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1 00:00:06,067 00:00:07,033 In the criminal justice system, In the criminal justice system,
2 00:00:07,068 00:00:10,068 The people are represented by two separate, The people are represented by two separate,
3 00:00:10,069 00:00:11,369 Yet equally important groups Yet equally important groups
4 00:00:11,370 00:00:13,370 The police who investigate crime The police who investigate crime
5 00:00:13,468 00:00:16,203 And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders.
6 00:00:16,271 00:00:18,072 These are their stories. These are their stories.
7 00:00:19,374 00:00:20,740 - Hi, sweetie. - Hi, sweetie.
8 00:00:20,808 00:00:22,275 You like my tie? You like my tie?
9 00:00:22,343 00:00:23,710 - Yeah, it's red. - Yeah, it's red.
10 00:00:23,778 00:00:26,091 - You can watch me on the internet, bela. - You can watch me on the internet, bela.
11 00:00:26,159 00:00:27,584 Mommy will show you how. Mommy will show you how.
12 00:00:27,651 00:00:29,580 - I know how. Bye. - I know how. Bye.
13 00:00:29,647 00:00:31,011 ciao. ciao.
14 00:00:31,079 00:00:33,610 - Go play baby. - Go play baby.
15 00:00:33,678 00:00:35,313 I want you on the next plane home. I want you on the next plane home.
16 00:00:35,381 00:00:38,089 - I'm not going to argue with you about this, dana. - I'm not going to argue with you about this, dana.
17 00:00:38,157 00:00:40,320 I'll call you later. I'll call you later.
18 00:00:43,220 00:00:44,452 please! please!
19 00:00:44,519 00:00:47,616 The evidence that human conduct causes climate change The evidence that human conduct causes climate change
20 00:00:47,684 00:00:49,450 Is open to debate. Is open to debate.
21 00:00:50,721 00:00:53,790 What's indisputable is the foolishness What's indisputable is the foolishness
22 00:00:53,858 00:00:55,794 Of the solutions to that supposed problem. Of the solutions to that supposed problem.
23 00:00:55,862 00:00:58,195 Cap and trade of carbon emissions Cap and trade of carbon emissions
24 00:00:58,263 00:01:01,000 Injects scientists into the financial sector, Injects scientists into the financial sector,
25 00:01:01,067 00:01:03,003 Where we have no place being. Where we have no place being.
26 00:01:04,205 00:01:05,771 - Excuse me. - Excuse me.
27 00:01:05,839 00:01:08,409 Excuse me. Excuse me.
28 00:01:08,476 00:01:12,313 I do not agree with dr. Silva's views on global warming, I do not agree with dr. Silva's views on global warming,
29 00:01:12,381 00:01:13,481 But that does not mean that But that does not mean that
30 00:01:13,548 00:01:15,815 He is wrong about cap and trade. He is wrong about cap and trade.
31 00:01:15,883 00:01:17,283 It's a racket, It's a racket,
32 00:01:17,351 00:01:20,053 And government policy should look elsewhere. And government policy should look elsewhere.
33 00:01:20,121 00:01:22,089 - Thank you, dr. Brown. - Thank you, dr. Brown.
34 00:01:22,157 00:01:24,123 It's nice to know that we can find common ground, It's nice to know that we can find common ground,
35 00:01:24,191 00:01:26,927 Even- Even-
36 00:01:26,995 00:01:29,963 Even despite our ideological differences. Even despite our ideological differences.
37 00:01:31,799 00:01:35,867 I'm sorry. I have the worst headache. I'm sorry. I have the worst headache.
38 00:01:37,369 00:01:39,936 - Somebody call 911! - Somebody call 911!
39 00:01:43,240 00:01:46,007 - Dr. Silva's been rushed to the hospital unconscious. - Dr. Silva's been rushed to the hospital unconscious.
40 00:01:46,074 00:01:47,909 Extremely elevated blood pressure. Extremely elevated blood pressure.
41 00:01:47,977 00:01:51,079 Looks like a hypertensive crisis triggered a stroke. Looks like a hypertensive crisis triggered a stroke.
42 00:01:51,147 00:01:52,247 - And the blood? - And the blood?
43 00:01:52,315 00:01:54,083 - Probably broke his nose when he fell. - Probably broke his nose when he fell.
44 00:01:54,150 00:01:56,952 - A stroke and a broken nose. - What can I tell you? - A stroke and a broken nose. - What can I tell you?
45 00:01:57,020 00:01:59,422 Apparently, dr. Silva's a controversial guy. Apparently, dr. Silva's a controversial guy.
46 00:01:59,490 00:02:01,624 The brazilian consulate wanted cops in the mix. The brazilian consulate wanted cops in the mix.
47 00:02:01,691 00:02:02,658 - Great. - Great.
48 00:02:02,725 00:02:04,726 - Got the video teed up. - Got the video teed up.
49 00:02:04,793 00:02:09,163 - I'm sorry. I have the worst headache. - I'm sorry. I have the worst headache.
50 00:02:10,498 00:02:15,334 - Hey, run that back again in slo-mo. - Hey, run that back again in slo-mo.
51 00:02:15,402 00:02:16,835 Look at that. Look at that.
52 00:02:16,903 00:02:19,471 He was bleeding before he went down. He was bleeding before he went down.
53 00:02:19,538 00:02:22,072 - Bleeding like that from a stroke? - Bleeding like that from a stroke?
54 00:02:22,140 00:02:23,607 - Not from a stroke. - Not from a stroke.
55 00:02:23,675 00:02:25,408 I've never seen this before. I've never seen this before.
56 00:02:25,476 00:02:27,543 we have. we have.
57 00:02:27,611 00:02:29,978 It's called homicide-itis. It's called homicide-itis.
58 00:03:20,800 00:03:22,100 - Well, his blood work shows he ingested - Well, his blood work shows he ingested
59 00:03:22,200 00:03:23,500 A massive amount of methylphenidate A massive amount of methylphenidate
60 00:03:23,600 00:03:25,700 An hour before he collapsed. An hour before he collapsed.
61 00:03:25,800 00:03:29,200 Uh, right. It's an amphetamine. Uh, right. It's an amphetamine.
62 00:03:29,300 00:03:31,500 The drug caused a sudden jump in his b-p The drug caused a sudden jump in his b-p
63 00:03:31,600 00:03:33,448 And triggered a cerebral hemorrhage. And triggered a cerebral hemorrhage.
64 00:03:33,483 00:03:35,296 - Any chance he was popping uppers? - Any chance he was popping uppers?
65 00:03:35,364 00:03:36,430 - Oh, I doubt it. - Oh, I doubt it.
66 00:03:36,498 00:03:38,299 Methyl-p is usually for kids with a. D.D. Methyl-p is usually for kids with a. D.D.
67 00:03:38,366 00:03:40,067 - Meaning he might have been poisoned. - Meaning he might have been poisoned.
68 00:03:40,134 00:03:43,604 - Yep. E.R. Pumped his stomach. - Yep. E.R. Pumped his stomach.
69 00:03:43,672 00:03:48,009 Looks like somebody spiked his granola. Looks like somebody spiked his granola.
70 00:03:48,077 00:03:50,845 - There was a buffet breakfast before the morning panel. - There was a buffet breakfast before the morning panel.
71 00:03:50,913 00:03:54,182 But I can't believe anybody would hurt dr. Silva. But I can't believe anybody would hurt dr. Silva.
72 00:03:54,250 00:03:56,218 - We're gonna need a list of everyone at the breakfast. - We're gonna need a list of everyone at the breakfast.
73 00:03:56,286 00:03:58,020 Do you know who silva ate with? Do you know who silva ate with?
74 00:03:58,088 00:03:59,522 - Probably himself. - Probably himself.
75 00:03:59,589 00:04:01,457 It's a climate change symposium. It's a climate change symposium.
76 00:04:01,525 00:04:03,059 He's a climate change denier, so... He's a climate change denier, so...
77 00:04:03,127 00:04:04,861 - Yeah, the odd man out. - Yeah, the odd man out.
78 00:04:04,928 00:04:06,395 - I know what you're thinking, - I know what you're thinking,
79 00:04:06,463 00:04:07,796 But these are scientists. But these are scientists.
80 00:04:07,864 00:04:09,198 The worst that happens The worst that happens
81 00:04:09,266 00:04:10,967 Is they flame each other in a journal Is they flame each other in a journal
82 00:04:11,034 00:04:12,368 Or pull some sophomoric prank. Or pull some sophomoric prank.
83 00:04:12,435 00:04:14,971 - Any of that happen to dr. Silva? - Any of that happen to dr. Silva?
84 00:04:15,038 00:04:17,540 - He was worried about his data being hacked. - He was worried about his data being hacked.
85 00:04:17,607 00:04:19,575 He told me he got an alert on his laptop. He told me he got an alert on his laptop.
86 00:04:19,643 00:04:22,177 The hotel's wi-fi wasn't properly firewalled. The hotel's wi-fi wasn't properly firewalled.
87 00:04:22,245 00:04:23,912 He was just being paranoid. He was just being paranoid.
88 00:04:23,980 00:04:25,147 - Hey, check this. - Hey, check this.
89 00:04:25,215 00:04:28,250 Blood pressure meds, pills for ulcers, Blood pressure meds, pills for ulcers,
90 00:04:28,318 00:04:30,419 But no methyl- whatever the m. E. Called it. But no methyl- whatever the m. E. Called it.
91 00:04:30,487 00:04:31,621 - Right, and look. - Right, and look.
92 00:04:31,689 00:04:34,056 Silva has a file here labeled "smoking gun. " Silva has a file here labeled "smoking gun. "
93 00:04:34,124 00:04:36,426 It's an email thread from a dr. Everett brown It's an email thread from a dr. Everett brown
94 00:04:36,493 00:04:39,295 To a dr. Larry cattermole, dated two weeks ago. To a dr. Larry cattermole, dated two weeks ago.
95 00:04:39,362 00:04:42,131 "we have to adjust these data hiccups. "we have to adjust these data hiccups.
96 00:04:42,199 00:04:43,399 "any temperature anomalies "any temperature anomalies
97 00:04:43,466 00:04:44,800 "will encourage the climate deniers. "will encourage the climate deniers.
98 00:04:44,868 00:04:45,834 We can't allow that. " We can't allow that. "
99 00:04:45,902 00:04:47,436 - Sounds like they were fudging data. - Sounds like they were fudging data.
100 00:04:47,504 00:04:49,805 - Silva's not on the distro list for these emails, - Silva's not on the distro list for these emails,
101 00:04:49,873 00:04:51,240 Meaning he's not supposed to have them. Meaning he's not supposed to have them.
102 00:04:51,308 00:04:54,643 - Stolen emails proving that two global warming scientists - Stolen emails proving that two global warming scientists
103 00:04:54,711 00:04:55,878 Were cooking their numbers. Were cooking their numbers.
104 00:04:55,946 00:04:57,046 No wonder silva was worried No wonder silva was worried
105 00:04:57,114 00:04:58,347 About somebody hacking his computer. About somebody hacking his computer.
106 00:04:58,415 00:05:00,516 - All right, so maybe brown or cattermole - All right, so maybe brown or cattermole
107 00:05:00,584 00:05:02,751 Figured out that silva had hacked theirs Figured out that silva had hacked theirs
108 00:05:02,819 00:05:05,555 And decided to shut him up. And decided to shut him up.
109 00:05:05,622 00:05:08,290 - Guess who was on the panel with silva? - Guess who was on the panel with silva?
110 00:05:10,193 00:05:11,761 - These are private emails, - These are private emails,
111 00:05:11,828 00:05:13,596 And possession of them is a felony. And possession of them is a felony.
112 00:05:13,663 00:05:15,364 - Did you tell that to dr. Silva? - Did you tell that to dr. Silva?
113 00:05:15,432 00:05:16,565 - No. I didn't know he had them. - No. I didn't know he had them.
114 00:05:16,633 00:05:18,200 It's the first I've heard of this. It's the first I've heard of this.
115 00:05:18,268 00:05:21,104 I am very concerned with the invasion of privacy. I am very concerned with the invasion of privacy.
116 00:05:21,171 00:05:22,805 - Not to mention it getting out - Not to mention it getting out
117 00:05:22,873 00:05:24,340 That you were monkeying with your data. That you were monkeying with your data.
118 00:05:24,408 00:05:27,177 - A few data points among thousands, - A few data points among thousands,
119 00:05:27,245 00:05:29,112 With zero effect on the bottom line With zero effect on the bottom line
120 00:05:29,180 00:05:31,549 That global warming is real. That global warming is real.
121 00:05:31,616 00:05:34,052 - Then why game your research, dr. Brown? - Then why game your research, dr. Brown?
122 00:05:34,119 00:05:36,621 - Because... - Because...
123 00:05:36,689 00:05:39,558 Global warming deniers will use any excuse Global warming deniers will use any excuse
124 00:05:39,626 00:05:41,760 To create doubt where there is clarity. To create doubt where there is clarity.
125 00:05:41,828 00:05:45,130 The stakes are too high to let them muddy the waters. The stakes are too high to let them muddy the waters.
126 00:05:45,197 00:05:46,865 - You were on the panel with silva. - You were on the panel with silva.
127 00:05:46,932 00:05:48,733 Did you talk to him at the breakfast buffet? Did you talk to him at the breakfast buffet?
128 00:05:48,801 00:05:50,702 - I didn't even see him. - I didn't even see him.
129 00:05:50,770 00:05:53,838 I grabbed a bagel and left. I grabbed a bagel and left.
130 00:05:53,906 00:05:55,840 - We're still verifying brown's alibi. - We're still verifying brown's alibi.
