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1 00:01:10,028 00:01:13,198 It started, really, when Matt and I finished Bourne Ultimatum, It started, really, when Matt and I finished Bourne Ultimatum,
2 00:01:13,282 00:01:18,120 and we sat down and said, "Well, we need to make another kick-ass thriller." and we sat down and said, "Well, we need to make another kick-ass thriller."
3 00:01:18,787 00:01:21,081 "What's it gonna be about? Where are we gonna set it?" "What's it gonna be about? Where are we gonna set it?"
4 00:01:21,164 00:01:25,252 It was obvious, the most dangerous place in the whole of the world, It was obvious, the most dangerous place in the whole of the world,
5 00:01:25,335 00:01:26,878 at that point, was Baghdad. at that point, was Baghdad.
6 00:01:27,713 00:01:28,755 It was just obvious to us. It was just obvious to us.
7 00:01:28,839 00:01:31,675 Can you make a thriller in Baghdad? That's the mission. Can you make a thriller in Baghdad? That's the mission.
8 00:01:31,758 00:01:32,926 And the answer is, you can. And the answer is, you can.
9 00:01:33,010 00:01:36,471 If you've got a good story, and if you've got Matt Damon in it, If you've got a good story, and if you've got Matt Damon in it,
10 00:01:36,555 00:01:39,766 and if he's running and jumping and kicking a lot of ass, and if he's running and jumping and kicking a lot of ass,
11 00:01:39,850 00:01:41,852 then you have got a kick-ass thriller. then you have got a kick-ass thriller.
12 00:01:42,185 00:01:45,856 It's a thriller, a very simple thriller It's a thriller, a very simple thriller
13 00:01:46,732 00:01:53,697 with Iraq as the canvas, the backdrop, against which this thriller is told. with Iraq as the canvas, the backdrop, against which this thriller is told.
14 00:01:53,947 00:01:58,285 The mandate was, first and foremost, to create a story here with viable characters, The mandate was, first and foremost, to create a story here with viable characters,
15 00:01:58,368 00:02:01,413 and create a thriller and create a thriller
16 00:02:01,496 00:02:04,291 that people could relate to and feel excited by, that people could relate to and feel excited by,
17 00:02:04,374 00:02:09,004 and go check out and walk out saying, "Wow, there was a real movie there." and go check out and walk out saying, "Wow, there was a real movie there."
18 00:02:09,379 00:02:13,091 When you're making thrillers, you're looking for extremity, really. When you're making thrillers, you're looking for extremity, really.
19 00:02:13,175 00:02:17,929 Exciting places, places of danger, both moral and physical. Exciting places, places of danger, both moral and physical.
20 00:02:18,597 00:02:22,643 So, when we were planning this film, that was the reason to go to Baghdad, So, when we were planning this film, that was the reason to go to Baghdad,
21 00:02:22,726 00:02:26,772 because it was, at that time, one of the most dangerous places on earth. because it was, at that time, one of the most dangerous places on earth.
22 00:02:26,855 00:02:28,857 It's a great place to set a thriller. It's a great place to set a thriller.
23 00:02:28,940 00:02:32,402 But what you gotta do is find a story that sits in that world But what you gotta do is find a story that sits in that world
24 00:02:32,486 00:02:35,364 and hooks an audience in and drives them forward. and hooks an audience in and drives them forward.
25 00:02:35,447 00:02:37,167 That's what we tried to do with Green Zone. That's what we tried to do with Green Zone.
26 00:03:00,639 00:03:05,018 I was in charge of one of the WMD teams in Iraq in 2003 I was in charge of one of the WMD teams in Iraq in 2003
27 00:03:05,102 00:03:06,436 that was conducting the search. that was conducting the search.
28 00:03:06,728 00:03:08,188 We were a very small team We were a very small team
29 00:03:08,271 00:03:09,693 and kind of in the center of a very large storm and kind of in the center of a very large storm
30 00:03:09,773 00:03:11,361 that the whole world happened to have its eyes on, that the whole world happened to have its eyes on,
31 00:03:11,441 00:03:12,776 it was focused on, at the time. it was focused on, at the time.
32 00:03:12,859 00:03:14,277 Just a handful of guys. Just a handful of guys.
33 00:03:14,361 00:03:16,238 We were thrown together at the last minute We were thrown together at the last minute
34 00:03:16,321 00:03:19,199 to conduct this operation that no one had really planned for, to conduct this operation that no one had really planned for,
35 00:03:19,282 00:03:20,867 trained for or forecasted. trained for or forecasted.
36 00:03:20,951 00:03:24,246 And once the reality on the ground changed from what we expected it to be And once the reality on the ground changed from what we expected it to be
37 00:03:24,329 00:03:28,166 to what we discovered the truth was, it became a search for the truth to what we discovered the truth was, it became a search for the truth
38 00:03:28,250 00:03:30,669 rather than a search for weapons of mass destruction, rather than a search for weapons of mass destruction,
39 00:03:30,752 00:03:35,382 which, it started to become more and more clear to us as the operation went on, which, it started to become more and more clear to us as the operation went on,
40 00:03:35,465 00:03:37,759 it was unlikely that we were gonna find. it was unlikely that we were gonna find.
41 00:03:37,843 00:03:40,011 So, for the entire team, that's what it became. So, for the entire team, that's what it became.
42 00:03:40,095 00:03:44,349 And I think this film, like our experience, is about that discovery And I think this film, like our experience, is about that discovery
43 00:03:44,433 00:03:49,312 and that transfer from the rote, procedural direction and that transfer from the rote, procedural direction
44 00:03:49,396 00:03:52,649 that they were taking it initially, based on some assumptions, that they were taking it initially, based on some assumptions,
45 00:03:52,733 00:03:56,403 into a search for the truth, and then asking those tough questions. into a search for the truth, and then asking those tough questions.
46 00:04:16,465 00:04:19,593 We're playing out the scene where our team goes to look for some files We're playing out the scene where our team goes to look for some files
47 00:04:19,676 00:04:23,346 that have information pertaining to weapons of mass destruction. that have information pertaining to weapons of mass destruction.
48 00:04:23,430 00:04:26,224 And we're met by a group of people that are already there. And we're met by a group of people that are already there.
49 00:04:26,308 00:04:30,604 This is the opening scene for Chief Miller and our WMD team. This is the opening scene for Chief Miller and our WMD team.
50 00:04:30,687 00:04:33,356 They're arriving at the suspected WMD facility. They're arriving at the suspected WMD facility.
51 00:04:33,440 00:04:38,445 The whole point about this film is to try and take us back to the mind-set The whole point about this film is to try and take us back to the mind-set
52 00:04:38,528 00:04:41,156 that we all had on the eve of the war. that we all had on the eve of the war.
53 00:04:41,239 00:04:46,161 We'd been told that Iraq was full of these terrible weapons, We'd been told that Iraq was full of these terrible weapons,
54 00:04:46,244 00:04:50,415 and here we are with a team that's coming in to find them. and here we are with a team that's coming in to find them.
55 00:04:51,124 00:04:52,421 In a way, you've got a group of guys In a way, you've got a group of guys
56 00:04:52,501 00:04:54,544 who are sort of facing the doomsday scenario. who are sort of facing the doomsday scenario.
57 00:04:54,628 00:04:55,841 They think they're gonna come in here They think they're gonna come in here
58 00:04:55,921 00:04:59,591 and find the most terrible chemical and nuclear and biological weapons. and find the most terrible chemical and nuclear and biological weapons.
59 00:04:59,674 00:05:03,178 When they arrive here, of course, the place is being looted. It's chaos. When they arrive here, of course, the place is being looted. It's chaos.
60 00:05:03,261 00:05:04,387 They're just driving on, They're just driving on,
61 00:05:04,471 00:05:08,141 because they've got to get to where they believe these weapons are. because they've got to get to where they believe these weapons are.
62 00:05:08,225 00:05:11,478 Of course, the question of the film is, do they find them, Of course, the question of the film is, do they find them,
63 00:05:11,561 00:05:13,146 and what happens when they get there? and what happens when they get there?
64 00:06:29,014 00:06:30,977 The big thing for me in this movie was working with... The big thing for me in this movie was working with...
65 00:06:31,057 00:06:34,311 We had a bunch of veterans who'd just come back from Iraq and Afghanistan. We had a bunch of veterans who'd just come back from Iraq and Afghanistan.
66 00:06:34,728 00:06:36,563 And that was really who made up our cast. And that was really who made up our cast.
67 00:06:36,646 00:06:39,190 Well, I think we made a commitment going in Well, I think we made a commitment going in
68 00:06:39,274 00:06:42,402 that we were gonna people the film with vets, that we were gonna people the film with vets,
69 00:06:42,485 00:06:45,155 people who'd been in Iraq and knew what it was about. people who'd been in Iraq and knew what it was about.
70 00:06:45,405 00:06:48,491 That gives you a sort of baseline of reality. That gives you a sort of baseline of reality.
71 00:06:48,700 00:06:49,701 Jerry Della Salla. Jerry Della Salla.
72 00:06:49,784 00:06:55,248 I served as a military police officer at the Abu Ghraib prison, post-scandal. I served as a military police officer at the Abu Ghraib prison, post-scandal.
73 00:06:55,332 00:06:58,168 I was part of a recovery mission for those scandals. I was part of a recovery mission for those scandals.
74 00:06:58,251 00:07:02,589 And I served for the latter part of '04 and all of '05. And I served for the latter part of '04 and all of '05.
75 00:07:02,797 00:07:05,258 Sean Huze. Originally from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Sean Huze. Originally from Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
76 00:07:05,342 00:07:07,719 I was with the United States Marine Corps, I was with the United States Marine Corps,
77 00:07:07,802 00:07:09,482 2nd Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion, 2nd Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion,
78 00:07:09,679 00:07:12,474 and served in Iraq in 2003 as part of the invasion. and served in Iraq in 2003 as part of the invasion.
79 00:07:12,557 00:07:13,850 Abdul Henderson. Abdul Henderson.
80 00:07:14,142 00:07:18,146 Well, my job in the Marine Corps, I was an 0861, a Forward Observer. Well, my job in the Marine Corps, I was an 0861, a Forward Observer.
81 00:07:18,229 00:07:24,402 I specialized in calling in artillery and close air support and naval gunfire. I specialized in calling in artillery and close air support and naval gunfire.
82 00:07:24,486 00:07:26,029 My name is Brian Van Riper. My name is Brian Van Riper.
83 00:07:26,112 00:07:30,075 I joined the Marine Corps the week after high school ended in 2000. I joined the Marine Corps the week after high school ended in 2000.
