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1 | 00:00:05,400 | 00:00:06,900 | In the criminal justice system, | In the criminal justice system, |
2 | 00:00:06,901 | 00:00:09,301 | The people are represented by two separate, | The people are represented by two separate, |
3 | 00:00:09,302 | 00:00:10,702 | Yet equally important groups | Yet equally important groups |
4 | 00:00:10,703 | 00:00:12,903 | The police who investigate crime | The police who investigate crime |
5 | 00:00:12,904 | 00:00:15,504 | And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. | And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. |
6 | 00:00:15,505 | 00:00:16,905 | These are their stories. | These are their stories. |
7 | 00:00:19,206 | 00:00:21,606 | Death cab for cutie? That's my favorite group too. | Death cab for cutie? That's my favorite group too. |
8 | 00:00:21,607 | 00:00:24,707 | I thought GNR was your favorite. | I thought GNR was your favorite. |
9 | 00:00:24,734 | 00:00:26,935 | - No, it's uh, it's a favorite metal band. | - No, it's uh, it's a favorite metal band. |
10 | 00:00:26,002 | 00:00:27,971 | - Oh, is it? | - Oh, is it? |
11 | 00:00:29,638 | 00:00:30,972 | Well, it's nice to meet you, robbie. | Well, it's nice to meet you, robbie. |
12 | 00:00:31,140 | 00:00:32,508 | - Oh, yeah. Same. | - Oh, yeah. Same. |
13 | 00:00:33,776 | 00:00:34,943 | Uh, hey, listen. | Uh, hey, listen. |
14 | 00:00:35,010 | 00:00:36,845 | I know you're just here for the weekend, | I know you're just here for the weekend, |
15 | 00:00:36,912 | 00:00:38,613 | But there's a club in williamsburg | But there's a club in williamsburg |
16 | 00:00:38,681 | 00:00:40,248 | With a great house band, that's-- | With a great house band, that's-- |
17 | 00:00:40,316 | 00:00:43,351 | - I promised my friend I would spend the evenings with her. | - I promised my friend I would spend the evenings with her. |
18 | 00:00:43,419 | 00:00:44,419 | - Okay. | - Okay. |
19 | 00:00:44,487 | 00:00:48,656 | - Maybe, um, brunch tomorrow? | - Maybe, um, brunch tomorrow? |
20 | 00:00:48,724 | 00:00:50,058 | - Awesome. Yeah. | - Awesome. Yeah. |
21 | 00:00:50,125 | 00:00:53,127 | - Here. Call me in the morning. | - Here. Call me in the morning. |
22 | 00:00:53,195 | 00:00:54,496 | Okay? | Okay? |
23 | 00:00:54,563 | 00:00:55,897 | - Okay. | - Okay. |
24 | 00:00:55,965 | 00:00:58,132 | - All right. | - All right. |
25 | 00:01:04,139 | 00:01:08,509 | - Hi, mom. Yeah, I just got to new york. | - Hi, mom. Yeah, I just got to new york. |
26 | 00:01:08,577 | 00:01:12,146 | Oh, and I met this really cute doctor on the train. | Oh, and I met this really cute doctor on the train. |
27 | 00:01:12,214 | 00:01:16,017 | Well, almost a doctor. He's still in med school. | Well, almost a doctor. He's still in med school. |
28 | 00:01:16,085 | 00:01:17,285 | - If we were staying in a nice hotel, | - If we were staying in a nice hotel, |
29 | 00:01:17,352 | 00:01:18,853 | We'd have 24-hour room service- | We'd have 24-hour room service- |
30 | 00:01:18,921 | 00:01:21,756 | - Don't worry. I got it handled. | - Don't worry. I got it handled. |
31 | 00:01:21,824 | 00:01:24,192 | - No way. I am not eating leftovers. | - No way. I am not eating leftovers. |
32 | 00:01:24,259 | 00:01:25,693 | - This stuff hasn't even been touched. | - This stuff hasn't even been touched. |
33 | 00:01:25,761 | 00:01:29,597 | Look, a club sandwich, with steak fries. | Look, a club sandwich, with steak fries. |
34 | 00:01:29,665 | 00:01:31,199 | Still warm. | Still warm. |
35 | 00:01:31,266 | 00:01:32,667 | - Is there ketchup? | - Is there ketchup? |
36 | 00:01:32,735 | 00:01:34,335 | - Maybe under here. | - Maybe under here. |
37 | 00:01:34,403 | 00:01:36,971 | See, honey, I would never let you starve. | See, honey, I would never let you starve. |
38 | 00:01:37,039 | 00:01:39,073 | [gasps] | [gasps] |
39 | 00:01:43,846 | 00:01:46,080 | - She's not one of our employees. | - She's not one of our employees. |
40 | 00:01:46,148 | 00:01:48,983 | Either a guest, or a guest of a guest. | Either a guest, or a guest of a guest. |
41 | 00:01:49,051 | 00:01:50,785 | - Security cameras cover this area? | - Security cameras cover this area? |
42 | 00:01:50,853 | 00:01:52,720 | - No, just the main entrance and lobby. | - No, just the main entrance and lobby. |
43 | 00:01:52,788 | 00:01:54,522 | Our guests like their privacy. | Our guests like their privacy. |
44 | 00:01:54,590 | 00:01:55,923 | - Yeah, I'm sure her killer did too. | - Yeah, I'm sure her killer did too. |
45 | 00:01:55,991 | 00:01:57,425 | We'll need your guest list. | We'll need your guest list. |
46 | 00:01:57,493 | 00:02:00,862 | - Well, two gunshot wounds. One to the back of the head, | - Well, two gunshot wounds. One to the back of the head, |
47 | 00:02:00,929 | 00:02:02,163 | And one in the lower back, | And one in the lower back, |
48 | 00:02:02,231 | 00:02:06,134 | Plus plastic cable ties around her hands and feet. | Plus plastic cable ties around her hands and feet. |
49 | 00:02:06,201 | 00:02:07,769 | - Mac and cheese and chocolate milk. | - Mac and cheese and chocolate milk. |
50 | 00:02:07,836 | 00:02:09,570 | This must be off the children's menu. | This must be off the children's menu. |
51 | 00:02:09,638 | 00:02:11,405 | - Yeah, well. Pretty girl like this, | - Yeah, well. Pretty girl like this, |
52 | 00:02:11,473 | 00:02:14,709 | I wonder whose menu she was on. | I wonder whose menu she was on. |
53 | 00:02:21,610 | 00:02:23,410 | Sync by Adriano_CSI | Sync by Adriano_CSI |
54 | 00:03:03,679 | 00:03:05,580 | - I put the cart out after I got the kids to bed. | - I put the cart out after I got the kids to bed. |
55 | 00:03:05,647 | 00:03:08,783 | I didn't see anyone in the hallway. | I didn't see anyone in the hallway. |
56 | 00:03:08,851 | 00:03:11,519 | - Justine stebbins, from richmond. | - Justine stebbins, from richmond. |
57 | 00:03:11,587 | 00:03:14,121 | Checked in Friday. | Checked in Friday. |
58 | 00:03:14,189 | 00:03:17,725 | Ms. Stebbins? Hotel security. | Ms. Stebbins? Hotel security. |
59 | 00:03:19,528 | 00:03:22,663 | - Ms. Stebbins? Hello? | - Ms. Stebbins? Hello? |
60 | 00:03:24,900 | 00:03:26,267 | - I don't see a purse. | - I don't see a purse. |
61 | 00:03:26,335 | 00:03:29,470 | - Maybe she went out. | - Maybe she went out. |
62 | 00:03:32,608 | 00:03:34,609 | - Lupes, grab that corner. | - Lupes, grab that corner. |
63 | 00:03:40,716 | 00:03:43,518 | - I think we got the right room. | - I think we got the right room. |
64 | 00:03:43,585 | 00:03:44,952 | - First shot cut the spinal cord. | - First shot cut the spinal cord. |
65 | 00:03:45,020 | 00:03:46,888 | It was at close range, and aimed to paralyze her | It was at close range, and aimed to paralyze her |
66 | 00:03:46,955 | 00:03:48,890 | Below the waist. | Below the waist. |
67 | 00:03:48,957 | 00:03:50,691 | There's a time gap before the kill shot | There's a time gap before the kill shot |
68 | 00:03:50,759 | 00:03:52,426 | At the base of the skull. | At the base of the skull. |
69 | 00:03:52,494 | 00:03:55,563 | 5 to 15 minutes. | 5 to 15 minutes. |
70 | 00:03:55,631 | 00:03:57,798 | There's tearing around her mouth consistent with a ball gag. | There's tearing around her mouth consistent with a ball gag. |
71 | 00:03:57,866 | 00:04:00,668 | No evidence of sexual assault. | No evidence of sexual assault. |
72 | 00:04:00,736 | 00:04:03,070 | - He bound her hands, feet, | - He bound her hands, feet, |
73 | 00:04:03,138 | 00:04:05,540 | Gagged her, and paralyzed her... | Gagged her, and paralyzed her... |
74 | 00:04:05,607 | 00:04:08,342 | - Yeah, then he watched her, wiggling around helpless | - Yeah, then he watched her, wiggling around helpless |
75 | 00:04:08,410 | 00:04:10,411 | Before finishing her off. | Before finishing her off. |
76 | 00:04:10,479 | 00:04:12,146 | - It's called letting her know who's boss. | - It's called letting her know who's boss. |
77 | 00:04:12,214 | 00:04:15,182 | - Yeah. | - Yeah. |
78 | 00:04:15,250 | 00:04:19,654 | - Justine worked part-time in a sports clinic in hopewell. | - Justine worked part-time in a sports clinic in hopewell. |
79 | 00:04:19,721 | 00:04:22,957 | She was studying to be a physical therapist. | She was studying to be a physical therapist. |
80 | 00:04:24,893 | 00:04:28,329 | - We're very sorry, mrs. Stebbins. | - We're very sorry, mrs. Stebbins. |
81 | 00:04:28,397 | 00:04:30,131 | What brought your daughter to town? | What brought your daughter to town? |
82 | 00:04:30,198 | 00:04:32,066 | - Sightseeing. | - Sightseeing. |
83 | 00:04:32,134 | 00:04:34,702 | She said she was staying with this girl candace. | She said she was staying with this girl candace. |
84 | 00:04:34,770 | 00:04:36,103 | But now you're telling me | But now you're telling me |
85 | 00:04:36,171 | 00:04:39,006 | That justine was staying in a hotel? | That justine was staying in a hotel? |
86 | 00:04:39,074 | 00:04:43,744 | Maybe this friend--it was a fib so I wouldn't worry. | Maybe this friend--it was a fib so I wouldn't worry. |
87 | 00:04:43,812 | 00:04:46,514 | - When was the last time you spoke with justine? | - When was the last time you spoke with justine? |
88 | 00:04:46,582 | 00:04:47,982 | - Friday. | - Friday. |
89 | 00:04:48,050 | 00:04:50,318 | She was all excited about a boy she met on the train. | She was all excited about a boy she met on the train. |
90 | 00:04:50,385 | 00:04:52,753 | [gasps] | [gasps] |
91 | 00:04:52,821 | 00:04:54,555 | A medical student. | A medical student. |
92 | 00:04:54,623 | 00:04:56,657 | Then she sent me a text Saturday afternoon. | Then she sent me a text Saturday afternoon. |
93 | 00:04:56,725 | 00:04:57,725 | I can show you. | I can show you. |
94 | 00:04:57,793 | 00:04:59,527 | She was going jogging in the park. | She was going jogging in the park. |
95 | 00:04:59,595 | 00:05:00,962 | - With this boy? | - With this boy? |
96 | 00:05:01,029 | 00:05:05,333 | - I don't know. Oh, no... | - I don't know. Oh, no... |
97 | 00:05:05,400 | 00:05:09,537 | I erased it. I erased her text... | I erased it. I erased her text... |
98 | 00:05:13,075 | 00:05:14,475 | - A med student. | - A med student. |
99 | 00:05:14,543 | 00:05:17,645 | Maybe she checked into the hotel to play doctor with him. | Maybe she checked into the hotel to play doctor with him. |
100 | 00:05:17,713 | 00:05:20,881 | - The hotel video has her checking in alone on Friday. | - The hotel video has her checking in alone on Friday. |
101 | 00:05:20,949 | 00:05:22,817 | - Well, still, we need to find this young man. | - Well, still, we need to find this young man. |
102 | 00:05:22,884 | 00:05:25,152 | - Yeah, well, there are no calls from her room. | - Yeah, well, there are no calls from her room. |
103 | 00:05:25,220 | 00:05:26,954 | We're still waiting on the dumps from her cell phone, | We're still waiting on the dumps from her cell phone, |
104 | 00:05:27,022 | 00:05:29,957 | Which by the way is missing, along with her purse and wallet. | Which by the way is missing, along with her purse and wallet. |
105 | 00:05:30,025 | 00:05:31,859 | - The killer's no amateur. He brought plastic ties, | - The killer's no amateur. He brought plastic ties, |
106 | 00:05:31,927 | 00:05:33,527 | He doesn't touch the girl-- | He doesn't touch the girl-- |
107 | 00:05:33,595 | 00:05:36,764 | Just pop-pop with a .22-- he tidies up the crime scene, | Just pop-pop with a .22-- he tidies up the crime scene, |
108 | 00:05:36,832 | 00:05:38,332 | Stashes the body where it won't | Stashes the body where it won't |
109 | 00:05:38,400 | 00:05:40,334 | Be traced to the room for a few hours. | Be traced to the room for a few hours. |
110 | 00:05:40,402 | 00:05:41,636 | He's one cool customer. | He's one cool customer. |
111 | 00:05:41,703 | 00:05:43,904 | - Who somehow talked his way into her room. | - Who somehow talked his way into her room. |
112 | 00:05:43,972 | 00:05:45,873 | C.S.U. Find that in the trash? | C.S.U. Find that in the trash? |
113 | 00:05:45,941 | 00:05:47,074 | - Yeah. | - Yeah. |
114 | 00:05:47,142 | 00:05:48,409 | Brunch for two on Saturday, | Brunch for two on Saturday, |
115 | 00:05:48,477 | 00:05:50,511 | And two tickets to the nishizawa museum. | And two tickets to the nishizawa museum. |
116 | 00:05:50,579 | 00:05:53,848 | - Art and food can work wonders on an impressionable girl. | - Art and food can work wonders on an impressionable girl. |
117 | 00:05:53,915 | 00:05:56,117 | - Right. Table 23. | - Right. Table 23. |
118 | 00:05:56,184 | 00:05:58,185 | - You remember who she was with? | - You remember who she was with? |
119 | 00:05:58,253 | 00:06:01,322 | - Uh, some med student working really hard to impress her. | - Uh, some med student working really hard to impress her. |
120 | 00:06:01,390 | 00:06:03,724 | He told her he could see the houdini sculpture | He told her he could see the houdini sculpture |
121 | 00:06:03,792 | 00:06:06,527 | In the nishizawa museum courtyard from his lab. | In the nishizawa museum courtyard from his lab. |