131 00:05:55,908 00:05:57,108 The other scientist, cattermole, The other scientist, cattermole,
132 00:05:57,176 00:05:59,010 He was in portland, teaching a seminar. He was in portland, teaching a seminar.
133 00:05:59,078 00:06:00,612 - Excuse me, uh, loo, check this out. - Excuse me, uh, loo, check this out.
134 00:06:00,680 00:06:02,380 This is the video of silva collapsing? This is the video of silva collapsing?
135 00:06:02,448 00:06:05,149 This is brown, talking, just before it happened. This is brown, talking, just before it happened.
136 00:06:05,217 00:06:07,151 - I do not agree with dr. Silva's views - I do not agree with dr. Silva's views
137 00:06:07,219 00:06:08,353 On global warming. On global warming.
138 00:06:08,420 00:06:10,521 But that does not mean that is he is wrong But that does not mean that is he is wrong
139 00:06:10,589 00:06:11,819 About cap and trade. About cap and trade.
140 00:06:11,887 00:06:13,119 It's a racket, It's a racket,
141 00:06:13,187 00:06:15,788 And government policy should look elsewhere. And government policy should look elsewhere.
142 00:06:15,855 00:06:18,857 - Cap and trade. That's about carbon emissions. - Cap and trade. That's about carbon emissions.
143 00:06:18,924 00:06:20,958 - Right. Limiting the pollution a company can emit. - Right. Limiting the pollution a company can emit.
144 00:06:21,026 00:06:22,226 If you want to pollute more, If you want to pollute more,
145 00:06:22,294 00:06:23,460 You can buy carbon credits You can buy carbon credits
146 00:06:23,528 00:06:24,628 From a company who's polluting less. From a company who's polluting less.
147 00:06:24,695 00:06:27,197 Weird thing, brown is an eco-warrior, Weird thing, brown is an eco-warrior,
148 00:06:27,264 00:06:28,631 And here he is, siding with silva And here he is, siding with silva
149 00:06:28,698 00:06:30,098 To rip cap and trade. To rip cap and trade.
150 00:06:30,166 00:06:33,134 - Yeah, silva had proof that brown was falsifying data. - Yeah, silva had proof that brown was falsifying data.
151 00:06:33,202 00:06:35,770 Now maybe he used this to convince brown to support him. Now maybe he used this to convince brown to support him.
152 00:06:35,838 00:06:38,806 - Carbon trading-people make money out of that, right? - Carbon trading-people make money out of that, right?
153 00:06:38,873 00:06:39,873 - Mm-hmm. - Mm-hmm.
154 00:06:39,941 00:06:41,575 - A prominent global warming advocate - A prominent global warming advocate
155 00:06:41,642 00:06:43,043 Bags on cap and trade, Bags on cap and trade,
156 00:06:43,110 00:06:44,911 The market might have noticed. The market might have noticed.
157 00:06:46,313 00:06:48,848 - Stocks in carbon emissions trading companies - Stocks in carbon emissions trading companies
158 00:06:48,915 00:06:50,349 Tanked right after brown's statement. Tanked right after brown's statement.
159 00:06:50,416 00:06:53,084 - If silva knew what brown was going to say, - If silva knew what brown was going to say,
160 00:06:53,152 00:06:54,919 He might have made money off it. He might have made money off it.
161 00:06:54,986 00:06:59,889 - Find out if dr. Silva liked to play the carbon market, - Find out if dr. Silva liked to play the carbon market,
162 00:06:59,957 00:07:02,491 And then talk to his wife. And then talk to his wife.
163 00:07:02,559 00:07:06,394 She just flew in from brazil. She just flew in from brazil.
164 00:07:06,462 00:07:09,797 - We met at a conference. - We met at a conference.
165 00:07:09,864 00:07:11,198 I moved to rio. I moved to rio.
166 00:07:11,266 00:07:12,533 We have the perfect life. We have the perfect life.
167 00:07:12,600 00:07:15,667 Our daughter nicole, you should see him with her. Our daughter nicole, you should see him with her.
168 00:07:15,734 00:07:16,867 Why anyone would want to poison oscar- Why anyone would want to poison oscar-
169 00:07:16,935 00:07:20,270 - Well, he is a controversial figure, right? - Well, he is a controversial figure, right?
170 00:07:20,338 00:07:21,538 - The "warmists," - The "warmists,"
171 00:07:21,606 00:07:22,806 The global warming fanatics, The global warming fanatics,
172 00:07:22,874 00:07:24,408 Have accused him of every crime. Have accused him of every crime.
173 00:07:24,475 00:07:26,476 But now we see their lies about the glaciers, But now we see their lies about the glaciers,
174 00:07:26,544 00:07:27,677 The manipulation of data. The manipulation of data.
175 00:07:27,745 00:07:28,778 - Mrs. Silva, - Mrs. Silva,
176 00:07:28,846 00:07:30,846 I'm sorry to have to ask you this, I'm sorry to have to ask you this,
177 00:07:30,914 00:07:34,483 But did you know that your husband bought stock options But did you know that your husband bought stock options
178 00:07:34,551 00:07:37,152 In a carbon emissions trading company last week? In a carbon emissions trading company last week?
179 00:07:37,219 00:07:39,621 - Stock options? - Yes. - Stock options? - Yes.
180 00:07:39,688 00:07:42,957 $50,000 worth of short call options. $50,000 worth of short call options.
181 00:07:43,025 00:07:45,159 Now the company's stock dropped Now the company's stock dropped
182 00:07:45,227 00:07:47,528 After dr. Brown came out against cap and trade, After dr. Brown came out against cap and trade,
183 00:07:47,596 00:07:50,231 And now your husband's investment And now your husband's investment
184 00:07:50,299 00:07:52,500 Is worth $200,000. Is worth $200,000.
185 00:07:52,568 00:07:55,335 - We think your husband pressured dr. Brown - We think your husband pressured dr. Brown
186 00:07:55,403 00:07:56,970 Into making those statements Into making those statements
187 00:07:57,038 00:07:58,505 So he could profit from it. So he could profit from it.
188 00:07:58,573 00:08:01,141 It may be a reason why someone poisoned him. It may be a reason why someone poisoned him.
189 00:08:01,208 00:08:03,042 - Oscar's no crook. - Oscar's no crook.
190 00:08:03,110 00:08:04,878 He's a decent and honest man. He's a decent and honest man.
191 00:08:04,946 00:08:07,147 You can't be right. You can't be right.
192 00:08:13,153 00:08:15,120 - He said he'd ruin me - He said he'd ruin me
193 00:08:15,188 00:08:17,656 If I didn't come out publicly against cap and trade. If I didn't come out publicly against cap and trade.
194 00:08:17,723 00:08:20,591 - Did he promise you a cut of his scam? - Did he promise you a cut of his scam?
195 00:08:20,659 00:08:24,262 - No. He said I was lucky if I kept my reputation. - No. He said I was lucky if I kept my reputation.
196 00:08:24,330 00:08:25,830 What choice did I have? What choice did I have?
197 00:08:25,898 00:08:28,733 He threatened to send the emails to the media He threatened to send the emails to the media
198 00:08:28,800 00:08:29,967 If I went to the police. If I went to the police.
199 00:08:30,035 00:08:31,435 I was scared. I was scared.
200 00:08:32,738 00:08:34,138 There's something off about the man. There's something off about the man.
201 00:08:34,206 00:08:36,441 - Beyond the fact that he was blackmailing you? - Beyond the fact that he was blackmailing you?
202 00:08:36,509 00:08:39,511 - We were talking the day before the panel, - We were talking the day before the panel,
203 00:08:39,578 00:08:41,313 And then he takes a call, And then he takes a call,
204 00:08:41,380 00:08:44,682 And he starts arguing with someone in portuguese. And he starts arguing with someone in portuguese.
205 00:08:44,750 00:08:46,351 Something vicious. Something vicious.
206 00:08:46,419 00:08:47,885 And I got to thinking And I got to thinking
207 00:08:47,953 00:08:50,755 That maybe he was raised in a favela. That maybe he was raised in a favela.
208 00:08:50,822 00:08:52,890 You know what those guys are capable of? You know what those guys are capable of?
209 00:08:52,958 00:08:57,127 - No. But you seem to. - No. But you seem to.
210 00:08:57,195 00:08:59,897 Maybe you thought the extortion had just begun. Maybe you thought the extortion had just begun.
211 00:09:02,667 00:09:05,702 I did not poison him. I did not poison him.
212 00:09:05,770 00:09:08,538 I swear. I swear.
213 00:09:08,606 00:09:10,006 - We talked to five people at the breakfast, - We talked to five people at the breakfast,
214 00:09:10,073 00:09:12,342 And all of them verify that brown left And all of them verify that brown left
215 00:09:12,409 00:09:13,643 Before silva arrived. Before silva arrived.
216 00:09:13,710 00:09:15,544 - And with cattermole 3,000 miles away, - And with cattermole 3,000 miles away,
217 00:09:15,612 00:09:16,712 We're back to square one. We're back to square one.
218 00:09:16,780 00:09:18,147 - Hmm. - Hmm.
219 00:09:18,214 00:09:20,349 - That phone call silva got when he was talking to brown, - That phone call silva got when he was talking to brown,
220 00:09:20,416 00:09:22,250 It was from his wife in brazil. It was from his wife in brazil.
221 00:09:22,318 00:09:24,052 - The phone call that scared brown? - The phone call that scared brown?
222 00:09:24,120 00:09:27,189 - Yeah. Silva turned vicious, screaming at his wife. - Yeah. Silva turned vicious, screaming at his wife.
223 00:09:27,257 00:09:30,492 - She told us she and silva had the perfect life. - She told us she and silva had the perfect life.
224 00:09:30,559 00:09:32,227 - Hmm. - Hmm.
225 00:09:32,294 00:09:34,362 - Don't worry about his personal effects. - Don't worry about his personal effects.
226 00:09:34,430 00:09:36,097 I'll send for them. - Whoa, what's going on here? I'll send for them. - Whoa, what's going on here?
227 00:09:36,165 00:09:38,366 - I'm medevacing oscar to sao paulo. - I'm medevacing oscar to sao paulo.
228 00:09:38,433 00:09:40,201 - 12 hours after you got here? - 12 hours after you got here?
229 00:09:40,269 00:09:41,869 What seems to be the hurry? What seems to be the hurry?
230 00:09:41,937 00:09:43,270 - There's nothing they can do for him here - There's nothing they can do for him here
231 00:09:43,338 00:09:45,406 That doctors can't do for him at home in brazil, That doctors can't do for him at home in brazil,
232 00:09:45,474 00:09:46,541 So let's go. So let's go.
233 00:09:46,609 00:09:47,542 - No one's going anywhere. - No one's going anywhere.
234 00:09:47,610 00:09:49,043 Please, take him back to the room. Please, take him back to the room.
235 00:09:49,111 00:09:50,912 - You don't have the right! - Especially you, mrs. Silva. - You don't have the right! - Especially you, mrs. Silva.
236 00:09:50,980 00:09:52,080 We need to ask you some questions. We need to ask you some questions.
237 00:09:52,148 00:09:53,915 - I don't have to answer any questions. - I don't have to answer any questions.
238 00:09:53,983 00:09:56,951 I'm a brazilian citizen with a brazilian passport. I'm a brazilian citizen with a brazilian passport.
239 00:09:57,019 00:10:00,621 - Well, this is an nypd badge. - Well, this is an nypd badge.
240 00:10:00,689 00:10:03,157 Let's go. Let's go.
241 00:10:07,013 00:10:09,047 - As a brazilian citizen, mrs. Silva refuses - As a brazilian citizen, mrs. Silva refuses
242 00:10:09,115 00:10:11,850 To answer any questions until she talks to her consulate. To answer any questions until she talks to her consulate.
243 00:10:11,918 00:10:13,251 - Well, her brazilian passport - Well, her brazilian passport
244 00:10:13,319 00:10:15,419 Lists new jersey as her place of birth, Lists new jersey as her place of birth,
245 00:10:15,487 00:10:18,656 So that makes her a citizen of this country. So that makes her a citizen of this country.
246 00:10:18,723 00:10:21,291 So maybe she'd like to answer our questions So maybe she'd like to answer our questions
247 00:10:21,359 00:10:22,459 As an american. As an american.
248 00:10:22,526 00:10:24,460 - I was in brazil when my husband was poisoned. - I was in brazil when my husband was poisoned.
249 00:10:24,528 00:10:26,029 How could I know anything? How could I know anything?
250 00:10:26,096 00:10:28,798 - We confirmed your husband engineered that stock scam. - We confirmed your husband engineered that stock scam.
251 00:10:28,866 00:10:32,135 Now we just need to know why he needed the money. Now we just need to know why he needed the money.
252 00:10:32,203 00:10:34,671 Was it a gambling debt or was it a mistress? Was it a gambling debt or was it a mistress?
253 00:10:34,739 00:10:36,206 - Is that what you two were fighting about - Is that what you two were fighting about
254 00:10:36,274 00:10:37,374 On the phone a few days ago? On the phone a few days ago?
255 00:10:37,442 00:10:38,776 - How dare you. - How dare you.
256 00:10:38,844 00:10:40,545 - We understand that if your husband was cheating on you, - We understand that if your husband was cheating on you,
257 00:10:40,612 00:10:41,646 You'd be angry. You'd be angry.
258 00:10:41,714 00:10:42,948 - Angry enough to hurt him. - Angry enough to hurt him.
259 00:10:43,015 00:10:44,950 - All right. End of conversation. - All right. End of conversation.
