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1 | 00:00:05,044 | 00:00:06,745 | (male announcer) in the criminal justice system, | (male announcer) in the criminal justice system, |
2 | 00:00:06,812 | 00:00:09,080 | The people are represented by two separate | The people are represented by two separate |
3 | 00:00:09,131 | 00:00:10,832 | Yet equally important groups-- | Yet equally important groups-- |
4 | 00:00:10,916 | 00:00:12,717 | The police who investigate crime | The police who investigate crime |
5 | 00:00:12,785 | 00:00:15,503 | And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. | And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. |
6 | 00:00:15,588 | 00:00:17,088 | The are their stories. | The are their stories. |
7 | 00:00:18,691 | 00:00:20,425 | - You would be a totally anonymous source. | - You would be a totally anonymous source. |
8 | 00:00:20,493 | 00:00:21,876 | - I know, I-- | - I know, I-- |
9 | 00:00:21,961 | 00:00:24,329 | I just don't really see the point in talking about it. | I just don't really see the point in talking about it. |
10 | 00:00:24,397 | 00:00:25,880 | - I wouldn't have to use your name. | - I wouldn't have to use your name. |
11 | 00:00:25,965 | 00:00:27,465 | - Yeah, but how hard would it be to figure out? | - Yeah, but how hard would it be to figure out? |
12 | 00:00:27,516 | 00:00:32,037 | Look, I have a new job. | Look, I have a new job. |
13 | 00:00:32,104 | 00:00:34,739 | I'm not widely considered a slut. | I'm not widely considered a slut. |
14 | 00:00:34,807 | 00:00:36,808 | Things are just fine the way they are. | Things are just fine the way they are. |
15 | 00:00:36,876 | 00:00:38,143 | - It's not right. | - It's not right. |
16 | 00:00:38,210 | 00:00:39,644 | You know it. | You know it. |
17 | 00:00:39,712 | 00:00:42,614 | And it keeps happening over and over again. | And it keeps happening over and over again. |
18 | 00:00:47,987 | 00:00:49,404 | - Let me think about it. | - Let me think about it. |
19 | 00:00:49,488 | 00:00:51,823 | I'll let you know. | I'll let you know. |
20 | 00:00:51,874 | 00:00:54,259 | - [scoffs] | - [scoffs] |
21 | 00:00:56,996 | 00:00:58,246 | - Developer ran out of money. | - Developer ran out of money. |
22 | 00:00:58,331 | 00:00:59,714 | One day he's selling the greatest new project | One day he's selling the greatest new project |
23 | 00:00:59,799 | 00:01:00,915 | Since rockefeller center, | Since rockefeller center, |
24 | 00:01:01,000 | 00:01:02,200 | And the next he's selling the fixtures. | And the next he's selling the fixtures. |
25 | 00:01:02,251 | 00:01:04,069 | - When did construction end? | - When did construction end? |
26 | 00:01:04,136 | 00:01:05,720 | - Maybe six months ago. | - Maybe six months ago. |
27 | 00:01:05,805 | 00:01:07,505 | Security's half-assed. | Security's half-assed. |
28 | 00:01:07,556 | 00:01:09,557 | - Junkies, homeless, who called it in? | - Junkies, homeless, who called it in? |
29 | 00:01:09,642 | 00:01:10,759 | - [chuckles] | - [chuckles] |
30 | 00:01:10,843 | 00:01:12,394 | 911 call from a pay phone. | 911 call from a pay phone. |
31 | 00:01:12,478 | 00:01:13,878 | Caller forgot to leave his name. | Caller forgot to leave his name. |
32 | 00:01:13,929 | 00:01:15,847 | - Yeah, he was probably scavenging. | - Yeah, he was probably scavenging. |
33 | 00:01:15,898 | 00:01:18,233 | Pulled back this sheet of metal. | Pulled back this sheet of metal. |
34 | 00:01:18,317 | 00:01:19,550 | - And voila. | - And voila. |
35 | 00:01:19,602 | 00:01:21,519 | - Bruises on her neck. | - Bruises on her neck. |
36 | 00:01:21,570 | 00:01:23,071 | No blood. | No blood. |
37 | 00:01:23,155 | 00:01:24,773 | Anybody find a purse? | Anybody find a purse? |
38 | 00:01:24,857 | 00:01:26,658 | - No. No cell phone, no I.D. | - No. No cell phone, no I.D. |
39 | 00:01:26,726 | 00:01:27,776 | Hey, you think maybe a working girl? | Hey, you think maybe a working girl? |
40 | 00:01:27,860 | 00:01:29,694 | She brought a john up here? | She brought a john up here? |
41 | 00:01:29,745 | 00:01:32,063 | - Her clothes are clean, no track marks on her arms, | - Her clothes are clean, no track marks on her arms, |
42 | 00:01:32,114 | 00:01:33,264 | No chips in her manicure. | No chips in her manicure. |
43 | 00:01:33,332 | 00:01:34,866 | - She could have been here forever | - She could have been here forever |
44 | 00:01:34,917 | 00:01:36,534 | Before somebody found her. | Before somebody found her. |
45 | 00:01:36,585 | 00:01:39,754 | - I think that was the plan. | - I think that was the plan. |
46 | 00:02:31,590 | 00:02:34,058 | - Well, she's fresh. Died sometime last night. | - Well, she's fresh. Died sometime last night. |
47 | 00:02:34,109 | 00:02:36,744 | Cause of death is definitely strangulation. | Cause of death is definitely strangulation. |
48 | 00:02:36,829 | 00:02:38,095 | The bruises look hand-shaped. | The bruises look hand-shaped. |
49 | 00:02:38,163 | 00:02:39,580 | I'll put her in the fridge | I'll put her in the fridge |
50 | 00:02:39,665 | 00:02:40,665 | And see if I can get more definition. | And see if I can get more definition. |
51 | 00:02:40,732 | 00:02:42,200 | - Any signs of sexual assault? | - Any signs of sexual assault? |
52 | 00:02:42,251 | 00:02:44,669 | - There's no vaginal tearing and there's no semen in her, | - There's no vaginal tearing and there's no semen in her, |
53 | 00:02:44,736 | 00:02:47,338 | So she hadn't had sex within 72 hours | So she hadn't had sex within 72 hours |
54 | 00:02:47,405 | 00:02:48,422 | Or she used a condom. | Or she used a condom. |
55 | 00:02:48,507 | 00:02:51,759 | But...I did find this. | But...I did find this. |
56 | 00:02:51,844 | 00:02:54,095 | A pubic hair from her upper inner thigh, | A pubic hair from her upper inner thigh, |
57 | 00:02:54,179 | 00:02:55,880 | And it isn't hers. | And it isn't hers. |
58 | 00:02:55,931 | 00:02:56,931 | - Wrong color. | - Wrong color. |
59 | 00:02:57,015 | 00:02:58,766 | - No, wrong gender. | - No, wrong gender. |
60 | 00:02:58,851 | 00:03:00,584 | Find the penis it belongs to and you'll have a lead. | Find the penis it belongs to and you'll have a lead. |
61 | 00:03:00,636 | 00:03:04,555 | - We'll get right on that. | - We'll get right on that. |
62 | 00:03:04,606 | 00:03:07,475 | - Lieutenant, we got a hit. | - Lieutenant, we got a hit. |
63 | 00:03:07,559 | 00:03:11,062 | - What would you think m.R.S. Stands for | - What would you think m.R.S. Stands for |
64 | 00:03:11,113 | 00:03:13,130 | On a hospital bill? | On a hospital bill? |
65 | 00:03:13,198 | 00:03:14,432 | - What? | - What? |
66 | 00:03:14,500 | 00:03:16,234 | - M.R.S. On a hospital bill. | - M.R.S. On a hospital bill. |
67 | 00:03:16,285 | 00:03:18,569 | - Mrs.? | - Mrs.? |
68 | 00:03:18,620 | 00:03:21,789 | - It costs $89 and it's not covered by insurance. | - It costs $89 and it's not covered by insurance. |
69 | 00:03:21,874 | 00:03:25,376 | - Well, then that's definitely not mrs. | - Well, then that's definitely not mrs. |
70 | 00:03:25,443 | 00:03:29,947 | - Mucous recovery system. | - Mucous recovery system. |
71 | 00:03:29,998 | 00:03:32,083 | A box of tissues. | A box of tissues. |
72 | 00:03:32,134 | 00:03:33,384 | - [laughs] | - [laughs] |
73 | 00:03:33,451 | 00:03:36,837 | - All right. One second. These... | - All right. One second. These... |
74 | 00:03:36,922 | 00:03:39,123 | These I fight, | These I fight, |
75 | 00:03:39,174 | 00:03:41,976 | These I got 30 days. | These I got 30 days. |
76 | 00:03:42,060 | 00:03:44,345 | Okay. All right. You have something. | Okay. All right. You have something. |
77 | 00:03:44,429 | 00:03:45,680 | - Yes. | - Yes. |
78 | 00:03:45,764 | 00:03:48,816 | Our jane doe's name is megan kerik. | Our jane doe's name is megan kerik. |
79 | 00:03:48,901 | 00:03:50,134 | Her fingerprints matched a set | Her fingerprints matched a set |
80 | 00:03:50,185 | 00:03:51,302 | In the pentagon's database. | In the pentagon's database. |
81 | 00:03:51,370 | 00:03:53,354 | - She was a soldier. | - She was a soldier. |
82 | 00:03:53,438 | 00:03:54,572 | - No, a freelance journalist | - No, a freelance journalist |
83 | 00:03:54,639 | 00:03:57,308 | Who accompanied a uso troupe to afghanistan. | Who accompanied a uso troupe to afghanistan. |
84 | 00:03:57,376 | 00:03:59,610 | The pentagon, they take their prints and dna | The pentagon, they take their prints and dna |
85 | 00:03:59,661 | 00:04:01,779 | In case they're blown up by an I.E.D. | In case they're blown up by an I.E.D. |
86 | 00:04:01,830 | 00:04:03,447 | - That's thoughtful. | - That's thoughtful. |
87 | 00:04:03,498 | 00:04:04,832 | - They also list next of kin. | - They also list next of kin. |
88 | 00:04:04,917 | 00:04:06,367 | I just got off the phone with ms. Kerik's sister | I just got off the phone with ms. Kerik's sister |
89 | 00:04:06,451 | 00:04:07,535 | In san diego. | In san diego. |
90 | 00:04:07,619 | 00:04:10,004 | They weren't very close, but she said | They weren't very close, but she said |
91 | 00:04:10,088 | 00:04:11,155 | Megan wasn't married, | Megan wasn't married, |
92 | 00:04:11,223 | 00:04:12,323 | She'd never heard of any boyfriend, | She'd never heard of any boyfriend, |
93 | 00:04:12,374 | 00:04:13,925 | And our victim spent most of her time | And our victim spent most of her time |
94 | 00:04:13,992 | 00:04:16,493 | Writing for a website called citysmear.Com. | Writing for a website called citysmear.Com. |
95 | 00:04:16,545 | 00:04:17,878 | - Is that what it sounds like? | - Is that what it sounds like? |
96 | 00:04:17,963 | 00:04:21,182 | - Digs up dirt on celebrities and others. | - Digs up dirt on celebrities and others. |
97 | 00:04:21,266 | 00:04:22,883 | And the more embarrassing, the more they like it. | And the more embarrassing, the more they like it. |
98 | 00:04:22,968 | 00:04:26,437 | - You'd better find out who ms. Kerik | - You'd better find out who ms. Kerik |
99 | 00:04:26,504 | 00:04:29,106 | Had been embarrassing lately. | Had been embarrassing lately. |
100 | 00:04:32,010 | 00:04:34,228 | - Megan kerik. She's been murdered. | - Megan kerik. She's been murdered. |
101 | 00:04:34,313 | 00:04:36,347 | - We were hoping you could help us out. | - We were hoping you could help us out. |
102 | 00:04:36,398 | 00:04:37,648 | - Has this been reported anywhere yet? | - Has this been reported anywhere yet? |
103 | 00:04:37,699 | 00:04:39,900 | - You're looking for a scoop? | - You're looking for a scoop? |
104 | 00:04:39,985 | 00:04:42,737 | - It depends what she was working on. | - It depends what she was working on. |
105 | 00:04:42,821 | 00:04:44,071 | Derek. | Derek. |
106 | 00:04:44,156 | 00:04:45,873 | - Yeah. | - Yeah. |
107 | 00:04:45,958 | 00:04:48,075 | - What was megan kerik working on? | - What was megan kerik working on? |
108 | 00:04:48,160 | 00:04:49,293 | - I don't know. | - I don't know. |
109 | 00:04:49,361 | 00:04:50,461 | Just that thing about | Just that thing about |
110 | 00:04:50,528 | 00:04:52,196 | The big environmental movie star | The big environmental movie star |
111 | 00:04:52,247 | 00:04:54,832 | Who sent her cocker spaniel to paris, why? | Who sent her cocker spaniel to paris, why? |
112 | 00:04:54,883 | 00:04:56,200 | - These are police. | - These are police. |
113 | 00:04:56,251 | 00:04:58,386 | Megan's been killed. | Megan's been killed. |
114 | 00:04:58,470 | 00:04:59,720 | - Has it been reported anywhere yet? | - Has it been reported anywhere yet? |
115 | 00:04:59,805 | 00:05:01,505 | - It doesn't matter. | - It doesn't matter. |
116 | 00:05:01,556 | 00:05:03,391 | Megan wasn't working on anything for us | Megan wasn't working on anything for us |
117 | 00:05:03,475 | 00:05:04,875 | That could get her killed, if that's what you're asking. | That could get her killed, if that's what you're asking. |
118 | 00:05:04,926 | 00:05:08,045 | - You figure the cocker spaniel's in the clear, then? | - You figure the cocker spaniel's in the clear, then? |
119 | 00:05:08,113 | 00:05:09,313 | - That's-- | - That's-- |
120 | 00:05:09,381 | 00:05:10,898 | [chuckles] | [chuckles] |
121 | 00:05:10,983 | 00:05:14,185 | - How well did you know ms. Kerik? | - How well did you know ms. Kerik? |
122 | 00:05:14,236 | 00:05:15,269 | - She was a freelance contributor. | - She was a freelance contributor. |
123 | 00:05:15,354 | 00:05:16,554 | We have hundreds. | We have hundreds. |
124 | 00:05:16,622 | 00:05:18,406 | - She have a desk? We'd like to take a look. | - She have a desk? We'd like to take a look. |
125 | 00:05:18,490 | 00:05:21,926 | - No, as far as I know, she worked from home. | - No, as far as I know, she worked from home. |
126 | 00:05:24,696 | 00:05:26,747 | - Shopping list. | - Shopping list. |
127 | 00:05:26,832 | 00:05:29,900 | Yogurt, coffee, ink cartridges, cupcakes. | Yogurt, coffee, ink cartridges, cupcakes. |
128 | 00:05:29,951 | 00:05:32,336 | - Yeah, a freelancer's diet. | - Yeah, a freelancer's diet. |
129 | 00:05:32,404 | 00:05:34,288 | This place is neat and tidy. | This place is neat and tidy. |
130 | 00:05:34,373 | 00:05:35,423 | If she was killed here, | If she was killed here, |
131 | 00:05:35,507 | 00:05:36,740 | She didn't put up much of a fight. | She didn't put up much of a fight. |
132 | 00:05:36,792 | 00:05:39,210 | - The ink cartridges would be for the printer here. | - The ink cartridges would be for the printer here. |
