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1 00:00:05,535 00:00:07,369 - In the criminal justice system, - In the criminal justice system,
2 00:00:07,437 00:00:09,705 The people are represented by two separate The people are represented by two separate
3 00:00:09,772 00:00:11,340 Yet equally important groups, Yet equally important groups,
4 00:00:11,407 00:00:13,141 The police who investigate crime, The police who investigate crime,
5 00:00:13,209 00:00:16,144 And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders.
6 00:00:16,212 00:00:18,847 These are their stories. These are their stories.
7 00:00:18,915 00:00:22,050 - The evidence will clearly show that william avery - The evidence will clearly show that william avery
8 00:00:22,118 00:00:24,653 And taryn murdoch were illicit lovers And taryn murdoch were illicit lovers
9 00:00:24,721 00:00:27,890 Who conspired together to murder mrs. Murdoch's husband Who conspired together to murder mrs. Murdoch's husband
10 00:00:27,957 00:00:30,392 And collect his insurance. And collect his insurance.
11 00:00:30,460 00:00:31,460 You will hear from a witness You will hear from a witness
12 00:00:31,528 00:00:34,129 Who sold mr. Avery the murder weapon. Who sold mr. Avery the murder weapon.
13 00:00:34,197 00:00:37,900 You will also hear from mr. Avery's former girlfriend, You will also hear from mr. Avery's former girlfriend,
14 00:00:37,967 00:00:40,802 To whom he drunkenly bragged of his plan To whom he drunkenly bragged of his plan
15 00:00:40,870 00:00:43,238 To get rich by killing, quote, To get rich by killing, quote,
16 00:00:43,306 00:00:46,141 "some rich, old guy who was too dumb to live." "some rich, old guy who was too dumb to live."
17 00:00:46,209 00:00:50,812 It will be your duty to send him and his accomplice to prison It will be your duty to send him and his accomplice to prison
18 00:00:50,880 00:00:54,383 So we will all be safe from their lethal stupidity. So we will all be safe from their lethal stupidity.
19 00:00:59,656 00:01:00,889 - Defense reserves its opening. - Defense reserves its opening.
20 00:01:00,957 00:01:02,157 - Very well. - Very well.
21 00:01:02,225 00:01:04,626 The people may call their first witness. The people may call their first witness.
22 00:01:07,096 00:01:09,831 Is there a problem, mr. Cavanaugh? Is there a problem, mr. Cavanaugh?
23 00:01:09,899 00:01:13,702 - Um... - Um...
24 00:01:13,770 00:01:15,737 She's not here, your honor. She's not here, your honor.
25 00:01:15,805 00:01:18,173 - Front desk says that she's been a guest here for a week, - Front desk says that she's been a guest here for a week,
26 00:01:18,241 00:01:19,541 But I didn't see her until today. But I didn't see her until today.
27 00:01:19,609 00:01:21,944 She comes out, I ask her if she needs a cab, She comes out, I ask her if she needs a cab,
28 00:01:22,011 00:01:23,612 All of a sudden a blue audi-- All of a sudden a blue audi--
29 00:01:23,680 00:01:25,113 It was parked right over there-- It was parked right over there--
30 00:01:25,181 00:01:27,182 Starts up, drives over, and just starts shooting. Starts up, drives over, and just starts shooting.
31 00:01:27,250 00:01:28,584 You know, bang, bang, bang, bang. You know, bang, bang, bang, bang.
32 00:01:28,651 00:01:30,919 She goes down, car takes off, goes around the corner. She goes down, car takes off, goes around the corner.
33 00:01:30,987 00:01:32,120 - You catch a plate? - You catch a plate?
34 00:01:32,188 00:01:33,889 - Yeah. It was new york. - Yeah. It was new york.
35 00:01:33,957 00:01:36,458 I missed the last couple of numbers, though. I missed the last couple of numbers, though.
36 00:01:36,526 00:01:37,526 Sorry. Sorry.
37 00:01:37,594 00:01:39,127 - Okay, thanks. - Okay, thanks.
38 00:01:39,195 00:01:41,430 - She took one to the face, one to the body. - She took one to the face, one to the body.
39 00:01:41,497 00:01:44,032 - Shooter got a pigeon, too. - Shooter got a pigeon, too.
40 00:01:44,100 00:01:45,434 - Yeah. - Yeah.
41 00:01:45,501 00:01:47,002 Two shell casings. Forty-fives. Two shell casings. Forty-fives.
42 00:01:47,070 00:01:48,804 There might be some more around. - Detective? There might be some more around. - Detective?
43 00:01:48,871 00:01:51,173 - Ah, thanks. - Ah, thanks.
44 00:01:51,240 00:01:54,209 Maggie hayes. Address in the bronx. Maggie hayes. Address in the bronx.
45 00:01:54,277 00:01:56,612 - So why was she staying here? - So why was she staying here?
46 00:01:56,679 00:01:57,980 - Max cavanaugh. Manhattan d.A. - Max cavanaugh. Manhattan d.A.
47 00:01:58,047 00:01:59,414 - You're a little early. - You're a little early.
48 00:01:59,482 00:02:01,316 I don't think we're ready to arrest anybody yet. I don't think we're ready to arrest anybody yet.
49 00:02:01,384 00:02:03,485 - She was supposed to testify for me today. - She was supposed to testify for me today.
50 00:02:03,553 00:02:04,720 Murder case. Murder case.
51 00:02:04,787 00:02:06,922 - So she's staying here to hide from somebody. - So she's staying here to hide from somebody.
52 00:02:06,990 00:02:08,557 - Her ex-boyfriend's one of the defendants, - Her ex-boyfriend's one of the defendants,
53 00:02:08,625 00:02:09,825 Made some crazy threats. Made some crazy threats.
54 00:02:09,892 00:02:11,893 She lived and worked in the bronx, so we figured She lived and worked in the bronx, so we figured
55 00:02:11,961 00:02:14,262 Putting her in manhattan was good enough. Putting her in manhattan was good enough.
56 00:02:14,330 00:02:15,998 This doesn't do my case any good. This doesn't do my case any good.
57 00:02:16,065 00:02:17,366 - Sorry about that. - Sorry about that.
58 00:02:17,433 00:02:19,401 Her ex--any way he would know she was staying here? Her ex--any way he would know she was staying here?
59 00:02:19,469 00:02:21,236 - I told her not to tell anyone. - I told her not to tell anyone.
60 00:02:21,304 00:02:23,538 - Maybe a little birdie told him. - Maybe a little birdie told him.
61 00:02:28,696 00:02:34,925 Sync by ReHelen Sync by ReHelen
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63 00:03:15,991 00:03:17,585 - Maggie was crazy, man. - Maggie was crazy, man.
64 00:03:18,305 00:03:21,081 She partied hard, got high, gambled. She partied hard, got high, gambled.
65 00:03:21,149 00:03:23,250 There was this bar in greenpoint There was this bar in greenpoint
66 00:03:23,318 00:03:25,152 She would hang out at after work. She would hang out at after work.
67 00:03:25,220 00:03:28,122 I'd meet her there, see her with a whole lot of low-lifes. I'd meet her there, see her with a whole lot of low-lifes.
68 00:03:28,189 00:03:29,523 That's why I broke up with her. That's why I broke up with her.
69 00:03:29,591 00:03:31,625 - Because you disapproved of her lifestyle. - Because you disapproved of her lifestyle.
70 00:03:31,693 00:03:34,027 - That why you said, after you got arrested, - That why you said, after you got arrested,
71 00:03:34,095 00:03:35,462 That you'd kill her skanky ass? That you'd kill her skanky ass?
72 00:03:35,530 00:03:37,231 - That was an emotional day for me. - That was an emotional day for me.
73 00:03:37,298 00:03:38,899 - Mr. Avery and I - Mr. Avery and I
74 00:03:38,967 00:03:41,602 Are as shocked as anyone by this tragic death. Are as shocked as anyone by this tragic death.
75 00:03:41,669 00:03:43,504 - Happier than most though, I bet. - Happier than most though, I bet.
76 00:03:43,571 00:03:45,939 Maggie was going to finger you as a killer, will. Maggie was going to finger you as a killer, will.
77 00:03:46,007 00:03:47,808 - I didn't have nothing to do with this. - I didn't have nothing to do with this.
78 00:03:47,876 00:03:49,443 - Just like you didn't have anything to do - Just like you didn't have anything to do
79 00:03:49,511 00:03:50,878 With the murder you're on trial for. With the murder you're on trial for.
80 00:03:50,945 00:03:53,046 - We're not here to talk about his current trial. - We're not here to talk about his current trial.
81 00:03:53,114 00:03:54,948 Which, by the way, he was attending Which, by the way, he was attending
82 00:03:55,016 00:03:56,450 When ms. Hayes was killed. When ms. Hayes was killed.
83 00:03:56,518 00:03:57,818 I'm no detective, I'm no detective,
84 00:03:57,886 00:04:01,255 But that seems to me like a pretty good alibi. But that seems to me like a pretty good alibi.
85 00:04:05,360 00:04:07,628 - yeah? - yeah?
86 00:04:07,695 00:04:11,365 - Um, rtcc ran your partial license plate. - Um, rtcc ran your partial license plate.
87 00:04:11,433 00:04:13,434 A hundred--mm. A hundred--mm.
88 00:04:13,501 00:04:15,836 - Good sandwich, loo? - Good sandwich, loo?
89 00:04:15,904 00:04:18,505 - I got my appetite back for the first time in six weeks. - I got my appetite back for the first time in six weeks.
90 00:04:18,573 00:04:21,442 I'm taking advantage. Here. I'm taking advantage. Here.
91 00:04:21,509 00:04:23,977 Now there are a hundred possible matches for the plate. Now there are a hundred possible matches for the plate.
92 00:04:24,045 00:04:25,412 Not one is an audi. Not one is an audi.
93 00:04:25,480 00:04:28,549 So the doorman either got the make wrong, or the number. So the doorman either got the make wrong, or the number.
94 00:04:28,616 00:04:30,017 What do you have? What do you have?
95 00:04:30,084 00:04:32,719 - Well, william avery's told us he used to meet maggie hayes - Well, william avery's told us he used to meet maggie hayes
96 00:04:32,787 00:04:34,321 After work at a bar in greenpoint. After work at a bar in greenpoint.
97 00:04:34,389 00:04:36,857 According to the case d.A., maggie worked in the bronx. According to the case d.A., maggie worked in the bronx.
98 00:04:36,925 00:04:39,493 - Well, that's a long way from greenpoint. - Well, that's a long way from greenpoint.
99 00:04:39,561 00:04:42,062 That bar must have one hell of a happy hour. That bar must have one hell of a happy hour.
100 00:04:42,130 00:04:44,198 - Or maggie lied to the d.A. - Or maggie lied to the d.A.
101 00:04:44,265 00:04:47,134 Her employer of record was a payroll service in the bronx, Her employer of record was a payroll service in the bronx,
102 00:04:47,202 00:04:50,070 But she actually worked at amstrad shipping, in brooklyn. But she actually worked at amstrad shipping, in brooklyn.
103 00:04:50,138 00:04:52,372 - Shipping? - Shipping?
104 00:04:52,440 00:04:53,740 There're docks in greenpoint. There're docks in greenpoint.
105 00:04:53,808 00:04:57,377 Ooh, and there is this bakery down there Ooh, and there is this bakery down there
106 00:04:57,445 00:05:00,547 That makes an amazing key lime pie... That makes an amazing key lime pie...
107 00:05:00,615 00:05:02,316 - We're on it. - We're on it.
108 00:05:07,689 00:05:09,389 - I still can't believe it. - I still can't believe it.
109 00:05:09,457 00:05:10,557 When I heard about maggie... When I heard about maggie...
110 00:05:10,625 00:05:12,159 - You knew her pretty well, ms. Regan? - You knew her pretty well, ms. Regan?
111 00:05:12,227 00:05:14,495 - Paige. We ran the office together. - Paige. We ran the office together.
112 00:05:14,562 00:05:17,898 Maggie was really, uh, lively. Maggie was really, uh, lively.
113 00:05:17,966 00:05:21,001 Mr. Rainey, these are detectives. Mr. Rainey, these are detectives.
114 00:05:21,069 00:05:24,304 - Hello. Bart rainey. You're here about maggie. - Hello. Bart rainey. You're here about maggie.
115 00:05:24,372 00:05:26,507 It was that scumbag boyfriend, wasn't it? It was that scumbag boyfriend, wasn't it?
116 00:05:26,574 00:05:28,942 - You heard about that? - You heard about that?
