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1 00:00:01,436 00:00:03,568 Previously on "Clarice"... Previously on "Clarice"...
2 00:00:03,612 00:00:04,700 Two dead women floated down the Anacostia River. Two dead women floated down the Anacostia River.
3 00:00:04,743 00:00:06,310 Somebody sliced them to ribbons. Somebody sliced them to ribbons.
4 00:00:06,354 00:00:08,051 Stab wounds. Bite marks. Stab wounds. Bite marks.
5 00:00:08,095 00:00:09,792 Looks like a serial guy to me. Looks like a serial guy to me.
6 00:00:09,835 00:00:11,663 Sir, that man is a professional. Sir, that man is a professional.
7 00:00:11,707 00:00:14,057 He was paid to clean up after some kind of clinical trial. He was paid to clean up after some kind of clinical trial.
8 00:00:14,101 00:00:15,537 Those women were whistleblowers. Those women were whistleblowers.
9 00:00:15,580 00:00:17,626 You will go to the press, and you will tell them You will go to the press, and you will tell them
10 00:00:17,669 00:00:19,802 that these murders were the work of a serial killer. that these murders were the work of a serial killer.
11 00:00:19,845 00:00:22,500 Thanks to the ViCAP Task Force, we got the guy. Thanks to the ViCAP Task Force, we got the guy.
12 00:00:22,544 00:00:26,243 And they were not random victims of a serial killer. And they were not random victims of a serial killer.
13 00:00:26,287 00:00:28,158 They died trying to tell a story. They died trying to tell a story.
14 00:00:28,202 00:00:30,726 A story that isn't over. A story that isn't over.
15 00:00:40,779 00:00:44,870 Twizzlers and Diet Coke are food groups now? Twizzlers and Diet Coke are food groups now?
16 00:00:44,914 00:00:46,176 Oh, I see. Oh, I see.
17 00:00:46,220 00:00:48,483 We're starting the day cleaning a deadly weapon. We're starting the day cleaning a deadly weapon.
18 00:00:48,526 00:00:50,224 Okay. Okay.
19 00:00:50,267 00:00:52,617 Enough of that. Enough of that.
20 00:00:52,661 00:00:54,489 They're gonna make you apologize. They're gonna make you apologize.
21 00:00:54,532 00:00:55,664 You going to apologize? You going to apologize?
22 00:00:55,707 00:00:57,013 This is not a serial killer. This is not a serial killer.
23 00:00:57,057 00:00:58,580 It's a series of killings. It's a series of killings.
24 00:00:58,623 00:01:00,973 Krendler issued a statement that I spoke prematurely, Krendler issued a statement that I spoke prematurely,
25 00:01:01,017 00:01:03,367 and that all the evidence I found was inconclusive. and that all the evidence I found was inconclusive.
26 00:01:03,411 00:01:04,760 He has to salvage an investigation He has to salvage an investigation
27 00:01:04,803 00:01:06,457 that you just kicked into the toilet that you just kicked into the toilet
28 00:01:06,501 00:01:08,024 by letting the bad guys know we're onto them. by letting the bad guys know we're onto them.
29 00:01:08,068 00:01:09,982 Someone had to speak up for those families. Someone had to speak up for those families.
30 00:01:10,026 00:01:11,114 And you know better. And you know better.
31 00:01:11,158 00:01:12,376 I know! I know!
32 00:01:16,902 00:01:18,382 I know. I know.
33 00:01:18,426 00:01:21,690 I lost control. I lost control.
34 00:01:21,733 00:01:23,605 I shouldn't have said it that way. I shouldn't have said it that way.
35 00:01:23,648 00:01:25,128 Coulda, woulda, shoulda. Coulda, woulda, shoulda.
36 00:01:25,172 00:01:26,434 You also shot a guy yesterday. You also shot a guy yesterday.
37 00:01:26,477 00:01:28,000 You haven't done that since Bill. You haven't done that since Bill.
38 00:01:28,044 00:01:30,960 Think that might have something to do with it? Think that might have something to do with it?
39 00:01:31,003 00:01:32,004 Maybe. Maybe.
40 00:01:32,048 00:01:34,006 I don't know, Ardelia. I don't know, Ardelia.
41 00:01:34,050 00:01:36,661 Maybe I should just go back to the BSU lab. Maybe I should just go back to the BSU lab.
42 00:01:36,705 00:01:37,575 Good. Good.
43 00:01:37,619 00:01:38,924 Hide like a bridge troll. Hide like a bridge troll.
44 00:01:38,968 00:01:42,058 Your best is in the field. Your best is in the field.
45 00:01:42,102 00:01:43,103 You know that. You know that.
46 00:01:43,146 00:01:45,453 But here's the thing. But here's the thing.
47 00:01:45,496 00:01:47,019 Going rogue like that Going rogue like that
48 00:01:47,063 00:01:49,718 sends your team the message that you don't trust them. sends your team the message that you don't trust them.
49 00:01:49,761 00:01:52,373 That's no way for anyone to survive out there. That's no way for anyone to survive out there.
50 00:01:53,548 00:01:54,766 I know. You know. I know. You know.
51 00:01:54,810 00:01:57,378 You know. You know.
52 00:01:59,641 00:02:01,338 I better know you if you calling this early. I better know you if you calling this early.
53 00:02:01,382 00:02:02,687 Starling there? Oh. Starling there? Oh.
54 00:02:02,731 00:02:05,777 - We need her here ASAP. - Yes. - We need her here ASAP. - Yes.
55 00:02:08,737 00:02:10,652 Starling. Starling.
56 00:02:18,007 00:02:19,922 A siege is under way in Eastern Tennessee. A siege is under way in Eastern Tennessee.
57 00:02:19,965 00:02:21,750 It began early this morning when an ATF agent... It began early this morning when an ATF agent...
58 00:02:21,793 00:02:23,491 ...when an ATF agent was shot and wounded ...when an ATF agent was shot and wounded
59 00:02:23,534 00:02:24,883 by a fringe militia group by a fringe militia group
60 00:02:24,927 00:02:26,842 who call themselves The Statesmen. who call themselves The Statesmen.
61 00:02:26,885 00:02:28,931 The agent is being treated at a local hospital The agent is being treated at a local hospital
62 00:02:28,974 00:02:31,063 and is expected to make a full recovery. and is expected to make a full recovery.
63 00:02:31,107 00:02:32,761 The incident began... The incident began The incident began... The incident began
64 00:02:32,804 00:02:34,632 when the agent was prevented from serving a warrant. when the agent was prevented from serving a warrant.
65 00:02:34,676 00:02:36,417 The leader of the group, Lucas Novak, The leader of the group, Lucas Novak,
66 00:02:36,460 00:02:37,853 has issued a statement has issued a statement
67 00:02:37,896 00:02:39,463 that he will not allow the federal government... that he will not allow the federal government...
68 00:02:39,507 00:02:41,073 So, how long has it been? So, how long has it been?
69 00:02:41,117 00:02:44,207 When's the last time you went back to "Appalaysha"? When's the last time you went back to "Appalaysha"?
70 00:02:44,251 00:02:47,384 Appalachia. Appalachia.
71 00:02:47,428 00:02:49,081 It's been years. It's been years.
72 00:02:49,125 00:02:50,648 A lot of old ghosts. A lot of old ghosts.
73 00:03:05,663 00:03:09,406 Lucas Novak, standard-issue country gentleman, Lucas Novak, standard-issue country gentleman,
74 00:03:09,450 00:03:11,191 described as "charismatic." described as "charismatic."
75 00:03:11,234 00:03:14,585 Novak leads a group that calls themselves The Statesmen. Novak leads a group that calls themselves The Statesmen.
76 00:03:14,629 00:03:17,240 Started off as a hillbilly rehab clinic Started off as a hillbilly rehab clinic
77 00:03:17,284 00:03:18,502 and somehow turned into and somehow turned into
78 00:03:18,546 00:03:20,809 a heavily armed secessionist militia a heavily armed secessionist militia
79 00:03:20,852 00:03:23,681 who want to form their own state within Tennessee. who want to form their own state within Tennessee.
80 00:03:36,303 00:03:38,566 The Statesmen shot an ATF agent The Statesmen shot an ATF agent
81 00:03:38,609 00:03:40,132 serving a search warrant. serving a search warrant.
82 00:03:40,176 00:03:41,438 He's in stable condition, He's in stable condition,
83 00:03:41,482 00:03:44,136 but now we're in the middle of a standoff. but now we're in the middle of a standoff.
84 00:03:44,180 00:03:47,444 So, let me address the elephant in the room. So, let me address the elephant in the room.
85 00:03:47,488 00:03:50,404 This won't be another Waco. This won't be another Waco.
86 00:03:50,447 00:03:51,666 Those of us who were there know Those of us who were there know
87 00:03:51,709 00:03:55,322 it was a cluster seven different ways. it was a cluster seven different ways.
88 00:03:55,365 00:03:57,498 This is Tennessee. This is Tennessee.
89 00:03:57,541 00:04:01,110 It's the AG's home state, and she sent ViCAP. It's the AG's home state, and she sent ViCAP.
90 00:04:01,153 00:04:04,548 We want the weapons, we want the shooter, We want the weapons, we want the shooter,
91 00:04:04,592 00:04:06,202 we want to make it home. we want to make it home.
