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1 00:00:06,571 00:00:09,574 [footsteps echoing] [footsteps echoing]
2 00:00:23,980 00:00:27,331 [door clanging] [door clanging]
3 00:00:27,375 00:00:30,378 [footsteps echoing] [footsteps echoing]
4 00:00:39,865 00:00:42,651 [ball thudding] [ball thudding]
5 00:00:51,921 00:00:53,966 [laughing] [laughing]
6 00:00:56,143 00:00:58,710 - [Kenny] Come on, you guys! - [Kenny] Come on, you guys!
7 00:00:58,754 00:01:00,843 You know I can't bend over. You know I can't bend over.
8 00:01:03,802 00:01:05,891 Basketball was just about my whole life Basketball was just about my whole life
9 00:01:05,935 00:01:07,067 when I was growin' up. when I was growin' up.
10 00:01:08,111 00:01:09,721 I wanted people to like me, I wanted people to like me,
11 00:01:09,765 00:01:11,680 and like any kid when they're young, and like any kid when they're young,
12 00:01:11,723 00:01:13,943 and get a lot of attention, I suppose. and get a lot of attention, I suppose.
13 00:01:16,815 00:01:19,079 I've been asked over and over again, I've been asked over and over again,
14 00:01:19,122 00:01:20,993 "Did you start the jump shot?" "Did you start the jump shot?"
15 00:01:22,299 00:01:24,127 I've had sports writers get pretty upset with me I've had sports writers get pretty upset with me
16 00:01:24,171 00:01:26,086 'cause that's what they want me to say. 'cause that's what they want me to say.
17 00:01:27,739 00:01:29,828 What else could they talk about? What else could they talk about?
18 00:01:29,872 00:01:32,483 There's nobody today hardlyalive that saw me play. There's nobody today hardlyalive that saw me play.
19 00:01:35,225 00:01:37,880 I've experienced much in my lifetime. I've experienced much in my lifetime.
20 00:01:38,750 00:01:39,751 I've had to let go of things I've had to let go of things
21 00:01:39,795 00:01:41,797 that were really important to me. that were really important to me.
22 00:01:43,581 00:01:46,845 And I like I say, it'snice to know who you are, And I like I say, it'snice to know who you are,
23 00:01:46,889 00:01:49,283 and where you're goin'when you leave this world. and where you're goin'when you leave this world.
24 00:01:49,326 00:01:53,025 [instrumental music playing] [instrumental music playing]
25 00:01:55,767 00:01:57,639 - [Male] The shot is the jump shot. - [Male] The shot is the jump shot.
26 00:01:57,682 00:01:58,857 - [Sports Announcer] It's up to Jenkins - [Sports Announcer] It's up to Jenkins
27 00:01:58,901 00:01:59,815 for the championship! for the championship!
28 00:01:59,858 00:02:01,643 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
29 00:02:01,686 00:02:03,340 Look at those little champions! Look at those little champions!
30 00:02:03,384 00:02:05,864 - [Male] The jump shot'sin every part of the game. - [Male] The jump shot'sin every part of the game.
31 00:02:05,908 00:02:06,778 - [Sports Announcer] Puts it up. - [Sports Announcer] Puts it up.
32 00:02:06,822 00:02:09,825 Yes! [crowd cheering] Yes! [crowd cheering]
33 00:02:09,868 00:02:12,088 - Nothing has ever changed a sport - Nothing has ever changed a sport
34 00:02:12,132 00:02:14,177 like the jump shot changed basketball. like the jump shot changed basketball.
35 00:02:14,221 00:02:16,136 - [Sports Announcer] Smart takes the shot! - [Sports Announcer] Smart takes the shot!
36 00:02:16,179 00:02:18,312 - [Male] When you'retalking about the jump shot, - [Male] When you'retalking about the jump shot,
37 00:02:18,355 00:02:20,923 you're talking about the very fabric of the game. you're talking about the very fabric of the game.
38 00:02:20,966 00:02:21,837 - [Male] You don't realizethat there was a time - [Male] You don't realizethat there was a time
39 00:02:21,880 00:02:23,839 that there was no jump shot. that there was no jump shot.
40 00:02:23,882 00:02:26,972 - [Male] When it was sideshot game, you needed space. - [Male] When it was sideshot game, you needed space.
41 00:02:27,016 00:02:28,713 - You had to be wide open, - You had to be wide open,
42 00:02:28,757 00:02:30,672 or you couldn't get your shot off. or you couldn't get your shot off.
43 00:02:30,715 00:02:31,760 - It's almost like they were playing - It's almost like they were playing
44 00:02:31,803 00:02:33,631 in slow motion defensively. in slow motion defensively.
45 00:02:33,675 00:02:36,330 How you allowed that guyto even get that shot off. How you allowed that guyto even get that shot off.
46 00:02:36,373 00:02:38,723 - Basketball is a game of innovation. - Basketball is a game of innovation.
47 00:02:38,767 00:02:40,508 Before you know it, you've made up something Before you know it, you've made up something
48 00:02:40,551 00:02:42,162 that nobody has seen before. that nobody has seen before.
49 00:02:42,205 00:02:44,729 - In Kenny Sailors' case, like Edison, - In Kenny Sailors' case, like Edison,
50 00:02:44,773 00:02:48,037 who would have known what thislittle light bulb could do? who would have known what thislittle light bulb could do?
51 00:02:48,080 00:02:49,125 - [Male] There's no question, - [Male] There's no question,
52 00:02:49,169 00:02:50,474 it was-- - The uniqueness it was-- - The uniqueness
53 00:02:50,518 00:02:51,606 was they jumped. - We're talkin' was they jumped. - We're talkin'
54 00:02:51,649 00:02:53,303 probably 65 years later, probably 65 years later,
55 00:02:53,347 00:02:55,044 that's the shot people are still taking. that's the shot people are still taking.
56 00:02:55,087 00:02:57,829 - This shot lasted throughgenerations and generations, - This shot lasted throughgenerations and generations,
57 00:02:57,873 00:02:59,918 and has made it to theWarriors, to Steph Curry, and has made it to theWarriors, to Steph Curry,
58 00:02:59,962 00:03:01,137 the greatest shooter you'll ever play. the greatest shooter you'll ever play.
59 00:03:01,181 00:03:02,225 - [Sports Announcer] Curry switched defense - [Sports Announcer] Curry switched defense
60 00:03:02,269 00:03:03,487 behind the back! behind the back!
61 00:03:03,531 00:03:04,880 Fires a three! - If I can't play Fires a three! - If I can't play
62 00:03:04,923 00:03:06,795 above the rim, so the jumpshot is my only weapon. above the rim, so the jumpshot is my only weapon.
63 00:03:06,838 00:03:08,100 [crowd cheering] - Oh, he puts it in! [crowd cheering] - Oh, he puts it in!
64 00:03:08,144 00:03:09,754 - [Male] You can go anywhere in the world, - [Male] You can go anywhere in the world,
65 00:03:09,798 00:03:10,929 and they're shooting Kenny's shot. and they're shooting Kenny's shot.
66 00:03:10,973 00:03:12,714 - Where is-- - Kenny Sailors. - Where is-- - Kenny Sailors.
67 00:03:12,757 00:03:14,716 - Kenny--- Sailors has few equals. - Kenny--- Sailors has few equals.
68 00:03:14,759 00:03:15,804 - [Male] He's an American original. - [Male] He's an American original.
69 00:03:15,847 00:03:17,458 - [Male] People just forgot who he was. - [Male] People just forgot who he was.
70 00:03:17,501 00:03:19,895 - He disappeared for so long.- Sometimes history gets lost, - He disappeared for so long.- Sometimes history gets lost,
71 00:03:21,244 00:03:23,420 and that's what happenedwith Kenny Sailors' story. and that's what happenedwith Kenny Sailors' story.
72 00:03:23,464 00:03:26,336 History lost his story. History lost his story.
73 00:03:28,947 00:03:31,820 [loud booming] [loud booming]
74 00:03:31,863 00:03:34,257 - Yeah, we're talkin'about the jump shot, right? - Yeah, we're talkin'about the jump shot, right?
75 00:03:34,301 00:03:35,519 - Yeah-- - Or the guy - Yeah-- - Or the guy
76 00:03:35,563 00:03:37,042 who found the jump shot, or somethin'? who found the jump shot, or somethin'?
77 00:03:37,086 00:03:38,348 - [Interviewer] Do you know who that guy is? - [Interviewer] Do you know who that guy is?
78 00:03:38,392 00:03:39,219 - No. - No.
79 00:03:40,220 00:03:42,004 - I don't know, 'cause, I mean. - I don't know, 'cause, I mean.
80 00:03:42,047 00:03:43,919 [quirky music playing] - What do you mean [quirky music playing] - What do you mean
81 00:03:43,962 00:03:45,442 invented the jump shot? invented the jump shot?
82 00:03:45,486 00:03:47,792 No one invented the jump shot. No one invented the jump shot.
83 00:03:47,836 00:03:49,794 - Wait, there wasn't a jump shot at one point? - Wait, there wasn't a jump shot at one point?
84 00:03:49,838 00:03:51,143 - First of all, there's skepticism. - First of all, there's skepticism.
85 00:03:51,187 00:03:52,623 [mumbling] [mumbling]
86 00:03:52,667 00:03:53,929 Nah, I did. Nah, I did.
87 00:03:53,972 00:03:55,539 - How do you know he was the first jump shooter? - How do you know he was the first jump shooter?
88 00:03:55,583 00:03:56,932 I mean, that's everybody'sfirst question. I mean, that's everybody'sfirst question.
89 00:03:56,975 00:03:58,803 How you gonna call thisguy the first jump shooter? How you gonna call thisguy the first jump shooter?
90 00:03:58,847 00:04:01,850 - Let me see how dumb or how smart you are. - Let me see how dumb or how smart you are.
91 00:04:01,893 00:04:04,635 - I'd never really put a lot of thought into - I'd never really put a lot of thought into
92 00:04:04,679 00:04:06,811 who was the first guy that ever shot one. who was the first guy that ever shot one.
93 00:04:06,855 00:04:08,770 - Okay, here's the deal. - Okay, here's the deal.
94 00:04:08,813 00:04:12,252 Who is the guy that invented the jump shot? Who is the guy that invented the jump shot?
95 00:04:12,295 00:04:13,818 - About eight years ago, I guess, - About eight years ago, I guess,
96 00:04:13,862 00:04:17,909 I started looking at, well,who could've done this? I started looking at, well,who could've done this?
97 00:04:17,953 00:04:20,825 - When I took over theFeatures Department at CBS, - When I took over theFeatures Department at CBS,
98 00:04:20,869 00:04:24,176 the editor that leftleft me a pile of stories the editor that leftleft me a pile of stories
99 00:04:24,220 00:04:25,700 that he thought would be worth pursuing, that he thought would be worth pursuing,
100 00:04:25,743 00:04:26,918 and I was goin' through, and I saw and I was goin' through, and I saw
101 00:04:26,962 00:04:28,529 "Kenny Sailors, inventor of the jump shot". "Kenny Sailors, inventor of the jump shot".
102 00:04:28,572 00:04:29,791 The first time I ever heard the name. The first time I ever heard the name.
103 00:04:29,834 00:04:30,748 - Are you sittin' down? - Are you sittin' down?
104 00:04:32,707 00:04:36,188 People think better on theirass than they do on their feet. People think better on theirass than they do on their feet.
105 00:04:36,232 00:04:40,280 - There was a lot of tales andfables about this and that, - There was a lot of tales andfables about this and that,
106 00:04:40,323 00:04:44,806 but I kept coming to thisstory of Kenny Sailors, but I kept coming to thisstory of Kenny Sailors,
107 00:04:44,849 00:04:49,637 and it just led to Laramie,Wyoming of all places. and it just led to Laramie,Wyoming of all places.
108 00:04:51,247 00:04:56,252 [train horn blaring] [bird squawking] [train horn blaring] [bird squawking]
109 00:04:59,821 00:05:02,302 - You'll have enough wildstories to talk about - You'll have enough wildstories to talk about
110 00:05:03,825 00:05:04,826 when you get back. when you get back.
111 00:05:08,917 00:05:09,700 - Well, now you're next. - Well, now you're next.
112 00:05:09,744 00:05:10,832 That one guy had to go. That one guy had to go.
113 00:05:10,875 00:05:11,746 - [Kenny] No, is that right? - [Kenny] No, is that right?
114 00:05:11,789 00:05:13,138 - Yeah, he had to go to class. - Yeah, he had to go to class.
115 00:05:13,182 00:05:14,270 - [Kenny] Okay, well. - [Kenny] Okay, well.
116 00:05:16,794 00:05:19,188 - [Larry] He's 90 goin' on 70. - [Larry] He's 90 goin' on 70.
117 00:05:19,231 00:05:20,537 He just keep on goin'. He just keep on goin'.
118 00:05:20,581 00:05:22,278 [chuckling] - Right. [chuckling] - Right.
119 00:05:22,322 00:05:24,062 Yeah, I'll be up there too much Yeah, I'll be up there too much
120 00:05:24,106 00:05:25,020 probably for too long. - See, well, yeah. probably for too long. - See, well, yeah.
121 00:05:25,063 00:05:27,588 Well, you don't know how long. Well, you don't know how long.
122 00:05:27,631 00:05:28,893 - Well, how long could it be - Well, how long could it be
123 00:05:28,937 00:05:30,155 when you-- - Well, you've probably when you-- - Well, you've probably
124 00:05:30,199 00:05:31,505 gone longer than you thought already. gone longer than you thought already.
125 00:05:31,548 00:05:32,810 - Oh, well, [chuckling]. - Oh, well, [chuckling].
126 00:05:33,724 00:05:34,638 Don't ask me why. Don't ask me why.
127 00:05:34,682 00:05:35,944 I don't know. [Larry laughing] I don't know. [Larry laughing]
128 00:05:35,987 00:05:38,599 Probably just to harass barbers like you. Probably just to harass barbers like you.
129 00:05:38,642 00:05:40,557 [Larry laughing] [Larry laughing]
130 00:05:40,601 00:05:42,603 - [Larry] Every time he comesin here somebody knows him. - [Larry] Every time he comesin here somebody knows him.
131 00:05:42,646 00:05:44,779 [clippers buzzing] - He's pretty popular. [clippers buzzing] - He's pretty popular.
132 00:05:45,997 00:05:48,130 - I'm not popular, that jump shot's popular. - I'm not popular, that jump shot's popular.
133 00:05:49,523 00:05:50,785 [groaning] [groaning]
134 00:05:50,828 00:05:52,787 - That's what people are really intrigued with, - That's what people are really intrigued with,
135 00:05:52,830 00:05:54,005 basketball and the jump shot. basketball and the jump shot.
136 00:05:54,049 00:05:56,181 The jump shot, the jump shot, the jump shot. The jump shot, the jump shot, the jump shot.
137 00:05:56,225 00:05:57,748 His whole life changed that day he decided His whole life changed that day he decided
138 00:05:57,792 00:05:59,924 to jump in the air, and shoot over his brother. to jump in the air, and shoot over his brother.
139 00:05:59,968 00:06:03,711 [mellow instrumental music playing] [mellow instrumental music playing]
140 00:06:03,754 00:06:06,801 - I grew up about seven oreight miles south of Hillsdale, - I grew up about seven oreight miles south of Hillsdale,
141 00:06:08,324 00:06:09,586 and Hillsdale, I don't imagine, and Hillsdale, I don't imagine,
142 00:06:09,630 00:06:11,371 had 50 people in the whole town. had 50 people in the whole town.
143 00:06:12,502 00:06:14,548 But anyway, basketball was their sport, But anyway, basketball was their sport,
144 00:06:14,591 00:06:16,071 because they couldn't afford football, because they couldn't afford football,
145 00:06:16,114 00:06:17,333 or these other sports, or these other sports,
146 00:06:17,377 00:06:19,248 and, certainly, durin' the Depression. and, certainly, durin' the Depression.
147 00:06:21,163 00:06:23,818 My brother was a good ballplayer, and a good athlete, My brother was a good ballplayer, and a good athlete,
148 00:06:23,861 00:06:26,821 and the coach liked him there in Hillsdale. and the coach liked him there in Hillsdale.
149 00:06:26,864 00:06:28,431 He told him he had a kid brother He told him he had a kid brother
150 00:06:28,475 00:06:29,693 who's just learned to play the game, who's just learned to play the game,
151 00:06:29,737 00:06:31,652 and that they'd surelike to have a basketball and that they'd surelike to have a basketball
152 00:06:31,695 00:06:33,654 he could take out, and give to him. he could take out, and give to him.
153 00:06:33,697 00:06:36,831 [rooster crowing] [rooster crowing]
154 00:06:36,874 00:06:39,747 And, of course, we didn'thave any place to play, And, of course, we didn'thave any place to play,
155 00:06:39,790 00:06:41,270 but he fixed a backboard, but he fixed a backboard,
156 00:06:41,313 00:06:44,447 and we fastened it to the oldwooden windmill that we had. and we fastened it to the oldwooden windmill that we had.
157 00:06:44,491 00:06:45,840 We'd play one-on-one, We'd play one-on-one,
158 00:06:45,883 00:06:47,798 and I never could get a shot off, and I never could get a shot off,
159 00:06:47,842 00:06:48,973 and he really enjoyed that, and he really enjoyed that,
160 00:06:49,017 00:06:51,323 because he was 6'5 and I was just about, because he was 6'5 and I was just about,
161 00:06:51,367 00:06:53,848 I don't know, 5'7 probably. I don't know, 5'7 probably.
162 00:06:53,891 00:06:55,676 He use to tell me that, "Youbetter find another game". He use to tell me that, "Youbetter find another game".
163 00:06:55,719 00:06:56,851 "This isn't your game." "This isn't your game."
164 00:06:56,894 00:06:58,722 "It's for big men, tall men." "It's for big men, tall men."
165 00:06:59,941 00:07:00,811 - But when you think about the way - But when you think about the way
166 00:07:00,855 00:07:02,073 the game was played back then, the game was played back then,
167 00:07:02,117 00:07:03,466 you kinda think of that old news reel footage. you kinda think of that old news reel footage.
168 00:07:03,510 00:07:04,728 It was the kind that happen, you know, It was the kind that happen, you know,
169 00:07:04,772 00:07:06,164 that paint drying paste. that paint drying paste.
170 00:07:06,208 00:07:06,991 - No shot clock. - No shot clock.
171 00:07:07,035 00:07:09,211 No sense of urgency. No sense of urgency.
172 00:07:09,254 00:07:12,475 Obviously, it's antiquated,because it's where we started. Obviously, it's antiquated,because it's where we started.
173 00:07:12,519 00:07:14,912 - It's athletic, because there'smovement and coordination, - It's athletic, because there'smovement and coordination,
174 00:07:14,956 00:07:17,524 but it feels slower. but it feels slower.
175 00:07:17,567 00:07:19,569 It certainly is grounded. It certainly is grounded.
176 00:07:19,613 00:07:20,831 - The standard rule was - The standard rule was
177 00:07:20,875 00:07:23,878 you never leave your feet on defense, you never leave your feet on defense,
178 00:07:23,921 00:07:25,793 and especially on offense. and especially on offense.
179 00:07:25,836 00:07:27,185 It's a whole different game today. It's a whole different game today.
180 00:07:27,229 00:07:28,796 [chuckling] [chuckling]
181 00:07:28,839 00:07:30,014 - They hardly dribbled theball, passed it around. - They hardly dribbled theball, passed it around.
182 00:07:30,058 00:07:31,842 The guys shootin' set shots. The guys shootin' set shots.
183 00:07:31,886 00:07:33,931 - They all shot a two-handed shot. - They all shot a two-handed shot.
184 00:07:33,975 00:07:35,629 Push out here from the chest. Push out here from the chest.
185 00:07:35,672 00:07:37,935 - You know, if you were gonnashoot a two-hand set shot - You know, if you were gonnashoot a two-hand set shot
186 00:07:37,979 00:07:39,807 you had to be wide open. you had to be wide open.
187 00:07:39,850 00:07:41,809 - I don't know if set shot off today. - I don't know if set shot off today.
188 00:07:41,852 00:07:44,159 Have to be 50 feet away from the guy. Have to be 50 feet away from the guy.
189 00:07:44,202 00:07:45,769 - [Kenny] You couldn'thave anybody close to you - [Kenny] You couldn'thave anybody close to you
190 00:07:45,813 00:07:48,685 who would just put a handup, and block your shot. who would just put a handup, and block your shot.
191 00:07:48,729 00:07:50,426 - If a shot has to be constructed - If a shot has to be constructed
192 00:07:50,470 00:07:53,516 over a period of one, two, three seconds, over a period of one, two, three seconds,
193 00:07:53,560 00:07:55,823 the game is slowed by definition. the game is slowed by definition.
194 00:07:55,866 00:07:57,302 - If you look at some of these guys now, - If you look at some of these guys now,
195 00:07:57,346 00:07:58,913 like a Westbrook, or somethin', like a Westbrook, or somethin',
196 00:07:58,956 00:08:01,045 they way they fly down thecourt, and jump on the gym. they way they fly down thecourt, and jump on the gym.
197 00:08:01,785 00:08:03,265 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
198 00:08:03,308 00:08:05,310 Looks almost like a differentsport than back then. Looks almost like a differentsport than back then.
199 00:08:05,354 00:08:07,704 - It'll tell you, man, if Iwas born like 60 years earlier - It'll tell you, man, if Iwas born like 60 years earlier
200 00:08:07,748 00:08:10,098 I would've been in the NBA, no doubt. I would've been in the NBA, no doubt.
201 00:08:10,141 00:08:11,099 [exhaling loudly] [exhaling loudly]
202 00:08:11,142 00:08:12,709 - I think I'd be a monster. - I think I'd be a monster.
203 00:08:12,753 00:08:14,668 - Oh, I would've gotten somebuckets, that's for sure. - Oh, I would've gotten somebuckets, that's for sure.
204 00:08:14,711 00:08:16,974 - Yeah, I feel like a little step back, - Yeah, I feel like a little step back,
205 00:08:17,018 00:08:19,368 or a between the legs crossover, or a between the legs crossover,
206 00:08:19,411 00:08:21,065 we'd throw somebody into the first row. we'd throw somebody into the first row.
207 00:08:21,109 00:08:23,198 [laughing] [laughing]
208 00:08:23,241 00:08:26,462 [basketball thudding] [basketball thudding]
209 00:08:35,515 00:08:36,254 [ball thudding basketball goal] [ball thudding basketball goal]
210 00:08:36,298 00:08:37,168 [basketball thudding] [basketball thudding]
211 00:08:37,212 00:08:39,214 - High on the board, Sailors. - High on the board, Sailors.
212 00:08:39,257 00:08:41,695 I just made up my mindthat I was gonna find a way I just made up my mindthat I was gonna find a way
213 00:08:41,738 00:08:43,523 to shoot the ball over the guy. to shoot the ball over the guy.
214 00:08:43,566 00:08:45,002 My brother, he made up his mind, My brother, he made up his mind,
215 00:08:45,046 00:08:46,787 "I'm gonna frustrate that little squirt, "I'm gonna frustrate that little squirt,
216 00:08:46,830 00:08:48,702 and not even let him get a shot off". and not even let him get a shot off".
217 00:08:48,745 00:08:50,138 Somehow, the idea come to me is, Somehow, the idea come to me is,
218 00:08:50,181 00:08:53,445 well, if I jump up, and I knew I could jump, well, if I jump up, and I knew I could jump,
219 00:08:53,489 00:08:56,318 if I jump up high enough outof my dribble, like this, if I jump up high enough outof my dribble, like this,
220 00:08:56,361 00:08:57,928 I dribbled up, [ball thudding] I dribbled up, [ball thudding]
221 00:08:57,972 00:09:01,497 and from here, right on thedribble, I jumped straight up, and from here, right on thedribble, I jumped straight up,
222 00:09:01,541 00:09:03,934 and bring the ball up right over my head, and bring the ball up right over my head,
223 00:09:03,978 00:09:06,763 and I let it go, and the thing went in, and I let it go, and the thing went in,
224 00:09:07,982 00:09:10,201 and I was just as surprised,or more than he was, and I was just as surprised,or more than he was,
225 00:09:10,245 00:09:12,421 and the ball went in the basket. and the ball went in the basket.
226 00:09:12,464 00:09:13,683 His feet was on the ground. His feet was on the ground.
227 00:09:13,727 00:09:15,163 He hadn't even left the floor. He hadn't even left the floor.
228 00:09:15,206 00:09:16,512 Boy, that spooked him. Boy, that spooked him.
229 00:09:16,556 00:09:19,167 He said, "That's a good shot, Kenny". He said, "That's a good shot, Kenny".
230 00:09:19,210 00:09:21,604 "You have to get better at that." "You have to get better at that."
231 00:09:21,648 00:09:23,780 Well, I started workin' on it from that time on. Well, I started workin' on it from that time on.
232 00:09:23,824 00:09:24,694 [engine roaring] [engine roaring]
233 00:09:24,738 00:09:27,044 [upbeat jive music playing] [upbeat jive music playing]
234 00:09:27,088 00:09:29,220 Mom wanted Bud to go to college. Mom wanted Bud to go to college.
235 00:09:29,264 00:09:33,355 She sold the farm, and we boughtthat home here in Laramie. She sold the farm, and we boughtthat home here in Laramie.
236 00:09:33,398 00:09:36,184 I graduated high school in the spring of '39. I graduated high school in the spring of '39.
237 00:09:36,227 00:09:38,926 Entered the university to play basketball. Entered the university to play basketball.
238 00:09:40,188 00:09:42,930 - The University of Wyoming hired Ev Shelton - The University of Wyoming hired Ev Shelton
239 00:09:42,973 00:09:45,541 to coach the basketball at Wyoming. to coach the basketball at Wyoming.
240 00:09:45,585 00:09:47,064 - He was a remarkable guy. - He was a remarkable guy.
241 00:09:47,108 00:09:48,718 Charming beyond belief. Charming beyond belief.
242 00:09:48,762 00:09:52,156 On the floor he elicited the greatest respect. On the floor he elicited the greatest respect.
243 00:09:52,200 00:09:53,201 - He'd didn't curse me. - He'd didn't curse me.
244 00:09:53,244 00:09:54,898 Come up to you, and say, Come up to you, and say,
245 00:09:55,856 00:09:57,248 "Did you hear what I said?", "Did you hear what I said?",
246 00:09:57,292 00:09:59,773 and leave little knobs in your head. and leave little knobs in your head.
247 00:09:59,816 00:10:01,775 - He didn't have to shout at ya. - He didn't have to shout at ya.
248 00:10:01,818 00:10:03,820 He just had to look at ya. He just had to look at ya.
249 00:10:03,864 00:10:05,605 - When he came, he said to us, - When he came, he said to us,
250 00:10:05,648 00:10:08,346 "Now, I've won nationalchampionships in AAU ball". "Now, I've won nationalchampionships in AAU ball".