122 | 00:06:06,595 | 00:06:07,928 | [laughs] | [laughs] |
123 | 00:06:07,996 | 00:06:09,597 | - Yeah. I don't get it. | - Yeah. I don't get it. |
124 | 00:06:09,665 | 00:06:12,500 | - It's houdon, not houdini. | - It's houdon, not houdini. |
125 | 00:06:12,567 | 00:06:16,437 | Uh, this date, you happen to catch his name? | Uh, this date, you happen to catch his name? |
126 | 00:06:16,505 | 00:06:19,273 | - On his credit card, which got declined, by the way. | - On his credit card, which got declined, by the way. |
127 | 00:06:19,341 | 00:06:20,508 | She ended up taking care of it. | She ended up taking care of it. |
128 | 00:06:20,575 | 00:06:24,445 | His name was robbie, last name "v-I" something. | His name was robbie, last name "v-I" something. |
129 | 00:06:25,881 | 00:06:28,783 | I gotta get this. - Yeah. | I gotta get this. - Yeah. |
130 | 00:06:28,850 | 00:06:30,351 | Robbie who works in a lab | Robbie who works in a lab |
131 | 00:06:30,419 | 00:06:33,154 | Overlooking the nishizawa museum. | Overlooking the nishizawa museum. |
132 | 00:06:33,221 | 00:06:34,689 | Which is on spring. | Which is on spring. |
133 | 00:06:34,756 | 00:06:37,858 | - Next door to chelsea university. | - Next door to chelsea university. |
134 | 00:06:39,728 | 00:06:43,197 | - Oh, robbie vickery... That med student. | - Oh, robbie vickery... That med student. |
135 | 00:06:43,265 | 00:06:44,565 | - Right. Is he here? | - Right. Is he here? |
136 | 00:06:44,633 | 00:06:47,368 | - Well, you can find, uh, [clears throat] dr. Vickery | - Well, you can find, uh, [clears throat] dr. Vickery |
137 | 00:06:47,436 | 00:06:50,838 | Consulting with his colleagues right back there. | Consulting with his colleagues right back there. |
138 | 00:06:56,978 | 00:06:58,979 | - Robert vickery? | - Robert vickery? |
139 | 00:06:59,047 | 00:07:00,681 | - Yeah, that's me. | - Yeah, that's me. |
140 | 00:07:00,749 | 00:07:05,686 | - Lab technician--is there someplace we can talk? | - Lab technician--is there someplace we can talk? |
141 | 00:07:05,754 | 00:07:07,655 | - I never actually told justine I was a med student. | - I never actually told justine I was a med student. |
142 | 00:07:07,723 | 00:07:09,957 | I said I worked in a medical research lab. | I said I worked in a medical research lab. |
143 | 00:07:10,025 | 00:07:11,659 | - Hey, robbie, we're not gonna bust your chops | - Hey, robbie, we're not gonna bust your chops |
144 | 00:07:11,727 | 00:07:13,260 | For trying to impress a girl. | For trying to impress a girl. |
145 | 00:07:13,328 | 00:07:16,797 | - I can't believe she's dead. | - I can't believe she's dead. |
146 | 00:07:16,865 | 00:07:19,166 | We real-- we really connected. | We real-- we really connected. |
147 | 00:07:19,234 | 00:07:20,234 | - Yeah? | - Yeah? |
148 | 00:07:20,302 | 00:07:21,602 | When was the last time you saw her? | When was the last time you saw her? |
149 | 00:07:21,670 | 00:07:22,937 | - Saturday. | - Saturday. |
150 | 00:07:23,004 | 00:07:25,406 | We had brunch, then we went to the nishizawa museum. | We had brunch, then we went to the nishizawa museum. |
151 | 00:07:25,474 | 00:07:26,674 | - Is that it? | - Is that it? |
152 | 00:07:26,742 | 00:07:28,075 | - She told me she'd be in town till Monday. | - She told me she'd be in town till Monday. |
153 | 00:07:28,143 | 00:07:30,978 | She told me to call her. I tried, twice. | She told me to call her. I tried, twice. |
154 | 00:07:31,046 | 00:07:32,046 | It went to voicemail. | It went to voicemail. |
155 | 00:07:32,114 | 00:07:34,782 | - So you, Saturday night? | - So you, Saturday night? |
156 | 00:07:34,850 | 00:07:36,250 | - Me? I was here. | - Me? I was here. |
157 | 00:07:36,318 | 00:07:38,185 | I had to destroy some sick rats. | I had to destroy some sick rats. |
158 | 00:07:38,253 | 00:07:42,256 | Then I had a burger at fratelli's in, um, brooklyn. | Then I had a burger at fratelli's in, um, brooklyn. |
159 | 00:07:42,324 | 00:07:45,526 | Then I went home and crashed. | Then I went home and crashed. |
160 | 00:07:45,594 | 00:07:47,094 | - The bartender at fratelli's | - The bartender at fratelli's |
161 | 00:07:47,162 | 00:07:49,230 | Remembers him leaving around 10:00 on Saturday night. | Remembers him leaving around 10:00 on Saturday night. |
162 | 00:07:49,297 | 00:07:51,832 | - Well, that's time enough to get to the girl's hotel. | - Well, that's time enough to get to the girl's hotel. |
163 | 00:07:51,900 | 00:07:53,200 | - Justine's cell records | - Justine's cell records |
164 | 00:07:53,268 | 00:07:56,003 | Show three calls from vickery on Saturday | Show three calls from vickery on Saturday |
165 | 00:07:56,071 | 00:07:58,472 | One in the morning and two quick ones later. | One in the morning and two quick ones later. |
166 | 00:07:58,540 | 00:08:00,141 | - It's pretty much what he told us. | - It's pretty much what he told us. |
167 | 00:08:00,208 | 00:08:02,209 | - Yeah. There are calls to her mom. | - Yeah. There are calls to her mom. |
168 | 00:08:02,277 | 00:08:05,479 | Then, she traded a bunch of calls with a no-name cell | Then, she traded a bunch of calls with a no-name cell |
169 | 00:08:05,547 | 00:08:07,648 | With a richmond area code, from mid-afternoon | With a richmond area code, from mid-afternoon |
170 | 00:08:07,716 | 00:08:10,918 | And all through the night Friday and Saturday. | And all through the night Friday and Saturday. |
171 | 00:08:10,986 | 00:08:13,954 | - Calls at one-hour intervals. It's an interesting pattern. | - Calls at one-hour intervals. It's an interesting pattern. |
172 | 00:08:14,022 | 00:08:17,625 | Google this richmond number. | Google this richmond number. |
173 | 00:08:19,795 | 00:08:23,964 | - Well, well. "urban excitement." | - Well, well. "urban excitement." |
174 | 00:08:24,032 | 00:08:25,766 | Looks like justine was strumming more | Looks like justine was strumming more |
175 | 00:08:25,834 | 00:08:27,835 | Than that guitar in her hotel room. | Than that guitar in her hotel room. |
176 | 00:08:27,903 | 00:08:29,904 | - So she had a booker in richmond | - So she had a booker in richmond |
177 | 00:08:29,971 | 00:08:31,639 | Lining up appointments for her. | Lining up appointments for her. |
178 | 00:08:31,706 | 00:08:34,108 | - Have the richmond pd talk to the booker. | - Have the richmond pd talk to the booker. |
179 | 00:08:34,176 | 00:08:35,276 | Find out who had | Find out who had |
180 | 00:08:35,343 | 00:08:37,511 | The last appointment Saturday night. | The last appointment Saturday night. |
181 | 00:08:37,579 | 00:08:39,580 | - Okay. | - Okay. |
182 | 00:08:39,648 | 00:08:43,083 | - All right, thanks. - Hey, check this out. | - All right, thanks. - Hey, check this out. |
183 | 00:08:43,151 | 00:08:45,319 | I found ads going back six months. | I found ads going back six months. |
184 | 00:08:45,387 | 00:08:50,891 | She was in a different city every weekend. | She was in a different city every weekend. |
185 | 00:08:50,959 | 00:08:53,093 | Can't imagine what her mother's gonna think. | Can't imagine what her mother's gonna think. |
186 | 00:08:53,161 | 00:08:55,696 | - Well, the booker said the last appointment | - Well, the booker said the last appointment |
187 | 00:08:55,764 | 00:08:57,331 | Was with a guy named george. | Was with a guy named george. |
188 | 00:08:57,399 | 00:08:59,400 | He called from a no-name 9-1-7 cell phone. | He called from a no-name 9-1-7 cell phone. |
189 | 00:08:59,467 | 00:09:01,468 | And guess what, the call bounced off | And guess what, the call bounced off |
190 | 00:09:01,536 | 00:09:04,138 | The cell towers around chelsea university. | The cell towers around chelsea university. |
191 | 00:09:04,206 | 00:09:06,473 | - It looks like robbie found out what justine did on the side, | - It looks like robbie found out what justine did on the side, |
192 | 00:09:06,541 | 00:09:08,709 | And figured one way or the other, | And figured one way or the other, |
193 | 00:09:08,777 | 00:09:10,144 | He was gonna get a date with her. | He was gonna get a date with her. |
194 | 00:09:10,212 | 00:09:12,980 | - Yeah, well, that gibes with what I got. | - Yeah, well, that gibes with what I got. |
195 | 00:09:13,048 | 00:09:15,983 | D-l-methionine and choline chloride. | D-l-methionine and choline chloride. |
196 | 00:09:16,051 | 00:09:18,185 | Additives they feed to lab rats. | Additives they feed to lab rats. |
197 | 00:09:18,253 | 00:09:22,857 | It was found in a rat turd in her hotel room. | It was found in a rat turd in her hotel room. |
198 | 00:09:22,924 | 00:09:25,593 | It must've come in on robbie's shoe. | It must've come in on robbie's shoe. |
199 | 00:09:25,660 | 00:09:28,429 | - A rat wrangler and a rub-down girl. | - A rat wrangler and a rub-down girl. |
200 | 00:09:28,496 | 00:09:30,064 | Ain't love grand. | Ain't love grand. |
201 | 00:09:31,700 | 00:09:33,801 | - How many times I have to tell you guys, you're supposed | - How many times I have to tell you guys, you're supposed |
202 | 00:09:33,869 | 00:09:37,271 | To feed the rats on schedule, or they get sick! | To feed the rats on schedule, or they get sick! |
203 | 00:09:37,339 | 00:09:40,074 | - Robbie. Put the rat down. | - Robbie. Put the rat down. |
204 | 00:09:40,141 | 00:09:43,477 | Put the rat in the cage, now. | Put the rat in the cage, now. |
205 | 00:09:43,545 | 00:09:45,846 | - You're under arrest, robbie. Put your hands behind your back. | - You're under arrest, robbie. Put your hands behind your back. |
206 | 00:09:45,914 | 00:09:47,314 | - I didn't do anything. | - I didn't do anything. |
207 | 00:09:47,382 | 00:09:50,150 | - Well, then you got nothing to worry about. | - Well, then you got nothing to worry about. |
208 | 00:09:51,318 | 00:09:52,652 | Here we go. | Here we go. |
209 | 00:09:55,350 | 00:09:56,851 | - I swear to god I didn't hurt her. | - I swear to god I didn't hurt her. |
210 | 00:09:56,919 | 00:09:59,787 | I'd never. I respect women. | I'd never. I respect women. |
211 | 00:09:59,855 | 00:10:02,623 | - Yeah, we found some of your [clears throat] | - Yeah, we found some of your [clears throat] |
212 | 00:10:02,691 | 00:10:05,026 | Tokens of respect on your cell phone. | Tokens of respect on your cell phone. |
213 | 00:10:09,331 | 00:10:10,765 | Nice cleavage shot. | Nice cleavage shot. |
214 | 00:10:10,833 | 00:10:13,067 | And then there are the lies you told her. | And then there are the lies you told her. |
215 | 00:10:13,135 | 00:10:15,203 | - We're not unsympathetic, robbie. | - We're not unsympathetic, robbie. |
216 | 00:10:15,270 | 00:10:19,273 | Blue collar guys like us, we need to work a little harder | Blue collar guys like us, we need to work a little harder |
217 | 00:10:19,341 | 00:10:22,210 | To get a girl as pretty as this, am I right? | To get a girl as pretty as this, am I right? |
218 | 00:10:22,277 | 00:10:23,711 | - Yeah, that's for sure. | - Yeah, that's for sure. |
219 | 00:10:23,779 | 00:10:28,950 | - Good. Now let's talk about how you ended up in her room. | - Good. Now let's talk about how you ended up in her room. |
220 | 00:10:29,017 | 00:10:30,551 | - I wasn't in her room. | - I wasn't in her room. |
221 | 00:10:30,619 | 00:10:32,386 | I didn't know she was staying in a hotel. | I didn't know she was staying in a hotel. |
222 | 00:10:32,454 | 00:10:36,257 | - There was a cell phone call from chelsea university | - There was a cell phone call from chelsea university |
223 | 00:10:36,325 | 00:10:38,626 | To her booker. | To her booker. |
224 | 00:10:38,694 | 00:10:41,896 | - Booker? Who are you talking about? | - Booker? Who are you talking about? |
225 | 00:10:44,767 | 00:10:47,668 | - She was spreading her southern hospitality | - She was spreading her southern hospitality |
226 | 00:10:47,736 | 00:10:50,538 | All up and down the eastern seaboard. | All up and down the eastern seaboard. |
227 | 00:10:50,606 | 00:10:53,040 | - Its one thing to be de-balled by someone better than you, | - Its one thing to be de-balled by someone better than you, |
228 | 00:10:53,108 | 00:10:56,110 | But a common whore? | But a common whore? |
229 | 00:10:56,178 | 00:10:57,145 | - It's not true. | - It's not true. |
230 | 00:10:57,212 | 00:10:58,279 | - She's no better | - She's no better |
231 | 00:10:58,347 | 00:11:00,047 | Than those sick rats that you destroyed. | Than those sick rats that you destroyed. |
232 | 00:11:00,115 | 00:11:05,486 | - No, it's all lies. | - No, it's all lies. |
233 | 00:11:05,554 | 00:11:08,055 | I want a lawyer. | I want a lawyer. |
234 | 00:11:09,792 | 00:11:12,660 | - Oh, I'd feel better if your search had turned up the gun, | - Oh, I'd feel better if your search had turned up the gun, |
235 | 00:11:12,728 | 00:11:15,530 | Or the phone he used to book the appointment. | Or the phone he used to book the appointment. |
236 | 00:11:15,597 | 00:11:17,365 | - Well, even without the actual phone, | - Well, even without the actual phone, |