133 | 00:05:39,261 | 00:05:40,411 | You see a computer? | You see a computer? |
134 | 00:05:40,462 | 00:05:42,246 | - Nope. | - Nope. |
135 | 00:05:42,297 | 00:05:43,597 | - Somebody took it. | - Somebody took it. |
136 | 00:05:43,682 | 00:05:45,850 | This file drawer's unlocked. | This file drawer's unlocked. |
137 | 00:05:45,917 | 00:05:47,134 | There's a big gap inside. | There's a big gap inside. |
138 | 00:05:47,219 | 00:05:51,806 | - The killer took her purse. | - The killer took her purse. |
139 | 00:05:51,890 | 00:05:53,140 | He had her keys. | He had her keys. |
140 | 00:05:53,225 | 00:05:55,526 | - She was working on something or he thought she was. | - She was working on something or he thought she was. |
141 | 00:05:55,593 | 00:05:58,112 | - What? | - What? |
142 | 00:06:01,650 | 00:06:03,067 | - Look, it's sara. | - Look, it's sara. |
143 | 00:06:03,118 | 00:06:06,487 | I'm sorry, but I really don't want to talk about this. | I'm sorry, but I really don't want to talk about this. |
144 | 00:06:06,571 | 00:06:09,106 | I think you should just forget the story. | I think you should just forget the story. |
145 | 00:06:09,157 | 00:06:12,609 | It's just going to upset a lot of people for no reason. | It's just going to upset a lot of people for no reason. |
146 | 00:06:15,447 | 00:06:17,998 | - What did megan want from you, exactly? | - What did megan want from you, exactly? |
147 | 00:06:18,083 | 00:06:20,301 | - I only met her that one time. | - I only met her that one time. |
148 | 00:06:20,385 | 00:06:21,786 | She emailed me out of the blue | She emailed me out of the blue |
149 | 00:06:21,853 | 00:06:23,454 | And said she wanted to interview me for a story. | And said she wanted to interview me for a story. |
150 | 00:06:23,522 | 00:06:25,005 | - A story about what? | - A story about what? |
151 | 00:06:25,090 | 00:06:28,926 | - People who sleep with their bosses. | - People who sleep with their bosses. |
152 | 00:06:28,977 | 00:06:30,261 | Which I did. | Which I did. |
153 | 00:06:30,312 | 00:06:31,996 | - And didn't want to talk about. | - And didn't want to talk about. |
154 | 00:06:32,064 | 00:06:34,131 | - I have a boyfriend. | - I have a boyfriend. |
155 | 00:06:34,199 | 00:06:35,266 | I have parents. | I have parents. |
156 | 00:06:35,333 | 00:06:38,152 | I have a new boss, I... | I have a new boss, I... |
157 | 00:06:38,236 | 00:06:39,437 | I really didn't need for them to know. | I really didn't need for them to know. |
158 | 00:06:39,488 | 00:06:41,472 | - Yeah, but megan was going to do the story anyway. | - Yeah, but megan was going to do the story anyway. |
159 | 00:06:41,523 | 00:06:42,490 | - I don't know. | - I don't know. |
160 | 00:06:42,574 | 00:06:43,807 | I never talked to her again. | I never talked to her again. |
161 | 00:06:43,859 | 00:06:44,942 | - If you'd never met her before, | - If you'd never met her before, |
162 | 00:06:44,993 | 00:06:47,611 | How did she know about your history? | How did she know about your history? |
163 | 00:06:47,679 | 00:06:48,946 | - She said that she talked to a woman | - She said that she talked to a woman |
164 | 00:06:48,997 | 00:06:50,281 | Who used to work where I used to work | Who used to work where I used to work |
165 | 00:06:50,332 | 00:06:53,534 | And had the same... Position before I did. | And had the same... Position before I did. |
166 | 00:06:53,618 | 00:06:55,820 | - That would be your position with the boss. | - That would be your position with the boss. |
167 | 00:06:55,887 | 00:06:58,322 | - No one lasted more than a few months. | - No one lasted more than a few months. |
168 | 00:06:58,390 | 00:07:01,959 | - Sara, we're going to need to talk to this guy. | - Sara, we're going to need to talk to this guy. |
169 | 00:07:02,010 | 00:07:05,496 | - Uh, that's just the thing. | - Uh, that's just the thing. |
170 | 00:07:05,547 | 00:07:08,466 | It's not a he. | It's not a he. |
171 | 00:07:08,517 | 00:07:10,134 | - What? | - What? |
172 | 00:07:10,185 | 00:07:12,236 | Well, maybe that's what you'd advise | Well, maybe that's what you'd advise |
173 | 00:07:12,304 | 00:07:13,854 | A teenage daughter, bella. | A teenage daughter, bella. |
174 | 00:07:13,939 | 00:07:16,207 | Uh, remind me never to send my kid to talk to you. | Uh, remind me never to send my kid to talk to you. |
175 | 00:07:16,274 | 00:07:19,894 | But seriously, I think we can all agree | But seriously, I think we can all agree |
176 | 00:07:19,978 | 00:07:21,445 | That communication with our children... | That communication with our children... |
177 | 00:07:21,513 | 00:07:22,730 | - Vanessa carville. | - Vanessa carville. |
178 | 00:07:22,814 | 00:07:25,366 | - Megan kerik wasn't writing an article | - Megan kerik wasn't writing an article |
179 | 00:07:25,450 | 00:07:26,850 | About women sleeping with their bosses. | About women sleeping with their bosses. |
180 | 00:07:26,902 | 00:07:28,903 | She was writing about women who were sleeping with | She was writing about women who were sleeping with |
181 | 00:07:28,987 | 00:07:30,721 | Vanessa carville. | Vanessa carville. |
182 | 00:07:30,789 | 00:07:31,989 | - And that may have included megan. | - And that may have included megan. |
183 | 00:07:32,040 | 00:07:34,542 | It turns out that before she reduced herself | It turns out that before she reduced herself |
184 | 00:07:34,626 | 00:07:36,527 | To digging up gossip for citysmear, | To digging up gossip for citysmear, |
185 | 00:07:36,578 | 00:07:39,380 | She was a production associate on the sisters. | She was a production associate on the sisters. |
186 | 00:07:39,464 | 00:07:41,549 | - I love this show. | - I love this show. |
187 | 00:07:41,633 | 00:07:44,502 | It's a great way of turning off your brain for an hour. | It's a great way of turning off your brain for an hour. |
188 | 00:07:44,553 | 00:07:46,370 | - Well, would you love it as much if you knew | - Well, would you love it as much if you knew |
189 | 00:07:46,421 | 00:07:49,006 | Vanessa carville was plowing through | Vanessa carville was plowing through |
190 | 00:07:49,057 | 00:07:50,391 | Her female employees? | Her female employees? |
191 | 00:07:50,475 | 00:07:53,260 | - Uh. She's married. She has a family. | - Uh. She's married. She has a family. |
192 | 00:07:53,345 | 00:07:56,947 | - Yeah, if she caught wind what megan was writing about... | - Yeah, if she caught wind what megan was writing about... |
193 | 00:07:57,015 | 00:07:58,599 | - Go see her. | - Go see her. |
194 | 00:07:58,683 | 00:07:59,850 | You know, if it were for anything else, | You know, if it were for anything else, |
195 | 00:07:59,901 | 00:08:02,019 | I'd ask you to get me tickets to the show. | I'd ask you to get me tickets to the show. |
196 | 00:08:02,070 | 00:08:03,854 | And one more thing: | And one more thing: |
197 | 00:08:03,905 | 00:08:06,056 | You know, I don't know what kind of downtown look | You know, I don't know what kind of downtown look |
198 | 00:08:06,107 | 00:08:09,393 | You guys are going for with the stubble and all, | You guys are going for with the stubble and all, |
199 | 00:08:09,444 | 00:08:10,861 | But it's not working. | But it's not working. |
200 | 00:08:10,912 | 00:08:12,780 | - [chuckles] for downtown or for you? | - [chuckles] for downtown or for you? |
201 | 00:08:12,864 | 00:08:14,198 | - Both. | - Both. |
202 | 00:08:14,249 | 00:08:17,785 | Have you looked in the mirror lately, detective? | Have you looked in the mirror lately, detective? |
203 | 00:08:17,869 | 00:08:20,371 | You're not in karachi anymore. | You're not in karachi anymore. |
204 | 00:08:20,422 | 00:08:22,506 | All right? | All right? |
205 | 00:08:22,574 | 00:08:25,576 | - Mm-hmm. Okay. | - Mm-hmm. Okay. |
206 | 00:08:29,264 | 00:08:31,582 | - ...Of the trust that people have in you. | - ...Of the trust that people have in you. |
207 | 00:08:31,633 | 00:08:35,186 | And you know in the end it always comes down to trust. | And you know in the end it always comes down to trust. |
208 | 00:08:35,253 | 00:08:36,470 | Am I right, ladies? | Am I right, ladies? |
209 | 00:08:36,555 | 00:08:38,088 | Who's with me? | Who's with me? |
210 | 00:08:38,139 | 00:08:40,191 | Can I get a what-what? | Can I get a what-what? |
211 | 00:08:40,258 | 00:08:42,526 | - You ever watch her show? | - You ever watch her show? |
212 | 00:08:42,594 | 00:08:45,563 | - Sure, when I'm not knitting booties for my cat. | - Sure, when I'm not knitting booties for my cat. |
213 | 00:08:45,614 | 00:08:48,098 | There she is. | There she is. |
214 | 00:08:48,149 | 00:08:49,733 | - You think one of those guys is her husband? | - You think one of those guys is her husband? |
215 | 00:08:49,784 | 00:08:51,902 | - Well, this could be awkward. | - Well, this could be awkward. |
216 | 00:08:51,953 | 00:08:55,656 | - Well, that's why we get paid the big bucks. | - Well, that's why we get paid the big bucks. |
217 | 00:08:55,740 | 00:08:57,208 | Ms. Carville. | Ms. Carville. |
218 | 00:08:57,275 | 00:08:59,376 | - Yes. | - Yes. |
219 | 00:08:59,444 | 00:09:01,378 | - Mr. Mccoy. | - Mr. Mccoy. |
220 | 00:09:01,446 | 00:09:05,883 | - Detectives. | - Detectives. |
221 | 00:09:05,950 | 00:09:08,168 | You must be mind readers. | You must be mind readers. |
222 | 00:09:08,253 | 00:09:11,522 | I was just going to call one p.P. | I was just going to call one p.P. |
223 | 00:09:11,590 | 00:09:15,392 | You may know vanessa carville, by reputation, anyway. | You may know vanessa carville, by reputation, anyway. |
224 | 00:09:15,460 | 00:09:18,345 | She just came to me with her attorney | She just came to me with her attorney |
225 | 00:09:18,430 | 00:09:20,464 | To report a crime. | To report a crime. |
226 | 00:09:20,532 | 00:09:23,567 | She's being blackmailed. | She's being blackmailed. |
227 | 00:09:33,716 | 00:09:35,433 | - I leave for the studio early. | - I leave for the studio early. |
228 | 00:09:35,518 | 00:09:37,769 | I like to read the papers before anyone else gets there. | I like to read the papers before anyone else gets there. |
229 | 00:09:37,853 | 00:09:40,555 | So it was about 6:00 a.M. | So it was about 6:00 a.M. |
230 | 00:09:40,623 | 00:09:43,691 | I came out of my house and nearly tripped over it. | I came out of my house and nearly tripped over it. |
231 | 00:09:43,759 | 00:09:45,493 | - "personal and confidential." | - "personal and confidential." |
232 | 00:09:45,561 | 00:09:46,978 | - I'd say that was an understatement. | - I'd say that was an understatement. |
233 | 00:09:47,062 | 00:09:48,279 | - Did you see who left it? | - Did you see who left it? |
234 | 00:09:48,364 | 00:09:50,798 | - No. My driver pulled up just then. | - No. My driver pulled up just then. |
235 | 00:09:50,866 | 00:09:52,116 | I had brought it into the back seat with me | I had brought it into the back seat with me |
236 | 00:09:52,201 | 00:09:53,201 | And took a look. | And took a look. |
237 | 00:09:53,268 | 00:09:54,619 | What I saw? | What I saw? |
238 | 00:09:54,703 | 00:09:57,805 | Let's just say I didn't need a second cup of coffee. | Let's just say I didn't need a second cup of coffee. |
239 | 00:09:57,873 | 00:10:01,709 | - Emails, diary entries, photos, | - Emails, diary entries, photos, |
240 | 00:10:01,777 | 00:10:06,113 | Messages, you with various women. | Messages, you with various women. |
241 | 00:10:06,165 | 00:10:07,282 | Are they authentic? | Are they authentic? |
242 | 00:10:07,349 | 00:10:08,883 | - Does that matter? | - Does that matter? |
243 | 00:10:08,951 | 00:10:10,385 | - It probably does. | - It probably does. |
244 | 00:10:10,452 | 00:10:11,553 | - They're real. | - They're real. |
245 | 00:10:11,620 | 00:10:13,805 | But I'd rather deal with it, all of it, | But I'd rather deal with it, all of it, |
246 | 00:10:13,889 | 00:10:15,990 | Than pay $3 million to some blackmailer. | Than pay $3 million to some blackmailer. |
247 | 00:10:16,058 | 00:10:19,293 | - The cover letter asks for $3 million | - The cover letter asks for $3 million |
248 | 00:10:19,345 | 00:10:21,362 | Or this will all be published in a book. | Or this will all be published in a book. |
249 | 00:10:21,430 | 00:10:23,681 | Ms. Carville is supposed to stand by at home | Ms. Carville is supposed to stand by at home |
250 | 00:10:23,766 | 00:10:25,683 | For a phone call today at noon | For a phone call today at noon |
251 | 00:10:25,768 | 00:10:27,235 | To arrange payment. | To arrange payment. |
252 | 00:10:27,302 | 00:10:30,021 | - A lot of this concerns a woman named megan kerik. | - A lot of this concerns a woman named megan kerik. |
253 | 00:10:30,105 | 00:10:31,239 | - I'm aware. | - I'm aware. |
254 | 00:10:31,306 | 00:10:34,943 | Things with megan ended rather...Awkwardly. | Things with megan ended rather...Awkwardly. |
255 | 00:10:34,994 | 00:10:36,444 | It's occurred to me this might be | It's occurred to me this might be |
256 | 00:10:36,495 | 00:10:37,829 | Some sort of attempt at revenge. | Some sort of attempt at revenge. |
257 | 00:10:37,913 | 00:10:41,416 | - Megan kerik was murdered two nights ago. | - Megan kerik was murdered two nights ago. |
258 | 00:10:41,483 | 00:10:44,085 | - Oh, god. | - Oh, god. |
259 | 00:10:44,152 | 00:10:46,854 | - And before she died, she was interviewing women | - And before she died, she was interviewing women |
260 | 00:10:46,922 | 00:10:48,990 | For a proposed article about this. | For a proposed article about this. |
