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1 00:00:00,322 00:00:01,822 In the criminal justice system, In the criminal justice system,
2 00:00:01,890 00:00:04,158 The people are represented by two separate The people are represented by two separate
3 00:00:04,226 00:00:05,960 Yet equally important groups Yet equally important groups
4 00:00:06,027 00:00:07,728 The police who investigate crime The police who investigate crime
5 00:00:07,796 00:00:10,898 And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders.
6 00:00:10,966 00:00:13,100 These are their stories. These are their stories.
7 00:00:17,405 00:00:20,107 - What do you say we close up early? - What do you say we close up early?
8 00:00:20,175 00:00:21,876 - Pay me the same either way, stan. - Pay me the same either way, stan.
9 00:00:21,943 00:00:24,245 - I pay you too much, amigo. - I pay you too much, amigo.
10 00:00:24,312 00:00:25,579 You got plans tonight? You got plans tonight?
11 00:00:25,647 00:00:27,915 - Bruce lee marathon on the dvr. - Bruce lee marathon on the dvr.
12 00:00:27,983 00:00:29,817 - Good-looking guy like you, you should have a girl. - Good-looking guy like you, you should have a girl.
13 00:00:29,885 00:00:31,452 - Who's talking? - Who's talking?
14 00:00:31,520 00:00:33,521 - I need that aggravation? - I need that aggravation?
15 00:00:33,588 00:00:37,258 End of the day, I like my peace and quiet. End of the day, I like my peace and quiet.
16 00:00:39,594 00:00:40,661 - Yo, we get in, we get out. - Yo, we get in, we get out.
17 00:00:40,729 00:00:42,796 Easy score. Easy score.
18 00:00:42,864 00:00:44,665 Come on, man. Come on, man.
19 00:00:44,733 00:00:46,901 - Okay, baby. - Yo, angel, let's bounce, man. - Okay, baby. - Yo, angel, let's bounce, man.
20 00:00:46,968 00:00:49,303 - I got to go. - I got to go.
21 00:00:49,371 00:00:53,107 Te amo mucho. Te amo mucho.
22 00:00:58,547 00:01:00,314 - A citizen flagged down a sector car. - A citizen flagged down a sector car.
23 00:01:00,382 00:01:03,317 Looks like an armed robbery that went south. Looks like an armed robbery that went south.
24 00:01:03,385 00:01:04,752 - Stickup in broad daylight? - Stickup in broad daylight?
25 00:01:04,819 00:01:07,021 That's pretty bold, even for this neighborhood. That's pretty bold, even for this neighborhood.
26 00:01:07,088 00:01:09,356 - The two d.O.A.S are the robbers. - The two d.O.A.S are the robbers.
27 00:01:09,424 00:01:11,659 - Yeah. They asked for money. - Yeah. They asked for money.
28 00:01:11,726 00:01:13,928 One guy starts a beat-down on the employee. One guy starts a beat-down on the employee.
29 00:01:13,995 00:01:16,363 - Must be this one with the blood on his knuckles - Must be this one with the blood on his knuckles
30 00:01:16,431 00:01:18,032 And the nine next to his hand. And the nine next to his hand.
31 00:01:18,099 00:01:20,634 - The owner pulls a scattergun out from under the counter, - The owner pulls a scattergun out from under the counter,
32 00:01:20,702 00:01:21,769 Takes them all out. Takes them all out.
33 00:01:21,836 00:01:25,372 - What, the old guy? The accountant? - What, the old guy? The accountant?
34 00:01:25,440 00:01:26,674 - Stan harkavy. - Stan harkavy.
35 00:01:26,741 00:01:28,209 Could've used a few more like him Could've used a few more like him
36 00:01:28,276 00:01:29,843 On patrol in kandahar. On patrol in kandahar.
37 00:01:29,911 00:01:33,514 - Remington pump. - Remington pump.
38 00:01:33,582 00:01:36,250 Don't mess with grandpa. Don't mess with grandpa.
39 00:01:38,086 00:01:40,421 - Mr. Harkavy, - Mr. Harkavy,
40 00:01:40,488 00:01:42,723 I'm detective kevin bernard. I'm detective kevin bernard.
41 00:01:42,791 00:01:45,359 How are you doing, sir? How are you doing, sir?
42 00:01:47,128 00:01:49,997 - They wouldn't leave. - They wouldn't leave.
43 00:01:50,065 00:01:52,399 I didn't want to do it. I didn't want to do it.
44 00:01:52,467 00:01:53,856 I didn't want to kill anybody. I didn't want to kill anybody.
45 00:01:57,274 00:02:04,554 Sync by ReHelen Sync by ReHelen
46 00:02:04,554 00:02:11,542 www.addic7ed.com www.addic7ed.com
47 00:02:44,573 00:02:46,408 - Gregory and I started to close up. - Gregory and I started to close up.
48 00:02:46,475 00:02:48,543 Three kids bust in. Three kids bust in.
49 00:02:48,611 00:02:50,578 One of them had a gun out, waving it around. One of them had a gun out, waving it around.
50 00:02:50,646 00:02:52,614 - You ever see any of them before? - You ever see any of them before?
51 00:02:52,682 00:02:53,782 - No, never! - No, never!
52 00:02:53,849 00:02:56,351 They yelled at me to give up my money. They yelled at me to give up my money.
53 00:02:56,419 00:02:59,087 There was only $30 in my cash box. There was only $30 in my cash box.
54 00:02:59,155 00:03:02,323 I said they were wasting their time. I said they were wasting their time.
55 00:03:02,391 00:03:03,591 The one with the gun The one with the gun
56 00:03:03,659 00:03:06,094 Started to hit gregory, my helper, Started to hit gregory, my helper,
57 00:03:06,162 00:03:07,829 Kicking him in the face. Kicking him in the face.
58 00:03:07,897 00:03:10,932 I thought, "this is it. I thought, "this is it.
59 00:03:11,000 00:03:12,400 We're both dead." We're both dead."
60 00:03:12,468 00:03:14,469 - What happened then? - What happened then?
61 00:03:14,537 00:03:17,305 - Well, the guy kept hitting gregory. - Well, the guy kept hitting gregory.
62 00:03:17,373 00:03:20,341 Gregory-- he's like a son to me. Gregory-- he's like a son to me.
63 00:03:20,409 00:03:21,576 I had to do something. I had to do something.
64 00:03:21,644 00:03:23,344 - Who did you shoot first? - Who did you shoot first?
65 00:03:23,412 00:03:25,280 - I'm not sure. - I'm not sure.
66 00:03:25,347 00:03:28,183 - Okay, what did they do - Okay, what did they do
67 00:03:28,250 00:03:29,784 Once you started firing? Once you started firing?
68 00:03:29,852 00:03:32,754 - I don't know. - I don't know.
69 00:03:32,822 00:03:33,822 It was so fast. It was so fast.
70 00:03:33,889 00:03:34,923 I just kept shooting I just kept shooting
71 00:03:34,990 00:03:36,925 Until they were all on the floor. Until they were all on the floor.
72 00:03:36,992 00:03:39,127 - You ever use that gun before? - No. - You ever use that gun before? - No.
73 00:03:39,195 00:03:41,496 I bought it when I first started my business. I bought it when I first started my business.
74 00:03:41,564 00:03:43,531 I-I take it out only to clean it. I-I take it out only to clean it.
75 00:03:43,599 00:03:45,633 - This is your first time being robbed? - This is your first time being robbed?
76 00:03:45,701 00:03:47,402 - Yeah. - Yeah.
77 00:03:47,470 00:03:49,070 45 years... 45 years...
78 00:03:49,138 00:03:50,839 Never had any trouble. Never had any trouble.
79 00:03:50,906 00:03:52,373 I get along with everyone. I get along with everyone.
80 00:03:52,441 00:03:53,641 - With everyone? - With everyone?
81 00:03:53,709 00:03:56,578 You're one of the few white-owned businesses You're one of the few white-owned businesses
82 00:03:56,645 00:03:57,946 In that neighborhood. In that neighborhood.
83 00:03:58,013 00:03:59,647 You never had an issue? You never had an issue?
84 00:03:59,715 00:04:01,649 - I'm no racist. - I'm no racist.
85 00:04:01,717 00:04:04,486 Brown, black, purple--people got to have their taxes done. Brown, black, purple--people got to have their taxes done.
86 00:04:04,553 00:04:06,254 - You never had trouble, - You never had trouble,
87 00:04:06,322 00:04:08,189 Why'd you buy the gun in the first place? Why'd you buy the gun in the first place?
88 00:04:08,257 00:04:11,426 - When we first opened, we stayed open late. - When we first opened, we stayed open late.
89 00:04:11,494 00:04:14,028 Evelyn, my wife, god rest her soul, Evelyn, my wife, god rest her soul,
90 00:04:14,096 00:04:15,497 Thought we needed protection. Thought we needed protection.
91 00:04:15,564 00:04:18,933 Today was the first time I ever had to use it. Today was the first time I ever had to use it.
92 00:04:20,530 00:04:24,533 All this for $30? All this for $30?
93 00:04:27,826 00:04:28,996 - They were all yelling, "where is it? Where is it?" - They were all yelling, "where is it? Where is it?"
94 00:04:28,996 00:04:29,474 - The money? - The money?
95 00:04:29,474 00:04:30,540 - Then stan said, "we only got $30," - Then stan said, "we only got $30,"
96 00:04:30,608 00:04:31,541 But they wouldn't listen. But they wouldn't listen.
97 00:04:31,609 00:04:32,542 Then the one with the gun-- Then the one with the gun--
98 00:04:32,610 00:04:33,577 He starts kicking me in the face. He starts kicking me in the face.
99 00:04:33,644 00:04:34,845 - And what did mr. Harkavy do? - And what did mr. Harkavy do?
100 00:04:34,912 00:04:36,446 - He yelled at them to leave me alone, - He yelled at them to leave me alone,
101 00:04:36,514 00:04:37,881 But the guy just kept hitting me. But the guy just kept hitting me.
102 00:04:37,949 00:04:41,284 And then I didn't see exactly, but I heard these booms. And then I didn't see exactly, but I heard these booms.
103 00:04:41,352 00:04:42,886 It was stan shooting these punks. It was stan shooting these punks.
104 00:04:42,954 00:04:45,322 - So it was just boom, boom, boom, boom, - So it was just boom, boom, boom, boom,
105 00:04:45,389 00:04:46,690 No breaks between shots? No breaks between shots?
106 00:04:46,757 00:04:48,992 - I don't know. Stan just did what he had to do. - I don't know. Stan just did what he had to do.
107 00:04:49,060 00:04:50,360 I thought they were gonna kill us both. I thought they were gonna kill us both.
108 00:04:50,428 00:04:52,162 - Had these guys ever been in your office before? - Had these guys ever been in your office before?
109 00:04:52,230 00:04:54,431 - Nah, I never seen them before. - Nah, I never seen them before.
110 00:04:54,499 00:04:56,833 - How does stan get along with the people in the neighborhood? - How does stan get along with the people in the neighborhood?
111 00:04:56,901 00:04:58,068 - Fine. - Fine.
112 00:04:58,136 00:05:01,204 He's honest, treats people decent. He's honest, treats people decent.
113 00:05:01,272 00:05:03,073 - You sure? - You sure?
114 00:05:03,141 00:05:05,642 He showed us some attitude about hispanic people. He showed us some attitude about hispanic people.
115 00:05:05,710 00:05:07,110 - Stan? - Stan?
116 00:05:07,178 00:05:11,081 I been with him three years, never heard that. I been with him three years, never heard that.
117 00:05:12,917 00:05:14,451 - You run with a gang, gregory? - You run with a gang, gregory?
118 00:05:14,519 00:05:15,685 - No, man, that's japanese. - No, man, that's japanese.
119 00:05:15,753 00:05:17,254 - It's ken zen ichi nyo. - It's ken zen ichi nyo.
120 00:05:17,321 00:05:18,755 The fist and zen are one. The fist and zen are one.
121 00:05:18,823 00:05:20,056 You're into martial arts. You're into martial arts.
122 00:05:20,124 00:05:21,658 - Nidan. - Nidan.
123 00:05:21,726 00:05:23,627 Second-degree black belt in karate. Second-degree black belt in karate.
124 00:05:23,694 00:05:26,596 a lot of good it did. a lot of good it did.
125 00:05:26,664 00:05:29,933 When I saw that gun, I froze. When I saw that gun, I froze.
126 00:05:30,001 00:05:33,036 Stan saved my life. Stan saved my life.
127 00:05:33,104 00:05:34,671 - Stan and gregory corroborate each other - Stan and gregory corroborate each other
128 00:05:34,739 00:05:35,906 On the sequence of events. On the sequence of events.
129 00:05:35,973 00:05:37,941 It looks like the beat-down set it off. It looks like the beat-down set it off.
130 00:05:38,009 00:05:39,709 - And the deceased have priors. - And the deceased have priors.
131 00:05:39,777 00:05:41,978 Duane jefferson, bank robbery. Duane jefferson, bank robbery.
