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1 | 00:00:00,067 | 00:00:01,967 | In the criminal justice system, | In the criminal justice system, |
2 | 00:00:01,968 | 00:00:04,168 | The people are represented by two separate, | The people are represented by two separate, |
3 | 00:00:04,169 | 00:00:05,469 | Yet equally important groups | Yet equally important groups |
4 | 00:00:05,470 | 00:00:07,770 | The police who investigate crime | The police who investigate crime |
5 | 00:00:07,771 | 00:00:10,271 | And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. | And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. |
6 | 00:00:10,272 | 00:00:11,672 | These are their stories. | These are their stories. |
7 | 00:00:16,573 | 00:00:18,073 | Suspect's inside the apartament? | Suspect's inside the apartament? |
8 | 00:00:18,168 | 00:00:20,535 | - Neighbors confirmed-- cedric stuber, | - Neighbors confirmed-- cedric stuber, |
9 | 00:00:20,603 | 00:00:22,037 | Lives with his mother, third floor. | Lives with his mother, third floor. |
10 | 00:00:22,104 | 00:00:23,972 | This is the gentleman that called in the tip. | This is the gentleman that called in the tip. |
11 | 00:00:24,039 | 00:00:25,726 | - I recognized the guy from the police sketch. | - I recognized the guy from the police sketch. |
12 | 00:00:25,794 | 00:00:27,601 | I followed him here, called 911. | I followed him here, called 911. |
13 | 00:00:27,669 | 00:00:30,861 | He's the killer. - All right, stay here. | He's the killer. - All right, stay here. |
14 | 00:00:30,929 | 00:00:33,082 | - N.Y.P.D. | - N.Y.P.D. |
15 | 00:00:33,150 | 00:00:34,587 | - What is it? | - What is it? |
16 | 00:00:34,654 | 00:00:37,299 | - We just have a few questions to ask you, ma'am. | - We just have a few questions to ask you, ma'am. |
17 | 00:00:37,366 | 00:00:39,012 | - Quit yelling in the hallway. | - Quit yelling in the hallway. |
18 | 00:00:39,080 | 00:00:41,397 | - Mrs. Stuber? - Yeah. What do you want? | - Mrs. Stuber? - Yeah. What do you want? |
19 | 00:00:41,464 | 00:00:43,903 | - We'd like to talk to your son cedric. | - We'd like to talk to your son cedric. |
20 | 00:00:43,971 | 00:00:45,709 | - He didn't do nothing. | - He didn't do nothing. |
21 | 00:00:45,777 | 00:00:48,380 | [toilet flushes] - hey. | [toilet flushes] - hey. |
22 | 00:00:57,238 | 00:00:59,876 | No, no. Hey! | No, no. Hey! |
23 | 00:00:59,944 | 00:01:02,879 | [grunting] | [grunting] |
24 | 00:01:02,947 | 00:01:05,218 | - Ah! | - Ah! |
25 | 00:01:05,285 | 00:01:07,755 | - Let him go! | - Let him go! |
26 | 00:01:07,822 | 00:01:09,224 | My baby! My baby! | My baby! My baby! |
27 | 00:01:09,292 | 00:01:10,460 | - Hey! | - Hey! |
28 | 00:01:10,527 | 00:01:13,030 | Get her out of here! - No! | Get her out of here! - No! |
29 | 00:01:13,098 | 00:01:14,767 | No! | No! |
30 | 00:01:14,835 | 00:01:17,238 | - That's him! That's the gay basher! | - That's him! That's the gay basher! |
31 | 00:01:17,306 | 00:01:19,910 | - Why'd you kill him? Do you hate gays? | - Why'd you kill him? Do you hate gays? |
32 | 00:01:19,977 | 00:01:22,482 | - Gay basher! - Gay basher! | - Gay basher! - Gay basher! |
33 | 00:01:22,549 | 00:01:23,951 | - I'm bleeding. | - I'm bleeding. |
34 | 00:01:24,019 | 00:01:25,821 | - We'll take care of you down at the station. | - We'll take care of you down at the station. |
35 | 00:01:25,889 | 00:01:28,492 | Or you can ask one of these gentlemen for a band-aid. | Or you can ask one of these gentlemen for a band-aid. |
36 | 00:01:28,560 | 00:01:30,929 | - Murderer! - Hater! | - Murderer! - Hater! |
37 | 00:01:30,997 | 00:01:33,366 | - Gay basher! - Gay basher! | - Gay basher! - Gay basher! |
38 | 00:01:45,167 | 00:01:46,867 | Sync: Adriano_CSI | Sync: Adriano_CSI |
39 | 00:02:20,299 | 00:02:21,532 | - Where were you last Tuesday night? | - Where were you last Tuesday night? |
40 | 00:02:21,600 | 00:02:23,034 | - Home with my mom. - Mm-hmm. | - Home with my mom. - Mm-hmm. |
41 | 00:02:23,101 | 00:02:24,435 | What did the two of you do? | What did the two of you do? |
42 | 00:02:24,503 | 00:02:26,170 | - I don't know-- watched tv. | - I don't know-- watched tv. |
43 | 00:02:26,237 | 00:02:29,171 | - Which channel? - [laughs] I don't know. | - Which channel? - [laughs] I don't know. |
44 | 00:02:29,238 | 00:02:31,539 | I was surfing. - Remember this guy? | I was surfing. - Remember this guy? |
45 | 00:02:31,607 | 00:02:33,673 | - Uh, that--I got nothing to do with that. | - Uh, that--I got nothing to do with that. |
46 | 00:02:33,740 | 00:02:35,507 | - So you do know what this is about. | - So you do know what this is about. |
47 | 00:02:35,575 | 00:02:38,743 | - Yeah, I watch the news. - That guy you killed? | - Yeah, I watch the news. - That guy you killed? |
48 | 00:02:38,811 | 00:02:41,278 | His partner got a real good look at you. | His partner got a real good look at you. |
49 | 00:02:41,346 | 00:02:43,513 | - How'd it go down? | - How'd it go down? |
50 | 00:02:43,581 | 00:02:45,415 | The victim say something? | The victim say something? |
51 | 00:02:45,483 | 00:02:48,316 | Things got out of hand? - I didn't kill no gay dude. | Things got out of hand? - I didn't kill no gay dude. |
52 | 00:02:48,384 | 00:02:52,018 | - It's beneath you, huh? | - It's beneath you, huh? |
53 | 00:02:52,086 | 00:02:54,253 | Straight guys never have a problem | Straight guys never have a problem |
54 | 00:02:54,321 | 00:02:56,088 | With two girls together. | With two girls together. |
55 | 00:02:56,156 | 00:02:57,923 | It's kind of hot. | It's kind of hot. |
56 | 00:02:58,024 | 00:03:01,426 | But two guys... | But two guys... |
57 | 00:03:03,328 | 00:03:06,030 | It's the ass thing, right? | It's the ass thing, right? |
58 | 00:03:06,098 | 00:03:09,266 | - Does that skeeve you, cedric? | - Does that skeeve you, cedric? |
59 | 00:03:09,334 | 00:03:10,801 | Hmm? | Hmm? |
60 | 00:03:10,869 | 00:03:13,270 | Imagining what two guys do together-- | Imagining what two guys do together-- |
61 | 00:03:13,337 | 00:03:14,737 | The ins, the outs, what goes where? | The ins, the outs, what goes where? |
62 | 00:03:14,805 | 00:03:16,772 | - Doesn't bother me. | - Doesn't bother me. |
63 | 00:03:16,840 | 00:03:19,475 | - Oka-- maybe he likes it. | - Oka-- maybe he likes it. |
64 | 00:03:19,543 | 00:03:21,744 | Is that--is that it? | Is that--is that it? |
65 | 00:03:21,812 | 00:03:23,912 | Maybe that's why you were downtown, | Maybe that's why you were downtown, |
66 | 00:03:23,980 | 00:03:27,048 | Looking for a little taste... | Looking for a little taste... |
67 | 00:03:27,116 | 00:03:30,450 | Something on the down low? | Something on the down low? |
68 | 00:03:30,518 | 00:03:31,951 | Hmm? | Hmm? |
69 | 00:03:32,019 | 00:03:34,286 | - You like a nice ass on a man, cedric? | - You like a nice ass on a man, cedric? |
70 | 00:03:34,354 | 00:03:36,788 | - Shut up! You shut up! | - Shut up! You shut up! |
71 | 00:03:36,856 | 00:03:39,891 | I ain't no fag. | I ain't no fag. |
72 | 00:03:39,959 | 00:03:41,125 | - Stuber's our guy-- | - Stuber's our guy-- |
73 | 00:03:41,193 | 00:03:43,528 | Access to the weapon, shaky alibi, the hoodie. | Access to the weapon, shaky alibi, the hoodie. |
74 | 00:03:43,596 | 00:03:45,696 | C.S.U. Just couldn't find physical evidence. | C.S.U. Just couldn't find physical evidence. |
75 | 00:03:45,764 | 00:03:48,631 | - So the case hangs on the I.D. | - So the case hangs on the I.D. |
76 | 00:03:48,699 | 00:03:50,966 | Mr. Sorrentino, how you doing? | Mr. Sorrentino, how you doing? |
77 | 00:03:51,034 | 00:03:54,235 | - Every time I come down here, it's like reliving that night. | - Every time I come down here, it's like reliving that night. |
78 | 00:03:54,303 | 00:03:55,902 | So I hope we're not wasting our time. | So I hope we're not wasting our time. |
79 | 00:03:55,970 | 00:03:59,608 | - You're not wasting your time today. | - You're not wasting your time today. |
80 | 00:04:01,843 | 00:04:03,777 | - Take a few extra minutes if you need. | - Take a few extra minutes if you need. |
81 | 00:04:03,845 | 00:04:06,913 | - No. I recognize him. | - No. I recognize him. |
82 | 00:04:06,981 | 00:04:08,781 | Number three. | Number three. |
83 | 00:04:08,849 | 00:04:10,817 | - You sure? | - You sure? |
84 | 00:04:10,885 | 00:04:14,420 | - I'm positive. That's the man who killed alan. | - I'm positive. That's the man who killed alan. |
85 | 00:04:14,487 | 00:04:17,089 | I'll never forget that face. | I'll never forget that face. |
86 | 00:04:17,156 | 00:04:19,624 | - Charge mr. Stuber with murder. | - Charge mr. Stuber with murder. |
87 | 00:04:19,691 | 00:04:22,159 | - Thank you, mr. Sorrentino. I'll walk you out. | - Thank you, mr. Sorrentino. I'll walk you out. |
88 | 00:04:22,227 | 00:04:25,561 | I'll be gone for a few hours. | I'll be gone for a few hours. |
89 | 00:04:27,297 | 00:04:29,098 | - You're charging him on one I. | - You're charging him on one I. |
90 | 00:04:29,166 | 00:04:32,502 | The gay community must have the d.A.'s office by the balls. | The gay community must have the d.A.'s office by the balls. |
91 | 00:04:32,570 | 00:04:35,371 | - Seyou in court, mr. Gilman. | - Seyou in court, mr. Gilman. |
92 | 00:04:35,439 | 00:04:38,407 | - Thanks. I know you're doing everything you can. | - Thanks. I know you're doing everything you can. |
93 | 00:04:38,475 | 00:04:40,308 | The accelerator machine is down. | The accelerator machine is down. |
94 | 00:04:40,376 | 00:04:42,977 | They got a technician working on it. | They got a technician working on it. |
95 | 00:04:43,045 | 00:04:47,381 | - How long? - She couldn't tell me. | - How long? - She couldn't tell me. |
96 | 00:04:47,449 | 00:04:49,182 | - All these people ahead of me-- | - All these people ahead of me-- |
97 | 00:04:49,250 | 00:04:51,150 | I can't take this kind of time. | I can't take this kind of time. |
98 | 00:04:51,218 | 00:04:53,752 | - You can, and you will, babe. | - You can, and you will, babe. |
99 | 00:04:56,055 | 00:04:59,591 | I'm gonna get you some new magazines. | I'm gonna get you some new magazines. |
100 | 00:05:10,399 | 00:05:12,267 | - Is that your husband? [clears throat] | - Is that your husband? [clears throat] |
101 | 00:05:12,335 | 00:05:13,769 | [both chuckle] | [both chuckle] |
102 | 00:05:13,836 | 00:05:15,703 | - Boyfriend. - Mm. | - Boyfriend. - Mm. |
103 | 00:05:15,771 | 00:05:17,105 | He's nice. | He's nice. |
104 | 00:05:17,172 | 00:05:18,706 | - Yep. | - Yep. |
105 | 00:05:18,773 | 00:05:21,708 | - You're lucky to have somebody wait with you. | - You're lucky to have somebody wait with you. |
106 | 00:05:21,776 | 00:05:24,376 | - Well, I haven't seen you before. | - Well, I haven't seen you before. |
107 | 00:05:24,444 | 00:05:26,711 | It's your first time? - Yeah. | It's your first time? - Yeah. |
108 | 00:05:26,779 | 00:05:29,447 | Radiation newbie-- that's me. | Radiation newbie-- that's me. |
109 | 00:05:32,883 | 00:05:37,386 | My oncologist says that radiation is the last chance, | My oncologist says that radiation is the last chance, |
110 | 00:05:37,454 | 00:05:41,188 | That if this doesn't work, then they can't operate. | That if this doesn't work, then they can't operate. |
111 | 00:05:41,256 | 00:05:45,024 | - That's what they say. | - That's what they say. |
112 | 00:05:45,092 | 00:05:47,292 | - Like, the treatment... | - Like, the treatment... |
113 | 00:05:47,360 | 00:05:50,297 | Burns you up inside... | Burns you up inside... |
114 | 00:05:50,364 | 00:05:53,066 | Melts everything together. | Melts everything together. |
115 | 00:05:56,736 | 00:06:01,239 | - Radiation is strong because it has to be. | - Radiation is strong because it has to be. |
116 | 00:06:01,307 | 00:06:03,942 | That's why it works. | That's why it works. |
117 | 00:06:04,010 | 00:06:06,478 | So you keep thinking about that-- | So you keep thinking about that-- |
118 | 00:06:06,545 | 00:06:10,615 | The x-rays destroying the cancer. | The x-rays destroying the cancer. |
119 | 00:06:10,682 | 00:06:12,949 | - [sniffles] okay. | - [sniffles] okay. |
120 | 00:06:13,017 | 00:06:15,051 | - Okay. | - Okay. |
121 | 00:06:15,119 | 00:06:18,754 | - You're a tough girl. | - You're a tough girl. |
122 | 00:06:18,822 | 00:06:22,391 | I can tell. | I can tell. |
123 | 00:06:29,664 | 00:06:31,765 | - [on recording] my husband has been attacked. | - [on recording] my husband has been attacked. |
124 | 00:06:31,833 | 00:06:33,734 | There is blood everywhere. | There is blood everywhere. |
125 | 00:06:33,802 | 00:06:37,738 | It was a white kid in a yellow sweatshirt. | It was a white kid in a yellow sweatshirt. |
126 | 00:06:37,806 | 00:06:40,574 | He had some kind of razor. | He had some kind of razor. |
127 | 00:06:40,642 | 00:06:43,109 | Help us! Alan is bleeding to death! | Help us! Alan is bleeding to death! |
128 | 00:06:43,177 | 00:06:45,078 | - That's you on the tape. | - That's you on the tape. |
129 | 00:06:45,145 | 00:06:47,145 | - Yes. [clears throat] | - Yes. [clears throat] |
130 | 00:06:47,213 | 00:06:48,613 | - Please tell us what happened | - Please tell us what happened |
131 | 00:06:48,681 | 00:06:50,981 | To you and alan camden that night. | To you and alan camden that night. |