84 00:07:30,158 00:07:33,119 I did four years and jumped around the world for... I did four years and jumped around the world for...
85 00:07:33,203 00:07:37,123 I hit about 20 countries, and I was in the infantry. I hit about 20 countries, and I was in the infantry.
86 00:07:37,207 00:07:40,126 I went to Iraq in the summer of '03 I went to Iraq in the summer of '03
87 00:07:40,710 00:07:44,089 and got out of the Marine Corps in May of '04. and got out of the Marine Corps in May of '04.
88 00:07:44,464 00:07:47,050 Mike Dwyer from New York. I'm a Marine. Mike Dwyer from New York. I'm a Marine.
89 00:07:47,133 00:07:50,887 My experiences are in Al Anbar province in Fallujah. My experiences are in Al Anbar province in Fallujah.
90 00:07:51,304 00:07:52,973 I was there in '06. I was there in '06.
91 00:07:53,056 00:07:56,142 My name's Nathan Lewis. I'm from Barker. My name's Nathan Lewis. I'm from Barker.
92 00:07:56,226 00:07:58,895 It's a small town 30 miles east of Niagara Falls. It's a small town 30 miles east of Niagara Falls.
93 00:07:59,270 00:08:03,650 I spent a considerable amount of time in Baghdad. I spent a considerable amount of time in Baghdad.
94 00:08:03,733 00:08:07,904 We stayed, probably, 15 kilometers south, We stayed, probably, 15 kilometers south,
95 00:08:08,571 00:08:11,741 and most of the time, we were driving to Baghdad for our missions. and most of the time, we were driving to Baghdad for our missions.
96 00:08:12,033 00:08:14,411 I was the Active-Duty Army. Two and a half years. I was the Active-Duty Army. Two and a half years.
97 00:08:14,494 00:08:17,580 Alex Drum, Army. I just did one tour over there. Alex Drum, Army. I just did one tour over there.
98 00:08:18,456 00:08:22,502 One tour in Iraq, just north of Baghdad in the Taji area. One tour in Iraq, just north of Baghdad in the Taji area.
99 00:08:22,836 00:08:24,629 Eugene Cherry, Chicago, Illinois. Eugene Cherry, Chicago, Illinois.
100 00:08:24,713 00:08:29,092 I was an Army medic in 10th Mountain Division, Fort Drum, New York. I was an Army medic in 10th Mountain Division, Fort Drum, New York.
101 00:08:29,634 00:08:32,971 And I was in Iraq in 2004 through 2005. And I was in Iraq in 2004 through 2005.
102 00:08:33,263 00:08:34,848 My name's Edouard H.R. Gluck. My name's Edouard H.R. Gluck.
103 00:08:34,931 00:08:38,601 I spent about 10 years altogether in the Army. Various units. I spent about 10 years altogether in the Army. Various units.
104 00:08:39,269 00:08:41,730 Started off in Special Forces Support Battalion for a year. Started off in Special Forces Support Battalion for a year.
105 00:08:42,188 00:08:45,984 Joined the line infantry in the Florida Army National Guard, 1998. Joined the line infantry in the Florida Army National Guard, 1998.
106 00:08:46,317 00:08:48,028 I went to Iraq, I went to Iraq,
107 00:08:48,111 00:08:51,072 and the latter part of my tour I spent with the 82nd Airborne Division, and the latter part of my tour I spent with the 82nd Airborne Division,
108 00:08:51,156 00:08:53,241 Long Range Surveillance Detachment in Iraq. Long Range Surveillance Detachment in Iraq.
109 00:08:54,200 00:08:55,910 Paul Michael Karsko. Paul Michael Karsko.
110 00:08:55,994 00:08:59,164 I was a .50 caliber gunner on a five-ton truck. I was a .50 caliber gunner on a five-ton truck.
111 00:08:59,664 00:09:03,293 1058 Gun Truck Company. We were with the 1st Infantry Division. 1058 Gun Truck Company. We were with the 1st Infantry Division.
112 00:09:04,044 00:09:08,089 Yeah, I'm a veteran. I was in for four years, '99 to '03. Yeah, I'm a veteran. I was in for four years, '99 to '03.
113 00:09:08,673 00:09:12,260 And I was deployed in Iraq in '03, And I was deployed in Iraq in '03,
114 00:09:12,802 00:09:14,516 and I was actually assigned on one of the MET Teams and I was actually assigned on one of the MET Teams
115 00:09:14,596 00:09:17,348 that the movie's about. I was on MET Team Bravo. that the movie's about. I was on MET Team Bravo.
116 00:09:17,432 00:09:20,393 Adam Charles Wendling. I'm from Iowa. Adam Charles Wendling. I'm from Iowa.
117 00:09:20,810 00:09:25,065 I was there from March of 2006 to July of 2007. I was there from March of 2006 to July of 2007.
118 00:09:25,148 00:09:26,816 I'm a sniper team leader. I'm a sniper team leader.
119 00:09:26,941 00:09:28,610 My name is Nicoye Banks. My name is Nicoye Banks.
120 00:09:28,693 00:09:29,903 I am the actor. I am the actor.
121 00:09:29,986 00:09:33,031 It's a Whole new movie if y'all mess with me, I'm telling you. It's a Whole new movie if y'all mess with me, I'm telling you.
122 00:09:33,114 00:09:34,074 Cut! Cut!
123 00:09:34,157 00:09:36,826 Get that on film, baby. That's the highlight. Get that on film, baby. That's the highlight.
124 00:09:36,910 00:09:38,995 See, I like the way y'all do business around here. See, I like the way y'all do business around here.
125 00:09:40,830 00:09:45,001 There are a couple of guys here that have just a tremendous amount of experience. There are a couple of guys here that have just a tremendous amount of experience.
126 00:09:45,085 00:09:51,883 And so, when asked to tackle an adversary and take them to the ground And so, when asked to tackle an adversary and take them to the ground
127 00:09:51,966 00:09:56,471 and search them and flex-cuff them and do whatever you do with a prisoner, and search them and flex-cuff them and do whatever you do with a prisoner,
128 00:09:56,846 00:09:58,306 there's no rehearsal needed. there's no rehearsal needed.
129 00:09:58,389 00:10:01,226 These guys have done that 100 times. They just do it. These guys have done that 100 times. They just do it.
130 00:10:01,309 00:10:03,728 When you've trained for years to do this stuff, When you've trained for years to do this stuff,
131 00:10:03,812 00:10:05,188 they term it "muscle memory," they term it "muscle memory,"
132 00:10:05,396 00:10:08,358 and you just go with the flow, you should know how to react, and you just go with the flow, you should know how to react,
133 00:10:08,441 00:10:10,485 and that's what we were trying to do. and that's what we were trying to do.
134 00:10:11,528 00:10:16,074 I'm not much of an actor, so I just kind of go with the flow. I'm not much of an actor, so I just kind of go with the flow.
135 00:10:16,157 00:10:17,283 It's pretty scary. It's pretty scary.
136 00:10:17,367 00:10:21,412 I haven't touched a rifle in four years, since I came back from Iraq. I haven't touched a rifle in four years, since I came back from Iraq.
137 00:10:21,830 00:10:24,457 To pick up a weapon and throw on a flak jacket To pick up a weapon and throw on a flak jacket
138 00:10:24,541 00:10:28,211 and the uniform and the boots, it just feels all too natural. and the uniform and the boots, it just feels all too natural.
139 00:10:30,213 00:10:33,049 Even climbing in and out of the Humvees as we're doing the scenes, Even climbing in and out of the Humvees as we're doing the scenes,
140 00:10:33,133 00:10:37,554 hopping out of the Humvees simulating an engagement scene, hopping out of the Humvees simulating an engagement scene,
141 00:10:38,388 00:10:41,015 it all feels natural. it all feels natural.
142 00:10:42,433 00:10:45,979 When they say "muscle memory," it's like the memory is definitely still there, When they say "muscle memory," it's like the memory is definitely still there,
143 00:10:46,062 00:10:48,773 because I don't feel uncomfortable. because I don't feel uncomfortable.
144 00:10:48,857 00:10:52,318 It just feels that, "Okay, this is how it's supposed to go." It just feels that, "Okay, this is how it's supposed to go."
145 00:10:52,735 00:10:53,736 It's pretty interesting, It's pretty interesting,
146 00:10:53,820 00:10:56,990 but I guess when you sleep with a rifle for six months but I guess when you sleep with a rifle for six months
147 00:10:57,073 00:10:59,993 and you live in and out of a Humvee for six months, and you live in and out of a Humvee for six months,
148 00:11:00,076 00:11:03,079 it kind of becomes a second home, in a sense. it kind of becomes a second home, in a sense.
149 00:11:03,413 00:11:07,834 Paul kind of unexpectedly has them fire off a couple rounds. Paul kind of unexpectedly has them fire off a couple rounds.
150 00:11:07,917 00:11:10,086 You know, everything changes. Their whole demeanor. You know, everything changes. Their whole demeanor.
151 00:11:10,170 00:11:12,672 You can't fake that adrenaline and that heightened awareness You can't fake that adrenaline and that heightened awareness
152 00:11:12,755 00:11:14,966 when these guys have been shot at a number of times, when these guys have been shot at a number of times,
153 00:11:15,049 00:11:19,304 and they start hearing small arms, they just... A different thing happens. and they start hearing small arms, they just... A different thing happens.
154 00:11:19,387 00:11:21,307 It's just not something that's Hollywood, at all. It's just not something that's Hollywood, at all.
155 00:11:21,431 00:11:24,184 That was good, man. That was a rush. That was good, man. That was a rush.
156 00:11:24,267 00:11:25,647 That was the ultimate rush, right there. That was the ultimate rush, right there.
157 00:11:25,727 00:11:28,313 All I had to hear was the... All I had to hear was the...
158 00:11:28,396 00:11:30,690 - Like real rounds. - Yeah, a whizz and a crack. - Like real rounds. - Yeah, a whizz and a crack.
159 00:11:30,773 00:11:33,067 It was just like, "Who's firing at us?" It was just like, "Who's firing at us?"
160 00:11:33,151 00:11:34,819 "Who's shooting at us again?" "Who's shooting at us again?"
161 00:11:34,903 00:11:37,447 Instinct comes in, and training then kicks in, Instinct comes in, and training then kicks in,
162 00:11:38,489 00:11:40,992 and everything just meshes together as it should. and everything just meshes together as it should.
163 00:11:41,075 00:11:44,537 It's kind of weird how it all works together, really. It's kind of weird how it all works together, really.
164 00:11:45,079 00:11:47,665 It just does. It just happens. It just does. It just happens.