251 00:10:08,390 00:10:11,088 He said, "I wanna win acollege national championship". He said, "I wanna win acollege national championship".
252 00:10:11,132 00:10:12,612 He told us right off. He told us right off.
253 00:10:12,655 00:10:15,179 - Kenny and his fellow teammates were freshmen, - Kenny and his fellow teammates were freshmen,
254 00:10:15,223 00:10:18,269 and freshmen were not eligible in those days. and freshmen were not eligible in those days.
255 00:10:18,313 00:10:19,662 - He didn't think too much of us - He didn't think too much of us
256 00:10:19,706 00:10:22,665 yellow punk Wyoming freshmen. yellow punk Wyoming freshmen.
257 00:10:22,709 00:10:26,016 Nearly every one of us, LewRoney, Volker, and Shadow Ray, Nearly every one of us, LewRoney, Volker, and Shadow Ray,
258 00:10:26,060 00:10:28,018 and myself, and Collins, and myself, and Collins,
259 00:10:28,062 00:10:30,978 and Weir, of course, he'sthe big man from Green River, and Weir, of course, he'sthe big man from Green River,
260 00:10:31,021 00:10:32,675 we were all all-state players, you know? we were all all-state players, you know?
261 00:10:32,719 00:10:35,591 So we did have a prettyhigh opinion of ourselves. So we did have a prettyhigh opinion of ourselves.
262 00:10:36,897 00:10:38,115 He says, "We're gonna geta team here at Wyoming". He says, "We're gonna geta team here at Wyoming".
263 00:10:38,159 00:10:40,030 "It's gonna win a national championship." "It's gonna win a national championship."
264 00:10:40,074 00:10:41,118 "And I don't know if you're the boys "And I don't know if you're the boys
265 00:10:41,162 00:10:42,772 that's gonna do that, or not." that's gonna do that, or not."
266 00:10:42,816 00:10:44,339 - [Male] That year, the varsity squad - [Male] That year, the varsity squad
267 00:10:44,382 00:10:46,820 was lead by junior star, Willie Rothman, was lead by junior star, Willie Rothman,
268 00:10:46,863 00:10:49,561 and future sports broadcaster, Curt Gowdy. and future sports broadcaster, Curt Gowdy.
269 00:10:49,605 00:10:51,433 - The freshmen scrimmaged the varsity, - The freshmen scrimmaged the varsity,
270 00:10:51,476 00:10:53,870 but Kenny and Jim Weir, they let it be known but Kenny and Jim Weir, they let it be known
271 00:10:53,914 00:10:55,872 that they thought they were better. that they thought they were better.
272 00:10:55,916 00:10:56,830 - [Kenny] We thought we didn't have - [Kenny] We thought we didn't have
273 00:10:56,873 00:10:58,527 any trouble scorin' on 'em. any trouble scorin' on 'em.
274 00:10:58,570 00:11:00,137 We got to braggin' and teasin' 'em We got to braggin' and teasin' 'em
275 00:11:00,181 00:11:03,488 until the point that Sheltongot kinda fed up with it. until the point that Sheltongot kinda fed up with it.
276 00:11:03,532 00:11:05,752 So Shelton one day come in, and announced, So Shelton one day come in, and announced,
277 00:11:05,795 00:11:09,190 he says, "I'm gonna arrange agame for you cocky freshmen". he says, "I'm gonna arrange agame for you cocky freshmen".
278 00:11:09,233 00:11:12,062 - Shelton went and scheduleda game, and sold tickets, - Shelton went and scheduleda game, and sold tickets,
279 00:11:12,106 00:11:14,543 and I think Shelton'sidea was he was gonna put and I think Shelton'sidea was he was gonna put
280 00:11:14,586 00:11:16,719 Jim Weir and Kenny Sailors in their place. Jim Weir and Kenny Sailors in their place.
281 00:11:16,763 00:11:18,895 - [Kenny] We played 'em, and we beat 'em. - [Kenny] We played 'em, and we beat 'em.
282 00:11:18,939 00:11:20,549 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
283 00:11:20,592 00:11:22,464 - Kenny Sailors and hisfreshmen beat the varsity, - Kenny Sailors and hisfreshmen beat the varsity,
284 00:11:22,507 00:11:23,770 and beat 'em pretty well. and beat 'em pretty well.
285 00:11:23,813 00:11:25,206 - [Kenny] They only had the 31. - [Kenny] They only had the 31.
286 00:11:25,249 00:11:27,730 Weir and I had a combination between us, Weir and I had a combination between us,
287 00:11:27,774 00:11:29,906 the same number of pointsthat the varsity had. the same number of pointsthat the varsity had.
288 00:11:29,950 00:11:31,734 - He was the governor out there. - He was the governor out there.
289 00:11:31,778 00:11:33,344 He controlled the ballgame. He controlled the ballgame.
290 00:11:33,388 00:11:35,216 - [Kenny] Shelton didn'tsay much right at the time. - [Kenny] Shelton didn'tsay much right at the time.
291 00:11:35,259 00:11:36,870 I think he was about half embarrassed, I think he was about half embarrassed,
292 00:11:36,913 00:11:39,220 as was the varsity team. as was the varsity team.
293 00:11:39,263 00:11:41,570 He didn't expect to lose that game, I'm sure, He didn't expect to lose that game, I'm sure,
294 00:11:41,613 00:11:43,790 or he'd a never played it. or he'd a never played it.
295 00:11:45,661 00:11:48,795 - For all of us growing up in the 1940s, - For all of us growing up in the 1940s,
296 00:11:48,838 00:11:52,842 we all wanted to play ballat the University of Wyoming. we all wanted to play ballat the University of Wyoming.
297 00:11:54,322 00:11:56,846 - [Male] Our dad would take us to games. - [Male] Our dad would take us to games.
298 00:11:56,890 00:11:58,369 - We would go into the dressing room, - We would go into the dressing room,
299 00:11:58,413 00:12:02,547 and meet all these guys, MiloKomenich, Weir, and Volker. and meet all these guys, MiloKomenich, Weir, and Volker.
300 00:12:02,591 00:12:04,245 - [Male] They werewonderful guys, and Kenny, - [Male] They werewonderful guys, and Kenny,
301 00:12:04,288 00:12:07,117 that was the one youalways kind of focused on. that was the one youalways kind of focused on.
302 00:12:10,381 00:12:11,861 - [Kenny] When people have asked me - [Kenny] When people have asked me
303 00:12:11,905 00:12:13,907 why I didn't date thegirls, I said, "Well, I do". why I didn't date thegirls, I said, "Well, I do".
304 00:12:13,950 00:12:16,866 "I have a steady, and she'sabout that big around." "I have a steady, and she'sabout that big around."
305 00:12:16,910 00:12:18,302 "I go with her all the time." "I go with her all the time."
306 00:12:19,826 00:12:21,697 I wanted to be a good basketball player, I wanted to be a good basketball player,
307 00:12:21,741 00:12:23,960 and girls just didn't fit into that for me. and girls just didn't fit into that for me.
308 00:12:25,309 00:12:27,137 A friend of mine, Stan Hathaway, A friend of mine, Stan Hathaway,
309 00:12:27,181 00:12:30,967 he was workin' for his boardover in the Kappa house. he was workin' for his boardover in the Kappa house.
310 00:12:31,011 00:12:32,621 One time he came over at the union, and he said, One time he came over at the union, and he said,
311 00:12:32,664 00:12:34,536 "Kenny", he says, "You'rereally missin' it". "Kenny", he says, "You'rereally missin' it".
312 00:12:34,579 00:12:36,277 "We got the prettiest girls on the campus "We got the prettiest girls on the campus
313 00:12:36,320 00:12:37,800 over there in the Kappa house, over there in the Kappa house,
314 00:12:37,844 00:12:41,499 especially one girl that wehave over there's from Casper." especially one girl that wehave over there's from Casper."
315 00:12:41,543 00:12:43,893 Her name was Marilynne Corbin. Her name was Marilynne Corbin.
316 00:12:43,937 00:12:45,590 - [Male] She was a cheerleader for the - [Male] She was a cheerleader for the
317 00:12:45,634 00:12:47,331 football and the basketball team, football and the basketball team,
318 00:12:47,375 00:12:48,855 and she was the drum majorette, and she was the drum majorette,
319 00:12:48,898 00:12:52,728 and threw the baton up in theair at the head of the band. and threw the baton up in theair at the head of the band.
320 00:12:52,772 00:12:54,077 - [Kenny] Anyway, he came in one day - [Kenny] Anyway, he came in one day
321 00:12:54,121 00:12:56,776 with these four beautiful girls, with these four beautiful girls,
322 00:12:56,819 00:12:59,474 and I was sittin' theretalkin' with Stan mostly, and I was sittin' theretalkin' with Stan mostly,
323 00:12:59,517 00:13:02,129 'cause I was too embarrassedto talk to the girls, 'cause I was too embarrassedto talk to the girls,
324 00:13:02,172 00:13:03,826 and right there in front of 'em, all of 'em, and right there in front of 'em, all of 'em,
325 00:13:03,870 00:13:05,175 he said, "Kenny", he said, he said, "Kenny", he said,
326 00:13:05,219 00:13:07,612 "Do you know our Phi Deltdance is this weekend?" "Do you know our Phi Deltdance is this weekend?"
327 00:13:08,613 00:13:10,790 I said, "I don't dance, Stan". I said, "I don't dance, Stan".
328 00:13:10,833 00:13:12,226 "You know that." "You know that."
329 00:13:12,269 00:13:14,489 I'd forgot all about it, ordidn't even know about it. I'd forgot all about it, ordidn't even know about it.
330 00:13:14,532 00:13:16,012 Yeah, and he said, Yeah, and he said,
331 00:13:16,056 00:13:18,275 "You know, that's somethin'you oughta take Marilynne to". "You know, that's somethin'you oughta take Marilynne to".
332 00:13:18,319 00:13:20,756 Right there in front of her. Right there in front of her.
333 00:13:21,888 00:13:24,281 She pipes up, he coached her, no doubt, She pipes up, he coached her, no doubt,
334 00:13:24,325 00:13:26,414 she says, "Well, I don'tcare about dancin' anyway". she says, "Well, I don'tcare about dancin' anyway".
335 00:13:26,457 00:13:29,852 "We'll just go have somefun, if you wanna take me." "We'll just go have somefun, if you wanna take me."
336 00:13:29,896 00:13:32,681 [chuckling] [chuckling]
337 00:13:32,724 00:13:34,857 - [Interviewer] Did you guysgo on dates in the outdoors? - [Interviewer] Did you guysgo on dates in the outdoors?
338 00:13:34,901 00:13:36,163 - [Kenny] Yeah, we sure did, didn't we, Bokie? - [Kenny] Yeah, we sure did, didn't we, Bokie?
339 00:13:36,206 00:13:37,686 - Go on picnics. - Go on picnics.
340 00:13:37,729 00:13:39,122 - [Marilynne] - [Marilynne]
341 00:13:43,605 00:13:44,432 [laughing] [laughing]
342 00:13:44,475 00:13:45,694 - That sounds romantic. - That sounds romantic.
343 00:13:47,043 00:13:48,305 - We started goin' together, - We started goin' together,
344 00:13:48,349 00:13:50,742 and went steady the rest of the year, and went steady the rest of the year,
345 00:13:50,786 00:13:52,744 and then that summer we were married. and then that summer we were married.
346 00:13:54,746 00:13:55,791 - She was funny. - She was funny.
347 00:13:55,835 00:13:56,748 She had a sense of humor, she did. She had a sense of humor, she did.
348 00:13:56,792 00:13:58,402 She had a great Tarzan yell, She had a great Tarzan yell,
349 00:13:58,446 00:14:00,840 and I guess, and thoughtit would've been real fun and I guess, and thoughtit would've been real fun
350 00:14:00,883 00:14:04,060 to know her when she was20, and I grew up with her, to know her when she was20, and I grew up with her,
351 00:14:04,104 00:14:05,714 'cause she was a lot of fun. 'cause she was a lot of fun.
352 00:14:05,757 00:14:08,586 - [Kenny] She was a beautifulwoman, for one thing, - [Kenny] She was a beautifulwoman, for one thing,
353 00:14:08,630 00:14:12,460 but her beauty was a lotdeeper than just on her skin. but her beauty was a lotdeeper than just on her skin.
354 00:14:12,503 00:14:14,897 - They had a really loving relationship, - They had a really loving relationship,
355 00:14:14,941 00:14:16,856 and he and she complimentedeach other really well. and he and she complimentedeach other really well.
356 00:14:16,899 00:14:18,858 Grandma was definitely very independent, Grandma was definitely very independent,
357 00:14:18,901 00:14:20,903 and she was her own woman, and she was her own woman,
358 00:14:20,947 00:14:24,776 and I feel like that's whygrandpa loved her so much. and I feel like that's whygrandpa loved her so much.
359 00:14:24,820 00:14:26,691 - [Kenny] She just had a wonderful personality, - [Kenny] She just had a wonderful personality,
360 00:14:26,735 00:14:28,824 and, of course, her values, and her thinking and, of course, her values, and her thinking
361 00:14:28,868 00:14:31,566 was just what a husband really wanted. was just what a husband really wanted.
362 00:14:31,609 00:14:35,831 [instrumental jazz music playing] [instrumental jazz music playing]
363 00:14:35,875 00:14:40,401 - In those days, the coachcould not talk with the team - In those days, the coachcould not talk with the team
364 00:14:40,444 00:14:41,793 during the game at all. during the game at all.
365 00:14:41,837 00:14:43,012 Nobody was allowed to interfere with Nobody was allowed to interfere with
366 00:14:43,056 00:14:44,927 a play of the game even during timeouts. a play of the game even during timeouts.
367 00:14:44,971 00:14:48,148 So guess who told the team what to do? So guess who told the team what to do?
368 00:14:48,191 00:14:50,715 The captain on the floor, that was Kenny. The captain on the floor, that was Kenny.
369 00:14:51,934 00:14:52,804 - [Male] Everybody became confident - [Male] Everybody became confident
370 00:14:52,848 00:14:54,154 in what they did through Kenny, in what they did through Kenny,
371 00:14:54,197 00:14:56,243 because they knew they had a guy because they knew they had a guy
372 00:14:56,286 00:14:58,593 who could elevate them as a team. who could elevate them as a team.
373 00:14:58,636 00:14:59,768 - A lot of people ask, "Didn'tyou play with Kenny Sailors?" - A lot of people ask, "Didn'tyou play with Kenny Sailors?"
374 00:14:59,811 00:15:02,466 I said, "Yeah, I sure did". I said, "Yeah, I sure did".
375 00:15:02,510 00:15:03,598 "Describe him." "Describe him."
376 00:15:04,425 00:15:05,817 "A rattlesnake." "A rattlesnake."
377 00:15:05,861 00:15:07,732 - As mild and as gentle as he is, - As mild and as gentle as he is,
378 00:15:07,776 00:15:10,779 when it comes to competition,he'd tear your throat out. when it comes to competition,he'd tear your throat out.
379 00:15:10,822 00:15:11,998 - [Male] That's what he was, - [Male] That's what he was,
380 00:15:12,041 00:15:13,173 the quickest guy I ever saw on the court the quickest guy I ever saw on the court
381 00:15:13,216 00:15:14,478 with his hand and his feet. with his hand and his feet.
382 00:15:14,522 00:15:15,827 - [Male] Ken would fake a drawing, - [Male] Ken would fake a drawing,
383 00:15:15,871 00:15:18,308 and step back, and be in the air and step back, and be in the air
384 00:15:18,352 00:15:21,311 by the time the defensivemen would get to him. by the time the defensivemen would get to him.
385 00:15:25,489 00:15:28,884 - When I watched Kenny Sailors,it actually blew me away. - When I watched Kenny Sailors,it actually blew me away.
386 00:15:28,928 00:15:31,713 - If you saw Kenny Sailorsplay, you saw the jump shot. - If you saw Kenny Sailorsplay, you saw the jump shot.
387 00:15:31,756 00:15:35,238 - [Sports Announcer] Ken Sailorsof Wyoming sinks this one. - [Sports Announcer] Ken Sailorsof Wyoming sinks this one.
388 00:15:35,282 00:15:37,806 - [Male] He was ahead of his time. - [Male] He was ahead of his time.
389 00:15:37,849 00:15:39,460 - The first time I ever saw a guy do that. - The first time I ever saw a guy do that.
390 00:15:39,503 00:15:42,942 Kenny shot one in, and onhis way up, he was great. Kenny shot one in, and onhis way up, he was great.
391 00:15:42,985 00:15:45,988 - [Male] No one shot thatup until then like he did. - [Male] No one shot thatup until then like he did.
392 00:15:47,555 00:15:49,644 - I would pay money to seewhoever's defending Kenny - I would pay money to seewhoever's defending Kenny
393 00:15:49,687 00:15:51,733 that first time he roseup, and shot a jump shot, that first time he roseup, and shot a jump shot,
394 00:15:51,776 00:15:54,779 just to see like thesnapshot of that guy's face. just to see like thesnapshot of that guy's face.
395 00:15:54,823 00:15:57,478 As he's like comin' down in transition, rises up, As he's like comin' down in transition, rises up,
396 00:15:57,521 00:16:00,176 and the guy's like, what is goin' on? and the guy's like, what is goin' on?
397 00:16:00,220 00:16:02,048 This has gotta be atravel or somethin', like. This has gotta be atravel or somethin', like.
398 00:16:02,091 00:16:03,963 - Ev Shelton had no idea what to do with that. - Ev Shelton had no idea what to do with that.
399 00:16:04,006 00:16:05,790 There were no coaches that were There were no coaches that were
400 00:16:05,834 00:16:08,619 teaching that skillset, or fundamental, teaching that skillset, or fundamental,
401 00:16:08,663 00:16:10,708 but he had enough sense to let him shoot it. but he had enough sense to let him shoot it.
402 00:16:10,752 00:16:13,624 - That speaks to the selflessness of the coach, to me, - That speaks to the selflessness of the coach, to me,
403 00:16:13,668 00:16:15,626 and it allowed Kenny to thrive, and it allowed Kenny to thrive,
404 00:16:15,670 00:16:18,194 and it was goin' against the grain of the time, and it was goin' against the grain of the time,
405 00:16:18,238 00:16:19,848 but that's really but that's really
406 00:16:19,891 00:16:22,851 one of the hallmarks of anyoutstanding coach, in my mind. one of the hallmarks of anyoutstanding coach, in my mind.
407 00:16:22,894 00:16:24,940 - [Kenny] Shelton had an advanced offense - [Kenny] Shelton had an advanced offense
408 00:16:24,984 00:16:26,898 for those days in basketball. for those days in basketball.
409 00:16:26,942 00:16:28,335 - It was called the Shelton Weave, - It was called the Shelton Weave,
410 00:16:28,378 00:16:31,599 which put him in the NationalBasketball Hall of Fame. which put him in the NationalBasketball Hall of Fame.
411 00:16:31,642 00:16:32,904 - [Male] The main thing about it was - [Male] The main thing about it was
412 00:16:32,948 00:16:35,864 he knew how to set insideand outside screens. he knew how to set insideand outside screens.
413 00:16:35,907 00:16:37,909 - [Male] It would pull the big men out, - [Male] It would pull the big men out,
414 00:16:37,953 00:16:40,825 and they weren't use to playing on the outside. and they weren't use to playing on the outside.
415 00:16:40,869 00:16:43,872 - [Male] Finally, somebody would be open. - [Male] Finally, somebody would be open.
416 00:16:43,915 00:16:45,569 - Once they startedplaying well and winning, - Once they startedplaying well and winning,
417 00:16:45,613 00:16:46,962 then nobody wanted to play 'em, then nobody wanted to play 'em,
418 00:16:47,006 00:16:49,921 'cause what do you have towin if you beat Wyoming? 'cause what do you have towin if you beat Wyoming?
419 00:16:49,965 00:16:52,707 - Wyoming is not an easy place to get to, - Wyoming is not an easy place to get to,
420 00:16:52,750 00:16:55,536 especially when thebasketballs start bouncing especially when thebasketballs start bouncing
421 00:16:55,579 00:16:56,972 from November to March. from November to March.
422 00:16:58,104 00:16:59,757 - [Kenny] I think they have always feared - [Kenny] I think they have always feared
423 00:16:59,801 00:17:01,542 coming up to play in Wyoming. coming up to play in Wyoming.
424 00:17:02,804 00:17:04,849 - The University of Wyomingis sitting at altitude - The University of Wyomingis sitting at altitude
425 00:17:04,893 00:17:07,635 of whatever feet, and all youcan do is get winded and lose. of whatever feet, and all youcan do is get winded and lose.
426 00:17:07,678 00:17:09,289 - And we made a big sign up, you know, - And we made a big sign up, you know,
427 00:17:09,332 00:17:11,726 "How you breathin' with 7,000 feet?" "How you breathin' with 7,000 feet?"
428 00:17:11,769 00:17:13,032 [mumbling] [mumbling]
429 00:17:13,075 00:17:14,729 - You playin' one team, they had an oxygen tank, - You playin' one team, they had an oxygen tank,
430 00:17:14,772 00:17:15,904 and masks on the sideline. and masks on the sideline.
431 00:17:15,947 00:17:17,906 I said "Are you kiddin' me?" I said "Are you kiddin' me?"
432 00:17:17,949 00:17:20,169 - Shelton said, "They won'tcome here to 7,000 feet". - Shelton said, "They won'tcome here to 7,000 feet".
433 00:17:20,213 00:17:22,345 "We've tried to get teamsall over the nation." "We've tried to get teamsall over the nation."
434 00:17:22,389 00:17:23,868 "They won't come up here to place us." "They won't come up here to place us."
435 00:17:23,912 00:17:24,956 "They're scared of us." "They're scared of us."
436 00:17:25,000 00:17:27,133 So he said, "We're gonna go to them". So he said, "We're gonna go to them".
437 00:17:27,176 00:17:28,003 - All aboard! - All aboard!
438 00:17:28,047 00:17:29,831 [train whistle blowing] [train whistle blowing]
439 00:17:29,874 00:17:32,094 - [Male] Everett Sheltondid something in those days - [Male] Everett Sheltondid something in those days
440 00:17:32,138 00:17:33,574 teams wouldn't do anymore. teams wouldn't do anymore.
441 00:17:33,617 00:17:34,923 He took his team on the road. He took his team on the road.
442 00:17:35,793 00:17:36,751 - Coaches who are coaching for - Coaches who are coaching for
443 00:17:36,794 00:17:38,927 their livelihood are gonna say, their livelihood are gonna say,
444 00:17:38,970 00:17:40,581 "I'd rather go 18 and three "I'd rather go 18 and three
445 00:17:40,624 00:17:42,496 against the guys around the block", against the guys around the block",
446 00:17:42,539 00:17:45,107 but he was coaching to wina national championship. but he was coaching to wina national championship.
447 00:17:45,151 00:17:46,978 - I'd never been on a train before in my life. - I'd never been on a train before in my life.
448 00:17:47,022 00:17:48,806 Never been out of the state of Wyoming. Never been out of the state of Wyoming.
449 00:17:48,850 00:17:50,156 None of us kids had. None of us kids had.
450 00:17:50,199 00:17:52,071 We were just a bunch ofcountry kids, most of us. We were just a bunch ofcountry kids, most of us.
451 00:17:53,246 00:17:54,551 - [Male] Ev Shelton wanted to go where - [Male] Ev Shelton wanted to go where
452 00:17:54,595 00:17:56,075 they could get the best competition. they could get the best competition.
453 00:17:56,118 00:17:57,815 [horn blaring] [horn blaring]
454 00:17:57,859 00:17:59,165 - [Male] They did a whistle stop tour, - [Male] They did a whistle stop tour,
455 00:17:59,208 00:18:00,731 and they'd stop the train along the way, and they'd stop the train along the way,
456 00:18:00,775 00:18:02,733 and play games againstanyone that would play 'em. and play games againstanyone that would play 'em.
457 00:18:02,777 00:18:03,995 - That's what we did. - That's what we did.
458 00:18:04,039 00:18:05,562 We'd go all up and down that East Coast. We'd go all up and down that East Coast.
459 00:18:05,606 00:18:08,130 We played all over thecountry anybody we could play. We played all over thecountry anybody we could play.
460 00:18:08,174 00:18:10,306 [upbeat jive music playing] [upbeat jive music playing]
461 00:18:10,350 00:18:14,310 - [Male] The 1942/43season, it really ranks with - [Male] The 1942/43season, it really ranks with
462 00:18:14,354 00:18:17,052 one of the great seasons of all time. one of the great seasons of all time.
463 00:18:17,096 00:18:18,706 - They not only took the challenge, - They not only took the challenge,
464 00:18:18,749 00:18:22,188 they went out and beat teamafter team away from home, they went out and beat teamafter team away from home,
465 00:18:22,231 00:18:24,842 gaining even more respect nationally. gaining even more respect nationally.
466 00:18:24,886 00:18:28,324 - [Male] Their road record was unbelievable. - [Male] Their road record was unbelievable.
467 00:18:28,368 00:18:29,717 - [Male] They played 33 games. - [Male] They played 33 games.
468 00:18:29,760 00:18:30,892 They won 31. They won 31.
469 00:18:30,935 00:18:32,807 And their only two losses were on the road. And their only two losses were on the road.
470 00:18:32,850 00:18:33,982 - [Male] They were dominant, - [Male] They were dominant,
471 00:18:34,025 00:18:35,723 and they were dominant with a flair. and they were dominant with a flair.
472 00:18:35,766 00:18:37,768 - Shelton, he finally got to the point - Shelton, he finally got to the point
473 00:18:37,812 00:18:40,206 where he'd say to us, "Now,boys, you're good enough, where he'd say to us, "Now,boys, you're good enough,
474 00:18:40,249 00:18:41,424 you can beat anybody". you can beat anybody".
475 00:18:41,468 00:18:42,904 "There isn't anybody can beat you." "There isn't anybody can beat you."
476 00:18:42,947 00:18:45,036 - [Male] Going undefeatedin conference play - [Male] Going undefeatedin conference play
477 00:18:45,080 00:18:47,430 put them into the NCA Tournament. put them into the NCA Tournament.
478 00:18:47,474 00:18:49,737 - [Male] Wyoming playedOklahoma first, and then Texas, - [Male] Wyoming playedOklahoma first, and then Texas,
479 00:18:49,780 00:18:52,957 in order to advance to thefinals in Madison Square Garden. in order to advance to thefinals in Madison Square Garden.
480 00:18:53,001 00:18:55,177 - [Male] You didn't getto Madison Square Garden, - [Male] You didn't getto Madison Square Garden,
481 00:18:55,221 00:18:58,180 you didn't get filmed, andyou didn't get photographed. you didn't get filmed, andyou didn't get photographed.
482 00:18:58,224 00:19:01,270 - It's the mecca of sports. - It's the mecca of sports.
483 00:19:01,314 00:19:03,272 Everything has happened there. Everything has happened there.