132 | 00:06:51,049 | 00:06:54,717 | - We were walking home from a party. | - We were walking home from a party. |
133 | 00:06:54,785 | 00:06:57,220 | We were holding hands. | We were holding hands. |
134 | 00:06:57,288 | 00:07:01,757 | A man on the street saw us, and he spi | A man on the street saw us, and he spi |
135 | 00:07:01,825 | 00:07:04,659 | And he said, "what are you looking at, fags?" | And he said, "what are you looking at, fags?" |
136 | 00:07:04,727 | 00:07:06,728 | - Do you see that man in the courtroom? | - Do you see that man in the courtroom? |
137 | 00:07:06,795 | 00:07:07,828 | - Yes. | - Yes. |
138 | 00:07:07,896 | 00:07:10,664 | The defendant. | The defendant. |
139 | 00:07:10,732 | 00:07:13,433 | - Then what happened? | - Then what happened? |
140 | 00:07:13,501 | 00:07:15,902 | - Alan yelled back. | - Alan yelled back. |
141 | 00:07:15,969 | 00:07:18,037 | He always had a short fuse. | He always had a short fuse. |
142 | 00:07:18,104 | 00:07:21,773 | The man pulled out a box cutter and attacked alan-- | The man pulled out a box cutter and attacked alan-- |
143 | 00:07:21,841 | 00:07:24,242 | Blood spurting everywhere. | Blood spurting everywhere. |
144 | 00:07:24,309 | 00:07:27,511 | I tried to get in between them, | I tried to get in between them, |
145 | 00:07:27,579 | 00:07:30,281 | But he had sliced alan's neck. | But he had sliced alan's neck. |
146 | 00:07:30,348 | 00:07:32,416 | Alan fell... | Alan fell... |
147 | 00:07:32,484 | 00:07:33,517 | Bleeding. | Bleeding. |
148 | 00:07:33,585 | 00:07:36,520 | - And what did mr. Stuber do then? | - And what did mr. Stuber do then? |
149 | 00:07:36,587 | 00:07:41,189 | - He looked at me, and he said... | - He looked at me, and he said... |
150 | 00:07:41,257 | 00:07:45,159 | "keep your mouth shut, faggot, or you'll be next." | "keep your mouth shut, faggot, or you'll be next." |
151 | 00:07:46,828 | 00:07:49,329 | - Thank you. | - Thank you. |
152 | 00:07:49,397 | 00:07:52,831 | - I'm sorry for your loss, sir. | - I'm sorry for your loss, sir. |
153 | 00:07:52,899 | 00:07:55,034 | What--what time were you and your partner | What--what time were you and your partner |
154 | 00:07:55,102 | 00:07:56,269 | Walking home from the party? | Walking home from the party? |
155 | 00:07:56,336 | 00:07:58,036 | - A little after 10:00. | - A little after 10:00. |
156 | 00:07:58,104 | 00:08:00,205 | And alan was more than my partner. | And alan was more than my partner. |
157 | 00:08:00,273 | 00:08:01,373 | We were married. | We were married. |
158 | 00:08:01,441 | 00:08:04,776 | - Of crse. So it was dark out. | - Of crse. So it was dark out. |
159 | 00:08:04,843 | 00:08:07,345 | Had you been drinking? - No. I don't drink. | Had you been drinking? - No. I don't drink. |
160 | 00:08:07,412 | 00:08:10,213 | - How about drugs? - Objection. Relevance. | - How about drugs? - Objection. Relevance. |
161 | 00:08:10,281 | 00:08:13,216 | - People's 12-- the victim's tox report. | - People's 12-- the victim's tox report. |
162 | 00:08:13,283 | 00:08:16,051 | Alan camden had... | Alan camden had... |
163 | 00:08:16,119 | 00:08:18,420 | Meamphetamine and marijuana in his system | Meamphetamine and marijuana in his system |
164 | 00:08:18,488 | 00:08:19,554 | When he was killed. | When he was killed. |
165 | 00:08:19,622 | 00:08:20,989 | I'm trying to determine if the witness | I'm trying to determine if the witness |
166 | 00:08:21,057 | 00:08:22,557 | Was also under the influence. | Was also under the influence. |
167 | 00:08:22,625 | 00:08:23,591 | - I'll allow it. | - I'll allow it. |
168 | 00:08:23,659 | 00:08:25,659 | - I had one or two hits off a joint. | - I had one or two hits off a joint. |
169 | 00:08:25,727 | 00:08:26,893 | I dot do hard drugs. | I dot do hard drugs. |
170 | 00:08:26,961 | 00:08:28,828 | - When you picked my client out of the lineup, | - When you picked my client out of the lineup, |
171 | 00:08:28,896 | 00:08:31,397 | How much time had passed since the attack? | How much time had passed since the attack? |
172 | 00:08:31,465 | 00:08:33,332 | - Two weeks. | - Two weeks. |
173 | 00:08:33,400 | 00:08:35,300 | - Two weeks after the fact, | - Two weeks after the fact, |
174 | 00:08:35,368 | 00:08:37,836 | You were able to recall a total stranger | You were able to recall a total stranger |
175 | 00:08:37,903 | 00:08:40,738 | Whom you had seen for a matter of seconds | Whom you had seen for a matter of seconds |
176 | 00:08:40,806 | 00:08:44,041 | On a dark night when you were high on pot. | On a dark night when you were high on pot. |
177 | 00:08:44,109 | 00:08:45,075 | - Yes. | - Yes. |
178 | 00:08:45,143 | 00:08:46,676 | I'm sure it was him. | I'm sure it was him. |
179 | 00:08:46,744 | 00:08:50,012 | - I'm sure you believe that. | - I'm sure you believe that. |
180 | 00:08:50,080 | 00:08:52,948 | Nothing further. | Nothing further. |
181 | 00:08:55,117 | 00:08:56,684 | - Cedric's a good boy. | - Cedric's a good boy. |
182 | 00:08:56,752 | 00:08:58,853 | He works driving a truck. | He works driving a truck. |
183 | 00:08:58,921 | 00:09:00,588 | He pays rent, buys groceries. | He pays rent, buys groceries. |
184 | 00:09:00,656 | 00:09:02,857 | - Where was cedric the night of January 12th | - Where was cedric the night of January 12th |
185 | 00:09:02,924 | 00:09:04,058 | Around 10:00? | Around 10:00? |
186 | 00:09:04,125 | 00:09:06,426 | - Home with me on the couch. | - Home with me on the couch. |
187 | 00:09:06,494 | 00:09:08,429 | We were watching tv. | We were watching tv. |
188 | 00:09:08,496 | 00:09:10,063 | - Have you ever known your son | - Have you ever known your son |
189 | 00:09:10,131 | 00:09:12,865 | To make any antihomosexual remarks, mrs. Stuber? | To make any antihomosexual remarks, mrs. Stuber? |
190 | 00:09:12,933 | 00:09:14,400 | - Absolutely not. | - Absolutely not. |
191 | 00:09:14,468 | 00:09:16,702 | He wasn't raised that way. | He wasn't raised that way. |
192 | 00:09:16,770 | 00:09:18,604 | - Nothing further. | - Nothing further. |
193 | 00:09:20,573 | 00:09:21,840 | - At television program | - At television program |
194 | 00:09:21,907 | 00:09:24,208 | Were you watching that night, mrs. Stuber? | Were you watching that night, mrs. Stuber? |
195 | 00:09:24,276 | 00:09:25,642 | - A reality show-- | - A reality show-- |
196 | 00:09:25,710 | 00:09:28,145 | Project designer. | Project designer. |
197 | 00:09:28,212 | 00:09:31,581 | - You and cedric were watching this program together? | - You and cedric were watching this program together? |
198 | 00:09:31,648 | 00:09:33,249 | - That's right. | - That's right. |
199 | 00:09:33,316 | 00:09:35,984 | - Well, let me ask you something, mrs. Stuber. | - Well, let me ask you something, mrs. Stuber. |
200 | 00:09:36,052 | 00:09:39,554 | Do you consider yourself a good role model for your son? | Do you consider yourself a good role model for your son? |
201 | 00:09:39,622 | 00:09:42,223 | - Yes. I do. | - Yes. I do. |
202 | 00:09:42,290 | 00:09:43,924 | - Cedric listens to you. | - Cedric listens to you. |
203 | 00:09:43,992 | 00:09:46,993 | He shares your ethics and your morals? | He shares your ethics and your morals? |
204 | 00:09:47,061 | 00:09:49,862 | - Yes. I taught him well. | - Yes. I taught him well. |
205 | 00:09:49,930 | 00:09:53,599 | - Project designer-- what kind of show is that? | - Project designer-- what kind of show is that? |
206 | 00:09:53,633 | 00:09:56,635 | - It's a contest about fashion design. | - It's a contest about fashion design. |
207 | 00:09:56,702 | 00:10:00,071 | I watch it because I like to make my own dresses | I watch it because I like to make my own dresses |
208 | 00:10:00,138 | 00:10:03,807 | - And a lot of the contestants are gay, aren't they? | - And a lot of the contestants are gay, aren't they? |
209 | 00:10:03,875 | 00:10:05,275 | - I supposso. | - I supposso. |
210 | 00:10:05,343 | 00:10:07,143 | - So your son likes watching | - So your son likes watching |
211 | 00:10:07,211 | 00:10:12,081 | Gay fashion designers onhe couch with his mom. | Gay fashion designers onhe couch with his mom. |
212 | 00:10:12,149 | 00:10:14,750 | Some people might consider that a little girly. | Some people might consider that a little girly. |
213 | 00:10:14,817 | 00:10:17,685 | - He only watches it because I like it. | - He only watches it because I like it. |
214 | 00:10:17,753 | 00:10:19,554 | - Well, have you ever considered the possibility | - Well, have you ever considered the possibility |
215 | 00:10:19,621 | 00:10:20,688 | That he likes it? | That he likes it? |
216 | 00:10:20,756 | 00:10:21,922 | - No. | - No. |
217 | 00:10:21,990 | 00:10:24,124 | - That he enjoys watching gay men? | - That he enjoys watching gay men? |
218 | 00:10:24,192 | 00:10:25,492 | - That's not true. | - That's not true. |
219 | 00:10:25,560 | 00:10:27,928 | - He enjoys watching them and fantasizing about them. | - He enjoys watching them and fantasizing about them. |
220 | 00:10:27,995 | 00:10:30,530 | - He's not one of them. He's not a sissy. | - He's not one of them. He's not a sissy. |
221 | 00:10:30,597 | 00:10:32,431 | My boy's not gay. How dare you? | My boy's not gay. How dare you? |
222 | 00:10:32,499 | 00:10:36,433 | That's disgusting. | That's disgusting. |
223 | 00:10:36,501 | 00:10:39,302 | - Like you said, mrs. Stuber, | - Like you said, mrs. Stuber, |
224 | 00:10:39,370 | 00:10:42,004 | You taught your son well. | You taught your son well. |
225 | 00:10:42,071 | 00:10:44,672 | Nothing further. | Nothing further. |
226 | 00:10:49,779 | 00:10:52,281 | - On the count of murder in the second degree, | - On the count of murder in the second degree, |
227 | 00:10:52,349 | 00:10:53,616 | How do you find? | How do you find? |
228 | 00:10:53,683 | 00:10:55,584 | - We find the defeant guilty. | - We find the defeant guilty. |
229 | 00:10:55,618 | 00:10:57,952 | [scattered applause] | [scattered applause] |
230 | 00:10:58,020 | 00:11:00,588 | - The defendant is remanded for sentencing. | - The defendant is remanded for sentencing. |
231 | 00:11:03,626 | 00:11:06,194 | - Thank you, mr. Cutter, for alan. | - Thank you, mr. Cutter, for alan. |
232 | 00:11:06,262 | 00:11:08,396 | I can'help thinking maybe somehow | I can'help thinking maybe somehow |
233 | 00:11:08,463 | 00:11:10,631 | He's more at peace now. | He's more at peace now. |
234 | 00:11:10,699 | 00:11:13,767 | We both are. | We both are. |
235 | 00:11:16,970 | 00:11:19,038 | - Request for interviews from out magazine, | - Request for interviews from out magazine, |
236 | 00:11:19,106 | 00:11:21,073 | The advocate, and... [chuckles] | The advocate, and... [chuckles] |
237 | 00:11:21,141 | 00:11:22,408 | I've been invited to speak | I've been invited to speak |
238 | 00:11:22,475 | 00:11:24,376 | At the next l.A.G.L.A. Convention. | At the next l.A.G.L.A. Convention. |
239 | 00:11:24,444 | 00:11:26,377 | - Well, I hear they have the best parties. | - Well, I hear they have the best parties. |
240 | 00:11:26,445 | 00:11:28,979 | - Hold up on the self-congratulations. | - Hold up on the self-congratulations. |
241 | 00:11:29,047 | 00:11:31,215 | The hudson university innocence coalition | The hudson university innocence coalition |
242 | 00:11:31,282 | 00:11:34,017 | Is taking on cedric stuber's defense. | Is taking on cedric stuber's defense. |
243 | 00:11:34,085 | 00:11:36,752 | They just filed a motion to set aside the verdict. | They just filed a motion to set aside the verdict. |
244 | 00:11:36,820 | 00:11:38,921 | - What, within hours of stuber's conviction? | - What, within hours of stuber's conviction? |
245 | 00:11:38,989 | 00:11:40,489 | - Apparently, they found new evidence | - Apparently, they found new evidence |
246 | 00:11:40,557 | 00:11:42,591 | They're claiming we overlooked | They're claiming we overlooked |
247 | 00:11:42,658 | 00:11:44,959 | In our overzealous rush to judgment. | In our overzealous rush to judgment. |
248 | 00:11:45,027 | 00:11:49,797 | And guess who signed the motion. | And guess who signed the motion. |
249 | 00:11:49,865 | 00:11:52,066 | - "emily ryan." | - "emily ryan." |
250 | 00:11:52,134 | 00:11:53,834 | - The head of the innocence coalition. | - The head of the innocence coalition. |
251 | 00:11:53,902 | 00:11:56,636 | - My old law professor... [paper rustling] | - My old law professor... [paper rustling] |
252 | 00:11:56,704 | 00:11:58,338 | And mentor. | And mentor. |
253 | 00:11:58,406 | 00:12:01,240 | - I guess she's not done schooling you. | - I guess she's not done schooling you. |
254 | 00:12:05,085 | 00:12:06,352 | - After the verdict, | - After the verdict, |
255 | 00:12:06,419 | 00:12:08,520 | A concerned citizen called mr. Stuber's attorney | A concerned citizen called mr. Stuber's attorney |
256 | 00:12:08,588 | 00:12:10,287 | With new evidence. | With new evidence. |
257 | 00:12:10,355 | 00:12:12,322 | The attorney contacted us to help file an appeal. | The attorney contacted us to help file an appeal. |
258 | 00:12:12,390 | 00:12:14,490 | - D we felt compelled to act immediately. | - D we felt compelled to act immediately. |
259 | 00:12:14,558 | 00:12:17,993 | - Th citizen claimed what exactly? | - Th citizen claimed what exactly? |