92 00:04:06,246 00:04:07,290 Good? Good?
93 00:04:07,334 00:04:09,205 Good. Good. Good. Good.
94 00:04:17,344 00:04:20,129 Special Agent Paul Krendler. Special Agent Paul Krendler.
95 00:04:20,172 00:04:21,173 Sheriff Tucker Rowan. Sheriff Tucker Rowan.
96 00:04:21,217 00:04:22,653 Pleased to have you on the scene. Pleased to have you on the scene.
97 00:04:22,697 00:04:24,612 We know there are women inside. Any kids? We know there are women inside. Any kids?
98 00:04:24,655 00:04:26,004 No reports of children among them. No reports of children among them.
99 00:04:26,048 00:04:27,441 And no word from anyone inside? And no word from anyone inside?
100 00:04:27,484 00:04:29,617 They don't acknowledge federal authority. They don't acknowledge federal authority.
101 00:04:29,660 00:04:31,836 That's why they wouldn't let ATF serve the warrant. That's why they wouldn't let ATF serve the warrant.
102 00:04:31,880 00:04:33,447 They're not gonna give us the shooter, They're not gonna give us the shooter,
103 00:04:33,490 00:04:35,318 and they want the feds off the property. and they want the feds off the property.
104 00:04:35,362 00:04:36,493 What were you guys looking for? What were you guys looking for?
105 00:04:36,537 00:04:37,799 Our intel says they're strapped... Our intel says they're strapped...
106 00:04:37,842 00:04:39,844 modified rifles, black market stuff. modified rifles, black market stuff.
107 00:04:39,888 00:04:41,324 So we'd better use caution, So we'd better use caution,
108 00:04:41,368 00:04:43,892 'cause we both know how fast this can go south. 'cause we both know how fast this can go south.
109 00:04:43,935 00:04:46,329 Let's get that PA system going. You got it. Let's get that PA system going. You got it.
110 00:04:46,373 00:04:48,288 Need to talk to the man inside. Need to talk to the man inside.
111 00:04:48,331 00:04:49,985 Starling. Starling.
112 00:04:50,028 00:04:52,030 A word. A word.
113 00:04:55,643 00:04:57,079 Agent Krendler, I want to... No. Agent Krendler, I want to... No.
114 00:04:57,122 00:04:58,515 I talk, you listen. I talk, you listen.
115 00:04:58,559 00:05:00,300 I want to be clear... When we get back to Washington, I want to be clear... When we get back to Washington,
116 00:05:00,343 00:05:05,479 I'm gonna formally request your transfer off of ViCAP. I'm gonna formally request your transfer off of ViCAP.
117 00:05:05,522 00:05:07,263 Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
118 00:05:07,307 00:05:08,525 Clarke. Yeah. Clarke. Yeah.
119 00:05:08,569 00:05:10,048 You're on Starling. You're on Starling.
120 00:05:10,092 00:05:12,312 Have her set up cell towers. Keep her away from the press. Have her set up cell towers. Keep her away from the press.
121 00:05:12,355 00:05:14,749 You went wildly off-script at the press conference. You went wildly off-script at the press conference.
122 00:05:14,792 00:05:16,098 The only reason you're here The only reason you're here
123 00:05:16,141 00:05:17,708 is because I don't trust you out of my sight. is because I don't trust you out of my sight.
124 00:05:17,752 00:05:18,927 If you can't follow orders, If you can't follow orders,
125 00:05:18,970 00:05:21,364 you're gonna get somebody killed today. you're gonna get somebody killed today.
126 00:05:55,355 00:05:57,269 Got it. Got it.
127 00:05:57,313 00:05:59,141 ATF's pretty hopped up. ATF's pretty hopped up.
128 00:05:59,184 00:06:02,013 I understand. One of theirs is down. I understand. One of theirs is down.
129 00:06:02,057 00:06:04,451 I've been at this 30 years. I've been at this 30 years.
130 00:06:04,494 00:06:05,843 And now you got this. And now you got this.
131 00:06:05,887 00:06:07,454 Met Novak a dozen times. Met Novak a dozen times.
132 00:06:07,497 00:06:10,979 Seemed smart, decent, really wanted to help people. Seemed smart, decent, really wanted to help people.
133 00:06:11,022 00:06:14,591 Eccentric, sure, but we got a lot of eccentrics. Eccentric, sure, but we got a lot of eccentrics.
134 00:06:15,200 00:06:18,160 Think he'd light up that place, risk everyone inside? Think he'd light up that place, risk everyone inside?
135 00:06:18,203 00:06:19,553 I don't know. I don't know.
136 00:06:19,596 00:06:22,773 But why does a man keep that many automatic weapons? But why does a man keep that many automatic weapons?
137 00:06:29,214 00:06:32,435 10 steps forward, you're in speaker range. 10 steps forward, you're in speaker range.
138 00:06:32,479 00:06:33,915 Thanks. Thanks.
139 00:06:35,786 00:06:37,222 What? What?
140 00:06:37,266 00:06:40,269 Did you have a criminal profiler at Waco for Koresh? Did you have a criminal profiler at Waco for Koresh?
141 00:06:42,010 00:06:43,838 You want to tell me it would've worked out differently You want to tell me it would've worked out differently
142 00:06:43,881 00:06:45,448 if we just maybe listened to the shrink? if we just maybe listened to the shrink?
143 00:06:45,492 00:06:46,841 I wasn't there. I wouldn't say that. I wasn't there. I wouldn't say that.
144 00:06:46,884 00:06:48,451 Good. I was gonna say Good. I was gonna say
145 00:06:48,495 00:06:52,237 that behavioral science can be used for your offense, too. that behavioral science can be used for your offense, too.
146 00:06:52,281 00:06:54,501 Anyone who lives like this, the... Delusional crap? Anyone who lives like this, the... Delusional crap?
147 00:06:54,544 00:06:57,199 The mental effort it takes to hold it all together. The mental effort it takes to hold it all together.
148 00:06:57,242 00:06:58,461 It's a lot to maintain. It's a lot to maintain.
149 00:06:58,505 00:07:01,072 Spinning plates. A lot of pressure. Spinning plates. A lot of pressure.
150 00:07:02,726 00:07:04,467 You shouldn't be here, Starling. You shouldn't be here, Starling.
151 00:07:04,511 00:07:06,469 Well, Krendler's gonna transfer me. Well, Krendler's gonna transfer me.
152 00:07:06,513 00:07:07,862 Shouldn't be at the Bureau. Shouldn't be at the Bureau.
153 00:07:07,905 00:07:10,386 I... Look, I get it. I... Look, I get it.
154 00:07:10,430 00:07:13,520 I'm just ViCAP's resident knuckle dragger. I'm just ViCAP's resident knuckle dragger.
155 00:07:13,563 00:07:16,348 But you broke ranks at the press conference. But you broke ranks at the press conference.
156 00:07:16,392 00:07:19,395 Maybe you regret it maybe not. Maybe you regret it maybe not.
157 00:07:19,439 00:07:21,876 But something's eating you, and that's true wherever you go. But something's eating you, and that's true wherever you go.
158 00:07:21,919 00:07:23,573 And if you stay in the field, And if you stay in the field,
159 00:07:23,617 00:07:26,576 Krendler's right... we're all at risk. Krendler's right... we're all at risk.
160 00:07:26,620 00:07:28,273 Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
161 00:07:28,317 00:07:30,493 You tell me you sleep eight hours a night yourself, You tell me you sleep eight hours a night yourself,
162 00:07:30,537 00:07:33,453 and I'll hand in my credentials right now. and I'll hand in my credentials right now.
163 00:07:39,763 00:07:43,593 Wire cutter ain't worth a damn. Wire cutter ain't worth a damn.
164 00:07:43,637 00:07:45,552 I'll get you a new pair. I'll get you a new pair.
165 00:07:45,595 00:07:48,772 My toolbox is in the tent. My toolbox is in the tent.
166 00:08:02,786 00:08:05,267 Reesey! Reesey!
167 00:08:06,877 00:08:08,575 Reesey! Reesey!
168 00:08:08,618 00:08:10,751 The police are here! The police are here!
169 00:08:10,794 00:08:13,101 Something happened to Daddy. Something happened to Daddy.
170 00:08:13,144 00:08:15,843 We got to get home. We got to get home.
171 00:08:20,325 00:08:23,807 Wait! Please! Wait! Please!
172 00:08:23,851 00:08:26,331 Are you from inside? Are you from inside?
173 00:08:26,375 00:08:28,856 My name's Clarice Starling, FBI. My name's Clarice Starling, FBI.
174 00:08:28,899 00:08:30,771 What's your name? What's your name?
175 00:08:30,814 00:08:33,469 Wait! Wait!
176 00:08:36,994 00:08:38,648 Was that a kid? Was that a kid?
177 00:08:38,692 00:08:41,477 Heat-mapping says 20 people inside, armed to the teeth. Heat-mapping says 20 people inside, armed to the teeth.
178 00:08:41,521 00:08:43,044 The blueprints on file don't show The blueprints on file don't show
179 00:08:43,087 00:08:44,393 anywhere near this square footage. anywhere near this square footage.