237 | 00:11:17,432 | 00:11:20,401 | We might still be able to tie it to vickery. | We might still be able to tie it to vickery. |
238 | 00:11:20,469 | 00:11:21,936 | Check the calls from that phone. | Check the calls from that phone. |
239 | 00:11:22,004 | 00:11:26,374 | If any are to people who know vickery, we got him. | If any are to people who know vickery, we got him. |
240 | 00:11:28,510 | 00:11:30,178 | - My husband's busy right now. | - My husband's busy right now. |
241 | 00:11:30,245 | 00:11:33,281 | - It's about a call two weeks ago to a number registered | - It's about a call two weeks ago to a number registered |
242 | 00:11:33,348 | 00:11:34,649 | To cold stone limited. | To cold stone limited. |
243 | 00:11:34,716 | 00:11:36,717 | - That's our telemarketing business. | - That's our telemarketing business. |
244 | 00:11:36,785 | 00:11:39,854 | - All right, well we need to know who made that phone call. | - All right, well we need to know who made that phone call. |
245 | 00:11:39,922 | 00:11:41,989 | - Sorry, our computer's down. | - Sorry, our computer's down. |
246 | 00:11:42,057 | 00:11:44,992 | - What exactly do you telemarket? | - What exactly do you telemarket? |
247 | 00:11:45,060 | 00:11:46,227 | - Is everything okay, sweetie? | - Is everything okay, sweetie? |
248 | 00:11:46,295 | 00:11:47,662 | - We were just asking your wife | - We were just asking your wife |
249 | 00:11:47,729 | 00:11:49,430 | About a telephone call made two weeks ago | About a telephone call made two weeks ago |
250 | 00:11:49,498 | 00:11:52,033 | From this number. | From this number. |
251 | 00:11:53,335 | 00:11:55,002 | - Must have been a wrong number. | - Must have been a wrong number. |
252 | 00:11:55,070 | 00:11:59,273 | - Yeah? Those injuries to your face, | - Yeah? Those injuries to your face, |
253 | 00:11:59,341 | 00:12:02,977 | They look about two weeks old, just like that call. | They look about two weeks old, just like that call. |
254 | 00:12:06,481 | 00:12:08,683 | - Every couple of weekends, our kids go | - Every couple of weekends, our kids go |
255 | 00:12:08,750 | 00:12:11,118 | Stay with my parents, and we get a room in the city. | Stay with my parents, and we get a room in the city. |
256 | 00:12:11,186 | 00:12:14,422 | We put an ad out on urban excitement. | We put an ad out on urban excitement. |
257 | 00:12:14,489 | 00:12:16,057 | Bruce takes the bookings. | Bruce takes the bookings. |
258 | 00:12:16,124 | 00:12:17,592 | - It's not our profession, you know. | - It's not our profession, you know. |
259 | 00:12:17,659 | 00:12:19,727 | But, my hours got cut back. | But, my hours got cut back. |
260 | 00:12:19,795 | 00:12:22,530 | Anyway, this guy george called from that number. | Anyway, this guy george called from that number. |
261 | 00:12:22,598 | 00:12:24,799 | He asked if the appointment was in a hotel. | He asked if the appointment was in a hotel. |
262 | 00:12:24,867 | 00:12:25,967 | He said that's what suited him. | He said that's what suited him. |
263 | 00:12:26,034 | 00:12:28,102 | - What happened when he showed up? | - What happened when he showed up? |
264 | 00:12:28,170 | 00:12:29,804 | - Right away he was waving a gun, | - Right away he was waving a gun, |
265 | 00:12:29,872 | 00:12:31,572 | He put me face down on the bed. | He put me face down on the bed. |
266 | 00:12:31,640 | 00:12:32,807 | - Can you describe him? | - Can you describe him? |
267 | 00:12:32,875 | 00:12:34,008 | - I didn't get a good look. | - I didn't get a good look. |
268 | 00:12:34,076 | 00:12:36,410 | White. Young. Tinted glasses. | White. Young. Tinted glasses. |
269 | 00:12:36,478 | 00:12:38,512 | Had a baseball cap that said poconos on it or something. | Had a baseball cap that said poconos on it or something. |
270 | 00:12:38,580 | 00:12:42,383 | - Hm. What happened next? | - Hm. What happened next? |
271 | 00:12:42,451 | 00:12:45,653 | - He tied me up with these plastic ties. | - He tied me up with these plastic ties. |
272 | 00:12:45,721 | 00:12:48,723 | Then he emptied my purse. Then he tried to gag me. | Then he emptied my purse. Then he tried to gag me. |
273 | 00:12:48,790 | 00:12:51,025 | And I knew if I let him, I was dead. | And I knew if I let him, I was dead. |
274 | 00:12:51,093 | 00:12:54,528 | I kicked and I screamed. He hit me. | I kicked and I screamed. He hit me. |
275 | 00:12:54,596 | 00:12:57,265 | And then he ran out. | And then he ran out. |
276 | 00:12:57,332 | 00:13:01,702 | - You guys wait here. | - You guys wait here. |
277 | 00:13:01,770 | 00:13:04,138 | She couldn't I.D. Vickery's photo. | She couldn't I.D. Vickery's photo. |
278 | 00:13:04,206 | 00:13:07,708 | - Well, this attack seems like it was about money, not revenge, | - Well, this attack seems like it was about money, not revenge, |
279 | 00:13:07,776 | 00:13:09,810 | Which points away from vickery. | Which points away from vickery. |
280 | 00:13:09,878 | 00:13:12,747 | What about those other calls from that no-name cell? | What about those other calls from that no-name cell? |
281 | 00:13:12,814 | 00:13:15,583 | - Well, dead ends or the numbers come back to escort ads. | - Well, dead ends or the numbers come back to escort ads. |
282 | 00:13:15,651 | 00:13:18,552 | Whoever was using that phone was targeting escorts. | Whoever was using that phone was targeting escorts. |
283 | 00:13:18,620 | 00:13:20,621 | - Show me the location of the towers | - Show me the location of the towers |
284 | 00:13:20,689 | 00:13:22,590 | Where the calls originated. | Where the calls originated. |
285 | 00:13:22,658 | 00:13:26,360 | - Most bounced off a tower near vickery's job. | - Most bounced off a tower near vickery's job. |
286 | 00:13:26,428 | 00:13:28,462 | Some in brooklyn. | Some in brooklyn. |
287 | 00:13:28,530 | 00:13:31,265 | - Yeah, look at this cluster of calls here | - Yeah, look at this cluster of calls here |
288 | 00:13:31,333 | 00:13:32,934 | In norwich, connecticut. | In norwich, connecticut. |
289 | 00:13:33,001 | 00:13:35,169 | - Yeah, all the same weekend, three weeks ago. | - Yeah, all the same weekend, three weeks ago. |
290 | 00:13:35,237 | 00:13:37,939 | - And norwich has the indian casino. | - And norwich has the indian casino. |
291 | 00:13:38,006 | 00:13:40,675 | - Which has surveillance video. | - Which has surveillance video. |
292 | 00:13:43,211 | 00:13:44,178 | - Yes, that's me. | - Yes, that's me. |
293 | 00:13:44,246 | 00:13:46,847 | I was at the casino with my fiance. | I was at the casino with my fiance. |
294 | 00:13:46,915 | 00:13:48,516 | How did you find me? | How did you find me? |
295 | 00:13:48,583 | 00:13:49,717 | - Your credit card. | - Your credit card. |
296 | 00:13:49,785 | 00:13:51,552 | We would have talked to your fiance first, | We would have talked to your fiance first, |
297 | 00:13:51,620 | 00:13:53,621 | But the casino didn't know who he was. | But the casino didn't know who he was. |
298 | 00:13:53,689 | 00:13:54,889 | - We're just assisting the norwich police | - We're just assisting the norwich police |
299 | 00:13:54,957 | 00:13:56,257 | In an investigation. | In an investigation. |
300 | 00:13:56,325 | 00:13:58,759 | A woman was assaulted in the washroom in the lounge | A woman was assaulted in the washroom in the lounge |
301 | 00:13:58,827 | 00:14:00,061 | The evening you were there. | The evening you were there. |
302 | 00:14:00,128 | 00:14:02,430 | Did you see anyone in the area? | Did you see anyone in the area? |
303 | 00:14:02,497 | 00:14:04,365 | - No, I didn't use the washroom. | - No, I didn't use the washroom. |
304 | 00:14:04,433 | 00:14:06,100 | - Maybe your fiance did. | - Maybe your fiance did. |
305 | 00:14:06,168 | 00:14:07,768 | - No, we were together all evening. | - No, we were together all evening. |
306 | 00:14:07,836 | 00:14:09,170 | - Oh. | - Oh. |
307 | 00:14:09,237 | 00:14:11,906 | Well, all the same, miss newton, we told the norwich police | Well, all the same, miss newton, we told the norwich police |
308 | 00:14:11,974 | 00:14:13,407 | We'd talk to everybody. | We'd talk to everybody. |
309 | 00:14:13,475 | 00:14:14,875 | - My fiance's very busy, | - My fiance's very busy, |
310 | 00:14:14,943 | 00:14:17,345 | But if you give me your card, I'll pass him the message. | But if you give me your card, I'll pass him the message. |
311 | 00:14:24,553 | 00:14:25,586 | - When's the big day? | - When's the big day? |
312 | 00:14:25,654 | 00:14:28,756 | - Two months. | - Two months. |
313 | 00:14:28,824 | 00:14:30,324 | It's like a fairy tale. | It's like a fairy tale. |
314 | 00:14:30,392 | 00:14:32,393 | - Hmm. | - Hmm. |
315 | 00:14:34,629 | 00:14:35,763 | - They aren't even married, | - They aren't even married, |
316 | 00:14:35,831 | 00:14:37,631 | And already she has him under lock and key. | And already she has him under lock and key. |
317 | 00:14:37,699 | 00:14:39,400 | - Hey, hold up a second. | - Hey, hold up a second. |
318 | 00:14:42,904 | 00:14:45,606 | - Hi, this is carrie newton's uncle joe. | - Hi, this is carrie newton's uncle joe. |
319 | 00:14:45,674 | 00:14:47,708 | Hi--no, I don't want to bother her. | Hi--no, I don't want to bother her. |
320 | 00:14:47,776 | 00:14:50,277 | I'm just--I'm wondering where she's registered. | I'm just--I'm wondering where she's registered. |
321 | 00:14:50,345 | 00:14:55,016 | Right...And her fiance, what's his name? | Right...And her fiance, what's his name? |
322 | 00:14:55,083 | 00:14:57,084 | Alex conway. Right, of course. | Alex conway. Right, of course. |
323 | 00:14:57,152 | 00:15:00,855 | And, I wanna get him something besides, uh, pots and pans, | And, I wanna get him something besides, uh, pots and pans, |
324 | 00:15:00,922 | 00:15:02,656 | You know, something for his office, maybe. | You know, something for his office, maybe. |
325 | 00:15:02,724 | 00:15:04,658 | And carrie told me what he does, and I don't remember. | And carrie told me what he does, and I don't remember. |
326 | 00:15:04,726 | 00:15:06,160 | What was it? | What was it? |
327 | 00:15:06,228 | 00:15:08,763 | Right, right. Okay. | Right, right. Okay. |
328 | 00:15:08,830 | 00:15:11,866 | Uh, that's--you know what, no need to tell carrie I called. | Uh, that's--you know what, no need to tell carrie I called. |
329 | 00:15:11,933 | 00:15:13,868 | Thank you. | Thank you. |
330 | 00:15:13,935 | 00:15:16,704 | Grad student in behavioral science. | Grad student in behavioral science. |
331 | 00:15:16,772 | 00:15:18,839 | Guess who he shares a microscope with? | Guess who he shares a microscope with? |
332 | 00:15:18,907 | 00:15:21,709 | - I don't see how answering your questions helps my client. | - I don't see how answering your questions helps my client. |
333 | 00:15:21,777 | 00:15:23,811 | - Not answering them definitely won't help him. | - Not answering them definitely won't help him. |
334 | 00:15:23,879 | 00:15:26,080 | - That weekend, did you talk about justine | - That weekend, did you talk about justine |
335 | 00:15:26,148 | 00:15:27,415 | With anybody at the lab? | With anybody at the lab? |
336 | 00:15:27,482 | 00:15:29,450 | - Yeah, after I got back from the museum. | - Yeah, after I got back from the museum. |
337 | 00:15:29,518 | 00:15:31,018 | I talked to some students. | I talked to some students. |
338 | 00:15:31,086 | 00:15:33,687 | They're always bragging about their hook-ups. | They're always bragging about their hook-ups. |
339 | 00:15:33,755 | 00:15:37,291 | - Which students, specifically? | - Which students, specifically? |
340 | 00:15:37,359 | 00:15:39,994 | - Atul khana, jason chai, they're med students. | - Atul khana, jason chai, they're med students. |
341 | 00:15:40,062 | 00:15:42,363 | And alex conway, he's a grad student. | And alex conway, he's a grad student. |
342 | 00:15:42,431 | 00:15:43,597 | - What did you tell them? | - What did you tell them? |
343 | 00:15:43,665 | 00:15:44,899 | - I showed them my pictures of justine. | - I showed them my pictures of justine. |
344 | 00:15:44,966 | 00:15:47,601 | I told them I got lucky with her. | I told them I got lucky with her. |
345 | 00:15:47,669 | 00:15:49,236 | - How'd they react? | - How'd they react? |
346 | 00:15:49,304 | 00:15:52,706 | - Atul and jason, uh, they asked me | - Atul and jason, uh, they asked me |
347 | 00:15:52,774 | 00:15:55,342 | If I squeaked when I was doing it with her. | If I squeaked when I was doing it with her. |
348 | 00:15:55,410 | 00:15:57,778 | - What about this alex conway? | - What about this alex conway? |
349 | 00:15:57,846 | 00:16:00,147 | - He kept looking at my pictures of justine. | - He kept looking at my pictures of justine. |
350 | 00:16:00,215 | 00:16:01,782 | He thought she was hot. | He thought she was hot. |
351 | 00:16:01,850 | 00:16:07,021 | He said, good for me. What a phony. | He said, good for me. What a phony. |
352 | 00:16:07,089 | 00:16:10,424 | - Well, if conway was trolling escort ads on the net, | - Well, if conway was trolling escort ads on the net, |
353 | 00:16:10,492 | 00:16:12,059 | He would've seen justine's ad. | He would've seen justine's ad. |