165 00:11:47,749 00:11:52,837 A lot of communication and a lot of trust, a lot of confusion, chaos, A lot of communication and a lot of trust, a lot of confusion, chaos,
166 00:11:53,087 00:11:57,091 not understanding why we're doing what we're doing, but we're doing it. not understanding why we're doing what we're doing, but we're doing it.
167 00:11:57,175 00:12:00,094 A lot of them are triggered by the vehicle skidding to a stop, A lot of them are triggered by the vehicle skidding to a stop,
168 00:12:00,178 00:12:01,349 by gunfire, by something going on, by gunfire, by something going on,
169 00:12:01,429 00:12:05,975 and usually that already kind of triggers that side of you. and usually that already kind of triggers that side of you.
170 00:12:06,517 00:12:09,729 Kind of gets you back into work mode. And I think it definitely comes out here. Kind of gets you back into work mode. And I think it definitely comes out here.
171 00:12:09,812 00:12:11,689 It's pretty easy to fall right back into that, It's pretty easy to fall right back into that,
172 00:12:11,773 00:12:14,573 especially if there's a lot of people around you reacting the same way. especially if there's a lot of people around you reacting the same way.
173 00:12:14,776 00:12:15,947 It just brings that instinct out. It just brings that instinct out.
174 00:12:16,027 00:12:21,491 A lot of us have been in the military for four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 years. A lot of us have been in the military for four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 years.
175 00:12:21,574 00:12:23,580 So, after a while, training, all that gets ingrained, So, after a while, training, all that gets ingrained,
176 00:12:23,660 00:12:27,956 and I think it's all coming out now, in this. It's interesting to see it all come together. and I think it's all coming out now, in this. It's interesting to see it all come together.
177 00:12:28,039 00:12:30,917 It's scary-real, sometimes, the way it feels It's scary-real, sometimes, the way it feels
178 00:12:31,000 00:12:33,336 when you're actually running through the motions. when you're actually running through the motions.
179 00:12:33,419 00:12:37,423 Really feels like it's kind of happening. It's a little weird sometimes. Really feels like it's kind of happening. It's a little weird sometimes.
180 00:12:37,507 00:12:40,551 But, yeah, I wouldn't call it acting, by any means. But, yeah, I wouldn't call it acting, by any means.
181 00:12:40,635 00:12:43,513 With the equipment and putting everything on, With the equipment and putting everything on,
182 00:12:44,597 00:12:47,267 you start thinking in terms of security, you start thinking in terms of security,
183 00:12:47,350 00:12:51,312 and you walk around, you look at rooftops and windows and doors. and you walk around, you look at rooftops and windows and doors.
184 00:12:51,396 00:12:53,940 You just kind of treat this weapon like it's real. You just kind of treat this weapon like it's real.
185 00:12:54,023 00:12:56,651 It's like riding a bike. You don't forget it. It's like riding a bike. You don't forget it.
186 00:12:56,734 00:12:59,734 One of the things we talked about, as a team, is the guys that are veterans, One of the things we talked about, as a team, is the guys that are veterans,
187 00:13:00,363 00:13:02,532 you're asked to go down that road again, you're asked to go down that road again,
188 00:13:03,116 00:13:04,996 maybe only in a little bit more of a dramatic sense, maybe only in a little bit more of a dramatic sense,
189 00:13:05,076 00:13:09,706 but it is, nonetheless, refreshing and helpful but it is, nonetheless, refreshing and helpful
190 00:13:09,789 00:13:13,793 because maybe some things that you had issues with because maybe some things that you had issues with
191 00:13:13,876 00:13:17,171 when you got home, you're able to play out here. when you got home, you're able to play out here.
192 00:13:17,255 00:13:21,426 And it's a good environment to do that. It's a safe environment. And it's a good environment to do that. It's a safe environment.
193 00:13:21,509 00:13:24,804 And I think in many ways, And I think in many ways,
194 00:13:24,887 00:13:29,934 as a veteran, I've been able to kind of expose myself to things as a veteran, I've been able to kind of expose myself to things
195 00:13:31,060 00:13:33,896 that maybe I needed to come to grips with. that maybe I needed to come to grips with.
196 00:13:34,564 00:13:37,233 I get the feeling that most of these guys I get the feeling that most of these guys
197 00:13:37,317 00:13:40,528 have been propelled forward in life because of their experiences, have been propelled forward in life because of their experiences,
198 00:13:40,611 00:13:42,322 rather than being held back rather than being held back
199 00:13:42,405 00:13:46,743 or suffered some sort of traumatic emotional experience because of it. or suffered some sort of traumatic emotional experience because of it.
200 00:13:47,702 00:13:51,039 That said, there have definitely been scenes That said, there have definitely been scenes
201 00:13:51,122 00:13:55,418 where you can visibly see these guys acting out scenes where you can visibly see these guys acting out scenes
202 00:13:58,880 00:14:01,135 and getting that look, and that feel, and that sensation that, and getting that look, and that feel, and that sensation that,
203 00:14:01,215 00:14:04,344 "Hey, I've been here before. This is very real." "Hey, I've been here before. This is very real."
204 00:14:04,427 00:14:06,429 There's a very real feeling to it. There's a very real feeling to it.
205 00:14:06,512 00:14:09,015 I know that's exactly what Paul's trying to create. I know that's exactly what Paul's trying to create.
206 00:14:09,098 00:14:10,767 So, it's really good. So, it's really good.
207 00:14:11,684 00:14:14,479 - Cut! Good. - Cut that. - Cut! Good. - Cut that.
208 00:14:14,562 00:14:16,022 It's pretty intense, very real. It's pretty intense, very real.
209 00:14:16,105 00:14:18,691 You wouldn't expect anything less from Paul, though. You wouldn't expect anything less from Paul, though.
210 00:14:18,775 00:14:19,901 So, it's good to go. So, it's good to go.
211 00:14:19,984 00:14:21,736 It feels really real, actually. It feels really real, actually.
212 00:14:21,819 00:14:25,323 I feel like I'm charging through somewhere and possibly might get shot, I feel like I'm charging through somewhere and possibly might get shot,
213 00:14:25,406 00:14:27,950 or I don't know what's coming next, and everything else. or I don't know what's coming next, and everything else.
214 00:14:28,034 00:14:29,035 I'm pretty amped up. I'm pretty amped up.
215 00:14:29,118 00:14:31,287 I'm still amped up, right now, from the last scene. I'm still amped up, right now, from the last scene.
216 00:14:31,496 00:14:35,249 I spent as much time as possible hanging out with soldiers I spent as much time as possible hanging out with soldiers
217 00:14:35,333 00:14:36,709 and behaving like a parasite. and behaving like a parasite.
218 00:14:36,793 00:14:40,033 Listening to how they talk to each other and asking as many questions as possible. Listening to how they talk to each other and asking as many questions as possible.
219 00:14:40,254 00:14:42,882 This is better than any acting class I could've taken. This is better than any acting class I could've taken.
220 00:14:42,965 00:14:44,384 This isn't a book. This isn't a book.
221 00:14:44,467 00:14:47,512 I mean, I did my research prior to as much as I could, I mean, I did my research prior to as much as I could,
222 00:14:47,595 00:14:48,638 based on what I knew, based on what I knew,
223 00:14:48,888 00:14:51,891 but there's a big difference between learning what a soldier does but there's a big difference between learning what a soldier does
224 00:14:51,974 00:14:54,185 and how they do what they do and how they do what they do
225 00:14:55,019 00:14:58,773 versus being one, and being in a situation like Iraq. versus being one, and being in a situation like Iraq.
226 00:14:59,690 00:15:01,401 These men were in Iraq. These men were in Iraq.
227 00:15:01,484 00:15:03,736 They were in the heart of it. They were in the heart of it.
228 00:15:03,820 00:15:07,365 Different jobs, Different jobs,
229 00:15:08,366 00:15:10,827 but the same, they have one common denominator. but the same, they have one common denominator.
230 00:15:13,830 00:15:16,040 And it's amazing. It really is. And it's amazing. It really is.
231 00:15:16,124 00:15:18,334 It's overwhelming, to be honest with you. It's overwhelming, to be honest with you.
232 00:15:18,751 00:15:21,003 Well, in the end, there's only so far you can get Well, in the end, there's only so far you can get
233 00:15:21,087 00:15:22,713 by getting actors to play soldiers. by getting actors to play soldiers.
234 00:15:23,005 00:15:25,383 You're better off, in my view, You're better off, in my view,
235 00:15:26,676 00:15:28,845 I say that, having done it over a number of films, I say that, having done it over a number of films,
236 00:15:28,928 00:15:33,057 you're better off getting soldiers to act than you are getting actors to be soldiers. you're better off getting soldiers to act than you are getting actors to be soldiers.
237 00:15:33,141 00:15:36,102 They started to trust the process. They started to trust the process.
238 00:15:36,185 00:15:40,231 I think what they wondered is, "Is there a political agenda here?" I think what they wondered is, "Is there a political agenda here?"
239 00:15:40,690 00:15:44,235 Because the guys were from all across the political spectrum, Because the guys were from all across the political spectrum,
240 00:15:44,318 00:15:48,114 and they were kind of trying to figure out what exactly was going on, and they were kind of trying to figure out what exactly was going on,
241 00:15:48,197 00:15:50,032 what was expected of them. what was expected of them.
242 00:15:50,366 00:15:55,538 And so I think some of them came very wary of the film, And so I think some of them came very wary of the film,
243 00:15:57,457 00:16:00,460 and wanted to make sure that it wasn't going to do anything and wanted to make sure that it wasn't going to do anything
244 00:16:00,543 00:16:03,421 to dishonor their service in any way. to dishonor their service in any way.
245 00:16:03,504 00:16:05,006 And I think, in short order, And I think, in short order,
246 00:16:05,089 00:16:09,677 they realized what kind of person Paul was and what kind of movie this was gonna be, they realized what kind of person Paul was and what kind of movie this was gonna be,
247 00:16:09,760 00:16:12,972 and so they really got into it, and they were terrific. and so they really got into it, and they were terrific.
248 00:16:13,055 00:16:15,349 You feel the weight and the significance You feel the weight and the significance
249 00:16:15,433 00:16:18,686 of having these guys around of having these guys around
250 00:16:18,769 00:16:21,731 who have lived this experience, who know about it. who have lived this experience, who know about it.
251 00:16:21,814 00:16:24,859 There's an air of credibility to the story There's an air of credibility to the story
252 00:16:24,942 00:16:28,488 when Matt's able to bounce ideas off these guys, when Matt's able to bounce ideas off these guys,
253 00:16:28,571 00:16:30,698 when these guys are there. when these guys are there.