260 | 00:12:18,061 | 00:12:20,495 | - Come on, mike, I made you earn every grade. | - Come on, mike, I made you earn every grade. |
261 | 00:12:20,563 | 00:12:22,764 | I won't give you a preview of our case | I won't give you a preview of our case |
262 | 00:12:22,831 | 00:12:24,665 | So you can eviscerate it. | So you can eviscerate it. |
263 | 00:12:24,733 | 00:12:26,433 | - We'll need the name of that witness. | - We'll need the name of that witness. |
264 | 00:12:26,501 | 00:12:28,302 | - Of course. Lisa... | - Of course. Lisa... |
265 | 00:12:28,369 | 00:12:30,270 | - Sylvia corgan. | - Sylvia corgan. |
266 | 00:12:30,339 | 00:12:33,673 | I'll get you her contact information. | I'll get you her contact information. |
267 | 00:12:33,740 | 00:12:36,041 | - Well, thank you for your time, professor ryan. | - Well, thank you for your time, professor ryan. |
268 | 00:12:36,109 | 00:12:38,210 | - Emily, please. | - Emily, please. |
269 | 00:12:38,277 | 00:12:41,346 | And don't take this as a personal attack. | And don't take this as a personal attack. |
270 | 00:12:41,414 | 00:12:44,215 | I know that we're both only interested in justi. | I know that we're both only interested in justi. |
271 | 00:12:49,687 | 00:12:51,784 | - I had information about jon sorrentino, | - I had information about jon sorrentino, |
272 | 00:12:51,852 | 00:12:53,515 | The victim's husband. | The victim's husband. |
273 | 00:12:53,582 | 00:12:55,516 | I thought someone should know. | I thought someone should know. |
274 | 00:12:55,583 | 00:12:58,351 | He has another boyfriend. - Well, how do you know that? | He has another boyfriend. - Well, how do you know that? |
275 | 00:12:58,419 | 00:13:01,353 | - I had a house on the market in the pines, fire island. | - I had a house on the market in the pines, fire island. |
276 | 00:13:01,421 | 00:13:04,188 | My buyer, ted wilson, said before he made a final decision, | My buyer, ted wilson, said before he made a final decision, |
277 | 00:13:04,256 | 00:13:06,991 | He wanted his associate to come by and see the place. | He wanted his associate to come by and see the place. |
278 | 00:13:07,058 | 00:13:09,627 | So a month ago he brings over his so-called associate. | So a month ago he brings over his so-called associate. |
279 | 00:13:09,694 | 00:13:11,194 | It was jon sorrentino. | It was jon sorrentino. |
280 | 00:13:11,262 | 00:13:13,062 | - "so-called"? | - "so-called"? |
281 | 00:13:13,130 | 00:13:15,530 | - They were kissing when ey thought I wasn't looking. | - They were kissing when ey thought I wasn't looking. |
282 | 00:13:15,598 | 00:13:17,899 | I didn't think anying of it at the time. | I didn't think anying of it at the time. |
283 | 00:13:17,967 | 00:13:19,533 | - When did you think something of it? | - When did you think something of it? |
284 | 00:13:19,601 | 00:13:21,401 | - When I saw the paper here with this picture in it, | - When I saw the paper here with this picture in it, |
285 | 00:13:21,469 | 00:13:22,869 | I realized I had seen him before. | I realized I had seen him before. |
286 | 00:13:22,937 | 00:13:24,370 | His husband gets brutally murdered, | His husband gets brutally murdered, |
287 | 00:13:24,438 | 00:13:27,039 | Then two days later, he's kissing another man? | Then two days later, he's kissing another man? |
288 | 00:13:27,106 | 00:13:29,240 | Please. | Please. |
289 | 00:13:29,308 | 00:13:31,142 | - The real estate agent's a busybody. | - The real estate agent's a busybody. |
290 | 00:13:31,210 | 00:13:33,244 | - But you did buy a house with jon sorrentino. | - But you did buy a house with jon sorrentino. |
291 | 00:13:33,312 | 00:13:34,979 | - As a rental property. He's a client. | - As a rental property. He's a client. |
292 | 00:13:35,047 | 00:13:36,580 | I did a design consultation for him | I did a design consultation for him |
293 | 00:13:36,648 | 00:13:38,348 | Onis adirondacks house a year ago-- | Onis adirondacks house a year ago-- |
294 | 00:13:38,416 | 00:13:40,083 | The house he owned with alan. | The house he owned with alan. |
295 | 00:13:40,150 | 00:13:42,050 | - So you and jon aren't involved. | - So you and jon aren't involved. |
296 | 00:13:42,118 | 00:13:43,518 | - [scoffs] on as business partners. | - [scoffs] on as business partners. |
297 | 00:13:43,586 | 00:13:45,087 | - Then why did the real estate agent | - Then why did the real estate agent |
298 | 00:13:45,155 | 00:13:47,757 | Tell us you were kissing him? | Tell us you were kissing him? |
299 | 00:13:47,825 | 00:13:49,491 | - I was consoling a friend | - I was consoling a friend |
300 | 00:13:49,559 | 00:13:51,726 | Who'd suffered an unimaginable loss. | Who'd suffered an unimaginable loss. |
301 | 00:13:51,794 | 00:13:54,328 | Two gay men can be affectionate without it being sexual, | Two gay men can be affectionate without it being sexual, |
302 | 00:13:54,396 | 00:13:55,562 | Just like you two. | Just like you two. |
303 | 00:13:55,630 | 00:13:57,496 | - Don't play cute with us, mr. Wilson. | - Don't play cute with us, mr. Wilson. |
304 | 00:13:57,564 | 00:13:59,431 | Wh the police look into this, | Wh the police look into this, |
305 | 00:13:59,499 | 00:14:00,932 | What else are they gonna find out | What else are they gonna find out |
306 | 00:14:01,000 | 00:14:04,601 | About your relationship with mr. Sorreino? | About your relationship with mr. Sorreino? |
307 | 00:14:04,669 | 00:14:08,604 | - Okay. We weren't together then. | - Okay. We weren't together then. |
308 | 00:14:08,672 | 00:14:10,973 | But things developed. We're a couple now. | But things developed. We're a couple now. |
309 | 00:14:11,040 | 00:14:13,909 | - Then why the charade? - Jon knew how it would look. | - Then why the charade? - Jon knew how it would look. |
310 | 00:14:13,977 | 00:14:17,979 | We thought it was better to keep it quiet. | We thought it was better to keep it quiet. |
311 | 00:14:18,047 | 00:14:19,215 | - Jon sorrentino is listed | - Jon sorrentino is listed |
312 | 00:14:19,282 | 00:14:21,217 | As co-owner of the fire island pines house. | As co-owner of the fire island pines house. |
313 | 00:14:21,285 | 00:14:23,218 | Went into contract three days after the murder. | Went into contract three days after the murder. |
314 | 00:14:23,286 | 00:14:24,619 | - Well, it could be legit. | - Well, it could be legit. |
315 | 00:14:24,687 | 00:14:27,221 | Ted wilsonays they didn't start a relationship | Ted wilsonays they didn't start a relationship |
316 | 00:14:27,289 | 00:14:28,690 | Until after alan died. | Until after alan died. |
317 | 00:14:28,757 | 00:14:30,524 | - Which sorrentino didn't mention. | - Which sorrentino didn't mention. |
318 | 00:14:30,592 | 00:14:32,259 | A one-witness case-- we need to make sure | A one-witness case-- we need to make sure |
319 | 00:14:32,327 | 00:14:34,394 | This witness didn't have his own motive. | This witness didn't have his own motive. |
320 | 00:14:34,462 | 00:14:36,162 | - It doesn't change the fact that sorrentino | - It doesn't change the fact that sorrentino |
321 | 00:14:36,230 | 00:14:38,031 | Picked stuber out of the lineup. | Picked stuber out of the lineup. |
322 | 00:14:38,098 | 00:14:40,532 | - Somebody took a picture of stuber when we arrested him | - Somebody took a picture of stuber when we arrested him |
323 | 00:14:40,600 | 00:14:44,869 | And posted it that day on a gay rights blog. | And posted it that day on a gay rights blog. |
324 | 00:14:44,937 | 00:14:47,038 | Sorrentino could have seen it | Sorrentino could have seen it |
325 | 00:14:47,105 | 00:14:48,639 | Before he came in for the lineup. | Before he came in for the lineup. |
326 | 00:14:48,707 | 00:14:49,873 | - Let's subpoena the blog | - Let's subpoena the blog |
327 | 00:14:49,941 | 00:14:52,675 | And find out if sorrentino visited the website. | And find out if sorrentino visited the website. |
328 | 00:14:52,743 | 00:14:54,043 | - We should also find out | - We should also find out |
329 | 00:14:54,110 | 00:14:56,545 | If he was involved with ted wilson before alan's murder. | If he was involved with ted wilson before alan's murder. |
330 | 00:14:56,613 | 00:14:58,179 | - According to his phone records, | - According to his phone records, |
331 | 00:14:58,247 | 00:15:00,281 | He called ted a few times. | He called ted a few times. |
332 | 00:15:00,348 | 00:15:02,883 | And then there's this... | And then there's this... |
333 | 00:15:02,950 | 00:15:05,384 | A series of calls two months ago | A series of calls two months ago |
334 | 00:15:05,452 | 00:15:07,920 | To holt, levy, and trachtenberg-- | To holt, levy, and trachtenberg-- |
335 | 00:15:07,988 | 00:15:09,988 | Divorce lawyers. | Divorce lawyers. |
336 | 00:15:12,091 | 00:15:14,025 | - Alan and I had a bad week. | - Alan and I had a bad week. |
337 | 00:15:14,092 | 00:15:16,226 | We were fighting. He was using drugs. | We were fighting. He was using drugs. |
338 | 00:15:16,294 | 00:15:18,461 | - So you wanted to get a divorce. | - So you wanted to get a divorce. |
339 | 00:15:18,529 | 00:15:20,730 | - I wanted to know my options. | - I wanted to know my options. |
340 | 00:15:20,797 | 00:15:22,598 | We were married in massachusetts | We were married in massachusetts |
341 | 00:15:22,665 | 00:15:24,032 | Where gay marriage is legal, | Where gay marriage is legal, |
342 | 00:15:24,100 | 00:15:26,301 | But we live in new york where it's not. | But we live in new york where it's not. |
343 | 00:15:26,369 | 00:15:27,903 | So we couldn't get divorced here. | So we couldn't get divorced here. |
344 | 00:15:27,971 | 00:15:30,373 | - So you're stuck in the marriage. | - So you're stuck in the marriage. |
345 | 00:15:30,441 | 00:15:32,141 | - Till death do you part. | - Till death do you part. |
346 | 00:15:32,208 | 00:15:34,343 | - What? | - What? |
347 | 00:15:34,411 | 00:15:37,713 | No. I just didn't want to be married anymore. | No. I just didn't want to be married anymore. |
348 | 00:15:37,781 | 00:15:39,614 | - Was this before or after | - Was this before or after |
349 | 00:15:39,682 | 00:15:43,217 | You got involved with ted wilson? | You got involved with ted wilson? |
350 | 00:15:43,285 | 00:15:45,218 | - [sighs] | - [sighs] |
351 | 00:15:45,286 | 00:15:47,554 | Okay... | Okay... |
352 | 00:15:47,621 | 00:15:50,488 | I should have told you about that. | I should have told you about that. |
353 | 00:15:50,556 | 00:15:52,457 | We were trying to be discreet, | We were trying to be discreet, |
354 | 00:15:52,524 | 00:15:54,591 | Be--because I thought it would look bad. | Be--because I thought it would look bad. |
355 | 00:15:54,659 | 00:15:55,859 | - Guess what. It looks bad. | - Guess what. It looks bad. |
356 | 00:15:55,926 | 00:15:57,427 | You want to get rid of your husband. | You want to get rid of your husband. |
357 | 00:15:57,495 | 00:15:59,128 | A few weeks later, he winds up dead. | A few weeks later, he winds up dead. |
358 | 00:15:59,196 | 00:16:01,229 | - Alan was killed by cedric stuber. | - Alan was killed by cedric stuber. |
359 | 00:16:01,297 | 00:16:03,198 | He was yelling gay epithets. | He was yelling gay epithets. |
360 | 00:16:03,265 | 00:16:05,733 | This was a hate crime! - Okay. | This was a hate crime! - Okay. |
361 | 00:16:05,800 | 00:16:07,901 | Anything else you wanted to be discreet about? | Anything else you wanted to be discreet about? |
362 | 00:16:07,969 | 00:16:09,837 | - Nothing. | - Nothing. |
363 | 00:16:09,904 | 00:16:11,104 | I wanted out of the marriage, | I wanted out of the marriage, |
364 | 00:16:11,172 | 00:16:14,607 | But I did not kill my husband. | But I did not kill my husband. |
365 | 00:16:14,675 | 00:16:16,275 | - Either jon was telling the truth, | - Either jon was telling the truth, |
366 | 00:16:16,343 | 00:16:18,277 | And his husband was gay-bashed to death... | And his husband was gay-bashed to death... |
367 | 00:16:18,345 | 00:16:20,012 | - Or he's lying. - Right. | - Or he's lying. - Right. |
368 | 00:16:20,079 | 00:16:22,013 | He found someone to kill his husband | He found someone to kill his husband |
369 | 00:16:22,081 | 00:16:23,781 | And pass it off as gay bashing. | And pass it off as gay bashing. |
370 | 00:16:23,849 | 00:16:26,784 | - That doesn't explain his I.D.Ing stuber at the lineup. | - That doesn't explain his I.D.Ing stuber at the lineup. |
371 | 00:16:26,852 | 00:16:29,052 | - Or he did see stuber's photo on the blog. | - Or he did see stuber's photo on the blog. |
372 | 00:16:29,120 | 00:16:30,453 | - Not to mention you told him | - Not to mention you told him |
373 | 00:16:30,521 | 00:16:33,456 | He wouldn't be wasting his time with the lineup. | He wouldn't be wasting his time with the lineup. |
374 | 00:16:33,524 | 00:16:34,957 | - I doubt that had any influence. | - I doubt that had any influence. |
375 | 00:16:35,025 | 00:16:37,792 | - You hope it didn't. That was a dumb thing to say. | - You hope it didn't. That was a dumb thing to say. |
376 | 00:16:37,860 | 00:16:40,061 | And emily ryan's gonna jump all over it. | And emily ryan's gonna jump all over it. |
377 | 00:16:40,128 | 00:16:42,495 | Make sure you prosecuted the right man. | Make sure you prosecuted the right man. |
378 | 00:16:42,563 | 00:16:45,230 | - Okay. Is there any evidence | - Okay. Is there any evidence |