354 | 00:16:12,127 | 00:16:14,829 | And he would've recognized her picture on vickery's phone. | And he would've recognized her picture on vickery's phone. |
355 | 00:16:14,896 | 00:16:16,597 | - He figures she was working out of a hotel. | - He figures she was working out of a hotel. |
356 | 00:16:16,665 | 00:16:17,932 | Perfect mark for a rip-off. | Perfect mark for a rip-off. |
357 | 00:16:17,999 | 00:16:20,468 | Conway likes gambling. Gambling costs money. | Conway likes gambling. Gambling costs money. |
358 | 00:16:20,535 | 00:16:23,671 | This is a grad student from a prestigious university, | This is a grad student from a prestigious university, |
359 | 00:16:23,738 | 00:16:26,140 | I mean, a researcher with no criminal record. | I mean, a researcher with no criminal record. |
360 | 00:16:26,208 | 00:16:29,543 | Listen, prove that no-name cell belongs to conway. | Listen, prove that no-name cell belongs to conway. |
361 | 00:16:29,611 | 00:16:31,178 | Then you can bring him in. | Then you can bring him in. |
362 | 00:16:31,246 | 00:16:33,747 | - Right. | - Right. |
363 | 00:16:36,084 | 00:16:39,086 | Hm, got the latest dumps off the no-name cell. | Hm, got the latest dumps off the no-name cell. |
364 | 00:16:39,154 | 00:16:42,857 | Mostly text messages, every night for the last week. | Mostly text messages, every night for the last week. |
365 | 00:16:42,924 | 00:16:45,392 | Huh...All to an internet messaging service. | Huh...All to an internet messaging service. |
366 | 00:16:45,460 | 00:16:49,096 | He was using his cell to chat with somebody online. | He was using his cell to chat with somebody online. |
367 | 00:16:49,164 | 00:16:52,166 | - He has a text buddy. | - He has a text buddy. |
368 | 00:16:52,234 | 00:16:56,670 | We get a warrant, maybe we can be his buddy too. | We get a warrant, maybe we can be his buddy too. |
369 | 00:16:59,207 | 00:17:03,210 | - "you're all talk, lady. Show me something." | - "you're all talk, lady. Show me something." |
370 | 00:17:03,278 | 00:17:06,413 | "what do you want to see?" | "what do you want to see?" |
371 | 00:17:06,481 | 00:17:09,016 | "anything to get me off right now." | "anything to get me off right now." |
372 | 00:17:09,084 | 00:17:10,818 | - You know, we have a voice-text function. | - You know, we have a voice-text function. |
373 | 00:17:10,886 | 00:17:12,753 | - Yes, please. | - Yes, please. |
374 | 00:17:14,756 | 00:17:17,091 | Female voice: Pictures en route, tiger. | Female voice: Pictures en route, tiger. |
375 | 00:17:17,159 | 00:17:21,095 | - Let's see what she sent him. | - Let's see what she sent him. |
376 | 00:17:21,163 | 00:17:23,931 | - Damn. She's a tranny. | - Damn. She's a tranny. |
377 | 00:17:23,999 | 00:17:26,267 | Male voice: You got my attention now. | Male voice: You got my attention now. |
378 | 00:17:26,334 | 00:17:28,402 | Female voice: We've been talking for a week. | Female voice: We've been talking for a week. |
379 | 00:17:28,470 | 00:17:30,838 | When are we finally gonna to get together? | When are we finally gonna to get together? |
380 | 00:17:30,906 | 00:17:33,674 | Male voice: Soon. | Male voice: Soon. |
381 | 00:17:33,742 | 00:17:34,942 | Female voice: This is a waste of time. | Female voice: This is a waste of time. |
382 | 00:17:35,010 | 00:17:37,878 | When you decide what you want, let me know. | When you decide what you want, let me know. |
383 | 00:17:37,946 | 00:17:39,146 | - Damn, she hung up. | - Damn, she hung up. |
384 | 00:17:39,214 | 00:17:41,882 | - Can we pretend we're her and hit him back. | - Can we pretend we're her and hit him back. |
385 | 00:17:41,950 | 00:17:43,217 | - No problem. | - No problem. |
386 | 00:17:45,820 | 00:17:49,190 | - Sorry for the attitude. | - Sorry for the attitude. |
387 | 00:17:49,257 | 00:17:53,093 | It's just you tease me too much. | It's just you tease me too much. |
388 | 00:17:53,161 | 00:17:58,032 | I don't even know what you look like. | I don't even know what you look like. |
389 | 00:17:58,099 | 00:18:01,769 | I want to see your eyes. | I want to see your eyes. |
390 | 00:18:04,472 | 00:18:08,776 | Male voice: You'll see my eyes when we meet. | Male voice: You'll see my eyes when we meet. |
391 | 00:18:08,843 | 00:18:11,445 | - I want to be tied up. | - I want to be tied up. |
392 | 00:18:11,513 | 00:18:14,982 | No sissy velvet ropes. | No sissy velvet ropes. |
393 | 00:18:18,220 | 00:18:20,154 | Male voice: How about plastic ties? | Male voice: How about plastic ties? |
394 | 00:18:20,222 | 00:18:23,857 | I will treat you like the piece of garbage you are. | I will treat you like the piece of garbage you are. |
395 | 00:18:23,925 | 00:18:27,061 | - Let me see. | - Let me see. |
396 | 00:18:27,128 | 00:18:31,432 | Let's make it happen in an hour. | Let's make it happen in an hour. |
397 | 00:18:31,499 | 00:18:36,470 | Bodega on tenth and avenue c. | Bodega on tenth and avenue c. |
398 | 00:18:40,408 | 00:18:41,942 | Male voice: Deal. | Male voice: Deal. |
399 | 00:18:42,010 | 00:18:45,112 | An hour. I'll be there. | An hour. I'll be there. |
400 | 00:18:45,180 | 00:18:47,915 | - Our boy's into some serious strange. | - Our boy's into some serious strange. |
401 | 00:18:47,983 | 00:18:51,385 | - I don't know. - What? | - I don't know. - What? |
402 | 00:18:51,453 | 00:18:53,254 | You don't think that's strange? | You don't think that's strange? |
403 | 00:18:53,321 | 00:18:54,488 | - I just think it's interesting, | - I just think it's interesting, |
404 | 00:18:54,556 | 00:18:56,323 | How people are wired differently. | How people are wired differently. |
405 | 00:18:56,391 | 00:18:58,359 | - [laughs] okay. | - [laughs] okay. |
406 | 00:18:58,426 | 00:19:01,895 | Time to check mr. Conway's wiring. | Time to check mr. Conway's wiring. |
407 | 00:19:05,000 | 00:19:07,668 | Alex conway! Alex! | Alex conway! Alex! |
408 | 00:19:09,404 | 00:19:10,938 | You're under arrest. | You're under arrest. |
409 | 00:19:11,006 | 00:19:12,439 | - For what? Just going to the store. | - For what? Just going to the store. |
410 | 00:19:12,507 | 00:19:15,442 | - Not anymore. | - Not anymore. |
411 | 00:19:15,510 | 00:19:17,411 | - What's this? | - What's this? |
412 | 00:19:17,479 | 00:19:19,513 | Plastic cable ties and a pre-paid cell phone? | Plastic cable ties and a pre-paid cell phone? |
413 | 00:19:19,581 | 00:19:22,549 | What else you got? | What else you got? |
414 | 00:19:22,617 | 00:19:24,652 | And a .22. - I'll take him. | And a .22. - I'll take him. |
415 | 00:19:24,719 | 00:19:26,520 | - Leave him alone. He didn't do anything! | - Leave him alone. He didn't do anything! |
416 | 00:19:26,588 | 00:19:28,289 | - Ma'am, I need you to step back, please. | - Ma'am, I need you to step back, please. |
417 | 00:19:28,356 | 00:19:30,491 | - No, this is a mistake. He's a scientist. | - No, this is a mistake. He's a scientist. |
418 | 00:19:30,558 | 00:19:34,061 | - Lupo. | - Lupo. |
419 | 00:19:34,129 | 00:19:38,932 | This .22... It's a pellet gun. | This .22... It's a pellet gun. |
420 | 00:19:55,024 | 00:19:58,894 | - That's the girl vickery-- dr. Vickery, was bragging about. | - That's the girl vickery-- dr. Vickery, was bragging about. |
421 | 00:19:58,961 | 00:20:00,465 | I never met her. | I never met her. |
422 | 00:20:03,232 | 00:20:05,067 | Her I met. In a hotel room. | Her I met. In a hotel room. |
423 | 00:20:05,134 | 00:20:07,469 | When I told her I just wanted to interview her | When I told her I just wanted to interview her |
424 | 00:20:07,537 | 00:20:08,670 | And I only had fifty bucks, | And I only had fifty bucks, |
425 | 00:20:08,738 | 00:20:10,872 | She zooed on me, threatened to get me in trouble. | She zooed on me, threatened to get me in trouble. |
426 | 00:20:10,940 | 00:20:14,042 | - You booked an escort to interview her. | - You booked an escort to interview her. |
427 | 00:20:14,110 | 00:20:16,111 | - Sometimes I have to use deception | - Sometimes I have to use deception |
428 | 00:20:16,179 | 00:20:17,479 | To get people to sit down with me. | To get people to sit down with me. |
429 | 00:20:17,547 | 00:20:20,715 | But, that's the nature of my research. | But, that's the nature of my research. |
430 | 00:20:20,783 | 00:20:23,185 | - What about transsexuals, alex? | - What about transsexuals, alex? |
431 | 00:20:25,288 | 00:20:27,289 | Research, or fun? | Research, or fun? |
432 | 00:20:27,356 | 00:20:29,825 | I study the neurological basis | I study the neurological basis |
433 | 00:20:29,892 | 00:20:31,927 | Of non-traditional sexual behavior. | Of non-traditional sexual behavior. |
434 | 00:20:31,994 | 00:20:33,361 | So, I interview | So, I interview |
435 | 00:20:33,429 | 00:20:36,798 | As many promiscuous people as possible. | As many promiscuous people as possible. |
436 | 00:20:36,866 | 00:20:38,467 | It can get dicey, | It can get dicey, |
437 | 00:20:38,534 | 00:20:39,768 | So that's why I bring the pellet gun. | So that's why I bring the pellet gun. |
438 | 00:20:39,836 | 00:20:41,870 | And those plastic ties you were carrying? | And those plastic ties you were carrying? |
439 | 00:20:41,938 | 00:20:43,738 | What part of your research is that? | What part of your research is that? |
440 | 00:20:43,806 | 00:20:46,174 | I brought them as a token of good faith, | I brought them as a token of good faith, |
441 | 00:20:46,242 | 00:20:49,611 | Because I was asked to. | Because I was asked to. |
442 | 00:20:49,679 | 00:20:52,280 | The cell phone that you had, | The cell phone that you had, |
443 | 00:20:52,348 | 00:20:54,916 | That connects you to the murder of justine stebbins. | That connects you to the murder of justine stebbins. |
444 | 00:20:54,984 | 00:20:56,651 | - Well, I use that so my interview subjects | - Well, I use that so my interview subjects |
445 | 00:20:56,719 | 00:20:57,919 | Can't get ahold of me. | Can't get ahold of me. |
446 | 00:20:57,987 | 00:21:01,089 | I keep it on my desk, at the lab. | I keep it on my desk, at the lab. |
447 | 00:21:01,157 | 00:21:04,893 | Everybody uses it. | Everybody uses it. |
448 | 00:21:04,961 | 00:21:07,529 | He was meeting a transsexual for his research. | He was meeting a transsexual for his research. |
449 | 00:21:07,597 | 00:21:09,364 | He said if I didn't hear from him in an hour, | He said if I didn't hear from him in an hour, |
450 | 00:21:09,432 | 00:21:11,500 | I should call 911. | I should call 911. |
451 | 00:21:11,567 | 00:21:15,036 | Alex is a great person and a brilliant scientist. | Alex is a great person and a brilliant scientist. |
452 | 00:21:15,104 | 00:21:16,438 | He would never hurt anyone. | He would never hurt anyone. |
453 | 00:21:16,506 | 00:21:18,406 | - You know he's seeing prostitutes? | - You know he's seeing prostitutes? |
454 | 00:21:18,474 | 00:21:19,774 | - For his research. | - For his research. |
455 | 00:21:19,842 | 00:21:23,245 | - One of those prostitutes accused him of robbing her. | - One of those prostitutes accused him of robbing her. |
456 | 00:21:23,312 | 00:21:24,779 | - That's a lie. | - That's a lie. |
457 | 00:21:24,847 | 00:21:26,181 | My dad owns a chain of laundromats. | My dad owns a chain of laundromats. |
458 | 00:21:26,249 | 00:21:27,282 | We don't need money. | We don't need money. |
459 | 00:21:27,350 | 00:21:29,451 | - Except alex likes to gamble. | - Except alex likes to gamble. |
460 | 00:21:29,519 | 00:21:31,853 | - We go to the indian casinos together | - We go to the indian casinos together |
461 | 00:21:31,921 | 00:21:34,222 | Once or twice a month, maybe. | Once or twice a month, maybe. |
462 | 00:21:34,290 | 00:21:37,993 | - Saturday night two weeks ago, where were you? | - Saturday night two weeks ago, where were you? |
463 | 00:21:38,060 | 00:21:39,928 | - Home with alex. | - Home with alex. |
464 | 00:21:39,996 | 00:21:43,198 | We spent the night making the guest list for our wedding. | We spent the night making the guest list for our wedding. |
465 | 00:21:43,266 | 00:21:45,133 | - Conway must have made us when we were texting him. | - Conway must have made us when we were texting him. |
466 | 00:21:45,201 | 00:21:46,268 | He set a trap. | He set a trap. |
467 | 00:21:46,335 | 00:21:47,402 | - We walked right into it. | - We walked right into it. |
468 | 00:21:47,470 | 00:21:49,037 | The pellet gun, the explanations for everything, | The pellet gun, the explanations for everything, |
469 | 00:21:49,105 | 00:21:50,705 | The fiancee there to vouch for him. | The fiancee there to vouch for him. |
470 | 00:21:50,773 | 00:21:51,907 | - What about this fiancee, | - What about this fiancee, |
471 | 00:21:51,974 | 00:21:52,974 | Can we get through to her? | Can we get through to her? |
472 | 00:21:53,042 | 00:21:55,110 | - She thinks he walks on water. | - She thinks he walks on water. |
473 | 00:21:55,178 | 00:21:57,345 | - The search of his place turned up nothing. | - The search of his place turned up nothing. |
474 | 00:21:57,413 | 00:21:58,947 | He's coming up for arraignment this afternoon. | He's coming up for arraignment this afternoon. |
