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1 | 00:01:10,028 | 00:01:13,198 | It started, really, when Matt and I finished Bourne Ultimatum, | It started, really, when Matt and I finished Bourne Ultimatum, |
2 | 00:01:13,282 | 00:01:18,120 | and we sat down and said, "Well, we need to make another kick-ass thriller." | and we sat down and said, "Well, we need to make another kick-ass thriller." |
3 | 00:01:18,787 | 00:01:21,081 | "What's it gonna be about? Where are we gonna set it?" | "What's it gonna be about? Where are we gonna set it?" |
4 | 00:01:21,164 | 00:01:25,252 | It was obvious, the most dangerous place in the whole of the world, | It was obvious, the most dangerous place in the whole of the world, |
5 | 00:01:25,335 | 00:01:26,878 | at that point, was Baghdad. | at that point, was Baghdad. |
6 | 00:01:27,713 | 00:01:28,755 | It was just obvious to us. | It was just obvious to us. |
7 | 00:01:28,839 | 00:01:31,675 | Can you make a thriller in Baghdad? That's the mission. | Can you make a thriller in Baghdad? That's the mission. |
8 | 00:01:31,758 | 00:01:32,926 | And the answer is, you can. | And the answer is, you can. |
9 | 00:01:33,010 | 00:01:36,471 | If you've got a good story, and if you've got Matt Damon in it, | If you've got a good story, and if you've got Matt Damon in it, |
10 | 00:01:36,555 | 00:01:39,766 | and if he's running and jumping and kicking a lot of ass, | and if he's running and jumping and kicking a lot of ass, |
11 | 00:01:39,850 | 00:01:41,852 | then you have got a kick-ass thriller. | then you have got a kick-ass thriller. |
12 | 00:01:42,185 | 00:01:45,856 | It's a thriller, a very simple thriller | It's a thriller, a very simple thriller |
13 | 00:01:46,732 | 00:01:53,697 | with Iraq as the canvas, the backdrop, against which this thriller is told. | with Iraq as the canvas, the backdrop, against which this thriller is told. |
14 | 00:01:53,947 | 00:01:58,285 | The mandate was, first and foremost, to create a story here with viable characters, | The mandate was, first and foremost, to create a story here with viable characters, |
15 | 00:01:58,368 | 00:02:01,413 | and create a thriller | and create a thriller |
16 | 00:02:01,496 | 00:02:04,291 | that people could relate to and feel excited by, | that people could relate to and feel excited by, |
17 | 00:02:04,374 | 00:02:09,004 | and go check out and walk out saying, "Wow, there was a real movie there." | and go check out and walk out saying, "Wow, there was a real movie there." |
18 | 00:02:09,379 | 00:02:13,091 | When you're making thrillers, you're looking for extremity, really. | When you're making thrillers, you're looking for extremity, really. |
19 | 00:02:13,175 | 00:02:17,929 | Exciting places, places of danger, both moral and physical. | Exciting places, places of danger, both moral and physical. |
20 | 00:02:18,597 | 00:02:22,643 | So, when we were planning this film, that was the reason to go to Baghdad, | So, when we were planning this film, that was the reason to go to Baghdad, |
21 | 00:02:22,726 | 00:02:26,772 | because it was, at that time, one of the most dangerous places on earth. | because it was, at that time, one of the most dangerous places on earth. |
22 | 00:02:26,855 | 00:02:28,857 | It's a great place to set a thriller. | It's a great place to set a thriller. |
23 | 00:02:28,940 | 00:02:32,402 | But what you gotta do is find a story that sits in that world | But what you gotta do is find a story that sits in that world |
24 | 00:02:32,486 | 00:02:35,364 | and hooks an audience in and drives them forward. | and hooks an audience in and drives them forward. |
25 | 00:02:35,447 | 00:02:37,167 | That's what we tried to do with Green Zone. | That's what we tried to do with Green Zone. |
26 | 00:03:00,639 | 00:03:05,018 | I was in charge of one of the WMD teams in Iraq in 2003 | I was in charge of one of the WMD teams in Iraq in 2003 |
27 | 00:03:05,102 | 00:03:06,436 | that was conducting the search. | that was conducting the search. |
28 | 00:03:06,728 | 00:03:08,188 | We were a very small team | We were a very small team |
29 | 00:03:08,271 | 00:03:09,693 | and kind of in the center of a very large storm | and kind of in the center of a very large storm |
30 | 00:03:09,773 | 00:03:11,361 | that the whole world happened to have its eyes on, | that the whole world happened to have its eyes on, |
31 | 00:03:11,441 | 00:03:12,776 | it was focused on, at the time. | it was focused on, at the time. |
32 | 00:03:12,859 | 00:03:14,277 | Just a handful of guys. | Just a handful of guys. |
33 | 00:03:14,361 | 00:03:16,238 | We were thrown together at the last minute | We were thrown together at the last minute |
34 | 00:03:16,321 | 00:03:19,199 | to conduct this operation that no one had really planned for, | to conduct this operation that no one had really planned for, |
35 | 00:03:19,282 | 00:03:20,867 | trained for or forecasted. | trained for or forecasted. |
36 | 00:03:20,951 | 00:03:24,246 | And once the reality on the ground changed from what we expected it to be | And once the reality on the ground changed from what we expected it to be |
37 | 00:03:24,329 | 00:03:28,166 | to what we discovered the truth was, it became a search for the truth | to what we discovered the truth was, it became a search for the truth |
38 | 00:03:28,250 | 00:03:30,669 | rather than a search for weapons of mass destruction, | rather than a search for weapons of mass destruction, |
39 | 00:03:30,752 | 00:03:35,382 | which, it started to become more and more clear to us as the operation went on, | which, it started to become more and more clear to us as the operation went on, |
40 | 00:03:35,465 | 00:03:37,759 | it was unlikely that we were gonna find. | it was unlikely that we were gonna find. |
41 | 00:03:37,843 | 00:03:40,011 | So, for the entire team, that's what it became. | So, for the entire team, that's what it became. |
42 | 00:03:40,095 | 00:03:44,349 | And I think this film, like our experience, is about that discovery | And I think this film, like our experience, is about that discovery |
43 | 00:03:44,433 | 00:03:49,312 | and that transfer from the rote, procedural direction | and that transfer from the rote, procedural direction |
44 | 00:03:49,396 | 00:03:52,649 | that they were taking it initially, based on some assumptions, | that they were taking it initially, based on some assumptions, |
45 | 00:03:52,733 | 00:03:56,403 | into a search for the truth, and then asking those tough questions. | into a search for the truth, and then asking those tough questions. |
46 | 00:04:16,465 | 00:04:19,593 | We're playing out the scene where our team goes to look for some files | We're playing out the scene where our team goes to look for some files |
47 | 00:04:19,676 | 00:04:23,346 | that have information pertaining to weapons of mass destruction. | that have information pertaining to weapons of mass destruction. |
48 | 00:04:23,430 | 00:04:26,224 | And we're met by a group of people that are already there. | And we're met by a group of people that are already there. |
49 | 00:04:26,308 | 00:04:30,604 | This is the opening scene for Chief Miller and our WMD team. | This is the opening scene for Chief Miller and our WMD team. |
50 | 00:04:30,687 | 00:04:33,356 | They're arriving at the suspected WMD facility. | They're arriving at the suspected WMD facility. |
51 | 00:04:33,440 | 00:04:38,445 | The whole point about this film is to try and take us back to the mind-set | The whole point about this film is to try and take us back to the mind-set |
52 | 00:04:38,528 | 00:04:41,156 | that we all had on the eve of the war. | that we all had on the eve of the war. |
53 | 00:04:41,239 | 00:04:46,161 | We'd been told that Iraq was full of these terrible weapons, | We'd been told that Iraq was full of these terrible weapons, |
54 | 00:04:46,244 | 00:04:50,415 | and here we are with a team that's coming in to find them. | and here we are with a team that's coming in to find them. |
55 | 00:04:51,124 | 00:04:52,421 | In a way, you've got a group of guys | In a way, you've got a group of guys |
56 | 00:04:52,501 | 00:04:54,544 | who are sort of facing the doomsday scenario. | who are sort of facing the doomsday scenario. |
57 | 00:04:54,628 | 00:04:55,841 | They think they're gonna come in here | They think they're gonna come in here |
58 | 00:04:55,921 | 00:04:59,591 | and find the most terrible chemical and nuclear and biological weapons. | and find the most terrible chemical and nuclear and biological weapons. |
59 | 00:04:59,674 | 00:05:03,178 | When they arrive here, of course, the place is being looted. It's chaos. | When they arrive here, of course, the place is being looted. It's chaos. |
60 | 00:05:03,261 | 00:05:04,387 | They're just driving on, | They're just driving on, |
61 | 00:05:04,471 | 00:05:08,141 | because they've got to get to where they believe these weapons are. | because they've got to get to where they believe these weapons are. |
62 | 00:05:08,225 | 00:05:11,478 | Of course, the question of the film is, do they find them, | Of course, the question of the film is, do they find them, |
63 | 00:05:11,561 | 00:05:13,146 | and what happens when they get there? | and what happens when they get there? |
64 | 00:06:29,014 | 00:06:30,977 | The big thing for me in this movie was working with... | The big thing for me in this movie was working with... |
65 | 00:06:31,057 | 00:06:34,311 | We had a bunch of veterans who'd just come back from Iraq and Afghanistan. | We had a bunch of veterans who'd just come back from Iraq and Afghanistan. |
66 | 00:06:34,728 | 00:06:36,563 | And that was really who made up our cast. | And that was really who made up our cast. |
67 | 00:06:36,646 | 00:06:39,190 | Well, I think we made a commitment going in | Well, I think we made a commitment going in |
68 | 00:06:39,274 | 00:06:42,402 | that we were gonna people the film with vets, | that we were gonna people the film with vets, |
69 | 00:06:42,485 | 00:06:45,155 | people who'd been in Iraq and knew what it was about. | people who'd been in Iraq and knew what it was about. |
70 | 00:06:45,405 | 00:06:48,491 | That gives you a sort of baseline of reality. | That gives you a sort of baseline of reality. |
71 | 00:06:48,700 | 00:06:49,701 | Jerry Della Salla. | Jerry Della Salla. |
72 | 00:06:49,784 | 00:06:55,248 | I served as a military police officer at the Abu Ghraib prison, post-scandal. | I served as a military police officer at the Abu Ghraib prison, post-scandal. |
73 | 00:06:55,332 | 00:06:58,168 | I was part of a recovery mission for those scandals. | I was part of a recovery mission for those scandals. |
74 | 00:06:58,251 | 00:07:02,589 | And I served for the latter part of '04 and all of '05. | And I served for the latter part of '04 and all of '05. |
75 | 00:07:02,797 | 00:07:05,258 | Sean Huze. Originally from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. | Sean Huze. Originally from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. |
76 | 00:07:05,342 | 00:07:07,719 | I was with the United States Marine Corps, | I was with the United States Marine Corps, |
77 | 00:07:07,802 | 00:07:09,482 | 2nd Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion, | 2nd Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion, |
78 | 00:07:09,679 | 00:07:12,474 | and served in Iraq in 2003 as part of the invasion. | and served in Iraq in 2003 as part of the invasion. |
79 | 00:07:12,557 | 00:07:13,850 | Abdul Henderson. | Abdul Henderson. |
80 | 00:07:14,142 | 00:07:18,146 | Well, my job in the Marine Corps, I was an 0861, a Forward Observer. | Well, my job in the Marine Corps, I was an 0861, a Forward Observer. |