379 | 00:16:45,297 | 00:16:47,198 | Sorrentino visited the blog before the lineup? | Sorrentino visited the blog before the lineup? |
380 | 00:16:47,266 | 00:16:49,067 | - Well, there's a hit from an I.P. Address | - Well, there's a hit from an I.P. Address |
381 | 00:16:49,137 | 00:16:51,876 | That we traced back to a hedge fund where he works. | That we traced back to a hedge fund where he works. |
382 | 00:16:51,944 | 00:16:53,145 | - That doesn't mean anything. | - That doesn't mean anything. |
383 | 00:16:53,213 | 00:16:54,513 | There's 30 people in that office. | There's 30 people in that office. |
384 | 00:16:54,581 | 00:16:55,948 | - Mike, the innocence coalition's | - Mike, the innocence coalition's |
385 | 00:16:56,016 | 00:16:57,416 | Gonna make it mean something. | Gonna make it mean something. |
386 | 00:17:02,121 | 00:17:04,623 | - Mr. Sorrentino's credibility is undermined | - Mr. Sorrentino's credibility is undermined |
387 | 00:17:04,690 | 00:17:06,891 | By his silence about his marital troubles. | By his silence about his marital troubles. |
388 | 00:17:06,959 | 00:17:09,727 | And his I.D. Of mr. Stuber was tainted | And his I.D. Of mr. Stuber was tainted |
389 | 00:17:09,795 | 00:17:11,329 | When mr. Cutter stated | When mr. Cutter stated |
390 | 00:17:11,397 | 00:17:14,365 | That he "wouldn't be wasting his time" | That he "wouldn't be wasting his time" |
391 | 00:17:14,433 | 00:17:16,100 | Viewing this lineup. | Viewing this lineup. |
392 | 00:17:16,168 | 00:17:18,603 | - I, in no way, indicated which person he should identify. | - I, in no way, indicated which person he should identify. |
393 | 00:17:18,670 | 00:17:22,240 | - If his witness saw a photo of my client on a blog, | - If his witness saw a photo of my client on a blog, |
394 | 00:17:22,308 | 00:17:25,176 | Well, he would already know who to I.D. | Well, he would already know who to I.D. |
395 | 00:17:25,244 | 00:17:26,878 | - The only hard evidence professor ryan has presented | - The only hard evidence professor ryan has presented |
396 | 00:17:26,946 | 00:17:29,414 | Is that jon sorrentino's marriage was in trouble. | Is that jon sorrentino's marriage was in trouble. |
397 | 00:17:29,482 | 00:17:32,450 | It doesn't prove he made a false identification, | It doesn't prove he made a false identification, |
398 | 00:17:32,518 | 00:17:35,220 | Nor does it exculpate mr. Stuber. | Nor does it exculpate mr. Stuber. |
399 | 00:17:35,287 | 00:17:37,689 | - That is true, ms. Ryan. - We have an additional witness | - That is true, ms. Ryan. - We have an additional witness |
400 | 00:17:37,757 | 00:17:41,693 | That is prepared to give testimony. | That is prepared to give testimony. |
401 | 00:17:41,761 | 00:17:43,962 | - Uh, my name is rodrigo diaz. | - Uh, my name is rodrigo diaz. |
402 | 00:17:44,030 | 00:17:46,297 | I know jon sorrentino pretty well. | I know jon sorrentino pretty well. |
403 | 00:17:46,365 | 00:17:48,599 | I knew his boyfriend alan too. | I knew his boyfriend alan too. |
404 | 00:17:48,667 | 00:17:50,934 | - How is that, mr. Diaz? | - How is that, mr. Diaz? |
405 | 00:17:51,002 | 00:17:53,503 | - I'm their drug dealer... | - I'm their drug dealer... |
406 | 00:17:53,570 | 00:17:55,138 | Or I-I used to be. | Or I-I used to be. |
407 | 00:17:55,206 | 00:17:58,372 | - When was the last time that you saw mr. Sorrentino? | - When was the last time that you saw mr. Sorrentino? |
408 | 00:17:58,439 | 00:18:00,539 | - He asked to meet me two months ago, | - He asked to meet me two months ago, |
409 | 00:18:00,607 | 00:18:02,305 | Said he was tired of being married, | Said he was tired of being married, |
410 | 00:18:02,372 | 00:18:03,905 | But he couldn't get a divorce. | But he couldn't get a divorce. |
411 | 00:18:03,973 | 00:18:06,306 | So he asked me if I knew anybody, uh, | So he asked me if I knew anybody, uh, |
412 | 00:18:06,373 | 00:18:08,406 | That can get rid of his problem, | That can get rid of his problem, |
413 | 00:18:08,474 | 00:18:09,973 | You know, like a hit man. | You know, like a hit man. |
414 | 00:18:10,041 | 00:18:11,807 | - Did he say why he was asking you? | - Did he say why he was asking you? |
415 | 00:18:11,875 | 00:18:14,909 | - Said he wanted his husband alan dead. | - Said he wanted his husband alan dead. |
416 | 00:18:14,977 | 00:18:17,744 | [laughs] I told him he was crazy. | [laughs] I told him he was crazy. |
417 | 00:18:17,812 | 00:18:20,447 | - Thank you. | - Thank you. |
418 | 00:18:22,149 | 00:18:24,484 | - Mr. Diaz, if you knew jon sorrentino | - Mr. Diaz, if you knew jon sorrentino |
419 | 00:18:24,552 | 00:18:26,353 | Was soliciting a hit man, | Was soliciting a hit man, |
420 | 00:18:26,420 | 00:18:29,222 | Why didn't you go to the police after his husband was killed? | Why didn't you go to the police after his husband was killed? |
421 | 00:18:29,289 | 00:18:32,356 | - I tried. I called the precinct on 18th street. | - I tried. I called the precinct on 18th street. |
422 | 00:18:32,424 | 00:18:34,324 | - You tried? - Yeah. | - You tried? - Yeah. |
423 | 00:18:34,392 | 00:18:35,826 | And they put me on hold, | And they put me on hold, |
424 | 00:18:35,893 | 00:18:38,094 | So I got frustrated, and I hung up. | So I got frustrated, and I hung up. |
425 | 00:18:38,162 | 00:18:39,862 | - So why come forward now? | - So why come forward now? |
426 | 00:18:39,930 | 00:18:42,031 | - Because it's the right thing to do. | - Because it's the right thing to do. |
427 | 00:18:42,098 | 00:18:45,033 | - Oh, and it wasn't the right thing to do a month ago, | - Oh, and it wasn't the right thing to do a month ago, |
428 | 00:18:45,101 | 00:18:47,235 | When mr. Stuber was on trial for murder? | When mr. Stuber was on trial for murder? |
429 | 00:18:47,303 | 00:18:49,037 | I didn't know about no trial. | I didn't know about no trial. |
430 | 00:18:49,105 | 00:18:51,773 | Now, this student from the innocence clinic, | Now, this student from the innocence clinic, |
431 | 00:18:51,840 | 00:18:54,208 | Lisa kline, she found me, | Lisa kline, she found me, |
432 | 00:18:54,276 | 00:18:56,643 | And she heard I was jon and alan's dealer, | And she heard I was jon and alan's dealer, |
433 | 00:18:56,711 | 00:18:59,412 | And she asked if I knew about any problems between them. | And she asked if I knew about any problems between them. |
434 | 00:18:59,480 | 00:19:00,880 | I said maybe I did. | I said maybe I did. |
435 | 00:19:00,948 | 00:19:03,750 | And she convinced me to tell my story. | And she convinced me to tell my story. |
436 | 00:19:03,817 | 00:19:05,150 | - As far as you know, | - As far as you know, |
437 | 00:19:05,218 | 00:19:08,987 | Did mr. Sorrentino hire a hit man? | Did mr. Sorrentino hire a hit man? |
438 | 00:19:09,055 | 00:19:11,155 | - No. | - No. |
439 | 00:19:11,223 | 00:19:13,290 | Nah, I don't know that. | Nah, I don't know that. |
440 | 00:19:13,358 | 00:19:15,425 | Eir witnes is a drug dealer | Eir witnes is a drug dealer |
441 | 00:19:15,493 | 00:19:17,160 | Whose claims can't be verified. | Whose claims can't be verified. |
442 | 00:19:17,228 | 00:19:20,496 | I ask that the court respect the jury's decision. | I ask that the court respect the jury's decision. |
443 | 00:19:20,564 | 00:19:23,832 | - The jury made their decision with only half the facts. | - The jury made their decision with only half the facts. |
444 | 00:19:23,900 | 00:19:26,401 | And mr. Stuber was denied the opportunity | And mr. Stuber was denied the opportunity |
445 | 00:19:26,469 | 00:19:28,403 | To present an alternative theory of the crime. | To present an alternative theory of the crime. |
446 | 00:19:28,471 | 00:19:30,004 | - I agree. | - I agree. |
447 | 00:19:30,072 | 00:19:31,339 | In light of this new witness | In light of this new witness |
448 | 00:19:31,406 | 00:19:33,140 | And mr. Cutter's apparent attempt | And mr. Cutter's apparent attempt |
449 | 00:19:33,208 | 00:19:35,309 | To influence the lineup identification, | To influence the lineup identification, |
450 | 00:19:35,376 | 00:19:37,844 | I'm granting defense counsel's motion. | I'm granting defense counsel's motion. |
451 | 00:19:37,912 | 00:19:41,313 | Guilty verdict is set aside. I'm ordering a new trial. | Guilty verdict is set aside. I'm ordering a new trial. |
452 | 00:19:44,050 | 00:19:46,518 | - I don't know whether to be outraged or humiliated... | - I don't know whether to be outraged or humiliated... |
453 | 00:19:46,586 | 00:19:48,920 | Or both. | Or both. |
454 | 00:19:48,988 | 00:19:51,823 | - Oh, nothing personal, mike. | - Oh, nothing personal, mike. |
455 | 00:19:51,891 | 00:19:56,526 | Now let's see if you really did learn something from me. | Now let's see if you really did learn something from me. |
456 | 00:19:56,594 | 00:19:57,861 | - Nothing personal? | - Nothing personal? |
457 | 00:19:57,929 | 00:20:00,597 | That was personal. | That was personal. |
458 | 00:20:04,839 | 00:20:07,240 | - This surprise witness, this dope dealer, | - This surprise witness, this dope dealer, |
459 | 00:20:07,707 | 00:20:09,007 | Really hurt us. | Really hurt us. |
460 | 00:20:09,075 | 00:20:10,841 | - If he's lying, we need to prove it. | - If he's lying, we need to prove it. |
461 | 00:20:10,909 | 00:20:12,709 | - Is this about salvaging your case | - Is this about salvaging your case |
462 | 00:20:12,777 | 00:20:15,711 | Or finding out if sorrentino really had his husband killed? | Or finding out if sorrentino really had his husband killed? |
463 | 00:20:15,779 | 00:20:17,479 | - I don't give a damn about anything | - I don't give a damn about anything |
464 | 00:20:17,547 | 00:20:19,781 | Expect putting the right people in jail. | Expect putting the right people in jail. |
465 | 00:20:19,849 | 00:20:23,383 | - Good. I'll get my guys back on it. | - Good. I'll get my guys back on it. |
466 | 00:20:23,451 | 00:20:26,953 | - Bad enough being second-guessed by emily ryan... | - Bad enough being second-guessed by emily ryan... |
467 | 00:20:27,021 | 00:20:29,455 | Hell of a lot worse if she's right. | Hell of a lot worse if she's right. |
468 | 00:20:29,523 | 00:20:31,657 | - Seemed like a straight-up gay bashing, | - Seemed like a straight-up gay bashing, |
469 | 00:20:31,724 | 00:20:33,460 | And now... | And now... |
470 | 00:20:33,528 | 00:20:36,730 | I don't know. | I don't know. |
471 | 00:20:36,797 | 00:20:39,799 | - Forget that emily ryan was your mentor, mike. | - Forget that emily ryan was your mentor, mike. |
472 | 00:20:39,866 | 00:20:41,867 | She's just another defense lawyer. | She's just another defense lawyer. |
473 | 00:20:41,935 | 00:20:45,670 | - A defense lawyer who just won a retrial for a killer. | - A defense lawyer who just won a retrial for a killer. |
474 | 00:20:45,737 | 00:20:49,041 | - That too. | - That too. |
475 | 00:20:49,109 | 00:20:50,642 | - You're telling me this murderer | - You're telling me this murderer |
476 | 00:20:50,710 | 00:20:52,210 | Might walk away scot-free? | Might walk away scot-free? |
477 | 00:20:52,278 | 00:20:54,212 | - L-let's take it a step at a time. | - L-let's take it a step at a time. |
478 | 00:20:54,280 | 00:20:56,181 | Was rodrigo diaz your drug dealer? | Was rodrigo diaz your drug dealer? |
479 | 00:20:56,248 | 00:20:57,881 | - He used to be. | - He used to be. |
480 | 00:20:57,949 | 00:20:59,483 | - Did you ever have a conversation with him | - Did you ever have a conversation with him |
481 | 00:20:59,550 | 00:21:00,751 | About your marital problems? | About your marital problems? |
482 | 00:21:00,818 | 00:21:02,752 | - Well, I-I definitely told him | - Well, I-I definitely told him |
483 | 00:21:02,820 | 00:21:04,387 | Alan and I weren't getting along. | Alan and I weren't getting along. |
484 | 00:21:04,454 | 00:21:06,689 | - Meaning "could you get rid of him for me?" | - Meaning "could you get rid of him for me?" |
485 | 00:21:06,757 | 00:21:07,757 | - Oh, my god. | - Oh, my god. |
486 | 00:21:07,824 | 00:21:09,658 | You think I hired him to kill alan? | You think I hired him to kill alan? |
487 | 00:21:09,726 | 00:21:11,560 | - Rodrigo swore under oath | - Rodrigo swore under oath |
488 | 00:21:11,628 | 00:21:13,929 | That you asked for an introduction to a hit man. | That you asked for an introduction to a hit man. |
489 | 00:21:13,996 | 00:21:16,264 | - That's a lie. | - That's a lie. |
490 | 00:21:16,332 | 00:21:18,699 | Do I need a lawyer? | Do I need a lawyer? |
491 | 00:21:18,767 | 00:21:21,668 | - If I had something to hide, I'd make a phone call. | - If I had something to hide, I'd make a phone call. |
492 | 00:21:24,072 | 00:21:25,873 | - What else do you want to know? | - What else do you want to know? |
493 | 00:21:25,941 | 00:21:27,941 | - Why would rodrigo say that? | - Why would rodrigo say that? |
494 | 00:21:28,009 | 00:21:30,177 | He have any kind of grudge against you? | He have any kind of grudge against you? |
495 | 00:21:30,244 | 00:21:33,280 | - Alan had a really bad meth habit. | - Alan had a really bad meth habit. |
496 | 00:21:33,348 | 00:21:34,615 | It was one of the reasons | It was one of the reasons |
497 | 00:21:34,682 | 00:21:36,116 | Things weren't working out between us. | Things weren't working out between us. |