132 00:05:42,046 00:05:44,814 Pierre hobbs, carjacking, assault, cpw. Pierre hobbs, carjacking, assault, cpw.
133 00:05:44,882 00:05:45,882 - The third accomplice, - The third accomplice,
134 00:05:45,950 00:05:48,118 The one who survived, angel colon-- The one who survived, angel colon--
135 00:05:48,186 00:05:51,922 No record, and he's an applicant to be a corrections officer. No record, and he's an applicant to be a corrections officer.
136 00:05:51,989 00:05:55,058 It seems like a big step from there to armed robbery. It seems like a big step from there to armed robbery.
137 00:05:55,126 00:05:56,927 - Maybe he was building up his resume. - Maybe he was building up his resume.
138 00:05:56,994 00:05:59,062 - Well, we'll charge him as soon as he gets out of surgery. - Well, we'll charge him as soon as he gets out of surgery.
139 00:05:59,130 00:06:00,430 As for stan harkavy, As for stan harkavy,
140 00:06:00,498 00:06:02,399 It seems like textbook justification-- It seems like textbook justification--
141 00:06:02,466 00:06:03,733 No charges. No charges.
142 00:06:03,801 00:06:06,069 - What about his unregistered shotgun? - What about his unregistered shotgun?
143 00:06:06,137 00:06:07,571 - Well, I doubt anyone in my office - Well, I doubt anyone in my office
144 00:06:07,638 00:06:09,239 Is gonna want to pursue a misdemeanor Is gonna want to pursue a misdemeanor
145 00:06:09,307 00:06:10,941 Against a 70-year-old hero Against a 70-year-old hero
146 00:06:11,008 00:06:13,310 Who just saved his employee's life. Who just saved his employee's life.
147 00:06:15,146 00:06:16,413 - Guy kills two people, - Guy kills two people,
148 00:06:16,480 00:06:18,114 And he just walks out of here like nothing happened? And he just walks out of here like nothing happened?
149 00:06:18,182 00:06:20,083 - I get the feeling he's gonna remember - I get the feeling he's gonna remember
150 00:06:20,151 00:06:21,718 Every day what happened. Every day what happened.
151 00:06:21,786 00:06:23,753 - Two do-ers with serious priors - Two do-ers with serious priors
152 00:06:23,821 00:06:25,655 Target a storefront tax service. Target a storefront tax service.
153 00:06:25,723 00:06:28,758 They'd have to know that there'd be slim pickings. They'd have to know that there'd be slim pickings.
154 00:06:28,826 00:06:30,427 - Maybe they thought it was an easy mark. - Maybe they thought it was an easy mark.
155 00:06:30,494 00:06:33,930 - And this boy who wanted to be a corrections officer... - And this boy who wanted to be a corrections officer...
156 00:06:33,998 00:06:35,565 Send mr. Harkavy home Send mr. Harkavy home
157 00:06:35,633 00:06:37,901 And then talk to angel colon's people. And then talk to angel colon's people.
158 00:06:37,969 00:06:41,605 Find out how he got mixed up with these thugs. Find out how he got mixed up with these thugs.
159 00:06:41,672 00:06:43,473 - I can leave? - For now. - I can leave? - For now.
160 00:06:43,541 00:06:45,709 The d.A. May have more questions. The d.A. May have more questions.
161 00:06:45,776 00:06:46,776 Just don't leave town. Just don't leave town.
162 00:06:46,844 00:06:48,445 - Where else am I gonna go? - Where else am I gonna go?
163 00:06:48,512 00:06:49,879 I got blood on me. I got blood on me.
164 00:06:49,947 00:06:52,315 - Go home. Take a shower. - Go home. Take a shower.
165 00:06:52,383 00:06:54,217 - Well, how's the kid who went in the ambulance? - Well, how's the kid who went in the ambulance?
166 00:06:54,285 00:06:55,552 - He's still in surgery. - He's still in surgery.
167 00:06:55,620 00:06:56,987 - He gonna make it? - He gonna make it?
168 00:07:00,858 00:07:03,093 I hope he pulls through. I hope he pulls through.
169 00:07:03,160 00:07:04,828 I didn't think they'd all die. I didn't think they'd all die.
170 00:07:04,895 00:07:07,130 - Yeah, there are gonna be a lot of reporters outside. - Yeah, there are gonna be a lot of reporters outside.
171 00:07:07,198 00:07:08,932 You have anyone that can come pick you up? You have anyone that can come pick you up?
172 00:07:09,000 00:07:10,467 - My son's in california. - My son's in california.
173 00:07:10,534 00:07:12,502 I don't want to talk to any reporters. I don't want to talk to any reporters.
174 00:07:12,570 00:07:13,937 - I can put you in the cab. - I can put you in the cab.
175 00:07:14,005 00:07:15,438 We can use the back door. We can use the back door.
176 00:07:15,506 00:07:16,539 You got fare? You got fare?
177 00:07:16,607 00:07:19,476 - Yeah. Thanks for sneaking me out. - Yeah. Thanks for sneaking me out.
178 00:07:19,543 00:07:23,113 - Don't be surprised when the reporters show up at your door. - Don't be surprised when the reporters show up at your door.
179 00:07:23,180 00:07:25,448 - When my wife died, - When my wife died,
180 00:07:25,516 00:07:28,451 I thought that was the worst day of my life. I thought that was the worst day of my life.
181 00:07:28,519 00:07:31,921 - Yeah, I know this can be hard for you, mr. Harkavy, - Yeah, I know this can be hard for you, mr. Harkavy,
182 00:07:31,989 00:07:36,285 But if you ever need anyone to talk to, call me... But if you ever need anyone to talk to, call me...
183 00:07:36,285 00:07:37,898 Night or day. Night or day.
184 00:07:51,942 00:07:53,443 - I've never seen these two before. - I've never seen these two before.
185 00:07:53,511 00:07:56,646 They're not friends of my son. They're not friends of my son.
186 00:07:56,714 00:07:58,648 Angel's a good boy. Angel's a good boy.
187 00:07:58,716 00:08:01,184 He was even trying to get a job with the city. He was even trying to get a job with the city.
188 00:08:01,252 00:08:03,720 - Any idea why he would participate in a robbery? - Any idea why he would participate in a robbery?
189 00:08:03,788 00:08:04,788 - You don't know that he did! - You don't know that he did!
190 00:08:04,855 00:08:06,456 Maybe he was there for a good reason! Maybe he was there for a good reason!
191 00:08:13,464 00:08:16,566 He was waiting for that job... He was waiting for that job...
192 00:08:16,634 00:08:19,402 But he was talking about getting a bigger place. But he was talking about getting a bigger place.
193 00:08:19,470 00:08:21,805 - A bigger apartment? - A bigger apartment?
194 00:08:21,872 00:08:23,006 He have a girl? He have a girl?
195 00:08:23,074 00:08:25,875 - He'd go out at night. - He'd go out at night.
196 00:08:25,943 00:08:27,944 Sometimes he wouldn't come home. Sometimes he wouldn't come home.
197 00:08:28,012 00:08:29,412 I didn't ask. I didn't ask.
198 00:08:29,480 00:08:31,748 What's gonna happen to him if he pulls through? What's gonna happen to him if he pulls through?
199 00:08:31,816 00:08:33,416 - There'll probably be charges. - There'll probably be charges.
200 00:08:33,484 00:08:35,018 Is that angel? Is that angel?
201 00:08:35,086 00:08:36,786 Is he a black belt? Is he a black belt?
202 00:08:39,056 00:08:40,523 - Nidan, second-degree. - Nidan, second-degree.
203 00:08:40,591 00:08:45,495 Excuse me, that might be the hospital. Excuse me, that might be the hospital.
204 00:08:45,563 00:08:48,932 - Two guys, same age, same neighborhood, - Two guys, same age, same neighborhood,
205 00:08:48,999 00:08:50,533 Both black belts. Both black belts.
206 00:08:50,601 00:08:54,070 - Way of the warrior dojo. - Way of the warrior dojo.
207 00:08:56,307 00:08:58,708 Hyah! Hyah!
208 00:08:58,776 00:08:59,843 - Gregory and angel-- - Gregory and angel--
209 00:08:59,910 00:09:02,379 They took night classes a couple years back. They took night classes a couple years back.
210 00:09:03,514 00:09:05,181 - They were friends? - They were friends?
211 00:09:05,249 00:09:06,583 - I thought so. - I thought so.
212 00:09:06,650 00:09:08,818 Then one night they were paired up for a sparring exercise. Then one night they were paired up for a sparring exercise.
213 00:09:08,886 00:09:10,353 It turned into a street fight. It turned into a street fight.
214 00:09:10,421 00:09:12,455 I had to pull them apart. I had to pull them apart.
215 00:09:12,523 00:09:14,758 - what was it about? - what was it about?
216 00:09:14,825 00:09:16,826 - I didn't care to ask. - I didn't care to ask.
217 00:09:16,894 00:09:18,461 I don't tolerate that. I don't tolerate that.
218 00:09:18,529 00:09:20,363 I told them not to come back. I told them not to come back.
219 00:09:20,431 00:09:22,699 Karate is about maintaining control. Karate is about maintaining control.
220 00:09:22,767 00:09:24,868 Excuse me. - Sure. Excuse me. - Sure.
221 00:09:24,935 00:09:27,971 So gregory lied to us. That's not very zen of him. So gregory lied to us. That's not very zen of him.
222 00:09:29,473 00:09:30,874 Hyah! Hyah!
223 00:09:30,941 00:09:33,309 - That was angel colon robbing us? - That was angel colon robbing us?
224 00:09:33,377 00:09:35,712 I didn't recognize him with the hood and shades, I didn't recognize him with the hood and shades,
225 00:09:35,780 00:09:38,081 And I never figured he'd end up running with a stickup crew. And I never figured he'd end up running with a stickup crew.
226 00:09:38,149 00:09:39,649 - We heard you had a fight at your dojo. - We heard you had a fight at your dojo.
227 00:09:39,717 00:09:42,919 - Yeah, it was about this girl, alicia rodriguez. - Yeah, it was about this girl, alicia rodriguez.
228 00:09:42,987 00:09:44,921 She left me to hook up with angel. She left me to hook up with angel.
229 00:09:44,989 00:09:46,256 I got past it. I got past it.
230 00:09:46,323 00:09:48,792 - Is that what angel's gonna say when he wakes up? - Is that what angel's gonna say when he wakes up?
231 00:09:48,859 00:09:50,427 - What are you talking about? - What are you talking about?
232 00:09:50,494 00:09:52,562 - It's not hard to imagine you being the inside man - It's not hard to imagine you being the inside man
233 00:09:52,630 00:09:53,763 On this robbery. On this robbery.
234 00:09:53,831 00:09:55,432 - Inside man? - Inside man?
235 00:09:55,499 00:09:58,168 Look at my face. Those dudes were gonna kill us. Look at my face. Those dudes were gonna kill us.
236 00:09:58,235 00:10:00,770 - Except for stan and his shotgun. - Except for stan and his shotgun.
237 00:10:00,838 00:10:03,339 Maybe that was your plan-- get angel killed. Maybe that was your plan-- get angel killed.
238 00:10:03,407 00:10:05,408 A little payback for taking your girl. A little payback for taking your girl.
239 00:10:05,476 00:10:07,777 - Oh, that is crazy. You ask alicia. - Oh, that is crazy. You ask alicia.
240 00:10:07,845 00:10:09,345 I saw her on the street a couple of weeks ago. I saw her on the street a couple of weeks ago.
241 00:10:09,413 00:10:11,648 She's pregnant. I told her it's all good. She's pregnant. I told her it's all good.
242 00:10:11,715 00:10:12,782 There's no hard feelings. There's no hard feelings.
243 00:10:12,850 00:10:15,018 - When you guys gonna let me open up? - When you guys gonna let me open up?
244 00:10:15,085 00:10:16,453 - It's still a crime scene. - It's still a crime scene.
245 00:10:16,520 00:10:18,288 We'll let you know when we're done processing it. We'll let you know when we're done processing it.
246 00:10:18,355 00:10:19,823 - I had to get out of my apartment. - I had to get out of my apartment.
247 00:10:19,890 00:10:21,291 The phone's driving me crazy. The phone's driving me crazy.
248 00:10:21,358 00:10:23,693 They want to take my picture, interview me. They want to take my picture, interview me.
249 00:10:23,761 00:10:26,095 - Yo, shotgun man! - Yo, shotgun man!
250 00:10:26,163 00:10:27,497 That's what I'm talking 'bout! That's what I'm talking 'bout!
251 00:10:27,565 00:10:29,466 You show 'em, baby! You show 'em, baby!
252 00:10:29,533 00:10:31,000 - I didn't ask for any of this. - I didn't ask for any of this.
253 00:10:31,068 00:10:32,836 Why can't they leave me alone? Why can't they leave me alone?
254 00:10:32,903 00:10:34,537 - Come on, stan. - Come on, stan.
255 00:10:34,605 00:10:36,439 Let's go get some arroz con pollo. Let's go get some arroz con pollo.
