599 | - ♪ Out to lunch ♪ | - ♪ Out to lunch ♪ |
2040 | 01:38:19,350 | 01:38:23,974 | ♪ Oh, we're so pretty, oh, so pretty ♪ | ♪ Oh, we're so pretty, oh, so pretty ♪ |
2041 | 01:38:23,975 | 01:38:26,433 | ♪ We're vacant, oh, we're so pretty ♪ | ♪ We're vacant, oh, we're so pretty ♪ |
2042 | 01:38:26,434 | 01:38:28,599 | - It wasn't just the fact that Chuck was young | - It wasn't just the fact that Chuck was young |
2043 | 01:38:28,600 | 01:38:32,516 | and outrageous and disruptive and the music was, too. | and outrageous and disruptive and the music was, too. |
2044 | 01:38:32,517 | 01:38:36,516 | He saw that this was valid musically. | He saw that this was valid musically. |
2045 | 01:38:36,517 | 01:38:38,724 | - Chuck Young's cover story on the Sex Pistols | - Chuck Young's cover story on the Sex Pistols |
2046 | 01:38:38,725 | 01:38:41,974 | I think, was an experiment that Jann sort of | I think, was an experiment that Jann sort of |
2047 | 01:38:41,975 | 01:38:43,682 | allowed to go forward. | allowed to go forward. |
2048 | 01:38:43,683 | 01:38:46,807 | I don't think he saw much future in this. | I don't think he saw much future in this. |
2049 | 01:38:48,600 | 01:38:50,308 | - A little before midnight, | - A little before midnight, |
2050 | 01:38:50,309 | 01:38:54,099 | my taxi arrives at a club called the Vortex. | my taxi arrives at a club called the Vortex. |
2051 | 01:38:54,100 | 01:38:57,433 | - ♪ Is this the MPLA? ♪ | - ♪ Is this the MPLA? ♪ |
2052 | 01:38:57,434 | 01:39:01,099 | ♪ Or is this the UDA? ♪ | ♪ Or is this the UDA? ♪ |
2053 | 01:39:01,100 | 01:39:04,807 | ♪ Or is this the IRA? ♪ | ♪ Or is this the IRA? ♪ |
2054 | 01:39:04,808 | 01:39:08,682 | ♪ I thought it was the U.K. ♪ | ♪ I thought it was the U.K. ♪ |
2055 | 01:39:08,683 | 01:39:10,558 | - The dense crowd inside consists | - The dense crowd inside consists |
2056 | 01:39:10,559 | 01:39:14,266 | of cadaverous teenagers dressed in black or gray. | of cadaverous teenagers dressed in black or gray. |
2057 | 01:39:14,267 | 01:39:16,932 | Johnny Rotten, blessed with a demented anger | Johnny Rotten, blessed with a demented anger |
2058 | 01:39:16,933 | 01:39:19,391 | unseen outside a war zone, declared himself | unseen outside a war zone, declared himself |
2059 | 01:39:19,392 | 01:39:22,724 | an Antichrist who wanted to destroy everything. | an Antichrist who wanted to destroy everything. |
2060 | 01:39:22,725 | 01:39:24,266 | The BBC was not amused | The BBC was not amused |
2061 | 01:39:24,267 | 01:39:26,890 | and gave the Sex Pistols no airplay. | and gave the Sex Pistols no airplay. |
2062 | 01:39:26,891 | 01:39:28,682 | - ♪ I want to be ♪ | - ♪ I want to be ♪ |
2063 | 01:39:28,683 | 01:39:31,808 | ♪ Anarchy ♪ | ♪ Anarchy ♪ |
2064 | 01:39:51,350 | 01:39:53,141 | ♪ Anarchy ♪ | ♪ Anarchy ♪ |
2065 | 01:39:53,142 | 01:39:59,349 | ♪ 'Cause I want to be ♪ | ♪ 'Cause I want to be ♪ |
2066 | 01:39:59,350 | 01:40:02,057 | ♪ Anarchy ♪ | ♪ Anarchy ♪ |
2067 | 01:40:02,058 | 01:40:04,932 | - When you stood up and started singing | - When you stood up and started singing |
2068 | 01:40:04,933 | 01:40:08,182 | for the first time, what happened? | for the first time, what happened? |
2069 | 01:40:08,183 | 01:40:10,558 | - Go on, John. Go on. - It was wonderful. | - Go on, John. Go on. - It was wonderful. |
2070 | 01:40:10,559 | 01:40:12,016 | - No, come on. | - No, come on. |
2071 | 01:40:12,017 | 01:40:14,558 | - People loved me. They threw flowers. | - People loved me. They threw flowers. |
2072 | 01:40:14,559 | 01:40:16,558 | - What do you think about bands like the Stones? | - What do you think about bands like the Stones? |
2073 | 01:40:16,559 | 01:40:20,057 | I don't. | I don't. |
2074 | 01:40:20,058 | 01:40:21,724 | - I don't even consider them a band. | - I don't even consider them a band. |
2075 | 01:40:21,725 | 01:40:23,599 | They're more like a business. | They're more like a business. |
2076 | 01:40:23,600 | 01:40:26,182 | - Do you think they're relevant to the kids, 16, 17? | - Do you think they're relevant to the kids, 16, 17? |
