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1 | 00:00:05,400 | 00:00:06,800 | - In the criminal justice system, | - In the criminal justice system, |
2 | 00:00:06,801 | 00:00:09,301 | The people are represented by two separate | The people are represented by two separate |
3 | 00:00:09,302 | 00:00:10,702 | Yet equally important groups, | Yet equally important groups, |
4 | 00:00:10,703 | 00:00:12,503 | The police who investigate crime, | The police who investigate crime, |
5 | 00:00:12,504 | 00:00:15,404 | And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. | And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. |
6 | 00:00:15,405 | 00:00:16,705 | These are their stories. | These are their stories. |
7 | 00:00:21,800 | 00:00:23,351 | Did see that nose stud? | Did see that nose stud? |
8 | 00:00:23,435 | 00:00:24,469 | - Mm-hmm. | - Mm-hmm. |
9 | 00:00:24,520 | 00:00:27,204 | - I mean, what happens when you sneeze? | - I mean, what happens when you sneeze? |
10 | 00:00:27,256 | 00:00:29,474 | - I don't understand how they can walk around like that. | - I don't understand how they can walk around like that. |
11 | 00:00:32,761 | 00:00:34,595 | What now? | What now? |
12 | 00:00:39,918 | 00:00:41,486 | - Zoe? | - Zoe? |
13 | 00:00:43,022 | 00:00:44,422 | Zoe? | Zoe? |
14 | 00:00:46,125 | 00:00:48,426 | Whatever it is you're doing in there, stop it. | Whatever it is you're doing in there, stop it. |
15 | 00:00:48,494 | 00:00:49,944 | It's time to go to sleep. | It's time to go to sleep. |
16 | 00:00:58,921 | 00:01:03,374 | [Indistinct chatter on police radio] | [Indistinct chatter on police radio] |
17 | 00:01:03,425 | 00:01:06,461 | - Down the hallway to the left. | - Down the hallway to the left. |
18 | 00:01:28,150 | 00:01:30,318 | - Mr. Morgan's down here. | - Mr. Morgan's down here. |
19 | 00:02:03,802 | 00:02:05,636 | - Lupes. | - Lupes. |
20 | 00:02:29,094 | 00:02:32,296 | - That's all of them. | - That's all of them. |
21 | 00:02:43,797 | 00:02:45,697 | Sync by Adriano_CSI | Sync by Adriano_CSI |
22 | 00:03:27,544 | 00:03:29,361 | - Hey. | - Hey. |
23 | 00:03:29,413 | 00:03:31,798 | Voucher this bag, | Voucher this bag, |
24 | 00:03:31,865 | 00:03:34,133 | Then she's all yours. | Then she's all yours. |
25 | 00:03:38,172 | 00:03:39,305 | Hey. | Hey. |
26 | 00:03:39,372 | 00:03:42,475 | Shoot this joint before you bag it. | Shoot this joint before you bag it. |
27 | 00:03:43,510 | 00:03:45,511 | [Camera shutter clicks] | [Camera shutter clicks] |
28 | 00:03:47,147 | 00:03:50,400 | Well, well, well. | Well, well, well. |
29 | 00:03:50,484 | 00:03:54,687 | It looks like our morgan girl was partying with a friend. | It looks like our morgan girl was partying with a friend. |
30 | 00:03:54,738 | 00:03:57,073 | One joint, two bottles... | One joint, two bottles... |
31 | 00:03:57,157 | 00:03:59,525 | One with lipstick, one without. | One with lipstick, one without. |
32 | 00:03:59,576 | 00:04:02,195 | - Well, there's five plates and five glasses. | - Well, there's five plates and five glasses. |
33 | 00:04:02,246 | 00:04:04,247 | I'm guessing the friend was here for dinner. | I'm guessing the friend was here for dinner. |
34 | 00:04:04,331 | 00:04:08,567 | - Maybe the type to eat, kill, and run. | - Maybe the type to eat, kill, and run. |
35 | 00:04:08,619 | 00:04:10,369 | - So the dinner guest | - So the dinner guest |
36 | 00:04:10,421 | 00:04:12,205 | Might've been the daughter's boyfriend. | Might've been the daughter's boyfriend. |
37 | 00:04:12,256 | 00:04:14,540 | - The people downstairs never saw them with anybody. | - The people downstairs never saw them with anybody. |
38 | 00:04:14,591 | 00:04:16,592 | They say the morgans kept a pretty tight leash | They say the morgans kept a pretty tight leash |
39 | 00:04:16,677 | 00:04:17,743 | On their kids. | On their kids. |
40 | 00:04:17,795 | 00:04:19,578 | - Except for the reefer and the malt liquor. | - Except for the reefer and the malt liquor. |
41 | 00:04:19,630 | 00:04:21,964 | - Yeah, and the "tramp stamp" on the girl's back. | - Yeah, and the "tramp stamp" on the girl's back. |
42 | 00:04:22,049 | 00:04:25,017 | Looks like a work in progress. | Looks like a work in progress. |
43 | 00:04:25,085 | 00:04:26,252 | - An angel. | - An angel. |
44 | 00:04:26,303 | 00:04:28,387 | - Yeah. Where the parents would never see it. | - Yeah. Where the parents would never see it. |
45 | 00:04:28,439 | 00:04:31,057 | - Well, find out who was seeing it. | - Well, find out who was seeing it. |
46 | 00:04:31,108 | 00:04:32,608 | Oh, and by the way, | Oh, and by the way, |
47 | 00:04:32,693 | 00:04:36,112 | Without the beards, you guys look five years younger. | Without the beards, you guys look five years younger. |
48 | 00:04:36,196 | 00:04:37,730 | - [Scoffs] | - [Scoffs] |
49 | 00:04:37,781 | 00:04:40,432 | Which makes you about 12. | Which makes you about 12. |
50 | 00:04:41,652 | 00:04:44,937 | Black lipstick, black nail polish, | Black lipstick, black nail polish, |
51 | 00:04:44,988 | 00:04:46,739 | Spike neck collar. | Spike neck collar. |
52 | 00:04:46,790 | 00:04:49,441 | - Being goth never killed anybody. | - Being goth never killed anybody. |
53 | 00:04:49,493 | 00:04:51,244 | - Condoms on the inside... | - Condoms on the inside... |
54 | 00:04:51,295 | 00:04:55,631 | And this on the outside. | And this on the outside. |
55 | 00:04:55,716 | 00:04:57,116 | - Ah, a bartender... | - Ah, a bartender... |
56 | 00:04:57,167 | 00:04:58,718 | Every parent's nightmare. | Every parent's nightmare. |
57 | 00:04:58,785 | 00:05:01,120 | - Yeah. Building site in the background. | - Yeah. Building site in the background. |
58 | 00:05:01,171 | 00:05:03,422 | "Hardy construction." | "Hardy construction." |
59 | 00:05:05,959 | 00:05:07,527 | - I saw it on the news. | - I saw it on the news. |
60 | 00:05:07,594 | 00:05:08,644 | I, uh... | I, uh... |
61 | 00:05:08,729 | 00:05:10,012 | I just can't get my head around it. | I just can't get my head around it. |
62 | 00:05:10,097 | 00:05:11,764 | - It didn't occur to you to tell the police | - It didn't occur to you to tell the police |
63 | 00:05:11,815 | 00:05:13,149 | You were the victim's boyfriend? | You were the victim's boyfriend? |
64 | 00:05:13,233 | 00:05:15,902 | - Was I supposed to do that? We weren't that tight. | - Was I supposed to do that? We weren't that tight. |
65 | 00:05:15,969 | 00:05:17,487 | - Where were you last night? | - Where were you last night? |
66 | 00:05:17,571 | 00:05:19,305 | - I was right here. We close at 4:00. | - I was right here. We close at 4:00. |
67 | 00:05:19,356 | 00:05:21,657 | - All right, so we check zoe's phone records, | - All right, so we check zoe's phone records, |
68 | 00:05:21,742 | 00:05:24,277 | We gonna find any calls or texts from you? | We gonna find any calls or texts from you? |
69 | 00:05:24,328 | 00:05:26,195 | - We were supposed to meet here, and she blew me off. | - We were supposed to meet here, and she blew me off. |
70 | 00:05:26,280 | 00:05:28,014 | I wasn't too happy about it. | I wasn't too happy about it. |
71 | 00:05:28,081 | 00:05:29,499 | - She tell you why she stood you up? | - She tell you why she stood you up? |
72 | 00:05:29,583 | 00:05:32,451 | - She said she had to take care of some chick she met at a club. | - She said she had to take care of some chick she met at a club. |
73 | 00:05:32,503 | 00:05:33,786 | - Did you know this girl? | - Did you know this girl? |
74 | 00:05:33,837 | 00:05:36,172 | - No, but I guess that her and zoe are pretty tight. | - No, but I guess that her and zoe are pretty tight. |
75 | 00:05:36,256 | 00:05:37,924 | They, uh... they got inked together. | They, uh... they got inked together. |
76 | 00:05:37,991 | 00:05:39,158 | - No kidding. | - No kidding. |
77 | 00:05:39,209 | 00:05:42,995 | The tattoo parlor... your recommendation, yeah? | The tattoo parlor... your recommendation, yeah? |
78 | 00:05:43,063 | 00:05:44,964 | - Yeah, I worked on her. | - Yeah, I worked on her. |
79 | 00:05:45,015 | 00:05:46,132 | She said she was a friend of tommy's. | She said she was a friend of tommy's. |
80 | 00:05:46,183 | 00:05:47,300 | - We're gonna need the name | - We're gonna need the name |
81 | 00:05:47,351 | 00:05:48,834 | And description of the girl she was with. | And description of the girl she was with. |
82 | 00:05:48,886 | 00:05:50,102 | - She's hard to miss. | - She's hard to miss. |
83 | 00:05:50,170 | 00:05:51,938 | Uh, she had a green jacket | Uh, she had a green jacket |
84 | 00:05:52,005 | 00:05:54,173 | And dark hair with racing stripes. | And dark hair with racing stripes. |
85 | 00:05:54,224 | 00:05:56,809 | - The tattoo you did, this it? | - The tattoo you did, this it? |
86 | 00:05:56,860 | 00:05:58,611 | - This isn't representative of my work. | - This isn't representative of my work. |
87 | 00:05:58,678 | 00:06:00,679 | They wouldn't let me finish. | They wouldn't let me finish. |
88 | 00:06:00,731 | 00:06:03,733 | - What would this look like finished? | - What would this look like finished? |
89 | 00:06:06,570 | 00:06:09,372 | A devil stabbing an angel? | A devil stabbing an angel? |
90 | 00:06:09,456 | 00:06:11,290 | - It's their own design. They brought it in. | - It's their own design. They brought it in. |
91 | 00:06:11,358 | 00:06:13,125 | - Why wouldn't they let you finish it? | - Why wouldn't they let you finish it? |
92 | 00:06:13,193 | 00:06:14,460 | - The one in the green jacket | - The one in the green jacket |
93 | 00:06:14,527 | 00:06:16,546 | Was worried about missing some curfew. | Was worried about missing some curfew. |
94 | 00:06:16,630 | 00:06:18,548 | She said a guard wouldn't let her in past 11:00. | She said a guard wouldn't let her in past 11:00. |
95 | 00:06:18,632 | 00:06:22,134 | - This bloodstain, whose is it? | - This bloodstain, whose is it? |
96 | 00:06:22,202 | 00:06:25,204 | - The friend, the green jacket. | - The friend, the green jacket. |
97 | 00:06:25,255 | 00:06:28,341 | It got on there when I was inking her. | It got on there when I was inking her. |
98 | 00:06:28,392 | 00:06:31,543 | - Hey, the blood from the sketch | - Hey, the blood from the sketch |
99 | 00:06:31,595 | 00:06:34,597 | Matched an unidentified blood swab from zoe's bedroom. | Matched an unidentified blood swab from zoe's bedroom. |
100 | 00:06:34,681 | 00:06:36,315 | - So her friend was there. | - So her friend was there. |
101 | 00:06:36,383 | 00:06:39,051 | - Yeah, as a witness or an accomplice. | - Yeah, as a witness or an accomplice. |
102 | 00:06:39,102 | 00:06:41,887 | - A girl with an 11:00 p.M. Curfew and a security guard. | - A girl with an 11:00 p.M. Curfew and a security guard. |
103 | 00:06:41,939 | 00:06:44,156 | You think a halfway house or a shelter for runaways? | You think a halfway house or a shelter for runaways? |
104 | 00:06:44,224 | 00:06:46,826 | - No, I think we're gonna be ringing a lot of doorbells. | - No, I think we're gonna be ringing a lot of doorbells. |
105 | 00:06:46,893 | 00:06:47,944 | - Yeah. | - Yeah. |
106 | 00:06:48,028 | 00:06:51,197 | Oh, b, is this tie on straight? | Oh, b, is this tie on straight? |