81 | 00:07:18,229 | 00:07:24,402 | I specialized in calling in artillery and close air support and naval gunfire. | I specialized in calling in artillery and close air support and naval gunfire. |
82 | 00:07:24,486 | 00:07:26,029 | My name is Brian Van Riper. | My name is Brian Van Riper. |
83 | 00:07:26,112 | 00:07:30,075 | I joined the Marine Corps the week after high school ended in 2000. | I joined the Marine Corps the week after high school ended in 2000. |
84 | 00:07:30,158 | 00:07:33,119 | I did four years and jumped around the world for... | I did four years and jumped around the world for... |
85 | 00:07:33,203 | 00:07:37,123 | I hit about 20 countries, and I was in the infantry. | I hit about 20 countries, and I was in the infantry. |
86 | 00:07:37,207 | 00:07:40,126 | I went to Iraq in the summer of '03 | I went to Iraq in the summer of '03 |
87 | 00:07:40,710 | 00:07:44,089 | and got out of the Marine Corps in May of '04. | and got out of the Marine Corps in May of '04. |
88 | 00:07:44,464 | 00:07:47,050 | Mike Dwyer from New York. I'm a Marine. | Mike Dwyer from New York. I'm a Marine. |
89 | 00:07:47,133 | 00:07:50,887 | My experiences are in Al Anbar province in Fallujah. | My experiences are in Al Anbar province in Fallujah. |
90 | 00:07:51,304 | 00:07:52,973 | I was there in '06. | I was there in '06. |
91 | 00:07:53,056 | 00:07:56,142 | My name's Nathan Lewis. I'm from Barker. | My name's Nathan Lewis. I'm from Barker. |
92 | 00:07:56,226 | 00:07:58,895 | It's a small town 30 miles east of Niagara Falls. | It's a small town 30 miles east of Niagara Falls. |
93 | 00:07:59,270 | 00:08:03,650 | I spent a considerable amount of time in Baghdad. | I spent a considerable amount of time in Baghdad. |
94 | 00:08:03,733 | 00:08:07,904 | We stayed, probably, 15 kilometers south, | We stayed, probably, 15 kilometers south, |
95 | 00:08:08,571 | 00:08:11,741 | and most of the time, we were driving to Baghdad for our missions. | and most of the time, we were driving to Baghdad for our missions. |
96 | 00:08:12,033 | 00:08:14,411 | I was the Active-Duty Army. Two and a half years. | I was the Active-Duty Army. Two and a half years. |
97 | 00:08:14,494 | 00:08:17,580 | Alex Drum, Army. I just did one tour over there. | Alex Drum, Army. I just did one tour over there. |
98 | 00:08:18,456 | 00:08:22,502 | One tour in Iraq, just north of Baghdad in the Taji area. | One tour in Iraq, just north of Baghdad in the Taji area. |
99 | 00:08:22,836 | 00:08:24,629 | Eugene Cherry, Chicago, Illinois. | Eugene Cherry, Chicago, Illinois. |
100 | 00:08:24,713 | 00:08:29,092 | I was an Army medic in 10th Mountain Division, Fort Drum, New York. | I was an Army medic in 10th Mountain Division, Fort Drum, New York. |
101 | 00:08:29,634 | 00:08:32,971 | And I was in Iraq in 2004 through 2005. | And I was in Iraq in 2004 through 2005. |
102 | 00:08:33,263 | 00:08:34,848 | My name's Edouard H.R. Gluck. | My name's Edouard H.R. Gluck. |
103 | 00:08:34,931 | 00:08:38,601 | I spent about 10 years altogether in the Army. Various units. | I spent about 10 years altogether in the Army. Various units. |
104 | 00:08:39,269 | 00:08:41,730 | Started off in Special Forces Support Battalion for a year. | Started off in Special Forces Support Battalion for a year. |
105 | 00:08:42,188 | 00:08:45,984 | Joined the line infantry in the Florida Army National Guard, 1998. | Joined the line infantry in the Florida Army National Guard, 1998. |
106 | 00:08:46,317 | 00:08:48,028 | I went to Iraq, | I went to Iraq, |
107 | 00:08:48,111 | 00:08:51,072 | and the latter part of my tour I spent with the 82nd Airborne Division, | and the latter part of my tour I spent with the 82nd Airborne Division, |
108 | 00:08:51,156 | 00:08:53,241 | Long Range Surveillance Detachment in Iraq. | Long Range Surveillance Detachment in Iraq. |
109 | 00:08:54,200 | 00:08:55,910 | Paul Michael Karsko. | Paul Michael Karsko. |
110 | 00:08:55,994 | 00:08:59,164 | I was a .50 caliber gunner on a five-ton truck. | I was a .50 caliber gunner on a five-ton truck. |
111 | 00:08:59,664 | 00:09:03,293 | 1058 Gun Truck Company. We were with the 1st Infantry Division. | 1058 Gun Truck Company. We were with the 1st Infantry Division. |
112 | 00:09:04,044 | 00:09:08,089 | Yeah, I'm a veteran. I was in for four years, '99 to '03. | Yeah, I'm a veteran. I was in for four years, '99 to '03. |
113 | 00:09:08,673 | 00:09:12,260 | And I was deployed in Iraq in '03, | And I was deployed in Iraq in '03, |
114 | 00:09:12,802 | 00:09:14,516 | and I was actually assigned on one of the MET Teams | and I was actually assigned on one of the MET Teams |
115 | 00:09:14,596 | 00:09:17,348 | that the movie's about. I was on MET Team Bravo. | that the movie's about. I was on MET Team Bravo. |
116 | 00:09:17,432 | 00:09:20,393 | Adam Charles Wendling. I'm from Iowa. | Adam Charles Wendling. I'm from Iowa. |
117 | 00:09:20,810 | 00:09:25,065 | I was there from March of 2006 to July of 2007. | I was there from March of 2006 to July of 2007. |
118 | 00:09:25,148 | 00:09:26,816 | I'm a sniper team leader. | I'm a sniper team leader. |
119 | 00:09:26,941 | 00:09:28,610 | My name is Nicoye Banks. | My name is Nicoye Banks. |
120 | 00:09:28,693 | 00:09:29,903 | I am the actor. | I am the actor. |
121 | 00:09:29,986 | 00:09:33,031 | It's a Whole new movie if y'all mess with me, I'm telling you. | It's a Whole new movie if y'all mess with me, I'm telling you. |
122 | 00:09:33,114 | 00:09:34,074 | Cut! | Cut! |
123 | 00:09:34,157 | 00:09:36,826 | Get that on film, baby. That's the highlight. | Get that on film, baby. That's the highlight. |
124 | 00:09:36,910 | 00:09:38,995 | See, I like the way y'all do business around here. | See, I like the way y'all do business around here. |
125 | 00:09:40,830 | 00:09:45,001 | There are a couple of guys here that have just a tremendous amount of experience. | There are a couple of guys here that have just a tremendous amount of experience. |
126 | 00:09:45,085 | 00:09:51,883 | And so, when asked to tackle an adversary and take them to the ground | And so, when asked to tackle an adversary and take them to the ground |
127 | 00:09:51,966 | 00:09:56,471 | and search them and flex-cuff them and do whatever you do with a prisoner, | and search them and flex-cuff them and do whatever you do with a prisoner, |
128 | 00:09:56,846 | 00:09:58,306 | there's no rehearsal needed. | there's no rehearsal needed. |
129 | 00:09:58,389 | 00:10:01,226 | These guys have done that 100 times. They just do it. | These guys have done that 100 times. They just do it. |
130 | 00:10:01,309 | 00:10:03,728 | When you've trained for years to do this stuff, | When you've trained for years to do this stuff, |
131 | 00:10:03,812 | 00:10:05,188 | they term it "muscle memory," | they term it "muscle memory," |
132 | 00:10:05,396 | 00:10:08,358 | and you just go with the flow, you should know how to react, | and you just go with the flow, you should know how to react, |
133 | 00:10:08,441 | 00:10:10,485 | and that's what we were trying to do. | and that's what we were trying to do. |
134 | 00:10:11,528 | 00:10:16,074 | I'm not much of an actor, so I just kind of go with the flow. | I'm not much of an actor, so I just kind of go with the flow. |
135 | 00:10:16,157 | 00:10:17,283 | It's pretty scary. | It's pretty scary. |
136 | 00:10:17,367 | 00:10:21,412 | I haven't touched a rifle in four years, since I came back from Iraq. | I haven't touched a rifle in four years, since I came back from Iraq. |
137 | 00:10:21,830 | 00:10:24,457 | To pick up a weapon and throw on a flak jacket | To pick up a weapon and throw on a flak jacket |
138 | 00:10:24,541 | 00:10:28,211 | and the uniform and the boots, it just feels all too natural. | and the uniform and the boots, it just feels all too natural. |
139 | 00:10:30,213 | 00:10:33,049 | Even climbing in and out of the Humvees as we're doing the scenes, | Even climbing in and out of the Humvees as we're doing the scenes, |
140 | 00:10:33,133 | 00:10:37,554 | hopping out of the Humvees simulating an engagement scene, | hopping out of the Humvees simulating an engagement scene, |
141 | 00:10:38,388 | 00:10:41,015 | it all feels natural. | it all feels natural. |
142 | 00:10:42,433 | 00:10:45,979 | When they say "muscle memory," it's like the memory is definitely still there, | When they say "muscle memory," it's like the memory is definitely still there, |
143 | 00:10:46,062 | 00:10:48,773 | because I don't feel uncomfortable. | because I don't feel uncomfortable. |
144 | 00:10:48,857 | 00:10:52,318 | It just feels that, "Okay, this is how it's supposed to go." | It just feels that, "Okay, this is how it's supposed to go." |
145 | 00:10:52,735 | 00:10:53,736 | It's pretty interesting, | It's pretty interesting, |
146 | 00:10:53,820 | 00:10:56,990 | but I guess when you sleep with a rifle for six months | but I guess when you sleep with a rifle for six months |
147 | 00:10:57,073 | 00:10:59,993 | and you live in and out of a Humvee for six months, | and you live in and out of a Humvee for six months, |
148 | 00:11:00,076 | 00:11:03,079 | it kind of becomes a second home, in a sense. | it kind of becomes a second home, in a sense. |
149 | 00:11:03,413 | 00:11:07,834 | Paul kind of unexpectedly has them fire off a couple rounds. | Paul kind of unexpectedly has them fire off a couple rounds. |
150 | 00:11:07,917 | 00:11:10,086 | You know, everything changes. Their whole demeanor. | You know, everything changes. Their whole demeanor. |
151 | 00:11:10,170 | 00:11:12,672 | You can't fake that adrenaline and that heightened awareness | You can't fake that adrenaline and that heightened awareness |
152 | 00:11:12,755 | 00:11:14,966 | when these guys have been shot at a number of times, | when these guys have been shot at a number of times, |
153 | 00:11:15,049 | 00:11:19,304 | and they start hearing small arms, they just... A different thing happens. | and they start hearing small arms, they just... A different thing happens. |
154 | 00:11:19,387 | 00:11:21,307 | It's just not something that's Hollywood, at all. | It's just not something that's Hollywood, at all. |
155 | 00:11:21,431 | 00:11:24,184 | That was good, man. That was a rush. | That was good, man. That was a rush. |
156 | 00:11:24,267 | 00:11:25,647 | That was the ultimate rush, right there. | That was the ultimate rush, right there. |
157 | 00:11:25,727 | 00:11:28,313 | All I had to hear was the... | All I had to hear was the... |
158 | 00:11:28,396 | 00:11:30,690 | - Like real rounds. - Yeah, a whizz and a crack. | - Like real rounds. - Yeah, a whizz and a crack. |
159 | 00:11:30,773 | 00:11:33,067 | It was just like, "Who's firing at us?" | It was just like, "Who's firing at us?" |
160 | 00:11:33,151 | 00:11:34,819 | "Who's shooting at us again?" | "Who's shooting at us again?" |
161 | 00:11:34,903 | 00:11:37,447 | Instinct comes in, and training then kicks in, | Instinct comes in, and training then kicks in, |
162 | 00:11:38,489 | 00:11:40,992 | and everything just meshes together as it should. | and everything just meshes together as it should. |
163 | 00:11:41,075 | 00:11:44,537 | It's kind of weird how it all works together, really. | It's kind of weird how it all works together, really. |
164 | 00:11:45,079 | 00:11:47,665 | It just does. It just happens. | It just does. It just happens. |
165 | 00:11:47,749 | 00:11:52,837 | A lot of communication and a lot of trust, a lot of confusion, chaos, | A lot of communication and a lot of trust, a lot of confusion, chaos, |
166 | 00:11:53,087 | 00:11:57,091 | not understanding why we're doing what we're doing, but we're doing it. | not understanding why we're doing what we're doing, but we're doing it. |
