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1 00:00:05,283 00:00:07,117 In the criminal justice system, In the criminal justice system,
2 00:00:07,185 00:00:09,186 The people are represented by two separate The people are represented by two separate
3 00:00:09,254 00:00:10,854 Yet equally important groups-- Yet equally important groups--
4 00:00:10,922 00:00:12,790 The police who investigate crime The police who investigate crime
5 00:00:12,857 00:00:15,692 And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders.
6 00:00:15,760 00:00:18,162 These are their stories. These are their stories.
7 00:00:18,229 00:00:19,997 - Change only happens when you vote, - Change only happens when you vote,
8 00:00:20,064 00:00:21,665 But, first, you have to register. But, first, you have to register.
9 00:00:21,733 00:00:23,901 - Oh, i don't have time for this. - Oh, i don't have time for this.
10 00:00:23,968 00:00:25,803 - It doesn't matter if you have a criminal record. - It doesn't matter if you have a criminal record.
11 00:00:25,870 00:00:28,005 - What did you say? - Jim. - What did you say? - Jim.
12 00:00:30,542 00:00:32,609 On that note... - Oh, come on. It's barely 6:00. On that note... - Oh, come on. It's barely 6:00.
13 00:00:32,677 00:00:34,878 I saw some houses down by that old landfill. I saw some houses down by that old landfill.
14 00:00:34,946 00:00:36,113 - Sorry, i'm beat. - Sorry, i'm beat.
15 00:00:36,181 00:00:38,382 I'll take the ferry back into the city. I'll take the ferry back into the city.
16 00:00:38,450 00:00:40,217 - This is the problem with you, john. - This is the problem with you, john.
17 00:00:40,285 00:00:45,789 You're just not dedicated enough. You're just not dedicated enough.
18 00:00:45,857 00:00:47,024 - Street cleaner found them. - Street cleaner found them.
19 00:00:47,091 00:00:48,525 Delaware plates. Delaware plates.
20 00:00:48,593 00:00:52,229 Come back to a nicholas landy. Come back to a nicholas landy.
21 00:00:57,416 00:00:58,969 - "Fed." Somebody wanted us to know - "Fed." Somebody wanted us to know
22 00:00:59,037 00:01:02,206 This guy worked for the government. This guy worked for the government.
23 00:01:02,273 00:01:06,910 - There's white gravel in the tire treads. - There's white gravel in the tire treads.
24 00:01:06,978 00:01:08,512 That's not from around here. That's not from around here.
25 00:01:08,580 00:01:10,814 - Got a tarp here covered in blood. - Got a tarp here covered in blood.
26 00:01:12,550 00:01:15,586 Could have been used to transport the body. Could have been used to transport the body.
27 00:01:15,653 00:01:17,321 As a dump site, this hardly qualifies As a dump site, this hardly qualifies
28 00:01:17,388 00:01:19,156 As remote. As remote.
29 00:01:19,224 00:01:20,757 - Yeah, but lupes, - Yeah, but lupes,
30 00:01:20,825 00:01:23,360 Look down here. Look down here.
31 00:01:23,428 00:01:25,696 Federal reserve bank. Federal reserve bank.
32 00:01:25,763 00:01:27,264 This little scene was staged This little scene was staged
33 00:01:27,332 00:01:29,633 By somebody with a big one for uncle sam. By somebody with a big one for uncle sam.
34 00:01:36,637 00:01:41,162 Sync by ReHelen Sync by ReHelen
35 00:01:41,561 00:01:50,761 www.addic7ed.com www.addic7ed.com
36 00:02:22,223 00:02:24,680 Time of death between 7pm and 10pm last night. Time of death between 7pm and 10pm last night.
37 00:02:24,931 00:02:26,865 I found multiple contusions, I found multiple contusions,
38 00:02:26,933 00:02:28,266 Broken rib, broken jaw, Broken rib, broken jaw,
39 00:02:28,334 00:02:30,235 All inflicted within a half-Hour period. All inflicted within a half-Hour period.
40 00:02:30,303 00:02:32,337 Your basic blunt force trauma party. Your basic blunt force trauma party.
41 00:02:32,405 00:02:35,108 - These marks-- He was choked out. - These marks-- He was choked out.
42 00:02:35,374 00:02:37,542 - Yeah. Someone with big hands. - Yeah. Someone with big hands.
43 00:02:37,610 00:02:39,077 The inscription on his chest is in ink, The inscription on his chest is in ink,
44 00:02:39,145 00:02:41,746 Consistent with a black marker. Consistent with a black marker.
45 00:02:41,814 00:02:44,599 - And what is this crud in his hair? - Crud? - And what is this crud in his hair? - Crud?
46 00:02:45,017 00:02:47,266 - Crud might have been on the floor Where he was killed. - Crud might have been on the floor Where he was killed.
47 00:02:50,056 00:02:51,590 Any time you want to switch jobs, detective, Any time you want to switch jobs, detective,
48 00:02:51,657 00:02:53,091 You let me know. You let me know.
49 00:02:56,662 00:02:58,463 - The fingerprints trace back - The fingerprints trace back
50 00:02:58,531 00:03:00,232 To a james landy of delaware. To a james landy of delaware.
51 00:03:00,299 00:03:03,101 He has a disorderly conduct in milford from 2004, He has a disorderly conduct in milford from 2004,
52 00:03:03,169 00:03:04,703 The car's in his father's name, The car's in his father's name,
53 00:03:04,770 00:03:09,241 And no record he ever worked for the federal government. And no record he ever worked for the federal government.
54 00:03:10,843 00:03:13,145 - The suv's e-Zpass has it leaving staten island - The suv's e-Zpass has it leaving staten island
55 00:03:14,780 00:03:15,981 It could have been landy driving the car It could have been landy driving the car
56 00:03:16,048 00:03:17,349 Or his killer. Or his killer.
57 00:03:17,416 00:03:18,617 Can't tell from the tollbooth camera. Can't tell from the tollbooth camera.
58 00:03:18,684 00:03:21,319 - Well, he has iron oxide in his hair. - Well, he has iron oxide in his hair.
59 00:03:21,387 00:03:22,721 - That's probably from the crime scene. - That's probably from the crime scene.
60 00:03:22,788 00:03:25,123 That's a chemical used in explosives That's a chemical used in explosives
61 00:03:25,191 00:03:27,225 And cosmetics... - And a hundred other things. And cosmetics... - And a hundred other things.
62 00:03:27,293 00:03:30,128 Have you contacted mr. Landy's next of kin? Have you contacted mr. Landy's next of kin?
63 00:03:30,196 00:03:31,663 - His father's deceased as of last year. - His father's deceased as of last year.
64 00:03:31,731 00:03:33,899 Mother lives in arizona with his sister. Mother lives in arizona with his sister.
65 00:03:33,966 00:03:35,834 The local authorities are contacting them. The local authorities are contacting them.
66 00:03:35,902 00:03:37,903 - Well, we won't release his name until that's done. - Well, we won't release his name until that's done.
67 00:03:37,970 00:03:40,305 - We got his last known, in red hook. - We got his last known, in red hook.
68 00:03:40,373 00:03:43,308 - Well, get over there. One pp's talking to the fbi. - Well, get over there. One pp's talking to the fbi.
69 00:03:43,376 00:03:46,178 Landy may have worked for the government Landy may have worked for the government
70 00:03:46,245 00:03:47,679 Off the radar. Off the radar.
71 00:03:47,747 00:03:51,483 You want to help, get me some answers. You want to help, get me some answers.
72 00:03:58,357 00:04:00,425 - He had only been here a few months. - He had only been here a few months.
73 00:04:00,493 00:04:02,661 Right, eddie? Right, eddie?
74 00:04:02,728 00:04:04,329 - Did you ever see him with anybody? - Did you ever see him with anybody?
75 00:04:06,299 00:04:08,533 - Oh. Last night, there was this girl. - Oh. Last night, there was this girl.
76 00:04:08,601 00:04:10,035 A black girl. A black girl.
77 00:04:10,102 00:04:11,403 I was on my way out to get some yogurt, I was on my way out to get some yogurt,
78 00:04:11,470 00:04:14,372 And she was outside trying to buzz jim And she was outside trying to buzz jim
79 00:04:14,440 00:04:16,074 From downstairs. From downstairs.
80 00:04:16,142 00:04:18,443 - A black girl. What time was this? - A black girl. What time was this?
81 00:04:20,313 00:04:21,713 - What did she look like? - What did she look like?
82 00:04:21,781 00:04:24,349 - She was nice-Looking. - She was nice-Looking.
83 00:04:24,417 00:04:27,485 Except her right hand was balled up like this Except her right hand was balled up like this
84 00:04:27,553 00:04:28,520 In a fist. In a fist.
85 00:04:28,588 00:04:29,854 - Thanks. - Thanks.
86 00:04:31,624 00:04:33,758 - Found a laptop cord, but no laptop. - Found a laptop cord, but no laptop.
87 00:04:33,826 00:04:35,393 Otherwise, nothing out of place. Otherwise, nothing out of place.
88 00:04:35,461 00:04:36,528 - Nothing here really to steal - Nothing here really to steal
89 00:04:36,596 00:04:38,697 Unless you're a bookworm. Unless you're a bookworm.
90 00:04:38,764 00:04:42,300 Clinton's memoirs, history of the chicago seven-- Clinton's memoirs, history of the chicago seven--
91 00:04:42,368 00:04:46,204 Landy was a political junkie. Landy was a political junkie.
92 00:04:46,272 00:04:50,075 - He put his money where his mouth was. - He put his money where his mouth was.
93 00:04:50,142 00:04:51,142 Pay stub. Pay stub.
94 00:04:51,210 00:04:54,412 From the rights alliance foundation. From the rights alliance foundation.
95 00:04:54,480 00:04:56,181 Some idiot looking to whack a fed Some idiot looking to whack a fed
96 00:04:56,249 00:04:59,784 Killed a community organizer instead. Killed a community organizer instead.
97 00:05:01,921 00:05:03,488 - This is unbelievable. - This is unbelievable.
98 00:05:03,556 00:05:06,391 Jim was only with us since the fall, Jim was only with us since the fall,
99 00:05:06,459 00:05:07,926 But, in the three years i've been running this office, But, in the three years i've been running this office,
100 00:05:07,994 00:05:10,428 We've never had a person with more passion. We've never had a person with more passion.
101 00:05:10,903 00:05:12,749 He was the star of our voter registration beat. He was the star of our voter registration beat.
102 00:05:13,917 00:05:15,818 - Did you speak with him yesterday? - Did you speak with him yesterday?
103 00:05:15,885 00:05:16,952 - I didn't. - I didn't.
104 00:05:17,020 00:05:18,487 He was in the field all day. He was in the field all day.
105 00:05:18,555 00:05:20,422 Staten island, bay terrace. Staten island, bay terrace.
106 00:05:20,490 00:05:22,177 He was going door-To-Door with john munson. He was going door-To-Door with john munson.
107 00:05:22,843 00:05:24,660 - Till what time? - Late, i think. - Till what time? - Late, i think.
108 00:05:24,728 00:05:27,262 - Mrs. Owens, has the rights alliance - Mrs. Owens, has the rights alliance
109 00:05:27,180 00:05:29,114 Been receiving any threats lately? Been receiving any threats lately?
110 00:05:30,100 00:05:32,504 - Besides the usual partisan threats to cut off our funding? - Besides the usual partisan threats to cut off our funding?
111 00:05:32,504 00:05:34,164 No. Why? No. Why?
112 00:05:34,164 00:05:38,774 - Jim had this scrawled on his chest. - Jim had this scrawled on his chest.
113 00:05:39,618 00:05:40,374 - Oh, my god. - Oh, my god.
114 00:05:40,374 00:05:42,147 - Is there a reason why anyone would think - Is there a reason why anyone would think
115 00:05:42,147 00:05:43,549 He worked for the federal government? He worked for the federal government?
116 00:05:43,549 00:05:45,986 - I can't even imagine how. - I can't even imagine how.