117 00:05:29,010 00:05:30,878 - I knew she was testifying against him. - I knew she was testifying against him.
118 00:05:30,945 00:05:31,979 I knew she was scared. I knew she was scared.
119 00:05:32,046 00:05:34,181 She took off from here, disappeared. She took off from here, disappeared.
120 00:05:34,249 00:05:35,749 - You didn't know where she was? - You didn't know where she was?
121 00:05:35,817 00:05:36,750 - Nobody did. - Nobody did.
122 00:05:36,818 00:05:38,385 - Somebody did. - Somebody did.
123 00:05:38,453 00:05:39,686 - She didn't tell me. - She didn't tell me.
124 00:05:39,754 00:05:42,756 - Mr. Rainey. - Mr. Rainey.
125 00:05:42,824 00:05:45,292 What kind of business is this? What kind of business is this?
126 00:05:45,360 00:05:47,461 - Uh, we export used cars to latin america. - Uh, we export used cars to latin america.
127 00:05:47,529 00:05:48,695 They love 'em down there. They love 'em down there.
128 00:05:50,465 00:05:52,466 Looks like business is kind of slow. Looks like business is kind of slow.
129 00:05:52,534 00:05:54,134 - A shipment just went out. - A shipment just went out.
130 00:05:54,202 00:05:55,936 The recession's actually a good time for us. The recession's actually a good time for us.
131 00:05:56,004 00:05:58,272 Three-car families cutting down to two, you know? Three-car families cutting down to two, you know?
132 00:05:58,339 00:05:59,973 - '95 eddie bauer bronco, right? - '95 eddie bauer bronco, right?
133 00:06:00,041 00:06:01,575 I used to have one of those in college. I used to have one of those in college.
134 00:06:01,643 00:06:04,912 V8, skyjacker lift kit... V8, skyjacker lift kit...
135 00:06:04,979 00:06:06,346 Is it for sale? Is it for sale?
136 00:06:06,414 00:06:09,249 - Only if you can do better than 35,000 argentinean pesos. - Only if you can do better than 35,000 argentinean pesos.
137 00:06:09,317 00:06:10,884 - How much is that? - Nine grand. - How much is that? - Nine grand.
138 00:06:10,952 00:06:13,353 Told you. They love 'em down there. Told you. They love 'em down there.
139 00:06:13,421 00:06:15,155 - I'll check my piggy bank. Thanks, guys. - I'll check my piggy bank. Thanks, guys.
140 00:06:17,292 00:06:18,625 - You get the numbers? - You get the numbers?
141 00:06:18,693 00:06:19,760 - Yep. - Yep.
142 00:06:19,827 00:06:20,894 Think I fooled him? Think I fooled him?
143 00:06:20,962 00:06:21,995 - Nope. - Nope.
144 00:06:22,063 00:06:24,298 - We ran the bronco's plate. - We ran the bronco's plate.
145 00:06:24,365 00:06:25,999 It's supposed to be on a miata. It's supposed to be on a miata.
146 00:06:26,067 00:06:27,401 - Mismatched plates. - Mismatched plates.
147 00:06:27,468 00:06:29,703 Just like the blue audi the shooter was driving. Just like the blue audi the shooter was driving.
148 00:06:29,771 00:06:32,005 - So maybe our doorman wasn't wrong after all. - So maybe our doorman wasn't wrong after all.
149 00:06:32,073 00:06:33,740 - We did a little digging... - We did a little digging...
150 00:06:33,808 00:06:36,710 Turns out the feds have mr. Rainey on their radar Turns out the feds have mr. Rainey on their radar
151 00:06:36,778 00:06:38,745 As an associate of the pantano family. As an associate of the pantano family.
152 00:06:38,813 00:06:40,914 Loan sharking, extortion... Loan sharking, extortion...
153 00:06:40,982 00:06:44,017 - And now, exporting stolen cars to latin america. - And now, exporting stolen cars to latin america.
154 00:06:44,085 00:06:45,686 - Well, not exactly. - Well, not exactly.
155 00:06:45,753 00:06:47,387 We ran the bronco's vin. We ran the bronco's vin.
156 00:06:47,455 00:06:50,357 It was turned in under the cash for clunkers program. It was turned in under the cash for clunkers program.
157 00:06:50,425 00:06:52,159 - So it was supposed to be destroyed. - So it was supposed to be destroyed.
158 00:06:52,226 00:06:53,594 - Yeah, it got a reprieve. - Yeah, it got a reprieve.
159 00:06:53,661 00:06:55,495 It's going to buenos aires instead. It's going to buenos aires instead.
160 00:06:55,563 00:06:58,432 - Whole point was to get these gas guzzlers off our streets. - Whole point was to get these gas guzzlers off our streets.
161 00:06:58,499 00:07:01,068 Mr. Rainey figured out a way to put 'em on somebody else's. Mr. Rainey figured out a way to put 'em on somebody else's.
162 00:07:01,135 00:07:02,235 - That's creative. - That's creative.
163 00:07:02,303 00:07:04,371 Ozone gets messed up down there, Ozone gets messed up down there,
164 00:07:04,439 00:07:06,907 It's still going to bite us in the ass up here, right? It's still going to bite us in the ass up here, right?
165 00:07:06,975 00:07:08,075 - Could be rainey was worried - Could be rainey was worried
166 00:07:08,142 00:07:09,476 Maggie hays would spill the beans. Maggie hays would spill the beans.
167 00:07:09,544 00:07:11,278 He knew she was talking to cops and d.A.S. He knew she was talking to cops and d.A.S.
168 00:07:11,346 00:07:13,513 - But he said he didn't know where she was staying at. - But he said he didn't know where she was staying at.
169 00:07:13,581 00:07:14,615 - Not a clue. - Not a clue.
170 00:07:14,682 00:07:16,617 - And he wouldn't lie, right? - And he wouldn't lie, right?
171 00:07:18,252 00:07:20,520 - Check the hotel's surveillance video. - Check the hotel's surveillance video.
172 00:07:20,588 00:07:22,689 Thanks. Thanks.
173 00:07:24,993 00:07:27,394 - There. She's getting dinner again. - There. She's getting dinner again.
174 00:07:27,462 00:07:30,430 - That's... Tuesday night. - That's... Tuesday night.
175 00:07:30,498 00:07:33,834 She had spaghetti carbonara and german chocolate cake. She had spaghetti carbonara and german chocolate cake.
176 00:07:33,901 00:07:35,002 - Mm. - Mm.
177 00:07:35,069 00:07:37,471 No visitors. She never went out. No visitors. She never went out.
178 00:07:37,538 00:07:39,006 - She watched a lot of pay-per-view. - She watched a lot of pay-per-view.
179 00:07:39,073 00:07:41,742 And room service three times a day. And room service three times a day.
180 00:07:41,809 00:07:44,511 - Looks like that guy's getting some room service too. - Looks like that guy's getting some room service too.
181 00:07:49,150 00:07:50,784 Hey... Hey...
182 00:07:50,852 00:07:51,985 Hold up, slow it down. Hold up, slow it down.
183 00:07:56,024 00:07:57,090 - Is that rainey? - Is that rainey?
184 00:07:57,158 00:07:59,326 - Blow it up. - Blow it up.
185 00:08:00,795 00:08:02,629 - Not exactly. - Not exactly.
186 00:08:02,697 00:08:04,998 Paige regan. Maggie's friend from the office, Paige regan. Maggie's friend from the office,
187 00:08:05,066 00:08:06,500 Who didn't know where maggie was. Who didn't know where maggie was.
188 00:08:06,567 00:08:07,801 - Yeah. - Yeah.
189 00:08:07,869 00:08:11,138 Liar liar, pants on fire. Liar liar, pants on fire.
190 00:08:16,192 00:08:17,292 - Ms. Regan... - Ms. Regan...
191 00:08:17,360 00:08:19,928 - Oh. Hey, mr. Rainey's still inside - Oh. Hey, mr. Rainey's still inside
192 00:08:19,996 00:08:21,096 If you want to talk to-- If you want to talk to--
193 00:08:21,163 00:08:22,664 - Actually, we're here to talk to you. - Actually, we're here to talk to you.
194 00:08:22,732 00:08:25,033 - Well, I told you everything I know. - Well, I told you everything I know.
195 00:08:25,101 00:08:26,167 - Like, for example, - Like, for example,
196 00:08:26,235 00:08:28,470 You had no idea where maggie was hiding. You had no idea where maggie was hiding.
197 00:08:33,776 00:08:35,443 - Look, I have a boyfriend. - Look, I have a boyfriend.
198 00:08:35,511 00:08:38,380 The thing with maggie, it was kind of on the down low. The thing with maggie, it was kind of on the down low.
199 00:08:38,447 00:08:40,215 - How did maggie feel about that? - How did maggie feel about that?
200 00:08:40,282 00:08:42,317 You two maybe have a lovers' quarrel? You two maybe have a lovers' quarrel?
201 00:08:42,385 00:08:43,685 - No. My god. - No. My god.
202 00:08:43,753 00:08:47,555 Look, she was lonely in that hotel, so she called me. Look, she was lonely in that hotel, so she called me.
203 00:08:47,623 00:08:49,324 - We can check your phone records, ms. Regan, - We can check your phone records, ms. Regan,
204 00:08:49,392 00:08:50,525 And see who called who. And see who called who.
205 00:08:50,593 00:08:53,928 Who else knew maggie was there? Who else knew maggie was there?
206 00:08:53,996 00:08:55,230 - Did you tell your boss? - Did you tell your boss?
207 00:08:55,297 00:08:58,600 - Mr. Rainey? - Yes. Mr. Rainey. - Mr. Rainey? - Yes. Mr. Rainey.
208 00:08:58,668 00:09:01,269 And did he ever drive a blue audi, by the way? And did he ever drive a blue audi, by the way?
209 00:09:01,337 00:09:03,071 - I don't know. Why? - I don't know. Why?
210 00:09:03,139 00:09:05,040 - That's what maggie's killer was driving. - That's what maggie's killer was driving.
211 00:09:05,107 00:09:07,642 my god... my god...
212 00:09:07,710 00:09:10,945 I can't talk to you. I have to go. I can't talk to you. I have to go.
213 00:09:14,050 00:09:15,483 - She kept looking at the warehouse - She kept looking at the warehouse
214 00:09:15,551 00:09:17,318 Like rainey was going to come out and bite her. Like rainey was going to come out and bite her.
215 00:09:17,386 00:09:18,653 - With a .45. - With a .45.
216 00:09:18,721 00:09:20,288 She knows it was him. She knows it was him.
217 00:09:20,356 00:09:22,891 She also knows what happens to people who talk about him. She also knows what happens to people who talk about him.
218 00:09:22,958 00:09:25,627 - So we have a witness, but she won't talk. - So we have a witness, but she won't talk.
219 00:09:25,695 00:09:27,962 What about the famous blue audi? What about the famous blue audi?
220 00:09:28,030 00:09:30,098 - It's on the m.V. Herman melville-- - It's on the m.V. Herman melville--
221 00:09:30,166 00:09:31,866 It's a cargo ship. It's a cargo ship.
222 00:09:31,934 00:09:35,036 It took on 87 cars from amstrad shipping It took on 87 cars from amstrad shipping
223 00:09:35,104 00:09:36,638 A few hours after the murder. A few hours after the murder.
224 00:09:36,706 00:09:40,442 Among them--a 1999 audi a6. Among them--a 1999 audi a6.
225 00:09:40,509 00:09:42,110 Color, blue. Color, blue.
226 00:09:42,178 00:09:43,945 - Where is it now? - Where is it now?
227 00:09:44,013 00:09:45,113 - In the caribbean. - In the caribbean.
228 00:09:45,181 00:09:48,249 A day out of barranquilla, colombia. A day out of barranquilla, colombia.
229 00:09:48,317 00:09:49,484 You want us to hop down there? You want us to hop down there?
230 00:09:49,552 00:09:51,119 It's getting pretty chilly around here. It's getting pretty chilly around here.
231 00:09:51,187 00:09:52,620 - Save your sunblock. - Save your sunblock.
232 00:09:52,688 00:09:55,790 - Nypd intel has a detective in bogot�. - Nypd intel has a detective in bogot�.
233 00:09:55,858 00:09:57,926 - I'll get you a sweater. - I'll get you a sweater.
234 00:10:00,930 00:10:03,565 - We found the audi. It's our murder car. - We found the audi. It's our murder car.
235 00:10:03,632 00:10:05,333 - And it's in south america? - And it's in south america?