167 | 00:11:57,175 | 00:12:00,094 | A lot of them are triggered by the vehicle skidding to a stop, | A lot of them are triggered by the vehicle skidding to a stop, |
168 | 00:12:00,178 | 00:12:01,349 | by gunfire, by something going on, | by gunfire, by something going on, |
169 | 00:12:01,429 | 00:12:05,975 | and usually that already kind of triggers that side of you. | and usually that already kind of triggers that side of you. |
170 | 00:12:06,517 | 00:12:09,729 | Kind of gets you back into work mode. And I think it definitely comes out here. | Kind of gets you back into work mode. And I think it definitely comes out here. |
171 | 00:12:09,812 | 00:12:11,689 | It's pretty easy to fall right back into that, | It's pretty easy to fall right back into that, |
172 | 00:12:11,773 | 00:12:14,573 | especially if there's a lot of people around you reacting the same way. | especially if there's a lot of people around you reacting the same way. |
173 | 00:12:14,776 | 00:12:15,947 | It just brings that instinct out. | It just brings that instinct out. |
174 | 00:12:16,027 | 00:12:21,491 | A lot of us have been in the military for four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 years. | A lot of us have been in the military for four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 years. |
175 | 00:12:21,574 | 00:12:23,580 | So, after a while, training, all that gets ingrained, | So, after a while, training, all that gets ingrained, |
176 | 00:12:23,660 | 00:12:27,956 | and I think it's all coming out now, in this. It's interesting to see it all come together. | and I think it's all coming out now, in this. It's interesting to see it all come together. |
177 | 00:12:28,039 | 00:12:30,917 | It's scary-real, sometimes, the way it feels | It's scary-real, sometimes, the way it feels |
178 | 00:12:31,000 | 00:12:33,336 | when you're actually running through the motions. | when you're actually running through the motions. |
179 | 00:12:33,419 | 00:12:37,423 | Really feels like it's kind of happening. It's a little weird sometimes. | Really feels like it's kind of happening. It's a little weird sometimes. |
180 | 00:12:37,507 | 00:12:40,551 | But, yeah, I wouldn't call it acting, by any means. | But, yeah, I wouldn't call it acting, by any means. |
181 | 00:12:40,635 | 00:12:43,513 | With the equipment and putting everything on, | With the equipment and putting everything on, |
182 | 00:12:44,597 | 00:12:47,267 | you start thinking in terms of security, | you start thinking in terms of security, |
183 | 00:12:47,350 | 00:12:51,312 | and you walk around, you look at rooftops and windows and doors. | and you walk around, you look at rooftops and windows and doors. |
184 | 00:12:51,396 | 00:12:53,940 | You just kind of treat this weapon like it's real. | You just kind of treat this weapon like it's real. |
185 | 00:12:54,023 | 00:12:56,651 | It's like riding a bike. You don't forget it. | It's like riding a bike. You don't forget it. |
186 | 00:12:56,734 | 00:12:59,734 | One of the things we talked about, as a team, is the guys that are veterans, | One of the things we talked about, as a team, is the guys that are veterans, |
187 | 00:13:00,363 | 00:13:02,532 | you're asked to go down that road again, | you're asked to go down that road again, |
188 | 00:13:03,116 | 00:13:04,996 | maybe only in a little bit more of a dramatic sense, | maybe only in a little bit more of a dramatic sense, |
189 | 00:13:05,076 | 00:13:09,706 | but it is, nonetheless, refreshing and helpful | but it is, nonetheless, refreshing and helpful |
190 | 00:13:09,789 | 00:13:13,793 | because maybe some things that you had issues with | because maybe some things that you had issues with |
191 | 00:13:13,876 | 00:13:17,171 | when you got home, you're able to play out here. | when you got home, you're able to play out here. |
192 | 00:13:17,255 | 00:13:21,426 | And it's a good environment to do that. It's a safe environment. | And it's a good environment to do that. It's a safe environment. |
193 | 00:13:21,509 | 00:13:24,804 | And I think in many ways, | And I think in many ways, |
194 | 00:13:24,887 | 00:13:29,934 | as a veteran, I've been able to kind of expose myself to things | as a veteran, I've been able to kind of expose myself to things |
195 | 00:13:31,060 | 00:13:33,896 | that maybe I needed to come to grips with. | that maybe I needed to come to grips with. |
196 | 00:13:34,564 | 00:13:37,233 | I get the feeling that most of these guys | I get the feeling that most of these guys |
197 | 00:13:37,317 | 00:13:40,528 | have been propelled forward in life because of their experiences, | have been propelled forward in life because of their experiences, |
198 | 00:13:40,611 | 00:13:42,322 | rather than being held back | rather than being held back |
199 | 00:13:42,405 | 00:13:46,743 | or suffered some sort of traumatic emotional experience because of it. | or suffered some sort of traumatic emotional experience because of it. |
200 | 00:13:47,702 | 00:13:51,039 | That said, there have definitely been scenes | That said, there have definitely been scenes |
201 | 00:13:51,122 | 00:13:55,418 | where you can visibly see these guys acting out scenes | where you can visibly see these guys acting out scenes |
202 | 00:13:58,880 | 00:14:01,135 | and getting that look, and that feel, and that sensation that, | and getting that look, and that feel, and that sensation that, |
203 | 00:14:01,215 | 00:14:04,344 | "Hey, I've been here before. This is very real." | "Hey, I've been here before. This is very real." |
204 | 00:14:04,427 | 00:14:06,429 | There's a very real feeling to it. | There's a very real feeling to it. |
205 | 00:14:06,512 | 00:14:09,015 | I know that's exactly what Paul's trying to create. | I know that's exactly what Paul's trying to create. |
206 | 00:14:09,098 | 00:14:10,767 | So, it's really good. | So, it's really good. |
207 | 00:14:11,684 | 00:14:14,479 | - Cut! Good. - Cut that. | - Cut! Good. - Cut that. |
208 | 00:14:14,562 | 00:14:16,022 | It's pretty intense, very real. | It's pretty intense, very real. |
209 | 00:14:16,105 | 00:14:18,691 | You wouldn't expect anything less from Paul, though. | You wouldn't expect anything less from Paul, though. |
210 | 00:14:18,775 | 00:14:19,901 | So, it's good to go. | So, it's good to go. |
211 | 00:14:19,984 | 00:14:21,736 | It feels really real, actually. | It feels really real, actually. |
212 | 00:14:21,819 | 00:14:25,323 | I feel like I'm charging through somewhere and possibly might get shot, | I feel like I'm charging through somewhere and possibly might get shot, |
213 | 00:14:25,406 | 00:14:27,950 | or I don't know what's coming next, and everything else. | or I don't know what's coming next, and everything else. |
214 | 00:14:28,034 | 00:14:29,035 | I'm pretty amped up. | I'm pretty amped up. |
215 | 00:14:29,118 | 00:14:31,287 | I'm still amped up, right now, from the last scene. | I'm still amped up, right now, from the last scene. |
216 | 00:14:31,496 | 00:14:35,249 | I spent as much time as possible hanging out with soldiers | I spent as much time as possible hanging out with soldiers |
217 | 00:14:35,333 | 00:14:36,709 | and behaving like a parasite. | and behaving like a parasite. |
218 | 00:14:36,793 | 00:14:40,033 | Listening to how they talk to each other and asking as many questions as possible. | Listening to how they talk to each other and asking as many questions as possible. |
219 | 00:14:40,254 | 00:14:42,882 | This is better than any acting class I could've taken. | This is better than any acting class I could've taken. |
220 | 00:14:42,965 | 00:14:44,384 | This isn't a book. | This isn't a book. |
221 | 00:14:44,467 | 00:14:47,512 | I mean, I did my research prior to as much as I could, | I mean, I did my research prior to as much as I could, |
222 | 00:14:47,595 | 00:14:48,638 | based on what I knew, | based on what I knew, |
223 | 00:14:48,888 | 00:14:51,891 | but there's a big difference between learning what a soldier does | but there's a big difference between learning what a soldier does |
224 | 00:14:51,974 | 00:14:54,185 | and how they do what they do | and how they do what they do |
225 | 00:14:55,019 | 00:14:58,773 | versus being one, and being in a situation like Iraq. | versus being one, and being in a situation like Iraq. |
226 | 00:14:59,690 | 00:15:01,401 | These men were in Iraq. | These men were in Iraq. |
227 | 00:15:01,484 | 00:15:03,736 | They were in the heart of it. | They were in the heart of it. |
228 | 00:15:03,820 | 00:15:07,365 | Different jobs, | Different jobs, |
229 | 00:15:08,366 | 00:15:10,827 | but the same, they have one common denominator. | but the same, they have one common denominator. |
230 | 00:15:13,830 | 00:15:16,040 | And it's amazing. It really is. | And it's amazing. It really is. |
231 | 00:15:16,124 | 00:15:18,334 | It's overwhelming, to be honest with you. | It's overwhelming, to be honest with you. |
232 | 00:15:18,751 | 00:15:21,003 | Well, in the end, there's only so far you can get | Well, in the end, there's only so far you can get |
233 | 00:15:21,087 | 00:15:22,713 | by getting actors to play soldiers. | by getting actors to play soldiers. |
234 | 00:15:23,005 | 00:15:25,383 | You're better off, in my view, | You're better off, in my view, |
235 | 00:15:26,676 | 00:15:28,845 | I say that, having done it over a number of films, | I say that, having done it over a number of films, |
236 | 00:15:28,928 | 00:15:33,057 | you're better off getting soldiers to act than you are getting actors to be soldiers. | you're better off getting soldiers to act than you are getting actors to be soldiers. |
237 | 00:15:33,141 | 00:15:36,102 | They started to trust the process. | They started to trust the process. |
238 | 00:15:36,185 | 00:15:40,231 | I think what they wondered is, "Is there a political agenda here?" | I think what they wondered is, "Is there a political agenda here?" |
239 | 00:15:40,690 | 00:15:44,235 | Because the guys were from all across the political spectrum, | Because the guys were from all across the political spectrum, |
240 | 00:15:44,318 | 00:15:48,114 | and they were kind of trying to figure out what exactly was going on, | and they were kind of trying to figure out what exactly was going on, |
241 | 00:15:48,197 | 00:15:50,032 | what was expected of them. | what was expected of them. |
242 | 00:15:50,366 | 00:15:55,538 | And so I think some of them came very wary of the film, | And so I think some of them came very wary of the film, |
243 | 00:15:57,457 | 00:16:00,460 | and wanted to make sure that it wasn't going to do anything | and wanted to make sure that it wasn't going to do anything |
244 | 00:16:00,543 | 00:16:03,421 | to dishonor their service in any way. | to dishonor their service in any way. |
245 | 00:16:03,504 | 00:16:05,006 | And I think, in short order, | And I think, in short order, |
246 | 00:16:05,089 | 00:16:09,677 | they realized what kind of person Paul was and what kind of movie this was gonna be, | they realized what kind of person Paul was and what kind of movie this was gonna be, |
247 | 00:16:09,760 | 00:16:12,972 | and so they really got into it, and they were terrific. | and so they really got into it, and they were terrific. |
248 | 00:16:13,055 | 00:16:15,349 | You feel the weight and the significance | You feel the weight and the significance |
249 | 00:16:15,433 | 00:16:18,686 | of having these guys around | of having these guys around |
250 | 00:16:18,769 | 00:16:21,731 | who have lived this experience, who know about it. | who have lived this experience, who know about it. |
251 | 00:16:21,814 | 00:16:24,859 | There's an air of credibility to the story | There's an air of credibility to the story |
252 | 00:16:24,942 | 00:16:28,488 | when Matt's able to bounce ideas off these guys, | when Matt's able to bounce ideas off these guys, |