256 00:10:36,507 00:10:39,275 - So alicia's baby-- maybe angel's the father. - So alicia's baby-- maybe angel's the father.
257 00:10:39,343 00:10:43,046 Maybe that's why he needed a bigger apartment. Maybe that's why he needed a bigger apartment.
258 00:10:43,113 00:10:44,647 - Gregory congratulated me on the baby. - Gregory congratulated me on the baby.
259 00:10:44,715 00:10:46,082 He seemed real happy for me. He seemed real happy for me.
260 00:10:46,150 00:10:47,383 - Happy for you and angel? - Happy for you and angel?
261 00:10:47,451 00:10:49,276 - I didn't tell him angel's the father. - I didn't tell him angel's the father.
262 00:10:49,276 00:10:51,287 I didn't want gregory starting up something. I didn't want gregory starting up something.
263 00:10:51,355 00:10:53,356 - He and angel weren't on speaking terms? - He and angel weren't on speaking terms?
264 00:10:53,866 00:10:56,034 - No, but they were never friends anyway. - No, but they were never friends anyway.
265 00:10:56,101 00:10:58,536 - How did angel end up at gregory's job? - How did angel end up at gregory's job?
266 00:10:58,604 00:11:00,004 He knew where gregory worked? He knew where gregory worked?
267 00:11:00,072 00:11:01,306 - No. - No.
268 00:11:01,373 00:11:02,974 Are you gonna arrest that old man? Are you gonna arrest that old man?
269 00:11:03,042 00:11:06,811 - He was defending his business and gregory's life. - He was defending his business and gregory's life.
270 00:11:06,879 00:11:08,846 - He could've shot them in the leg. - He could've shot them in the leg.
271 00:11:08,914 00:11:10,214 Angel just wanted money Angel just wanted money
272 00:11:10,282 00:11:12,850 So he could get a better place for me and the baby. So he could get a better place for me and the baby.
273 00:11:12,918 00:11:15,219 - So he robs a place with 30 bucks in the till. - So he robs a place with 30 bucks in the till.
274 00:11:15,287 00:11:17,922 - No, angel said there were gold coins. - No, angel said there were gold coins.
275 00:11:17,990 00:11:22,026 The old man had a cigar box full of gold coins in his office. The old man had a cigar box full of gold coins in his office.
276 00:11:22,094 00:11:24,295 - Where did angel hear that? - Where did angel hear that?
277 00:11:24,363 00:11:25,730 - The guy who set it up told him. - The guy who set it up told him.
278 00:11:25,798 00:11:27,398 That's all angel was in it for. That's all angel was in it for.
279 00:11:27,466 00:11:29,934 He didn't want to hurt anybody. He didn't want to hurt anybody.
280 00:11:30,002 00:11:31,769 - Thank you, alicia. We'll be in touch. - Thank you, alicia. We'll be in touch.
281 00:11:32,972 00:11:35,106 Gold coins in a treasure box. Gold coins in a treasure box.
282 00:11:35,174 00:11:37,308 arrr. arrr.
283 00:11:37,376 00:11:38,776 - Why should I talk to you? - Why should I talk to you?
284 00:11:38,844 00:11:41,179 My mom says I'm arrested. My mom says I'm arrested.
285 00:11:41,246 00:11:43,081 - Because you have about as much chance - Because you have about as much chance
286 00:11:43,148 00:11:45,850 Of walking away from this as your accomplices. Of walking away from this as your accomplices.
287 00:11:45,918 00:11:49,687 So you might think about cooperating. So you might think about cooperating.
288 00:11:49,755 00:11:51,422 - Duane told me. - Duane told me.
289 00:11:51,490 00:11:53,257 Said the old man had krugerrands-- Said the old man had krugerrands--
290 00:11:53,325 00:11:55,693 Over a hundred grand, enough to go around. Over a hundred grand, enough to go around.
291 00:11:55,761 00:11:58,363 - How did duane know? - No idea. - How did duane know? - No idea.
292 00:11:58,430 00:12:01,699 But I told duane I used to know somebody who worked there. But I told duane I used to know somebody who worked there.
293 00:12:01,767 00:12:03,201 He would've told me if there were coins. He would've told me if there were coins.
294 00:12:03,268 00:12:05,703 - And the somebody was gregory cardenas. - And the somebody was gregory cardenas.
295 00:12:05,771 00:12:08,506 - Yeah. I didn't know he was still working there. - Yeah. I didn't know he was still working there.
296 00:12:08,574 00:12:10,341 Soon as I saw him, I wanted out. Soon as I saw him, I wanted out.
297 00:12:10,409 00:12:11,376 I just stood by the door I just stood by the door
298 00:12:11,443 00:12:13,978 And hoped he didn't recognize me. And hoped he didn't recognize me.
299 00:12:15,614 00:12:19,217 - So when you told duane there weren't any coins, - So when you told duane there weren't any coins,
300 00:12:19,284 00:12:21,386 What did he say? What did he say?
301 00:12:21,453 00:12:23,187 - He said to keep my mouth shut, - He said to keep my mouth shut,
302 00:12:23,255 00:12:24,722 Not tell pierre. Not tell pierre.
303 00:12:24,790 00:12:26,057 He said, coins or no coins, He said, coins or no coins,
304 00:12:26,125 00:12:27,558 He was gonna put money in my pocket. He was gonna put money in my pocket.
305 00:12:27,626 00:12:30,495 I didn't know what he meant, but I needed the money, I didn't know what he meant, but I needed the money,
306 00:12:30,562 00:12:32,397 So I went along. So I went along.
307 00:12:32,464 00:12:35,199 Nurse! Can I get some painkillers, please? Nurse! Can I get some painkillers, please?
308 00:12:45,244 00:12:49,013 - Money or not, duane jefferson was walking into that store. - Money or not, duane jefferson was walking into that store.
309 00:12:49,081 00:12:51,516 - Hmm, so the gold coins might have just been a story - Hmm, so the gold coins might have just been a story
310 00:12:51,583 00:12:53,484 To get his crew to go along. To get his crew to go along.
311 00:12:53,552 00:12:55,620 - Well, if duane wasn't in it for the money, - Well, if duane wasn't in it for the money,
312 00:12:55,687 00:12:59,190 I'd like to know why he and his friend died. I'd like to know why he and his friend died.
313 00:13:05,455 00:13:07,089 - Krugerrands? I don't have any gold. - Krugerrands? I don't have any gold.
314 00:13:07,157 00:13:08,457 You can search the office. You can search the office.
315 00:13:08,525 00:13:09,825 - oh, we did. - oh, we did.
316 00:13:09,893 00:13:11,127 - Hello? - Hello?
317 00:13:13,797 00:13:16,732 No comment, and don't call back. No comment, and don't call back.
318 00:13:16,800 00:13:18,067 A reporter-- A reporter--
319 00:13:18,135 00:13:20,569 She wanted to know if the police gave me back my shotgun. She wanted to know if the police gave me back my shotgun.
320 00:13:20,637 00:13:22,505 - All right, mr. Harkavy. - All right, mr. Harkavy.
321 00:13:22,572 00:13:23,739 - Stan. - Stan.
322 00:13:23,807 00:13:26,942 - Okay, stan... - Okay, stan...
323 00:13:27,010 00:13:29,011 Take a look at this picture again. Take a look at this picture again.
324 00:13:29,079 00:13:32,966 His name is duane jefferson. Now, are you sure His name is duane jefferson. Now, are you sure
325 00:13:32,966 00:13:34,247 You never saw him? You never saw him?
326 00:13:34,247 00:13:35,212 - I'm sure. - I'm sure.
327 00:13:35,212 00:13:36,678 - Can you think of anyone - Can you think of anyone
328 00:13:36,678 00:13:37,759 Who might have wanted to hurt you? Who might have wanted to hurt you?
329 00:13:37,759 00:13:39,612 - Yeah, the three guys I shot. - Yeah, the three guys I shot.
330 00:13:45,158 00:13:46,391 - Yeah? - Yeah?
331 00:13:46,459 00:13:48,927 - Stan has been living above his office - Stan has been living above his office
332 00:13:48,995 00:13:50,262 For the past 30 years. For the past 30 years.
333 00:13:50,330 00:13:51,797 He owns the building. He owns the building.
334 00:13:51,864 00:13:54,933 Besides a few grand in an I.R.A., that's it. Besides a few grand in an I.R.A., that's it.
335 00:13:55,001 00:13:57,035 - Nothing in the back room or the apartment-- - Nothing in the back room or the apartment--
336 00:13:57,103 00:13:59,071 No safe, no krugerrands. No safe, no krugerrands.
337 00:13:59,138 00:14:01,440 - Maybe it was just neighborhood folklore. - Maybe it was just neighborhood folklore.
338 00:14:01,507 00:14:03,642 Yeah, yes, I'm still holding. Yeah, yes, I'm still holding.
339 00:14:05,178 00:14:08,213 Well, when can dr. Knight call me back? Well, when can dr. Knight call me back?
340 00:14:08,281 00:14:11,116 Thank you. Thank you.
341 00:14:11,184 00:14:13,018 What? What?
342 00:14:13,086 00:14:16,088 Yeah. You have a nice day too. Yeah. You have a nice day too.
343 00:14:16,155 00:14:20,459 Um, duane jefferson's brother claimed his body Um, duane jefferson's brother claimed his body
344 00:14:20,526 00:14:22,094 From the m.E. From the m.E.
345 00:14:22,161 00:14:23,395 Here... Here...
346 00:14:23,463 00:14:25,630 Maybe he knows what his brother was really after. Maybe he knows what his brother was really after.
347 00:14:25,698 00:14:27,966 - Okay. - Okay.
348 00:14:37,710 00:14:41,713 - Sorry for your loss, mr. Jefferson. - Sorry for your loss, mr. Jefferson.
349 00:14:43,149 00:14:45,250 I'm not. I'm not.
350 00:14:45,318 00:14:47,953 The only time duane ever called me was to bail him out. The only time duane ever called me was to bail him out.
351 00:14:48,020 00:14:49,388 - So you two weren't close? - So you two weren't close?
352 00:14:49,455 00:14:53,492 - Not since he sold my bike to buy drugs in sixth grade. - Not since he sold my bike to buy drugs in sixth grade.
353 00:14:53,559 00:14:55,927 - We'd like to know why he targeted that place. - We'd like to know why he targeted that place.
354 00:14:55,995 00:14:57,863 - Just like duane. - Just like duane.
355 00:14:57,930 00:14:59,831 I read in the papers there was 30 bucks there. I read in the papers there was 30 bucks there.
356 00:14:59,899 00:15:01,433 - Can you think of any other reason - Can you think of any other reason
357 00:15:01,501 00:15:03,535 Why he was interested in that office? Why he was interested in that office?
358 00:15:03,603 00:15:06,938 - Like I explained, we didn't talk. - Like I explained, we didn't talk.
359 00:15:07,006 00:15:08,940 - Anybody here he did talk to? - Anybody here he did talk to?
360 00:15:09,008 00:15:11,176 - Those two ladies-- man, they wandered over - Those two ladies-- man, they wandered over
361 00:15:11,244 00:15:12,511 From the wake next door. From the wake next door.
362 00:15:12,578 00:15:15,013 - Any idea where duane hung out? - Any idea where duane hung out?
363 00:15:15,081 00:15:18,283 - Well, he worked the door at this after-hours poker club - Well, he worked the door at this after-hours poker club
364 00:15:18,351 00:15:19,851 On, uh, west 35th. On, uh, west 35th.
365 00:15:19,919 00:15:21,686 Last time I saw him, he wanted me to meet him Last time I saw him, he wanted me to meet him
366 00:15:21,754 00:15:23,288 Outside this diner down the street. Outside this diner down the street.
367 00:15:23,356 00:15:25,090 He was gonna pay me back money he owed me. He was gonna pay me back money he owed me.
368 00:15:25,158 00:15:26,625 - How much money? - How much money?
369 00:15:26,692 00:15:27,893 - A thousand dollars. - A thousand dollars.
370 00:15:27,960 00:15:30,328 - He was flashing cash, rocking a new leather coat. - He was flashing cash, rocking a new leather coat.
371 00:15:30,396 00:15:32,764 - The leather coat he's wearing now? - The leather coat he's wearing now?
372 00:15:32,832 00:15:34,766 - Yeah, that one. - Yeah, that one.
373 00:15:34,834 00:15:36,902 - That's a real nice coat. - That's a real nice coat.
374 00:15:36,969 00:15:39,404 Where did his good fortune come from? Where did his good fortune come from?
375 00:15:39,472 00:15:41,173 - There was this white kid - There was this white kid
376 00:15:41,240 00:15:42,407 Sitting in the diner-- Sitting in the diner--
377 00:15:42,475 00:15:44,042 Shaggy hair and an earring. Shaggy hair and an earring.
378 00:15:44,110 00:15:47,512 Duane said this kid, max, Duane said this kid, max,
379 00:15:47,580 00:15:49,881 Was a regular at the poker spot. Was a regular at the poker spot.