260 00:10:45,018 00:10:46,852 Obviously you don't have enough to arrest her, Obviously you don't have enough to arrest her,
261 00:10:46,920 00:10:49,688 And we'll see how long this b. S. Detention lasts And we'll see how long this b. S. Detention lasts
262 00:10:49,756 00:10:52,891 After the brazilian consul talks to the state department. After the brazilian consul talks to the state department.
263 00:10:52,959 00:10:54,527 - If she was behind the poisoning, - If she was behind the poisoning,
264 00:10:54,594 00:10:56,695 She would have needed an accomplice to pull it off, She would have needed an accomplice to pull it off,
265 00:10:56,763 00:10:58,330 Someone at the conference. Someone at the conference.
266 00:10:58,398 00:11:00,399 - Someone she would have talked to on the phone from brazil. - Someone she would have talked to on the phone from brazil.
267 00:11:00,467 00:11:02,968 We'll need records from the local phone company. We'll need records from the local phone company.
268 00:11:03,036 00:11:04,570 - All right, I'll put in an m-lat request. - All right, I'll put in an m-lat request.
269 00:11:04,637 00:11:06,772 In the meantime, we keep her passport. In the meantime, we keep her passport.
270 00:11:06,840 00:11:07,773 She doesn't leave the country. She doesn't leave the country.
271 00:11:07,841 00:11:08,974 - All right. - All right.
272 00:11:09,042 00:11:10,876 So we're looking for someone at the breakfast So we're looking for someone at the breakfast
273 00:11:10,944 00:11:12,978 Who might have been mrs. Silva's accomplice. Who might have been mrs. Silva's accomplice.
274 00:11:13,046 00:11:14,346 - Yeah, well, we're working our way - Yeah, well, we're working our way
275 00:11:14,413 00:11:15,947 Through the list of attendees. Through the list of attendees.
276 00:11:16,015 00:11:17,382 We found one gentleman We found one gentleman
277 00:11:17,450 00:11:19,084 Who's been pestering the organizers Who's been pestering the organizers
278 00:11:19,152 00:11:20,786 For a full refund for the conference. For a full refund for the conference.
279 00:11:20,853 00:11:23,188 He claims he didn't attend a single event. He claims he didn't attend a single event.
280 00:11:23,256 00:11:24,622 - Yeah, except they have his signature - Yeah, except they have his signature
281 00:11:24,690 00:11:26,390 On the sign-in sheet for the breakfast. On the sign-in sheet for the breakfast.
282 00:11:26,458 00:11:29,593 - It sounds like someone was trying to create an alibi. - It sounds like someone was trying to create an alibi.
283 00:11:29,661 00:11:31,561 - Hmm. - Hmm.
284 00:11:31,629 00:11:34,697 - There was an occluded front over montana - There was an occluded front over montana
285 00:11:34,765 00:11:37,533 Kicking up rare cloud formations all week. Kicking up rare cloud formations all week.
286 00:11:37,601 00:11:39,735 I'm talking stratocumes. I'm talking stratocumes.
287 00:11:39,803 00:11:41,337 That's why I bailed the night before the conference. That's why I bailed the night before the conference.
288 00:11:41,404 00:11:44,106 - They have you signed in at a breakfast two days later, - They have you signed in at a breakfast two days later,
289 00:11:44,174 00:11:46,575 So the skies must have cleared up in a hurry. So the skies must have cleared up in a hurry.
290 00:11:46,643 00:11:48,978 - Impossible. I was in montana. - Impossible. I was in montana.
291 00:11:49,045 00:11:52,048 The morons who organized that conference, The morons who organized that conference,
292 00:11:52,115 00:11:53,917 They claim to have a photo of me They claim to have a photo of me
293 00:11:53,985 00:11:56,320 Shaking hands with some chinese diplomat. Shaking hands with some chinese diplomat.
294 00:11:56,387 00:11:57,788 It's not even me, It's not even me,
295 00:11:57,856 00:11:59,924 And they want to sell me a print for 20 bucks. And they want to sell me a print for 20 bucks.
296 00:11:59,991 00:12:02,994 - Can we see that photo? - Yeah. - Can we see that photo? - Yeah.
297 00:12:06,232 00:12:08,633 - Well, he's wearing your nametag. - Well, he's wearing your nametag.
298 00:12:08,701 00:12:10,535 - Yeah, look at that. The nerve. - Yeah, look at that. The nerve.
299 00:12:10,603 00:12:12,770 - You know him? - Uh, yeah. - You know him? - Uh, yeah.
300 00:12:12,838 00:12:14,305 He was at the hotel bar that night. He was at the hotel bar that night.
301 00:12:14,372 00:12:18,275 Professor shoemaker. From jersey, I think. Professor shoemaker. From jersey, I think.
302 00:12:20,044 00:12:22,312 - Okay, you caught me. I crashed the event. - Okay, you caught me. I crashed the event.
303 00:12:22,379 00:12:24,113 But, you know, before you condemn me, But, you know, before you condemn me,
304 00:12:24,181 00:12:25,949 These-these a la carte conferences These-these a la carte conferences
305 00:12:26,016 00:12:27,783 Are very expensive, Are very expensive,
306 00:12:27,851 00:12:29,385 And my research grant doesn't really cover- And my research grant doesn't really cover-
307 00:12:29,453 00:12:30,553 - Got it. - Got it.
308 00:12:30,620 00:12:32,588 You run into oscar silva at that breakfast? You run into oscar silva at that breakfast?
309 00:12:32,656 00:12:34,023 - Oh, yeah. The guy who got sick? - Oh, yeah. The guy who got sick?
310 00:12:34,091 00:12:35,458 No. Why? No. Why?
311 00:12:35,526 00:12:38,194 - You know him? - By reputation. - You know him? - By reputation.
312 00:12:38,262 00:12:40,063 I know he's a real mouth-breather. I know he's a real mouth-breather.
313 00:12:40,131 00:12:41,899 - Is this iguazu falls in brazil? - Is this iguazu falls in brazil?
314 00:12:41,966 00:12:44,602 - Yeah. It's beautiful, huh? - Yeah. It's beautiful, huh?
315 00:12:44,669 00:12:46,103 You see those swifts? You see those swifts?
316 00:12:46,171 00:12:48,105 They nest behind the falls. They nest behind the falls.
317 00:12:48,173 00:12:49,173 It's awesome. It's awesome.
318 00:12:49,241 00:12:50,207 You go to a place like that, You go to a place like that,
319 00:12:50,275 00:12:51,308 You know what you're fighting for. You know what you're fighting for.
320 00:12:51,376 00:12:54,111 - Yeah. You spend a lot of time in brazil? - Yeah. You spend a lot of time in brazil?
321 00:12:54,179 00:12:56,213 - A few weeks a year, to study the green desert. - A few weeks a year, to study the green desert.
322 00:12:56,281 00:12:57,548 Green desert. Green desert.
323 00:12:57,615 00:12:59,249 Of course, they cut down the rainforest Of course, they cut down the rainforest
324 00:12:59,317 00:13:00,917 And they planted more pine trees- And they planted more pine trees-
325 00:13:00,985 00:13:02,586 - You know who'd be interested in something like this? - You know who'd be interested in something like this?
326 00:13:02,653 00:13:04,387 - Hmm? - Hmm?
327 00:13:04,455 00:13:05,856 - Silva's wife. - Silva's wife.
328 00:13:05,923 00:13:07,890 - Right. Dana. - Right. Dana.
329 00:13:07,958 00:13:10,459 Very good-looking lady. Very good-looking lady.
330 00:13:10,527 00:13:13,329 You ever run into her down there, professor shoemaker, You ever run into her down there, professor shoemaker,
331 00:13:13,397 00:13:15,531 In the green desert? In the green desert?
332 00:13:15,599 00:13:17,032 - Mm, no. - Mm, no.
333 00:13:17,100 00:13:19,601 No, I don't- I don't know them. No, I don't- I don't know them.
334 00:13:19,669 00:13:21,569 Listen, uh, my simulations. Listen, uh, my simulations.
335 00:13:21,637 00:13:23,304 I got a presentation to a grant committee meeting tomorrow, I got a presentation to a grant committee meeting tomorrow,
336 00:13:23,372 00:13:24,605 And if I don't get cracking- And if I don't get cracking-
337 00:13:24,673 00:13:26,507 - You'll be sneaking into a lot more conferences. - You'll be sneaking into a lot more conferences.
338 00:13:26,575 00:13:27,508 - Yeah. - Thanks. - Yeah. - Thanks.
339 00:13:27,576 00:13:29,911 - Yeah. No worries. Thank you. - Yeah. No worries. Thank you.
340 00:13:31,580 00:13:34,916 - Loo, you've got seven calls over the past year - Loo, you've got seven calls over the past year
341 00:13:34,984 00:13:36,684 To the silva's home in brazil To the silva's home in brazil
342 00:13:36,752 00:13:38,654 From the main number at shoemaker's college. From the main number at shoemaker's college.
343 00:13:38,721 00:13:41,724 - Well, the silvas are scientists. - Well, the silvas are scientists.
344 00:13:41,792 00:13:43,959 Anyone at that school could have been calling them. Anyone at that school could have been calling them.
345 00:13:44,027 00:13:46,462 - How many of them have this kind of travel pattern? - How many of them have this kind of travel pattern?
346 00:13:46,530 00:13:48,831 Three trips to brazil last summer, two in March. Three trips to brazil last summer, two in March.
347 00:13:48,899 00:13:49,965 Seven, the year before that. Seven, the year before that.
348 00:13:50,033 00:13:51,533 Some for two weeks, some for two days. Some for two weeks, some for two days.
349 00:13:51,601 00:13:53,502 I mean, it looks like shoemaker and mrs. Silva I mean, it looks like shoemaker and mrs. Silva
350 00:13:53,570 00:13:54,670 Were having an affair. Were having an affair.
351 00:13:54,738 00:13:56,705 - We have something from the record search - We have something from the record search
352 00:13:56,773 00:13:58,174 On shoemaker. On shoemaker.
353 00:13:58,242 00:14:00,676 This guy was racking up some legal fees. This guy was racking up some legal fees.
354 00:14:00,744 00:14:02,912 Look at all these court appearances. Look at all these court appearances.
355 00:14:02,980 00:14:05,115 - Shoemaker v. Shoemaker. - Shoemaker v. Shoemaker.
356 00:14:05,182 00:14:07,083 Sounds like a divorce. Sounds like a divorce.
357 00:14:07,150 00:14:10,086 Open up one of those files. Open up one of those files.
358 00:14:12,088 00:14:15,057 - Son of a bitch. - Son of a bitch.
359 00:14:15,124 00:14:17,793 - Hmm. - Hmm.
360 00:14:17,861 00:14:21,497 - Anita van buren for a. D.A. Rubirosa. - Anita van buren for a. D.A. Rubirosa.
361 00:14:21,564 00:14:22,631 - You're arresting her? - You're arresting her?
362 00:14:22,699 00:14:24,967 - On an outstanding contempt citation. - On an outstanding contempt citation.
363 00:14:25,034 00:14:28,003 She was married for six years to phillip shoemaker. She was married for six years to phillip shoemaker.
364 00:14:28,070 00:14:30,004 Divorced in 2006. Divorced in 2006.
365 00:14:30,072 00:14:31,706 One daughter, nicole. One daughter, nicole.
366 00:14:31,773 00:14:33,608 - And three years ago, she fled the country - And three years ago, she fled the country
367 00:14:33,675 00:14:35,143 With her daughter, in violation With her daughter, in violation
368 00:14:35,210 00:14:36,911 Of a shared custody order Of a shared custody order
369 00:14:36,979 00:14:39,346 To go marry oscar silva in brazil. To go marry oscar silva in brazil.
370 00:14:39,414 00:14:41,148 The judge issued an arrest warrant The judge issued an arrest warrant
371 00:14:41,216 00:14:44,417 And granted full custody to professor shoemaker. And granted full custody to professor shoemaker.
372 00:14:44,485 00:14:45,718 - You and your ex, we take it, - You and your ex, we take it,
373 00:14:45,786 00:14:46,986 Weren't getting along. Weren't getting along.
374 00:14:47,054 00:14:49,522 - It's not amicable. The divorce was ugly. - It's not amicable. The divorce was ugly.
375 00:14:49,590 00:14:51,290 And not being able to see nicole And not being able to see nicole
376 00:14:51,358 00:14:53,125 Has been difficult for phillip. Has been difficult for phillip.
377 00:14:53,193 00:14:56,095 - All those trips to brazil, and he hasn't seen her? - All those trips to brazil, and he hasn't seen her?
378 00:14:56,163 00:14:58,163 - No, I don't think spending time - No, I don't think spending time
379 00:14:58,231 00:14:59,498 With someone that angry With someone that angry
380 00:14:59,565 00:15:01,299 Would be healthy for nicole. Would be healthy for nicole.
381 00:15:01,367 00:15:03,635 But he keeps suing me in brazilian court But he keeps suing me in brazilian court
382 00:15:03,703 00:15:05,937 To get to her, and it's cost us a fortune To get to her, and it's cost us a fortune
383 00:15:06,005 00:15:07,271 To defend ourselves. To defend ourselves.
384 00:15:07,339 00:15:10,140 That's why-that's why oscar needed money. That's why-that's why oscar needed money.
385 00:15:10,208 00:15:11,508 He needed to pay the lawyer He needed to pay the lawyer
386 00:15:11,576 00:15:12,976 So that we wouldn't lose nicole. So that we wouldn't lose nicole.
387 00:15:13,044 00:15:15,745 - How did your ex feel about oscar? - How did your ex feel about oscar?
388 00:15:15,813 00:15:17,747 - About what you'd expect. - About what you'd expect.
389 00:15:17,815 00:15:21,216 But phillip would never hurt oscar. But phillip would never hurt oscar.