2077 | 01:40:26,183 | 01:40:28,640 | - Of course they're not. | - Of course they're not. |
2078 | 01:40:28,641 | 01:40:31,932 | Relevant to their mums and dads, but that's about all. | Relevant to their mums and dads, but that's about all. |
2079 | 01:40:31,933 | 01:40:34,099 | - What about bands like Rod Stewart? | - What about bands like Rod Stewart? |
2080 | 01:40:34,100 | 01:40:35,974 | - What about him? - Mums and dads. | - What about him? - Mums and dads. |
2081 | 01:40:35,975 | 01:40:38,474 | - He's all-around, isn't he? All-around entertainment. | - He's all-around, isn't he? All-around entertainment. |
2082 | 01:40:38,475 | 01:40:39,849 | - He's an old. | - He's an old. |
2083 | 01:40:39,850 | 01:40:41,640 | - ♪ Hear me ♪ | - ♪ Hear me ♪ |
2084 | 01:40:41,641 | 01:40:45,433 | - ♪ Through the dark night ♪ | - ♪ Through the dark night ♪ |
2085 | 01:40:45,434 | 01:40:48,765 | ♪ Far away ♪ | ♪ Far away ♪ |
2086 | 01:40:48,766 | 01:40:51,765 | - The Sex Pistols chose not the politics of boredom, | - The Sex Pistols chose not the politics of boredom, |
2087 | 01:40:51,766 | 01:40:53,558 | but the politics of division. | but the politics of division. |
2088 | 01:40:53,559 | 01:40:56,016 | Amputate the wanking '60s liberals | Amputate the wanking '60s liberals |
2089 | 01:40:56,017 | 01:40:58,099 | from their working-class support. | from their working-class support. |
2090 | 01:40:58,100 | 01:41:00,308 | "The kids needed a sense of adventure, | "The kids needed a sense of adventure, |
2091 | 01:41:00,309 | 01:41:02,141 | "and rock and roll needs to find a way | "and rock and roll needs to find a way |
2092 | 01:41:02,142 | 01:41:04,266 | to give it to them," says Malcolm McLaren, | to give it to them," says Malcolm McLaren, |
2093 | 01:41:04,267 | 01:41:06,890 | the manager of the Sex Pistols. | the manager of the Sex Pistols. |
2094 | 01:41:06,891 | 01:41:11,016 | - It didn't take much to set something up | - It didn't take much to set something up |
2095 | 01:41:11,017 | 01:41:14,182 | opposite everything the industry | opposite everything the industry |
2096 | 01:41:14,183 | 01:41:16,182 | had recognized as good, | had recognized as good, |
2097 | 01:41:16,183 | 01:41:20,599 | which meant all this incredible corporate thinking, | which meant all this incredible corporate thinking, |
2098 | 01:41:20,600 | 01:41:24,182 | all this legacy of pop music | all this legacy of pop music |
2099 | 01:41:24,183 | 01:41:27,391 | was suddenly having a huge stake | was suddenly having a huge stake |
2100 | 01:41:27,392 | 01:41:30,182 | driven through its heart by the Sex Pistols, | driven through its heart by the Sex Pistols, |
2101 | 01:41:30,183 | 01:41:34,057 | and they had legions of followers wanting more. | and they had legions of followers wanting more. |
2102 | 01:41:47,350 | 01:41:49,932 | See, this group was put together | See, this group was put together |
2103 | 01:41:49,933 | 01:41:52,807 | not because they were friends. | not because they were friends. |
2104 | 01:41:52,808 | 01:41:56,849 | They didn't really, genuinely have anything in common | They didn't really, genuinely have anything in common |
2105 | 01:41:56,850 | 01:42:01,224 | other than the fact that they hated everything else. | other than the fact that they hated everything else. |
2106 | 01:42:02,850 | 01:42:04,433 | - We aren't nice boys. | - We aren't nice boys. |
2107 | 01:42:04,434 | 01:42:07,392 | We were fucking nasty little bastards. | We were fucking nasty little bastards. |
2108 | 01:42:09,350 | 01:42:11,558 | And we still are. | And we still are. |
2109 | 01:42:11,559 | 01:42:14,141 | - Sid Vicious is about as close as rock and roll | - Sid Vicious is about as close as rock and roll |
2110 | 01:42:14,142 | 01:42:15,765 | is going to come to Huckleberry Finn | is going to come to Huckleberry Finn |
2111 | 01:42:15,766 | 01:42:17,558 | in this decade. | in this decade. |
2112 | 01:42:17,559 | 01:42:20,141 | His voice has a tone of goofy absurdity. | His voice has a tone of goofy absurdity. |