261 | 00:10:49,041 | 00:10:52,093 | - So I'm a suspect. | - So I'm a suspect. |
262 | 00:10:52,160 | 00:10:53,828 | - Vanessa-- - I have to be. | - Vanessa-- - I have to be. |
263 | 00:10:53,879 | 00:10:55,496 | - Did you know she was working on that article? | - Did you know she was working on that article? |
264 | 00:10:55,547 | 00:10:56,598 | - No. | - No. |
265 | 00:10:56,665 | 00:10:59,601 | I hadn't talked to megan in over a year. | I hadn't talked to megan in over a year. |
266 | 00:10:59,668 | 00:11:01,853 | This is awful, just... | This is awful, just... |
267 | 00:11:01,937 | 00:11:06,391 | Worse and worse. | Worse and worse. |
268 | 00:11:06,475 | 00:11:07,942 | So what do we do now? | So what do we do now? |
269 | 00:11:08,010 | 00:11:10,511 | - It can't be a coincidence that the blackmail | - It can't be a coincidence that the blackmail |
270 | 00:11:10,579 | 00:11:13,114 | Comes at the same time as the murder. | Comes at the same time as the murder. |
271 | 00:11:13,182 | 00:11:14,365 | We play along with the blackmailer, | We play along with the blackmailer, |
272 | 00:11:14,450 | 00:11:15,550 | If you're up to it. | If you're up to it. |
273 | 00:11:15,618 | 00:11:17,785 | Are you? | Are you? |
274 | 00:11:17,853 | 00:11:19,153 | - Well, I've gotta get to the studio, | - Well, I've gotta get to the studio, |
275 | 00:11:19,204 | 00:11:21,355 | But I'll be home before noon. | But I'll be home before noon. |
276 | 00:11:21,407 | 00:11:23,958 | - Well, I'd like to get my people in before that. | - Well, I'd like to get my people in before that. |
277 | 00:11:24,026 | 00:11:27,211 | - I'll arrange for it. Jack. | - I'll arrange for it. Jack. |
278 | 00:11:27,296 | 00:11:30,665 | Thank you. | Thank you. |
279 | 00:11:37,840 | 00:11:39,107 | - What do you think? | - What do you think? |
280 | 00:11:39,174 | 00:11:41,676 | - Well, if she killed megan kerik to keep her quiet, | - Well, if she killed megan kerik to keep her quiet, |
281 | 00:11:41,744 | 00:11:44,395 | Coming forward with a bogus blackmail story | Coming forward with a bogus blackmail story |
282 | 00:11:44,480 | 00:11:46,981 | Would be a pretty smart way to throw us off. | Would be a pretty smart way to throw us off. |
283 | 00:11:47,049 | 00:11:49,550 | - I find that hard to believe. | - I find that hard to believe. |
284 | 00:11:49,618 | 00:11:52,987 | But just in case... | But just in case... |
285 | 00:12:00,896 | 00:12:03,197 | - This blackmailer, whoever he is, | - This blackmailer, whoever he is, |
286 | 00:12:03,248 | 00:12:04,449 | Is probably the murderer, right? | Is probably the murderer, right? |
287 | 00:12:04,533 | 00:12:05,750 | - It's possible. | - It's possible. |
288 | 00:12:05,834 | 00:12:07,835 | - Half the stuff in that envelope came from megan. | - Half the stuff in that envelope came from megan. |
289 | 00:12:07,903 | 00:12:09,203 | The rest could have been stuff she gathered. | The rest could have been stuff she gathered. |
290 | 00:12:09,254 | 00:12:11,122 | So he got it from her, | So he got it from her, |
291 | 00:12:11,206 | 00:12:12,790 | Maybe she tried to back out... | Maybe she tried to back out... |
292 | 00:12:12,875 | 00:12:14,342 | - That's a theory. | - That's a theory. |
293 | 00:12:14,409 | 00:12:15,960 | - And the other theory is that I did it? | - And the other theory is that I did it? |
294 | 00:12:16,045 | 00:12:17,612 | - That's a theory. | - That's a theory. |
295 | 00:12:17,680 | 00:12:19,797 | - No more sandwiches for you. | - No more sandwiches for you. |
296 | 00:12:22,718 | 00:12:24,018 | It's nearly 1:00. | It's nearly 1:00. |
297 | 00:12:24,086 | 00:12:27,305 | He said he was gonna call by noon. | He said he was gonna call by noon. |
298 | 00:12:29,024 | 00:12:30,108 | - Has that bastard called yet? | - Has that bastard called yet? |
299 | 00:12:30,192 | 00:12:32,477 | - Not yet. - Why not? | - Not yet. - Why not? |
300 | 00:12:32,561 | 00:12:33,594 | I mean, what's he waiting for? | I mean, what's he waiting for? |
301 | 00:12:33,645 | 00:12:35,029 | - You don't need to be here, wayne. | - You don't need to be here, wayne. |
302 | 00:12:35,097 | 00:12:36,314 | They're...Handling it. | They're...Handling it. |
303 | 00:12:36,398 | 00:12:38,399 | - I don't know. | - I don't know. |
304 | 00:12:38,450 | 00:12:40,101 | My wife's affairs with other women, | My wife's affairs with other women, |
305 | 00:12:40,152 | 00:12:42,470 | $3 million. | $3 million. |
306 | 00:12:42,538 | 00:12:44,105 | It's a little more interesting than anything | It's a little more interesting than anything |
307 | 00:12:44,156 | 00:12:45,873 | Happening in the office today. | Happening in the office today. |
308 | 00:12:45,941 | 00:12:47,458 | - I'm heading for the studio. | - I'm heading for the studio. |
309 | 00:12:47,543 | 00:12:49,293 | You can stay if you want to. | You can stay if you want to. |
310 | 00:12:49,378 | 00:12:51,179 | All of you. | All of you. |
311 | 00:12:55,751 | 00:12:58,419 | - Just us guys. | - Just us guys. |
312 | 00:13:00,305 | 00:13:01,589 | - He never called. | - He never called. |
313 | 00:13:01,640 | 00:13:02,807 | - Did he know you were there? | - Did he know you were there? |
314 | 00:13:02,891 | 00:13:04,458 | Maybe he was watching the house. | Maybe he was watching the house. |
315 | 00:13:04,510 | 00:13:06,928 | - We were careful. There was a service entrance. | - We were careful. There was a service entrance. |
316 | 00:13:06,979 | 00:13:09,480 | - So he's leaving $3 million on the table. | - So he's leaving $3 million on the table. |
317 | 00:13:09,565 | 00:13:11,482 | - Maybe he's reformed. | - Maybe he's reformed. |
318 | 00:13:11,567 | 00:13:13,801 | - Or maybe vanessa carville made the whole thing up. | - Or maybe vanessa carville made the whole thing up. |
319 | 00:13:13,852 | 00:13:15,436 | - She didn't make this up. | - She didn't make this up. |
320 | 00:13:15,487 | 00:13:18,472 | "I see you behind the monitor and all I can think about | "I see you behind the monitor and all I can think about |
321 | 00:13:18,524 | 00:13:21,776 | Is licking the sweat rolling towards your nipple." | Is licking the sweat rolling towards your nipple." |
322 | 00:13:21,827 | 00:13:24,846 | A message from carville to megan kerik. | A message from carville to megan kerik. |
323 | 00:13:24,913 | 00:13:27,815 | Have you seen the stuff in this blackmail package? | Have you seen the stuff in this blackmail package? |
324 | 00:13:27,866 | 00:13:30,084 | - I'd have paid the $3 million. | - I'd have paid the $3 million. |
325 | 00:13:30,152 | 00:13:33,204 | - Here's one from megan's diary. | - Here's one from megan's diary. |
326 | 00:13:33,288 | 00:13:34,756 | "I was nervous at first, | "I was nervous at first, |
327 | 00:13:34,823 | 00:13:36,524 | "but we split one of her vicodins | "but we split one of her vicodins |
328 | 00:13:36,592 | 00:13:38,459 | "and a bottle of wine. | "and a bottle of wine. |
329 | 00:13:38,510 | 00:13:43,347 | And then bliss." | And then bliss." |
330 | 00:13:43,432 | 00:13:45,433 | Hey, lupes. | Hey, lupes. |
331 | 00:13:45,500 | 00:13:47,668 | Look at this. | Look at this. |
332 | 00:13:47,719 | 00:13:49,720 | What do you see? | What do you see? |
333 | 00:13:49,805 | 00:13:51,338 | - That picture. - Mm-hmm. | - That picture. - Mm-hmm. |
334 | 00:13:51,390 | 00:13:52,690 | - It's in sara bradley's apartment. | - It's in sara bradley's apartment. |
335 | 00:13:52,775 | 00:13:55,309 | - Yeah, the girl who said she didn't cooperate | - Yeah, the girl who said she didn't cooperate |
336 | 00:13:55,360 | 00:13:56,611 | With megan kerik's research. | With megan kerik's research. |
337 | 00:13:56,678 | 00:13:58,312 | - So how did that picture | - So how did that picture |
338 | 00:13:58,363 | 00:14:00,898 | End up in the blackmail surprise? | End up in the blackmail surprise? |
339 | 00:14:00,983 | 00:14:03,401 | - Yeah, I took that. | - Yeah, I took that. |
340 | 00:14:03,485 | 00:14:04,685 | But I never gave it to megan. | But I never gave it to megan. |
341 | 00:14:04,736 | 00:14:06,788 | I never gave megan anything, I told you. | I never gave megan anything, I told you. |
342 | 00:14:06,855 | 00:14:08,523 | - Well, then how did she get it? | - Well, then how did she get it? |
343 | 00:14:08,590 | 00:14:10,491 | - I don't know. What does it matter? | - I don't know. What does it matter? |
344 | 00:14:10,542 | 00:14:12,026 | - Did you give it to anybody else? | - Did you give it to anybody else? |
345 | 00:14:12,077 | 00:14:13,194 | - No, like who? | - No, like who? |
346 | 00:14:13,245 | 00:14:15,246 | - The person who got it might be the person | - The person who got it might be the person |
347 | 00:14:15,330 | 00:14:16,531 | Who murdered megan. | Who murdered megan. |
348 | 00:14:16,598 | 00:14:18,332 | If you have any involvement with him, | If you have any involvement with him, |
349 | 00:14:18,383 | 00:14:19,417 | You should tell us now. | You should tell us now. |
350 | 00:14:19,501 | 00:14:20,434 | - [scoffs] | - [scoffs] |
351 | 00:14:20,502 | 00:14:21,636 | What, like I'm an accomplice? | What, like I'm an accomplice? |
352 | 00:14:21,703 | 00:14:23,104 | That is ridiculous. | That is ridiculous. |
353 | 00:14:23,172 | 00:14:24,505 | I never gave megan anything. | I never gave megan anything. |
354 | 00:14:24,573 | 00:14:26,040 | I never gave anyone anything, | I never gave anyone anything, |
355 | 00:14:26,091 | 00:14:29,844 | And I definitely-- | And I definitely-- |
356 | 00:14:29,895 | 00:14:31,445 | My hard drive. | My hard drive. |
357 | 00:14:31,513 | 00:14:33,648 | - Your hard drive? | - Your hard drive? |
358 | 00:14:33,715 | 00:14:38,853 | - I kept some old photos on a backup hard drive. | - I kept some old photos on a backup hard drive. |
359 | 00:14:38,904 | 00:14:40,771 | A couple of weeks ago, my apartment was broken into | A couple of weeks ago, my apartment was broken into |
360 | 00:14:40,856 | 00:14:42,657 | And that was one of the things that was stolen. | And that was one of the things that was stolen. |
361 | 00:14:42,724 | 00:14:44,158 | - Okay, did you file a police report? | - Okay, did you file a police report? |
362 | 00:14:44,226 | 00:14:45,443 | - Yeah. [cell phone ringing] | - Yeah. [cell phone ringing] |
363 | 00:14:45,527 | 00:14:47,111 | Is that why somebody broke into my apartment? | Is that why somebody broke into my apartment? |
364 | 00:14:47,196 | 00:14:48,279 | Just to get that picture? | Just to get that picture? |
365 | 00:14:48,363 | 00:14:51,032 | - Lupo. | - Lupo. |
366 | 00:14:51,083 | 00:14:52,450 | All right, we'll set it up. | All right, we'll set it up. |
367 | 00:14:52,534 | 00:14:54,568 | Carville got the call. It's a go. | Carville got the call. It's a go. |
368 | 00:14:54,620 | 00:14:58,422 | Excuse us. | Excuse us. |
369 | 00:15:03,428 | 00:15:04,545 | - I got her. | - I got her. |
370 | 00:15:04,596 | 00:15:06,047 | - Got ya. | - Got ya. |
371 | 00:15:06,098 | 00:15:08,299 | Ms. Carville, can you hear us? | Ms. Carville, can you hear us? |
372 | 00:15:08,383 | 00:15:09,884 | - Yeah. Loud and clear. | - Yeah. Loud and clear. |
373 | 00:15:09,935 | 00:15:13,104 | I haven't been this nervous since I interviewed dick cheney. | I haven't been this nervous since I interviewed dick cheney. |
374 | 00:15:13,188 | 00:15:14,989 | - [chuckles] | - [chuckles] |
375 | 00:15:15,057 | 00:15:19,310 | You're doing great. | You're doing great. |
376 | 00:15:23,699 | 00:15:29,237 | Take a seat on the bench right there. | Take a seat on the bench right there. |
377 | 00:15:29,288 | 00:15:32,657 | He's late. Again. | He's late. Again. |
378 | 00:15:36,278 | 00:15:38,779 | - Visual on a male in a black overcoat. | - Visual on a male in a black overcoat. |
379 | 00:15:38,830 | 00:15:39,914 | 40 feet and closing. | 40 feet and closing. |
380 | 00:15:39,965 | 00:15:42,166 | - I got him. | - I got him. |
381 | 00:15:42,251 | 00:15:43,668 | - Oh, god. - Okay. | - Oh, god. - Okay. |
382 | 00:15:43,752 | 00:15:48,139 | Stop talking to us now. | Stop talking to us now. |
383 | 00:15:51,343 | 00:15:54,345 | - It's dipalma. Megan's editor. | - It's dipalma. Megan's editor. |
384 | 00:15:54,429 | 00:15:56,264 | - Yeah, the one who said he had no idea | - Yeah, the one who said he had no idea |
385 | 00:15:56,315 | 00:15:57,515 | What she was working on. | What she was working on. |
386 | 00:15:57,599 | 00:16:00,935 | - Well, I guess he lied. | - Well, I guess he lied. |
387 | 00:16:08,694 | 00:16:10,528 | - Did you bring the check? | - Did you bring the check? |
388 | 00:16:10,612 | 00:16:11,696 | - Who are you? | - Who are you? |
389 | 00:16:11,780 | 00:16:14,148 | - Did you bring it or not? | - Did you bring it or not? |
390 | 00:16:14,199 | 00:16:15,283 | - Why are you doing this? | - Why are you doing this? |
391 | 00:16:15,350 | 00:16:19,537 | - What the hell is she doing? | - What the hell is she doing? |
392 | 00:16:19,621 | 00:16:21,372 | - I'm not the one paying to keep dirty secrets. | - I'm not the one paying to keep dirty secrets. |
393 | 00:16:21,456 | 00:16:23,341 | - Conducting an interview. | - Conducting an interview. |
394 | 00:16:23,425 | 00:16:26,510 | - When do I get the originals of the things in that envelope? | - When do I get the originals of the things in that envelope? |
395 | 00:16:26,595 | 00:16:27,962 | - As soon as I know your check is good. | - As soon as I know your check is good. |