117 00:05:46,053 00:05:47,726 We tell all our employees to identify themselves upfront We tell all our employees to identify themselves upfront
118 00:05:47,726 00:05:48,825 As being from a non-Profit. As being from a non-Profit.
119 00:05:50,058 00:05:51,062 This is bad. This is bad.
120 00:05:51,459 00:05:53,460 - Well, for the time being, tell your people - Well, for the time being, tell your people
121 00:05:53,527 00:05:54,748 To be careful, work in pairs, To be careful, work in pairs,
122 00:05:54,748 00:05:56,660 And only during daylight hours. Okay? And only during daylight hours. Okay?
123 00:05:57,351 00:05:58,568 We'll be in touch. We'll be in touch.
124 00:05:58,568 00:05:59,619 Thanks. Thanks.
125 00:06:00,864 00:06:02,031 - I can't believe it. - I can't believe it.
126 00:06:02,099 00:06:04,333 I should never have let him go off on his own. I should never have let him go off on his own.
127 00:06:04,401 00:06:06,903 - Go off on his own where, mr. Munson? - Go off on his own where, mr. Munson?
128 00:06:06,970 00:06:08,504 - Down by richmond valley. - Down by richmond valley.
129 00:06:08,572 00:06:11,374 If there was even one unregistered citizen out there, If there was even one unregistered citizen out there,
130 00:06:11,441 00:06:12,909 Jim was up for the hunt. Jim was up for the hunt.
131 00:06:12,976 00:06:14,577 - We hear he was passionate. - We hear he was passionate.
132 00:06:14,645 00:06:16,445 How did that go over with the citizens? How did that go over with the citizens?
133 00:06:16,513 00:06:18,381 - He could be pretty agro, yeah. - He could be pretty agro, yeah.
134 00:06:18,448 00:06:20,950 He said he learned the hard sell as a student volunteer He said he learned the hard sell as a student volunteer
135 00:06:21,018 00:06:22,885 For the obama campaign. For the obama campaign.
136 00:06:22,953 00:06:24,453 Are we, like, targets now? Are we, like, targets now?
137 00:06:24,521 00:06:26,756 Should we be carrying pepper spray or something? Should we be carrying pepper spray or something?
138 00:06:26,823 00:06:29,191 - My guess, you're pretty safe here. - My guess, you're pretty safe here.
139 00:06:29,259 00:06:32,094 Just mind the jack russells. Just mind the jack russells.
140 00:06:32,162 00:06:33,129 - He came by yesterday. - He came by yesterday.
141 00:06:34,464 00:06:35,932 Told him i don't vote. Told him i don't vote.
142 00:06:35,999 00:06:37,800 Only group i support is my food co-Op. Only group i support is my food co-Op.
143 00:06:37,868 00:06:40,069 - And e.L.F. The eco-Terrorists. - And e.L.F. The eco-Terrorists.
144 00:06:40,137 00:06:41,437 You have their sticker on your car. You have their sticker on your car.
145 00:06:41,505 00:06:45,826 - Oh, that's been there five years. I put a few nails into trees, - Oh, that's been there five years. I put a few nails into trees,
146 00:06:46,143 00:06:48,878 But when they started blowing up boats, they lost me. But when they started blowing up boats, they lost me.
147 00:06:48,946 00:06:51,447 - We heard that mr. Landy wasn't the type to give up - We heard that mr. Landy wasn't the type to give up
148 00:06:51,515 00:06:52,782 On an unregistered voter. On an unregistered voter.
149 00:06:52,849 00:06:55,551 - Look, i gave him an organic apple, - Look, i gave him an organic apple,
150 00:06:55,619 00:06:56,719 And he went away. And he went away.
151 00:06:56,787 00:06:58,321 Okay? - This white gravel? Okay? - This white gravel?
152 00:06:58,388 00:07:00,656 You know where it comes from? You know where it comes from?
153 00:07:00,724 00:07:02,224 - Yeah, jerry ganz. - Yeah, jerry ganz.
154 00:07:02,292 00:07:05,394 Down the street. He just put in a new driveway. Down the street. He just put in a new driveway.
155 00:07:05,462 00:07:07,296 He'll love hearing from you two. He'll love hearing from you two.
156 00:07:10,300 00:07:11,767 - You're trespassing. - You're trespassing.
157 00:07:11,835 00:07:13,302 - We'll be out of your hair in a minute. - We'll be out of your hair in a minute.
158 00:07:13,370 00:07:14,906 Did you talk to this guy yesterday? Did you talk to this guy yesterday?
159 00:07:14,906 00:07:16,381 - No. - Weird. - No. - Weird.
160 00:07:16,381 00:07:18,705 Because he hit the four houses on this side of the street Because he hit the four houses on this side of the street
161 00:07:18,983 00:07:20,784 Right before yours. - Get it straight. Right before yours. - Get it straight.
162 00:07:20,852 00:07:23,620 I don't have to submit to interrogations by big brother. I don't have to submit to interrogations by big brother.
163 00:07:24,756 00:07:26,960 Mr. Ganz, this man turned up dead Mr. Ganz, this man turned up dead
164 00:07:27,291 00:07:29,059 Shortly after paying you a visit. Shortly after paying you a visit.
165 00:07:29,127 00:07:30,427 Two minutes, and we'll be out of here. Two minutes, and we'll be out of here.
166 00:07:30,495 00:07:32,763 - You've got five seconds to get off my property. - You've got five seconds to get off my property.
167 00:07:35,833 00:07:37,334 That rat poison? That rat poison?
168 00:07:37,402 00:07:38,969 - Yeah. - Yeah.
169 00:07:39,036 00:07:40,137 - You could kill a lot of people with that. - You could kill a lot of people with that.
170 00:07:40,204 00:07:41,271 In the hands of an anti-Government activist, In the hands of an anti-Government activist,
171 00:07:41,339 00:07:43,607 Possession of that amount of toxin Possession of that amount of toxin
172 00:07:43,674 00:07:44,641 Falls under the terrorism laws. Falls under the terrorism laws.
173 00:07:44,709 00:07:46,176 - Who do you think you are? - Who do you think you are?
174 00:07:46,244 00:07:48,779 - Big brother. And you're under arrest. - Big brother. And you're under arrest.
175 00:07:51,349 00:07:53,717 Your problems with authority goes back a ways. Your problems with authority goes back a ways.
176 00:07:53,785 00:07:56,620 In '99, you assaulted an e.P.A. Inspector In '99, you assaulted an e.P.A. Inspector
177 00:07:56,687 00:07:58,822 Who was trying to run a groundwater test Who was trying to run a groundwater test
178 00:07:58,890 00:07:59,956 On your property. On your property.
179 00:08:00,024 00:08:01,658 - He was trespassing, same as you. - He was trespassing, same as you.
180 00:08:01,726 00:08:03,326 - Just give us an alibi, - Just give us an alibi,
181 00:08:03,394 00:08:05,929 And you can get back to the fortress of solitude. And you can get back to the fortress of solitude.
182 00:08:05,997 00:08:07,831 - I don't answer to a couple of obama bots. - I don't answer to a couple of obama bots.
183 00:08:07,899 00:08:10,801 - Obama bots? - Obama bots?
184 00:08:10,868 00:08:12,469 - Hold on. - Hold on.
185 00:08:14,138 00:08:16,940 It's a message from the boss. It's a message from the boss.
186 00:08:17,008 00:08:20,210 After we book you for possession of a chemical weapon, After we book you for possession of a chemical weapon,
187 00:08:20,278 00:08:22,345 We'll get a warrant and go through all your personals. We'll get a warrant and go through all your personals.
188 00:08:24,582 00:08:26,283 - I spoke to the guy, okay? - I spoke to the guy, okay?
189 00:08:26,350 00:08:28,785 I told him voting is an endorsement I told him voting is an endorsement
190 00:08:28,853 00:08:31,087 Of the system that violates our freedom. Of the system that violates our freedom.
191 00:08:31,155 00:08:34,324 - And what did mr. Landy have to say to that? - And what did mr. Landy have to say to that?
192 00:08:34,392 00:08:35,959 - Started arguing with me. - Started arguing with me.
193 00:08:36,027 00:08:39,362 Usual liberal claptrap. Usual liberal claptrap.
194 00:08:39,430 00:08:40,697 Then he dropped his bag. Then he dropped his bag.
195 00:08:40,765 00:08:42,899 His video camera tumbles out. His video camera tumbles out.
196 00:08:42,967 00:08:44,468 Red light was on. Red light was on.
197 00:08:44,535 00:08:45,535 - He was videotaping you. - He was videotaping you.
198 00:08:45,603 00:08:46,837 - Said i was getting my gun. - Said i was getting my gun.
199 00:08:46,904 00:08:48,238 He grabbed his stuff and beat it. He grabbed his stuff and beat it.
200 00:08:48,306 00:08:51,274 - And then what did you do? - And then what did you do?
201 00:08:51,342 00:08:52,576 - I made dinner for my wife. - I made dinner for my wife.
202 00:08:52,643 00:08:54,211 Now can i go? Now can i go?
203 00:08:54,278 00:08:57,948 - Uhh. No. - Uhh. No.
204 00:08:58,015 00:09:01,051 - So landy was making secret videos. - So landy was making secret videos.
205 00:09:01,118 00:09:02,853 - Of the wrong people. - Of the wrong people.
206 00:09:02,920 00:09:05,889 Mr. Ganz is a member of patriot rangers, Mr. Ganz is a member of patriot rangers,
207 00:09:05,957 00:09:07,324 A libertarian group A libertarian group
208 00:09:07,391 00:09:09,359 Active in those tea parties last summer. Active in those tea parties last summer.
209 00:09:09,427 00:09:11,261 - Do we know if landy actually owned a camera? - Do we know if landy actually owned a camera?
210 00:09:11,329 00:09:13,163 - Yeah, we found a manual for one in his place, - Yeah, we found a manual for one in his place,
211 00:09:13,231 00:09:15,232 But no camera. But no camera.
212 00:09:15,299 00:09:17,167 - What do you want us to do with mr. Ganz? - What do you want us to do with mr. Ganz?
213 00:09:17,235 00:09:18,468 - Kick him back to staten island. - Kick him back to staten island.
214 00:09:18,536 00:09:20,904 Let them hold him for the terrorism charge. Let them hold him for the terrorism charge.
215 00:09:20,972 00:09:23,440 As for mr. Landy, see if the rights alliance As for mr. Landy, see if the rights alliance
216 00:09:23,508 00:09:26,710 Knows he was moonlighting as michael moore. Knows he was moonlighting as michael moore.
217 00:09:29,747 00:09:30,914 - Thanks. - Thanks.
218 00:09:30,982 00:09:32,652 - Courtney owens, at the rights alliance, - Courtney owens, at the rights alliance,
219 00:09:32,652 00:09:35,318 She said she didn't know about landy's videotaping. She said she didn't know about landy's videotaping.
220 00:09:35,386 00:09:36,486 But check this out. But check this out.
221 00:09:36,554 00:09:38,168 I had the milford, delaware police I had the milford, delaware police
222 00:09:38,443 00:09:41,512 Fax over his disorderly conduct arrest report from 2004. Fax over his disorderly conduct arrest report from 2004.
223 00:09:41,579 00:09:42,780 - This doesn't make any sense. - This doesn't make any sense.
224 00:09:42,847 00:09:44,148 - Yeah, that's what i thought. - Yeah, that's what i thought.
225 00:09:44,215 00:09:45,883 - I want everyone outside. - I want everyone outside.
226 00:09:45,950 00:09:46,884 Grab your vests. Grab your vests.
227 00:09:46,951 00:09:48,185 We got a situation. We got a situation.
228 00:09:48,253 00:09:49,853 - Lieutenant, we have something on landy. - Lieutenant, we have something on landy.
229 00:09:49,921 00:09:52,356 - Later. You come with me. - Later. You come with me.
230 00:09:52,424 00:09:54,558 All: free jerry! Free jerry! All: free jerry! Free jerry!