2113 | 01:42:20,142 | 01:42:21,849 | - Here, want one of these? | - Here, want one of these? |
2114 | 01:42:21,850 | 01:42:23,349 | - Something like Ringo Starr's, | - Something like Ringo Starr's, |
2115 | 01:42:23,350 | 01:42:24,599 | though he'd hate that analogy. | though he'd hate that analogy. |
2116 | 01:42:24,600 | 01:42:26,182 | - Who else wants something? | - Who else wants something? |
2117 | 01:42:26,183 | 01:42:28,807 | Come on if you want something, you cunts. | Come on if you want something, you cunts. |
2118 | 01:42:28,808 | 01:42:32,474 | - His teeth appear not to have been brushed in several years, | - His teeth appear not to have been brushed in several years, |
2119 | 01:42:32,475 | 01:42:34,224 | his hair is about two inches long | his hair is about two inches long |
2120 | 01:42:34,225 | 01:42:36,224 | and sticks straight out at odd angles. | and sticks straight out at odd angles. |
2121 | 01:42:36,225 | 01:42:40,057 | Several bright red scars highlight his solar plexus. | Several bright red scars highlight his solar plexus. |
2122 | 01:42:40,058 | 01:42:41,724 | - All I did was cash in on the fact | - All I did was cash in on the fact |
2123 | 01:42:41,725 | 01:42:44,308 | that I'm good-looking and I have a good figure | that I'm good-looking and I have a good figure |
2124 | 01:42:44,309 | 01:42:46,182 | and girls like me. | and girls like me. |
2125 | 01:42:46,183 | 01:42:50,182 | If they want a fucking angel in flairs and an anorak-- | If they want a fucking angel in flairs and an anorak-- |
2126 | 01:42:50,183 | 01:42:52,266 | 'cause if they want that, | 'cause if they want that, |
2127 | 01:42:52,267 | 01:42:55,765 | that ain't me, baby. | that ain't me, baby. |
2128 | 01:42:55,766 | 01:42:58,141 | - This summer the Pistols have been careening | - This summer the Pistols have been careening |
2129 | 01:42:58,142 | 01:43:00,558 | in overexposure in their homeland. | in overexposure in their homeland. |
2130 | 01:43:00,559 | 01:43:02,807 | The four major music weeklies have mentioned them | The four major music weeklies have mentioned them |
2131 | 01:43:02,808 | 01:43:05,391 | on the cover of almost every issue for months. | on the cover of almost every issue for months. |
2132 | 01:43:05,392 | 01:43:07,890 | Taking punk lyrics at their literal word, | Taking punk lyrics at their literal word, |
2133 | 01:43:07,891 | 01:43:09,849 | the dailies regularly proclaim | the dailies regularly proclaim |
2134 | 01:43:09,850 | 01:43:13,099 | the movement as the end of Western civilization. | the movement as the end of Western civilization. |
2135 | 01:43:13,100 | 01:43:14,932 | - And, okay, you want to get your music across, | - And, okay, you want to get your music across, |
2136 | 01:43:14,933 | 01:43:17,516 | but do you feel maybe the fact that you can't do | but do you feel maybe the fact that you can't do |
2137 | 01:43:17,517 | 01:43:19,849 | that commercially is because of the way that you behave? | that commercially is because of the way that you behave? |
2138 | 01:43:21,517 | 01:43:23,266 | - Since they are banned everywhere, | - Since they are banned everywhere, |
2139 | 01:43:23,267 | 01:43:25,599 | they will be playing under assumed names. | they will be playing under assumed names. |
2140 | 01:43:25,600 | 01:43:27,849 | Tonight they're going to be The SPOTS, | Tonight they're going to be The SPOTS, |
2141 | 01:43:27,850 | 01:43:32,141 | an acronym for the Sex Pistols on Tour Secretly. | an acronym for the Sex Pistols on Tour Secretly. |
2142 | 01:43:32,142 | 01:43:33,724 | The club is in the middle of a tough, | The club is in the middle of a tough, |
2143 | 01:43:33,725 | 01:43:35,349 | working-class neighborhood. | working-class neighborhood. |
2144 | 01:43:35,350 | 01:43:37,433 | Inside it is already packed with people | Inside it is already packed with people |
2145 | 01:43:37,434 | 01:43:39,849 | in their late teens and early 20s. | in their late teens and early 20s. |