236 00:10:05,401 00:10:08,970 - In the personal custody of nypd detective kevin dolan. - In the personal custody of nypd detective kevin dolan.
237 00:10:09,038 00:10:11,339 Colombian authorities seized it at his request. Colombian authorities seized it at his request.
238 00:10:11,407 00:10:12,974 He searched it and found He searched it and found
239 00:10:13,042 00:10:15,410 A .45-calibre shell casing under a floor mat. A .45-calibre shell casing under a floor mat.
240 00:10:15,478 00:10:17,912 - He uploaded it into atf's e-trace system. - He uploaded it into atf's e-trace system.
241 00:10:17,980 00:10:20,548 It matches the shell casings at the crime scene. It matches the shell casings at the crime scene.
242 00:10:20,616 00:10:22,450 - So now all we have to do is put bart rainey - So now all we have to do is put bart rainey
243 00:10:22,518 00:10:24,152 In that car at the time of the murder. In that car at the time of the murder.
244 00:10:24,220 00:10:26,454 - We think we have someone who can do that. - We think we have someone who can do that.
245 00:10:26,522 00:10:28,757 - That would be the victim's lesbian lover - That would be the victim's lesbian lover
246 00:10:28,824 00:10:30,658 Who's too scared to testify. Who's too scared to testify.
247 00:10:30,726 00:10:33,261 - We were thinking we would make her too scared not to. - We were thinking we would make her too scared not to.
248 00:10:33,329 00:10:34,829 This is the ship's manifest. This is the ship's manifest.
249 00:10:34,897 00:10:36,664 Look at the signature. Look at the signature.
250 00:10:36,732 00:10:38,800 - "paige regan." - "paige regan."
251 00:10:38,868 00:10:42,971 So ms. Regan is on the hook for grand larceny. So ms. Regan is on the hook for grand larceny.
252 00:10:43,038 00:10:45,140 Not to mention enterprise corruption-- Not to mention enterprise corruption--
253 00:10:45,207 00:10:48,143 - ...Falsifying business records, and fraud. - ...Falsifying business records, and fraud.
254 00:10:48,210 00:10:50,578 That adds up to about 75 years That adds up to about 75 years
255 00:10:50,646 00:10:52,313 Unless you tell us what you know. Unless you tell us what you know.
256 00:10:52,381 00:10:53,681 - He'll kill me. - He'll kill me.
257 00:10:53,749 00:10:56,251 - Rainey? Like he killed maggie? - Rainey? Like he killed maggie?
258 00:11:02,758 00:11:05,126 Have a seat. Have a seat.
259 00:11:11,934 00:11:15,003 - He told me to find out where she was. - He told me to find out where she was.
260 00:11:15,070 00:11:19,040 He said he had to see her about some problem He said he had to see her about some problem
261 00:11:19,108 00:11:22,076 With the books and I...I believed him. With the books and I...I believed him.
262 00:11:22,144 00:11:25,079 I called her up and made a date. I called her up and made a date.
263 00:11:25,147 00:11:28,049 I wanted to see her anyway. I wanted to see her anyway.
264 00:11:28,117 00:11:30,919 - So you told rainey where she was. - So you told rainey where she was.
265 00:11:32,988 00:11:37,125 The next day, when maggie was killed... The next day, when maggie was killed...
266 00:11:37,193 00:11:39,761 I thought it was her old boyfriend. I thought it was her old boyfriend.
267 00:11:39,829 00:11:42,130 That's what I told myself. That's what I told myself.
268 00:11:42,198 00:11:45,200 Then you told me about the blue car. Then you told me about the blue car.
269 00:11:45,267 00:11:48,603 Rainey drove it that afternoon. Rainey drove it that afternoon.
270 00:11:48,671 00:11:50,772 - The afternoon that maggie was shot. - The afternoon that maggie was shot.
271 00:11:55,077 00:11:56,678 - There's a lawyer out there - There's a lawyer out there
272 00:11:56,745 00:11:59,314 Who says he represents ms. Regan. Who says he represents ms. Regan.
273 00:11:59,381 00:12:03,284 I said I'd see if there was anyone in here by that name. I said I'd see if there was anyone in here by that name.
274 00:12:03,352 00:12:04,986 - I didn't send for a lawyer. - I didn't send for a lawyer.
275 00:12:06,822 00:12:08,957 - Wait here. - Wait here.
276 00:12:11,393 00:12:12,927 - You remember mr. Woll? - You remember mr. Woll?
277 00:12:12,995 00:12:14,996 - Sure. - Sure.
278 00:12:15,064 00:12:17,031 Heroic lawyer of the mexican drug cartel. Heroic lawyer of the mexican drug cartel.
279 00:12:17,099 00:12:20,101 - He said he understood there was a paige regan here. - He said he understood there was a paige regan here.
280 00:12:20,169 00:12:23,238 - Really? How did you understand that? - Really? How did you understand that?
281 00:12:23,305 00:12:24,639 - She didn't come to work today. - She didn't come to work today.
282 00:12:24,707 00:12:26,140 Her employer was concerned, Her employer was concerned,
283 00:12:26,208 00:12:27,976 He called her apartment and her roommate said He called her apartment and her roommate said
284 00:12:28,043 00:12:29,310 The police had taken her. The police had taken her.
285 00:12:29,378 00:12:30,778 - Her employer, mr. Rainey. - Her employer, mr. Rainey.
286 00:12:30,846 00:12:32,146 - That's right. Is she here? - That's right. Is she here?
287 00:12:34,283 00:12:36,918 - Mr. Rainey must have gotten some bad information. - Mr. Rainey must have gotten some bad information.
288 00:12:38,654 00:12:42,757 - Well, then. - Well, then.
289 00:12:42,825 00:12:45,493 Sorry to bother you. Sorry to bother you.
290 00:12:49,365 00:12:51,566 - He's probably going right back to rainey to report. - He's probably going right back to rainey to report.
291 00:12:51,634 00:12:54,068 - Yeah, well, we could have asked him for a ride. - Yeah, well, we could have asked him for a ride.
292 00:12:59,375 00:13:00,775 - I could have given you a ride. - I could have given you a ride.
293 00:13:00,843 00:13:01,943 - Another time. - Another time.
294 00:13:02,011 00:13:03,311 - Stand up. - Stand up.
295 00:13:03,379 00:13:06,080 You're under arrest for the murder of maggie hayes. You're under arrest for the murder of maggie hayes.
296 00:13:06,148 00:13:07,715 - Whatever paige told you, she's lying. - Whatever paige told you, she's lying.
297 00:13:07,783 00:13:09,450 - You have the right to remain silent. - You have the right to remain silent.
298 00:13:09,518 00:13:10,919 You have the right to an attorney -- You have the right to an attorney --
299 00:13:10,986 00:13:12,453 - We've got that covered, thanks. - We've got that covered, thanks.
300 00:13:15,124 00:13:16,858 - Okay, mr. Woll, what do we have? - Okay, mr. Woll, what do we have?
301 00:13:16,926 00:13:19,961 - A flagrant abuse of prosecutorial power, your honor. - A flagrant abuse of prosecutorial power, your honor.
302 00:13:20,029 00:13:22,997 - Again? Not like when you were a d.A., eh? - Again? Not like when you were a d.A., eh?
303 00:13:23,065 00:13:25,433 - I'm afraid those golden days are gone. - I'm afraid those golden days are gone.
304 00:13:25,501 00:13:27,769 A motion to suppress all evidence found A motion to suppress all evidence found
305 00:13:27,836 00:13:29,804 Inside a blue audi automobile. Inside a blue audi automobile.
306 00:13:31,674 00:13:34,642 - This automobile was searched in colombia, south america? - This automobile was searched in colombia, south america?
307 00:13:34,710 00:13:35,944 - Under a judicial order - Under a judicial order
308 00:13:36,011 00:13:38,179 Obtained from a competent local authority. Obtained from a competent local authority.
309 00:13:38,247 00:13:39,380 - Any such order is tainted. - Any such order is tainted.
310 00:13:39,448 00:13:42,016 That entire country is irredeemably corrupt. That entire country is irredeemably corrupt.
311 00:13:42,084 00:13:45,186 - Mr. Woll may be generalizing from the latin americans - Mr. Woll may be generalizing from the latin americans
312 00:13:45,254 00:13:46,888 He hangs out with, your honor. He hangs out with, your honor.
313 00:13:46,956 00:13:49,824 But there's no evidence of corruption in this case. But there's no evidence of corruption in this case.
314 00:13:49,892 00:13:52,860 - An nypd detective was involved every step of the way. - An nypd detective was involved every step of the way.
315 00:13:52,928 00:13:55,496 We have his affidavit and can fly him up to testify. We have his affidavit and can fly him up to testify.
316 00:13:55,564 00:13:58,766 - Unless you have something specific, mr. Woll, - Unless you have something specific, mr. Woll,
317 00:13:58,834 00:14:00,368 The motion is denied. The motion is denied.
318 00:14:04,907 00:14:06,541 - Win some, lose some, eh, guys? - Win some, lose some, eh, guys?
319 00:14:06,608 00:14:09,043 I guess I'm just gonna have to beat you the old-fashioned way. I guess I'm just gonna have to beat you the old-fashioned way.
320 00:14:09,111 00:14:11,312 - Nice to see you again too, marcus. - Nice to see you again too, marcus.
321 00:14:11,380 00:14:13,348 - Frankly, mike, you I can take or leave, - Frankly, mike, you I can take or leave,
322 00:14:13,415 00:14:15,850 But connie... When are you going to leave But connie... When are you going to leave
323 00:14:15,918 00:14:18,019 These bureaucrats and come work for my firm? These bureaucrats and come work for my firm?
324 00:14:18,087 00:14:19,620 - Oh, I really couldn't say. - Oh, I really couldn't say.
325 00:14:19,688 00:14:21,723 - Ooh...Heartbreaker. - Ooh...Heartbreaker.
326 00:14:21,790 00:14:23,891 Hey, look, I know you're not obligated, Hey, look, I know you're not obligated,
327 00:14:23,959 00:14:25,326 But I'd love to get But I'd love to get
328 00:14:25,394 00:14:27,895 A pre-trial peek at your witness, ms. Regan. A pre-trial peek at your witness, ms. Regan.
329 00:14:27,963 00:14:29,230 Just ask a few questions. Just ask a few questions.
330 00:14:29,298 00:14:31,065 Your setting, your ground rules. Your setting, your ground rules.
331 00:14:31,133 00:14:32,900 - No offense, but the last time you beat us - No offense, but the last time you beat us
332 00:14:32,968 00:14:34,502 The old-fashioned way, it was because The old-fashioned way, it was because
333 00:14:34,570 00:14:37,939 Our main witness was terrified out of testifying Our main witness was terrified out of testifying
334 00:14:38,007 00:14:39,774 By the murder of one of his friends. By the murder of one of his friends.
335 00:14:39,842 00:14:43,444 You can peek at ms. Regan all you want You can peek at ms. Regan all you want
336 00:14:43,512 00:14:46,147 When she takes the stand. When she takes the stand.
337 00:14:58,494 00:15:00,495 - Gin. - Gin.
338 00:15:01,897 00:15:03,898 I hate this stupid game. I hate this stupid game.
339 00:15:03,966 00:15:07,035 what happens to me after the trial? what happens to me after the trial?
340 00:15:07,102 00:15:09,570 - Well, the d.A. Looks at the situation-- - Well, the d.A. Looks at the situation--
341 00:15:09,638 00:15:11,239 If rainey was convicted or not, If rainey was convicted or not,
342 00:15:11,306 00:15:12,673 If he's still a threat to you or not. If he's still a threat to you or not.
343 00:15:12,741 00:15:14,375 - Are you going to move me to some little town - Are you going to move me to some little town
344 00:15:14,443 00:15:15,777 In north dakota? In north dakota?
345 00:15:15,844 00:15:17,011 I don't know how to grow wheat. I don't know how to grow wheat.
346 00:15:18,380 00:15:20,681 - Speaking of nature... Excuse me. - Speaking of nature... Excuse me.
347 00:15:24,420 00:15:26,087 - Does he have a girlfriend? - Does he have a girlfriend?
348 00:15:26,155 00:15:28,723 - I thought you had a girlfriend. - I thought you had a girlfriend.
349 00:15:30,826 00:15:34,095 - hey. I got it. - hey. I got it.
350 00:15:40,936 00:15:42,503 - How we doing? - How we doing?
351 00:15:42,571 00:15:43,704 - Great. - Great.
352 00:15:43,772 00:15:45,073 - I just need to go over a few things - I just need to go over a few things
353 00:15:45,140 00:15:47,608 With ms. Regan about her testimony... With ms. Regan about her testimony...