254 00:16:30,781 00:16:31,828 They know what they're doing. They know what they're doing.
255 00:16:31,908 00:16:33,828 I think they started to really enjoy the process. I think they started to really enjoy the process.
256 00:16:33,910 00:16:35,995 They started to enjoy each other, too. They started to enjoy each other, too.
257 00:16:36,078 00:16:37,291 They all didn't know each other, They all didn't know each other,
258 00:16:37,371 00:16:40,458 and then, suddenly, they were on a movie set in Spain, in Morocco, and then, suddenly, they were on a movie set in Spain, in Morocco,
259 00:16:40,541 00:16:43,544 and they're going out having a couple of beers together. and they're going out having a couple of beers together.
260 00:16:43,628 00:16:46,756 By the end, there was a real sense of camaraderie among the guys. By the end, there was a real sense of camaraderie among the guys.
261 00:23:30,826 00:23:33,787 It was an everyday occurrence, I think, for these units It was an everyday occurrence, I think, for these units
262 00:23:33,871 00:23:36,790 that were fanning out across Iraq looking for WMD. that were fanning out across Iraq looking for WMD.
263 00:23:36,874 00:23:39,835 They would pitch into places, They would pitch into places,
264 00:23:39,919 00:23:45,299 in this case, it's a suburb of Baghdad, but it was happening all across Iraq, in this case, it's a suburb of Baghdad, but it was happening all across Iraq,
265 00:23:45,382 00:23:47,509 and they'd basically start to dig. and they'd basically start to dig.
266 00:23:48,260 00:23:53,682 And, very often, people would come up and try and give them information. And, very often, people would come up and try and give them information.
267 00:23:54,433 00:23:57,603 They knew where stuff was buried, they knew where a meeting was going on, They knew where stuff was buried, they knew where a meeting was going on,
268 00:23:57,686 00:23:59,772 all those kinds of things. all those kinds of things.
269 00:23:59,855 00:24:03,067 And Freddy comes up and tells them that there's a meeting nearby And Freddy comes up and tells them that there's a meeting nearby
270 00:24:03,150 00:24:07,071 of high-value targets, big regime figures. of high-value targets, big regime figures.
271 00:24:08,030 00:24:11,700 And that's really what sets Miller off And that's really what sets Miller off
272 00:24:11,784 00:24:14,036 and causes Miller to come face to face with Al Rawi, and causes Miller to come face to face with Al Rawi,
273 00:24:14,578 00:24:18,624 and it also is the catalyst for the relationship and it also is the catalyst for the relationship
274 00:24:18,707 00:24:19,875 between Miller and Freddy, between Miller and Freddy,
275 00:24:19,959 00:24:21,797 and that's a very, very important relationship, and that's a very, very important relationship,
276 00:24:21,877 00:24:24,964 because Freddy, ultimately, as the story unfolds, because Freddy, ultimately, as the story unfolds,
277 00:24:25,047 00:24:28,842 starts to awaken Miller starts to awaken Miller
278 00:24:29,343 00:24:32,262 to the larger context of What's going on here. to the larger context of What's going on here.
279 00:24:32,471 00:24:36,892 I read the part of Freddy and thought he was a beautiful character I read the part of Freddy and thought he was a beautiful character
280 00:24:36,976 00:24:39,645 who I wanted to sink my teeth into. who I wanted to sink my teeth into.
281 00:24:39,728 00:24:43,440 I loved working with Khalid. I mean, he's just fantastic. I loved working with Khalid. I mean, he's just fantastic.
282 00:24:44,525 00:24:48,737 He plays Freddy, a guy who comes up to Miller He plays Freddy, a guy who comes up to Miller
283 00:24:49,822 00:24:54,284 while Miller's excavating some site that obviously doesn't have any WMD, while Miller's excavating some site that obviously doesn't have any WMD,
284 00:24:54,743 00:24:58,706 and he just really gets to the Miller character. He gets through to him. and he just really gets to the Miller character. He gets through to him.
285 00:24:58,872 00:25:02,084 Freddy is a slightly larger-than-life character. Freddy is a slightly larger-than-life character.
286 00:25:02,167 00:25:06,005 He can be funny, he's passionate, and I think a good guy. He can be funny, he's passionate, and I think a good guy.
287 00:25:06,088 00:25:07,172 He's a good person. He's a good person.
288 00:25:07,256 00:25:11,969 He's someone whose moral world you tend to trust. He's someone whose moral world you tend to trust.
289 00:26:16,658 00:26:19,456 I had a big breakthrough on the day that we were shooting the soccer field, I had a big breakthrough on the day that we were shooting the soccer field,
290 00:26:19,536 00:26:23,248 because when I go back to my men to tell them, because when I go back to my men to tell them,
291 00:26:23,332 00:26:24,461 "Look, this guy just came up," "Look, this guy just came up,"
292 00:26:24,541 00:26:27,961 "and he gave us this information, and I wanna act on it," "and he gave us this information, and I wanna act on it,"
293 00:26:28,045 00:26:32,257 Paul told one of them, Adam, who is a sniper in the National Guard in real life, Paul told one of them, Adam, who is a sniper in the National Guard in real life,
294 00:26:32,341 00:26:35,385 "he said, " Adam, when he says this, "he said, " Adam, when he says this,
295 00:26:35,469 00:26:38,430 "when he suggests that you guys go over and hit this house," "when he suggests that you guys go over and hit this house,"
296 00:26:38,514 00:26:41,809 "which is not your mission," "which is not your mission,"
297 00:26:41,892 00:26:45,562 "your mission is to stay here and dig in the soccer field," "your mission is to stay here and dig in the soccer field,"
298 00:26:46,855 00:26:49,775 "ask him, 'How can we trust this guy?" "ask him, 'How can we trust this guy?"
299 00:26:49,858 00:26:52,361 "'I mean, what if he's leading us into an ambush?" "'I mean, what if he's leading us into an ambush?"
300 00:26:52,444 00:26:54,571 Which is a very valid point. Which is a very valid point.
301 00:26:54,822 00:26:57,658 And we rehearsed it once, And we rehearsed it once,
302 00:26:57,991 00:27:01,411 just to kind of give everybody a sense of what might happen, just to kind of give everybody a sense of what might happen,
303 00:27:01,495 00:27:04,414 give the cameramen a sense of what might happen. give the cameramen a sense of what might happen.
304 00:27:04,748 00:27:09,837 Mike Dwyer just had a visceral... Had to turn away when Adam said that. Mike Dwyer just had a visceral... Had to turn away when Adam said that.
305 00:27:10,754 00:27:12,381 He literally just... He literally just...
306 00:27:12,464 00:27:18,387 It made him so angry that he was questioning my authority. It made him so angry that he was questioning my authority.
307 00:27:18,762 00:27:20,222 So, I walked over to Mike. So, I walked over to Mike.
308 00:27:20,305 00:27:22,975 No one had really seen it, I saw it out of the corner of my eye. No one had really seen it, I saw it out of the corner of my eye.
309 00:27:23,058 00:27:25,853 So, I went over to Mike and I said, "What's the deal?" So, I went over to Mike and I said, "What's the deal?"
310 00:27:25,936 00:27:28,647 And he said, "Are you... kidding me?" And he said, "Are you... kidding me?"
311 00:27:29,189 00:27:32,568 He goes, "That... insubordination? Now?" He goes, "That... insubordination? Now?"
312 00:27:33,277 00:27:36,196 He said, "Listen, if I had a problem with your leadership", He said, "Listen, if I had a problem with your leadership",
313 00:27:36,280 00:27:40,659 "you'll hear it back at the FOB. Not now. Now, we're working." "you'll hear it back at the FOB. Not now. Now, we're working."
314 00:27:40,742 00:27:46,039 "Now, this is the time when you don't tolerate that kind of insubordination." "Now, this is the time when you don't tolerate that kind of insubordination."
315 00:27:46,123 00:27:48,250 “Get your.. game face on.“ “Get your.. game face on.“
316 00:27:48,584 00:27:52,004 And I said, "Really?" And he said, "Get your... game face on." And I said, "Really?" And he said, "Get your... game face on."
317 00:27:52,087 00:27:53,630 | said, "Okay." | said, "Okay."
318 00:27:54,339 00:27:55,632 So, we did the scene, So, we did the scene,
319 00:27:55,716 00:27:59,386 and he said, "How do we know he's not leading us into an ambush?" and he said, "How do we know he's not leading us into an ambush?"
320 00:27:59,469 00:28:00,929 And I said, "We don't." And I said, "We don't."
321 00:28:01,346 00:28:05,517 And I summoned up all my inner courage, 'cause I'm looking at a real sniper, And I summoned up all my inner courage, 'cause I'm looking at a real sniper,
322 00:28:05,601 00:28:07,978 and I said, "Get your... game face on." and I said, "Get your... game face on."
323 00:35:05,770 00:35:07,567 I got a phone call from Paul in the middle of the night I got a phone call from Paul in the middle of the night
324 00:35:07,647 00:35:09,567 and he said, "Are you working?" And I said, "No." and he said, "Are you working?" And I said, "No."
325 00:35:09,649 00:35:13,361 And he said, "Do you wanna come and do a bit in my film?" And he said, "Do you wanna come and do a bit in my film?"
326 00:35:13,445 00:35:15,280 I said, "What is it?" I said, "What is it?"
327 00:35:15,363 00:35:19,451 He said, "Well, it starts in the morning. It's one of my films", He said, "Well, it starts in the morning. It's one of my films",
328 00:35:19,534 00:35:22,078 "so I don't really know quite what the character's gonna be" "so I don't really know quite what the character's gonna be"
329 00:35:22,162 00:35:23,496 "and what he's gonna do." "and what he's gonna do."
330 00:35:23,580 00:35:26,750 "I don't think we're gonna pay you very well, and you have to pack." "I don't think we're gonna pay you very well, and you have to pack."
331 00:35:26,833 00:35:28,084 And I said, "Sounds great," And I said, "Sounds great,"
332 00:35:28,168 00:35:30,799 and the next day I was here in Morocco jumping out of a helicopter. and the next day I was here in Morocco jumping out of a helicopter.
333 00:35:30,879 00:35:35,592 One of the great gifts of being surrounded by real Special Forces soldiers One of the great gifts of being surrounded by real Special Forces soldiers
334 00:35:35,675 00:35:38,136 and real ex-Marines and Rangers and real ex-Marines and Rangers
335 00:35:39,429 00:35:42,265 is that they will help me to do what Paul wants in his films, is that they will help me to do what Paul wants in his films,
336 00:35:42,349 00:35:44,976 which is to make everything look and sound absolutely real, which is to make everything look and sound absolutely real,
337 00:35:45,060 00:35:46,690 because then the drama can come to the front. because then the drama can come to the front.