380 00:15:49,949 00:15:51,850 Said he was gonna set him up on a score. Said he was gonna set him up on a score.
381 00:15:51,918 00:15:54,453 I told duane, "whatever. Good luck." I told duane, "whatever. Good luck."
382 00:16:06,232 00:16:08,433 - Yo, player! - Yo, player!
383 00:16:08,501 00:16:10,435 Let's see some I.D. - What'd I do? Let's see some I.D. - What'd I do?
384 00:16:10,503 00:16:12,037 - For starters, you're patronizing - For starters, you're patronizing
385 00:16:12,104 00:16:13,638 An illegal gambling operation. An illegal gambling operation.
386 00:16:13,706 00:16:16,174 - You're kidding me. - Let's see that I.D. - You're kidding me. - Let's see that I.D.
387 00:16:19,879 00:16:22,080 - We have a winner-- max purcell. - We have a winner-- max purcell.
388 00:16:22,148 00:16:25,083 - Oh, just the man we're looking for. - Oh, just the man we're looking for.
389 00:16:25,151 00:16:27,752 We'd like to talk to you about duane jefferson. We'd like to talk to you about duane jefferson.
390 00:16:27,820 00:16:29,921 - Who? - Who?
391 00:16:29,989 00:16:32,290 No. Sorry. No. Sorry.
392 00:16:32,358 00:16:33,558 - Don't be stupid. - Don't be stupid.
393 00:16:33,626 00:16:34,926 We have a witness who saw you with him We have a witness who saw you with him
394 00:16:34,994 00:16:36,261 In the diner down the street. In the diner down the street.
395 00:16:36,329 00:16:40,031 - Okay, so I talked to him. - Okay, so I talked to him.
396 00:16:40,099 00:16:42,434 - So what did you and duane talk about? - So what did you and duane talk about?
397 00:16:42,502 00:16:44,236 - Well, the cards weren't going my way. - Well, the cards weren't going my way.
398 00:16:44,303 00:16:46,438 Guy with hole aces sitting on the nuts Guy with hole aces sitting on the nuts
399 00:16:46,506 00:16:47,939 Burned me for eight grand. Burned me for eight grand.
400 00:16:48,007 00:16:49,908 Duane fronted me a loan. Duane fronted me a loan.
401 00:16:49,976 00:16:51,943 - He was playing loan shark? - He was playing loan shark?
402 00:16:52,011 00:16:54,246 - He was working for one. Got me $8,000. - He was working for one. Got me $8,000.
403 00:16:54,313 00:16:55,847 The vig was one point a week. The vig was one point a week.
404 00:16:55,915 00:16:58,717 I paid him back a few days before he got killed. I paid him back a few days before he got killed.
405 00:16:58,784 00:17:03,355 Dudes, I swear, I'm just a guy who really sucks at poker. Dudes, I swear, I'm just a guy who really sucks at poker.
406 00:17:03,422 00:17:04,956 - His name's max purcell. - His name's max purcell.
407 00:17:05,024 00:17:06,791 He's a trust-fund brat. His parents are deceased. He's a trust-fund brat. His parents are deceased.
408 00:17:06,859 00:17:08,760 He lives in their apartment on fifth avenue. He lives in their apartment on fifth avenue.
409 00:17:08,828 00:17:11,029 - And what's the connection between max and the accountant? - And what's the connection between max and the accountant?
410 00:17:11,097 00:17:12,097 - None we could find. - None we could find.
411 00:17:12,164 00:17:14,399 - Van buren. - Van buren.
412 00:17:14,467 00:17:18,803 Uh, yes, I've been waiting for a call. Uh, yes, I've been waiting for a call.
413 00:17:18,871 00:17:21,973 She's not available now? She's not available now?
414 00:17:22,041 00:17:23,208 Hold on. Hold on.
415 00:17:23,276 00:17:25,744 - Stan harkavy, marked urgent. - Stan harkavy, marked urgent.
416 00:17:25,811 00:17:28,046 - Go. - Go.
417 00:17:30,349 00:17:33,118 She'll have my test results? She'll have my test results?
418 00:17:33,185 00:17:35,720 All right. All right.
419 00:17:35,788 00:17:37,155 Thank you. Thank you.
420 00:17:37,223 00:17:40,225 Have a nice day. Have a nice day.
421 00:17:43,129 00:17:46,464 I'll have a nice day when I'm cured. I'll have a nice day when I'm cured.
422 00:17:46,532 00:17:48,567 - This old guy shows up, says he's got flowers - This old guy shows up, says he's got flowers
423 00:17:48,634 00:17:49,568 For angel colon. For angel colon.
424 00:17:49,635 00:17:51,469 The mother freaked out. The mother freaked out.
425 00:17:51,537 00:17:53,171 - He shot my baby! - He shot my baby!
426 00:17:53,239 00:17:54,306 - Whoa, whoa, whoa. - Whoa, whoa, whoa.
427 00:17:54,373 00:17:55,574 - I came here to see how he's doing. - I came here to see how he's doing.
428 00:17:55,641 00:17:57,542 - Get out of here! - Get him out of here. - Get out of here! - Get him out of here.
429 00:17:57,610 00:17:58,577 - Let's get a beer. - Let's get a beer.
430 00:17:58,644 00:18:00,078 - I just want to say I'm sorry. - I just want to say I'm sorry.
431 00:18:00,146 00:18:03,081 - Get out of here! You shot my baby! - Get out of here! You shot my baby!
432 00:18:03,149 00:18:04,082 Get off me! Get off me!
433 00:18:04,150 00:18:05,750 He shot my baby! He shot my baby!
434 00:18:05,818 00:18:08,486 He shot my baby! He shot my baby!
435 00:18:08,554 00:18:12,257 - I worked in that neighborhood 45 years, - I worked in that neighborhood 45 years,
436 00:18:12,325 00:18:15,694 Got along with everybody. Got along with everybody.
437 00:18:15,761 00:18:17,729 - Just stay away from the hospital. - Just stay away from the hospital.
438 00:18:17,797 00:18:20,265 - I wanted to show them I'm not a monster. - I wanted to show them I'm not a monster.
439 00:18:20,333 00:18:22,000 - I know. - I know.
440 00:18:25,204 00:18:28,106 There was this old guy in my neighborhood There was this old guy in my neighborhood
441 00:18:28,174 00:18:29,774 Where I grew up. Where I grew up.
442 00:18:29,842 00:18:33,612 Mr. Miwa-- he was japanese. Mr. Miwa-- he was japanese.
443 00:18:33,679 00:18:36,448 Owned a bodega on crenshaw for 30 years. Owned a bodega on crenshaw for 30 years.
444 00:18:36,515 00:18:39,250 He would pay me 20 bucks a week to sweep the store every day. He would pay me 20 bucks a week to sweep the store every day.
445 00:18:39,318 00:18:42,220 - Kept you off the streets. - He looked out for us. - Kept you off the streets. - He looked out for us.
446 00:18:42,288 00:18:43,622 Let my mom run up a tab Let my mom run up a tab
447 00:18:43,689 00:18:45,223 When she was low on cash. When she was low on cash.
448 00:18:45,291 00:18:47,392 - That's what makes a neighborhood-- - That's what makes a neighborhood--
449 00:18:47,460 00:18:48,693 People looking out. People looking out.
450 00:18:48,761 00:18:51,196 - You'll get that back. - You'll get that back.
451 00:18:52,865 00:18:56,501 - This--this whole megillah, it's--it's too much. - This--this whole megillah, it's--it's too much.
452 00:18:56,569 00:19:00,572 I get a call yesterday-- councilman's office. I get a call yesterday-- councilman's office.
453 00:19:00,640 00:19:02,974 They want to give me an award. They want to give me an award.
454 00:19:03,042 00:19:06,011 I don't think that I'm a hero. I don't think that I'm a hero.
455 00:19:06,078 00:19:08,380 I don't know if I can walk back into that office. I don't know if I can walk back into that office.
456 00:19:08,447 00:19:10,248 - Hey, stan. - Hey, stan.
457 00:19:10,316 00:19:11,683 You ready to go? You ready to go?
458 00:19:11,751 00:19:13,485 - What about retiring? - What about retiring?
459 00:19:13,552 00:19:14,753 Neighborhood's gentrifying. Neighborhood's gentrifying.
460 00:19:14,820 00:19:16,688 You know, you could get a good deal. You know, you could get a good deal.
461 00:19:16,756 00:19:18,356 - I don't know about that. - I don't know about that.
462 00:19:18,424 00:19:19,724 - No, he's right, stan. - No, he's right, stan.
463 00:19:19,792 00:19:21,593 You're sitting on the nuts. You're sitting on the nuts.
464 00:19:21,661 00:19:24,429 - You play poker? - You play poker?
465 00:19:24,497 00:19:26,431 That expression? That expression?
466 00:19:26,499 00:19:27,966 - Oh, some guy said that, - Oh, some guy said that,
467 00:19:28,034 00:19:29,601 Came into the office a few weeks ago. Came into the office a few weeks ago.
468 00:19:29,669 00:19:31,569 Stan, you remember, he wanted to buy the place. Stan, you remember, he wanted to buy the place.
469 00:19:31,637 00:19:33,705 - Oh, yeah, that punk. - Oh, yeah, that punk.
470 00:19:33,773 00:19:35,840 - He offered to buy your store? - He was full of crap. - He offered to buy your store? - He was full of crap.
471 00:19:35,908 00:19:37,909 He looked like a drug addict. He looked like a drug addict.
472 00:19:37,977 00:19:40,412 - Did he leave a name? - Max. - Did he leave a name? - Max.
473 00:19:40,479 00:19:43,448 He had a crazy haircut, silver earring. He had a crazy haircut, silver earring.
474 00:19:43,516 00:19:45,517 - Thanks. - Thanks.
475 00:19:48,020 00:19:51,623 It wasn't a robbery. It was a shakedown. It wasn't a robbery. It was a shakedown.
476 00:19:51,691 00:19:54,793 Max purcell sent duane in to scare stan Max purcell sent duane in to scare stan
477 00:19:54,860 00:19:57,028 Into selling his place. Into selling his place.
478 00:19:59,699 00:20:02,200 - I don't know how much ballet I can take, grandpa. - I don't know how much ballet I can take, grandpa.
479 00:20:02,268 00:20:03,735 So if I cut out early... So if I cut out early...
480 00:20:03,803 00:20:05,136 - Oh, you better not. - Oh, you better not.
481 00:20:05,204 00:20:08,306 Our family's been paying for tutus and codpieces Our family's been paying for tutus and codpieces
482 00:20:08,374 00:20:09,474 For 30 years. For 30 years.
483 00:20:09,542 00:20:11,443 The least you can do is suffer The least you can do is suffer
484 00:20:11,510 00:20:13,812 Through one performance a year. Through one performance a year.
485 00:20:13,879 00:20:15,980 - Max, we have a warrant for your arrest. - Max, we have a warrant for your arrest.
486 00:20:16,048 00:20:17,215 - What are you doing? - What are you doing?
487 00:20:17,283 00:20:18,616 - Max, keep quiet. - Max, keep quiet.
488 00:20:18,684 00:20:22,120 You call otto bradshaw, tell him I need him right away. You call otto bradshaw, tell him I need him right away.
489 00:20:22,188 00:20:25,323 I'm julian hayworth, this young man's grandfather. I'm julian hayworth, this young man's grandfather.
490 00:20:25,391 00:20:27,992 What are you arresting him for? Is it his gambling? What are you arresting him for? Is it his gambling?
491 00:20:28,060 00:20:30,795 - We don't arrest gamblers, mr. Hayworth. - We don't arrest gamblers, mr. Hayworth.
492 00:20:30,863 00:20:34,132 - Shakedown artists, yes, but not gamblers. - Shakedown artists, yes, but not gamblers.
493 00:20:40,014 00:20:41,448 - People v. Maxwell purcell-- - People v. Maxwell purcell--
494 00:20:41,516 00:20:43,217 One count attempted robbery, One count attempted robbery,
495 00:20:43,284 00:20:45,419 Two counts second-degree murder. Two counts second-degree murder.
496 00:20:45,486 00:20:47,120 - I plead not guilty, your honor. - I plead not guilty, your honor.
497 00:20:47,188 00:20:49,389 - This is the accounting office shooting in spanish harlem? - This is the accounting office shooting in spanish harlem?
498 00:20:49,457 00:20:50,557 The people allege The people allege
499 00:20:50,625 00:20:52,626 That the defendant acted in concert with-- That the defendant acted in concert with--
500 00:20:52,694 00:20:53,627 Who are these names? Who are these names?
501 00:20:53,695 00:20:55,195 - The robbery team, judge. - The robbery team, judge.
502 00:20:55,263 00:20:57,064 - The dead guys? Really? - The dead guys? Really?
503 00:20:57,131 00:20:59,733 - Max purcell orchestrated this robbery to coerce the owner - Max purcell orchestrated this robbery to coerce the owner
504 00:20:59,801 00:21:00,901 To sell him the building. To sell him the building.