484 00:19:03,316 00:19:04,752 - If you played at the Garden, - If you played at the Garden,
485 00:19:04,795 00:19:06,710 can't get any higher than that. can't get any higher than that.
486 00:19:08,103 00:19:11,411 - For a team like Wyomingto come into New York City - For a team like Wyomingto come into New York City
487 00:19:11,454 00:19:13,804 in the spotlight on the biggest basketball stage in the spotlight on the biggest basketball stage
488 00:19:13,848 00:19:17,068 in the country is reallya remarkable achievement. in the country is reallya remarkable achievement.
489 00:19:17,112 00:19:19,201 - When they traveled to New York, - When they traveled to New York,
490 00:19:19,245 00:19:22,639 they may as well have beengoing to another planet. they may as well have beengoing to another planet.
491 00:19:22,683 00:19:24,075 - They turn all the lights off, - They turn all the lights off,
492 00:19:24,119 00:19:25,903 and we come runnin' out one at a time and we come runnin' out one at a time
493 00:19:25,947 00:19:27,209 with the spotlight on us, with the spotlight on us,
494 00:19:27,253 00:19:28,906 and they'd announce our names, you know? and they'd announce our names, you know?
495 00:19:28,950 00:19:31,605 Whoo, that was a big dealfor a country boy like me. Whoo, that was a big dealfor a country boy like me.
496 00:19:31,648 00:19:33,084 [laughing] [laughing]
497 00:19:33,128 00:19:34,260 - [Sports Announcer] Thisgame developed into a thriller - [Sports Announcer] Thisgame developed into a thriller
498 00:19:34,303 00:19:35,870 from the very first play. from the very first play.
499 00:19:35,913 00:19:38,133 The best planned has playedin New York this season. The best planned has playedin New York this season.
500 00:19:38,177 00:19:39,917 - Georgetown was tough. - Georgetown was tough.
501 00:19:39,961 00:19:41,310 I mean, they were a good ball club. I mean, they were a good ball club.
502 00:19:41,354 00:19:42,877 We didn't beat 'em by that much. We didn't beat 'em by that much.
503 00:19:44,879 00:19:47,708 - [Male] Kenny, he got onthat big stage, and performed. - [Male] Kenny, he got onthat big stage, and performed.
504 00:19:47,751 00:19:50,885 - Kenny Sailors was the most outstanding player - Kenny Sailors was the most outstanding player
505 00:19:50,928 00:19:52,800 of the NCAA Tournament. of the NCAA Tournament.
506 00:19:52,843 00:19:54,932 That's a resume that not very many people That's a resume that not very many people
507 00:19:54,976 00:19:57,718 across basketball historycan really speak to. across basketball historycan really speak to.
508 00:19:57,761 00:20:01,330 [upbeat jive music playing] [upbeat jive music playing]
509 00:20:02,984 00:20:05,595 - [Male] They really captured the attention - [Male] They really captured the attention
510 00:20:05,639 00:20:07,293 of New York and the New York media, of New York and the New York media,
511 00:20:07,336 00:20:09,686 which at that time, meantcapturing the attention which at that time, meantcapturing the attention
512 00:20:09,730 00:20:11,210 of the college basketball world. of the college basketball world.
513 00:20:12,080 00:20:16,171 [intense dramatic music playing] [intense dramatic music playing]
514 00:20:17,651 00:20:21,176 - [Kenny] The NCA in 1943wasn't the biggest tournament. - [Kenny] The NCA in 1943wasn't the biggest tournament.
515 00:20:21,220 00:20:25,833 - The NCAA didn't havethat appeal, like the NIT. - The NCAA didn't havethat appeal, like the NIT.
516 00:20:25,876 00:20:30,098 The NIT was big, the biggestnational tournament there was. The NIT was big, the biggestnational tournament there was.
517 00:20:30,141 00:20:31,708 - [Sports Announcer] TheNational Invitation Tournament - [Sports Announcer] TheNational Invitation Tournament
518 00:20:31,752 00:20:34,755 brings the nation's top fiveto Madison Square Garden. brings the nation's top fiveto Madison Square Garden.
519 00:20:34,798 00:20:37,714 Teams meet in knock-down,drag-out fights to the finish. Teams meet in knock-down,drag-out fights to the finish.
520 00:20:37,758 00:20:39,716 - [Kenny] After we won the NCAA, - [Kenny] After we won the NCAA,
521 00:20:39,760 00:20:41,283 the New York papers were still the New York papers were still
522 00:20:41,327 00:20:43,459 making a big issue over the fact that making a big issue over the fact that
523 00:20:43,503 00:20:46,897 we were just a small, countryschool, and been lucky. we were just a small, countryschool, and been lucky.
524 00:20:48,290 00:20:50,727 - [Male] The night before theNCA Championship was played, - [Male] The night before theNCA Championship was played,
525 00:20:50,771 00:20:54,209 St. John's won the NationalInvitational Tournament. St. John's won the NationalInvitational Tournament.
526 00:20:54,253 00:20:56,864 - [Male] St. John's didn't just win the NIT, - [Male] St. John's didn't just win the NIT,
527 00:20:56,907 00:20:58,518 they steamrolled teams. they steamrolled teams.
528 00:20:58,561 00:21:00,171 This was a great team. This was a great team.
529 00:21:00,215 00:21:01,782 - [Male] I can still remember the team. - [Male] I can still remember the team.
530 00:21:01,825 00:21:06,395 Boykoff, Gotkin, "Fuzzy" Levane,Baxster, and Al Moschetti. Boykoff, Gotkin, "Fuzzy" Levane,Baxster, and Al Moschetti.
531 00:21:07,875 00:21:10,791 - You had the NCA championand the NIT champion - You had the NCA championand the NIT champion
532 00:21:10,834 00:21:13,141 in town at the same time. in town at the same time.
533 00:21:13,184 00:21:15,448 Ned Irish, I am sure, was thinking, Ned Irish, I am sure, was thinking,
534 00:21:15,491 00:21:17,798 "How do I get these teams together?" "How do I get these teams together?"
535 00:21:17,841 00:21:19,103 - They'd never done that before. - They'd never done that before.
536 00:21:19,147 00:21:22,193 They'd never had the NCAAand the NIT play off. They'd never had the NCAAand the NIT play off.
537 00:21:25,284 00:21:27,373 - [Male] Even then, with the imagination - [Male] Even then, with the imagination
538 00:21:27,416 00:21:29,026 that Wyoming had captured, that Wyoming had captured,
539 00:21:29,070 00:21:30,506 there was still this notion there, there was still this notion there,
540 00:21:30,550 00:21:33,161 "Well, that's nice", butnobody gave them a real chance. "Well, that's nice", butnobody gave them a real chance.
541 00:21:34,815 00:21:36,817 - [Sports Announcer] The basketball season's grand finale, - [Sports Announcer] The basketball season's grand finale,
542 00:21:36,860 00:21:39,254 given greater significance tonight at Madison Square Garden, given greater significance tonight at Madison Square Garden,
543 00:21:39,298 00:21:41,256 and a killer-diller game it is. and a killer-diller game it is.
544 00:21:41,300 00:21:42,518 What hangs on this ballgame What hangs on this ballgame
545 00:21:42,562 00:21:44,912 amounts to a national basketball crown. amounts to a national basketball crown.
546 00:21:44,955 00:21:46,870 - It was the Superbowl of college basketball. - It was the Superbowl of college basketball.
547 00:21:46,914 00:21:48,742 That's what the Red Cross game was. That's what the Red Cross game was.
548 00:21:48,785 00:21:51,484 - They called it "the world'samateur championship". - They called it "the world'samateur championship".
549 00:21:51,527 00:21:52,441 [laughing] [laughing]
550 00:21:52,485 00:21:53,703 - [Sports Announcer] Both teams, - [Sports Announcer] Both teams,
551 00:21:53,747 00:21:55,226 the kingpins of their respected moves. the kingpins of their respected moves.
552 00:21:55,270 00:21:57,577 St. John's rapid fire scoringhere in the past few minutes St. John's rapid fire scoringhere in the past few minutes
553 00:21:57,620 00:21:59,622 has tied up the game. has tied up the game.
554 00:21:59,666 00:22:02,190 From tip off to wind up, it's touch and go. From tip off to wind up, it's touch and go.
555 00:22:02,233 00:22:03,757 Wyoming scores. Wyoming scores.
556 00:22:03,800 00:22:06,063 Seconds later, St.John's Redmen retaliated. Seconds later, St.John's Redmen retaliated.
557 00:22:06,107 00:22:08,283 Boykoff gave us a field goal. Boykoff gave us a field goal.
558 00:22:08,327 00:22:10,894 - With a few seconds leftto go in regulation time, - With a few seconds leftto go in regulation time,
559 00:22:10,938 00:22:12,853 St. John's tied the game, St. John's tied the game,
560 00:22:12,896 00:22:15,769 and Kenny took anin-bounds pass, laid it in and Kenny took anin-bounds pass, laid it in
561 00:22:15,812 00:22:16,857 for what appeared to be for what appeared to be
562 00:22:16,900 00:22:18,815 the winning basket in regulation time. the winning basket in regulation time.
563 00:22:18,859 00:22:20,382 But that became controversial, But that became controversial,
564 00:22:20,426 00:22:23,864 because the referee said, "St.John's had called a timeout". because the referee said, "St.John's had called a timeout".
565 00:22:23,907 00:22:25,735 - [Kenny] I don't think theyhad a right to call a timeout. - [Kenny] I don't think theyhad a right to call a timeout.
566 00:22:25,779 00:22:26,997 How could you? How could you?
567 00:22:27,041 00:22:28,477 When you make a basket, When you make a basket,
568 00:22:28,521 00:22:30,697 the ball actually belongsto the other team. the ball actually belongsto the other team.
569 00:22:30,740 00:22:32,742 - [Male] Madison Square Garden was going crazy. - [Male] Madison Square Garden was going crazy.
570 00:22:32,786 00:22:34,918 They said it was bedlam in there. They said it was bedlam in there.
571 00:22:34,962 00:22:36,920 - [Kenny] The crowd was thinkin'just like I was thinkin', - [Kenny] The crowd was thinkin'just like I was thinkin',
572 00:22:36,964 00:22:39,009 "They can't do that". "They can't do that".
573 00:22:39,053 00:22:40,141 - [Sports Announcer] The game now in deadlock, - [Sports Announcer] The game now in deadlock,
574 00:22:40,184 00:22:41,925 goes into five minutes overtime. goes into five minutes overtime.
575 00:22:43,449 00:22:46,887 Slick, smart, and speedythese shifty sharpshooters. Slick, smart, and speedythese shifty sharpshooters.
576 00:22:46,930 00:22:48,410 A looping pass down court. A looping pass down court.
577 00:22:48,454 00:22:50,673 Moschetti, St. John's,takes a shot at the board, Moschetti, St. John's,takes a shot at the board,
578 00:22:50,717 00:22:51,892 and the Redmen score. and the Redmen score.
579 00:22:53,154 00:22:54,808 Never once tonight are these two quintets Never once tonight are these two quintets
580 00:22:54,851 00:22:56,592 more than four points apart. more than four points apart.
581 00:22:56,636 00:22:58,855 A nip and tuck back from start to finish. A nip and tuck back from start to finish.
582 00:23:00,161 00:23:02,337 Five minutes overtime almost run out. Five minutes overtime almost run out.
583 00:23:04,383 00:23:06,297 Three seconds left to play. Three seconds left to play.
584 00:23:06,341 00:23:08,735 [intense dramatic music playing] [intense dramatic music playing]
585 00:23:08,778 00:23:11,738 [crowd cheering] [scoreboard buzzing] [crowd cheering] [scoreboard buzzing]
586 00:23:11,781 00:23:12,956 - This is the trophy - This is the trophy
587 00:23:13,000 00:23:14,393 that they didn't expect to come to Wyoming. that they didn't expect to come to Wyoming.
588 00:23:14,436 00:23:16,351 It was supposed to stayin Madison Square Garden. It was supposed to stayin Madison Square Garden.
589 00:23:16,395 00:23:17,439 They had to ship it to us. They had to ship it to us.
590 00:23:17,483 00:23:18,875 We couldn't bring it home. We couldn't bring it home.
591 00:23:18,919 00:23:20,921 - [Sports Announcer] The final count 52 to 47, - [Sports Announcer] The final count 52 to 47,
592 00:23:20,964 00:23:23,576 and Wyoming's Cowboys are theundisputed kings of the court. and Wyoming's Cowboys are theundisputed kings of the court.
593 00:23:23,619 00:23:25,665 - It's pretty powerful, isn't it? - It's pretty powerful, isn't it?
594 00:23:25,708 00:23:27,884 For a bunch of country kids from Wyoming. For a bunch of country kids from Wyoming.
595 00:23:27,928 00:23:29,451 None of us had been out of the state None of us had been out of the state
596 00:23:29,495 00:23:31,453 before we went back to play. before we went back to play.
597 00:23:31,497 00:23:33,847 [laughing] [laughing]
598 00:23:34,717 00:23:36,371 - In 1943, a group of Cowboys - In 1943, a group of Cowboys
599 00:23:36,415 00:23:37,851 went into Madison Square Garden, went into Madison Square Garden,
600 00:23:37,894 00:23:39,679 and won a national championship. and won a national championship.
601 00:23:39,722 00:23:41,855 - They had carried our Cowboy banner, - They had carried our Cowboy banner,
602 00:23:41,898 00:23:43,465 and showed 'em who ate the cabbage, and showed 'em who ate the cabbage,
603 00:23:43,509 00:23:45,511 as the old man use to say. as the old man use to say.
604 00:23:45,554 00:23:48,470 - It fueled a sense of Wyoming's identity. - It fueled a sense of Wyoming's identity.
605 00:23:48,514 00:23:52,474 It was in the blood and bone of Wyomingites. It was in the blood and bone of Wyomingites.
606 00:23:52,518 00:23:55,999 Yeah, we too can compete with anybody. Yeah, we too can compete with anybody.
607 00:23:56,043 00:23:59,873 [intense dramatic music playing] [intense dramatic music playing]
608 00:23:59,916 00:24:01,048 - [Male] Little old Wyoming was - [Male] Little old Wyoming was
609 00:24:01,091 00:24:02,615 the best team in the country, the best team in the country,
610 00:24:02,658 00:24:04,312 and nobody can ever say otherwise, and nobody can ever say otherwise,
611 00:24:04,355 00:24:06,793 and Kenny was the head of the snake. and Kenny was the head of the snake.
612 00:24:06,836 00:24:09,448 - I mean, that's a monumental task. - I mean, that's a monumental task.
613 00:24:09,491 00:24:12,799 When you think about what Wyoming did in beating St. John's, When you think about what Wyoming did in beating St. John's,
614 00:24:12,842 00:24:16,933 it would be like a DivisionII or Division III team it would be like a DivisionII or Division III team
615 00:24:16,977 00:24:19,153 being able to navigate March Madness, being able to navigate March Madness,
616 00:24:19,196 00:24:21,547 and win the national championship. and win the national championship.
617 00:24:21,590 00:24:24,811 - [Male] There's no doubt,that for these guys to do that, - [Male] There's no doubt,that for these guys to do that,
618 00:24:24,854 00:24:27,117 it was such a shining moment, it was such a shining moment,
619 00:24:27,161 00:24:29,859 but this was a team that had no tomorrow, but this was a team that had no tomorrow,
620 00:24:31,339 00:24:32,601 because they were all goin' to war. because they were all goin' to war.
621 00:24:32,645 00:24:35,735 [explosions booming] [explosions booming]
622 00:24:38,781 00:24:41,958 [gunshots ringing] [gunshots ringing]
623 00:24:44,004 00:24:47,529 - We are mustering all our resources, - We are mustering all our resources,
624 00:24:47,573 00:24:50,793 manhood, and industry, and wealth, manhood, and industry, and wealth,
625 00:24:52,012 00:24:54,275 to make our nation strong in defense. to make our nation strong in defense.
626 00:24:55,537 00:24:59,541 For recent history proves all too clearly, For recent history proves all too clearly,
627 00:24:59,585 00:25:03,632 I am sorry to say, that only the strong I am sorry to say, that only the strong
628 00:25:03,676 00:25:08,768 may continue to live in freedom, and in peace. may continue to live in freedom, and in peace.
629 00:25:08,811 00:25:10,030 - There was a war goin' on. - There was a war goin' on.
630 00:25:11,553 00:25:12,815 I knew they weren't gonnakeep me here in this country. I knew they weren't gonnakeep me here in this country.
631 00:25:12,859 00:25:14,556 I was gonna be gone. I was gonna be gone.
632 00:25:14,600 00:25:18,386 - [Male] His college career wasinterrupted by World War II. - [Male] His college career wasinterrupted by World War II.
633 00:25:18,429 00:25:22,259 - [Male] Two weeks later, thewhole team was on active duty. - [Male] Two weeks later, thewhole team was on active duty.
634 00:25:22,303 00:25:23,565 - [Male] Kenny was one of the - [Male] Kenny was one of the
635 00:25:23,609 00:25:25,262 best known basketball players in America. best known basketball players in America.
636 00:25:25,306 00:25:29,702 AU All-American, CollegeAll-American, national champion. AU All-American, CollegeAll-American, national champion.
637 00:25:29,745 00:25:31,399 He had everything going for him, He had everything going for him,
638 00:25:31,442 00:25:33,749 in terms of basketball stardom. in terms of basketball stardom.
639 00:25:33,793 00:25:35,403 - [Male] I'm sure all those achievements - [Male] I'm sure all those achievements
640 00:25:35,446 00:25:38,885 were exciting for him, butif you speak with Kenny were exciting for him, butif you speak with Kenny
641 00:25:38,928 00:25:42,105 about his departure frombasketball, he'll tell you about his departure frombasketball, he'll tell you
642 00:25:42,149 00:25:44,455 he had more important things on his mind. he had more important things on his mind.
643 00:25:45,631 00:25:46,980 - [Interviewer] Looking back at it, - [Interviewer] Looking back at it,
644 00:25:47,023 00:25:50,636 if a guy is named the MVPof the tournament in 1943, if a guy is named the MVPof the tournament in 1943,
645 00:25:50,679 00:25:53,377 such a big deal, is it almost a shame such a big deal, is it almost a shame
646 00:25:53,421 00:25:54,814 that you really didn't get to revel that you really didn't get to revel
647 00:25:54,857 00:25:56,467 - Yeah. - in excitement of that? - Yeah. - in excitement of that?
648 00:25:56,511 00:25:58,469 - Yeah, well, I was gone, you know? - Yeah, well, I was gone, you know?
649 00:25:58,513 00:25:59,732 In the Marines. In the Marines.
650 00:25:59,775 00:26:01,516 And basketball was important, and gosh, And basketball was important, and gosh,
651 00:26:01,560 00:26:03,518 we were proud of the fact we did what we did, we were proud of the fact we did what we did,
652 00:26:03,562 00:26:06,390 but I was thinkin' about leavin' my family, but I was thinkin' about leavin' my family,
653 00:26:06,434 00:26:07,827 and I was gonna be married, and I was gonna be married,
654 00:26:07,870 00:26:09,611 and I was trying to convince her and I was trying to convince her
655 00:26:09,655 00:26:10,830 we shouldn't get married before I, we shouldn't get married before I,
656 00:26:10,873 00:26:12,919 until I come back from the Marine Corps, until I come back from the Marine Corps,
657 00:26:12,962 00:26:14,921 'cause to be honest with ya,I didn't expect to come back. 'cause to be honest with ya,I didn't expect to come back.
658 00:26:14,964 00:26:16,139 Hell, that's the truth. Hell, that's the truth.
659 00:26:17,663 00:26:19,926 - Marilynne was pregnantwhen Kenny was shipped out. - Marilynne was pregnantwhen Kenny was shipped out.
660 00:26:21,841 00:26:25,453 In those days, widowsfrequently remained widows. In those days, widowsfrequently remained widows.
661 00:26:25,496 00:26:26,933 Out of loyalty to their marriage vows Out of loyalty to their marriage vows
662 00:26:26,976 00:26:28,717 they would never marry again. they would never marry again.
663 00:26:29,849 00:26:31,154 But it was Marilynne who said, But it was Marilynne who said,
664 00:26:31,198 00:26:34,114 "Nope, we're gonna get married", so they did. "Nope, we're gonna get married", so they did.
665 00:26:34,157 00:26:35,855 She defied all the best advice, and said, She defied all the best advice, and said,
666 00:26:35,898 00:26:37,117 "I wanna marry you". "I wanna marry you".
667 00:26:37,160 00:26:39,336 So that showed also how much she loved him. So that showed also how much she loved him.
668 00:26:40,903 00:26:45,647 Kenny was given command of 40Marines on this troop carrier. Kenny was given command of 40Marines on this troop carrier.
669 00:26:45,691 00:26:47,388 - [Kenny] Our job was ship security, - [Kenny] Our job was ship security,
670 00:26:47,431 00:26:49,390 and we had to go into the island sometimes, and we had to go into the island sometimes,
671 00:26:49,433 00:26:51,697 and they'd have tent campsset up with the wounded, and they'd have tent campsset up with the wounded,
672 00:26:51,740 00:26:54,787 and we'd have to go in andcarry 'em aboard this ship. and we'd have to go in andcarry 'em aboard this ship.
673 00:26:54,830 00:26:56,789 I had so many buddiesthat I'd lost in the war, I had so many buddiesthat I'd lost in the war,
674 00:26:56,832 00:26:59,269 and in fact, if they didn'tget shot up or killed, and in fact, if they didn'tget shot up or killed,
675 00:26:59,313 00:27:01,141 they had malaria. they had malaria.
676 00:27:01,184 00:27:04,666 [plane engine buzzing] [plane engine buzzing]
677 00:27:04,710 00:27:06,233 - [Bill] I think the Marines recognized - [Bill] I think the Marines recognized
678 00:27:06,276 00:27:08,670 leadership skills in him from a very early time, leadership skills in him from a very early time,
679 00:27:08,714 00:27:10,672 and when he was ready to muster out, and when he was ready to muster out,
680 00:27:10,716 00:27:12,674 he was a Captain at that point. he was a Captain at that point.
681 00:27:12,718 00:27:16,199 - You joined the MarineCorp, and two years later, - You joined the MarineCorp, and two years later,
682 00:27:16,243 00:27:19,638 the war is over with, and you're a Captain. the war is over with, and you're a Captain.
683 00:27:19,681 00:27:22,249 You've done a lot of things to get there. You've done a lot of things to get there.
684 00:27:22,292 00:27:24,468 - Once you've been a Marine,you're always a Marine, - Once you've been a Marine,you're always a Marine,
685 00:27:24,512 00:27:25,861 and you respect the Marines, and you respect the Marines,
686 00:27:25,905 00:27:29,473 because you know what it stands for, yeah. because you know what it stands for, yeah.
687 00:27:29,517 00:27:33,695 [crowd cheering] [horn tooting] [crowd cheering] [horn tooting]
688 00:27:33,739 00:27:35,305 - [Sports Announcer] For Wyoming, at forward, - [Sports Announcer] For Wyoming, at forward,
689 00:27:35,349 00:27:38,744 a 6'5 junior from San Antonio, Texas, a 6'5 junior from San Antonio, Texas,
690 00:27:38,787 00:27:41,921 number 34, Fennis Dembo. number 34, Fennis Dembo.
691 00:27:41,964 00:27:44,924 - I know when I'm in the presence of greatness. - I know when I'm in the presence of greatness.
692 00:27:44,967 00:27:46,055 They say that's Kenny Sailors. They say that's Kenny Sailors.
693 00:27:46,099 00:27:48,144 I said, "Ah, I know who he is". I said, "Ah, I know who he is".
694 00:27:48,188 00:27:49,755 "I know what he represents." "I know what he represents."
695 00:27:51,974 00:27:54,803 What you're doin' as a kidthat's 18, 19-years-old, What you're doin' as a kidthat's 18, 19-years-old,
696 00:27:54,847 00:27:57,763 you're readin' about allthese great people, right? you're readin' about allthese great people, right?
697 00:27:57,806 00:27:59,286 You were tryin' to be better than 'em. You were tryin' to be better than 'em.
698 00:27:59,329 00:28:00,940 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
699 00:28:00,983 00:28:02,550 - [Sports Announcer] Saved his best game - [Sports Announcer] Saved his best game
700 00:28:02,593 00:28:03,725 for the most importantgame thus far of the year. for the most importantgame thus far of the year.
701 00:28:03,769 00:28:06,162 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
702 00:28:06,206 00:28:09,209 - How many basketballplayers we can think about - How many basketballplayers we can think about
703 00:28:09,252 00:28:12,038 actually did something toforever change the game? actually did something toforever change the game?
704 00:28:12,081 00:28:12,865 Forever? Forever?
705 00:28:15,041 00:28:17,826 - While I was in the PacificI never saw a basketball. - While I was in the PacificI never saw a basketball.
706 00:28:17,870 00:28:20,742 We never could get any news on it either. We never could get any news on it either.
707 00:28:20,786 00:28:22,570 We didn't get much of anything. We didn't get much of anything.
708 00:28:22,613 00:28:27,096 When I came back, why, theconference had a special ruling. When I came back, why, theconference had a special ruling.
709 00:28:27,140 00:28:28,837 For us old boys who had been in the war For us old boys who had been in the war
710 00:28:28,881 00:28:30,709 could come back and play, and we did. could come back and play, and we did.
711 00:28:30,752 00:28:32,232 - [Male] When Kenny came back to the states - [Male] When Kenny came back to the states
712 00:28:32,275 00:28:33,799 at the end of the war, at the end of the war,
713 00:28:33,842 00:28:37,846 it gave him a chance toreally work on the jump shot, it gave him a chance toreally work on the jump shot,
714 00:28:37,890 00:28:41,763 and really concentrate on itsflaws and its opportunities. and really concentrate on itsflaws and its opportunities.
715 00:28:41,807 00:28:43,025 - It took years. - It took years.
716 00:28:43,069 00:28:45,201 It didn't happen overnightto get my jump shot. It didn't happen overnightto get my jump shot.
717 00:28:45,245 00:28:47,247 That didn't happen right away. That didn't happen right away.
718 00:28:47,290 00:28:49,336 - The biggest technical problem - The biggest technical problem
719 00:28:49,379 00:28:51,991 was the idea of jumping straight up. was the idea of jumping straight up.
720 00:28:52,034 00:28:54,210 - It took me longer todevelop that than anything, - It took me longer todevelop that than anything,
721 00:28:54,254 00:28:56,517 'cause I'm dribblin' fast sometimes, 'cause I'm dribblin' fast sometimes,
722 00:28:56,560 00:28:59,259 and you have to plant, and jump. and you have to plant, and jump.
723 00:28:59,302 00:29:00,782 - So a lot of times, Ken would jump, - So a lot of times, Ken would jump,
724 00:29:00,826 00:29:02,915 and he would drift into the player, and he would drift into the player,
725 00:29:02,958 00:29:04,612 and he would be called for the foul. and he would be called for the foul.