475 | 00:21:59,015 | 00:22:00,448 | I'm not sure we have enough to hold him. | I'm not sure we have enough to hold him. |
476 | 00:22:00,516 | 00:22:03,285 | - I'm not sure we should hold him. | - I'm not sure we should hold him. |
477 | 00:22:03,352 | 00:22:05,053 | Mr. Conway's a clever boy. | Mr. Conway's a clever boy. |
478 | 00:22:05,121 | 00:22:06,354 | Maybe the thing to do here | Maybe the thing to do here |
479 | 00:22:06,422 | 00:22:09,624 | Is to let him keep thinking he's clever. | Is to let him keep thinking he's clever. |
480 | 00:22:11,694 | 00:22:13,695 | - $5 million bail? | - $5 million bail? |
481 | 00:22:13,763 | 00:22:16,031 | My client's a respected academic with no priors. | My client's a respected academic with no priors. |
482 | 00:22:16,098 | 00:22:17,632 | It's simple mistaken identity. | It's simple mistaken identity. |
483 | 00:22:17,700 | 00:22:19,267 | - The defendant's fingerprints were found | - The defendant's fingerprints were found |
484 | 00:22:19,335 | 00:22:21,069 | In the victim's hotel room, judge. | In the victim's hotel room, judge. |
485 | 00:22:21,137 | 00:22:23,238 | If he wants to argue sufficiency of the evidence, | If he wants to argue sufficiency of the evidence, |
486 | 00:22:23,306 | 00:22:24,606 | He can do it at trial. | He can do it at trial. |
487 | 00:22:24,674 | 00:22:26,208 | - Excuse me, judge. | - Excuse me, judge. |
488 | 00:22:26,275 | 00:22:27,609 | My name's oscar newton, | My name's oscar newton, |
489 | 00:22:27,677 | 00:22:30,111 | And my daughter is engaged to mr. Conway, | And my daughter is engaged to mr. Conway, |
490 | 00:22:30,179 | 00:22:32,547 | And I believe in this young man. | And I believe in this young man. |
491 | 00:22:32,615 | 00:22:35,684 | But we're only able to post $3 million bail at this time. | But we're only able to post $3 million bail at this time. |
492 | 00:22:35,751 | 00:22:39,554 | - Sir, you are not allowed to speak. | - Sir, you are not allowed to speak. |
493 | 00:22:39,622 | 00:22:43,124 | Mr. Cutter, are we boring you here? | Mr. Cutter, are we boring you here? |
494 | 00:22:43,192 | 00:22:44,359 | - Sorry, judge. | - Sorry, judge. |
495 | 00:22:44,427 | 00:22:47,262 | The, um, people need to amend the information. | The, um, people need to amend the information. |
496 | 00:22:47,330 | 00:22:48,697 | I've just been informed | I've just been informed |
497 | 00:22:48,764 | 00:22:51,800 | That the fingerprint match I alluded to | That the fingerprint match I alluded to |
498 | 00:22:51,867 | 00:22:53,368 | Wasn't borne out by a re-test. | Wasn't borne out by a re-test. |
499 | 00:22:53,436 | 00:22:55,637 | But our other evidence is still compelling. | But our other evidence is still compelling. |
500 | 00:22:55,705 | 00:22:58,807 | - Dream on. Defendant is released r.O.R. | - Dream on. Defendant is released r.O.R. |
501 | 00:22:58,874 | 00:22:59,941 | [bangs gavel] | [bangs gavel] |
502 | 00:23:02,078 | 00:23:03,311 | - Well, he's not dumb. | - Well, he's not dumb. |
503 | 00:23:03,379 | 00:23:04,613 | He's gotta figure we'll be watching him. | He's gotta figure we'll be watching him. |
504 | 00:23:04,680 | 00:23:07,148 | - Not dumb, but reckless. | - Not dumb, but reckless. |
505 | 00:23:07,216 | 00:23:09,818 | He's a gambler who robs escorts in hotels. | He's a gambler who robs escorts in hotels. |
506 | 00:23:09,885 | 00:23:13,355 | He likes to take risks. Let's prime the pump. | He likes to take risks. Let's prime the pump. |
507 | 00:23:13,422 | 00:23:15,323 | How's mr. Vickery doing these days? | How's mr. Vickery doing these days? |
508 | 00:23:15,391 | 00:23:16,891 | - Tired of sitting in jail. | - Tired of sitting in jail. |
509 | 00:23:16,959 | 00:23:20,295 | - Good, let's offer him a way out. | - Good, let's offer him a way out. |
510 | 00:23:22,665 | 00:23:25,033 | - So they let you out too, huh? | - So they let you out too, huh? |
511 | 00:23:25,101 | 00:23:26,901 | - You know I didn't do anything. | - You know I didn't do anything. |
512 | 00:23:26,969 | 00:23:28,703 | - Whatever you say. | - Whatever you say. |
513 | 00:23:28,771 | 00:23:30,238 | I need f-4 and f-5 prepped for dissection. | I need f-4 and f-5 prepped for dissection. |
514 | 00:23:30,306 | 00:23:32,974 | - Hey, uh... | - Hey, uh... |
515 | 00:23:33,042 | 00:23:35,310 | You know, you want help with that thing, | You know, you want help with that thing, |
516 | 00:23:35,378 | 00:23:38,513 | I mean, anything you want me to tell the cops... | I mean, anything you want me to tell the cops... |
517 | 00:23:38,581 | 00:23:40,448 | - Excuse me? | - Excuse me? |
518 | 00:23:40,516 | 00:23:41,716 | - I mean, not that you did anything, | - I mean, not that you did anything, |
519 | 00:23:41,784 | 00:23:44,753 | But if, you know, you want me to cover for you-- | But if, you know, you want me to cover for you-- |
520 | 00:23:44,820 | 00:23:47,022 | - Vickery, even if I did have something | - Vickery, even if I did have something |
521 | 00:23:47,089 | 00:23:50,625 | To worry about, which I don't, | To worry about, which I don't, |
522 | 00:23:50,693 | 00:23:55,630 | Do you think I would let a bug like you watch my back? | Do you think I would let a bug like you watch my back? |
523 | 00:23:55,698 | 00:23:58,566 | - You know, I've watched your back plenty! | - You know, I've watched your back plenty! |
524 | 00:23:58,634 | 00:24:01,603 | That Monday after thanksgiving? Oh, your experiments? | That Monday after thanksgiving? Oh, your experiments? |
525 | 00:24:01,671 | 00:24:03,238 | After you set them up, | After you set them up, |
526 | 00:24:03,306 | 00:24:04,472 | You disappeared for the rest of the night. | You disappeared for the rest of the night. |
527 | 00:24:04,540 | 00:24:07,842 | I had to enter the data for you. | I had to enter the data for you. |
528 | 00:24:07,910 | 00:24:10,078 | And the next Monday, you pulled the same crap. | And the next Monday, you pulled the same crap. |
529 | 00:24:10,146 | 00:24:12,814 | I covered your back. | I covered your back. |
530 | 00:24:12,882 | 00:24:14,516 | I always cover everyone's back. | I always cover everyone's back. |
531 | 00:24:17,987 | 00:24:21,156 | - Just get my rats ready. | - Just get my rats ready. |
532 | 00:24:21,223 | 00:24:22,991 | - And the next Monday, | - And the next Monday, |
533 | 00:24:23,059 | 00:24:24,492 | You pulled the same crap! | You pulled the same crap! |
534 | 00:24:24,560 | 00:24:26,127 | I covered your back! | I covered your back! |
535 | 00:24:26,195 | 00:24:29,531 | - The instructions were to get mr. Conway to talk. | - The instructions were to get mr. Conway to talk. |
536 | 00:24:29,598 | 00:24:30,932 | Not to go off on him. | Not to go off on him. |
537 | 00:24:31,000 | 00:24:32,867 | - Mr. Vickery held up his end of the bargain. | - Mr. Vickery held up his end of the bargain. |
538 | 00:24:32,935 | 00:24:34,202 | I expect you to hold up yours, | I expect you to hold up yours, |
539 | 00:24:34,270 | 00:24:36,638 | And file for dismissal of all charges. | And file for dismissal of all charges. |
540 | 00:24:39,442 | 00:24:41,576 | - All right. | - All right. |
541 | 00:24:49,385 | 00:24:51,119 | - That worked like a charm. | - That worked like a charm. |
542 | 00:24:51,187 | 00:24:52,487 | - Vickery said conway was awol | - Vickery said conway was awol |
543 | 00:24:52,555 | 00:24:55,390 | The first two mondays after thanksgiving, right? | The first two mondays after thanksgiving, right? |
544 | 00:24:55,458 | 00:24:56,991 | - Yeah, awol all night. | - Yeah, awol all night. |
545 | 00:24:57,059 | 00:24:58,426 | - A guy like him, I'd like to know where he was. | - A guy like him, I'd like to know where he was. |
546 | 00:24:58,494 | 00:25:01,963 | - Yeah, I got his credit card records here. | - Yeah, I got his credit card records here. |
547 | 00:25:02,031 | 00:25:03,531 | Yeah, on the first Monday, | Yeah, on the first Monday, |
548 | 00:25:03,599 | 00:25:07,836 | He's got a charge at a newsstand at penn station at 8:45 p.M., | He's got a charge at a newsstand at penn station at 8:45 p.M., |
549 | 00:25:07,903 | 00:25:09,504 | And on the second Monday, | And on the second Monday, |
550 | 00:25:09,572 | 00:25:10,839 | There's another charge at penn station. | There's another charge at penn station. |
551 | 00:25:10,906 | 00:25:12,841 | A snack bar, 8:50 p.M. | A snack bar, 8:50 p.M. |
552 | 00:25:12,908 | 00:25:14,542 | - He was taking a train. | - He was taking a train. |
553 | 00:25:14,610 | 00:25:20,014 | - Gotta be the 8:53 express to atlantic city. | - Gotta be the 8:53 express to atlantic city. |
554 | 00:25:20,082 | 00:25:21,816 | You go to enough bachelor parties in a.C., | You go to enough bachelor parties in a.C., |
555 | 00:25:21,884 | 00:25:24,686 | You get to know the train schedule. | You get to know the train schedule. |
556 | 00:25:24,754 | 00:25:26,588 | - So alex conway was sneaking out of town | - So alex conway was sneaking out of town |
557 | 00:25:26,655 | 00:25:29,224 | To feed his gambling monkey. | To feed his gambling monkey. |
558 | 00:25:29,291 | 00:25:31,626 | - Know what else a.C. Is lousy with besides casinos? | - Know what else a.C. Is lousy with besides casinos? |
559 | 00:25:31,694 | 00:25:33,928 | - Escorts. | - Escorts. |
560 | 00:25:37,032 | 00:25:39,534 | - Yeah, the hat. Poconos. | - Yeah, the hat. Poconos. |
561 | 00:25:39,602 | 00:25:40,835 | We had four robberies over those days | We had four robberies over those days |
562 | 00:25:40,903 | 00:25:42,537 | That come back to a guy wearing this hat. | That come back to a guy wearing this hat. |
563 | 00:25:42,605 | 00:25:43,671 | - These were robberies of escorts? | - These were robberies of escorts? |
564 | 00:25:43,739 | 00:25:44,706 | - No. | - No. |
565 | 00:25:44,774 | 00:25:45,907 | Convenience stores, gas stations, | Convenience stores, gas stations, |
566 | 00:25:45,975 | 00:25:47,509 | A palm reader, even. | A palm reader, even. |
567 | 00:25:47,576 | 00:25:48,710 | Two months, the guy's still in the wind. | Two months, the guy's still in the wind. |
568 | 00:25:48,778 | 00:25:49,911 | - Not for long. | - Not for long. |
569 | 00:25:49,979 | 00:25:52,080 | Couple of your casinos have our mr. Conway | Couple of your casinos have our mr. Conway |
570 | 00:25:52,148 | 00:25:53,515 | On their security cameras on those dates. | On their security cameras on those dates. |
571 | 00:25:53,582 | 00:25:54,616 | - Mm-hmm. | - Mm-hmm. |
572 | 00:25:54,683 | 00:25:55,917 | - Hey, b, check this out. | - Hey, b, check this out. |
573 | 00:25:55,985 | 00:25:57,886 | When the victim tried to get up, the suspect hit him | When the victim tried to get up, the suspect hit him |
574 | 00:25:57,953 | 00:26:00,422 | At the base of his spine with a pry bar, | At the base of his spine with a pry bar, |
575 | 00:26:00,489 | 00:26:03,625 | Causing temporary paralysis of his legs. | Causing temporary paralysis of his legs. |
576 | 00:26:03,692 | 00:26:05,627 | - We have new evidence, your honor, | - We have new evidence, your honor, |
577 | 00:26:05,694 | 00:26:08,696 | And a request from new jersey to hold mr. Conway | And a request from new jersey to hold mr. Conway |
578 | 00:26:08,764 | 00:26:10,365 | Pending extradition | Pending extradition |
579 | 00:26:10,433 | 00:26:13,435 | To face four robbery charges in atlantic city. | To face four robbery charges in atlantic city. |
580 | 00:26:13,502 | 00:26:15,336 | And we're seeking bail modification | And we're seeking bail modification |
581 | 00:26:15,404 | 00:26:16,604 | To $5 million. | To $5 million. |
582 | 00:26:16,672 | 00:26:17,972 | - It's bootstrapping, judge. | - It's bootstrapping, judge. |
583 | 00:26:18,040 | 00:26:19,307 | Mr. Cutter's got no case, | Mr. Cutter's got no case, |
584 | 00:26:19,375 | 00:26:21,643 | So he's getting new jersey to do his dirty work. | So he's getting new jersey to do his dirty work. |
585 | 00:26:21,710 | 00:26:23,611 | - Sour grapes, mr. Backlund. | - Sour grapes, mr. Backlund. |
586 | 00:26:23,679 | 00:26:27,482 | Bail's set at $5 million. [bangs gavel] | Bail's set at $5 million. [bangs gavel] |
587 | 00:26:27,550 | 00:26:28,616 | - We're done here. | - We're done here. |
588 | 00:26:28,684 | 00:26:29,884 | - Dad, we have to pay alex's bail. | - Dad, we have to pay alex's bail. |
589 | 00:26:29,952 | 00:26:32,687 | - We're done here, carrie. I'm sorry. | - We're done here, carrie. I'm sorry. |
590 | 00:26:37,560 | 00:26:39,961 | - I guess no more family dinners for mr. Conway. | - I guess no more family dinners for mr. Conway. |
591 | 00:26:40,029 | 00:26:42,230 | - Yeah, well, he can still count on his fiancee | - Yeah, well, he can still count on his fiancee |
592 | 00:26:42,298 | 00:26:43,798 | To be an alibi witness. | To be an alibi witness. |
593 | 00:26:43,866 | 00:26:45,400 | - Maybe we can do something about that. | - Maybe we can do something about that. |
594 | 00:26:47,903 | 00:26:49,237 | - What are they doing here? | - What are they doing here? |