396 | 00:16:28,013 | 00:16:29,130 | - Oh, I'm supposed to trust you? | - Oh, I'm supposed to trust you? |
397 | 00:16:29,197 | 00:16:30,298 | - Vanessa! | - Vanessa! |
398 | 00:16:30,365 | 00:16:31,716 | - [chuckles] | - [chuckles] |
399 | 00:16:31,800 | 00:16:32,883 | You don't have a choice. | You don't have a choice. |
400 | 00:16:32,968 | 00:16:35,836 | Now you've got about ten seconds. | Now you've got about ten seconds. |
401 | 00:16:35,887 | 00:16:38,189 | - Just give him the damn check. | - Just give him the damn check. |
402 | 00:16:38,273 | 00:16:40,408 | - [scoffs] | - [scoffs] |
403 | 00:16:44,279 | 00:16:46,897 | - You should be ashamed of yourself. | - You should be ashamed of yourself. |
404 | 00:16:46,982 | 00:16:48,866 | - He's got it. | - He's got it. |
405 | 00:16:51,653 | 00:16:54,872 | - Hey, remember me? Turn around. | - Hey, remember me? Turn around. |
406 | 00:17:00,212 | 00:17:01,329 | Let's go. | Let's go. |
407 | 00:17:01,396 | 00:17:03,497 | - My client has nothing to say. | - My client has nothing to say. |
408 | 00:17:03,548 | 00:17:05,032 | - Your client just got caught red-handed | - Your client just got caught red-handed |
409 | 00:17:05,100 | 00:17:06,901 | Committing larceny by extortion. | Committing larceny by extortion. |
410 | 00:17:06,969 | 00:17:08,369 | He needs to help himself out here. | He needs to help himself out here. |
411 | 00:17:08,437 | 00:17:10,338 | - It was a simple misunderstanding. | - It was a simple misunderstanding. |
412 | 00:17:10,405 | 00:17:11,472 | - Yeah. | - Yeah. |
413 | 00:17:11,539 | 00:17:14,642 | For megan kerik, it was. | For megan kerik, it was. |
414 | 00:17:14,709 | 00:17:17,428 | She brought you her big story, didn't she? | She brought you her big story, didn't she? |
415 | 00:17:17,512 | 00:17:21,265 | She wanted you to publish it, but you had a better idea. | She wanted you to publish it, but you had a better idea. |
416 | 00:17:21,350 | 00:17:23,734 | A way of making some real money. | A way of making some real money. |
417 | 00:17:23,819 | 00:17:25,186 | Then what happened? | Then what happened? |
418 | 00:17:25,253 | 00:17:26,654 | She disagree? | She disagree? |
419 | 00:17:26,721 | 00:17:28,072 | - I had nothing to do with what happened to megan. | - I had nothing to do with what happened to megan. |
420 | 00:17:28,156 | 00:17:30,107 | - Dennis. Don't say anything. | - Dennis. Don't say anything. |
421 | 00:17:30,192 | 00:17:32,076 | No more questions. Should I try that in french? | No more questions. Should I try that in french? |
422 | 00:17:32,160 | 00:17:33,244 | - Just one more. | - Just one more. |
423 | 00:17:33,328 | 00:17:34,528 | Does you client want to give us a key | Does you client want to give us a key |
424 | 00:17:34,579 | 00:17:36,263 | To his apartment, or would he prefer | To his apartment, or would he prefer |
425 | 00:17:36,331 | 00:17:37,732 | We take the door off its hinges? | We take the door off its hinges? |
426 | 00:17:37,799 | 00:17:41,235 | The search warrant is on its way. | The search warrant is on its way. |
427 | 00:17:41,303 | 00:17:43,921 | - What did the police find? | - What did the police find? |
428 | 00:17:44,006 | 00:17:45,906 | - Enough to nail dipalma on the blackmail | - Enough to nail dipalma on the blackmail |
429 | 00:17:45,957 | 00:17:47,458 | Ten times over. | Ten times over. |
430 | 00:17:47,542 | 00:17:49,427 | Megan kerik's notebooks and diaries, | Megan kerik's notebooks and diaries, |
431 | 00:17:49,511 | 00:17:51,045 | The originals of all the blackmail material, | The originals of all the blackmail material, |
432 | 00:17:51,096 | 00:17:53,914 | The stolen computer hard drive. | The stolen computer hard drive. |
433 | 00:17:53,965 | 00:17:56,283 | - How about for the murder of megan kerik? | - How about for the murder of megan kerik? |
434 | 00:17:56,351 | 00:17:58,052 | - The pubic hair found in dipalma's sheets | - The pubic hair found in dipalma's sheets |
435 | 00:17:58,120 | 00:17:59,553 | Matches the hair found on her body. | Matches the hair found on her body. |
436 | 00:17:59,621 | 00:18:01,989 | - So they were lovers. And? | - So they were lovers. And? |
437 | 00:18:02,057 | 00:18:03,991 | - Well, it seems pretty obvious what happened. | - Well, it seems pretty obvious what happened. |
438 | 00:18:04,059 | 00:18:07,094 | Megan felt burned by her relationship with carville. | Megan felt burned by her relationship with carville. |
439 | 00:18:07,145 | 00:18:09,113 | She was expecting a promotion, at least. | She was expecting a promotion, at least. |
440 | 00:18:09,197 | 00:18:12,400 | Instead, got dumped for the next flavor of the month | Instead, got dumped for the next flavor of the month |
441 | 00:18:12,451 | 00:18:13,567 | And then laid off. | And then laid off. |
442 | 00:18:13,618 | 00:18:14,935 | It's all in her diaries. | It's all in her diaries. |
443 | 00:18:15,003 | 00:18:16,237 | She wanted to get even. | She wanted to get even. |
444 | 00:18:16,288 | 00:18:18,439 | - And dipalma hijacked her article | - And dipalma hijacked her article |
445 | 00:18:18,490 | 00:18:20,291 | And turned it into blackmail. | And turned it into blackmail. |
446 | 00:18:20,375 | 00:18:22,076 | Can you prove that? | Can you prove that? |
447 | 00:18:22,144 | 00:18:24,178 | - That wasn't in her diary. | - That wasn't in her diary. |
448 | 00:18:24,246 | 00:18:26,130 | - So what have you got on the murder? | - So what have you got on the murder? |
449 | 00:18:26,214 | 00:18:27,998 | - Enough to nail dipalma on the blackmail | - Enough to nail dipalma on the blackmail |
450 | 00:18:28,083 | 00:18:31,252 | Ten times over. | Ten times over. |
451 | 00:18:31,303 | 00:18:33,120 | - It's better than nothing. | - It's better than nothing. |
452 | 00:18:33,171 | 00:18:35,556 | And it could be a lever to shake something loose. | And it could be a lever to shake something loose. |
453 | 00:18:35,623 | 00:18:37,858 | Move on it. | Move on it. |
454 | 00:18:41,430 | 00:18:44,348 | - Case 34321, people v. Dennis dipalma. | - Case 34321, people v. Dennis dipalma. |
455 | 00:18:44,433 | 00:18:46,300 | Attempted grand larceny in the first degree. | Attempted grand larceny in the first degree. |
456 | 00:18:46,351 | 00:18:48,652 | - The defendant enters a plea of not guilty. | - The defendant enters a plea of not guilty. |
457 | 00:18:48,737 | 00:18:50,020 | - People request remand, your honor. | - People request remand, your honor. |
458 | 00:18:50,105 | 00:18:51,906 | In addition to the crime he's charged with here today, | In addition to the crime he's charged with here today, |
459 | 00:18:51,973 | 00:18:55,276 | Mr. Dipalma is the key suspect in a related homicide. | Mr. Dipalma is the key suspect in a related homicide. |
460 | 00:18:55,343 | 00:18:56,827 | - Says who? Based on what? | - Says who? Based on what? |
461 | 00:18:56,912 | 00:18:58,446 | That's completely irrelevant to the issue of bail | That's completely irrelevant to the issue of bail |
462 | 00:18:58,513 | 00:18:59,613 | On this charge. | On this charge. |
463 | 00:18:59,664 | 00:19:01,549 | - This is the attempted extortion | - This is the attempted extortion |
464 | 00:19:01,616 | 00:19:03,551 | Of that television personality? | Of that television personality? |
465 | 00:19:03,618 | 00:19:05,652 | For $3 million, is that correct? | For $3 million, is that correct? |
466 | 00:19:05,704 | 00:19:07,872 | - That's the charge, but mr. Dipalma is innocent. | - That's the charge, but mr. Dipalma is innocent. |
467 | 00:19:07,956 | 00:19:09,990 | - You mentioned that. | - You mentioned that. |
468 | 00:19:10,041 | 00:19:11,659 | Meanwhile for bail, why don't we pick a number | Meanwhile for bail, why don't we pick a number |
469 | 00:19:11,726 | 00:19:13,961 | That is relevant to this case. | That is relevant to this case. |
470 | 00:19:14,012 | 00:19:15,679 | $3 million. | $3 million. |
471 | 00:19:15,764 | 00:19:17,715 | [bangs gavel] | [bangs gavel] |
472 | 00:19:17,799 | 00:19:21,168 | [reporters shouting questions] | [reporters shouting questions] |
473 | 00:19:21,219 | 00:19:22,553 | - In this case so far, | - In this case so far, |
474 | 00:19:22,637 | 00:19:24,271 | We've only heard one side of the story, | We've only heard one side of the story, |
475 | 00:19:24,339 | 00:19:25,556 | Ms. Carville's side, | Ms. Carville's side, |
476 | 00:19:25,640 | 00:19:27,892 | Which the police and district attorney | Which the police and district attorney |
477 | 00:19:27,976 | 00:19:29,610 | Have swallowed whole. | Have swallowed whole. |
478 | 00:19:29,677 | 00:19:31,845 | But this case isn't just about the motive, | But this case isn't just about the motive, |
479 | 00:19:31,897 | 00:19:33,814 | Intent, and conduct of dennis dipalma, | Intent, and conduct of dennis dipalma, |
480 | 00:19:33,865 | 00:19:37,118 | It's also about the motive, intent, and conduct | It's also about the motive, intent, and conduct |
481 | 00:19:37,185 | 00:19:38,536 | Of vanessa carville. | Of vanessa carville. |
482 | 00:19:38,620 | 00:19:40,521 | Mr. Dipalma looks forward to telling | Mr. Dipalma looks forward to telling |
483 | 00:19:40,572 | 00:19:42,206 | The full story in court, | The full story in court, |
484 | 00:19:42,290 | 00:19:44,875 | And if in defending his reputation | And if in defending his reputation |
485 | 00:19:44,960 | 00:19:46,410 | Other people's are damaged, well, | Other people's are damaged, well, |
486 | 00:19:46,495 | 00:19:49,079 | It's just the way it's gotta be. | It's just the way it's gotta be. |
487 | 00:19:49,164 | 00:19:52,917 | I for one have a few questions for ms. Carville. | I for one have a few questions for ms. Carville. |
488 | 00:19:53,001 | 00:19:55,636 | Actually, more than a few. | Actually, more than a few. |
489 | 00:19:55,703 | 00:19:59,890 | - Now the real blackmail begins. | - Now the real blackmail begins. |
490 | 00:20:04,515 | 00:20:05,798 | - It's only fair, your honor. | - It's only fair, your honor. |
491 | 00:20:05,883 | 00:20:07,483 | Mr. Dipalma has the right to get his side of the story out. | Mr. Dipalma has the right to get his side of the story out. |
492 | 00:20:07,551 | 00:20:10,470 | - This is rather a long list of material you're seeking. | - This is rather a long list of material you're seeking. |
493 | 00:20:10,554 | 00:20:12,055 | - All of which is likely to lead to credible | - All of which is likely to lead to credible |
494 | 00:20:12,106 | 00:20:13,423 | And relevant evidence for the defense. | And relevant evidence for the defense. |
495 | 00:20:13,490 | 00:20:16,693 | - Ms. Carville's tax returns for the past ten years. | - Ms. Carville's tax returns for the past ten years. |
496 | 00:20:16,760 | 00:20:18,394 | - To see if she's taken any business deductions | - To see if she's taken any business deductions |
497 | 00:20:18,445 | 00:20:20,730 | For the purchase of embarrassing material. | For the purchase of embarrassing material. |
498 | 00:20:20,781 | 00:20:22,982 | - What, you think she itemized previous blackmail attempts? | - What, you think she itemized previous blackmail attempts? |
499 | 00:20:23,067 | 00:20:24,317 | - I want to know if she's bought any material | - I want to know if she's bought any material |
500 | 00:20:24,401 | 00:20:26,602 | Similar to that offered her by mr. Dipalma. | Similar to that offered her by mr. Dipalma. |
501 | 00:20:26,654 | 00:20:28,154 | - He wasn't selling her a book. | - He wasn't selling her a book. |
502 | 00:20:28,238 | 00:20:30,940 | He was committing larceny by extortion. | He was committing larceny by extortion. |
503 | 00:20:31,008 | 00:20:32,942 | - Actually, he was conducting a journalistic sting. | - Actually, he was conducting a journalistic sting. |
504 | 00:20:32,993 | 00:20:36,079 | Mr. Dipalma was going to publish an expose | Mr. Dipalma was going to publish an expose |
505 | 00:20:36,146 | 00:20:37,747 | Of ms. Carville's behavior on his website. | Of ms. Carville's behavior on his website. |
506 | 00:20:37,815 | 00:20:39,015 | - Well, then why didn't he? | - Well, then why didn't he? |
507 | 00:20:39,083 | 00:20:43,419 | Why demand a $3 million check not to publish it? | Why demand a $3 million check not to publish it? |
508 | 00:20:43,470 | 00:20:45,221 | - He was never gonna cash that check. | - He was never gonna cash that check. |
509 | 00:20:45,288 | 00:20:47,306 | He was gonna post of a photo of it on his website | He was gonna post of a photo of it on his website |
510 | 00:20:47,391 | 00:20:49,308 | As proof that she had something to hide. | As proof that she had something to hide. |
511 | 00:20:49,393 | 00:20:51,177 | - We are straying into absolute fantasy here. | - We are straying into absolute fantasy here. |
512 | 00:20:51,261 | 00:20:52,478 | - Really? | - Really? |
513 | 00:20:52,563 | 00:20:54,797 | What kind of blackmailer asks for payment by check? | What kind of blackmailer asks for payment by check? |
514 | 00:20:54,848 | 00:20:56,482 | - A dumb one. | - A dumb one. |
515 | 00:20:56,567 | 00:20:57,967 | This isn't an intelligence test. | This isn't an intelligence test. |
516 | 00:20:58,018 | 00:20:59,819 | This is a criminal proceeding. | This is a criminal proceeding. |
517 | 00:20:59,903 | 00:21:02,405 | And these defense subpoenas are onerous, | And these defense subpoenas are onerous, |
518 | 00:21:02,473 | 00:21:04,607 | Unreasonable, and designed merely | Unreasonable, and designed merely |