231 00:09:54,626 00:09:59,030 Free jerry! Free jerry! Free jerry! Free jerry! Free jerry! Free jerry! Free jerry! Free jerry!
232 00:09:59,130 00:10:01,101 - Looks like jerry's kids brought their pop guns. - Looks like jerry's kids brought their pop guns.
233 00:10:01,101 00:10:04,134 - What do you want us to do, arrest them? - What do you want us to do, arrest them?
234 00:10:04,202 00:10:07,538 - This prisoner is being transported - This prisoner is being transported
235 00:10:07,605 00:10:09,039 To staten island. To staten island.
236 00:10:09,107 00:10:12,142 Anyone who interferes will be arrested. Anyone who interferes will be arrested.
237 00:10:12,210 00:10:15,212 Anyone who so much as reaches for a weapon Anyone who so much as reaches for a weapon
238 00:10:15,280 00:10:16,947 Is a dead man. Is a dead man.
239 00:10:27,492 00:10:30,427 Now, for those of you carrying a weapon, Now, for those of you carrying a weapon,
240 00:10:30,495 00:10:36,100 You are in violation of administrative code 10-303. You are in violation of administrative code 10-303.
241 00:10:36,167 00:10:38,769 You got 30 seconds to get them back You got 30 seconds to get them back
242 00:10:38,837 00:10:41,572 In their carrying cases and into your vehicles In their carrying cases and into your vehicles
243 00:10:41,639 00:10:45,676 Or you will be booked for reckless endangerment. Or you will be booked for reckless endangerment.
244 00:10:51,015 00:10:55,686 Now, what was that about mr. Landy? Now, what was that about mr. Landy?
245 00:10:55,754 00:10:57,855 - He was arrested in 2004 for picketing - He was arrested in 2004 for picketing
246 00:10:57,922 00:11:00,791 Outside a poverty law clinic in delaware. Outside a poverty law clinic in delaware.
247 00:11:00,859 00:11:03,293 The arresting report says he was co-Chairman The arresting report says he was co-Chairman
248 00:11:03,361 00:11:05,229 Of his campus bush reelection committee. Of his campus bush reelection committee.
249 00:11:05,296 00:11:07,364 - From militant conservative - From militant conservative
250 00:11:07,432 00:11:09,066 To bleeding heart community organizer. To bleeding heart community organizer.
251 00:11:09,134 00:11:10,334 Sounds like a stretch. Sounds like a stretch.
252 00:11:10,402 00:11:13,937 - Well, if we figure out which one he really was, - Well, if we figure out which one he really was,
253 00:11:14,005 00:11:17,007 It might tell us who killed him. It might tell us who killed him.
254 00:11:23,149 00:11:24,149 He was a great guy. He was a great guy.
255 00:11:24,217 00:11:25,517 - When was the last time you saw him? - When was the last time you saw him?
256 00:11:25,585 00:11:27,052 - A couple of weeks ago. - A couple of weeks ago.
257 00:11:27,120 00:11:29,129 He told me to come over any time. He told me to come over any time.
258 00:11:29,659 00:11:30,583 He kept a key in the stairwell, He kept a key in the stairwell,
259 00:11:30,651 00:11:34,419 Said i could let myself in. Jimmy was a--Was a real bro. Said i could let myself in. Jimmy was a--Was a real bro.
260 00:11:34,722 00:11:38,789 - Key in the stairwell. What about his politics? - Key in the stairwell. What about his politics?
261 00:11:38,824 00:11:41,361 We hear he was active on campus. We hear he was active on campus.
262 00:11:41,428 00:11:43,262 - He was conservative. - He was conservative.
263 00:11:43,330 00:11:45,331 He had fox on 24/7. He had fox on 24/7.
264 00:11:45,399 00:11:48,101 - Any chance he'd mellowed since college? - Any chance he'd mellowed since college?
265 00:11:48,168 00:11:49,669 - No. He hated liberals. - No. He hated liberals.
266 00:11:49,737 00:11:51,704 Once, he got the student paper Once, he got the student paper
267 00:11:51,772 00:11:54,007 To interview this iraq war vet-Turned-Peacenik. To interview this iraq war vet-Turned-Peacenik.
268 00:11:54,074 00:11:55,508 The editor ran it. The editor ran it.
269 00:11:55,576 00:11:57,176 It comes back, the vet's just a bum It comes back, the vet's just a bum
270 00:11:57,244 00:11:59,545 Jimmy paid off. Jimmy paid off.
271 00:11:59,613 00:12:00,913 To punk the paper. To punk the paper.
272 00:12:00,981 00:12:02,548 They had to run an apology. They had to run an apology.
273 00:12:02,616 00:12:04,684 Would it surprise you to learn he was working Would it surprise you to learn he was working
274 00:12:04,752 00:12:05,685 For the rights alliance? For the rights alliance?
275 00:12:05,753 00:12:06,853 - Are you kidding? - Are you kidding?
276 00:12:06,920 00:12:09,122 Jimmy thought they were a bunch of socialists. Jimmy thought they were a bunch of socialists.
277 00:12:09,189 00:12:11,924 - He say anything about punking them? - He say anything about punking them?
278 00:12:11,992 00:12:16,687 - No. But he did say he was working on something. - No. But he did say he was working on something.
279 00:12:17,164 00:12:19,732 He wouldn't tell me what. He wouldn't tell me what.
280 00:12:19,800 00:12:21,234 - Thanks. - Thanks.
281 00:12:21,301 00:12:23,236 - So say landy was shooting some secret video - So say landy was shooting some secret video
282 00:12:23,303 00:12:24,704 To make the rights alliance look bad. To make the rights alliance look bad.
283 00:12:24,772 00:12:27,040 He's killed, his camera goes missing. He's killed, his camera goes missing.
284 00:12:27,107 00:12:28,875 - Plus, his apartment is cleaned out. - Plus, his apartment is cleaned out.
285 00:12:28,942 00:12:31,377 There are no flash cards, no videos, no laptop. There are no flash cards, no videos, no laptop.
286 00:12:31,445 00:12:33,680 - And we have the girl who was let in - And we have the girl who was let in
287 00:12:33,747 00:12:34,681 To landy's building. To landy's building.
288 00:12:34,748 00:12:36,282 If she knew where he stashed a key, If she knew where he stashed a key,
289 00:12:36,350 00:12:38,217 She might have taken all that material. She might have taken all that material.
290 00:12:38,285 00:12:40,547 - Landy was worked over for an half-Hour-- - Landy was worked over for an half-Hour--
291 00:12:40,547 00:12:42,889 Maybe to find out where he kept his videos, Maybe to find out where he kept his videos,
292 00:12:42,956 00:12:44,490 How to gain access to his place. How to gain access to his place.
293 00:12:44,558 00:12:45,925 - Well, if he was punking the rights alliance, - Well, if he was punking the rights alliance,
294 00:12:45,993 00:12:49,095 I'm guessing the girl and the killer worked for them. I'm guessing the girl and the killer worked for them.
295 00:12:49,163 00:12:50,263 Here. Here.
296 00:12:50,330 00:12:51,631 The night landy was killed, The night landy was killed,
297 00:12:51,699 00:12:54,100 He got two calls from the rights alliance office. He got two calls from the rights alliance office.
298 00:12:54,168 00:12:56,636 The second one at 7:16. The second one at 7:16.
299 00:12:56,704 00:12:59,272 - Odds are whoever called from the rights alliance - Odds are whoever called from the rights alliance
300 00:12:59,339 00:13:01,808 Knows something about this. Knows something about this.
301 00:13:01,875 00:13:02,909 - Those calls were probably - Those calls were probably
302 00:13:02,976 00:13:03,943 About the next day's assignments. About the next day's assignments.
303 00:13:04,011 00:13:05,278 - And who's in charge of that? - And who's in charge of that?
304 00:13:05,345 00:13:06,345 - Whoever's around. - Whoever's around.
305 00:13:09,149 00:13:10,783 - Lupes. - Lupes.
306 00:13:10,851 00:13:12,852 - Excuse me. - Excuse me.
307 00:13:12,920 00:13:15,822 - A brace for carpal tunnel syndrome. - A brace for carpal tunnel syndrome.
308 00:13:15,889 00:13:18,224 The lady who let the girl up to landy's place The lady who let the girl up to landy's place
309 00:13:18,292 00:13:20,993 Said she had her hand balled up. Said she had her hand balled up.
310 00:13:21,061 00:13:22,195 Who sits here? Who sits here?
311 00:13:22,262 00:13:24,297 - Courtney's assistant marissa. - Courtney's assistant marissa.
312 00:13:24,364 00:13:26,099 She's in the break room. She's in the break room.
313 00:13:26,166 00:13:27,467 - Sure, i was at his building that night. - Sure, i was at his building that night.
314 00:13:27,534 00:13:28,735 That lady let me in. That lady let me in.
315 00:13:28,802 00:13:30,336 I knocked on his door, but he didn't answer. I knocked on his door, but he didn't answer.
316 00:13:30,404 00:13:31,738 - Why were you there? - Why were you there?
317 00:13:34,041 00:13:36,876 - Um, courtney had me stop by on my way home - Um, courtney had me stop by on my way home
318 00:13:36,944 00:13:40,012 Because jim forgot to turn in his registration forms. Because jim forgot to turn in his registration forms.
319 00:13:40,080 00:13:44,984 I'm sorry. Oh, i'm really freaked out about this. I'm sorry. Oh, i'm really freaked out about this.
320 00:13:45,052 00:13:46,319 - We understand, marissa. - We understand, marissa.
321 00:13:46,386 00:13:50,189 So you never made it into his apartment. So you never made it into his apartment.
322 00:13:50,257 00:13:51,624 - No, no, i said i knocked on his door, - No, no, i said i knocked on his door,
323 00:13:51,692 00:13:53,025 And he wasn't there. And he wasn't there.
324 00:13:53,093 00:13:54,293 - Did you talk to him that night? - Did you talk to him that night?
325 00:13:54,361 00:13:55,561 - No. - No.
326 00:13:55,629 00:13:57,697 - Did he talk to you about his politics? - Did he talk to you about his politics?
327 00:13:57,765 00:14:00,566 - His politics were progressive, same as everybody here. - His politics were progressive, same as everybody here.
328 00:14:00,634 00:14:03,402 - Did he tell you he worked for the bush reelection campaign - Did he tell you he worked for the bush reelection campaign
329 00:14:03,470 00:14:05,304 In '04? In '04?
330 00:14:06,807 00:14:09,242 - Really? - Really?
331 00:14:10,863 00:14:13,728 Well, people can change their minds, right? Well, people can change their minds, right?
332 00:14:15,214 00:14:18,068 Anyway, i mostly just answer courtney's phones, Anyway, i mostly just answer courtney's phones,
333 00:14:18,068 00:14:19,647 So i didn't have much contact with him. So i didn't have much contact with him.
334 00:14:20,676 00:14:22,944 Um, it's courtney. Um, it's courtney.
335 00:14:23,012 00:14:27,315 My break is over. My break is over.
336 00:14:35,157 00:14:37,125 - Of course, chief. - Of course, chief.
337 00:14:37,192 00:14:40,161 As soon as anything breaks, i'll call you. As soon as anything breaks, i'll call you.
338 00:14:41,830 00:14:43,765 You know, i'm running out of ways to tell You know, i'm running out of ways to tell
339 00:14:43,832 00:14:46,534 The chief of ds we don't know squat. The chief of ds we don't know squat.
340 00:14:46,602 00:14:48,867 Tell me you got something on this girl marissa. Tell me you got something on this girl marissa.
341 00:14:48,867 00:14:50,611 - Her prints weren't in landy's place, - Her prints weren't in landy's place,
342 00:14:50,611 00:14:53,057 But the key landy left in the stairwell is missing, But the key landy left in the stairwell is missing,
343 00:14:53,057 00:14:54,171 So we can't rule her out either. So we can't rule her out either.