354 00:15:47,676 00:15:49,077 - Go nuts. - Go nuts.
355 00:15:49,144 00:15:51,179 - How are you doing? - How are you doing?
356 00:15:52,815 00:15:55,216 - I've gained seven pounds. - I've gained seven pounds.
357 00:15:55,284 00:15:57,385 You want some ice cream? You want some ice cream?
358 00:15:57,453 00:16:00,621 - You're doing the right thing, paige. - You're doing the right thing, paige.
359 00:16:00,689 00:16:02,790 Do you mind if I turn this tv down? Do you mind if I turn this tv down?
360 00:16:06,295 00:16:08,963 - room service. - room service.
361 00:16:09,031 00:16:10,298 - Whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait. - Whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait.
362 00:16:10,365 00:16:12,100 - It's just room service. - No, no, no, no. - It's just room service. - No, no, no, no.
363 00:16:12,167 00:16:13,234 - Hey! - Wait, paige! - Hey! - Wait, paige!
364 00:16:15,571 00:16:17,238 - Hey, you hit? - Go! - Hey, you hit? - Go!
365 00:16:18,807 00:16:20,508 - Police! Get down! Get down! - Police! Get down! Get down!
366 00:16:22,644 00:16:24,245 Police! Stay down! Police! Stay down!
367 00:16:52,247 00:16:54,161 - Where are we going? - A different hotel. - Where are we going? - A different hotel.
368 00:16:54,196 00:16:55,707 - Wait. No. Why? - Wait. No. Why?
369 00:16:55,707 00:16:57,989 - For one thing, it's obviously not safe for you here. - For one thing, it's obviously not safe for you here.
370 00:16:57,989 00:16:59,627 - No. I want to get out of town. - No. I want to get out of town.
371 00:16:59,627 00:17:01,216 - No one will know where we're taking you. - No one will know where we're taking you.
372 00:17:01,216 00:17:02,882 - No one was supposed to know I was here. - No one was supposed to know I was here.
373 00:17:02,882 00:17:05,992 Take me to the port authority. Or I'll walk. Take me to the port authority. Or I'll walk.
374 00:17:06,529 00:17:07,895 How much more dangerous can it be? How much more dangerous can it be?
375 00:17:07,963 00:17:10,531 - Get in the car. I'll take you wherever you want. - Get in the car. I'll take you wherever you want.
376 00:17:10,599 00:17:14,402 Okay? Please, thank you. Okay? Please, thank you.
377 00:17:16,772 00:17:18,305 looks like I'm taking a drive. looks like I'm taking a drive.
378 00:17:18,373 00:17:22,109 - Yeah...Shooting team's waiting for me upstairs. - Yeah...Shooting team's waiting for me upstairs.
379 00:17:22,177 00:17:24,779 - You okay? - You okay?
380 00:17:24,846 00:17:25,846 - Yeah. - Yeah.
381 00:17:28,417 00:17:31,752 - Detective lupo drove her to her sister's house in watertown. - Detective lupo drove her to her sister's house in watertown.
382 00:17:31,820 00:17:33,187 - Will she come back for the trial? - Will she come back for the trial?
383 00:17:33,255 00:17:34,922 - She says no. - She says no.
384 00:17:34,990 00:17:36,390 We can try and convince her We can try and convince her
385 00:17:36,458 00:17:38,292 Or arrest her as a material witness. Or arrest her as a material witness.
386 00:17:41,863 00:17:44,432 - Are you sure you're all right? - Are you sure you're all right?
387 00:17:44,499 00:17:46,033 - Yeah, I'm fine. - Yeah, I'm fine.
388 00:17:46,101 00:17:49,303 It all happened so fast I barely knew what was going on. It all happened so fast I barely knew what was going on.
389 00:17:49,371 00:17:51,105 - Look, I mean, if you need some time off... - Look, I mean, if you need some time off...
390 00:17:51,173 00:17:53,040 - I want to keep working. - I want to keep working.
391 00:17:56,111 00:17:57,678 - What about the shooter? - What about the shooter?
392 00:17:57,746 00:18:01,749 - He was a freelancer from out of town. - He was a freelancer from out of town.
393 00:18:01,817 00:18:04,251 We're still looking for connections. We're still looking for connections.
394 00:18:04,319 00:18:08,022 - And he knew that paige regan was in that hotel how? - And he knew that paige regan was in that hotel how?
395 00:18:08,090 00:18:09,523 - We don't know. - We don't know.
396 00:18:09,591 00:18:12,693 Nobody knew except you and me and the detectives. Nobody knew except you and me and the detectives.
397 00:18:12,761 00:18:15,963 - Now we all we need is another witness - Now we all we need is another witness
398 00:18:16,031 00:18:17,531 Who can tell us what paige knew Who can tell us what paige knew
399 00:18:17,599 00:18:19,433 About the murder of maggie hayes, About the murder of maggie hayes,
400 00:18:19,501 00:18:21,535 About rainey's business, About rainey's business,
401 00:18:21,603 00:18:23,771 About his being in the murder car... About his being in the murder car...
402 00:18:23,839 00:18:26,173 - People aren't exactly lining up to testify against him. - People aren't exactly lining up to testify against him.
403 00:18:26,241 00:18:28,943 He kills one witness, nearly kills another. He kills one witness, nearly kills another.
404 00:18:29,010 00:18:31,979 - Did somebody tell rainey that maggie was ratting him out? - Did somebody tell rainey that maggie was ratting him out?
405 00:18:32,047 00:18:34,949 Someone who might've known that rainey would kill her? Someone who might've known that rainey would kill her?
406 00:18:35,016 00:18:37,451 - Someone like william avery. - Someone like william avery.
407 00:18:37,519 00:18:42,022 - It was certainly in his interest for her to be killed. - It was certainly in his interest for her to be killed.
408 00:18:44,626 00:18:46,660 - So you think avery slipped word to rainey - So you think avery slipped word to rainey
409 00:18:46,728 00:18:49,463 That maggie was ratting him out so that rainey would kill her? That maggie was ratting him out so that rainey would kill her?
410 00:18:49,531 00:18:51,031 - What do you think? - What do you think?
411 00:18:51,099 00:18:53,467 - I think that's about 50 I.Q. Points too high - I think that's about 50 I.Q. Points too high
412 00:18:53,535 00:18:54,869 For will avery. For will avery.
413 00:18:54,936 00:18:58,038 He was convicted after the d.A. Found a video of himself He was convicted after the d.A. Found a video of himself
414 00:18:58,106 00:19:01,408 He put on youtube waving the murder weapon around. He put on youtube waving the murder weapon around.
415 00:19:01,476 00:19:04,578 I tried to get it excluded. I tried to get it excluded.
416 00:19:04,646 00:19:06,113 Here's my motion. Here's my motion.
417 00:19:06,181 00:19:09,950 - So the d.A. Didn't even need maggie hayes' testimony? - So the d.A. Didn't even need maggie hayes' testimony?
418 00:19:10,018 00:19:11,485 - It wouldn't have helped him anyway. - It wouldn't have helped him anyway.
419 00:19:11,553 00:19:14,288 I knew she worked for rainey, and I know who rainey is. I knew she worked for rainey, and I know who rainey is.
420 00:19:14,356 00:19:15,856 If she took the stand, If she took the stand,
421 00:19:15,924 00:19:17,158 I was going to slam her on cross I was going to slam her on cross
422 00:19:17,225 00:19:18,726 With the fact that she worked for a mobster. With the fact that she worked for a mobster.
423 00:19:18,794 00:19:21,562 - You were going to expose rainey in open court? - You were going to expose rainey in open court?
424 00:19:21,630 00:19:24,198 - She worked for a crook, which made her a crook. - She worked for a crook, which made her a crook.
425 00:19:24,266 00:19:25,900 Her testimony would have been worthless. Her testimony would have been worthless.
426 00:19:25,967 00:19:28,636 - Did you mention this plan to rainey? - Did you mention this plan to rainey?
427 00:19:28,703 00:19:30,204 - No. - No.
428 00:19:30,272 00:19:33,374 - This motion you filed, it's quite a treatise. - This motion you filed, it's quite a treatise.
429 00:19:33,441 00:19:36,076 Since when do you guys at legal aid have the time? Since when do you guys at legal aid have the time?
430 00:19:36,144 00:19:38,479 - I had an outside consultant. - I had an outside consultant.
431 00:19:38,547 00:19:41,081 A defense lawyer in a private practice volunteered A defense lawyer in a private practice volunteered
432 00:19:41,149 00:19:42,283 To do some pro bono work. To do some pro bono work.
433 00:19:42,350 00:19:44,652 - Did he or she know - Did he or she know
434 00:19:44,719 00:19:46,921 That you were planning to expose bart rainey? That you were planning to expose bart rainey?
435 00:19:46,988 00:19:48,656 - I guess. - I guess.
436 00:19:48,723 00:19:51,158 He used to work for you guys, you probably know him. He used to work for you guys, you probably know him.
437 00:19:51,226 00:19:52,526 - Marcus woll? - Marcus woll?
438 00:19:52,594 00:19:55,796 - Every case this guy touches, someone drops dead. - Every case this guy touches, someone drops dead.
439 00:19:55,864 00:19:57,832 He got involved in the will avery case He got involved in the will avery case
440 00:19:57,899 00:19:59,934 'cause he wanted to find out what maggie was saying. 'cause he wanted to find out what maggie was saying.
441 00:20:00,001 00:20:01,602 When he learned that her testimony When he learned that her testimony
442 00:20:01,670 00:20:03,871 Was gonna mean trouble for bart rainey, Was gonna mean trouble for bart rainey,
443 00:20:03,939 00:20:06,407 He reported back to rainey... He reported back to rainey...
444 00:20:06,474 00:20:07,641 Maggie got killed. Maggie got killed.
445 00:20:07,709 00:20:10,244 - What about the attempt to kill paige regan? - What about the attempt to kill paige regan?
446 00:20:10,312 00:20:12,179 Rainey didn't need woll to tell him Rainey didn't need woll to tell him
447 00:20:12,247 00:20:13,914 She was going to testify against him. She was going to testify against him.
448 00:20:13,982 00:20:16,283 - No. But he needed woll to tell him where to find her. - No. But he needed woll to tell him where to find her.
449 00:20:16,351 00:20:17,852 - How would woll know that? - How would woll know that?
450 00:20:17,919 00:20:21,255 - When I worked with him when he was an a.D.A., - When I worked with him when he was an a.D.A.,
451 00:20:21,323 00:20:23,891 We used a few hotels to hide witnesses. We used a few hotels to hide witnesses.
452 00:20:23,959 00:20:25,993 I used one of those hotels to hide paige. I used one of those hotels to hide paige.
453 00:20:26,061 00:20:28,462 - So woll told rainey where to look. - So woll told rainey where to look.
454 00:20:31,233 00:20:34,101 Woll's a serial killer, Woll's a serial killer,
455 00:20:34,169 00:20:37,171 And he used to work for us. And he used to work for us.
456 00:20:37,239 00:20:38,339 Apply for a warrant Apply for a warrant
457 00:20:38,406 00:20:40,574 To bug his conversations with mr. Rainey. To bug his conversations with mr. Rainey.
458 00:20:45,247 00:20:47,381 - You want to eavesdrop on an attorney's conversations - You want to eavesdrop on an attorney's conversations
459 00:20:47,449 00:20:48,616 With his client? With his client?
460 00:20:48,683 00:20:50,351 - When they're plotting murders together, - When they're plotting murders together,
461 00:20:50,418 00:20:52,553 That's an exception to the attorney-client privilege. That's an exception to the attorney-client privilege.
462 00:20:52,621 00:20:53,854 - Well, a situation like this, - Well, a situation like this,
463 00:20:53,922 00:20:56,223 The probable cause had better be pretty damn good. The probable cause had better be pretty damn good.
464 00:20:56,291 00:20:58,392 I'm not seeing very much. I'm not seeing very much.
465 00:20:58,460 00:21:01,428 - That's because until now, mr. Woll's criminal behavior - That's because until now, mr. Woll's criminal behavior
466 00:21:01,496 00:21:04,665 Has been shielded by attorney-client privilege. Has been shielded by attorney-client privilege.
467 00:21:04,733 00:21:07,801 - Catch-22. I loved that book. - Catch-22. I loved that book.
468 00:21:07,869 00:21:10,804 I'm still going to need to see something more. I'm still going to need to see something more.
469 00:21:14,075 00:21:16,076 - How'd it go with the judge? - How'd it go with the judge?