519 | 00:21:04,658 | 00:21:06,743 | To harass the victim of the crime. | To harass the victim of the crime. |
520 | 00:21:06,810 | 00:21:10,913 | I mean, full personnel files of more than 200 | I mean, full personnel files of more than 200 |
521 | 00:21:10,981 | 00:21:14,617 | Of ms. Carville's employees going back to 1992? | Of ms. Carville's employees going back to 1992? |
522 | 00:21:14,668 | 00:21:16,169 | - Have any complained of sexual harassment? | - Have any complained of sexual harassment? |
523 | 00:21:16,253 | 00:21:18,321 | Have any been granted special treatment | Have any been granted special treatment |
524 | 00:21:18,389 | 00:21:19,822 | In exchange for sexual favors? | In exchange for sexual favors? |
525 | 00:21:19,890 | 00:21:23,026 | - Your requests are extraordinary, mr. Baron. | - Your requests are extraordinary, mr. Baron. |
526 | 00:21:23,093 | 00:21:26,796 | But I will see the briefs on this. | But I will see the briefs on this. |
527 | 00:21:29,233 | 00:21:31,367 | - The judge is going to allow it? | - The judge is going to allow it? |
528 | 00:21:31,435 | 00:21:33,936 | - No, she just hasn't decided yet. | - No, she just hasn't decided yet. |
529 | 00:21:34,004 | 00:21:36,189 | I can't imagine she'll give him everything he's asking for. | I can't imagine she'll give him everything he's asking for. |
530 | 00:21:36,273 | 00:21:38,307 | - But some of what he's asking for. | - But some of what he's asking for. |
531 | 00:21:38,375 | 00:21:40,276 | - We're using all of our resources. | - We're using all of our resources. |
532 | 00:21:40,343 | 00:21:41,811 | The law is on our side. | The law is on our side. |
533 | 00:21:41,879 | 00:21:43,679 | - I just had a candid talk with my audience | - I just had a candid talk with my audience |
534 | 00:21:43,731 | 00:21:45,615 | About this whole situation. | About this whole situation. |
535 | 00:21:45,682 | 00:21:48,184 | I hoped I would never have to say anything else. | I hoped I would never have to say anything else. |
536 | 00:21:48,252 | 00:21:51,187 | - Well, you will have to be a witness at the trial. | - Well, you will have to be a witness at the trial. |
537 | 00:21:51,255 | 00:21:53,406 | - I guess I knew that. | - I guess I knew that. |
538 | 00:21:53,490 | 00:21:55,958 | I just didn't... | I just didn't... |
539 | 00:21:56,026 | 00:21:57,910 | Things are a little tense right now | Things are a little tense right now |
540 | 00:21:57,995 | 00:21:59,045 | On the home front. | On the home front. |
541 | 00:21:59,129 | 00:22:01,531 | My husband or his attorney may end up | My husband or his attorney may end up |
542 | 00:22:01,598 | 00:22:03,382 | Sitting at that trial taking notes | Sitting at that trial taking notes |
543 | 00:22:03,467 | 00:22:05,367 | If we end up fighting over child custody. | If we end up fighting over child custody. |
544 | 00:22:05,419 | 00:22:06,586 | The things that could come out. | The things that could come out. |
545 | 00:22:06,670 | 00:22:09,972 | - I promise you, we'll fight to keep the trial | - I promise you, we'll fight to keep the trial |
546 | 00:22:10,040 | 00:22:12,391 | As narrowly focused as we can. | As narrowly focused as we can. |
547 | 00:22:12,476 | 00:22:14,060 | - The other guy's the criminal. | - The other guy's the criminal. |
548 | 00:22:14,144 | 00:22:15,728 | Why are we doing all the fighting? | Why are we doing all the fighting? |
549 | 00:22:15,813 | 00:22:18,898 | Oh, boy. | Oh, boy. |
550 | 00:22:18,982 | 00:22:20,183 | - Child custody? | - Child custody? |
551 | 00:22:20,234 | 00:22:22,852 | She's probably wishing she paid the $3 million. | She's probably wishing she paid the $3 million. |
552 | 00:22:22,903 | 00:22:24,153 | - Baron's playing a game. | - Baron's playing a game. |
553 | 00:22:24,221 | 00:22:26,072 | Nothing he's asking for is relevant. | Nothing he's asking for is relevant. |
554 | 00:22:26,156 | 00:22:27,740 | - That judge might disagree. | - That judge might disagree. |
555 | 00:22:27,825 | 00:22:29,275 | - Well, we'll handle it. | - Well, we'll handle it. |
556 | 00:22:29,359 | 00:22:30,693 | Meanwhile, let's shoot down the claim | Meanwhile, let's shoot down the claim |
557 | 00:22:30,744 | 00:22:32,745 | That dipalma was practicing journalism, | That dipalma was practicing journalism, |
558 | 00:22:32,830 | 00:22:34,063 | Not blackmail. | Not blackmail. |
559 | 00:22:34,114 | 00:22:36,749 | That check that he was supposedly never gonna cash. | That check that he was supposedly never gonna cash. |
560 | 00:22:36,834 | 00:22:38,417 | - Yeah, made out at his request | - Yeah, made out at his request |
561 | 00:22:38,502 | 00:22:40,286 | To something called feature literistics. | To something called feature literistics. |
562 | 00:22:40,370 | 00:22:42,004 | - Yeah, what the hell is that? | - Yeah, what the hell is that? |
563 | 00:22:44,942 | 00:22:46,042 | - I'm a little busy. | - I'm a little busy. |
564 | 00:22:46,110 | 00:22:47,243 | The owner made me acting editor | The owner made me acting editor |
565 | 00:22:47,294 | 00:22:49,178 | Until this business with dennis gets sorted out. | Until this business with dennis gets sorted out. |
566 | 00:22:49,246 | 00:22:50,746 | - Well, by the looks of things, you might be acting | - Well, by the looks of things, you might be acting |
567 | 00:22:50,798 | 00:22:51,798 | For the next eight to ten. | For the next eight to ten. |
568 | 00:22:51,882 | 00:22:53,549 | - Oh, no, thank you. | - Oh, no, thank you. |
569 | 00:22:53,600 | 00:22:54,767 | Getting a little tired of sorting through | Getting a little tired of sorting through |
570 | 00:22:54,852 | 00:22:56,385 | Celebrity trash. | Celebrity trash. |
571 | 00:22:56,436 | 00:22:57,603 | But I might be going back to school, though. | But I might be going back to school, though. |
572 | 00:22:57,688 | 00:22:59,122 | Maybe architecture. | Maybe architecture. |
573 | 00:22:59,189 | 00:23:00,773 | - I just needed to know, | - I just needed to know, |
574 | 00:23:00,858 | 00:23:01,891 | Have you ever heard of something called | Have you ever heard of something called |
575 | 00:23:01,942 | 00:23:03,442 | Feature literistics? | Feature literistics? |
576 | 00:23:03,527 | 00:23:05,094 | - Feature literistics? | - Feature literistics? |
577 | 00:23:05,145 | 00:23:06,529 | Sounds like a literary enterprise | Sounds like a literary enterprise |
578 | 00:23:06,596 | 00:23:07,897 | Named by someone who can't read. | Named by someone who can't read. |
579 | 00:23:07,948 | 00:23:10,616 | - Was dipalma involved with anything with that name-- | - Was dipalma involved with anything with that name-- |
580 | 00:23:10,701 | 00:23:12,601 | A publishing house, a magazine, | A publishing house, a magazine, |
581 | 00:23:12,653 | 00:23:13,769 | Anything with a bank account? | Anything with a bank account? |
582 | 00:23:13,837 | 00:23:14,937 | - I gotta tell you, | - I gotta tell you, |
583 | 00:23:14,988 | 00:23:16,122 | I think you're on wrong trail here. | I think you're on wrong trail here. |
584 | 00:23:16,206 | 00:23:17,406 | Dennis was never hard up for money. | Dennis was never hard up for money. |
585 | 00:23:17,457 | 00:23:19,375 | He has a nice apartment, a nice car, | He has a nice apartment, a nice car, |
586 | 00:23:19,442 | 00:23:21,077 | Takes nice vacations. | Takes nice vacations. |
587 | 00:23:21,128 | 00:23:22,995 | - Vacations where? | - Vacations where? |
588 | 00:23:23,080 | 00:23:25,014 | Cayman islands. | Cayman islands. |
589 | 00:23:25,082 | 00:23:27,083 | - An offshore bank account. | - An offshore bank account. |
590 | 00:23:27,134 | 00:23:29,618 | - Opened one month ago in the name | - Opened one month ago in the name |
591 | 00:23:29,670 | 00:23:31,304 | Of feature literistics, | Of feature literistics, |
592 | 00:23:31,388 | 00:23:34,006 | A corporation registered to a bahamas post office box. | A corporation registered to a bahamas post office box. |
593 | 00:23:34,091 | 00:23:36,592 | - Mr. Dipalma went to a lot of trouble | - Mr. Dipalma went to a lot of trouble |
594 | 00:23:36,643 | 00:23:39,628 | To create an untraceable account to deposit a check | To create an untraceable account to deposit a check |
595 | 00:23:39,680 | 00:23:41,063 | That he was never gonna cash. | That he was never gonna cash. |
596 | 00:23:41,131 | 00:23:42,431 | - Yeah, he was definitely more interested | - Yeah, he was definitely more interested |
597 | 00:23:42,482 | 00:23:45,134 | In the $3 million than the pulitzer prize. | In the $3 million than the pulitzer prize. |
598 | 00:23:45,185 | 00:23:46,519 | But there's more. | But there's more. |
599 | 00:23:46,603 | 00:23:48,437 | He opened the account in person | He opened the account in person |
600 | 00:23:48,488 | 00:23:51,073 | During a three-day stay at a beach resort | During a three-day stay at a beach resort |
601 | 00:23:51,141 | 00:23:52,642 | With megan kerik. | With megan kerik. |
602 | 00:23:52,709 | 00:23:55,778 | - Little more pubic hair transferring going on? | - Little more pubic hair transferring going on? |
603 | 00:23:55,846 | 00:23:57,280 | - Apparently. | - Apparently. |
604 | 00:23:57,331 | 00:23:58,915 | Either they were doing the blackmail together | Either they were doing the blackmail together |
605 | 00:23:58,982 | 00:24:00,116 | And had a falling out-- | And had a falling out-- |
606 | 00:24:00,167 | 00:24:03,652 | - Or she really was working on an article... | - Or she really was working on an article... |
607 | 00:24:03,704 | 00:24:04,820 | He found out about it, | He found out about it, |
608 | 00:24:04,888 | 00:24:07,256 | Decided to go the blackmail route instead. | Decided to go the blackmail route instead. |
609 | 00:24:07,324 | 00:24:10,159 | She didn't want to go along, and he kills her. | She didn't want to go along, and he kills her. |
610 | 00:24:10,210 | 00:24:12,495 | - Or his accomplice did. | - Or his accomplice did. |
611 | 00:24:12,563 | 00:24:14,297 | - What accomplice? | - What accomplice? |
612 | 00:24:14,364 | 00:24:16,165 | - The weekend they were in the caribbean, | - The weekend they were in the caribbean, |
613 | 00:24:16,216 | 00:24:18,434 | It's the same weekend sara bradley's apartment | It's the same weekend sara bradley's apartment |
614 | 00:24:18,501 | 00:24:20,436 | Was broken into, and her hard drive | Was broken into, and her hard drive |
615 | 00:24:20,503 | 00:24:22,305 | With the compromising photos | With the compromising photos |
616 | 00:24:22,356 | 00:24:24,223 | Showed up in dipalma's apartment. | Showed up in dipalma's apartment. |
617 | 00:24:24,308 | 00:24:25,892 | The police assumed that he had stolen it. | The police assumed that he had stolen it. |
618 | 00:24:25,976 | 00:24:28,861 | - Well, we all did. | - Well, we all did. |
619 | 00:24:31,181 | 00:24:34,066 | - My accomplice to what? I didn't do anything. | - My accomplice to what? I didn't do anything. |
620 | 00:24:34,151 | 00:24:35,234 | - Mr. Dipalma, | - Mr. Dipalma, |
621 | 00:24:35,319 | 00:24:39,188 | You may have an opportunity here. | You may have an opportunity here. |
622 | 00:24:39,239 | 00:24:41,540 | - I don't know what they're talking about. | - I don't know what they're talking about. |
623 | 00:24:41,625 | 00:24:43,743 | - So let him explain. | - So let him explain. |
624 | 00:24:43,827 | 00:24:45,127 | - As you know, | - As you know, |
625 | 00:24:45,195 | 00:24:48,214 | We're taking this blackmail charge very seriously. | We're taking this blackmail charge very seriously. |
626 | 00:24:48,298 | 00:24:51,167 | But murder is always a higher priority. | But murder is always a higher priority. |
627 | 00:24:51,235 | 00:24:52,568 | - Murder again? | - Murder again? |
628 | 00:24:52,636 | 00:24:53,753 | You know and I know you don't have | You know and I know you don't have |
629 | 00:24:53,837 | 00:24:55,605 | A shred of evidence against mr. Dipalma. | A shred of evidence against mr. Dipalma. |
630 | 00:24:55,672 | 00:24:57,974 | - If another person was involved, | - If another person was involved, |
631 | 00:24:58,041 | 00:25:00,559 | And mr. Dipalma can help us find that person, | And mr. Dipalma can help us find that person, |
632 | 00:25:00,644 | 00:25:02,762 | Then there's always the possibility | Then there's always the possibility |
633 | 00:25:02,846 | 00:25:06,715 | Of a plea negotiation. | Of a plea negotiation. |
634 | 00:25:06,767 | 00:25:08,351 | - Sara bradley's computer hard drive | - Sara bradley's computer hard drive |
635 | 00:25:08,402 | 00:25:11,787 | Was found in your apartment after it was stolen from hers. | Was found in your apartment after it was stolen from hers. |
636 | 00:25:11,855 | 00:25:14,290 | How did it come into your possession? | How did it come into your possession? |
637 | 00:25:14,358 | 00:25:16,108 | - That was research for my expose. | - That was research for my expose. |
638 | 00:25:16,193 | 00:25:17,743 | I got it myself. | I got it myself. |
639 | 00:25:17,828 | 00:25:19,462 | - You're confessing to burglary? | - You're confessing to burglary? |
640 | 00:25:19,529 | 00:25:22,131 | - He's not confessing to anything. | - He's not confessing to anything. |
641 | 00:25:22,199 | 00:25:24,750 | - Well, he's covering for somebody. | - Well, he's covering for somebody. |
642 | 00:25:24,835 | 00:25:27,670 | Why? | Why? |
643 | 00:25:30,040 | 00:25:32,375 | - Well, I guess we don't have anything else to say. | - Well, I guess we don't have anything else to say. |