2146 | 01:43:59,058 | 01:44:00,932 | - The crush around the foot-high stage | - The crush around the foot-high stage |
2147 | 01:44:00,933 | 01:44:02,807 | is literally unbelievable, and skirmishes | is literally unbelievable, and skirmishes |
2148 | 01:44:02,808 | 01:44:05,141 | with the security men immediately erupt. | with the security men immediately erupt. |
2149 | 01:44:05,142 | 01:44:07,807 | Some kid has put his fist through one of the speakers | Some kid has put his fist through one of the speakers |
2150 | 01:44:07,808 | 01:44:09,599 | and a few more stomp on wires | and a few more stomp on wires |
2151 | 01:44:09,600 | 01:44:11,599 | and knock over electronic equipment. | and knock over electronic equipment. |
2152 | 01:44:11,600 | 01:44:13,765 | The ten-foot stacks of PA speakers are rocking | The ten-foot stacks of PA speakers are rocking |
2153 | 01:44:13,766 | 01:44:15,599 | back and forth and are dangerously close | back and forth and are dangerously close |
2154 | 01:44:15,600 | 01:44:17,099 | to toppling over. | to toppling over. |
2155 | 01:44:19,434 | 01:44:21,141 | - I don't like it. | - I don't like it. |
2156 | 01:44:21,142 | 01:44:22,599 | I didn't like it then, | I didn't like it then, |
2157 | 01:44:22,600 | 01:44:24,474 | and I don't particularly care for it now. | and I don't particularly care for it now. |
2158 | 01:44:24,475 | 01:44:26,890 | So, you know, I took a little persuading. | So, you know, I took a little persuading. |
2159 | 01:44:26,891 | 01:44:28,516 | If there's something you don't like, | If there's something you don't like, |
2160 | 01:44:28,517 | 01:44:30,391 | you still have to be open to it, | you still have to be open to it, |
2161 | 01:44:30,392 | 01:44:32,724 | and you wait till a constituency | and you wait till a constituency |
2162 | 01:44:32,725 | 01:44:34,890 | within the office kind of builds towards it, | within the office kind of builds towards it, |
2163 | 01:44:34,891 | 01:44:36,765 | and all of a sudden, you got three or four people | and all of a sudden, you got three or four people |
2164 | 01:44:36,766 | 01:44:39,433 | you respect, like Chuck, saying, "We got to do it." | you respect, like Chuck, saying, "We got to do it." |
2165 | 01:44:39,434 | 01:44:43,349 | You know, and so you say, "Do it." | You know, and so you say, "Do it." |
2166 | 01:44:43,350 | 01:44:45,141 | - This is a great story about Chuck Young, | - This is a great story about Chuck Young, |
2167 | 01:44:45,142 | 01:44:47,057 | who's just a silly, crazy guy. | who's just a silly, crazy guy. |
2168 | 01:44:47,058 | 01:44:49,099 | We were going to do the Sex Pistols. | We were going to do the Sex Pistols. |
2169 | 01:44:49,100 | 01:44:52,516 | They were playing in Texas, and we got to the airport, | They were playing in Texas, and we got to the airport, |
2170 | 01:44:52,517 | 01:44:54,807 | and our plane wasn't gonna fly. | and our plane wasn't gonna fly. |
2171 | 01:44:54,808 | 01:44:57,182 | So Chuck said, "Let's drive." | So Chuck said, "Let's drive." |
2172 | 01:44:57,183 | 01:45:00,016 | So we drove to Texas. | So we drove to Texas. |
2173 | 01:45:00,017 | 01:45:02,391 | - From New York? - From New York. | - From New York? - From New York. |
2174 | 01:45:02,392 | 01:45:03,974 | - Oh, my God. Wow! | - Oh, my God. Wow! |
2175 | 01:45:03,975 | 01:45:06,182 | - And we got there just-- And we're the crazy-- | - And we got there just-- And we're the crazy-- |
2176 | 01:45:06,183 | 01:45:07,890 | We got there just in time. | We got there just in time. |
2177 | 01:45:07,891 | 01:45:10,558 | They were putting the-- You know, we drove all night. | They were putting the-- You know, we drove all night. |
2178 | 01:45:10,559 | 01:45:13,099 | And this--you know, they're just putting the sign up | And this--you know, they're just putting the sign up |
2179 | 01:45:13,100 | 01:45:16,182 | on this really-- this dive, you know, | on this really-- this dive, you know, |
2180 | 01:45:16,183 | 01:45:18,765 | where the Sex Pistols played. | where the Sex Pistols played. |