344 00:14:54,171 00:14:56,577 - Yeah, her phone activity is hinky. - Yeah, her phone activity is hinky.
345 00:14:56,645 00:14:58,880 She got a call from a rights alliance cell She got a call from a rights alliance cell
346 00:14:58,947 00:15:01,297 At 9:40, just before she went up to landy's place. At 9:40, just before she went up to landy's place.
347 00:15:01,716 00:15:02,091 - From who? - From who?
348 00:15:02,091 00:15:04,308 - We don't know, but if you look here, - We don't know, but if you look here,
349 00:15:04,616 00:15:07,085 You will see who marissa called the next morning. You will see who marissa called the next morning.
350 00:15:07,152 00:15:08,720 - Red hook video services. - Red hook video services.
351 00:15:08,787 00:15:10,121 - We found a couple charges from them - We found a couple charges from them
352 00:15:10,189 00:15:12,990 On landy's visa. On landy's visa.
353 00:15:13,058 00:15:16,661 - Van buren. - Van buren.
354 00:15:16,729 00:15:20,031 Oh. What a surprise. Oh. What a surprise.
355 00:15:20,099 00:15:21,599 Ho--Hold on. Ho--Hold on.
356 00:15:21,667 00:15:23,601 The video place, right? The video place, right?
357 00:15:23,669 00:15:25,937 So how have you been? So how have you been?
358 00:15:26,004 00:15:29,941 Are you in town? Are you in town?
359 00:15:30,008 00:15:33,578 Oh, no. Oh, no.
360 00:15:33,645 00:15:36,681 Oh, i'm so sorry. Oh, i'm so sorry.
361 00:15:36,749 00:15:39,450 This friday? This friday?
362 00:15:39,518 00:15:43,821 Uh, you know, i don't know if i can get away. Uh, you know, i don't know if i can get away.
363 00:15:43,889 00:15:48,459 But give me the address. But give me the address.
364 00:15:48,527 00:15:50,795 No, no, no, i want to be there. No, no, no, i want to be there.
365 00:15:50,863 00:15:54,966 It's just that, um, well, there's-- It's just that, um, well, there's--
366 00:15:55,033 00:15:58,069 There's been a lot going on. There's been a lot going on.
367 00:15:58,137 00:16:02,793 No, i will. I will. You too. No, i will. I will. You too.
368 00:16:04,276 00:16:10,209 And, again, i'm so sorry. All right. Bye-Bye. And, again, i'm so sorry. All right. Bye-Bye.
369 00:16:30,436 00:16:32,170 - Um, two flash cards, - Um, two flash cards,
370 00:16:32,237 00:16:34,172 Eight gigs each, dropped off by a jim landy. Eight gigs each, dropped off by a jim landy.
371 00:16:34,239 00:16:36,007 He wanted us to enhance the audio. He wanted us to enhance the audio.
372 00:16:36,074 00:16:37,642 Um, the girl said she worked for him. Um, the girl said she worked for him.
373 00:16:37,709 00:16:39,844 She wanted to send someone by to pick it up. She wanted to send someone by to pick it up.
374 00:16:39,912 00:16:43,214 - Did someone come by? - Roberto? - Did someone come by? - Roberto?
375 00:16:43,282 00:16:45,116 A big, hispanic guy. Paid cash. A big, hispanic guy. Paid cash.
376 00:16:45,184 00:16:46,217 - When he was in here, - When he was in here,
377 00:16:46,285 00:16:47,418 Did he touch anything? Did he touch anything?
378 00:16:47,486 00:16:49,086 - He was leaning on the counter right there. - He was leaning on the counter right there.
379 00:16:49,154 00:16:52,924 - All right, we'll send somebody down here to dust for prints. - All right, we'll send somebody down here to dust for prints.
380 00:16:52,991 00:16:55,026 - Do you know what was on the video? - Do you know what was on the video?
381 00:16:55,093 00:16:56,394 - People in an office talking. - People in an office talking.
382 00:16:56,462 00:16:58,029 It looked like candid camera stuff. It looked like candid camera stuff.
383 00:16:58,096 00:16:59,597 - You transferred it to your equipment - You transferred it to your equipment
384 00:16:59,665 00:17:01,599 To work on the audio, right? To work on the audio, right?
385 00:17:01,667 00:17:03,334 - Those files'll still be on there, yeah? - Those files'll still be on there, yeah?
386 00:17:03,402 00:17:05,436 - Yep. - Yep.
387 00:17:05,504 00:17:08,039 - Did you know there are 13 pasta plate franchises - Did you know there are 13 pasta plate franchises
388 00:17:08,106 00:17:09,040 In lower manhattan? In lower manhattan?
389 00:17:09,107 00:17:10,975 Every franchisee is a white male. Every franchisee is a white male.
390 00:17:11,043 00:17:12,543 - It's not exactly representative - It's not exactly representative
391 00:17:12,611 00:17:14,278 Of the surrounding community. Of the surrounding community.
392 00:17:14,346 00:17:16,347 - If pasta plate isn't being a good corporate citizen, - If pasta plate isn't being a good corporate citizen,
393 00:17:16,415 00:17:17,548 Maybe they need a push. Maybe they need a push.
394 00:17:17,616 00:17:19,383 What if somebody found something in the lasagna What if somebody found something in the lasagna
395 00:17:19,451 00:17:21,419 That shouldn't be there. - Like what? That shouldn't be there. - Like what?
396 00:17:21,487 00:17:22,520 - How about a condom? - How about a condom?
397 00:17:22,588 00:17:24,522 - That would be hysterical. - That would be hysterical.
398 00:17:24,590 00:17:25,990 - If the rights alliance makes a big stink, - If the rights alliance makes a big stink,
399 00:17:26,058 00:17:27,859 Pasta plate will do anything to shut us up. Pasta plate will do anything to shut us up.
400 00:17:27,926 00:17:30,061 - Hmm, we can make 'em give - Hmm, we can make 'em give
401 00:17:30,128 00:17:35,299 Three franchises to people we choose. Three franchises to people we choose.
402 00:17:35,367 00:17:37,969 - Landy was talking them into committing extortion. - Landy was talking them into committing extortion.
403 00:17:38,036 00:17:39,403 That's how he was going to punk the rights alliance. That's how he was going to punk the rights alliance.
404 00:17:39,471 00:17:40,886 - If this video gets out, - If this video gets out,
405 00:17:40,886 00:17:42,507 Marissa here's out of a job Marissa here's out of a job
406 00:17:42,574 00:17:44,308 And in some legal trouble. And in some legal trouble.
407 00:17:44,376 00:17:46,077 - And if she found out he was taping her, - And if she found out he was taping her,
408 00:17:46,144 00:17:47,311 She'd want to shut him down She'd want to shut him down
409 00:17:47,379 00:17:49,863 To get this video. - Mm-Hmm. She had help. To get this video. - Mm-Hmm. She had help.
410 00:17:50,182 00:17:51,582 We found prints at the video place We found prints at the video place
411 00:17:51,650 00:17:54,752 Belonging to another rights alliance employee-- Belonging to another rights alliance employee--
412 00:17:54,820 00:17:55,920 Arturo ramirez. Arturo ramirez.
413 00:17:55,988 00:17:58,356 He was arrested a few times He was arrested a few times
414 00:17:58,423 00:18:02,093 At rights alliance pickets for trespassing and assault. At rights alliance pickets for trespassing and assault.
415 00:18:02,160 00:18:04,061 Prime candidate for killing landy. Prime candidate for killing landy.
416 00:18:04,129 00:18:07,765 - You know, the material they found in landy's hair-- - You know, the material they found in landy's hair--
417 00:18:07,833 00:18:09,467 - Iron oxide. - Iron oxide.
418 00:18:09,535 00:18:10,902 - It's used as pigment in paint. - It's used as pigment in paint.
419 00:18:10,969 00:18:11,903 And look at this. And look at this.
420 00:18:11,970 00:18:13,938 This address on staten island This address on staten island
421 00:18:14,006 00:18:16,574 Where ramirez was arrested for unlawful assembly Where ramirez was arrested for unlawful assembly
422 00:18:16,642 00:18:18,109 Six months ago-- Six months ago--
423 00:18:18,176 00:18:22,947 Now there used to be a big paint factory there. Now there used to be a big paint factory there.
424 00:18:23,015 00:18:24,715 - Wetherbee's. - Wetherbee's.
425 00:18:24,783 00:18:28,786 - It went bust last spring. - It went bust last spring.
426 00:18:30,956 00:18:31,889 Lupes! Lupes!
427 00:18:31,957 00:18:33,057 Got some dried blood back here. Got some dried blood back here.
428 00:18:33,057 00:18:36,193 - These look like drag marks. - These look like drag marks.
429 00:18:36,261 00:18:37,295 Footprints here. Footprints here.
430 00:18:37,362 00:18:38,763 - They look bigger than mine, - They look bigger than mine,
431 00:18:38,830 00:18:40,097 And i wear an 11. And i wear an 11.
432 00:18:40,165 00:18:41,832 Whoever dragged this body out Whoever dragged this body out
433 00:18:41,900 00:18:43,668 Has some serious boats. Has some serious boats.
434 00:18:43,735 00:18:46,137 - We're gonna need these signs at the picket location - We're gonna need these signs at the picket location
435 00:18:46,204 00:18:49,206 By tomorrow at 7:00 a.M. Sharp. By tomorrow at 7:00 a.M. Sharp.
436 00:18:49,274 00:18:51,876 - Arturo ramirez. - Arturo ramirez.
437 00:18:51,944 00:18:53,144 - Who's asking? - Who's asking?
438 00:18:53,211 00:18:54,745 - Nypd. - Nypd.
439 00:18:54,813 00:18:56,647 You're under arrest for murder. You're under arrest for murder.
440 00:18:56,715 00:18:59,517 You know the drill. You know the drill.
441 00:19:01,753 00:19:03,654 - Marissa rumstead, you're under arrest for murder. - Marissa rumstead, you're under arrest for murder.
442 00:19:03,722 00:19:05,890 Stand up. - Oh, my god. Stand up. - Oh, my god.
443 00:19:05,958 00:19:08,326 - This is a mistake. Marissa, don't worry. - This is a mistake. Marissa, don't worry.
444 00:19:08,393 00:19:09,694 We'll get davis webb involved. We'll get davis webb involved.
445 00:19:09,761 00:19:11,696 - Mrs. Owens, step back, please. - Mrs. Owens, step back, please.
446 00:19:11,763 00:19:13,464 - You think we don't know what this is about? - You think we don't know what this is about?
447 00:19:13,532 00:19:15,700 We've protested police brutality. We've protested police brutality.
448 00:19:15,767 00:19:17,168 This is the nypd's revenge. This is the nypd's revenge.
449 00:19:17,235 00:19:18,402 It's a frame job. It's a frame job.
450 00:19:18,470 00:19:20,071 No justice, no peace. No justice, no peace.
451 00:19:20,138 00:19:23,140 - Great. Now everybody hates us. - No justice, no peace. - Great. Now everybody hates us. - No justice, no peace.
452 00:19:23,208 00:19:25,142 No justice, no peace. No justice, no peace. No justice, no peace. No justice, no peace.
453 00:19:29,886 00:19:31,219 - The rights alliance makes a big stink, - The rights alliance makes a big stink,
454 00:19:31,219 00:19:32,963 Pasta plate will do anything to shut us up. Pasta plate will do anything to shut us up.
455 00:19:33,606 00:19:36,357 - Hmm, we can make 'em give three franchises - Hmm, we can make 'em give three franchises
456 00:19:36,448 00:19:37,148 To people we choose. To people we choose.
457 00:19:39,187 00:19:41,009 - I'm just as horrified as you are, jack, - I'm just as horrified as you are, jack,
458 00:19:41,009 00:19:42,691 But this is not a motive for murder. But this is not a motive for murder.
459 00:19:42,955 00:19:45,724 - Davis, she's on tape hatching a blackmail scheme - Davis, she's on tape hatching a blackmail scheme
460 00:19:45,791 00:19:46,925 That could land her in jail. That could land her in jail.