644 | 00:25:32,426 | 00:25:36,379 | Except... | Except... |
645 | 00:25:36,430 | 00:25:38,431 | - I've been reviewing the briefs in this matter | - I've been reviewing the briefs in this matter |
646 | 00:25:38,515 | 00:25:39,598 | With interest. | With interest. |
647 | 00:25:39,683 | 00:25:41,183 | But I see no basis for the defense | But I see no basis for the defense |
648 | 00:25:41,251 | 00:25:42,918 | To get ms. Carville's tax records. | To get ms. Carville's tax records. |
649 | 00:25:42,970 | 00:25:44,437 | And the request to see | And the request to see |
650 | 00:25:44,521 | 00:25:45,972 | The notes of her marriage counseling sessions | The notes of her marriage counseling sessions |
651 | 00:25:46,056 | 00:25:48,524 | Is out of bounds for about five different reasons. | Is out of bounds for about five different reasons. |
652 | 00:25:48,591 | 00:25:51,477 | - The, uh, personnel files of ms. Carville's employees | - The, uh, personnel files of ms. Carville's employees |
653 | 00:25:51,561 | 00:25:53,896 | Are likewise privileged and confidential. | Are likewise privileged and confidential. |
654 | 00:25:53,947 | 00:25:56,132 | - They're also relevant and material on their face. | - They're also relevant and material on their face. |
655 | 00:25:56,199 | 00:25:58,167 | This case is all about ms. Carville's | This case is all about ms. Carville's |
656 | 00:25:58,235 | 00:25:59,568 | Relationships with her employees. | Relationships with her employees. |
657 | 00:25:59,636 | 00:26:01,904 | - Actually, it's about your client's attempt | - Actually, it's about your client's attempt |
658 | 00:26:01,955 | 00:26:03,239 | To commit blackmail. | To commit blackmail. |
659 | 00:26:03,290 | 00:26:04,573 | If you lost your copy of the indictment, | If you lost your copy of the indictment, |
660 | 00:26:04,624 | 00:26:07,643 | You can take a look at mine. | You can take a look at mine. |
661 | 00:26:07,711 | 00:26:09,278 | - The material mr. Dipalma compiled | - The material mr. Dipalma compiled |
662 | 00:26:09,346 | 00:26:11,881 | Came largely from a woman named megan kerik. | Came largely from a woman named megan kerik. |
663 | 00:26:11,948 | 00:26:13,983 | - Whom we suspect mr. Dipalma of murdering. | - Whom we suspect mr. Dipalma of murdering. |
664 | 00:26:14,051 | 00:26:15,167 | - I didn't see any mention of that | - I didn't see any mention of that |
665 | 00:26:15,252 | 00:26:16,919 | In the indictment either. | In the indictment either. |
666 | 00:26:16,987 | 00:26:19,622 | Ms. Kerik had conducted research | Ms. Kerik had conducted research |
667 | 00:26:19,690 | 00:26:21,507 | Amongst ms. Carville's former employees, | Amongst ms. Carville's former employees, |
668 | 00:26:21,591 | 00:26:23,125 | Several of whom are not named. | Several of whom are not named. |
669 | 00:26:23,193 | 00:26:25,394 | We need to find these women to ask them | We need to find these women to ask them |
670 | 00:26:25,462 | 00:26:27,463 | What ms. Kerik told them about her project. | What ms. Kerik told them about her project. |
671 | 00:26:27,531 | 00:26:29,515 | - These women do not want to be dragged | - These women do not want to be dragged |
672 | 00:26:29,599 | 00:26:31,067 | Into the limelight. | Into the limelight. |
673 | 00:26:31,134 | 00:26:32,301 | - If they can shed exculpatory light | - If they can shed exculpatory light |
674 | 00:26:32,352 | 00:26:34,270 | On ms. Kerik and mr. Dipalma's intentions, | On ms. Kerik and mr. Dipalma's intentions, |
675 | 00:26:34,338 | 00:26:35,938 | That's not their choice. | That's not their choice. |
676 | 00:26:36,006 | 00:26:37,973 | My client has a right to compel their testimony. | My client has a right to compel their testimony. |
677 | 00:26:38,041 | 00:26:39,275 | - That's the one point of your argument | - That's the one point of your argument |
678 | 00:26:39,343 | 00:26:40,576 | I'll grant, mr. Baron. | I'll grant, mr. Baron. |
679 | 00:26:40,644 | 00:26:43,112 | But you need to draft your subpoena more narrowly | But you need to draft your subpoena more narrowly |
680 | 00:26:43,163 | 00:26:45,281 | To include the files only of those women | To include the files only of those women |
681 | 00:26:45,332 | 00:26:48,117 | Who might have been candidates for ms. Kerik's research. | Who might have been candidates for ms. Kerik's research. |
682 | 00:26:48,168 | 00:26:51,754 | - Very good, your honor, thank you. | - Very good, your honor, thank you. |
683 | 00:26:51,821 | 00:26:53,122 | - Former lovers on parade. | - Former lovers on parade. |
684 | 00:26:53,173 | 00:26:54,924 | I wonder how vanessa carville's gonna feel about that. | I wonder how vanessa carville's gonna feel about that. |
685 | 00:26:54,991 | 00:26:58,344 | - I'll go talk to her. | - I'll go talk to her. |
686 | 00:26:58,428 | 00:27:00,796 | [knocking on door] | [knocking on door] |
687 | 00:27:00,847 | 00:27:02,715 | - How did it go? | - How did it go? |
688 | 00:27:02,799 | 00:27:04,467 | - See for yourself. | - See for yourself. |
689 | 00:27:04,518 | 00:27:07,136 | - Well, I don't know about the rest of you, | - Well, I don't know about the rest of you, |
690 | 00:27:07,187 | 00:27:10,439 | But I've been having a pretty lousy week. | But I've been having a pretty lousy week. |
691 | 00:27:10,507 | 00:27:12,441 | Yeah, thank you. | Yeah, thank you. |
692 | 00:27:12,509 | 00:27:13,609 | [clears throat] | [clears throat] |
693 | 00:27:13,676 | 00:27:14,843 | As I mentioned before, | As I mentioned before, |
694 | 00:27:14,895 | 00:27:18,230 | I've done some pretty kinky things in my life. | I've done some pretty kinky things in my life. |
695 | 00:27:18,315 | 00:27:20,900 | I mean, was anybody really surprised? | I mean, was anybody really surprised? |
696 | 00:27:20,984 | 00:27:22,068 | [chuckles] | [chuckles] |
697 | 00:27:22,152 | 00:27:24,853 | But now, owing to the wondrous nature | But now, owing to the wondrous nature |
698 | 00:27:24,905 | 00:27:27,022 | Of our legal system, | Of our legal system, |
699 | 00:27:27,074 | 00:27:28,707 | The man accused of blackmailing me | The man accused of blackmailing me |
700 | 00:27:28,792 | 00:27:31,410 | About those things has been granted the right | About those things has been granted the right |
701 | 00:27:31,495 | 00:27:33,829 | To drag a whole lot of wonderful people | To drag a whole lot of wonderful people |
702 | 00:27:33,880 | 00:27:35,965 | Who've worked for me through the mud. | Who've worked for me through the mud. |
703 | 00:27:36,032 | 00:27:38,367 | [audience jeering] yeah, I know. | [audience jeering] yeah, I know. |
704 | 00:27:38,418 | 00:27:39,668 | - She's good. | - She's good. |
705 | 00:27:39,719 | 00:27:41,387 | - I know. It's true. | - I know. It's true. |
706 | 00:27:41,471 | 00:27:43,589 | And on some level, that's fair, I guess, | And on some level, that's fair, I guess, |
707 | 00:27:43,673 | 00:27:45,541 | But...I think it stinks. | But...I think it stinks. |
708 | 00:27:45,609 | 00:27:49,678 | And as much as I would like to see justice done, | And as much as I would like to see justice done, |
709 | 00:27:49,729 | 00:27:51,647 | I wouldn't be able to live with myself | I wouldn't be able to live with myself |
710 | 00:27:51,715 | 00:27:53,482 | If I thought so many good people, | If I thought so many good people, |
711 | 00:27:53,550 | 00:27:57,386 | So many good friends-- many of whom I've already hurt-- | So many good friends-- many of whom I've already hurt-- |
712 | 00:27:57,454 | 00:28:01,190 | Would have their reputations and lives messed up. | Would have their reputations and lives messed up. |
713 | 00:28:01,258 | 00:28:06,278 | So...I feel I have no choice. | So...I feel I have no choice. |
714 | 00:28:06,363 | 00:28:10,166 | I am going to abandon my complaint against this man, | I am going to abandon my complaint against this man, |
715 | 00:28:10,233 | 00:28:13,419 | Even if it means a blackmailer goes free. | Even if it means a blackmailer goes free. |
716 | 00:28:13,503 | 00:28:17,139 | - Not to mention a murderer. | - Not to mention a murderer. |
717 | 00:28:17,207 | 00:28:18,624 | - Right. | - Right. |
718 | 00:28:23,555 | 00:28:25,606 | - The defense motion to dismiss is premature. | - The defense motion to dismiss is premature. |
719 | 00:28:25,691 | 00:28:27,225 | Our evidence hasn't disappeared. | Our evidence hasn't disappeared. |
720 | 00:28:27,292 | 00:28:29,694 | - Your complaining witness has, mr. Cutter. | - Your complaining witness has, mr. Cutter. |
721 | 00:28:29,762 | 00:28:31,145 | I do read the papers. | I do read the papers. |
722 | 00:28:31,230 | 00:28:32,730 | - The trial hasn't even begun. | - The trial hasn't even begun. |
723 | 00:28:32,781 | 00:28:35,299 | It's a little early to say that she's not gonna show up. | It's a little early to say that she's not gonna show up. |
724 | 00:28:35,367 | 00:28:37,118 | - She just told 10 million people she wouldn't. | - She just told 10 million people she wouldn't. |
725 | 00:28:37,202 | 00:28:38,503 | - Yes. | - Yes. |
726 | 00:28:38,570 | 00:28:40,321 | And that made good television, didn't it? | And that made good television, didn't it? |
727 | 00:28:40,406 | 00:28:42,290 | We are continuing communication | We are continuing communication |
728 | 00:28:42,374 | 00:28:44,042 | With the victim of this crime-- | With the victim of this crime-- |
729 | 00:28:44,109 | 00:28:46,044 | - And good luck to you. | - And good luck to you. |
730 | 00:28:46,111 | 00:28:47,412 | I won't dismiss for now, | I won't dismiss for now, |
731 | 00:28:47,463 | 00:28:49,347 | But I'm releasing mr. Dipalma on his own recognizance. | But I'm releasing mr. Dipalma on his own recognizance. |
732 | 00:28:49,415 | 00:28:52,383 | There doesn't seem to be much point to keep him in jail | There doesn't seem to be much point to keep him in jail |
733 | 00:28:52,451 | 00:28:54,252 | Waiting for a trial that may never happen. | Waiting for a trial that may never happen. |
734 | 00:28:54,319 | 00:28:55,586 | [bangs gavel] | [bangs gavel] |
735 | 00:28:59,925 | 00:29:01,125 | - Well, that's great. | - Well, that's great. |
736 | 00:29:01,176 | 00:29:02,977 | Now he and his accomplice can go out for a beer | Now he and his accomplice can go out for a beer |
737 | 00:29:03,062 | 00:29:06,681 | And have a big laugh about this whole thing. | And have a big laugh about this whole thing. |
738 | 00:29:06,765 | 00:29:08,816 | - You know what? | - You know what? |
739 | 00:29:08,901 | 00:29:13,488 | That might not be a bad idea. | That might not be a bad idea. |
740 | 00:29:13,572 | 00:29:15,189 | [knocking on door] | [knocking on door] |
741 | 00:29:15,274 | 00:29:17,141 | - Have you seen what's on the internet? | - Have you seen what's on the internet? |
742 | 00:29:17,192 | 00:29:20,278 | It says here dennis dipalma | It says here dennis dipalma |
743 | 00:29:20,329 | 00:29:22,646 | Just got half a million dollars | Just got half a million dollars |
744 | 00:29:22,698 | 00:29:25,199 | To write a book about vanessa carville. | To write a book about vanessa carville. |
745 | 00:29:25,284 | 00:29:26,384 | - Well, his lawyer | - Well, his lawyer |
746 | 00:29:26,452 | 00:29:28,503 | Always said it was a journalistic project. | Always said it was a journalistic project. |
747 | 00:29:28,587 | 00:29:29,954 | He's only $2.5 million short. | He's only $2.5 million short. |
748 | 00:29:30,005 | 00:29:31,289 | - So far. | - So far. |
749 | 00:29:31,340 | 00:29:34,041 | There's still paperback, first serial, movie rights. | There's still paperback, first serial, movie rights. |
750 | 00:29:34,126 | 00:29:36,994 | This could be as profitable as what he tried with carville. | This could be as profitable as what he tried with carville. |
751 | 00:29:37,062 | 00:29:41,265 | - Publishing that material is perfectly legal, | - Publishing that material is perfectly legal, |
752 | 00:29:41,333 | 00:29:43,551 | While threatening to publish it is a felony. | While threatening to publish it is a felony. |
753 | 00:29:43,635 | 00:29:44,886 | That doesn't seem to make sense, | That doesn't seem to make sense, |
754 | 00:29:44,970 | 00:29:46,053 | Yet somehow it does. | Yet somehow it does. |
755 | 00:29:46,138 | 00:29:49,891 | - Because it's coercion. | - Because it's coercion. |
756 | 00:29:49,975 | 00:29:53,611 | - Glad to know we prosecute it for a reason. | - Glad to know we prosecute it for a reason. |
757 | 00:30:12,131 | 00:30:14,665 | [telephone rings] | [telephone rings] |
758 | 00:30:14,716 | 00:30:15,716 | - Yeah. | - Yeah. |
759 | 00:30:15,801 | 00:30:18,302 | - Feel good to be back? | - Feel good to be back? |
760 | 00:30:18,370 | 00:30:19,670 | - What do you think? | - What do you think? |
761 | 00:30:19,721 | 00:30:21,472 | - I hear congratulations are in order. | - I hear congratulations are in order. |
762 | 00:30:21,540 | 00:30:23,257 | - Yeah, graduated top of my class at rikers. | - Yeah, graduated top of my class at rikers. |
763 | 00:30:23,342 | 00:30:25,243 | - I just read about your book deal. | - I just read about your book deal. |
764 | 00:30:25,310 | 00:30:28,479 | Surprised you didn't call me to share the good news. | Surprised you didn't call me to share the good news. |
765 | 00:30:28,547 | 00:30:30,681 | - No one's called me. It's just publishing gossip. | - No one's called me. It's just publishing gossip. |