107 | 00:06:51,248 | 00:06:52,365 | I mean... | I mean... |
108 | 00:06:52,416 | 00:06:53,833 | - You going to your first communion? | - You going to your first communion? |
109 | 00:06:53,900 | 00:06:55,067 | - You heard the lieu. | - You heard the lieu. |
110 | 00:06:55,118 | 00:06:56,702 | I'm just trying to be more professional. | I'm just trying to be more professional. |
111 | 00:06:56,753 | 00:06:58,204 | - Well, you look sharp, lupes. | - Well, you look sharp, lupes. |
112 | 00:06:58,255 | 00:07:00,239 | Now can we go? | Now can we go? |
113 | 00:07:02,976 | 00:07:04,710 | - This girl's bonnie jones. | - This girl's bonnie jones. |
114 | 00:07:04,761 | 00:07:06,178 | She stayed with us for three weeks. | She stayed with us for three weeks. |
115 | 00:07:06,246 | 00:07:08,714 | I have a picture we took of her for an I.D. | I have a picture we took of her for an I.D. |
116 | 00:07:08,765 | 00:07:12,051 | The other girl I saw a few times out front with bonnie. | The other girl I saw a few times out front with bonnie. |
117 | 00:07:12,102 | 00:07:13,886 | - Okay. You know where we can find bonnie? | - Okay. You know where we can find bonnie? |
118 | 00:07:13,937 | 00:07:15,921 | - No. She left about a week ago. | - No. She left about a week ago. |
119 | 00:07:15,973 | 00:07:17,089 | - Why do you need to talk to her? | - Why do you need to talk to her? |
120 | 00:07:17,140 | 00:07:19,525 | - Oh, this girl, zoe morgan, | - Oh, this girl, zoe morgan, |
121 | 00:07:19,592 | 00:07:22,061 | Her and her family were killed last Tuesday. | Her and her family were killed last Tuesday. |
122 | 00:07:22,112 | 00:07:24,230 | Bonnie might know something about it. | Bonnie might know something about it. |
123 | 00:07:25,482 | 00:07:26,649 | - Damn. | - Damn. |
124 | 00:07:26,733 | 00:07:29,768 | - Any idea why bonnie left the shelter? | - Any idea why bonnie left the shelter? |
125 | 00:07:29,820 | 00:07:30,903 | - Not sure. | - Not sure. |
126 | 00:07:30,954 | 00:07:32,121 | The day before, she got into a fight | The day before, she got into a fight |
127 | 00:07:32,205 | 00:07:33,372 | With this pimp out front. | With this pimp out front. |
128 | 00:07:33,440 | 00:07:34,740 | - His name's freddie. | - His name's freddie. |
129 | 00:07:34,791 | 00:07:36,626 | Bonnie said he stole her pink backpack. | Bonnie said he stole her pink backpack. |
130 | 00:07:36,710 | 00:07:38,944 | Freddie ran off before I could call the cops. | Freddie ran off before I could call the cops. |
131 | 00:07:38,996 | 00:07:40,779 | - Freddie tracked her down to the morgans. | - Freddie tracked her down to the morgans. |
132 | 00:07:40,831 | 00:07:42,131 | If we wanted to find freddie... | If we wanted to find freddie... |
133 | 00:07:42,215 | 00:07:44,000 | - The beat cops have run him off the block a few times. | - The beat cops have run him off the block a few times. |
134 | 00:07:44,084 | 00:07:46,135 | I'm sure they'd have his information. | I'm sure they'd have his information. |
135 | 00:07:46,219 | 00:07:47,303 | [Pounding at door] | [Pounding at door] |
136 | 00:07:47,387 | 00:07:50,890 | - Freddie, it's me, the super, achmed. | - Freddie, it's me, the super, achmed. |
137 | 00:07:50,957 | 00:07:53,809 | L-I told you, he's away on a vacation or something. | L-I told you, he's away on a vacation or something. |
138 | 00:07:53,894 | 00:07:55,394 | - You smelling that? | - You smelling that? |
139 | 00:07:55,462 | 00:07:58,064 | - Yeah. Decomp. | - Yeah. Decomp. |
140 | 00:07:58,131 | 00:07:59,732 | - Hello! | - Hello! |
141 | 00:08:03,854 | 00:08:04,904 | [Clears throat] | [Clears throat] |
142 | 00:08:04,971 | 00:08:06,472 | You never noticed that smell? | You never noticed that smell? |
143 | 00:08:06,523 | 00:08:09,075 | - I got allergies. | - I got allergies. |
144 | 00:08:10,911 | 00:08:13,079 | - I'm covered. | - I'm covered. |
145 | 00:08:13,146 | 00:08:14,163 | Stay here. | Stay here. |
146 | 00:08:19,419 | 00:08:20,986 | - Wow. | - Wow. |
147 | 00:08:22,622 | 00:08:24,457 | Well, to quote curtis mayfield... | Well, to quote curtis mayfield... |
148 | 00:08:24,508 | 00:08:27,093 | Freddie's dead. | Freddie's dead. |
149 | 00:08:27,160 | 00:08:29,011 | - At least a week... | - At least a week... |
150 | 00:08:29,096 | 00:08:30,930 | Which takes takes him out of the running | Which takes takes him out of the running |
151 | 00:08:30,997 | 00:08:32,664 | For killing the morgan family. | For killing the morgan family. |
152 | 00:08:32,716 | 00:08:34,550 | - Whoever killed them probably killed freddie. | - Whoever killed them probably killed freddie. |
153 | 00:08:34,634 | 00:08:35,685 | Check that out. | Check that out. |
154 | 00:08:35,769 | 00:08:38,604 | A knife in the neck... | A knife in the neck... |
155 | 00:08:38,671 | 00:08:41,807 | A killer who signs his work. | A killer who signs his work. |
156 | 00:08:47,224 | 00:08:48,725 | - Nothing from the canvass. You? | - Nothing from the canvass. You? |
157 | 00:08:48,776 | 00:08:51,477 | - There's eight kinds of nasty down here, but I got something. | - There's eight kinds of nasty down here, but I got something. |
158 | 00:08:51,562 | 00:08:54,280 | Could be bonnie's backpack. | Could be bonnie's backpack. |
159 | 00:08:54,364 | 00:08:57,066 | [Backpack unzipping] | [Backpack unzipping] |
160 | 00:08:57,117 | 00:09:00,036 | - Brush, dark hair... | - Brush, dark hair... |
161 | 00:09:00,103 | 00:09:01,954 | Smokes... | Smokes... |
162 | 00:09:05,793 | 00:09:07,943 | - Bonnie in better days. | - Bonnie in better days. |
163 | 00:09:10,080 | 00:09:12,548 | - And two ticket stubs to the horrorcore fest | - And two ticket stubs to the horrorcore fest |
164 | 00:09:12,616 | 00:09:13,783 | At the red bar. | At the red bar. |
165 | 00:09:13,834 | 00:09:15,802 | This show was the night before bonnie | This show was the night before bonnie |
166 | 00:09:15,886 | 00:09:17,804 | Had her fight with freddie. | Had her fight with freddie. |
167 | 00:09:20,557 | 00:09:23,643 | - Sorry, man, juggalos all look alike to me. | - Sorry, man, juggalos all look alike to me. |
168 | 00:09:23,727 | 00:09:25,228 | - Juggalos? | - Juggalos? |
169 | 00:09:25,295 | 00:09:28,014 | - That's what those horrorcore rap psychos call themselves. | - That's what those horrorcore rap psychos call themselves. |
170 | 00:09:28,098 | 00:09:30,349 | They put on clown make-up, dye their hair. | They put on clown make-up, dye their hair. |
171 | 00:09:30,434 | 00:09:32,301 | They're freaks, man. | They're freaks, man. |
172 | 00:09:32,369 | 00:09:33,803 | - That's a matter of opinion, yeah? | - That's a matter of opinion, yeah? |
173 | 00:09:33,871 | 00:09:35,805 | - Oh, a matter of fact. | - Oh, a matter of fact. |
174 | 00:09:35,856 | 00:09:38,174 | Their music's all about how much they hate everybody | Their music's all about how much they hate everybody |
175 | 00:09:38,242 | 00:09:39,692 | And what they're gonna do about it. | And what they're gonna do about it. |
176 | 00:09:39,777 | 00:09:41,194 | Their promoter left these. | Their promoter left these. |
177 | 00:09:41,278 | 00:09:44,997 | Help yourself to a horrorcore cd. | Help yourself to a horrorcore cd. |
178 | 00:09:45,082 | 00:09:46,699 | This is one of the rappers from the show. | This is one of the rappers from the show. |
179 | 00:09:46,784 | 00:09:48,668 | aaah! | aaah! |
180 | 00:09:48,752 | 00:09:50,670 | murder! | murder! |
181 | 00:09:50,754 | 00:09:51,754 | - You cater to this crowd? | - You cater to this crowd? |
182 | 00:09:51,822 | 00:09:53,489 | - No, they're not that popular. | - No, they're not that popular. |
183 | 00:09:53,540 | 00:09:55,658 | I book the acts a few times a year. | I book the acts a few times a year. |
184 | 00:09:55,709 | 00:09:57,794 | - So where do the juggalos hang out? | - So where do the juggalos hang out? |
185 | 00:09:57,845 | 00:10:00,129 | - In front of their computers. They're losers. | - In front of their computers. They're losers. |
186 | 00:10:00,180 | 00:10:01,330 | [Glass shatters] | [Glass shatters] |
187 | 00:10:01,381 | 00:10:03,182 | - [Grunts] New barback. | - [Grunts] New barback. |
188 | 00:10:03,267 | 00:10:05,718 | [Man rapping in video] | [Man rapping in video] |
189 | 00:10:05,803 | 00:10:07,603 | - If the killer was looking for inspiration, | - If the killer was looking for inspiration, |
190 | 00:10:07,671 | 00:10:09,272 | This'd be the place. | This'd be the place. |
191 | 00:10:09,339 | 00:10:13,359 | - Right down to his signature move. | - Right down to his signature move. |
192 | 00:10:13,443 | 00:10:16,479 | - cut my head off, grow another... | - cut my head off, grow another... |
193 | 00:10:16,530 | 00:10:17,980 | - The band's website doesn't give a clue | - The band's website doesn't give a clue |
194 | 00:10:18,031 | 00:10:19,732 | What this knife-in-neck thing's about. | What this knife-in-neck thing's about. |
195 | 00:10:19,817 | 00:10:21,984 | - Well, kids tend to brag about their crimes. | - Well, kids tend to brag about their crimes. |
196 | 00:10:22,035 | 00:10:24,186 | Check with the message board. | Check with the message board. |
197 | 00:10:24,238 | 00:10:27,824 | - There's a lot of messages to the band. | - There's a lot of messages to the band. |
198 | 00:10:27,875 | 00:10:31,060 | - Search "knife in neck." [Keys clacking] | - Search "knife in neck." [Keys clacking] |
199 | 00:10:32,696 | 00:10:37,300 | - One hit... it's a link. | - One hit... it's a link. |
200 | 00:10:37,367 | 00:10:39,669 | - "Therealgore. Com... | - "Therealgore. Com... |
201 | 00:10:39,720 | 00:10:42,054 | Photos of the grotesque for the disturbed." | Photos of the grotesque for the disturbed." |
202 | 00:10:42,139 | 00:10:43,556 | - That's nice. They give you a choice. | - That's nice. They give you a choice. |
203 | 00:10:43,640 | 00:10:46,058 | You can choose car accidents, suicides, decapitations. | You can choose car accidents, suicides, decapitations. |
204 | 00:10:46,143 | 00:10:48,427 | - "Knife in the neck." | - "Knife in the neck." |
205 | 00:10:51,648 | 00:10:54,267 | - That... that's... that's our victim, don morgan. | - That... that's... that's our victim, don morgan. |
206 | 00:10:57,271 | 00:10:59,155 | - Look... | - Look... |
207 | 00:10:59,222 | 00:11:01,574 | Our photo has footprints that theirs doesn't have. | Our photo has footprints that theirs doesn't have. |
208 | 00:11:01,658 | 00:11:04,226 | - Their picture was taken before the police got there | - Their picture was taken before the police got there |
209 | 00:11:04,278 | 00:11:05,278 | By the perp. | By the perp. |
210 | 00:11:05,362 | 00:11:07,897 | - It was posted by "crazyj." | - It was posted by "crazyj." |
211 | 00:11:09,783 | 00:11:11,901 | - Finding crazyj is not gonna be so easy. | - Finding crazyj is not gonna be so easy. |
212 | 00:11:11,952 | 00:11:14,904 | He uses proxies to hide his I.P. Address, | He uses proxies to hide his I.P. Address, |
213 | 00:11:14,955 | 00:11:18,291 | And he's been busy trading blood-and-guts photos | And he's been busy trading blood-and-guts photos |
214 | 00:11:18,375 | 00:11:19,876 | With other people online. | With other people online. |