461 00:19:46,993 00:19:48,159 That's motive enough. That's motive enough.
462 00:19:48,227 00:19:50,195 - You can't take that video at face value. - You can't take that video at face value.
463 00:19:50,263 00:19:51,830 It's just kids messing around, It's just kids messing around,
464 00:19:51,898 00:19:52,964 Blowing off steam. Blowing off steam.
465 00:19:53,032 00:19:54,361 - No matter. They're fired. - No matter. They're fired.
466 00:19:54,361 00:19:55,467 We'll issue new guidelines, We'll issue new guidelines,
467 00:19:55,534 00:19:57,035 New training procedures. New training procedures.
468 00:19:57,103 00:19:58,937 - Davis, i appreciate your coming in - Davis, i appreciate your coming in
469 00:19:59,005 00:20:00,605 To defend your organization. To defend your organization.
470 00:20:00,673 00:20:02,641 - It's not just an abstract defense. - It's not just an abstract defense.
471 00:20:02,708 00:20:04,075 Courtney. Courtney.
472 00:20:04,143 00:20:05,644 - I can confirm that marissa was at jim's apartment - I can confirm that marissa was at jim's apartment
473 00:20:05,711 00:20:08,179 On my instruction to pick up registration forms. On my instruction to pick up registration forms.
474 00:20:08,247 00:20:11,016 As for arturo, i sent him to soho at 7:00 to leaflet. As for arturo, i sent him to soho at 7:00 to leaflet.
475 00:20:11,083 00:20:14,085 - Jack, i'm just asking you not to rush to judgment here. - Jack, i'm just asking you not to rush to judgment here.
476 00:20:14,153 00:20:17,622 The rights alliance has worked across party lines for 20 years. The rights alliance has worked across party lines for 20 years.
477 00:20:17,690 00:20:19,291 Why put those good works into jeopardy Why put those good works into jeopardy
478 00:20:19,358 00:20:21,660 Over a few dumb kids in some ambush video? Over a few dumb kids in some ambush video?
479 00:20:21,727 00:20:23,695 - Davis, the chips will fall where they fall. - Davis, the chips will fall where they fall.
480 00:20:23,763 00:20:26,064 Thanks for coming in. Thanks for coming in.
481 00:20:26,132 00:20:30,035 Mrs. Owens. Mrs. Owens.
482 00:20:32,071 00:20:34,406 - "A few dumb kids." He's kidding, right? - "A few dumb kids." He's kidding, right?
483 00:20:34,473 00:20:35,941 - The rights alliance has a legacy - The rights alliance has a legacy
484 00:20:36,008 00:20:37,809 Worth protecting. Worth protecting.
485 00:20:37,877 00:20:40,412 Predatory lending reform, housing, Predatory lending reform, housing,
486 00:20:40,479 00:20:41,513 Minimum wage. Minimum wage.
487 00:20:41,580 00:20:42,714 - No one's disputing that. - No one's disputing that.
488 00:20:42,782 00:20:44,649 - So let's go the extra mile - So let's go the extra mile
489 00:20:44,717 00:20:47,052 Before we blow it all up. Before we blow it all up.
490 00:20:47,119 00:20:50,588 What about this patriot ranger jerry ganz? What about this patriot ranger jerry ganz?
491 00:20:50,656 00:20:52,390 Didn't he threaten landy with a gun? Didn't he threaten landy with a gun?
492 00:20:52,458 00:20:54,693 - If you're asking if the police have eliminated him - If you're asking if the police have eliminated him
493 00:20:54,760 00:20:56,695 As a suspect, the answer's no. As a suspect, the answer's no.
494 00:20:58,864 00:21:01,766 Say no more. Say no more.
495 00:21:01,834 00:21:03,068 - Bad news, jerry. - Bad news, jerry.
496 00:21:03,135 00:21:04,502 Guess what we found in your composter. Guess what we found in your composter.
497 00:21:04,570 00:21:06,705 - Okay, so i grabbed the camera away from the jackass. - Okay, so i grabbed the camera away from the jackass.
498 00:21:06,772 00:21:09,407 Then he took off. But i never hurt him. Then he took off. But i never hurt him.
499 00:21:09,475 00:21:11,543 - Then why lie to us about the camera? - Then why lie to us about the camera?
500 00:21:11,610 00:21:14,079 - Only because when i read someone killed him, - Only because when i read someone killed him,
501 00:21:14,146 00:21:15,380 I knew how this would look. I knew how this would look.
502 00:21:15,448 00:21:17,549 I am not the type the government usually gives I am not the type the government usually gives
503 00:21:17,616 00:21:18,616 The benefit of the doubt. The benefit of the doubt.
504 00:21:18,684 00:21:20,952 - Excuse me. Yeah. - Excuse me. Yeah.
505 00:21:21,020 00:21:23,121 Sorry, wrong answer. Sorry, wrong answer.
506 00:21:23,189 00:21:28,159 - So try again, jerry. - So try again, jerry.
507 00:21:28,227 00:21:30,095 - The lab examined - The lab examined
508 00:21:30,162 00:21:31,830 His shoes, his clothes. His shoes, his clothes.
509 00:21:31,897 00:21:33,531 No blood, no fluids. No blood, no fluids.
510 00:21:33,599 00:21:36,735 There's nothing linking him to landy or the paint factory. There's nothing linking him to landy or the paint factory.
511 00:21:36,802 00:21:39,137 - And nothing eliminating him as a suspect. - And nothing eliminating him as a suspect.
512 00:21:39,205 00:21:41,139 - Finding the camera complicates matters. - Finding the camera complicates matters.
513 00:21:41,207 00:21:42,440 We can't kick ganz, We can't kick ganz,
514 00:21:42,508 00:21:43,842 But we still can't charge him. But we still can't charge him.
515 00:21:43,909 00:21:45,343 - Well, pardon my detectives - Well, pardon my detectives
516 00:21:45,411 00:21:46,878 For doing their job. For doing their job.
517 00:21:46,946 00:21:49,981 And, by the way, we already have two murder suspects. And, by the way, we already have two murder suspects.
518 00:21:50,049 00:21:51,082 Good ones. Good ones.
519 00:21:51,797 00:21:53,231 - Not good enough. - Not good enough.
520 00:21:53,298 00:21:55,900 - Exactly what do you want from us? - Exactly what do you want from us?
521 00:21:55,968 00:21:57,135 - Clarity. - Clarity.
522 00:21:57,202 00:21:58,903 - Clarity. - Clarity.
523 00:22:00,466 00:22:03,623 Mr. Cutter, exactly how long have you been an a.D.A.? Mr. Cutter, exactly how long have you been an a.D.A.?
524 00:22:05,211 00:22:07,764 Since when do you get evidentiary clarity Since when do you get evidentiary clarity
525 00:22:07,764 00:22:10,589 In a murder case handed to you on a silver platter? In a murder case handed to you on a silver platter?
526 00:22:10,589 00:22:12,352 I think we're done here for today. I think we're done here for today.
527 00:22:26,786 00:22:29,614 Hey, i want you to have the lab take another run Hey, i want you to have the lab take another run
528 00:22:29,614 00:22:31,439 At matching those footprints to ganz. At matching those footprints to ganz.
529 00:22:31,439 00:22:32,580 - Loo, you gotta see this. - Loo, you gotta see this.
530 00:22:33,535 00:22:36,231 - Ccs salvaged some of the data from the memory card - Ccs salvaged some of the data from the memory card
531 00:22:36,231 00:22:37,124 From landy's camera. From landy's camera.
532 00:22:37,124 00:22:38,749 It's all from the night he was killed. It's all from the night he was killed.
533 00:22:38,749 00:22:43,635 He's driving in his suv. He's driving in his suv.
534 00:22:43,703 00:22:44,259 - Hello. - Hello.
535 00:22:44,259 00:22:46,238 Courtney, hey. Courtney, hey.
536 00:22:47,562 00:22:48,635 I already talked to marissa. I already talked to marissa.
537 00:22:48,635 00:22:50,251 I have one last area to hit, I have one last area to hit,
538 00:22:50,251 00:22:51,137 And then i'm going home. And then i'm going home.
539 00:22:51,137 00:22:52,349 I can meet with arturo tomorrow. I can meet with arturo tomorrow.
540 00:22:53,707 00:22:54,255 Why tonight? Why tonight?
541 00:22:54,464 00:22:56,131 What's the big deal? What's the big deal?
542 00:22:56,199 00:22:58,934 If you really want me to, fine. If you really want me to, fine.
543 00:22:59,001 00:23:00,435 Good night. Good night.
544 00:23:00,503 00:23:01,503 Morons. Morons.
545 00:23:03,539 00:23:05,240 - Courtney owens said she never spoke - Courtney owens said she never spoke
546 00:23:05,308 00:23:06,575 To him that night. To him that night.
547 00:23:06,642 00:23:07,943 And here she is calling him. And here she is calling him.
548 00:23:08,010 00:23:10,345 - And sending him to meet arturo ramirez. - And sending him to meet arturo ramirez.
549 00:23:10,413 00:23:12,214 - Talk to mrs. Owens' family. - Talk to mrs. Owens' family.
550 00:23:12,281 00:23:14,082 Find out what she was up to that night. Find out what she was up to that night.
551 00:23:14,150 00:23:18,387 I'll fill out a 49 for mike cutter. I'll fill out a 49 for mike cutter.
552 00:23:59,929 00:24:03,349 Rey. - Hey, loo. Rey. - Hey, loo.
553 00:24:05,802 00:24:09,320 - I'm so sorry about deborah. - Thanks. - I'm so sorry about deborah. - Thanks.
554 00:24:10,273 00:24:13,641 It means a lot, you being here. - Thanks. It means a lot, you being here. - Thanks.
555 00:24:15,211 00:24:19,314 Your daughters are so beautiful. Your daughters are so beautiful.
556 00:24:19,382 00:24:20,682 So how you doing, old friend? So how you doing, old friend?
557 00:24:20,750 00:24:23,919 - A day at a time. - A day at a time.
558 00:24:25,357 00:24:25,937 How about you? How about you?
559 00:24:25,937 00:24:29,149 Morris said that, uh, he heard you were sick. Morris said that, uh, he heard you were sick.
560 00:24:37,179 00:24:38,453 Just rotten luck all around. Just rotten luck all around.
561 00:24:41,951 00:24:43,351 Well, listen, um, Well, listen, um,
562 00:24:43,419 00:24:45,620 My girls and i are going to my sister-In-Law's My girls and i are going to my sister-In-Law's
563 00:24:45,688 00:24:47,541 In hempstead for a little reception. You want to join us? In hempstead for a little reception. You want to join us?
564 00:24:47,864 00:24:50,892 - Oh, i'd love to, but i need to get back. - Oh, i'd love to, but i need to get back.
565 00:24:52,595 00:24:56,130 - Well, if you can spare a few minutes, - Well, if you can spare a few minutes,
566 00:24:56,198 00:24:57,699 It'd be a shame not to catch up. It'd be a shame not to catch up.
567 00:24:57,766 00:24:58,930 - Sure. - Sure.
568 00:24:59,903 00:25:01,057 I'd like that. I'd like that.
569 00:25:04,192 00:25:07,094 - After ten years, deborah couldn't fight it anymore. - After ten years, deborah couldn't fight it anymore.
570 00:25:07,162 00:25:11,065 The m.S. Just completely overwhelmed her. The m.S. Just completely overwhelmed her.
571 00:25:15,437 00:25:18,872 She died at home in my arms. She died at home in my arms.
572 00:25:21,343 00:25:23,077 - So what's next? - So what's next?
573 00:25:23,144 00:25:26,171 You heading back to california? - Yeah. You heading back to california? - Yeah.
574 00:25:26,514 00:25:29,278 The girls love it, And the job is good. The girls love it, And the job is good.