390 00:15:21,284 00:15:22,484 We're scientists. We're scientists.
391 00:15:22,552 00:15:24,019 We deal with disagreements We deal with disagreements
392 00:15:24,087 00:15:26,187 With emotional detachment and reason. With emotional detachment and reason.
393 00:15:26,255 00:15:29,391 - That's what the argument was about on the phone? - That's what the argument was about on the phone?
394 00:15:29,458 00:15:30,692 The custody? The custody?
395 00:15:30,760 00:15:32,427 - I wanted oscar to come home. - I wanted oscar to come home.
396 00:15:32,495 00:15:35,030 I was worried that phillip would find out he was there I was worried that phillip would find out he was there
397 00:15:35,097 00:15:36,998 And have him detained. And have him detained.
398 00:15:37,066 00:15:39,635 - Do you have any ties to brazil beyond your husband? - Do you have any ties to brazil beyond your husband?
399 00:15:39,702 00:15:41,570 - No, not really. - No, not really.
400 00:15:41,638 00:15:43,305 - So if something were to happen to him, - So if something were to happen to him,
401 00:15:43,373 00:15:45,307 There'd be nothing keeping you There'd be nothing keeping you
402 00:15:45,375 00:15:46,975 Or your daughter there, right? Or your daughter there, right?
403 00:15:47,043 00:15:49,944 You'd come home, to the u. S. You'd come home, to the u. S.
404 00:15:50,012 00:15:52,247 - Oh, my god. - Oh, my god.
405 00:15:52,314 00:15:54,849 If you know this, why don't you arrest phillip? If you know this, why don't you arrest phillip?
406 00:15:54,916 00:15:56,584 - We don't have enough evidence, - We don't have enough evidence,
407 00:15:56,652 00:15:57,985 Not even for a search warrant. Not even for a search warrant.
408 00:15:58,053 00:16:01,188 - Look, if you know anything that could be useful, - Look, if you know anything that could be useful,
409 00:16:01,255 00:16:02,255 Anything that could help us- Anything that could help us-
410 00:16:02,323 00:16:04,257 - I don't. - Please, just think. - I don't. - Please, just think.
411 00:16:04,325 00:16:05,325 Any detail. Any detail.
412 00:16:05,393 00:16:07,126 - She told you she doesn't know. - She told you she doesn't know.
413 00:16:07,194 00:16:08,394 - Your ex used a poison - Your ex used a poison
414 00:16:08,462 00:16:10,330 That raised your husband's blood pressure. That raised your husband's blood pressure.
415 00:16:10,397 00:16:12,766 Now did he know mr. Silva was vulnerable, Now did he know mr. Silva was vulnerable,
416 00:16:12,834 00:16:15,603 If he had a heart or a circulatory problem? If he had a heart or a circulatory problem?
417 00:16:15,671 00:16:18,239 - Phillip knew oscar had some fainting spells - Phillip knew oscar had some fainting spells
418 00:16:18,307 00:16:20,341 Associated with his high blood pressure. Associated with his high blood pressure.
419 00:16:27,650 00:16:31,052 - Look, I-I made my peace with dana moving on long ago. - Look, I-I made my peace with dana moving on long ago.
420 00:16:31,120 00:16:32,320 I mean, even if I hadn't, I mean, even if I hadn't,
421 00:16:32,388 00:16:33,822 How would killing her husband serve any purpose? How would killing her husband serve any purpose?
422 00:16:33,889 00:16:35,523 It's fundamentally irrational. It's fundamentally irrational.
423 00:16:35,590 00:16:36,991 - Registered mail receipt from a p. O. Box - Registered mail receipt from a p. O. Box
424 00:16:37,058 00:16:38,292 In hogansburg, new york. In hogansburg, new york.
425 00:16:38,359 00:16:40,493 - It's for maple syrup. - It's for maple syrup.
426 00:16:40,561 00:16:42,028 - Sure it is. - Sure it is.
427 00:16:42,096 00:16:44,664 - Hmm. - Hmm.
428 00:16:44,731 00:16:46,232 Suspicious maple syrup? Suspicious maple syrup?
429 00:16:46,299 00:16:48,100 - Hogansburg has an indian reservation - Hogansburg has an indian reservation
430 00:16:48,168 00:16:49,835 That straddles the canadian border. That straddles the canadian border.
431 00:16:49,903 00:16:52,071 In my intel days, we kept tabs on the place In my intel days, we kept tabs on the place
432 00:16:52,139 00:16:53,540 Because it was a staging ground Because it was a staging ground
433 00:16:53,607 00:16:57,477 For smuggling all sorts of nasty stuff into the u. S. For smuggling all sorts of nasty stuff into the u. S.
434 00:17:00,949 00:17:03,217 - Okay, so it's my p. O. Box. - Okay, so it's my p. O. Box.
435 00:17:03,285 00:17:05,753 I sell tons of sports memorabilia on ebay. I sell tons of sports memorabilia on ebay.
436 00:17:05,821 00:17:07,856 It was probably a signed canadiens' jersey. It was probably a signed canadiens' jersey.
437 00:17:07,924 00:17:09,992 - The recipient said it was maple syrup. - The recipient said it was maple syrup.
438 00:17:10,059 00:17:12,394 - Right. Well, I ship that stuff too. - Right. Well, I ship that stuff too.
439 00:17:12,461 00:17:14,395 It's hard to remember. I do a lot of volume. It's hard to remember. I do a lot of volume.
440 00:17:14,463 00:17:17,265 - Ah, the thing is, vernon, you're on parole - Ah, the thing is, vernon, you're on parole
441 00:17:17,333 00:17:19,501 For bringing oxycontin across the border. For bringing oxycontin across the border.
442 00:17:19,569 00:17:21,770 Now are you back in the pharmaceutical business? Now are you back in the pharmaceutical business?
443 00:17:21,838 00:17:24,674 Maybe smuggling methylphenidate? Maybe smuggling methylphenidate?
444 00:17:24,741 00:17:27,443 - Honestly, I don't even know what that is. - Honestly, I don't even know what that is.
445 00:17:27,511 00:17:28,444 - The guy you sent that package to, - The guy you sent that package to,
446 00:17:28,512 00:17:29,745 We're gonna offer him immunity We're gonna offer him immunity
447 00:17:29,813 00:17:31,781 In exchange for testimony about its contents. In exchange for testimony about its contents.
448 00:17:31,849 00:17:35,518 Or we can make you that offer. Or we can make you that offer.
449 00:17:35,585 00:17:37,486 Five seconds and we're out the door. Five seconds and we're out the door.
450 00:17:41,691 00:17:43,158 - Okay, okay, okay. Look, look, look. - Okay, okay, okay. Look, look, look.
451 00:17:43,226 00:17:46,361 I get a call from some dude who wouldn't give me his name. I get a call from some dude who wouldn't give me his name.
452 00:17:46,429 00:17:47,396 He says he'll pay big. He says he'll pay big.
453 00:17:47,464 00:17:49,298 He sends a money order and instructions He sends a money order and instructions
454 00:17:49,365 00:17:50,365 On where to send the pills. On where to send the pills.
455 00:17:50,433 00:17:51,766 - What kind of pills? - What kind of pills?
456 00:17:51,834 00:17:55,636 - Methyl-p, man. Methyl-p. - Methyl-p, man. Methyl-p.
457 00:17:55,704 00:17:57,871 - Come on, please, please, please. - Come on, please, please, please.
458 00:17:57,939 00:17:59,172 This is all just a huge misunderstanding. This is all just a huge misunderstanding.
459 00:17:59,240 00:18:00,941 - Yeah, you'll have plenty of time to clear it up. - Yeah, you'll have plenty of time to clear it up.
460 00:18:01,008 00:18:03,175 - I hope you die in jail! - Hey, hey! - I hope you die in jail! - Hey, hey!
461 00:18:03,243 00:18:05,177 I want my daughter back! I want my daughter back!
462 00:18:05,245 00:18:06,445 - She doesn't even remember your name! - She doesn't even remember your name!
463 00:18:06,513 00:18:08,414 I told her you were dead! - You evil bitch! I told her you were dead! - You evil bitch!
464 00:18:08,481 00:18:10,216 - You murdering bastard! - You murdering bastard!
465 00:18:11,985 00:18:13,452 They're gonna love you, honey! They're gonna love you, honey!
466 00:18:13,520 00:18:15,588 They're gonna love you in jail! They're gonna love you in jail!
467 00:18:15,656 00:18:17,156 - Sit down! - Sit down!
468 00:18:17,224 00:18:18,357 - Must be some of that - Must be some of that
469 00:18:18,425 00:18:21,694 Emotional detachment and reason. Emotional detachment and reason.
470 00:18:28,377 00:18:30,444 - Case number 187299, - Case number 187299,
471 00:18:30,512 00:18:31,946 People v. Phillip shoemaker. People v. Phillip shoemaker.
472 00:18:32,013 00:18:33,347 Attempted murder. Attempted murder.
473 00:18:32,415 00:18:33,715 - Not guilty, your honor. - Not guilty, your honor.
474 00:18:33,783 00:18:36,050 - People request bail of $1 million. - People request bail of $1 million.
475 00:18:36,118 00:18:38,652 - Professor shoemaker has ties to the community - Professor shoemaker has ties to the community
476 00:18:38,720 00:18:40,020 And no criminal record. And no criminal record.
477 00:18:40,088 00:18:42,956 We request r. O.R. So he can assert We request r. O.R. So he can assert
478 00:18:43,024 00:18:44,725 The sole custody rights granted to him The sole custody rights granted to him
479 00:18:44,792 00:18:46,260 When his ex-wife fled the country When his ex-wife fled the country
480 00:18:46,327 00:18:47,428 With their daughter. With their daughter.
481 00:18:47,495 00:18:49,797 - Judge, the custody issues are collateral - Judge, the custody issues are collateral
482 00:18:49,865 00:18:50,831 To a bail determination. To a bail determination.
483 00:18:50,899 00:18:52,666 - Not if my decisions impact them. - Not if my decisions impact them.
484 00:18:52,734 00:18:53,934 Where is the child now? Where is the child now?
485 00:18:54,002 00:18:56,370 - In brazil, with the parents of her stepfather. - In brazil, with the parents of her stepfather.
486 00:18:56,438 00:18:58,505 - Of the man mr. Shoemaker tried to kill. - Of the man mr. Shoemaker tried to kill.
487 00:18:58,573 00:19:00,774 - The child's mother is in custody - The child's mother is in custody
488 00:19:00,842 00:19:03,977 Pursuant to an arrest warrant issued by the family court. Pursuant to an arrest warrant issued by the family court.
489 00:19:04,045 00:19:06,313 If my client can't make bail, If my client can't make bail,
490 00:19:06,381 00:19:08,382 The child will remain in brazil, The child will remain in brazil,
491 00:19:08,449 00:19:09,883 Far from her lawful parent. Far from her lawful parent.
492 00:19:09,951 00:19:11,785 - And if you release mr. Shoemaker, - And if you release mr. Shoemaker,
493 00:19:11,853 00:19:13,787 He'll get his daughter back, giving him exactly He'll get his daughter back, giving him exactly
494 00:19:13,855 00:19:15,655 What his attempt on mr. Silva's life What his attempt on mr. Silva's life
495 00:19:15,723 00:19:17,824 Was meant to accomplish: Custody. Was meant to accomplish: Custody.
496 00:19:17,892 00:19:20,560 - So I get to make everybody unhappy. - So I get to make everybody unhappy.
497 00:19:20,628 00:19:21,694 Fine. Fine.
498 00:19:21,762 00:19:23,696 Bail is $500,000. Bail is $500,000.
499 00:19:26,733 00:19:29,101 - Ms. Rubirosa, I'm kate orris. - Ms. Rubirosa, I'm kate orris.
500 00:19:29,169 00:19:30,303 I've been retained by mrs. Silva I've been retained by mrs. Silva
501 00:19:30,370 00:19:31,671 In the custody matter. In the custody matter.
502 00:19:31,738 00:19:34,607 We're moving to have her custodial rights reinstated. We're moving to have her custodial rights reinstated.
503 00:19:38,646 00:19:40,947 - Dana's moving to keep her kid in brazil. - Dana's moving to keep her kid in brazil.
504 00:19:41,015 00:19:42,849 She's using shoemaker's indictment She's using shoemaker's indictment
505 00:19:42,917 00:19:44,284 To prove he's an unfit parent. To prove he's an unfit parent.
506 00:19:44,352 00:19:45,618 - The last thing we need - The last thing we need
507 00:19:45,686 00:19:47,754 Is to get dragged into a custody dispute. Is to get dragged into a custody dispute.
508 00:19:47,821 00:19:48,888 - Too late. - Too late.
509 00:19:48,956 00:19:50,156 Shoemaker just subpoenaed me Shoemaker just subpoenaed me
510 00:19:50,223 00:19:51,423 In the custody case. In the custody case.
511 00:19:51,491 00:19:54,059 He wants a full airing of the charges against him He wants a full airing of the charges against him
512 00:19:54,127 00:19:55,160 To prove they're bogus. To prove they're bogus.
513 00:19:55,228 00:19:56,695 - We'll get the subpoena quashed. - We'll get the subpoena quashed.
514 00:19:56,763 00:19:57,862 - You'd better. - You'd better.
515 00:19:57,930 00:19:59,697 A prosecutor on the stand A prosecutor on the stand
516 00:19:59,765 00:20:01,632 Giving a defendant a free preview Giving a defendant a free preview
517 00:20:01,700 00:20:03,701 Of his pending criminal case? Of his pending criminal case?