726 00:29:04,655 00:29:06,135 - And they soon learned, you know, - And they soon learned, you know,
727 00:29:06,179 00:29:08,747 to get that offense foul tostay put, and let him hit ya. to get that offense foul tostay put, and let him hit ya.
728 00:29:09,965 00:29:12,098 Coaches had me pegged all over the country, Coaches had me pegged all over the country,
729 00:29:13,099 00:29:14,796 so I had to develop a technique so I had to develop a technique
730 00:29:14,840 00:29:17,277 where I actually stopped my forward motion, where I actually stopped my forward motion,
731 00:29:17,320 00:29:18,539 and went straight up. and went straight up.
732 00:29:19,758 00:29:21,716 - [Male] In January, 1946, Kenny came back to - [Male] In January, 1946, Kenny came back to
733 00:29:21,760 00:29:24,066 Madison Square Garden and played LIU, Madison Square Garden and played LIU,
734 00:29:25,633 00:29:28,810 and on that night, Kenny's jumpshot would become legendary. and on that night, Kenny's jumpshot would become legendary.
735 00:29:28,854 00:29:31,465 [booming] [booming]
736 00:29:31,508 00:29:33,902 - Oh God, almighty. [booming] - Oh God, almighty. [booming]
737 00:29:33,946 00:29:34,773 Wow! Wow!
738 00:29:36,296 00:29:37,297 He's up there. He's up there.
739 00:29:38,559 00:29:39,516 - [Tim] Well, first of all, he's really - [Tim] Well, first of all, he's really
740 00:29:39,560 00:29:40,604 gettin' off the ground. - Yeah. gettin' off the ground. - Yeah.
741 00:29:40,648 00:29:41,780 - That's got some serious hops. - That's got some serious hops.
742 00:29:41,823 00:29:42,911 So not only was he jumping, So not only was he jumping,
743 00:29:42,955 00:29:44,217 he was really getting off the floor, he was really getting off the floor,
744 00:29:44,260 00:29:45,653 so he must have really looked like a freak. so he must have really looked like a freak.
745 00:29:45,696 00:29:46,872 - Man, he up. - Man, he up.
746 00:29:46,915 00:29:48,656 [stuttering] [stuttering]
747 00:29:48,699 00:29:50,310 He was a white guy, man, gettin' up that high He was a white guy, man, gettin' up that high
748 00:29:50,353 00:29:52,268 off the floor on the jump shot? off the floor on the jump shot?
749 00:29:52,312 00:29:53,574 Give me a break. Give me a break.
750 00:29:53,617 00:29:56,838 - Now, that's a piece of art right there. - Now, that's a piece of art right there.
751 00:29:56,882 00:29:57,926 It's beautiful. It's beautiful.
752 00:29:59,188 00:30:01,800 - [Male] His off-hand is lightly on the ball, - [Male] His off-hand is lightly on the ball,
753 00:30:01,843 00:30:03,845 elbow looks pointed straight at, you know, elbow looks pointed straight at, you know,
754 00:30:03,889 00:30:05,847 that directs the shot. that directs the shot.
755 00:30:05,891 00:30:08,110 - He's taken the ball straight up. - He's taken the ball straight up.
756 00:30:08,154 00:30:13,159 His eyes are focused, not onthe ball, but on a bucket. His eyes are focused, not onthe ball, but on a bucket.
757 00:30:15,291 00:30:18,729 - That is a perfect image of how I feel - That is a perfect image of how I feel
758 00:30:18,773 00:30:20,470 every time I shoot a jump shot. every time I shoot a jump shot.
759 00:30:21,776 00:30:23,647 - [Male] I think there areeight guys in that picture, - [Male] I think there areeight guys in that picture,
760 00:30:23,691 00:30:26,607 and there are 14 feet on the ground, and there are 14 feet on the ground,
761 00:30:26,650 00:30:28,087 and there are two feet off the ground, and there are two feet off the ground,
762 00:30:28,130 00:30:29,740 but it's not a gimmick. but it's not a gimmick.
763 00:30:29,784 00:30:31,699 - [Male] The other defenders,they're kind of looking at, - [Male] The other defenders,they're kind of looking at,
764 00:30:31,742 00:30:33,962 like they're watching a different sport almost. like they're watching a different sport almost.
765 00:30:34,006 00:30:37,574 - [Male] The guy defendingKenny is in an athletic stance, - [Male] The guy defendingKenny is in an athletic stance,
766 00:30:37,618 00:30:40,273 but it never occurred to him to jump. but it never occurred to him to jump.
767 00:30:40,316 00:30:43,624 - That show you how groundedthe game was at that time, - That show you how groundedthe game was at that time,
768 00:30:43,667 00:30:45,104 and where he was takin' it. and where he was takin' it.
769 00:30:46,670 00:30:48,020 To flight. To flight.
770 00:30:48,063 00:30:50,413 - Think of the defender,a guy jumps up in the air. - Think of the defender,a guy jumps up in the air.
771 00:30:50,457 00:30:51,762 - That's pretty cool. - That's pretty cool.
772 00:30:51,806 00:30:52,807 A visionary, man. A visionary, man.
773 00:30:52,851 00:30:53,895 Way ahead of his time. Way ahead of his time.
774 00:30:54,940 00:30:56,115 - I've never seen this photo before, - I've never seen this photo before,
775 00:30:56,158 00:30:57,986 but it's absolutely phenomenal. but it's absolutely phenomenal.
776 00:30:59,640 00:31:01,163 Every kid should see this. Every kid should see this.
777 00:31:01,207 00:31:03,078 - I was expecting it to be somewhat different. - I was expecting it to be somewhat different.
778 00:31:03,122 00:31:06,603 Like, sure it was a jump shotof its time, but it's evolved. Like, sure it was a jump shotof its time, but it's evolved.
779 00:31:06,647 00:31:07,909 It hasn't evolved. It hasn't evolved.
780 00:31:07,953 00:31:09,737 Kenny nailed it in the '40s. Kenny nailed it in the '40s.
781 00:31:09,780 00:31:12,871 - I mean, it really looks likea Russel Westbrook photo now, - I mean, it really looks likea Russel Westbrook photo now,
782 00:31:12,914 00:31:16,875 the way he elevates, andstops on a dime on the break. the way he elevates, andstops on a dime on the break.
783 00:31:16,918 00:31:18,267 I mean, that's amazing. I mean, that's amazing.
784 00:31:18,311 00:31:20,748 - That is as good a form - That is as good a form
785 00:31:20,791 00:31:22,881 as I've ever seen with the jump shot. as I've ever seen with the jump shot.
786 00:31:22,924 00:31:26,406 I mean, that is an unbelievable picture. I mean, that is an unbelievable picture.
787 00:31:26,449 00:31:28,408 I want a copy of it. I want a copy of it.
788 00:31:28,451 00:31:30,410 [basketball thudding] [low chattering] [basketball thudding] [low chattering]
789 00:31:30,453 00:31:31,759 [ball swooshing in net] [ball swooshing in net]
790 00:31:31,802 00:31:33,065 [laughing] [laughing]
791 00:31:33,108 00:31:34,936 [speaking faintly] [speaking faintly]
792 00:31:34,980 00:31:38,113 [shoes squeaking on floor] [shoes squeaking on floor]
793 00:31:38,157 00:31:39,898 - I'm a Millennial, so I just thought - I'm a Millennial, so I just thought
794 00:31:39,941 00:31:41,116 the jump shot just appeared. the jump shot just appeared.
795 00:31:41,160 00:31:43,205 It was just a part of the game. It was just a part of the game.
796 00:31:43,249 00:31:47,644 [somber instrumental music playing] [somber instrumental music playing]
797 00:31:49,690 00:31:52,606 It's important, 'cause I knowthe work that goes into this. It's important, 'cause I knowthe work that goes into this.
798 00:31:52,649 00:31:55,217 It's hard to make it tothe top of your profession, It's hard to make it tothe top of your profession,
799 00:31:55,261 00:31:56,653 or to the top of anything. or to the top of anything.
800 00:31:57,916 00:32:00,440 Pioneers, they don'tusually get a lot of credit, Pioneers, they don'tusually get a lot of credit,
801 00:32:00,483 00:32:03,051 because not a lot of people tend to go back, because not a lot of people tend to go back,
802 00:32:03,095 00:32:05,967 and go through the journey ofbasketball when they should. and go through the journey ofbasketball when they should.
803 00:32:06,011 00:32:07,490 And I think stories like this And I think stories like this
804 00:32:07,534 00:32:09,144 is gonna have people startin' to is gonna have people startin' to
805 00:32:09,188 00:32:11,320 just puttin' the pieces together. just puttin' the pieces together.
806 00:32:11,364 00:32:14,149 That shot is what the game is centered around. That shot is what the game is centered around.
807 00:32:14,193 00:32:15,803 You know, it's around the jump shot, You know, it's around the jump shot,
808 00:32:15,846 00:32:17,761 and I just want people to know, man, and I just want people to know, man,
809 00:32:17,805 00:32:19,328 where this stuff comes from, where this stuff comes from,
810 00:32:19,372 00:32:21,635 'cause it's not the guys yousee on the NBA court right now. 'cause it's not the guys yousee on the NBA court right now.
811 00:32:21,678 00:32:23,550 We didn't create this stuff. We didn't create this stuff.
812 00:32:23,593 00:32:25,291 If you love the game so much, If you love the game so much,
813 00:32:25,334 00:32:26,683 you will wanna see where it comes from, you will wanna see where it comes from,
814 00:32:26,727 00:32:28,729 and where it's goin', and Kenny is a guy and where it's goin', and Kenny is a guy
815 00:32:28,772 00:32:31,862 that stuck that flag in the ground, that stuck that flag in the ground,
816 00:32:31,906 00:32:34,865 and let it be known that thisgame is gonna be here forever, and let it be known that thisgame is gonna be here forever,
817 00:32:34,909 00:32:38,739 and I can't thank him enough for that. and I can't thank him enough for that.
818 00:32:38,782 00:32:42,482 [somber instrumental music playing] [somber instrumental music playing]
819 00:32:42,525 00:32:45,964 [basketball thudding] [basketball thudding]
820 00:32:46,007 00:32:47,182 [basketball goal clanking] [basketball goal clanking]
821 00:32:47,226 00:32:50,838 [ball thudding] - My old shoulders, [ball thudding] - My old shoulders,
822 00:32:50,881 00:32:54,407 boy, I couldn't shoot a three-point shot for boy, I couldn't shoot a three-point shot for
823 00:32:54,450 00:32:55,930 love or money. love or money.
824 00:32:55,974 00:32:58,889 Mostly, it was my speed andmy quickness with the dribble Mostly, it was my speed andmy quickness with the dribble
825 00:32:58,933 00:33:02,502 is what got me by my man, I guess. is what got me by my man, I guess.
826 00:33:02,545 00:33:04,199 I dribbled up to him, like this, I dribbled up to him, like this,
827 00:33:04,243 00:33:06,636 and then I give the ball this here. and then I give the ball this here.
828 00:33:06,680 00:33:08,334 I can't keep a balance even. I can't keep a balance even.
829 00:33:08,377 00:33:10,553 I give the ball this kind of a motion. I give the ball this kind of a motion.
830 00:33:10,597 00:33:13,861 He gets a rockin', and he'sdown here rockin' with me, He gets a rockin', and he'sdown here rockin' with me,
831 00:33:13,904 00:33:17,604 I jump, I jump and shoot the ball. I jump, I jump and shoot the ball.
832 00:33:17,647 00:33:18,909 It's evidently a pretty good shot. It's evidently a pretty good shot.
833 00:33:18,953 00:33:20,389 There's a lot of guys shootin' it today. There's a lot of guys shootin' it today.
834 00:33:20,433 00:33:22,087 I oughta sue the NBA I oughta sue the NBA
835 00:33:23,697 00:33:25,916 for usin' my shot without megettin' anything out of it. for usin' my shot without megettin' anything out of it.
836 00:33:25,960 00:33:27,396 Shouldn't they? Shouldn't they?
837 00:33:27,440 00:33:29,355 If I good lawyer, I'd do that. If I good lawyer, I'd do that.
838 00:33:30,225 00:33:32,836 Sue 'em all for 5,000. Sue 'em all for 5,000.
839 00:33:33,750 00:33:35,883 [laughing] [laughing]
840 00:33:35,926 00:33:37,798 I could make a little money, could I? I could make a little money, could I?
841 00:33:37,841 00:33:39,321 Yeah. Yeah.
842 00:33:39,365 00:33:41,715 Gosh, I was nearly 27-years-oldwhen I went into the NBA. Gosh, I was nearly 27-years-oldwhen I went into the NBA.
843 00:33:41,758 00:33:44,283 You know, these kids are goin'in today when they're 19. You know, these kids are goin'in today when they're 19.
844 00:33:44,326 00:33:45,936 [laughing] [laughing]
845 00:33:45,980 00:33:47,808 You know, they make millions. You know, they make millions.
846 00:33:47,851 00:33:48,722 I didn't make nothing. I didn't make nothing.
847 00:33:48,765 00:33:49,940 Man, they really paid me. Man, they really paid me.
848 00:33:49,984 00:33:53,683 I made 75 hundred dollars for the season. I made 75 hundred dollars for the season.
849 00:33:53,727 00:33:56,121 That was big money in those days. That was big money in those days.
850 00:33:56,164 00:33:58,558 The NBA started up in 1946. The NBA started up in 1946.
851 00:33:58,601 00:34:00,821 - The NBA was in its infancy then. - The NBA was in its infancy then.
852 00:34:00,864 00:34:03,998 There were eight teams in the NBA. There were eight teams in the NBA.
853 00:34:04,042 00:34:07,219 - [Male] This game has nothad that long of a history. - [Male] This game has nothad that long of a history.
854 00:34:07,262 00:34:08,437 - [Male] Pro-basketball, at the time, - [Male] Pro-basketball, at the time,
855 00:34:08,481 00:34:11,092 was hardly in the public conscience at all. was hardly in the public conscience at all.
856 00:34:11,136 00:34:13,181 Baseball, football, boxing dominated. Baseball, football, boxing dominated.
857 00:34:13,225 00:34:15,096 They were a lot bigger than basketball. They were a lot bigger than basketball.
858 00:34:15,140 00:34:17,794 - The pros didn't have much oomph behind 'em, - The pros didn't have much oomph behind 'em,
859 00:34:17,838 00:34:21,276 because it was smallcities against big cities, because it was smallcities against big cities,
860 00:34:21,320 00:34:24,062 and there was littleemotional rooting interest. and there was littleemotional rooting interest.
861 00:34:24,105 00:34:26,629 - Honestly, I coached a high school game - Honestly, I coached a high school game
862 00:34:26,673 00:34:28,414 in Madison Square Garden, in Madison Square Garden,
863 00:34:28,457 00:34:30,720 and we had more people than the the pros. and we had more people than the the pros.
864 00:34:30,764 00:34:33,245 - These franchises would go for a while, - These franchises would go for a while,
865 00:34:33,288 00:34:35,551 and they'd fold like a card table. and they'd fold like a card table.
866 00:34:35,595 00:34:36,857 - [Male] There's a handful of teams - [Male] There's a handful of teams
867 00:34:36,900 00:34:38,206 with a handful of players, with a handful of players,
868 00:34:38,250 00:34:40,556 and there's a complete randomness and there's a complete randomness
869 00:34:40,600 00:34:43,690 to whether you're in a goodsituation, or a bad situation. to whether you're in a goodsituation, or a bad situation.
870 00:34:43,733 00:34:47,128 In Kenny's case, he reallywas in several bad situations. In Kenny's case, he reallywas in several bad situations.
871 00:34:47,172 00:34:48,695 - [Male] Kenny was moved around quite a bit, - [Male] Kenny was moved around quite a bit,
872 00:34:48,738 00:34:50,740 and it wasn't because he was a poor player. and it wasn't because he was a poor player.
873 00:34:50,784 00:34:52,916 It was because at least three of those teams, It was because at least three of those teams,
874 00:34:52,960 00:34:54,831 I can think of, collapsed financially. I can think of, collapsed financially.
875 00:34:54,875 00:34:55,745 They went out of business. They went out of business.
876 00:34:55,789 00:34:56,790 They were disbanded. They were disbanded.
877 00:34:56,833 00:34:58,052 Players were thrown into a lottery, Players were thrown into a lottery,
878 00:34:58,096 00:34:59,749 and picked by other teams. and picked by other teams.
879 00:34:59,793 00:35:01,099 - Not knowin' where you're gonna live, - Not knowin' where you're gonna live,
880 00:35:01,142 00:35:03,884 not knowin' when thepaycheck was gonna come in, not knowin' when thepaycheck was gonna come in,
881 00:35:03,927 00:35:06,147 just changin' scenery over,and over, and over again, just changin' scenery over,and over, and over again,
882 00:35:06,191 00:35:07,801 yeah, that'd be tough, man. yeah, that'd be tough, man.
883 00:35:07,844 00:35:09,281 - It's hard to imagine the barriers - It's hard to imagine the barriers
884 00:35:09,324 00:35:10,499 these guys had to get through these guys had to get through
885 00:35:10,543 00:35:12,284 just so people could see them play. just so people could see them play.
886 00:35:12,327 00:35:13,763 - It's just crazy to think about it. - It's just crazy to think about it.
887 00:35:13,807 00:35:15,809 I'm definitely blessed to beplayin' the game right now, I'm definitely blessed to beplayin' the game right now,
888 00:35:15,852 00:35:17,463 but you have a huge amount of respect but you have a huge amount of respect
889 00:35:17,506 00:35:19,291 for the people that have propelled the game for the people that have propelled the game
890 00:35:19,334 00:35:20,248 to make it what it is. to make it what it is.
891 00:35:20,292 00:35:21,554 - We get on planes, - We get on planes,
892 00:35:21,597 00:35:23,556 and play on ESPN and TNT like it's nothin', and play on ESPN and TNT like it's nothin',
893 00:35:23,599 00:35:26,602 but these guys, like theypaved the way for us. but these guys, like theypaved the way for us.
894 00:35:26,646 00:35:30,302 - Every major bit of progress - Every major bit of progress
895 00:35:30,345 00:35:31,825 in the history of most sports in the history of most sports
896 00:35:31,868 00:35:35,350 is going to be looked at as threatening. is going to be looked at as threatening.
897 00:35:35,394 00:35:40,007 If you look at George Mikan,Bob Pettit, Bill Russell, If you look at George Mikan,Bob Pettit, Bill Russell,
898 00:35:40,050 00:35:43,532 Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
899 00:35:43,576 00:35:46,753 rules were made to slow them down. rules were made to slow them down.
900 00:35:46,796 00:35:48,668 There was this fear that they were gonna There was this fear that they were gonna
901 00:35:48,711 00:35:52,367 take over the game, and skewthe competitive advantage, take over the game, and skewthe competitive advantage,
902 00:35:52,411 00:35:56,284 and there's no doubt thatthe jump shot fits into that. and there's no doubt thatthe jump shot fits into that.
903 00:35:56,328 00:35:58,199 - Jimmy Breslin, the famous, you know, - Jimmy Breslin, the famous, you know,
904 00:35:58,243 00:35:59,505 Pulitzer Prize winning columnist, Pulitzer Prize winning columnist,
905 00:35:59,548 00:36:01,985 he was just a sports writer back then, he was just a sports writer back then,
906 00:36:02,029 00:36:03,422 and he wrote this long column and he wrote this long column
907 00:36:03,465 00:36:06,468 on how the jump shot had ruined basketball, on how the jump shot had ruined basketball,
908 00:36:06,512 00:36:08,427 because you have one guywho can just take the ball, because you have one guywho can just take the ball,
909 00:36:08,470 00:36:10,255 either shoot right away off the pass, either shoot right away off the pass,
910 00:36:10,298 00:36:11,952 or take a couple dribbles, or take a couple dribbles,
911 00:36:11,995 00:36:13,910 and just take his guy, and rise up. and just take his guy, and rise up.
912 00:36:13,954 00:36:17,958 - Old school coaches, firstof all, didn't believe in it, - Old school coaches, firstof all, didn't believe in it,
913 00:36:18,001 00:36:20,787 and then once people started to have success, and then once people started to have success,
914 00:36:20,830 00:36:22,789 the idea that this is not basketball. the idea that this is not basketball.
915 00:36:22,832 00:36:26,836 [ball thudding] [shoes squeaking] [ball thudding] [shoes squeaking]
916 00:36:26,880 00:36:29,796 - This first coach I had,"Dutch" Dehnert was his name, - This first coach I had,"Dutch" Dehnert was his name,
917 00:36:29,839 00:36:31,711 he had the coaching job there at Cleveland he had the coaching job there at Cleveland
918 00:36:31,754 00:36:33,278 my first year in the NBA. my first year in the NBA.
919 00:36:34,496 00:36:36,411 A couple days before the season got underway, A couple days before the season got underway,
920 00:36:36,455 00:36:39,240 I was shootin' jump shotsoff of my buddy there. I was shootin' jump shotsoff of my buddy there.
921 00:36:39,284 00:36:42,722 [intense music playing] [intense music playing]
922 00:36:43,723 00:36:44,898 Dutch came up. Dutch came up.
923 00:36:44,941 00:36:46,116 He said to me, "Sailors", he said, He said to me, "Sailors", he said,
924 00:36:46,160 00:36:48,989 "Where'd you get that leap and one-hander?" "Where'd you get that leap and one-hander?"
925 00:36:49,032 00:36:50,338 I said, "I don't know, Dutch". I said, "I don't know, Dutch".
926 00:36:50,382 00:36:51,861 I said, "I had that quite a while". I said, "I had that quite a while".
927 00:36:51,905 00:36:55,648 I said, "That's what keeps me in the game". I said, "That's what keeps me in the game".
928 00:36:55,691 00:36:58,825 "You just never go in thisleague with a shot like that." "You just never go in thisleague with a shot like that."
929 00:36:58,868 00:36:59,956 He meant it. He meant it.
930 00:37:00,000 00:37:01,741 I didn't play much to start with at all. I didn't play much to start with at all.
931 00:37:01,784 00:37:03,699 He says, "I'll show you how to shoot He says, "I'll show you how to shoot
932 00:37:03,743 00:37:06,789 a good two-handed set shot",and he says, "That dribble", a good two-handed set shot",and he says, "That dribble",
933 00:37:06,833 00:37:08,878 he says, "We don't dribble in this league". he says, "We don't dribble in this league".
934 00:37:08,922 00:37:10,880 He says, "We pass the ball up the court". He says, "We pass the ball up the court".
935 00:37:12,230 00:37:15,624 And I said, "Well, now that you take And I said, "Well, now that you take
936 00:37:15,668 00:37:16,973 my jump shot and my dribble away, my jump shot and my dribble away,
937 00:37:17,017 00:37:18,627 you might as well sell me, get rid of me". you might as well sell me, get rid of me".
938 00:37:18,671 00:37:20,673 "I aint gonna help you any." "I aint gonna help you any."
939 00:37:20,716 00:37:21,717 - You know what your strengths are. - You know what your strengths are.
940 00:37:21,761 00:37:22,936 You know what you do well. You know what you do well.
941 00:37:22,979 00:37:24,372 You know who you are as a basketball player, You know who you are as a basketball player,
942 00:37:24,416 00:37:27,070 and somebody's telling youyou can't do those things, and somebody's telling youyou can't do those things,
943 00:37:27,114 00:37:29,290 if I walked into practice,and my coach told me if I walked into practice,and my coach told me
944 00:37:29,334 00:37:30,639 I couldn't shoot a three, I couldn't shoot a three,
945 00:37:30,683 00:37:32,859 or I couldn't shoot from this spot on the floor, or I couldn't shoot from this spot on the floor,
946 00:37:34,382 00:37:37,342 I don't know if I would be in the league, I don't know if I would be in the league,
947 00:37:37,385 00:37:38,691 that's for sure. that's for sure.
948 00:37:38,734 00:37:40,083 - This is the way they did it in those days. - This is the way they did it in those days.
949 00:37:40,127 00:37:42,129 They sent Dutch on the road scoutin'. They sent Dutch on the road scoutin'.
950 00:37:42,172 00:37:43,739 [chuckling] [chuckling]
951 00:37:43,783 00:37:45,306 You know, I don't know whatold Dutch could scout for, You know, I don't know whatold Dutch could scout for,
952 00:37:45,350 00:37:47,830 but when we started to do much better, but when we started to do much better,
953 00:37:47,874 00:37:50,964 the general manager, hestarted me right off the bat, the general manager, hestarted me right off the bat,
954 00:37:51,007 00:37:52,270 and I was the point guard. and I was the point guard.
955 00:37:52,313 00:37:53,096 I brought the ball up. I brought the ball up.
956 00:37:53,140 00:37:54,359 I dribbled it up. I dribbled it up.
957 00:37:54,402 00:37:56,143 I didn't pass it to anybody. I didn't pass it to anybody.
958 00:37:56,186 00:37:58,711 And he said the same thingmy old college coach said, And he said the same thingmy old college coach said,
959 00:37:58,754 00:38:00,843 "Give the ball to Sailors,and get away from him". "Give the ball to Sailors,and get away from him".
960 00:38:00,887 00:38:02,802 "Get up court." "Get up court."
961 00:38:02,845 00:38:04,804 - [Male] People knew thatKenny was the ball player, - [Male] People knew thatKenny was the ball player,
962 00:38:04,847 00:38:07,850 and I think he brought in a lot of crowds too. and I think he brought in a lot of crowds too.
963 00:38:07,894 00:38:11,332 - [Male] If you look at hisstatistics, his points per game, - [Male] If you look at hisstatistics, his points per game,
964 00:38:11,376 00:38:13,421 and the number of times he ranked in and the number of times he ranked in
965 00:38:13,465 00:38:15,858 the top 10 in various categories, the top 10 in various categories,
966 00:38:15,902 00:38:17,773 he had a verydistinguished pro career, he had a verydistinguished pro career,
967 00:38:17,817 00:38:19,732 but he never played for a winning team. but he never played for a winning team.
968 00:38:21,429 00:38:22,909 - What gets lost sometimes, - What gets lost sometimes,
969 00:38:22,952 00:38:24,302 is when people are so brilliant is when people are so brilliant
970 00:38:24,345 00:38:26,086 at something like a jump shot, at something like a jump shot,
971 00:38:26,129 00:38:28,654 they're overshadowed by their own greatness, they're overshadowed by their own greatness,
972 00:38:28,697 00:38:30,786 and I didn't know that Kenny was and I didn't know that Kenny was
973 00:38:30,830 00:38:32,222 such a brilliant ball handler. such a brilliant ball handler.
974 00:38:32,266 00:38:36,575 - My dribble, I used it realeffectively in my scoring. - My dribble, I used it realeffectively in my scoring.
975 00:38:36,618 00:38:38,794 By just dribbling up to a man, By just dribbling up to a man,
976 00:38:38,838 00:38:41,144 and just usin' a change of pace, and then boo, and just usin' a change of pace, and then boo,
977 00:38:41,188 00:38:42,842 take off just like that. take off just like that.