505 00:21:00,969 00:21:02,302 - We contest that, - We contest that,
506 00:21:02,370 00:21:05,105 And where's the vigilante who gunned down three men? And where's the vigilante who gunned down three men?
507 00:21:05,173 00:21:07,241 - We're not prosecuting mr. Harkavy. - We're not prosecuting mr. Harkavy.
508 00:21:07,308 00:21:08,775 - Oh, I see. Jack mccoy's telling us all - Oh, I see. Jack mccoy's telling us all
509 00:21:08,843 00:21:10,911 To arm ourselves with unlicensed weapons To arm ourselves with unlicensed weapons
510 00:21:10,979 00:21:13,280 And fire away at the least provocation. And fire away at the least provocation.
511 00:21:13,348 00:21:15,215 - Mr. Harkavy acted in self-defense. - Mr. Harkavy acted in self-defense.
512 00:21:15,283 00:21:18,285 It's mr. Bradshaw's client who put in motion the events It's mr. Bradshaw's client who put in motion the events
513 00:21:18,353 00:21:19,419 That caused these deaths. That caused these deaths.
514 00:21:19,487 00:21:21,288 - It's a tough sell, mr. Cutter. - It's a tough sell, mr. Cutter.
515 00:21:21,356 00:21:22,889 Bail is set at $100,000. Bail is set at $100,000.
516 00:21:22,957 00:21:25,158 Next case. Next case.
517 00:21:27,428 00:21:29,630 - Stan harkavy deserves a medal. - Stan harkavy deserves a medal.
518 00:21:29,697 00:21:31,298 If their strategy is to turn him If their strategy is to turn him
519 00:21:31,366 00:21:33,233 Into some kind of crazed vigilante, Into some kind of crazed vigilante,
520 00:21:33,301 00:21:34,668 It won't work. It won't work.
521 00:21:34,736 00:21:36,637 - I'm worried about proving motive. - I'm worried about proving motive.
522 00:21:36,704 00:21:39,006 What's a trust-fund kid like max purcell want What's a trust-fund kid like max purcell want
523 00:21:39,073 00:21:40,707 With a rundown building in spanish harlem? With a rundown building in spanish harlem?
524 00:21:40,775 00:21:41,875 He wants it so bad, He wants it so bad,
525 00:21:41,943 00:21:43,877 He sends out a crew to terrorize the owner? He sends out a crew to terrorize the owner?
526 00:21:43,945 00:21:46,246 - You know, max's grandfather didn't bother showing up - You know, max's grandfather didn't bother showing up
527 00:21:46,314 00:21:47,814 For the arraignment. For the arraignment.
528 00:21:47,882 00:21:51,018 Maybe he's ready to throw the kid to the wolves. Maybe he's ready to throw the kid to the wolves.
529 00:21:54,789 00:21:56,890 - Mr. Bradshaw would have my right testicle - Mr. Bradshaw would have my right testicle
530 00:21:56,958 00:21:58,191 For talking to you. For talking to you.
531 00:21:58,259 00:22:00,627 But anything to clear up the misunderstanding. But anything to clear up the misunderstanding.
532 00:22:00,695 00:22:03,730 - Well, the misunderstanding is your grandson doesn't appreciate - Well, the misunderstanding is your grandson doesn't appreciate
533 00:22:03,798 00:22:05,032 How much trouble he's in. How much trouble he's in.
534 00:22:05,099 00:22:07,067 - Oh, that's a characteristic - Oh, that's a characteristic
535 00:22:07,135 00:22:10,237 Of the pathology of gambling, no? Of the pathology of gambling, no?
536 00:22:10,305 00:22:13,740 He got that bad gene from my late son-in-law. He got that bad gene from my late son-in-law.
537 00:22:13,808 00:22:15,909 - We were curious as to why he was interested - We were curious as to why he was interested
538 00:22:15,977 00:22:17,511 In mr. Harkavy's building. In mr. Harkavy's building.
539 00:22:17,578 00:22:20,747 - Oh, maybe to turn it into a craps parlor. - Oh, maybe to turn it into a craps parlor.
540 00:22:20,815 00:22:22,049 Who knows? Who knows?
541 00:22:22,116 00:22:25,252 Max gets a modest stipend from his trust fund. Max gets a modest stipend from his trust fund.
542 00:22:25,320 00:22:27,521 He couldn't afford to put a down payment He couldn't afford to put a down payment
543 00:22:27,588 00:22:29,850 On that building, much less buy it. On that building, much less buy it.
544 00:22:29,850 00:22:32,225 - You own all of these buildings, don't you? - You own all of these buildings, don't you?
545 00:22:32,293 00:22:33,694 - Well, at one time or another. - Well, at one time or another.
546 00:22:33,761 00:22:36,797 Sold off most of my blue-chip properties. Sold off most of my blue-chip properties.
547 00:22:36,864 00:22:40,100 The recession put the rest of my portfolio The recession put the rest of my portfolio
548 00:22:40,168 00:22:43,337 In the crapper. In the crapper.
549 00:22:43,404 00:22:45,005 - Maybe your grandson thought you were gonna help him get - Maybe your grandson thought you were gonna help him get
550 00:22:45,073 00:22:46,540 Into the family business. Into the family business.
551 00:22:46,607 00:22:47,808 You know, help him buy that building. You know, help him buy that building.
552 00:22:47,875 00:22:49,142 - Oh, lord, no. - Oh, lord, no.
553 00:22:49,210 00:22:51,044 Max and I don't have that kind of relationship. Max and I don't have that kind of relationship.
554 00:22:51,112 00:22:52,879 He's family, so I support him. He's family, so I support him.
555 00:22:52,947 00:22:55,649 - The carolyn hayworth library, hudson university. - The carolyn hayworth library, hudson university.
556 00:22:55,717 00:22:57,851 Did, uh--did you go there? Did, uh--did you go there?
557 00:22:57,919 00:22:59,052 - My daughter did. - My daughter did.
558 00:22:59,120 00:23:01,321 My only child, max's mother. My only child, max's mother.
559 00:23:01,389 00:23:02,856 Whatever I have left Whatever I have left
560 00:23:02,924 00:23:05,425 At the end of my days I promised to hudson, At the end of my days I promised to hudson,
561 00:23:05,493 00:23:07,627 To build this in her memory. To build this in her memory.
562 00:23:07,695 00:23:08,862 - Everything you have? - Everything you have?
563 00:23:08,930 00:23:11,365 Max couldn't be too happy about that. Max couldn't be too happy about that.
564 00:23:11,432 00:23:13,367 a deal's a deal. a deal's a deal.
565 00:23:13,434 00:23:16,737 Max has his trust fund to keep him afloat. Max has his trust fund to keep him afloat.
566 00:23:16,804 00:23:18,071 Anything else? Anything else?
567 00:23:18,139 00:23:20,173 - I don't think so. - I don't think so.
568 00:23:20,241 00:23:21,174 Mike? Mike?
569 00:23:21,242 00:23:23,577 - Oh, I'm sorry, no. - Oh, I'm sorry, no.
570 00:23:23,644 00:23:24,878 No more questions. No more questions.
571 00:23:24,946 00:23:28,248 Good meeting you, mr. Hayworth. Good meeting you, mr. Hayworth.
572 00:23:30,885 00:23:33,019 Nice library, big too. Nice library, big too.
573 00:23:33,087 00:23:37,591 Not something you can just put anywhere. Not something you can just put anywhere.
574 00:23:37,658 00:23:39,793 - Mr. Hayworth committed to donate the money - Mr. Hayworth committed to donate the money
575 00:23:39,861 00:23:42,295 At the end of the year in the form of an annuity. At the end of the year in the form of an annuity.
576 00:23:42,363 00:23:44,531 He'll receive an annual payout off the interest He'll receive an annual payout off the interest
577 00:23:44,599 00:23:45,799 Until his death, Until his death,
578 00:23:45,867 00:23:47,901 And the library will be fully funded. And the library will be fully funded.
579 00:23:47,969 00:23:49,803 - Everybody's happy. - Everybody's happy.
580 00:23:49,871 00:23:51,605 - Well, we certainly are. - Well, we certainly are.
581 00:23:51,672 00:23:53,373 - His family objected? - His family objected?
582 00:23:53,441 00:23:56,576 - His grandson max came in a few weeks ago. - His grandson max came in a few weeks ago.
583 00:23:56,644 00:23:58,278 He claimed his grandfather had lost He claimed his grandfather had lost
584 00:23:58,346 00:24:02,115 A great deal of his fortune since agreeing to the donation. A great deal of his fortune since agreeing to the donation.
585 00:24:02,183 00:24:03,817 He wanted us to tear up the contract. He wanted us to tear up the contract.
586 00:24:03,885 00:24:06,052 - And you obviously declined. - And you obviously declined.
587 00:24:06,120 00:24:08,088 - Well, a gift of this size doesn't come around - Well, a gift of this size doesn't come around
588 00:24:08,156 00:24:09,356 Every day. Every day.
589 00:24:09,424 00:24:11,458 And besides, unless we hear from mr. Hayworth-- And besides, unless we hear from mr. Hayworth--
590 00:24:11,526 00:24:13,727 - This is where the library's being built? - This is where the library's being built?
591 00:24:13,795 00:24:15,495 - It changes every few months, - It changes every few months,
592 00:24:15,563 00:24:17,431 But, yes, that is the latest But, yes, that is the latest
593 00:24:17,498 00:24:18,565 And hopefully final plan. And hopefully final plan.
594 00:24:18,633 00:24:20,901 - Max purcell saw this? - Max purcell saw this?
595 00:24:20,968 00:24:22,903 - Yes, I told him the university's expanding - Yes, I told him the university's expanding
596 00:24:22,970 00:24:24,704 Up into spanish harlem. Up into spanish harlem.
597 00:24:26,474 00:24:28,909 - Right through stan harkavy's building. - Right through stan harkavy's building.
598 00:24:30,578 00:24:32,846 - It was stan harkavy day in spanish harlem, - It was stan harkavy day in spanish harlem,
599 00:24:32,914 00:24:35,348 Where thousands of new yorkers came out to support Where thousands of new yorkers came out to support
600 00:24:35,416 00:24:38,018 The latest hero in the big apple. The latest hero in the big apple.
601 00:24:38,085 00:24:40,720 Like millions of decent, hard-working people Like millions of decent, hard-working people
602 00:24:40,788 00:24:43,423 In this city, I want to applaud mr. Harkavy In this city, I want to applaud mr. Harkavy
603 00:24:43,491 00:24:45,759 For defending his employee and his business For defending his employee and his business
604 00:24:45,827 00:24:47,427 Against these armed predators. Against these armed predators.
605 00:24:47,495 00:24:51,031 - Looks like len pewls jumped right on that bandwagon. - Looks like len pewls jumped right on that bandwagon.
606 00:24:51,098 00:24:53,300 - Stan harkavy's a perfect excuse for one - Stan harkavy's a perfect excuse for one
607 00:24:53,367 00:24:56,670 Of his thinly veiled racist commentaries. Of his thinly veiled racist commentaries.
608 00:24:56,737 00:24:59,304 - Well, fair warning, but I'll be giving stan - Well, fair warning, but I'll be giving stan
609 00:24:59,304 00:25:02,193 His award at his commendation ceremony tomorrow. His award at his commendation ceremony tomorrow.
610 00:25:02,707 00:25:03,255 - Why? - Why?
611 00:25:03,323 00:25:04,323 - Well, when the defense - Well, when the defense
612 00:25:04,390 00:25:05,924 Is calling stan a vigilante, Is calling stan a vigilante,
613 00:25:05,992 00:25:08,627 I thought it can't hurt to showcase his heroism. I thought it can't hurt to showcase his heroism.
614 00:25:08,695 00:25:12,030 Besides, I respect the guy. Besides, I respect the guy.
615 00:25:12,098 00:25:14,866 Can't have been easy persevering in that neighborhood Can't have been easy persevering in that neighborhood
616 00:25:14,934 00:25:16,201 All those years. All those years.
617 00:25:16,269 00:25:17,869 - It's a free country. - It's a free country.
618 00:25:17,937 00:25:20,839 I'm more interested in your case against max purcell. I'm more interested in your case against max purcell.
619 00:25:20,907 00:25:22,841 - Well, I think we nailed his motive. - Well, I think we nailed his motive.
620 00:25:22,909 00:25:25,978 His grandfather is about to give away max's inheritance His grandfather is about to give away max's inheritance
621 00:25:26,045 00:25:28,780 To build a library at hudson university. To build a library at hudson university.
622 00:25:28,848 00:25:30,615 And there was nothing max could do about it. And there was nothing max could do about it.
623 00:25:30,683 00:25:32,217 - Until he found out stan's building - Until he found out stan's building
624 00:25:32,285 00:25:34,019 Runs smack in the middle of the real estate Runs smack in the middle of the real estate
625 00:25:34,087 00:25:35,120 Hudson needs to build the library. Hudson needs to build the library.