338 00:35:46,770 00:35:51,816 And Special Forces soldiers are the elite. They operate in the top tier of the Army, And Special Forces soldiers are the elite. They operate in the top tier of the Army,
339 00:35:51,900 00:35:57,739 and they are meant to be the Olympic athletes of the Armed Forces. and they are meant to be the Olympic athletes of the Armed Forces.
340 00:35:58,281 00:36:02,827 And so what I have to do is listen and soak it up from them. And so what I have to do is listen and soak it up from them.
341 00:36:02,911 00:36:04,829 And one of the things that I hear And one of the things that I hear
342 00:36:04,913 00:36:08,875 is that there's a confidence and an arrogance is that there's a confidence and an arrogance
343 00:36:08,958 00:36:11,920 that the Special Forces have. They really take orders from nobody. that the Special Forces have. They really take orders from nobody.
344 00:36:12,462 00:36:15,423 And they feel, and maybe they are... And they feel, and maybe they are...
345 00:36:15,507 00:36:18,147 They feel like they are the very best in the world at what they do. They feel like they are the very best in the world at what they do.
346 00:36:18,843 00:36:22,722 We're about to all get our asses kicked by the Special Forces guys. We're about to all get our asses kicked by the Special Forces guys.
347 00:36:22,806 00:36:25,642 These guys all jump off their fancy helicopters. These guys all jump off their fancy helicopters.
348 00:36:25,725 00:36:28,978 I've got a book that Jason Isaacs, I've got a book that Jason Isaacs,
349 00:36:29,062 00:36:35,777 who plays the Task Force 221 Special Forces guy who plays the Task Force 221 Special Forces guy
350 00:36:35,860 00:36:36,903 wants to get from me. wants to get from me.
351 00:36:36,986 00:36:42,409 So, when I don't give it to him willingly, he takes matters into his own hands. So, when I don't give it to him willingly, he takes matters into his own hands.
352 00:36:42,659 00:36:44,202 Basically kicks the shit out of me. Basically kicks the shit out of me.
353 00:36:45,370 00:36:47,288 All these guys are saying what they would do All these guys are saying what they would do
354 00:36:47,372 00:36:49,666 if this really were happening. if this really were happening.
355 00:36:49,749 00:36:52,544 And so adjustments have been made to the little fight sequence And so adjustments have been made to the little fight sequence
356 00:36:52,627 00:36:55,296 to kind of allow for the reality of it. to kind of allow for the reality of it.
357 00:36:55,380 00:36:57,340 But basically, what needs to happen, story-wise, But basically, what needs to happen, story-wise,
358 00:36:57,424 00:37:01,428 is I need to be dominated, manhandled, is I need to be dominated, manhandled,
359 00:37:04,472 00:37:07,392 pretty expertly by the Special Forces guy. pretty expertly by the Special Forces guy.
360 00:37:07,767 00:37:11,229 I could bloody you, and you could come at me, I could bloody you, and you could come at me,
361 00:37:11,312 00:37:15,191 and that... I could throw you off there and go for the book. and that... I could throw you off there and go for the book.
362 00:37:15,275 00:37:16,488 So, at least I throw you in the crowd. So, at least I throw you in the crowd.
363 00:37:16,568 00:37:22,282 - So, it's not... You don't... - I wonder if it's, "Get... off me." - So, it's not... You don't... - I wonder if it's, "Get... off me."
364 00:37:22,365 00:37:25,577 And he goes, "Hey," bang! And just hits me right in the... And he goes, "Hey," bang! And just hits me right in the...
365 00:37:25,660 00:37:29,122 And blood's coming out of my nose, he's like, "Give me the... book." And blood's coming out of my nose, he's like, "Give me the... book."
366 00:44:17,572 00:44:21,826 What was interesting about Green Zone was to create the character of Brown What was interesting about Green Zone was to create the character of Brown
367 00:44:21,909 00:44:23,494 that Brendan Gleeson plays, that Brendan Gleeson plays,
368 00:44:24,245 00:44:25,955 who's a kind of... who's a kind of...
369 00:44:26,873 00:44:31,419 He's a Middle East veteran. He's been there a long time. He's a Middle East veteran. He's been there a long time.
370 00:44:31,502 00:44:33,754 He knows what goes down in that part of the world. He knows what goes down in that part of the world.
371 00:44:33,963 00:44:38,384 He's a guy who's been around in the region. He's in intelligence, He's a guy who's been around in the region. He's in intelligence,
372 00:44:38,467 00:44:41,596 and he's been there for 25 years in the region. and he's been there for 25 years in the region.
373 00:44:42,555 00:44:46,434 He knows the mind-set of the people. He knows the mind-set of the people.
374 00:44:47,018 00:44:49,812 He understands the culture and the rest of it. He understands the culture and the rest of it.
375 00:44:49,896 00:44:54,192 He's somebody who knows a little bit more than the people coming in, He's somebody who knows a little bit more than the people coming in,
376 00:44:54,275 00:44:55,985 but has not particularly been listened to. but has not particularly been listened to.
377 00:44:56,068 00:44:59,947 He's an interesting character, Brown, because he's idealistic, He's an interesting character, Brown, because he's idealistic,
378 00:45:00,198 00:45:02,783 but yet world-weary. but yet world-weary.
379 00:45:04,619 00:45:10,541 And like Miller, he has a sixth sense that something's going wrong, And like Miller, he has a sixth sense that something's going wrong,
380 00:45:10,625 00:45:13,336 but he doesn't actually know what it is. but he doesn't actually know what it is.
381 00:45:13,419 00:45:15,838 I think Brown's idea is, I think Brown's idea is,
382 00:45:15,922 00:45:19,508 "Look, the sites are not going to reveal an awful lot, "Look, the sites are not going to reveal an awful lot,
383 00:45:19,592 00:45:22,887 "because many of them have been visited already by the UN teams, "because many of them have been visited already by the UN teams,
384 00:45:22,970 00:45:25,765 "so let's go after the people." And that's his priority. "so let's go after the people." And that's his priority.
385 00:45:26,933 00:45:29,560 He figures that if you can get the people, He figures that if you can get the people,
386 00:45:29,644 00:45:33,231 then that will unlock where the weapons are. then that will unlock where the weapons are.
387 00:45:33,314 00:45:37,318 He's the character who says to Miller, "There's something going on here." He's the character who says to Miller, "There's something going on here."
388 00:45:37,568 00:45:40,071 "There's a reason why we're not finding the WMD." "There's a reason why we're not finding the WMD."
389 00:45:40,154 00:45:43,324 "There's a darker secret here," "There's a darker secret here,"
390 00:45:43,908 00:45:48,704 and propels Miller on the road towards finding the answers. and propels Miller on the road towards finding the answers.
391 00:48:16,310 00:48:19,855 There's a tenuous relationship There's a tenuous relationship
392 00:48:19,939 00:48:23,984 between Martin Brown, Brendan's character, and Poundstone. between Martin Brown, Brendan's character, and Poundstone.
393 00:48:24,110 00:48:27,029 You see their two different approaches. You see their two different approaches.
394 00:48:27,113 00:48:31,200 The CIA guy who's been there for 25, 30 years, The CIA guy who's been there for 25, 30 years,
395 00:48:31,283 00:48:35,204 he speaks Arabic, understands the culture, understands the country, he speaks Arabic, understands the culture, understands the country,
396 00:48:35,287 00:48:41,168 who is being lambasted by this DOD guy, who's saying, "You guys are dinosaurs." who is being lambasted by this DOD guy, who's saying, "You guys are dinosaurs."
397 00:48:42,545 00:48:44,925 The CIA guy's saying, "We can't trust some of this intelligence." The CIA guy's saying, "We can't trust some of this intelligence."
398 00:48:45,005 00:48:48,512 The DOD guy's saying, "That's your problem. You take too long vetting this intelligence." The DOD guy's saying, "That's your problem. You take too long vetting this intelligence."
399 00:48:48,592 00:48:52,221 And the CIA guy's saying, "Well, that's why we get it right." And the CIA guy's saying, "Well, that's why we get it right."
400 00:48:52,847 00:48:55,683 So it's this very contentious relationship between those two guys. So it's this very contentious relationship between those two guys.
401 00:48:56,183 00:48:58,519 Well, Poundstone's the bad guy. Well, Poundstone's the bad guy.
402 00:48:59,061 00:49:01,730 And I love the fact that Greg plays him. And I love the fact that Greg plays him.
403 00:49:01,814 00:49:05,776 He plays him really well, because it's not what you'd expect Greg to play. He plays him really well, because it's not what you'd expect Greg to play.
404 00:49:05,860 00:49:08,446 So, he's playing against type, and he does it well. So, he's playing against type, and he does it well.
405 00:49:08,529 00:49:12,199 He is a wonderful, incredible actor. He is a wonderful, incredible actor.
406 00:49:12,491 00:49:14,011 I think that's what he told me to say. I think that's what he told me to say.
407 00:49:14,618 00:49:16,287 No. No, actually. No. No, actually.
408 00:49:16,370 00:49:19,457 I have been a really big fan of Greg's for a very long time. I have been a really big fan of Greg's for a very long time.
409 00:49:19,540 00:49:22,626 He plays Poundstone as a bureaucrat, He plays Poundstone as a bureaucrat,
410 00:49:23,627 00:49:29,258 actually, as an idealistic man who's come to Iraq to do the right thing, actually, as an idealistic man who's come to Iraq to do the right thing,
411 00:49:31,010 00:49:33,596 but, obviously, along the way, he's cooked the books. but, obviously, along the way, he's cooked the books.
412 00:49:33,679 00:49:38,309 And the more that Miller goes down the road of asking the question, And the more that Miller goes down the road of asking the question,
413 00:49:38,392 00:49:41,145 "Well, who told us that the WMD were there?" "Well, who told us that the WMD were there?"
414 00:49:41,228 00:49:42,646 The more Poundstone's in a corner, The more Poundstone's in a corner,
415 00:49:42,730 00:49:44,982 and the more Poundstone has to lock the thing down, and the more Poundstone has to lock the thing down,
416 00:49:45,065 00:49:47,818 and that's really what drives the climax of the film. and that's really what drives the climax of the film.
417 00:49:47,943 00:49:51,780 Greg plays the guy who's been handing Lawrie Dayne her stories. Greg plays the guy who's been handing Lawrie Dayne her stories.