215 | 00:11:19,927 | 00:11:23,579 | Porno I get, but this stuff? | Porno I get, but this stuff? |
216 | 00:11:23,630 | 00:11:25,648 | - I used to know a couple of a.D.A. S | - I used to know a couple of a.D.A. S |
217 | 00:11:25,716 | 00:11:27,934 | Who'd swap polaroids of crime scenes... | Who'd swap polaroids of crime scenes... |
218 | 00:11:28,018 | 00:11:29,468 | The bloodier the better. | The bloodier the better. |
219 | 00:11:29,553 | 00:11:31,187 | - Yeah, when we were kids, my brother and I | - Yeah, when we were kids, my brother and I |
220 | 00:11:31,254 | 00:11:33,439 | Used to collect civil war bubble gum cards... | Used to collect civil war bubble gum cards... |
221 | 00:11:33,523 | 00:11:35,391 | Bodies blown to bits, | Bodies blown to bits, |
222 | 00:11:35,442 | 00:11:37,393 | Bellies gutted by bayonets, | Bellies gutted by bayonets, |
223 | 00:11:37,444 | 00:11:38,895 | All in full color. | All in full color. |
224 | 00:11:38,946 | 00:11:40,696 | [Chuckles] We loved them. | [Chuckles] We loved them. |
225 | 00:11:40,764 | 00:11:43,115 | - I found some messages from crazyj | - I found some messages from crazyj |
226 | 00:11:43,200 | 00:11:45,434 | On an anime and comic-book site. | On an anime and comic-book site. |
227 | 00:11:45,485 | 00:11:47,904 | He's a big fan of graphic novels. | He's a big fan of graphic novels. |
228 | 00:11:47,955 | 00:11:49,605 | - Yeah? Which ones? | - Yeah? Which ones? |
229 | 00:11:49,656 | 00:11:50,940 | - Take a look. | - Take a look. |
230 | 00:11:50,991 | 00:11:52,775 | His top ten of all time. | His top ten of all time. |
231 | 00:11:52,826 | 00:11:54,076 | - The gore house mysteries... | - The gore house mysteries... |
232 | 00:11:54,127 | 00:11:56,111 | It's okay. I wouldn't put it on my top ten. | It's okay. I wouldn't put it on my top ten. |
233 | 00:11:56,163 | 00:11:58,080 | Shrieking lunatic is pretty good. | Shrieking lunatic is pretty good. |
234 | 00:11:58,131 | 00:12:00,166 | He posted some of his artwork. | He posted some of his artwork. |
235 | 00:12:00,250 | 00:12:01,217 | Click that. | Click that. |
236 | 00:12:01,284 | 00:12:03,336 | - Mm-hmm. | - Mm-hmm. |
237 | 00:12:07,307 | 00:12:08,724 | - Looks familiar. | - Looks familiar. |
238 | 00:12:08,792 | 00:12:10,426 | - An artist who draws from reality. | - An artist who draws from reality. |
239 | 00:12:10,494 | 00:12:13,128 | - And he's working on another one called "black madonna." | - And he's working on another one called "black madonna." |
240 | 00:12:13,180 | 00:12:15,648 | "With red and white dreadlocks | "With red and white dreadlocks |
241 | 00:12:15,732 | 00:12:19,101 | Spread around her head like a halo." | Spread around her head like a halo." |
242 | 00:12:21,805 | 00:12:24,323 | - What are you doing here? | - What are you doing here? |
243 | 00:12:24,408 | 00:12:25,508 | - Have you heard from bonnie? | - Have you heard from bonnie? |
244 | 00:12:25,575 | 00:12:27,159 | - No. Can't we do this tomorrow? | - No. Can't we do this tomorrow? |
245 | 00:12:27,244 | 00:12:28,244 | - We believe she's hooked up | - We believe she's hooked up |
246 | 00:12:28,311 | 00:12:29,812 | With a very dangerous individual. | With a very dangerous individual. |
247 | 00:12:29,863 | 00:12:31,330 | - Is there some problem here? | - Is there some problem here? |
248 | 00:12:31,415 | 00:12:33,482 | - They're looking for bonnie. - Whose green jacket is that? | - They're looking for bonnie. - Whose green jacket is that? |
249 | 00:12:33,533 | 00:12:35,084 | It's bonnie's, isn't it? She's here. | It's bonnie's, isn't it? She's here. |
250 | 00:12:35,151 | 00:12:36,786 | - She says you've been harassing her. | - She says you've been harassing her. |
251 | 00:12:36,837 | 00:12:39,255 | [Door slams] | [Door slams] |
252 | 00:12:39,322 | 00:12:40,589 | - Hey, okay, I'm going. | - Hey, okay, I'm going. |
253 | 00:12:40,657 | 00:12:42,425 | - You got to let me in right now, please. | - You got to let me in right now, please. |
254 | 00:12:42,492 | 00:12:44,043 | [Door opens] Where is she? | [Door opens] Where is she? |
255 | 00:12:44,127 | 00:12:45,494 | - Playing with sasha. | - Playing with sasha. |
256 | 00:12:47,681 | 00:12:49,181 | [Door closes] | [Door closes] |
257 | 00:13:01,979 | 00:13:05,281 | - Aah! | - Aah! |
258 | 00:13:05,348 | 00:13:06,983 | [Groaning] | [Groaning] |
259 | 00:13:07,034 | 00:13:08,851 | - Bonnie? | - Bonnie? |
260 | 00:13:12,289 | 00:13:13,856 | It's okay. It's okay. | It's okay. It's okay. |
261 | 00:13:13,907 | 00:13:16,025 | Just relax. | Just relax. |
262 | 00:13:16,076 | 00:13:17,860 | Bonnie, put the knife down. | Bonnie, put the knife down. |
263 | 00:13:17,911 | 00:13:19,628 | Let her go. - Oh, my... | Let her go. - Oh, my... |
264 | 00:13:19,696 | 00:13:21,831 | - Bonnie, let her go. | - Bonnie, let her go. |
265 | 00:13:21,882 | 00:13:24,500 | - [Breathing shakily] | - [Breathing shakily] |
266 | 00:13:24,551 | 00:13:26,635 | - It's gonna be all right. | - It's gonna be all right. |
267 | 00:13:26,703 | 00:13:28,971 | It's okay. | It's okay. |
268 | 00:13:29,039 | 00:13:30,873 | Just put the knife down. | Just put the knife down. |
269 | 00:13:37,597 | 00:13:39,565 | Come on. | Come on. |
270 | 00:13:40,884 | 00:13:42,651 | - Sasha. | - Sasha. |
271 | 00:13:46,523 | 00:13:50,493 | - Kill me, or I will kill myself. | - Kill me, or I will kill myself. |
272 | 00:13:55,282 | 00:13:57,233 | - It's gonna snow tonight. | - It's gonna snow tonight. |
273 | 00:13:57,300 | 00:14:00,803 | You can smell it in the air. | You can smell it in the air. |
274 | 00:14:00,871 | 00:14:02,338 | I remember when I was a kid | I remember when I was a kid |
275 | 00:14:02,405 | 00:14:05,875 | How I'd look out the window before I went to bed, | How I'd look out the window before I went to bed, |
276 | 00:14:05,926 | 00:14:10,212 | Waiting for the snow, hoping for a snow day. | Waiting for the snow, hoping for a snow day. |
277 | 00:14:11,748 | 00:14:15,134 | And then I'd hear the snow falling on the window | And then I'd hear the snow falling on the window |
278 | 00:14:15,218 | 00:14:16,919 | While I fell asleep. | While I fell asleep. |
279 | 00:14:18,772 | 00:14:21,323 | And I'd wake up... | And I'd wake up... |
280 | 00:14:21,391 | 00:14:24,610 | And the whole world... | And the whole world... |
281 | 00:14:24,694 | 00:14:28,697 | Would be clean and white. | Would be clean and white. |
282 | 00:14:30,901 | 00:14:33,769 | - [Breathing shakily] | - [Breathing shakily] |
283 | 00:14:47,300 | 00:14:48,834 | - Okay. | - Okay. |
284 | 00:14:48,919 | 00:14:50,386 | Good girl. | Good girl. |
285 | 00:14:50,453 | 00:14:53,055 | Stand up. | Stand up. |
286 | 00:14:53,123 | 00:14:55,391 | [Handcuffs rattle] | [Handcuffs rattle] |
287 | 00:14:57,727 | 00:15:00,646 | - [Groaning] | - [Groaning] |
288 | 00:15:02,132 | 00:15:04,984 | - "Justin sachs"...19. | - "Justin sachs"...19. |
289 | 00:15:05,068 | 00:15:07,987 | This address still good? | This address still good? |
290 | 00:15:08,071 | 00:15:10,072 | - [Groans loudly] | - [Groans loudly] |
291 | 00:15:10,140 | 00:15:12,741 | - I bet you didn't think a big man like me | - I bet you didn't think a big man like me |
292 | 00:15:12,809 | 00:15:14,160 | Could bust a move like that, did you? | Could bust a move like that, did you? |
293 | 00:15:14,244 | 00:15:16,645 | - Go screw yourself, okay? [Laughs] | - Go screw yourself, okay? [Laughs] |
294 | 00:15:16,696 | 00:15:18,647 | Screw the police! | Screw the police! |
295 | 00:15:18,698 | 00:15:20,783 | Screw the morgans! | Screw the morgans! |
296 | 00:15:20,834 | 00:15:24,486 | Screw all 53 states! | Screw all 53 states! |
297 | 00:15:26,873 | 00:15:28,290 | - We're gonna need an address, | - We're gonna need an address, |
298 | 00:15:28,341 | 00:15:32,128 | Like where you lived before the shelter. | Like where you lived before the shelter. |
299 | 00:15:32,179 | 00:15:34,997 | - Do your parents know you're in new york? | - Do your parents know you're in new york? |
300 | 00:15:35,048 | 00:15:38,000 | - I'm not sure. | - I'm not sure. |
301 | 00:15:38,068 | 00:15:39,969 | - Well, we can call them for you | - Well, we can call them for you |
302 | 00:15:40,036 | 00:15:41,904 | And let them know you're in trouble. | And let them know you're in trouble. |
303 | 00:15:43,940 | 00:15:46,675 | - Must be tough living in a shelter. | - Must be tough living in a shelter. |
304 | 00:15:46,743 | 00:15:49,511 | - It's not so bad. | - It's not so bad. |
305 | 00:15:49,563 | 00:15:52,148 | - But better than home, right? | - But better than home, right? |
306 | 00:15:53,867 | 00:15:55,851 | - I don't know. I guess. | - I don't know. I guess. |
307 | 00:15:55,919 | 00:15:57,987 | - Was justin taking care of you? | - Was justin taking care of you? |
308 | 00:15:58,054 | 00:16:01,073 | - Yeah, but not how you think. | - Yeah, but not how you think. |
309 | 00:16:01,158 | 00:16:04,059 | - You mean he protected you from people like freddie? | - You mean he protected you from people like freddie? |
310 | 00:16:04,127 | 00:16:06,629 | - I don't want to talk about that. | - I don't want to talk about that. |
311 | 00:16:06,696 | 00:16:11,634 | - Maybe you don't understand the situation. | - Maybe you don't understand the situation. |
312 | 00:16:11,701 | 00:16:14,837 | You're about to be charged with five murders. | You're about to be charged with five murders. |
313 | 00:16:14,905 | 00:16:17,139 | You don't want to get your parents involved, | You don't want to get your parents involved, |
314 | 00:16:17,207 | 00:16:19,058 | We can understand that. | We can understand that. |
315 | 00:16:19,142 | 00:16:23,095 | But you need to explain yourself, bonnie. | But you need to explain yourself, bonnie. |
316 | 00:16:23,180 | 00:16:24,546 | The longer you wait... | The longer you wait... |
317 | 00:16:24,598 | 00:16:26,515 | - My name's not bonnie. | - My name's not bonnie. |
318 | 00:16:26,566 | 00:16:28,751 | - Okay. | - Okay. |
319 | 00:16:28,818 | 00:16:30,352 | What's your name? | What's your name? |
320 | 00:16:30,420 | 00:16:33,222 | - I don't know. I don't... | - I don't know. I don't... |
321 | 00:16:33,273 | 00:16:34,773 | I don't... I don't remember. | I don't... I don't remember. |
322 | 00:16:34,858 | 00:16:38,777 | I can't remember who I am or where I'm from. | I can't remember who I am or where I'm from. |
323 | 00:16:38,862 | 00:16:42,564 | Please help me. I can't remember anything. | Please help me. I can't remember anything. |
324 | 00:16:53,619 | 00:16:56,487 | - My real name's not bonnie. | - My real name's not bonnie. |
325 | 00:16:56,539 | 00:16:58,523 | That's what justin called me. | That's what justin called me. |
326 | 00:16:58,591 | 00:17:00,325 | - How did you meet justin? | - How did you meet justin? |
327 | 00:17:00,393 | 00:17:02,060 | - I was in times square, | - I was in times square, |
328 | 00:17:02,128 | 00:17:04,930 | And this creep, freddie, wanted me to come stay with him, | And this creep, freddie, wanted me to come stay with him, |
329 | 00:17:04,997 | 00:17:07,599 | And justin scared him away | And justin scared him away |