518 00:20:03,768 00:20:06,703 You may as well dismiss the charges now. You may as well dismiss the charges now.
519 00:20:10,508 00:20:13,310 - This subpoena is mr. Shoemaker's naked attempt - This subpoena is mr. Shoemaker's naked attempt
520 00:20:13,378 00:20:15,413 To undermine his criminal trial. To undermine his criminal trial.
521 00:20:15,480 00:20:16,680 The details of his case The details of his case
522 00:20:16,748 00:20:19,149 Are not relevant to this custody dispute. Are not relevant to this custody dispute.
523 00:20:19,217 00:20:20,884 - Mrs. Silva made them relevant - Mrs. Silva made them relevant
524 00:20:20,952 00:20:23,086 By arguing the indictment demonstrates By arguing the indictment demonstrates
525 00:20:23,154 00:20:24,955 My client's lack of fitness as a parent. My client's lack of fitness as a parent.
526 00:20:25,022 00:20:26,456 - It's sufficient for this court - It's sufficient for this court
527 00:20:26,524 00:20:28,425 To take judicial notice of the charges. To take judicial notice of the charges.
528 00:20:28,493 00:20:31,995 Anything more imperils the state's compelling interest Anything more imperils the state's compelling interest
529 00:20:32,063 00:20:34,064 In prosecuting an attempted murder. In prosecuting an attempted murder.
530 00:20:34,132 00:20:36,000 - The only concern of this court - The only concern of this court
531 00:20:36,067 00:20:37,869 Is the best interests of the child. Is the best interests of the child.
532 00:20:37,936 00:20:40,104 Those might be served by a full inquiry Those might be served by a full inquiry
533 00:20:40,172 00:20:42,874 Into whether the charges against mr. Shoemaker are baseless. Into whether the charges against mr. Shoemaker are baseless.
534 00:20:42,942 00:20:44,276 Motion denied. Motion denied.
535 00:20:44,343 00:20:47,379 Take the stand, mr. Cutter. Take the stand, mr. Cutter.
536 00:20:49,415 00:20:52,750 - We indicted mr. Shoemaker because we had evidence - We indicted mr. Shoemaker because we had evidence
537 00:20:52,818 00:20:54,986 That he illegally purchased the drug That he illegally purchased the drug
538 00:20:55,054 00:20:56,988 That was used to poison mr. Silva That was used to poison mr. Silva
539 00:20:57,056 00:20:58,756 And he assumed a false identity And he assumed a false identity
540 00:20:58,824 00:21:02,126 To attend the breakfast where mr. Silva was poisoned. To attend the breakfast where mr. Silva was poisoned.
541 00:21:02,194 00:21:03,361 - I see. - I see.
542 00:21:03,429 00:21:07,064 Mr. Cutter, are you the product of a broken home? Mr. Cutter, are you the product of a broken home?
543 00:21:07,132 00:21:09,400 - Objection. Beyond the scope of the subpoena. - Objection. Beyond the scope of the subpoena.
544 00:21:09,468 00:21:10,668 - Goes to bias. - Goes to bias.
545 00:21:10,736 00:21:12,871 I'm entitled to show mr. Cutter's upbringing I'm entitled to show mr. Cutter's upbringing
546 00:21:12,938 00:21:15,340 Tainted his investigation of professor shoemaker. Tainted his investigation of professor shoemaker.
547 00:21:15,407 00:21:18,142 - I'll allow it. Mr. Cutter? - I'll allow it. Mr. Cutter?
548 00:21:20,379 00:21:23,047 - My parents divorced when I was ten. - My parents divorced when I was ten.
549 00:21:23,115 00:21:24,849 - A divorce initiated by your father, right? - A divorce initiated by your father, right?
550 00:21:24,917 00:21:26,551 - That's right. He left my mother. - That's right. He left my mother.
551 00:21:26,618 00:21:29,520 - Your parents were granted shared custody of you, correct? - Your parents were granted shared custody of you, correct?
552 00:21:29,588 00:21:30,721 - Yes. - Yes.
553 00:21:30,789 00:21:32,423 - But things didn't quite work out that way. - But things didn't quite work out that way.
554 00:21:32,491 00:21:33,891 Your dad kept moving. Your dad kept moving.
555 00:21:33,959 00:21:36,060 Different states, different countries. Different states, different countries.
556 00:21:36,128 00:21:37,628 - He was a turnaround specialist. - He was a turnaround specialist.
557 00:21:37,696 00:21:39,730 He worked for different companies, and he- He worked for different companies, and he-
558 00:21:39,798 00:21:43,000 - You didn't get to see a lot of him? - You didn't get to see a lot of him?
559 00:21:43,067 00:21:44,401 - No. - No.
560 00:21:44,469 00:21:47,104 - Fair to say, you grew to resent your father, - Fair to say, you grew to resent your father,
561 00:21:47,172 00:21:50,174 Hate him? Hate him?
562 00:21:50,241 00:21:51,976 - I was ten years old. - I was ten years old.
563 00:21:52,043 00:21:54,177 - Petitioner's 2-b. - Petitioner's 2-b.
564 00:21:54,245 00:21:57,514 A declaration from mrs. Silva's former attorney, A declaration from mrs. Silva's former attorney,
565 00:21:57,582 00:21:58,882 Eli driscoll. Eli driscoll.
566 00:21:58,950 00:22:01,451 Mr. Cutter strong-armed mrs. Silva Mr. Cutter strong-armed mrs. Silva
567 00:22:01,519 00:22:03,587 Into filling out an affidavit he needed Into filling out an affidavit he needed
568 00:22:03,654 00:22:04,921 To search my client's apartment. To search my client's apartment.
569 00:22:04,989 00:22:07,323 - That is a slanderous accusation. - That is a slanderous accusation.
570 00:22:07,391 00:22:10,559 - Didn't you pressure her to provide probable cause - Didn't you pressure her to provide probable cause
571 00:22:10,627 00:22:12,928 For a warrant to search my client's home? For a warrant to search my client's home?
572 00:22:12,996 00:22:14,096 - That's my job. - That's my job.
573 00:22:14,163 00:22:15,530 - And when she couldn't think of anything, - And when she couldn't think of anything,
574 00:22:15,598 00:22:17,532 You kept insisting, even suggesting evidence. You kept insisting, even suggesting evidence.
575 00:22:17,600 00:22:20,802 - The warrant and the charges were based solely on the facts. - The warrant and the charges were based solely on the facts.
576 00:22:20,869 00:22:22,370 - Are you telling this court - Are you telling this court
577 00:22:22,437 00:22:24,405 That your animus toward your own father That your animus toward your own father
578 00:22:24,473 00:22:27,542 Didn't undermine your prosecutorial judgment one iota? Didn't undermine your prosecutorial judgment one iota?
579 00:22:27,610 00:22:29,110 - Your honor, please. - Your honor, please.
580 00:22:29,177 00:22:32,314 - Yes. Ms. Marks, you're done. The witness may step down. - Yes. Ms. Marks, you're done. The witness may step down.
581 00:22:32,381 00:22:34,316 - Thank you. - Thank you.
582 00:22:38,221 00:22:41,924 - Well, I've heard enough to render my decision. - Well, I've heard enough to render my decision.
583 00:22:41,992 00:22:45,061 What's clear is that neither party deserves custody What's clear is that neither party deserves custody
584 00:22:45,129 00:22:47,597 At this juncture, which puts me in a quandary. At this juncture, which puts me in a quandary.
585 00:22:47,665 00:22:49,699 Fortunately, there's a third option. Fortunately, there's a third option.
586 00:22:49,767 00:22:54,135 Mrs. Silva's parents have filed a motion to intervene. Mrs. Silva's parents have filed a motion to intervene.
587 00:22:54,203 00:22:56,838 I'm granting temporary custody of nicole I'm granting temporary custody of nicole
588 00:22:56,906 00:22:58,339 To sharon and nelson lehman To sharon and nelson lehman
589 00:22:58,407 00:23:01,609 Pending permanent resolution of the custody order Pending permanent resolution of the custody order
590 00:23:01,676 00:23:03,710 And of the charges against mr. Shoemaker. And of the charges against mr. Shoemaker.
591 00:23:03,778 00:23:05,779 Mrs. Silva will make arrangements Mrs. Silva will make arrangements
592 00:23:05,847 00:23:08,148 For the immediate return of the girl to this country. For the immediate return of the girl to this country.
593 00:23:08,216 00:23:09,917 We're adjourned. We're adjourned.
594 00:23:14,055 00:23:15,890 - I trust this won't come as a surprise - I trust this won't come as a surprise
595 00:23:15,958 00:23:18,727 To either of you. To either of you.
596 00:23:20,730 00:23:22,731 - Shoemaker's trying to throw out our search - Shoemaker's trying to throw out our search
597 00:23:22,799 00:23:25,768 On the grounds of your bias. On the grounds of your bias.
598 00:23:27,137 00:23:28,604 - So my search gets tossed - So my search gets tossed
599 00:23:28,672 00:23:31,006 Because I had a no-account dad 25 years ago? Because I had a no-account dad 25 years ago?
600 00:23:31,074 00:23:34,009 - Marks did her homework on you. - Marks did her homework on you.
601 00:23:34,077 00:23:36,077 - Homework? All he needed was google. - Homework? All he needed was google.
602 00:23:37,747 00:23:41,783 If the search is out, we lose the p. O. Box upstate If the search is out, we lose the p. O. Box upstate
603 00:23:41,851 00:23:44,018 And all proof that shoemaker received amphetamines. And all proof that shoemaker received amphetamines.
604 00:23:44,086 00:23:46,087 I can't convict him without the drug link. I can't convict him without the drug link.
605 00:23:46,155 00:23:47,822 - If your case can't survive the loss - If your case can't survive the loss
606 00:23:47,890 00:23:49,190 Of even one piece of evidence, Of even one piece of evidence,
607 00:23:49,258 00:23:51,159 Maybe you shouldn't have brought it in the first place. Maybe you shouldn't have brought it in the first place.
608 00:23:52,328 00:23:53,996 - Silva's final lab work just came in. - Silva's final lab work just came in.
609 00:23:54,063 00:23:55,197 Even with his hypertension, Even with his hypertension,
610 00:23:55,265 00:23:57,066 The amount of methyl-p he was poisoned with The amount of methyl-p he was poisoned with
611 00:23:57,133 00:23:58,934 Wasn't enough to give him a stroke. Wasn't enough to give him a stroke.
612 00:23:59,002 00:24:00,503 - Then why did he have a stroke? - Then why did he have a stroke?
613 00:24:00,571 00:24:02,839 - Turns out he had a pre-existing aneurysm. - Turns out he had a pre-existing aneurysm.
614 00:24:02,906 00:24:04,541 The methyl-p just blew it out. The methyl-p just blew it out.
615 00:24:04,608 00:24:06,543 - Shoemaker must've known about silva's aneurysm. - Shoemaker must've known about silva's aneurysm.
616 00:24:06,611 00:24:07,944 - Well, dana said all he knew - Well, dana said all he knew
617 00:24:08,012 00:24:10,046 Was that silva had fainting spells. Was that silva had fainting spells.
618 00:24:10,113 00:24:12,114 - If you can establish that shoemaker knew - If you can establish that shoemaker knew
619 00:24:12,182 00:24:14,683 About silva's aneurysm, that would be probable cause About silva's aneurysm, that would be probable cause
620 00:24:14,751 00:24:15,950 For a search of his apartment. For a search of his apartment.
621 00:24:16,018 00:24:17,952 - Inevitable discovery. - Inevitable discovery.
622 00:24:18,020 00:24:19,854 And the evidence of the drug shipment stays in. And the evidence of the drug shipment stays in.
623 00:24:19,922 00:24:22,323 - And your bias stays out. - And your bias stays out.
624 00:24:26,695 00:24:29,431 - I'm positive I never told phillip - I'm positive I never told phillip
625 00:24:29,499 00:24:31,366 About oscar's aneurysm. About oscar's aneurysm.
626 00:24:31,434 00:24:33,802 It wasn't even diagnosed until last summer. It wasn't even diagnosed until last summer.
627 00:24:33,870 00:24:36,872 - Hold on. - Hold on.
628 00:24:40,310 00:24:42,444 - Now you remember something? - Now you remember something?
629 00:24:42,512 00:24:44,245 - That depends. - That depends.
630 00:24:44,313 00:24:47,014 My client sits in jail. My client sits in jail.
631 00:24:47,082 00:24:49,383 Meanwhile, her husband has awakened from his coma, Meanwhile, her husband has awakened from his coma,
632 00:24:49,451 00:24:51,152 Her daughter is flying in from brazil. Her daughter is flying in from brazil.
633 00:24:51,219 00:24:53,320 You want her help with your case, You want her help with your case,
634 00:24:53,388 00:24:54,722 You help with her release. You help with her release.
635 00:24:54,789 00:24:56,256 - Talk to the judge. - Talk to the judge.
636 00:24:56,324 00:24:58,692 It wasn't our custody order she violated. It wasn't our custody order she violated.
637 00:24:58,760 00:25:01,294 - No, but another voice in favor of her release - No, but another voice in favor of her release
638 00:25:01,362 00:25:02,495 Might tip the scales. Might tip the scales.
639 00:25:02,563 00:25:05,398 - Suppose we do that. What do we get? - Suppose we do that. What do we get?
640 00:25:05,465 00:25:07,700 - Last summer, mr. Shoemaker sued for custody - Last summer, mr. Shoemaker sued for custody
641 00:25:07,768 00:25:09,002 In brazilian court. In brazilian court.
642 00:25:09,070 00:25:11,404 He argued that dana and oscar were unfit parents. He argued that dana and oscar were unfit parents.
