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1 00:00:05,568 00:00:07,002 In the criminal justice system, In the criminal justice system,
2 00:00:07,070 00:00:09,604 The people are represented by two separate The people are represented by two separate
3 00:00:09,672 00:00:11,105 Yet equally important groups-- Yet equally important groups--
4 00:00:11,173 00:00:13,140 The police who investigate crime The police who investigate crime
5 00:00:13,208 00:00:16,031 And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. And the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders.
6 00:00:16,099 00:00:17,940 These are their stories. These are their stories.
7 00:00:20,714 00:00:22,420 Punch buggy red. No punch back. Punch buggy red. No punch back.
8 00:00:22,487 00:00:24,552 - Mom. - Mom.
9 00:00:24,619 00:00:26,587 - You can't play that, auntie brenda. - You can't play that, auntie brenda.
10 00:00:26,655 00:00:27,889 - Why? - Why?
11 00:00:27,957 00:00:29,256 Because I'm a big, bad grown-up? Because I'm a big, bad grown-up?
12 00:00:29,324 00:00:30,525 All: Yes. All: Yes.
13 00:00:30,592 00:00:32,964 - I invented the punch buggy game. - I invented the punch buggy game.
14 00:00:33,032 00:00:35,440 - You did not. - Ask auntie sandy. - You did not. - Ask auntie sandy.
15 00:00:35,508 00:00:39,207 She used to bring a pillow in the car She used to bring a pillow in the car
16 00:00:39,274 00:00:41,409 To put between us so I couldn't hit her. To put between us so I couldn't hit her.
17 00:00:41,476 00:00:42,777 [car horn blares] [car horn blares]
18 00:00:42,845 00:00:44,280 - Mom, watch where you're going, okay? - Mom, watch where you're going, okay?
19 00:00:44,348 00:00:47,548 - Oh, I'm just having a little fun, nicky. - Oh, I'm just having a little fun, nicky.
20 00:00:47,615 00:00:48,949 Jeez. Jeez.
21 00:00:52,753 00:00:56,054 Give me my spray out of my purse, will you, honey? Give me my spray out of my purse, will you, honey?
22 00:00:56,121 00:00:57,355 - So where'd you take her? - So where'd you take her?
23 00:00:57,422 00:00:58,956 - Apple picking. - Apple picking.
24 00:00:59,024 00:01:01,058 - Oh, risky first date. - No, it was all good, bro. - Oh, risky first date. - No, it was all good, bro.
25 00:01:01,126 00:01:03,060 An we got some great "maccowns." An we got some great "maccowns."
26 00:01:03,127 00:01:05,261 - Macouns. - Macouns.
27 00:01:06,363 00:01:07,896 - Mommy! - Mommy!
28 00:01:17,138 00:01:19,374 - Minivan entered the highway off 14th street - Minivan entered the highway off 14th street
29 00:01:19,441 00:01:21,443 Going the wrong way. Going the wrong way.
30 00:01:21,510 00:01:23,812 Witnesses say it was going 60 minimum. Witnesses say it was going 60 minimum.
31 00:01:23,879 00:01:26,314 Hit this poor guy head on. Hit this poor guy head on.
32 00:01:26,382 00:01:28,083 All three in the car were d.O.A. All three in the car were d.O.A.
33 00:01:28,150 00:01:30,151 Two in the minivan. Two in the minivan.
34 00:01:30,218 00:01:31,452 Little kids. Little kids.
35 00:01:31,519 00:01:33,120 - What about the driver of the minivan? - What about the driver of the minivan?
36 00:01:33,187 00:01:34,554 - They rushed her and two other kids - They rushed her and two other kids
37 00:01:34,622 00:01:35,922 To st. Agnes'. To st. Agnes'.
38 00:01:35,989 00:01:37,823 - Drove almost 20 blocks on the wrong side. - Drove almost 20 blocks on the wrong side.
39 00:01:37,890 00:01:42,593 Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
40 00:01:42,661 00:01:43,827 - Hey. - Hey.
41 00:01:43,895 00:01:46,729 I think I found the culprit. I think I found the culprit.
42 00:01:46,797 00:01:50,266 Grain alcohol. Grain alcohol.
43 00:01:50,334 00:01:51,933 151 proof. 151 proof.
44 00:01:52,001 00:01:53,467 - No taste. Packs a wallop. - No taste. Packs a wallop.
45 00:01:53,534 00:01:55,602 - Yeah, there's still a few drops in the bottle. - Yeah, there's still a few drops in the bottle.
46 00:01:56,370 00:01:59,739 This is why I take the subway. This is why I take the subway.
47 00:02:50,446 00:02:52,579 - My wife was taking the kids to our place upstate - My wife was taking the kids to our place upstate
48 00:02:52,647 00:02:53,847 For the weekend. For the weekend.
49 00:02:53,915 00:02:55,249 She had our nieces with her. She had our nieces with her.
50 00:02:55,316 00:02:56,717 Oh, god. Oh, god.
51 00:02:56,784 00:02:58,485 Oh, what am I gonna tell sandy and bob? Oh, what am I gonna tell sandy and bob?
52 00:02:58,553 00:03:01,488 - We're very sorry, mr. Sawyer. - We're very sorry, mr. Sawyer.
53 00:03:01,555 00:03:02,922 - Where was she coming from? - Where was she coming from?
54 00:03:02,990 00:03:05,425 - Uh, she was coming from work, - Uh, she was coming from work,
55 00:03:05,492 00:03:06,726 From woodmoor pharma. From woodmoor pharma.
56 00:03:06,793 00:03:09,128 Brenda's a sales manager. Brenda's a sales manager.
57 00:03:09,195 00:03:11,396 She wasn't even supposed to have the kids with her. She wasn't even supposed to have the kids with her.
58 00:03:11,464 00:03:14,132 I was supposed to pick them up from her sister's place, I was supposed to pick them up from her sister's place,
59 00:03:14,200 00:03:16,768 But last minute I had to stay late at the bank. But last minute I had to stay late at the bank.
60 00:03:16,835 00:03:17,969 - So you called your wife. - So you called your wife.
61 00:03:18,036 00:03:19,603 - Yeah, around 4:45. - Yeah, around 4:45.
62 00:03:19,671 00:03:21,171 I told her she'd have to pick the kids up, I told her she'd have to pick the kids up,
63 00:03:21,239 00:03:22,639 And I'd come up later. And I'd come up later.
64 00:03:22,707 00:03:24,007 - How'd she sound? - How'd she sound?
65 00:03:24,074 00:03:25,308 - She sounded okay. - She sounded okay.
66 00:03:25,375 00:03:28,143 Um, you know, she was still at work. Um, you know, she was still at work.
67 00:03:28,211 00:03:31,846 - We have to ask you this, mr. Sawyer. - We have to ask you this, mr. Sawyer.
68 00:03:31,914 00:03:33,781 Did your wife drink? Did your wife drink?
69 00:03:33,849 00:03:37,150 - No. Maybe champagne on special occasions. - No. Maybe champagne on special occasions.
70 00:03:37,218 00:03:38,785 But that's it. Why? But that's it. Why?
71 00:03:38,853 00:03:43,189 - There was a bottle of grain alcohol in the van. - There was a bottle of grain alcohol in the van.
72 00:03:43,256 00:03:44,456 Maybe it belonged to you. Maybe it belonged to you.
73 00:03:44,524 00:03:46,958 - No. We're not drinkers. - No. We're not drinkers.
74 00:03:47,026 00:03:49,394 What are you implying? That my wife was drunk? What are you implying? That my wife was drunk?
75 00:03:49,461 00:03:51,495 - Just routine questions, mr. Sawyer. - Just routine questions, mr. Sawyer.
76 00:03:51,563 00:03:53,764 - My wife was not drunk. - My wife was not drunk.
77 00:03:53,831 00:03:56,933 No damn way. No damn way.
78 00:03:57,001 00:03:58,934 I have to go check on my son. I have to go check on my son.
79 00:04:04,205 00:04:05,640 - She has severe head trauma, - She has severe head trauma,
80 00:04:05,708 00:04:06,941 Massive internal injuries. Massive internal injuries.
81 00:04:07,009 00:04:08,443 It's not hopeful. It's not hopeful.
82 00:04:08,510 00:04:10,077 - What did the tox screen say? - What did the tox screen say?
83 00:04:10,145 00:04:13,447 - Blood alcohol was .09. - Blood alcohol was .09.
84 00:04:13,515 00:04:14,915 - Any chance we'll be able to talk - Any chance we'll be able to talk
85 00:04:14,983 00:04:16,517 To the surviving kids anytime soon? To the surviving kids anytime soon?
86 00:04:16,585 00:04:18,552 - [sobs] - [sobs]
87 00:04:18,620 00:04:22,356 Oh, my god. Oh, my god.
88 00:04:22,424 00:04:24,391 - Surviving kid. - Surviving kid.
89 00:04:24,459 00:04:26,760 The boy, nicky sawyer, is being prepped for surgery. The boy, nicky sawyer, is being prepped for surgery.
90 00:04:26,828 00:04:29,563 The little girl, sarah renquist, The little girl, sarah renquist,
91 00:04:29,631 00:04:30,964 Died ten minutes ago. Died ten minutes ago.
92 00:04:31,032 00:04:32,933 I just told her parents. I just told her parents.
93 00:04:33,001 00:04:34,167 - Thanks. - Thanks.
94 00:04:34,235 00:04:38,104 - Hmm. What do you think? - Hmm. What do you think?
95 00:04:38,172 00:04:39,605 We go talk to them? We go talk to them?
96 00:04:43,076 00:04:45,443 - Well, they can always say no. - Well, they can always say no.
97 00:04:45,511 00:04:47,513 Excuse me. Excuse me.
98 00:04:54,216 00:04:55,315 Hello. Hello.
99 00:04:55,383 00:04:57,650 Detective lupo. This is detective bernard. Detective lupo. This is detective bernard.
100 00:04:57,718 00:04:59,884 I'm very sorry for your loss. I'm very sorry for your loss.
101 00:04:59,952 00:05:02,718 We'd like to ask you a few questions if that's okay. We'd like to ask you a few questions if that's okay.
102 00:05:02,786 00:05:05,719 - Okay. - Okay.
103 00:05:05,787 00:05:07,121 - We understand brenda sawyer - We understand brenda sawyer
104 00:05:07,188 00:05:09,056 Picked her kids up from your home. Picked her kids up from your home.
105 00:05:09,123 00:05:11,591 - Yes. Our kids too. - Yes. Our kids too.
106 00:05:11,659 00:05:14,927 They were spending the weekend at brenda and matt's place. They were spending the weekend at brenda and matt's place.
107 00:05:14,995 00:05:16,629 - You both saw miss sawyer? - You both saw miss sawyer?
108 00:05:16,696 00:05:18,163 - Just me. - Just me.
109 00:05:18,231 00:05:21,299 She came by just before 5:00. She came by just before 5:00.
110 00:05:21,367 00:05:23,034 - How did she seem? - Fine. - How did she seem? - Fine.
111 00:05:23,102 00:05:25,970 She said she was gonna stop She said she was gonna stop
112 00:05:26,038 00:05:28,605 And get the kids ice cream. And get the kids ice cream.
113 00:05:28,673 00:05:31,641 - Tell them about the call. - Tell them about the call.
114 00:05:31,709 00:05:35,911 - Allie, my older one, - Allie, my older one,
115 00:05:35,978 00:05:37,345 I gave her my cell phone I gave her my cell phone
116 00:05:37,413 00:05:40,513 So she could keep in contact with us over the weekend, So she could keep in contact with us over the weekend,
117 00:05:40,580 00:05:43,415 And she called a half hour after they left, And she called a half hour after they left,
118 00:05:43,483 00:05:46,516 And she said that there was something wrong And she said that there was something wrong
119 00:05:46,583 00:05:49,218 With my sister, that she wasn't making any sense With my sister, that she wasn't making any sense
120 00:05:49,285 00:05:52,520 And she was driving all over the road. And she was driving all over the road.
121 00:05:52,588 00:05:56,057 I told allie to tell brenda to pull over, I told allie to tell brenda to pull over,
122 00:05:56,125 00:06:00,126 And then I heard allie scream. And then I heard allie scream.
123 00:06:02,996 00:06:04,697 - She was drunk, wasn't she? - She was drunk, wasn't she?
124 00:06:08,033 00:06:11,503 - Bob, sandy, I just heard about sara. - Bob, sandy, I just heard about sara.
125 00:06:11,570 00:06:15,072 - Your drunk wife killed our babies. - Your drunk wife killed our babies.
126 00:06:15,140 00:06:16,406 - No. - She killed them! - No. - She killed them!
127 00:06:16,474 00:06:19,175 - No. She wasn't drunk. - Hey, mr. Renquist. - No. She wasn't drunk. - Hey, mr. Renquist.
128 00:06:19,243 00:06:22,078 - Bob. I swear. - Let's go. - Bob. I swear. - Let's go.
129 00:06:22,146 00:06:25,348 - Bob! - Bob!
130 00:06:25,415 00:06:27,316 - This is her turning onto the west side highway - This is her turning onto the west side highway
131 00:06:27,384 00:06:30,985 At 14th street, but instead of going in the northbound lanes, At 14th street, but instead of going in the northbound lanes,
132 00:06:31,052 00:06:33,619 She turns north into the southbound lane. She turns north into the southbound lane.