626 00:25:35,188 00:25:37,622 - If he got control of that property, - If he got control of that property,
627 00:25:37,690 00:25:38,724 He could hold them up He could hold them up
628 00:25:38,791 00:25:40,492 And force old man hayworth to pay him off. And force old man hayworth to pay him off.
629 00:25:40,560 00:25:43,862 - Too bad for him he ran into someone even more stubborn - Too bad for him he ran into someone even more stubborn
630 00:25:43,930 00:25:46,231 Than his grandfather. Than his grandfather.
631 00:25:48,801 00:25:50,135 - So now I'd like to present this award - So now I'd like to present this award
632 00:25:50,203 00:25:53,405 To someone who's dedicated his life To someone who's dedicated his life
633 00:25:53,473 00:25:55,374 To serving one of our communities. To serving one of our communities.
634 00:25:55,441 00:25:58,577 And now he's demonstrated his heroism And now he's demonstrated his heroism
635 00:25:58,644 00:26:01,513 By defending the business that he built By defending the business that he built
636 00:26:01,581 00:26:03,215 And the young man who worked for him. And the young man who worked for him.
637 00:26:03,282 00:26:05,684 Ladies and gentlemen, Ladies and gentlemen,
638 00:26:05,752 00:26:07,285 Stan harkavy. Stan harkavy.
639 00:26:19,966 00:26:22,567 - I'm an accountant. - I'm an accountant.
640 00:26:22,635 00:26:26,138 I know my way around a tax form. I know my way around a tax form.
641 00:26:26,205 00:26:27,973 I'm not much for talking. I'm not much for talking.
642 00:26:28,041 00:26:31,143 I'm not proud about what happened. I'm not proud about what happened.
643 00:26:31,210 00:26:35,714 I wish those men had never stepped into my store. I wish those men had never stepped into my store.
644 00:26:35,782 00:26:39,017 I'm just glad that me and gregory are still alive. I'm just glad that me and gregory are still alive.
645 00:26:39,085 00:26:43,155 Thank you for the fancy plaque. Thank you for the fancy plaque.
646 00:26:49,562 00:26:51,029 - Looks like hudson university - Looks like hudson university
647 00:26:51,097 00:26:53,565 Sent someone to kiss stan harkavy's ring. Sent someone to kiss stan harkavy's ring.
648 00:26:53,633 00:26:55,233 That's their development officer, That's their development officer,
649 00:26:55,301 00:26:57,903 The one handling the hayworth library gift. The one handling the hayworth library gift.
650 00:26:57,970 00:27:00,172 - I'm sure hudson planned on buying - I'm sure hudson planned on buying
651 00:27:00,239 00:27:02,340 All that real estate on the cheap. All that real estate on the cheap.
652 00:27:02,408 00:27:05,010 Now mr. Harkavy's gotten all this public sympathy. Now mr. Harkavy's gotten all this public sympathy.
653 00:27:05,078 00:27:07,345 It's gonna cost him. It's gonna cost him.
654 00:27:07,413 00:27:09,748 - Mm-mm, here comes trouble. - Mm-mm, here comes trouble.
655 00:27:09,816 00:27:11,349 - Ms. Rubirosa, - Ms. Rubirosa,
656 00:27:11,417 00:27:13,351 I thought I might run into you here. I thought I might run into you here.
657 00:27:13,419 00:27:17,422 Mr. Mccoy. Mr. Mccoy.
658 00:27:17,490 00:27:19,257 - Oh, what'd I tell you? - Oh, what'd I tell you?
659 00:27:19,325 00:27:21,927 Motion to dismiss. Motion to dismiss.
660 00:27:24,097 00:27:25,530 - The defendant can't be charged - The defendant can't be charged
661 00:27:25,598 00:27:27,799 With felony murder if his accomplices are killed With felony murder if his accomplices are killed
662 00:27:27,867 00:27:29,067 During their crime. During their crime.
663 00:27:29,135 00:27:32,604 - That presumes a common intent among the participants. - That presumes a common intent among the participants.
664 00:27:32,672 00:27:35,974 While robbery was the intent of mr. Purcell's accomplices, While robbery was the intent of mr. Purcell's accomplices,
665 00:27:36,042 00:27:38,643 His intent was intimidation. His intent was intimidation.
666 00:27:38,711 00:27:40,912 - He makes a good point, mr. Bradshaw. - He makes a good point, mr. Bradshaw.
667 00:27:40,980 00:27:42,814 - Where is the proof that my client sent these men - Where is the proof that my client sent these men
668 00:27:42,882 00:27:44,149 Into that store? Into that store?
669 00:27:44,217 00:27:47,152 It's speculation based on a single coincidence It's speculation based on a single coincidence
670 00:27:47,220 00:27:49,821 That my client knew one of the robbers That my client knew one of the robbers
671 00:27:49,889 00:27:51,289 From his poker game. From his poker game.
672 00:27:51,357 00:27:53,391 - Well, one man's coincidence - Well, one man's coincidence
673 00:27:53,459 00:27:56,061 Is another man's circumstantial evidence. Is another man's circumstantial evidence.
674 00:27:56,129 00:27:57,229 - Nice try, mr. Cutter, - Nice try, mr. Cutter,
675 00:27:57,296 00:27:59,164 But I take mr. Bradshaw's point. But I take mr. Bradshaw's point.
676 00:27:59,232 00:28:00,665 I'm dismissing the indictment I'm dismissing the indictment
677 00:28:00,733 00:28:02,501 Till the people have an offer of proof that this robbery Till the people have an offer of proof that this robbery
678 00:28:02,568 00:28:05,403 Was connected to mr. Purcell's scheme to buy the building. Was connected to mr. Purcell's scheme to buy the building.
679 00:28:09,408 00:28:11,409 - Angel can't get a fair shake in the city. - Angel can't get a fair shake in the city.
680 00:28:11,477 00:28:13,178 We'll be moving for a change of venue. We'll be moving for a change of venue.
681 00:28:13,246 00:28:14,913 - Try this case in niagara falls, - Try this case in niagara falls,
682 00:28:14,981 00:28:17,082 It won't change the fact your client was found wounded It won't change the fact your client was found wounded
683 00:28:17,150 00:28:18,183 At the crime scene. At the crime scene.
684 00:28:18,251 00:28:19,684 - Are you gonna claim he was there - Are you gonna claim he was there
685 00:28:19,752 00:28:21,153 To get his tax returns done? To get his tax returns done?
686 00:28:21,220 00:28:22,988 - I know I shouldn't have been there, okay? - I know I shouldn't have been there, okay?
687 00:28:23,055 00:28:25,457 Is there anything you can do for me? Is there anything you can do for me?
688 00:28:25,525 00:28:29,194 - Well, let's talk about that after you do something for us. - Well, let's talk about that after you do something for us.
689 00:28:30,930 00:28:32,430 - You know him? - You know him?
690 00:28:32,498 00:28:34,266 His name's max purcell. His name's max purcell.
691 00:28:34,333 00:28:37,035 - Angel. - It's okay. - Angel. - It's okay.
692 00:28:37,103 00:28:39,037 I wish I could say I did, but I don't. I wish I could say I did, but I don't.
693 00:28:39,105 00:28:40,639 - Duane ever mention max? - Duane ever mention max?
694 00:28:40,706 00:28:43,008 Maybe you heard them talking on the phone? Maybe you heard them talking on the phone?
695 00:28:43,075 00:28:44,142 - No. - No.
696 00:28:44,210 00:28:45,644 Can't you check duane's phones? Can't you check duane's phones?
697 00:28:45,711 00:28:47,112 - Phones? - Phones?
698 00:28:47,180 00:28:48,280 His home and his cell? His home and his cell?
699 00:28:48,347 00:28:50,315 - No, duane had two cells-- - No, duane had two cells--
700 00:28:50,383 00:28:52,517 His regular one and his ho phone. His regular one and his ho phone.
701 00:28:52,585 00:28:54,452 - His ho phone? - His ho phone?
702 00:28:54,520 00:28:55,620 - You know, a disposable, - You know, a disposable,
703 00:28:55,688 00:28:58,156 So he can run around on his ladies. So he can run around on his ladies.
704 00:28:58,224 00:29:01,326 - The police only found one cell phone. - The police only found one cell phone.
705 00:29:01,394 00:29:03,195 You happen to know any of those ladies You happen to know any of those ladies
706 00:29:03,262 00:29:04,362 Duane might have called? Duane might have called?
707 00:29:04,430 00:29:07,999 - He called pierre's sister a few times. - He called pierre's sister a few times.
708 00:29:08,067 00:29:11,503 Pierre wasn't too happy about that. Pierre wasn't too happy about that.
709 00:29:11,571 00:29:14,172 - We traced 15 calls to pierre hobbs' sister - We traced 15 calls to pierre hobbs' sister
710 00:29:14,240 00:29:16,508 Back to a cell phone number that had calls Back to a cell phone number that had calls
711 00:29:16,576 00:29:19,311 To several other women that duane was seeing. To several other women that duane was seeing.
712 00:29:19,378 00:29:20,512 - Duane looks like a busy guy, - Duane looks like a busy guy,
713 00:29:20,580 00:29:22,013 But I don't see any calls to max. But I don't see any calls to max.
714 00:29:22,081 00:29:23,582 - Look at these. - Look at these.
715 00:29:23,649 00:29:24,916 Right here. Right here.
716 00:29:24,984 00:29:26,351 - Desiree's house of beauty. - Desiree's house of beauty.
717 00:29:26,419 00:29:27,786 Duane was dating a hairdresser? Duane was dating a hairdresser?
718 00:29:27,853 00:29:30,021 - It's on the same block as stan's store. - It's on the same block as stan's store.
719 00:29:30,089 00:29:32,924 - The calls start the day max went to visit stan - The calls start the day max went to visit stan
720 00:29:32,992 00:29:34,759 To offer to buy his place. To offer to buy his place.
721 00:29:39,932 00:29:41,533 - Yeah, I gave him my number. - Yeah, I gave him my number.
722 00:29:41,601 00:29:43,535 He called me that night. He called me that night.
723 00:29:43,603 00:29:45,203 He ain't tell me he was a criminal. He ain't tell me he was a criminal.
724 00:29:46,639 00:29:49,975 - Okay, did duane tell you why he was in the neighborhood? - Okay, did duane tell you why he was in the neighborhood?
725 00:29:50,042 00:29:51,743 - I don't remember. - I don't remember.
726 00:29:51,811 00:29:53,245 - Girl, you don't remember anything. - Girl, you don't remember anything.
727 00:29:53,312 00:29:55,680 He was waiting on some white boy he was driving around. He was waiting on some white boy he was driving around.
728 00:29:55,748 00:29:58,183 He parked across the street, leaning on his car, He parked across the street, leaning on his car,
729 00:29:58,251 00:29:59,618 Staring at her through that window. Staring at her through that window.
730 00:29:59,685 00:30:00,752 - What kind of car? - What kind of car?
731 00:30:00,820 00:30:02,053 - A blue bmw. - A blue bmw.
732 00:30:02,121 00:30:03,855 No doubt you remember that. No doubt you remember that.
733 00:30:03,923 00:30:06,224 He would have been here all day wasting her time He would have been here all day wasting her time
734 00:30:06,292 00:30:08,627 If that white boy hadn't come running back to the car. If that white boy hadn't come running back to the car.
735 00:30:08,694 00:30:11,096 - Is this the white boy? - Is this the white boy?
736 00:30:11,163 00:30:13,732 - That's right. Mr. Harkavy was chasing him. - That's right. Mr. Harkavy was chasing him.
737 00:30:13,799 00:30:15,433 Duane ran out of here. Duane ran out of here.
738 00:30:15,501 00:30:18,236 When mr. Harkavy saw him coming, he went back in his shop. When mr. Harkavy saw him coming, he went back in his shop.
739 00:30:18,304 00:30:20,572 - You're saying mr. Harkavy saw duane. - You're saying mr. Harkavy saw duane.
740 00:30:20,640 00:30:23,575 - Mm-hmm, he sure did. - Mm-hmm, he sure did.
741 00:30:23,643 00:30:24,943 This is what you get This is what you get
742 00:30:25,011 00:30:27,012 For displaying yourself in the window. For displaying yourself in the window.
743 00:30:28,581 00:30:30,815 - I thought stan harkavy told you he'd never seen duane - I thought stan harkavy told you he'd never seen duane
744 00:30:30,883 00:30:32,117 Until the day of the shooting. Until the day of the shooting.
745 00:30:32,184 00:30:35,086 - That's right. That's what he told us. - That's right. That's what he told us.
746 00:30:38,634 00:30:40,134 - How can we be sure that stan lied - How can we be sure that stan lied
747 00:30:40,202 00:30:41,869 Or that he even got a look at duane? Or that he even got a look at duane?
748 00:30:41,937 00:30:44,439 - The woman at the salon is pretty sure he did. - The woman at the salon is pretty sure he did.
749 00:30:44,506 00:30:46,574 - He backed off when he saw duane. - He backed off when he saw duane.
750 00:30:46,642 00:30:48,209 - Stan is 68. - Stan is 68.