330 | 00:17:07,667 | 00:17:10,168 | And told me that freddie was a pimp. | And told me that freddie was a pimp. |
331 | 00:17:10,236 | 00:17:13,004 | - Okay. What did you do after that? | - Okay. What did you do after that? |
332 | 00:17:13,072 | 00:17:16,174 | Justin bought me a pizza, | Justin bought me a pizza, |
333 | 00:17:16,225 | 00:17:18,343 | And then he took me to the shelter, | And then he took me to the shelter, |
334 | 00:17:18,411 | 00:17:20,478 | And he told me that I'd be safe there. | And he told me that I'd be safe there. |
335 | 00:17:20,546 | 00:17:22,864 | - What else did you do with justin? | - What else did you do with justin? |
336 | 00:17:22,949 | 00:17:27,285 | - Um, we went to see a lot of these horrorcore bands. | - Um, we went to see a lot of these horrorcore bands. |
337 | 00:17:27,353 | 00:17:30,188 | We listened to a lot of that music. | We listened to a lot of that music. |
338 | 00:17:30,256 | 00:17:32,824 | - Do you remember how you got to new york? | - Do you remember how you got to new york? |
339 | 00:17:32,875 | 00:17:35,427 | - On a bus. | - On a bus. |
340 | 00:17:35,494 | 00:17:37,996 | But I don't know where it came from. | But I don't know where it came from. |
341 | 00:17:38,064 | 00:17:40,498 | - Your parents... are they alive? | - Your parents... are they alive? |
342 | 00:17:40,566 | 00:17:44,302 | - I don't know. I can't even picture them. | - I don't know. I can't even picture them. |
343 | 00:17:44,370 | 00:17:45,637 | - You know, bonnie, | - You know, bonnie, |
344 | 00:17:45,705 | 00:17:48,807 | The police put your photograph on the internet, | The police put your photograph on the internet, |
345 | 00:17:48,874 | 00:17:51,176 | In case anybody might recognize you. | In case anybody might recognize you. |
346 | 00:17:51,243 | 00:17:53,595 | Is that okay with you? | Is that okay with you? |
347 | 00:17:53,679 | 00:17:54,813 | - I mean, yeah. | - I mean, yeah. |
348 | 00:17:54,880 | 00:17:57,399 | Isn't it good if somebody recognizes me? | Isn't it good if somebody recognizes me? |
349 | 00:18:00,953 | 00:18:04,105 | - You had this photograph with you. | - You had this photograph with you. |
350 | 00:18:04,190 | 00:18:07,525 | - Um, I found it in my backpack. | - Um, I found it in my backpack. |
351 | 00:18:07,593 | 00:18:10,562 | I think it might be me, but I'm not sure. | I think it might be me, but I'm not sure. |
352 | 00:18:10,630 | 00:18:15,300 | - Do you remember playing in the snow? | - Do you remember playing in the snow? |
353 | 00:18:17,803 | 00:18:19,404 | - No. | - No. |
354 | 00:18:21,874 | 00:18:24,075 | Can you help me remember who I am? | Can you help me remember who I am? |
355 | 00:18:24,126 | 00:18:26,177 | - Well, that's not why I'm here, bonnie. | - Well, that's not why I'm here, bonnie. |
356 | 00:18:26,245 | 00:18:28,579 | I'm not here to help you remember. | I'm not here to help you remember. |
357 | 00:18:31,050 | 00:18:32,784 | You disappointed? | You disappointed? |
358 | 00:18:32,852 | 00:18:34,219 | Angry? | Angry? |
359 | 00:18:34,270 | 00:18:35,787 | Hmm? | Hmm? |
360 | 00:18:35,855 | 00:18:38,273 | Here... | Here... |
361 | 00:18:38,357 | 00:18:40,025 | Slap me in the face. | Slap me in the face. |
362 | 00:18:40,092 | 00:18:42,160 | Go ahead. | Go ahead. |
363 | 00:18:42,228 | 00:18:45,280 | Take it out on me. It's okay. | Take it out on me. It's okay. |
364 | 00:18:45,364 | 00:18:46,598 | - No. | - No. |
365 | 00:18:46,666 | 00:18:48,633 | - Why not? Are you afraid? | - Why not? Are you afraid? |
366 | 00:18:48,701 | 00:18:51,236 | - No. L-I don't want to hurt you. | - No. L-I don't want to hurt you. |
367 | 00:18:51,303 | 00:18:53,038 | That's wrong. | That's wrong. |
368 | 00:18:54,840 | 00:18:56,107 | - Whatever else is ailing her, | - Whatever else is ailing her, |
369 | 00:18:56,158 | 00:18:58,209 | It hasn't affected her sense of right and wrong. | It hasn't affected her sense of right and wrong. |
370 | 00:18:58,277 | 00:18:59,494 | - Good enough for me. | - Good enough for me. |
371 | 00:18:59,578 | 00:19:01,129 | - Not for me. | - Not for me. |
372 | 00:19:01,213 | 00:19:03,631 | What about her amnesia? | What about her amnesia? |
373 | 00:19:03,716 | 00:19:05,800 | - Global dissociative amnesia, | - Global dissociative amnesia, |
374 | 00:19:05,885 | 00:19:09,254 | Which she's claiming to have, is beyond rare. | Which she's claiming to have, is beyond rare. |
375 | 00:19:09,305 | 00:19:12,090 | And there's usually some fubar brain injury to explain it, | And there's usually some fubar brain injury to explain it, |
376 | 00:19:12,141 | 00:19:13,825 | Which I didn't detect in this girl. | Which I didn't detect in this girl. |
377 | 00:19:13,893 | 00:19:16,428 | - So her claim is a crock. She's acting. | - So her claim is a crock. She's acting. |
378 | 00:19:16,495 | 00:19:19,497 | - Absent a medical history and a full neurological workup, | - Absent a medical history and a full neurological workup, |
379 | 00:19:19,565 | 00:19:20,932 | Yeah, it's a crock. | Yeah, it's a crock. |
380 | 00:19:21,000 | 00:19:22,567 | But I could be wrong. | But I could be wrong. |
381 | 00:19:22,635 | 00:19:24,853 | - Ain't science grand? | - Ain't science grand? |
382 | 00:19:24,937 | 00:19:26,838 | - What about justin's influence over her? | - What about justin's influence over her? |
383 | 00:19:26,906 | 00:19:28,823 | I mean, he saved her from a pimp, | I mean, he saved her from a pimp, |
384 | 00:19:28,908 | 00:19:30,859 | Gave her food and shelter. | Gave her food and shelter. |
385 | 00:19:30,943 | 00:19:32,844 | - She needed his approval to survive, no doubt. | - She needed his approval to survive, no doubt. |
386 | 00:19:32,912 | 00:19:34,579 | She had to like what he liked. | She had to like what he liked. |
387 | 00:19:34,646 | 00:19:36,581 | - Horrorcore music and violence. | - Horrorcore music and violence. |
388 | 00:19:36,648 | 00:19:38,500 | - Well, if we're all agreed she's competent to stand trial, | - Well, if we're all agreed she's competent to stand trial, |
389 | 00:19:38,584 | 00:19:40,668 | We'll move ahead with the morgan homicides first. | We'll move ahead with the morgan homicides first. |
390 | 00:19:40,753 | 00:19:41,786 | [Cell phone beeps] | [Cell phone beeps] |
391 | 00:19:41,837 | 00:19:44,422 | - The police have bonnie's parents. | - The police have bonnie's parents. |
392 | 00:19:44,490 | 00:19:46,674 | - This is what your daughter looked like | - This is what your daughter looked like |
393 | 00:19:46,759 | 00:19:48,326 | When she was arrested. | When she was arrested. |
394 | 00:19:48,377 | 00:19:50,845 | - Oh, my god, amanda. Is she all right? | - Oh, my god, amanda. Is she all right? |
395 | 00:19:50,930 | 00:19:52,664 | - She was examined by a doctor. | - She was examined by a doctor. |
396 | 00:19:52,732 | 00:19:54,682 | She's in good physical health. | She's in good physical health. |
397 | 00:19:54,767 | 00:19:56,217 | - What was amanda arrested for? | - What was amanda arrested for? |
398 | 00:19:56,302 | 00:19:58,853 | - She's charged as an accomplice in five murders. | - She's charged as an accomplice in five murders. |
399 | 00:19:58,938 | 00:20:01,339 | - Oh, god. That's impossible. - Oh, my god. | - Oh, god. That's impossible. - Oh, my god. |
400 | 00:20:01,390 | 00:20:03,191 | - When was the last time you heard from your daughter? | - When was the last time you heard from your daughter? |
401 | 00:20:03,275 | 00:20:04,559 | - 41 days ago. | - 41 days ago. |
402 | 00:20:04,643 | 00:20:06,861 | She left home for choir practice, | She left home for choir practice, |
403 | 00:20:06,946 | 00:20:08,530 | And she just disappeared. | And she just disappeared. |
404 | 00:20:08,614 | 00:20:10,949 | And then my sister saw her picture on the internet. | And then my sister saw her picture on the internet. |
405 | 00:20:11,016 | 00:20:12,033 | - Look at her. | - Look at her. |
406 | 00:20:12,118 | 00:20:13,401 | Amanda would never hurt anybody. | Amanda would never hurt anybody. |
407 | 00:20:13,486 | 00:20:15,236 | She sings in the minneapolis children's choir. | She sings in the minneapolis children's choir. |
408 | 00:20:15,321 | 00:20:16,521 | She tutors poor kids. | She tutors poor kids. |
409 | 00:20:16,572 | 00:20:18,740 | - We'd like to see her as soon as possible. | - We'd like to see her as soon as possible. |
410 | 00:20:18,824 | 00:20:20,325 | Does she have a lawyer? | Does she have a lawyer? |
411 | 00:20:20,376 | 00:20:22,193 | - A legal aid lawyer was appointed. | - A legal aid lawyer was appointed. |
412 | 00:20:22,244 | 00:20:24,295 | - Well, I think we can do better than that. | - Well, I think we can do better than that. |
413 | 00:20:24,363 | 00:20:25,713 | - Mr. Evans, you should know | - Mr. Evans, you should know |
414 | 00:20:25,798 | 00:20:28,699 | That she's claiming to have amnesia. | That she's claiming to have amnesia. |
415 | 00:20:28,751 | 00:20:30,368 | She even told a court psychiatrist | She even told a court psychiatrist |
416 | 00:20:30,419 | 00:20:32,337 | That she doesn't remember her parents. | That she doesn't remember her parents. |
417 | 00:20:32,404 | 00:20:33,588 | - "Claiming"? | - "Claiming"? |
418 | 00:20:33,672 | 00:20:35,223 | Why do you think she disappeared in the first place? | Why do you think she disappeared in the first place? |
419 | 00:20:35,307 | 00:20:36,391 | Come on, darlene. | Come on, darlene. |
420 | 00:20:44,883 | 00:20:47,101 | - Amanda? | - Amanda? |
421 | 00:20:47,186 | 00:20:49,020 | It's mom. | It's mom. |
422 | 00:20:49,071 | 00:20:51,406 | - Amanda? | - Amanda? |
423 | 00:20:51,490 | 00:20:52,824 | We're your parents. | We're your parents. |
424 | 00:20:52,891 | 00:20:54,692 | - We found you. | - We found you. |
425 | 00:20:54,743 | 00:20:57,745 | [Tearfully] Oh, thank god we found you. | [Tearfully] Oh, thank god we found you. |
426 | 00:21:00,249 | 00:21:02,233 | - Amanda? That's my name? | - Amanda? That's my name? |
427 | 00:21:02,284 | 00:21:04,335 | - Amanda evans. | - Amanda evans. |
428 | 00:21:04,403 | 00:21:06,671 | You're our baby girl. | You're our baby girl. |
429 | 00:21:06,738 | 00:21:08,039 | - Look... | - Look... |
430 | 00:21:08,090 | 00:21:09,424 | This is you. | This is you. |
431 | 00:21:09,508 | 00:21:11,576 | This is last winter. | This is last winter. |
432 | 00:21:11,627 | 00:21:15,246 | You had such beautiful hair. | You had such beautiful hair. |
433 | 00:21:15,297 | 00:21:18,550 | - You're safe now, amanda. | - You're safe now, amanda. |
434 | 00:21:18,601 | 00:21:20,635 | We'll take care of you. - [Crying] | We'll take care of you. - [Crying] |
435 | 00:21:20,719 | 00:21:23,271 | - Okay. Show's over. | - Okay. Show's over. |
436 | 00:21:23,355 | 00:21:27,091 | I'd like some privacy with my client and her parents. | I'd like some privacy with my client and her parents. |
437 | 00:21:30,529 | 00:21:34,132 | - I think the show's just starting. | - I think the show's just starting. |
438 | 00:21:34,200 | 00:21:36,234 | [Door opens, buzzer sounds] | [Door opens, buzzer sounds] |
439 | 00:21:39,171 | 00:21:41,906 | - Last spring amanda wiped out on a bike trail | - Last spring amanda wiped out on a bike trail |