133 00:06:33,687 00:06:35,521 - Traffic was light. She accelerated. - Traffic was light. She accelerated.
134 00:06:35,588 00:06:38,189 One caller to 911 has her going through the intersection One caller to 911 has her going through the intersection
135 00:06:38,257 00:06:40,325 At 22nd street at about 55. At 22nd street at about 55.
136 00:06:40,393 00:06:41,527 - Did she make any attempt to pull over? - Did she make any attempt to pull over?
137 00:06:41,595 00:06:43,596 - A.I.U. Says not according to the witnesses - A.I.U. Says not according to the witnesses
138 00:06:43,663 00:06:44,697 Or the 911 calls. Or the 911 calls.
139 00:06:44,764 00:06:45,931 - The lady was smashed. - The lady was smashed.
140 00:06:45,999 00:06:47,366 - That's a lot of bad driving - That's a lot of bad driving
141 00:06:47,434 00:06:49,701 For a .09 blood alcohol. For a .09 blood alcohol.
142 00:06:49,769 00:06:51,503 - I've seen people with a .06 who couldn't stand up. - I've seen people with a .06 who couldn't stand up.
143 00:06:51,570 00:06:53,872 - Look, the husband swears his wife didn't drink. - Look, the husband swears his wife didn't drink.
144 00:06:53,939 00:06:55,573 - Yeah, not that he's ready to admit anyway. - Yeah, not that he's ready to admit anyway.
145 00:06:55,641 00:06:58,675 - Are you two done? - Are you two done?
146 00:06:58,743 00:07:01,211 Miss sawyer's blood alcohol Miss sawyer's blood alcohol
147 00:07:01,279 00:07:02,946 Has already been leaked to the media. Has already been leaked to the media.
148 00:07:03,013 00:07:06,248 With six fatalities, including three dead kids, With six fatalities, including three dead kids,
149 00:07:06,316 00:07:08,217 This lady ever makes it out of the hospital, This lady ever makes it out of the hospital,
150 00:07:08,284 00:07:09,384 People are gonna want to string her up. People are gonna want to string her up.
151 00:07:09,452 00:07:11,553 We're gonna nail this down We're gonna nail this down
152 00:07:11,620 00:07:12,920 So there can be no doubt. So there can be no doubt.
153 00:07:12,988 00:07:14,388 Find out what she drank, Find out what she drank,
154 00:07:14,456 00:07:15,690 Where she drank it, Where she drank it,
155 00:07:15,757 00:07:17,057 And who saw her do it. And who saw her do it.
156 00:07:21,228 00:07:22,895 - We're still in total shock over this. - We're still in total shock over this.
157 00:07:22,963 00:07:24,997 Brenda was a strong member of my sales team. Brenda was a strong member of my sales team.
158 00:07:25,065 00:07:26,232 She had a beautiful family. She had a beautiful family.
159 00:07:26,299 00:07:28,734 - How was she when she left on Friday? - How was she when she left on Friday?
160 00:07:28,802 00:07:29,835 - Uh, she was good. - Uh, she was good.
161 00:07:29,902 00:07:31,102 Happy to go home. Happy to go home.
162 00:07:31,170 00:07:33,371 - And what time was that? - Maybe 4:15, 4:30. - And what time was that? - Maybe 4:15, 4:30.
163 00:07:33,438 00:07:35,239 - You ever see her have a drink at lunch - You ever see her have a drink at lunch
164 00:07:35,307 00:07:36,840 Or after hours? Or after hours?
165 00:07:36,908 00:07:38,808 - Maybe a glass of punch at a christmas party. - Maybe a glass of punch at a christmas party.
166 00:07:38,876 00:07:40,910 - She ever talk about drinking - She ever talk about drinking
167 00:07:40,978 00:07:42,979 Or being hung over? - No. Or being hung over? - No.
168 00:07:43,046 00:07:46,548 Well... - What is it, mr. Marshall? Well... - What is it, mr. Marshall?
169 00:07:46,616 00:07:48,683 - Well, when she left on Friday, - Well, when she left on Friday,
170 00:07:48,751 00:07:51,886 She said she was gonna be cooped up with four kids all weekend. She said she was gonna be cooped up with four kids all weekend.
171 00:07:51,954 00:07:53,754 She laughed and said she was gonna need a stiff drink. She laughed and said she was gonna need a stiff drink.
172 00:07:53,822 00:07:55,723 But I thought she was kidding. But I thought she was kidding.
173 00:07:55,791 00:07:56,857 - How does she get in that car - How does she get in that car
174 00:07:56,925 00:07:58,258 Stone-cold drunk? Stone-cold drunk?
175 00:07:58,326 00:07:59,426 And now her husband's saying And now her husband's saying
176 00:07:59,494 00:08:00,827 She didn't touch the stuff? She didn't touch the stuff?
177 00:08:00,895 00:08:01,961 Well, you know what that's about. Well, you know what that's about.
178 00:08:02,029 00:08:03,229 - Are you planning to take legal action - Are you planning to take legal action
179 00:08:03,297 00:08:04,230 Against matt sawyer? Against matt sawyer?
180 00:08:04,297 00:08:06,031 - You're damn right I am. - You're damn right I am.
181 00:08:06,099 00:08:09,634 I lost my wife... I lost my wife...
182 00:08:09,701 00:08:11,768 My daughter, her fiance. My daughter, her fiance.
183 00:08:11,836 00:08:14,270 - Leslie, can you please turn that off? - Leslie, can you please turn that off?
184 00:08:14,338 00:08:15,671 - Sorry, mr. Marshall. - Sorry, mr. Marshall.
185 00:08:15,739 00:08:17,939 - Okay, everybody, back to work, please. - Okay, everybody, back to work, please.
186 00:08:18,007 00:08:20,941 - no secret stash. - no secret stash.
187 00:08:21,009 00:08:23,209 No breath mints. No breath mints.
188 00:08:23,277 00:08:26,478 - You know, she told her sister she was gonna take the kids - You know, she told her sister she was gonna take the kids
189 00:08:26,545 00:08:28,379 To get ice cream before hitting the road. To get ice cream before hitting the road.
190 00:08:28,446 00:08:31,781 - So maybe someplace between her sister's and the highway. - So maybe someplace between her sister's and the highway.
191 00:08:34,150 00:08:36,785 - I remember her. Two vanillas with jimmies, - I remember her. Two vanillas with jimmies,
192 00:08:36,853 00:08:38,386 Strawberry, and a pistachio. Strawberry, and a pistachio.
193 00:08:38,454 00:08:40,854 - The paper cup she's sipping from could be a juice - The paper cup she's sipping from could be a juice
194 00:08:40,922 00:08:42,756 Or a soda she bought for a mixer. Or a soda she bought for a mixer.
195 00:08:42,824 00:08:44,857 Did she seem intoxicated to you? Did she seem intoxicated to you?
196 00:08:44,925 00:08:46,058 - She was in a good mood. - She was in a good mood.
197 00:08:46,125 00:08:49,461 I mean, she put five bucks in the tip jar. I mean, she put five bucks in the tip jar.
198 00:08:49,528 00:08:51,629 That's the lady that killed all those people? That's the lady that killed all those people?
199 00:08:51,697 00:08:52,864 - Mm. - Mm.
200 00:08:52,932 00:08:55,368 - Damn. - She tossed her drink. - Damn. - She tossed her drink.
201 00:08:55,435 00:08:56,603 You still have that garbage? You still have that garbage?
202 00:08:56,671 00:08:58,272 - Put it out for sanitation that night. - Put it out for sanitation that night.
203 00:08:58,340 00:08:59,641 - Thanks. - Thanks.
204 00:08:59,709 00:09:01,110 - Between leaving work and getting the kids, - Between leaving work and getting the kids,
205 00:09:01,177 00:09:02,946 She bought a bottle of booze and a mixer. She bought a bottle of booze and a mixer.
206 00:09:03,014 00:09:04,548 - Maybe now we can get the straight story - Maybe now we can get the straight story
207 00:09:04,616 00:09:06,316 From the husband. From the husband.
208 00:09:08,185 00:09:10,019 - I am telling you for the last time. - I am telling you for the last time.
209 00:09:10,087 00:09:12,621 My wife is not a drinker. My wife is not a drinker.
210 00:09:12,689 00:09:14,890 - We have the bottle of grain alcohol - We have the bottle of grain alcohol
211 00:09:14,957 00:09:15,957 From the car. From the car.
212 00:09:16,025 00:09:17,092 We have her on video We have her on video
213 00:09:17,159 00:09:18,493 Sipping from a drink cup Sipping from a drink cup
214 00:09:18,560 00:09:19,994 15 minutes before the crash. 15 minutes before the crash.
215 00:09:20,062 00:09:20,995 - I don't care what it says. - I don't care what it says.
216 00:09:21,062 00:09:22,329 Brenda would never do that. Brenda would never do that.
217 00:09:22,397 00:09:23,597 Never. Never.
218 00:09:23,665 00:09:27,233 - We know it's hard to admit, mr. Sawyer, - We know it's hard to admit, mr. Sawyer,
219 00:09:27,301 00:09:28,801 But you could help a lot of people. But you could help a lot of people.
220 00:09:28,869 00:09:30,836 They need to hear the truth They need to hear the truth
221 00:09:30,904 00:09:31,970 So they can move on. So they can move on.
222 00:09:32,038 00:09:34,406 - You don't think I want to move on? - You don't think I want to move on?
223 00:09:35,874 00:09:38,075 I've got in-laws that hate my guts. I've got in-laws that hate my guts.
224 00:09:38,143 00:09:39,443 I can't leave the apartment I can't leave the apartment
225 00:09:39,511 00:09:41,312 Because the papers have turned me into a pariah. Because the papers have turned me into a pariah.
226 00:09:41,379 00:09:45,148 My daughter is dead. My daughter is dead.
227 00:09:45,216 00:09:47,817 My wife and son... My wife and son...
228 00:09:47,884 00:09:51,887 And I've got a mother in there who's dying of cancer. And I've got a mother in there who's dying of cancer.
229 00:09:54,423 00:09:56,057 I have known brenda since high school. I have known brenda since high school.
230 00:09:56,124 00:09:57,891 We don't keep secrets from each other. We don't keep secrets from each other.
231 00:09:57,959 00:10:00,160 Something is off here. All right? Something is off here. All right?
232 00:10:00,228 00:10:02,996 - My daughter-in-law is aerric moth. - My daughter-in-law is aerric moth.
233 00:10:03,063 00:10:06,032 She would never put my grandchildren in danger. She would never put my grandchildren in danger.
234 00:10:06,099 00:10:08,234 - It's all right, ma. - It's all right, ma.
235 00:10:10,636 00:10:12,437 I'm begging you guys, I'm begging you guys,
236 00:10:12,504 00:10:15,673 Find out what happened. Find out what happened.
237 00:10:15,740 00:10:17,040 Please. Please.
238 00:10:22,612 00:10:23,612 - We could show him pictures - We could show him pictures
239 00:10:23,680 00:10:25,080 Of his wife taking swigs Of his wife taking swigs
240 00:10:25,148 00:10:27,315 Of grain alcohol, and he still wouldn't believe it. Of grain alcohol, and he still wouldn't believe it.
241 00:10:27,383 00:10:30,518 - When you know somebody, you know somebody. - When you know somebody, you know somebody.
242 00:10:30,585 00:10:34,154 [phone rings] [phone rings]
243 00:10:34,222 00:10:35,221 - Hello. - Hello.
244 00:10:35,289 00:10:36,890 [cell phone rings] [cell phone rings]
245 00:10:36,957 00:10:39,926 Yeah, this is him. Yeah, this is him.
246 00:10:39,993 00:10:42,461 What? What?
247 00:10:42,529 00:10:45,830 Oh, god! Oh, god!
248 00:10:45,898 00:10:47,932 Oh, god! Oh, god!
249 00:10:48,000 00:10:50,801 Oh, god. Oh, god.
250 00:10:50,869 00:10:52,702 - It's his wife. She didn't make it. - It's his wife. She didn't make it.
251 00:10:52,770 00:10:55,738 - [sobs] - [sobs]
252 00:10:57,808 00:11:01,977 - One more look, okay? - One more look, okay?
253 00:11:08,984 00:11:11,418 - Her cell phone records confirmed the call - Her cell phone records confirmed the call
254 00:11:11,486 00:11:12,819 From her husband at 4:45. From her husband at 4:45.
255 00:11:12,887 00:11:14,354 - The one where he tells her to get the kids. - The one where he tells her to get the kids.
256 00:11:14,422 00:11:17,123 - Yeah, then she got a call ten minutes before the crash - Yeah, then she got a call ten minutes before the crash
257 00:11:17,190 00:11:19,492 From a cell phone registered to her company. From a cell phone registered to her company.
258 00:11:19,559 00:11:22,027 The call lasted less than a minute. The call lasted less than a minute.
259 00:11:22,095 00:11:23,261 She was probably too wasted She was probably too wasted
260 00:11:23,329 00:11:25,063 By then to talk to anybody. By then to talk to anybody.
261 00:11:25,130 00:11:27,465 - Nasal spray for her allergies. - Nasal spray for her allergies.
262 00:11:27,532 00:11:29,500 - You see alcohol in the ingredients? - You see alcohol in the ingredients?