498 | 00:21:36,184 | 00:21:38,118 | It got to the point where I told rodrigo | It got to the point where I told rodrigo |
499 | 00:21:38,186 | 00:21:41,121 | If he kept dealing to alan, I was going to the police. | If he kept dealing to alan, I was going to the police. |
500 | 00:21:41,189 | 00:21:43,290 | - No doubt that would piss him off. | - No doubt that would piss him off. |
501 | 00:21:43,357 | 00:21:46,726 | - So why isn't he down here answering these questions? | - So why isn't he down here answering these questions? |
502 | 00:21:49,096 | 00:21:51,729 | - You can help us out with that. | - You can help us out with that. |
503 | 00:22:02,837 | 00:22:06,139 | - Winston? - Yeah. | - Winston? - Yeah. |
504 | 00:22:06,207 | 00:22:08,973 | It's cold out there, huh? | It's cold out there, huh? |
505 | 00:22:09,041 | 00:22:11,142 | - You a cop, man? | - You a cop, man? |
506 | 00:22:11,210 | 00:22:13,077 | - Are you? | - Are you? |
507 | 00:22:13,145 | 00:22:14,545 | - You look straight. | - You look straight. |
508 | 00:22:14,613 | 00:22:17,414 | I didn't know these chelsea boys had any straight friends. | I didn't know these chelsea boys had any straight friends. |
509 | 00:22:17,482 | 00:22:20,216 | - What can I tell you? They said you can get molly. | - What can I tell you? They said you can get molly. |
510 | 00:22:20,283 | 00:22:23,752 | Can you do 20 or not? - That's $25 apiece. | Can you do 20 or not? - That's $25 apiece. |
511 | 00:22:23,819 | 00:22:26,187 | If you went to school on the short bus, that's $500. | If you went to school on the short bus, that's $500. |
512 | 00:22:26,254 | 00:22:30,090 | I need $250 up front. | I need $250 up front. |
513 | 00:22:30,191 | 00:22:33,826 | There's a $50 service charge too, bro. | There's a $50 service charge too, bro. |
514 | 00:22:33,894 | 00:22:35,827 | - Hey. | - Hey. |
515 | 00:22:35,895 | 00:22:37,329 | Let's take a walk. | Let's take a walk. |
516 | 00:22:37,397 | 00:22:38,997 | - Aw! | - Aw! |
517 | 00:22:39,065 | 00:22:42,133 | You think I'm stupid enough to carry my own stash, man? | You think I'm stupid enough to carry my own stash, man? |
518 | 00:22:42,201 | 00:22:44,768 | - You were stupid enough to lie on the witness stand. | - You were stupid enough to lie on the witness stand. |
519 | 00:22:44,836 | 00:22:46,770 | - Is that what this is about? | - Is that what this is about? |
520 | 00:22:46,837 | 00:22:50,105 | Everything I said in court is the god's honest truth, man. | Everything I said in court is the god's honest truth, man. |
521 | 00:22:50,172 | 00:22:51,405 | - Except you forgot to mention | - Except you forgot to mention |
522 | 00:22:51,472 | 00:22:53,440 | That jon said he was gonna dime you out | That jon said he was gonna dime you out |
523 | 00:22:53,508 | 00:22:55,276 | If you didn't stop dealing to his partner. | If you didn't stop dealing to his partner. |
524 | 00:22:55,344 | 00:22:57,179 | - Nobody asked me about that, man. | - Nobody asked me about that, man. |
525 | 00:22:57,247 | 00:22:59,580 | - Tequila chito's in brooklyn. | - Tequila chito's in brooklyn. |
526 | 00:22:59,648 | 00:23:01,148 | Lisa at the innocence coalition. | Lisa at the innocence coalition. |
527 | 00:23:01,216 | 00:23:03,417 | So you were with her at this tequila bar. | So you were with her at this tequila bar. |
528 | 00:23:03,485 | 00:23:04,918 | - So? | - So? |
529 | 00:23:04,986 | 00:23:06,920 | - Is that how they convinced you to testify? | - Is that how they convinced you to testify? |
530 | 00:23:06,988 | 00:23:09,956 | They bought you a couple shots of patron anejo? | They bought you a couple shots of patron anejo? |
531 | 00:23:10,024 | 00:23:12,159 | - Got nothing else to say, man. | - Got nothing else to say, man. |
532 | 00:23:12,227 | 00:23:14,361 | - All right, then get in. | - All right, then get in. |
533 | 00:23:16,865 | 00:23:19,700 | - Yeah, that's rodrigo. - He a regular here? | - Yeah, that's rodrigo. - He a regular here? |
534 | 00:23:19,767 | 00:23:21,735 | - He comes by when he's flush. | - He comes by when he's flush. |
535 | 00:23:21,803 | 00:23:24,504 | - He ever come by with a woman, brown hair, early 20s? | - He ever come by with a woman, brown hair, early 20s? |
536 | 00:23:24,572 | 00:23:25,772 | - Yeah, a few weeks ago. | - Yeah, a few weeks ago. |
537 | 00:23:25,840 | 00:23:27,106 | They had a pitcher of margaritas. | They had a pitcher of margaritas. |
538 | 00:23:27,174 | 00:23:28,274 | - This is a busy place. | - This is a busy place. |
539 | 00:23:28,342 | 00:23:30,443 | How come you remember what they ordered? | How come you remember what they ordered? |
540 | 00:23:30,510 | 00:23:32,211 | - About 20 minutes after they were here, | - About 20 minutes after they were here, |
541 | 00:23:32,278 | 00:23:33,511 | They got in an argument. | They got in an argument. |
542 | 00:23:33,579 | 00:23:34,946 | Rodrigo started to walk out, | Rodrigo started to walk out, |
543 | 00:23:35,014 | 00:23:36,581 | And she came up to me with a credit card, | And she came up to me with a credit card, |
544 | 00:23:36,649 | 00:23:38,082 | Asked for $100 cash back. | Asked for $100 cash back. |
545 | 00:23:38,150 | 00:23:39,783 | - What'd she do with the money? | - What'd she do with the money? |
546 | 00:23:39,851 | 00:23:41,218 | - She gave it to him. | - She gave it to him. |
547 | 00:23:41,286 | 00:23:43,153 | Then they sat down and talked some more. | Then they sat down and talked some more. |
548 | 00:23:43,221 | 00:23:45,121 | - Did they leave together? - No. | - Did they leave together? - No. |
549 | 00:23:45,189 | 00:23:46,422 | About an hour later, | About an hour later, |
550 | 00:23:46,490 | 00:23:48,524 | She asked me for the number of a car service. | She asked me for the number of a car service. |
551 | 00:23:48,592 | 00:23:52,527 | Rodrigo came out here by himself to wait for it. | Rodrigo came out here by himself to wait for it. |
552 | 00:23:52,595 | 00:23:54,528 | - We ran down the car service, and the driver told us | - We ran down the car service, and the driver told us |
553 | 00:23:54,596 | 00:23:56,395 | That rodrigo paid him 20 bucks | That rodrigo paid him 20 bucks |
554 | 00:23:56,463 | 00:23:58,997 | To drive him to an address in prospect heights-- | To drive him to an address in prospect heights-- |
555 | 00:23:59,065 | 00:24:00,865 | A known drug location. | A known drug location. |
556 | 00:24:00,933 | 00:24:03,802 | - So professor ryan's student greased the wheels of justice | - So professor ryan's student greased the wheels of justice |
557 | 00:24:03,869 | 00:24:05,570 | With some drug money. | With some drug money. |
558 | 00:24:05,638 | 00:24:09,140 | - Are you suggesting they bought his testimony for 80 bucks? | - Are you suggesting they bought his testimony for 80 bucks? |
559 | 00:24:09,208 | 00:24:11,410 | - And a pitcher of margaritas. - You throw in retaliation | - And a pitcher of margaritas. - You throw in retaliation |
560 | 00:24:11,477 | 00:24:13,211 | For jon's threat to call the cops on him-- | For jon's threat to call the cops on him-- |
561 | 00:24:13,279 | 00:24:16,447 | I'd rate rodrigo's credibility at zero. | I'd rate rodrigo's credibility at zero. |
562 | 00:24:18,884 | 00:24:20,451 | - Rodrigo was reluctant to get involved. | - Rodrigo was reluctant to get involved. |
563 | 00:24:20,519 | 00:24:22,353 | He wouldn't come into the clinic. | He wouldn't come into the clinic. |
564 | 00:24:22,421 | 00:24:24,321 | - So you invited him to a bar? | - So you invited him to a bar? |
565 | 00:24:24,389 | 00:24:26,089 | - I've been at the clinic two semesters. | - I've been at the clinic two semesters. |
566 | 00:24:26,157 | 00:24:27,857 | I've had to meet witnesses in prisons, | I've had to meet witnesses in prisons, |
567 | 00:24:27,925 | 00:24:30,459 | In tenement hallways where junkies are shooting dope. | In tenement hallways where junkies are shooting dope. |
568 | 00:24:30,527 | 00:24:32,127 | - D you ply them all with cocktails? | - D you ply them all with cocktails? |
569 | 00:24:32,195 | 00:24:34,396 | - Rodrigo ordered the drinks. | - Rodrigo ordered the drinks. |
570 | 00:24:34,463 | 00:24:36,531 | - And throw them a little drug money on the side? | - And throw them a little drug money on the side? |
571 | 00:24:36,599 | 00:24:38,533 | - It was carfare. | - It was carfare. |
572 | 00:24:38,600 | 00:24:39,967 | Professor ryan always said | Professor ryan always said |
573 | 00:24:40,035 | 00:24:41,902 | You were on thball, mr. Cutter. | You were on thball, mr. Cutter. |
574 | 00:24:41,970 | 00:24:43,237 | Frankly, I'm a bit disappointed | Frankly, I'm a bit disappointed |
575 | 00:24:43,304 | 00:24:46,206 | You'd mistake cab money for a bribe. | You'd mistake cab money for a bribe. |
576 | 00:24:46,274 | 00:24:47,473 | - Did rodrigo ever mention | - Did rodrigo ever mention |
577 | 00:24:47,541 | 00:24:48,808 | He was pissed off at jon sorrentino | He was pissed off at jon sorrentino |
578 | 00:24:48,875 | 00:24:51,076 | For threatening to turn him over to the police? | For threatening to turn him over to the police? |
579 | 00:24:51,144 | 00:24:53,078 | - I don't have to download my interview for you. | - I don't have to download my interview for you. |
580 | 00:24:53,145 | 00:24:55,213 | - No, but now you have all the facts. | - No, but now you have all the facts. |
581 | 00:24:55,281 | 00:24:57,815 | You must have doubts about his credibility. | You must have doubts about his credibility. |
582 | 00:24:57,883 | 00:25:00,650 | - Jon sorrentino is the one who lied here. | - Jon sorrentino is the one who lied here. |
583 | 00:25:00,718 | 00:25:02,419 | He hired somebody to kill his partner | He hired somebody to kill his partner |
584 | 00:25:02,486 | 00:25:04,420 | And make it look like a gay bashing. | And make it look like a gay bashing. |
585 | 00:25:04,488 | 00:25:05,621 | You're grasping at straws | You're grasping at straws |
586 | 00:25:05,689 | 00:25:07,556 | Instead of admitting you were wrong. | Instead of admitting you were wrong. |
587 | 00:25:07,624 | 00:25:10,225 | - I think the grasping's just begun. | - I think the grasping's just begun. |
588 | 00:25:10,293 | 00:25:12,160 | Thank you. | Thank you. |
589 | 00:25:13,696 | 00:25:16,130 | - What the hell's going on now? | - What the hell's going on now? |
590 | 00:25:16,198 | 00:25:17,898 | I got a call from emily ryan. | I got a call from emily ryan. |
591 | 00:25:17,966 | 00:25:20,434 | You subpoenaed her students' academic records? | You subpoenaed her students' academic records? |
592 | 00:25:20,501 | 00:25:22,435 | - One of her students paid off a witness-- | - One of her students paid off a witness-- |
593 | 00:25:22,502 | 00:25:24,202 | The witness who blew up our case. | The witness who blew up our case. |
594 | 00:25:24,270 | 00:25:26,071 | - Your subpoena covered every student | - Your subpoena covered every student |
595 | 00:25:26,138 | 00:25:28,572 | Who's worked at her clinic for the past ten years-- | Who's worked at her clinic for the past ten years-- |
596 | 00:25:28,640 | 00:25:29,973 | Their grades, their written assignments, | Their grades, their written assignments, |
597 | 00:25:30,041 | 00:25:32,108 | Their email messages. - We're entitled to know | Their email messages. - We're entitled to know |
598 | 00:25:32,176 | 00:25:34,009 | If there's a pattern to these improprieties. | If there's a pattern to these improprieties. |
599 | 00:25:34,077 | 00:25:36,044 | - Leverage is one thing. | - Leverage is one thing. |
600 | 00:25:36,111 | 00:25:39,445 | You've declared war on the hudson innocence coalition? | You've declared war on the hudson innocence coalition? |
601 | 00:25:39,513 | 00:25:41,447 | - Why protect people who make it their mission | - Why protect people who make it their mission |
602 | 00:25:41,515 | 00:25:43,249 | To undermine our work? | To undermine our work? |
603 | 00:25:43,316 | 00:25:44,683 | - I'm not arrogant enough | - I'm not arrogant enough |
604 | 00:25:44,751 | 00:25:46,685 | To believe we never make mistakes. | To believe we never make mistakes. |
605 | 00:25:46,753 | 00:25:48,487 | - My doubts disappeared when I found out | - My doubts disappeared when I found out |
606 | 00:25:48,555 | 00:25:50,156 | Their witness was enticed to come forward | Their witness was enticed to come forward |
607 | 00:25:50,224 | 00:25:51,692 | With cash and tequila. | With cash and tequila. |
608 | 00:25:51,759 | 00:25:54,628 | It's easy to wax philosophical about emily ryan, | It's easy to wax philosophical about emily ryan, |
609 | 00:25:54,696 | 00:25:56,630 | But the egg's on my face, jack. | But the egg's on my face, jack. |
610 | 00:25:56,698 | 00:25:59,200 | Don't ask me to withdraw that subpoena. | Don't ask me to withdraw that subpoena. |
611 | 00:25:59,267 | 00:26:00,701 | - Here you go. | - Here you go. |
612 | 00:26:03,772 | 00:26:06,808 | If she's intent on making diaz her star witness, | If she's intent on making diaz her star witness, |
613 | 00:26:06,876 | 00:26:09,175 | We'll find every customer he's ever ripped off | We'll find every customer he's ever ripped off |
614 | 00:26:09,243 | 00:26:10,408 | To impeach him. | To impeach him. |