440 | 00:21:41,957 | 00:21:44,492 | And was knocked unconscious. | And was knocked unconscious. |
441 | 00:21:44,577 | 00:21:47,045 | They said it was only a concussion, | They said it was only a concussion, |
442 | 00:21:47,112 | 00:21:51,783 | But she started having episodes where she'd get disoriented. | But she started having episodes where she'd get disoriented. |
443 | 00:21:51,851 | 00:21:53,885 | - Can you give us some examples? | - Can you give us some examples? |
444 | 00:21:53,953 | 00:21:55,687 | - She left for school one day, | - She left for school one day, |
445 | 00:21:55,754 | 00:21:57,021 | And the police found her | And the police found her |
446 | 00:21:57,089 | 00:22:00,391 | Wandering around a parking lot five miles away. | Wandering around a parking lot five miles away. |
447 | 00:22:00,459 | 00:22:03,127 | She couldn't remember how she got there. | She couldn't remember how she got there. |
448 | 00:22:03,178 | 00:22:06,097 | - Has she received any medical care | - Has she received any medical care |
449 | 00:22:06,148 | 00:22:07,965 | For this problem? | For this problem? |
450 | 00:22:08,017 | 00:22:12,036 | - Her doctor thinks there's brain injury, | - Her doctor thinks there's brain injury, |
451 | 00:22:12,104 | 00:22:14,839 | But amanda's mris were normal. | But amanda's mris were normal. |
452 | 00:22:17,109 | 00:22:19,444 | I know she's in there somewhere. | I know she's in there somewhere. |
453 | 00:22:19,495 | 00:22:23,314 | We're sorry for the families of the victims, | We're sorry for the families of the victims, |
454 | 00:22:23,365 | 00:22:26,517 | But the real amanda could never have done this. | But the real amanda could never have done this. |
455 | 00:22:35,344 | 00:22:38,496 | - What parking lot was amanda found in? | - What parking lot was amanda found in? |
456 | 00:22:38,564 | 00:22:41,182 | - The southdale shopping center. | - The southdale shopping center. |
457 | 00:22:41,267 | 00:22:43,000 | - A shopping mall. | - A shopping mall. |
458 | 00:22:43,052 | 00:22:45,169 | Isn't it possible | Isn't it possible |
459 | 00:22:45,220 | 00:22:49,340 | She just ditched school to go to the mall? | She just ditched school to go to the mall? |
460 | 00:22:49,391 | 00:22:51,776 | - The police said she was disoriented. | - The police said she was disoriented. |
461 | 00:22:51,844 | 00:22:54,178 | - Well, when she left home, the day she disappeared, | - Well, when she left home, the day she disappeared, |
462 | 00:22:54,246 | 00:22:55,546 | How did she seem to you? | How did she seem to you? |
463 | 00:22:55,614 | 00:22:57,014 | - She seemed fine, | - She seemed fine, |
464 | 00:22:57,066 | 00:22:59,083 | Or else we wouldn't have let her leave home. | Or else we wouldn't have let her leave home. |
465 | 00:22:59,151 | 00:23:01,686 | - We have a report here that says that she went | - We have a report here that says that she went |
466 | 00:23:01,737 | 00:23:06,958 | To an atm and emptied her bank account of $130. | To an atm and emptied her bank account of $130. |
467 | 00:23:07,025 | 00:23:08,192 | Do you know if she did that | Do you know if she did that |
468 | 00:23:08,243 | 00:23:11,362 | Before or after she was struck with amnesia? | Before or after she was struck with amnesia? |
469 | 00:23:11,430 | 00:23:13,031 | - Well, how do I know? | - Well, how do I know? |
470 | 00:23:13,098 | 00:23:15,800 | - Before or after she bought a bus ticket to new york city? | - Before or after she bought a bus ticket to new york city? |
471 | 00:23:15,867 | 00:23:18,035 | - Please, mr. Cutter, there's something wrong | - Please, mr. Cutter, there's something wrong |
472 | 00:23:18,087 | 00:23:19,370 | With my daughter. | With my daughter. |
473 | 00:23:19,438 | 00:23:22,440 | I know it. | I know it. |
474 | 00:23:22,508 | 00:23:24,509 | - We have proof of a head injury, | - We have proof of a head injury, |
475 | 00:23:24,560 | 00:23:27,095 | Of her disorientation, of memory loss. | Of her disorientation, of memory loss. |
476 | 00:23:27,179 | 00:23:29,564 | - All before her arrival in new york. | - All before her arrival in new york. |
477 | 00:23:29,648 | 00:23:32,817 | And there's no dispute that she remembers her adventures | And there's no dispute that she remembers her adventures |
478 | 00:23:32,884 | 00:23:33,985 | With justin sachs. | With justin sachs. |
479 | 00:23:34,052 | 00:23:35,820 | - Which is irrelevant to the fact | - Which is irrelevant to the fact |
480 | 00:23:35,887 | 00:23:37,888 | That she has no memory of who she is. | That she has no memory of who she is. |
481 | 00:23:37,940 | 00:23:40,825 | - She remembers her values. | - She remembers her values. |
482 | 00:23:40,892 | 00:23:44,162 | She can tell right from wrong. | She can tell right from wrong. |
483 | 00:23:44,229 | 00:23:46,164 | And that's more relevant here | And that's more relevant here |
484 | 00:23:46,231 | 00:23:48,199 | Than the details of her identity. | Than the details of her identity. |
485 | 00:23:48,250 | 00:23:49,917 | - All right. All right. | - All right. All right. |
486 | 00:23:50,002 | 00:23:53,171 | I need a few days to rule on her fitness for trial. | I need a few days to rule on her fitness for trial. |
487 | 00:23:53,238 | 00:23:56,758 | But given the subjective nature of her psych evaluations, | But given the subjective nature of her psych evaluations, |
488 | 00:23:56,842 | 00:24:00,511 | I am inclined to err on the side of caution here. | I am inclined to err on the side of caution here. |
489 | 00:24:00,579 | 00:24:02,847 | - Caution, there's never been a case in new york | - Caution, there's never been a case in new york |
490 | 00:24:02,914 | 00:24:06,217 | Of a defendant being found unfit based solely on amnesia. | Of a defendant being found unfit based solely on amnesia. |
491 | 00:24:06,268 | 00:24:07,268 | - Forget the girl. | - Forget the girl. |
492 | 00:24:07,353 | 00:24:09,053 | Start thinking about justin sachs. | Start thinking about justin sachs. |
493 | 00:24:09,104 | 00:24:10,421 | - That's no slam dunk. | - That's no slam dunk. |
494 | 00:24:10,472 | 00:24:12,273 | The hatchet was cleaned with bleach. | The hatchet was cleaned with bleach. |
495 | 00:24:12,358 | 00:24:13,641 | We can't tie him to the murder scenes. | We can't tie him to the murder scenes. |
496 | 00:24:13,726 | 00:24:15,693 | - Well, we have his drawings of the murders. | - Well, we have his drawings of the murders. |
497 | 00:24:15,761 | 00:24:17,395 | - You're kidding, right? | - You're kidding, right? |
498 | 00:24:17,446 | 00:24:19,030 | They'll have every artist from richard prince | They'll have every artist from richard prince |
499 | 00:24:19,097 | 00:24:21,899 | To jeff koons lining up in his defense. | To jeff koons lining up in his defense. |
500 | 00:24:21,950 | 00:24:25,536 | You have one eyewitness to his crimes... | You have one eyewitness to his crimes... |
501 | 00:24:25,604 | 00:24:26,788 | His co-defendant. | His co-defendant. |
502 | 00:24:26,872 | 00:24:28,239 | - Now you're kidding. | - Now you're kidding. |
503 | 00:24:28,290 | 00:24:30,041 | This girl was about to cut an eight-year-old's throat. | This girl was about to cut an eight-year-old's throat. |
504 | 00:24:30,108 | 00:24:31,325 | I'm not making her a deal. | I'm not making her a deal. |
505 | 00:24:31,410 | 00:24:33,578 | - If the judge finds her unfit for trial, | - If the judge finds her unfit for trial, |
506 | 00:24:33,629 | 00:24:35,830 | Who knows when you'll get your bite at her? | Who knows when you'll get your bite at her? |
507 | 00:24:35,914 | 00:24:38,016 | - But if we let her take an insanity plea | - But if we let her take an insanity plea |
508 | 00:24:38,083 | 00:24:39,467 | In exchange for testimony, | In exchange for testimony, |
509 | 00:24:39,551 | 00:24:41,952 | She'll be locked up in a psychiatric facility. | She'll be locked up in a psychiatric facility. |
510 | 00:24:42,004 | 00:24:44,055 | - There you go. - Let me see if I get this. | - There you go. - Let me see if I get this. |
511 | 00:24:44,122 | 00:24:48,559 | First, we agree to have her adjudicated legally insane, | First, we agree to have her adjudicated legally insane, |
512 | 00:24:48,627 | 00:24:51,846 | And then we make her our star witness. | And then we make her our star witness. |
513 | 00:24:51,930 | 00:24:54,816 | - I'm not worried. | - I'm not worried. |
514 | 00:24:54,900 | 00:24:58,102 | You've done more with less. | You've done more with less. |
515 | 00:25:02,630 | 00:25:04,130 | - Miss evans has agreed to plead not responsible | - Miss evans has agreed to plead not responsible |
516 | 00:25:04,215 | 00:25:05,599 | By reason of mental defect. | By reason of mental defect. |
517 | 00:25:05,683 | 00:25:08,268 | In return, she'll be confined to a psychiatric facility | In return, she'll be confined to a psychiatric facility |
518 | 00:25:08,352 | 00:25:10,387 | Until it's determined that she's no longer a threat. | Until it's determined that she's no longer a threat. |
519 | 00:25:10,438 | 00:25:12,889 | She has also agreed to testify against justin sachs. | She has also agreed to testify against justin sachs. |
520 | 00:25:12,957 | 00:25:15,442 | - Your honor, in the event the court accepts this plea, | - Your honor, in the event the court accepts this plea, |
521 | 00:25:15,526 | 00:25:17,894 | We're moving to preclude miss evans' testimony. | We're moving to preclude miss evans' testimony. |
522 | 00:25:17,962 | 00:25:20,263 | The people can't, on one hand, assert she's legally insane, | The people can't, on one hand, assert she's legally insane, |
523 | 00:25:20,314 | 00:25:22,766 | While on the other present her as a credible witness. | While on the other present her as a credible witness. |
524 | 00:25:22,833 | 00:25:24,701 | - The defense can cross-examine her. | - The defense can cross-examine her. |
525 | 00:25:24,768 | 00:25:26,570 | The jury can make its own determination | The jury can make its own determination |
526 | 00:25:26,637 | 00:25:28,205 | As to her credibility. | As to her credibility. |
527 | 00:25:28,272 | 00:25:29,623 | - I agree. | - I agree. |
528 | 00:25:29,707 | 00:25:31,658 | Your motion's denied, ms. Masters. | Your motion's denied, ms. Masters. |
529 | 00:25:38,466 | 00:25:40,917 | - Excuse me. | - Excuse me. |
530 | 00:25:40,968 | 00:25:42,752 | Your honor, we're serving a notice | Your honor, we're serving a notice |
531 | 00:25:42,803 | 00:25:45,755 | That we'll present a defense of extreme emotional disturbance, | That we'll present a defense of extreme emotional disturbance, |
532 | 00:25:45,806 | 00:25:48,258 | That mr. Sachs committed these alleged crimes | That mr. Sachs committed these alleged crimes |
533 | 00:25:48,309 | 00:25:51,228 | While suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder. | While suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder. |
534 | 00:25:51,295 | 00:25:52,596 | - So noted. | - So noted. |
535 | 00:25:52,647 | 00:25:54,097 | We're adjourned. | We're adjourned. |
536 | 00:25:54,148 | 00:25:56,182 | [Gavel bangs] | [Gavel bangs] |
537 | 00:25:56,267 | 00:25:58,401 | - Trauma? | - Trauma? |