253 | 00:16:28,571 | 00:16:30,698 | when these guys are there. | when these guys are there. |
254 | 00:16:30,781 | 00:16:31,828 | They know what they're doing. | They know what they're doing. |
255 | 00:16:31,908 | 00:16:33,828 | I think they started to really enjoy the process. | I think they started to really enjoy the process. |
256 | 00:16:33,910 | 00:16:35,995 | They started to enjoy each other, too. | They started to enjoy each other, too. |
257 | 00:16:36,078 | 00:16:37,291 | They all didn't know each other, | They all didn't know each other, |
258 | 00:16:37,371 | 00:16:40,458 | and then, suddenly, they were on a movie set in Spain, in Morocco, | and then, suddenly, they were on a movie set in Spain, in Morocco, |
259 | 00:16:40,541 | 00:16:43,544 | and they're going out having a couple of beers together. | and they're going out having a couple of beers together. |
260 | 00:16:43,628 | 00:16:46,756 | By the end, there was a real sense of camaraderie among the guys. | By the end, there was a real sense of camaraderie among the guys. |
261 | 00:23:30,826 | 00:23:33,787 | It was an everyday occurrence, I think, for these units | It was an everyday occurrence, I think, for these units |
262 | 00:23:33,871 | 00:23:36,790 | that were fanning out across Iraq looking for WMD. | that were fanning out across Iraq looking for WMD. |
263 | 00:23:36,874 | 00:23:39,835 | They would pitch into places, | They would pitch into places, |
264 | 00:23:39,919 | 00:23:45,299 | in this case, it's a suburb of Baghdad, but it was happening all across Iraq, | in this case, it's a suburb of Baghdad, but it was happening all across Iraq, |
265 | 00:23:45,382 | 00:23:47,509 | and they'd basically start to dig. | and they'd basically start to dig. |
266 | 00:23:48,260 | 00:23:53,682 | And, very often, people would come up and try and give them information. | And, very often, people would come up and try and give them information. |
267 | 00:23:54,433 | 00:23:57,603 | They knew where stuff was buried, they knew where a meeting was going on, | They knew where stuff was buried, they knew where a meeting was going on, |
268 | 00:23:57,686 | 00:23:59,772 | all those kinds of things. | all those kinds of things. |
269 | 00:23:59,855 | 00:24:03,067 | And Freddy comes up and tells them that there's a meeting nearby | And Freddy comes up and tells them that there's a meeting nearby |
270 | 00:24:03,150 | 00:24:07,071 | of high-value targets, big regime figures. | of high-value targets, big regime figures. |
271 | 00:24:08,030 | 00:24:11,700 | And that's really what sets Miller off | And that's really what sets Miller off |
272 | 00:24:11,784 | 00:24:14,036 | and causes Miller to come face to face with Al Rawi, | and causes Miller to come face to face with Al Rawi, |
273 | 00:24:14,578 | 00:24:18,624 | and it also is the catalyst for the relationship | and it also is the catalyst for the relationship |
274 | 00:24:18,707 | 00:24:19,875 | between Miller and Freddy, | between Miller and Freddy, |
275 | 00:24:19,959 | 00:24:21,797 | and that's a very, very important relationship, | and that's a very, very important relationship, |
276 | 00:24:21,877 | 00:24:24,964 | because Freddy, ultimately, as the story unfolds, | because Freddy, ultimately, as the story unfolds, |
277 | 00:24:25,047 | 00:24:28,842 | starts to awaken Miller | starts to awaken Miller |
278 | 00:24:29,343 | 00:24:32,262 | to the larger context of What's going on here. | to the larger context of What's going on here. |
279 | 00:24:32,471 | 00:24:36,892 | I read the part of Freddy and thought he was a beautiful character | I read the part of Freddy and thought he was a beautiful character |
280 | 00:24:36,976 | 00:24:39,645 | who I wanted to sink my teeth into. | who I wanted to sink my teeth into. |
281 | 00:24:39,728 | 00:24:43,440 | I loved working with Khalid. I mean, he's just fantastic. | I loved working with Khalid. I mean, he's just fantastic. |
282 | 00:24:44,525 | 00:24:48,737 | He plays Freddy, a guy who comes up to Miller | He plays Freddy, a guy who comes up to Miller |
283 | 00:24:49,822 | 00:24:54,284 | while Miller's excavating some site that obviously doesn't have any WMD, | while Miller's excavating some site that obviously doesn't have any WMD, |
284 | 00:24:54,743 | 00:24:58,706 | and he just really gets to the Miller character. He gets through to him. | and he just really gets to the Miller character. He gets through to him. |
285 | 00:24:58,872 | 00:25:02,084 | Freddy is a slightly larger-than-life character. | Freddy is a slightly larger-than-life character. |
286 | 00:25:02,167 | 00:25:06,005 | He can be funny, he's passionate, and I think a good guy. | He can be funny, he's passionate, and I think a good guy. |
287 | 00:25:06,088 | 00:25:07,172 | He's a good person. | He's a good person. |
288 | 00:25:07,256 | 00:25:11,969 | He's someone whose moral world you tend to trust. | He's someone whose moral world you tend to trust. |
289 | 00:26:16,658 | 00:26:19,456 | I had a big breakthrough on the day that we were shooting the soccer field, | I had a big breakthrough on the day that we were shooting the soccer field, |
290 | 00:26:19,536 | 00:26:23,248 | because when I go back to my men to tell them, | because when I go back to my men to tell them, |
291 | 00:26:23,332 | 00:26:24,461 | "Look, this guy just came up," | "Look, this guy just came up," |
292 | 00:26:24,541 | 00:26:27,961 | "and he gave us this information, and I wanna act on it," | "and he gave us this information, and I wanna act on it," |
293 | 00:26:28,045 | 00:26:32,257 | Paul told one of them, Adam, who is a sniper in the National Guard in real life, | Paul told one of them, Adam, who is a sniper in the National Guard in real life, |
294 | 00:26:32,341 | 00:26:35,385 | "he said, " Adam, when he says this, | "he said, " Adam, when he says this, |
295 | 00:26:35,469 | 00:26:38,430 | "when he suggests that you guys go over and hit this house," | "when he suggests that you guys go over and hit this house," |
296 | 00:26:38,514 | 00:26:41,809 | "which is not your mission," | "which is not your mission," |
297 | 00:26:41,892 | 00:26:45,562 | "your mission is to stay here and dig in the soccer field," | "your mission is to stay here and dig in the soccer field," |
298 | 00:26:46,855 | 00:26:49,775 | "ask him, 'How can we trust this guy?" | "ask him, 'How can we trust this guy?" |
299 | 00:26:49,858 | 00:26:52,361 | "'I mean, what if he's leading us into an ambush?" | "'I mean, what if he's leading us into an ambush?" |
300 | 00:26:52,444 | 00:26:54,571 | Which is a very valid point. | Which is a very valid point. |
301 | 00:26:54,822 | 00:26:57,658 | And we rehearsed it once, | And we rehearsed it once, |
302 | 00:26:57,991 | 00:27:01,411 | just to kind of give everybody a sense of what might happen, | just to kind of give everybody a sense of what might happen, |
303 | 00:27:01,495 | 00:27:04,414 | give the cameramen a sense of what might happen. | give the cameramen a sense of what might happen. |
304 | 00:27:04,748 | 00:27:09,837 | Mike Dwyer just had a visceral... Had to turn away when Adam said that. | Mike Dwyer just had a visceral... Had to turn away when Adam said that. |
305 | 00:27:10,754 | 00:27:12,381 | He literally just... | He literally just... |
306 | 00:27:12,464 | 00:27:18,387 | It made him so angry that he was questioning my authority. | It made him so angry that he was questioning my authority. |
307 | 00:27:18,762 | 00:27:20,222 | So, I walked over to Mike. | So, I walked over to Mike. |
308 | 00:27:20,305 | 00:27:22,975 | No one had really seen it, I saw it out of the corner of my eye. | No one had really seen it, I saw it out of the corner of my eye. |
309 | 00:27:23,058 | 00:27:25,853 | So, I went over to Mike and I said, "What's the deal?" | So, I went over to Mike and I said, "What's the deal?" |
310 | 00:27:25,936 | 00:27:28,647 | And he said, "Are you... kidding me?" | And he said, "Are you... kidding me?" |
311 | 00:27:29,189 | 00:27:32,568 | He goes, "That... insubordination? Now?" | He goes, "That... insubordination? Now?" |
312 | 00:27:33,277 | 00:27:36,196 | He said, "Listen, if I had a problem with your leadership", | He said, "Listen, if I had a problem with your leadership", |
313 | 00:27:36,280 | 00:27:40,659 | "you'll hear it back at the FOB. Not now. Now, we're working." | "you'll hear it back at the FOB. Not now. Now, we're working." |
314 | 00:27:40,742 | 00:27:46,039 | "Now, this is the time when you don't tolerate that kind of insubordination." | "Now, this is the time when you don't tolerate that kind of insubordination." |
315 | 00:27:46,123 | 00:27:48,250 | “Get your.. game face on.“ | “Get your.. game face on.“ |
316 | 00:27:48,584 | 00:27:52,004 | And I said, "Really?" And he said, "Get your... game face on." | And I said, "Really?" And he said, "Get your... game face on." |
317 | 00:27:52,087 | 00:27:53,630 | | said, "Okay." | | said, "Okay." |
318 | 00:27:54,339 | 00:27:55,632 | So, we did the scene, | So, we did the scene, |
319 | 00:27:55,716 | 00:27:59,386 | and he said, "How do we know he's not leading us into an ambush?" | and he said, "How do we know he's not leading us into an ambush?" |
320 | 00:27:59,469 | 00:28:00,929 | And I said, "We don't." | And I said, "We don't." |
321 | 00:28:01,346 | 00:28:05,517 | And I summoned up all my inner courage, 'cause I'm looking at a real sniper, | And I summoned up all my inner courage, 'cause I'm looking at a real sniper, |
322 | 00:28:05,601 | 00:28:07,978 | and I said, "Get your... game face on." | and I said, "Get your... game face on." |
323 | 00:35:05,770 | 00:35:07,567 | I got a phone call from Paul in the middle of the night | I got a phone call from Paul in the middle of the night |
324 | 00:35:07,647 | 00:35:09,567 | and he said, "Are you working?" And I said, "No." | and he said, "Are you working?" And I said, "No." |
325 | 00:35:09,649 | 00:35:13,361 | And he said, "Do you wanna come and do a bit in my film?" | And he said, "Do you wanna come and do a bit in my film?" |
326 | 00:35:13,445 | 00:35:15,280 | I said, "What is it?" | I said, "What is it?" |
327 | 00:35:15,363 | 00:35:19,451 | He said, "Well, it starts in the morning. It's one of my films", | He said, "Well, it starts in the morning. It's one of my films", |
328 | 00:35:19,534 | 00:35:22,078 | "so I don't really know quite what the character's gonna be" | "so I don't really know quite what the character's gonna be" |
329 | 00:35:22,162 | 00:35:23,496 | "and what he's gonna do." | "and what he's gonna do." |
330 | 00:35:23,580 | 00:35:26,750 | "I don't think we're gonna pay you very well, and you have to pack." | "I don't think we're gonna pay you very well, and you have to pack." |
331 | 00:35:26,833 | 00:35:28,084 | And I said, "Sounds great," | And I said, "Sounds great," |
332 | 00:35:28,168 | 00:35:30,799 | and the next day I was here in Morocco jumping out of a helicopter. | and the next day I was here in Morocco jumping out of a helicopter. |
333 | 00:35:30,879 | 00:35:35,592 | One of the great gifts of being surrounded by real Special Forces soldiers | One of the great gifts of being surrounded by real Special Forces soldiers |
334 | 00:35:35,675 | 00:35:38,136 | and real ex-Marines and Rangers | and real ex-Marines and Rangers |
335 | 00:35:39,429 | 00:35:42,265 | is that they will help me to do what Paul wants in his films, | is that they will help me to do what Paul wants in his films, |
336 | 00:35:42,349 | 00:35:44,976 | which is to make everything look and sound absolutely real, | which is to make everything look and sound absolutely real, |