615 | 00:26:10,476 | 00:26:12,376 | - Mm, that's easier said than done, mike. | - Mm, that's easier said than done, mike. |
616 | 00:26:12,443 | 00:26:15,277 | - Working on a subpoena to doctors without borders? | - Working on a subpoena to doctors without borders? |
617 | 00:26:15,345 | 00:26:17,547 | - Oh, what can we do for you, professor ryan? | - Oh, what can we do for you, professor ryan? |
618 | 00:26:17,615 | 00:26:19,382 | - I just talked to jack mccoy, | - I just talked to jack mccoy, |
619 | 00:26:19,450 | 00:26:21,651 | And he says that he's standing behind your crusade | And he says that he's standing behind your crusade |
620 | 00:26:21,719 | 00:26:23,351 | Against my students. | Against my students. |
621 | 00:26:23,419 | 00:26:24,784 | - So when can we expect the records? | - So when can we expect the records? |
622 | 00:26:24,852 | 00:26:26,285 | - Oh, you still have a few more hoops | - Oh, you still have a few more hoops |
623 | 00:26:26,353 | 00:26:27,619 | You're gonna have to jump through. | You're gonna have to jump through. |
624 | 00:26:27,687 | 00:26:29,021 | - Well, we're fully prepared | - Well, we're fully prepared |
625 | 00:26:29,088 | 00:26:32,256 | For your motion to quash our subpoena. | For your motion to quash our subpoena. |
626 | 00:26:32,324 | 00:26:35,625 | - Didn't I teach you about blowback, mike? | - Didn't I teach you about blowback, mike? |
627 | 00:26:35,693 | 00:26:39,495 | Sometimes you open up a door that you think is safe, | Sometimes you open up a door that you think is safe, |
628 | 00:26:39,563 | 00:26:43,298 | And an inferno comes roaring out. | And an inferno comes roaring out. |
629 | 00:26:47,035 | 00:26:50,204 | Just remember, this was your call. | Just remember, this was your call. |
630 | 00:26:55,877 | 00:26:59,379 | - Am I just hearing things, or did she just threaten you? | - Am I just hearing things, or did she just threaten you? |
631 | 00:26:59,446 | 00:27:02,481 | - Ah, it's just standard defense-lawyer shtick. | - Ah, it's just standard defense-lawyer shtick. |
632 | 00:27:02,549 | 00:27:05,183 | Don't worry about it. | Don't worry about it. |
633 | 00:27:08,899 | 00:27:10,433 | - The privacy of these academic records | - The privacy of these academic records |
634 | 00:27:10,501 | 00:27:11,834 | Is protected by federal law. | Is protected by federal law. |
635 | 00:27:11,902 | 00:27:13,836 | Mr. Cutter's subpoena is an insult to hudson university | Mr. Cutter's subpoena is an insult to hudson university |
636 | 00:27:13,904 | 00:27:15,137 | And its students. | And its students. |
637 | 00:27:15,205 | 00:27:17,005 | - Well, these students forfeited their right to privacy | - Well, these students forfeited their right to privacy |
638 | 00:27:17,073 | 00:27:19,140 | When they chose to intervene in a criminal case. | When they chose to intervene in a criminal case. |
639 | 00:27:19,208 | 00:27:21,575 | - My clinic has freed 22 innocent men | - My clinic has freed 22 innocent men |
640 | 00:27:21,643 | 00:27:23,077 | Who were doing life without parole. | Who were doing life without parole. |
641 | 00:27:23,144 | 00:27:24,278 | How am I gonna get students | How am I gonna get students |
642 | 00:27:24,345 | 00:27:25,779 | To volunteer for this kind of work | To volunteer for this kind of work |
643 | 00:27:25,847 | 00:27:28,115 | If they think the government is reading their emails, | If they think the government is reading their emails, |
644 | 00:27:28,183 | 00:27:29,616 | Scrutinizing their academic record? | Scrutinizing their academic record? |
645 | 00:27:29,684 | 00:27:32,118 | - The d.A.'s office has no interest in these records | - The d.A.'s office has no interest in these records |
646 | 00:27:32,186 | 00:27:34,653 | Other than to determine if ms. Ryan's students | Other than to determine if ms. Ryan's students |
647 | 00:27:34,721 | 00:27:37,922 | Were incentivized to manufacture new evidence. | Were incentivized to manufacture new evidence. |
648 | 00:27:37,990 | 00:27:39,857 | Now, we've already established | Now, we've already established |
649 | 00:27:39,924 | 00:27:42,158 | That a student corrupted a witness. | That a student corrupted a witness. |
650 | 00:27:42,226 | 00:27:44,295 | - The student paid for carfare, bought a couple of drinks. | - The student paid for carfare, bought a couple of drinks. |
651 | 00:27:44,362 | 00:27:46,163 | - Drug money and booze. | - Drug money and booze. |
652 | 00:27:46,231 | 00:27:48,398 | This may be the tip of the iceberg, your honor. | This may be the tip of the iceberg, your honor. |
653 | 00:27:48,466 | 00:27:51,067 | - The prosecution has made a clear showing of impropriety, | - The prosecution has made a clear showing of impropriety, |
654 | 00:27:51,135 | 00:27:52,502 | Professor ryan. | Professor ryan. |
655 | 00:27:52,570 | 00:27:54,170 | I want to know what else is going on | I want to know what else is going on |
656 | 00:27:54,238 | 00:27:55,537 | Over there at your clinic. | Over there at your clinic. |
657 | 00:27:55,605 | 00:27:58,873 | So I'll give you the academic records, mr. Cutter, | So I'll give you the academic records, mr. Cutter, |
658 | 00:27:58,941 | 00:28:01,209 | Not the emails. | Not the emails. |
659 | 00:28:03,813 | 00:28:06,582 | - Students who worked on a successful exoneration | - Students who worked on a successful exoneration |
660 | 00:28:06,649 | 00:28:09,751 | Have a grade average six points higher | Have a grade average six points higher |
661 | 00:28:09,818 | 00:28:11,385 | Than one who didn't. | Than one who didn't. |
662 | 00:28:11,453 | 00:28:13,353 | - And are your grades in there too, mike? | - And are your grades in there too, mike? |
663 | 00:28:13,421 | 00:28:15,655 | - Just because they're being rewarded | - Just because they're being rewarded |
664 | 00:28:15,722 | 00:28:17,590 | Doesn't mean they're cooking the books. | Doesn't mean they're cooking the books. |
665 | 00:28:17,657 | 00:28:19,291 | Most of ryan's exonerations | Most of ryan's exonerations |
666 | 00:28:19,359 | 00:28:21,026 | Were based on irrefutable dna matches. | Were based on irrefutable dna matches. |
667 | 00:28:21,093 | 00:28:23,762 | - I'm not saying that every piece of new evidence | - I'm not saying that every piece of new evidence |
668 | 00:28:23,830 | 00:28:24,929 | She's uncovered is tainted, | She's uncovered is tainted, |
669 | 00:28:24,997 | 00:28:26,897 | But there's pressure on these kids | But there's pressure on these kids |
670 | 00:28:26,965 | 00:28:28,432 | To overturn convictions. | To overturn convictions. |
671 | 00:28:28,500 | 00:28:30,233 | And her tacit reward system, | And her tacit reward system, |
672 | 00:28:30,301 | 00:28:33,703 | It--it fosters a culture of overzealousness. | It--it fosters a culture of overzealousness. |
673 | 00:28:33,770 | 00:28:36,438 | And--and emily, she finds the way in. | And--and emily, she finds the way in. |
674 | 00:28:36,506 | 00:28:39,407 | - I assume you're speaking from experience. | - I assume you're speaking from experience. |
675 | 00:28:39,475 | 00:28:41,709 | - Yeah. | - Yeah. |
676 | 00:28:41,777 | 00:28:44,244 | She knew I had nowhere to go for the holidays, | She knew I had nowhere to go for the holidays, |
677 | 00:28:44,312 | 00:28:48,381 | And she used to invite me to her house for thanksgiving, | And she used to invite me to her house for thanksgiving, |
678 | 00:28:48,449 | 00:28:51,284 | With her husband-- and christmas dinner. | With her husband-- and christmas dinner. |
679 | 00:28:51,352 | 00:28:53,987 | And I would have run into bullets for her. | And I would have run into bullets for her. |
680 | 00:28:54,054 | 00:28:56,088 | - And this is how you repay her kindness. | - And this is how you repay her kindness. |
681 | 00:28:56,156 | 00:28:59,224 | - The four students who worked on stuber's case | - The four students who worked on stuber's case |
682 | 00:28:59,292 | 00:29:02,160 | Got letters of recommendation to prospective employers. | Got letters of recommendation to prospective employers. |
683 | 00:29:02,228 | 00:29:04,161 | - And you're planning on introducing all of this | - And you're planning on introducing all of this |
684 | 00:29:04,229 | 00:29:05,495 | At stuber's new trial. | At stuber's new trial. |
685 | 00:29:05,563 | 00:29:06,629 | - Forget the retrial. | - Forget the retrial. |
686 | 00:29:06,697 | 00:29:08,430 | We'll move for a hearing to see how far | We'll move for a hearing to see how far |
687 | 00:29:08,498 | 00:29:10,265 | Ryan's students went to manufacture | Ryan's students went to manufacture |
688 | 00:29:10,333 | 00:29:11,633 | A wrongful conviction here. | A wrongful conviction here. |
689 | 00:29:11,701 | 00:29:15,536 | Judge braden can reinstate the jury verdict. | Judge braden can reinstate the jury verdict. |
690 | 00:29:18,172 | 00:29:19,806 | - Professor ryan was always skeptical | - Professor ryan was always skeptical |
691 | 00:29:19,874 | 00:29:21,974 | Of one-witness I.D. Cases like this one, | Of one-witness I.D. Cases like this one, |
692 | 00:29:22,042 | 00:29:23,776 | Especially when there was community pressure | Especially when there was community pressure |
693 | 00:29:23,843 | 00:29:25,111 | To make an arrest. | To make an arrest. |
694 | 00:29:25,178 | 00:29:27,613 | So she had us talk to jon and alan's neighbors. | So she had us talk to jon and alan's neighbors. |
695 | 00:29:27,681 | 00:29:30,716 | One of them put us onto their drug dealer, rodrigo diaz. | One of them put us onto their drug dealer, rodrigo diaz. |
696 | 00:29:30,784 | 00:29:32,951 | - The first time you talked to mr. Diaz | - The first time you talked to mr. Diaz |
697 | 00:29:33,019 | 00:29:34,419 | Was in a tequila bar. | Was in a tequila bar. |
698 | 00:29:34,487 | 00:29:36,886 | - What did you expect? He's a drug dealer. | - What did you expect? He's a drug dealer. |
699 | 00:29:36,954 | 00:29:39,888 | - Whom you compensated for spending time with you. | - Whom you compensated for spending time with you. |
700 | 00:29:39,956 | 00:29:41,723 | - He asked me to pay for his drinks and carfare. | - He asked me to pay for his drinks and carfare. |
701 | 00:29:41,790 | 00:29:43,491 | I was reimbursed by the clinic. | I was reimbursed by the clinic. |
702 | 00:29:43,558 | 00:29:45,159 | - But after taking the cash | - But after taking the cash |
703 | 00:29:45,226 | 00:29:47,160 | And then downing a pitcher of margaritas, | And then downing a pitcher of margaritas, |
704 | 00:29:47,228 | 00:29:50,795 | He revealed the new evidence you were looking for. | He revealed the new evidence you were looking for. |
705 | 00:29:50,863 | 00:29:54,232 | - He wasn't drunk enough to make me doubt what he was saying. | - He wasn't drunk enough to make me doubt what he was saying. |
706 | 00:29:54,300 | 00:29:55,933 | - And then he agreed to testify for you | - And then he agreed to testify for you |
707 | 00:29:56,001 | 00:29:57,969 | Just like any upstanding citizen. | Just like any upstanding citizen. |
708 | 00:29:58,036 | 00:29:59,470 | - That's right. | - That's right. |
709 | 00:29:59,538 | 00:30:01,238 | - Are you sure you didn't offer him more money | - Are you sure you didn't offer him more money |
710 | 00:30:01,306 | 00:30:03,239 | Or anything else to motivate him? | Or anything else to motivate him? |
711 | 00:30:03,307 | 00:30:05,874 | - He was worried about being arrested, | - He was worried about being arrested, |
712 | 00:30:05,942 | 00:30:08,044 | Because he'd be admitting to selling drugs. | Because he'd be admitting to selling drugs. |
713 | 00:30:08,112 | 00:30:09,413 | I told him if that happened, | I told him if that happened, |
714 | 00:30:09,481 | 00:30:11,082 | The clinic would get him a lawyer. | The clinic would get him a lawyer. |
715 | 00:30:11,149 | 00:30:12,850 | - Did you mention any of this-- | - Did you mention any of this-- |
716 | 00:30:12,917 | 00:30:15,418 | The free lawyer, the carfare, the drinks-- | The free lawyer, the carfare, the drinks-- |
717 | 00:30:15,486 | 00:30:16,953 | To professor ryan? | To professor ryan? |
718 | 00:30:17,021 | 00:30:18,587 | - Well... | - Well... |
719 | 00:30:18,655 | 00:30:20,956 | No. | No. |
720 | 00:30:21,024 | 00:30:22,957 | - After your work on the stuber case, | - After your work on the stuber case, |
721 | 00:30:23,025 | 00:30:26,326 | Did professor ryan write you a letter of recommendation | Did professor ryan write you a letter of recommendation |
722 | 00:30:26,394 | 00:30:28,327 | For a federal clerkship? | For a federal clerkship? |
723 | 00:30:28,395 | 00:30:30,362 | - Yes. She did. | - Yes. She did. |
724 | 00:30:36,001 | 00:30:37,869 | - Am I the only professor | - Am I the only professor |
725 | 00:30:37,936 | 00:30:40,237 | To write you a letter of recommendation? | To write you a letter of recommendation? |
726 | 00:30:40,305 | 00:30:43,506 | - No. I have two others. I'm in the top 10% of my class. | - No. I have two others. I'm in the top 10% of my class. |
727 | 00:30:43,574 | 00:30:44,940 | I'm also on law review. | I'm also on law review. |
728 | 00:30:45,008 | 00:30:47,276 | - Were you motivated to embellish mr. Diaz's story | - Were you motivated to embellish mr. Diaz's story |