538 | 00:25:58,469 | 00:26:00,937 | We didn't find any trauma in his history. | We didn't find any trauma in his history. |
539 | 00:26:00,988 | 00:26:02,405 | The guy lives with his mother. | The guy lives with his mother. |
540 | 00:26:02,473 | 00:26:05,108 | - Maybe his mother threw away his comic-book collection. | - Maybe his mother threw away his comic-book collection. |
541 | 00:26:05,159 | 00:26:06,409 | - Well, please keep digging. | - Well, please keep digging. |
542 | 00:26:06,477 | 00:26:08,161 | I don't want to find out in the middle of the trial | I don't want to find out in the middle of the trial |
543 | 00:26:08,246 | 00:26:11,081 | That he spent his childhood chained to a radiator. | That he spent his childhood chained to a radiator. |
544 | 00:26:11,148 | 00:26:12,198 | - What are these? | - What are these? |
545 | 00:26:12,283 | 00:26:14,317 | - We found those on his computer. | - We found those on his computer. |
546 | 00:26:14,368 | 00:26:16,286 | He downloaded them off different websites. | He downloaded them off different websites. |
547 | 00:26:16,337 | 00:26:18,655 | - Pink hippos jumping out of the twin towers? | - Pink hippos jumping out of the twin towers? |
548 | 00:26:18,706 | 00:26:20,657 | - Mm-hmm. Big funny. | - Mm-hmm. Big funny. |
549 | 00:26:20,708 | 00:26:23,493 | Look, this is one kid who needs locking up. | Look, this is one kid who needs locking up. |
550 | 00:26:23,544 | 00:26:25,712 | - If we come across the trauma he's stressing over, | - If we come across the trauma he's stressing over, |
551 | 00:26:25,796 | 00:26:27,830 | We'll get back to you. | We'll get back to you. |
552 | 00:26:27,882 | 00:26:30,133 | - Yeah, boys will be boys. | - Yeah, boys will be boys. |
553 | 00:26:36,240 | 00:26:39,893 | - Justin met zoe on this horrorcore message board, | - Justin met zoe on this horrorcore message board, |
554 | 00:26:39,977 | 00:26:42,245 | And the three of us started hanging out | And the three of us started hanging out |
555 | 00:26:42,313 | 00:26:44,347 | And going to concerts together. | And going to concerts together. |
556 | 00:26:44,415 | 00:26:45,682 | - What happened the Tuesday night | - What happened the Tuesday night |
557 | 00:26:45,733 | 00:26:48,418 | That zoe and her family were killed? | That zoe and her family were killed? |
558 | 00:26:48,486 | 00:26:51,621 | - Zoe invited me over to her house for a sleepover, | - Zoe invited me over to her house for a sleepover, |
559 | 00:26:51,689 | 00:26:54,090 | And after dinner, | And after dinner, |
560 | 00:26:54,158 | 00:26:56,076 | We were hanging out in her room partying, | We were hanging out in her room partying, |
561 | 00:26:56,160 | 00:26:58,094 | Waiting for justin, 'cause we were gonna sneak him in | Waiting for justin, 'cause we were gonna sneak him in |
562 | 00:26:58,162 | 00:27:01,047 | After her parents went to sleep. | After her parents went to sleep. |
563 | 00:27:01,132 | 00:27:05,201 | And then I saw that she was texting with somebody. | And then I saw that she was texting with somebody. |
564 | 00:27:05,252 | 00:27:06,419 | - Who was she texting? | - Who was she texting? |
565 | 00:27:06,504 | 00:27:10,440 | - This guy, tom, a bartender. | - This guy, tom, a bartender. |
566 | 00:27:10,508 | 00:27:12,676 | She made me swear not to tell justin. | She made me swear not to tell justin. |
567 | 00:27:12,743 | 00:27:14,778 | - Did you tell him? | - Did you tell him? |
568 | 00:27:18,182 | 00:27:20,600 | - Yes, when he came over. | - Yes, when he came over. |
569 | 00:27:20,685 | 00:27:21,985 | Justin was looking out for me, | Justin was looking out for me, |
570 | 00:27:22,052 | 00:27:26,723 | So I felt like I should look out for him. | So I felt like I should look out for him. |
571 | 00:27:26,774 | 00:27:29,109 | He got really mad. | He got really mad. |
572 | 00:27:29,193 | 00:27:30,727 | - What did he do? | - What did he do? |
573 | 00:27:30,795 | 00:27:34,230 | - He told me to keep pretending like everything was cool, | - He told me to keep pretending like everything was cool, |
574 | 00:27:34,281 | 00:27:37,400 | And he went into the kitchen. | And he went into the kitchen. |
575 | 00:27:37,451 | 00:27:40,570 | And then he came back, and he asked zoe... | And then he came back, and he asked zoe... |
576 | 00:27:40,638 | 00:27:44,240 | About tom, and... | About tom, and... |
577 | 00:27:44,291 | 00:27:47,744 | She lied. | She lied. |
578 | 00:27:47,812 | 00:27:49,429 | And then he just took out this knife, | And then he just took out this knife, |
579 | 00:27:49,513 | 00:27:52,148 | And he started stabbing her, and he killed her. | And he started stabbing her, and he killed her. |
580 | 00:27:52,216 | 00:27:54,417 | - What happened next? | - What happened next? |
581 | 00:27:54,468 | 00:27:57,087 | - He said, "now we have to kill them all." | - He said, "now we have to kill them all." |
582 | 00:27:57,154 | 00:27:58,755 | And he went and he got this hatchet | And he went and he got this hatchet |
583 | 00:27:58,806 | 00:28:00,523 | That he would keep in his backpack, | That he would keep in his backpack, |
584 | 00:28:00,591 | 00:28:03,276 | And zoe's dad was walking out of the bathroom, | And zoe's dad was walking out of the bathroom, |
585 | 00:28:03,361 | 00:28:06,429 | And he just went crazy on him. | And he just went crazy on him. |
586 | 00:28:06,497 | 00:28:08,264 | And then he went into the bedroom, | And then he went into the bedroom, |
587 | 00:28:08,315 | 00:28:10,933 | And I could hear him killing zoe's mom, | And I could hear him killing zoe's mom, |
588 | 00:28:10,985 | 00:28:14,771 | And then he... he went into zoe's little brother's room, | And then he... he went into zoe's little brother's room, |
589 | 00:28:14,822 | 00:28:18,274 | And he just... he said that he couldn't find him, but... | And he just... he said that he couldn't find him, but... |
590 | 00:28:18,325 | 00:28:20,276 | - Go on, amanda. | - Go on, amanda. |
591 | 00:28:22,630 | 00:28:23,997 | - [Stammering] | - [Stammering] |
592 | 00:28:24,081 | 00:28:25,882 | I could... | I could... |
593 | 00:28:25,950 | 00:28:27,884 | I could hear zoe's little brother | I could hear zoe's little brother |
594 | 00:28:27,951 | 00:28:30,120 | Crying really soft. | Crying really soft. |
595 | 00:28:32,223 | 00:28:36,793 | So I told justin that he was hiding in the closet. | So I told justin that he was hiding in the closet. |
596 | 00:28:39,063 | 00:28:41,631 | Justin killed him. | Justin killed him. |
597 | 00:28:44,635 | 00:28:46,820 | And then he went into the hallway, | And then he went into the hallway, |
598 | 00:28:46,904 | 00:28:49,639 | And he stuck his knife in zoe's dad's neck, | And he stuck his knife in zoe's dad's neck, |
599 | 00:28:49,690 | 00:28:52,975 | And we left. | And we left. |
600 | 00:29:05,489 | 00:29:08,174 | - Just to be clear, miss evans, | - Just to be clear, miss evans, |
601 | 00:29:08,259 | 00:29:12,595 | You're saying that you didn't do any of the killing yourself? | You're saying that you didn't do any of the killing yourself? |
602 | 00:29:12,663 | 00:29:13,847 | Is that right? | Is that right? |
603 | 00:29:13,931 | 00:29:17,333 | - Yes, justin did it. | - Yes, justin did it. |
604 | 00:29:17,384 | 00:29:20,336 | - Tell the jury where you live now. | - Tell the jury where you live now. |
605 | 00:29:23,841 | 00:29:25,975 | - A psychiatric hospital. | - A psychiatric hospital. |
606 | 00:29:26,026 | 00:29:29,479 | - Because you've been found to be legally insane, | - Because you've been found to be legally insane, |
607 | 00:29:29,530 | 00:29:31,815 | Subject to disorientation | Subject to disorientation |
608 | 00:29:31,882 | 00:29:35,518 | And memory lapses, right? | And memory lapses, right? |
609 | 00:29:35,586 | 00:29:37,537 | - Yes. | - Yes. |
610 | 00:29:37,621 | 00:29:40,890 | - No more questions. | - No more questions. |
611 | 00:29:48,916 | 00:29:50,032 | - The photo on the left | - The photo on the left |
612 | 00:29:50,084 | 00:29:51,718 | Was found on the defendant's laptop. | Was found on the defendant's laptop. |
613 | 00:29:51,802 | 00:29:53,970 | It was uploaded there from a camera found in his room. | It was uploaded there from a camera found in his room. |
614 | 00:29:54,038 | 00:29:55,138 | If you compare this photo | If you compare this photo |
615 | 00:29:55,205 | 00:29:56,890 | To the one taken by our crime scene unit, | To the one taken by our crime scene unit, |
616 | 00:29:56,974 | 00:29:58,975 | You can see there are fewer footprints. | You can see there are fewer footprints. |
617 | 00:29:59,042 | 00:30:02,345 | This indicates his photo was taken at the murder scene. | This indicates his photo was taken at the murder scene. |
618 | 00:30:02,396 | 00:30:04,481 | - Thank you. | - Thank you. |
619 | 00:30:09,603 | 00:30:11,821 | - Your honor, the defense reserves | - Your honor, the defense reserves |
620 | 00:30:11,889 | 00:30:13,656 | Our cross-examination of this witness | Our cross-examination of this witness |
621 | 00:30:13,724 | 00:30:15,992 | Until after we've presented our case. | Until after we've presented our case. |
622 | 00:30:16,059 | 00:30:17,243 | - Granted. | - Granted. |
623 | 00:30:17,328 | 00:30:20,580 | The witness will remain available for recall. | The witness will remain available for recall. |
624 | 00:30:25,669 | 00:30:27,203 | - Excuse me? | - Excuse me? |
625 | 00:30:27,254 | 00:30:28,421 | - Yes, detective? | - Yes, detective? |
626 | 00:30:28,506 | 00:30:30,089 | - I know you, right? | - I know you, right? |
627 | 00:30:30,174 | 00:30:31,758 | - Yes, you do. | - Yes, you do. |
628 | 00:30:31,842 | 00:30:34,761 | I went by my maiden name back then. | I went by my maiden name back then. |
629 | 00:30:34,845 | 00:30:36,462 | Veronica palmer? | Veronica palmer? |
630 | 00:30:39,350 | 00:30:42,051 | Now you remember. | Now you remember. |
631 | 00:30:42,102 | 00:30:44,420 | See you soon, detective. | See you soon, detective. |
632 | 00:30:50,361 | 00:30:52,111 | - We could see the twin towers burn | - We could see the twin towers burn |
633 | 00:30:52,196 | 00:30:53,963 | From our balcony in brooklyn. | From our balcony in brooklyn. |
634 | 00:30:54,031 | 00:30:56,282 | Justin kept running from the balcony to the tv. | Justin kept running from the balcony to the tv. |
635 | 00:30:56,367 | 00:30:57,450 | They... they kept showing | They... they kept showing |
636 | 00:30:57,535 | 00:30:59,302 | The planes going into the towers, | The planes going into the towers, |
637 | 00:30:59,370 | 00:31:02,622 | The... the people jumping, over and over again. | The... the people jumping, over and over again. |
638 | 00:31:02,706 | 00:31:06,309 | I'd turn it off, and he'd turn it back on. | I'd turn it off, and he'd turn it back on. |
639 | 00:31:06,377 | 00:31:08,628 | He was just 11. | He was just 11. |
640 | 00:31:08,712 | 00:31:11,314 | - And how did he react to those images? | - And how did he react to those images? |
641 | 00:31:11,382 | 00:31:14,484 | - For weeks, he'd wake up in the middle of the night. | - For weeks, he'd wake up in the middle of the night. |