337 | 00:35:45,060 | 00:35:46,690 | because then the drama can come to the front. | because then the drama can come to the front. |
338 | 00:35:46,770 | 00:35:51,816 | And Special Forces soldiers are the elite. They operate in the top tier of the Army, | And Special Forces soldiers are the elite. They operate in the top tier of the Army, |
339 | 00:35:51,900 | 00:35:57,739 | and they are meant to be the Olympic athletes of the Armed Forces. | and they are meant to be the Olympic athletes of the Armed Forces. |
340 | 00:35:58,281 | 00:36:02,827 | And so what I have to do is listen and soak it up from them. | And so what I have to do is listen and soak it up from them. |
341 | 00:36:02,911 | 00:36:04,829 | And one of the things that I hear | And one of the things that I hear |
342 | 00:36:04,913 | 00:36:08,875 | is that there's a confidence and an arrogance | is that there's a confidence and an arrogance |
343 | 00:36:08,958 | 00:36:11,920 | that the Special Forces have. They really take orders from nobody. | that the Special Forces have. They really take orders from nobody. |
344 | 00:36:12,462 | 00:36:15,423 | And they feel, and maybe they are... | And they feel, and maybe they are... |
345 | 00:36:15,507 | 00:36:18,147 | They feel like they are the very best in the world at what they do. | They feel like they are the very best in the world at what they do. |
346 | 00:36:18,843 | 00:36:22,722 | We're about to all get our asses kicked by the Special Forces guys. | We're about to all get our asses kicked by the Special Forces guys. |
347 | 00:36:22,806 | 00:36:25,642 | These guys all jump off their fancy helicopters. | These guys all jump off their fancy helicopters. |
348 | 00:36:25,725 | 00:36:28,978 | I've got a book that Jason Isaacs, | I've got a book that Jason Isaacs, |
349 | 00:36:29,062 | 00:36:35,777 | who plays the Task Force 221 Special Forces guy | who plays the Task Force 221 Special Forces guy |
350 | 00:36:35,860 | 00:36:36,903 | wants to get from me. | wants to get from me. |
351 | 00:36:36,986 | 00:36:42,409 | So, when I don't give it to him willingly, he takes matters into his own hands. | So, when I don't give it to him willingly, he takes matters into his own hands. |
352 | 00:36:42,659 | 00:36:44,202 | Basically kicks the shit out of me. | Basically kicks the shit out of me. |
353 | 00:36:45,370 | 00:36:47,288 | All these guys are saying what they would do | All these guys are saying what they would do |
354 | 00:36:47,372 | 00:36:49,666 | if this really were happening. | if this really were happening. |
355 | 00:36:49,749 | 00:36:52,544 | And so adjustments have been made to the little fight sequence | And so adjustments have been made to the little fight sequence |
356 | 00:36:52,627 | 00:36:55,296 | to kind of allow for the reality of it. | to kind of allow for the reality of it. |
357 | 00:36:55,380 | 00:36:57,340 | But basically, what needs to happen, story-wise, | But basically, what needs to happen, story-wise, |
358 | 00:36:57,424 | 00:37:01,428 | is I need to be dominated, manhandled, | is I need to be dominated, manhandled, |
359 | 00:37:04,472 | 00:37:07,392 | pretty expertly by the Special Forces guy. | pretty expertly by the Special Forces guy. |
360 | 00:37:07,767 | 00:37:11,229 | I could bloody you, and you could come at me, | I could bloody you, and you could come at me, |
361 | 00:37:11,312 | 00:37:15,191 | and that... I could throw you off there and go for the book. | and that... I could throw you off there and go for the book. |
362 | 00:37:15,275 | 00:37:16,488 | So, at least I throw you in the crowd. | So, at least I throw you in the crowd. |
363 | 00:37:16,568 | 00:37:22,282 | - So, it's not... You don't... - I wonder if it's, "Get... off me." | - So, it's not... You don't... - I wonder if it's, "Get... off me." |
364 | 00:37:22,365 | 00:37:25,577 | And he goes, "Hey," bang! And just hits me right in the... | And he goes, "Hey," bang! And just hits me right in the... |
365 | 00:37:25,660 | 00:37:29,122 | And blood's coming out of my nose, he's like, "Give me the... book." | And blood's coming out of my nose, he's like, "Give me the... book." |
366 | 00:44:17,572 | 00:44:21,826 | What was interesting about Green Zone was to create the character of Brown | What was interesting about Green Zone was to create the character of Brown |
367 | 00:44:21,909 | 00:44:23,494 | that Brendan Gleeson plays, | that Brendan Gleeson plays, |
368 | 00:44:24,245 | 00:44:25,955 | who's a kind of... | who's a kind of... |
369 | 00:44:26,873 | 00:44:31,419 | He's a Middle East veteran. He's been there a long time. | He's a Middle East veteran. He's been there a long time. |
370 | 00:44:31,502 | 00:44:33,754 | He knows what goes down in that part of the world. | He knows what goes down in that part of the world. |
371 | 00:44:33,963 | 00:44:38,384 | He's a guy who's been around in the region. He's in intelligence, | He's a guy who's been around in the region. He's in intelligence, |
372 | 00:44:38,467 | 00:44:41,596 | and he's been there for 25 years in the region. | and he's been there for 25 years in the region. |
373 | 00:44:42,555 | 00:44:46,434 | He knows the mind-set of the people. | He knows the mind-set of the people. |
374 | 00:44:47,018 | 00:44:49,812 | He understands the culture and the rest of it. | He understands the culture and the rest of it. |
375 | 00:44:49,896 | 00:44:54,192 | He's somebody who knows a little bit more than the people coming in, | He's somebody who knows a little bit more than the people coming in, |
376 | 00:44:54,275 | 00:44:55,985 | but has not particularly been listened to. | but has not particularly been listened to. |
377 | 00:44:56,068 | 00:44:59,947 | He's an interesting character, Brown, because he's idealistic, | He's an interesting character, Brown, because he's idealistic, |
378 | 00:45:00,198 | 00:45:02,783 | but yet world-weary. | but yet world-weary. |
379 | 00:45:04,619 | 00:45:10,541 | And like Miller, he has a sixth sense that something's going wrong, | And like Miller, he has a sixth sense that something's going wrong, |
380 | 00:45:10,625 | 00:45:13,336 | but he doesn't actually know what it is. | but he doesn't actually know what it is. |
381 | 00:45:13,419 | 00:45:15,838 | I think Brown's idea is, | I think Brown's idea is, |
382 | 00:45:15,922 | 00:45:19,508 | "Look, the sites are not going to reveal an awful lot, | "Look, the sites are not going to reveal an awful lot, |
383 | 00:45:19,592 | 00:45:22,887 | "because many of them have been visited already by the UN teams, | "because many of them have been visited already by the UN teams, |
384 | 00:45:22,970 | 00:45:25,765 | "so let's go after the people." And that's his priority. | "so let's go after the people." And that's his priority. |
385 | 00:45:26,933 | 00:45:29,560 | He figures that if you can get the people, | He figures that if you can get the people, |
386 | 00:45:29,644 | 00:45:33,231 | then that will unlock where the weapons are. | then that will unlock where the weapons are. |
387 | 00:45:33,314 | 00:45:37,318 | He's the character who says to Miller, "There's something going on here." | He's the character who says to Miller, "There's something going on here." |
388 | 00:45:37,568 | 00:45:40,071 | "There's a reason why we're not finding the WMD." | "There's a reason why we're not finding the WMD." |
389 | 00:45:40,154 | 00:45:43,324 | "There's a darker secret here," | "There's a darker secret here," |
390 | 00:45:43,908 | 00:45:48,704 | and propels Miller on the road towards finding the answers. | and propels Miller on the road towards finding the answers. |
391 | 00:48:16,310 | 00:48:19,855 | There's a tenuous relationship | There's a tenuous relationship |
392 | 00:48:19,939 | 00:48:23,984 | between Martin Brown, Brendan's character, and Poundstone. | between Martin Brown, Brendan's character, and Poundstone. |
393 | 00:48:24,110 | 00:48:27,029 | You see their two different approaches. | You see their two different approaches. |
394 | 00:48:27,113 | 00:48:31,200 | The CIA guy who's been there for 25, 30 years, | The CIA guy who's been there for 25, 30 years, |
395 | 00:48:31,283 | 00:48:35,204 | he speaks Arabic, understands the culture, understands the country, | he speaks Arabic, understands the culture, understands the country, |
396 | 00:48:35,287 | 00:48:41,168 | who is being lambasted by this DOD guy, who's saying, "You guys are dinosaurs." | who is being lambasted by this DOD guy, who's saying, "You guys are dinosaurs." |
397 | 00:48:42,545 | 00:48:44,925 | The CIA guy's saying, "We can't trust some of this intelligence." | The CIA guy's saying, "We can't trust some of this intelligence." |
398 | 00:48:45,005 | 00:48:48,512 | The DOD guy's saying, "That's your problem. You take too long vetting this intelligence." | The DOD guy's saying, "That's your problem. You take too long vetting this intelligence." |
399 | 00:48:48,592 | 00:48:52,221 | And the CIA guy's saying, "Well, that's why we get it right." | And the CIA guy's saying, "Well, that's why we get it right." |
400 | 00:48:52,847 | 00:48:55,683 | So it's this very contentious relationship between those two guys. | So it's this very contentious relationship between those two guys. |
401 | 00:48:56,183 | 00:48:58,519 | Well, Poundstone's the bad guy. | Well, Poundstone's the bad guy. |
402 | 00:48:59,061 | 00:49:01,730 | And I love the fact that Greg plays him. | And I love the fact that Greg plays him. |
403 | 00:49:01,814 | 00:49:05,776 | He plays him really well, because it's not what you'd expect Greg to play. | He plays him really well, because it's not what you'd expect Greg to play. |
404 | 00:49:05,860 | 00:49:08,446 | So, he's playing against type, and he does it well. | So, he's playing against type, and he does it well. |
405 | 00:49:08,529 | 00:49:12,199 | He is a wonderful, incredible actor. | He is a wonderful, incredible actor. |
406 | 00:49:12,491 | 00:49:14,011 | I think that's what he told me to say. | I think that's what he told me to say. |
407 | 00:49:14,618 | 00:49:16,287 | No. No, actually. | No. No, actually. |
408 | 00:49:16,370 | 00:49:19,457 | I have been a really big fan of Greg's for a very long time. | I have been a really big fan of Greg's for a very long time. |
409 | 00:49:19,540 | 00:49:22,626 | He plays Poundstone as a bureaucrat, | He plays Poundstone as a bureaucrat, |
410 | 00:49:23,627 | 00:49:29,258 | actually, as an idealistic man who's come to Iraq to do the right thing, | actually, as an idealistic man who's come to Iraq to do the right thing, |
411 | 00:49:31,010 | 00:49:33,596 | but, obviously, along the way, he's cooked the books. | but, obviously, along the way, he's cooked the books. |
412 | 00:49:33,679 | 00:49:38,309 | And the more that Miller goes down the road of asking the question, | And the more that Miller goes down the road of asking the question, |
413 | 00:49:38,392 | 00:49:41,145 | "Well, who told us that the WMD were there?" | "Well, who told us that the WMD were there?" |
414 | 00:49:41,228 | 00:49:42,646 | The more Poundstone's in a corner, | The more Poundstone's in a corner, |
415 | 00:49:42,730 | 00:49:44,982 | and the more Poundstone has to lock the thing down, | and the more Poundstone has to lock the thing down, |
416 | 00:49:45,065 | 00:49:47,818 | and that's really what drives the climax of the film. | and that's really what drives the climax of the film. |
417 | 00:49:47,943 | 00:49:51,780 | Greg plays the guy who's been handing Lawrie Dayne her stories. | Greg plays the guy who's been handing Lawrie Dayne her stories. |
418 | 00:49:51,864 | 00:49:54,325 | And Greg's a terrific actor, | And Greg's a terrific actor, |
419 | 00:49:54,867 | 00:49:57,953 | and the whole plot basically centers around what he knows | and the whole plot basically centers around what he knows |