180 00:08:44,436 00:08:46,308 House has been added onto over the years. House has been added onto over the years.
181 00:08:46,351 00:08:48,963 Probably carved up like a rabbit warren inside. Probably carved up like a rabbit warren inside.
182 00:08:49,006 00:08:51,487 Boss, there's a kid in the house. Boss, there's a kid in the house.
183 00:08:51,531 00:08:53,054 You said there were no children. You said there were no children.
184 00:08:53,097 00:08:55,404 Could be some local kid checking out the commotion. Could be some local kid checking out the commotion.
185 00:08:55,447 00:08:58,276 He ran into the farmhouse, sir. He ran into the farmhouse, sir.
186 00:08:58,320 00:09:02,237 This changes things. This changes things.
187 00:09:02,280 00:09:03,978 Get me the Attorney General on the line. Get me the Attorney General on the line.
188 00:09:04,021 00:09:05,980 There's movement at the front door. There's movement at the front door.
189 00:09:06,023 00:09:08,939 Please advise. It's a boy. Please advise. It's a boy.
190 00:09:08,983 00:09:12,160 There's something in his hand. There's something in his hand.
191 00:09:12,203 00:09:14,162 It does not appear to be a weapon. It does not appear to be a weapon.
192 00:09:14,205 00:09:17,078 I repeat, it does not appear to be a weapon. I repeat, it does not appear to be a weapon.
193 00:09:22,823 00:09:26,609 Lucas Novak wants to talk! Lucas Novak wants to talk!
194 00:09:26,653 00:09:32,354 But he'll only talk to the woman I saw. But he'll only talk to the woman I saw.
195 00:09:32,397 00:09:37,098 He wants to talk, but only to her. He wants to talk, but only to her.
196 00:09:49,240 00:09:52,635 So, the transmitter's built into the clip. So, the transmitter's built into the clip.
197 00:09:52,679 00:09:55,072 We'll hear everything, but he won't see it. We'll hear everything, but he won't see it.
198 00:09:55,116 00:09:58,119 Alright, alright, here, let me. Alright, alright, here, let me.
199 00:10:00,164 00:10:02,079 You going somewhere after this? You going somewhere after this?
200 00:10:02,123 00:10:04,691 Half the people in that file are young women. Half the people in that file are young women.
201 00:10:04,734 00:10:07,389 Lucas Novak collects them. He controls them, Lucas Novak collects them. He controls them,
202 00:10:07,432 00:10:09,217 even if it is getting them clean. even if it is getting them clean.
203 00:10:09,260 00:10:11,045 And you really believe that's what he's doing? And you really believe that's what he's doing?
204 00:10:11,088 00:10:13,525 I believe he's a narcissist. I believe he's a narcissist.
205 00:10:13,569 00:10:16,050 I want him to think I took the time to put my face on I want him to think I took the time to put my face on
206 00:10:16,093 00:10:19,096 before he saw me. before he saw me.
207 00:10:19,140 00:10:21,664 Okay, are we good? Okay, are we good?
208 00:10:21,708 00:10:24,319 Yeah. We'll get pretty much everything you say in there, Yeah. We'll get pretty much everything you say in there,
209 00:10:24,362 00:10:27,104 but, uh, try to get close if you can, okay? but, uh, try to get close if you can, okay?
210 00:10:30,107 00:10:31,979 That a good idea? Probably not. That a good idea? Probably not.
211 00:10:32,022 00:10:33,676 We can hide a weapon for you. We can hide a weapon for you.
212 00:10:33,720 00:10:37,114 Maybe I can't trust them, but they've got to trust me. Maybe I can't trust them, but they've got to trust me.
213 00:10:40,509 00:10:41,641 Okay. Okay.
214 00:10:41,684 00:10:44,644 We want to trust you, too, you know. We want to trust you, too, you know.
215 00:10:44,687 00:10:47,429 I'm a counter sniper. I work alone, I'm a counter sniper. I work alone,
216 00:10:47,472 00:10:49,736 but I can't do a damn thing without my team. but I can't do a damn thing without my team.
217 00:10:49,779 00:10:51,433 The team clears a space for me to work. The team clears a space for me to work.
218 00:10:51,476 00:10:53,130 I clear the space for the team. I clear the space for the team.
219 00:10:53,174 00:10:54,871 You don't trust us, we can't trust you. You don't trust us, we can't trust you.
220 00:10:54,915 00:10:57,439 Where's that leave anybody? Where's that leave anybody?
221 00:10:57,482 00:10:59,659 He doesn't just want you in there because you're a woman. He doesn't just want you in there because you're a woman.
222 00:10:59,702 00:11:01,878 You're also Clarice Starling. You're also Clarice Starling.
223 00:11:01,922 00:11:03,271 You're all over the news. You're all over the news.
224 00:11:03,314 00:11:05,403 It's a power play. It's a power play.
225 00:11:05,447 00:11:07,754 If you get in trouble in there, look for us. If you get in trouble in there, look for us.
226 00:11:07,797 00:11:10,104 Let us know where you are. We'll be there. Let us know where you are. We'll be there.
227 00:11:10,147 00:11:11,714 Alright, then. Alright, then.
228 00:11:11,758 00:11:14,978 Just give me five minutes to get into position, okay? Just give me five minutes to get into position, okay?
229 00:11:30,690 00:11:33,867 Good afternoon. This is the official statement Good afternoon. This is the official statement
230 00:11:33,910 00:11:35,738 from the Department of Justice. from the Department of Justice.
231 00:11:35,782 00:11:38,480 The militia group The Statesmen have reached out, The militia group The Statesmen have reached out,
232 00:11:38,523 00:11:40,787 and we have begun communication. and we have begun communication.
233 00:11:40,830 00:11:43,528 When did she record this? A few hours ago. When did she record this? A few hours ago.
234 00:11:43,572 00:11:46,009 Her plane's already touched down here in Tennessee. Her plane's already touched down here in Tennessee.
235 00:11:46,053 00:11:47,663 She's on her way. She's on her way.
236 00:11:47,707 00:11:51,232 I'm traveling there because I am a human being who understands I'm traveling there because I am a human being who understands
237 00:11:51,275 00:11:55,453 that every person in there is someone's child. that every person in there is someone's child.
238 00:11:55,497 00:11:58,805 I've already sent down ViCAP, my team, I've already sent down ViCAP, my team,
239 00:11:58,848 00:12:02,112 and the woman who saved the life of my daughter. and the woman who saved the life of my daughter.
240 00:12:02,156 00:12:04,201 They're talking she might run for governor down here. They're talking she might run for governor down here.
241 00:12:04,245 00:12:06,247 So it has to be a nuanced resolution, So it has to be a nuanced resolution,
242 00:12:06,290 00:12:07,596 not rolling in the tanks. not rolling in the tanks.
243 00:12:07,639 00:12:09,772 What if Novak decides to start World War III What if Novak decides to start World War III
244 00:12:09,816 00:12:11,426 with Starling in there? with Starling in there?
245 00:12:11,469 00:12:15,082 But my promise to the American people is that we will not leave But my promise to the American people is that we will not leave
246 00:12:15,125 00:12:18,825 until there is a peaceful resolution. until there is a peaceful resolution.
247 00:12:18,868 00:12:20,696 Thank you. Thank you.
248 00:12:22,437 00:12:24,221 Starling is moving into position. Starling is moving into position.
249 00:12:24,265 00:12:25,396 Jones, we count four hostiles Jones, we count four hostiles
250 00:12:25,440 00:12:27,398 on the roof facing southeast. on the roof facing southeast.
251 00:12:27,442 00:12:30,314 Copy that, I see them. Copy that, I see them.
252 00:12:30,358 00:12:31,751 Moore, watch your 3:00. Moore, watch your 3:00.
253 00:12:31,794 00:12:36,146 We got two more armed hostiles on the balcony. We got two more armed hostiles on the balcony.
254 00:12:36,190 00:12:37,800 I got eyes on Starling. I got eyes on Starling.
255 00:12:37,844 00:12:40,585 She's with the boy. She's with the boy.
256 00:12:40,629 00:12:41,978 Hey, there. Hey, there.
257 00:12:42,762 00:12:44,720 I brought y'all some food. I brought y'all some food.
258 00:12:45,852 00:12:47,854 I'm Clarice. I'm Clarice.
259 00:12:47,897 00:12:49,856 Are you famous? Are you famous?
260 00:12:49,899 00:12:51,422 Sort of. Sort of.
261 00:12:51,466 00:12:53,555 I saw you rubbing your shoulder. I saw you rubbing your shoulder.
262 00:12:53,598 00:12:55,513 Did you fall or something? Did you fall or something?
263 00:12:55,557 00:12:59,169 You know he saw you on TV? You know he saw you on TV?
264 00:12:59,213 00:13:01,171 I like cartoons. I like cartoons.
265 00:13:01,215 00:13:03,217 My mom's friends like soaps, My mom's friends like soaps,
266 00:13:03,260 00:13:06,263 even though TV is bad for you. even though TV is bad for you.
267 00:13:06,307 00:13:08,048 So, is that who you live with? So, is that who you live with?
268 00:13:08,091 00:13:09,876 Your mom and her friends? Your mom and her friends?
269 00:13:09,919 00:13:11,051 Yeah. Yeah.