766 | 00:30:30,749 | 00:30:33,401 | - Half a million dollars. I want 250. | - Half a million dollars. I want 250. |
767 | 00:30:33,485 | 00:30:35,069 | - There's no money. It's just a rumor. | - There's no money. It's just a rumor. |
768 | 00:30:35,154 | 00:30:36,354 | - Really? | - Really? |
769 | 00:30:36,405 | 00:30:37,605 | Are you hiding it in the caymans | Are you hiding it in the caymans |
770 | 00:30:37,689 | 00:30:38,739 | Like you were gonna hide the money from carville? | Like you were gonna hide the money from carville? |
771 | 00:30:38,824 | 00:30:39,907 | - There's nothing to hide. | - There's nothing to hide. |
772 | 00:30:39,992 | 00:30:41,492 | I'm telling you, I swear. | I'm telling you, I swear. |
773 | 00:30:41,560 | 00:30:42,893 | - Are you sure that's the way you want to be? | - Are you sure that's the way you want to be? |
774 | 00:30:42,945 | 00:30:45,997 | - It worked. The phony book deal story. | - It worked. The phony book deal story. |
775 | 00:30:46,064 | 00:30:47,782 | - I thought it might give dipalma and his friend | - I thought it might give dipalma and his friend |
776 | 00:30:47,866 | 00:30:49,167 | Something to talk about. | Something to talk about. |
777 | 00:30:49,234 | 00:30:51,068 | Do the police know who the caller is? | Do the police know who the caller is? |
778 | 00:30:51,136 | 00:30:52,587 | - Yeah, derek fanning. | - Yeah, derek fanning. |
779 | 00:30:52,671 | 00:30:54,038 | Works on the website. I met him. | Works on the website. I met him. |
780 | 00:30:54,089 | 00:30:56,073 | He told me he was thinking about going to architecture school. | He told me he was thinking about going to architecture school. |
781 | 00:30:56,141 | 00:30:58,543 | - Guess he's raising tuition money. | - Guess he's raising tuition money. |
782 | 00:30:58,610 | 00:30:59,877 | - Yeah, well, there were two calls | - Yeah, well, there were two calls |
783 | 00:30:59,928 | 00:31:01,295 | Made after this one. | Made after this one. |
784 | 00:31:01,380 | 00:31:02,480 | Fanning kept asking for money, | Fanning kept asking for money, |
785 | 00:31:02,548 | 00:31:03,948 | Dipalma kept saying there wasn't any, | Dipalma kept saying there wasn't any, |
786 | 00:31:04,016 | 00:31:05,249 | Fanning kept calling him a liar. | Fanning kept calling him a liar. |
787 | 00:31:05,317 | 00:31:07,318 | [cell phone rings] | [cell phone rings] |
788 | 00:31:07,386 | 00:31:11,088 | Hello? | Hello? |
789 | 00:31:11,139 | 00:31:14,058 | We'll be right over. Thanks. | We'll be right over. Thanks. |
790 | 00:31:14,109 | 00:31:15,610 | It was lieutenant van buren. | It was lieutenant van buren. |
791 | 00:31:15,694 | 00:31:19,363 | The police just found megan kerik's missing laptop. | The police just found megan kerik's missing laptop. |
792 | 00:31:22,301 | 00:31:24,902 | - It was dropped off in the lobby of megan's building | - It was dropped off in the lobby of megan's building |
793 | 00:31:24,953 | 00:31:27,572 | With a note saying that it had been found abandoned | With a note saying that it had been found abandoned |
794 | 00:31:27,623 | 00:31:29,290 | In a coffee shop. | In a coffee shop. |
795 | 00:31:29,374 | 00:31:32,076 | Megan's address was on a sticker on the bottom. | Megan's address was on a sticker on the bottom. |
796 | 00:31:32,127 | 00:31:34,495 | - Well, that was very nice of some good samaritan. | - Well, that was very nice of some good samaritan. |
797 | 00:31:34,580 | 00:31:36,497 | - Oh, you have no idea. | - Oh, you have no idea. |
798 | 00:31:36,582 | 00:31:39,467 | Wait until you see the video we found on it. | Wait until you see the video we found on it. |
799 | 00:31:39,551 | 00:31:42,086 | Play it. | Play it. |
800 | 00:31:42,137 | 00:31:44,255 | [whimpering and struggling] | [whimpering and struggling] |
801 | 00:31:44,306 | 00:31:47,625 | - A video of dipalma murdering megan kerik? | - A video of dipalma murdering megan kerik? |
802 | 00:31:47,693 | 00:31:50,261 | - Or having rough sex. | - Or having rough sex. |
803 | 00:31:50,312 | 00:31:52,847 | She didn't die. Not on camera. | She didn't die. Not on camera. |
804 | 00:31:52,931 | 00:31:56,334 | [coughing and choking] | [coughing and choking] |
805 | 00:31:56,401 | 00:31:58,769 | - Is there a date on that? | - Is there a date on that? |
806 | 00:31:58,820 | 00:32:00,137 | - The day of the murder. | - The day of the murder. |
807 | 00:32:00,188 | 00:32:02,406 | But it's not hard to fudge the time stamp | But it's not hard to fudge the time stamp |
808 | 00:32:02,474 | 00:32:04,975 | If you know what you're doing. | If you know what you're doing. |
809 | 00:32:05,027 | 00:32:06,310 | - This good samaritan, | - This good samaritan, |
810 | 00:32:06,378 | 00:32:07,778 | Do we know who it was? | Do we know who it was? |
811 | 00:32:07,829 | 00:32:10,197 | - The note was unsigned, and no prints. | - The note was unsigned, and no prints. |
812 | 00:32:10,282 | 00:32:12,083 | - If we arrest dipalma for murder based on this, | - If we arrest dipalma for murder based on this, |
813 | 00:32:12,150 | 00:32:13,817 | There's a provenance issue. | There's a provenance issue. |
814 | 00:32:13,869 | 00:32:15,586 | - Well, that's the least of it. | - Well, that's the least of it. |
815 | 00:32:15,654 | 00:32:17,955 | You see his right hand? | You see his right hand? |
816 | 00:32:18,006 | 00:32:19,290 | That ring would leave marks. | That ring would leave marks. |
817 | 00:32:19,341 | 00:32:20,625 | The m.E. Didn't find | The m.E. Didn't find |
818 | 00:32:20,676 | 00:32:23,194 | Any matching marks on the victim's neck. | Any matching marks on the victim's neck. |
819 | 00:32:23,262 | 00:32:24,362 | - Well, she was still alive. | - Well, she was still alive. |
820 | 00:32:24,429 | 00:32:25,996 | He took the ring off before he killed her. | He took the ring off before he killed her. |
821 | 00:32:26,048 | 00:32:29,133 | - If he's the one who did. | - If he's the one who did. |
822 | 00:32:29,184 | 00:32:31,502 | - There's a reflection in the alarm clock. | - There's a reflection in the alarm clock. |
823 | 00:32:31,553 | 00:32:36,340 | [coughing and choking] | [coughing and choking] |
824 | 00:32:36,391 | 00:32:39,510 | - Someone else was in the room. | - Someone else was in the room. |
825 | 00:32:39,561 | 00:32:42,680 | - Okay, so on its face, this is evidence | - Okay, so on its face, this is evidence |
826 | 00:32:42,748 | 00:32:44,649 | That dipalma is a murderer, | That dipalma is a murderer, |
827 | 00:32:44,700 | 00:32:47,702 | But it miraculously shows up right after | But it miraculously shows up right after |
828 | 00:32:47,786 | 00:32:50,688 | Dipalma's accomplice demands $250,000 | Dipalma's accomplice demands $250,000 |
829 | 00:32:50,739 | 00:32:53,658 | And dipalma tells him he can't pay. | And dipalma tells him he can't pay. |
830 | 00:32:53,709 | 00:32:57,662 | - The blackmailer was being blackmailed. | - The blackmailer was being blackmailed. |
831 | 00:32:57,746 | 00:33:02,833 | [coughing and choking] | [coughing and choking] |
832 | 00:33:02,884 | 00:33:04,101 | - So what's new? | - So what's new? |
833 | 00:33:04,169 | 00:33:05,269 | It's no secret my client was dating her. | It's no secret my client was dating her. |
834 | 00:33:05,337 | 00:33:07,004 | - Dating? | - Dating? |
835 | 00:33:07,072 | 00:33:09,039 | That's what you call it? | That's what you call it? |
836 | 00:33:09,091 | 00:33:11,409 | - If you thought that made my client a murderer, | - If you thought that made my client a murderer, |
837 | 00:33:11,476 | 00:33:12,777 | Then he'd already be under arrest. | Then he'd already be under arrest. |
838 | 00:33:12,844 | 00:33:14,779 | - Well, we haven't given up the thought. | - Well, we haven't given up the thought. |
839 | 00:33:14,846 | 00:33:17,515 | I hope you brought your toothbrush. | I hope you brought your toothbrush. |
840 | 00:33:17,566 | 00:33:18,783 | - Something's wrong with this video, | - Something's wrong with this video, |
841 | 00:33:18,850 | 00:33:20,418 | And you know it, or we wouldn't be here. | And you know it, or we wouldn't be here. |
842 | 00:33:20,485 | 00:33:22,019 | - Well, we'd like to hear what | - Well, we'd like to hear what |
843 | 00:33:22,070 | 00:33:23,454 | Mr. Dipalma has to say about it, | Mr. Dipalma has to say about it, |
844 | 00:33:23,522 | 00:33:25,723 | About everything, | About everything, |
845 | 00:33:25,791 | 00:33:28,326 | Or this becomes people's exhibit number one | Or this becomes people's exhibit number one |
846 | 00:33:28,393 | 00:33:30,695 | At his murder trial, and we can discuss | At his murder trial, and we can discuss |
847 | 00:33:30,762 | 00:33:36,033 | What's wrong or right about it there. | What's wrong or right about it there. |
848 | 00:33:36,101 | 00:33:37,952 | - He made me do it. | - He made me do it. |
849 | 00:33:38,036 | 00:33:39,470 | - Who made you do what? | - Who made you do what? |
850 | 00:33:39,538 | 00:33:41,973 | - Derek fanning. | - Derek fanning. |
851 | 00:33:42,040 | 00:33:43,624 | He showed up while I was with megan. | He showed up while I was with megan. |
852 | 00:33:43,709 | 00:33:45,843 | With a gun. | With a gun. |
853 | 00:33:45,910 | 00:33:47,011 | - Where was he standing? | - Where was he standing? |
854 | 00:33:47,079 | 00:33:48,929 | - On the side of the bed. | - On the side of the bed. |
855 | 00:33:52,084 | 00:33:53,134 | - You knew someone was there. | - You knew someone was there. |
856 | 00:33:53,218 | 00:33:54,969 | You knew this video was fishy. | You knew this video was fishy. |
857 | 00:33:55,053 | 00:33:57,304 | - What exactly did mr. Fanning make you do? | - What exactly did mr. Fanning make you do? |
858 | 00:33:57,389 | 00:34:00,307 | - [chuckles] | - [chuckles] |
859 | 00:34:00,392 | 00:34:02,276 | Pretend to strangle megan. | Pretend to strangle megan. |
860 | 00:34:02,361 | 00:34:03,961 | He--he said he would shoot me. He was crazy. | He--he said he would shoot me. He was crazy. |
861 | 00:34:04,029 | 00:34:05,563 | - Why would he do that? | - Why would he do that? |
862 | 00:34:05,630 | 00:34:09,066 | - [sighs] | - [sighs] |
863 | 00:34:09,117 | 00:34:13,270 | When megan came to me about vanessa carville, | When megan came to me about vanessa carville, |
864 | 00:34:13,321 | 00:34:14,905 | I thought it was a great story. | I thought it was a great story. |
865 | 00:34:14,973 | 00:34:17,124 | I asked derek to help with the research. | I asked derek to help with the research. |
866 | 00:34:17,209 | 00:34:19,326 | - And he broke into sara bradley's apartment | - And he broke into sara bradley's apartment |
867 | 00:34:19,411 | 00:34:20,678 | When she wouldn't cooperate. | When she wouldn't cooperate. |
868 | 00:34:20,746 | 00:34:23,381 | - He said we shouldn't publish the story, | - He said we shouldn't publish the story, |
869 | 00:34:23,448 | 00:34:25,132 | That we could make a lot of money. | That we could make a lot of money. |
870 | 00:34:25,217 | 00:34:26,617 | And I went along. | And I went along. |
871 | 00:34:26,668 | 00:34:28,085 | I dropped the stuff at carville's door. | I dropped the stuff at carville's door. |
872 | 00:34:28,153 | 00:34:30,688 | That night, megan figured out what we were doing. | That night, megan figured out what we were doing. |
873 | 00:34:30,756 | 00:34:32,256 | She said she'd call carville. | She said she'd call carville. |
874 | 00:34:32,307 | 00:34:36,193 | She said she'd call the police, so... | She said she'd call the police, so... |
875 | 00:34:36,261 | 00:34:37,595 | Derek made me do that. | Derek made me do that. |
876 | 00:34:42,434 | 00:34:45,019 | When I left, megan was alive. | When I left, megan was alive. |
877 | 00:34:45,103 | 00:34:46,604 | Derek called me later | Derek called me later |
878 | 00:34:46,671 | 00:34:48,472 | And said that he'd "taken care" of her | And said that he'd "taken care" of her |
879 | 00:34:48,540 | 00:34:50,140 | And that it was safe | And that it was safe |
880 | 00:34:50,192 | 00:34:52,009 | To go through with the blackmail now. | To go through with the blackmail now. |
881 | 00:34:52,077 | 00:34:54,195 | I--I freaked. | I--I freaked. |
882 | 00:34:54,279 | 00:34:55,696 | I didn't call carville like I was supposed to. | I didn't call carville like I was supposed to. |
883 | 00:34:55,781 | 00:34:57,698 | Derek said that if I didn't get back into it, | Derek said that if I didn't get back into it, |
884 | 00:34:57,783 | 00:34:59,984 | He would send that video to the police. | He would send that video to the police. |
885 | 00:35:00,052 | 00:35:03,554 | So... | So... |
886 | 00:35:03,622 | 00:35:06,791 | I did what he said. | I did what he said. |
887 | 00:35:06,858 | 00:35:09,460 | - I think that's the craziest story I've ever heard. | - I think that's the craziest story I've ever heard. |
888 | 00:35:09,528 | 00:35:12,530 | - So it's gotta be true, right? | - So it's gotta be true, right? |
889 | 00:35:19,204 | 00:35:21,972 | - Case 35924, people v. Derek fanning, | - Case 35924, people v. Derek fanning, |
890 | 00:35:22,023 | 00:35:23,140 | Murder in the second degree. | Murder in the second degree. |
891 | 00:35:23,191 | 00:35:25,192 | - How do you plead? - Not guilty. | - How do you plead? - Not guilty. |
892 | 00:35:25,277 | 00:35:28,345 | - This is related to that blackmail case, ms. Rubirosa? | - This is related to that blackmail case, ms. Rubirosa? |