420 | 00:49:58,037 | 00:49:59,622 | and what he's been doing. | and what he's been doing. |
421 | 00:49:59,914 | 00:50:04,293 | Mr. Poundstone, who is probably not a villain to some people, | Mr. Poundstone, who is probably not a villain to some people, |
422 | 00:50:04,376 | 00:50:05,753 | and is to other people... | and is to other people... |
423 | 00:50:05,836 | 00:50:10,090 | I mean, the blacks and whites in this all turn to gray, | I mean, the blacks and whites in this all turn to gray, |
424 | 00:50:10,174 | 00:50:13,636 | obviously, 'cause it takes place in a war zone. | obviously, 'cause it takes place in a war zone. |
425 | 00:50:13,719 | 00:50:18,390 | But, definitely, he's been up to some troubling things. | But, definitely, he's been up to some troubling things. |
426 | 00:50:18,474 | 00:50:21,685 | He is a believer in... You know, it's about the end game. | He is a believer in... You know, it's about the end game. |
427 | 00:50:21,769 | 00:50:25,773 | It's not about the means of getting there, it's all about the end game. | It's not about the means of getting there, it's all about the end game. |
428 | 00:50:26,106 | 00:50:28,067 | And subsequently, | And subsequently, |
429 | 00:50:28,943 | 00:50:33,072 | he skirts the truth a little bit here and there to get things to happen, | he skirts the truth a little bit here and there to get things to happen, |
430 | 00:50:33,155 | 00:50:35,157 | and that kind of sets our story into motion. | and that kind of sets our story into motion. |
431 | 00:58:43,645 | 00:58:46,356 | Matt, yeah, his character is based on a role that I played | Matt, yeah, his character is based on a role that I played |
432 | 00:58:46,440 | 00:58:49,317 | and the roles that the soldiers are playing here, | and the roles that the soldiers are playing here, |
433 | 00:58:49,401 | 00:58:52,362 | modeled after the organization of my team that I had in Iraq at the time. | modeled after the organization of my team that I had in Iraq at the time. |
434 | 00:58:52,446 | 00:58:55,532 | They were called Mobile Exploitation Teams, MET Teams. | They were called Mobile Exploitation Teams, MET Teams. |
435 | 00:58:55,615 | 00:58:59,161 | And he, along with the other MET Team leaders, | And he, along with the other MET Team leaders, |
436 | 00:58:59,244 | 00:59:02,789 | were basically racing to see who was gonna be the first to get on CNN | were basically racing to see who was gonna be the first to get on CNN |
437 | 00:59:02,873 | 00:59:05,876 | holding up the proof that Saddam had these weapons. | holding up the proof that Saddam had these weapons. |
438 | 00:59:05,959 | 00:59:07,714 | That's really what drives Miller's character, | That's really what drives Miller's character, |
439 | 00:59:07,794 | 00:59:10,213 | because he's the guy in the story who says, | because he's the guy in the story who says, |
440 | 00:59:10,297 | 00:59:12,966 | "Well, hang on a second, who told us they were there and why?" | "Well, hang on a second, who told us they were there and why?" |
441 | 00:59:13,050 | 00:59:15,093 | "And how come they're not there?" | "And how come they're not there?" |
442 | 00:59:15,177 | 00:59:18,013 | Monty told me that he knew after the first site | Monty told me that he knew after the first site |
443 | 00:59:18,096 | 00:59:19,476 | that he wasn't going to find anything, | that he wasn't going to find anything, |
444 | 00:59:19,556 | 00:59:21,725 | because the intel packets that he got | because the intel packets that he got |
445 | 00:59:21,808 | 00:59:24,269 | just didn't correspond with what he was seeing on the ground. | just didn't correspond with what he was seeing on the ground. |
446 | 00:59:24,352 | 00:59:26,104 | He said, "Something's wrong here." | He said, "Something's wrong here." |
447 | 00:59:26,188 | 00:59:29,775 | When I arrived and I met Monty, I realized what perfect casting that was. | When I arrived and I met Monty, I realized what perfect casting that was. |
448 | 00:59:29,858 | 00:59:34,279 | And Matt has a quality of honesty. | And Matt has a quality of honesty. |
449 | 00:59:34,362 | 00:59:37,574 | He kind of radiates moral fiber | He kind of radiates moral fiber |
450 | 00:59:37,657 | 00:59:40,827 | in this kind of ethical universe you feel that he inhabits. | in this kind of ethical universe you feel that he inhabits. |
451 | 00:59:40,911 | 00:59:42,249 | And that's something that Monty has. | And that's something that Monty has. |
452 | 00:59:42,329 | 00:59:47,209 | He radiates some sense of moral foundation. | He radiates some sense of moral foundation. |
453 | 00:59:47,834 | 00:59:49,756 | You sense that from him, and the audience senses that from him. | You sense that from him, and the audience senses that from him. |
454 | 00:59:49,836 | 00:59:53,548 | And he takes us into this journey, this kind of nightmare journey | And he takes us into this journey, this kind of nightmare journey |
455 | 00:59:53,632 | 00:59:57,094 | into an almost surreal universe of Baghdad in 2003. | into an almost surreal universe of Baghdad in 2003. |
456 | 00:59:57,177 | 01:00:00,722 | And he represents us. He arrives with high hopes, | And he represents us. He arrives with high hopes, |
457 | 01:00:00,806 | 01:00:05,102 | and we watch that stuff turn into curiosity and anger | and we watch that stuff turn into curiosity and anger |
458 | 01:00:07,145 | 01:00:09,189 | and a sense that he needs to do something. | and a sense that he needs to do something. |
459 | 01:00:09,523 | 01:00:12,234 | It's like somebody pulling on a thread. | It's like somebody pulling on a thread. |
460 | 01:00:12,484 | 01:00:14,448 | He pulls on it, and he pulls on it, and he pulls on it, | He pulls on it, and he pulls on it, and he pulls on it, |
461 | 01:00:14,528 | 01:00:18,657 | until finally, he realizes what's going on underneath. | until finally, he realizes what's going on underneath. |
462 | 01:00:19,699 | 01:00:20,787 | And like any great thriller, | And like any great thriller, |
463 | 01:00:20,867 | 01:00:24,955 | that drives him on towards his date with destiny. | that drives him on towards his date with destiny. |
464 | 01:03:09,828 | 01:03:14,874 | Lawrie Dayne is played by Amy Ryan, who's a terrific actress. | Lawrie Dayne is played by Amy Ryan, who's a terrific actress. |
465 | 01:03:14,958 | 01:03:18,795 | She's basically the journalist who's responsible | She's basically the journalist who's responsible |
466 | 01:03:18,878 | 01:03:21,506 | for the administration's claims | for the administration's claims |
467 | 01:03:21,589 | 01:03:24,092 | that Saddam has weapons of mass destruction. | that Saddam has weapons of mass destruction. |
468 | 01:03:24,175 | 01:03:29,973 | She's somebody who has had some history with Clark Poundstone. | She's somebody who has had some history with Clark Poundstone. |
469 | 01:03:31,558 | 01:03:34,769 | In the past, they've obviously come across each other, | In the past, they've obviously come across each other, |
470 | 01:03:34,853 | 01:03:36,521 | and he's used her effectively | and he's used her effectively |
471 | 01:03:36,604 | 01:03:42,485 | as somebody to help get messages out to the public, | as somebody to help get messages out to the public, |
472 | 01:03:42,569 | 01:03:45,613 | in the way that that happens in the real world, to some degree. | in the way that that happens in the real world, to some degree. |
473 | 01:03:45,697 | 01:03:48,325 | Sources. He's a source for her. | Sources. He's a source for her. |
474 | 01:03:48,408 | 01:03:55,081 | She's a character, too, who probably spent her entire career writing about WMD. | She's a character, too, who probably spent her entire career writing about WMD. |
475 | 01:03:55,749 | 01:04:00,045 | And so, to find herself in this situation here in Iraq, | And so, to find herself in this situation here in Iraq, |
476 | 01:04:01,254 | 01:04:05,175 | as much as it is meaningful to find WMD, | as much as it is meaningful to find WMD, |
477 | 01:04:05,258 | 01:04:08,595 | it's very much what she's believed her whole career, | it's very much what she's believed her whole career, |
478 | 01:04:09,804 | 01:04:14,642 | so it's kind of the big moment in her career, as well, | so it's kind of the big moment in her career, as well, |
479 | 01:04:16,102 | 01:04:18,229 | to be there when they're found, if they're found. | to be there when they're found, if they're found. |
480 | 01:14:32,301 | 01:14:35,137 | Well, I like Morocco, actually, I think it's a good place. | Well, I like Morocco, actually, I think it's a good place. |
481 | 01:14:35,221 | 01:14:36,889 | Some people hate it. | Some people hate it. |
482 | 01:14:36,973 | 01:14:39,558 | I think it's a great place to shoot | I think it's a great place to shoot |
483 | 01:14:40,977 | 01:14:43,604 | because the landscape is very extreme, | because the landscape is very extreme, |
484 | 01:14:45,982 | 01:14:49,568 | and it's a film-friendly place. You can do a lot of stuff. | and it's a film-friendly place. You can do a lot of stuff. |
485 | 01:14:49,652 | 01:14:53,322 | You can have helicopters whizzing around and military vehicles. | You can have helicopters whizzing around and military vehicles. |
486 | 01:14:53,406 | 01:14:58,577 | You can stage big set pieces, which is what this movie is all about. | You can stage big set pieces, which is what this movie is all about. |
487 | 01:15:01,372 | 01:15:05,376 | It's a very sophisticated, film-friendly place. | It's a very sophisticated, film-friendly place. |
488 | 01:15:06,627 | 01:15:11,465 | Plus, when you're in those sorts of places, there's not much else to do except work, | Plus, when you're in those sorts of places, there's not much else to do except work, |
489 | 01:15:11,549 | 01:15:14,260 | so everybody keeps quite focused, which is good. | so everybody keeps quite focused, which is good. |
490 | 01:15:14,844 | 01:15:19,098 | It's the sights and sounds and smells you've never really quite experienced, | It's the sights and sounds and smells you've never really quite experienced, |
491 | 01:15:19,181 | 01:15:22,852 | but it makes you stay alert. | but it makes you stay alert. |
492 | 01:15:22,935 | 01:15:27,606 | And I wouldn't say it's dangerous, but it's wild. | And I wouldn't say it's dangerous, but it's wild. |
493 | 01:15:28,315 | 01:15:32,278 | It brings back, at least for me, it brings back some anxiety, | It brings back, at least for me, it brings back some anxiety, |
494 | 01:15:32,778 | 01:15:38,284 | 'cause it takes you back to when you were there. | 'cause it takes you back to when you were there. |
495 | 01:15:38,367 | 01:15:39,577 | At least, it takes me back. | At least, it takes me back. |
496 | 01:15:39,869 | 01:15:42,788 | And just seeing the vehicles and the gear, | And just seeing the vehicles and the gear, |
497 | 01:15:43,456 | 01:15:46,917 | you kind of get the winds blowing up, and the dust is kicking up today, | you kind of get the winds blowing up, and the dust is kicking up today, |
498 | 01:15:47,001 | 01:15:50,171 | so it's just like, "Oh, man, this is like Iraq." | so it's just like, "Oh, man, this is like Iraq." |
499 | 01:15:51,756 | 01:15:58,345 | So, even though it's a film, it seems all too real in a lot of cases. | So, even though it's a film, it seems all too real in a lot of cases. |
500 | 01:15:59,221 | 01:16:00,389 | It's pretty darn real. | It's pretty darn real. |
501 | 01:16:00,473 | 01:16:05,603 | The actors they have playing the Iraqis, Free Iraqi soldiers, are pretty convincing. | The actors they have playing the Iraqis, Free Iraqi soldiers, are pretty convincing. |
502 | 01:16:06,062 | 01:16:08,731 | Pretty convincing. They really... It's interesting. | Pretty convincing. They really... It's interesting. |