643 00:25:11,471 00:25:13,606 His lawyers requested and were given His lawyers requested and were given
644 00:25:13,674 00:25:16,443 Oscar's medical records. Oscar's medical records.
645 00:25:16,510 00:25:18,912 - You have proof they were turned over? - You have proof they were turned over?
646 00:25:18,980 00:25:20,547 - My brazilian co-counsel does. - My brazilian co-counsel does.
647 00:25:20,615 00:25:22,516 I might convince him to dig it up I might convince him to dig it up
648 00:25:22,584 00:25:25,052 After my client gets out of jail. After my client gets out of jail.
649 00:25:28,524 00:25:30,458 - I'm not going to reward a woman - I'm not going to reward a woman
650 00:25:30,525 00:25:32,593 Who flouted a court order for three years Who flouted a court order for three years
651 00:25:32,661 00:25:34,094 Because your case needs a hand. Because your case needs a hand.
652 00:25:34,162 00:25:38,130 - With or without your help, I'm going to nail shoemaker. - With or without your help, I'm going to nail shoemaker.
653 00:25:38,198 00:25:41,066 And at the end of the day, And at the end of the day,
654 00:25:41,134 00:25:43,669 You'll be sending little nicole back to brazil You'll be sending little nicole back to brazil
655 00:25:43,736 00:25:45,203 With her mother and stepfather. With her mother and stepfather.
656 00:25:45,271 00:25:46,938 - So why fight it, right? - So why fight it, right?
657 00:25:47,005 00:25:48,739 If this custody matter proves anything, If this custody matter proves anything,
658 00:25:48,807 00:25:50,041 It's that nothing's inevitable. It's that nothing's inevitable.
659 00:25:50,108 00:25:52,443 - Well, whatever you think of my case, - Well, whatever you think of my case,
660 00:25:52,511 00:25:55,513 Nicole deserves to get back at least one of her parents. Nicole deserves to get back at least one of her parents.
661 00:25:55,580 00:25:57,815 - She's fine with her grandparents for now. - She's fine with her grandparents for now.
662 00:25:57,882 00:26:00,651 Children are resilient. Children are resilient.
663 00:26:00,718 00:26:04,355 - Yeah. Yeah, they- yeah, they muddle through. - Yeah. Yeah, they- yeah, they muddle through.
664 00:26:04,422 00:26:08,493 Without one parent. Or even both. Without one parent. Or even both.
665 00:26:10,129 00:26:13,431 But some wounds... But some wounds...
666 00:26:13,499 00:26:15,534 Don't heal. Don't heal.
667 00:26:20,908 00:26:23,443 - Enjoy your lunch, judge. - Enjoy your lunch, judge.
668 00:26:27,714 00:26:30,949 - A permanent custody determination will be deferred - A permanent custody determination will be deferred
669 00:26:31,017 00:26:34,385 Pending conclusion of mr. Shoemaker's criminal trial. Pending conclusion of mr. Shoemaker's criminal trial.
670 00:26:34,453 00:26:37,755 On another matter, mrs. Silva, On another matter, mrs. Silva,
671 00:26:37,823 00:26:40,290 I have decided for humanitarian reasons I have decided for humanitarian reasons
672 00:26:40,358 00:26:43,560 To conditionally release you to the custody of your parents. To conditionally release you to the custody of your parents.
673 00:26:43,628 00:26:45,561 You'll be fitted with an ankle monitor You'll be fitted with an ankle monitor
674 00:26:45,629 00:26:47,797 And subject to home confinement. And subject to home confinement.
675 00:26:47,865 00:26:49,299 Allowance will be made so you can visit your husband Allowance will be made so you can visit your husband
676 00:26:49,367 00:26:51,034 In the hospital as he recovers. In the hospital as he recovers.
677 00:26:51,102 00:26:52,836 - Judge, for three years, - Judge, for three years,
678 00:26:52,904 00:26:55,239 Mrs. Silva has thumbed her nose at this court. Mrs. Silva has thumbed her nose at this court.
679 00:26:55,307 00:26:56,707 Now she gets to live with her daughter? Now she gets to live with her daughter?
680 00:26:56,775 00:26:58,843 At a minimum, custody should be shared. At a minimum, custody should be shared.
681 00:26:58,911 00:27:00,245 - I disagree. - I disagree.
682 00:27:00,313 00:27:01,847 If mr. Shoemaker is acquitted, If mr. Shoemaker is acquitted,
683 00:27:01,915 00:27:03,482 You can move to have my order modified. You can move to have my order modified.
684 00:27:03,550 00:27:05,017 We're adjourned. We're adjourned.
685 00:27:06,153 00:27:07,487 - Mommy! - Mommy!
686 00:27:07,554 00:27:10,723 - Nicole. Hey, nicole, it's me. It's daddy, baby. - Nicole. Hey, nicole, it's me. It's daddy, baby.
687 00:27:10,790 00:27:13,326 Nicole, you remember me. It's daddy. Nicole, you remember me. It's daddy.
688 00:27:13,394 00:27:14,661 - All right, come on. - All right, come on.
689 00:27:14,728 00:27:16,862 Let's go. Let's go.
690 00:27:37,352 00:27:40,988 - As promised. - As promised.
691 00:27:41,056 00:27:43,157 - Do you feel good about this? - Do you feel good about this?
692 00:27:43,225 00:27:47,862 - I haven't felt good since this case landed on my desk. - I haven't felt good since this case landed on my desk.
693 00:27:47,930 00:27:50,331 - We have proof he had access to silva's medical records, - We have proof he had access to silva's medical records,
694 00:27:50,399 00:27:53,001 Meaning your client knew he had an aneurysm. Meaning your client knew he had an aneurysm.
695 00:27:53,068 00:27:54,802 Meaning the fruits of our search stay in. Meaning the fruits of our search stay in.
696 00:27:54,870 00:27:57,072 - That's not a given. - That's not a given.
697 00:27:57,139 00:27:58,807 - Well, how many years of your client's life - Well, how many years of your client's life
698 00:27:58,874 00:28:00,575 Are you willing to bet on it? Are you willing to bet on it?
699 00:28:00,643 00:28:03,711 Our offer is a plea to assault, five to ten years. Our offer is a plea to assault, five to ten years.
700 00:28:03,779 00:28:05,079 - God! - God!
701 00:28:05,147 00:28:08,082 My ex-wife kept me from my daughter for three years. My ex-wife kept me from my daughter for three years.
702 00:28:08,150 00:28:09,617 If you think I'm gonna let you put me in jail If you think I'm gonna let you put me in jail
703 00:28:09,685 00:28:11,086 Away from nicole for one more day, Away from nicole for one more day,
704 00:28:11,153 00:28:13,655 You're out of your mind. Out of your mind. You're out of your mind. Out of your mind.
705 00:28:16,826 00:28:19,394 mike cutter. mike cutter.
706 00:28:19,462 00:28:20,795 What? What?
707 00:28:20,863 00:28:23,364 Thanks. Thanks.
708 00:28:23,432 00:28:25,700 - To repeat, we have an eight-year-old girl, - To repeat, we have an eight-year-old girl,
709 00:28:25,768 00:28:26,967 Nicole shoemaker, Nicole shoemaker,
710 00:28:27,035 00:28:28,636 Missing from her grandparents' house Missing from her grandparents' house
711 00:28:28,703 00:28:29,670 Here in locust point. Here in locust point.
712 00:28:29,738 00:28:32,406 Missing too is an inflatable boat Missing too is an inflatable boat
713 00:28:32,474 00:28:34,241 That was tied to the dock at the back of the house. That was tied to the dock at the back of the house.
714 00:28:34,309 00:28:35,943 The girl's mother and grandparents The girl's mother and grandparents
715 00:28:36,010 00:28:37,477 Are extremely concerned Are extremely concerned
716 00:28:37,545 00:28:39,313 That the strong currents in the long island sound That the strong currents in the long island sound
717 00:28:39,381 00:28:41,449 Have carried the small boat out to sea Have carried the small boat out to sea
718 00:28:41,516 00:28:42,917 With little nicole in it. With little nicole in it.
719 00:28:42,985 00:28:44,519 Now the coast guard has begun Now the coast guard has begun
720 00:28:44,586 00:28:46,154 A massive search of the waters. A massive search of the waters.
721 00:28:46,221 00:28:47,322 However, they have yet to find However, they have yet to find
722 00:28:47,390 00:28:49,457 Any sign of nicole or the raft. Any sign of nicole or the raft.
723 00:28:49,525 00:28:53,795 - Now we pray. - Now we pray.
724 00:29:00,976 00:29:03,444 - Sharon and I were coming back from the grocery store. - Sharon and I were coming back from the grocery store.
725 00:29:03,512 00:29:05,746 We had promised nicole we were gonna make s'mores. We had promised nicole we were gonna make s'mores.
726 00:29:05,814 00:29:07,981 - Tv was still on, but she's gone. - Tv was still on, but she's gone.
727 00:29:08,049 00:29:11,251 Dana was doing yoga. Her door was closed. Dana was doing yoga. Her door was closed.
728 00:29:11,319 00:29:13,520 - So we looked upstairs, downstairs, and then, - So we looked upstairs, downstairs, and then,
729 00:29:13,588 00:29:15,022 I see the back door's open, I see the back door's open,
730 00:29:15,090 00:29:16,490 So I rush down to the boathouse So I rush down to the boathouse
731 00:29:16,558 00:29:19,093 And I find her doll on the dock. And I find her doll on the dock.
732 00:29:19,160 00:29:20,527 The boat was gone. The boat was gone.
733 00:29:20,595 00:29:22,429 - Keep the faith, okay? - Keep the faith, okay?
734 00:29:22,497 00:29:24,064 Everyone's doing all they can. Everyone's doing all they can.
735 00:29:24,132 00:29:25,599 - They found her! - They found her!
736 00:29:25,667 00:29:27,634 - A dramatic scene is unfolding - A dramatic scene is unfolding
737 00:29:27,702 00:29:29,469 Five miles out in long island sound, Five miles out in long island sound,
738 00:29:29,537 00:29:33,473 Where the coast guard has found a small yellow zodiac boat. Where the coast guard has found a small yellow zodiac boat.
739 00:29:33,541 00:29:35,075 Now we understand that the rescue divers Now we understand that the rescue divers
740 00:29:35,143 00:29:37,144 Are already in the water. Are already in the water.
741 00:29:37,211 00:29:39,046 The divers are at the boat. The divers are at the boat.
742 00:29:39,114 00:29:43,350 They're checking. They're checking.
743 00:29:43,418 00:29:44,685 They're signaling. They're signaling.
744 00:29:44,753 00:29:46,554 The boat is empty. The boat is empty.
745 00:29:46,622 00:29:47,889 No one is in the boat. No one is in the boat.
746 00:29:47,957 00:29:50,825 No sign of little nicole shoemaker. No sign of little nicole shoemaker.
747 00:29:50,893 00:29:52,861 The search will continue... The search will continue...
748 00:29:52,928 00:29:54,596 - Look who I found. - Mommy. - Look who I found. - Mommy.
749 00:29:54,663 00:29:56,998 - Nicole! Nicole! Oh, thank god! - Nicole! Nicole! Oh, thank god!
750 00:29:57,066 00:29:59,334 - She was asleep in the storage shed behind the boathouse. - She was asleep in the storage shed behind the boathouse.
751 00:29:59,402 00:30:00,769 - It doesn't matter. - Oh, baby. - It doesn't matter. - Oh, baby.
752 00:30:00,836 00:30:02,504 I was so worried about you! I was so worried about you!
753 00:30:02,571 00:30:04,673 - She's safe now. You're safe with grandpa. - She's safe now. You're safe with grandpa.
754 00:30:04,740 00:30:08,076 - We'll take her. - What? - We'll take her. - What?
755 00:30:08,143 00:30:11,246 You go finish your yoga. You go finish your yoga.
756 00:30:14,984 00:30:19,354 What's everyone looking at? What's everyone looking at?
757 00:30:19,422 00:30:22,491 I didn't do anything wrong! I didn't do anything wrong!
758 00:30:27,131 00:30:28,598 - Good morning. - Good morning.
759 00:30:28,666 00:30:30,967 - The lehmans are moving for sole custody of nicole. - The lehmans are moving for sole custody of nicole.
760 00:30:31,035 00:30:33,602 They want dana declared an unfit parent. They want dana declared an unfit parent.
761 00:30:33,670 00:30:34,870 - That's a pretty extreme reaction - That's a pretty extreme reaction
762 00:30:34,938 00:30:36,572 To an eight-year-old being an eight-year-old. To an eight-year-old being an eight-year-old.
763 00:30:36,640 00:30:38,073 - Yeah, well, if you think that's extreme, - Yeah, well, if you think that's extreme,
764 00:30:38,141 00:30:40,108 They're even kicking dana out of their house. They're even kicking dana out of their house.
765 00:30:40,176 00:30:42,143 She's in lock-down at an airport hotel. She's in lock-down at an airport hotel.
766 00:30:42,211 00:30:45,112 - They also claim oscar silva's an unfit guardian - They also claim oscar silva's an unfit guardian
767 00:30:45,180 00:30:46,280 Because of his health. Because of his health.
768 00:30:46,348 00:30:48,249 - Just covering their bases. - Just covering their bases.
769 00:30:48,316 00:30:49,583 - Well, I'll say. - Well, I'll say.
770 00:30:49,651 00:30:51,485 They attached that brazilian medical record They attached that brazilian medical record
771 00:30:51,553 00:30:53,888 About silva's aneurysm. About silva's aneurysm.
772 00:30:53,956 00:30:56,057 At the top of the page here is the fax number At the top of the page here is the fax number
773 00:30:56,125 00:30:58,660 The medical record was faxed from to the lehmans. The medical record was faxed from to the lehmans.