575 00:25:31,019 00:25:32,186 But deborah was from the island, But deborah was from the island,
576 00:25:32,253 00:25:34,213 So it made sense to bury her here So it made sense to bury her here
577 00:25:34,213 00:25:38,425 With her folks. With her folks.
578 00:25:39,871 00:25:42,096 We're losing a lot of people, loo. We're losing a lot of people, loo.
579 00:25:44,015 00:25:46,131 I talked to lennie a few days before the end, I talked to lennie a few days before the end,
580 00:25:46,131 00:25:48,644 And he was still cracking jokes. And he was still cracking jokes.
581 00:25:48,644 00:25:52,562 - Yeah. Good old lennie. - Yeah. Good old lennie.
582 00:25:55,199 00:25:59,302 - But deborah... - But deborah...
583 00:25:59,370 00:26:02,872 in the end, my girl, in the end, my girl,
584 00:26:02,940 00:26:05,942 She tried to be brave. She tried to be brave.
585 00:26:08,713 00:26:12,115 But it was bad. It was bad. But it was bad. It was bad.
586 00:26:31,168 00:26:32,702 - Courtney didn't get home until late. - Courtney didn't get home until late.
587 00:26:32,770 00:26:34,938 I think she was at the office. I think she was at the office.
588 00:26:35,005 00:26:36,339 - You used to work at the rights alliance - You used to work at the rights alliance
589 00:26:36,407 00:26:37,640 With your wife, mr. Owens? With your wife, mr. Owens?
590 00:26:37,708 00:26:39,442 - Yes, i was in accounting for 12 years. - Yes, i was in accounting for 12 years.
591 00:26:39,510 00:26:41,945 Let me tell you, the view's better in the private sector. Let me tell you, the view's better in the private sector.
592 00:26:42,012 00:26:44,013 - Did you know jim landy? - Did you know jim landy?
593 00:26:44,081 00:26:46,983 - No, i think he started just as i was leaving. - No, i think he started just as i was leaving.
594 00:26:47,051 00:26:48,318 - Did your wife say anything about him - Did your wife say anything about him
595 00:26:48,385 00:26:49,652 When she came home that night he was killed? When she came home that night he was killed?
596 00:26:49,720 00:26:52,655 - Truth is, i was asleep when she got in. - Truth is, i was asleep when she got in.
597 00:26:52,723 00:26:54,124 We didn't talk. We didn't talk.
598 00:26:54,191 00:26:55,558 And now, is there anything else? And now, is there anything else?
599 00:26:55,626 00:26:57,627 - You're right. The view is better here. - You're right. The view is better here.
600 00:26:57,695 00:26:59,562 From accounting to p.R. From accounting to p.R.
601 00:26:59,630 00:27:00,663 How'd you swing that? How'd you swing that?
602 00:27:00,731 00:27:02,065 - What do you mean? - What do you mean?
603 00:27:02,133 00:27:06,402 - Nothing. It's just an interesting career change. - Nothing. It's just an interesting career change.
604 00:27:06,470 00:27:08,738 - Well, that's what it is. - Well, that's what it is.
605 00:27:08,806 00:27:10,540 Interesting. Interesting.
606 00:27:10,608 00:27:13,143 Now i really need to get back to work. Now i really need to get back to work.
607 00:27:13,210 00:27:14,310 - Courtney owens' husband - Courtney owens' husband
608 00:27:14,378 00:27:17,113 Was a bookkeeper with the rights alliance. Was a bookkeeper with the rights alliance.
609 00:27:17,181 00:27:19,516 Then three weeks ago, he's reborn Then three weeks ago, he's reborn
610 00:27:19,583 00:27:21,684 As a public relations executive, As a public relations executive,
611 00:27:21,752 00:27:24,020 A job he has no background for. A job he has no background for.
612 00:27:24,088 00:27:25,321 - That's a move i'd like to learn. - That's a move i'd like to learn.
613 00:27:25,389 00:27:27,957 - Well, no doubt it helped that the p.R. Firm - Well, no doubt it helped that the p.R. Firm
614 00:27:28,025 00:27:30,794 Has a million-Dollar account with the rights alliance. Has a million-Dollar account with the rights alliance.
615 00:27:30,861 00:27:32,796 - So his wife was pulling a few strings. - So his wife was pulling a few strings.
616 00:27:32,863 00:27:33,797 That's not so unusual. That's not so unusual.
617 00:27:33,864 00:27:35,064 - Well, but this is. - Well, but this is.
618 00:27:35,132 00:27:37,433 A month before he left the rights alliance, A month before he left the rights alliance,
619 00:27:37,501 00:27:40,303 The man started buying municipal bonds. The man started buying municipal bonds.
620 00:27:40,371 00:27:44,541 In three weeks, he bought just over $500,000 worth. In three weeks, he bought just over $500,000 worth.
621 00:27:44,608 00:27:46,075 - On a bookkeeper's salary? - On a bookkeeper's salary?
622 00:27:46,143 00:27:47,343 - Where did the money come from? - Where did the money come from?
623 00:27:47,411 00:27:48,778 - Over the same three weeks, - Over the same three weeks,
624 00:27:48,846 00:27:52,115 The rights alliance special project fund The rights alliance special project fund
625 00:27:52,183 00:27:54,384 Shows an unexplained debit Shows an unexplained debit
626 00:27:54,451 00:27:56,052 Of $500,000. Of $500,000.
627 00:27:56,120 00:27:57,787 - He was embezzling. - He was embezzling.
628 00:27:57,855 00:28:00,190 - And maybe somebody-- His wife courtney-- - And maybe somebody-- His wife courtney--
629 00:28:00,257 00:28:01,758 Found out what he was up to Found out what he was up to
630 00:28:01,826 00:28:03,359 And got him out the door before anyone else And got him out the door before anyone else
631 00:28:03,427 00:28:04,794 At the rights alliance could trip to it. At the rights alliance could trip to it.
632 00:28:04,862 00:28:06,596 - Or she was in on the embezzlement. - Or she was in on the embezzlement.
633 00:28:06,664 00:28:09,232 - All fine and good, but landy's murder? - All fine and good, but landy's murder?
634 00:28:09,300 00:28:11,034 - We found evidence courtney called landy - We found evidence courtney called landy
635 00:28:11,101 00:28:12,502 The night he was killed-- The night he was killed--
636 00:28:12,570 00:28:15,238 Evidence she sent him to meet arturo ramirez. Evidence she sent him to meet arturo ramirez.
637 00:28:15,306 00:28:16,306 - Of course. - Of course.
638 00:28:16,373 00:28:18,007 She was worried that whatever scandal She was worried that whatever scandal
639 00:28:18,075 00:28:19,609 Landy's video would generate Landy's video would generate
640 00:28:19,677 00:28:22,078 Wouldn't stop at the pasta plate extortion, Wouldn't stop at the pasta plate extortion,
641 00:28:22,146 00:28:25,582 That it would eventually expose her husband's embezzlement. That it would eventually expose her husband's embezzlement.
642 00:28:25,649 00:28:28,051 - So another murder suspect, courtney owens. - So another murder suspect, courtney owens.
643 00:28:28,118 00:28:30,653 I hope you've at least eliminated jerry ganz I hope you've at least eliminated jerry ganz
644 00:28:30,721 00:28:32,755 From the running. - Not quite. From the running. - Not quite.
645 00:28:32,823 00:28:36,092 - The police found landy's camera - The police found landy's camera
646 00:28:36,160 00:28:37,760 Hidden on ganz's property, Hidden on ganz's property,
647 00:28:37,828 00:28:41,064 And he had access to the murder scene. And he had access to the murder scene.
648 00:28:41,131 00:28:43,399 - So the list of suspects just keeps growing. - So the list of suspects just keeps growing.
649 00:28:43,467 00:28:46,836 And we have no definite proof of anything. And we have no definite proof of anything.
650 00:28:46,904 00:28:49,339 Somebody say something. Somebody say something.
651 00:28:49,406 00:28:52,609 - This is not a simple murder, jack. - This is not a simple murder, jack.
652 00:28:52,676 00:28:54,077 - Then sort it out, all of you, - Then sort it out, all of you,
653 00:28:54,144 00:28:55,745 Or find people who can. Or find people who can.
654 00:29:07,247 00:29:08,213 - I had to take work home, - I had to take work home,
655 00:29:08,281 00:29:09,314 But i didn't have my flash drive, But i didn't have my flash drive,
656 00:29:09,382 00:29:12,684 So i borrowed jim's from his desk. So i borrowed jim's from his desk.
657 00:29:12,752 00:29:15,988 That's when i found the video he made. That's when i found the video he made.
658 00:29:16,056 00:29:17,856 - Did you tell anyone? - Did you tell anyone?
659 00:29:17,924 00:29:20,426 - Yes. Courtney. And she freaked. - Yes. Courtney. And she freaked.
660 00:29:20,493 00:29:22,566 She said we had to get his videos, She said we had to get his videos,
661 00:29:22,566 00:29:23,616 Or we'd go to jail. Or we'd go to jail.
662 00:29:24,249 00:29:25,495 She told me to tell jim to meet arturo She told me to tell jim to meet arturo
663 00:29:25,562 00:29:28,331 At the paint factory, just tell him some story At the paint factory, just tell him some story
664 00:29:28,399 00:29:31,634 That there were squatters there, and they needed to register. That there were squatters there, and they needed to register.
665 00:29:31,702 00:29:33,236 Jim didn't want to go. Jim didn't want to go.
666 00:29:33,303 00:29:34,504 So courtney called him. So courtney called him.
667 00:29:34,571 00:29:35,838 - What did you do? - What did you do?
668 00:29:35,906 00:29:40,076 - Courtney told me to meet arturo at jim's place. - Courtney told me to meet arturo at jim's place.
669 00:29:40,144 00:29:42,879 He called and told me how to get into jim's place He called and told me how to get into jim's place
670 00:29:42,946 00:29:44,380 And where to find these memory cards. And where to find these memory cards.
671 00:29:44,448 00:29:47,183 - Did arturo tell you he killed jim? - Did arturo tell you he killed jim?
672 00:29:47,251 00:29:49,666 - No. But i didn't know anything about it - No. But i didn't know anything about it
673 00:29:49,687 00:29:51,287 Until the cops showed up at the rights alliance. Until the cops showed up at the rights alliance.
674 00:29:51,355 00:29:53,989 - Marissa, unless you tell us everything... - Marissa, unless you tell us everything...
675 00:29:53,989 00:29:56,826 - i am! - i am!
676 00:29:56,894 00:29:59,762 I don't know anything about this murder. I don't know anything about this murder.
677 00:29:59,830 00:30:01,964 I swear. I swear.
678 00:30:02,032 00:30:03,933 - So what the chemical from the paint factory - So what the chemical from the paint factory
679 00:30:04,001 00:30:04,967 Was on my shoes. Was on my shoes.
680 00:30:05,035 00:30:06,769 I was picketing there six months ago. I was picketing there six months ago.
681 00:30:06,837 00:30:08,604 As far as marissa saying that i called her As far as marissa saying that i called her
682 00:30:08,672 00:30:11,941 About landy's videos, About landy's videos,
683 00:30:12,009 00:30:13,876 She's lying. She's lying.
684 00:30:13,944 00:30:17,547 I called her 'cause i wanted to hit that. I called her 'cause i wanted to hit that.
685 00:30:17,614 00:30:19,882 - We also have you picking up landy's videos - We also have you picking up landy's videos
686 00:30:19,950 00:30:21,350 The day after his murder. The day after his murder.
687 00:30:21,418 00:30:23,086 - You know, dumping landy's body, - You know, dumping landy's body,
688 00:30:23,153 00:30:25,822 Making us think it was some anti-Government nut, Making us think it was some anti-Government nut,
689 00:30:25,889 00:30:28,224 That--That put us off the trail for maybe five minutes. That--That put us off the trail for maybe five minutes.
690 00:30:28,292 00:30:30,760 But now you're in our crosshairs. But now you're in our crosshairs.