263 00:11:29,567 00:11:33,470 - No, but some of these allergy medications make you drowsy. - No, but some of these allergy medications make you drowsy.
264 00:11:33,537 00:11:35,772 I'm sending it to the lab. I'm sending it to the lab.
265 00:11:35,839 00:11:37,206 - Contents of her g.I. Tract - Contents of her g.I. Tract
266 00:11:37,274 00:11:39,075 Corroborate the hospital tox screen. Corroborate the hospital tox screen.
267 00:11:39,142 00:11:42,010 Grain alcohol mixed with orange juice, banana, Grain alcohol mixed with orange juice, banana,
268 00:11:42,078 00:11:43,411 And coconut. And coconut.
269 00:11:43,479 00:11:45,980 High-octane smoothie she drank on an empty stomach. High-octane smoothie she drank on an empty stomach.
270 00:11:46,048 00:11:47,881 - Could something she took for allergies - Could something she took for allergies
271 00:11:47,949 00:11:48,916 Have interacted with that? Have interacted with that?
272 00:11:48,983 00:11:50,617 - Like what? An antihistamine? - Like what? An antihistamine?
273 00:11:50,685 00:11:52,318 - There was an over-the-counter nasal spray in her car. - There was an over-the-counter nasal spray in her car.
274 00:11:52,386 00:11:53,453 - The mass spectrometer - The mass spectrometer
275 00:11:53,520 00:11:55,321 Didn't detect anything besides alcohol Didn't detect anything besides alcohol
276 00:11:55,389 00:11:58,323 That would account for her behavior. That would account for her behavior.
277 00:11:58,391 00:12:00,558 There's no big mystery here, fellas. There's no big mystery here, fellas.
278 00:12:00,626 00:12:02,426 This lady was hammered on jungle juice. This lady was hammered on jungle juice.
279 00:12:04,996 00:12:07,264 - Thanks. - Thanks.
280 00:12:07,332 00:12:09,032 We've tried it every other way. We've tried it every other way.
281 00:12:09,100 00:12:11,033 It all comes back to her being drunk. It all comes back to her being drunk.
282 00:12:11,101 00:12:12,968 - I'd feel a lot better if we could find the store - I'd feel a lot better if we could find the store
283 00:12:13,036 00:12:14,970 That sold her the booze. That sold her the booze.
284 00:12:15,038 00:12:18,473 - Hey, sorry to crash the party. - Hey, sorry to crash the party.
285 00:12:18,541 00:12:20,576 After you told me about her allergies, After you told me about her allergies,
286 00:12:20,644 00:12:23,379 I took another look at her nasal mucosa. I took another look at her nasal mucosa.
287 00:12:23,447 00:12:24,781 There was chronic inflammation. There was chronic inflammation.
288 00:12:24,849 00:12:27,751 So I checked with the tox lab So I checked with the tox lab
289 00:12:27,819 00:12:30,755 About the nasal spray. About the nasal spray.
290 00:12:30,822 00:12:31,822 - Propofol? - Propofol?
291 00:12:31,890 00:12:33,991 An anesthetic, right? An anesthetic, right?
292 00:12:34,059 00:12:35,359 - Yeah. Powerful one. - Yeah. Powerful one.
293 00:12:35,427 00:12:37,394 Also known as milk of amnesia. Also known as milk of amnesia.
294 00:12:37,462 00:12:39,530 Yeah, it's been in the news. Yeah, it's been in the news.
295 00:12:39,598 00:12:41,366 It would cause immediate disorientation It would cause immediate disorientation
296 00:12:41,433 00:12:44,235 And lack of control if she sprayed it in her nose. And lack of control if she sprayed it in her nose.
297 00:12:44,303 00:12:46,437 - And all tox screens on brenda sawyer missed it? - And all tox screens on brenda sawyer missed it?
298 00:12:46,505 00:12:47,639 - It dissipates in minutes. - It dissipates in minutes.
299 00:12:47,706 00:12:49,140 It wouldn't be detected. It wouldn't be detected.
300 00:12:49,208 00:12:52,677 - So somebody spiked her nasal spray with this stuff? - So somebody spiked her nasal spray with this stuff?
301 00:12:52,745 00:12:54,212 - Without a doubt. - Without a doubt.
302 00:12:56,815 00:12:59,150 - Well, when you're right, you're right. - Well, when you're right, you're right.
303 00:13:08,423 00:13:09,689 - The lot number on the nasal spray - The lot number on the nasal spray
304 00:13:09,756 00:13:11,256 Traces to a pharmacy on 23rd street. Traces to a pharmacy on 23rd street.
305 00:13:11,324 00:13:13,091 - Well, alert the health department. - Well, alert the health department.
306 00:13:13,159 00:13:14,358 They'll need to pull all the sprays They'll need to pull all the sprays
307 00:13:14,426 00:13:15,926 From that store and have them tested. From that store and have them tested.
308 00:13:15,994 00:13:17,660 - Another tylenol scare. - Another tylenol scare.
309 00:13:17,728 00:13:18,961 Great. - Just covering the bases. Great. - Just covering the bases.
310 00:13:19,029 00:13:21,931 - Hey, how about this base? - Hey, how about this base?
311 00:13:21,999 00:13:24,801 Guess who's one of four companies that make propofol? Guess who's one of four companies that make propofol?
312 00:13:24,869 00:13:26,569 Woodmoor pharma. Woodmoor pharma.
313 00:13:26,637 00:13:28,738 - The company brenda sawyer worked for. - The company brenda sawyer worked for.
314 00:13:28,805 00:13:31,440 - Well, that opens up a whole new world of suspects. - Well, that opens up a whole new world of suspects.
315 00:13:31,508 00:13:32,608 Maybe someone there Maybe someone there
316 00:13:32,676 00:13:34,378 Had a beef with ms. Sawyer. Had a beef with ms. Sawyer.
317 00:13:34,446 00:13:36,781 Talk to her husband. Talk to her husband.
318 00:13:39,384 00:13:40,384 - So it wasn't her fault. - So it wasn't her fault.
319 00:13:40,452 00:13:41,385 - Let's take one thing at a time. - Let's take one thing at a time.
320 00:13:41,453 00:13:42,486 - But you have to let people know - But you have to let people know
321 00:13:42,554 00:13:43,486 It wasn't brenda's fault. It wasn't brenda's fault.
322 00:13:43,554 00:13:44,620 - First we find the person - First we find the person
323 00:13:44,688 00:13:46,755 Who tampered with her nasal spray, okay? Who tampered with her nasal spray, okay?
324 00:13:46,823 00:13:49,591 - Was she having problems at her work? - Was she having problems at her work?
325 00:13:49,658 00:13:50,591 - She was busy lately. - She was busy lately.
326 00:13:50,659 00:13:52,126 A lot of stress. A lot of stress.
327 00:13:52,194 00:13:55,635 - With anything or anyone in particular? - With anything or anyone in particular?
328 00:13:55,703 00:13:56,771 - I'm not sure. - I'm not sure.
329 00:13:56,839 00:13:57,972 She was staying late at work. She was staying late at work.
330 00:13:58,040 00:14:00,309 I've been preoccupied with my mom I've been preoccupied with my mom
331 00:14:00,376 00:14:02,144 And her cancer, so... And her cancer, so...
332 00:14:02,211 00:14:04,479 Brenda and I, we hadn't had a lot of time to talk. Brenda and I, we hadn't had a lot of time to talk.
333 00:14:04,547 00:14:05,715 Excuse me. Excuse me.
334 00:14:05,782 00:14:08,285 They just brought my son down from icu. They just brought my son down from icu.
335 00:14:08,353 00:14:10,888 He's been asking about his mom. He's been asking about his mom.
336 00:14:10,956 00:14:16,192 - Yeah. Go ahead, mr. Sawyer. - Yeah. Go ahead, mr. Sawyer.
337 00:14:16,259 00:14:20,131 - Staying late at work, huh? - Staying late at work, huh?
338 00:14:20,198 00:14:22,700 - I want to be helpful. - You're doing okay. - I want to be helpful. - You're doing okay.
339 00:14:22,768 00:14:25,836 Let's start with some easy questions. Let's start with some easy questions.
340 00:14:25,904 00:14:27,704 Brenda, she had allergies, right? Brenda, she had allergies, right?
341 00:14:27,772 00:14:28,705 - Yes. - Yes.
342 00:14:28,773 00:14:30,874 She was always spritzing stuff She was always spritzing stuff
343 00:14:30,941 00:14:32,575 Up her nose. Up her nose.
344 00:14:32,643 00:14:35,411 - Where did she keep her nasal spray? - Where did she keep her nasal spray?
345 00:14:35,479 00:14:37,212 - In her purse. - In her purse.
346 00:14:37,280 00:14:39,681 - And her purse. Where did she keep that? - And her purse. Where did she keep that?
347 00:14:39,749 00:14:41,116 - On her desk. - On her desk.
348 00:14:41,184 00:14:43,985 Or next to it-- is this helping? Or next to it-- is this helping?
349 00:14:44,052 00:14:46,754 - Big time. Okay, touchier subject now. - Big time. Okay, touchier subject now.
350 00:14:46,821 00:14:48,389 How did she get along with people here? How did she get along with people here?
351 00:14:48,456 00:14:50,990 - Oh, everyone thought the world of her. - Oh, everyone thought the world of her.
352 00:14:51,058 00:14:53,159 - We heard she'd been staying late the last few weeks. - We heard she'd been staying late the last few weeks.
353 00:14:53,226 00:14:54,560 What was that about? What was that about?
354 00:14:54,627 00:14:56,361 She and zack-- that's mr. Marshall, She and zack-- that's mr. Marshall,
355 00:14:56,429 00:14:58,396 The head of the sales department-- The head of the sales department--
356 00:14:58,464 00:15:00,263 They had this big project together. They had this big project together.
357 00:15:00,331 00:15:02,198 - Project. That sounds interesting. - Project. That sounds interesting.
358 00:15:02,265 00:15:03,232 - Oh, for sure. - Oh, for sure.
359 00:15:03,299 00:15:05,133 Um, the night before the accident, Um, the night before the accident,
360 00:15:05,201 00:15:06,267 They were in his office They were in his office
361 00:15:06,335 00:15:08,036 In this big hush-hush, and they stopped In this big hush-hush, and they stopped
362 00:15:08,104 00:15:09,540 When they saw me. When they saw me.
363 00:15:09,608 00:15:10,675 - How about the day of the accident? - How about the day of the accident?
364 00:15:10,742 00:15:12,243 Were they getting along? Were they getting along?
365 00:15:12,310 00:15:13,543 - Zack called in after he left - Zack called in after he left
366 00:15:13,611 00:15:15,344 Looking for her, and I said Looking for her, and I said
367 00:15:15,412 00:15:17,779 That she went to pick up her kids. That she went to pick up her kids.
368 00:15:17,847 00:15:19,748 He didn't seem too happy. He didn't seem too happy.
369 00:15:19,816 00:15:22,750 - Did he call from a cell phone? - Did he call from a cell phone?
370 00:15:22,818 00:15:27,354 You know the number? You know the number?
371 00:15:27,422 00:15:28,955 - This isn't his personal phone. - This isn't his personal phone.
372 00:15:29,023 00:15:31,090 It's the one the company gave him. It's the one the company gave him.
373 00:15:31,158 00:15:33,293 - Thanks. You've been very helpful. - Thanks. You've been very helpful.
374 00:15:33,361 00:15:35,428 - Really? - Yeah. - Really? - Yeah.
375 00:15:35,496 00:15:38,496 - I'm glad. - I'm glad.
376 00:15:38,564 00:15:40,297 - Big hush-hush. - Big hush-hush.
377 00:15:40,365 00:15:43,200 It's either personal, professional, or... It's either personal, professional, or...
378 00:15:43,267 00:15:44,534 Mineral. Mineral.
379 00:15:44,602 00:15:47,136 - Yeah, well, his number matches the number - Yeah, well, his number matches the number
380 00:15:47,204 00:15:49,238 That called brenda in the minivan. That called brenda in the minivan.
381 00:15:49,305 00:15:52,607 Maybe her son overheard the conversation. Maybe her son overheard the conversation.
382 00:15:52,675 00:15:55,842 - Her son who just got out of the I.C.U.? - Her son who just got out of the I.C.U.?
383 00:15:55,910 00:15:58,678 You I.A. Guys are cold. You I.A. Guys are cold.
384 00:16:05,051 00:16:07,385 - I can really keep it? - I can really keep it?
385 00:16:07,453 00:16:08,719 - It's yours. - It's yours.
386 00:16:08,787 00:16:10,221 Especially since you're going to help us Especially since you're going to help us
387 00:16:10,288 00:16:11,989 With some of our detective work. With some of our detective work.
388 00:16:12,056 00:16:14,925 - Okay. - Okay.
389 00:16:14,992 00:16:17,593 - Now we know some of the stuff may be hard to talk about. - Now we know some of the stuff may be hard to talk about.
390 00:16:17,661 00:16:18,861 So you just let us know So you just let us know
391 00:16:18,929 00:16:22,630 And we can talk about it some other time. And we can talk about it some other time.
392 00:16:22,698 00:16:23,998 - I don't care. - I don't care.
393 00:16:24,066 00:16:25,466 - Okay. - Okay.