470 00:21:18,880 00:21:21,348 I've been working in this building for 17 years. I've been working in this building for 17 years.
471 00:21:21,416 00:21:23,517 If someone goes to a judge ex parte about something If someone goes to a judge ex parte about something
472 00:21:23,585 00:21:25,853 That concerns me, I hear about it. That concerns me, I hear about it.
473 00:21:25,921 00:21:27,588 - False alarm, marcus. - False alarm, marcus.
474 00:21:27,656 00:21:29,623 This had nothing to do with you, okay? This had nothing to do with you, okay?
475 00:21:31,126 00:21:34,028 - You know, when I was an assistant district attorney, - You know, when I was an assistant district attorney,
476 00:21:34,095 00:21:36,030 I won 102 convictions. I won 102 convictions.
477 00:21:36,097 00:21:37,464 I put an awful lot of people in jail. I put an awful lot of people in jail.
478 00:21:37,532 00:21:38,933 You remember, connie? You remember, connie?
479 00:21:39,000 00:21:40,467 - We only worked together briefly. - We only worked together briefly.
480 00:21:40,535 00:21:43,137 - Right. - Right.
481 00:21:43,204 00:21:46,340 If word got around-- somehow-- If word got around-- somehow--
482 00:21:46,408 00:21:48,909 That I was the kind of lawyer who crossed the line... That I was the kind of lawyer who crossed the line...
483 00:21:48,977 00:21:51,111 That I was dirty... That I was dirty...
484 00:21:51,179 00:21:52,680 How long do you think it would be before How long do you think it would be before
485 00:21:52,747 00:21:55,416 102 attorneys popped up with 102 motions 102 attorneys popped up with 102 motions
486 00:21:55,483 00:21:57,851 To overturn every one of my convictions? To overturn every one of my convictions?
487 00:22:00,055 00:22:02,256 Do you really have that kind of spare time on your hands? Do you really have that kind of spare time on your hands?
488 00:22:08,697 00:22:10,564 - The balls on this guy, blackmailing us. - The balls on this guy, blackmailing us.
489 00:22:10,632 00:22:12,333 - It's pretty good blackmail too. - It's pretty good blackmail too.
490 00:22:12,400 00:22:14,101 Do we really want to deal with the appeals Do we really want to deal with the appeals
491 00:22:14,169 00:22:16,537 From everybody woll ever put away? From everybody woll ever put away?
492 00:22:16,604 00:22:18,472 - We're not going to let a killer go free - We're not going to let a killer go free
493 00:22:18,540 00:22:21,041 Because we're afraid of a little paperwork. Because we're afraid of a little paperwork.
494 00:22:23,878 00:22:26,146 - On second thought... - On second thought...
495 00:22:26,214 00:22:27,514 All these are woll's cases? All these are woll's cases?
496 00:22:27,582 00:22:30,150 - A sampling. - Okay, it's a nightmare. - A sampling. - Okay, it's a nightmare.
497 00:22:30,218 00:22:32,786 Was he dirty when he worked for us? Was he dirty when he worked for us?
498 00:22:32,854 00:22:34,021 - That's hard to say. - That's hard to say.
499 00:22:34,089 00:22:35,556 There's more than one defense witness There's more than one defense witness
500 00:22:35,623 00:22:36,724 Who didn't show up for trial. Who didn't show up for trial.
501 00:22:36,791 00:22:38,359 - Defense witnesses-- - Defense witnesses--
502 00:22:38,426 00:22:40,961 The killer's mother, his drug addict girlfriend-- The killer's mother, his drug addict girlfriend--
503 00:22:41,029 00:22:43,230 They tend not to have perfect attendance records. They tend not to have perfect attendance records.
504 00:22:43,298 00:22:44,999 - There was this case I worked with woll, - There was this case I worked with woll,
505 00:22:45,066 00:22:46,667 Like my first month on the job. Like my first month on the job.
506 00:22:46,735 00:22:48,702 He convicted alvin jackson of murder. He convicted alvin jackson of murder.
507 00:22:48,770 00:22:51,205 - Alvin "mad dog" jackson, the drug lord. - Alvin "mad dog" jackson, the drug lord.
508 00:22:51,272 00:22:53,140 - That case made woll's reputation. - That case made woll's reputation.
509 00:22:53,208 00:22:54,708 - The defense had an eyewitness-- - The defense had an eyewitness--
510 00:22:54,776 00:22:56,543 A pharmacist named henry lovett, A pharmacist named henry lovett,
511 00:22:56,611 00:22:58,645 Who swore someone else committed the murder. Who swore someone else committed the murder.
512 00:22:58,713 00:23:01,281 Well, lovett never showed up for trial. Well, lovett never showed up for trial.
513 00:23:01,349 00:23:03,183 - I wonder why. - I wonder why.
514 00:23:03,251 00:23:05,886 - Lovett... - Lovett...
515 00:23:05,954 00:23:08,322 Oh. - What? Oh. - What?
516 00:23:08,390 00:23:10,224 - Two years after the trial, - Two years after the trial,
517 00:23:10,291 00:23:15,029 A decomposed body turned up in a construction site. A decomposed body turned up in a construction site.
518 00:23:15,096 00:23:17,164 - henry lovett. - henry lovett.
519 00:23:17,232 00:23:20,401 - Two years after the trial... No one made the connection. - Two years after the trial... No one made the connection.
520 00:23:20,468 00:23:24,838 - It might not be too late. Call the police. - It might not be too late. Call the police.
521 00:23:26,274 00:23:28,409 - It was one of eddie rice's boys who did it. - It was one of eddie rice's boys who did it.
522 00:23:28,476 00:23:30,277 That pharmacist saw. He would have cleared me. That pharmacist saw. He would have cleared me.
523 00:23:30,345 00:23:31,612 - Eddie rice? - Eddie rice?
524 00:23:31,679 00:23:33,714 - Yeah, eddie rice. He wanted in on my territory. - Yeah, eddie rice. He wanted in on my territory.
525 00:23:33,782 00:23:35,783 But see, the police didn't want to hear that. But see, the police didn't want to hear that.
526 00:23:35,850 00:23:38,318 And that guy who prosecuted me, woll-- And that guy who prosecuted me, woll--
527 00:23:38,386 00:23:40,254 He definitely didn't want to hear. He definitely didn't want to hear.
528 00:23:40,321 00:23:41,822 - Did you know the pharmacist was dead? - Did you know the pharmacist was dead?
529 00:23:41,890 00:23:43,157 - Of course he's dead. - Of course he's dead.
530 00:23:43,224 00:23:45,292 Where you think he's been for the last five years, Where you think he's been for the last five years,
531 00:23:45,360 00:23:47,394 On vacation in France? - Mm. On vacation in France? - Mm.
532 00:23:47,462 00:23:52,800 So eddie rice got him killed to protect himself So eddie rice got him killed to protect himself
533 00:23:52,867 00:23:54,902 And have you sent away... And have you sent away...
534 00:23:54,969 00:23:56,737 - Well, now you're detecting. - Well, now you're detecting.
535 00:23:56,805 00:23:59,139 It's too little too late. It's too little too late.
536 00:23:59,207 00:24:01,341 Well, eddie's dead too. Well, eddie's dead too.
537 00:24:03,578 00:24:06,780 - My husband was such a good citizen. - My husband was such a good citizen.
538 00:24:06,848 00:24:09,516 He had to tell the truth. He had to tell the truth.
539 00:24:09,584 00:24:10,951 Do you really think you're going to Do you really think you're going to
540 00:24:11,019 00:24:13,153 Figure this out after five years? Figure this out after five years?
541 00:24:13,221 00:24:16,356 - I really think we're going to try. - I really think we're going to try.
542 00:24:16,424 00:24:18,459 When was the last time you saw your husband? When was the last time you saw your husband?
543 00:24:18,526 00:24:22,529 - He was supposed to testify on a Monday morning. - He was supposed to testify on a Monday morning.
544 00:24:22,597 00:24:24,998 And on that Friday, And on that Friday,
545 00:24:25,066 00:24:26,733 He saw some suspicious characters He saw some suspicious characters
546 00:24:26,801 00:24:28,469 Hanging around the front of our building. Hanging around the front of our building.
547 00:24:28,536 00:24:30,270 So my husband decided to spend the weekend So my husband decided to spend the weekend
548 00:24:30,338 00:24:31,638 With some cousins in queens. With some cousins in queens.
549 00:24:31,706 00:24:34,141 Just to be safe. Just to be safe.
550 00:24:34,209 00:24:37,811 He took a walk Sunday night. He took a walk Sunday night.
551 00:24:37,879 00:24:39,146 He never came back. He never came back.
552 00:24:39,214 00:24:40,981 - And the fact that he was in queens, - And the fact that he was in queens,
553 00:24:41,049 00:24:42,349 He kept that a secret? He kept that a secret?
554 00:24:42,417 00:24:43,984 - I mean, that was the point. - I mean, that was the point.
555 00:24:44,052 00:24:47,554 I didn't tell anybody where he was. I didn't tell anybody where he was.
556 00:24:47,622 00:24:49,857 Except someone from the district attorney's office. Except someone from the district attorney's office.
557 00:24:49,924 00:24:51,191 They called and said they wanted They called and said they wanted
558 00:24:51,259 00:24:53,127 To arrange protection for him. To arrange protection for him.
559 00:24:53,194 00:24:54,995 I thought that would be all right. I thought that would be all right.
560 00:24:55,063 00:24:58,365 - Someone from the district attorney's office? - Someone from the district attorney's office?
561 00:24:58,433 00:25:00,734 Do you remember who that was? Do you remember who that was?
562 00:25:00,802 00:25:03,270 - I wrote down the name. - I wrote down the name.
563 00:25:03,338 00:25:05,606 - This witness, lovett, was going to wreck woll's big case. - This witness, lovett, was going to wreck woll's big case.
564 00:25:05,673 00:25:07,040 - Yeah, but somebody called the wife - Yeah, but somebody called the wife
565 00:25:07,108 00:25:08,575 And found out where lovett was hiding. And found out where lovett was hiding.
566 00:25:08,643 00:25:11,411 - And got word to eddie rice, who had the witness killed. - And got word to eddie rice, who had the witness killed.
567 00:25:11,479 00:25:12,579 It's the same m.O. It's the same m.O.
568 00:25:12,647 00:25:14,781 Woll's done it over and over again. Woll's done it over and over again.
569 00:25:14,849 00:25:17,417 - Except woll wasn't the one that called the wife. - Except woll wasn't the one that called the wife.
570 00:25:17,485 00:25:19,686 - Then who? - Then who?
571 00:25:25,727 00:25:29,096 Your partner. Your partner.
572 00:25:31,466 00:25:34,268 - Thanks. - Thanks.
573 00:25:42,645 00:25:45,415 - I was helping five lawyers with ten cases. - I was helping five lawyers with ten cases.
574 00:25:45,415 00:25:47,030 It was my first month on the job. It was my first month on the job.
575 00:25:47,030 00:25:48,792 I made a hundred phone calls. I made a hundred phone calls.
576 00:25:49,189 00:25:50,181 - So you didn't remember. - So you didn't remember.
577 00:25:50,249 00:25:53,952 - I didn't. But now I do. - I didn't. But now I do.
578 00:25:54,019 00:25:57,088 Woll asked me to find out where the witness was. Woll asked me to find out where the witness was.
579 00:25:57,156 00:26:00,024 He said he wanted to talk to him before he testified. He said he wanted to talk to him before he testified.
580 00:26:00,092 00:26:01,593 - Not to offer protection? - Not to offer protection?
581 00:26:01,660 00:26:03,328 That's what the widow said. That's what the widow said.
582 00:26:03,395 00:26:05,730 Woll told me to say that. Woll told me to say that.
583 00:26:05,798 00:26:06,798 He said that she'd be He said that she'd be
584 00:26:06,866 00:26:11,603 More likely to tell me where he was. More likely to tell me where he was.
585 00:26:11,670 00:26:13,104 I got that man killed, didn't I? I got that man killed, didn't I?
586 00:26:13,172 00:26:15,340 - No. Marcus woll did that. - No. Marcus woll did that.
587 00:26:15,407 00:26:17,041 What do we have on him? What do we have on him?
588 00:26:17,109 00:26:19,811 - An accomplice. Rainey. - An accomplice. Rainey.
589 00:26:19,879 00:26:22,180 Maybe he'll roll. Maybe he'll roll.
590 00:26:26,552 00:26:28,920 - My lawyer's not here yet. I don't talk without him. - My lawyer's not here yet. I don't talk without him.