2181 | 01:45:18,766 | 01:45:21,182 | That's a real "Rolling Stone" story. | That's a real "Rolling Stone" story. |
2182 | 01:45:21,183 | 01:45:23,890 | Chuck Young, "Okay, let's just--let's just drive." | Chuck Young, "Okay, let's just--let's just drive." |
2183 | 01:45:23,891 | 01:45:26,849 | So... | So... |
2184 | 01:45:26,850 | 01:45:29,599 | Anyway... | Anyway... |
2185 | 01:45:29,600 | 01:45:30,890 | Jann... | Jann... |
2186 | 01:45:30,891 | 01:45:32,516 | uh, you know that you | uh, you know that you |
2187 | 01:45:32,517 | 01:45:35,016 | took that photograph and ran it | took that photograph and ran it |
2188 | 01:45:35,017 | 01:45:36,765 | on the cover with no type. | on the cover with no type. |
2189 | 01:45:36,766 | 01:45:40,682 | I mean, it, um-- it said it all. | I mean, it, um-- it said it all. |
2190 | 01:45:40,683 | 01:45:45,765 | You know, you--you-- you--you just-- | You know, you--you-- you--you just-- |
2191 | 01:45:45,766 | 01:45:48,308 | You know... | You know... |
2192 | 01:45:48,309 | 01:45:51,807 | - Two, three, four. | - Two, three, four. |
2193 | 01:45:51,808 | 01:45:56,224 | For the other half of the sky. | For the other half of the sky. |
2194 | 01:45:56,225 | 01:45:58,724 | ♪ Woman ♪ | ♪ Woman ♪ |
2195 | 01:45:58,725 | 01:46:02,765 | ♪ I can hardly express ♪ | ♪ I can hardly express ♪ |
2196 | 01:46:02,766 | 01:46:04,765 | ♪ My mixed emotions ♪ | ♪ My mixed emotions ♪ |
2197 | 01:46:04,766 | 01:46:08,765 | ♪ At my thoughtlessness ♪ | ♪ At my thoughtlessness ♪ |
2198 | 01:46:08,766 | 01:46:14,099 | ♪ After all, I'm forever in your debt ♪ | ♪ After all, I'm forever in your debt ♪ |
2199 | 01:46:14,100 | 01:46:15,932 | ♪ And, woman ♪ | ♪ And, woman ♪ |
2200 | 01:46:15,933 | 01:46:18,724 | - They had just finished their "Double Fantasy" album. | - They had just finished their "Double Fantasy" album. |
2201 | 01:46:18,725 | 01:46:20,349 | I remember seeing the cover | I remember seeing the cover |
2202 | 01:46:20,350 | 01:46:23,765 | and being very, uh, moved by it... | and being very, uh, moved by it... |
2203 | 01:46:23,766 | 01:46:25,516 | because this was 1980. | because this was 1980. |
2204 | 01:46:25,517 | 01:46:27,932 | Romance was not exactly number one on-- | Romance was not exactly number one on-- |
2205 | 01:46:27,933 | 01:46:29,682 | On anyone's list. | On anyone's list. |
2206 | 01:46:29,683 | 01:46:33,266 | And--and I was very moved by seeing them kiss on that-- | And--and I was very moved by seeing them kiss on that-- |
2207 | 01:46:33,267 | 01:46:35,141 | on their album cover, and I thought, | on their album cover, and I thought, |
2208 | 01:46:35,142 | 01:46:38,974 | "How simple, you know, how beautiful, you know." | "How simple, you know, how beautiful, you know." |
2209 | 01:46:38,975 | 01:46:43,474 | And I wanted to try something of them, um, | And I wanted to try something of them, um, |
2210 | 01:46:43,475 | 01:46:45,599 | of John and Yoko embracing. | of John and Yoko embracing. |
2211 | 01:46:54,641 | 01:46:56,932 | ♪ Well, well ♪ | ♪ Well, well ♪ |
2212 | 01:47:01,309 | 01:47:03,141 | ♪ Woman ♪ | ♪ Woman ♪ |
2213 | 01:47:03,142 | 01:47:05,349 | - I remember arriving at the apartment that morning, | - I remember arriving at the apartment that morning, |
2214 | 01:47:05,350 | 01:47:08,266 | and John taking me aside and saying, | and John taking me aside and saying, |
2215 | 01:47:08,267 | 01:47:10,433 | "Listen, you know, I know they want to run me | "Listen, you know, I know they want to run me |
2216 | 01:47:10,434 | 01:47:13,057 | "by myself on the cover, you know, but I don't want-- | "by myself on the cover, you know, but I don't want-- |
2217 | 01:47:13,058 | 01:47:15,558 | "I mean, I really want Yoko to be on the cover with me. | "I mean, I really want Yoko to be on the cover with me. |
2218 | 01:47:15,559 | 01:47:17,433 | It's really important." | It's really important." |
2219 | 01:47:17,434 | 01:47:19,308 | I said, "Well, we'll just have to do something | I said, "Well, we'll just have to do something |