503 | 01:16:08,814 | 01:16:09,902 | It's very interesting to see the dynamic. | It's very interesting to see the dynamic. |
504 | 01:16:09,982 | 01:16:13,277 | You get a lot of the same feelings jumping out of the vehicle and moving up. | You get a lot of the same feelings jumping out of the vehicle and moving up. |
505 | 01:16:13,360 | 01:16:14,365 | A lot of us would talk about that, | A lot of us would talk about that, |
506 | 01:16:14,445 | 01:16:17,073 | you kind of have that same feeling, like you're back over there. | you kind of have that same feeling, like you're back over there. |
507 | 01:16:17,156 | 01:16:19,328 | Especially the way the set is set up, and the weather and all that, | Especially the way the set is set up, and the weather and all that, |
508 | 01:16:19,408 | 01:16:20,659 | it's pretty convincing. | it's pretty convincing. |
509 | 01:23:28,879 | 01:23:32,257 | The great thing about working with Paul is that he'll get two cameras going at once. | The great thing about working with Paul is that he'll get two cameras going at once. |
510 | 01:23:32,341 | 01:23:33,842 | So, he'll get one camera going, | So, he'll get one camera going, |
511 | 01:23:33,926 | 01:23:37,638 | and the second it dumps out, he'll switch the other one on. | and the second it dumps out, he'll switch the other one on. |
512 | 01:23:37,721 | 01:23:41,183 | Normally, you have to break every 11 minutes, | Normally, you have to break every 11 minutes, |
513 | 01:23:41,266 | 01:23:43,894 | because you have to change a magazine and reload the film. | because you have to change a magazine and reload the film. |
514 | 01:23:43,977 | 01:23:47,523 | These improvisations could go on for half an hour at a time. | These improvisations could go on for half an hour at a time. |
515 | 01:23:47,606 | 01:23:49,942 | Paul's an A-list director. He directs big movies. | Paul's an A-list director. He directs big movies. |
516 | 01:23:50,025 | 01:23:52,986 | And it's a big deal to get a job in one of his movies. | And it's a big deal to get a job in one of his movies. |
517 | 01:23:53,070 | 01:23:55,030 | And so, if you're a seasoned actor | And so, if you're a seasoned actor |
518 | 01:23:55,113 | 01:23:58,242 | and you're coming onto a Paul Greengrass set, | and you're coming onto a Paul Greengrass set, |
519 | 01:23:58,492 | 01:23:59,576 | you wanna do a good job. | you wanna do a good job. |
520 | 01:23:59,660 | 01:24:05,874 | And so to suddenly be told, "Well, don't worry about the script as you saw it," | And so to suddenly be told, "Well, don't worry about the script as you saw it," |
521 | 01:24:05,958 | 01:24:10,587 | I think it's a little arresting for anybody at first. | I think it's a little arresting for anybody at first. |
522 | 01:24:10,671 | 01:24:11,922 | I know it was for me. | I know it was for me. |
523 | 01:24:12,005 | 01:24:15,592 | I think this might be the first time I ever looked at a script on one of your films. | I think this might be the first time I ever looked at a script on one of your films. |
524 | 01:24:17,803 | 01:24:19,137 | This is fascinating. | This is fascinating. |
525 | 01:31:32,904 | 01:31:35,407 | One of the oddities of modern cinema | One of the oddities of modern cinema |
526 | 01:31:35,490 | 01:31:37,245 | is the way that people always talk about directors. | is the way that people always talk about directors. |
527 | 01:31:37,325 | 01:31:40,370 | "The director did this and the director did that," and all the rest of it. | "The director did this and the director did that," and all the rest of it. |
528 | 01:31:40,453 | 01:31:42,664 | And I'm pretty sure | And I'm pretty sure |
529 | 01:31:43,331 | 01:31:48,586 | that any director would say that any successful film that a director makes, | that any director would say that any successful film that a director makes, |
530 | 01:31:49,963 | 01:31:53,675 | a huge amount of the credit lies with the first assistant director, | a huge amount of the credit lies with the first assistant director, |
531 | 01:31:53,758 | 01:31:55,552 | whoever that person is. | whoever that person is. |
532 | 01:31:55,885 | 01:31:57,429 | And in my case, that's Chris Carreras, | And in my case, that's Chris Carreras, |
533 | 01:31:57,804 | 01:32:01,516 | who's, certainly on this side of the water, a legend. | who's, certainly on this side of the water, a legend. |
534 | 01:32:01,599 | 01:32:05,186 | The actor and the director just stop everything and defer to the AD. | The actor and the director just stop everything and defer to the AD. |
535 | 01:32:05,270 | 01:32:06,900 | When there's a production decision to be made, | When there's a production decision to be made, |
536 | 01:32:06,980 | 01:32:09,024 | the first AD is your last line of defense. | the first AD is your last line of defense. |
537 | 01:32:09,107 | 01:32:12,485 | He would've been a fantastic military officer. | He would've been a fantastic military officer. |
538 | 01:32:12,569 | 01:32:13,903 | In fact, if ever I went to war, | In fact, if ever I went to war, |
539 | 01:32:13,987 | 01:32:17,699 | I would definitely want Chris Carreras next to me in a trench, that's for sure. | I would definitely want Chris Carreras next to me in a trench, that's for sure. |
540 | 01:32:17,782 | 01:32:20,368 | All right, now, when we pull away, guys, | All right, now, when we pull away, guys, |
541 | 01:32:20,452 | 01:32:24,039 | I want everybody back behind that yellow barrier. | I want everybody back behind that yellow barrier. |
542 | 01:32:24,122 | 01:32:26,624 | Nobody comes out until we're back. | Nobody comes out until we're back. |
543 | 01:32:27,250 | 01:32:28,668 | Chris is great. Chris is great. | Chris is great. Chris is great. |
544 | 01:32:28,752 | 01:32:31,046 | I mean, I've been really lucky | I mean, I've been really lucky |
545 | 01:32:31,129 | 01:32:33,882 | with the directors that I've been able to work with. | with the directors that I've been able to work with. |
546 | 01:32:33,965 | 01:32:37,427 | By extension, when you work with great directors, | By extension, when you work with great directors, |
547 | 01:32:37,510 | 01:32:39,554 | you're always working with great firsts. | you're always working with great firsts. |
548 | 01:32:39,637 | 01:32:43,683 | And Chris is just as good as anyone I've ever seen, | And Chris is just as good as anyone I've ever seen, |
549 | 01:32:43,767 | 01:32:45,685 | and he's such a wonderful guy to boot. | and he's such a wonderful guy to boot. |
550 | 01:32:45,977 | 01:32:48,772 | - CO'd him. - Yeah, we call him Colonel Carreras. | - CO'd him. - Yeah, we call him Colonel Carreras. |
551 | 01:32:49,314 | 01:32:50,899 | But he's good. He's good people. | But he's good. He's good people. |
552 | 01:32:50,982 | 01:32:55,570 | He has the ability to drive a big film | He has the ability to drive a big film |
553 | 01:32:56,488 | 01:33:00,241 | with all its immense logistical demands, | with all its immense logistical demands, |
554 | 01:33:00,325 | 01:33:03,912 | and do it with a human touch, | and do it with a human touch, |
555 | 01:33:04,996 | 01:33:07,165 | without shouting and screaming at people, | without shouting and screaming at people, |
556 | 01:33:07,248 | 01:33:12,003 | and yet with the most meticulous attention to every single detail, | and yet with the most meticulous attention to every single detail, |
557 | 01:33:12,087 | 01:33:14,964 | so that, every hour, you're moving forward, | so that, every hour, you're moving forward, |
558 | 01:33:15,048 | 01:33:17,967 | even in the midst of what seems like utter chaos, | even in the midst of what seems like utter chaos, |
559 | 01:33:18,051 | 01:33:24,057 | and, at the same time, managing everything on set. | and, at the same time, managing everything on set. |
560 | 01:33:24,599 | 01:33:26,935 | The huge logistical demands, | The huge logistical demands, |
561 | 01:33:27,018 | 01:33:29,270 | the crew of several hundred people, in this case, | the crew of several hundred people, in this case, |
562 | 01:33:29,354 | 01:33:31,481 | hundreds and hundreds of extras and soldiers | hundreds and hundreds of extras and soldiers |
563 | 01:33:31,564 | 01:33:35,944 | and weapons and special effects and helicopters. | and weapons and special effects and helicopters. |
564 | 01:33:36,027 | 01:33:37,407 | I mean, it's a wonder to behold, really. | I mean, it's a wonder to behold, really. |
565 | 01:33:37,487 | 01:33:41,950 | It's not surprising that the soldiers really had a fondness for him. | It's not surprising that the soldiers really had a fondness for him. |
566 | 01:33:42,200 | 01:33:44,748 | I mean, after he's done talking, you know exactly what you need to do. | I mean, after he's done talking, you know exactly what you need to do. |
567 | 01:33:44,828 | 01:33:47,080 | So, he's real good at setting everything up. | So, he's real good at setting everything up. |
568 | 01:33:47,664 | 01:33:49,749 | He never raises his voice. | He never raises his voice. |
569 | 01:33:50,416 | 01:33:51,793 | Never, never raises his voice. | Never, never raises his voice. |
570 | 01:33:51,876 | 01:33:56,464 | Nothing shy of respect that comes out of this man. Seriously. | Nothing shy of respect that comes out of this man. Seriously. |
571 | 01:33:56,631 | 01:33:58,133 | He never curses, | He never curses, |
572 | 01:33:58,216 | 01:34:01,636 | he holds you responsible for your job, and if you're not on it, | he holds you responsible for your job, and if you're not on it, |
573 | 01:34:01,719 | 01:34:05,431 | he shoots you this steel-coated look, it says it all. | he shoots you this steel-coated look, it says it all. |
574 | 01:34:05,515 | 01:34:08,313 | And people start moving like they've got firecrackers under their feet. | And people start moving like they've got firecrackers under their feet. |
575 | 01:34:08,393 | 01:34:12,564 | But I think the other thing, too, is that his direction is so clear and concise | But I think the other thing, too, is that his direction is so clear and concise |
576 | 01:34:12,647 | 01:34:14,566 | that not many people mess up. | that not many people mess up. |
577 | 01:34:14,649 | 01:34:16,067 | He's both ends of the spectrum, | He's both ends of the spectrum, |
578 | 01:34:16,151 | 01:34:18,695 | as far as, when he talks, people jump and people move | as far as, when he talks, people jump and people move |
579 | 01:34:18,778 | 01:34:21,322 | and they know he means business. Then, on the other side of it, | and they know he means business. Then, on the other side of it, |
580 | 01:34:21,406 | 01:34:23,536 | he's remembering birthdays and he's having people sing, | he's remembering birthdays and he's having people sing, |
581 | 01:34:23,616 | 01:34:26,870 | and he's got the kids out and he's making jokes and... | and he's got the kids out and he's making jokes and... |
582 | 01:34:26,953 | 01:34:30,456 | He's both ends of the spectrum and everything good in between. | He's both ends of the spectrum and everything good in between. |
583 | 01:34:30,540 | 01:34:33,084 | When I win my Oscar, I'm gonna thank him first. | When I win my Oscar, I'm gonna thank him first. |
584 | 01:34:33,960 | 01:34:37,088 | To be a first AD on a big movie, when there's action involved... | To be a first AD on a big movie, when there's action involved... |
585 | 01:34:37,172 | 01:34:41,259 | You couldn't make films without a fantastic first AD. | You couldn't make films without a fantastic first AD. |
586 | 01:34:41,342 | 01:34:45,597 | And he's one of the world's great, great first ADS. | And he's one of the world's great, great first ADS. |
587 | 01:34:45,972 | 01:34:48,141 | There would've been no Bourne Ultimatum without him, | There would've been no Bourne Ultimatum without him, |