729 | 00:30:47,344 | 00:30:49,711 | For a grade or a recommendation? | For a grade or a recommendation? |
730 | 00:30:49,779 | 00:30:50,712 | - Absolutely not. | - Absolutely not. |
731 | 00:30:50,780 | 00:30:52,948 | I was motivated to expose the truth, | I was motivated to expose the truth, |
732 | 00:30:53,016 | 00:30:54,450 | To remedy an injustice. | To remedy an injustice. |
733 | 00:30:54,518 | 00:30:57,620 | - Thank you. | - Thank you. |
734 | 00:30:57,688 | 00:31:02,191 | - I'd like to call emily ryan as the people's next witness. | - I'd like to call emily ryan as the people's next witness. |
735 | 00:31:04,929 | 00:31:06,296 | - Your honor, I'm defense counsel. | - Your honor, I'm defense counsel. |
736 | 00:31:06,363 | 00:31:07,397 | - Co-counsel. | - Co-counsel. |
737 | 00:31:07,464 | 00:31:09,031 | Mr. Gilman can handle any questioning. | Mr. Gilman can handle any questioning. |
738 | 00:31:09,099 | 00:31:11,500 | - I was alluding to attorney-client privilege. | - I was alluding to attorney-client privilege. |
739 | 00:31:11,568 | 00:31:12,935 | - I'll be asking about her clinic, | - I'll be asking about her clinic, |
740 | 00:31:13,003 | 00:31:15,171 | Not her conversations with mr. Stuber. | Not her conversations with mr. Stuber. |
741 | 00:31:15,238 | 00:31:18,574 | - Please take the witness stand, professor ryan. | - Please take the witness stand, professor ryan. |
742 | 00:31:24,113 | 00:31:27,481 | - It's customary to cover a witness' travel expenses, | - It's customary to cover a witness' travel expenses, |
743 | 00:31:27,549 | 00:31:30,817 | But we can't control what a witness does with the money. | But we can't control what a witness does with the money. |
744 | 00:31:30,885 | 00:31:33,720 | To suggest that mr. Diaz perjured himself for $80, | To suggest that mr. Diaz perjured himself for $80, |
745 | 00:31:33,788 | 00:31:35,355 | I find that preposterous. | I find that preposterous. |
746 | 00:31:35,422 | 00:31:37,823 | - Is it also customary to provide free cocktails | - Is it also customary to provide free cocktails |
747 | 00:31:37,891 | 00:31:39,425 | And free legal representation? | And free legal representation? |
748 | 00:31:39,492 | 00:31:42,060 | - Lisa may have been a bit oversolicitous. | - Lisa may have been a bit oversolicitous. |
749 | 00:31:42,128 | 00:31:44,795 | I would love to have some more experienced iestigators. | I would love to have some more experienced iestigators. |
750 | 00:31:44,863 | 00:31:47,064 | Unfortunately, we don't have those kind of resources. | Unfortunately, we don't have those kind of resources. |
751 | 00:31:47,132 | 00:31:49,433 | - So you reward the students in your clinic | - So you reward the students in your clinic |
752 | 00:31:49,500 | 00:31:51,902 | Who work on successful exonerations | Who work on successful exonerations |
753 | 00:31:51,969 | 00:31:53,403 | With better grades | With better grades |
754 | 00:31:53,471 | 00:31:55,372 | And more enthusiastic recommendations. | And more enthusiastic recommendations. |
755 | 00:31:55,439 | 00:31:56,840 | - They have higher grades | - They have higher grades |
756 | 00:31:56,907 | 00:31:58,941 | Because I assign my brightest students | Because I assign my brightest students |
757 | 00:31:59,009 | 00:32:00,443 | To the most serious cases. | To the most serious cases. |
758 | 00:32:00,510 | 00:32:03,379 | - With all this at stake, how can we know for certain | - With all this at stake, how can we know for certain |
759 | 00:32:03,447 | 00:32:07,349 | That lisa didn't suggest this hit man story to mr. Diaz? | That lisa didn't suggest this hit man story to mr. Diaz? |
760 | 00:32:07,417 | 00:32:09,451 | - My students may get a big overzealous. | - My students may get a big overzealous. |
761 | 00:32:09,519 | 00:32:11,587 | A lot of us are susceptible to that. | A lot of us are susceptible to that. |
762 | 00:32:11,655 | 00:32:13,588 | But they don't suborn perjury. | But they don't suborn perjury. |
763 | 00:32:13,655 | 00:32:16,090 | That goes against everything that we stand for. | That goes against everything that we stand for. |
764 | 00:32:16,157 | 00:32:17,791 | - All right, step down, professor ryan. | - All right, step down, professor ryan. |
765 | 00:32:17,859 | 00:32:20,226 | I've heard enough. | I've heard enough. |
766 | 00:32:20,294 | 00:32:22,061 | I'm troubled by the way mr. Diaz | I'm troubled by the way mr. Diaz |
767 | 00:32:22,129 | 00:32:25,297 | Was coaxed into coming forward by an apparent bribe. | Was coaxed into coming forward by an apparent bribe. |
768 | 00:32:25,365 | 00:32:26,865 | Without his testimony, | Without his testimony, |
769 | 00:32:26,933 | 00:32:29,934 | I never would have taken the extraordinary step | I never would have taken the extraordinary step |
770 | 00:32:30,002 | 00:32:31,936 | Of setting aside a verdict | Of setting aside a verdict |
771 | 00:32:32,004 | 00:32:33,404 | By a jury who weighed all the facts. | By a jury who weighed all the facts. |
772 | 00:32:33,472 | 00:32:35,273 | - The jury did not have all the facts. | - The jury did not have all the facts. |
773 | 00:32:35,340 | 00:32:36,707 | - Almost all the facts. | - Almost all the facts. |
774 | 00:32:36,775 | 00:32:40,077 | I now find diaz's testimony extremely suspect. | I now find diaz's testimony extremely suspect. |
775 | 00:32:40,145 | 00:32:41,979 | I'm reversing my earlier decision | I'm reversing my earlier decision |
776 | 00:32:42,047 | 00:32:44,982 | And reinstating the jury's conviction. | And reinstating the jury's conviction. |
777 | 00:32:48,153 | 00:32:49,486 | - In that case, | - In that case, |
778 | 00:32:49,554 | 00:32:51,888 | The defendant moves to dismiss for another reason. | The defendant moves to dismiss for another reason. |
779 | 00:32:51,956 | 00:32:53,489 | - Judge, are you gonna allow professor ryan | - Judge, are you gonna allow professor ryan |
780 | 00:32:53,557 | 00:32:57,226 | To keep taking potshots at a legitimate jury verdict? | To keep taking potshots at a legitimate jury verdict? |
781 | 00:32:57,293 | 00:33:00,596 | - What's the problem now, professor ryan? | - What's the problem now, professor ryan? |
782 | 00:33:00,663 | 00:33:03,098 | - The lead prosecutor's license to practice law | - The lead prosecutor's license to practice law |
783 | 00:33:03,166 | 00:33:04,767 | Was obtained fraudulently. | Was obtained fraudulently. |
784 | 00:33:04,835 | 00:33:07,269 | - Excuse me? - You heard me correctly, judge. | - Excuse me? - You heard me correctly, judge. |
785 | 00:33:07,337 | 00:33:08,871 | My client's right to a fair trial | My client's right to a fair trial |
786 | 00:33:08,939 | 00:33:10,306 | Includes the right to be prosecuted | Includes the right to be prosecuted |
787 | 00:33:10,373 | 00:33:12,174 | By assistant district attorney, | By assistant district attorney, |
788 | 00:33:12,242 | 00:33:16,012 | And mr. Cutter is not an attorney at all. | And mr. Cutter is not an attorney at all. |
789 | 00:33:22,580 | 00:33:24,643 | - I went to three colleges in four years. | - I went to three colleges in four years. |
790 | 00:33:24,711 | 00:33:27,045 | A couple of credits slipped through the cracks. | A couple of credits slipped through the cracks. |
791 | 00:33:27,112 | 00:33:28,546 | I thought it would get sorted out | I thought it would get sorted out |
792 | 00:33:28,613 | 00:33:30,314 | By the time I got to law school. | By the time I got to law school. |
793 | 00:33:30,382 | 00:33:33,316 | - So you don't actually have your b.A. | - So you don't actually have your b.A. |
794 | 00:33:33,384 | 00:33:35,721 | - I did the work, but no one... | - I did the work, but no one... |
795 | 00:33:35,788 | 00:33:37,622 | Actually handed me a diploma. | Actually handed me a diploma. |
796 | 00:33:37,690 | 00:33:40,692 | - I don't understand how this affects your law license. | - I don't understand how this affects your law license. |
797 | 00:33:40,760 | 00:33:44,196 | - This... Oversight got perpetuated | - This... Oversight got perpetuated |
798 | 00:33:44,263 | 00:33:46,698 | When I applied for the new york bar. | When I applied for the new york bar. |
799 | 00:33:46,766 | 00:33:48,967 | - You represented to the bar overseers | - You represented to the bar overseers |
800 | 00:33:49,035 | 00:33:51,970 | That you had your undergraduate degree. | That you had your undergraduate degree. |
801 | 00:33:52,037 | 00:33:53,704 | - Right. | - Right. |
802 | 00:33:53,772 | 00:33:57,275 | - And on your resume to the d.A.'s office. | - And on your resume to the d.A.'s office. |
803 | 00:33:58,777 | 00:34:00,545 | Damn it, mike. | Damn it, mike. |
804 | 00:34:00,613 | 00:34:03,881 | - How did emily ryan find out about it? | - How did emily ryan find out about it? |
805 | 00:34:03,948 | 00:34:05,549 | - She was my faculty advisor. | - She was my faculty advisor. |
806 | 00:34:05,616 | 00:34:08,183 | I mentioned it to her once, and she told me, | I mentioned it to her once, and she told me, |
807 | 00:34:08,251 | 00:34:10,514 | "don't worry about it. It's a technicality." | "don't worry about it. It's a technicality." |
808 | 00:34:10,582 | 00:34:11,848 | - It's now a technicality | - It's now a technicality |
809 | 00:34:11,915 | 00:34:14,717 | That puts every one of your convictions in jeopardy, | That puts every one of your convictions in jeopardy, |
810 | 00:34:14,784 | 00:34:17,219 | Starting with the stuber case. | Starting with the stuber case. |
811 | 00:34:17,287 | 00:34:19,554 | - Judge braden wants to put me under oath, | - Judge braden wants to put me under oath, |
812 | 00:34:19,622 | 00:34:23,757 | Hold a hearing in his chambers tomorrow. | Hold a hearing in his chambers tomorrow. |
813 | 00:34:23,825 | 00:34:26,693 | - I'll be joining you. | - I'll be joining you. |
814 | 00:34:29,630 | 00:34:31,497 | - After I passed the bar exam, | - After I passed the bar exam, |
815 | 00:34:31,565 | 00:34:34,834 | I checked the qualifications for the new york bar. | I checked the qualifications for the new york bar. |
816 | 00:34:34,902 | 00:34:37,570 | A college degree is not a requirement. | A college degree is not a requirement. |
817 | 00:34:37,638 | 00:34:40,172 | I do have the required law degree, | I do have the required law degree, |
818 | 00:34:40,240 | 00:34:44,944 | So I believe that my license to practice law is valid. | So I believe that my license to practice law is valid. |
819 | 00:34:45,011 | 00:34:47,379 | - May I ask a few questions, judge? | - May I ask a few questions, judge? |
820 | 00:34:47,447 | 00:34:49,915 | When you were interviewed | When you were interviewed |
821 | 00:34:49,983 | 00:34:53,719 | By the bar examiner's character and fitness committee, | By the bar examiner's character and fitness committee, |
822 | 00:34:53,787 | 00:34:55,854 | Did you mention any of this? | Did you mention any of this? |
823 | 00:34:55,922 | 00:34:57,356 | - No. | - No. |
824 | 00:34:57,423 | 00:34:59,591 | - So when you were sworn in as an a.D.A. | - So when you were sworn in as an a.D.A. |
825 | 00:34:59,659 | 00:35:01,893 | And you promised to uphold the laws, | And you promised to uphold the laws, |
826 | 00:35:01,961 | 00:35:03,729 | You were essentially committing a fraud | You were essentially committing a fraud |
827 | 00:35:03,796 | 00:35:05,363 | On the people of the state of new york. | On the people of the state of new york. |
828 | 00:35:05,431 | 00:35:07,466 | - I object to that characterization. | - I object to that characterization. |
829 | 00:35:07,533 | 00:35:10,568 | The question is whether his lapse of judgment | The question is whether his lapse of judgment |
830 | 00:35:10,636 | 00:35:13,571 | Impinged on the defendant's right to a fair trial | Impinged on the defendant's right to a fair trial |
831 | 00:35:13,639 | 00:35:17,141 | And why professor ryan waited so long to assert that it did. | And why professor ryan waited so long to assert that it did. |
832 | 00:35:17,209 | 00:35:19,277 | - I'll take the defense motions to dismiss | - I'll take the defense motions to dismiss |
833 | 00:35:19,344 | 00:35:20,745 | Under advisement. | Under advisement. |
834 | 00:35:20,813 | 00:35:23,014 | Once again, mr. Cutter, | Once again, mr. Cutter, |
835 | 00:35:23,082 | 00:35:27,118 | I am very disappointed by this turn of events. | I am very disappointed by this turn of events. |
836 | 00:35:33,759 | 00:35:35,994 | - You were 21. You made a mistake. | - You were 21. You made a mistake. |
837 | 00:35:36,062 | 00:35:38,063 | - I just raked a law student over the coals | - I just raked a law student over the coals |
838 | 00:35:38,130 | 00:35:40,098 | For having poor judgment. | For having poor judgment. |
839 | 00:35:40,166 | 00:35:43,301 | - Well, maybe you should have never gone after the clinic. | - Well, maybe you should have never gone after the clinic. |
840 | 00:35:43,369 | 00:35:46,936 | - I didn't have a choice. Their witness was lying. | - I didn't have a choice. Their witness was lying. |
841 | 00:35:47,004 | 00:35:49,539 | - And you had a chance to show up your mentor. | - And you had a chance to show up your mentor. |
842 | 00:35:49,606 | 00:35:51,607 | - That had nothing to do with it. | - That had nothing to do with it. |