418 00:49:51,864 00:49:54,325 And Greg's a terrific actor, And Greg's a terrific actor,
419 00:49:54,867 00:49:57,953 and the whole plot basically centers around what he knows and the whole plot basically centers around what he knows
420 00:49:58,037 00:49:59,622 and what he's been doing. and what he's been doing.
421 00:49:59,914 00:50:04,293 Mr. Poundstone, who is probably not a villain to some people, Mr. Poundstone, who is probably not a villain to some people,
422 00:50:04,376 00:50:05,753 and is to other people... and is to other people...
423 00:50:05,836 00:50:10,090 I mean, the blacks and whites in this all turn to gray, I mean, the blacks and whites in this all turn to gray,
424 00:50:10,174 00:50:13,636 obviously, 'cause it takes place in a war zone. obviously, 'cause it takes place in a war zone.
425 00:50:13,719 00:50:18,390 But, definitely, he's been up to some troubling things. But, definitely, he's been up to some troubling things.
426 00:50:18,474 00:50:21,685 He is a believer in... You know, it's about the end game. He is a believer in... You know, it's about the end game.
427 00:50:21,769 00:50:25,773 It's not about the means of getting there, it's all about the end game. It's not about the means of getting there, it's all about the end game.
428 00:50:26,106 00:50:28,067 And subsequently, And subsequently,
429 00:50:28,943 00:50:33,072 he skirts the truth a little bit here and there to get things to happen, he skirts the truth a little bit here and there to get things to happen,
430 00:50:33,155 00:50:35,157 and that kind of sets our story into motion. and that kind of sets our story into motion.
431 00:58:43,645 00:58:46,356 Matt, yeah, his character is based on a role that I played Matt, yeah, his character is based on a role that I played
432 00:58:46,440 00:58:49,317 and the roles that the soldiers are playing here, and the roles that the soldiers are playing here,
433 00:58:49,401 00:58:52,362 modeled after the organization of my team that I had in Iraq at the time. modeled after the organization of my team that I had in Iraq at the time.
434 00:58:52,446 00:58:55,532 They were called Mobile Exploitation Teams, MET Teams. They were called Mobile Exploitation Teams, MET Teams.
435 00:58:55,615 00:58:59,161 And he, along with the other MET Team leaders, And he, along with the other MET Team leaders,
436 00:58:59,244 00:59:02,789 were basically racing to see who was gonna be the first to get on CNN were basically racing to see who was gonna be the first to get on CNN
437 00:59:02,873 00:59:05,876 holding up the proof that Saddam had these weapons. holding up the proof that Saddam had these weapons.
438 00:59:05,959 00:59:07,714 That's really what drives Miller's character, That's really what drives Miller's character,
439 00:59:07,794 00:59:10,213 because he's the guy in the story who says, because he's the guy in the story who says,
440 00:59:10,297 00:59:12,966 "Well, hang on a second, who told us they were there and why?" "Well, hang on a second, who told us they were there and why?"
441 00:59:13,050 00:59:15,093 "And how come they're not there?" "And how come they're not there?"
442 00:59:15,177 00:59:18,013 Monty told me that he knew after the first site Monty told me that he knew after the first site
443 00:59:18,096 00:59:19,476 that he wasn't going to find anything, that he wasn't going to find anything,
444 00:59:19,556 00:59:21,725 because the intel packets that he got because the intel packets that he got
445 00:59:21,808 00:59:24,269 just didn't correspond with what he was seeing on the ground. just didn't correspond with what he was seeing on the ground.
446 00:59:24,352 00:59:26,104 He said, "Something's wrong here." He said, "Something's wrong here."
447 00:59:26,188 00:59:29,775 When I arrived and I met Monty, I realized what perfect casting that was. When I arrived and I met Monty, I realized what perfect casting that was.
448 00:59:29,858 00:59:34,279 And Matt has a quality of honesty. And Matt has a quality of honesty.
449 00:59:34,362 00:59:37,574 He kind of radiates moral fiber He kind of radiates moral fiber
450 00:59:37,657 00:59:40,827 in this kind of ethical universe you feel that he inhabits. in this kind of ethical universe you feel that he inhabits.
451 00:59:40,911 00:59:42,249 And that's something that Monty has. And that's something that Monty has.
452 00:59:42,329 00:59:47,209 He radiates some sense of moral foundation. He radiates some sense of moral foundation.
453 00:59:47,834 00:59:49,756 You sense that from him, and the audience senses that from him. You sense that from him, and the audience senses that from him.
454 00:59:49,836 00:59:53,548 And he takes us into this journey, this kind of nightmare journey And he takes us into this journey, this kind of nightmare journey
455 00:59:53,632 00:59:57,094 into an almost surreal universe of Baghdad in 2003. into an almost surreal universe of Baghdad in 2003.
456 00:59:57,177 01:00:00,722 And he represents us. He arrives with high hopes, And he represents us. He arrives with high hopes,
457 01:00:00,806 01:00:05,102 and we watch that stuff turn into curiosity and anger and we watch that stuff turn into curiosity and anger
458 01:00:07,145 01:00:09,189 and a sense that he needs to do something. and a sense that he needs to do something.
459 01:00:09,523 01:00:12,234 It's like somebody pulling on a thread. It's like somebody pulling on a thread.
460 01:00:12,484 01:00:14,448 He pulls on it, and he pulls on it, and he pulls on it, He pulls on it, and he pulls on it, and he pulls on it,
461 01:00:14,528 01:00:18,657 until finally, he realizes what's going on underneath. until finally, he realizes what's going on underneath.
462 01:00:19,699 01:00:20,787 And like any great thriller, And like any great thriller,
463 01:00:20,867 01:00:24,955 that drives him on towards his date with destiny. that drives him on towards his date with destiny.
464 01:03:09,828 01:03:14,874 Lawrie Dayne is played by Amy Ryan, who's a terrific actress. Lawrie Dayne is played by Amy Ryan, who's a terrific actress.
465 01:03:14,958 01:03:18,795 She's basically the journalist who's responsible She's basically the journalist who's responsible
466 01:03:18,878 01:03:21,506 for the administration's claims for the administration's claims
467 01:03:21,589 01:03:24,092 that Saddam has weapons of mass destruction. that Saddam has weapons of mass destruction.
468 01:03:24,175 01:03:29,973 She's somebody who has had some history with Clark Poundstone. She's somebody who has had some history with Clark Poundstone.
469 01:03:31,558 01:03:34,769 In the past, they've obviously come across each other, In the past, they've obviously come across each other,
470 01:03:34,853 01:03:36,521 and he's used her effectively and he's used her effectively
471 01:03:36,604 01:03:42,485 as somebody to help get messages out to the public, as somebody to help get messages out to the public,
472 01:03:42,569 01:03:45,613 in the way that that happens in the real world, to some degree. in the way that that happens in the real world, to some degree.
473 01:03:45,697 01:03:48,325 Sources. He's a source for her. Sources. He's a source for her.
474 01:03:48,408 01:03:55,081 She's a character, too, who probably spent her entire career writing about WMD. She's a character, too, who probably spent her entire career writing about WMD.
475 01:03:55,749 01:04:00,045 And so, to find herself in this situation here in Iraq, And so, to find herself in this situation here in Iraq,
476 01:04:01,254 01:04:05,175 as much as it is meaningful to find WMD, as much as it is meaningful to find WMD,
477 01:04:05,258 01:04:08,595 it's very much what she's believed her whole career, it's very much what she's believed her whole career,
478 01:04:09,804 01:04:14,642 so it's kind of the big moment in her career, as well, so it's kind of the big moment in her career, as well,
479 01:04:16,102 01:04:18,229 to be there when they're found, if they're found. to be there when they're found, if they're found.
480 01:14:32,301 01:14:35,137 Well, I like Morocco, actually, I think it's a good place. Well, I like Morocco, actually, I think it's a good place.
481 01:14:35,221 01:14:36,889 Some people hate it. Some people hate it.
482 01:14:36,973 01:14:39,558 I think it's a great place to shoot I think it's a great place to shoot
483 01:14:40,977 01:14:43,604 because the landscape is very extreme, because the landscape is very extreme,
484 01:14:45,982 01:14:49,568 and it's a film-friendly place. You can do a lot of stuff. and it's a film-friendly place. You can do a lot of stuff.
485 01:14:49,652 01:14:53,322 You can have helicopters whizzing around and military vehicles. You can have helicopters whizzing around and military vehicles.
486 01:14:53,406 01:14:58,577 You can stage big set pieces, which is what this movie is all about. You can stage big set pieces, which is what this movie is all about.
487 01:15:01,372 01:15:05,376 It's a very sophisticated, film-friendly place. It's a very sophisticated, film-friendly place.
488 01:15:06,627 01:15:11,465 Plus, when you're in those sorts of places, there's not much else to do except work, Plus, when you're in those sorts of places, there's not much else to do except work,
489 01:15:11,549 01:15:14,260 so everybody keeps quite focused, which is good. so everybody keeps quite focused, which is good.
490 01:15:14,844 01:15:19,098 It's the sights and sounds and smells you've never really quite experienced, It's the sights and sounds and smells you've never really quite experienced,
491 01:15:19,181 01:15:22,852 but it makes you stay alert. but it makes you stay alert.
492 01:15:22,935 01:15:27,606 And I wouldn't say it's dangerous, but it's wild. And I wouldn't say it's dangerous, but it's wild.
493 01:15:28,315 01:15:32,278 It brings back, at least for me, it brings back some anxiety, It brings back, at least for me, it brings back some anxiety,
494 01:15:32,778 01:15:38,284 'cause it takes you back to when you were there. 'cause it takes you back to when you were there.
495 01:15:38,367 01:15:39,577 At least, it takes me back. At least, it takes me back.
496 01:15:39,869 01:15:42,788 And just seeing the vehicles and the gear, And just seeing the vehicles and the gear,
497 01:15:43,456 01:15:46,917 you kind of get the winds blowing up, and the dust is kicking up today, you kind of get the winds blowing up, and the dust is kicking up today,
498 01:15:47,001 01:15:50,171 so it's just like, "Oh, man, this is like Iraq." so it's just like, "Oh, man, this is like Iraq."
499 01:15:51,756 01:15:58,345 So, even though it's a film, it seems all too real in a lot of cases. So, even though it's a film, it seems all too real in a lot of cases.
500 01:15:59,221 01:16:00,389 It's pretty darn real. It's pretty darn real.
501 01:16:00,473 01:16:05,603 The actors they have playing the Iraqis, Free Iraqi soldiers, are pretty convincing. The actors they have playing the Iraqis, Free Iraqi soldiers, are pretty convincing.