394 00:16:25,534 00:16:28,535 When you were in the car, When you were in the car,
395 00:16:28,603 00:16:30,670 Before the accident, Before the accident,
396 00:16:30,738 00:16:32,738 Do you remember your mom getting a phone call? Do you remember your mom getting a phone call?
397 00:16:35,109 00:16:38,276 - Yes. From her boss. - Yes. From her boss.
398 00:16:38,344 00:16:40,012 She couldn't hear him. She couldn't hear him.
399 00:16:40,080 00:16:42,648 So she hung up. So she hung up.
400 00:16:42,716 00:16:45,849 She was acting weird. She was acting weird.
401 00:16:45,917 00:16:47,117 - We understand, nicky. - We understand, nicky.
402 00:16:47,185 00:16:49,689 We know it wasn't your mother's fault. We know it wasn't your mother's fault.
403 00:16:49,757 00:16:52,292 Did she say anything about her boss? Did she say anything about her boss?
404 00:16:52,360 00:16:55,461 - She said he was nice. - She said he was nice.
405 00:16:55,529 00:16:57,697 And he bought her a jamjuice smoothie. And he bought her a jamjuice smoothie.
406 00:16:57,764 00:17:01,767 - The smoothie she was drinking - The smoothie she was drinking
407 00:17:01,835 00:17:03,235 When you guys stopped to buy ice cream? When you guys stopped to buy ice cream?
408 00:17:05,004 00:17:05,937 - A jamjuice franchise - A jamjuice franchise
409 00:17:06,005 00:17:07,472 Three blocks from woodmoor pharma Three blocks from woodmoor pharma
410 00:17:07,539 00:17:09,374 Made a delivery late Friday afternoon. Made a delivery late Friday afternoon.
411 00:17:09,441 00:17:11,542 Eight smoothies, enough for the whole sales staff. Eight smoothies, enough for the whole sales staff.
412 00:17:11,610 00:17:13,610 Charged to zack marshall's corporate card. Charged to zack marshall's corporate card.
413 00:17:13,678 00:17:15,812 - He spiked her smoothie and her nasal spray. - He spiked her smoothie and her nasal spray.
414 00:17:15,880 00:17:17,547 - She parked in the company garage. - She parked in the company garage.
415 00:17:17,615 00:17:18,681 He could have planted the liquor bottle He could have planted the liquor bottle
416 00:17:18,749 00:17:19,882 In her minivan too. In her minivan too.
417 00:17:19,950 00:17:22,718 - He wanted us to think she crashed her car - He wanted us to think she crashed her car
418 00:17:22,785 00:17:24,386 Because she was drunk, not because she was knocked out Because she was drunk, not because she was knocked out
419 00:17:24,453 00:17:25,453 On propofol. On propofol.
420 00:17:25,521 00:17:27,188 - Crazy scheme. - Crazy scheme.
421 00:17:27,256 00:17:28,822 - Well, you're gonna love this. Here. - Well, you're gonna love this. Here.
422 00:17:28,890 00:17:30,958 The 911 calls about the minivan, The 911 calls about the minivan,
423 00:17:31,026 00:17:33,694 They were all made between 5:24 and 5:25, They were all made between 5:24 and 5:25,
424 00:17:33,762 00:17:35,830 All except one, All except one,
425 00:17:35,898 00:17:39,467 Made at 5:16 from a payphone in tuckahoe. Made at 5:16 from a payphone in tuckahoe.
426 00:17:39,534 00:17:42,036 - Ten miles from the west side highway. - Ten miles from the west side highway.
427 00:17:42,104 00:17:45,306 Someone must have a big crystal ball. Someone must have a big crystal ball.
428 00:17:45,374 00:17:47,208 - Zack marshall's phone call to brenda sawyer - Zack marshall's phone call to brenda sawyer
429 00:17:47,275 00:17:49,910 Two minutes earlier hit off a cell phone tower Two minutes earlier hit off a cell phone tower
430 00:17:49,978 00:17:52,079 In tuckahoe. In tuckahoe.
431 00:17:52,146 00:17:54,915 - I treat my team to smoothies every Friday. - I treat my team to smoothies every Friday.
432 00:17:54,983 00:17:57,150 Kind of a attaboy motivator. Kind of a attaboy motivator.
433 00:17:57,218 00:17:58,717 - But you didn't notice brenda pouring a little extra kick - But you didn't notice brenda pouring a little extra kick
434 00:17:58,785 00:18:00,018 Into her cup, did you? - No. Into her cup, did you? - No.
435 00:18:00,086 00:18:01,919 She knew I didn't tolerate that kind of behavior. She knew I didn't tolerate that kind of behavior.
436 00:18:01,986 00:18:03,586 - After you both left the office, - After you both left the office,
437 00:18:03,653 00:18:08,488 You called her? - No. You called her? - No.
438 00:18:08,556 00:18:11,357 - This is the list of all the calls you made. - This is the list of all the calls you made.
439 00:18:11,424 00:18:13,558 You see that one right there? You see that one right there?
440 00:18:13,626 00:18:16,027 You didn't tell us you called her. You didn't tell us you called her.
441 00:18:16,095 00:18:18,030 [soda can opens] [soda can opens]
442 00:18:18,098 00:18:19,833 - I didn't know. - I didn't know.
443 00:18:19,901 00:18:21,735 I was driving with my phone in my pocket. I was driving with my phone in my pocket.
444 00:18:21,803 00:18:22,736 I had brenda on speed dial. I had brenda on speed dial.
445 00:18:22,804 00:18:24,204 I must have hit it by mistake. I must have hit it by mistake.
446 00:18:24,272 00:18:27,507 - Huh. Why did you have her on speed dial? - Huh. Why did you have her on speed dial?
447 00:18:27,574 00:18:29,442 - Well, I have all of my team on speed dial. - Well, I have all of my team on speed dial.
448 00:18:29,509 00:18:31,410 - Could we see your phone? - Could we see your phone?
449 00:18:31,478 00:18:32,811 - Well, I don't know. - Well, I don't know.
450 00:18:32,879 00:18:34,112 I deleted brenda's entry. I deleted brenda's entry.
451 00:18:34,180 00:18:35,847 I think I deleted some others. I think I deleted some others.
452 00:18:35,915 00:18:38,015 Moving them around. I'm not good at these gadgets. Moving them around. I'm not good at these gadgets.
453 00:18:38,083 00:18:39,049 Anyway, it's not important, is it? Anyway, it's not important, is it?
454 00:18:39,117 00:18:40,884 - Oh, it is. - Oh, it is.
455 00:18:40,952 00:18:43,285 You see, you and brenda have been staying late together You see, you and brenda have been staying late together
456 00:18:43,353 00:18:47,222 These last couple of weeks. These last couple of weeks.
457 00:18:47,289 00:18:49,524 People saw you, zack. People saw you, zack.
458 00:18:49,592 00:18:52,193 What were you working on? What were you working on?
459 00:18:52,261 00:18:53,661 - I can't say. - Mm-hmm. - I can't say. - Mm-hmm.
460 00:18:53,729 00:18:55,562 - It's confidential information. It belongs to the company. - It's confidential information. It belongs to the company.
461 00:18:55,630 00:18:56,763 - Are you sure you were working? - Are you sure you were working?
462 00:18:56,831 00:18:58,131 - What else would it be? - What else would it be?
463 00:18:58,199 00:18:59,833 - You tell us. - You tell us.
464 00:19:02,869 00:19:06,071 - Oh, no. - Oh, no.
465 00:19:06,139 00:19:07,506 No way. I'm married. No way. I'm married.
466 00:19:07,573 00:19:10,541 She was married. She had kids, for god's sake. She was married. She had kids, for god's sake.
467 00:19:12,511 00:19:15,779 - Her kids and her nieces. - Her kids and her nieces.
468 00:19:15,847 00:19:20,149 This is what they looked like before the accident. This is what they looked like before the accident.
469 00:19:20,217 00:19:21,651 You want to see the after pictures? You want to see the after pictures?
470 00:19:21,718 00:19:23,018 - No, I don't need to see that. - No, I don't need to see that.
471 00:19:23,086 00:19:24,853 - Yeah, we know, had this been in your power, - Yeah, we know, had this been in your power,
472 00:19:24,921 00:19:26,655 You would have done everything to stop it from happening. You would have done everything to stop it from happening.
473 00:19:26,722 00:19:28,623 - Of course. It was terrible. - Of course. It was terrible.
474 00:19:28,691 00:19:30,091 - But you did try, didn't you? - But you did try, didn't you?
475 00:19:30,159 00:19:32,092 You called 911. You called 911.
476 00:19:32,160 00:19:33,460 - No, I didn't. - Yes, you did. - No, I didn't. - Yes, you did.
477 00:19:33,528 00:19:36,463 From a payphone in tuckahoe. From a payphone in tuckahoe.
478 00:19:36,530 00:19:38,264 - She's in a dark blue minivan with new york plates. - She's in a dark blue minivan with new york plates.
479 00:19:38,332 00:19:39,465 She's got kids with her. She's got kids with her.
480 00:19:39,533 00:19:40,599 Send somebody right away. Please. Send somebody right away. Please.
481 00:19:40,667 00:19:42,034 - What location, sir? - What location, sir?
482 00:19:42,102 00:19:44,837 - You see, you tried to get the police - You see, you tried to get the police
483 00:19:44,904 00:19:46,471 To pull her over before she got on the highway, To pull her over before she got on the highway,
484 00:19:46,539 00:19:47,872 Before she was knocked out by the propofol Before she was knocked out by the propofol
485 00:19:47,940 00:19:49,507 You put in her nasal spray. You put in her nasal spray.
486 00:19:49,575 00:19:50,608 - I didn't mean-- I didn't mean-- - I didn't mean-- I didn't mean--
487 00:19:50,676 00:19:52,042 - You didn't mean what? - You didn't mean what?
488 00:19:52,110 00:19:53,611 - You didn't mean what, zack, huh? - You didn't mean what, zack, huh?
489 00:19:53,678 00:19:55,479 You didn't mean to get these kids killed? You didn't mean to get these kids killed?
490 00:19:55,547 00:19:56,847 Is that what you mean? Is that what you mean?
491 00:19:56,915 00:19:58,548 You didn't know they were going to be You didn't know they were going to be
492 00:19:58,616 00:19:59,983 In the minivan, is that right? In the minivan, is that right?
493 00:20:00,051 00:20:01,151 - [hyperventilates] - [hyperventilates]
494 00:20:01,218 00:20:02,485 - Look at the pictures, zack. - Look at the pictures, zack.
495 00:20:02,553 00:20:05,487 You didn't mean to kill these kids, did you? You didn't mean to kill these kids, did you?
496 00:20:05,555 00:20:08,156 - I got to go to the bathroom. - I got to go to the bathroom.
497 00:20:08,224 00:20:10,792 [coughs] please, I got to go! [coughs] please, I got to go!
498 00:20:10,860 00:20:11,793 Please! Please!
499 00:20:11,861 00:20:14,863 [coughs violently] [coughs violently]
500 00:20:19,101 00:20:21,002 - Hey, we'll hang on to your jacket. - Hey, we'll hang on to your jacket.
501 00:20:21,069 00:20:24,371 Give it to me. Give it to me.
502 00:20:24,439 00:20:27,707 - [retching] - [retching]
503 00:20:27,775 00:20:30,776 [moans] [moans]
504 00:20:33,913 00:20:36,414 - You okay in there? - You okay in there?
505 00:20:36,482 00:20:38,749 - Oh, god. - Oh, god.
506 00:20:41,753 00:20:43,653 - Get a paramedic. - Get a paramedic.
507 00:20:43,721 00:20:47,723 Get a paramedic, damn it. Get a paramedic, damn it.
508 00:20:47,791 00:20:50,058 Oh, oh, god! Oh! Oh, oh, god! Oh!
509 00:20:50,126 00:20:52,527 - Let me go. Let me die! - Let me go. Let me die!
510 00:20:52,595 00:20:54,162 - No, I'm not gonna let you go - No, I'm not gonna let you go
511 00:20:54,229 00:20:55,463 That easy, my friend. That easy, my friend.
512 00:20:55,531 00:20:56,897 Lupes! Lupes!
513 00:20:56,965 00:20:59,065 He stuck a ballpoint pen in his neck. He stuck a ballpoint pen in his neck.
514 00:20:59,133 00:21:01,667 - Son of a bitch. - Grab his hands. - Son of a bitch. - Grab his hands.
515 00:21:01,735 00:21:03,335 - [grunts] - [grunts]
516 00:21:03,403 00:21:08,406 - Don't think that didn't cross my mind. - Don't think that didn't cross my mind.
517 00:21:12,879 00:21:14,212 - Should I stand over there? - Should I stand over there?
518 00:21:14,280 00:21:15,646 - You're fine where you are, mr. Cooper. - You're fine where you are, mr. Cooper.
519 00:21:15,714 00:21:17,414 People v. Zachary marshall, People v. Zachary marshall,
520 00:21:17,482 00:21:20,618 Murder in the second degree, seven counts. Murder in the second degree, seven counts.
521 00:21:20,685 00:21:21,885 - How does mr. Marshall plead? - How does mr. Marshall plead?
522 00:21:21,953 00:21:23,520 - Not guilty on all charges. - Not guilty on all charges.
523 00:21:23,588 00:21:25,255 - People request remand. - People request remand.
524 00:21:25,322 00:21:26,589 - I want to see my wife. - I'm working on that. - I want to see my wife. - I'm working on that.