978 00:38:42,885 00:38:46,062 - Okay, Kenny, break 'em down, then. - Okay, Kenny, break 'em down, then.
979 00:38:46,106 00:38:48,238 With a crossover. With a crossover.
980 00:38:48,282 00:38:49,805 Impressive. Impressive.
981 00:38:49,849 00:38:51,590 Especially watching histeammates shoot afterwards, Especially watching histeammates shoot afterwards,
982 00:38:51,633 00:38:53,548 and they're just standin' there. and they're just standin' there.
983 00:38:53,592 00:38:55,376 - I don't know who invented the floater, - I don't know who invented the floater,
984 00:38:55,420 00:38:56,943 [chuckling] [chuckling]
985 00:38:56,986 00:38:58,597 but Kenny's got it down too. but Kenny's got it down too.
986 00:38:58,640 00:39:00,338 - Big thing the jump shot did for me, - Big thing the jump shot did for me,
987 00:39:00,381 00:39:03,602 is it give me that opportunityto drive to the basket. is it give me that opportunityto drive to the basket.
988 00:39:03,645 00:39:05,952 - If everybody collapsed,he could pass it. - If everybody collapsed,he could pass it.
989 00:39:05,995 00:39:09,738 If everybody stayed, hecould just rise up and shoot. If everybody stayed, hecould just rise up and shoot.
990 00:39:09,782 00:39:11,436 - You go back and readsome of these old articles, - You go back and readsome of these old articles,
991 00:39:11,479 00:39:13,699 and you read about his wizardry as a passer, and you read about his wizardry as a passer,
992 00:39:13,742 00:39:16,397 he was the most adroit dribblerin the basketball annals. he was the most adroit dribblerin the basketball annals.
993 00:39:16,441 00:39:18,878 You hear all the, you know,the stately talk of the day. You hear all the, you know,the stately talk of the day.
994 00:39:18,921 00:39:23,361 [upbeat instrumental music playing] [upbeat instrumental music playing]
995 00:39:24,536 00:39:26,102 - I'd shake the ball, like this. - I'd shake the ball, like this.
996 00:39:26,146 00:39:27,669 I can't do it anymore. I can't do it anymore.
997 00:39:27,713 00:39:30,368 But I'd do it real fastthis way, and then that way, But I'd do it real fastthis way, and then that way,
998 00:39:30,411 00:39:34,502 and he'd usually go thatway, and I'd go this way. and he'd usually go thatway, and I'd go this way.
999 00:39:34,546 00:39:36,852 - That's a move that stillworks today, actually. - That's a move that stillworks today, actually.
1000 00:39:38,071 00:39:39,986 - [Sports Announcer] A little Curry flurry. - [Sports Announcer] A little Curry flurry.
1001 00:39:40,029 00:39:41,161 - [Curry] Yeah, I call it the windshield wiper - [Curry] Yeah, I call it the windshield wiper
1002 00:39:41,204 00:39:42,423 with one hand, right there. with one hand, right there.
1003 00:39:42,467 00:39:44,686 - But it's just a matter of shakin' the ball. - But it's just a matter of shakin' the ball.
1004 00:39:44,730 00:39:45,861 - They didn't know what to do with that. - They didn't know what to do with that.
1005 00:39:45,905 00:39:47,428 - If you talk to Kenny, - If you talk to Kenny,
1006 00:39:47,472 00:39:49,822 he's more proud of being a good defender he's more proud of being a good defender
1007 00:39:49,865 00:39:51,780 than he is about his jump shot. than he is about his jump shot.
1008 00:39:51,824 00:39:54,653 - My trick in playingdefense was to get down low. - My trick in playingdefense was to get down low.
1009 00:39:54,696 00:39:56,089 If you put your head, If you put your head,
1010 00:39:56,132 00:39:58,265 you'd hit his bellybuttonright here on your forehead. you'd hit his bellybuttonright here on your forehead.
1011 00:39:58,308 00:40:00,833 That's the way you play defense, down in here. That's the way you play defense, down in here.
1012 00:40:00,876 00:40:02,835 The faster the man is, and you know The faster the man is, and you know
1013 00:40:02,878 00:40:04,793 the more room you have to give him. the more room you have to give him.
1014 00:40:04,837 00:40:07,448 If he's not quick andfast, get right up in here. If he's not quick andfast, get right up in here.
1015 00:40:07,492 00:40:10,582 - I bet he was movin', and drivin' it, - I bet he was movin', and drivin' it,
1016 00:40:10,625 00:40:12,192 shootin' off the dribble. shootin' off the dribble.
1017 00:40:12,235 00:40:14,499 In some ways, he wasplayin' a different game. In some ways, he wasplayin' a different game.
1018 00:40:14,542 00:40:15,891 [laughing] [laughing]
1019 00:40:15,935 00:40:17,458 - As soon as he touched the ball, - As soon as he touched the ball,
1020 00:40:17,502 00:40:19,808 your eyes gravitate tojust how different it looks your eyes gravitate tojust how different it looks
1021 00:40:19,852 00:40:20,766 when he's dribblin' the ball, when he's dribblin' the ball,
1022 00:40:20,809 00:40:22,681 and his creativity on the floor, and his creativity on the floor,
1023 00:40:22,724 00:40:24,683 which I hope that that's how people which I hope that that's how people
1024 00:40:24,726 00:40:26,162 see me when I'm out there. see me when I'm out there.
1025 00:40:29,775 00:40:31,864 - [Larry] So he doesn'treally take credit for it. - [Larry] So he doesn'treally take credit for it.
1026 00:40:31,907 00:40:33,169 He really doesn't it. He really doesn't it.
1027 00:40:33,213 00:40:34,475 - Well, who would know who's the first kid - Well, who would know who's the first kid
1028 00:40:34,519 00:40:35,955 - Well--- that jumped in the air, - Well--- that jumped in the air,
1029 00:40:35,998 00:40:37,347 and shot a basketball? and shot a basketball?
1030 00:40:37,391 00:40:38,827 - [Larry] Just take it, and run with it. - [Larry] Just take it, and run with it.
1031 00:40:38,871 00:40:42,265 - It's the only thing I've done in my life - It's the only thing I've done in my life
1032 00:40:42,309 00:40:44,920 that people are interested in. that people are interested in.
1033 00:40:44,964 00:40:45,878 They don't know that that--- You're still doin' it, They don't know that that--- You're still doin' it,
1034 00:40:45,921 00:40:47,096 and you're not even playin'. and you're not even playin'.
1035 00:40:47,140 00:40:48,663 You're still goin'. - Most of 'em You're still goin'. - Most of 'em
1036 00:40:48,707 00:40:50,012 don't even know that I'vebeen in the guidin' outfitin', don't even know that I'vebeen in the guidin' outfitin',
1037 00:40:50,056 00:40:51,840 for over 50 years. - Yeah. for over 50 years. - Yeah.
1038 00:40:51,884 00:40:52,928 - 50 years. - Was it over 50? - 50 years. - Was it over 50?
1039 00:40:52,972 00:40:53,929 - Right. - I thought it was 30? - Right. - I thought it was 30?
1040 00:40:53,973 00:40:56,149 - 35 in Alaska. - Wow. - 35 in Alaska. - Wow.
1041 00:40:56,192 00:40:59,500 - Or that I was a coach, a high school coach. - Or that I was a coach, a high school coach.
1042 00:40:59,544 00:41:00,980 A lot of thing I've done A lot of thing I've done
1043 00:41:01,023 00:41:04,244 that's probably more importantthan that stupid jump shot. that's probably more importantthan that stupid jump shot.
1044 00:41:05,593 00:41:08,466 As I've gotten older, the Lord has shown me As I've gotten older, the Lord has shown me
1045 00:41:08,509 00:41:10,816 that there's far more things more important that there's far more things more important
1046 00:41:10,859 00:41:12,731 than just sports or basketball. than just sports or basketball.
1047 00:41:14,907 00:41:17,387 When I married my wife, the doctors told me When I married my wife, the doctors told me
1048 00:41:17,431 00:41:20,129 that I'd be fortunate if she lived to be 50. that I'd be fortunate if she lived to be 50.
1049 00:41:21,348 00:41:23,089 She had to go to the doctor pretty regular She had to go to the doctor pretty regular
1050 00:41:23,132 00:41:25,831 with that asthma and emphysema. with that asthma and emphysema.
1051 00:41:27,180 00:41:29,661 And I said, "Doc, what kindof a lifestyle can we live And I said, "Doc, what kindof a lifestyle can we live
1052 00:41:29,704 00:41:32,315 that will prolong her life?", and he said, that will prolong her life?", and he said,
1053 00:41:32,359 00:41:34,579 "If you can stay out into the country, "If you can stay out into the country,
1054 00:41:34,622 00:41:35,928 and stay out of the cities, and stay out of the cities,
1055 00:41:35,971 00:41:38,539 it would be really beneficial to her". it would be really beneficial to her".
1056 00:41:38,583 00:41:41,716 That's why when I gotretirement, pfft, I'm gone. That's why when I gotretirement, pfft, I'm gone.
1057 00:41:41,760 00:41:43,849 - Kenny left basketball. - Kenny left basketball.
1058 00:41:43,892 00:41:46,547 He could've gotten into broadcasting, He could've gotten into broadcasting,
1059 00:41:46,591 00:41:47,940 maybe doing a column in the paper, maybe doing a column in the paper,
1060 00:41:47,983 00:41:49,898 but he wasn't looking for honors in a sense. but he wasn't looking for honors in a sense.
1061 00:41:49,942 00:41:50,856 It was his way of life. It was his way of life.
1062 00:41:50,899 00:41:52,379 He wanted to play pro-basketball He wanted to play pro-basketball
1063 00:41:52,422 00:41:53,772 long enough to get a pension, and then quit, long enough to get a pension, and then quit,
1064 00:41:53,815 00:41:56,252 and go out in the sticks. and go out in the sticks.
1065 00:41:56,296 00:42:00,648 [somber instrumental music playing] [somber instrumental music playing]
1066 00:42:07,873 00:42:10,528 - Alaska was a place that held a fascination - Alaska was a place that held a fascination
1067 00:42:10,571 00:42:13,052 for my wife and I clearback before we were married. for my wife and I clearback before we were married.
1068 00:42:14,575 00:42:17,535 Bigger mountains, biggerrivers, bigger everything. Bigger mountains, biggerrivers, bigger everything.
1069 00:42:18,666 00:42:20,712 Marilynne and I loved that experience Marilynne and I loved that experience
1070 00:42:20,755 00:42:22,888 of experimenting with the unknown. of experimenting with the unknown.
1071 00:42:23,932 00:42:26,239 We lived 20 miles out of just a small town, We lived 20 miles out of just a small town,
1072 00:42:26,282 00:42:29,721 15 hundred people, at the footof the Wrangell Mountains, 15 hundred people, at the footof the Wrangell Mountains,
1073 00:42:29,764 00:42:32,767 and we lived up there 35 years. and we lived up there 35 years.
1074 00:42:32,811 00:42:34,726 ♪ Way up north ♪ Up to the ♪ Way up north ♪ Up to the
1075 00:42:34,769 00:42:36,031 ♪ Last stop - We didn't have ♪ Last stop - We didn't have
1076 00:42:36,075 00:42:38,512 to buy anything, just go out over the country, to buy anything, just go out over the country,
1077 00:42:38,556 00:42:40,688 wherever it looks nice, and homestead. wherever it looks nice, and homestead.
1078 00:42:40,732 00:42:43,169 Set your corners up, and live on it for a year, Set your corners up, and live on it for a year,
1079 00:42:43,212 00:42:43,996 and it's yours. and it's yours.
1080 00:42:45,606 00:42:47,782 - Kenny was an outdoors manwho like to hunt, and fish, - Kenny was an outdoors manwho like to hunt, and fish,
1081 00:42:47,826 00:42:49,915 and be in the mountains, and ride horses. and be in the mountains, and ride horses.
1082 00:42:49,958 00:42:52,831 To this day, he has some spurs and cowboy hats To this day, he has some spurs and cowboy hats
1083 00:42:52,874 00:42:54,876 that must be 100 years old. that must be 100 years old.
1084 00:42:54,920 00:42:57,662 - These chaps are a part ofthe business I grew up in. - These chaps are a part ofthe business I grew up in.
1085 00:42:57,705 00:42:59,054 Cowboy's hat. Cowboy's hat.
1086 00:42:59,098 00:43:01,143 This is not quite as oldas me, but it's pretty old. This is not quite as oldas me, but it's pretty old.
1087 00:43:01,187 00:43:03,189 Most cowboys are pretty proud of their hats. Most cowboys are pretty proud of their hats.
1088 00:43:03,232 00:43:04,799 - [Male] I've told him this. - [Male] I've told him this.
1089 00:43:04,843 00:43:07,323 I said, "You know, Kenny, youcould've been born in 1821, I said, "You know, Kenny, youcould've been born in 1821,
1090 00:43:07,367 00:43:09,761 and been a man on the Western Frontier, and been a man on the Western Frontier,
1091 00:43:09,804 00:43:11,632 leading wagon trains on the Oregon Trail, leading wagon trains on the Oregon Trail,
1092 00:43:11,676 00:43:13,547 because you would never have turned back". because you would never have turned back".
1093 00:43:13,591 00:43:15,070 ♪ Across the majestic - We got into ♪ Across the majestic - We got into
1094 00:43:15,114 00:43:16,376 the big game hunting, the big game hunting,
1095 00:43:16,419 00:43:18,683 which ended up being one of our major business. which ended up being one of our major business.
1096 00:43:18,726 00:43:20,815 - It was really great workin' with Kenny. - It was really great workin' with Kenny.
1097 00:43:20,859 00:43:23,470 We had a really goodrelationship from the start. We had a really goodrelationship from the start.
1098 00:43:23,513 00:43:26,604 We did mostly sheep huntin',and then some moose hunts. We did mostly sheep huntin',and then some moose hunts.
1099 00:43:26,647 00:43:30,216 Moose, they're so darn big,the way Kenny operated, Moose, they're so darn big,the way Kenny operated,
1100 00:43:30,259 00:43:31,696 he'd put 'em on the horse's backs, he'd put 'em on the horse's backs,
1101 00:43:31,739 00:43:34,524 and he could pack 'em a lot further than we can. and he could pack 'em a lot further than we can.
1102 00:43:35,874 00:43:38,833 - We had to drive over 100miles to the end of a road - We had to drive over 100miles to the end of a road
1103 00:43:38,877 00:43:41,140 with the horses, and thenride into the mountains with the horses, and thenride into the mountains
1104 00:43:41,183 00:43:43,316 to get to the hunting camp. to get to the hunting camp.
1105 00:43:43,359 00:43:44,534 Being in the mountains is amazing. Being in the mountains is amazing.
1106 00:43:44,578 00:43:45,884 That's one of my favorite things. That's one of my favorite things.
1107 00:43:45,927 00:43:48,103 But riding horses for 12 hours in the mountains, But riding horses for 12 hours in the mountains,
1108 00:43:48,147 00:43:50,932 not so much when you're likeeight or nine-years-old. not so much when you're likeeight or nine-years-old.
1109 00:43:50,976 00:43:52,281 [laughing] [laughing]
1110 00:43:52,325 00:43:54,066 - [Male] Word got around pretty fast - [Male] Word got around pretty fast
1111 00:43:54,109 00:43:55,763 that he'd been in the NBA. that he'd been in the NBA.
1112 00:43:57,069 00:43:58,723 I don't think he bragged about it, I don't think he bragged about it,
1113 00:43:58,766 00:44:00,550 but it was somethin' that came up. but it was somethin' that came up.
1114 00:44:00,594 00:44:01,900 - We were in awe, - We were in awe,
1115 00:44:01,943 00:44:04,903 because he had played with the Boston Celtics. because he had played with the Boston Celtics.
1116 00:44:04,946 00:44:06,426 - We just couldn't believe - We just couldn't believe
1117 00:44:06,469 00:44:09,690 that somebody thattalented and accomplished that somebody thattalented and accomplished
1118 00:44:09,734 00:44:12,301 could come to this little, podunk place could come to this little, podunk place
1119 00:44:12,345 00:44:13,694 in the middle of nowhere. in the middle of nowhere.
1120 00:44:15,217 00:44:17,176 - [Kenny] Hunting season started in August, - [Kenny] Hunting season started in August,
1121 00:44:17,219 00:44:19,613 so by October, I'm all through, so by October, I'm all through,
1122 00:44:19,657 00:44:21,180 and it worked out perfect for me and it worked out perfect for me
1123 00:44:21,223 00:44:23,051 coachin' and teachin' in the schools. coachin' and teachin' in the schools.
1124 00:44:24,574 00:44:27,316 - Kenny was my basketballcoach, my track coach, - Kenny was my basketballcoach, my track coach,
1125 00:44:27,360 00:44:29,667 my football coach, my wresting coach. my football coach, my wresting coach.
1126 00:44:29,710 00:44:31,799 He pretty much filled the coaching spot He pretty much filled the coaching spot
1127 00:44:31,843 00:44:33,105 for everything we had. for everything we had.
1128 00:44:34,367 00:44:36,717 - [Female] Before Kenny arrived, there was no - [Female] Before Kenny arrived, there was no
1129 00:44:36,761 00:44:40,634 scholastic basketballparticipation for the girls. scholastic basketballparticipation for the girls.
1130 00:44:41,548 00:44:43,332 It was just PE classes, It was just PE classes,
1131 00:44:43,376 00:44:46,205 and possibly intermural scrimmages. and possibly intermural scrimmages.
1132 00:44:46,248 00:44:47,902 - There was no girls basketball. - There was no girls basketball.
1133 00:44:47,946 00:44:49,817 I didn't like that, because I had a daughter I didn't like that, because I had a daughter
1134 00:44:49,861 00:44:51,819 that was a good athlete,and I thought it was wrong that was a good athlete,and I thought it was wrong
1135 00:44:51,863 00:44:53,560 for it not to have a girls program. for it not to have a girls program.
1136 00:44:54,779 00:44:56,476 - [Female] At that time, the girls couldn't - [Female] At that time, the girls couldn't
1137 00:44:56,519 00:44:57,869 cross over the half line, cross over the half line,
1138 00:44:57,912 00:45:00,219 except for the rovingguards, and roaming forwards. except for the rovingguards, and roaming forwards.
1139 00:45:00,262 00:45:02,482 - And it was the old Iowagame they use to call it, - And it was the old Iowagame they use to call it,
1140 00:45:02,525 00:45:03,744 the half-court game. the half-court game.
1141 00:45:03,788 00:45:06,312 They played six people to a team, They played six people to a team,
1142 00:45:06,355 00:45:08,401 and only three of them could cross half-court. and only three of them could cross half-court.
1143 00:45:08,444 00:45:10,664 - [Nancy] The reason women played six on six - [Nancy] The reason women played six on six
1144 00:45:10,708 00:45:13,058 is because they didn'twant us to get exhausted. is because they didn'twant us to get exhausted.
1145 00:45:13,101 00:45:14,755 - [Lew] Girls wereconsidered to be so frail - [Lew] Girls wereconsidered to be so frail
1146 00:45:14,799 00:45:16,670 they couldn't run up and down the court. they couldn't run up and down the court.
1147 00:45:16,714 00:45:18,063 - They thought if we could just run - They thought if we could just run
1148 00:45:18,106 00:45:20,065 half-court here and a half-court there half-court here and a half-court there
1149 00:45:20,108 00:45:22,763 it wouldn't be too physically taxing on us. it wouldn't be too physically taxing on us.
1150 00:45:23,721 00:45:24,809 It's crazy. It's crazy.
1151 00:45:24,852 00:45:26,419 - He grew up with a really strong woman, - He grew up with a really strong woman,
1152 00:45:26,462 00:45:28,421 so in his mind, women are tough, so in his mind, women are tough,
1153 00:45:28,464 00:45:30,771 so why can't they run up and down the court? so why can't they run up and down the court?
1154 00:45:30,815 00:45:32,381 - So I worked to get girls basketball goin', - So I worked to get girls basketball goin',
1155 00:45:32,425 00:45:35,080 and I use to travel aroundwith one of the gals, and I use to travel aroundwith one of the gals,
1156 00:45:35,123 00:45:37,430 and we'd go hold clinics all over the state, and we'd go hold clinics all over the state,
1157 00:45:37,473 00:45:38,779 and try to convince 'em and try to convince 'em
1158 00:45:38,823 00:45:40,433 that they needed a girlsprogram in their schools, that they needed a girlsprogram in their schools,
1159 00:45:40,476 00:45:42,827 Just as important as it is for boys. Just as important as it is for boys.
1160 00:45:42,870 00:45:45,090 - Up to that point,organized girls basketball - Up to that point,organized girls basketball
1161 00:45:45,133 00:45:47,092 was played just in the private school system, was played just in the private school system,
1162 00:45:47,135 00:45:48,615 and he was instrumental in getting and he was instrumental in getting
1163 00:45:48,658 00:45:49,877 that state tournament started. that state tournament started.
1164 00:45:49,921 00:45:52,401 And by 1970, there were teams all over Alaska And by 1970, there were teams all over Alaska
1165 00:45:52,445 00:45:54,795 playing in the girls basketball tournament, playing in the girls basketball tournament,
1166 00:45:54,839 00:45:56,754 and his team was in the thick of things. and his team was in the thick of things.
1167 00:45:56,797 00:45:58,756 - He put Glennallen on the map. - He put Glennallen on the map.
1168 00:45:58,799 00:46:01,759 - [Male] He had somehellacious good girls teams. - [Male] He had somehellacious good girls teams.
1169 00:46:01,802 00:46:03,325 - [Female] Anybody who had a team, - [Female] Anybody who had a team,
1170 00:46:03,369 00:46:05,763 and was willing to play us, we would play. and was willing to play us, we would play.
1171 00:46:05,806 00:46:07,329 - The other thing that Kenny did, - The other thing that Kenny did,
1172 00:46:07,373 00:46:09,767 he gave Native girls achance to play basketball. he gave Native girls achance to play basketball.
1173 00:46:11,203 00:46:13,727 - The first team I coachedthere in Glennallen, - The first team I coachedthere in Glennallen,
1174 00:46:13,771 00:46:17,731 I think they were all Athabascans or Eskimos, I think they were all Athabascans or Eskimos,
1175 00:46:17,775 00:46:20,778 all the girls, except two or three. all the girls, except two or three.
1176 00:46:20,821 00:46:23,563 - They were generallydeemed too little to play. - They were generallydeemed too little to play.
1177 00:46:23,606 00:46:25,391 They weren't as tall instature as the white girls, They weren't as tall instature as the white girls,
1178 00:46:25,434 00:46:27,262 the Anglo girls, if you will. the Anglo girls, if you will.
1179 00:46:27,306 00:46:30,091 But that was okay with Kenny,because he could teach them. But that was okay with Kenny,because he could teach them.
1180 00:46:30,135 00:46:32,354 - He taught us by demonstration. - He taught us by demonstration.
1181 00:46:32,398 00:46:34,313 We'd see how he did it, and we'd copy, We'd see how he did it, and we'd copy,
1182 00:46:34,356 00:46:36,358 and them, you know, whoa, we can do things and them, you know, whoa, we can do things
1183 00:46:36,402 00:46:38,317 we never dreamed we'd be able to do. we never dreamed we'd be able to do.
1184 00:46:38,360 00:46:40,841 - Believe it or not, Itaught 'em the same offense - Believe it or not, Itaught 'em the same offense
1185 00:46:40,885 00:46:42,451 that I played in college. that I played in college.
1186 00:46:42,495 00:46:43,931 My old college coach says, My old college coach says,
1187 00:46:43,975 00:46:45,803 "You guys that are gonna coachin high school", he said, "You guys that are gonna coachin high school", he said,
1188 00:46:45,846 00:46:47,543 "Don't try to teach this to high school kids". "Don't try to teach this to high school kids".
1189 00:46:47,587 00:46:49,589 "It'll take 'em, they'd be seniors "It'll take 'em, they'd be seniors
1190 00:46:49,632 00:46:50,982 before they could ever learn how to do it." before they could ever learn how to do it."
1191 00:46:51,025 00:46:53,201 It didn't my girls that long. It didn't my girls that long.
1192 00:46:53,245 00:46:55,116 They picked it up in a hurry. They picked it up in a hurry.
1193 00:46:55,160 00:46:56,422 - He was very proud of 'em, - He was very proud of 'em,
1194 00:46:56,465 00:46:58,772 because they did what he taught 'em to do, because they did what he taught 'em to do,
1195 00:46:58,816 00:47:00,861 and that was, forget about being ladies and that was, forget about being ladies
1196 00:47:00,905 00:47:02,732 when you're on the basketball court. when you're on the basketball court.
1197 00:47:02,776 00:47:06,736 Once they overcame that, he had a winnin' team. Once they overcame that, he had a winnin' team.
1198 00:47:06,780 00:47:07,912 - That's huge for women. - That's huge for women.
1199 00:47:07,955 00:47:09,870 That's huge, especially when you were told That's huge, especially when you were told
1200 00:47:09,914 00:47:10,915 you're not supposed to be aggressive, you're not supposed to be aggressive,
1201 00:47:10,958 00:47:12,090 or you're not supposed to sweat, or you're not supposed to sweat,
1202 00:47:12,133 00:47:13,395 or you're not supposed to be or you're not supposed to be
1203 00:47:13,439 00:47:15,136 out there playin', bein' physical. out there playin', bein' physical.
1204 00:47:15,180 00:47:16,746 - I'll brag a little here now. - I'll brag a little here now.
1205 00:47:16,790 00:47:19,706 My girls won three state championships, My girls won three state championships,
1206 00:47:19,749 00:47:22,796 and we came in second oncein a seven year period. and we came in second oncein a seven year period.
1207 00:47:22,840 00:47:24,319 - [Male] They won 68 straight games, - [Male] They won 68 straight games,
1208 00:47:24,363 00:47:26,756 and became a powerhouse, this little Glennallen. and became a powerhouse, this little Glennallen.
1209 00:47:26,800 00:47:30,412 - [Female] He organizedbasketball, and made it big - [Female] He organizedbasketball, and made it big
1210 00:47:30,456 00:47:31,849 in the state of Alaska. in the state of Alaska.
1211 00:47:34,547 00:47:36,810 - He just constantly used the sport - He just constantly used the sport
1212 00:47:36,854 00:47:38,203 to influence people's lives. to influence people's lives.
1213 00:47:38,246 00:47:41,728 - I don't think there's alife that he didn't touch - I don't think there's alife that he didn't touch
1214 00:47:41,771 00:47:44,252 up in the Glennallen area. up in the Glennallen area.
1215 00:47:44,296 00:47:47,560 - I was really a lousy basketball player, - I was really a lousy basketball player,
1216 00:47:47,603 00:47:48,909 [laughing] [laughing]
1217 00:47:48,953 00:47:52,347 but he encouraged me to play. but he encouraged me to play.