751 00:30:48,277 00:30:50,211 In the fear and confusion of a holdup, In the fear and confusion of a holdup,
752 00:30:50,279 00:30:53,381 He might not remember a face he only saw for a few seconds. He might not remember a face he only saw for a few seconds.
753 00:30:53,449 00:30:55,650 - Well, he's sharp enough to shoot three men. - Well, he's sharp enough to shoot three men.
754 00:30:55,718 00:30:58,152 Mike, I know you're in the stan harkavy fan club, Mike, I know you're in the stan harkavy fan club,
755 00:30:58,220 00:30:59,987 But he's been looking at duane's mug shot But he's been looking at duane's mug shot
756 00:31:00,055 00:31:01,456 For the last two weeks. For the last two weeks.
757 00:31:01,523 00:31:03,324 It's incomprehensible he didn't remember seeing him. It's incomprehensible he didn't remember seeing him.
758 00:31:03,392 00:31:05,993 - Okay, okay, so if he did recognize duane from the time - Okay, okay, so if he did recognize duane from the time
759 00:31:06,061 00:31:07,995 He saw him with max, then he might have figured out He saw him with max, then he might have figured out
760 00:31:08,063 00:31:10,598 That it wasn't a holdup, and it was just intimidation. That it wasn't a holdup, and it was just intimidation.
761 00:31:10,666 00:31:12,266 - And that his life and gregory's - And that his life and gregory's
762 00:31:12,334 00:31:14,569 Weren't really in danger. Weren't really in danger.
763 00:31:18,374 00:31:21,376 - Stan was behind the counter, and I was over here. - Stan was behind the counter, and I was over here.
764 00:31:21,443 00:31:22,477 I was down on the floor. I was down on the floor.
765 00:31:22,544 00:31:23,845 The guy's kicking me in the face. The guy's kicking me in the face.
766 00:31:23,912 00:31:25,279 And then this guy-- And then this guy--
767 00:31:25,347 00:31:27,115 - Where was this guy? - He was over there. - Where was this guy? - He was over there.
768 00:31:27,182 00:31:28,616 He's yelling, "give it up, bitch." He's yelling, "give it up, bitch."
769 00:31:28,684 00:31:30,685 And then, uh, I heard the first boom. And then, uh, I heard the first boom.
770 00:31:30,753 00:31:32,420 - Who did stan shoot first? - Who did stan shoot first?
771 00:31:32,488 00:31:34,422 - The guy hitting me. - The guy hitting me.
772 00:31:34,490 00:31:35,923 He was standing over me. He was standing over me.
773 00:31:35,991 00:31:37,692 - Are you sure about that? - Are you sure about that?
774 00:31:37,760 00:31:40,928 See, our lab analyzed these blood splatters on the wall, See, our lab analyzed these blood splatters on the wall,
775 00:31:40,996 00:31:42,563 And pierre's blood, the guy who was beating you, And pierre's blood, the guy who was beating you,
776 00:31:42,631 00:31:44,365 Was on top of duane's, which means Was on top of duane's, which means
777 00:31:44,433 00:31:46,801 Duane got shot first. Duane got shot first.
778 00:31:46,869 00:31:49,637 Maybe you want to take another run at that answer. Maybe you want to take another run at that answer.
779 00:31:52,141 00:31:54,876 Uh, yeah, yeah, I guess that's right. Uh, yeah, yeah, I guess that's right.
780 00:31:54,943 00:31:57,075 Stan shot that duane dude first. Stan shot that duane dude first.
781 00:31:57,767 00:31:59,703 - Why'd you lie? - Why'd you lie?
782 00:32:05,710 00:32:08,479 - Before the cops came... - Before the cops came...
783 00:32:08,547 00:32:10,214 Stan told me it would look better Stan told me it would look better
784 00:32:10,282 00:32:14,185 If we said the first guy he shot was the one beating me. If we said the first guy he shot was the one beating me.
785 00:32:21,059 00:32:24,428 - All right, before we all jump to conclusions, - All right, before we all jump to conclusions,
786 00:32:24,496 00:32:26,730 Let me talk to the man. Let me talk to the man.
787 00:32:34,272 00:32:37,274 - The kid was by himself when he came in to buy my building. - The kid was by himself when he came in to buy my building.
788 00:32:37,342 00:32:39,110 but you had an argument. but you had an argument.
789 00:32:39,177 00:32:41,846 You chased him outside. You chased him outside.
790 00:32:46,051 00:32:48,185 Come on, stan, this is important. Come on, stan, this is important.
791 00:32:48,253 00:32:52,056 - Okay, so maybe I went outside. - Okay, so maybe I went outside.
792 00:32:52,124 00:32:54,859 - Did you see the black guy that was with max? - Did you see the black guy that was with max?
793 00:32:54,926 00:32:56,427 - I didn't see any black guy. - I didn't see any black guy.
794 00:32:56,495 00:32:58,195 - There's a witness that says you did. - There's a witness that says you did.
795 00:32:58,263 00:33:00,397 - A witness who knows what I saw. - A witness who knows what I saw.
796 00:33:00,465 00:33:02,166 Who is this person? Who is this person?
797 00:33:02,234 00:33:03,467 - It doesn't matter. - It doesn't matter.
798 00:33:03,535 00:33:05,002 - It matters to me. - It matters to me.
799 00:33:05,070 00:33:07,538 Why are you doing this? I thought you were my friend. Why are you doing this? I thought you were my friend.
800 00:33:07,606 00:33:10,141 - Did you recognize one of the robbers, stan? - Did you recognize one of the robbers, stan?
801 00:33:10,208 00:33:12,409 The guy that was with max? The guy that was with max?
802 00:33:12,477 00:33:14,411 Tell me the truth. Tell me the truth.
803 00:33:20,152 00:33:21,752 You did, didn't you? You did, didn't you?
804 00:33:21,820 00:33:25,189 - I'm an old man. - I'm an old man.
805 00:33:25,257 00:33:28,959 I don't remember what I saw. I don't remember what I saw.
806 00:33:32,330 00:33:36,867 - I see you have something here from kingsley properties. - I see you have something here from kingsley properties.
807 00:33:36,935 00:33:38,869 They're a commercial real estate broker, right? They're a commercial real estate broker, right?
808 00:33:38,937 00:33:41,839 - How do I know? It's junk mail. - How do I know? It's junk mail.
809 00:33:41,907 00:33:44,175 - Hand-addressed junk mail. - Hand-addressed junk mail.
810 00:33:58,690 00:34:00,090 - Mr. Harkavy came to see me - Mr. Harkavy came to see me
811 00:34:00,158 00:34:02,393 To get an informal appraisal on his property. To get an informal appraisal on his property.
812 00:34:02,460 00:34:04,895 - This was before the robbery. - This was before the robbery.
813 00:34:04,963 00:34:06,797 - Yes, somebody made him an offer, - Yes, somebody made him an offer,
814 00:34:06,865 00:34:09,133 And he wanted to find out if it was a good deal. And he wanted to find out if it was a good deal.
815 00:34:09,201 00:34:10,234 - Was it? - Was it?
816 00:34:10,302 00:34:12,303 not by a long shot. not by a long shot.
817 00:34:12,370 00:34:15,072 I knew hudson university was eyeballing the area. I knew hudson university was eyeballing the area.
818 00:34:15,140 00:34:16,807 I called my sources over there, I called my sources over there,
819 00:34:16,875 00:34:19,143 And they confirmed their expansion plans And they confirmed their expansion plans
820 00:34:19,211 00:34:21,412 Tracked right through mr. Harkavy's block. Tracked right through mr. Harkavy's block.
821 00:34:21,479 00:34:23,681 - So stan knew the value of his building - So stan knew the value of his building
822 00:34:23,748 00:34:25,282 Was about to skyrocket? Was about to skyrocket?
823 00:34:25,350 00:34:26,617 - I told him to sit tight. - I told him to sit tight.
824 00:34:26,685 00:34:29,353 Hudson will pay far more than any private developer. Hudson will pay far more than any private developer.
825 00:34:29,421 00:34:31,455 And now, with all this attention, And now, with all this attention,
826 00:34:31,523 00:34:33,424 He can tack on another 10% He can tack on another 10%
827 00:34:33,491 00:34:36,193 Just for the sympathy factor. Just for the sympathy factor.
828 00:34:36,261 00:34:38,195 - Before those three thugs came into his store, - Before those three thugs came into his store,
829 00:34:38,263 00:34:40,664 Stan harkavy knew he was sitting on a gold mine. Stan harkavy knew he was sitting on a gold mine.
830 00:34:40,732 00:34:43,300 Ever since, he's been milking it to drive up the price. Ever since, he's been milking it to drive up the price.
831 00:34:43,368 00:34:44,935 - Let's assume that that's true. - Let's assume that that's true.
832 00:34:45,003 00:34:47,304 Why would stan intentionally gun down men Why would stan intentionally gun down men
833 00:34:47,372 00:34:49,707 He knew were only sent to intimidate him? He knew were only sent to intimidate him?
834 00:34:49,774 00:34:52,076 - Well, maybe to get max off his back - Well, maybe to get max off his back
835 00:34:52,143 00:34:53,143 Or just to send a message Or just to send a message
836 00:34:53,211 00:34:54,411 That he wouldn't be pushed around. That he wouldn't be pushed around.
837 00:34:54,479 00:34:56,547 - I see, and he made all those fine calculations - I see, and he made all those fine calculations
838 00:34:56,615 00:34:57,815 In a few seconds. In a few seconds.
839 00:34:57,882 00:34:59,817 - Maybe he was just pissed off at the men - Maybe he was just pissed off at the men
840 00:34:59,884 00:35:01,185 Who were trying to scare him. Who were trying to scare him.
841 00:35:01,253 00:35:03,654 I don't know. I don't know.
842 00:35:03,722 00:35:04,955 - You don't know. - You don't know.
843 00:35:05,023 00:35:06,590 Or you don't want to think about all the crow Or you don't want to think about all the crow
844 00:35:06,658 00:35:07,992 You'll have to eat if we charge him. You'll have to eat if we charge him.
845 00:35:08,059 00:35:11,128 Folk heroes-- that's the problem Folk heroes-- that's the problem
846 00:35:11,196 00:35:13,464 With these joe the plumber types. With these joe the plumber types.
847 00:35:13,531 00:35:16,900 More often that not, they come back to bite you in the ass. More often that not, they come back to bite you in the ass.
848 00:35:16,968 00:35:20,971 You now have a witness who can put max purcell You now have a witness who can put max purcell
849 00:35:21,039 00:35:23,173 With duane jefferson. With duane jefferson.
850 00:35:23,241 00:35:24,241 Recharge him. Recharge him.
851 00:35:24,309 00:35:26,143 See if he'll deal. See if he'll deal.
852 00:35:26,211 00:35:27,511 - And what about stan? - And what about stan?
853 00:35:29,581 00:35:33,651 Go to the grand jury and ask for an indictment for murder. Go to the grand jury and ask for an indictment for murder.
854 00:35:33,718 00:35:35,352 - You sure? - You sure?
855 00:35:35,420 00:35:38,555 Even if he recognized duane jefferson, Even if he recognized duane jefferson,
856 00:35:38,623 00:35:40,424 His office was still being robbed, His office was still being robbed,
857 00:35:40,492 00:35:43,761 His employee was still being beaten. His employee was still being beaten.
858 00:35:43,828 00:35:47,264 The homicides were legally justified. The homicides were legally justified.
859 00:35:47,332 00:35:49,233 - He recognized jefferson. - He recognized jefferson.
860 00:35:49,301 00:35:51,368 And he lied about it. And he lied about it.
861 00:35:51,436 00:35:54,138 That's consciousness of guilt. That's consciousness of guilt.
862 00:35:55,674 00:35:59,677 He shot these men because he had his own agenda. He shot these men because he had his own agenda.
863 00:36:06,951 00:36:08,652 - I tried to talk to my grandfather. - I tried to talk to my grandfather.
864 00:36:08,720 00:36:10,721 I tried to talk to the university. I tried to talk to the university.
865 00:36:10,789 00:36:13,824 All I kept hearing was a deal's a deal. All I kept hearing was a deal's a deal.
866 00:36:13,892 00:36:15,592 So I thought if I bought a property So I thought if I bought a property
867 00:36:15,660 00:36:18,629 Right where they wanted to put that damn library, Right where they wanted to put that damn library,
868 00:36:18,697 00:36:19,963 I'd have leverage. I'd have leverage.
869 00:36:20,031 00:36:22,099 - So you targeted stan harkavy's store. - So you targeted stan harkavy's store.
870 00:36:22,167 00:36:24,968 - It was the only thing I could afford. - It was the only thing I could afford.
871 00:36:25,036 00:36:27,271 I was a little nervous about the neighborhood, I was a little nervous about the neighborhood,
872 00:36:27,339 00:36:28,972 So I took duane jefferson with me. So I took duane jefferson with me.