774 00:30:58,727 00:31:00,395 That's new jersey, isn't it? That's new jersey, isn't it?
775 00:31:04,033 00:31:07,069 It's a fax number registered to shoemaker's college. It's a fax number registered to shoemaker's college.
776 00:31:07,137 00:31:09,973 He's sharing information with his ex-in-laws? He's sharing information with his ex-in-laws?
777 00:31:10,040 00:31:12,608 - What's the big mystery? - What's the big mystery?
778 00:31:12,676 00:31:15,911 Neither shoemaker nor his former in-laws Neither shoemaker nor his former in-laws
779 00:31:15,979 00:31:18,847 Want to be schlepping to brazil to see the girl. Want to be schlepping to brazil to see the girl.
780 00:31:18,915 00:31:21,849 Makes perfect sense they'd find common cause on this point. Makes perfect sense they'd find common cause on this point.
781 00:31:21,917 00:31:24,051 - Except according to the header on this document, - Except according to the header on this document,
782 00:31:24,119 00:31:26,286 Shoemaker faxed the medical report to the lehmans Shoemaker faxed the medical report to the lehmans
783 00:31:26,354 00:31:27,654 Three months ago. Three months ago.
784 00:31:27,722 00:31:29,556 - Makes you wonder how long they've been cooperating - Makes you wonder how long they've been cooperating
785 00:31:29,624 00:31:31,358 To get the girl back. To get the girl back.
786 00:31:31,425 00:31:34,194 - You're thinking the attempt on oscar silva's life? - You're thinking the attempt on oscar silva's life?
787 00:31:34,262 00:31:35,395 - Well, why not? - Well, why not?
788 00:31:35,463 00:31:36,563 If you're willing to have your daughter If you're willing to have your daughter
789 00:31:36,631 00:31:37,865 Declared an unfit parent, Declared an unfit parent,
790 00:31:37,933 00:31:40,701 Then whacking your brazilian son-in-law Then whacking your brazilian son-in-law
791 00:31:40,769 00:31:42,136 Doesn't seem so extreme. Doesn't seem so extreme.
792 00:31:42,204 00:31:45,340 - Except the evidence points to shoemaker acting alone. - Except the evidence points to shoemaker acting alone.
793 00:31:45,407 00:31:46,474 - Not all the evidence. - Not all the evidence.
794 00:31:46,542 00:31:48,176 We still haven't traced the 500 bucks We still haven't traced the 500 bucks
795 00:31:48,244 00:31:49,645 Used to buy the methyl-p. Used to buy the methyl-p.
796 00:31:49,712 00:31:51,613 We know shoemaker didn't pull it out of his bank account. We know shoemaker didn't pull it out of his bank account.
797 00:31:51,681 00:31:55,650 - Then you'd better subpoena the lehmans' bank records. - Then you'd better subpoena the lehmans' bank records.
798 00:31:55,718 00:31:57,319 A happy ending. A happy ending.
799 00:31:57,386 00:31:59,387 It's starting to look like wishful thinking. It's starting to look like wishful thinking.
800 00:31:59,455 00:32:00,388 - Yeah, with everyone too busy - Yeah, with everyone too busy
801 00:32:00,456 00:32:01,790 Trying to get custody of nicole, Trying to get custody of nicole,
802 00:32:01,857 00:32:03,358 It's dumb luck she didn't end up on that boat. It's dumb luck she didn't end up on that boat.
803 00:32:03,425 00:32:06,861 - Maybe luck had nothing to do with it. - Maybe luck had nothing to do with it.
804 00:32:10,064 00:32:11,865 - Nelson's running an errand. - Nelson's running an errand.
805 00:32:11,933 00:32:13,834 If you want to come back in a few hours... If you want to come back in a few hours...
806 00:32:13,902 00:32:15,870 - Oh, it's just a few routine questions. - Oh, it's just a few routine questions.
807 00:32:15,937 00:32:17,672 And since there was so much money spent on the search, And since there was so much money spent on the search,
808 00:32:17,739 00:32:19,540 The city comptroller wants to make sure The city comptroller wants to make sure
809 00:32:19,608 00:32:21,042 All their is are dotted. All their is are dotted.
810 00:32:21,110 00:32:23,278 - I already gave the police a statement. - I already gave the police a statement.
811 00:32:23,345 00:32:24,646 - Oh, yes, about how your daughter - Oh, yes, about how your daughter
812 00:32:24,713 00:32:27,048 Was too busy to keep an eye on nicole. Was too busy to keep an eye on nicole.
813 00:32:27,116 00:32:29,851 Has dana always been so negligent? Has dana always been so negligent?
814 00:32:29,919 00:32:33,621 - I didn't see it when she was living here with phillip. - I didn't see it when she was living here with phillip.
815 00:32:33,689 00:32:35,156 But the past three years- But the past three years-
816 00:32:35,223 00:32:37,724 I can't speak to what happens in brazil. I can't speak to what happens in brazil.
817 00:32:37,792 00:32:39,760 - Three years. That's a long time. - Three years. That's a long time.
818 00:32:39,827 00:32:41,595 You must have really missed your granddaughter. You must have really missed your granddaughter.
819 00:32:41,663 00:32:45,399 - Yes. She's our only grandchild. - Yes. She's our only grandchild.
820 00:32:45,467 00:32:48,135 - We understand that your son-in-law mr. Silva - We understand that your son-in-law mr. Silva
821 00:32:48,203 00:32:50,003 Is awake and walking. Is awake and walking.
822 00:32:50,071 00:32:52,973 So when phillip goes to jail, So when phillip goes to jail,
823 00:32:53,040 00:32:55,609 I assume your daughter will be taking nicole with her I assume your daughter will be taking nicole with her
824 00:32:55,676 00:32:56,843 Back to brazil. Back to brazil.
825 00:32:56,911 00:33:00,213 - I-I-I don't know. - I-I-I don't know.
826 00:33:00,280 00:33:02,748 - It's obvious what nicole means to you. - It's obvious what nicole means to you.
827 00:33:02,816 00:33:05,784 The prospect of losing her a second time must be awful. The prospect of losing her a second time must be awful.
828 00:33:05,852 00:33:08,453 Awful enough for you to want to ensure Awful enough for you to want to ensure
829 00:33:08,521 00:33:10,922 Dana can't take her back to brazil. Dana can't take her back to brazil.
830 00:33:10,990 00:33:15,594 - It's almost empty. Want more tea? - It's almost empty. Want more tea?
831 00:33:15,662 00:33:19,098 - Mrs. Lehman, we can get a subpoena - Mrs. Lehman, we can get a subpoena
832 00:33:19,166 00:33:21,034 To do a drug test on nicole. To do a drug test on nicole.
833 00:33:21,102 00:33:23,103 Whatever you gave her to make her sleep, Whatever you gave her to make her sleep,
834 00:33:23,171 00:33:25,139 It'll still be in her system. It'll still be in her system.
835 00:33:25,206 00:33:27,308 - Child services will question her. - Child services will question her.
836 00:33:27,376 00:33:29,811 Do you really want to put her through that? Do you really want to put her through that?
837 00:33:37,986 00:33:40,421 - We came home. - We came home.
838 00:33:40,489 00:33:43,558 Dana was in her room, doing yoga. Dana was in her room, doing yoga.
839 00:33:43,626 00:33:46,027 Nicole was just sitting there, Nicole was just sitting there,
840 00:33:46,094 00:33:48,429 Watching tv, Watching tv,
841 00:33:48,497 00:33:49,897 Like a good little angel. Like a good little angel.
842 00:33:49,965 00:33:52,666 And we started to think And we started to think
843 00:33:52,734 00:33:57,171 How we couldn't lose our angel again. How we couldn't lose our angel again.
844 00:33:59,273 00:34:01,908 We gave nicole a glass of lemonade We gave nicole a glass of lemonade
845 00:34:01,976 00:34:04,310 With an allergy pill in it With an allergy pill in it
846 00:34:04,378 00:34:07,346 And nelson carried her out into the shed. And nelson carried her out into the shed.
847 00:34:07,414 00:34:11,316 Nelson's a retired biology teacher, Nelson's a retired biology teacher,
848 00:34:11,384 00:34:14,653 And he said it would just make her sleepy. And he said it would just make her sleepy.
849 00:34:14,720 00:34:17,856 Then nelson set the boat adrift. Then nelson set the boat adrift.
850 00:34:17,924 00:34:19,358 We called the police. We called the police.
851 00:34:19,425 00:34:22,660 We didn't mean to cause so much trouble. We didn't mean to cause so much trouble.
852 00:34:22,728 00:34:25,263 I mean, we just... I mean, we just...
853 00:34:25,331 00:34:28,300 We love her so much. We love her so much.
854 00:34:28,367 00:34:31,136 - Did phillip shoemaker know what you were planning to do? - Did phillip shoemaker know what you were planning to do?
855 00:34:31,204 00:34:34,339 - No. It wasn't planned. - No. It wasn't planned.
856 00:34:34,407 00:34:36,341 - But you've stayed in touch with mr. Shoemaker - But you've stayed in touch with mr. Shoemaker
857 00:34:36,409 00:34:37,509 Over the years. Over the years.
858 00:34:37,577 00:34:39,144 - Yes, we've stayed friendly. - Yes, we've stayed friendly.
859 00:34:39,212 00:34:42,849 I mean, we wanted the same things. I mean, we wanted the same things.
860 00:34:42,916 00:34:45,251 To see nicole grow up, To see nicole grow up,
861 00:34:45,319 00:34:47,854 To be a part of her life. To be a part of her life.
862 00:34:47,922 00:34:51,124 It hurt so much to lose her. It hurt so much to lose her.
863 00:34:58,197 00:35:00,332 - Look, you want me to pay for the search? Fine. - Look, you want me to pay for the search? Fine.
864 00:35:00,399 00:35:01,366 I'll write you a check. I'll write you a check.
865 00:35:01,434 00:35:03,201 - You're splashing your cash again. - You're splashing your cash again.
866 00:35:03,269 00:35:04,535 You been doing a lot of that lately. You been doing a lot of that lately.
867 00:35:04,603 00:35:07,871 Sit down. Sit down.
868 00:35:07,939 00:35:11,942 A $500 atm withdrawal three weeks ago. A $500 atm withdrawal three weeks ago.
869 00:35:12,009 00:35:14,611 And two hours later, you bought a money order And two hours later, you bought a money order
870 00:35:14,679 00:35:17,381 In the same amount, made payable to vernon clayton. In the same amount, made payable to vernon clayton.
871 00:35:17,448 00:35:20,918 The clerk at the western union I.D.'d your photo. The clerk at the western union I.D.'d your photo.
872 00:35:20,986 00:35:22,987 - That money was for the methyl-p - That money was for the methyl-p
873 00:35:23,055 00:35:25,290 Phillip shoemaker used to poison oscar. Phillip shoemaker used to poison oscar.
874 00:35:25,358 00:35:26,558 - You're nuts. - You're nuts.
875 00:35:26,626 00:35:29,161 - Mr. Lehman, you saw how much your wife - Mr. Lehman, you saw how much your wife
876 00:35:29,229 00:35:30,596 Missed your granddaughter. Missed your granddaughter.
877 00:35:30,663 00:35:34,333 You saw it for three long years. You saw it for three long years.
878 00:35:34,400 00:35:35,567 - I didn't kill anybody. - I didn't kill anybody.
879 00:35:35,635 00:35:38,236 - Look, you can stonewall all you want. - Look, you can stonewall all you want.
880 00:35:38,304 00:35:40,705 But there's enough here to assume your wife But there's enough here to assume your wife
881 00:35:40,773 00:35:42,340 Was in on the murder attempt too. Was in on the murder attempt too.
882 00:35:42,407 00:35:44,642 And certainly the boat hoax. And certainly the boat hoax.
883 00:35:44,710 00:35:46,944 Either way, she'll do time. Either way, she'll do time.
884 00:35:47,011 00:35:49,779 - No. She- - No. She-
885 00:35:52,282 00:35:56,085 Look, I did it. Look, I did it.
886 00:35:56,153 00:35:57,954 It was all me. It was all me.
887 00:35:58,022 00:36:01,025 I poisoned silva. I poisoned silva.
888 00:36:03,028 00:36:05,096 I wasn't going to let him take our granddaughter I wasn't going to let him take our granddaughter
889 00:36:05,164 00:36:07,599 Away from us, from sharon, ever again. Away from us, from sharon, ever again.
890 00:36:07,667 00:36:09,868 - If you're willing to testify against shoemaker- - If you're willing to testify against shoemaker-
891 00:36:09,936 00:36:11,937 - No, he-he had nothing to do with it. - No, he-he had nothing to do with it.
892 00:36:12,005 00:36:14,473 I was the one who walked into that breakfast, I was the one who walked into that breakfast,
893 00:36:14,540 00:36:17,809 And I put the methyl-p on silva's cereal. And I put the methyl-p on silva's cereal.
894 00:36:17,877 00:36:20,311 - We know the methyl-p was shipped to shoemaker's house. - We know the methyl-p was shipped to shoemaker's house.
895 00:36:20,379 00:36:21,746 - No. He had no idea what it was. - No. He had no idea what it was.
896 00:36:21,814 00:36:23,281 I shipped it to his house I shipped it to his house
897 00:36:23,349 00:36:25,550 So that it wouldn't involve my wife. So that it wouldn't involve my wife.
898 00:36:25,617 00:36:28,619 The whole thing was my idea, you understand? The whole thing was my idea, you understand?
899 00:36:28,687 00:36:31,055 Nobody else. Nobody else.