270 00:13:11,094 00:13:12,226 My brother and I, My brother and I,
271 00:13:12,269 00:13:13,793 we used to watch the Roadrunner. we used to watch the Roadrunner.
272 00:13:13,836 00:13:16,839 I don't like him 'cause he don't talk. I don't like him 'cause he don't talk.
273 00:13:24,716 00:13:28,851 She's making her way toward the house. She's making her way toward the house.
274 00:14:04,844 00:14:06,628 All those crazy artificial colors All those crazy artificial colors
275 00:14:06,671 00:14:08,195 are gonna kill you someday. are gonna kill you someday.
276 00:14:08,238 00:14:11,633 You know what I see when I look at these gifts you brought? You know what I see when I look at these gifts you brought?
277 00:14:11,676 00:14:14,679 The clutches of late-stage capitalism. The clutches of late-stage capitalism.
278 00:14:14,723 00:14:17,291 No one knows what real nectar tastes like anymore. No one knows what real nectar tastes like anymore.
279 00:14:17,334 00:14:19,380 It's all just chemicals. It's all just chemicals.
280 00:14:19,423 00:14:22,644 Yellow's just a number. Red ain't red. Yellow's just a number. Red ain't red.
281 00:14:22,687 00:14:27,431 I think that's why all these people I think that's why all these people
282 00:14:27,475 00:14:31,261 are losing themselves now, don't you? are losing themselves now, don't you?
283 00:14:31,305 00:14:33,524 I'm not sure I follow, sir. I'm not sure I follow, sir.
284 00:14:33,568 00:14:36,658 The commodification of a person. The commodification of a person.
285 00:14:36,701 00:14:39,313 We're all just receptacles for corporations We're all just receptacles for corporations
286 00:14:39,356 00:14:41,358 to pour chemicals into. to pour chemicals into.
287 00:14:41,402 00:14:44,448 Is it any wonder when someone goes real dark, Is it any wonder when someone goes real dark,
288 00:14:44,492 00:14:47,799 starts to cut us apart? starts to cut us apart?
289 00:14:49,366 00:14:52,500 When there's no person left inside anymore. When there's no person left inside anymore.
290 00:14:52,543 00:14:54,806 Come on, Peter. Come on. Come on, Peter. Come on.
291 00:14:54,850 00:14:57,897 Go watch your stories on the TV. Go watch your stories on the TV.
292 00:14:58,245 00:15:00,334 Maggie. Maggie.
293 00:15:00,377 00:15:03,511 Wouldn't be proper for a man to lay hands on you. Wouldn't be proper for a man to lay hands on you.
294 00:15:03,554 00:15:06,427 I appreciate your consideration. I appreciate your consideration.
295 00:15:06,470 00:15:08,864 I'm Special Agent Clarice Starling. I'm Special Agent Clarice Starling.
296 00:15:08,908 00:15:11,040 But I'm guessing Peter already told you my name. But I'm guessing Peter already told you my name.
297 00:15:11,084 00:15:12,955 Oh, sure, sure. Oh, sure, sure.
298 00:15:12,999 00:15:15,784 You're the person who's been looking into You're the person who's been looking into
299 00:15:15,827 00:15:19,875 the terrifying mouth of what we're all slowly becoming. the terrifying mouth of what we're all slowly becoming.
300 00:15:19,919 00:15:22,269 I'm pleased to make your acquaintance. I'm pleased to make your acquaintance.
301 00:15:22,312 00:15:24,880 You know, Buffalo Bill... You know, Buffalo Bill...
302 00:15:30,320 00:15:35,760 Buffalo Bill was a man who breaks my heart, actually. Buffalo Bill was a man who breaks my heart, actually.
303 00:15:35,804 00:15:40,548 Thinking somebody would care for him if he was different. Thinking somebody would care for him if he was different.
304 00:15:40,591 00:15:43,681 But who hasn't thought that, hmm? But who hasn't thought that, hmm?
305 00:15:46,641 00:15:48,382 That Kentucky I hear in your accent? That Kentucky I hear in your accent?
306 00:15:48,425 00:15:49,818 West Virginia, sir. West Virginia, sir.
307 00:15:49,861 00:15:52,647 Then I imagine what you see here is all too familiar. Then I imagine what you see here is all too familiar.
308 00:15:52,690 00:15:55,389 How's a good girl like you become a fed, Clarice? How's a good girl like you become a fed, Clarice?
309 00:15:55,432 00:15:57,347 Only place to go was up or out. Only place to go was up or out.
310 00:15:57,391 00:15:58,392 There's always down, isn't there? There's always down, isn't there?
311 00:15:58,435 00:16:00,220 I didn't think you'd, uh, I didn't think you'd, uh,
312 00:16:00,263 00:16:02,004 have a sense of humor, sir. have a sense of humor, sir.
313 00:16:02,048 00:16:03,527 I can't help myself. I can't help myself.
314 00:16:03,571 00:16:06,400 No, I hate the feds. No, I hate the feds.
315 00:16:06,443 00:16:09,925 But you... But you...
316 00:16:09,969 00:16:12,884 you are what this country's all about. you are what this country's all about.
317 00:16:12,928 00:16:14,321 Or should be. Or should be.
318 00:16:14,364 00:16:16,976 I'd like to shake your hand. I'd like to shake your hand.
319 00:16:22,242 00:16:24,287 Used to hard work. Used to hard work.
320 00:16:24,331 00:16:26,594 Dry hands. Dry hands.
321 00:16:26,637 00:16:28,291 Maggie. Ew. Maggie. Ew.
322 00:16:28,335 00:16:29,727 I hate this guy. I hate this guy.
323 00:16:29,771 00:16:34,167 Castor oil and rose water will take care of that. Castor oil and rose water will take care of that.
324 00:16:34,210 00:16:35,603 That's really not necessary... That's really not necessary...
325 00:16:35,646 00:16:36,865 No, no, no, it's my pleasure. No, no, no, it's my pleasure.
326 00:16:36,908 00:16:39,824 You'll like it, right, Emma? You'll like it, right, Emma?
327 00:16:39,868 00:16:41,783 I sure do. I sure do.
328 00:16:46,222 00:16:50,009 I know how hard that road is to up and out. I know how hard that road is to up and out.
329 00:16:50,052 00:16:55,057 You have to give up a lot, leave people behind. You have to give up a lot, leave people behind.
330 00:16:57,625 00:17:00,106 Did you leave behind people? Did you leave behind people?
331 00:17:00,149 00:17:01,803 Family? Family?
332 00:17:01,846 00:17:04,762 Someone who didn't get up or out? Someone who didn't get up or out?
333 00:17:10,681 00:17:12,379 Now, don't... Don't wipe it Now, don't... Don't wipe it
334 00:17:12,422 00:17:13,467 on your clothes. on your clothes.
335 00:17:13,510 00:17:15,425 It'll stain. It'll stain.
336 00:17:17,210 00:17:20,648 M-Mr. Novak, a federal agent was shot on your property. M-Mr. Novak, a federal agent was shot on your property.
337 00:17:20,691 00:17:22,084 We need the shooter. We need the shooter.
338 00:17:22,128 00:17:24,043 We need to get in here and search the place. We need to get in here and search the place.
339 00:17:24,086 00:17:25,653 You know this. You know this.
340 00:17:25,696 00:17:27,698 There's steps to this going away, and I need to take them. There's steps to this going away, and I need to take them.
341 00:17:27,742 00:17:31,050 I-I truly don't know who shot your man, Clarice. I-I truly don't know who shot your man, Clarice.
342 00:17:31,093 00:17:34,140 I know it's unorthodox what I do here. I know it's unorthodox what I do here.
343 00:17:34,183 00:17:35,793 I get people clean I get people clean
344 00:17:35,837 00:17:38,100 'cause I won't take the padlock off the damn door for two weeks 'cause I won't take the padlock off the damn door for two weeks
345 00:17:38,144 00:17:40,842 while they shiver so hard they think they're gonna die, while they shiver so hard they think they're gonna die,
346 00:17:40,885 00:17:44,019 and I know that looks like unlawful imprisonment, and I know that looks like unlawful imprisonment,
347 00:17:44,063 00:17:47,196 but we are dying down here. but we are dying down here.
348 00:17:47,240 00:17:48,850 I built something. I built something.
349 00:17:48,893 00:17:52,549 And I can't let the feds take it away from us. And I can't let the feds take it away from us.
350 00:17:52,593 00:17:54,464 You know your law, but that's not what You know your law, but that's not what
351 00:17:54,508 00:17:55,813 we're here to do, sir. we're here to do, sir.
352 00:17:55,857 00:17:58,251 Wasn't there someone in your life Wasn't there someone in your life
353 00:17:58,294 00:18:00,166 could've used someone like me? could've used someone like me?
354 00:18:00,209 00:18:03,604 I know there was. I can see it in your eyes. I know there was. I can see it in your eyes.
355 00:18:10,176 00:18:12,134 My brother. My brother.
356 00:18:15,877 00:18:18,880 S-Sir, I find it strange S-Sir, I find it strange
357 00:18:18,923 00:18:20,360 that you don't know who the shooter is. that you don't know who the shooter is.
358 00:18:20,403 00:18:22,536 This is your place. This is your place.