843 | 00:35:51,675 | 00:35:54,142 | - Really? Mike. | - Really? Mike. |
844 | 00:35:57,013 | 00:35:58,580 | - Jack's gonna fire me. | - Jack's gonna fire me. |
845 | 00:35:58,648 | 00:36:00,215 | - You're being paranoid. | - You're being paranoid. |
846 | 00:36:00,283 | 00:36:02,384 | - I'd fire me. | - I'd fire me. |
847 | 00:36:02,452 | 00:36:04,853 | Who knows if they'll let me keep my license? | Who knows if they'll let me keep my license? |
848 | 00:36:09,892 | 00:36:11,392 | - Well, well... | - Well, well... |
849 | 00:36:11,460 | 00:36:14,330 | Personal visit from the district attorney. | Personal visit from the district attorney. |
850 | 00:36:14,398 | 00:36:17,200 | - You know why I'm here, emily. | - You know why I'm here, emily. |
851 | 00:36:17,267 | 00:36:19,335 | - That ship has already sailed. | - That ship has already sailed. |
852 | 00:36:19,403 | 00:36:21,537 | - Not necessarily. | - Not necessarily. |
853 | 00:36:21,605 | 00:36:23,973 | - I've seen too many innocent men rot in prison | - I've seen too many innocent men rot in prison |
854 | 00:36:24,040 | 00:36:26,008 | Because of prosecutorial hubris. | Because of prosecutorial hubris. |
855 | 00:36:26,075 | 00:36:27,509 | - Mike went after your clinic | - Mike went after your clinic |
856 | 00:36:27,577 | 00:36:30,011 | Because that's what you taught him to do. | Because that's what you taught him to do. |
857 | 00:36:30,079 | 00:36:31,746 | He didn't deserve this. | He didn't deserve this. |
858 | 00:36:31,814 | 00:36:33,348 | - I didn't deserve this. | - I didn't deserve this. |
859 | 00:36:33,415 | 00:36:36,049 | And I gave you the opportunity to reel him in. | And I gave you the opportunity to reel him in. |
860 | 00:36:36,117 | 00:36:37,951 | - Then blame me. | - Then blame me. |
861 | 00:36:38,019 | 00:36:41,721 | Mike's a fine prosecutor. He does you proud. | Mike's a fine prosecutor. He does you proud. |
862 | 00:36:41,788 | 00:36:44,056 | Do you really want to destroy what you created? | Do you really want to destroy what you created? |
863 | 00:36:44,124 | 00:36:46,992 | - I still have a client to represent. | - I still have a client to represent. |
864 | 00:36:47,059 | 00:36:51,629 | - Do you believe he's innocent? | - Do you believe he's innocent? |
865 | 00:36:51,697 | 00:36:55,399 | Or are you teaching mike cutter another lesson? | Or are you teaching mike cutter another lesson? |
866 | 00:36:55,467 | 00:36:57,667 | - What do you propose? | - What do you propose? |
867 | 00:36:57,735 | 00:37:00,203 | - If I can bring mike around to man one, | - If I can bring mike around to man one, |
868 | 00:37:00,271 | 00:37:01,837 | Will stuber make a deal? | Will stuber make a deal? |
869 | 00:37:01,905 | 00:37:04,139 | - Right. He pleads, and my motion for dismissal | - Right. He pleads, and my motion for dismissal |
870 | 00:37:04,207 | 00:37:05,607 | Just goes away? | Just goes away? |
871 | 00:37:05,674 | 00:37:08,843 | - Mike's still going to have to face the bar overseers. | - Mike's still going to have to face the bar overseers. |
872 | 00:37:10,745 | 00:37:13,079 | - No promises, jack. Uh-uh. | - No promises, jack. Uh-uh. |
873 | 00:37:13,147 | 00:37:16,949 | It sounds like we both have some convincing to do. | It sounds like we both have some convincing to do. |
874 | 00:37:17,016 | 00:37:19,620 | - Stuber's a hate murderer! | - Stuber's a hate murderer! |
875 | 00:37:19,687 | 00:37:21,992 | He doesn't deserve man one! | He doesn't deserve man one! |
876 | 00:37:22,060 | 00:37:26,167 | - I agree with you, on the merits. | - I agree with you, on the merits. |
877 | 00:37:26,234 | 00:37:28,102 | - I see. | - I see. |
878 | 00:37:28,170 | 00:37:31,972 | We need to make a deal to cover my ass. | We need to make a deal to cover my ass. |
879 | 00:37:32,040 | 00:37:34,474 | Well, I'm sorry, but I'd rather get disbarred | Well, I'm sorry, but I'd rather get disbarred |
880 | 00:37:34,542 | 00:37:36,309 | Than be a part of that scenario. | Than be a part of that scenario. |
881 | 00:37:36,377 | 00:37:39,645 | - Here's the scenario you should be worried about. | - Here's the scenario you should be worried about. |
882 | 00:37:39,712 | 00:37:43,448 | Stuber gets retried by a real lawyer. | Stuber gets retried by a real lawyer. |
883 | 00:37:43,515 | 00:37:46,384 | He walks, because emily ryan's | He walks, because emily ryan's |
884 | 00:37:46,451 | 00:37:49,885 | Injected enough doubt in the case to sway a jury, | Injected enough doubt in the case to sway a jury, |
885 | 00:37:49,953 | 00:37:52,520 | And judge braden refers your misfeasance | And judge braden refers your misfeasance |
886 | 00:37:52,588 | 00:37:53,888 | To the first department. | To the first department. |
887 | 00:37:53,956 | 00:37:57,190 | - Well, I'm sorry, jack, but I won't do it. | - Well, I'm sorry, jack, but I won't do it. |
888 | 00:37:57,258 | 00:37:59,625 | - Yes, you will. | - Yes, you will. |
889 | 00:37:59,692 | 00:38:02,561 | If you have any hope of staying on here, | If you have any hope of staying on here, |
890 | 00:38:02,628 | 00:38:05,764 | End this debacle with a plea bargain. | End this debacle with a plea bargain. |
891 | 00:38:16,481 | 00:38:19,416 | - Always be early-- just like I taught you, mike. | - Always be early-- just like I taught you, mike. |
892 | 00:38:19,484 | 00:38:21,284 | - And face the door-- | - And face the door-- |
893 | 00:38:21,352 | 00:38:23,951 | That way, you don't get stabbed in the back. | That way, you don't get stabbed in the back. |
894 | 00:38:24,019 | 00:38:26,219 | - You forced my hand. I warned you not to. | - You forced my hand. I warned you not to. |
895 | 00:38:26,286 | 00:38:30,422 | - I never thought you'd actually come after my license. | - I never thought you'd actually come after my license. |
896 | 00:38:30,489 | 00:38:32,756 | - Why? You didn't think I could fight as dirty as you did? | - Why? You didn't think I could fight as dirty as you did? |
897 | 00:38:32,824 | 00:38:34,658 | - You were the one who started this, emily. | - You were the one who started this, emily. |
898 | 00:38:34,726 | 00:38:36,293 | - I challenged one case. | - I challenged one case. |
899 | 00:38:36,361 | 00:38:38,395 | You were the one that made this personal. | You were the one that made this personal. |
900 | 00:38:38,463 | 00:38:40,664 | Everything that I have worked to build-- | Everything that I have worked to build-- |
901 | 00:38:40,732 | 00:38:43,167 | Everything that you used to believe in-- | Everything that you used to believe in-- |
902 | 00:38:43,235 | 00:38:44,902 | You're trying to rip it apart. | You're trying to rip it apart. |
903 | 00:38:44,970 | 00:38:47,505 | - Well, you should have known that I wasn't gonna back down. | - Well, you should have known that I wasn't gonna back down. |
904 | 00:38:47,572 | 00:38:50,507 | - Well, you're here now, mike. That shows maturity. | - Well, you're here now, mike. That shows maturity. |
905 | 00:38:50,575 | 00:38:52,843 | There was a time when you couldn't accept defeat. | There was a time when you couldn't accept defeat. |
906 | 00:38:56,915 | 00:38:58,415 | - Judge braden says he'll have a ruling | - Judge braden says he'll have a ruling |
907 | 00:38:58,483 | 00:39:00,350 | On our retrial motion tomorrow. | On our retrial motion tomorrow. |
908 | 00:39:00,418 | 00:39:03,386 | - Is that really what you want, mr. Stuber-- | - Is that really what you want, mr. Stuber-- |
909 | 00:39:03,454 | 00:39:04,954 | Another trial? | Another trial? |
910 | 00:39:05,021 | 00:39:07,522 | - I want to get out of here. | - I want to get out of here. |
911 | 00:39:07,589 | 00:39:09,156 | I'm innocent. | I'm innocent. |
912 | 00:39:09,224 | 00:39:10,690 | - Oh, well, then there's no need | - Oh, well, then there's no need |
913 | 00:39:10,758 | 00:39:12,624 | To talk about a plea bargain, is there? | To talk about a plea bargain, is there? |
914 | 00:39:12,692 | 00:39:14,793 | - W-wait a minute, mike. Come on. | - W-wait a minute, mike. Come on. |
915 | 00:39:14,861 | 00:39:16,995 | Now, just hear him out, cedric. | Now, just hear him out, cedric. |
916 | 00:39:17,063 | 00:39:18,696 | - This guy's not even a lawyer. | - This guy's not even a lawyer. |
917 | 00:39:18,764 | 00:39:21,865 | Can he even make a deal? - Yes, he can, mr. Stuber. | Can he even make a deal? - Yes, he can, mr. Stuber. |
918 | 00:39:21,933 | 00:39:24,801 | And if you have any doubts, I'm here for your peace of mind. | And if you have any doubts, I'm here for your peace of mind. |
919 | 00:39:24,869 | 00:39:26,836 | - Oh, that's sweet of you. | - Oh, that's sweet of you. |
920 | 00:39:30,139 | 00:39:33,107 | So what do you got? | So what do you got? |
921 | 00:39:33,174 | 00:39:35,375 | - Man one-- | - Man one-- |
922 | 00:39:35,443 | 00:39:37,009 | 20 years. | 20 years. |
923 | 00:39:37,077 | 00:39:38,677 | - [laughing] screw that. | - [laughing] screw that. |
924 | 00:39:38,745 | 00:39:40,712 | - Come on, mike, you can do better than that. | - Come on, mike, you can do better than that. |
925 | 00:39:40,780 | 00:39:43,215 | If he's gonna blow trial, the minimum is 15 years. | If he's gonna blow trial, the minimum is 15 years. |
926 | 00:39:43,283 | 00:39:44,883 | - Everyone in this room knows | - Everyone in this room knows |
927 | 00:39:44,951 | 00:39:46,551 | He won't get less than 25 to life | He won't get less than 25 to life |
928 | 00:39:46,619 | 00:39:48,153 | After a conviction for a hate crime. | After a conviction for a hate crime. |
929 | 00:39:48,220 | 00:39:49,721 | - You know what? | - You know what? |
930 | 00:39:49,788 | 00:39:52,556 | I'm sick of this hate-crime crap. | I'm sick of this hate-crime crap. |
931 | 00:39:52,624 | 00:39:55,392 | It's not like he was a black guy... | It's not like he was a black guy... |
932 | 00:39:55,460 | 00:39:56,827 | [chuckles] | [chuckles] |
933 | 00:39:56,895 | 00:39:58,895 | Or a spic. | Or a spic. |
934 | 00:40:02,299 | 00:40:04,133 | - Our fer just went up to 25. | - Our fer just went up to 25. |
935 | 00:40:04,201 | 00:40:05,467 | - Mike. | - Mike. |
936 | 00:40:05,535 | 00:40:07,102 | - Go to trial if you don't like it. | - Go to trial if you don't like it. |
937 | 00:40:07,170 | 00:40:08,503 | - How about our moon for dismissal? | - How about our moon for dismissal? |
938 | 00:40:08,571 | 00:40:10,038 | How about your law license? | How about your law license? |
939 | 00:40:10,106 | 00:40:11,106 | - You can have my license! | - You can have my license! |
940 | 00:40:11,173 | 00:40:12,540 | It'll free me up to testify | It'll free me up to testify |
941 | 00:40:12,608 | 00:40:15,643 | About the hate speech your client just spewed in here. | About the hate speech your client just spewed in here. |
942 | 00:40:15,711 | 00:40:18,846 | And after 's convicted of murder in state court, | And after 's convicted of murder in state court, |
943 | 00:40:18,914 | 00:40:20,715 | I'll walk across to the u.S. Attorney's office | I'll walk across to the u.S. Attorney's office |
944 | 00:40:20,783 | 00:40:22,650 | And have your client prosecuted | And have your client prosecuted |
945 | 00:40:22,718 | 00:40:24,986 | For violating the matthew shepard act. | For violating the matthew shepard act. |
946 | 00:40:25,053 | 00:40:27,955 | Hate murder against gays is a federal offense now. | Hate murder against gays is a federal offense now. |
947 | 00:40:28,023 | 00:40:31,659 | Are you ready to do back-to-back life sentences, mr. Stuber? | Are you ready to do back-to-back life sentences, mr. Stuber? |
948 | 00:40:31,727 | 00:40:36,097 | You will die in jail. | You will die in jail. |
949 | 00:40:44,606 | 00:40:46,573 | - [whispering] is that true? | - [whispering] is that true? |
950 | 00:40:54,748 | 00:40:58,517 | - Uh, h-he'll take the 20 years you originally offered. | - Uh, h-he'll take the 20 years you originally offered. |
951 | 00:40:58,585 | 00:41:01,153 | - It's 25 or nothing. | - It's 25 or nothing. |
952 | 00:41:01,221 | 00:41:03,520 | Now or never, mr. Stuber. | Now or never, mr. Stuber. |
953 | 00:41:06,757 | 00:41:08,859 | - Is this fed thing for real? | - Is this fed thing for real? |
954 | 00:41:08,926 | 00:41:11,127 | - Yes. I'm afraido. | - Yes. I'm afraido. |
955 | 00:41:15,799 | 00:41:17,632 | - I'll take the 25. | - I'll take the 25. |
956 | 00:41:24,839 | 00:41:27,807 | That guy's nuts, you know that? | That guy's nuts, you know that? |
957 | 00:41:29,776 | 00:41:32,411 | - Yeah. I do. | - Yeah. I do. |
958 | 00:41:45,689 | 00:41:49,058 | - I've been reprimanded by the bar overseers-- | - I've been reprimanded by the bar overseers-- |
959 | 00:41:49,126 | 00:41:51,493 | Goes in the law journal tomorrow. | Goes in the law journal tomorrow. |
960 | 00:41:59,535 | 00:42:01,001 | - "but we cannot see | - "but we cannot see |
961 | 00:42:01,069 | 00:42:03,237 | "how the flaw in mr. Cutter's credentials | "how the flaw in mr. Cutter's credentials |
962 | 00:42:03,304 | 00:42:07,140 | Prejudiced any of his past convictions." | Prejudiced any of his past convictions." |
963 | 00:42:07,208 | 00:42:09,208 | - I dodged a bullet. | - I dodged a bullet. |
964 | 00:42:10,776 | 00:42:12,143 | - Did you? | - Did you? |