900 00:36:31,123 00:36:33,391 Nobody. Nobody.
901 00:36:36,161 00:36:37,562 - Nelson's falling on his sword. - Nelson's falling on his sword.
902 00:36:37,630 00:36:39,831 If he cops to everything, shoemaker walks. If he cops to everything, shoemaker walks.
903 00:36:39,899 00:36:42,567 - And if he does, he gets to retain sole custody of nicole. - And if he does, he gets to retain sole custody of nicole.
904 00:36:42,635 00:36:45,337 Meaning grandma lehman gets to spend her golden years Meaning grandma lehman gets to spend her golden years
905 00:36:45,404 00:36:46,672 Doting over her granddaughter. Doting over her granddaughter.
906 00:36:46,740 00:36:50,109 - Not a bad play for mr. Lehman. Take his plea. - Not a bad play for mr. Lehman. Take his plea.
907 00:36:50,177 00:36:53,246 - Two people conspired to poison silva. - Two people conspired to poison silva.
908 00:36:53,313 00:36:55,247 Now I'm not letting shoemaker off the hook. Now I'm not letting shoemaker off the hook.
909 00:36:55,315 00:36:56,548 - Bird in hand. - Bird in hand.
910 00:36:56,616 00:36:58,917 In the meantime, lehman'll have eight years minimum In the meantime, lehman'll have eight years minimum
911 00:36:58,985 00:37:02,154 To agonize over his decision to cover for shoemaker. To agonize over his decision to cover for shoemaker.
912 00:37:02,222 00:37:05,524 Meaning sooner or later, he'll be ready to deal. Meaning sooner or later, he'll be ready to deal.
913 00:37:05,592 00:37:09,128 Now take the plea. I'm not asking. Now take the plea. I'm not asking.
914 00:37:13,031 00:37:17,435 - I waited until silva got up to make a call. - I waited until silva got up to make a call.
915 00:37:17,503 00:37:19,337 Then I poured the contents Then I poured the contents
916 00:37:19,405 00:37:22,506 Of 12500-milligram capsules of methylphenidate Of 12500-milligram capsules of methylphenidate
917 00:37:22,574 00:37:24,976 Into his cereal. Into his cereal.
918 00:37:25,043 00:37:27,378 I wanted to kill him so that my daughter I wanted to kill him so that my daughter
919 00:37:27,446 00:37:30,915 Would be forced to move back here with nicole. Would be forced to move back here with nicole.
920 00:37:33,051 00:37:35,653 And that's all of it. And that's all of it.
921 00:37:35,720 00:37:39,757 - Mr. Cutter, are the people satisfied? - Mr. Cutter, are the people satisfied?
922 00:37:44,496 00:37:46,029 - Just one small matter, - Just one small matter,
923 00:37:46,097 00:37:47,998 Concerning the shipping of the poison. Concerning the shipping of the poison.
924 00:37:48,066 00:37:51,068 I'd like to call phillip shoemaker to the stand I'd like to call phillip shoemaker to the stand
925 00:37:51,135 00:37:53,169 To corroborate mr. Lehman's statement. To corroborate mr. Lehman's statement.
926 00:37:53,237 00:37:54,437 - Judge, we object. - Judge, we object.
927 00:37:54,505 00:37:56,807 Mr. Shoemaker is not part of these proceedings. Mr. Shoemaker is not part of these proceedings.
928 00:37:56,874 00:37:59,209 - If we can't corroborate mr. Lehman's statement, - If we can't corroborate mr. Lehman's statement,
929 00:37:59,277 00:38:01,276 We're going to reject the plea agreement. We're going to reject the plea agreement.
930 00:38:01,344 00:38:04,813 - There's no procedural bar. Ms. Marks? - There's no procedural bar. Ms. Marks?
931 00:38:08,884 00:38:11,018 - My client has no objection to testifying, - My client has no objection to testifying,
932 00:38:11,086 00:38:12,919 Your honor. Your honor.
933 00:38:18,425 00:38:20,625 - Nelson said he was going out of town, - Nelson said he was going out of town,
934 00:38:20,693 00:38:23,159 And he asked could he have a package shipped to my house. And he asked could he have a package shipped to my house.
935 00:38:23,226 00:38:24,359 I didn't know what it was. I didn't know what it was.
936 00:38:24,427 00:38:25,993 I didn't open it. I just gave it to him. I didn't open it. I just gave it to him.
937 00:38:26,061 00:38:27,828 - But at any point, did you and mr. Lehman - But at any point, did you and mr. Lehman
938 00:38:27,896 00:38:29,863 Discuss poisoning dr. Silva Discuss poisoning dr. Silva
939 00:38:29,931 00:38:31,731 In a scheme to get your daughter back? In a scheme to get your daughter back?
940 00:38:31,799 00:38:33,599 - Absolutely not. I'd never do that. - Absolutely not. I'd never do that.
941 00:38:33,667 00:38:35,201 - So you expect us to believe - So you expect us to believe
942 00:38:35,268 00:38:37,303 That you had zero to do with this, That you had zero to do with this,
943 00:38:37,371 00:38:38,838 Despite the fact your ex Despite the fact your ex
944 00:38:38,905 00:38:41,073 Practically kidnapped your daughter? Practically kidnapped your daughter?
945 00:38:41,140 00:38:43,542 You even got a court order awarding you sole custody, You even got a court order awarding you sole custody,
946 00:38:43,609 00:38:44,776 Isn't that right? Isn't that right?
947 00:38:44,844 00:38:46,210 - That's right. - That's right.
948 00:38:46,278 00:38:48,413 - Despite all the trips you took to brazil to have her returned, - Despite all the trips you took to brazil to have her returned,
949 00:38:48,480 00:38:51,181 All the money that you spent on lawyers? All the money that you spent on lawyers?
950 00:38:51,249 00:38:52,816 - Uh, it's- it's in the past. - Uh, it's- it's in the past.
951 00:38:52,884 00:38:54,418 - You mean, you've given up - You mean, you've given up
952 00:38:54,485 00:38:55,586 On trying to get your daughter back? On trying to get your daughter back?
953 00:38:55,653 00:38:58,455 - I've moved on. - You've moved on? - I've moved on. - You've moved on?
954 00:38:58,523 00:39:01,958 - Yes. My-my work takes up all my life now. - Yes. My-my work takes up all my life now.
955 00:39:02,026 00:39:03,260 I lecture, I teach. I lecture, I teach.
956 00:39:03,328 00:39:06,631 I spend maybe 60 days out of the year at home now. I spend maybe 60 days out of the year at home now.
957 00:39:06,698 00:39:07,899 There's-there's really- There's-there's really-
958 00:39:07,967 00:39:09,701 There's really no room for her in my life now. There's really no room for her in my life now.
959 00:39:09,768 00:39:11,836 - So you're telling us - So you're telling us
960 00:39:11,904 00:39:14,238 That you've stopped caring for your daughter? That you've stopped caring for your daughter?
961 00:39:14,306 00:39:18,642 Caring enough to do whatever it takes to get her back? Caring enough to do whatever it takes to get her back?
962 00:39:18,710 00:39:22,546 - Look, um, after three years, she's- - Look, um, after three years, she's-
963 00:39:22,613 00:39:24,213 She's basically dead to me. She's basically dead to me.
964 00:39:24,281 00:39:26,248 I don't really have an emotional bond with her anymore. I don't really have an emotional bond with her anymore.
965 00:39:26,316 00:39:28,450 - Judge, is there an end in sight here? - Judge, is there an end in sight here?
966 00:39:28,518 00:39:29,685 - Mr. Cutter, - Mr. Cutter,
967 00:39:29,753 00:39:31,687 I assume this constitutes ample corroboration? I assume this constitutes ample corroboration?
968 00:39:31,755 00:39:34,990 - Just one more thing, your honor. - Just one more thing, your honor.
969 00:39:35,058 00:39:38,061 - Your daughter is eight, sir. - Your daughter is eight, sir.
970 00:39:38,128 00:39:40,430 In a few years, she'll read In a few years, she'll read
971 00:39:40,498 00:39:42,466 The transcripts of your testimony here. The transcripts of your testimony here.
972 00:39:42,534 00:39:44,101 How do you think she'll react to it? How do you think she'll react to it?
973 00:39:46,505 00:39:48,272 - I haven't really given it much thought. - I haven't really given it much thought.
974 00:39:48,340 00:39:49,674 - Oh, you haven't given much thought - Oh, you haven't given much thought
975 00:39:49,742 00:39:53,277 To the fact that you've just publicly disowned her? To the fact that you've just publicly disowned her?
976 00:39:53,345 00:39:55,379 Once she reads that, you think she'll have Once she reads that, you think she'll have
977 00:39:55,447 00:39:56,514 Anything more to do with you? Anything more to do with you?
978 00:39:56,581 00:39:57,648 - Objection. - Objection.
979 00:39:57,716 00:39:59,216 - This goes to credibility, your honor. - This goes to credibility, your honor.
980 00:39:59,283 00:40:03,085 - Overruled. Mr. Shoemaker? - Overruled. Mr. Shoemaker?
981 00:40:03,153 00:40:05,788 - Um, I don't know. - Um, I don't know.
982 00:40:05,856 00:40:08,557 I- I love my daughter very much. I- I love my daughter very much.
983 00:40:08,624 00:40:10,292 I would do anything for her, and she knows that. I would do anything for her, and she knows that.
984 00:40:10,359 00:40:11,726 - That's not what you said. - That's not what you said.
985 00:40:11,794 00:40:13,294 I asked if you'd given up I asked if you'd given up
986 00:40:13,362 00:40:14,463 On trying to get your daughter back, On trying to get your daughter back,
987 00:40:14,530 00:40:17,532 And you said that you'd moved on. And you said that you'd moved on.
988 00:40:17,600 00:40:19,134 - I-I didn't mean it that way. - I-I didn't mean it that way.
989 00:40:19,202 00:40:20,836 - So you haven't moved on? - No. - So you haven't moved on? - No.
990 00:40:20,904 00:40:23,573 - Now you testified that there was no room - Now you testified that there was no room
991 00:40:23,640 00:40:25,308 In your life for her, is that true? In your life for her, is that true?
992 00:40:25,376 00:40:26,743 - No. - No.
993 00:40:26,811 00:40:29,346 - You said you no longer felt an emotional bond with her. - You said you no longer felt an emotional bond with her.
994 00:40:29,414 00:40:33,217 She's dead to you. She's dead to you.
995 00:40:36,721 00:40:39,222 I can tell you from experience, mr. Shoemaker, I can tell you from experience, mr. Shoemaker,
996 00:40:39,290 00:40:43,459 Kids don't forget, and they don't forgive. Kids don't forget, and they don't forgive.
997 00:40:43,527 00:40:44,894 - You tricked me. - You tricked me.
998 00:40:44,962 00:40:46,995 The-these words, they're not true. The-these words, they're not true.
999 00:40:47,063 00:40:49,464 - Well, how much of what you said here is true, sir? - Well, how much of what you said here is true, sir?
1000 00:40:49,532 00:40:51,032 Most of it? Some? None of it? Most of it? Some? None of it?
1001 00:40:51,099 00:40:52,266 - None of it. None of it, actually. - None of it. None of it, actually.
1002 00:40:52,334 00:40:54,135 None of it. I-I would do anything for nicole. None of it. I-I would do anything for nicole.
1003 00:40:54,203 00:40:55,203 - Anything? - Yes! - Anything? - Yes!
1004 00:40:55,270 00:40:56,438 - Even risk going to jail? - Even risk going to jail?
1005 00:40:56,505 00:40:57,606 - Yes. - Yes.
1006 00:40:57,673 00:41:00,876 - And even poison oscar silva? - And even poison oscar silva?
1007 00:41:00,944 00:41:02,812 - Yes. - Yes.
1008 00:41:16,595 00:41:20,965 They stole her from me. They stole her from me.
1009 00:41:21,033 00:41:24,034 She was my life. She gave my world meaning. She was my life. She gave my world meaning.
1010 00:41:24,102 00:41:28,005 She made the world a happier place. She made the world a happier place.
1011 00:41:28,072 00:41:29,806 And they took her from me. And they took her from me.
1012 00:41:32,677 00:41:35,679 They took my daughter! They took my daughter!
1013 00:41:45,290 00:41:48,392 - Two guilty pleas. - Two guilty pleas.
1014 00:41:48,460 00:41:51,595 You look like someone ran over your dog. You look like someone ran over your dog.
1015 00:41:51,663 00:41:55,566 - Well, I won, but nicole shoemaker lost. - Well, I won, but nicole shoemaker lost.
1016 00:41:55,633 00:41:58,401 She'll grow up with a father and grandfather in prison, She'll grow up with a father and grandfather in prison,
1017 00:41:58,469 00:41:59,938 Under the care of a mom Under the care of a mom
1018 00:42:00,005 00:42:03,074 Whose selfishness set this whole tragedy in motion. Whose selfishness set this whole tragedy in motion.
1019 00:42:03,142 00:42:05,243 - It's why I never went into family law. - It's why I never went into family law.
1020 00:42:05,311 00:42:07,078 It's where all the heartbreak is. It's where all the heartbreak is.
1021 00:42:07,146 00:42:09,847 - Heartbreak is everywhere in this job, - Heartbreak is everywhere in this job,
1022 00:42:09,915 00:42:11,115 As you both know. As you both know.
1023 00:42:11,183 00:42:14,920 Take consolation in getting the right result. Take consolation in getting the right result.
1024 00:42:14,988 00:42:17,356 It was a good day's work. It was a good day's work.
1025 00:42:17,424 00:42:20,292 - Yeah. But not a good day. - Yeah. But not a good day.
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