359 00:18:22,579 00:18:27,541 I saw you look at Emma's little one, our Rabbit. I saw you look at Emma's little one, our Rabbit.
360 00:18:27,584 00:18:28,933 I thought maybe you had a kid of your own, I thought maybe you had a kid of your own,
361 00:18:28,977 00:18:31,414 but now I see it different. but now I see it different.
362 00:18:31,458 00:18:34,156 You had a brother. You had a brother.
363 00:18:34,200 00:18:35,853 Maybe some of your people know something Maybe some of your people know something
364 00:18:35,897 00:18:39,161 about what happened here today. about what happened here today.
365 00:18:39,205 00:18:41,816 You ever make leather britches out of beans? You ever make leather britches out of beans?
366 00:18:41,859 00:18:43,557 String them up to dry. String them up to dry.
367 00:18:43,600 00:18:45,776 All the time when I was little. All the time when I was little.
368 00:18:49,954 00:18:51,173 Please. Please.
369 00:18:51,217 00:18:54,350 Emma, we're gonna need more green beans. Emma, we're gonna need more green beans.
370 00:19:30,647 00:19:32,519 Mama, was that Daddy's cap? Mama, was that Daddy's cap?
371 00:19:32,562 00:19:34,869 What happened to Daddy? I want to know what happened to Daddy. What happened to Daddy? I want to know what happened to Daddy.
372 00:19:34,912 00:19:36,740 Clarice, tell your brothers and sister Clarice, tell your brothers and sister
373 00:19:36,784 00:19:39,700 to wash up and come to the table. to wash up and come to the table.
374 00:19:41,484 00:19:43,965 Sir, may I please use the restroom? Sir, may I please use the restroom?
375 00:19:52,713 00:19:54,236 You were still a trainee when you stopped Buffalo Bill You were still a trainee when you stopped Buffalo Bill
376 00:19:54,280 00:19:56,282 from skinning and killing more women. from skinning and killing more women.
377 00:20:01,765 00:20:03,985 These things make me think this agent needs to be These things make me think this agent needs to be
378 00:20:04,028 00:20:06,640 out of rotation until she can heal from PTSD out of rotation until she can heal from PTSD
379 00:20:06,683 00:20:09,077 of the most egregious kind. of the most egregious kind.
380 00:20:14,343 00:20:15,779 Don't. Don't.
381 00:20:17,607 00:20:19,870 Don't. Don't.
382 00:20:24,788 00:20:28,009 Oh, she's on the edge. Now's the time. Oh, she's on the edge. Now's the time.
383 00:20:28,052 00:20:31,708 Tell the boys on the roof to start raising hell. Tell the boys on the roof to start raising hell.
384 00:20:37,323 00:20:38,846 FBI security, FBI security,
385 00:20:38,889 00:20:40,587 we are approaching with the Attorney General. we are approaching with the Attorney General.
386 00:20:40,630 00:20:42,023 Two minutes out. Two minutes out.
387 00:20:45,940 00:20:48,116 Get off our damn land, pigs! Get off our damn land, pigs!
388 00:20:48,159 00:20:50,118 Incoming! Incoming! Incoming! Incoming!
389 00:20:50,161 00:20:52,338 Take cover! Take cover, take cover! Take cover! Take cover, take cover!
390 00:20:53,774 00:20:55,166 We've got a situation. We've got a situation.
391 00:20:55,210 00:20:57,343 Hostiles on the roof riling up ATF. Hostiles on the roof riling up ATF.
392 00:21:00,128 00:21:03,044 Aah! Aah!
393 00:21:03,087 00:21:05,829 - Take cover. - We just got shot at! - Take cover. - We just got shot at!
394 00:21:07,744 00:21:10,312 Open fire! Open fire! Open fire! Open fire!
395 00:21:10,356 00:21:11,400 Who fired? Who fired?
396 00:21:11,444 00:21:13,141 One of ours misfired. One of ours misfired.
397 00:21:14,577 00:21:16,405 Who the hell is shooting? Who the hell is shooting?
398 00:21:18,233 00:21:20,844 This is getting bad. This is getting bad.
399 00:21:25,980 00:21:29,505 Agent Starling! Agent Starling! Agent Starling! Agent Starling!
400 00:21:29,897 00:21:31,725 Okay, wait! Y-Your people need you. Okay, wait! Y-Your people need you.
401 00:21:31,768 00:21:33,379 Got to get everybody out here safely. Got to get everybody out here safely.
402 00:21:33,422 00:21:34,554 Just let my team come in. Just let my team come in.
403 00:21:34,597 00:21:35,816 It can't be the feds. It can't be the feds.
404 00:21:35,859 00:21:36,904 My people are scared of the feds. My people are scared of the feds.
405 00:21:36,947 00:21:38,427 Local sheriff... it has to be. Local sheriff... it has to be.
406 00:21:38,471 00:21:41,082 Come on! Come, come, come! Get that sheriff in here. Come on! Come, come, come! Get that sheriff in here.
407 00:21:41,125 00:21:44,433 Starling? Are you there? Starling? Are you there?
408 00:21:44,477 00:21:45,913 Starling? Starling?
409 00:21:45,956 00:21:48,045 If you're in there, Starling, take cover. If you're in there, Starling, take cover.
410 00:21:49,830 00:21:51,397 Starling, do you copy? Starling, do you copy?
411 00:21:51,440 00:21:53,355 This is Starling inside the house. This is Starling inside the house.
412 00:21:53,399 00:21:54,922 Hold fire, hold fire! Hold fire, hold fire!
413 00:21:54,965 00:21:56,184 Novak says he'll negotiate, Novak says he'll negotiate,
414 00:21:56,227 00:21:58,752 but only with local law enforcement. but only with local law enforcement.
415 00:21:58,795 00:22:00,449 Hodge, cease fire. Hodge, cease fire.
416 00:22:00,493 00:22:03,844 The Attorney General is here. Cease fire. The Attorney General is here. Cease fire.
417 00:22:03,887 00:22:06,629 Hold your fire! Hold your fire!
418 00:22:06,673 00:22:10,154 Lower your weapons! Lower your weapons!
419 00:22:10,198 00:22:12,809 Our time here's coming to an end, Agent Starling. Our time here's coming to an end, Agent Starling.
420 00:22:12,853 00:22:16,422 I saw you were upset when you went in the bathroom. I saw you were upset when you went in the bathroom.
421 00:22:16,465 00:22:19,294 Tell me about "don't." Tell me about "don't."
422 00:22:19,338 00:22:20,643 "Don't"? "Don't"?
423 00:22:20,687 00:22:23,211 What makes you say that word to yourself? What makes you say that word to yourself?
424 00:22:23,254 00:22:26,301 Lucas Novak, we're coming in! Lucas Novak, we're coming in!
425 00:22:30,044 00:22:32,829 That's far as you go! That's far as you go!
426 00:22:32,873 00:22:34,527 We ain't gonna shoot, but we don't want to We ain't gonna shoot, but we don't want to
427 00:22:34,570 00:22:35,876 get shot at neither. get shot at neither.
428 00:22:35,919 00:22:38,487 That's the way I look at it, too, Lucas. That's the way I look at it, too, Lucas.
429 00:22:54,416 00:22:56,070 Go. Go.
430 00:22:56,113 00:22:58,159 I'm Sheriff Rowan. I'm Sheriff Rowan.
431 00:22:58,202 00:23:00,161 You all right, Agent Starling? You all right, Agent Starling?
432 00:23:00,204 00:23:02,903 Yes, sir. We still don't have a shooter. Yes, sir. We still don't have a shooter.
433 00:23:02,946 00:23:04,252 They gonna back off? They gonna back off?
434 00:23:04,295 00:23:06,646 Not until the shooter is in custody. Not until the shooter is in custody.
435 00:23:06,689 00:23:08,996 I don't know who he is. I don't know who he is.
436 00:23:09,039 00:23:11,781 I'll show you my armory... show of good faith. I'll show you my armory... show of good faith.
437 00:23:11,825 00:23:14,393 Hell, maybe the weapon he used is in there. Hell, maybe the weapon he used is in there.
438 00:23:18,701 00:23:20,790 David. David.
439 00:23:22,401 00:23:24,446 You've done a fine job here. You've done a fine job here.
440 00:23:24,490 00:23:26,013 Agent Krendler wants you back at command Agent Krendler wants you back at command
441 00:23:26,056 00:23:27,971 now that we got the area secure. now that we got the area secure.
442 00:23:28,015 00:23:29,799 Sir, the boy's still inside. Sir, the boy's still inside.
443 00:23:29,843 00:23:32,062 We'll find him. We'll find him.
444 00:23:39,243 00:23:42,159 Don't be a stranger, now. Don't be a stranger, now.
445 00:23:50,298 00:23:54,041 Clarice, what are you doing? Clarice, what are you doing?
446 00:23:54,433 00:23:57,871 Agent Merengue, switch to channel Adam 4. Agent Merengue, switch to channel Adam 4.
447 00:23:57,914 00:24:01,004 Esquivel to Agents Sad and Flaccid, over. Esquivel to Agents Sad and Flaccid, over.
448 00:24:01,048 00:24:03,485 Who shot first, ATF or Statesmen? Who shot first, ATF or Statesmen?