893 | 00:35:28,396 | 00:35:29,847 | - Yes, the defendant's accused of murdering | - Yes, the defendant's accused of murdering |
894 | 00:35:29,898 | 00:35:31,615 | The source of the blackmail information | The source of the blackmail information |
895 | 00:35:31,683 | 00:35:33,367 | When she threatened to call the police. | When she threatened to call the police. |
896 | 00:35:33,452 | 00:35:34,568 | - The people's main witness | - The people's main witness |
897 | 00:35:34,653 | 00:35:36,737 | Is the former blackmail defendant. | Is the former blackmail defendant. |
898 | 00:35:36,822 | 00:35:38,072 | He's hardly credible. | He's hardly credible. |
899 | 00:35:38,156 | 00:35:39,189 | - We believe he is. | - We believe he is. |
900 | 00:35:39,241 | 00:35:40,524 | He was as shocked as anyone | He was as shocked as anyone |
901 | 00:35:40,575 | 00:35:43,043 | By the brutal and cold-blooded nature of this murder. | By the brutal and cold-blooded nature of this murder. |
902 | 00:35:43,128 | 00:35:45,529 | - His credibility's an issue for a jury, | - His credibility's an issue for a jury, |
903 | 00:35:45,580 | 00:35:47,298 | Not a hearing on bail, | Not a hearing on bail, |
904 | 00:35:47,365 | 00:35:51,635 | Which I'll set at $3 million. | Which I'll set at $3 million. |
905 | 00:35:51,703 | 00:35:53,003 | Why break precedent? | Why break precedent? |
906 | 00:35:53,054 | 00:35:56,173 | [bangs gavel] | [bangs gavel] |
907 | 00:35:56,224 | 00:35:59,376 | - Our analysis of that video will lend us some support. | - Our analysis of that video will lend us some support. |
908 | 00:35:59,427 | 00:36:01,846 | - We also found derek fanning's gun and fingerprints | - We also found derek fanning's gun and fingerprints |
909 | 00:36:01,913 | 00:36:05,483 | On sara bradley's hard drive and in megan's apartment. | On sara bradley's hard drive and in megan's apartment. |
910 | 00:36:05,550 | 00:36:08,552 | - But the jury's still gonna be skeptical about you. | - But the jury's still gonna be skeptical about you. |
911 | 00:36:08,603 | 00:36:10,121 | We'll have to work to convince them | We'll have to work to convince them |
912 | 00:36:10,188 | 00:36:11,388 | To trust your testimony. | To trust your testimony. |
913 | 00:36:11,439 | 00:36:12,556 | - Or we could save you the effort. | - Or we could save you the effort. |
914 | 00:36:12,607 | 00:36:16,293 | Mr. Dipalma's decided not to appear. | Mr. Dipalma's decided not to appear. |
915 | 00:36:16,361 | 00:36:17,578 | - Excuse me? | - Excuse me? |
916 | 00:36:17,662 | 00:36:19,597 | - He's decided it's not in his best interest | - He's decided it's not in his best interest |
917 | 00:36:19,664 | 00:36:20,915 | To testify. | To testify. |
918 | 00:36:20,999 | 00:36:23,667 | - Well, we can still prosecute him | - Well, we can still prosecute him |
919 | 00:36:23,735 | 00:36:25,669 | For the murder instead. | For the murder instead. |
920 | 00:36:25,737 | 00:36:27,805 | - I think that ship has sailed. | - I think that ship has sailed. |
921 | 00:36:27,873 | 00:36:29,757 | Ms. Rubirosa already told a judge | Ms. Rubirosa already told a judge |
922 | 00:36:29,841 | 00:36:31,425 | That mr. Fanning is the killer. | That mr. Fanning is the killer. |
923 | 00:36:31,510 | 00:36:33,811 | It would be pretty easy to raise reasonable doubt | It would be pretty easy to raise reasonable doubt |
924 | 00:36:33,879 | 00:36:37,381 | If you try mr. Dipalma. | If you try mr. Dipalma. |
925 | 00:36:37,432 | 00:36:38,849 | - So what is it, huh? | - So what is it, huh? |
926 | 00:36:38,917 | 00:36:41,251 | You afraid that fanning'll be acquitted and come after you? | You afraid that fanning'll be acquitted and come after you? |
927 | 00:36:41,303 | 00:36:43,220 | Is he holding something else over your head? | Is he holding something else over your head? |
928 | 00:36:43,271 | 00:36:46,924 | - I just don't think that publicly swearing | - I just don't think that publicly swearing |
929 | 00:36:46,975 | 00:36:48,442 | I was involved in blackmail and murder | I was involved in blackmail and murder |
930 | 00:36:48,527 | 00:36:50,477 | Is the best possible career move. | Is the best possible career move. |
931 | 00:36:50,562 | 00:36:52,146 | Plus, I could get sued. | Plus, I could get sued. |
932 | 00:36:52,230 | 00:36:54,815 | The feds could come after me. | The feds could come after me. |
933 | 00:36:54,900 | 00:36:57,651 | I don't see any upside. | I don't see any upside. |
934 | 00:36:57,736 | 00:37:01,104 | - We can give you immunity and then subpoena you. | - We can give you immunity and then subpoena you. |
935 | 00:37:01,156 | 00:37:02,706 | If you choose not to testify, | If you choose not to testify, |
936 | 00:37:02,774 | 00:37:05,209 | We can charge you with contempt. | We can charge you with contempt. |
937 | 00:37:05,276 | 00:37:07,011 | - Contempt I can handle. | - Contempt I can handle. |
938 | 00:37:07,078 | 00:37:10,748 | - Well, don't worry. You already have ours. | - Well, don't worry. You already have ours. |
939 | 00:37:15,687 | 00:37:19,089 | - So blackmail and a brutal murder, | - So blackmail and a brutal murder, |
940 | 00:37:19,140 | 00:37:21,642 | And everybody walks. | And everybody walks. |
941 | 00:37:21,726 | 00:37:23,561 | Maybe we should go into another line of work, | Maybe we should go into another line of work, |
942 | 00:37:23,628 | 00:37:25,062 | Dry cleaning. | Dry cleaning. |
943 | 00:37:25,129 | 00:37:27,181 | - Or we could charge them together for both crimes. | - Or we could charge them together for both crimes. |
944 | 00:37:27,265 | 00:37:29,466 | - And they'll both stay silent and you'll be pushing | - And they'll both stay silent and you'll be pushing |
945 | 00:37:29,517 | 00:37:31,068 | Two rocks up two hills. | Two rocks up two hills. |
946 | 00:37:31,135 | 00:37:33,654 | What about your blackmail victim? | What about your blackmail victim? |
947 | 00:37:33,738 | 00:37:36,240 | She's still on the sidelines? | She's still on the sidelines? |
948 | 00:37:36,307 | 00:37:37,408 | - Resolutely. | - Resolutely. |
949 | 00:37:37,475 | 00:37:39,443 | There's something in those personnel files | There's something in those personnel files |
950 | 00:37:39,494 | 00:37:42,580 | She doesn't want the world or her husband to see. | She doesn't want the world or her husband to see. |
951 | 00:37:42,647 | 00:37:46,667 | This blackmail thing, it really works. | This blackmail thing, it really works. |
952 | 00:37:46,751 | 00:37:50,654 | - Maybe we should try it. | - Maybe we should try it. |
953 | 00:37:52,156 | 00:37:54,925 | - Jack, I'm sorry it had to be this way. | - Jack, I'm sorry it had to be this way. |
954 | 00:37:54,993 | 00:37:57,261 | I know you went the extra mile on my behalf. | I know you went the extra mile on my behalf. |
955 | 00:37:57,328 | 00:37:58,796 | I just couldn't let it go to trial. | I just couldn't let it go to trial. |
956 | 00:37:58,847 | 00:38:00,047 | - I know, vanessa. | - I know, vanessa. |
957 | 00:38:00,131 | 00:38:03,834 | That's what I wanted to talk to you about. | That's what I wanted to talk to you about. |
958 | 00:38:03,885 | 00:38:06,220 | - Well, this is a surprise. | - Well, this is a surprise. |
959 | 00:38:06,304 | 00:38:07,771 | What is this, some kind of shock therapy | What is this, some kind of shock therapy |
960 | 00:38:07,839 | 00:38:09,106 | To make me change my mind? | To make me change my mind? |
961 | 00:38:09,173 | 00:38:10,841 | - We'd like you to remember how you felt | - We'd like you to remember how you felt |
962 | 00:38:10,892 | 00:38:13,310 | When you got that package, when you saw him | When you got that package, when you saw him |
963 | 00:38:13,361 | 00:38:16,814 | In the park demanding $3 million. | In the park demanding $3 million. |
964 | 00:38:16,865 | 00:38:18,682 | - What are we doing here, playing a memory game? | - What are we doing here, playing a memory game? |
965 | 00:38:18,733 | 00:38:20,150 | - I remember. | - I remember. |
966 | 00:38:20,201 | 00:38:21,652 | It was awful. | It was awful. |
967 | 00:38:21,703 | 00:38:23,370 | But I can't let innocent friends get hurt | But I can't let innocent friends get hurt |
968 | 00:38:23,455 | 00:38:26,740 | By him and him in some public spectacle. | By him and him in some public spectacle. |
969 | 00:38:26,825 | 00:38:28,926 | - I understand, vanessa, so I'm sorry. | - I understand, vanessa, so I'm sorry. |
970 | 00:38:28,994 | 00:38:30,694 | - About what? | - About what? |
971 | 00:38:30,762 | 00:38:32,696 | - We're charging you with criminal sale | - We're charging you with criminal sale |
972 | 00:38:32,764 | 00:38:34,531 | Of a controlled substance in the fifth degree. | Of a controlled substance in the fifth degree. |
973 | 00:38:34,599 | 00:38:36,083 | It's a class "d" felony. | It's a class "d" felony. |
974 | 00:38:36,167 | 00:38:37,334 | - What? | - What? |
975 | 00:38:37,385 | 00:38:38,869 | - From megan kerik's diary. | - From megan kerik's diary. |
976 | 00:38:38,937 | 00:38:40,804 | "I was nervous at first, | "I was nervous at first, |
977 | 00:38:40,872 | 00:38:42,389 | "but we split one of her vicodins | "but we split one of her vicodins |
978 | 00:38:42,474 | 00:38:45,042 | And a bottle of wine and then...Bliss." | And a bottle of wine and then...Bliss." |
979 | 00:38:45,093 | 00:38:46,894 | - Half a vicodin. | - Half a vicodin. |
980 | 00:38:46,978 | 00:38:48,595 | I gave it to her. I didn't sell it. | I gave it to her. I didn't sell it. |
981 | 00:38:48,680 | 00:38:50,431 | - Doesn't matter. | - Doesn't matter. |
982 | 00:38:50,515 | 00:38:54,451 | Legally, to sell means to sell, exchange, or to give. | Legally, to sell means to sell, exchange, or to give. |
983 | 00:38:54,519 | 00:38:57,187 | The law still applies and so does the penalty. | The law still applies and so does the penalty. |
984 | 00:38:57,238 | 00:38:58,522 | - You can't possibly be serious. | - You can't possibly be serious. |
985 | 00:38:58,573 | 00:39:01,391 | - I'm sure the charge won't do you much good | - I'm sure the charge won't do you much good |
986 | 00:39:01,443 | 00:39:03,243 | In a divorce... | In a divorce... |
987 | 00:39:03,328 | 00:39:05,729 | Or a fight over child custody. | Or a fight over child custody. |
988 | 00:39:07,666 | 00:39:11,234 | - You sons of bitches. | - You sons of bitches. |
989 | 00:39:11,286 | 00:39:14,404 | You're no better than he is. | You're no better than he is. |
990 | 00:39:14,456 | 00:39:17,741 | - So... You'll testify? | - So... You'll testify? |
991 | 00:39:21,129 | 00:39:23,630 | - Sure. I can't wait. | - Sure. I can't wait. |
992 | 00:39:24,933 | 00:39:27,601 | - Wait a minute. Can she still do that? | - Wait a minute. Can she still do that? |
993 | 00:39:27,686 | 00:39:29,853 | - Yes, the case hasn't been dismissed, | - Yes, the case hasn't been dismissed, |
994 | 00:39:29,921 | 00:39:31,588 | But I don't think she ever will. | But I don't think she ever will. |
995 | 00:39:31,639 | 00:39:33,390 | That's not the plan, is it? | That's not the plan, is it? |
996 | 00:39:33,441 | 00:39:35,359 | - Well, now that we have | - Well, now that we have |
997 | 00:39:35,426 | 00:39:37,394 | Ms. Carville's cooperation, | Ms. Carville's cooperation, |
998 | 00:39:37,445 | 00:39:38,979 | Mr. Dipalma is looking at | Mr. Dipalma is looking at |
999 | 00:39:39,064 | 00:39:40,731 | Ten years in prison for blackmail. | Ten years in prison for blackmail. |
1000 | 00:39:40,782 | 00:39:42,966 | - But if he changes his mind | - But if he changes his mind |
1001 | 00:39:43,034 | 00:39:45,102 | About testifying against mr. Fanning, | About testifying against mr. Fanning, |
1002 | 00:39:45,170 | 00:39:46,270 | You might let that slide. | You might let that slide. |
1003 | 00:39:46,338 | 00:39:49,039 | - Oh, we could probably work something out. | - Oh, we could probably work something out. |
1004 | 00:39:49,107 | 00:39:51,875 | He nails fanning for the murder, | He nails fanning for the murder, |
1005 | 00:39:51,943 | 00:39:55,379 | Then takes a plea, does two years. | Then takes a plea, does two years. |
1006 | 00:39:55,446 | 00:39:57,548 | - You screwed with me to screw with him. | - You screwed with me to screw with him. |
1007 | 00:39:57,615 | 00:40:00,134 | - Bank shot. | - Bank shot. |
1008 | 00:40:00,218 | 00:40:03,637 | - You're still a son of a bitch. | - You're still a son of a bitch. |
1009 | 00:40:09,260 | 00:40:13,514 | - We have a deal? | - We have a deal? |
1010 | 00:40:16,468 | 00:40:20,604 | - Deal. | - Deal. |
1011 | 00:40:20,672 | 00:40:21,972 | - A blackmail daisy chain. | - A blackmail daisy chain. |
1012 | 00:40:22,023 | 00:40:23,607 | They definitely didn't teach that in law school. | They definitely didn't teach that in law school. |
1013 | 00:40:23,658 | 00:40:26,009 | - Turnabout. It was only fair. | - Turnabout. It was only fair. |
1014 | 00:40:26,077 | 00:40:27,194 | - So that's the new game plan. | - So that's the new game plan. |
1015 | 00:40:27,278 | 00:40:28,829 | We do what they do. | We do what they do. |
1016 | 00:40:28,913 | 00:40:31,782 | Next time we try a murderer, we'll kill somebody. | Next time we try a murderer, we'll kill somebody. |
1017 | 00:40:31,833 | 00:40:33,083 | - I don't know. | - I don't know. |
1018 | 00:40:33,151 | 00:40:34,701 | We'll have to ask the boss. | We'll have to ask the boss. |
1019 | 00:40:34,786 | 00:40:37,538 | Sync: Adriano_CSI for Addict7ed | Sync: Adriano_CSI for Addict7ed |