502 01:16:06,062 01:16:08,731 Pretty convincing. They really... It's interesting. Pretty convincing. They really... It's interesting.
503 01:16:08,814 01:16:09,902 It's very interesting to see the dynamic. It's very interesting to see the dynamic.
504 01:16:09,982 01:16:13,277 You get a lot of the same feelings jumping out of the vehicle and moving up. You get a lot of the same feelings jumping out of the vehicle and moving up.
505 01:16:13,360 01:16:14,365 A lot of us would talk about that, A lot of us would talk about that,
506 01:16:14,445 01:16:17,073 you kind of have that same feeling, like you're back over there. you kind of have that same feeling, like you're back over there.
507 01:16:17,156 01:16:19,328 Especially the way the set is set up, and the weather and all that, Especially the way the set is set up, and the weather and all that,
508 01:16:19,408 01:16:20,659 it's pretty convincing. it's pretty convincing.
509 01:23:28,879 01:23:32,257 The great thing about working with Paul is that he'll get two cameras going at once. The great thing about working with Paul is that he'll get two cameras going at once.
510 01:23:32,341 01:23:33,842 So, he'll get one camera going, So, he'll get one camera going,
511 01:23:33,926 01:23:37,638 and the second it dumps out, he'll switch the other one on. and the second it dumps out, he'll switch the other one on.
512 01:23:37,721 01:23:41,183 Normally, you have to break every 11 minutes, Normally, you have to break every 11 minutes,
513 01:23:41,266 01:23:43,894 because you have to change a magazine and reload the film. because you have to change a magazine and reload the film.
514 01:23:43,977 01:23:47,523 These improvisations could go on for half an hour at a time. These improvisations could go on for half an hour at a time.
515 01:23:47,606 01:23:49,942 Paul's an A-list director. He directs big movies. Paul's an A-list director. He directs big movies.
516 01:23:50,025 01:23:52,986 And it's a big deal to get a job in one of his movies. And it's a big deal to get a job in one of his movies.
517 01:23:53,070 01:23:55,030 And so, if you're a seasoned actor And so, if you're a seasoned actor
518 01:23:55,113 01:23:58,242 and you're coming onto a Paul Greengrass set, and you're coming onto a Paul Greengrass set,
519 01:23:58,492 01:23:59,576 you wanna do a good job. you wanna do a good job.
520 01:23:59,660 01:24:05,874 And so to suddenly be told, "Well, don't worry about the script as you saw it," And so to suddenly be told, "Well, don't worry about the script as you saw it,"
521 01:24:05,958 01:24:10,587 I think it's a little arresting for anybody at first. I think it's a little arresting for anybody at first.
522 01:24:10,671 01:24:11,922 I know it was for me. I know it was for me.
523 01:24:12,005 01:24:15,592 I think this might be the first time I ever looked at a script on one of your films. I think this might be the first time I ever looked at a script on one of your films.
524 01:24:17,803 01:24:19,137 This is fascinating. This is fascinating.
525 01:31:32,904 01:31:35,407 One of the oddities of modern cinema One of the oddities of modern cinema
526 01:31:35,490 01:31:37,245 is the way that people always talk about directors. is the way that people always talk about directors.
527 01:31:37,325 01:31:40,370 "The director did this and the director did that," and all the rest of it. "The director did this and the director did that," and all the rest of it.
528 01:31:40,453 01:31:42,664 And I'm pretty sure And I'm pretty sure
529 01:31:43,331 01:31:48,586 that any director would say that any successful film that a director makes, that any director would say that any successful film that a director makes,
530 01:31:49,963 01:31:53,675 a huge amount of the credit lies with the first assistant director, a huge amount of the credit lies with the first assistant director,
531 01:31:53,758 01:31:55,552 whoever that person is. whoever that person is.
532 01:31:55,885 01:31:57,429 And in my case, that's Chris Carreras, And in my case, that's Chris Carreras,
533 01:31:57,804 01:32:01,516 who's, certainly on this side of the water, a legend. who's, certainly on this side of the water, a legend.
534 01:32:01,599 01:32:05,186 The actor and the director just stop everything and defer to the AD. The actor and the director just stop everything and defer to the AD.
535 01:32:05,270 01:32:06,900 When there's a production decision to be made, When there's a production decision to be made,
536 01:32:06,980 01:32:09,024 the first AD is your last line of defense. the first AD is your last line of defense.
537 01:32:09,107 01:32:12,485 He would've been a fantastic military officer. He would've been a fantastic military officer.
538 01:32:12,569 01:32:13,903 In fact, if ever I went to war, In fact, if ever I went to war,
539 01:32:13,987 01:32:17,699 I would definitely want Chris Carreras next to me in a trench, that's for sure. I would definitely want Chris Carreras next to me in a trench, that's for sure.
540 01:32:17,782 01:32:20,368 All right, now, when we pull away, guys, All right, now, when we pull away, guys,
541 01:32:20,452 01:32:24,039 I want everybody back behind that yellow barrier. I want everybody back behind that yellow barrier.
542 01:32:24,122 01:32:26,624 Nobody comes out until we're back. Nobody comes out until we're back.
543 01:32:27,250 01:32:28,668 Chris is great. Chris is great. Chris is great. Chris is great.
544 01:32:28,752 01:32:31,046 I mean, I've been really lucky I mean, I've been really lucky
545 01:32:31,129 01:32:33,882 with the directors that I've been able to work with. with the directors that I've been able to work with.
546 01:32:33,965 01:32:37,427 By extension, when you work with great directors, By extension, when you work with great directors,
547 01:32:37,510 01:32:39,554 you're always working with great firsts. you're always working with great firsts.
548 01:32:39,637 01:32:43,683 And Chris is just as good as anyone I've ever seen, And Chris is just as good as anyone I've ever seen,
549 01:32:43,767 01:32:45,685 and he's such a wonderful guy to boot. and he's such a wonderful guy to boot.
550 01:32:45,977 01:32:48,772 - CO'd him. - Yeah, we call him Colonel Carreras. - CO'd him. - Yeah, we call him Colonel Carreras.
551 01:32:49,314 01:32:50,899 But he's good. He's good people. But he's good. He's good people.
552 01:32:50,982 01:32:55,570 He has the ability to drive a big film He has the ability to drive a big film
553 01:32:56,488 01:33:00,241 with all its immense logistical demands, with all its immense logistical demands,
554 01:33:00,325 01:33:03,912 and do it with a human touch, and do it with a human touch,
555 01:33:04,996 01:33:07,165 without shouting and screaming at people, without shouting and screaming at people,
556 01:33:07,248 01:33:12,003 and yet with the most meticulous attention to every single detail, and yet with the most meticulous attention to every single detail,
557 01:33:12,087 01:33:14,964 so that, every hour, you're moving forward, so that, every hour, you're moving forward,
558 01:33:15,048 01:33:17,967 even in the midst of what seems like utter chaos, even in the midst of what seems like utter chaos,
559 01:33:18,051 01:33:24,057 and, at the same time, managing everything on set. and, at the same time, managing everything on set.
560 01:33:24,599 01:33:26,935 The huge logistical demands, The huge logistical demands,
561 01:33:27,018 01:33:29,270 the crew of several hundred people, in this case, the crew of several hundred people, in this case,
562 01:33:29,354 01:33:31,481 hundreds and hundreds of extras and soldiers hundreds and hundreds of extras and soldiers
563 01:33:31,564 01:33:35,944 and weapons and special effects and helicopters. and weapons and special effects and helicopters.
564 01:33:36,027 01:33:37,407 I mean, it's a wonder to behold, really. I mean, it's a wonder to behold, really.
565 01:33:37,487 01:33:41,950 It's not surprising that the soldiers really had a fondness for him. It's not surprising that the soldiers really had a fondness for him.
566 01:33:42,200 01:33:44,748 I mean, after he's done talking, you know exactly what you need to do. I mean, after he's done talking, you know exactly what you need to do.
567 01:33:44,828 01:33:47,080 So, he's real good at setting everything up. So, he's real good at setting everything up.
568 01:33:47,664 01:33:49,749 He never raises his voice. He never raises his voice.
569 01:33:50,416 01:33:51,793 Never, never raises his voice. Never, never raises his voice.
570 01:33:51,876 01:33:56,464 Nothing shy of respect that comes out of this man. Seriously. Nothing shy of respect that comes out of this man. Seriously.
571 01:33:56,631 01:33:58,133 He never curses, He never curses,
572 01:33:58,216 01:34:01,636 he holds you responsible for your job, and if you're not on it, he holds you responsible for your job, and if you're not on it,
573 01:34:01,719 01:34:05,431 he shoots you this steel-coated look, it says it all. he shoots you this steel-coated look, it says it all.
574 01:34:05,515 01:34:08,313 And people start moving like they've got firecrackers under their feet. And people start moving like they've got firecrackers under their feet.
575 01:34:08,393 01:34:12,564 But I think the other thing, too, is that his direction is so clear and concise But I think the other thing, too, is that his direction is so clear and concise
576 01:34:12,647 01:34:14,566 that not many people mess up. that not many people mess up.
577 01:34:14,649 01:34:16,067 He's both ends of the spectrum, He's both ends of the spectrum,
578 01:34:16,151 01:34:18,695 as far as, when he talks, people jump and people move as far as, when he talks, people jump and people move
579 01:34:18,778 01:34:21,322 and they know he means business. Then, on the other side of it, and they know he means business. Then, on the other side of it,
580 01:34:21,406 01:34:23,536 he's remembering birthdays and he's having people sing, he's remembering birthdays and he's having people sing,
581 01:34:23,616 01:34:26,870 and he's got the kids out and he's making jokes and... and he's got the kids out and he's making jokes and...
582 01:34:26,953 01:34:30,456 He's both ends of the spectrum and everything good in between. He's both ends of the spectrum and everything good in between.
583 01:34:30,540 01:34:33,084 When I win my Oscar, I'm gonna thank him first. When I win my Oscar, I'm gonna thank him first.
584 01:34:33,960 01:34:37,088 To be a first AD on a big movie, when there's action involved... To be a first AD on a big movie, when there's action involved...
585 01:34:37,172 01:34:41,259 You couldn't make films without a fantastic first AD. You couldn't make films without a fantastic first AD.
586 01:34:41,342 01:34:45,597 And he's one of the world's great, great first ADS. And he's one of the world's great, great first ADS.