2220 | 01:47:19,309 | 01:47:21,599 | very, very strong." | very, very strong." |
2221 | 01:47:21,600 | 01:47:24,849 | And Yoko, you know, at the last minute did not want | And Yoko, you know, at the last minute did not want |
2222 | 01:47:24,850 | 01:47:27,016 | to take her clothes off. | to take her clothes off. |
2223 | 01:47:27,017 | 01:47:29,724 | So, of course, when they lay down together and John was-- | So, of course, when they lay down together and John was-- |
2224 | 01:47:29,725 | 01:47:34,433 | John was nude, curled up, you know, against her clothed, | John was nude, curled up, you know, against her clothed, |
2225 | 01:47:34,434 | 01:47:36,724 | I mean, he looked much more vulnerable. | I mean, he looked much more vulnerable. |
2226 | 01:47:36,725 | 01:47:39,099 | - ♪ Well, well ♪ | - ♪ Well, well ♪ |
2227 | 01:47:41,891 | 01:47:44,099 | - I remember peeling the Polaroid | - I remember peeling the Polaroid |
2228 | 01:47:44,100 | 01:47:46,182 | and him looking at it and saying, | and him looking at it and saying, |
2229 | 01:47:46,183 | 01:47:48,349 | "This is it. This is our relationship." | "This is it. This is our relationship." |
2230 | 01:47:48,350 | 01:47:51,516 | - ♪ Now and forever ♪ | - ♪ Now and forever ♪ |
2231 | 01:47:51,517 | 01:47:54,890 | ♪ I love ♪ | ♪ I love ♪ |
2232 | 01:47:54,891 | 01:47:56,349 | ♪ You ♪ | ♪ You ♪ |
2233 | 01:47:56,350 | 01:47:58,682 | - I'm in love with you. | - I'm in love with you. |
2234 | 01:47:58,683 | 01:48:02,349 | - Unfortunately, I'm in love with you, too. | - Unfortunately, I'm in love with you, too. |
2235 | 01:48:02,350 | 01:48:06,349 | - But in the end, I think we'll agree. | - But in the end, I think we'll agree. |
2236 | 01:48:06,350 | 01:48:08,849 | - Fortunately, we don't know. | - Fortunately, we don't know. |
2237 | 01:48:08,850 | 01:48:11,058 | But in the end, we'll find out. | But in the end, we'll find out. |
2238 | 01:48:12,808 | 01:48:15,057 | - That was the last picture of him. | - That was the last picture of him. |
2239 | 01:48:15,058 | 01:48:19,224 | Several hours later, John was murdered. | Several hours later, John was murdered. |
2240 | 01:48:19,225 | 01:48:21,558 | December 8, 1980. | December 8, 1980. |
2241 | 01:48:24,891 | 01:48:27,682 | - "Man shot, 1 West 72nd," | - "Man shot, 1 West 72nd," |
2242 | 01:48:27,683 | 01:48:32,016 | was the call on the police radio just before 11:00 p.m. | was the call on the police radio just before 11:00 p.m. |
2243 | 01:48:32,017 | 01:48:33,724 | Officers Jim Moran and Bill Gamble | Officers Jim Moran and Bill Gamble |
2244 | 01:48:33,725 | 01:48:35,266 | were in the third blue-and-white | were in the third blue-and-white |
2245 | 01:48:35,267 | 01:48:36,890 | that screamed to a halt | that screamed to a halt |
2246 | 01:48:36,891 | 01:48:39,474 | outside the Dakota apartment building. | outside the Dakota apartment building. |
2247 | 01:48:39,475 | 01:48:41,099 | The man who had been shot | The man who had been shot |
2248 | 01:48:41,100 | 01:48:43,266 | couldn't wait for an ambulance. | couldn't wait for an ambulance. |
2249 | 01:48:43,267 | 01:48:45,474 | They stretched him out on the back seat of their car | They stretched him out on the back seat of their car |
2250 | 01:48:45,475 | 01:48:47,391 | and raced to Roosevelt Hospital | and raced to Roosevelt Hospital |
2251 | 01:48:47,392 | 01:48:50,016 | at the corner of 59th Street and 9th Avenue. | at the corner of 59th Street and 9th Avenue. |
2252 | 01:48:50,017 | 01:48:52,266 | They lifted the bloody body onto a gurney | They lifted the bloody body onto a gurney |
2253 | 01:48:52,267 | 01:48:54,599 | and wheeled it into the emergency room. | and wheeled it into the emergency room. |
2254 | 01:48:54,600 | 01:48:56,890 | There was nothing the doctors could do. | There was nothing the doctors could do. |
2255 | 01:48:56,891 | 01:49:01,765 | They pronounced John Lennon dead at 11:07 p.m. | They pronounced John Lennon dead at 11:07 p.m. |
2256 | 01:49:01,766 | 01:49:05,640 | - ♪ We're afraid to be alone ♪ | - ♪ We're afraid to be alone ♪ |