595 | 00:26:49,305 | 00:26:51,406 | - It's time to face the facts about alex. | - It's time to face the facts about alex. |
596 | 00:26:51,474 | 00:26:52,874 | - He's not the man you thought-- | - He's not the man you thought-- |
597 | 00:26:52,942 | 00:26:54,008 | We thought he was. | We thought he was. |
598 | 00:26:54,076 | 00:26:56,010 | - I won't listen to their lies. | - I won't listen to their lies. |
599 | 00:26:56,078 | 00:26:57,378 | - We're your parents, | - We're your parents, |
600 | 00:26:57,446 | 00:26:58,880 | And we're entitled to five minutes of your time. | And we're entitled to five minutes of your time. |
601 | 00:26:58,948 | 00:27:01,816 | Now sit down and listen to them. | Now sit down and listen to them. |
602 | 00:27:06,722 | 00:27:08,690 | - Carrie, did you know alex | - Carrie, did you know alex |
603 | 00:27:08,757 | 00:27:12,460 | Had gone to atlantic city to gamble? | Had gone to atlantic city to gamble? |
604 | 00:27:12,528 | 00:27:15,597 | This is him at the golden dome casino | This is him at the golden dome casino |
605 | 00:27:15,664 | 00:27:19,200 | On a night he was supposed to be in his lab. | On a night he was supposed to be in his lab. |
606 | 00:27:19,268 | 00:27:21,803 | He lost over $30,000. | He lost over $30,000. |
607 | 00:27:21,871 | 00:27:24,005 | - While alex was in atlantic city, | - While alex was in atlantic city, |
608 | 00:27:24,073 | 00:27:27,609 | Four businesses were robbed at gunpoint. | Four businesses were robbed at gunpoint. |
609 | 00:27:27,676 | 00:27:30,411 | This is a sketch of the suspect. | This is a sketch of the suspect. |
610 | 00:27:31,981 | 00:27:33,314 | - I don't want to hear it anymore. | - I don't want to hear it anymore. |
611 | 00:27:33,382 | 00:27:34,983 | - One of the victims was struck | - One of the victims was struck |
612 | 00:27:35,050 | 00:27:38,620 | With a pry bar at the base of the spine. | With a pry bar at the base of the spine. |
613 | 00:27:38,687 | 00:27:43,525 | The exact same spot where justine stebbins was shot. | The exact same spot where justine stebbins was shot. |
614 | 00:27:43,592 | 00:27:46,427 | Injuries meant to paralyze them below the waist. | Injuries meant to paralyze them below the waist. |
615 | 00:27:46,495 | 00:27:50,732 | Something someone with an intimate knowledge of neurology | Something someone with an intimate knowledge of neurology |
616 | 00:27:50,799 | 00:27:52,200 | Would know how to do, | Would know how to do, |
617 | 00:27:52,268 | 00:27:55,336 | And do with surgical precision. | And do with surgical precision. |
618 | 00:27:55,404 | 00:27:57,739 | - It's not possible. I know him. | - It's not possible. I know him. |
619 | 00:27:57,806 | 00:27:58,973 | - Carrie, believe me, | - Carrie, believe me, |
620 | 00:27:59,041 | 00:28:01,776 | Some men keep part of themselves locked up. | Some men keep part of themselves locked up. |
621 | 00:28:01,844 | 00:28:05,213 | They wear a mask. Alex is one of those men. | They wear a mask. Alex is one of those men. |
622 | 00:28:07,616 | 00:28:11,252 | - It can't be. I love him. | - It can't be. I love him. |
623 | 00:28:11,320 | 00:28:14,822 | - You can't protect him anymore. | - You can't protect him anymore. |
624 | 00:28:18,260 | 00:28:23,464 | - I lied for him. | - I lied for him. |
625 | 00:28:23,532 | 00:28:26,334 | The night the girl was killed, alex went out jogging. | The night the girl was killed, alex went out jogging. |
626 | 00:28:26,402 | 00:28:30,338 | He wasn't with me. He wasn't with me. | He wasn't with me. He wasn't with me. |
627 | 00:28:30,406 | 00:28:31,739 | Oh, my god... | Oh, my god... |
628 | 00:28:31,807 | 00:28:34,709 | We were going to be married. | We were going to be married. |
629 | 00:28:42,765 | 00:28:45,133 | Your fiancee's taken herself off your witness list. | Your fiancee's taken herself off your witness list. |
630 | 00:28:45,201 | 00:28:46,801 | You're all alone now. | You're all alone now. |
631 | 00:28:46,869 | 00:28:49,103 | - I've been alone since I was 11. | - I've been alone since I was 11. |
632 | 00:28:49,171 | 00:28:50,772 | Anyway, better to find out now that she's weak, | Anyway, better to find out now that she's weak, |
633 | 00:28:50,839 | 00:28:52,607 | Than after we're married. | Than after we're married. |
634 | 00:28:52,675 | 00:28:55,543 | - Speaking of weak, your case is all hat and no cattle. | - Speaking of weak, your case is all hat and no cattle. |
635 | 00:28:55,611 | 00:28:57,545 | The only evidence tying my client to these crimes | The only evidence tying my client to these crimes |
636 | 00:28:57,613 | 00:29:00,381 | Is a poconos cap, thousands of which were sold. | Is a poconos cap, thousands of which were sold. |
637 | 00:29:00,449 | 00:29:02,217 | - The only hat the jury will care about | - The only hat the jury will care about |
638 | 00:29:02,284 | 00:29:04,252 | Is the one he was wearing when he was arrested. | Is the one he was wearing when he was arrested. |
639 | 00:29:04,320 | 00:29:07,021 | The offer's 20 to life. | The offer's 20 to life. |
640 | 00:29:07,089 | 00:29:08,223 | - This is all predicated | - This is all predicated |
641 | 00:29:08,290 | 00:29:11,259 | On a misunderstanding of my research. | On a misunderstanding of my research. |
642 | 00:29:11,327 | 00:29:13,428 | I interview my subjects in their native environment | I interview my subjects in their native environment |
643 | 00:29:13,495 | 00:29:15,763 | Because that's the only way to get accurate reporting. | Because that's the only way to get accurate reporting. |
644 | 00:29:15,831 | 00:29:20,735 | - Masters and johnson would be so proud of you. | - Masters and johnson would be so proud of you. |
645 | 00:29:20,803 | 00:29:22,503 | 20 to life. | 20 to life. |
646 | 00:29:24,740 | 00:29:26,908 | - This is gonna be fun. | - This is gonna be fun. |
647 | 00:29:37,219 | 00:29:40,488 | - The research excuse. That's some trial strategy. | - The research excuse. That's some trial strategy. |
648 | 00:29:40,556 | 00:29:42,890 | - He's enjoying this too much. | - He's enjoying this too much. |
649 | 00:29:42,958 | 00:29:47,662 | We need to do our own research. | We need to do our own research. |
650 | 00:29:47,730 | 00:29:50,298 | - Risk-taking, inflated sense of self, promiscuity. | - Risk-taking, inflated sense of self, promiscuity. |
651 | 00:29:50,366 | 00:29:53,534 | There are 20 markers on the p.C.L.R. Scale of psychopathy. | There are 20 markers on the p.C.L.R. Scale of psychopathy. |
652 | 00:29:53,602 | 00:29:55,470 | Conway ticks most of them. | Conway ticks most of them. |
653 | 00:29:55,537 | 00:29:58,339 | - I thought psychopaths were hyper-rational. | - I thought psychopaths were hyper-rational. |
654 | 00:29:58,407 | 00:30:00,208 | This guy's a runaway train. | This guy's a runaway train. |
655 | 00:30:00,276 | 00:30:01,376 | - Well, he's not so out of control. | - Well, he's not so out of control. |
656 | 00:30:01,443 | 00:30:03,144 | He went from robbing gas stations to escorts | He went from robbing gas stations to escorts |
657 | 00:30:03,212 | 00:30:04,979 | Because they weren't likely to report him. | Because they weren't likely to report him. |
658 | 00:30:05,047 | 00:30:07,649 | - His exposure to that world is probably where he got his taste | - His exposure to that world is probably where he got his taste |
659 | 00:30:07,716 | 00:30:10,118 | For sexual adventurism. | For sexual adventurism. |
660 | 00:30:10,185 | 00:30:11,986 | He allowed himself to be sucked into a vortex | He allowed himself to be sucked into a vortex |
661 | 00:30:12,054 | 00:30:14,355 | Of perversion and violence because it thrilled him. | Of perversion and violence because it thrilled him. |
662 | 00:30:14,423 | 00:30:16,624 | - What about his research defense? | - What about his research defense? |
663 | 00:30:16,692 | 00:30:19,127 | - According to his professors, conway's working to identify | - According to his professors, conway's working to identify |
664 | 00:30:19,194 | 00:30:20,528 | The centers of the brain responsible | The centers of the brain responsible |
665 | 00:30:20,596 | 00:30:22,563 | For sexual orientation. | For sexual orientation. |
666 | 00:30:22,631 | 00:30:24,699 | But commando stuff like field interviews | But commando stuff like field interviews |
667 | 00:30:24,767 | 00:30:26,634 | With sex workers and transsexuals | With sex workers and transsexuals |
668 | 00:30:26,702 | 00:30:28,303 | Isn't a normal part of it. | Isn't a normal part of it. |
669 | 00:30:28,370 | 00:30:29,671 | - Now that he has a taste for the violence, | - Now that he has a taste for the violence, |
670 | 00:30:29,738 | 00:30:31,572 | How likely is he to stop? | How likely is he to stop? |
671 | 00:30:31,640 | 00:30:33,641 | - How about not bloody likely. | - How about not bloody likely. |
672 | 00:30:33,709 | 00:30:35,777 | - Unless we stop him. | - Unless we stop him. |
673 | 00:30:35,844 | 00:30:37,578 | - I'd love to hear how. | - I'd love to hear how. |
674 | 00:30:37,646 | 00:30:39,947 | No eyewitness, no murder weapon-- | No eyewitness, no murder weapon-- |
675 | 00:30:40,015 | 00:30:41,983 | - We offered him a plea, he turned us down. | - We offered him a plea, he turned us down. |
676 | 00:30:42,051 | 00:30:43,217 | - Not surprising. | - Not surprising. |
677 | 00:30:43,285 | 00:30:46,120 | Psychopaths engage in a cost-benefit analysis | Psychopaths engage in a cost-benefit analysis |
678 | 00:30:46,188 | 00:30:47,822 | Of their behavior. | Of their behavior. |
679 | 00:30:47,890 | 00:30:49,190 | They can't be bluffed. | They can't be bluffed. |
680 | 00:30:49,258 | 00:30:52,060 | - So sweeten the pot to make the plea more attractive. | - So sweeten the pot to make the plea more attractive. |
681 | 00:30:52,127 | 00:30:54,862 | - And give a budding serial killer a slap on the wrist? | - And give a budding serial killer a slap on the wrist? |
682 | 00:30:54,930 | 00:30:57,532 | I'm gonna to put mr. Conway in jail for a good long time. | I'm gonna to put mr. Conway in jail for a good long time. |
683 | 00:30:57,599 | 00:30:59,801 | - What were you saying about risk-taking | - What were you saying about risk-taking |
684 | 00:30:59,868 | 00:31:01,703 | And an inflated sense of self? | And an inflated sense of self? |
685 | 00:31:01,770 | 00:31:04,739 | How many markers on that scale does mike hit? | How many markers on that scale does mike hit? |
686 | 00:31:07,109 | 00:31:08,343 | - In this case, | - In this case, |
687 | 00:31:08,410 | 00:31:10,978 | You might hear evidence of unusual sexual behavior. | You might hear evidence of unusual sexual behavior. |
688 | 00:31:11,046 | 00:31:12,380 | With that in mind, what would you think of someone | With that in mind, what would you think of someone |
689 | 00:31:12,448 | 00:31:14,315 | Who had sex with transsexuals? | Who had sex with transsexuals? |
690 | 00:31:14,383 | 00:31:16,417 | - I'd think he was sick. | - I'd think he was sick. |
691 | 00:31:18,120 | 00:31:19,787 | - For cause, judge. | - For cause, judge. |
692 | 00:31:19,855 | 00:31:23,758 | - Number six is excused with my thanks. | - Number six is excused with my thanks. |
693 | 00:31:23,826 | 00:31:26,761 | - Number seven, would you be prejudiced against a person | - Number seven, would you be prejudiced against a person |
694 | 00:31:26,829 | 00:31:28,463 | Simply because he behaved in a manner | Simply because he behaved in a manner |
695 | 00:31:28,530 | 00:31:31,499 | That some might consider risky or outside the norm? | That some might consider risky or outside the norm? |
696 | 00:31:31,567 | 00:31:33,167 | - I don't, uh, I don't know. | - I don't, uh, I don't know. |
697 | 00:31:33,235 | 00:31:35,470 | It's really hard for me to focus. | It's really hard for me to focus. |
698 | 00:31:35,537 | 00:31:36,938 | My wife and I just separated, | My wife and I just separated, |
699 | 00:31:37,005 | 00:31:40,108 | And, um, I really wish I wasn't here. | And, um, I really wish I wasn't here. |
700 | 00:31:47,516 | 00:31:50,418 | - This juror is acceptable. | - This juror is acceptable. |
701 | 00:31:50,486 | 00:31:51,819 | - They're keeping him? | - They're keeping him? |
702 | 00:31:51,887 | 00:31:54,122 | - Now the genius thinks he's a lawyer. | - Now the genius thinks he's a lawyer. |
703 | 00:31:54,189 | 00:31:55,723 | The people have no objection. | The people have no objection. |
704 | 00:31:55,791 | 00:31:57,692 | - Number seven is empaneled. | - Number seven is empaneled. |
705 | 00:32:04,166 | 00:32:05,400 | - I fought him. | - I fought him. |
706 | 00:32:05,467 | 00:32:07,935 | He punched me, but I just kept screaming. | He punched me, but I just kept screaming. |
707 | 00:32:08,003 | 00:32:09,003 | Finally he ran out. | Finally he ran out. |
708 | 00:32:09,071 | 00:32:12,974 | - Do you see that man here today? | - Do you see that man here today? |
709 | 00:32:13,041 | 00:32:16,677 | - That's him. The defendant. | - That's him. The defendant. |