591 00:26:28,988 00:26:31,656 - He wasn't invited. - He wasn't invited.
592 00:26:31,724 00:26:33,158 - Don't you guys know the rules? - Don't you guys know the rules?
593 00:26:33,225 00:26:35,226 - You don't have to say anything. - You don't have to say anything.
594 00:26:35,294 00:26:36,728 Just nod. Just nod.
595 00:26:36,795 00:26:39,831 - You killed maggie hayes and you tried to kill paige regan. - You killed maggie hayes and you tried to kill paige regan.
596 00:26:39,899 00:26:42,500 - I ain't nodding to that. - I ain't nodding to that.
597 00:26:42,568 00:26:45,837 - You were aided and abetted by your attorney, mr. Woll. - You were aided and abetted by your attorney, mr. Woll.
598 00:26:45,905 00:26:48,973 Now tell us about it and there's a deal on the table. Now tell us about it and there's a deal on the table.
599 00:26:49,041 00:26:51,176 - You want me to roll on marcus? - You want me to roll on marcus?
600 00:26:51,243 00:26:53,044 Why would I do that? Why would I do that?
601 00:26:53,112 00:26:55,046 Maggie's dead and paige is gone. Maggie's dead and paige is gone.
602 00:26:55,114 00:26:57,482 And I got a real good lawyer. And I got a real good lawyer.
603 00:26:57,550 00:27:01,252 If you'll excuse me, it's time for my massage. If you'll excuse me, it's time for my massage.
604 00:27:07,259 00:27:09,127 - Thank you, mr. Rainey. - Thank you, mr. Rainey.
605 00:27:09,195 00:27:13,531 - Okay, woll kills or tries to kill three witnesses. - Okay, woll kills or tries to kill three witnesses.
606 00:27:13,599 00:27:16,067 The pattern is consistent, but there's no evidence The pattern is consistent, but there's no evidence
607 00:27:16,135 00:27:17,502 Because he murders the evidence. Because he murders the evidence.
608 00:27:17,570 00:27:19,571 - What if the pattern is the evidence? - What if the pattern is the evidence?
609 00:27:19,638 00:27:21,439 - Legally, it isn't. - Usually not. - Legally, it isn't. - Usually not.
610 00:27:21,507 00:27:23,942 But if we get multiple murders in front of a jury, But if we get multiple murders in front of a jury,
611 00:27:24,009 00:27:26,277 They won't split legal hairs, they'll convict. They won't split legal hairs, they'll convict.
612 00:27:26,345 00:27:29,080 - Which is why no decent judge would let it go to a jury. - Which is why no decent judge would let it go to a jury.
613 00:27:29,148 00:27:30,481 - No decent judge? - No decent judge?
614 00:27:30,549 00:27:32,116 So it's 50-50. So it's 50-50.
615 00:27:33,919 00:27:36,154 - Thank you for joining us. - Thank you for joining us.
616 00:27:36,222 00:27:38,523 You have about ten seconds left to respond You have about ten seconds left to respond
617 00:27:38,591 00:27:42,527 To mr. Woll's motion to dismiss the charge against his client. To mr. Woll's motion to dismiss the charge against his client.
618 00:27:42,595 00:27:44,596 Do you have any proffer of evidence? Do you have any proffer of evidence?
619 00:27:44,663 00:27:46,664 - Not at the moment, your honor. - Not at the moment, your honor.
620 00:27:46,732 00:27:48,666 - Well, then you leave me no choice but to order-- - Well, then you leave me no choice but to order--
621 00:27:48,734 00:27:50,068 - Marcus woll, you're under arrest - Marcus woll, you're under arrest
622 00:27:50,135 00:27:52,403 For the murders of margaret hayes and henry lovett, For the murders of margaret hayes and henry lovett,
623 00:27:52,471 00:27:54,606 And the attempted murder of paige regan. And the attempted murder of paige regan.
624 00:27:54,673 00:27:56,341 - Hang on, you've got to be kidding me, right? - Hang on, you've got to be kidding me, right?
625 00:27:56,408 00:27:57,642 - Nope. - Nope.
626 00:27:57,710 00:27:59,110 - You were about to rule, your honor? - You were about to rule, your honor?
627 00:27:59,178 00:28:00,712 - I don't think this is the time. - I don't think this is the time.
628 00:28:00,779 00:28:02,914 - My troubles shouldn't be taken out on my client. - My troubles shouldn't be taken out on my client.
629 00:28:02,982 00:28:04,582 Now, if you were going to dismiss-- Now, if you were going to dismiss--
630 00:28:04,650 00:28:06,184 - Fair enough. Hold it there, please. - Fair enough. Hold it there, please.
631 00:28:06,252 00:28:08,886 The murder charge against mr. Rainey The murder charge against mr. Rainey
632 00:28:08,954 00:28:10,521 Is dismissed without prejudice. Is dismissed without prejudice.
633 00:28:10,589 00:28:12,857 You can bring it again if you develop new evidence. You can bring it again if you develop new evidence.
634 00:28:12,925 00:28:14,892 - thank you, your honor. - thank you, your honor.
635 00:28:14,960 00:28:17,028 I'll have a motion on my own behalf later today. I'll have a motion on my own behalf later today.
636 00:28:17,096 00:28:18,529 - Yeah. Let's go. - Yeah. Let's go.
637 00:28:21,867 00:28:24,135 - The three crimes charged span five years? - The three crimes charged span five years?
638 00:28:24,203 00:28:25,870 - Mr. Woll is the common thread. - Mr. Woll is the common thread.
639 00:28:25,938 00:28:28,806 - Are you alleging that he conspired with mr. Rainey? - Are you alleging that he conspired with mr. Rainey?
640 00:28:28,874 00:28:30,675 - Only on the two more recent crimes. - Only on the two more recent crimes.
641 00:28:30,743 00:28:32,744 - You just dismissed against rainey. - You just dismissed against rainey.
642 00:28:32,811 00:28:34,279 How can my client have conspired How can my client have conspired
643 00:28:34,346 00:28:36,080 With someone who didn't do anything? With someone who didn't do anything?
644 00:28:36,148 00:28:38,549 - There's a pattern to these crimes, a signature. - There's a pattern to these crimes, a signature.
645 00:28:38,617 00:28:40,818 - This alleged pattern's all they have, - This alleged pattern's all they have,
646 00:28:40,886 00:28:42,854 One charge bootstrapping another. One charge bootstrapping another.
647 00:28:42,921 00:28:44,022 There's no evidence. There's no evidence.
648 00:28:44,089 00:28:45,857 - The arraignment judge apparently agreed. - The arraignment judge apparently agreed.
649 00:28:45,924 00:28:48,059 Your bail came quick and easy. Your bail came quick and easy.
650 00:28:48,127 00:28:52,630 Mr. Cutter, this concatenation does seem a stretch. Mr. Cutter, this concatenation does seem a stretch.
651 00:28:52,698 00:28:54,732 The indictment is a bit cobbled together. The indictment is a bit cobbled together.
652 00:28:54,800 00:28:56,467 - We'll amend it, then. - We'll amend it, then.
653 00:28:56,535 00:28:59,070 To a single charge of conspiracy to murder henry lovett. To a single charge of conspiracy to murder henry lovett.
654 00:28:59,138 00:29:00,905 - Conspiracy with whom? - Conspiracy with whom?
655 00:29:00,973 00:29:02,140 Some deceased drug dealer? Some deceased drug dealer?
656 00:29:02,207 00:29:03,741 A person can't conspire with himself. A person can't conspire with himself.
657 00:29:03,809 00:29:05,310 - There is a co-conspirator who's alive - There is a co-conspirator who's alive
658 00:29:05,377 00:29:07,145 And willing to cooperate with the prosecution. And willing to cooperate with the prosecution.
659 00:29:07,212 00:29:09,280 - Oh, who? - Oh, who?
660 00:29:09,348 00:29:11,416 - Me. - Me.
661 00:29:11,483 00:29:15,019 - You're naming yourself as a co-conspirator? - You're naming yourself as a co-conspirator?
662 00:29:15,087 00:29:16,888 - I am. I was one. - I am. I was one.
663 00:29:16,955 00:29:18,523 - Then this hearing is adjourned pending - Then this hearing is adjourned pending
664 00:29:18,590 00:29:20,058 A superseding indictment. A superseding indictment.
665 00:29:20,125 00:29:22,427 Mr. Woll, your bail is continued. Mr. Woll, your bail is continued.
666 00:29:22,494 00:29:25,163 Ms. Rubirosa, I suggest you retain counsel. Ms. Rubirosa, I suggest you retain counsel.
667 00:29:29,768 00:29:32,370 - Connie, connie, you don't want to do this. - Connie, connie, you don't want to do this.
668 00:29:32,438 00:29:33,538 - You saw what was happening. - You saw what was happening.
669 00:29:33,605 00:29:35,039 That son of a bitch was about to skate. That son of a bitch was about to skate.
670 00:29:35,107 00:29:36,741 - So we'll find another way. - So we'll find another way.
671 00:29:36,809 00:29:38,776 - We don't need another way. We have a way. - We don't need another way. We have a way.
672 00:29:42,981 00:29:43,981 - You too, mike? - You too, mike?
673 00:29:44,049 00:29:45,683 - Me too what? - Me too what?
674 00:29:45,751 00:29:47,885 - Oh, come on. She's still hot as hell. - Oh, come on. She's still hot as hell.
675 00:29:47,953 00:29:49,287 - What are you talking about? - What are you talking about?
676 00:29:51,457 00:29:54,025 - Just do it. - Just do it.
677 00:29:54,093 00:29:56,961 I did. I did.
678 00:30:05,270 00:30:08,473 - Woll claims that he and connie had a... - Woll claims that he and connie had a...
679 00:30:08,540 00:30:10,608 Sexual relationship. Sexual relationship.
680 00:30:10,676 00:30:13,511 He did everything but show me the dirty pictures. He did everything but show me the dirty pictures.
681 00:30:13,579 00:30:17,215 - Did you ask her? - No. - Did you ask her? - No.
682 00:30:17,282 00:30:19,083 Even that would be crossing the line. Even that would be crossing the line.
683 00:30:19,151 00:30:21,119 I don't have sex with people I work with, I don't have sex with people I work with,
684 00:30:21,186 00:30:23,554 And I don't ask them about their sex lives. And I don't ask them about their sex lives.
685 00:30:23,622 00:30:26,257 We're supposed to be smarter than that here, aren't we? We're supposed to be smarter than that here, aren't we?
686 00:30:26,325 00:30:29,127 I mean, who'd put themselves in a situation like that? I mean, who'd put themselves in a situation like that?
687 00:30:29,194 00:30:30,561 - You mean, besides me? - You mean, besides me?
688 00:30:30,629 00:30:31,796 - It's worse for a woman, jack. - It's worse for a woman, jack.
689 00:30:31,864 00:30:34,465 Sleeping with the teacher, sleeping with the boss. Sleeping with the teacher, sleeping with the boss.
690 00:30:34,533 00:30:36,834 It demeans them. It demeans them.
691 00:30:36,902 00:30:39,470 Calls into question everything they accomplish. Calls into question everything they accomplish.
692 00:30:39,538 00:30:41,239 - So she deserves extra credit - So she deserves extra credit
693 00:30:41,306 00:30:44,275 For stepping forward, doesn't she? For stepping forward, doesn't she?
694 00:30:44,343 00:30:46,310 I assume you still find her competent. I assume you still find her competent.
695 00:30:46,378 00:30:48,613 - Of course I do. - Of course I do.
696 00:30:50,482 00:30:52,884 But we're colleagues, we're not...Lovers. But we're colleagues, we're not...Lovers.
697 00:30:57,523 00:31:00,625 That's the way it's supposed to be. That's the way it's supposed to be.
698 00:31:04,196 00:31:06,097 - Yeah, you could say that me and eddie rice - Yeah, you could say that me and eddie rice
699 00:31:06,165 00:31:07,432 Were having problems. Were having problems.
700 00:31:07,499 00:31:10,201 - Did those problems involve the illegal distribution - Did those problems involve the illegal distribution
701 00:31:10,269 00:31:12,270 Of marijuana and cocaine? Of marijuana and cocaine?
702 00:31:12,337 00:31:14,338 - Yeah. That was my business. - Yeah. That was my business.
703 00:31:14,406 00:31:15,940 And eddie tried to take part of it. And eddie tried to take part of it.
704 00:31:16,008 00:31:18,676 And to prove his point, he killed my second in command. And to prove his point, he killed my second in command.