1218 00:47:52,391 00:47:55,916 - [Female] He gave us purpose,passion, personal confidence - [Female] He gave us purpose,passion, personal confidence
1219 00:47:55,960 00:47:57,744 to become a lot of different things to become a lot of different things
1220 00:47:57,787 00:48:00,181 that would never have happened otherwise. that would never have happened otherwise.
1221 00:48:00,225 00:48:01,835 - I think he saw something in me - I think he saw something in me
1222 00:48:01,879 00:48:04,664 that he wanted to develop. that he wanted to develop.
1223 00:48:04,707 00:48:05,970 - That was a big part for him. - That was a big part for him.
1224 00:48:06,013 00:48:07,536 It's not necessarily winning championships, It's not necessarily winning championships,
1225 00:48:07,580 00:48:10,931 but developing kids who would have the mentality but developing kids who would have the mentality
1226 00:48:10,975 00:48:12,106 to take what they learned, to take what they learned,
1227 00:48:12,150 00:48:14,413 and apply it to other areas of their life. and apply it to other areas of their life.
1228 00:48:14,456 00:48:16,502 - In order for him to go empower them to say, - In order for him to go empower them to say,
1229 00:48:16,545 00:48:19,026 "Look, this game right here is amazing". "Look, this game right here is amazing".
1230 00:48:19,070 00:48:21,028 "It builds team work, character, chemistry." "It builds team work, character, chemistry."
1231 00:48:21,072 00:48:23,813 "It builds all that stuff thatyou need in the real world, "It builds all that stuff thatyou need in the real world,
1232 00:48:23,857 00:48:25,903 and empower women at the same time." and empower women at the same time."
1233 00:48:26,904 00:48:29,602 I mean, that's all you're really want man. I mean, that's all you're really want man.
1234 00:48:30,995 00:48:32,083 - [Female] He's the best thing - [Female] He's the best thing
1235 00:48:32,126 00:48:33,823 that could've happened to Glennallen. that could've happened to Glennallen.
1236 00:48:35,651 00:48:38,741 - For 35 years, Kenny lived in Alaska, - For 35 years, Kenny lived in Alaska,
1237 00:48:38,785 00:48:40,265 and at least half of that time and at least half of that time
1238 00:48:40,308 00:48:43,703 was spent teaching and coachingat the high school level. was spent teaching and coachingat the high school level.
1239 00:48:43,746 00:48:45,444 He retired at age 70. He retired at age 70.
1240 00:48:45,487 00:48:48,838 And throughout all the, youknow, his exciting adventures, And throughout all the, youknow, his exciting adventures,
1241 00:48:48,882 00:48:50,797 Grandma stayed by his side. Grandma stayed by his side.
1242 00:48:50,840 00:48:55,236 [somber instrumental music playing] [somber instrumental music playing]
1243 00:48:57,499 00:48:58,805 - That's my girl. - That's my girl.
1244 00:49:00,633 00:49:05,551 60 years of my life I spent with that girl. 60 years of my life I spent with that girl.
1245 00:49:09,511 00:49:11,426 My wife and I had a wonderful marriage, My wife and I had a wonderful marriage,
1246 00:49:11,470 00:49:12,950 and it lasted a long time. and it lasted a long time.
1247 00:49:14,081 00:49:15,822 We've enjoyed livin' with each other. We've enjoyed livin' with each other.
1248 00:49:15,865 00:49:17,911 We enjoyed our family. We enjoyed our family.
1249 00:49:17,955 00:49:20,087 I don't know how itcould've been any better. I don't know how itcould've been any better.
1250 00:49:21,393 00:49:23,699 She contacted dementia, She contacted dementia,
1251 00:49:23,743 00:49:28,226 and gradually you lose yourmemory of things way back. and gradually you lose yourmemory of things way back.
1252 00:49:28,269 00:49:32,708 [somber instrumental music playing] [somber instrumental music playing]
1253 00:49:35,363 00:49:37,800 One time at night, woke up in the winter time, One time at night, woke up in the winter time,
1254 00:49:37,844 00:49:39,933 and I looked over, and she wasn't in bed. and I looked over, and she wasn't in bed.
1255 00:49:42,240 00:49:43,893 So I went and looked in the bathroom, So I went and looked in the bathroom,
1256 00:49:43,937 00:49:46,026 and out in the kitchenwhere sometimes she gets up, and out in the kitchenwhere sometimes she gets up,
1257 00:49:46,070 00:49:48,681 and goes and gets a cup of coffee, and goes and gets a cup of coffee,
1258 00:49:48,724 00:49:50,596 and then, no sign of her. and then, no sign of her.
1259 00:49:51,858 00:49:53,947 So I went outside, So I went outside,
1260 00:49:53,991 00:49:55,688 and I went around thecorner of our lodge there, and I went around thecorner of our lodge there,
1261 00:49:55,731 00:49:57,342 and there she stood. and there she stood.
1262 00:49:57,385 00:50:02,390 [somber instrumental music playing] [somber instrumental music playing]
1263 00:50:03,609 00:50:04,914 The northern lights, oh, they were beautiful, The northern lights, oh, they were beautiful,
1264 00:50:04,958 00:50:07,743 right down around her, andme, and everybody else. right down around her, andme, and everybody else.
1265 00:50:09,310 00:50:11,399 It was about 30 degrees below outside, It was about 30 degrees below outside,
1266 00:50:12,879 00:50:15,708 and she was just standin' therewith her night clothes on, and she was just standin' therewith her night clothes on,
1267 00:50:15,751 00:50:17,884 and she did have hercloak on, thank goodness. and she did have hercloak on, thank goodness.
1268 00:50:19,364 00:50:21,322 When I told the doctors aboutit, that's when they said, When I told the doctors aboutit, that's when they said,
1269 00:50:21,366 00:50:22,845 "Kenny, you better begin thinkin' about "Kenny, you better begin thinkin' about
1270 00:50:22,889 00:50:24,064 gettin' out of this climate, gettin' out of this climate,
1271 00:50:24,108 00:50:25,892 because you'll walk out one of these nights because you'll walk out one of these nights
1272 00:50:25,935 00:50:29,026 when it's 40 or 50 below, andshe won't last very long". when it's 40 or 50 below, andshe won't last very long".
1273 00:50:30,897 00:50:31,941 - I think she realized - I think she realized
1274 00:50:31,985 00:50:33,726 that she needed to stay healthy for him that she needed to stay healthy for him
1275 00:50:33,769 00:50:34,814 'cause they were a team. 'cause they were a team.
1276 00:50:36,033 00:50:37,382 A lot of decisions that he made in his life A lot of decisions that he made in his life
1277 00:50:37,425 00:50:39,906 were because he wanted to be there for her, were because he wanted to be there for her,
1278 00:50:39,949 00:50:41,821 and, you know, as she got sicker, and, you know, as she got sicker,
1279 00:50:41,864 00:50:45,390 just being there as much ashe possibly could for Grandma just being there as much ashe possibly could for Grandma
1280 00:50:46,826 00:50:47,870 until she was gone, so. until she was gone, so.
1281 00:50:49,872 00:50:52,005 - It's tough, but the Lord gives you strength - It's tough, but the Lord gives you strength
1282 00:50:52,049 00:50:54,312 that you don't even know where it comes from. that you don't even know where it comes from.
1283 00:50:55,226 00:50:56,575 He just gives you the strength He just gives you the strength
1284 00:50:56,618 00:50:58,794 to go through most anything, mm-hmm. to go through most anything, mm-hmm.
1285 00:50:58,838 00:51:02,798 [somber instrumental music playing] [somber instrumental music playing]
1286 00:51:02,842 00:51:05,497 - He doesn't understand why - He doesn't understand why
1287 00:51:05,540 00:51:07,716 he's still gettin' around, and stuff, he's still gettin' around, and stuff,
1288 00:51:07,760 00:51:10,806 other than the Lord has things for him to do. other than the Lord has things for him to do.
1289 00:51:10,850 00:51:13,635 [intense booming] [intense booming]
1290 00:51:14,767 00:51:16,247 - [Male] When you think in terms of Kenny - [Male] When you think in terms of Kenny
1291 00:51:16,290 00:51:19,206 essentially dropping out ofthe basketball world in 1951, essentially dropping out ofthe basketball world in 1951,
1292 00:51:19,250 00:51:22,166 and coming back almost in the 21st century, and coming back almost in the 21st century,
1293 00:51:22,209 00:51:24,559 it's almost like these peoplewho will wake out of a coma, it's almost like these peoplewho will wake out of a coma,
1294 00:51:24,603 00:51:27,258 and have to learn how to usea computer, and a cellphone. and have to learn how to usea computer, and a cellphone.
1295 00:51:27,301 00:51:31,827 That one-hand modern day jumpshot has changed the game, That one-hand modern day jumpshot has changed the game,
1296 00:51:31,871 00:51:36,310 that which maybe a computerhas changed our generation. that which maybe a computerhas changed our generation.
1297 00:51:36,354 00:51:38,399 - [Male] You could almostgo decade by decade, - [Male] You could almostgo decade by decade,
1298 00:51:38,443 00:51:40,749 and the game is almost unrecognizable and the game is almost unrecognizable
1299 00:51:40,793 00:51:42,403 to the previous decade. to the previous decade.
1300 00:51:42,447 00:51:43,752 That being said, That being said,
1301 00:51:43,796 00:51:45,754 there are elements that give it some continuity. there are elements that give it some continuity.
1302 00:51:45,798 00:51:47,887 The jump shot certainly contributed to that. The jump shot certainly contributed to that.
1303 00:51:47,930 00:51:49,541 - [Male] It's a whole different game - [Male] It's a whole different game
1304 00:51:49,584 00:51:52,892 than Dr. Naismith originallyenvisioned in his mind. than Dr. Naismith originallyenvisioned in his mind.
1305 00:51:52,935 00:51:54,241 - [Male] The interesting thing about basketball - [Male] The interesting thing about basketball
1306 00:51:54,285 00:51:55,677 is it's always evolving. is it's always evolving.
1307 00:51:55,721 00:51:58,115 All the greats of the game can do thing today All the greats of the game can do thing today
1308 00:51:58,158 00:52:01,118 that nobody ever thought that players could do. that nobody ever thought that players could do.
1309 00:52:01,161 00:52:02,771 - [Male] With thethree-point lines moving to - [Male] With thethree-point lines moving to
1310 00:52:02,815 00:52:04,556 a perimeter oriented game, a perimeter oriented game,
1311 00:52:04,599 00:52:06,819 and whether people know it or not, and whether people know it or not,
1312 00:52:06,862 00:52:08,603 you can anywhere in the world, you can anywhere in the world,
1313 00:52:08,647 00:52:09,865 and watch people play basketball, and watch people play basketball,
1314 00:52:09,909 00:52:11,737 and they're shooting Kenny's shot. and they're shooting Kenny's shot.
1315 00:52:11,780 00:52:12,868 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
1316 00:52:12,912 00:52:15,480 [cheering drowns out announcer] [cheering drowns out announcer]
1317 00:52:15,523 00:52:18,309 - [Sports Announcer] I'm gettinga little excited right now. - [Sports Announcer] I'm gettinga little excited right now.
1318 00:52:18,352 00:52:21,050 In Laramie they may be dancing in the streets. In Laramie they may be dancing in the streets.
1319 00:52:21,094 00:52:23,575 - [Kenny] In 1987, our basketball team - [Kenny] In 1987, our basketball team
1320 00:52:23,618 00:52:25,925 beat a highly rated UCLA team beat a highly rated UCLA team
1321 00:52:25,968 00:52:28,145 to advance to the Sweet 16. to advance to the Sweet 16.
1322 00:52:28,188 00:52:29,711 - [Sports Announcer] Wyoming delivered. - [Sports Announcer] Wyoming delivered.
1323 00:52:29,755 00:52:32,149 [horn blaring] [crowd cheering] [horn blaring] [crowd cheering]
1324 00:52:32,192 00:52:35,152 - A couple years ago, theuniversity put a team into the - A couple years ago, theuniversity put a team into the
1325 00:52:35,195 00:52:36,849 Wyoming Sports Hall of Fame. Wyoming Sports Hall of Fame.
1326 00:52:38,503 00:52:40,461 One morning I came down for breakfast, One morning I came down for breakfast,
1327 00:52:40,505 00:52:42,071 and I saw Kenny Sailors there, and I saw Kenny Sailors there,
1328 00:52:42,115 00:52:44,335 so I sat down and ate breakfast with him, so I sat down and ate breakfast with him,
1329 00:52:44,378 00:52:47,729 and to my shock, I find outthat he wasn't recognized and to my shock, I find outthat he wasn't recognized
1330 00:52:47,773 00:52:49,340 in the Naismith Hall of Fame. in the Naismith Hall of Fame.
1331 00:52:50,732 00:52:52,081 I just thought he was in, I just thought he was in,
1332 00:52:52,125 00:52:53,866 and then when I found out he wasn't, and then when I found out he wasn't,
1333 00:52:53,909 00:52:56,042 from that moment on, Ijust kinda made up my mind from that moment on, Ijust kinda made up my mind
1334 00:52:56,085 00:52:58,566 that I'm going to put every effort I can that I'm going to put every effort I can
1335 00:52:58,610 00:53:02,831 into seein' if we can't getKenny put into the Hall of Fame, into seein' if we can't getKenny put into the Hall of Fame,
1336 00:53:02,875 00:53:04,181 because he belongs there. because he belongs there.
1337 00:53:04,224 00:53:07,096 I mean, this is a righteous project. I mean, this is a righteous project.
1338 00:53:09,795 00:53:12,928 [crowd cheering] [crowd cheering]
1339 00:53:12,972 00:53:15,017 [intense dramatic music playing] [intense dramatic music playing]
1340 00:53:15,061 00:53:17,368 - [Male] The Naismith MemorialBasketball Hall of Fame - [Male] The Naismith MemorialBasketball Hall of Fame
1341 00:53:17,411 00:53:21,720 is one of the more confusedinstitutions of its stature. is one of the more confusedinstitutions of its stature.
1342 00:53:21,763 00:53:23,896 - They operate a little differently. - They operate a little differently.
1343 00:53:23,939 00:53:26,768 They are not like the standard Hall of Fame. They are not like the standard Hall of Fame.
1344 00:53:26,812 00:53:28,770 - [Male] When it comes timeto vote for Cooperstown - [Male] When it comes timeto vote for Cooperstown
1345 00:53:28,814 00:53:30,816 every media outlet in the country every media outlet in the country
1346 00:53:30,859 00:53:33,514 is discussing who belongs in and why, is discussing who belongs in and why,
1347 00:53:33,558 00:53:34,776 and everybody knows the rules. and everybody knows the rules.
1348 00:53:34,820 00:53:37,692 75% of the vote from active members 75% of the vote from active members
1349 00:53:37,736 00:53:40,260 of the Baseball Writers' Association of America of the Baseball Writers' Association of America
1350 00:53:40,304 00:53:41,696 gets you into Cooperstown, gets you into Cooperstown,
1351 00:53:41,740 00:53:43,481 and that vote is gonna bepublished in the morning, and that vote is gonna bepublished in the morning,
1352 00:53:43,524 00:53:45,222 and many guys reveal their vote. and many guys reveal their vote.
1353 00:53:45,265 00:53:47,136 - With the Naismith Hall of Fame - With the Naismith Hall of Fame
1354 00:53:47,180 00:53:51,271 it's a secret process with a secret committee. it's a secret process with a secret committee.
1355 00:53:51,315 00:53:54,100 - [Male] Nobody's quite surehow you do or don't get in - [Male] Nobody's quite surehow you do or don't get in
1356 00:53:54,143 00:53:56,363 to the Naismith Memorial Hall of Fame. to the Naismith Memorial Hall of Fame.
1357 00:53:57,321 00:53:58,670 - There are people who say that, - There are people who say that,
1358 00:53:58,713 00:54:00,715 "Kenny Sailors is the best basketball player "Kenny Sailors is the best basketball player
1359 00:54:00,759 00:54:02,369 they ever saw play". they ever saw play".
1360 00:54:02,413 00:54:04,676 If you ever need a bigger testament If you ever need a bigger testament
1361 00:54:04,719 00:54:07,896 that this was one of thegreat basketball players ever, that this was one of thegreat basketball players ever,
1362 00:54:07,940 00:54:10,290 at the 1990 Final Four in Denver, at the 1990 Final Four in Denver,
1363 00:54:10,334 00:54:12,771 they recognized the players of the decade they recognized the players of the decade
1364 00:54:12,814 00:54:15,339 for the first 50 years of NCAA Tournament. for the first 50 years of NCAA Tournament.
1365 00:54:15,382 00:54:20,300 For the 1980s, PatrickEwing, '70's, Magic Johnson, For the 1980s, PatrickEwing, '70's, Magic Johnson,
1366 00:54:20,344 00:54:24,522 '60s, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,'50s, Bill Russell. '60s, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,'50s, Bill Russell.
1367 00:54:24,565 00:54:26,698 Kenny got it for the 1940s. Kenny got it for the 1940s.
1368 00:54:26,741 00:54:28,047 Not bad company. Not bad company.
1369 00:54:29,309 00:54:30,702 - I know it's a hard job to induct people - I know it's a hard job to induct people
1370 00:54:30,745 00:54:32,878 into the Hall of Fame, and the criteria, into the Hall of Fame, and the criteria,
1371 00:54:32,921 00:54:35,359 you know, you've gotta lookat so many different things. you know, you've gotta lookat so many different things.
1372 00:54:35,402 00:54:36,708 I understand that, I understand that,
1373 00:54:36,751 00:54:38,231 but if you really want to do your job right, but if you really want to do your job right,
1374 00:54:38,275 00:54:39,145 you would do your homework, you would do your homework,
1375 00:54:39,188 00:54:40,320 you would do your research, you would do your research,
1376 00:54:40,364 00:54:42,670 and you would realize that he belongs. and you would realize that he belongs.
1377 00:54:42,714 00:54:44,629 - I am confident in saying, - I am confident in saying,
1378 00:54:44,672 00:54:48,197 "There is no largeromission from a major sport "There is no largeromission from a major sport
1379 00:54:48,241 00:54:50,896 Hall of Fame than Kenny Sailors". Hall of Fame than Kenny Sailors".
1380 00:54:50,939 00:54:53,812 The only thing you can tell me The only thing you can tell me
1381 00:54:53,855 00:54:57,076 about why Kenny Sailorsshouldn't be in the Hall of Fame about why Kenny Sailorsshouldn't be in the Hall of Fame
1382 00:54:57,119 00:54:59,818 is because Kenny Sailors is not famous. is because Kenny Sailors is not famous.
1383 00:54:59,861 00:55:01,123 [coughing] [coughing]
1384 00:55:01,167 00:55:02,429 - [Interviewer] [mumbling]Were you sayin', - [Interviewer] [mumbling]Were you sayin',
1385 00:55:02,473 00:55:03,952 talkin' about once you had some endorsements, talkin' about once you had some endorsements,
1386 00:55:03,996 00:55:05,606 but the club got the money? but the club got the money?
1387 00:55:05,650 00:55:07,608 - And what were you selling? - And what were you selling?
1388 00:55:07,652 00:55:08,870 - [Kenny] - [Kenny]
1389 00:55:13,179 00:55:15,007 - Prune juice, huh? - Prune juice, huh?
1390 00:55:15,050 00:55:18,924 That's supposed to be for digestion? That's supposed to be for digestion?
1391 00:55:18,967 00:55:20,186 - Oh, prune juice. - Oh, prune juice.
1392 00:55:20,229 00:55:23,232 [laughing] [laughing]
1393 00:55:23,276 00:55:26,061 That was the Gatorade backin the day, prune juice? That was the Gatorade backin the day, prune juice?
1394 00:55:26,105 00:55:27,367 Ew. Ew.
1395 00:55:27,411 00:55:29,369 - "Nature's great energy builder." - "Nature's great energy builder."
1396 00:55:29,413 00:55:30,718 I gotta try that, actually. I gotta try that, actually.
1397 00:55:30,762 00:55:31,763 - That's pretty good. - That's pretty good.
1398 00:55:31,806 00:55:33,068 He's got a good smile. He's got a good smile.
1399 00:55:33,112 00:55:34,766 He's repin' it, I like that. He's repin' it, I like that.
1400 00:55:34,809 00:55:36,420 - You know, I'm almost 40, at this point, - You know, I'm almost 40, at this point,
1401 00:55:36,463 00:55:38,552 I'll try anything, so I might have them give me I'll try anything, so I might have them give me
1402 00:55:38,596 00:55:40,293 the Bennetts Prune Juice. the Bennetts Prune Juice.
1403 00:55:40,337 00:55:43,035 - I don't know if you cando that nowadays, but hey, - I don't know if you cando that nowadays, but hey,
1404 00:55:43,078 00:55:44,602 if it weren't for prune juice, if it weren't for prune juice,
1405 00:55:44,645 00:55:46,517 there probably wouldn't have been a Gatorade. there probably wouldn't have been a Gatorade.
1406 00:55:48,910 00:55:50,303 - Yeah, we've talked about this a lot, - Yeah, we've talked about this a lot,
1407 00:55:50,347 00:55:51,696 and others have contributed ideas and others have contributed ideas
1408 00:55:51,739 00:55:53,654 as to why Kenny's not in the Hall of Fame. as to why Kenny's not in the Hall of Fame.
1409 00:55:53,698 00:55:56,091 It's a whole series of events, I think, It's a whole series of events, I think,
1410 00:55:56,135 00:55:58,703 but essentially, that he disappeared for so long. but essentially, that he disappeared for so long.
1411 00:55:58,746 00:56:01,793 - [Male] It is as simple asout of sight, out of mind. - [Male] It is as simple asout of sight, out of mind.
1412 00:56:01,836 00:56:03,882 Kenny went away, and all of a sudden, Kenny went away, and all of a sudden,
1413 00:56:03,925 00:56:06,232 his name became,"Remember Kenny Sailors?" his name became,"Remember Kenny Sailors?"
1414 00:56:06,275 00:56:07,799 - [Male] The trail got lost - [Male] The trail got lost
1415 00:56:07,842 00:56:10,715 after he'd spent anotherlife time in another world. after he'd spent anotherlife time in another world.
1416 00:56:13,326 00:56:14,283 - And, of course, the question of - And, of course, the question of
1417 00:56:14,327 00:56:15,763 who invented the modern jump shot who invented the modern jump shot
1418 00:56:15,807 00:56:17,417 seemed to be almost irrelevant, seemed to be almost irrelevant,
1419 00:56:17,461 00:56:20,246 because everybody thoughtthat it's always existed, because everybody thoughtthat it's always existed,
1420 00:56:20,289 00:56:21,203 so who cares? so who cares?
1421 00:56:22,683 00:56:24,511 - Every time we did talk about it, - Every time we did talk about it,
1422 00:56:24,555 00:56:25,425 there were those that said, there were those that said,
1423 00:56:25,469 00:56:27,906 "Well, he didn't invent it". "Well, he didn't invent it".
1424 00:56:27,949 00:56:28,863 "These guys invented it." "These guys invented it."
1425 00:56:28,907 00:56:30,865 - I mean, Luisetti. - I mean, Luisetti.
1426 00:56:30,909 00:56:32,389 - [Male] To a lot of people, - [Male] To a lot of people,
1427 00:56:32,432 00:56:34,042 the jump shot wascredited to Hank Luisetti. the jump shot wascredited to Hank Luisetti.
1428 00:56:34,086 00:56:35,566 - I called Hank Luisetti. - I called Hank Luisetti.
1429 00:56:35,609 00:56:37,829 He said, "I didn't have a jump shot". He said, "I didn't have a jump shot".
1430 00:56:37,872 00:56:40,614 "I had a running one-hander." "I had a running one-hander."
1431 00:56:40,658 00:56:41,746 - [Male] There's a debate over - [Male] There's a debate over
1432 00:56:41,789 00:56:43,008 the inventor of the jump shot, the inventor of the jump shot,
1433 00:56:43,051 00:56:45,010 because you have so many definitions of it. because you have so many definitions of it.
1434 00:56:45,053 00:56:47,316 - When you start talking aboutthis, everybody's got a name. - When you start talking aboutthis, everybody's got a name.
1435 00:56:47,360 00:56:48,448 - John Miller Cooper. - John Miller Cooper.
1436 00:56:48,492 00:56:50,015 - John Miller Cooper. - John Miller Cooper.
1437 00:56:50,058 00:56:53,105 - So the story with John Cooperwas that he was in the post, - So the story with John Cooperwas that he was in the post,
1438 00:56:53,148 00:56:54,672 and someone threw him a pass and someone threw him a pass
1439 00:56:54,715 00:56:56,064 that he kinda had to jump up to get, that he kinda had to jump up to get,
1440 00:56:56,108 00:56:58,937 and he just turned at thesame time, and shot it. and he just turned at thesame time, and shot it.
1441 00:56:58,980 00:57:01,853 - You know, you talk aboutguys like Belus Smawley. - You know, you talk aboutguys like Belus Smawley.
1442 00:57:01,896 00:57:03,158 - I've covered Belus, so I know. - I've covered Belus, so I know.
1443 00:57:03,202 00:57:05,552 He was a two-handed shot off this way, He was a two-handed shot off this way,
1444 00:57:05,596 00:57:07,206 kinda off to the side. kinda off to the side.
1445 00:57:07,249 00:57:08,816 - It's one of those things, - It's one of those things,
1446 00:57:08,860 00:57:11,297 that it's like ingrainedin our basketball culture, that it's like ingrainedin our basketball culture,
1447 00:57:11,340 00:57:14,518 your jump shot is like your hand print. your jump shot is like your hand print.
1448 00:57:14,561 00:57:16,737 - [Male] Even Joe Fulks, whowas a teammate of Kenny's, - [Male] Even Joe Fulks, whowas a teammate of Kenny's,
1449 00:57:16,781 00:57:17,869 had an unusual shot. had an unusual shot.
1450 00:57:17,912 00:57:19,087 - [Sports Announcer] A real pro-veteran, - [Sports Announcer] A real pro-veteran,
1451 00:57:19,131 00:57:20,915 "Jumpin' Joe Fulks". - It was over his head, "Jumpin' Joe Fulks". - It was over his head,
1452 00:57:20,959 00:57:24,832 the ball was up here, bothhands, he'd get a little height. the ball was up here, bothhands, he'd get a little height.
1453 00:57:24,876 00:57:27,748 And boy, oh boy, how he could shoot that thing. And boy, oh boy, how he could shoot that thing.
1454 00:57:27,792 00:57:31,099 - There might be 100 guys outthere that shot a jump shot - There might be 100 guys outthere that shot a jump shot
1455 00:57:31,143 00:57:32,797 if you wanna count leavin' the floor, if you wanna count leavin' the floor,
1456 00:57:32,840 00:57:35,756 and throwin' the ball towardthe bucket a jump shot. and throwin' the ball towardthe bucket a jump shot.