710 | 00:32:16,745 | 00:32:19,514 | - Thank you. | - Thank you. |
711 | 00:32:21,049 | 00:32:22,650 | - This economy must be tough | - This economy must be tough |
712 | 00:32:22,718 | 00:32:24,685 | On folks like you and your husband. | On folks like you and your husband. |
713 | 00:32:24,753 | 00:32:25,920 | - It is. | - It is. |
714 | 00:32:25,988 | 00:32:27,155 | The store where I used to work closed down. | The store where I used to work closed down. |
715 | 00:32:27,222 | 00:32:28,790 | My husband's working part-time. | My husband's working part-time. |
716 | 00:32:28,857 | 00:32:31,426 | We were in danger of losing the house. | We were in danger of losing the house. |
717 | 00:32:31,493 | 00:32:33,027 | We were under a lot of stress. | We were under a lot of stress. |
718 | 00:32:33,095 | 00:32:34,195 | - Now, isn't it true | - Now, isn't it true |
719 | 00:32:34,263 | 00:32:35,396 | That my client booked an appntment with you | That my client booked an appntment with you |
720 | 00:32:35,464 | 00:32:36,764 | So he could interview you for his research? | So he could interview you for his research? |
721 | 00:32:36,832 | 00:32:38,599 | - No, it isn't. | - No, it isn't. |
722 | 00:32:38,667 | 00:32:40,334 | - And when your husband found out you let my client run out | - And when your husband found out you let my client run out |
723 | 00:32:40,402 | 00:32:41,602 | Without paying you, | Without paying you, |
724 | 00:32:41,670 | 00:32:42,637 | Your husband lost his temper. | Your husband lost his temper. |
725 | 00:32:42,704 | 00:32:44,105 | Under the weight of all the stress, | Under the weight of all the stress, |
726 | 00:32:44,173 | 00:32:45,606 | He lashed out and hit you? | He lashed out and hit you? |
727 | 00:32:45,674 | 00:32:46,674 | - No, that's a lie. | - No, that's a lie. |
728 | 00:32:46,742 | 00:32:50,111 | - Thank you, no more questions. | - Thank you, no more questions. |
729 | 00:32:50,179 | 00:32:52,280 | - Alex kept looking at my pictures of justine. | - Alex kept looking at my pictures of justine. |
730 | 00:32:52,347 | 00:32:55,016 | - He asked me if I was sure she was from richmond. | - He asked me if I was sure she was from richmond. |
731 | 00:32:55,083 | 00:32:56,751 | Did her phone have a richmond area code? | Did her phone have a richmond area code? |
732 | 00:32:56,819 | 00:32:58,219 | And I said yeah. | And I said yeah. |
733 | 00:32:58,287 | 00:33:02,056 | - The same area code as in justine's urban excitement ad. | - The same area code as in justine's urban excitement ad. |
734 | 00:33:02,124 | 00:33:03,491 | Thank you. | Thank you. |
735 | 00:33:06,895 | 00:33:10,231 | - All day you pick up after med students and grad students, | - All day you pick up after med students and grad students, |
736 | 00:33:10,299 | 00:33:12,467 | Help them get their degrees, the high-paying jobs, | Help them get their degrees, the high-paying jobs, |
737 | 00:33:12,534 | 00:33:14,869 | While you're stuck in the lab with your rats. | While you're stuck in the lab with your rats. |
738 | 00:33:14,937 | 00:33:16,771 | Little unfair, no? | Little unfair, no? |
739 | 00:33:16,839 | 00:33:18,372 | - Yeah, I guess. | - Yeah, I guess. |
740 | 00:33:18,440 | 00:33:19,574 | - Now, finally you have | - Now, finally you have |
741 | 00:33:19,641 | 00:33:22,076 | Something to show off to those students, | Something to show off to those students, |
742 | 00:33:22,144 | 00:33:24,378 | This hot girl you bragged about having | This hot girl you bragged about having |
743 | 00:33:24,446 | 00:33:26,514 | Passionate sex with, right? | Passionate sex with, right? |
744 | 00:33:26,582 | 00:33:28,316 | - Yeah. | - Yeah. |
745 | 00:33:28,383 | 00:33:29,817 | - So when justine didn't take your calls, | - So when justine didn't take your calls, |
746 | 00:33:29,885 | 00:33:31,552 | It had to be frustrating. | It had to be frustrating. |
747 | 00:33:31,620 | 00:33:33,521 | After all that bragging, this prostitute | After all that bragging, this prostitute |
748 | 00:33:33,589 | 00:33:34,789 | Who had sex with strangers | Who had sex with strangers |
749 | 00:33:34,857 | 00:33:36,424 | Thought she was too good for you. | Thought she was too good for you. |
750 | 00:33:36,492 | 00:33:37,658 | - I didn't know she was a prostitute. | - I didn't know she was a prostitute. |
751 | 00:33:37,726 | 00:33:42,063 | - Her face was plastered all over the internet. | - Her face was plastered all over the internet. |
752 | 00:33:42,130 | 00:33:44,432 | And when you realized what she was, | And when you realized what she was, |
753 | 00:33:44,500 | 00:33:46,267 | Your frustration boiled over. - No. | Your frustration boiled over. - No. |
754 | 00:33:46,335 | 00:33:47,835 | - You tricked your way into her room | - You tricked your way into her room |
755 | 00:33:47,903 | 00:33:48,970 | And you taught her a lesson she'd never forget. | And you taught her a lesson she'd never forget. |
756 | 00:33:49,037 | 00:33:50,404 | - That's not true. | - That's not true. |
757 | 00:33:50,472 | 00:33:52,406 | - Then you blame this crime on someone who is better than you. | - Then you blame this crime on someone who is better than you. |
758 | 00:33:52,474 | 00:33:53,741 | - No, he is not. | - No, he is not. |
759 | 00:33:53,809 | 00:33:55,977 | - Somebody who is more accomplished, more respected-- | - Somebody who is more accomplished, more respected-- |
760 | 00:33:56,044 | 00:33:59,080 | - He is not better than me! He's nothing! | - He is not better than me! He's nothing! |
761 | 00:34:01,850 | 00:34:03,618 | He's nothing! | He's nothing! |
762 | 00:34:03,685 | 00:34:05,486 | - No more questions. | - No more questions. |
763 | 00:34:05,554 | 00:34:07,788 | - We'll take a brief lunch recess. | - We'll take a brief lunch recess. |
764 | 00:34:07,856 | 00:34:10,558 | [bangs gavel] | [bangs gavel] |
765 | 00:34:10,626 | 00:34:13,227 | - And we've got a problem with number seven. | - And we've got a problem with number seven. |
766 | 00:34:13,295 | 00:34:15,429 | Pinter. I think he's made up his mind. | Pinter. I think he's made up his mind. |
767 | 00:34:20,702 | 00:34:22,303 | - Yes, sir. I understand my obligations. | - Yes, sir. I understand my obligations. |
768 | 00:34:22,371 | 00:34:23,838 | - You understand that you have to keep | - You understand that you have to keep |
769 | 00:34:23,906 | 00:34:25,806 | An open mind until you hear all the evidence? | An open mind until you hear all the evidence? |
770 | 00:34:25,874 | 00:34:27,575 | I mean, if not, I'll excuse you. | I mean, if not, I'll excuse you. |
771 | 00:34:27,643 | 00:34:29,477 | - Oh, no. I can keep an open mind, sir. | - Oh, no. I can keep an open mind, sir. |
772 | 00:34:29,545 | 00:34:33,047 | I lost my parents when I was a kid, like the defendant. | I lost my parents when I was a kid, like the defendant. |
773 | 00:34:33,115 | 00:34:35,116 | So, uh, I'll give him a fair shake. | So, uh, I'll give him a fair shake. |
774 | 00:34:35,183 | 00:34:39,287 | - Well, you can return to the jury room. | - Well, you can return to the jury room. |
775 | 00:34:43,458 | 00:34:46,627 | - Mr. Cutter, I'm satisfied with mr. Pinter's answers. | - Mr. Cutter, I'm satisfied with mr. Pinter's answers. |
776 | 00:34:46,695 | 00:34:48,396 | Now can I get back to my sandwich? | Now can I get back to my sandwich? |
777 | 00:34:48,463 | 00:34:52,600 | - Yes, your honor. | - Yes, your honor. |
778 | 00:34:52,668 | 00:34:55,269 | - Two weeks ago, pinter was bucking to get off the jury. | - Two weeks ago, pinter was bucking to get off the jury. |
779 | 00:34:55,337 | 00:34:56,737 | Now the judge gives him a way out and he doesn't take it? | Now the judge gives him a way out and he doesn't take it? |
780 | 00:34:56,805 | 00:34:58,039 | - Not just that. | - Not just that. |
781 | 00:34:58,106 | 00:35:00,474 | He said conway lost his parents as a kid. | He said conway lost his parents as a kid. |
782 | 00:35:00,542 | 00:35:02,777 | That hasn't been mentioned at trial yet. | That hasn't been mentioned at trial yet. |
783 | 00:35:02,844 | 00:35:03,844 | - Somebody got to him. | - Somebody got to him. |
784 | 00:35:07,983 | 00:35:10,918 | - If you can't win in court, harass the jurors. | - If you can't win in court, harass the jurors. |
785 | 00:35:10,986 | 00:35:12,086 | That's a trial strategy we haven't covered | That's a trial strategy we haven't covered |
786 | 00:35:12,154 | 00:35:13,421 | In law school yet. | In law school yet. |
787 | 00:35:13,488 | 00:35:15,623 | - Hmm. | - Hmm. |
788 | 00:35:15,691 | 00:35:17,158 | Hey, here we go. | Hey, here we go. |
789 | 00:35:22,965 | 00:35:24,699 | - No wonder he can't keep his mind on the trial. | - No wonder he can't keep his mind on the trial. |
790 | 00:35:24,766 | 00:35:26,367 | He's got a new squeeze. | He's got a new squeeze. |
791 | 00:35:29,571 | 00:35:30,605 | - Hey, b. | - Hey, b. |
792 | 00:35:33,075 | 00:35:35,977 | Don't we know her? | Don't we know her? |
793 | 00:35:36,044 | 00:35:39,146 | - Son of a bitch. | - Son of a bitch. |
794 | 00:35:40,816 | 00:35:42,483 | - Carrie newton? | - Carrie newton? |
795 | 00:35:42,551 | 00:35:45,720 | A juror's dating conway's fiancee? | A juror's dating conway's fiancee? |
796 | 00:35:45,787 | 00:35:48,556 | - Brown contacts and a dye job, but that's our girl. | - Brown contacts and a dye job, but that's our girl. |
797 | 00:35:48,624 | 00:35:50,725 | The cops followed the happy couple to a hotel. | The cops followed the happy couple to a hotel. |
798 | 00:35:50,792 | 00:35:52,893 | - Explains why pinter's not interested in our case. | - Explains why pinter's not interested in our case. |
799 | 00:35:52,961 | 00:35:54,862 | She turned him against us and for conway. | She turned him against us and for conway. |
800 | 00:35:54,930 | 00:35:57,131 | - I thought you had an intervention. | - I thought you had an intervention. |
801 | 00:35:57,199 | 00:35:59,567 | I thought you turned her against conway. | I thought you turned her against conway. |
802 | 00:35:59,635 | 00:36:02,503 | - We were played. Conway must've put her up to it. | - We were played. Conway must've put her up to it. |
803 | 00:36:02,571 | 00:36:04,639 | Pulling her strings, it's the ultimate validation | Pulling her strings, it's the ultimate validation |
804 | 00:36:04,706 | 00:36:06,073 | Of his ego. | Of his ego. |
805 | 00:36:06,141 | 00:36:09,644 | - Speaking of ego, you wanted to go mano-a-mano with him, mike. | - Speaking of ego, you wanted to go mano-a-mano with him, mike. |
806 | 00:36:09,711 | 00:36:13,014 | How's that working out for you? | How's that working out for you? |
807 | 00:36:15,217 | 00:36:17,618 | - I was having lunch at the courthouse cafeteria | - I was having lunch at the courthouse cafeteria |
808 | 00:36:17,686 | 00:36:19,186 | The first day of the trial. | The first day of the trial. |
809 | 00:36:19,254 | 00:36:21,856 | She sat down. We hit it off. | She sat down. We hit it off. |
810 | 00:36:21,923 | 00:36:23,457 | I told her I was on the case of a guy | I told her I was on the case of a guy |
811 | 00:36:23,525 | 00:36:25,326 | Accused of killing some masseuse. | Accused of killing some masseuse. |
812 | 00:36:25,394 | 00:36:26,661 | She was shocked. | She was shocked. |
813 | 00:36:26,728 | 00:36:28,529 | She told me he was her cousin. | She told me he was her cousin. |
814 | 00:36:28,597 | 00:36:29,997 | She said a few things about him, | She said a few things about him, |
815 | 00:36:30,065 | 00:36:31,966 | But I swear, we never talked about the trial. | But I swear, we never talked about the trial. |
816 | 00:36:32,034 | 00:36:34,869 | - I wanna know if he was offered sex or money | - I wanna know if he was offered sex or money |
817 | 00:36:34,936 | 00:36:36,003 | In exchange for his vote. | In exchange for his vote. |
818 | 00:36:36,071 | 00:36:38,739 | - No, no, she never said acquit. I swear. | - No, no, she never said acquit. I swear. |
819 | 00:36:38,807 | 00:36:41,575 | - You're excused from further service. | - You're excused from further service. |
820 | 00:36:41,643 | 00:36:45,279 | I advise you to retain counsel. | I advise you to retain counsel. |
821 | 00:36:49,418 | 00:36:50,785 | - The people move for an immediate mistrial. | - The people move for an immediate mistrial. |
822 | 00:36:50,852 | 00:36:52,119 | The jury's been contaminated. | The jury's been contaminated. |
823 | 00:36:52,187 | 00:36:53,821 | - How? Deliberations haven't started. | - How? Deliberations haven't started. |
824 | 00:36:53,889 | 00:36:56,323 | - We'll question each juror. | - We'll question each juror. |
825 | 00:36:56,391 | 00:36:59,060 | If mr. Pinter hasn't spoken to anyone about the case, | If mr. Pinter hasn't spoken to anyone about the case, |
826 | 00:36:59,127 | 00:37:00,928 | We'll move forward. | We'll move forward. |
827 | 00:37:00,996 | 00:37:03,931 | - Jury tampering. Obstruction. | - Jury tampering. Obstruction. |
828 | 00:37:03,999 | 00:37:06,167 | You're going to jail for a long time | You're going to jail for a long time |