691 00:30:30,828 00:30:31,861 Either you roll on courtney, Either you roll on courtney,
692 00:30:31,929 00:30:34,039 Or you take the weight for everything. Or you take the weight for everything.
693 00:30:34,264 00:30:36,432 - Nah, see, you got nothing. - Nah, see, you got nothing.
694 00:30:36,500 00:30:39,135 Just proof i picked up some dead guy's videos, Just proof i picked up some dead guy's videos,
695 00:30:39,203 00:30:41,571 Which i paid for. Which i paid for.
696 00:30:41,638 00:30:43,039 You want to nail me for that, You want to nail me for that,
697 00:30:43,107 00:30:47,410 Go crazy. Go crazy.
698 00:30:47,478 00:30:48,745 - He dodged all security cameras - He dodged all security cameras
699 00:30:48,812 00:30:50,480 On the ferries and bridges. On the ferries and bridges.
700 00:30:50,547 00:30:52,982 - What about his cell phone call to marissa? - What about his cell phone call to marissa?
701 00:30:53,050 00:30:56,319 Tell me it bounced off a tower on staten island. Tell me it bounced off a tower on staten island.
702 00:30:56,386 00:30:57,720 - No. Brooklyn. - No. Brooklyn.
703 00:30:57,788 00:30:58,721 He was already across the bridge. He was already across the bridge.
704 00:30:58,789 00:31:00,389 But this is weird. But this is weird.
705 00:31:00,457 00:31:03,192 Ramirez made 26 calls in the last six months Ramirez made 26 calls in the last six months
706 00:31:03,260 00:31:04,894 From a location near jfk. From a location near jfk.
707 00:31:04,962 00:31:06,696 Always on tuesdays and thursdays. Always on tuesdays and thursdays.
708 00:31:06,764 00:31:07,997 And always in the early evening. And always in the early evening.
709 00:31:08,065 00:31:09,465 - Calls to who? - Calls to who?
710 00:31:09,533 00:31:10,466 - Different people. - Different people.
711 00:31:10,534 00:31:11,934 It's the pattern that sticks out. It's the pattern that sticks out.
712 00:31:12,002 00:31:13,936 - Pinpoint the exact location. - Pinpoint the exact location.
713 00:31:14,004 00:31:16,706 If it's inside the jfk security ring, If it's inside the jfk security ring,
714 00:31:16,774 00:31:18,808 There'll be video. There'll be video.
715 00:31:18,876 00:31:21,444 - All the calls were made in proximity - All the calls were made in proximity
716 00:31:21,512 00:31:23,446 To the vanguard airport hotel. To the vanguard airport hotel.
717 00:31:23,514 00:31:26,949 Here is mr. Ramirez sitting behind the wheel Here is mr. Ramirez sitting behind the wheel
718 00:31:27,017 00:31:29,852 October 2nd, 5:29 p.M. - What's he doing there? October 2nd, 5:29 p.M. - What's he doing there?
719 00:31:29,920 00:31:33,456 - Stay tuned. - Stay tuned.
720 00:31:33,524 00:31:36,192 - Davis webb. - Davis webb.
721 00:31:36,260 00:31:39,428 - And this was a minute later. - Courtney owens. - And this was a minute later. - Courtney owens.
722 00:31:39,496 00:31:41,798 - The front desk said that she and mr. Webb - The front desk said that she and mr. Webb
723 00:31:41,865 00:31:44,467 Have been regulars, twice a week, Have been regulars, twice a week,
724 00:31:44,535 00:31:46,102 For the past eight months. For the past eight months.
725 00:31:46,170 00:31:48,471 - An affair. Just what this case needed. - An affair. Just what this case needed.
726 00:31:48,539 00:31:50,173 - It appears to be over. - It appears to be over.
727 00:31:50,240 00:31:51,707 The front desk said they stopped coming The front desk said they stopped coming
728 00:31:51,775 00:31:53,776 Six weeks ago. Six weeks ago.
729 00:31:53,844 00:31:55,645 - Six weeks is when courtney's husband started taking money - Six weeks is when courtney's husband started taking money
730 00:31:55,712 00:31:57,180 Out of the rights alliance. Out of the rights alliance.
731 00:31:57,247 00:31:59,048 - Right, but i don't think he was taking it, - Right, but i don't think he was taking it,
732 00:31:59,116 00:32:01,217 So much as someone was giving it to him So much as someone was giving it to him
733 00:32:01,285 00:32:02,819 To keep his mouth shut. To keep his mouth shut.
734 00:32:02,886 00:32:05,555 - Courtney's husband found out about the affair. - Courtney's husband found out about the affair.
735 00:32:05,622 00:32:07,824 Webb paid him off with the rights alliance money, Webb paid him off with the rights alliance money,
736 00:32:07,891 00:32:09,125 Found him a cushy job. Found him a cushy job.
737 00:32:09,193 00:32:10,860 - And webb's married, - And webb's married,
738 00:32:10,928 00:32:12,094 The head of a national organization, The head of a national organization,
739 00:32:12,162 00:32:14,163 A guy with political ambitions. A guy with political ambitions.
740 00:32:14,231 00:32:15,431 - So this is the real scandal. - So this is the real scandal.
741 00:32:15,499 00:32:18,267 They were afraid landy's video would unravel. They were afraid landy's video would unravel.
742 00:32:18,335 00:32:21,337 They killed him to cover up the cover-Up They killed him to cover up the cover-Up
743 00:32:21,405 00:32:24,473 Of their affair. Of their affair.
744 00:32:24,541 00:32:26,008 - Just how many layers does this onion have? - Just how many layers does this onion have?
745 00:32:26,076 00:32:27,577 - It all comes down to davis webb. - It all comes down to davis webb.
746 00:32:27,644 00:32:29,011 He had the most to lose. He had the most to lose.
747 00:32:29,079 00:32:30,580 Ramirez was his go-For. Ramirez was his go-For.
748 00:32:30,647 00:32:33,749 If anyone gave the order to get rid of landy, it's webb. If anyone gave the order to get rid of landy, it's webb.
749 00:32:33,817 00:32:34,984 - Then what are you waiting for? - Then what are you waiting for?
750 00:32:35,052 00:32:36,819 If you have the evidence, charge him. If you have the evidence, charge him.
751 00:32:36,887 00:32:38,087 I see. I see.
752 00:32:38,155 00:32:41,157 And what's with our favorite patriot ranger? And what's with our favorite patriot ranger?
753 00:32:41,225 00:32:43,059 - Ganz is refusing to post bail. - Ganz is refusing to post bail.
754 00:32:43,126 00:32:45,695 His lawyer keeps squawking about malicious prosecution. His lawyer keeps squawking about malicious prosecution.
755 00:32:45,762 00:32:47,530 - Despite the fact that his client lied - Despite the fact that his client lied
756 00:32:47,598 00:32:49,098 To the police and destroyed evidence. To the police and destroyed evidence.
757 00:32:49,166 00:32:50,533 - That's the problem right there. - That's the problem right there.
758 00:32:50,601 00:32:53,436 If you can argue ganz is the killer one minute If you can argue ganz is the killer one minute
759 00:32:53,503 00:32:55,338 And webb the next, so can they. And webb the next, so can they.
760 00:32:55,405 00:32:57,440 - They can point at each other and create reasonable doubt. - They can point at each other and create reasonable doubt.
761 00:32:57,507 00:32:59,442 - This is great. More good news. - This is great. More good news.
762 00:32:59,509 00:33:01,043 Davis webb, on behalf of the rights alliance, Davis webb, on behalf of the rights alliance,
763 00:33:01,111 00:33:02,845 Just hit us with a motion to suppress. Just hit us with a motion to suppress.
764 00:33:02,913 00:33:04,013 - Deal with it. - Deal with it.
765 00:33:04,081 00:33:06,415 I have to attend a panel on violent crime, I have to attend a panel on violent crime,
766 00:33:06,483 00:33:09,051 But it would be nice if we were solving it, But it would be nice if we were solving it,
767 00:33:09,119 00:33:11,020 Instead of just talking about it. Instead of just talking about it.
768 00:33:12,656 00:33:16,459 In 2008, new york city was the safest big city In 2008, new york city was the safest big city
769 00:33:16,526 00:33:17,693 In the nation, In the nation,
770 00:33:17,761 00:33:19,562 But there are still areas where we can do better. But there are still areas where we can do better.
771 00:33:19,630 00:33:22,598 And with your help, we will. And with your help, we will.
772 00:33:22,666 00:33:24,634 I have time for a few questions. I have time for a few questions.
773 00:33:24,701 00:33:26,202 Yeah. Yeah.
774 00:33:26,270 00:33:27,436 - I'd like you to address - I'd like you to address
775 00:33:27,504 00:33:29,138 Your office's naked contempt Your office's naked contempt
776 00:33:29,206 00:33:30,907 For the rights alliance. For the rights alliance.
777 00:33:30,974 00:33:33,075 You've arrested two employees. You're harassing others. You've arrested two employees. You're harassing others.
778 00:33:33,143 00:33:35,611 - We have no such contempt. - We have no such contempt.
779 00:33:35,679 00:33:37,580 I've worked with the rights alliance I've worked with the rights alliance
780 00:33:37,648 00:33:41,050 In the past and hope to again. In the past and hope to again.
781 00:33:41,118 00:33:42,285 - Lies! - Lies!
782 00:33:42,352 00:33:43,786 - You're letting socialist scum - You're letting socialist scum
783 00:33:43,854 00:33:44,987 Get away with murder Get away with murder
784 00:33:45,055 00:33:47,823 While an innocent patriot rots in jail. While an innocent patriot rots in jail.
785 00:33:47,891 00:33:51,460 - I won't comment on an ongoing investigation. - I won't comment on an ongoing investigation.
786 00:33:51,528 00:33:53,329 - Come on! - You're just gonna stand there - Come on! - You're just gonna stand there
787 00:33:53,397 00:33:56,565 And tell us you don't owe any of us an explanation? And tell us you don't owe any of us an explanation?
788 00:33:56,633 00:33:58,334 You're the one that should be investigated. You're the one that should be investigated.
789 00:33:59,469 00:34:00,903 - Thanks for your time. - Thanks for your time.
790 00:34:00,971 00:34:03,139 - Tyrant! Free jerry! - Tyrant! Free jerry!
791 00:34:03,206 00:34:05,074 Free jerry! - No justice, no peace. Free jerry! - No justice, no peace.
792 00:34:05,142 00:34:06,976 All: free jerry! No justice, no peace. All: free jerry! No justice, no peace.
793 00:34:07,044 00:34:09,645 Free jerry! No justice, no peace. Free jerry! No justice, no peace.
794 00:34:12,916 00:34:16,152 - I was like a corncob in a pigsty. - I was like a corncob in a pigsty.
795 00:34:16,219 00:34:17,453 They all wanted a piece of me. They all wanted a piece of me.
796 00:34:17,521 00:34:18,854 - Well, don't tell me you're afraid - Well, don't tell me you're afraid
797 00:34:18,922 00:34:20,823 Of a little democracy in action. Of a little democracy in action.
798 00:34:20,891 00:34:22,124 - I wouldn't have minded it so much - I wouldn't have minded it so much
799 00:34:22,192 00:34:23,759 If it wasn't all our own damn fault. If it wasn't all our own damn fault.
800 00:34:23,827 00:34:26,963 We're twisting in the wind with multiple suspects. We're twisting in the wind with multiple suspects.
801 00:34:27,030 00:34:29,298 And the police haven't closed the loop on anyone. And the police haven't closed the loop on anyone.
802 00:34:29,366 00:34:32,668 - I don't decide who to prosecute. You do. - I don't decide who to prosecute. You do.
803 00:34:32,736 00:34:34,170 - You have to set the table for us, lieutenant. - You have to set the table for us, lieutenant.
804 00:34:34,237 00:34:35,638 That's how this works. That's how this works.
805 00:34:35,706 00:34:38,541 - I'll tell you exactly how this works, mr. Mccoy. - I'll tell you exactly how this works, mr. Mccoy.