449 00:24:03,529 00:24:07,707 Statesmen were throwing bottles, but ATF definitely shot first. Statesmen were throwing bottles, but ATF definitely shot first.
450 00:24:07,750 00:24:10,797 Well, it'd be good to find out if local ATF are friendlies. Well, it'd be good to find out if local ATF are friendlies.
451 00:24:10,840 00:24:12,189 Can we do that quietly? Can we do that quietly?
452 00:24:12,233 00:24:14,148 I don't trust anyone at headquarters I don't trust anyone at headquarters
453 00:24:14,191 00:24:16,193 not to blab to the ATF. not to blab to the ATF.
454 00:24:16,237 00:24:18,239 You don't trust anybody, period. You don't trust anybody, period.
455 00:24:18,282 00:24:19,849 I do. I do.
456 00:24:19,893 00:24:21,547 Starling has a friend back at Buzzard's Point. Starling has a friend back at Buzzard's Point.
457 00:24:21,590 00:24:23,984 Find Ardelia Mapp. Find Ardelia Mapp.
458 00:26:27,542 00:26:30,066 Tripathi, put more paper in your fax machine. Tripathi, put more paper in your fax machine.
459 00:26:30,110 00:26:32,416 There's a lot coming. There's a lot coming.
460 00:26:32,460 00:26:36,333 Everyone on that ATF unit down there turned up clean. Everyone on that ATF unit down there turned up clean.
461 00:26:37,683 00:26:40,511 Okay, there's a contact I trust from Quantico. Okay, there's a contact I trust from Quantico.
462 00:26:40,555 00:26:43,689 It turns out he's been keeping a file on, and I quote, It turns out he's been keeping a file on, and I quote,
463 00:26:43,732 00:26:46,605 "That crooked son of a bitch Sheriff Rowan for years, "That crooked son of a bitch Sheriff Rowan for years,
464 00:26:46,648 00:26:48,694 but nothing ever sticks." but nothing ever sticks."
465 00:26:48,737 00:26:51,435 You think all the assault weapons might've got the feds You think all the assault weapons might've got the feds
466 00:26:51,479 00:26:52,828 interested in you? This is on you. interested in you? This is on you.
467 00:26:52,872 00:26:55,222 ATF showing up at my door. You're losing it. ATF showing up at my door. You're losing it.
468 00:26:55,265 00:26:57,572 Yeah, well, who shot the agent on your watch? Yeah, well, who shot the agent on your watch?
469 00:26:57,616 00:26:58,921 I don't know! You got to hand him over. I don't know! You got to hand him over.
470 00:26:58,965 00:27:00,444 Get rid of the feds, I'll find out. Get rid of the feds, I'll find out.
471 00:27:00,488 00:27:02,229 We got to give 'em someone. We got to give 'em someone.
472 00:27:02,272 00:27:03,839 Once they have someone in custody, Once they have someone in custody,
473 00:27:03,883 00:27:05,406 they'll pull the hell out. they'll pull the hell out.
474 00:27:05,449 00:27:07,060 Maggie. Maggie.
475 00:27:07,103 00:27:10,237 She's a good girl. She'll keep quiet. She's a good girl. She'll keep quiet.
476 00:27:10,280 00:27:13,762 Extortion, narcotics, prostitution. Extortion, narcotics, prostitution.
477 00:27:15,677 00:27:17,287 They made an arrest. They made an arrest.
478 00:27:17,331 00:27:19,246 Whoever they're serving up is a patsy. Whoever they're serving up is a patsy.
479 00:27:19,289 00:27:21,552 We only got the shooter 'cause we agreed to pull out. We only got the shooter 'cause we agreed to pull out.
480 00:27:21,596 00:27:23,250 We cannot leave while Novak's in there We cannot leave while Novak's in there
481 00:27:23,293 00:27:24,555 with a bunch of women and a kid. with a bunch of women and a kid.
482 00:27:24,599 00:27:26,732 Sheriff Rowan is wired deep down here. Sheriff Rowan is wired deep down here.
483 00:27:26,775 00:27:29,038 We have to be strategic. We have to be strategic.
484 00:27:29,082 00:27:32,172 We're not escalating. Pull the team out. We're not escalating. Pull the team out.
485 00:27:32,781 00:27:34,870 Ma'am? Ma'am?
486 00:27:34,914 00:27:37,568 Do you want another Waco? Do you want another Waco?
487 00:27:37,612 00:27:39,309 Do it. Do it.
488 00:28:15,824 00:28:16,956 Hey. Hey.
489 00:28:16,999 00:28:18,566 You got to get out of here. You got to get out of here.
490 00:28:18,609 00:28:20,873 Novak told the people on the roof to throw bottles Novak told the people on the roof to throw bottles
491 00:28:20,916 00:28:22,222 at the police. at the police.
492 00:28:22,265 00:28:24,311 When you were in the bathroom. When you were in the bathroom.
493 00:28:24,354 00:28:26,356 Why? Why?
494 00:28:28,097 00:28:31,144 He wanted them to start shooting. He wanted them to start shooting.
495 00:28:31,187 00:28:35,235 He wanted things to escalate. He wanted things to escalate.
496 00:28:35,278 00:28:37,541 He wanted Rowan in. He wanted Rowan in.
497 00:28:39,630 00:28:42,764 Peter, you have a big old bruise Peter, you have a big old bruise
498 00:28:42,808 00:28:44,418 on your right cheek, on your right cheek,
499 00:28:44,461 00:28:46,333 and you've been rubbing at your shoulder. and you've been rubbing at your shoulder.
500 00:28:46,376 00:28:49,553 Rifles are heavy, and they have a lot of kickback. Rifles are heavy, and they have a lot of kickback.
501 00:28:49,597 00:28:51,904 It's like getting kicked by a mule. It's like getting kicked by a mule.
502 00:28:51,947 00:28:53,862 Peter? Peter?
503 00:28:55,211 00:28:57,779 Did you shoot the ATF agent? Did you shoot the ATF agent?
504 00:29:03,306 00:29:05,265 I didn't mean to hurt anyone. I didn't mean to hurt anyone.
505 00:29:05,308 00:29:08,007 I just wanted someone to come. I just wanted someone to come.
506 00:29:08,050 00:29:11,445 Someone to... Someone to...
507 00:29:11,488 00:29:13,577 Help? Help?
508 00:29:15,101 00:29:18,365 You were calling for help. You were calling for help.
509 00:29:18,408 00:29:20,715 Why didn't you ask Sheriff Rowan for help? Why didn't you ask Sheriff Rowan for help?
510 00:29:20,759 00:29:23,196 Mom says he's the worst one. Mom says he's the worst one.
511 00:29:23,239 00:29:24,632 When he gets mad, When he gets mad,
512 00:29:24,675 00:29:27,896 my mom's friends end up dead in the woods. my mom's friends end up dead in the woods.
513 00:29:29,898 00:29:32,205 Okay. Okay.
514 00:29:33,162 00:29:35,730 They call you Rabbit, right? They call you Rabbit, right?
515 00:29:35,774 00:29:37,776 You got to rabbit right now. You got to rabbit right now.
516 00:29:37,819 00:29:39,081 Get to the command tent. Get to the command tent.
517 00:29:39,125 00:29:40,517 Go on. Go on.
518 00:29:40,561 00:29:42,041 Get. Get.
519 00:29:56,838 00:29:58,709 The standoff that started early this morning The standoff that started early this morning
520 00:29:58,753 00:30:01,625 outside of a Tennessee compound looks to be coming to an end outside of a Tennessee compound looks to be coming to an end
521 00:30:01,669 00:30:04,106 as the shooter of the ATF agent who was shot and... as the shooter of the ATF agent who was shot and...
522 00:30:04,150 00:30:05,760 ...informed us that the shooter of ...informed us that the shooter of
523 00:30:05,804 00:30:08,110 the ATF officer has been identified and arrested the ATF officer has been identified and arrested
524 00:30:08,154 00:30:11,418 outside of the Tennessee compound. outside of the Tennessee compound.
525 00:30:11,461 00:30:14,247 I can't believe she's making us lie down. I can't believe she's making us lie down.
526 00:30:14,290 00:30:17,641 New AG got in the sewer real quick. New AG got in the sewer real quick.
527 00:30:22,472 00:30:24,300 Be right back. Be right back.
528 00:30:24,953 00:30:27,173 Agent Krendler, this is Starling. Agent Krendler, this is Starling.
529 00:30:27,216 00:30:28,870 Starling, where the hell are you? Starling, where the hell are you?
530 00:30:28,914 00:30:31,133 Sir, I'm trying to be real quiet. Sir, I'm trying to be real quiet.
531 00:30:31,177 00:30:34,006 Rowan and Novak are operating a prostitution ring. Rowan and Novak are operating a prostitution ring.
532 00:30:34,049 00:30:36,138 Well, Rowan just made an arrest for the shooting. Well, Rowan just made an arrest for the shooting.
533 00:30:36,182 00:30:37,661 Who confessed, Maggie? Who confessed, Maggie?
534 00:30:37,705 00:30:38,793 Yes. Yes.
535 00:30:38,837 00:30:40,403 She's lying. They made her confess. She's lying. They made her confess.
536 00:30:40,447 00:30:42,971 I have evidence video about the prostitution. I have evidence video about the prostitution.