525 00:21:26,657 00:21:29,191 Your honor, my client's obviously Your honor, my client's obviously
526 00:21:29,259 00:21:31,327 Under a doctor's care and not a flight risk. Under a doctor's care and not a flight risk.
527 00:21:31,394 00:21:33,328 - He's under a doctor's care due to a suicide attempt, - He's under a doctor's care due to a suicide attempt,
528 00:21:33,396 00:21:35,063 Which evinces consciousness of his guilt. Which evinces consciousness of his guilt.
529 00:21:35,131 00:21:37,999 - It wasn't guilt. He was upset by the allegations. - It wasn't guilt. He was upset by the allegations.
530 00:21:38,067 00:21:39,334 - He was upset because he killed more people - He was upset because he killed more people
531 00:21:39,402 00:21:41,536 On a new york roadway than anyone in history. On a new york roadway than anyone in history.
532 00:21:41,604 00:21:43,671 - Your honor, even the police claim - Your honor, even the police claim
533 00:21:43,739 00:21:45,773 That my client tried to avert this tragedy. That my client tried to avert this tragedy.
534 00:21:45,841 00:21:49,075 - Sounds like mr. Cooper is admitting intentional murder - Sounds like mr. Cooper is admitting intentional murder
535 00:21:49,143 00:21:50,477 And asserting renunciation. And asserting renunciation.
536 00:21:50,544 00:21:52,445 - No, not necessarily. - No, not necessarily.
537 00:21:52,513 00:21:55,281 - I suggest you figure it out, mr. Cooper. - I suggest you figure it out, mr. Cooper.
538 00:21:55,349 00:21:56,615 Your client's remanded. Your client's remanded.
539 00:21:56,683 00:22:00,018 - His lawyer practically stumbled into a confession. - His lawyer practically stumbled into a confession.
540 00:22:00,086 00:22:01,553 - Well, we could use a confession. - Well, we could use a confession.
541 00:22:01,621 00:22:04,555 A suicide attempt and a smoothie won't convict mr. Marshall. A suicide attempt and a smoothie won't convict mr. Marshall.
542 00:22:04,623 00:22:06,990 - The police found the foil wrapper to a nasal spray - The police found the foil wrapper to a nasal spray
543 00:22:07,058 00:22:08,191 In marshall's house. In marshall's house.
544 00:22:08,259 00:22:10,026 Same brand as the one in brenda's car. Same brand as the one in brenda's car.
545 00:22:10,094 00:22:12,629 - Better. Not as good as evidence of an affair - Better. Not as good as evidence of an affair
546 00:22:12,697 00:22:14,998 Or of putting the propofol in his hands. Or of putting the propofol in his hands.
547 00:22:15,066 00:22:18,668 - His company stores it in a warehouse in white plains. - His company stores it in a warehouse in white plains.
548 00:22:18,736 00:22:22,738 - Well, have a nice drive. - Well, have a nice drive.
549 00:22:24,840 00:22:28,009 - Zack marshall, he's been out here in the past month. - Zack marshall, he's been out here in the past month.
550 00:22:28,076 00:22:31,045 - Been out here a few times by the looks of it. - Been out here a few times by the looks of it.
551 00:22:31,113 00:22:34,148 Would he have had access to any products here? Would he have had access to any products here?
552 00:22:34,216 00:22:35,683 Maybe samples? Maybe samples?
553 00:22:35,750 00:22:37,585 - Salespeople are issued samples, sure. - Salespeople are issued samples, sure.
554 00:22:37,652 00:22:39,019 - How about propofol? - How about propofol?
555 00:22:39,087 00:22:40,787 - We don't give out samples of propofol. - We don't give out samples of propofol.
556 00:22:40,855 00:22:42,556 - How would mr. Marshall get access to it? - How would mr. Marshall get access to it?
557 00:22:42,623 00:22:44,023 - He wouldn't. - He wouldn't.
558 00:22:44,091 00:22:45,758 We have security measures. We have security measures.
559 00:22:45,825 00:22:47,058 We got a dozen government agencies We got a dozen government agencies
560 00:22:47,126 00:22:48,826 Breathing down our necks. Breathing down our necks.
561 00:22:48,894 00:22:51,095 - Is it normal for a sales manager - Is it normal for a sales manager
562 00:22:51,162 00:22:52,596 To visit the warehouse so often? To visit the warehouse so often?
563 00:22:52,664 00:22:54,264 - If he has an issue with distribution. - If he has an issue with distribution.
564 00:22:54,332 00:22:56,366 - Did he? - Did he?
565 00:22:56,434 00:22:57,600 - Not that I recall. - Not that I recall.
566 00:22:57,668 00:22:59,102 - I see a couple times - I see a couple times
567 00:22:59,169 00:23:00,871 Where brenda sawyer signed in with him. Where brenda sawyer signed in with him.
568 00:23:00,938 00:23:02,506 Did they always come together? Did they always come together?
569 00:23:02,574 00:23:04,208 - A couple times she came by herself. - A couple times she came by herself.
570 00:23:04,275 00:23:05,208 - Do you remember what for? - Do you remember what for?
571 00:23:05,276 00:23:07,610 - She was looking at sales data - She was looking at sales data
572 00:23:07,678 00:23:09,478 For one of our drugs. For one of our drugs.
573 00:23:09,546 00:23:13,348 Lextenda. Lextenda.
574 00:23:13,416 00:23:15,516 - Brenda sawyer didn't rep lextenda. - Brenda sawyer didn't rep lextenda.
575 00:23:15,584 00:23:16,784 She say why she was interested? She say why she was interested?
576 00:23:16,852 00:23:18,786 - She said there was a distribution issue - She said there was a distribution issue
577 00:23:18,853 00:23:21,821 With the cancer clinic one of her relatives was using. With the cancer clinic one of her relatives was using.
578 00:23:21,889 00:23:26,925 - Losing brenda was a horrible loss for matt. - Losing brenda was a horrible loss for matt.
579 00:23:26,993 00:23:28,426 And nicky. And nicky.
580 00:23:28,493 00:23:31,762 Growing up without a mother. Growing up without a mother.
581 00:23:31,829 00:23:33,630 - It's nice that they have you here with them. - It's nice that they have you here with them.
582 00:23:33,698 00:23:35,899 - For as long as I last. - For as long as I last.
583 00:23:35,967 00:23:38,100 I'm a realist, dear. I'm a realist, dear.
584 00:23:38,168 00:23:41,036 People my age don't beat colon cancer. People my age don't beat colon cancer.
585 00:23:41,104 00:23:44,772 Now, what can I do for you? Now, what can I do for you?
586 00:23:44,840 00:23:46,207 - I need to know, - I need to know,
587 00:23:46,275 00:23:49,544 Did brenda ever talk to you about a drug called lextenda? Did brenda ever talk to you about a drug called lextenda?
588 00:23:49,612 00:23:51,813 - Yes. My clinic had me on it, - Yes. My clinic had me on it,
589 00:23:51,881 00:23:53,915 But brenda made me stop taking it. But brenda made me stop taking it.
590 00:23:53,983 00:23:55,650 - Even though her company made the drug? - Even though her company made the drug?
591 00:23:55,718 00:23:57,285 Did she say why? Did she say why?
592 00:23:57,352 00:24:00,153 - She didn't think it was right for me. - She didn't think it was right for me.
593 00:24:00,221 00:24:04,654 It was after she spoke with albert's son. It was after she spoke with albert's son.
594 00:24:04,722 00:24:05,788 [sighs] [sighs]
595 00:24:05,856 00:24:07,957 Albert was at the clinic. Albert was at the clinic.
596 00:24:08,025 00:24:09,492 He had colon cancer. He had colon cancer.
597 00:24:09,559 00:24:12,928 He was taking lextenda. He was taking lextenda.
598 00:24:12,995 00:24:17,498 When albert's son found out that brenda worked for woodmoor, When albert's son found out that brenda worked for woodmoor,
599 00:24:17,566 00:24:19,433 He got very upset with her. He got very upset with her.
600 00:24:19,501 00:24:20,668 - Because of lextenda? - Because of lextenda?
601 00:24:20,735 00:24:22,302 - I'm not sure. - I'm not sure.
602 00:24:22,370 00:24:26,238 She spent a lot of time talking to him. She spent a lot of time talking to him.
603 00:24:28,274 00:24:29,941 - My father made peace with dying. - My father made peace with dying.
604 00:24:30,009 00:24:31,576 He even signed his own dnr. He even signed his own dnr.
605 00:24:31,644 00:24:33,512 The clinic then put him on the new medicine The clinic then put him on the new medicine
606 00:24:33,579 00:24:36,281 They said would extend his life for months, even years. They said would extend his life for months, even years.
607 00:24:36,349 00:24:37,382 - And that medicine was lextenda. - And that medicine was lextenda.
608 00:24:37,450 00:24:39,150 - Right, a thousand bucks a day. - Right, a thousand bucks a day.
609 00:24:39,218 00:24:40,851 The cancer had already maxed out my pop's insurance, The cancer had already maxed out my pop's insurance,
610 00:24:40,919 00:24:42,853 So we had to pay for it out of our own pocket. So we had to pay for it out of our own pocket.
611 00:24:42,921 00:24:44,756 - And what happened? - Pops kept getting worse. - And what happened? - Pops kept getting worse.
612 00:24:44,823 00:24:47,658 That lextenda didn't do anything for him. That lextenda didn't do anything for him.
613 00:24:47,726 00:24:48,993 I wanted to take him off it, I wanted to take him off it,
614 00:24:49,061 00:24:51,595 But the clinic talked my mom into keeping him on it. But the clinic talked my mom into keeping him on it.
615 00:24:51,663 00:24:54,365 And she used up all her savings to pay for that drug. And she used up all her savings to pay for that drug.
616 00:24:54,432 00:24:55,799 And for what? And for what?
617 00:24:55,867 00:24:57,901 My pops spent the last five weeks of his life in agony, My pops spent the last five weeks of his life in agony,
618 00:24:57,969 00:24:59,803 And now my mom can't afford to be in the house And now my mom can't afford to be in the house
619 00:24:59,871 00:25:02,139 That she's been in for 40 years? That she's been in for 40 years?
620 00:25:02,207 00:25:03,507 - I'm so sorry. - I'm so sorry.
621 00:25:03,575 00:25:05,642 I was told that you got very upset I was told that you got very upset
622 00:25:05,710 00:25:07,277 With brenda sawyer when you found out With brenda sawyer when you found out
623 00:25:07,345 00:25:10,013 She worked for the company that made lextenda. She worked for the company that made lextenda.
624 00:25:10,081 00:25:14,050 - Yeah, I kind of lost it there. - Yeah, I kind of lost it there.
625 00:25:14,118 00:25:17,319 Brenda was a real angel. Brenda was a real angel.
626 00:25:17,387 00:25:19,587 She listened to me. She listened to me.
627 00:25:19,655 00:25:21,787 She didn't know about lextenda. She didn't know about lextenda.
628 00:25:21,855 00:25:22,955 She said she'd look into it. She said she'd look into it.
629 00:25:23,022 00:25:24,622 - What did she find out? - What did she find out?
630 00:25:24,690 00:25:26,455 - I'm not sure. - I'm not sure.
631 00:25:26,523 00:25:28,388 I lost touch with her after my pops died. I lost touch with her after my pops died.
632 00:25:28,456 00:25:30,388 I know she got into this big thing with dr. Price, I know she got into this big thing with dr. Price,
633 00:25:30,456 00:25:32,789 The head of the clinic. The head of the clinic.
634 00:25:32,857 00:25:35,191 - People with loved ones - People with loved ones
635 00:25:35,258 00:25:38,227 Who are terminally ill want miracles. Who are terminally ill want miracles.
636 00:25:38,294 00:25:40,595 When they don't get them, they get angry. When they don't get them, they get angry.
637 00:25:40,663 00:25:42,130 They blame the doctor. They blame the drugs. They blame the doctor. They blame the drugs.
638 00:25:42,198 00:25:45,900 - What specifically did brenda sawyer discuss with you? - What specifically did brenda sawyer discuss with you?
639 00:25:45,967 00:25:48,969 - She didn't want her mother-in-law on lextenda. - She didn't want her mother-in-law on lextenda.
640 00:25:49,037 00:25:50,036 - Why? - Why?
641 00:25:50,104 00:25:53,305 - She wanted to show me some data - She wanted to show me some data
642 00:25:53,373 00:25:55,907 On her laptop, but she was a salesperson. On her laptop, but she was a salesperson.
643 00:25:55,975 00:25:57,442 She had no medical training. She had no medical training.
644 00:25:57,509 00:25:59,243 - Did she question why you were keeping - Did she question why you were keeping
645 00:25:59,311 00:26:00,678 Mr. Quintana on lextenda, Mr. Quintana on lextenda,
646 00:26:00,746 00:26:03,014 Even though he was getting no medical benefit from it? Even though he was getting no medical benefit from it?
647 00:26:03,081 00:26:05,917 - It was really none of her business. - It was really none of her business.
648 00:26:05,984 00:26:07,585 Or yours, for that matter. Or yours, for that matter.
649 00:26:07,653 00:26:10,521 - What percentage of your terminally ill cancer patients - What percentage of your terminally ill cancer patients
650 00:26:10,589 00:26:11,722 Are on lextenda? Are on lextenda?