806 00:34:38,608 00:34:41,711 You and your whole office... You and your whole office...
807 00:34:51,888 00:34:53,356 i have to get back. i have to get back.
808 00:35:05,268 00:35:07,069 - I didn't tell marissa to call jim. - I didn't tell marissa to call jim.
809 00:35:07,137 00:35:08,637 I didn't tell her anything. I didn't tell her anything.
810 00:35:08,705 00:35:09,972 She's lying. She's lying.
811 00:35:10,040 00:35:11,173 She's a desperate girl. She's a desperate girl.
812 00:35:11,241 00:35:13,676 - We have the tape of your call to jim, - We have the tape of your call to jim,
813 00:35:13,744 00:35:15,745 The one where you told him to meet arturo. The one where you told him to meet arturo.
814 00:35:15,812 00:35:18,381 - To meet him in soho to drop off his registration forms. - To meet him in soho to drop off his registration forms.
815 00:35:18,448 00:35:19,782 He never showed up. He never showed up.
816 00:35:19,850 00:35:21,517 That's why i sent marissa to his apartment. That's why i sent marissa to his apartment.
817 00:35:21,585 00:35:23,753 - But you said you never talked to jim. - But you said you never talked to jim.
818 00:35:23,820 00:35:27,123 - I remembered the call after i spoke to you. - I remembered the call after i spoke to you.
819 00:35:27,190 00:35:28,257 I didn't think it mattered. I didn't think it mattered.
820 00:35:28,325 00:35:29,658 - Look, mrs. Owens, - Look, mrs. Owens,
821 00:35:29,726 00:35:32,461 We get that killing landy wasn't your idea. We get that killing landy wasn't your idea.
822 00:35:32,529 00:35:35,698 We get that you want to protect davis webb. We get that you want to protect davis webb.
823 00:35:35,766 00:35:37,733 - I'm not protecting anybody. - I'm not protecting anybody.
824 00:35:37,801 00:35:40,269 - This whole mess is gonna fall on you - This whole mess is gonna fall on you
825 00:35:40,337 00:35:41,337 Or on mr. Webb. Or on mr. Webb.
826 00:35:41,405 00:35:43,372 - That affair is over. - That affair is over.
827 00:35:43,440 00:35:45,374 I'm back with my husband now. I'm back with my husband now.
828 00:35:45,442 00:35:47,443 I'm not protecting davis webb. I'm not protecting davis webb.
829 00:35:47,511 00:35:49,845 I have no reason to. I have no reason to.
830 00:35:53,850 00:35:56,852 - Give me and mrs. Owens a second. - Give me and mrs. Owens a second.
831 00:36:01,191 00:36:04,527 Mrs. Owens, when my detectives came to pick you up Mrs. Owens, when my detectives came to pick you up
832 00:36:04,594 00:36:08,230 At your office, had you just come from some special occasion? At your office, had you just come from some special occasion?
833 00:36:08,298 00:36:09,498 - No. - No.
834 00:36:09,566 00:36:11,367 - Were you going somewhere special after work? - Were you going somewhere special after work?
835 00:36:11,435 00:36:12,435 - No. Just home. - No. Just home.
836 00:36:12,502 00:36:15,137 - Just home to your husband. - Just home to your husband.
837 00:36:15,205 00:36:16,806 - Well, he has a dinner with clients. - Well, he has a dinner with clients.
838 00:36:16,873 00:36:19,608 - And these-- - And these--
839 00:36:19,676 00:36:24,413 These stockings you're wearing... These stockings you're wearing...
840 00:36:26,249 00:36:28,617 they're not your everyday gear, are they? they're not your everyday gear, are they?
841 00:36:28,685 00:36:31,754 I don't know. I... I don't know. I...
842 00:36:31,822 00:36:35,287 - they're expensive. They're sexy. - they're expensive. They're sexy.
843 00:36:35,692 00:36:38,587 You're still seeing him, aren't you? Davis webb. You're still seeing him, aren't you? Davis webb.
844 00:36:38,728 00:36:41,305 - No. That's over. It was nothing. - No. That's over. It was nothing.
845 00:36:41,431 00:36:43,299 - You're still in love with him. - You're still in love with him.
846 00:36:43,366 00:36:47,169 What kind of promises did he make you? What kind of promises did he make you?
847 00:36:47,237 00:36:50,639 He say he was gonna leave his wife? He say he was gonna leave his wife?
848 00:36:54,144 00:36:57,680 - He says he just needs a little more time. - He says he just needs a little more time.
849 00:37:01,051 00:37:03,486 Don't give me that look. Don't give me that look.
850 00:37:03,553 00:37:06,255 You don't know how it is with us, okay? You don't know how it is with us, okay?
851 00:37:08,492 00:37:13,429 - Well, i'll tell you what i do know. - Well, i'll tell you what i do know.
852 00:37:13,497 00:37:17,929 When this is done, You'll be in jail, He'll be with her. When this is done, You'll be in jail, He'll be with her.
853 00:37:18,001 00:37:21,359 - No, he won't. Davis loves me. - No, he won't. Davis loves me.
854 00:37:21,605 00:37:24,415 If it comes to that, He'll stand by me. If it comes to that, He'll stand by me.
855 00:37:25,075 00:37:27,476 I know it. I know it.
856 00:37:27,544 00:37:32,609 - Then prove it. Prove it to yourself. - Then prove it. Prove it to yourself.
857 00:37:57,407 00:37:59,508 - You know, whatever you needed to tell me, - You know, whatever you needed to tell me,
858 00:37:59,576 00:38:01,744 It could have waited till we met at the hotel. It could have waited till we met at the hotel.
859 00:38:01,811 00:38:02,912 - We can't go on like this, davis. - We can't go on like this, davis.
860 00:38:02,979 00:38:05,014 Not with marissa and arturo still in jail. Not with marissa and arturo still in jail.
861 00:38:05,081 00:38:07,416 - The rights alliance is covering their legal expenses. - The rights alliance is covering their legal expenses.
862 00:38:07,484 00:38:08,751 The case against them is garbage. The case against them is garbage.
863 00:38:08,818 00:38:10,219 They'll be okay. They'll be okay.
864 00:38:10,287 00:38:12,288 - I'm just really scared. - I'm just really scared.
865 00:38:12,355 00:38:18,160 - Everything's gonna blow over. I promise. - Everything's gonna blow over. I promise.
866 00:38:18,228 00:38:20,196 - When it does, - When it does,
867 00:38:20,263 00:38:22,331 Do you think we can finally get that place together? Do you think we can finally get that place together?
868 00:38:22,399 00:38:24,700 - Down the line, absolutely. - Down the line, absolutely.
869 00:38:24,768 00:38:28,270 I just want the kids out of the house first. I just want the kids out of the house first.
870 00:38:32,976 00:38:35,644 - They're saying-- They're telling me - They're saying-- They're telling me
871 00:38:35,712 00:38:37,446 That you told arturo That you told arturo
872 00:38:37,514 00:38:38,447 To kill jim. To kill jim.
873 00:38:38,515 00:38:39,682 I don't want to believe it. I don't want to believe it.
874 00:38:39,749 00:38:41,684 - Don't believe it. It's a lie. - Don't believe it. It's a lie.
875 00:38:41,751 00:38:43,285 - Then why did he do it? - Then why did he do it?
876 00:38:43,353 00:38:45,688 - You know arturo. He's a loose cannon. - You know arturo. He's a loose cannon.
877 00:38:45,755 00:38:49,258 - Well, you must have told him something. - Well, you must have told him something.
878 00:38:49,326 00:38:51,093 - I told him we had a problem that needed to be cleaned up - I told him we had a problem that needed to be cleaned up
879 00:38:51,161 00:38:52,428 And he had to do what was needed. And he had to do what was needed.
880 00:38:52,495 00:38:55,664 - Do what was needed? - Do what was needed?
881 00:38:55,732 00:38:57,366 How could you tell a guy like arturo that? How could you tell a guy like arturo that?
882 00:38:57,434 00:38:59,168 - Well, what does it matter? - Well, what does it matter?
883 00:38:59,236 00:39:02,104 Arturo knows how to keep his mouth shut. Arturo knows how to keep his mouth shut.
884 00:39:02,172 00:39:03,205 Come here. Come here.
885 00:39:03,273 00:39:06,032 Meet you at the hotel? Meet you at the hotel?
886 00:39:17,153 00:39:18,721 Well, what does it matter? Well, what does it matter?
887 00:39:18,788 00:39:22,558 Arturo knows how to keep his mouth shut. Arturo knows how to keep his mouth shut.
888 00:39:22,626 00:39:25,094 Come here. Come here.
889 00:39:25,161 00:39:27,896 Meet you at the hotel? Meet you at the hotel?
890 00:39:27,964 00:39:30,633 - Here's what happens next, mr. Webb. - Here's what happens next, mr. Webb.
891 00:39:30,700 00:39:34,069 My detectives and ms. Rubirosa are meeting My detectives and ms. Rubirosa are meeting
892 00:39:34,137 00:39:35,904 With arturo ramirez. With arturo ramirez.
893 00:39:35,972 00:39:37,573 They'll play him this tape, They'll play him this tape,
894 00:39:37,641 00:39:40,776 Especially the parts where you implicate him. Especially the parts where you implicate him.
895 00:39:40,844 00:39:43,145 Loyal as he is, my guess-- Loyal as he is, my guess--
896 00:39:43,213 00:39:44,480 He won't take it well. He won't take it well.
897 00:39:44,547 00:39:46,048 - Whoever sings first, - Whoever sings first,
898 00:39:46,116 00:39:47,316 Mr. Webb, Mr. Webb,
899 00:39:47,384 00:39:49,518 Gets the nicer cage. Gets the nicer cage.
900 00:39:49,586 00:39:53,355 - 20 years i spent building this organization. - 20 years i spent building this organization.
901 00:39:53,423 00:39:54,356 What was i supposed to do? What was i supposed to do?
902 00:39:54,424 00:39:56,225 Let some right-Wing hack-- Let some right-Wing hack--
903 00:40:11,135 00:40:11,824 - Come in. - Come in.
904 00:40:16,599 00:40:17,461 Mr. Mccoy. Mr. Mccoy.
905 00:40:18,227 00:40:19,339 What can i do for you? What can i do for you?
906 00:40:19,339 00:40:21,346 - You've already done a lot. - You've already done a lot.
907 00:40:22,013 00:40:28,252 We have pleas from davis webb and arturo ramirez. We have pleas from davis webb and arturo ramirez.
908 00:40:28,319 00:40:31,359 Deals for courtney owens and marissa rumstead Deals for courtney owens and marissa rumstead
909 00:40:31,359 00:40:32,350 Are already in the works, Are already in the works,
910 00:40:32,350 00:40:34,665 And jerry ganz has agreed to five years probation And jerry ganz has agreed to five years probation
911 00:40:34,665 00:40:36,626 On charges of robbery and obstruction. On charges of robbery and obstruction.
912 00:40:37,879 00:40:46,822 Fair day's work. Lieutenant, I'm sorry i suggested Fair day's work. Lieutenant, I'm sorry i suggested
913 00:40:46,822 00:40:49,380 You and your detectives had let me down You and your detectives had let me down
914 00:40:49,380 00:40:50,348 In any way. In any way.
915 00:40:51,439 00:40:52,829 I was wrong. I was wrong.
916 00:41:00,089 00:41:01,455 - Apology accepted. - Apology accepted.
917 00:41:04,305 00:41:07,774 Excuse me. Excuse me.
918 00:41:07,842 00:41:13,580 Hi. Okay. I'll be right down. Hi. Okay. I'll be right down.
919 00:41:13,648 00:41:14,948 That's my ride. That's my ride.
920 00:42:03,376 00:42:05,646 I don't know if I'm gonna make it. I don't know if I'm gonna make it.
921 00:42:05,646 00:42:11,906 Shh. It's gonna be alright. It's gonna be alright. Shh. It's gonna be alright. It's gonna be alright.
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