537 00:30:44,407 00:30:46,932 That directly implicates Sheriff Rowan? That directly implicates Sheriff Rowan?
538 00:30:46,975 00:30:48,107 No. No.
539 00:30:48,150 00:30:49,499 Then end of discussion. Then end of discussion.
540 00:30:49,543 00:30:51,414 We have her in custody, we're pulling out. We have her in custody, we're pulling out.
541 00:30:51,458 00:30:53,460 That's from the AG. That's from the AG.
542 00:30:56,680 00:30:58,552 I'm out of moves on this side. I'm out of moves on this side.
543 00:30:58,595 00:31:00,554 She wants to take the arrest for the win. She wants to take the arrest for the win.
544 00:31:00,597 00:31:02,904 Sir, Novak deliberately escalated things Sir, Novak deliberately escalated things
545 00:31:02,948 00:31:06,516 to get Rowan in because he knew Rowan would get him out. to get Rowan in because he knew Rowan would get him out.
546 00:31:06,560 00:31:09,955 I can make Novak give it up, give them both up. I can make Novak give it up, give them both up.
547 00:31:12,958 00:31:14,873 Sir, I need your authorization. Sir, I need your authorization.
548 00:31:14,916 00:31:18,659 I know you have every reason not to, but I'm asking anyway. I know you have every reason not to, but I'm asking anyway.
549 00:31:18,702 00:31:21,314 I know guys like this. I know guys like this.
550 00:31:23,446 00:31:25,492 You're breaking up. I can't hear you. You're breaking up. I can't hear you.
551 00:31:25,535 00:31:27,886 Use your best judgment, get back here A.S.A.P. Use your best judgment, get back here A.S.A.P.
552 00:31:27,929 00:31:29,800 Command out. Command out.
553 00:31:33,369 00:31:35,676 Better check your equipment. Better check your equipment.
554 00:31:36,851 00:31:38,635 The incident began The incident began
555 00:31:38,679 00:31:40,899 when the agent was prevented from serving a warrant. when the agent was prevented from serving a warrant.
556 00:31:40,942 00:31:42,857 The leader of the group, Lucas Novak... The leader of the group, Lucas Novak...
557 00:31:42,901 00:31:45,773 You're still here? You're still here?
558 00:31:53,607 00:31:56,044 You come to watch TV? You come to watch TV?
559 00:31:56,088 00:31:57,654 It was on. It was on.
560 00:31:57,698 00:31:59,352 They're playing a lot of stories about you. They're playing a lot of stories about you.
561 00:31:59,395 00:32:01,180 They can't get enough of you. They can't get enough of you.
562 00:32:01,223 00:32:02,398 What the hell is she doing? What the hell is she doing?
563 00:32:02,442 00:32:03,704 She's telling us where she is. She's telling us where she is.
564 00:32:03,747 00:32:05,184 You pull her out now. You pull her out now.
565 00:32:05,227 00:32:08,927 I can't. Her HT is off. I can't. Her HT is off.
566 00:32:09,840 00:32:10,754 Esquivel? Esquivel?
567 00:32:10,798 00:32:11,930 You have a line of sight? You have a line of sight?
568 00:32:11,973 00:32:13,583 Negative. No visual. Negative. No visual.
569 00:32:13,627 00:32:15,716 I can picture you, I can picture you,
570 00:32:15,759 00:32:19,676 sitting here, relaxing at night. sitting here, relaxing at night.
571 00:32:19,720 00:32:23,115 You're thinking about me? You're thinking about me?
572 00:32:23,158 00:32:26,509 You remind me of someone. You remind me of someone.
573 00:32:26,553 00:32:28,816 My father. My father.
574 00:32:28,859 00:32:30,644 My daddy. My daddy.
575 00:32:30,687 00:32:32,472 He was a sheriff. He was a sheriff.
576 00:32:32,515 00:32:35,040 A sheriff? A sheriff?
577 00:32:35,083 00:32:37,433 You must've adored him. You must've adored him.
578 00:32:39,958 00:32:42,917 You bet I did. You bet I did.
579 00:32:42,961 00:32:45,964 He died before I left home for good. He died before I left home for good.
580 00:32:48,618 00:32:52,492 You know, he used to take me for root beer floats. You know, he used to take me for root beer floats.
581 00:32:52,535 00:32:57,758 And the soda jerk who made them, he was not a kind man. And the soda jerk who made them, he was not a kind man.
582 00:32:57,801 00:32:59,978 Wonder why he chose to be around kids. Wonder why he chose to be around kids.
583 00:33:00,021 00:33:03,242 Maybe that's why he chose to be around kids. Maybe that's why he chose to be around kids.
584 00:33:03,285 00:33:05,157 Maybe. Maybe.
585 00:33:05,200 00:33:08,725 Hadn't thought of that. Hadn't thought of that.
586 00:33:08,769 00:33:12,642 There was this one time, we found this neighbor boy There was this one time, we found this neighbor boy
587 00:33:12,686 00:33:17,038 crying 'cause of the soda jerk's meanness. crying 'cause of the soda jerk's meanness.
588 00:33:17,082 00:33:20,650 If there was one thing my daddy couldn't stand, If there was one thing my daddy couldn't stand,
589 00:33:20,694 00:33:24,567 it was someone who picked on folks weaker than them. it was someone who picked on folks weaker than them.
590 00:33:24,611 00:33:28,832 He told the boy to come inside with us. He told the boy to come inside with us.
591 00:33:28,876 00:33:32,445 And when my daddy, the sheriff, And when my daddy, the sheriff,
592 00:33:32,488 00:33:35,970 walked into that store, walked into that store,
593 00:33:36,014 00:33:38,886 the soda jerk cowered. the soda jerk cowered.
594 00:33:38,929 00:33:42,281 He got small. He got small.
595 00:33:42,324 00:33:44,500 How did that make you feel, How did that make you feel,
596 00:33:44,544 00:33:47,286 seeing the power your daddy had? seeing the power your daddy had?
597 00:33:47,329 00:33:49,897 It was... It was...
598 00:33:49,940 00:33:52,030 intoxicating. intoxicating.
599 00:33:55,772 00:34:00,081 Though I didn't have that word at the time. Though I didn't have that word at the time.
600 00:34:00,125 00:34:01,561 How does it feel How does it feel
601 00:34:01,604 00:34:05,043 when your people... when your people...
602 00:34:05,086 00:34:10,135 your women give themselves over to you? your women give themselves over to you?
603 00:34:11,266 00:34:14,748 It feels intoxicating. It feels intoxicating.
604 00:34:14,791 00:34:17,446 And I understand your daddy. And I understand your daddy.
605 00:34:18,230 00:34:23,496 I have dedicated my life to helping my girls. I have dedicated my life to helping my girls.
606 00:34:23,539 00:34:26,325 It makes me feel, um... It makes me feel, um...
607 00:34:26,368 00:34:30,068 I don't know, like... like your daddy felt, I guess. I don't know, like... like your daddy felt, I guess.
608 00:34:32,374 00:34:35,073 You're not getting it. You're not getting it.
609 00:34:40,165 00:34:42,254 You'rethe soda jerk. You'rethe soda jerk.
610 00:34:42,471 00:34:44,343 Wait, now. Wait, now.
611 00:34:44,386 00:34:45,387 Oh, geez. Oh, geez.
612 00:34:45,431 00:34:47,128 Other men Other men
613 00:34:47,172 00:34:49,870 remind me of my daddy. remind me of my daddy.
614 00:34:49,913 00:34:53,569 Sheriff Rowan, he has that kind of walk, Sheriff Rowan, he has that kind of walk,
615 00:34:53,613 00:34:55,832 that kind of power. that kind of power.
616 00:34:55,876 00:35:00,533 And he'll use it to hurt you, to punish you. And he'll use it to hurt you, to punish you.
617 00:35:01,099 00:35:03,362 He can't hurt me. He can't hurt me.
618 00:35:03,405 00:35:04,711 He's nothing without me. He's nothing without me.
619 00:35:04,754 00:35:06,713 He's the lawman. He has the walk. He's the lawman. He has the walk.
620 00:35:06,756 00:35:09,585 He feeds me johns. I pay him. He feeds me johns. I pay him.
621 00:35:09,629 00:35:11,370 He's my bitch. He's my bitch.
622 00:35:11,413 00:35:13,546 Come on. Come on, bring it home. Come on. Come on, bring it home.
623 00:35:13,589 00:35:14,895 Come on, Lucas, Come on, Lucas,
624 00:35:14,938 00:35:17,115 everyone says that Rowan is the big dog. everyone says that Rowan is the big dog.
625 00:35:17,158 00:35:19,029 The locals say it. Hell, Magistrate Cotton says it... The locals say it. Hell, Magistrate Cotton says it...
626 00:35:19,073 00:35:21,249 Because Rowan needs to believe that. Because Rowan needs to believe that.
627 00:35:21,293 00:35:23,077 I let him believe that. I let him believe that.
628 00:35:23,121 00:35:25,601 All those nitwits down in government, that Jefferson, All those nitwits down in government, that Jefferson,
629 00:35:25,645 00:35:26,907 Cotton, McGeary... Cotton, McGeary...