829 | 00:37:06,234 | 00:37:08,502 | Unless you testify that alex put you up to it. | Unless you testify that alex put you up to it. |
830 | 00:37:08,570 | 00:37:09,603 | - He didn't. | - He didn't. |
831 | 00:37:09,671 | 00:37:10,604 | I was sad and I was lonely. | I was sad and I was lonely. |
832 | 00:37:10,672 | 00:37:12,073 | And I reached out to a stranger. | And I reached out to a stranger. |
833 | 00:37:12,140 | 00:37:15,209 | - Jordan pinter admitted that you discussed the case with him. | - Jordan pinter admitted that you discussed the case with him. |
834 | 00:37:15,277 | 00:37:17,645 | - I didn't say anything to him about how he should vote, | - I didn't say anything to him about how he should vote, |
835 | 00:37:17,713 | 00:37:20,815 | So there's nothing that you can do to me. | So there's nothing that you can do to me. |
836 | 00:37:20,882 | 00:37:23,884 | Alex told me you'd try to use me to get to him. | Alex told me you'd try to use me to get to him. |
837 | 00:37:23,952 | 00:37:26,887 | - Carrie, can't you see? Alex is using you. | - Carrie, can't you see? Alex is using you. |
838 | 00:37:26,955 | 00:37:28,322 | He's using you, | He's using you, |
839 | 00:37:28,390 | 00:37:29,657 | He is sucking you down with him. | He is sucking you down with him. |
840 | 00:37:29,725 | 00:37:31,492 | - No, he's not. He's innocent. | - No, he's not. He's innocent. |
841 | 00:37:31,560 | 00:37:35,196 | I don't know why you people-- you can't see that! | I don't know why you people-- you can't see that! |
842 | 00:37:41,103 | 00:37:42,703 | - The judge talked to all the jurors. | - The judge talked to all the jurors. |
843 | 00:37:42,771 | 00:37:44,205 | Pinter hadn't approached any of them-- | Pinter hadn't approached any of them-- |
844 | 00:37:44,272 | 00:37:45,573 | - Yet. | - Yet. |
845 | 00:37:45,640 | 00:37:48,509 | Carrie was going to wait until deliberations started | Carrie was going to wait until deliberations started |
846 | 00:37:48,577 | 00:37:51,312 | Before squeezing him to throw the verdict. | Before squeezing him to throw the verdict. |
847 | 00:37:51,379 | 00:37:52,747 | Conway coached her well. | Conway coached her well. |
848 | 00:37:52,814 | 00:37:54,315 | - If the jury knew what he tried to do, | - If the jury knew what he tried to do, |
849 | 00:37:54,382 | 00:37:55,983 | They'd convict him in a second. | They'd convict him in a second. |
850 | 00:37:56,051 | 00:37:58,085 | - They don't know and they won't. | - They don't know and they won't. |
851 | 00:37:58,153 | 00:37:59,487 | This has gone far enough, mike. | This has gone far enough, mike. |
852 | 00:37:59,554 | 00:38:00,955 | The case is a shambles. | The case is a shambles. |
853 | 00:38:01,022 | 00:38:03,257 | - I'm not offering him another plea. | - I'm not offering him another plea. |
854 | 00:38:03,325 | 00:38:05,359 | He's taking the stand tomorrow. I can get him. | He's taking the stand tomorrow. I can get him. |
855 | 00:38:05,427 | 00:38:08,295 | - You're staking a lot on your ability to break him. | - You're staking a lot on your ability to break him. |
856 | 00:38:08,363 | 00:38:09,697 | Maybe too much. | Maybe too much. |
857 | 00:38:09,765 | 00:38:11,198 | Just remember conway's not the only one | Just remember conway's not the only one |
858 | 00:38:11,266 | 00:38:13,768 | Who does cost-benefit analyses of behavior. | Who does cost-benefit analyses of behavior. |
859 | 00:38:13,835 | 00:38:14,835 | I do too. | I do too. |
860 | 00:38:14,903 | 00:38:16,570 | - Well I'm no bean counter, | - Well I'm no bean counter, |
861 | 00:38:16,638 | 00:38:18,038 | And if I have to go out on the ledge | And if I have to go out on the ledge |
862 | 00:38:18,106 | 00:38:19,974 | With conway to get him, | With conway to get him, |
863 | 00:38:20,041 | 00:38:23,077 | Then that's what I'll do. | Then that's what I'll do. |
864 | 00:38:29,851 | 00:38:31,418 | - When I chose this research method, | - When I chose this research method, |
865 | 00:38:31,486 | 00:38:34,522 | I knew I was stepping into a dangerous world. | I knew I was stepping into a dangerous world. |
866 | 00:38:34,589 | 00:38:38,859 | But when I consider the cost, even in the service of science, | But when I consider the cost, even in the service of science, |
867 | 00:38:38,927 | 00:38:41,629 | No, I can't say it was worth it. | No, I can't say it was worth it. |
868 | 00:38:41,696 | 00:38:44,031 | - Thank you. | - Thank you. |
869 | 00:38:47,369 | 00:38:51,105 | - So in other words, mr. Conway, this case has been nothing | - So in other words, mr. Conway, this case has been nothing |
870 | 00:38:51,173 | 00:38:54,008 | But a giant nuisance to your academic standing. | But a giant nuisance to your academic standing. |
871 | 00:38:54,075 | 00:38:55,543 | - Not just that. | - Not just that. |
872 | 00:38:55,610 | 00:38:58,879 | It's been devastating to the people I love. | It's been devastating to the people I love. |
873 | 00:38:58,947 | 00:39:01,849 | - The people you love. And who would that be? | - The people you love. And who would that be? |
874 | 00:39:01,917 | 00:39:04,919 | - My fiancee. | - My fiancee. |
875 | 00:39:04,986 | 00:39:09,657 | Your prosecution of me has utterly destroyed | Your prosecution of me has utterly destroyed |
876 | 00:39:09,724 | 00:39:11,158 | Our happy life together. | Our happy life together. |
877 | 00:39:11,226 | 00:39:12,793 | - Your fiancee. | - Your fiancee. |
878 | 00:39:12,861 | 00:39:16,630 | Now, the, uh, police testified that she was with you | Now, the, uh, police testified that she was with you |
879 | 00:39:16,698 | 00:39:18,132 | When you were arrested | When you were arrested |
880 | 00:39:18,200 | 00:39:21,368 | On your way to meet a transsexual. | On your way to meet a transsexual. |
881 | 00:39:21,436 | 00:39:23,404 | - To conduct a research interview. Carrie knew that. | - To conduct a research interview. Carrie knew that. |
882 | 00:39:23,471 | 00:39:27,041 | - And at the time of the arrest, she offered an alibi for you | - And at the time of the arrest, she offered an alibi for you |
883 | 00:39:27,108 | 00:39:29,510 | For the night of justine stebbins' murder, correct? | For the night of justine stebbins' murder, correct? |
884 | 00:39:29,578 | 00:39:30,744 | - Correct. | - Correct. |
885 | 00:39:30,812 | 00:39:33,380 | - An alibi that she later recanted, correct? | - An alibi that she later recanted, correct? |
886 | 00:39:33,448 | 00:39:34,415 | - Objection. | - Objection. |
887 | 00:39:34,482 | 00:39:36,584 | - His client opened the door | - His client opened the door |
888 | 00:39:36,651 | 00:39:40,354 | Into what ms. Newton knew or didn't know. | Into what ms. Newton knew or didn't know. |
889 | 00:39:40,422 | 00:39:42,489 | - So he did. Overruled. | - So he did. Overruled. |
890 | 00:39:42,557 | 00:39:45,860 | Answer the question, mr. Conway. | Answer the question, mr. Conway. |
891 | 00:39:45,927 | 00:39:47,428 | - She withdrew the alibi because | - She withdrew the alibi because |
892 | 00:39:47,495 | 00:39:49,964 | She was being relentlessly hounded by the police. | She was being relentlessly hounded by the police. |
893 | 00:39:50,031 | 00:39:53,467 | - In fact, she, uh, she broke off | - In fact, she, uh, she broke off |
894 | 00:39:53,535 | 00:39:57,104 | Her engagement with you, didn't she? | Her engagement with you, didn't she? |
895 | 00:39:57,172 | 00:40:00,908 | - The stress overwhelmed her. | - The stress overwhelmed her. |
896 | 00:40:00,976 | 00:40:03,577 | But once I'm cleared of all charges, | But once I'm cleared of all charges, |
897 | 00:40:03,645 | 00:40:05,179 | We'll be together again. | We'll be together again. |
898 | 00:40:05,247 | 00:40:07,448 | I know it. | I know it. |
899 | 00:40:07,515 | 00:40:09,383 | - Well, how can you know it? | - Well, how can you know it? |
900 | 00:40:09,451 | 00:40:13,053 | You can't even get her to testify for you, can you? | You can't even get her to testify for you, can you? |
901 | 00:40:13,121 | 00:40:14,555 | - Like I said, | - Like I said, |
902 | 00:40:14,623 | 00:40:18,425 | The police and you, mr. Cutter, manipulated her. | The police and you, mr. Cutter, manipulated her. |
903 | 00:40:18,493 | 00:40:20,861 | - Manipulated her? | - Manipulated her? |
904 | 00:40:20,929 | 00:40:23,297 | Into recanting a true alibi? | Into recanting a true alibi? |
905 | 00:40:23,365 | 00:40:25,332 | A woman that you say loves you? | A woman that you say loves you? |
906 | 00:40:25,400 | 00:40:26,867 | - She does love me. She looks up to me. | - She does love me. She looks up to me. |
907 | 00:40:26,935 | 00:40:28,569 | - Oh, I mean obviously, | - Oh, I mean obviously, |
908 | 00:40:28,637 | 00:40:30,905 | Not enough to speak up in your defense. | Not enough to speak up in your defense. |
909 | 00:40:30,972 | 00:40:33,707 | You don't command much loyalty from her, do you, mr. Conway? | You don't command much loyalty from her, do you, mr. Conway? |
910 | 00:40:33,775 | 00:40:35,042 | - That's not true-- | - That's not true-- |
911 | 00:40:35,110 | 00:40:38,212 | - You know, when I tell my people to jump, they jump. | - You know, when I tell my people to jump, they jump. |
912 | 00:40:38,280 | 00:40:40,948 | Like ms. Rubirosa here, I once ordered her | Like ms. Rubirosa here, I once ordered her |
913 | 00:40:41,016 | 00:40:42,216 | To use her attractiveness | To use her attractiveness |
914 | 00:40:42,284 | 00:40:44,785 | To influence a juror, and she did. | To influence a juror, and she did. |
915 | 00:40:44,853 | 00:40:48,455 | But you--you don't command that same obedience, | But you--you don't command that same obedience, |
916 | 00:40:48,523 | 00:40:49,456 | Do you, mr. Conway? | Do you, mr. Conway? |
917 | 00:40:49,524 | 00:40:51,892 | - Wrong. Carrie listens to me. | - Wrong. Carrie listens to me. |
918 | 00:40:51,960 | 00:40:53,594 | - She humors you, is that what you mean? | - She humors you, is that what you mean? |
919 | 00:40:53,662 | 00:40:55,696 | - No, she would've testified if I wanted her to. | - No, she would've testified if I wanted her to. |
920 | 00:40:55,764 | 00:40:56,897 | - Oh, she didn't testify on your orders? | - Oh, she didn't testify on your orders? |
921 | 00:40:56,965 | 00:40:57,898 | - Yes. | - Yes. |
922 | 00:40:57,966 | 00:40:59,133 | - Well, isn't it more likely | - Well, isn't it more likely |
923 | 00:40:59,200 | 00:41:00,534 | It's because she knows you're guilty? | It's because she knows you're guilty? |
924 | 00:41:00,602 | 00:41:03,003 | - Wrong, she does what I tell her, whatever I tell her! | - Wrong, she does what I tell her, whatever I tell her! |
925 | 00:41:03,071 | 00:41:04,138 | She slept with one of the jurors, | She slept with one of the jurors, |
926 | 00:41:04,205 | 00:41:05,673 | That pinter guy, because I told her to. | That pinter guy, because I told her to. |
927 | 00:41:05,740 | 00:41:08,509 | She does exactly what I say because she admires me. | She does exactly what I say because she admires me. |
928 | 00:41:08,576 | 00:41:10,511 | - Objection, your honor. Sidebar. | - Objection, your honor. Sidebar. |
929 | 00:41:10,578 | 00:41:13,914 | - Denied. | - Denied. |
930 | 00:41:13,982 | 00:41:17,785 | Mr. Cutter? | Mr. Cutter? |
931 | 00:41:17,852 | 00:41:19,119 | - No more questions. | - No more questions. |
932 | 00:41:35,236 | 00:41:36,704 | - Mr. Conway. | - Mr. Conway. |
933 | 00:41:36,771 | 00:41:40,908 | Having found you guilty of one count of second-degree murder, | Having found you guilty of one count of second-degree murder, |
934 | 00:41:40,976 | 00:41:44,979 | This court hereby sentences you to a term of 25 years to life | This court hereby sentences you to a term of 25 years to life |
935 | 00:41:45,046 | 00:41:48,048 | In a facility to be determined by the department of correction. | In a facility to be determined by the department of correction. |
936 | 00:41:48,116 | 00:41:52,119 | We're adjourned. [bangs gavel] | We're adjourned. [bangs gavel] |
937 | 00:41:52,187 | 00:41:54,188 | - Good. The right psychopath won. | - Good. The right psychopath won. |
938 | 00:41:54,255 | 00:41:56,857 | - Listen, connie. I'm sorry. | - Listen, connie. I'm sorry. |
939 | 00:41:56,925 | 00:41:58,592 | - Listen, I get it. It's okay. | - Listen, I get it. It's okay. |
940 | 00:41:58,660 | 00:41:59,893 | Whatever it takes to win, right? | Whatever it takes to win, right? |
941 | 00:41:59,961 | 00:42:02,029 | - Alex, baby! | - Alex, baby! |
942 | 00:42:02,097 | 00:42:04,698 | Look...Alex, look! | Look...Alex, look! |
943 | 00:42:04,766 | 00:42:06,166 | I'll be there! | I'll be there! |
944 | 00:42:06,234 | 00:42:08,669 | No matter where they put you, I'll be there! | No matter where they put you, I'll be there! |
945 | 00:42:08,737 | 00:42:12,439 | I'm here for you, alex! Baby, I love you! | I'm here for you, alex! Baby, I love you! |
946 | 00:42:12,507 | 00:42:16,577 | Alex! Alex! | Alex! Alex! |
947 | 00:42:16,644 | 00:42:19,513 | - Love's a bitch. | - Love's a bitch. |