2257 | 01:49:05,641 | 01:49:10,099 | - It's a tragedy for Yoko and her little kid. | - It's a tragedy for Yoko and her little kid. |
2258 | 01:49:10,100 | 01:49:11,974 | What did it say about our times? | What did it say about our times? |
2259 | 01:49:11,975 | 01:49:14,182 | What did it say about music itself? | What did it say about music itself? |
2260 | 01:49:14,183 | 01:49:17,890 | Was all this violence hidden within it? | Was all this violence hidden within it? |
2261 | 01:49:17,891 | 01:49:22,266 | - ♪ Just a boy and a little girl ♪ | - ♪ Just a boy and a little girl ♪ |
2262 | 01:49:22,267 | 01:49:26,057 | ♪ Trying to change the whole wide world ♪ | ♪ Trying to change the whole wide world ♪ |
2263 | 01:49:26,058 | 01:49:29,224 | ♪ I... ♪ | ♪ I... ♪ |
2264 | 01:49:29,225 | 01:49:32,141 | ♪ ..solation ♪ | ♪ ..solation ♪ |
2265 | 01:49:32,142 | 01:49:35,474 | - You know, is this-- did it have some seeds of evil? | - You know, is this-- did it have some seeds of evil? |
2266 | 01:49:35,475 | 01:49:39,807 | Who could do such a thing? I mean, it's just a musician. | Who could do such a thing? I mean, it's just a musician. |
2267 | 01:49:39,808 | 01:49:41,558 | - You knew him personally. | - You knew him personally. |
2268 | 01:49:41,559 | 01:49:44,391 | - Yep. - What was he like? | - Yep. - What was he like? |
2269 | 01:49:44,392 | 01:49:46,558 | - Oh, he was warm, and he was very witty, | - Oh, he was warm, and he was very witty, |
2270 | 01:49:46,559 | 01:49:50,724 | very funny and very intense. | very funny and very intense. |
2271 | 01:49:50,725 | 01:49:52,974 | John and the Beatles are a part of everybody's lives, | John and the Beatles are a part of everybody's lives, |
2272 | 01:49:52,975 | 01:49:55,182 | and they die, and something in you dies, | and they die, and something in you dies, |
2273 | 01:49:55,183 | 01:49:58,141 | and something about all your friends dies, | and something about all your friends dies, |
2274 | 01:49:58,142 | 01:50:00,141 | and something about your life is-- | and something about your life is-- |
2275 | 01:50:00,142 | 01:50:02,391 | you know, you feel gone and concerned about it, | you know, you feel gone and concerned about it, |
2276 | 01:50:02,392 | 01:50:05,558 | and it's the gathering together of a great family. | and it's the gathering together of a great family. |
2277 | 01:50:05,559 | 01:50:08,558 | - How big is that family? - Very big, very big. | - How big is that family? - Very big, very big. |
2278 | 01:50:08,559 | 01:50:10,516 | You know, it's the biggest family. | You know, it's the biggest family. |
2279 | 01:50:10,517 | 01:50:12,807 | It's the whole--you know, it's really the whole world. | It's the whole--you know, it's really the whole world. |
2280 | 01:50:14,850 | 01:50:18,932 | - ♪ I read the news day, oh, boy ♪ | - ♪ I read the news day, oh, boy ♪ |
2281 | 01:50:20,683 | 01:50:25,224 | ♪ About a lucky man who made the grade ♪ | ♪ About a lucky man who made the grade ♪ |
2282 | 01:50:27,267 | 01:50:30,849 | ♪ And though the news was rather sad ♪ | ♪ And though the news was rather sad ♪ |
2283 | 01:50:33,350 | 01:50:37,016 | ♪ Well, I just had to laugh ♪ | ♪ Well, I just had to laugh ♪ |
2284 | 01:50:39,600 | 01:50:43,682 | ♪ I saw the photograph ♪ | ♪ I saw the photograph ♪ |
2285 | 01:50:45,766 | 01:50:48,599 | - To hear John Lennon had been murdered by a fan, | - To hear John Lennon had been murdered by a fan, |
2286 | 01:50:48,600 | 01:50:51,558 | that he had been killed for who and what he was, | that he had been killed for who and what he was, |
2287 | 01:50:51,559 | 01:50:54,891 | was like watching someone you love being hit by a car. | was like watching someone you love being hit by a car. |
2288 | 01:50:56,434 | 01:50:59,807 | I have my own reasons for caring about John Lennon-- | I have my own reasons for caring about John Lennon-- |
2289 | 01:50:59,808 | 01:51:02,099 | a song or a moment in "Help!" -- | a song or a moment in "Help!" -- |