642 | 00:31:14,552 | 00:31:17,971 | A few times, he even wet his bed. | A few times, he even wet his bed. |
643 | 00:31:18,055 | 00:31:19,639 | - And what can you tell us | - And what can you tell us |
644 | 00:31:19,723 | 00:31:23,426 | About justin's interest in music? | About justin's interest in music? |
645 | 00:31:23,477 | 00:31:24,978 | - When he was 12, I had this boyfriend who took him | - When he was 12, I had this boyfriend who took him |
646 | 00:31:25,062 | 00:31:26,429 | To a death metal concert. | To a death metal concert. |
647 | 00:31:26,497 | 00:31:29,766 | Um, and this singer onstage | Um, and this singer onstage |
648 | 00:31:29,833 | 00:31:31,701 | Bit off this bird's head. | Bit off this bird's head. |
649 | 00:31:31,769 | 00:31:33,519 | Justin came home crying. | Justin came home crying. |
650 | 00:31:33,604 | 00:31:36,739 | My boyfriend was laughing and calling him a-a sissy. | My boyfriend was laughing and calling him a-a sissy. |
651 | 00:31:36,807 | 00:31:39,609 | - And what happened to justin's musical tastes? | - And what happened to justin's musical tastes? |
652 | 00:31:39,677 | 00:31:41,811 | - He started getting into metal | - He started getting into metal |
653 | 00:31:41,862 | 00:31:43,446 | And then horrorcore. | And then horrorcore. |
654 | 00:31:43,514 | 00:31:45,582 | He blasted it in the house. | He blasted it in the house. |
655 | 00:31:45,649 | 00:31:48,251 | - Thank you. | - Thank you. |
656 | 00:31:52,673 | 00:31:55,124 | - Mrs. Sachs, did you ever take justin | - Mrs. Sachs, did you ever take justin |
657 | 00:31:55,175 | 00:31:58,628 | For a psychiatric evaluation? | For a psychiatric evaluation? |
658 | 00:31:58,679 | 00:32:00,163 | - No. | - No. |
659 | 00:32:00,230 | 00:32:02,465 | - Did his school ever call you with complaints | - Did his school ever call you with complaints |
660 | 00:32:02,533 | 00:32:03,733 | About his behavior? | About his behavior? |
661 | 00:32:03,801 | 00:32:06,052 | - No, he was a-a good student. | - No, he was a-a good student. |
662 | 00:32:06,136 | 00:32:07,637 | - So a good student | - So a good student |
663 | 00:32:07,688 | 00:32:11,524 | Whose behavior never aroused anyone's concerns? | Whose behavior never aroused anyone's concerns? |
664 | 00:32:14,278 | 00:32:16,312 | Thank you. | Thank you. |
665 | 00:32:18,515 | 00:32:21,618 | - The children who lived through the events of 9/11, | - The children who lived through the events of 9/11, |
666 | 00:32:21,685 | 00:32:25,054 | Who came of age during two wars they could watch | Who came of age during two wars they could watch |
667 | 00:32:25,122 | 00:32:26,990 | Every night in vivid high-def, | Every night in vivid high-def, |
668 | 00:32:27,041 | 00:32:29,909 | Have been exposed to an unprecedented barrage | Have been exposed to an unprecedented barrage |
669 | 00:32:29,994 | 00:32:31,327 | Of horrific imagery. | Of horrific imagery. |
670 | 00:32:31,395 | 00:32:32,912 | The impact of this experience | The impact of this experience |
671 | 00:32:32,997 | 00:32:35,131 | Is only now starting to be understood. | Is only now starting to be understood. |
672 | 00:32:35,198 | 00:32:37,717 | - From your examination of justin, | - From your examination of justin, |
673 | 00:32:37,801 | 00:32:40,420 | What impact has this barrage had on him? | What impact has this barrage had on him? |
674 | 00:32:40,504 | 00:32:41,471 | - He exhibits signs | - He exhibits signs |
675 | 00:32:41,538 | 00:32:43,756 | Of being desensitized to violence | Of being desensitized to violence |
676 | 00:32:43,841 | 00:32:45,475 | And, at the same time, | And, at the same time, |
677 | 00:32:45,542 | 00:32:48,261 | Being addicted to the thrill that he derives from it. | Being addicted to the thrill that he derives from it. |
678 | 00:32:48,345 | 00:32:50,096 | - Can you give us an example | - Can you give us an example |
679 | 00:32:50,180 | 00:32:52,849 | Of how justin has become desensitized to violence? | Of how justin has become desensitized to violence? |
680 | 00:32:52,900 | 00:32:54,233 | - Well, for example, | - Well, for example, |
681 | 00:32:54,318 | 00:32:57,353 | These images of the twin towers that justin has collected, | These images of the twin towers that justin has collected, |
682 | 00:32:57,421 | 00:33:00,456 | While for us the twin towers represent a great tragedy, | While for us the twin towers represent a great tragedy, |
683 | 00:33:00,524 | 00:33:04,360 | For justin, they're an icon being used as a punch line. | For justin, they're an icon being used as a punch line. |
684 | 00:33:04,428 | 00:33:08,297 | This callous humor is typically seen in soldiers | This callous humor is typically seen in soldiers |
685 | 00:33:08,365 | 00:33:10,366 | Suffering from ptsd. | Suffering from ptsd. |
686 | 00:33:10,417 | 00:33:12,168 | - Thank you. | - Thank you. |
687 | 00:33:14,872 | 00:33:18,474 | - So you're equating the stress of seeing a gory picture | - So you're equating the stress of seeing a gory picture |
688 | 00:33:18,542 | 00:33:20,910 | To the stress of being in combat? | To the stress of being in combat? |
689 | 00:33:20,961 | 00:33:23,346 | - For a child of 11 or 12, | - For a child of 11 or 12, |
690 | 00:33:23,414 | 00:33:28,250 | The image of violence can be as upsetting as the real thing. | The image of violence can be as upsetting as the real thing. |
691 | 00:33:28,302 | 00:33:32,021 | - Now, we heard testimony that justin flew into a rage | - Now, we heard testimony that justin flew into a rage |
692 | 00:33:32,089 | 00:33:35,424 | When he found out his girlfriend was texting another boy. | When he found out his girlfriend was texting another boy. |
693 | 00:33:35,476 | 00:33:38,594 | Is jealousy a symptom of ptsd? | Is jealousy a symptom of ptsd? |
694 | 00:33:38,645 | 00:33:40,730 | - I'd have to say that it is not. | - I'd have to say that it is not. |
695 | 00:33:40,781 | 00:33:45,535 | - And, doctor, jealousy is not a defense to murder, correct? | - And, doctor, jealousy is not a defense to murder, correct? |
696 | 00:33:45,602 | 00:33:47,937 | - Correct. | - Correct. |
697 | 00:33:47,988 | 00:33:49,655 | It is not. | It is not. |
698 | 00:33:49,740 | 00:33:51,107 | - Thank you. | - Thank you. |
699 | 00:33:53,627 | 00:33:55,545 | - Nowadays with what the kids see, | - Nowadays with what the kids see, |
700 | 00:33:55,612 | 00:33:57,780 | I shudder to think what effect it has. | I shudder to think what effect it has. |
701 | 00:33:57,831 | 00:33:59,615 | - Growing up in rose-colored innocence | - Growing up in rose-colored innocence |
702 | 00:33:59,666 | 00:34:01,951 | Didn't keep us from creating the violent world | Didn't keep us from creating the violent world |
703 | 00:34:02,002 | 00:34:03,285 | Our kids are watching, did it? | Our kids are watching, did it? |
704 | 00:34:03,337 | 00:34:05,388 | - Mr. Cutter, may I speak to you, please? | - Mr. Cutter, may I speak to you, please? |
705 | 00:34:05,455 | 00:34:07,623 | - Sure. | - Sure. |
706 | 00:34:07,674 | 00:34:10,059 | [Clears throat] | [Clears throat] |
707 | 00:34:10,127 | 00:34:11,627 | - You got to keep that lawyer | - You got to keep that lawyer |
708 | 00:34:11,678 | 00:34:13,629 | From calling me back to the stand. | From calling me back to the stand. |
709 | 00:34:13,680 | 00:34:16,816 | - I can't. She has the right to cross-examine you. | - I can't. She has the right to cross-examine you. |
710 | 00:34:16,900 | 00:34:18,401 | - Come on, you're a sharp guy. | - Come on, you're a sharp guy. |
711 | 00:34:18,468 | 00:34:20,069 | There's got to be something you can do. | There's got to be something you can do. |
712 | 00:34:20,137 | 00:34:22,855 | - Detective, what's the problem here? | - Detective, what's the problem here? |
713 | 00:34:22,940 | 00:34:25,541 | - Just help me out here, mike, please. | - Just help me out here, mike, please. |
714 | 00:34:25,609 | 00:34:30,313 | - Th-there's nothing I can do. | - Th-there's nothing I can do. |
715 | 00:34:32,816 | 00:34:34,650 | - [Sighs] okay, then you got to cover me. | - [Sighs] okay, then you got to cover me. |
716 | 00:34:34,701 | 00:34:36,002 | I'll talk about the case, | I'll talk about the case, |
717 | 00:34:36,086 | 00:34:39,422 | But if that lawyer veers off the subject by one comma, | But if that lawyer veers off the subject by one comma, |
718 | 00:34:39,489 | 00:34:43,376 | You got to jump in and stop it. | You got to jump in and stop it. |
719 | 00:34:57,274 | 00:34:58,441 | See you tomorrow. | See you tomorrow. |
720 | 00:34:58,509 | 00:35:01,277 | - This is no way to treat your partner... | - This is no way to treat your partner... |
721 | 00:35:01,345 | 00:35:02,612 | Partner. | Partner. |
722 | 00:35:04,681 | 00:35:06,449 | Look, do you want me to beat it out of you? | Look, do you want me to beat it out of you? |
723 | 00:35:06,517 | 00:35:08,117 | Because you know that I can. | Because you know that I can. |
724 | 00:35:10,187 | 00:35:12,705 | - That lawyer knows me from an old case. | - That lawyer knows me from an old case. |
725 | 00:35:12,790 | 00:35:14,123 | - And? | - And? |
726 | 00:35:18,529 | 00:35:20,379 | - It was ten years ago, it was christmas morning, | - It was ten years ago, it was christmas morning, |
727 | 00:35:20,464 | 00:35:21,714 | I got called out to a crime scene. | I got called out to a crime scene. |
728 | 00:35:21,799 | 00:35:22,999 | It was a triple. | It was a triple. |
729 | 00:35:23,050 | 00:35:25,067 | Guy took out his whole family... the wife, the two kids. | Guy took out his whole family... the wife, the two kids. |
730 | 00:35:25,135 | 00:35:26,552 | Cut their throats in their sleep | Cut their throats in their sleep |
731 | 00:35:26,637 | 00:35:28,171 | While they were waiting for santa. | While they were waiting for santa. |
732 | 00:35:28,222 | 00:35:31,390 | I was there for six hours standing in the blood. | I was there for six hours standing in the blood. |
733 | 00:35:31,475 | 00:35:34,393 | And then I had to rush over to meet my girlfriend | And then I had to rush over to meet my girlfriend |
734 | 00:35:34,478 | 00:35:36,395 | At her folks' place for christmas dinner. | At her folks' place for christmas dinner. |
735 | 00:35:36,480 | 00:35:37,730 | It was the first time I was meeting them. | It was the first time I was meeting them. |
736 | 00:35:37,815 | 00:35:39,232 | You know, the parents, the grandparents, | You know, the parents, the grandparents, |
737 | 00:35:39,316 | 00:35:41,150 | The aunts and uncles... the whole kit. | The aunts and uncles... the whole kit. |
738 | 00:35:41,218 | 00:35:42,652 | And I'm there. | And I'm there. |
739 | 00:35:42,719 | 00:35:45,888 | I'm playing with the nephews, rolling around on the floor, | I'm playing with the nephews, rolling around on the floor, |
740 | 00:35:45,939 | 00:35:47,023 | And I'm doing pretty good | And I'm doing pretty good |
741 | 00:35:47,074 | 00:35:48,891 | Forgetting how I spent my morning. | Forgetting how I spent my morning. |
742 | 00:35:48,942 | 00:35:50,910 | And then... | And then... |
743 | 00:35:50,994 | 00:35:55,248 | I see that I got blood on... on the cuff of my shirt, | I see that I got blood on... on the cuff of my shirt, |