1457 00:57:35,800 00:57:37,671 - The Hall of Fame recognized Glenn Roberts - The Hall of Fame recognized Glenn Roberts
1458 00:57:37,715 00:57:39,978 as the founder of the jump shot, as the founder of the jump shot,
1459 00:57:40,021 00:57:42,981 and they found him on very sparse evidence. and they found him on very sparse evidence.
1460 00:57:43,024 00:57:45,853 - Who knows for sure, buthe was a guy in the '30s, - Who knows for sure, buthe was a guy in the '30s,
1461 00:57:45,897 00:57:49,248 you know, had the shot,and put up great numbers. you know, had the shot,and put up great numbers.
1462 00:57:49,291 00:57:50,423 - [Male] Clearly, Glenn Roberts - [Male] Clearly, Glenn Roberts
1463 00:57:50,467 00:57:51,990 had a shot that was different had a shot that was different
1464 00:57:52,033 00:57:53,818 that involved leaving the ground. that involved leaving the ground.
1465 00:57:53,861 00:57:55,863 - But again, is it definitive? - But again, is it definitive?
1466 00:57:55,907 00:57:57,430 No. No.
1467 00:57:57,474 00:58:01,303 - People can legitimatelycontest a jump shot, - People can legitimatelycontest a jump shot,
1468 00:58:01,347 00:58:02,653 but not "the jump shot". but not "the jump shot".
1469 00:58:05,351 00:58:08,310 [footsteps thudding] [footsteps thudding]
1470 00:58:08,354 00:58:11,705 - The real thing that separatesKenny from everyone else, - The real thing that separatesKenny from everyone else,
1471 00:58:11,749 00:58:13,446 if you're talking about a jump shot, if you're talking about a jump shot,
1472 00:58:13,490 00:58:15,796 is Kenny gave it its coming out party. is Kenny gave it its coming out party.
1473 00:58:17,929 00:58:18,973 - Kids in their community - Kids in their community
1474 00:58:19,017 00:58:20,801 started tryin' to imitate that shot started tryin' to imitate that shot
1475 00:58:20,845 00:58:23,151 as soon as they saw it in "Life Magazine". as soon as they saw it in "Life Magazine".
1476 00:58:24,892 00:58:27,591 I had people tell me, even ballplayers tell me I had people tell me, even ballplayers tell me
1477 00:58:27,634 00:58:30,985 that that's the first pictureI ever saw of a jump shot. that that's the first pictureI ever saw of a jump shot.
1478 00:58:31,029 00:58:32,770 - We've talked about what it meant to be - We've talked about what it meant to be
1479 00:58:32,813 00:58:36,643 on the main stage of MadisonSquare Garden in 1943. on the main stage of MadisonSquare Garden in 1943.
1480 00:58:36,687 00:58:40,821 "Life Magazine" was every bitas impactful, if not more. "Life Magazine" was every bitas impactful, if not more.
1481 00:58:42,214 00:58:44,695 - So here's this "Life Magazine" picture, - So here's this "Life Magazine" picture,
1482 00:58:44,738 00:58:47,698 read by and looked at by kids like me read by and looked at by kids like me
1483 00:58:47,741 00:58:50,918 all over the country, saying,"What is happening here?" all over the country, saying,"What is happening here?"
1484 00:58:50,962 00:58:52,790 - "Life Magazine" was such a dominant - "Life Magazine" was such a dominant
1485 00:58:52,833 00:58:55,357 publication at the time that, you know, publication at the time that, you know,
1486 00:58:55,401 00:58:57,664 millions of people see this shot, millions of people see this shot,
1487 00:58:57,708 00:59:00,449 and they realize thatsomeone has done something and they realize thatsomeone has done something
1488 00:59:00,493 00:59:01,886 that they don't normally see. that they don't normally see.
1489 00:59:01,929 00:59:04,366 - [Male] Today, guys aretrained to go straight up, - [Male] Today, guys aretrained to go straight up,
1490 00:59:04,410 00:59:06,151 but there was nobodytelling him how to do it, but there was nobodytelling him how to do it,
1491 00:59:06,194 00:59:07,718 because nobody had done it. because nobody had done it.
1492 00:59:07,761 00:59:10,764 - [Male] Kids saw it, and thenthey went and tried to do it. - [Male] Kids saw it, and thenthey went and tried to do it.
1493 00:59:12,287 00:59:13,724 - [Male] Well, I used myjump shot everywhere I went. - [Male] Well, I used myjump shot everywhere I went.
1494 00:59:13,767 00:59:16,814 In fact, when I played with Providence, In fact, when I played with Providence,
1495 00:59:16,857 00:59:19,077 they required me to goaround to the high school, they required me to goaround to the high school,
1496 00:59:19,120 00:59:22,384 and hold clinics on how toshoot the jump shot, yeah. and hold clinics on how toshoot the jump shot, yeah.
1497 00:59:22,428 00:59:24,822 I kinda enjoyed that, so. I kinda enjoyed that, so.
1498 00:59:24,865 00:59:26,824 - You could use it as anargument to prove time travel. - You could use it as anargument to prove time travel.
1499 00:59:26,867 00:59:31,916 I mean, it looks like thisguy from last night's NBA game I mean, it looks like thisguy from last night's NBA game
1500 00:59:31,959 00:59:33,657 was plopped down into the era was plopped down into the era
1501 00:59:33,700 00:59:36,355 of black leather shoes and tight shorts. of black leather shoes and tight shorts.
1502 00:59:36,398 00:59:38,400 This was the shot that changed the game, This was the shot that changed the game,
1503 00:59:38,444 00:59:40,838 but nobody realized, when he came down but nobody realized, when he came down
1504 00:59:40,881 00:59:42,666 the world was gonna be different. the world was gonna be different.
1505 00:59:42,709 00:59:44,319 [car engines roaring] [car engines roaring]
1506 00:59:44,363 00:59:45,407 - [Larry] Here, let me clean you off here. - [Larry] Here, let me clean you off here.
1507 00:59:45,451 00:59:46,583 - I got it. - I got it.
1508 00:59:46,626 00:59:48,367 [banging] [banging]
1509 00:59:48,410 00:59:50,761 Keep it just like it is in the front, Larry. Keep it just like it is in the front, Larry.
1510 00:59:50,804 00:59:53,024 - It's just amazing to me - It's just amazing to me
1511 00:59:53,067 00:59:55,896 that with all the evidence we've piled up that with all the evidence we've piled up
1512 00:59:55,940 00:59:57,811 in the last 10 years, you know, in the last 10 years, you know,
1513 00:59:57,855 01:00:00,466 and he still denies culpability. and he still denies culpability.
1514 01:00:00,509 01:00:02,555 - And who knows, back in the 1800s, - And who knows, back in the 1800s,
1515 01:00:02,599 01:00:05,689 some kid out in PodunkHigh could jump in the air, some kid out in PodunkHigh could jump in the air,
1516 01:00:05,732 01:00:07,865 and throw the ball, couldn't he? and throw the ball, couldn't he?
1517 01:00:07,908 01:00:10,041 It's a jump shot if his feet leaves the floor. It's a jump shot if his feet leaves the floor.
1518 01:00:11,216 01:00:12,652 - [Male] He's not the type of individual - [Male] He's not the type of individual
1519 01:00:12,696 01:00:14,611 who's going to speak against who's going to speak against
1520 01:00:14,654 01:00:16,482 the accomplishments of other people. the accomplishments of other people.
1521 01:00:16,525 01:00:19,790 When I spoke to Kenny,he was careful to confine When I spoke to Kenny,he was careful to confine
1522 01:00:19,833 01:00:22,314 absolutes to what he knew. absolutes to what he knew.
1523 01:00:22,357 01:00:23,794 - [Male] Kenny won't tellyou that he's the first. - [Male] Kenny won't tellyou that he's the first.
1524 01:00:23,837 01:00:25,273 You know, he's too humble for that. You know, he's too humble for that.
1525 01:00:25,317 01:00:26,884 - [Male] But he's happy to tell ya - [Male] But he's happy to tell ya
1526 01:00:26,927 01:00:29,103 that this is what otherplayers in my era thought. that this is what otherplayers in my era thought.
1527 01:00:29,147 01:00:31,671 - Ray Meyer from DePaul, hesaid it the best, I think. - Ray Meyer from DePaul, hesaid it the best, I think.
1528 01:00:31,715 01:00:33,499 "Sailors may not have been the first player "Sailors may not have been the first player
1529 01:00:33,542 01:00:34,979 to jump in the air, and shoot the ball, to jump in the air, and shoot the ball,
1530 01:00:35,022 01:00:37,677 but he developed the shotthat's being used today." but he developed the shotthat's being used today."
1531 01:00:37,721 01:00:42,377 [dramatic instrumental music playing] [dramatic instrumental music playing]
1532 01:00:46,338 01:00:47,687 - In case he hasn't seen it, - In case he hasn't seen it,
1533 01:00:47,731 01:00:51,343 I'm gonna bring him a copyof the nomination packet I'm gonna bring him a copyof the nomination packet
1534 01:00:51,386 01:00:54,476 for the Naismith Hall ofFame, and he may have seen it. for the Naismith Hall ofFame, and he may have seen it.
1535 01:00:54,520 01:00:57,218 I'm not sure, but I'm just bringing one along. I'm not sure, but I'm just bringing one along.
1536 01:00:57,262 01:00:59,699 The nomination packet we have for Kenny Sailors The nomination packet we have for Kenny Sailors
1537 01:00:59,743 01:01:01,788 is a knock your socks off package. is a knock your socks off package.
1538 01:01:04,182 01:01:05,313 [knocking] [knocking]
1539 01:01:05,357 01:01:06,314 - Come in, Jim! - Come in, Jim!
1540 01:01:07,664 01:01:08,926 - Where's my buddy? - Where's my buddy?
1541 01:01:08,969 01:01:10,754 [laughing] There he is. [laughing] There he is.
1542 01:01:11,711 01:01:12,886 - [Kenny] How you doin'? - [Kenny] How you doin'?
1543 01:01:12,930 01:01:14,322 - Kenny was fortunate when he came back - Kenny was fortunate when he came back
1544 01:01:14,366 01:01:16,673 that there were somepeople in his inner circle that there were somepeople in his inner circle
1545 01:01:16,716 01:01:17,978 who cared about his legacy. who cared about his legacy.
1546 01:01:18,022 01:01:20,328 - Have you seen the packetfor the Hall of Fame? - Have you seen the packetfor the Hall of Fame?
1547 01:01:20,372 01:01:21,721 Have you seen one of those?- No, Have you seen one of those?- No,
1548 01:01:21,765 01:01:22,940 I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it.
1549 01:01:22,983 01:01:25,899 "Developer of the modern jump shot." "Developer of the modern jump shot."
1550 01:01:25,943 01:01:27,945 Yeah, that's pretty accurate. Yeah, that's pretty accurate.
1551 01:01:27,988 01:01:31,557 That looks like the-- - This is Utah State That looks like the-- - This is Utah State
1552 01:01:31,600 01:01:33,080 in Hells Half Acre. in Hells Half Acre.
1553 01:01:33,124 01:01:35,735 Now, there's your "Life Magazine" shot. Now, there's your "Life Magazine" shot.
1554 01:01:35,779 01:01:36,649 - Yeah. - Yeah.
1555 01:01:36,693 01:01:37,824 And that crazy jump shot, And that crazy jump shot,
1556 01:01:37,868 01:01:39,696 it's really got me into trouble. it's really got me into trouble.
1557 01:01:40,958 01:01:43,743 It's bigger than Ithought it would ever be. It's bigger than Ithought it would ever be.
1558 01:01:43,787 01:01:47,051 I never give a thought backwhen I was first developin' it I never give a thought backwhen I was first developin' it
1559 01:01:47,094 01:01:49,444 that it would develop intosomethin' like it is today. that it would develop intosomethin' like it is today.
1560 01:01:49,488 01:01:51,316 - The sport of basketball'sseen many names - The sport of basketball'sseen many names
1561 01:01:51,359 01:01:52,709 shape its rich history, shape its rich history,
1562 01:01:52,752 01:01:54,754 but there's one name that escapes memory. but there's one name that escapes memory.
1563 01:01:54,798 01:01:55,799 - Not only is Kenny Sailors - Not only is Kenny Sailors
1564 01:01:55,842 01:01:57,148 one of the great players of all time, one of the great players of all time,
1565 01:01:57,191 01:01:58,279 he's the guy who first thought of the idea he's the guy who first thought of the idea
1566 01:01:58,323 01:01:59,933 of shooting a jump shot. of shooting a jump shot.
1567 01:01:59,977 01:02:04,285 - As aplayer/pioneer/contributor,Sailors has few equals. - As aplayer/pioneer/contributor,Sailors has few equals.
1568 01:02:05,809 01:02:07,158 - For where would basketballbe without Kenny Sailors, - For where would basketballbe without Kenny Sailors,
1569 01:02:07,201 01:02:09,769 and what is known today as the jump shot? and what is known today as the jump shot?
1570 01:02:09,813 01:02:12,859 - [Male] We've had CBS comeout, and do a feature on him. - [Male] We've had CBS comeout, and do a feature on him.
1571 01:02:12,903 01:02:16,254 - [Male] The University ofWyoming has done a tremendous - [Male] The University ofWyoming has done a tremendous
1572 01:02:16,297 01:02:20,345 service to unearth thisstory in the last 10 years. service to unearth thisstory in the last 10 years.
1573 01:02:21,520 01:02:22,782 - [Male] It's not about Kenny, to him, - [Male] It's not about Kenny, to him,
1574 01:02:22,826 01:02:24,828 but he does it to raise the bar but he does it to raise the bar
1575 01:02:24,871 01:02:26,177 for the University of Wyoming, for the University of Wyoming,
1576 01:02:26,220 01:02:28,701 and raise the bar for his teammates. and raise the bar for his teammates.
1577 01:02:28,745 01:02:29,615 - [Male] The "New York Daily News" - [Male] The "New York Daily News"
1578 01:02:29,658 01:02:31,704 did a feature on him last year. did a feature on him last year.
1579 01:02:31,748 01:02:34,446 - Kenny Sailors is not just a Wyoming treasure, - Kenny Sailors is not just a Wyoming treasure,
1580 01:02:34,489 01:02:35,926 but he's a treasure for the game. but he's a treasure for the game.
1581 01:02:35,969 01:02:40,669 - He led Wyoming to the 1943 NCAA Championships. - He led Wyoming to the 1943 NCAA Championships.
1582 01:02:40,713 01:02:41,714 They did beat Georgetown. They did beat Georgetown.
1583 01:02:41,758 01:02:42,802 Patrick did not play in that game. Patrick did not play in that game.
1584 01:02:42,846 01:02:44,325 He's not quite that old. He's not quite that old.
1585 01:02:44,369 01:02:46,806 - Sailors belongs in theNaismith Memorial Hall of Fame. - Sailors belongs in theNaismith Memorial Hall of Fame.
1586 01:02:46,850 01:02:48,329 I mean, you've got the guy I mean, you've got the guy
1587 01:02:48,373 01:02:50,114 who invented the 24-secondshot clock in the Hall of Fame. who invented the 24-secondshot clock in the Hall of Fame.
1588 01:02:50,157 01:02:52,116 You can't get the guy whoinvented the jump shot You can't get the guy whoinvented the jump shot
1589 01:02:52,159 01:02:53,073 in the Hall of Fame? in the Hall of Fame?
1590 01:02:53,117 01:02:55,162 [upbeat rock music playing] [upbeat rock music playing]
1591 01:02:55,206 01:02:57,382 - [Male] He was involved in an ESPN special, - [Male] He was involved in an ESPN special,
1592 01:02:57,425 01:03:00,515 narrating for the 75thanniversary of the Final Four. narrating for the 75thanniversary of the Final Four.
1593 01:03:00,559 01:03:02,822 - Who better a person to narrate a story - Who better a person to narrate a story
1594 01:03:02,866 01:03:04,824 about the history of the NCA Tournament about the history of the NCA Tournament
1595 01:03:04,868 01:03:07,174 than the man who invented the jump shot? than the man who invented the jump shot?
1596 01:03:07,218 01:03:08,436 - [Announcer] Please give a round of applause - [Announcer] Please give a round of applause
1597 01:03:08,480 01:03:11,396 for Kenny Sailors. [audience applauding] for Kenny Sailors. [audience applauding]
1598 01:03:11,439 01:03:12,701 - You know, since I've been here, - You know, since I've been here,
1599 01:03:12,745 01:03:14,834 I've been asked by quite a few people, I've been asked by quite a few people,
1600 01:03:14,878 01:03:17,097 you know, if I'm happy to be here. you know, if I'm happy to be here.
1601 01:03:18,316 01:03:21,710 And, you know, at 92-years of age And, you know, at 92-years of age
1602 01:03:21,754 01:03:22,886 you're happy to be anywhere. you're happy to be anywhere.
1603 01:03:22,929 01:03:24,844 [laughing] [laughing]
1604 01:03:24,888 01:03:27,847 [people chattering] [people chattering]
1605 01:03:29,457 01:03:31,895 - [Male] I always marveledat how he'd come up here, - [Male] I always marveledat how he'd come up here,
1606 01:03:31,938 01:03:35,376 he's 92-years-old, and he'd walk the arena he's 92-years-old, and he'd walk the arena
1607 01:03:35,420 01:03:39,511 as if he was a, I don'tknow, 60 or 70-year-old guy. as if he was a, I don'tknow, 60 or 70-year-old guy.
1608 01:03:39,554 01:03:40,904 - [Male] Kenny's always in the outdoors, - [Male] Kenny's always in the outdoors,
1609 01:03:40,947 01:03:42,731 and he's always playin' basketball, and he's always playin' basketball,
1610 01:03:42,775 01:03:44,733 and he always stayed in shape. and he always stayed in shape.
1611 01:03:44,777 01:03:45,822 - [Male] And he could go out and shoot - [Male] And he could go out and shoot
1612 01:03:45,865 01:03:47,562 left-handed, right-handed on a court, left-handed, right-handed on a court,
1613 01:03:47,606 01:03:49,260 put up layups, little hook shots. put up layups, little hook shots.
1614 01:03:49,303 01:03:52,872 - He was dribblin' thebasketball between his legs. - He was dribblin' thebasketball between his legs.
1615 01:03:52,916 01:03:55,875 For God sake, I can't even find my leg. For God sake, I can't even find my leg.
1616 01:03:55,919 01:03:58,486 - He can yo-yo up and down crosswise, - He can yo-yo up and down crosswise,
1617 01:03:58,530 01:04:00,880 and he could still do all this stuff today. and he could still do all this stuff today.
1618 01:04:00,924 01:04:04,753 You won't see many 90-plus-year-olds being able to do that. You won't see many 90-plus-year-olds being able to do that.
1619 01:04:04,797 01:04:05,711 [laughing] [laughing]
1620 01:04:05,754 01:04:07,582 - That was my jump shot. - That was my jump shot.
1621 01:04:07,626 01:04:10,020 - You take away all the business, all the media, - You take away all the business, all the media,
1622 01:04:10,063 01:04:11,978 all the hype around the game, all the hype around the game,
1623 01:04:12,022 01:04:16,113 and you wanna see purelove, look at Kenny Sailors. and you wanna see purelove, look at Kenny Sailors.
1624 01:04:16,156 01:04:18,724 [crowd cheering] [announcer shouting] [crowd cheering] [announcer shouting]
1625 01:04:18,767 01:04:22,728 - Kenny is still around, andeverybody sees him at games. - Kenny is still around, andeverybody sees him at games.
1626 01:04:22,771 01:04:24,773 People like to be around him. People like to be around him.
1627 01:04:24,817 01:04:27,689 Children, they wanna get his autograph. Children, they wanna get his autograph.
1628 01:04:27,733 01:04:30,388 - Was goin' to Wyomingpractices at 80-years-old, - Was goin' to Wyomingpractices at 80-years-old,
1629 01:04:30,431 01:04:32,390 like, I know I probably, like, I know I probably,
1630 01:04:32,433 01:04:33,870 if I've been playin' the game for that long, if I've been playin' the game for that long,
1631 01:04:33,913 01:04:35,393 I'm not going to a random practice I'm not going to a random practice
1632 01:04:35,436 01:04:37,264 on a Tuesday and Wednesdayjust to check it out. on a Tuesday and Wednesdayjust to check it out.
1633 01:04:37,308 01:04:38,918 That's just love for the game. That's just love for the game.
1634 01:04:40,528 01:04:42,879 - [Kenny] I practiced a littlebit, [speaking faintly]. - [Kenny] I practiced a littlebit, [speaking faintly].
1635 01:04:43,705 01:04:45,272 - Ready? - Ready. - Ready? - Ready.
1636 01:04:45,316 01:04:46,447 - You'd look at him and say, - You'd look at him and say,
1637 01:04:46,491 01:04:48,710 "I think Kenny Sailors could go on", "I think Kenny Sailors could go on",
1638 01:04:48,754 01:04:51,713 who's know how long hecould go on, in the 100s. who's know how long hecould go on, in the 100s.
1639 01:04:51,757 01:04:53,237 - I know I'm an old man, - I know I'm an old man,
1640 01:04:53,280 01:04:56,544 and I know I can't dotoday what I did when I was and I know I can't dotoday what I did when I was
1641 01:04:57,763 01:05:01,027 even in my 70s, even come close to it. even in my 70s, even come close to it.
1642 01:05:01,071 01:05:04,161 Yeah, I was still guidin'some when I was in my 70s. Yeah, I was still guidin'some when I was in my 70s.
1643 01:05:04,204 01:05:06,119 Yeah, and I could climb that mountain Yeah, and I could climb that mountain
1644 01:05:06,163 01:05:07,729 after that white sheep, and stuff, after that white sheep, and stuff,
1645 01:05:07,773 01:05:09,862 but that was still, you know, but that was still, you know,
1646 01:05:09,906 01:05:10,863 I shouldn't have been, probably, I shouldn't have been, probably,
1647 01:05:10,907 01:05:12,517 because it is dangerous. because it is dangerous.
1648 01:05:12,560 01:05:15,085 And I can still talk withpeople pretty well, so. And I can still talk withpeople pretty well, so.
1649 01:05:15,128 01:05:18,392 And I can still do the thingsthat someone my age can do. And I can still do the thingsthat someone my age can do.
1650 01:05:18,436 01:05:21,004 It's the physical things that I can't do, yeah, It's the physical things that I can't do, yeah,
1651 01:05:21,047 01:05:22,788 and I don't even wanna try. and I don't even wanna try.
1652 01:05:24,442 01:05:26,270 I wanna stay as healthy as I can I wanna stay as healthy as I can
1653 01:05:26,313 01:05:28,315 up until the time I get out of here. up until the time I get out of here.
1654 01:05:28,359 01:05:30,448 I don't wanna have to go into a nursing home, I don't wanna have to go into a nursing home,
1655 01:05:30,491 01:05:32,885 or spend a long time in the hospital, or spend a long time in the hospital,
1656 01:05:32,929 01:05:34,843 or somethin', you know? or somethin', you know?
1657 01:05:34,887 01:05:36,933 I don't want people to have the trouble I don't want people to have the trouble
1658 01:05:36,976 01:05:38,804 of tryin' to take care of me when I get older. of tryin' to take care of me when I get older.
1659 01:05:38,847 01:05:40,110 There's the whole thing. There's the whole thing.
1660 01:05:40,153 01:05:42,068 [somber instrumental music playing] [somber instrumental music playing]
1661 01:05:42,112 01:05:44,853 [birds chirping] [birds chirping]
1662 01:05:52,078 01:05:52,905 Yeah. Yeah.
1663 01:05:54,820 01:05:55,603 Okay. Okay.
1664 01:05:59,781 01:06:01,392 Okay, I got her. Okay, I got her.
1665 01:06:04,917 01:06:07,398 - [Male] Well, Kenny'sslowed down a little bit, - [Male] Well, Kenny'sslowed down a little bit,
1666 01:06:07,441 01:06:09,878 and remarkably so, will tell you. and remarkably so, will tell you.
1667 01:06:12,055 01:06:13,882 He doesn't like getting out quite as much He doesn't like getting out quite as much
1668 01:06:13,926 01:06:16,668 just 'cause it's harderfor him to stand and walk just 'cause it's harderfor him to stand and walk
1669 01:06:16,711 01:06:18,061 for extended periods of time. for extended periods of time.
1670 01:06:21,847 01:06:24,110 - What's amazing for a man who's been so proud - What's amazing for a man who's been so proud
1671 01:06:24,154 01:06:26,330 of what he could do for so long on his own, of what he could do for so long on his own,
1672 01:06:26,373 01:06:28,375 he's accepted these thingswith a lot of grace, he's accepted these thingswith a lot of grace,
1673 01:06:28,419 01:06:29,942 and that's not easy. and that's not easy.
1674 01:06:29,986 01:06:31,074 - [Kenny] Well, hi, Betty. - [Kenny] Well, hi, Betty.
1675 01:06:32,205 01:06:33,511 - [Kelly] He focuses on the positive, - [Kelly] He focuses on the positive,
1676 01:06:33,554 01:06:35,252 and I think that's why he's the person he is, and I think that's why he's the person he is,
1677 01:06:35,295 01:06:37,994 and the person he hasbeen for quite some time. and the person he hasbeen for quite some time.
1678 01:06:38,037 01:06:39,212 - Sat over here. - Sat over here.
1679 01:06:39,256 01:06:41,171 - He still feels like he has a purpose, - He still feels like he has a purpose,
1680 01:06:41,214 01:06:44,304 that's what keeps him goin',and makes him most fulfilled. that's what keeps him goin',and makes him most fulfilled.
1681 01:06:44,348 01:06:45,697 - I tried to get him to - I tried to get him to
1682 01:06:45,740 01:06:47,046 pay attention to me. - There you go. pay attention to me. - There you go.
1683 01:06:47,090 01:06:48,047 - You never did. - You never did.
1684 01:06:48,091 01:06:49,396 - She's lyin'. - She's lyin'.
1685 01:06:49,440 01:06:51,529 You know, it was just the other way around. You know, it was just the other way around.
1686 01:06:51,572 01:06:52,791 - Yeah, ha.- She wouldn't look at me. - Yeah, ha.- She wouldn't look at me.
1687 01:06:52,834 01:06:54,314 - Ha ha ha. - Yeah, she wouldn't - Ha ha ha. - Yeah, she wouldn't
1688 01:06:54,358 01:06:56,664 have anything to do with me.- Yeah. have anything to do with me.- Yeah.
1689 01:06:56,708 01:06:59,145 - Here, I thought you were thegreatest girl in high school. - Here, I thought you were thegreatest girl in high school.
1690 01:06:59,189 01:07:00,451 - Oh, baloney. - Oh, baloney.
1691 01:07:00,494 01:07:01,974 [laughing] [laughing]
1692 01:07:02,018 01:07:03,758 - Kenny's always had a good sense of humor. - Kenny's always had a good sense of humor.