873 00:36:29,040 00:36:31,742 I left him outside, and I went in to talk to stan, I left him outside, and I went in to talk to stan,
874 00:36:31,810 00:36:34,878 But stan was too stubborn to listen. But stan was too stubborn to listen.
875 00:36:34,946 00:36:37,915 He got angry, and when I left, he ran out after me, He got angry, and when I left, he ran out after me,
876 00:36:37,982 00:36:40,918 Calling me a punk. Calling me a punk.
877 00:36:40,985 00:36:42,986 - Where was duane when this happened? - Where was duane when this happened?
878 00:36:43,054 00:36:44,955 - He came running out of this hair salon. - He came running out of this hair salon.
879 00:36:45,023 00:36:46,357 And when stan saw him coming, And when stan saw him coming,
880 00:36:46,424 00:36:49,126 He got scared and ran back into his store. He got scared and ran back into his store.
881 00:36:49,194 00:36:53,597 - You're sure that mr. Harkavy saw mr. Jefferson? - You're sure that mr. Harkavy saw mr. Jefferson?
882 00:36:53,665 00:36:55,666 - Oh, yeah. - Oh, yeah.
883 00:36:55,734 00:36:58,369 His eyes got real big. His eyes got real big.
884 00:36:58,436 00:37:01,071 Duane was a scary-looking dude. Duane was a scary-looking dude.
885 00:37:01,139 00:37:03,807 - Did you try again to buy the building? - Did you try again to buy the building?
886 00:37:03,875 00:37:05,876 - I figured I had to soften stan up at first, - I figured I had to soften stan up at first,
887 00:37:05,944 00:37:09,947 So I paid duane $8,000 to send some guys, So I paid duane $8,000 to send some guys,
888 00:37:10,014 00:37:12,516 Shake him up, make it look like a robbery. Shake him up, make it look like a robbery.
889 00:37:12,584 00:37:16,120 It never dawned on me that stan might have a gun. It never dawned on me that stan might have a gun.
890 00:37:16,187 00:37:18,322 - Are you giving this testimony in exchange for anything, - Are you giving this testimony in exchange for anything,
891 00:37:18,390 00:37:20,457 Mr. Purcell? Mr. Purcell?
892 00:37:20,525 00:37:23,794 - I made a deal to plead guilty to attempted extortion. - I made a deal to plead guilty to attempted extortion.
893 00:37:23,862 00:37:27,798 They promised me five years in jail if I told the truth. They promised me five years in jail if I told the truth.
894 00:37:29,300 00:37:33,504 - I opened that office 45 years ago. - I opened that office 45 years ago.
895 00:37:33,571 00:37:36,907 Evelyn, my wife, Evelyn, my wife,
896 00:37:36,975 00:37:38,976 God rest her soul, God rest her soul,
897 00:37:39,043 00:37:42,980 And me, we put everything we had in it. And me, we put everything we had in it.
898 00:37:43,047 00:37:47,184 My first customers, now their grandchildren bring me My first customers, now their grandchildren bring me
899 00:37:47,252 00:37:49,686 Their tax returns. Their tax returns.
900 00:37:49,754 00:37:52,122 I hire kids from the neighborhood, I hire kids from the neighborhood,
901 00:37:52,190 00:37:55,759 Go to their graduations, their weddings. Go to their graduations, their weddings.
902 00:37:55,827 00:37:58,395 That office is like a part of me, That office is like a part of me,
903 00:37:58,463 00:38:01,999 Like my lungs and my heart. Like my lungs and my heart.
904 00:38:02,066 00:38:04,668 I got my whole life in there. I got my whole life in there.
905 00:38:04,736 00:38:07,571 So when these punks come to rob me So when these punks come to rob me
906 00:38:07,639 00:38:09,673 And beat up the young man who worked for me, And beat up the young man who worked for me,
907 00:38:09,741 00:38:11,542 I couldn't stand there and let them do it. I couldn't stand there and let them do it.
908 00:38:11,609 00:38:12,910 I just couldn't. I just couldn't.
909 00:38:12,977 00:38:15,879 I'm not happy I killed them. I'm not happy I killed them.
910 00:38:15,947 00:38:18,882 But they shouldn't have come in my office to do what they did. But they shouldn't have come in my office to do what they did.
911 00:38:18,950 00:38:20,384 - Max purcell came into your store - Max purcell came into your store
912 00:38:20,452 00:38:22,352 And offered to buy it, isn't that right? And offered to buy it, isn't that right?
913 00:38:22,420 00:38:25,289 - That's right. I told him to go to hell. - That's right. I told him to go to hell.
914 00:38:25,356 00:38:27,825 - Yeah, in fact, you followed him all the way to his car. - Yeah, in fact, you followed him all the way to his car.
915 00:38:27,892 00:38:30,394 - I had to tell that punk what I thought of his offer. - I had to tell that punk what I thought of his offer.
916 00:38:30,462 00:38:33,330 - And at that time, you saw duane jefferson. - And at that time, you saw duane jefferson.
917 00:38:33,398 00:38:34,498 - No, I didn't. - No, I didn't.
918 00:38:34,566 00:38:36,800 Anybody who says that, they're lying. Anybody who says that, they're lying.
919 00:38:42,507 00:38:44,741 - Then when the three men came into your store, - Then when the three men came into your store,
920 00:38:44,809 00:38:47,211 Why did you shoot mr. Jefferson first? Why did you shoot mr. Jefferson first?
921 00:38:47,278 00:38:48,412 - I didn't. - I didn't.
922 00:38:48,480 00:38:49,580 - We heard forensic testimony - We heard forensic testimony
923 00:38:49,647 00:38:53,217 That proves you shot mr. Jefferson first. That proves you shot mr. Jefferson first.
924 00:38:53,284 00:38:55,953 - I was scared. They were beating gregory. - I was scared. They were beating gregory.
925 00:38:56,020 00:38:57,554 - Then why didn't you shoot the man - Then why didn't you shoot the man
926 00:38:57,622 00:38:59,089 Who was assaulting your employee? Who was assaulting your employee?
927 00:38:59,157 00:39:00,691 - I could have shot gregory. - I could have shot gregory.
928 00:39:00,758 00:39:03,460 - Gregory testified he was on the ground. - Gregory testified he was on the ground.
929 00:39:03,528 00:39:06,697 You had a clear shot at the man who was kicking him, You had a clear shot at the man who was kicking him,
930 00:39:06,764 00:39:08,866 The only man who was armed. The only man who was armed.
931 00:39:08,933 00:39:11,068 - I don't know. - I don't know.
932 00:39:11,135 00:39:12,603 It was very confusing. It was very confusing.
933 00:39:12,670 00:39:14,538 - I don't think you were confused - I don't think you were confused
934 00:39:14,606 00:39:16,840 At all, mr. Harkavy. At all, mr. Harkavy.
935 00:39:16,908 00:39:18,275 A realtor told you A realtor told you
936 00:39:18,343 00:39:20,077 How much your building was worth. How much your building was worth.
937 00:39:20,144 00:39:23,380 You recognized duane jefferson. You recognized duane jefferson.
938 00:39:23,448 00:39:26,083 You knew this was just a shakedown, You knew this was just a shakedown,
939 00:39:26,150 00:39:27,584 But you weren't gonna take it. But you weren't gonna take it.
940 00:39:27,652 00:39:30,921 You were gonna send a message to that punk, max purcell. You were gonna send a message to that punk, max purcell.
941 00:39:30,989 00:39:33,390 - I didn't plan this. - I didn't plan this.
942 00:39:33,458 00:39:35,559 All I wanted to do was go home that night, All I wanted to do was go home that night,
943 00:39:35,627 00:39:38,595 Watch my programs, do a crossword puzzle. Watch my programs, do a crossword puzzle.
944 00:39:38,663 00:39:41,298 But they came in looking for trouble. But they came in looking for trouble.
945 00:39:41,366 00:39:43,467 And I stood up for myself. And I stood up for myself.
946 00:39:43,535 00:39:47,037 There's nothing wrong with that, and you know it. There's nothing wrong with that, and you know it.
947 00:39:55,647 00:39:58,148 - Ever since he has become district attorney, - Ever since he has become district attorney,
948 00:39:58,216 00:39:59,983 Mr. Mccoy has used his office Mr. Mccoy has used his office
949 00:40:00,051 00:40:02,653 To pursue some quixotic, liberal wet dream. To pursue some quixotic, liberal wet dream.
950 00:40:02,720 00:40:05,522 Mr. Mccoy, why are you prosecuting stan harkavy? Mr. Mccoy, why are you prosecuting stan harkavy?
951 00:40:05,590 00:40:08,492 - I can't comment. Grand jury proceedings are secret. - I can't comment. Grand jury proceedings are secret.
952 00:40:08,560 00:40:09,826 - Then when are you gonna stop displaying - Then when are you gonna stop displaying
953 00:40:09,894 00:40:12,429 Such a decidedly liberal bias in your prosecutions? Such a decidedly liberal bias in your prosecutions?
954 00:40:12,497 00:40:14,698 - Since when is it liberal bias to stand up - Since when is it liberal bias to stand up
955 00:40:14,766 00:40:17,601 For human dignity and human life, for fairness For human dignity and human life, for fairness
956 00:40:17,669 00:40:18,702 Under the law? Under the law?
957 00:40:18,770 00:40:20,137 You should reexamine You should reexamine
958 00:40:20,204 00:40:21,638 Your own values, mr. Pewls, Your own values, mr. Pewls,
959 00:40:21,706 00:40:23,874 Before you start questioning mine. Before you start questioning mine.
960 00:40:30,014 00:40:32,482 - The jury's been deliberating for almost four hours. - The jury's been deliberating for almost four hours.
961 00:40:32,550 00:40:33,984 - We heard some raised voices. - We heard some raised voices.
962 00:40:34,052 00:40:36,486 - No doubt about it, it's a hot potato. - No doubt about it, it's a hot potato.
963 00:40:36,554 00:40:38,889 - Not to mention stan's a real charmer. - Not to mention stan's a real charmer.
964 00:40:41,759 00:40:43,627 - Thank you. - Thank you.
965 00:40:46,998 00:40:50,300 No true bill. No true bill.
966 00:40:50,368 00:40:52,970 - Sorry, jack. - Sorry, jack.
967 00:40:53,037 00:40:57,574 - These are the rules we play by. - These are the rules we play by.
968 00:40:57,642 00:41:01,411 - I guess that grand jury's made up of average joes like me. - I guess that grand jury's made up of average joes like me.
969 00:41:01,479 00:41:03,480 And when push came to shove, And when push came to shove,
970 00:41:03,548 00:41:06,550 They couldn't fault me for standing up for myself. They couldn't fault me for standing up for myself.
971 00:41:06,618 00:41:08,085 That's all I have to say. That's all I have to say.
972 00:41:08,152 00:41:10,153 I won't be doing any more interviews. I won't be doing any more interviews.
973 00:41:10,221 00:41:12,889 Good-bye. Good-bye.
974 00:41:12,957 00:41:15,225 I didn't hear you come in. I didn't hear you come in.
975 00:41:15,293 00:41:17,694 You got a 1040 you want me to take care of? You got a 1040 you want me to take care of?
976 00:41:17,762 00:41:20,664 - No, I just came to see how you were doing. - No, I just came to see how you were doing.
977 00:41:20,732 00:41:21,832 - I'm doing fine. - I'm doing fine.
978 00:41:21,899 00:41:23,266 The university made me an offer. The university made me an offer.
979 00:41:23,334 00:41:25,836 I'm gonna buy a condo in palm beach, I'm gonna buy a condo in palm beach,
980 00:41:25,903 00:41:26,837 Move down there. Move down there.
981 00:41:26,904 00:41:29,740 - So you got what you wanted. - So you got what you wanted.
982 00:41:29,807 00:41:33,010 - I didn't want it, not like this. - I didn't want it, not like this.
983 00:41:33,077 00:41:34,778 Fell in my lap. Fell in my lap.
984 00:41:34,846 00:41:36,279 - Maybe so. - Maybe so.
985 00:41:36,347 00:41:38,181 But I know you felt bad about it, But I know you felt bad about it,
986 00:41:38,249 00:41:40,951 And you had a chance to come clean. And you had a chance to come clean.
987 00:41:41,019 00:41:42,919 You didn't. You didn't.
988 00:41:44,856 00:41:47,824 - What do you know about anything? - What do you know about anything?
989 00:41:47,892 00:41:50,861 Talk to me in 40 years. Talk to me in 40 years.
990 00:41:55,433 00:41:58,468 Can I help you, ma'am? Can I help you, ma'am?
991 00:41:58,536 00:42:00,904 - I do my own taxes, mr. Harkavy. - I do my own taxes, mr. Harkavy.
992 00:42:00,972 00:42:04,174 I just wanted my son to meet a real live hero. I just wanted my son to meet a real live hero.
993 00:42:04,242 00:42:06,143 - What's your name, young man? - Eddie. - What's your name, young man? - Eddie.
994 00:42:06,210 00:42:08,741 - Nice to make your acquaintance, eddie. - Nice to make your acquaintance, eddie.
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