651 00:26:11,790 00:26:13,357 - I don't see how that's relevant. - I don't see how that's relevant.
652 00:26:13,425 00:26:15,426 - I'll decide what's relevant. - I'll decide what's relevant.
653 00:26:15,494 00:26:17,061 Or, if you'd rather, I could come back Or, if you'd rather, I could come back
654 00:26:17,128 00:26:19,463 With a subpoena for all of your records. With a subpoena for all of your records.
655 00:26:24,836 00:26:26,470 - Why don't you do that, - Why don't you do that,
656 00:26:26,537 00:26:27,504 Ms. Rubirosa. Ms. Rubirosa.
657 00:26:27,571 00:26:28,571 You get your subpoena. You get your subpoena.
658 00:26:28,639 00:26:32,242 In the meantime, I'll talk to my lawyer. In the meantime, I'll talk to my lawyer.
659 00:26:32,309 00:26:34,844 - You're a golfer. - You're a golfer.
660 00:26:34,912 00:26:36,579 - Some of my friends would disagree with that statement. - Some of my friends would disagree with that statement.
661 00:26:36,647 00:26:39,048 - Woodmoor invitational hawaii. - Woodmoor invitational hawaii.
662 00:26:39,116 00:26:41,884 Dominican republic. Honduras. Dominican republic. Honduras.
663 00:26:41,952 00:26:42,919 Wow. You get around. Wow. You get around.
664 00:26:42,986 00:26:46,922 You and your little golf balls. You and your little golf balls.
665 00:26:48,825 00:26:50,559 - Well, I got a hold of dr. Price's data - Well, I got a hold of dr. Price's data
666 00:26:50,627 00:26:53,862 Through the state's morbidity studies. Through the state's morbidity studies.
667 00:26:53,930 00:26:56,598 He's prescribed lextenda to all his patients He's prescribed lextenda to all his patients
668 00:26:56,666 00:26:58,700 At the end stage of their disease. At the end stage of their disease.
669 00:26:58,768 00:27:00,169 Their bodies were shutting down Their bodies were shutting down
670 00:27:00,236 00:27:01,570 In a process called wasting. In a process called wasting.
671 00:27:01,638 00:27:03,205 - Did lextenda help them? - Did lextenda help them?
672 00:27:03,272 00:27:04,840 - Compared to similar patients - Compared to similar patients
673 00:27:04,907 00:27:06,541 Who weren't taking lextenda, Who weren't taking lextenda,
674 00:27:06,609 00:27:10,445 Price's patients lived an average of 36 days longer. Price's patients lived an average of 36 days longer.
675 00:27:10,513 00:27:13,081 - That's on the low end of woodmoor's marketing materials. - That's on the low end of woodmoor's marketing materials.
676 00:27:13,149 00:27:15,984 - That's 36 days they wouldn't have had otherwise. - That's 36 days they wouldn't have had otherwise.
677 00:27:16,052 00:27:18,286 - A couple of them lived for a few months. - A couple of them lived for a few months.
678 00:27:18,354 00:27:20,121 And one for almost a year. And one for almost a year.
679 00:27:20,189 00:27:24,759 But the vast majority only lived a week or two. But the vast majority only lived a week or two.
680 00:27:24,827 00:27:26,361 - Still. - Still.
681 00:27:26,428 00:27:30,098 - It's living, but barely. - It's living, but barely.
682 00:27:30,165 00:27:32,666 - At a thousand dollars a day. - At a thousand dollars a day.
683 00:27:38,473 00:27:39,573 - Drug company perks are nothing new. - Drug company perks are nothing new.
684 00:27:39,640 00:27:40,740 - Well, this is for a drug - Well, this is for a drug
685 00:27:40,808 00:27:42,575 That has no palliative value. That has no palliative value.
686 00:27:42,643 00:27:45,211 It's what the medical community calls a rescue drug. It's what the medical community calls a rescue drug.
687 00:27:45,279 00:27:47,112 It extends life by a matter of days, It extends life by a matter of days,
688 00:27:47,180 00:27:48,146 But at an exorbitant cost. But at an exorbitant cost.
689 00:27:48,214 00:27:50,148 - Not to mention it targets - Not to mention it targets
690 00:27:50,216 00:27:53,484 A very vulnerable and desperate group of patients. A very vulnerable and desperate group of patients.
691 00:27:53,552 00:27:58,256 - Still, unless the company's paying the prescribing doctors - Still, unless the company's paying the prescribing doctors
692 00:27:58,325 00:28:00,726 To misrepresent the drug's effectiveness... To misrepresent the drug's effectiveness...
693 00:28:00,794 00:28:03,731 - Maybe brenda sawyer found out that they are. - Maybe brenda sawyer found out that they are.
694 00:28:03,799 00:28:04,732 - She was in the warehouse - She was in the warehouse
695 00:28:04,800 00:28:06,100 Digging through lextenda sales data Digging through lextenda sales data
696 00:28:06,168 00:28:07,601 Along with zack marshall. Along with zack marshall.
697 00:28:07,669 00:28:09,937 - Maybe she confided in him. - Maybe she confided in him.
698 00:28:10,005 00:28:11,438 - She probably thought she could trust him. - She probably thought she could trust him.
699 00:28:11,506 00:28:13,407 He went back afterwards by himself. He went back afterwards by himself.
700 00:28:13,475 00:28:16,143 - And what if he didn't share brenda's outrage - And what if he didn't share brenda's outrage
701 00:28:16,211 00:28:17,144 At what she found out? At what she found out?
702 00:28:17,212 00:28:18,245 He's a sales manager. He's a sales manager.
703 00:28:18,313 00:28:19,480 Brenda blows the whistle Brenda blows the whistle
704 00:28:19,548 00:28:21,415 And lextenda's sales tank, And lextenda's sales tank,
705 00:28:21,483 00:28:24,184 Then so might his career and his company. Then so might his career and his company.
706 00:28:24,252 00:28:25,919 - So he silenced brenda? - So he silenced brenda?
707 00:28:25,987 00:28:29,256 He might be a company man, but loyalty only goes so far. He might be a company man, but loyalty only goes so far.
708 00:28:29,323 00:28:32,358 - Do you have any idea how much woodmoor grosses annually - Do you have any idea how much woodmoor grosses annually
709 00:28:32,426 00:28:33,459 On lextenda? On lextenda?
710 00:28:38,130 00:28:43,133 - Hmm. That would buy a lot of loyalty. - Hmm. That would buy a lot of loyalty.
711 00:28:45,169 00:28:46,970 - What happened to mr. Cooper? - What happened to mr. Cooper?
712 00:28:47,037 00:28:48,671 Trade him in for someone who knows where to stand? Trade him in for someone who knows where to stand?
713 00:28:48,738 00:28:51,473 - Courtesy of woodmoor pharma, we presume. - Courtesy of woodmoor pharma, we presume.
714 00:28:51,541 00:28:53,174 - Not your concern. - Not your concern.
715 00:28:53,242 00:28:55,009 What brings you to scenic rikers island? What brings you to scenic rikers island?
716 00:28:55,077 00:28:58,646 - Your client's facing seven life sentences, mr. Hoyt. - Your client's facing seven life sentences, mr. Hoyt.
717 00:28:58,713 00:29:02,415 - I'm new here, but your case feels very circumstantial to me. - I'm new here, but your case feels very circumstantial to me.
718 00:29:02,483 00:29:03,650 Foil packaging? Foil packaging?
719 00:29:03,717 00:29:05,651 - Juries tend to lower the bar quite a bit - Juries tend to lower the bar quite a bit
720 00:29:05,719 00:29:07,486 When dead children are involved. When dead children are involved.
721 00:29:07,554 00:29:09,087 - Now we know why he did it. - Now we know why he did it.
722 00:29:09,155 00:29:10,388 - Oh, it wasn't a lovers' spat. - Oh, it wasn't a lovers' spat.
723 00:29:10,456 00:29:12,824 Please, share. Please, share.
724 00:29:12,892 00:29:15,560 - Brenda sawyer was about to blow the whistle on lextenda. - Brenda sawyer was about to blow the whistle on lextenda.
725 00:29:15,628 00:29:17,262 - Lextenda? - Lextenda?
726 00:29:17,330 00:29:18,564 - You remember, mr. Marshall. - You remember, mr. Marshall.
727 00:29:18,632 00:29:21,001 The cancer drug brenda was asking about The cancer drug brenda was asking about
728 00:29:21,069 00:29:22,837 When she was with you When she was with you
729 00:29:22,905 00:29:24,373 At woodmoor's distribution facility. At woodmoor's distribution facility.
730 00:29:24,440 00:29:26,578 - Your client can fill you in on the specifics. - Your client can fill you in on the specifics.
731 00:29:26,645 00:29:29,048 - Other words, you can't put either the alcohol - Other words, you can't put either the alcohol
732 00:29:29,116 00:29:32,487 Or the propofol in his hands, can you? Or the propofol in his hands, can you?
733 00:29:35,358 00:29:38,660 I'll contact you when I get up to speed. I'll contact you when I get up to speed.
734 00:29:38,728 00:29:41,263 Or not. Come on, mr. Marshall. Or not. Come on, mr. Marshall.
735 00:29:41,330 00:29:42,430 First thing we're gonna do First thing we're gonna do
736 00:29:42,498 00:29:43,431 Is make a bail application Is make a bail application
737 00:29:43,499 00:29:45,834 To get you home to your family. To get you home to your family.
738 00:29:54,217 00:29:55,851 - Sounds like woodmoor is trying to do damage control. - Sounds like woodmoor is trying to do damage control.
739 00:29:55,919 00:29:59,087 If they can force us to cut marshall a quick deal, If they can force us to cut marshall a quick deal,
740 00:29:59,155 00:30:01,388 Maybe they can keep lextenda out of it. Maybe they can keep lextenda out of it.
741 00:30:01,456 00:30:03,023 - Or maybe marshall cut his own deal with them. - Or maybe marshall cut his own deal with them.
742 00:30:03,091 00:30:05,258 He'll keep his mouth shut about lextenda He'll keep his mouth shut about lextenda
743 00:30:05,326 00:30:08,227 In return for some high-priced legal representation. In return for some high-priced legal representation.
744 00:30:08,295 00:30:09,795 - And where are we with lextenda? - And where are we with lextenda?
745 00:30:09,863 00:30:12,965 Anything beyond speculation and educated guesswork? Anything beyond speculation and educated guesswork?
746 00:30:13,033 00:30:15,700 - Brenda's research was on her company laptop. - Brenda's research was on her company laptop.
747 00:30:15,768 00:30:17,902 Her assistant told me woodmoor security removed it Her assistant told me woodmoor security removed it
748 00:30:17,970 00:30:20,172 From her office the weekend after she was killed. From her office the weekend after she was killed.
749 00:30:20,240 00:30:22,542 - That laptop holds our motive. - That laptop holds our motive.
750 00:30:22,609 00:30:24,377 - I'm sure if you ask woodmoor nicely, - I'm sure if you ask woodmoor nicely,
751 00:30:24,444 00:30:27,279 They'll hand it right over. They'll hand it right over.
752 00:30:29,381 00:30:31,115 - Woodmoor is moving to quash - Woodmoor is moving to quash
753 00:30:31,182 00:30:32,916 The d.A.'s subpoena for this laptop. The d.A.'s subpoena for this laptop.
754 00:30:32,984 00:30:34,284 There's nothing on the computer There's nothing on the computer
755 00:30:34,351 00:30:36,953 Which relates to this tragic drunk driving case. Which relates to this tragic drunk driving case.
756 00:30:37,021 00:30:40,156 - They can't seriously expect us to take their word for it. - They can't seriously expect us to take their word for it.
757 00:30:40,224 00:30:43,392 - Is mr. Cutter admitting that this is a fishing expedition? - Is mr. Cutter admitting that this is a fishing expedition?
758 00:30:43,460 00:30:44,827 - No, we're looking for documents - No, we're looking for documents
759 00:30:44,894 00:30:46,194 Which relate to the motive Which relate to the motive
760 00:30:46,262 00:30:47,429 For seven murders. For seven murders.
761 00:30:47,496 00:30:49,897 - What documents are those, mr. Cutter? - What documents are those, mr. Cutter?
762 00:30:49,965 00:30:52,299 - Anything concerning a medicine called lextenda. - Anything concerning a medicine called lextenda.
763 00:30:52,367 00:30:55,235 - Lextenda is a closely held patent, judge. - Lextenda is a closely held patent, judge.
764 00:30:55,303 00:30:57,304 Any information on a woodmoor computer Any information on a woodmoor computer
765 00:30:57,371 00:30:59,305 About woodmoor products is proprietary. About woodmoor products is proprietary.
766 00:30:59,373 00:31:03,075 - The people aren't interested in stealing trade secrets. - The people aren't interested in stealing trade secrets.
767 00:31:03,142 00:31:05,577 I'll give the court my personal guarantee I'll give the court my personal guarantee
768 00:31:05,645 00:31:08,613 That anything unrelated to lextenda's sales, That anything unrelated to lextenda's sales,
769 00:31:08,681 00:31:12,550 Marketing, or distribution will remain confidential Marketing, or distribution will remain confidential
770 00:31:12,617 00:31:14,018 And secure. And secure.
771 00:31:14,085 00:31:15,352 - He's still fishing, your honor. - He's still fishing, your honor.