588 | 01:34:48,224 | 01:34:51,561 | there would've been no United 93. I mean, he's just... | there would've been no United 93. I mean, he's just... |
589 | 01:34:51,644 | 01:34:54,147 | For me, he's irreplaceable. | For me, he's irreplaceable. |
590 | 01:34:54,898 | 01:34:56,733 | Come here, Chris. | Come here, Chris. |
591 | 01:34:56,816 | 01:34:58,318 | Come on, Chris. | Come on, Chris. |
592 | 01:34:58,401 | 01:35:00,778 | - I was just talking about you. - Come on, Chris. | - I was just talking about you. - Come on, Chris. |
593 | 01:35:03,156 | 01:35:05,408 | This is not an interview, Chris. | This is not an interview, Chris. |
594 | 01:35:05,783 | 01:35:10,163 | When you think of the logistical exercise of getting three, four hundred people here, | When you think of the logistical exercise of getting three, four hundred people here, |
595 | 01:35:10,246 | 01:35:14,542 | moving from base, two or three miles away to the set, | moving from base, two or three miles away to the set, |
596 | 01:35:14,626 | 01:35:19,547 | actors to be got through make-up, costume, complicated scenes, stunts, | actors to be got through make-up, costume, complicated scenes, stunts, |
597 | 01:35:19,631 | 01:35:23,509 | helicopters, fights, | helicopters, fights, |
598 | 01:35:23,593 | 01:35:26,721 | and it all flows, ultimately, through that one guy. | and it all flows, ultimately, through that one guy. |
599 | 01:35:28,097 | 01:35:30,475 | We couldn't forget about the big dog. | We couldn't forget about the big dog. |
600 | 01:35:34,479 | 01:35:37,815 | We couldn't forget about the big dog. Paul's got all the ideas. | We couldn't forget about the big dog. Paul's got all the ideas. |
601 | 01:35:38,358 | 01:35:41,194 | Paul's got all the ideas, but Chris is the man that makes it happen, | Paul's got all the ideas, but Chris is the man that makes it happen, |
602 | 01:35:41,277 | 01:35:43,613 | so we wanted to make sure we thank him for it. | so we wanted to make sure we thank him for it. |
603 | 01:35:43,696 | 01:35:47,033 | It says, "To Chris Carreras, the top dog, for all the patience and direction." | It says, "To Chris Carreras, the top dog, for all the patience and direction." |
604 | 01:35:47,116 | 01:35:48,618 | "Thanks for everything." | "Thanks for everything." |
605 | 01:35:48,701 | 01:35:51,621 | "The men and women of the bases of Mildenhall and Lakenheath." | "The men and women of the bases of Mildenhall and Lakenheath." |
606 | 01:35:57,377 | 01:35:58,878 | Go Chris! | Go Chris! |
607 | 01:36:05,260 | 01:36:08,179 | Well, all I can say is, "Lunch." Thank you. | Well, all I can say is, "Lunch." Thank you. |
608 | 01:42:45,117 | 01:42:48,329 | The short amount of time that I've been with these guys, | The short amount of time that I've been with these guys, |
609 | 01:42:48,412 | 01:42:50,539 | it's reinforced what I've always believed. | it's reinforced what I've always believed. |
610 | 01:42:50,623 | 01:42:53,000 | I joined the Army for all the right reasons, | I joined the Army for all the right reasons, |
611 | 01:42:53,084 | 01:42:56,087 | but what I miss the most about it is the camaraderie | but what I miss the most about it is the camaraderie |
612 | 01:42:56,170 | 01:42:58,756 | and the bond that you have with the guys you're with. | and the bond that you have with the guys you're with. |
613 | 01:42:58,839 | 01:43:03,678 | Because once you get past the bureaucrats and the policies that put you there, | Because once you get past the bureaucrats and the policies that put you there, |
614 | 01:43:03,761 | 01:43:07,765 | the war really becomes your survival and that of your friends. | the war really becomes your survival and that of your friends. |
615 | 01:43:08,182 | 01:43:12,853 | It is indeed the man to the right, the man to the left, front and back. | It is indeed the man to the right, the man to the left, front and back. |
616 | 01:43:13,479 | 01:43:15,314 | You fight for them. | You fight for them. |
617 | 01:43:15,898 | 01:43:18,109 | Because the ultimate goal, | Because the ultimate goal, |
618 | 01:43:19,443 | 01:43:21,862 | at least for me, was to survive, | at least for me, was to survive, |
619 | 01:43:22,947 | 01:43:24,949 | and then just try to figure out the rest later. | and then just try to figure out the rest later. |
620 | 01:43:25,199 | 01:43:29,995 | We're a group of guys from all sorts of backgrounds | We're a group of guys from all sorts of backgrounds |
621 | 01:43:30,162 | 01:43:31,247 | and political beliefs, | and political beliefs, |
622 | 01:43:31,330 | 01:43:35,209 | and here we are, thrust into a unit. | and here we are, thrust into a unit. |
623 | 01:43:35,793 | 01:43:38,462 | And we're almost like family, | And we're almost like family, |
624 | 01:43:38,546 | 01:43:42,091 | because when you're born, you don't ask for the family you get, | because when you're born, you don't ask for the family you get, |
625 | 01:43:42,174 | 01:43:45,469 | you just kind of get the family you're born into, | you just kind of get the family you're born into, |
626 | 01:43:45,553 | 01:43:47,141 | and it's the same thing with the military. | and it's the same thing with the military. |
627 | 01:43:47,221 | 01:43:50,141 | You don't ask to go to a particular unit | You don't ask to go to a particular unit |
628 | 01:43:50,224 | 01:43:52,351 | and ask for particular people to be around you, | and ask for particular people to be around you, |
629 | 01:43:52,435 | 01:43:55,646 | you're just here, and you have to depend on these people. | you're just here, and you have to depend on these people. |
630 | 01:43:55,730 | 01:43:58,774 | We have a gentleman, Nicoye Banks, who's an actor, | We have a gentleman, Nicoye Banks, who's an actor, |
631 | 01:43:58,858 | 01:44:04,238 | but he has come into this mode of the military way of life, | but he has come into this mode of the military way of life, |
632 | 01:44:04,321 | 01:44:06,657 | and he has meshed pretty well with everybody. | and he has meshed pretty well with everybody. |
633 | 01:44:06,741 | 01:44:12,496 | So, that dynamic is awesome, | So, that dynamic is awesome, |
634 | 01:44:13,038 | 01:44:15,291 | because you can take people from all walks of life, | because you can take people from all walks of life, |
635 | 01:44:15,374 | 01:44:19,086 | and here we are, to come together as a unit | and here we are, to come together as a unit |
636 | 01:44:19,170 | 01:44:22,423 | and be able to portray this unit on film. | and be able to portray this unit on film. |
637 | 01:44:22,673 | 01:44:24,550 | I think we'll do a good job at that. | I think we'll do a good job at that. |
638 | 01:44:24,675 | 01:44:29,305 | Me, I'm the only one that's not a soldier, and they've taken me in as one of them. | Me, I'm the only one that's not a soldier, and they've taken me in as one of them. |
639 | 01:44:29,388 | 01:44:34,101 | And they haven't treated me any other way but a soldier who's sewed in the war. | And they haven't treated me any other way but a soldier who's sewed in the war. |
640 | 01:44:34,769 | 01:44:37,146 | I don't know if they just lucked out on the way they casted | I don't know if they just lucked out on the way they casted |
641 | 01:44:37,229 | 01:44:38,651 | or how they worked this whole thing out, | or how they worked this whole thing out, |
642 | 01:44:38,731 | 01:44:41,817 | but everybody we have comes from different branches of the service, | but everybody we have comes from different branches of the service, |
643 | 01:44:41,901 | 01:44:44,737 | and Nicoye is an actor, and he fit right in with our group. | and Nicoye is an actor, and he fit right in with our group. |
644 | 01:44:44,820 | 01:44:48,449 | Just like a bunch of soldiers who met up for the first time somewhere. | Just like a bunch of soldiers who met up for the first time somewhere. |
645 | 01:44:48,532 | 01:44:50,788 | It's interesting to see everybody come together so quickly. | It's interesting to see everybody come together so quickly. |
646 | 01:44:50,868 | 01:44:52,661 | It's just like being in a platoon. | It's just like being in a platoon. |
647 | 01:44:52,912 | 01:44:54,789 | I have a lot of respect for these men, | I have a lot of respect for these men, |
648 | 01:44:54,872 | 01:44:57,625 | so I was humbled. I still am. | so I was humbled. I still am. |
649 | 01:44:57,708 | 01:45:01,921 | But humbled, and gave them respect for what they've done for the country, | But humbled, and gave them respect for what they've done for the country, |
650 | 01:45:02,004 | 01:45:03,756 | for me and my family. | for me and my family. |
651 | 01:45:03,839 | 01:45:05,386 | But now that I've gotten to know these men, | But now that I've gotten to know these men, |
652 | 01:45:05,466 | 01:45:09,053 | I mean, it's written in stone, as far as I'm concerned. | I mean, it's written in stone, as far as I'm concerned. |
653 | 01:45:09,303 | 01:45:11,388 | In addition to that, they're just great. | In addition to that, they're just great. |
654 | 01:45:11,472 | 01:45:14,809 | They're just cool guys, | They're just cool guys, |
655 | 01:45:14,892 | 01:45:17,770 | and guys we're all really proud to have around | and guys we're all really proud to have around |
656 | 01:45:17,853 | 01:45:19,396 | and helping us on the movie. | and helping us on the movie. |
657 | 01:45:19,980 | 01:45:22,358 | I think the most important part, at least for this film, | I think the most important part, at least for this film, |
658 | 01:45:22,441 | 01:45:24,860 | is to honor the memory, | is to honor the memory, |
659 | 01:45:27,947 | 01:45:30,908 | honor the memory of folks who aren't with us anymore. | honor the memory of folks who aren't with us anymore. |
660 | 01:45:31,158 | 01:45:32,952 | I love that. I do. I really do. | I love that. I do. I really do. |
661 | 01:45:33,035 | 01:45:36,288 | I feel like my family has gotten pretty big. | I feel like my family has gotten pretty big. |
662 | 01:45:36,831 | 01:45:39,291 | I know a lot of people that I would consider friends here. | I know a lot of people that I would consider friends here. |
663 | 01:45:39,750 | 01:45:41,043 | These people are pretty amazing. | These people are pretty amazing. |
664 | 01:45:41,126 | 01:45:42,837 | - Take care. - Yeah. You, too. | - Take care. - Yeah. You, too. |
665 | 01:45:42,920 | 01:45:45,089 | - It's been a pleasure. - Thank you. | - It's been a pleasure. - Thank you. |
666 | 01:45:45,172 | 01:45:46,761 | I don't know, man. This is gut-wrenching. | I don't know, man. This is gut-wrenching. |
667 | 01:45:46,841 | 01:45:51,846 | It's been four months of just the best time of my life. | It's been four months of just the best time of my life. |
668 | 01:45:51,929 | 01:45:54,974 | I mean, everybody that we've met on the whole thing has been a blast, | I mean, everybody that we've met on the whole thing has been a blast, |
669 | 01:45:55,057 | 01:45:57,935 | and been friendly from the get-go. | and been friendly from the get-go. |
670 | 01:45:59,728 | 01:46:01,981 | In a lot of ways, a lot like the military. | In a lot of ways, a lot like the military. |
671 | 01:46:02,064 | 01:46:03,569 | You go places, you get close with guys, | You go places, you get close with guys, |
672 | 01:46:03,649 | 01:46:06,610 | and then you go your separate ways afterward. And it's never easy. | and then you go your separate ways afterward. And it's never easy. |
673 | 01:46:07,027 | 01:46:10,739 | And this one, I don't know, for some reason, it's really tough. | And this one, I don't know, for some reason, it's really tough. |
674 | 01:46:10,823 | 01:46:13,659 | So... Yeah, okay. | So... Yeah, okay. |
675 | 01:46:14,493 | 01:46:16,537 | I'll talk to you later. | I'll talk to you later. |