705 00:31:18,744 00:31:20,545 - And what happened then? - And what happened then?
706 00:31:20,612 00:31:21,913 - I'd been in the papers. - I'd been in the papers.
707 00:31:21,980 00:31:24,382 "uptown drug kingpin," stuff like that. "uptown drug kingpin," stuff like that.
708 00:31:24,450 00:31:27,452 Mr. Woll there, he came after me. Mr. Woll there, he came after me.
709 00:31:27,519 00:31:29,420 - He prosecuted you for the murder - He prosecuted you for the murder
710 00:31:29,488 00:31:30,655 Of your own lieutenant? Of your own lieutenant?
711 00:31:30,722 00:31:32,089 - Oh, he got me too. - Oh, he got me too.
712 00:31:32,157 00:31:34,158 Made a pretty nice little headline. Made a pretty nice little headline.
713 00:31:34,226 00:31:36,127 - Well, did you try to convince mr. Woll - Well, did you try to convince mr. Woll
714 00:31:36,195 00:31:38,229 That he was prosecuting the wrong person? That he was prosecuting the wrong person?
715 00:31:38,297 00:31:39,630 - Oh, yeah. - Oh, yeah.
716 00:31:39,698 00:31:41,899 We even found him a witness who saw it wasn't me. We even found him a witness who saw it wasn't me.
717 00:31:41,967 00:31:45,269 And he was going to testify. Until he got killed. And he was going to testify. Until he got killed.
718 00:31:45,337 00:31:47,271 - Thank you. - Thank you.
719 00:31:50,075 00:31:53,010 - Mr. Jackson, you are currently serving a prison sentence - Mr. Jackson, you are currently serving a prison sentence
720 00:31:53,078 00:31:56,547 Of 25 years to life because you were tried and convicted Of 25 years to life because you were tried and convicted
721 00:31:56,615 00:31:58,749 Of murder, is that correct? Of murder, is that correct?
722 00:31:58,817 00:32:00,418 - That's correct. - That's correct.
723 00:32:00,486 00:32:02,253 - I think that's all we need to know. - I think that's all we need to know.
724 00:32:05,357 00:32:07,391 - The other side's gonna bring up - The other side's gonna bring up
725 00:32:07,459 00:32:09,594 Your relationship with woll. Your relationship with woll.
726 00:32:09,661 00:32:11,062 - I know. - I know.
727 00:32:11,129 00:32:14,966 - And I'm wide open to ideas on how to handle that one. - And I'm wide open to ideas on how to handle that one.
728 00:32:15,033 00:32:18,302 - Jump into a time machine and make it never happen? - Jump into a time machine and make it never happen?
729 00:32:21,907 00:32:24,075 - I never would have thought. - I never would have thought.
730 00:32:24,142 00:32:25,610 - What? - What?
731 00:32:25,677 00:32:27,845 - You and woll. - You and woll.
732 00:32:27,913 00:32:29,380 - It's life, mike. Things happen. - It's life, mike. Things happen.
733 00:32:29,448 00:32:32,083 - It was dumb. You're not dumb. - It was dumb. You're not dumb.
734 00:32:32,150 00:32:36,053 - Thank you. - Thank you.
735 00:32:36,121 00:32:38,556 You know, maybe somebody else should be handling this trial. You know, maybe somebody else should be handling this trial.
736 00:32:42,761 00:32:44,629 - I'm afraid you're stuck with me. - I'm afraid you're stuck with me.
737 00:32:46,698 00:32:49,033 - Then we should probably get back to work. - Then we should probably get back to work.
738 00:32:49,101 00:32:52,803 - Okay. - Okay.
739 00:32:52,871 00:32:56,040 So how to deal with your relationship So how to deal with your relationship
740 00:32:56,108 00:32:58,509 With the defendant.... With the defendant....
741 00:32:58,577 00:33:00,878 - Tell the truth. Keep it brief. - Tell the truth. Keep it brief.
742 00:33:00,946 00:33:02,780 And move the focus back to the crime. And move the focus back to the crime.
743 00:33:02,848 00:33:04,815 Isn't that what you taught me to do Isn't that what you taught me to do
744 00:33:04,883 00:33:09,453 When we have a damaged witness? When we have a damaged witness?
745 00:33:09,521 00:33:12,957 - Yeah. - Yeah.
746 00:33:15,594 00:33:17,328 - Give you a lift? - Give you a lift?
747 00:33:17,396 00:33:19,196 I think we're going to the same place. I think we're going to the same place.
748 00:33:19,264 00:33:21,065 - No. Thanks. - No. Thanks.
749 00:33:21,133 00:33:23,868 - We're co-conspirators, connie. - We're co-conspirators, connie.
750 00:33:23,936 00:33:25,937 It seems only natural we should spend time together. It seems only natural we should spend time together.
751 00:33:26,004 00:33:28,606 - Oh, on the day that I'm going to testify against you? - Oh, on the day that I'm going to testify against you?
752 00:33:28,674 00:33:31,008 Are you planning to have me shot like the others? Are you planning to have me shot like the others?
753 00:33:33,211 00:33:34,912 - You don't have to go through with this. - You don't have to go through with this.
754 00:33:34,980 00:33:37,048 It isn't going to do you any good. It isn't going to do you any good.
755 00:33:37,115 00:33:38,549 - Marcus, you have no idea - Marcus, you have no idea
756 00:33:38,617 00:33:40,484 How much good this is going to do me. How much good this is going to do me.
757 00:33:42,287 00:33:43,688 - It's tragic, connie. - It's tragic, connie.
758 00:33:43,755 00:33:46,257 You know this whole thing is breaking someone's heart? You know this whole thing is breaking someone's heart?
759 00:33:46,325 00:33:48,759 - Yours? I don't think so. - Yours? I don't think so.
760 00:33:48,827 00:33:51,662 - Not mine. Poor mike cutter. - Not mine. Poor mike cutter.
761 00:33:53,565 00:33:56,067 He never realized you were available. He never realized you were available.
762 00:34:01,840 00:34:05,142 - Mr. Lovett was scheduled to testify on Monday morning. - Mr. Lovett was scheduled to testify on Monday morning.
763 00:34:05,210 00:34:09,213 On Friday, mr. Woll asked me to call mr. Lovett's wife On Friday, mr. Woll asked me to call mr. Lovett's wife
764 00:34:09,281 00:34:11,082 And find out where he was hiding. And find out where he was hiding.
765 00:34:11,149 00:34:13,351 He told me he wanted to arrange an interview. He told me he wanted to arrange an interview.
766 00:34:13,418 00:34:15,987 - Is that what you told mrs. Lovett? - Is that what you told mrs. Lovett?
767 00:34:16,054 00:34:17,388 - No. - No.
768 00:34:17,456 00:34:19,724 At mr. Woll's suggestion, At mr. Woll's suggestion,
769 00:34:19,791 00:34:22,760 I told her we wanted to arrange protection for her husband. I told her we wanted to arrange protection for her husband.
770 00:34:22,828 00:34:24,562 She told me where he was hiding, She told me where he was hiding,
771 00:34:24,630 00:34:27,398 And I passed that information on to mr. Woll. And I passed that information on to mr. Woll.
772 00:34:27,466 00:34:29,700 - And how did you spend the time - And how did you spend the time
773 00:34:29,768 00:34:33,004 Between Friday afternoon and Monday morning? Between Friday afternoon and Monday morning?
774 00:34:33,071 00:34:35,206 - Working on the case with mr. Woll. - Working on the case with mr. Woll.
775 00:34:35,273 00:34:37,975 These are my notes from that weekend. These are my notes from that weekend.
776 00:34:38,043 00:34:40,745 - Do they show any effort by mr. Woll - Do they show any effort by mr. Woll
777 00:34:40,812 00:34:43,848 To arrange an interview with mr. Lovett? To arrange an interview with mr. Lovett?
778 00:34:43,915 00:34:45,850 - No. - No.
779 00:34:45,917 00:34:48,085 - So he asked you to find mr. Lovett - So he asked you to find mr. Lovett
780 00:34:48,153 00:34:50,988 So he could talk to him, but after you found him So he could talk to him, but after you found him
781 00:34:51,056 00:34:52,690 He never tried to talk to him? He never tried to talk to him?
782 00:34:52,758 00:34:54,492 - No. He didn't. - No. He didn't.
783 00:34:54,559 00:34:56,961 - Didn't that strike you as odd at the time? - Didn't that strike you as odd at the time?
784 00:34:57,029 00:34:59,697 Especially after he told you to lie? Especially after he told you to lie?
785 00:34:59,765 00:35:03,034 - It should have, but there was a lot going on... - It should have, but there was a lot going on...
786 00:35:03,101 00:35:05,503 And when mr. Lovett didn't show up anyway, And when mr. Lovett didn't show up anyway,
787 00:35:05,570 00:35:07,204 It all seemed moot. It all seemed moot.
788 00:35:07,272 00:35:10,975 - He didn't show up because he was dead. - He didn't show up because he was dead.
789 00:35:11,043 00:35:14,345 - I didn't know that then, but yes. - I didn't know that then, but yes.
790 00:35:14,413 00:35:18,549 - What else did mr. Woll ask you to do that weekend? - What else did mr. Woll ask you to do that weekend?
791 00:35:18,617 00:35:21,118 - To work on a draft of his closing statement. - To work on a draft of his closing statement.
792 00:35:21,186 00:35:22,720 He wanted it ready for Monday morning. He wanted it ready for Monday morning.
793 00:35:22,788 00:35:24,088 - Monday morning? - Monday morning?
794 00:35:24,156 00:35:27,258 Wasn't that when mr. Lovett was supposed to testify? Wasn't that when mr. Lovett was supposed to testify?
795 00:35:27,325 00:35:28,726 - Yes. - Yes.
796 00:35:28,794 00:35:31,629 - So mr. Woll almost seemed to know - So mr. Woll almost seemed to know
797 00:35:31,697 00:35:33,397 That mr. Lovett wasn't going to be there. That mr. Lovett wasn't going to be there.
798 00:35:33,465 00:35:35,066 - Objection. Leading the witness. - Objection. Leading the witness.
799 00:35:35,133 00:35:36,600 - Sustained. - Sustained.
800 00:35:36,668 00:35:38,903 - No further questions. - No further questions.
801 00:35:43,175 00:35:47,278 - Ms. Rubirosa, you're a district attorney, - Ms. Rubirosa, you're a district attorney,
802 00:35:47,345 00:35:49,914 But you have come forward to identify yourself But you have come forward to identify yourself
803 00:35:49,981 00:35:53,317 As a co-conspirator in the murder of henry lovett. As a co-conspirator in the murder of henry lovett.
804 00:35:53,385 00:35:55,453 - An unindicted co-conspirator. - An unindicted co-conspirator.
805 00:35:55,520 00:35:57,488 - So you have not been charged with a crime, - So you have not been charged with a crime,
806 00:35:57,556 00:36:00,391 But you make it possible to accuse mr. Woll. But you make it possible to accuse mr. Woll.
807 00:36:00,459 00:36:03,127 He couldn't be charged with conspiracy He couldn't be charged with conspiracy
808 00:36:03,195 00:36:05,463 Unless there was someone he conspired with. Unless there was someone he conspired with.
809 00:36:05,530 00:36:06,831 - That's right. - That's right.
810 00:36:06,898 00:36:08,599 - Even for a hard-core prosecutor, - Even for a hard-core prosecutor,
811 00:36:08,667 00:36:11,736 That's going the extra mile, isn't it? That's going the extra mile, isn't it?
812 00:36:11,803 00:36:13,938 You really want to get mr. Woll, don't you? You really want to get mr. Woll, don't you?
813 00:36:14,005 00:36:16,807 - No more than I want to get any other murderer. - No more than I want to get any other murderer.
814 00:36:16,875 00:36:18,109 - Really? - Really?
815 00:36:18,176 00:36:20,945 How many other accused murderers have you slept with? How many other accused murderers have you slept with?
816 00:36:21,012 00:36:22,446 - Objection. Relevance. - Objection. Relevance.
817 00:36:22,514 00:36:24,115 - Withdrawn. - Withdrawn.
818 00:36:24,182 00:36:30,488 Ms. Rubirosa, on that busy long-ago weekend Ms. Rubirosa, on that busy long-ago weekend
819 00:36:30,555 00:36:32,690 When you were tracking down witnesses When you were tracking down witnesses
820 00:36:32,758 00:36:35,059 And drafting summations, And drafting summations,
821 00:36:35,127 00:36:37,528 Did you also have sex with mr. Woll? Did you also have sex with mr. Woll?