772 00:31:15,419 00:31:17,987 - I agree. Mr. Cutter, your subpoena is quashed. - I agree. Mr. Cutter, your subpoena is quashed.
773 00:31:18,055 00:31:19,655 [gavel knocks] [gavel knocks]
774 00:31:23,831 00:31:25,266 - Well, asking nicely didn't work. - Well, asking nicely didn't work.
775 00:31:25,334 00:31:26,601 What's plan b? What's plan b?
776 00:31:26,669 00:31:30,404 - I'll ask. - I'll ask.
777 00:31:32,174 00:31:34,408 - I haven't seen you since you came knocking - I haven't seen you since you came knocking
778 00:31:34,476 00:31:35,910 With your hand out, jack. With your hand out, jack.
779 00:31:35,977 00:31:37,344 Belated congratulations. Belated congratulations.
780 00:31:37,412 00:31:41,281 - Thanks again for the campaign contribution, austin. - Thanks again for the campaign contribution, austin.
781 00:31:41,349 00:31:43,550 - Don't thank me. Thank my board of directors. - Don't thank me. Thank my board of directors.
782 00:31:43,618 00:31:45,352 I assume this isn't a social call. I assume this isn't a social call.
783 00:31:45,420 00:31:48,288 I heard my guys beat up your guys today. I heard my guys beat up your guys today.
784 00:31:48,356 00:31:51,624 - Zack marshall and brenda sawyer were your employees. - Zack marshall and brenda sawyer were your employees.
785 00:31:51,692 00:31:53,226 - Terrible tragedy. - Terrible tragedy.
786 00:31:53,293 00:31:55,695 - And terrible for woodmoor. - And terrible for woodmoor.
787 00:31:55,762 00:31:57,730 - It's not the kind of publicity - It's not the kind of publicity
788 00:31:57,797 00:31:59,531 We aspire to. We aspire to.
789 00:31:59,599 00:32:01,333 - Especially if it got out those seven deaths - Especially if it got out those seven deaths
790 00:32:01,401 00:32:03,569 Were really about lextenda. Were really about lextenda.
791 00:32:03,636 00:32:05,203 - Excuse me? - Excuse me?
792 00:32:05,271 00:32:06,505 - Brenda sawyer was gathering data - Brenda sawyer was gathering data
793 00:32:06,572 00:32:09,173 About your miracle drug until she was killed About your miracle drug until she was killed
794 00:32:09,241 00:32:11,309 By a rogue employee. By a rogue employee.
795 00:32:11,377 00:32:14,245 But why am I telling you something you already know? But why am I telling you something you already know?
796 00:32:14,313 00:32:16,213 - I don't know what marshall did - I don't know what marshall did
797 00:32:16,281 00:32:18,015 Or didn't do, but I do know Or didn't do, but I do know
798 00:32:18,083 00:32:20,417 Lextenda is an effective product. Lextenda is an effective product.
799 00:32:20,485 00:32:22,119 - Brenda sawyer thought otherwise. - Brenda sawyer thought otherwise.
800 00:32:22,186 00:32:25,956 That you were selling false hope to desperate people That you were selling false hope to desperate people
801 00:32:26,023 00:32:28,258 At a thousand bucks a day. At a thousand bucks a day.
802 00:32:28,326 00:32:30,227 Doing it by co-opting doctors Doing it by co-opting doctors
803 00:32:30,294 00:32:32,162 With timeshares and tropical vacations. With timeshares and tropical vacations.
804 00:32:32,229 00:32:34,397 That it's a rigged game. That it's a rigged game.
805 00:32:34,464 00:32:36,932 - Don't get self-righteous on me, jack. - Don't get self-righteous on me, jack.
806 00:32:37,000 00:32:38,734 If corporations didn't make profits, If corporations didn't make profits,
807 00:32:38,802 00:32:40,669 Where would politicians like you be? Where would politicians like you be?
808 00:32:40,737 00:32:45,507 - You're right, and it stinks. - You're right, and it stinks.
809 00:32:45,574 00:32:47,775 There are too many office holders There are too many office holders
810 00:32:47,843 00:32:50,010 In the health industry's pockets. In the health industry's pockets.
811 00:32:50,078 00:32:52,012 It's one of the reasons we can't pass It's one of the reasons we can't pass
812 00:32:52,079 00:32:54,380 A decent health care bill in this country. A decent health care bill in this country.
813 00:32:54,448 00:32:56,149 And, oh, by the way... And, oh, by the way...
814 00:33:00,090 00:33:01,457 It's a certified check It's a certified check
815 00:33:01,525 00:33:05,227 Reimbursing your campaign contribution. Reimbursing your campaign contribution.
816 00:33:05,295 00:33:08,129 - What do you want me to do? - What do you want me to do?
817 00:33:08,197 00:33:10,798 - Grow a conscience. - Grow a conscience.
818 00:33:10,866 00:33:14,402 Unless you want to be personally named Unless you want to be personally named
819 00:33:14,469 00:33:16,904 As an accomplice, austin, As an accomplice, austin,
820 00:33:16,971 00:33:22,309 You can order your guys to hand over that computer. You can order your guys to hand over that computer.
821 00:33:26,814 00:33:28,215 - All the files have been deleted. - All the files have been deleted.
822 00:33:28,282 00:33:30,784 And I mean all of them. - We expected that. And I mean all of them. - We expected that.
823 00:33:30,851 00:33:32,652 - All I could recover were some basic applications - All I could recover were some basic applications
824 00:33:32,719 00:33:34,053 Built into the operating system. Built into the operating system.
825 00:33:34,121 00:33:37,323 Clock, address book, calendar. - Can I take a look? Clock, address book, calendar. - Can I take a look?
826 00:33:37,391 00:33:38,824 Thanks. Thanks.
827 00:33:40,994 00:33:42,894 - The police went back through marshall's home - The police went back through marshall's home
828 00:33:42,962 00:33:45,163 And computer. Nothing on lextenda. And computer. Nothing on lextenda.
829 00:33:45,231 00:33:46,865 - Brenda's computer was wiped clean. - Brenda's computer was wiped clean.
830 00:33:46,933 00:33:50,568 Everything's gone, except her address book and calendar. Everything's gone, except her address book and calendar.
831 00:33:50,636 00:33:52,237 But look at this. But look at this.
832 00:33:52,304 00:33:53,371 [beep] [beep]
833 00:33:53,439 00:33:56,174 Her appointments the week after she died. Her appointments the week after she died.
834 00:33:56,241 00:33:58,443 This one here. - "j. Wigand. This one here. - "j. Wigand.
835 00:33:58,510 00:34:00,278 Tuesday, 10:00 a.M." Tuesday, 10:00 a.M."
836 00:34:00,345 00:34:04,215 - And there is no j. Wigand in her address book. - And there is no j. Wigand in her address book.
837 00:34:04,283 00:34:05,282 - I don't remember seeing that name - I don't remember seeing that name
838 00:34:05,350 00:34:06,350 In her phone records. In her phone records.
839 00:34:06,418 00:34:08,585 - Jeffrey wigand. - Jeffrey wigand.
840 00:34:08,653 00:34:10,554 The king of the whistleblowers. The king of the whistleblowers.
841 00:34:10,622 00:34:12,089 He blew the whistle on big tobacco. He blew the whistle on big tobacco.
842 00:34:12,157 00:34:14,691 - It's hard to believe she'd be meeting with him. - It's hard to believe she'd be meeting with him.
843 00:34:14,759 00:34:19,496 - Exactly. So maybe this was her inside joke. - Exactly. So maybe this was her inside joke.
844 00:34:19,564 00:34:23,466 A code name for a meeting with a regulatory agency. A code name for a meeting with a regulatory agency.
845 00:34:23,534 00:34:25,535 - An agency that could do something about lextenda. - An agency that could do something about lextenda.
846 00:34:25,603 00:34:28,037 The fda. The fda.
847 00:34:28,105 00:34:31,574 - She said she worked for woodmoor, - She said she worked for woodmoor,
848 00:34:31,642 00:34:32,608 But she wouldn't tell me her name. But she wouldn't tell me her name.
849 00:34:32,676 00:34:34,043 We set up the Tuesday meeting. We set up the Tuesday meeting.
850 00:34:34,111 00:34:35,244 She never showed. She never showed.
851 00:34:35,312 00:34:37,313 - She say why she insisted on anonymity? - She say why she insisted on anonymity?
852 00:34:37,381 00:34:39,115 - Most people who contact us don't give us - Most people who contact us don't give us
853 00:34:39,183 00:34:40,216 Their name at first. Their name at first.
854 00:34:40,284 00:34:41,484 They don't want to risk their jobs They don't want to risk their jobs
855 00:34:41,552 00:34:43,552 If we're not gonna act on their information. If we're not gonna act on their information.
856 00:34:43,620 00:34:45,621 This lady wouldn't even tell me what drug she was calling about. This lady wouldn't even tell me what drug she was calling about.
857 00:34:45,689 00:34:47,723 - She didn't mention lextenda? - She didn't mention lextenda?
858 00:34:47,791 00:34:49,358 - Is that what it was? - Is that what it was?
859 00:34:49,426 00:34:52,461 I got a call about lextenda later that week from a doctor. I got a call about lextenda later that week from a doctor.
860 00:34:52,529 00:34:54,697 He was very eager to move forward. He was very eager to move forward.
861 00:34:54,764 00:34:56,832 I even sent him an informational packet. I even sent him an informational packet.
862 00:34:56,900 00:34:58,834 - You sent it to him? - You sent it to him?
863 00:34:58,902 00:35:00,469 This doctor left you his name? This doctor left you his name?
864 00:35:00,537 00:35:01,704 - Yeah, he did. - Yeah, he did.
865 00:35:01,771 00:35:03,839 But under the whistleblower protection laws, But under the whistleblower protection laws,
866 00:35:03,907 00:35:06,041 I can't divulge his identity without a court order. I can't divulge his identity without a court order.
867 00:35:06,109 00:35:07,543 - Well, we'll take care of that. - Well, we'll take care of that.
868 00:35:07,611 00:35:10,279 Any other inquiries about lextenda? Any other inquiries about lextenda?
869 00:35:10,347 00:35:11,814 - Not that I'm aware of. - Not that I'm aware of.
870 00:35:11,881 00:35:13,549 But I wouldn't be surprised to see an uptick But I wouldn't be surprised to see an uptick
871 00:35:13,616 00:35:15,651 In complaints on these end-term cancer meds. In complaints on these end-term cancer meds.
872 00:35:15,718 00:35:17,653 - Why? Because they're not effective? - Why? Because they're not effective?
873 00:35:17,720 00:35:18,954 - Well, big money at stake. - Well, big money at stake.
874 00:35:19,021 00:35:21,222 Not just for corporations, but for whistleblowers. Not just for corporations, but for whistleblowers.
875 00:35:21,290 00:35:22,891 They get a piece of any penalty They get a piece of any penalty
876 00:35:22,958 00:35:24,159 Imposed on the company. Imposed on the company.
877 00:35:24,226 00:35:25,727 Ever since a whistleblower got $50 million Ever since a whistleblower got $50 million
878 00:35:25,795 00:35:26,728 On that pfizer settlement, On that pfizer settlement,
879 00:35:26,796 00:35:28,363 Drug company employees Drug company employees
880 00:35:28,431 00:35:31,733 Have been coming out of the woodwork. Have been coming out of the woodwork.
881 00:35:31,800 00:35:34,169 - The $2 billion penalty against pfizer - The $2 billion penalty against pfizer
882 00:35:34,236 00:35:35,270 Was for illegal marketing, Was for illegal marketing,
883 00:35:35,337 00:35:38,206 Which is exactly what brenda suspected Which is exactly what brenda suspected
884 00:35:38,274 00:35:39,774 Woodmoor of doing with lextenda. Woodmoor of doing with lextenda.
885 00:35:39,842 00:35:43,011 - Zack marshall saved his company a tidy sum. - Zack marshall saved his company a tidy sum.
886 00:35:43,078 00:35:44,212 They should be very proud of him. They should be very proud of him.
887 00:35:44,280 00:35:45,413 - And they're doing everything they can - And they're doing everything they can
888 00:35:45,481 00:35:47,181 To show their appreciation. To show their appreciation.
889 00:35:47,249 00:35:49,550 The erased computer files, his bail money, The erased computer files, his bail money,
890 00:35:49,618 00:35:51,018 The fancy lawyer. [knock at door] The fancy lawyer. [knock at door]
891 00:35:52,588 00:35:54,722 - The fda just turned over the name and address - The fda just turned over the name and address
892 00:35:54,790 00:35:56,957 Of the doctor who called them about lextenda. Of the doctor who called them about lextenda.
893 00:35:57,025 00:35:59,226 It's a dr. Sherin, up in dobbs ferry. It's a dr. Sherin, up in dobbs ferry.
894 00:35:59,294 00:36:00,828 - Well, if he gives us information - Well, if he gives us information
895 00:36:00,895 00:36:02,930 About woodmoor's illegal marketing, About woodmoor's illegal marketing,
896 00:36:02,997 00:36:05,599 Then maybe you can use it to convince Then maybe you can use it to convince
897 00:36:05,667 00:36:08,769 Your friends at woodmoor to cut marshall loose. Your friends at woodmoor to cut marshall loose.
898 00:36:08,836 00:36:11,038 - My friends, ha. - My friends, ha.