744 | 00:35:55,332 | 00:35:58,751 | You know, blood from the crime scene... | You know, blood from the crime scene... |
745 | 00:35:58,836 | 00:36:01,370 | Blood from those dead kids, | Blood from those dead kids, |
746 | 00:36:01,438 | 00:36:04,273 | And I freaked out. | And I freaked out. |
747 | 00:36:06,009 | 00:36:08,477 | I ran out of there. | I ran out of there. |
748 | 00:36:08,545 | 00:36:12,114 | I ended up at a bar. | I ended up at a bar. |
749 | 00:36:12,182 | 00:36:14,784 | On christmas night, I'm in a bar drinking... | On christmas night, I'm in a bar drinking... |
750 | 00:36:14,852 | 00:36:16,269 | Hey, hey. | Hey, hey. |
751 | 00:36:16,353 | 00:36:19,522 | So that was it for the girlfriend. | So that was it for the girlfriend. |
752 | 00:36:19,590 | 00:36:24,060 | And that christmas morning... | And that christmas morning... |
753 | 00:36:24,127 | 00:36:28,731 | Well, you work hard at it... And you drink enough, | Well, you work hard at it... And you drink enough, |
754 | 00:36:28,799 | 00:36:32,735 | You can pretty much forget anything eventually. | You can pretty much forget anything eventually. |
755 | 00:36:32,786 | 00:36:36,072 | That lawyer represented the husband. | That lawyer represented the husband. |
756 | 00:36:36,123 | 00:36:39,242 | When I got called to testify... | When I got called to testify... |
757 | 00:36:39,293 | 00:36:40,676 | I showed up drunk. | I showed up drunk. |
758 | 00:36:44,164 | 00:36:47,250 | She knows what I went through. | She knows what I went through. |
759 | 00:36:47,301 | 00:36:49,585 | She's gonna bring it up. | She's gonna bring it up. |
760 | 00:36:49,636 | 00:36:52,421 | I do not want to go back there. | I do not want to go back there. |
761 | 00:36:52,489 | 00:36:54,924 | - I hear that. | - I hear that. |
762 | 00:36:54,992 | 00:36:57,093 | What are you gonna do? | What are you gonna do? |
763 | 00:37:00,163 | 00:37:03,766 | I'll be there tomorrow. | I'll be there tomorrow. |
764 | 00:37:03,834 | 00:37:07,670 | And if you have to tell your story, lupes, | And if you have to tell your story, lupes, |
765 | 00:37:07,738 | 00:37:09,822 | Tell it to me. | Tell it to me. |
766 | 00:37:17,347 | 00:37:20,783 | [Seat belt unlatches, car door opens] | [Seat belt unlatches, car door opens] |
767 | 00:37:23,620 | 00:37:25,955 | [Car door closes] | [Car door closes] |
768 | 00:37:30,861 | 00:37:33,379 | - I wouldn't say 17 stab wounds is indicative | - I wouldn't say 17 stab wounds is indicative |
769 | 00:37:33,463 | 00:37:34,880 | Of a deranged mental state. | Of a deranged mental state. |
770 | 00:37:34,965 | 00:37:37,383 | I think it's indicative that he wanted to make sure | I think it's indicative that he wanted to make sure |
771 | 00:37:37,467 | 00:37:39,602 | Zoe morgan was dead. | Zoe morgan was dead. |
772 | 00:37:39,669 | 00:37:42,855 | - The morgan crime scene was particularly gruesome, | - The morgan crime scene was particularly gruesome, |
773 | 00:37:42,940 | 00:37:44,106 | Wouldn't you say? | Wouldn't you say? |
774 | 00:37:44,174 | 00:37:47,109 | - Every crime scene has its own horror. | - Every crime scene has its own horror. |
775 | 00:37:47,177 | 00:37:48,277 | - Have you had nightmares | - Have you had nightmares |
776 | 00:37:48,345 | 00:37:50,479 | Or unwanted thoughts about that crime scene? | Or unwanted thoughts about that crime scene? |
777 | 00:37:50,547 | 00:37:52,081 | - No. | - No. |
778 | 00:37:52,149 | 00:37:54,150 | - But you have had problems in the past | - But you have had problems in the past |
779 | 00:37:54,217 | 00:37:56,085 | From your exposure to gruesome crime scenes, | From your exposure to gruesome crime scenes, |
780 | 00:37:56,153 | 00:37:57,536 | Isn't that right? | Isn't that right? |
781 | 00:37:57,621 | 00:37:59,221 | - Objection, relevance. | - Objection, relevance. |
782 | 00:37:59,289 | 00:38:01,057 | - Ms. Masters, where are you going with this? | - Ms. Masters, where are you going with this? |
783 | 00:38:01,124 | 00:38:03,075 | - It's okay. | - It's okay. |
784 | 00:38:03,160 | 00:38:05,411 | I'll answer her question. | I'll answer her question. |
785 | 00:38:05,495 | 00:38:09,632 | - Then I'll withdraw my objection. | - Then I'll withdraw my objection. |
786 | 00:38:09,699 | 00:38:12,418 | - Yes, I had problems. | - Yes, I had problems. |
787 | 00:38:12,502 | 00:38:15,704 | Ten years ago, I caught a case. | Ten years ago, I caught a case. |
788 | 00:38:15,756 | 00:38:18,090 | A man killed his wife and two kids | A man killed his wife and two kids |
789 | 00:38:18,175 | 00:38:19,775 | On christmas morning. | On christmas morning. |
790 | 00:38:19,843 | 00:38:21,711 | You know. | You know. |
791 | 00:38:21,778 | 00:38:23,763 | You were his lawyer. | You were his lawyer. |
792 | 00:38:25,449 | 00:38:26,382 | - Yes. | - Yes. |
793 | 00:38:26,433 | 00:38:27,549 | Can you please tell us | Can you please tell us |
794 | 00:38:27,601 | 00:38:30,920 | How your problems manifested themselves? | How your problems manifested themselves? |
795 | 00:38:39,112 | 00:38:41,730 | - [Sighs] | - [Sighs] |
796 | 00:38:41,782 | 00:38:45,201 | I couldn't stop thinking about what I saw... | I couldn't stop thinking about what I saw... |
797 | 00:38:45,268 | 00:38:47,570 | The smells... | The smells... |
798 | 00:38:47,637 | 00:38:51,173 | Those little kids. | Those little kids. |
799 | 00:38:51,241 | 00:38:54,744 | I couldn't shut it off. | I couldn't shut it off. |
800 | 00:38:54,811 | 00:38:58,247 | I felt guilty... | I felt guilty... |
801 | 00:38:58,315 | 00:39:01,484 | And sad all the time. | And sad all the time. |
802 | 00:39:03,153 | 00:39:04,253 | And I couldn't sit still. | And I couldn't sit still. |
803 | 00:39:04,304 | 00:39:07,089 | I felt out of control. I was anxious. | I felt out of control. I was anxious. |
804 | 00:39:07,140 | 00:39:09,475 | I wasn't sleeping. | I wasn't sleeping. |
805 | 00:39:11,661 | 00:39:13,262 | I drank... | I drank... |
806 | 00:39:13,313 | 00:39:15,931 | Even on the job. | Even on the job. |
807 | 00:39:15,982 | 00:39:19,201 | One time... | One time... |
808 | 00:39:19,269 | 00:39:21,103 | I fell asleep in the patrol car | I fell asleep in the patrol car |
809 | 00:39:21,171 | 00:39:22,772 | When my partner went to get us coffee. | When my partner went to get us coffee. |
810 | 00:39:22,839 | 00:39:26,609 | He walked into a robbery in progress. | He walked into a robbery in progress. |
811 | 00:39:26,676 | 00:39:29,111 | He was shot and killed. | He was shot and killed. |
812 | 00:39:29,179 | 00:39:31,664 | - Did you seek counseling? | - Did you seek counseling? |
813 | 00:39:33,300 | 00:39:35,051 | - Uh, yeah, after that. | - Uh, yeah, after that. |
814 | 00:39:35,118 | 00:39:39,922 | I was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder. | I was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder. |
815 | 00:39:39,973 | 00:39:42,624 | I got treatment with the department psychiatrist | I got treatment with the department psychiatrist |
816 | 00:39:42,676 | 00:39:44,160 | For nine months. | For nine months. |
817 | 00:39:44,227 | 00:39:47,763 | - And how long were you in that crime scene? | - And how long were you in that crime scene? |
818 | 00:39:47,831 | 00:39:49,065 | - Six hours. | - Six hours. |
819 | 00:39:49,132 | 00:39:51,634 | - Were any of the victims known to you? | - Were any of the victims known to you? |
820 | 00:39:51,701 | 00:39:53,135 | - No. | - No. |
821 | 00:39:53,203 | 00:39:56,972 | - And still, you suffered from ptsd. | - And still, you suffered from ptsd. |
822 | 00:40:00,877 | 00:40:03,863 | No more questions. | No more questions. |
823 | 00:40:12,873 | 00:40:16,325 | - In the time that you've suffered from ptsd, | - In the time that you've suffered from ptsd, |
824 | 00:40:16,393 | 00:40:19,161 | Have you attacked anyone? | Have you attacked anyone? |
825 | 00:40:19,212 | 00:40:20,662 | - No. | - No. |
826 | 00:40:20,714 | 00:40:24,934 | - Been cited for using excessive force on a suspect? | - Been cited for using excessive force on a suspect? |
827 | 00:40:25,001 | 00:40:27,103 | - No. | - No. |
828 | 00:40:27,170 | 00:40:31,006 | - Used violence in an inappropriate way? | - Used violence in an inappropriate way? |
829 | 00:40:33,343 | 00:40:35,077 | - No. | - No. |
830 | 00:40:39,866 | 00:40:40,983 | - One more thing... | - One more thing... |
831 | 00:40:41,034 | 00:40:42,234 | That ten-year-old case, | That ten-year-old case, |
832 | 00:40:42,319 | 00:40:46,288 | Do you recall what defense ms. Masters offered | Do you recall what defense ms. Masters offered |
833 | 00:40:46,356 | 00:40:49,542 | On behalf of her client? | On behalf of her client? |
834 | 00:40:49,626 | 00:40:52,294 | - She told the jury... | - She told the jury... |
835 | 00:40:52,362 | 00:40:53,963 | Her client was traumatized | Her client was traumatized |
836 | 00:40:54,030 | 00:40:56,465 | By witnessing the death of his parents | By witnessing the death of his parents |
837 | 00:40:56,533 | 00:40:59,001 | In a house fire when he was a child. | In a house fire when he was a child. |
838 | 00:40:59,069 | 00:41:01,036 | - Do you remember what the verdict was? | - Do you remember what the verdict was? |
839 | 00:41:01,087 | 00:41:02,138 | - Objection. | - Objection. |
840 | 00:41:02,205 | 00:41:04,373 | - She opened the door, your honor. | - She opened the door, your honor. |
841 | 00:41:04,441 | 00:41:05,975 | - I'll allow it. | - I'll allow it. |
842 | 00:41:06,042 | 00:41:09,311 | The witness may answer the question. | The witness may answer the question. |
843 | 00:41:09,379 | 00:41:13,215 | - The jury found her client guilty. | - The jury found her client guilty. |
844 | 00:41:17,220 | 00:41:19,405 | - No more questions. | - No more questions. |
845 | 00:41:34,171 | 00:41:36,539 | - How'd you know about her defense? | - How'd you know about her defense? |
846 | 00:41:36,590 | 00:41:37,573 | - After you came to me, | - After you came to me, |
847 | 00:41:37,624 | 00:41:39,758 | I cross-referenced you and ms. Masters. | I cross-referenced you and ms. Masters. |
848 | 00:41:39,843 | 00:41:41,443 | I found the case. | I found the case. |
849 | 00:41:41,511 | 00:41:45,431 | Like you said, I'm a pretty sharp guy. | Like you said, I'm a pretty sharp guy. |
850 | 00:41:45,515 | 00:41:47,049 | - Mr. Cutter... | - Mr. Cutter... |
851 | 00:41:47,100 | 00:41:49,685 | Can we talk? | Can we talk? |
852 | 00:41:51,354 | 00:41:52,605 | - Yes. | - Yes. |
853 | 00:41:52,689 | 00:41:55,224 | What can we do for you? | What can we do for you? |
854 | 00:41:58,061 | 00:41:59,945 | - The kid took 30 to life, all in. | - The kid took 30 to life, all in. |
855 | 00:42:00,030 | 00:42:03,482 | I told cutter we'd be at every parole hearing. | I told cutter we'd be at every parole hearing. |
856 | 00:42:03,567 | 00:42:04,933 | Evening, officers. | Evening, officers. |
857 | 00:42:04,985 | 00:42:07,119 | - Hey, it's ugly in there. | - Hey, it's ugly in there. |
858 | 00:42:07,204 | 00:42:10,573 | I hope you haven't had dinner yet. | I hope you haven't had dinner yet. |
859 | 00:42:11,724 | 00:42:13,057 | - You okay? | - You okay? |