2290 | 01:51:02,100 | 01:51:05,057 | that may never have affected you, | that may never have affected you, |
2291 | 01:51:05,058 | 01:51:08,599 | but you have reasons that are fundamentally the same. | but you have reasons that are fundamentally the same. |
2292 | 01:51:08,600 | 01:51:10,682 | And that's why it was other people's reaction | And that's why it was other people's reaction |
2293 | 01:51:10,683 | 01:51:12,890 | to John Lennon's murder that produced in me | to John Lennon's murder that produced in me |
2294 | 01:51:12,891 | 01:51:15,599 | the most overwhelming despair. | the most overwhelming despair. |
2295 | 01:51:15,600 | 01:51:18,558 | Rock and roll works as common experience | Rock and roll works as common experience |
2296 | 01:51:18,559 | 01:51:20,182 | and private obsession. | and private obsession. |
2297 | 01:51:20,183 | 01:51:22,558 | The two can't really be separated. | The two can't really be separated. |
2298 | 01:51:22,559 | 01:51:25,891 | Indeed, one fuels the other. | Indeed, one fuels the other. |
2299 | 01:51:27,808 | 01:51:31,224 | - I came in, and they were mocking up covers | - I came in, and they were mocking up covers |
2300 | 01:51:31,225 | 01:51:32,807 | just with John. | just with John. |
2301 | 01:51:32,808 | 01:51:34,433 | You know, I had done some close-ups | You know, I had done some close-ups |
2302 | 01:51:34,434 | 01:51:36,391 | of John's face and his head. | of John's face and his head. |
2303 | 01:51:36,392 | 01:51:39,266 | And, um, you know, I went in to see Jann, | And, um, you know, I went in to see Jann, |
2304 | 01:51:39,267 | 01:51:42,599 | and I said, "Jann, you know, I promised John | and I said, "Jann, you know, I promised John |
2305 | 01:51:42,600 | 01:51:46,933 | that the cover would be, um, him and Yoko." | that the cover would be, um, him and Yoko." |
2306 | 01:51:51,434 | 01:51:53,559 | And Jann backed me up. | And Jann backed me up. |
2307 | 01:51:55,683 | 01:52:00,099 | He, you know--I said it was the last promise... | He, you know--I said it was the last promise... |
2308 | 01:52:00,100 | 01:52:02,891 | You know, so... | You know, so... |
2309 | 01:52:16,100 | 01:52:21,141 | - ♪ Grow old along with me ♪ | - ♪ Grow old along with me ♪ |
2310 | 01:52:22,517 | 01:52:27,308 | ♪ Our best is yet to be ♪ | ♪ Our best is yet to be ♪ |
2311 | 01:52:29,808 | 01:52:33,682 | ♪ When our time has come ♪ | ♪ When our time has come ♪ |
2312 | 01:52:35,850 | 01:52:39,558 | ♪ We will be as one ♪ | ♪ We will be as one ♪ |
2313 | 01:52:41,933 | 01:52:45,308 | ♪ God bless our love ♪ | ♪ God bless our love ♪ |
2314 | 01:52:48,100 | 01:52:51,182 | ♪ God bless our love ♪ | ♪ God bless our love ♪ |
2315 | 01:53:01,517 | 01:53:07,640 | ♪ Grow old along with me ♪ | ♪ Grow old along with me ♪ |
2316 | 01:53:07,641 | 01:53:12,849 | ♪ Two branches of one tree ♪ | ♪ Two branches of one tree ♪ |
2317 | 01:53:15,142 | 01:53:20,682 | ♪ Face the setting sun ♪ | ♪ Face the setting sun ♪ |
2318 | 01:53:20,683 | 01:53:24,724 | ♪ When the day is done ♪ | ♪ When the day is done ♪ |
2319 | 01:53:26,850 | 01:53:30,516 | ♪ God bless our love ♪ | ♪ God bless our love ♪ |
2320 | 01:53:32,891 | 01:53:36,890 | ♪ God bless our love ♪ | ♪ God bless our love ♪ |
2321 | 01:53:51,058 | 01:53:55,765 | ♪ Spending our lives together ♪ | ♪ Spending our lives together ♪ |
2322 | 01:53:57,434 | 01:54:01,558 | ♪ Man and wife together ♪ | ♪ Man and wife together ♪ |
2323 | 01:54:01,559 | 01:54:04,516 | ♪ World without end ♪ | ♪ World without end ♪ |
2324 | 01:54:04,517 | 01:54:07,558 | ♪ World without end ♪ | ♪ World without end ♪ |
2325 | 01:54:18,475 | 01:54:24,682 | ♪ Grow old along with me ♪ | ♪ Grow old along with me ♪ |
2326 | 01:54:24,683 | 01:54:29,516 | ♪ Whatever fate decrees ♪ | ♪ Whatever fate decrees ♪ |
2327 | 01:54:32,100 | 01:54:36,266 | ♪ We will see it through ♪ | ♪ We will see it through ♪ |
2328 | 01:54:37,933 | 01:54:43,682 | ♪ For our love is true ♪ | ♪ For our love is true ♪ |
2329 | 01:54:43,683 | 01:54:47,142 | ♪ God bless our love ♪ | ♪ God bless our love ♪ |