899 00:36:17,145 00:36:18,979 - Dr. Sherin rents a box here. - Dr. Sherin rents a box here.
900 00:36:19,047 00:36:20,414 Box 819. Box 819.
901 00:36:20,481 00:36:22,349 But he hasn't come in for a while. But he hasn't come in for a while.
902 00:36:22,416 00:36:24,284 - Do you have a home address on him? - Do you have a home address on him?
903 00:36:24,351 00:36:25,485 - All I know is he's from florida. - All I know is he's from florida.
904 00:36:25,553 00:36:26,653 He's only been in here twice, He's only been in here twice,
905 00:36:26,721 00:36:27,987 Including when he rented the box. Including when he rented the box.
906 00:36:28,055 00:36:29,722 - You mind if we have a look? - You mind if we have a look?
907 00:36:29,790 00:36:32,425 - I'm not supposed to do that. - I'm not supposed to do that.
908 00:36:32,493 00:36:35,294 I mean, if it was terrorism, maybe. I mean, if it was terrorism, maybe.
909 00:36:35,362 00:36:36,762 - Do you remember all those kids - Do you remember all those kids
910 00:36:36,830 00:36:39,231 That died in that crash on the westside highway? That died in that crash on the westside highway?
911 00:36:39,299 00:36:40,399 This is that. This is that.
912 00:36:40,467 00:36:43,903 - Oh. - Oh.
913 00:36:43,971 00:36:45,338 - When did dr. Sherin - When did dr. Sherin
914 00:36:45,406 00:36:46,472 Rent the box? Rent the box?
915 00:36:46,540 00:36:48,474 - Uh, six weeks ago. - Uh, six weeks ago.
916 00:36:48,542 00:36:50,543 He said he'd be coming through here every few weeks He said he'd be coming through here every few weeks
917 00:36:50,611 00:36:56,247 To see a patient. To see a patient.
918 00:36:56,315 00:36:57,782 Here you go. Here you go.
919 00:36:57,850 00:37:01,084 Return address says it's from the fda. Return address says it's from the fda.
920 00:37:01,152 00:37:02,986 - The last time he came in, - The last time he came in,
921 00:37:03,054 00:37:04,620 What was it for? What was it for?
922 00:37:04,688 00:37:05,988 - He had a package sent by registered mail. - He had a package sent by registered mail.
923 00:37:06,056 00:37:07,156 I had to get his d.E.A. Number I had to get his d.E.A. Number
924 00:37:07,224 00:37:08,157 Before I could release the package. Before I could release the package.
925 00:37:08,224 00:37:10,926 - His d.E.A. Number? - His d.E.A. Number?
926 00:37:10,993 00:37:12,093 Was it medication? Was it medication?
927 00:37:12,161 00:37:14,128 - I think so. Let me check. - I think so. Let me check.
928 00:37:17,298 00:37:18,565 Here it is. Here it is.
929 00:37:18,633 00:37:20,700 It was from woodmoor pharma. It was from woodmoor pharma.
930 00:37:23,970 00:37:27,272 - Is this dr. Sherin? - Is this dr. Sherin?
931 00:37:27,340 00:37:28,673 - That's right. - That's right.
932 00:37:28,741 00:37:31,643 I thought you said you didn't know him. I thought you said you didn't know him.
933 00:37:31,710 00:37:34,278 - We tracked the package back to woodmoor. - We tracked the package back to woodmoor.
934 00:37:34,346 00:37:36,547 One vial of propofol. One vial of propofol.
935 00:37:36,614 00:37:39,950 Sent to dr. Sherin, I.E., you, mr. Marshall. Sent to dr. Sherin, I.E., you, mr. Marshall.
936 00:37:40,017 00:37:42,218 - And we're ready for trial, mr. Hoyt. - And we're ready for trial, mr. Hoyt.
937 00:37:42,286 00:37:43,819 - Another piece of circumstantial evidence. - Another piece of circumstantial evidence.
938 00:37:43,887 00:37:44,920 Not the end of the world. Not the end of the world.
939 00:37:44,988 00:37:46,955 - Are you kidding me? - Are you kidding me?
940 00:37:47,023 00:37:48,590 I didn't mean for any of this to happen. I didn't mean for any of this to happen.
941 00:37:48,658 00:37:50,324 I swear. I tried to stop it. I swear. I tried to stop it.
942 00:37:50,392 00:37:52,627 - What did you mean to happen? - What did you mean to happen?
943 00:37:52,695 00:37:53,961 - Zack, I'm advising you to shut up. - Zack, I'm advising you to shut up.
944 00:37:54,029 00:37:56,864 - No, I don't want your advice anymore. - No, I don't want your advice anymore.
945 00:37:56,932 00:37:58,899 I just wanted her to get pulled over. I just wanted her to get pulled over.
946 00:37:58,967 00:37:59,966 The police would think she was drunk, The police would think she was drunk,
947 00:38:00,034 00:38:01,568 She'd get a dwi, She'd get a dwi,
948 00:38:01,635 00:38:03,970 She'd get fired and lose her credibility with the fda. She'd get fired and lose her credibility with the fda.
949 00:38:04,037 00:38:05,805 - Her credibility as a whistleblower? - Her credibility as a whistleblower?
950 00:38:05,872 00:38:07,439 - Yes. - Yes.
951 00:38:07,507 00:38:10,542 She was gonna give all the reward money away. She was gonna give all the reward money away.
952 00:38:10,610 00:38:12,010 I couldn't let that happen. I couldn't let that happen.
953 00:38:12,077 00:38:14,879 - You didn't do this to save your company - You didn't do this to save your company
954 00:38:14,947 00:38:16,214 Or your job, did you? Or your job, did you?
955 00:38:16,281 00:38:17,782 - Zack. - Shut up! - Zack. - Shut up!
956 00:38:17,849 00:38:21,284 I didn't care about woodmoor. I didn't care about woodmoor.
957 00:38:21,352 00:38:25,421 Not after brenda showed me what they were doing with lextenda. Not after brenda showed me what they were doing with lextenda.
958 00:38:25,489 00:38:27,624 She had a list of all the doctors in the country She had a list of all the doctors in the country
959 00:38:27,692 00:38:29,159 Who were prescribing it, all the kickbacks Who were prescribing it, all the kickbacks
960 00:38:29,226 00:38:31,895 They were getting from the company. They were getting from the company.
961 00:38:31,962 00:38:33,696 She even found an internal cost analysis She even found an internal cost analysis
962 00:38:33,764 00:38:35,131 Of how much money woodmoor could make Of how much money woodmoor could make
963 00:38:35,199 00:38:37,834 Off of every terminal cancer patient before they died. Off of every terminal cancer patient before they died.
964 00:38:37,901 00:38:39,302 - She came to you why? - She came to you why?
965 00:38:39,369 00:38:40,469 She was looking for help? She was looking for help?
966 00:38:40,537 00:38:42,671 - No, I found out what she was doing. - No, I found out what she was doing.
967 00:38:42,739 00:38:47,443 And I wanted us to go to the fda together. And I wanted us to go to the fda together.
968 00:38:47,511 00:38:51,447 But then she wanted to give all the money away But then she wanted to give all the money away
969 00:38:51,515 00:38:54,416 To hudson university for pediatric cancer research. To hudson university for pediatric cancer research.
970 00:38:54,484 00:38:55,918 All the money. All the money.
971 00:38:55,985 00:38:58,520 Tens of millions of dollars. Tens of millions of dollars.
972 00:38:58,588 00:39:00,389 I mean, she didn't need it. I mean, she didn't need it.
973 00:39:00,456 00:39:01,757 Her husband makes a good living. Her husband makes a good living.
974 00:39:01,824 00:39:05,827 But me... But me...
975 00:39:05,895 00:39:07,062 My wife doesn't work. My wife doesn't work.
976 00:39:07,129 00:39:08,163 I have kids. I have kids.
977 00:39:08,230 00:39:09,331 I don't have a house in the country. I don't have a house in the country.
978 00:39:09,398 00:39:10,532 I don't have savings. I don't have savings.
979 00:39:10,599 00:39:13,301 - So you decided to drug her with propofol - So you decided to drug her with propofol
980 00:39:13,369 00:39:15,537 So that she'd get in a fatal accident. So that she'd get in a fatal accident.
981 00:39:15,604 00:39:19,741 - No, I told you... - No, I told you...
982 00:39:19,809 00:39:21,843 I thought she was gonna get in a little fender-bender I thought she was gonna get in a little fender-bender
983 00:39:21,911 00:39:25,380 In the city. In the city.
984 00:39:25,447 00:39:27,915 Then I called in. Then I called in.
985 00:39:27,983 00:39:30,017 Her assistant told me that she had the kids with her. Her assistant told me that she had the kids with her.
986 00:39:32,921 00:39:37,758 I tried to stop brenda. I tried to stop brenda.
987 00:39:37,826 00:39:40,427 I called her. I told her to come back to the office. I called her. I told her to come back to the office.
988 00:39:40,495 00:39:43,063 To pull over. To pull over.
989 00:39:43,131 00:39:44,398 But she couldn't hear me. But she couldn't hear me.
990 00:39:44,466 00:39:47,835 And I called 911. I tried to tell them. And I called 911. I tried to tell them.
991 00:39:47,902 00:39:51,705 Oh, my god. What did I do? Oh, my god. What did I do?
992 00:39:51,773 00:39:53,474 What did I do? What did I do?
993 00:39:57,612 00:39:58,746 - If I'm not mistaken, - If I'm not mistaken,
994 00:39:58,813 00:40:00,614 My client has a viable renunciation defense. My client has a viable renunciation defense.
995 00:40:00,682 00:40:04,284 - [snickers] now you are kidding. - [snickers] now you are kidding.
996 00:40:04,352 00:40:07,488 I'll take his plea to seven counts I'll take his plea to seven counts
997 00:40:07,555 00:40:09,823 Of depraved indifference murder. Of depraved indifference murder.
998 00:40:09,891 00:40:12,526 20 years to life, subject to approval 20 years to life, subject to approval
999 00:40:12,593 00:40:17,564 By the victims' families. By the victims' families.
1000 00:40:17,632 00:40:18,632 - Okay. - Okay.
1001 00:40:22,370 00:40:25,238 Okay. Okay.
1002 00:40:25,306 00:40:26,840 - I think we're done here. - I think we're done here.
1003 00:40:26,907 00:40:29,309 - Not quite. - Not quite.
1004 00:40:29,377 00:40:31,845 The evidence you were turning over to the fda, where is it? The evidence you were turning over to the fda, where is it?
1005 00:40:31,912 00:40:33,346 - You don't need that. It's immaterial. - You don't need that. It's immaterial.
1006 00:40:33,414 00:40:36,482 - He gives it to us, or there's no deal. - He gives it to us, or there's no deal.
1007 00:40:36,550 00:40:39,185 - It's on a flash drive - It's on a flash drive
1008 00:40:39,253 00:40:42,088 In a knapsack in my son's closet. In a knapsack in my son's closet.
1009 00:40:42,156 00:40:45,658 - I'll call lupo and bernard. - I'll call lupo and bernard.
1010 00:40:51,898 00:40:53,432 - 20 years. - 20 years.
1011 00:40:53,500 00:40:55,435 - It's your call, mr. Sawyer. - It's your call, mr. Sawyer.
1012 00:40:55,503 00:40:58,872 - What about brenda's sister and her husband - What about brenda's sister and her husband
1013 00:40:58,939 00:41:00,173 And the people in the other car, And the people in the other car,
1014 00:41:00,241 00:41:01,441 Their family, what did they say? Their family, what did they say?
1015 00:41:01,509 00:41:03,410 - We came to you first. - We came to you first.
1016 00:41:10,652 00:41:12,519 - My mother died last week. - My mother died last week.
1017 00:41:12,587 00:41:15,322 - We're very sorry. - We're very sorry.
1018 00:41:15,390 00:41:20,394 - It was her time. - It was her time.
1019 00:41:20,462 00:41:23,264 My son's doing well. My son's doing well.
1020 00:41:23,331 00:41:28,069 It's been hard, but we just go on. It's been hard, but we just go on.
1021 00:41:30,438 00:41:35,443 Brenda was never a mean-minded person. Brenda was never a mean-minded person.
1022 00:41:35,510 00:41:37,645 I guess 20 years is fair. I guess 20 years is fair.
1023 00:41:40,014 00:41:42,082 - All right. - All right.
1024 00:41:42,150 00:41:44,985 - And the reward money, when it comes, - And the reward money, when it comes,
1025 00:41:45,052 00:41:46,720 I want some to go to brenda's sister I want some to go to brenda's sister
1026 00:41:46,787 00:41:47,820 And the other family, And the other family,
1027 00:41:47,888 00:41:49,055 But the rest of it, I don't want it. But the rest of it, I don't want it.
1028 00:41:49,123 00:41:50,523 It should go where brenda wanted. It should go where brenda wanted.
1029 00:41:50,591 00:41:52,324 - Cancer research. - Cancer research.
1030 00:41:52,392 00:41:55,928 - Yes. - Yes.
1031 00:42:01,601 00:42:02,969 I guess that's it then. I guess that's it then.
1032 00:42:05,873 00:42:07,874 Thank you. Thank you.
1033 00:42:16,686 00:42:19,688 - 20 years it is. - 20 years it is.