587 01:34:45,972 01:34:48,141 There would've been no Bourne Ultimatum without him, There would've been no Bourne Ultimatum without him,
588 01:34:48,224 01:34:51,561 there would've been no United 93. I mean, he's just... there would've been no United 93. I mean, he's just...
589 01:34:51,644 01:34:54,147 For me, he's irreplaceable. For me, he's irreplaceable.
590 01:34:54,898 01:34:56,733 Come here, Chris. Come here, Chris.
591 01:34:56,816 01:34:58,318 Come on, Chris. Come on, Chris.
592 01:34:58,401 01:35:00,778 - I was just talking about you. - Come on, Chris. - I was just talking about you. - Come on, Chris.
593 01:35:03,156 01:35:05,408 This is not an interview, Chris. This is not an interview, Chris.
594 01:35:05,783 01:35:10,163 When you think of the logistical exercise of getting three, four hundred people here, When you think of the logistical exercise of getting three, four hundred people here,
595 01:35:10,246 01:35:14,542 moving from base, two or three miles away to the set, moving from base, two or three miles away to the set,
596 01:35:14,626 01:35:19,547 actors to be got through make-up, costume, complicated scenes, stunts, actors to be got through make-up, costume, complicated scenes, stunts,
597 01:35:19,631 01:35:23,509 helicopters, fights, helicopters, fights,
598 01:35:23,593 01:35:26,721 and it all flows, ultimately, through that one guy. and it all flows, ultimately, through that one guy.
599 01:35:28,097 01:35:30,475 We couldn't forget about the big dog. We couldn't forget about the big dog.
600 01:35:34,479 01:35:37,815 We couldn't forget about the big dog. Paul's got all the ideas. We couldn't forget about the big dog. Paul's got all the ideas.
601 01:35:38,358 01:35:41,194 Paul's got all the ideas, but Chris is the man that makes it happen, Paul's got all the ideas, but Chris is the man that makes it happen,
602 01:35:41,277 01:35:43,613 so we wanted to make sure we thank him for it. so we wanted to make sure we thank him for it.
603 01:35:43,696 01:35:47,033 It says, "To Chris Carreras, the top dog, for all the patience and direction." It says, "To Chris Carreras, the top dog, for all the patience and direction."
604 01:35:47,116 01:35:48,618 "Thanks for everything." "Thanks for everything."
605 01:35:48,701 01:35:51,621 "The men and women of the bases of Mildenhall and Lakenheath." "The men and women of the bases of Mildenhall and Lakenheath."
606 01:35:57,377 01:35:58,878 Go Chris! Go Chris!
607 01:36:05,260 01:36:08,179 Well, all I can say is, "Lunch." Thank you. Well, all I can say is, "Lunch." Thank you.
608 01:42:45,117 01:42:48,329 The short amount of time that I've been with these guys, The short amount of time that I've been with these guys,
609 01:42:48,412 01:42:50,539 it's reinforced what I've always believed. it's reinforced what I've always believed.
610 01:42:50,623 01:42:53,000 I joined the Army for all the right reasons, I joined the Army for all the right reasons,
611 01:42:53,084 01:42:56,087 but what I miss the most about it is the camaraderie but what I miss the most about it is the camaraderie
612 01:42:56,170 01:42:58,756 and the bond that you have with the guys you're with. and the bond that you have with the guys you're with.
613 01:42:58,839 01:43:03,678 Because once you get past the bureaucrats and the policies that put you there, Because once you get past the bureaucrats and the policies that put you there,
614 01:43:03,761 01:43:07,765 the war really becomes your survival and that of your friends. the war really becomes your survival and that of your friends.
615 01:43:08,182 01:43:12,853 It is indeed the man to the right, the man to the left, front and back. It is indeed the man to the right, the man to the left, front and back.
616 01:43:13,479 01:43:15,314 You fight for them. You fight for them.
617 01:43:15,898 01:43:18,109 Because the ultimate goal, Because the ultimate goal,
618 01:43:19,443 01:43:21,862 at least for me, was to survive, at least for me, was to survive,
619 01:43:22,947 01:43:24,949 and then just try to figure out the rest later. and then just try to figure out the rest later.
620 01:43:25,199 01:43:29,995 We're a group of guys from all sorts of backgrounds We're a group of guys from all sorts of backgrounds
621 01:43:30,162 01:43:31,247 and political beliefs, and political beliefs,
622 01:43:31,330 01:43:35,209 and here we are, thrust into a unit. and here we are, thrust into a unit.
623 01:43:35,793 01:43:38,462 And we're almost like family, And we're almost like family,
624 01:43:38,546 01:43:42,091 because when you're born, you don't ask for the family you get, because when you're born, you don't ask for the family you get,
625 01:43:42,174 01:43:45,469 you just kind of get the family you're born into, you just kind of get the family you're born into,
626 01:43:45,553 01:43:47,141 and it's the same thing with the military. and it's the same thing with the military.
627 01:43:47,221 01:43:50,141 You don't ask to go to a particular unit You don't ask to go to a particular unit
628 01:43:50,224 01:43:52,351 and ask for particular people to be around you, and ask for particular people to be around you,
629 01:43:52,435 01:43:55,646 you're just here, and you have to depend on these people. you're just here, and you have to depend on these people.
630 01:43:55,730 01:43:58,774 We have a gentleman, Nicoye Banks, who's an actor, We have a gentleman, Nicoye Banks, who's an actor,
631 01:43:58,858 01:44:04,238 but he has come into this mode of the military way of life, but he has come into this mode of the military way of life,
632 01:44:04,321 01:44:06,657 and he has meshed pretty well with everybody. and he has meshed pretty well with everybody.
633 01:44:06,741 01:44:12,496 So, that dynamic is awesome, So, that dynamic is awesome,
634 01:44:13,038 01:44:15,291 because you can take people from all walks of life, because you can take people from all walks of life,
635 01:44:15,374 01:44:19,086 and here we are, to come together as a unit and here we are, to come together as a unit
636 01:44:19,170 01:44:22,423 and be able to portray this unit on film. and be able to portray this unit on film.
637 01:44:22,673 01:44:24,550 I think we'll do a good job at that. I think we'll do a good job at that.
638 01:44:24,675 01:44:29,305 Me, I'm the only one that's not a soldier, and they've taken me in as one of them. Me, I'm the only one that's not a soldier, and they've taken me in as one of them.
639 01:44:29,388 01:44:34,101 And they haven't treated me any other way but a soldier who's sewed in the war. And they haven't treated me any other way but a soldier who's sewed in the war.
640 01:44:34,769 01:44:37,146 I don't know if they just lucked out on the way they casted I don't know if they just lucked out on the way they casted
641 01:44:37,229 01:44:38,651 or how they worked this whole thing out, or how they worked this whole thing out,
642 01:44:38,731 01:44:41,817 but everybody we have comes from different branches of the service, but everybody we have comes from different branches of the service,
643 01:44:41,901 01:44:44,737 and Nicoye is an actor, and he fit right in with our group. and Nicoye is an actor, and he fit right in with our group.
644 01:44:44,820 01:44:48,449 Just like a bunch of soldiers who met up for the first time somewhere. Just like a bunch of soldiers who met up for the first time somewhere.
645 01:44:48,532 01:44:50,788 It's interesting to see everybody come together so quickly. It's interesting to see everybody come together so quickly.
646 01:44:50,868 01:44:52,661 It's just like being in a platoon. It's just like being in a platoon.
647 01:44:52,912 01:44:54,789 I have a lot of respect for these men, I have a lot of respect for these men,
648 01:44:54,872 01:44:57,625 so I was humbled. I still am. so I was humbled. I still am.
649 01:44:57,708 01:45:01,921 But humbled, and gave them respect for what they've done for the country, But humbled, and gave them respect for what they've done for the country,
650 01:45:02,004 01:45:03,756 for me and my family. for me and my family.
651 01:45:03,839 01:45:05,386 But now that I've gotten to know these men, But now that I've gotten to know these men,
652 01:45:05,466 01:45:09,053 I mean, it's written in stone, as far as I'm concerned. I mean, it's written in stone, as far as I'm concerned.
653 01:45:09,303 01:45:11,388 In addition to that, they're just great. In addition to that, they're just great.
654 01:45:11,472 01:45:14,809 They're just cool guys, They're just cool guys,
655 01:45:14,892 01:45:17,770 and guys we're all really proud to have around and guys we're all really proud to have around
656 01:45:17,853 01:45:19,396 and helping us on the movie. and helping us on the movie.
657 01:45:19,980 01:45:22,358 I think the most important part, at least for this film, I think the most important part, at least for this film,
658 01:45:22,441 01:45:24,860 is to honor the memory, is to honor the memory,
659 01:45:27,947 01:45:30,908 honor the memory of folks who aren't with us anymore. honor the memory of folks who aren't with us anymore.
660 01:45:31,158 01:45:32,952 I love that. I do. I really do. I love that. I do. I really do.
661 01:45:33,035 01:45:36,288 I feel like my family has gotten pretty big. I feel like my family has gotten pretty big.
662 01:45:36,831 01:45:39,291 I know a lot of people that I would consider friends here. I know a lot of people that I would consider friends here.
663 01:45:39,750 01:45:41,043 These people are pretty amazing. These people are pretty amazing.
664 01:45:41,126 01:45:42,837 - Take care. - Yeah. You, too. - Take care. - Yeah. You, too.
665 01:45:42,920 01:45:45,089 - It's been a pleasure. - Thank you. - It's been a pleasure. - Thank you.
666 01:45:45,172 01:45:46,761 I don't know, man. This is gut-wrenching. I don't know, man. This is gut-wrenching.
667 01:45:46,841 01:45:51,846 It's been four months of just the best time of my life. It's been four months of just the best time of my life.
668 01:45:51,929 01:45:54,974 I mean, everybody that we've met on the whole thing has been a blast, I mean, everybody that we've met on the whole thing has been a blast,
669 01:45:55,057 01:45:57,935 and been friendly from the get-go. and been friendly from the get-go.
670 01:45:59,728 01:46:01,981 In a lot of ways, a lot like the military. In a lot of ways, a lot like the military.
671 01:46:02,064 01:46:03,569 You go places, you get close with guys, You go places, you get close with guys,
672 01:46:03,649 01:46:06,610 and then you go your separate ways afterward. And it's never easy. and then you go your separate ways afterward. And it's never easy.
673 01:46:07,027 01:46:10,739 And this one, I don't know, for some reason, it's really tough. And this one, I don't know, for some reason, it's really tough.
674 01:46:10,823 01:46:13,659 So... Yeah, okay. So... Yeah, okay.
675 01:46:14,493 01:46:16,537 I'll talk to you later. I'll talk to you later.