822 00:36:37,596 00:36:39,029 It might not be in your notes there. It might not be in your notes there.
823 00:36:41,166 00:36:42,199 - No. - No.
824 00:36:42,267 00:36:45,002 - Have you ever had sex with mr. Woll? - Have you ever had sex with mr. Woll?
825 00:36:45,070 00:36:48,272 - Once or twice. But it was a mistake. - Once or twice. But it was a mistake.
826 00:36:48,340 00:36:51,075 - A mistake. Are you making up for it now? - A mistake. Are you making up for it now?
827 00:36:51,143 00:36:52,610 - There's nothing to make up. - There's nothing to make up.
828 00:36:52,677 00:36:55,146 - Really? How did the affair end? - Really? How did the affair end?
829 00:36:55,213 00:36:57,114 - I came to my senses. - I came to my senses.
830 00:36:57,182 00:37:01,051 - You realized that you-- a young, eager, new prosecutor-- - You realized that you-- a young, eager, new prosecutor--
831 00:37:01,119 00:37:04,622 Had been taken advantage of by an older hand? Had been taken advantage of by an older hand?
832 00:37:04,689 00:37:06,323 - That wasn't it. - Really? - That wasn't it. - Really?
833 00:37:06,391 00:37:09,293 Isn't this whole trial a chance for you to get even? Isn't this whole trial a chance for you to get even?
834 00:37:09,361 00:37:11,462 - There's nothing to get even for. - There's nothing to get even for.
835 00:37:11,530 00:37:14,431 I'd practically forgotten about it. I'd practically forgotten about it.
836 00:37:14,499 00:37:17,334 It wasn't that memorable. It wasn't that memorable.
837 00:37:25,877 00:37:28,779 - She was busy. And distracted. - She was busy. And distracted.
838 00:37:28,847 00:37:32,783 I tried to contact mr. Lovett several times over that weekend. I tried to contact mr. Lovett several times over that weekend.
839 00:37:32,851 00:37:35,352 I didn't realize I should have made her I didn't realize I should have made her
840 00:37:35,420 00:37:36,654 Put it in her notes. Put it in her notes.
841 00:37:36,721 00:37:40,658 - Did you arrange to have mr. Lovett murdered? - Did you arrange to have mr. Lovett murdered?
842 00:37:40,725 00:37:42,493 - No, of course not. - No, of course not.
843 00:37:42,561 00:37:45,663 I didn't even know he was dead until this case arose. I didn't even know he was dead until this case arose.
844 00:37:47,465 00:37:49,800 I knew I wasn't ms. Rubirosa's favorite person, I knew I wasn't ms. Rubirosa's favorite person,
845 00:37:49,868 00:37:52,469 But I really never thought she'd go this far. But I really never thought she'd go this far.
846 00:37:52,537 00:37:53,771 - You think she's making it up? - You think she's making it up?
847 00:37:53,839 00:37:55,906 - No, I think she may actually believe it. - No, I think she may actually believe it.
848 00:37:55,974 00:37:58,409 That's what's really scary here. That's what's really scary here.
849 00:38:02,914 00:38:04,215 - Mr. Woll, - Mr. Woll,
850 00:38:04,282 00:38:08,052 I refer you to your office and home phone records I refer you to your office and home phone records
851 00:38:08,119 00:38:10,721 For the weekend preceding mr. Lovett's disappearance. For the weekend preceding mr. Lovett's disappearance.
852 00:38:10,789 00:38:13,290 Could you show us where it indicates Could you show us where it indicates
853 00:38:13,358 00:38:14,358 That you telephoned him? That you telephoned him?
854 00:38:14,426 00:38:15,726 - Yeah, it's not there. - Yeah, it's not there.
855 00:38:15,794 00:38:17,795 I may have wandered down the hallway for some privacy. I may have wandered down the hallway for some privacy.
856 00:38:17,863 00:38:19,964 There are about a hundred phones in the d.A.'s office. There are about a hundred phones in the d.A.'s office.
857 00:38:20,031 00:38:23,133 - But there are several calls here to the home of eddie rice. - But there are several calls here to the home of eddie rice.
858 00:38:23,201 00:38:25,636 Did you call to tell him where he could find Did you call to tell him where he could find
859 00:38:25,704 00:38:27,004 And kill mr. Lovett? And kill mr. Lovett?
860 00:38:27,072 00:38:29,006 - No. - No.
861 00:38:29,074 00:38:31,508 I don't exactly remember, I don't exactly remember,
862 00:38:31,576 00:38:33,277 But if I called him it was probably acting on But if I called him it was probably acting on
863 00:38:33,345 00:38:35,179 A suggestion of the defendant's to investigate A suggestion of the defendant's to investigate
864 00:38:35,247 00:38:36,380 Another theory of the crime. Another theory of the crime.
865 00:38:36,448 00:38:38,349 - The weekend before your summation? - The weekend before your summation?
866 00:38:38,416 00:38:40,684 Wasn't that letting it go pretty late? Wasn't that letting it go pretty late?
867 00:38:40,752 00:38:42,419 - We were still at trial. - We were still at trial.
868 00:38:42,487 00:38:44,421 - Right. - Right.
869 00:38:44,489 00:38:46,924 You and ms. Rubirosa, You and ms. Rubirosa,
870 00:38:46,992 00:38:49,126 Who you think is delusional. Who you think is delusional.
871 00:38:49,194 00:38:50,828 - I don't know. I'm not a psychiatrist. - I don't know. I'm not a psychiatrist.
872 00:38:50,896 00:38:52,796 - Well, if she was unstable even then, - Well, if she was unstable even then,
873 00:38:52,864 00:38:54,398 Maybe she called eddie rice Maybe she called eddie rice
874 00:38:54,466 00:38:56,233 And told him where to find henry lovett. And told him where to find henry lovett.
875 00:38:56,301 00:38:58,569 I mean, she knew where he was, right? I mean, she knew where he was, right?
876 00:38:58,637 00:39:00,404 - Why would she have done that? - Why would she have done that?
877 00:39:00,472 00:39:01,872 - Well, to help you. - Well, to help you.
878 00:39:01,940 00:39:05,843 To get you what you wanted-- a conviction. To get you what you wanted-- a conviction.
879 00:39:07,579 00:39:10,447 Maybe she was in love with you. Maybe she was in love with you.
880 00:39:15,020 00:39:16,587 - I think at one point she was. - I think at one point she was.
881 00:39:16,655 00:39:18,422 - Well, in that case, - Well, in that case,
882 00:39:18,490 00:39:21,225 Maybe the two of you were in it together. Maybe the two of you were in it together.
883 00:39:21,293 00:39:24,128 She wasn't an unwitting co-conspirator, She wasn't an unwitting co-conspirator,
884 00:39:24,195 00:39:25,462 But an equal partner. But an equal partner.
885 00:39:25,530 00:39:28,565 And she should be charged here right along with you. And she should be charged here right along with you.
886 00:39:28,633 00:39:29,900 - Nobody should be charged here, - Nobody should be charged here,
887 00:39:29,968 00:39:31,802 Because nobody murdered anybody. Because nobody murdered anybody.
888 00:39:31,870 00:39:33,938 - Well, somebody murdered henry lovett. - Well, somebody murdered henry lovett.
889 00:39:34,005 00:39:35,973 And no one knew where he was, And no one knew where he was,
890 00:39:36,041 00:39:38,575 Except you and ms. Rubirosa. Except you and ms. Rubirosa.
891 00:39:38,643 00:39:40,277 - Okay, have it your way. - Okay, have it your way.
892 00:39:40,345 00:39:41,478 She did it. She did it.
893 00:39:41,546 00:39:43,380 I don't murder witnesses. I don't murder witnesses.
894 00:39:44,683 00:39:46,150 - Is that a fact? - Is that a fact?
895 00:39:50,088 00:39:53,023 Did you ever hear of a woman named maggie hayes? Did you ever hear of a woman named maggie hayes?
896 00:39:53,091 00:39:55,693 Or one named paige regan? - Objection. Or one named paige regan? - Objection.
897 00:39:55,760 00:39:57,528 We are getting beyond the scope of this trial, We are getting beyond the scope of this trial,
898 00:39:57,595 00:39:59,029 And extremely prejudicial. And extremely prejudicial.
899 00:39:59,097 00:40:02,399 - Mr. Woll opened the door by claiming - Mr. Woll opened the door by claiming
900 00:40:02,467 00:40:05,169 That he doesn't murder witnesses. That he doesn't murder witnesses.
901 00:40:05,236 00:40:07,371 - Indeed he did. - Indeed he did.
902 00:40:07,439 00:40:09,406 Objection is overruled. Objection is overruled.
903 00:40:15,480 00:40:17,481 - Yes. I've heard of them. - Yes. I've heard of them.
904 00:40:17,549 00:40:21,218 - Isn't it true that maggie hayes and paige regan - Isn't it true that maggie hayes and paige regan
905 00:40:21,286 00:40:24,088 Were witnesses against your client bart rainey, Were witnesses against your client bart rainey,
906 00:40:24,155 00:40:26,156 And that one of them was murdered, And that one of them was murdered,
907 00:40:26,224 00:40:28,025 And an attempt was made to murder the other? And an attempt was made to murder the other?
908 00:40:28,093 00:40:30,627 - Your honor, there's about five different questions in there. - Your honor, there's about five different questions in there.
909 00:40:30,695 00:40:33,831 - Well, I'll make it very simple for you then, mr. Woll. - Well, I'll make it very simple for you then, mr. Woll.
910 00:40:33,898 00:40:36,967 Why is it that witnesses opposing your interests Why is it that witnesses opposing your interests
911 00:40:37,035 00:40:39,903 Have a consistent habit of getting killed? Have a consistent habit of getting killed?
912 00:40:39,971 00:40:41,672 - Your honor... - Withdrawn. - Your honor... - Withdrawn.
913 00:40:53,818 00:40:59,256 Now let's begin by talking about maggie hayes... Now let's begin by talking about maggie hayes...
914 00:41:04,462 00:41:07,231 - Cheesy, cutter. - Cheesy, cutter.
915 00:41:07,298 00:41:09,466 But you managed to get your pattern in after all. But you managed to get your pattern in after all.
916 00:41:09,534 00:41:12,169 - Jury went for it too, did you notice? - Jury went for it too, did you notice?
917 00:41:12,237 00:41:15,072 - Drop this case and we'll give you something real. - Drop this case and we'll give you something real.
918 00:41:15,140 00:41:17,775 - Well, I thought this case was real. - Well, I thought this case was real.
919 00:41:17,842 00:41:20,944 - By your own theory, I've never shot anybody. - By your own theory, I've never shot anybody.
920 00:41:21,012 00:41:22,679 I've never even carried a gun. I've never even carried a gun.
921 00:41:22,747 00:41:25,182 - But mr. Rainey has, and mr. Rainey did. - But mr. Rainey has, and mr. Rainey did.
922 00:41:25,250 00:41:27,651 - You'll give us rainey? - You'll give us rainey?
923 00:41:27,719 00:41:32,089 - Everything you need. Murder and attempted murder. - Everything you need. Murder and attempted murder.
924 00:41:32,157 00:41:35,225 - Mr. Woll gets a walk. But you get a stone cold killer. - Mr. Woll gets a walk. But you get a stone cold killer.
925 00:41:38,430 00:41:41,065 - You know what? - You know what?
926 00:41:41,132 00:41:46,103 I think I'd rather make the deal with the stone cold killer. I think I'd rather make the deal with the stone cold killer.
927 00:41:46,171 00:41:50,741 I'm sure mr. Rainey will find this very interesting listening. I'm sure mr. Rainey will find this very interesting listening.
928 00:41:55,647 00:42:00,117 We cut a deal with rainey for 12 to 14. We cut a deal with rainey for 12 to 14.
929 00:42:00,185 00:42:02,252 He gives us woll on a platter. He gives us woll on a platter.
930 00:42:02,320 00:42:03,620 - They'll be together in attica. - They'll be together in attica.
931 00:42:03,688 00:42:05,055 Charming. Charming.
932 00:42:05,123 00:42:07,257 - The appeals for the people woll convicted - The appeals for the people woll convicted
933 00:42:07,325 00:42:08,525 Are already coming in. Are already coming in.
934 00:42:08,593 00:42:10,627 We'll have another hundred by the weekend. We'll have another hundred by the weekend.
935 00:42:10,695 00:42:14,698 You two will have to work together day and night. You two will have to work together day and night.
936 00:42:14,766 00:42:17,219 That won't be a problem, will it? That won't be a problem, will it?
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