1693 01:07:03,802 01:07:07,066 He is not too proud toaccept kidding about himself. He is not too proud toaccept kidding about himself.
1694 01:07:07,110 01:07:08,372 - Be careful with that hat. - Be careful with that hat.
1695 01:07:08,415 01:07:10,200 I mean, I don't want you to get it dirty. I mean, I don't want you to get it dirty.
1696 01:07:10,243 01:07:12,463 - [Bill] I don't wanna geta disease from this hat. - [Bill] I don't wanna geta disease from this hat.
1697 01:07:12,506 01:07:14,987 That's a stinky, smelly, old hat That's a stinky, smelly, old hat
1698 01:07:15,031 01:07:16,293 - Oh, come on, Bill. - that should be - Oh, come on, Bill. - that should be
1699 01:07:16,336 01:07:18,164 probably buried outside with a skunk. probably buried outside with a skunk.
1700 01:07:18,208 01:07:22,821 - Ha, yeah, that hat's got a lot of prestige, - Ha, yeah, that hat's got a lot of prestige,
1701 01:07:22,864 01:07:24,301 and I'll tell ya, and I'll tell ya,
1702 01:07:24,344 01:07:25,954 well, you can tell by lookin' at it. well, you can tell by lookin' at it.
1703 01:07:25,998 01:07:27,782 - Well, it looks like alot of interesting things - Well, it looks like alot of interesting things
1704 01:07:27,826 01:07:29,132 have happened to this hat, probably a lot have happened to this hat, probably a lot
1705 01:07:29,175 01:07:30,698 more than sweat. - Well, the horse more than sweat. - Well, the horse
1706 01:07:30,742 01:07:33,049 drank water out of it, and ate oats out of it, drank water out of it, and ate oats out of it,
1707 01:07:33,092 01:07:36,443 and we did all sorts of things with that hat. and we did all sorts of things with that hat.
1708 01:07:36,487 01:07:38,271 - What else did you-- - I drank out of it. - What else did you-- - I drank out of it.
1709 01:07:38,315 01:07:40,926 But you can tell by lookin'at it, it's had a few years. But you can tell by lookin'at it, it's had a few years.
1710 01:07:40,969 01:07:42,275 - So can I put this on your head - So can I put this on your head
1711 01:07:42,319 01:07:43,929 just to see what it looks like today? just to see what it looks like today?
1712 01:07:43,972 01:07:48,107 I think it's good for him,and for me, to test his wit. I think it's good for him,and for me, to test his wit.
1713 01:07:48,760 01:07:50,283 Keeps him sharp. Keeps him sharp.
1714 01:07:50,327 01:07:53,504 He's gotta have comebacks,and he can dish it right back. He's gotta have comebacks,and he can dish it right back.
1715 01:07:53,547 01:07:56,550 - I treat this hat with a lot of respect, Bill. - I treat this hat with a lot of respect, Bill.
1716 01:07:56,594 01:07:57,682 - [Bill] It doesn't deserve any. - [Bill] It doesn't deserve any.
1717 01:07:57,725 01:07:59,858 [laughing] [laughing]
1718 01:07:59,901 01:08:01,120 [shoes squeaking [balls thudding] [shoes squeaking [balls thudding]
1719 01:08:01,164 01:08:05,951 [players chattering incoherently] [players chattering incoherently]
1720 01:08:05,994 01:08:08,388 - [Larry] Anytime Kenny's in the building, - [Larry] Anytime Kenny's in the building,
1721 01:08:08,432 01:08:11,217 I wanna make sure heunderstands the love's there. I wanna make sure heunderstands the love's there.
1722 01:08:11,261 01:08:12,436 - Hi, Coach. - Hi, Coach.
1723 01:08:12,479 01:08:14,002 Excuse me for not gettin' up. Excuse me for not gettin' up.
1724 01:08:14,046 01:08:15,308 - You don't have to get up. - You don't have to get up.
1725 01:08:15,352 01:08:16,918 I'm supposed to get up for the old man. I'm supposed to get up for the old man.
1726 01:08:16,962 01:08:18,442 You're not supposed toget up for the young man. You're not supposed toget up for the young man.
1727 01:08:18,485 01:08:19,225 - Okay. - Okay.
1728 01:08:19,269 01:08:20,052 - How you doin'? - How you doin'?
1729 01:08:20,096 01:08:20,966 - He wanders our halls. - He wanders our halls.
1730 01:08:21,009 01:08:22,489 He comes to our games. He comes to our games.
1731 01:08:22,533 01:08:23,925 He hugs our kids when we lose. He hugs our kids when we lose.
1732 01:08:23,969 01:08:25,492 He hugs our kids when we win. He hugs our kids when we win.
1733 01:08:25,536 01:08:28,321 We're fortunate that he'sbeen part of our experience. We're fortunate that he'sbeen part of our experience.
1734 01:08:29,714 01:08:31,194 - Three-up, guys. - Three-up, guys.
1735 01:08:31,237 01:08:34,588 - Sometimes what you give getsthrown back to you tenfold, - Sometimes what you give getsthrown back to you tenfold,
1736 01:08:34,632 01:08:35,850 and that's the dream, I think, and that's the dream, I think,
1737 01:08:35,894 01:08:37,852 all of us have for Kenny Sailors. all of us have for Kenny Sailors.
1738 01:08:37,896 01:08:38,853 - [Kenny] You bet. - [Kenny] You bet.
1739 01:08:38,897 01:08:40,072 - [Male] He's already put his name - [Male] He's already put his name
1740 01:08:40,116 01:08:41,247 amongst the greatest college players, amongst the greatest college players,
1741 01:08:41,291 01:08:43,336 he and the College Basketball Hall of Fame, he and the College Basketball Hall of Fame,
1742 01:08:43,380 01:08:44,555 but it would be great for him to be but it would be great for him to be
1743 01:08:44,598 01:08:45,860 in the Naismith Hall of Fame, in the Naismith Hall of Fame,
1744 01:08:45,904 01:08:47,558 and have his name with all those great and have his name with all those great
1745 01:08:47,601 01:08:49,821 college and professional players. college and professional players.
1746 01:08:49,864 01:08:51,562 - [Male] Everyone who knows his story - [Male] Everyone who knows his story
1747 01:08:51,605 01:08:53,259 would love to see this happen for him would love to see this happen for him
1748 01:08:53,303 01:08:55,000 when he can appreciate it, when he can live it, when he can appreciate it, when he can live it,
1749 01:08:55,043 01:08:56,610 when he can know that he went down when he can know that he went down
1750 01:08:56,654 01:08:58,046 with the greatest basketball players ever, with the greatest basketball players ever,
1751 01:08:58,090 01:08:58,960 and he'll be there forever. and he'll be there forever.
1752 01:08:59,004 01:09:00,614 He deserves to know that. He deserves to know that.
1753 01:09:01,920 01:09:03,878 - [Male] The sooner the election, the better. - [Male] The sooner the election, the better.
1754 01:09:03,922 01:09:06,359 - It's a borrowed time situation. - It's a borrowed time situation.
1755 01:09:06,403 01:09:08,405 It would be great right now. It would be great right now.
1756 01:09:08,448 01:09:12,887 [upbeat music playing]- Please welcome your host [upbeat music playing]- Please welcome your host
1757 01:09:12,931 01:09:14,324 for the NBA All-Star for the NBA All-Star
1758 01:09:14,367 01:09:17,457 Naismith Memorial Hall of Fame announcement-- Naismith Memorial Hall of Fame announcement--
1759 01:09:17,501 01:09:18,719 - It is a big day. - It is a big day.
1760 01:09:18,763 01:09:20,721 A lot of people have worked a lot. A lot of people have worked a lot.
1761 01:09:20,765 01:09:22,419 - Yeah, you know, this weekend, - Yeah, you know, this weekend,
1762 01:09:22,462 01:09:24,072 hopefully we'll get some good news. hopefully we'll get some good news.
1763 01:09:24,116 01:09:28,468 - It's so exciting justthinking about if it happens. - It's so exciting justthinking about if it happens.
1764 01:09:28,512 01:09:30,731 - I think Kenny's probablyhandelin' it the best. - I think Kenny's probablyhandelin' it the best.
1765 01:09:30,775 01:09:32,516 But for those of us who really would like But for those of us who really would like
1766 01:09:32,559 01:09:33,821 to see him get this honor, to see him get this honor,
1767 01:09:33,865 01:09:35,606 we're probably a little more anxious than he is. we're probably a little more anxious than he is.
1768 01:09:35,649 01:09:36,737 - Good morning, everybody, - Good morning, everybody,
1769 01:09:36,781 01:09:38,130 and thank you for joining us here. and thank you for joining us here.
1770 01:09:38,174 01:09:39,610 A very special welcome to A very special welcome to
1771 01:09:39,653 01:09:41,307 all of our friendswatching around the world all of our friendswatching around the world
1772 01:09:41,351 01:09:42,961 on NBA-- - Well, that's the on NBA-- - Well, that's the
1773 01:09:43,004 01:09:45,616 million dollar question, "Does he have a chance?" million dollar question, "Does he have a chance?"
1774 01:09:45,659 01:09:48,923 - Truthfully, I think they're about 50/50. - Truthfully, I think they're about 50/50.
1775 01:09:48,967 01:09:50,273 It should be 100%. It should be 100%.
1776 01:09:50,316 01:09:52,275 - We need to get to now the introduction - We need to get to now the introduction
1777 01:09:52,318 01:09:56,453 of the first members of theHall of Fame class of 2015. of the first members of theHall of Fame class of 2015.
1778 01:10:02,328 01:10:03,242 - [Jim] Oh, shit. - [Jim] Oh, shit.
1779 01:10:10,554 01:10:12,338 I'm so down in some ways, I'm so down in some ways,
1780 01:10:12,382 01:10:14,819 and then I'm so pissed off in other ways. and then I'm so pissed off in other ways.
1781 01:10:14,862 01:10:18,649 And to me, it goes back to the two basic areas. And to me, it goes back to the two basic areas.
1782 01:10:18,692 01:10:22,870 One, it happened so long ago it's not relevant. One, it happened so long ago it's not relevant.
1783 01:10:22,914 01:10:24,785 And then the second part of it is, And then the second part of it is,
1784 01:10:24,829 01:10:28,093 we just haven't reallyproved our case well enough. we just haven't reallyproved our case well enough.
1785 01:10:29,312 01:10:30,878 I need to sit down, and think about this, I need to sit down, and think about this,
1786 01:10:30,922 01:10:32,010 and I think all of us do. and I think all of us do.
1787 01:10:32,053 01:10:35,796 But from winning you get some feedback, But from winning you get some feedback,
1788 01:10:35,840 01:10:37,494 and from losing you get some feedback, and from losing you get some feedback,
1789 01:10:37,537 01:10:40,148 and I think that we get all our ducks in a row, and I think that we get all our ducks in a row,
1790 01:10:40,192 01:10:42,890 and then we bang 'em early for next year. and then we bang 'em early for next year.
1791 01:10:42,934 01:10:45,066 Please believe me, this aint finished. Please believe me, this aint finished.
1792 01:10:46,590 01:10:48,809 - When Kenny Sailors getsinto the Hall of Fame - When Kenny Sailors getsinto the Hall of Fame
1793 01:10:48,853 01:10:51,812 it will, unfortunately, be a ripple. it will, unfortunately, be a ripple.
1794 01:10:51,856 01:10:53,510 Not with a bang, but a whimper. Not with a bang, but a whimper.
1795 01:10:55,555 01:10:56,948 It will, however, It will, however,
1796 01:10:56,991 01:11:00,212 complete the Naismith MemorialBasketball Hall of Fame, complete the Naismith MemorialBasketball Hall of Fame,
1797 01:11:00,256 01:11:02,083 because right now it's incomplete, because right now it's incomplete,
1798 01:11:02,127 01:11:04,999 and it can't be complete without Kenny. and it can't be complete without Kenny.
1799 01:11:05,043 01:11:06,000 - The evidence is there. - The evidence is there.
1800 01:11:06,044 01:11:07,175 It's been there. It's been there.
1801 01:11:07,219 01:11:08,829 You're hopin' that over time, You're hopin' that over time,
1802 01:11:08,873 01:11:12,050 maybe the next year somehow,they see it differently maybe the next year somehow,they see it differently
1803 01:11:12,093 01:11:13,834 than they saw it a year before. than they saw it a year before.
1804 01:11:13,878 01:11:16,750 But I just don't think peopleare gonna appreciate something But I just don't think peopleare gonna appreciate something
1805 01:11:16,794 01:11:19,318 that happened, in their eyes, so long ago. that happened, in their eyes, so long ago.
1806 01:11:19,362 01:11:21,973 - His name, his accolades,it's just his whole legacy - His name, his accolades,it's just his whole legacy
1807 01:11:22,016 01:11:23,104 should be in the Hall of Fame, should be in the Hall of Fame,
1808 01:11:23,148 01:11:24,671 and his family deserves that as well. and his family deserves that as well.
1809 01:11:26,064 01:11:28,414 We're gonna keep fightinguntil we get him in there. We're gonna keep fightinguntil we get him in there.
1810 01:11:28,458 01:11:32,723 - The game is built onwhat the pioneers have done - The game is built onwhat the pioneers have done
1811 01:11:32,766 01:11:36,335 in every era, and we owe 'em a lot, in every era, and we owe 'em a lot,
1812 01:11:36,379 01:11:38,381 because that's the foundation of the game, because that's the foundation of the game,
1813 01:11:38,424 01:11:40,339 and you see trial and error, and you see trial and error,
1814 01:11:40,383 01:11:43,560 you see innovation atthat time, and new things, you see innovation atthat time, and new things,
1815 01:11:43,603 01:11:46,258 like Kenny Sailors and the jump shot. like Kenny Sailors and the jump shot.
1816 01:11:46,302 01:11:47,999 - His story has to be told. - His story has to be told.
1817 01:11:48,042 01:11:51,481 Now that I know, I'm gonnatake it to the Hall of Fame. Now that I know, I'm gonnatake it to the Hall of Fame.
1818 01:11:51,524 01:11:55,049 I'm gonna share this storywith other athletes and people I'm gonna share this storywith other athletes and people
1819 01:11:55,093 01:11:59,184 so they know the origin of where this started. so they know the origin of where this started.
1820 01:11:59,227 01:12:03,101 - All of us that have everplayed or coached the game - All of us that have everplayed or coached the game
1821 01:12:03,144 01:12:08,149 should have a picture of KennySailors' ass up somewhere should have a picture of KennySailors' ass up somewhere
1822 01:12:09,673 01:12:13,720 that we can kiss every timewe go into the locker room. that we can kiss every timewe go into the locker room.
1823 01:12:13,764 01:12:15,243 - I want Sailors' family just to know - I want Sailors' family just to know
1824 01:12:15,287 01:12:16,680 that we appreciate him. that we appreciate him.
1825 01:12:16,723 01:12:18,812 We appreciate what he did for the game. We appreciate what he did for the game.
1826 01:12:18,856 01:12:20,553 We appreciate just the level of teaching We appreciate just the level of teaching
1827 01:12:20,597 01:12:23,034 that he brought after hefinished playing the game. that he brought after hefinished playing the game.
1828 01:12:24,383 01:12:25,906 It's just something I've never seen before. It's just something I've never seen before.
1829 01:12:25,950 01:12:29,519 Just to love and care forother people, and for the game, Just to love and care forother people, and for the game,
1830 01:12:29,562 01:12:31,347 that's just an amazing man right there. that's just an amazing man right there.
1831 01:12:31,390 01:12:33,958 - I don't think to this day Kenny is interested - I don't think to this day Kenny is interested
1832 01:12:34,001 01:12:36,569 in his legacy as a jump shooter. in his legacy as a jump shooter.
1833 01:12:36,613 01:12:38,745 He doesn't care that he'sthe first jump shooter. He doesn't care that he'sthe first jump shooter.
1834 01:12:38,789 01:12:40,138 He doesn't even wanna talk about that. He doesn't even wanna talk about that.
1835 01:12:40,181 01:12:42,923 He's interested in talkingabout what he had to do He's interested in talkingabout what he had to do
1836 01:12:42,967 01:12:44,708 to be the best version of himself. to be the best version of himself.
1837 01:12:45,883 01:12:47,798 - There's only one number retired - There's only one number retired
1838 01:12:47,841 01:12:50,888 at the University of Wyoming,and that's number four. at the University of Wyoming,and that's number four.
1839 01:12:50,931 01:12:53,673 If you've got a legacy in that size, If you've got a legacy in that size,
1840 01:12:53,717 01:12:58,374 you've got a high ladder toclimb to reach Kenny Sailors. you've got a high ladder toclimb to reach Kenny Sailors.
1841 01:12:58,417 01:12:59,723 - This is probably the quote - This is probably the quote
1842 01:12:59,766 01:13:01,855 that summed Kenny up the best for me I said, that summed Kenny up the best for me I said,
1843 01:13:01,899 01:13:03,291 "Do you wanna go into the Hall of Fame?" "Do you wanna go into the Hall of Fame?"
1844 01:13:03,335 01:13:05,468 He says, "Oh, sure I wannago into the Hall of Fame". He says, "Oh, sure I wannago into the Hall of Fame".
1845 01:13:05,511 01:13:06,773 "It'd mean a great deal to me." "It'd mean a great deal to me."
1846 01:13:06,817 01:13:08,688 "Basketball's done a lot for me." "Basketball's done a lot for me."
1847 01:13:08,732 01:13:11,909 I told Jim Brandenburg that,and he laughed and said, I told Jim Brandenburg that,and he laughed and said,
1848 01:13:11,952 01:13:13,693 "Kenny's got that backwards". "Kenny's got that backwards".
1849 01:13:13,737 01:13:16,392 "Nobody's ever done morefor basketball than Kenny." "Nobody's ever done morefor basketball than Kenny."
1850 01:13:20,396 01:13:22,049 - I guess, from a world standpoint, - I guess, from a world standpoint,
1851 01:13:22,093 01:13:24,965 they'd probably say, "I had acalling to play basketball". they'd probably say, "I had acalling to play basketball".
1852 01:13:27,272 01:13:30,275 Since it's worked out, basketball's given me an opportunity Since it's worked out, basketball's given me an opportunity
1853 01:13:30,318 01:13:32,451 to speak to people thatprobably wouldn't have even to speak to people thatprobably wouldn't have even
1854 01:13:32,495 01:13:34,758 spoke to me if I hadn't been a good ball player. spoke to me if I hadn't been a good ball player.
1855 01:13:36,324 01:13:39,458 And the Lord uses these thingsin the lives of individuals. And the Lord uses these thingsin the lives of individuals.
1856 01:13:39,502 01:13:41,721 My case, it was sports, and the jump shot. My case, it was sports, and the jump shot.
1857 01:13:44,768 01:13:46,813 Yeah, I'm not in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, I'm not in the Hall of Fame.
1858 01:13:46,857 01:13:48,075 So far, I've never made it. So far, I've never made it.
1859 01:13:49,729 01:13:52,166 If I were to make the Hall of Fame today, If I were to make the Hall of Fame today,
1860 01:13:52,210 01:13:54,125 oh, you know, it'd be nice. oh, you know, it'd be nice.
1861 01:13:54,168 01:13:56,780 I mean, I'm a human beingjust like everybody else. I mean, I'm a human beingjust like everybody else.
1862 01:14:00,479 01:14:02,699 But I know I belong tothe greatest Hall of Fame But I know I belong tothe greatest Hall of Fame
1863 01:14:02,742 01:14:04,788 that any man or woman can ever belong to, that any man or woman can ever belong to,
1864 01:14:06,442 01:14:09,096 and when you belong to that,and you know you belong to it, and when you belong to that,and you know you belong to it,
1865 01:14:09,140 01:14:10,881 you don't worry about these Halls of Fames you don't worry about these Halls of Fames
1866 01:14:10,924 01:14:12,709 that men create down here. that men create down here.
1867 01:14:12,752 01:14:14,362 Don't mean that much to you. Don't mean that much to you.
1868 01:14:15,276 01:14:18,062 [intense booming] [intense booming]
1869 01:14:19,193 01:14:23,459 [somber instrumental music playing] [somber instrumental music playing]
1870 01:14:28,551 01:14:29,900 - [Sports Announcer] Wyoming's Kenny Sailors, - [Sports Announcer] Wyoming's Kenny Sailors,
1871 01:14:29,943 01:14:33,381 who had just turned95-years-of-age two weeks ago, who had just turned95-years-of-age two weeks ago,
1872 01:14:33,425 01:14:36,167 passed away in his sleepthis morning at 2:50 a.m. passed away in his sleepthis morning at 2:50 a.m.
1873 01:14:38,038 01:14:39,866 Here in Laramie, Wyoming. Here in Laramie, Wyoming.
1874 01:14:39,910 01:14:41,999 I'll just say this, there's no bigger fan, I'll just say this, there's no bigger fan,
1875 01:14:42,042 01:14:45,829 or a fellow that lovedCowboy and Cowgirl basketball or a fellow that lovedCowboy and Cowgirl basketball
1876 01:14:45,872 01:14:47,831 as much as Kenny Sailors. as much as Kenny Sailors.
1877 01:14:47,874 01:14:52,879 ♪ Don't you dare think ♪ Don't you dare think
1878 01:14:53,750 01:14:58,145 ♪ That I don't think about you ♪ That I don't think about you
1879 01:14:59,886 01:15:04,804 ♪ Just 'cause we can't speak ♪ Just 'cause we can't speak
1880 01:15:04,848 01:15:08,155 ♪ Doesn't mean you're not on my mind ♪ ♪ Doesn't mean you're not on my mind ♪
1881 01:15:08,199 01:15:11,681 - I remember one time we werewatchin' the NCAA Tournament, - I remember one time we werewatchin' the NCAA Tournament,
1882 01:15:11,724 01:15:15,511 and I asked Kenny about hisFinal Four, and he said, and I asked Kenny about hisFinal Four, and he said,
1883 01:15:15,554 01:15:18,905 "Well, my Final Four would be God, husband, "Well, my Final Four would be God, husband,
1884 01:15:18,949 01:15:21,821 father, and US Marine in that order". father, and US Marine in that order".
1885 01:15:21,865 01:15:23,693 I noticed that basketballwas not on the list, I noticed that basketballwas not on the list,
1886 01:15:23,736 01:15:25,085 and he said, "Yeah". and he said, "Yeah".
1887 01:15:25,129 01:15:26,434 He said, "Those are the mostimportant things to me". He said, "Those are the mostimportant things to me".
1888 01:15:26,478 01:15:27,784 "Those are my Final Four." "Those are my Final Four."
1889 01:15:27,827 01:15:32,832 ♪ I'll be watching from a distance ♪ ♪ I'll be watching from a distance ♪
1890 01:15:34,094 01:15:38,621 ♪ I'll be watching from a distance ♪ ♪ I'll be watching from a distance ♪
1891 01:15:39,839 01:15:44,191 ♪ Oh, I'll be watching from a distance ♪ ♪ Oh, I'll be watching from a distance ♪
1892 01:15:45,018 01:15:50,023 ♪ Oh ♪ Oh
1893 01:15:50,720 01:15:55,725 ♪ Oh ♪ Oh
1894 01:15:56,856 01:16:01,034 ♪ It's been a dark night ♪ It's been a dark night
1895 01:16:01,948 01:16:05,691 ♪ But it's gonna be all right ♪ But it's gonna be all right
1896 01:16:17,747 01:16:22,099 [instrumental piano music playing] [instrumental piano music playing]
1897 01:16:40,030 01:16:44,469 [somber instrumental music playing] [somber instrumental music playing]
1898 01:17:19,939 01:17:22,463 - When we think about UW athletes, - When we think about UW athletes,
1899 01:17:22,507 01:17:25,815 it's not just what they do onthe court, or on the field, it's not just what they do onthe court, or on the field,
1900 01:17:25,858 01:17:27,773 it's how they represent the university, it's how they represent the university,
1901 01:17:27,817 01:17:29,819 how they represent the state of Wyoming how they represent the state of Wyoming
1902 01:17:29,862 01:17:32,865 that gives us such pride in what they do. that gives us such pride in what they do.
1903 01:17:32,909 01:17:37,609 Today, we recognize one veryspecial athlete, Kenny Sailors. Today, we recognize one veryspecial athlete, Kenny Sailors.
1904 01:17:40,960 01:17:43,876 [crowd cheering and applauding] [crowd cheering and applauding]
1905 01:17:43,920 01:17:47,140 - Well, a statue wasunveiled of my grandfather. - Well, a statue wasunveiled of my grandfather.
1906 01:17:47,184 01:17:49,839 The first thing I thoughtwas, "That is so huge". The first thing I thoughtwas, "That is so huge".
1907 01:17:49,882 01:17:51,275 [laughing] [laughing]
1908 01:17:51,318 01:17:54,582 - It's a great replica ofhis shot in all the detail. - It's a great replica ofhis shot in all the detail.
1909 01:17:54,626 01:17:57,629 It brings him back to life just a little bit. It brings him back to life just a little bit.
1910 01:17:57,673 01:17:59,892 - Kenny Sailors, as you look at this statue, - Kenny Sailors, as you look at this statue,
1911 01:17:59,936 01:18:01,894 it's larger than life, which is appropriate, it's larger than life, which is appropriate,
1912 01:18:01,938 01:18:03,766 because he certainly was that way. because he certainly was that way.
1913 01:18:03,809 01:18:05,637 - I think of all the things we've done here, - I think of all the things we've done here,
1914 01:18:05,681 01:18:08,814 I'm most proud of this because of that man. I'm most proud of this because of that man.
1915 01:18:08,858 01:18:12,818 I don't know if you can ever tribute him enough, I don't know if you can ever tribute him enough,
1916 01:18:12,862 01:18:15,952 but this is about as good as we could do. but this is about as good as we could do.
1917 01:18:15,995 01:18:17,736 - It's almost surreal. - It's almost surreal.
1918 01:18:17,780 01:18:20,304 It makes me feel reallyproud that I'm a Sailors. It makes me feel reallyproud that I'm a Sailors.
1919 01:18:20,347 01:18:22,132 - It's appropriate we celebrate somebody - It's appropriate we celebrate somebody
1920 01:18:22,175 01:18:25,744 that has meant so much tothis state, to the game, that has meant so much tothis state, to the game,
1921 01:18:25,788 01:18:27,703 and not just when he was playing, and not just when he was playing,
1922 01:18:27,746 01:18:30,706 but he always gave back to the community. but he always gave back to the community.
1923 01:18:30,749 01:18:32,446 A great UW Cowboy. A great UW Cowboy.
1924 01:18:33,839 01:18:36,712 - I know he'd be embarrassed,and he'd be mad at us, - I know he'd be embarrassed,and he'd be mad at us,
1925 01:18:36,755 01:18:41,020 but we're very proud thatit turned out as it did. but we're very proud thatit turned out as it did.
1926 01:18:41,064 01:18:45,503 [somber instrumental music playing] [somber instrumental music playing]