630 00:35:26,950 00:35:28,300 McGeary? Wait, which one is he? McGeary? Wait, which one is he?
631 00:35:28,343 00:35:30,519 It's the whole damn courthouse, girl. It's the whole damn courthouse, girl.
632 00:35:30,563 00:35:33,566 I'm the big dog. They're mine. I'm the big dog. They're mine.
633 00:35:33,609 00:35:35,133 You don't talk You don't talk
634 00:35:35,176 00:35:36,960 when I am talking. when I am talking.
635 00:35:37,004 00:35:38,614 She did it. She did it.
636 00:35:38,658 00:35:40,181 Did she just... She got it. Did she just... She got it.
637 00:35:40,225 00:35:42,009 She got every crook in the courthouse. She got every crook in the courthouse.
638 00:35:42,052 00:35:44,185 I want every copy of that tape. I want every copy of that tape.
639 00:35:44,229 00:35:45,404 Esquivel, you got eyes? Esquivel, you got eyes?
640 00:35:45,447 00:35:46,840 Negative. No clear shot. Negative. No clear shot.
641 00:35:46,883 00:35:48,755 She's with Novak in the southwest corner. She's with Novak in the southwest corner.
642 00:35:48,798 00:35:51,410 Lucas Novak, you are under arrest Lucas Novak, you are under arrest
643 00:35:51,453 00:35:53,803 for violations of the Mann Act. for violations of the Mann Act.
644 00:35:53,847 00:35:55,153 Girl? Girl?
645 00:35:55,196 00:35:58,939 We have you on tape operating a prostitution ring. We have you on tape operating a prostitution ring.
646 00:36:06,468 00:36:09,297 Oh, that's smart. Oh, that's smart.
647 00:36:17,653 00:36:22,180 You might have a little wire on you. You might have a little wire on you.
648 00:36:25,574 00:36:30,057 But you know what you don't have? But you know what you don't have?
649 00:36:30,666 00:36:32,277 You don't have backup. You don't have backup.
650 00:36:32,320 00:36:35,018 You're pointing your weapon at a federal officer. You're pointing your weapon at a federal officer.
651 00:36:35,062 00:36:37,238 Seems to me we're all alone. Seems to me we're all alone.
652 00:36:37,282 00:36:39,980 You want to play police like your daddy? You want to play police like your daddy?
653 00:36:40,023 00:36:45,377 Here you are, a little girl all on your own. Here you are, a little girl all on your own.
654 00:36:48,293 00:36:51,209 You don't mean nothing to them feds over there. You don't mean nothing to them feds over there.
655 00:36:51,252 00:36:52,862 That's why I chose you. That's why I chose you.
656 00:36:52,906 00:36:56,126 That, and I was thinking it might be nice That, and I was thinking it might be nice
657 00:36:56,170 00:37:00,043 to see what was under that skirt of yours. to see what was under that skirt of yours.
658 00:37:01,044 00:37:02,220 Esquivel. Esquivel.
659 00:37:02,263 00:37:04,178 Please, sir, please let me go. Please, sir, please let me go.
660 00:37:04,222 00:37:06,311 "Please"? "Please"?
661 00:37:06,354 00:37:07,834 Come on, girl. Come on, girl.
662 00:37:07,877 00:37:10,271 I thought you'd have a little more fight in you than that. I thought you'd have a little more fight in you than that.
663 00:37:10,315 00:37:13,622 Sir, you have no idea. Sir, you have no idea.
664 00:37:33,251 00:37:35,949 Starling? Agent Starling, what's your twenty?! Starling? Agent Starling, what's your twenty?!
665 00:37:35,992 00:37:38,386 Agent Starling, come in! What's your twenty?! Agent Starling, come in! What's your twenty?!
666 00:37:38,430 00:37:40,345 Agent Starling? Agent Starling?
667 00:37:40,388 00:37:42,825 He feeds me johns. I pay him. He feeds me johns. I pay him.
668 00:37:42,869 00:37:44,523 He's my bitch. He's my bitch.
669 00:37:44,566 00:37:46,525 Come on, Lucas, everyone says that Rowan Come on, Lucas, everyone says that Rowan
670 00:37:46,568 00:37:48,266 is the big dog. is the big dog.
671 00:37:48,309 00:37:49,789 The locals say it. Hell, Magistrate Cotton says it... The locals say it. Hell, Magistrate Cotton says it...
672 00:37:49,832 00:37:50,877 Because Rowan... Because Rowan...
673 00:37:54,228 00:37:57,840 Fabric's awfully thin, Madam Attorney General. Fabric's awfully thin, Madam Attorney General.
674 00:37:57,884 00:37:59,494 You try to squeeze those trousers on me, You try to squeeze those trousers on me,
675 00:37:59,538 00:38:02,062 I might just split 'em up the back. I might just split 'em up the back.
676 00:38:04,934 00:38:07,415 These officers have active Internal Affairs These officers have active Internal Affairs
677 00:38:07,459 00:38:09,287 investigations against them. investigations against them.
678 00:38:09,330 00:38:12,507 You're Secretary of the Eastern Tennessee You're Secretary of the Eastern Tennessee
679 00:38:12,551 00:38:15,205 Fraternal Order of Police. Fraternal Order of Police.
680 00:38:15,249 00:38:17,382 There must be 50 names here. There must be 50 names here.
681 00:38:17,425 00:38:19,297 I want half of them relieved of duty, I want half of them relieved of duty,
682 00:38:19,340 00:38:21,603 or I play this tape for everyone Novak named, or I play this tape for everyone Novak named,
683 00:38:21,647 00:38:22,909 and you and I both know and you and I both know
684 00:38:22,952 00:38:26,129 that powerful people don't like trouble. that powerful people don't like trouble.
685 00:38:28,393 00:38:32,875 You have six months to resign, or I'll fire you publicly. You have six months to resign, or I'll fire you publicly.
686 00:38:32,919 00:38:34,529 Rowan's not gonna be prosecuted? Rowan's not gonna be prosecuted?
687 00:38:34,573 00:38:36,009 Even with the tape? Even with the tape?
688 00:38:36,052 00:38:37,663 Welcome to the world, Clarice. Welcome to the world, Clarice.
689 00:38:37,706 00:38:38,968 It's a long game. It's a long game.
690 00:38:39,012 00:38:41,754 I extract Rowan, someone takes his place. I extract Rowan, someone takes his place.
691 00:38:41,797 00:38:44,017 I have leverage thanks to you. I have leverage thanks to you.
692 00:38:44,060 00:38:46,062 We're getting rid of dozens of dirty cops, We're getting rid of dozens of dirty cops,
693 00:38:46,106 00:38:48,108 and in six months, Rowan will turn state's witness. and in six months, Rowan will turn state's witness.
694 00:38:48,151 00:38:49,718 How do you know that, ma'am? How do you know that, ma'am?
695 00:38:49,762 00:38:51,851 Because men like him always do. Because men like him always do.
696 00:38:51,894 00:38:54,027 Ma'am, real people, Ma'am, real people,
697 00:38:54,070 00:38:56,943 decent people have to live here in all this. decent people have to live here in all this.
698 00:38:56,986 00:39:00,599 And you're going to say it can't be a political decision. And you're going to say it can't be a political decision.
699 00:39:00,642 00:39:02,035 And I'm going to say And I'm going to say
700 00:39:02,078 00:39:04,951 everything's a political decision. everything's a political decision.
701 00:39:04,994 00:39:07,301 I'm taking this as a win. I'm taking this as a win.
702 00:39:07,345 00:39:08,607 You should, too. You should, too.
703 00:39:08,650 00:39:10,652 Do you want a ride back? Do you want a ride back?
704 00:39:10,696 00:39:12,741 I'm gonna go with my team. I'm gonna go with my team.
705 00:39:12,785 00:39:17,180 Earlier today, Agent Krendler requested I transfer you. Earlier today, Agent Krendler requested I transfer you.
706 00:39:18,138 00:39:22,621 He's concerned I have some residual trauma from Bill. He's concerned I have some residual trauma from Bill.
707 00:39:22,664 00:39:24,623 Is he right? Is he right?
708 00:39:24,666 00:39:26,538 Doesn't get in the way, ma'am. Doesn't get in the way, ma'am.
709 00:39:26,581 00:39:28,801 He withdrew the request. He withdrew the request.
710 00:39:30,063 00:39:33,371 You spoke of your father. You spoke of your father.
711 00:39:33,414 00:39:37,810 Catherine was close to her father, too. Catherine was close to her father, too.
712 00:39:37,853 00:39:41,466 My father was a lawman shot on duty. My father was a lawman shot on duty.
713 00:39:41,509 00:39:43,337 I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
714 00:39:43,381 00:39:45,208 I appreciate that. I appreciate that.
715 00:40:22,898 00:40:23,986 I wanted to say... I wanted to say...
716 00:40:24,030 00:40:25,858 I told you I had your back. I told you I had your back.
717 00:40:25,901 00:40:28,861 We all do. We all do.
718 00:40:28,904 00:40:30,079 Don't interrupt me. Don't interrupt me.
719 00:40:30,123 00:40:32,212 I was doing you a favor. I was doing you a favor.
720 00:40:32,255 00:40:35,650 Thanking me might make your head explode. Thanking me might make your head explode.