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1 00:02:52,297 00:02:53,469 Hey- Hey-
2 00:02:55,092 00:02:57,265 Can I get a water, please? Thank you. Can I get a water, please? Thank you.
3 00:03:00,806 00:03:02,900 Hi. ls Abby all right? Hi. ls Abby all right?
4 00:03:02,974 00:03:04,976 Yeah, yeah, yeah. All in all, it's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All in all, it's great.
5 00:03:06,311 00:03:10,032 - Thank you. - It's been just a pretty smooth six days? - Thank you. - It's been just a pretty smooth six days?
6 00:03:10,107 00:03:12,405 - Yeah? - So, other than our little... - Yeah? - So, other than our little...
7 00:03:12,776 00:03:13,948 What? What?
8 00:03:14,736 00:03:17,285 Well, our little dust-up. Well, our little dust-up.
9 00:03:18,156 00:03:21,080 - Oh, you mean my dust-up. - No, I didn't say that. - Oh, you mean my dust-up. - No, I didn't say that.
10 00:03:21,993 00:03:23,620 Well, you didn't have to say that. Well, you didn't have to say that.
11 00:03:23,745 00:03:26,624 I was wrong to question your decision to cancel the SAT tutor, I guess? I was wrong to question your decision to cancel the SAT tutor, I guess?
12 00:03:26,748 00:03:27,795 I didn't think you were wrong. I didn't think you were wrong.
13 00:03:27,916 00:03:30,635 Because who cares if Abigail doesn't get her scores up Because who cares if Abigail doesn't get her scores up
14 00:03:30,752 00:03:32,675 or if she goes to a college that requires more than a pulse. or if she goes to a college that requires more than a pulse.
15 00:03:32,796 00:03:34,013 Okay. Okay.
16 00:03:34,172 00:03:35,424 Do you see what you're doing here? Do you see what you're doing here?
17 00:03:35,507 00:03:38,977 I came here actually to propose that you and me and Bonnie and Ed have dinner together. I came here actually to propose that you and me and Bonnie and Ed have dinner together.
18 00:03:39,970 00:03:41,347 You wanted to propose that? You wanted to propose that?
19 00:03:41,638 00:03:45,768 Yeah, you know, to discuss the transitional parenting paradigm of Abigail. Yeah, you know, to discuss the transitional parenting paradigm of Abigail.
20 00:03:46,351 00:03:50,106 Make sure there aren't any glaring chasms. Like, you know, like this whole tutor thing. Make sure there aren't any glaring chasms. Like, you know, like this whole tutor thing.
21 00:03:50,522 00:03:53,526 To discuss the transitional parenting paradigms? To discuss the transitional parenting paradigms?
22 00:03:53,859 00:03:55,953 To make sure we don't have any glaring chasms? To make sure we don't have any glaring chasms?
23 00:03:56,486 00:03:59,990 Who talks like that, Nathan? Why don't you just say this is Bonnie's idea? Who talks like that, Nathan? Why don't you just say this is Bonnie's idea?
24 00:04:00,157 00:04:02,376 Yeah, okay, yeah. It's Bonnie's idea. Yeah, okay, yeah. It's Bonnie's idea.
25 00:04:04,202 00:04:06,671 Personally, I think the idea of us all getting along is ridiculous. Personally, I think the idea of us all getting along is ridiculous.
26 00:04:06,913 00:04:09,712 But, you know, that's one of the things that really defines being a husband But, you know, that's one of the things that really defines being a husband
27 00:04:09,833 00:04:11,961 is your willingness to go along with your wife's fucked-up ideas. is your willingness to go along with your wife's fucked-up ideas.
28 00:04:12,043 00:04:13,090 - Give me a break. - Like, by way of example, - Give me a break. - Like, by way of example,
29 00:04:13,170 00:04:14,296 when I was with you, you remember? when I was with you, you remember?
30 00:04:14,379 00:04:16,598 I paid $9,000 to ground the house I paid $9,000 to ground the house
31 00:04:16,673 00:04:19,927 against electromagnetic fields so that we all didn't get brain cancer. against electromagnetic fields so that we all didn't get brain cancer.
32 00:04:20,010 00:04:21,102 Or the time when we went camping? Or the time when we went camping?
33 00:04:21,178 00:04:24,227 I said, "Yeah, yeah, fucking mosquitos bite the shit out of me." Doesn't matter. I said, "Yeah, yeah, fucking mosquitos bite the shit out of me." Doesn't matter.
34 00:04:24,347 00:04:25,769 As long as our skin doesn't come in touch with DEET. As long as our skin doesn't come in touch with DEET.
35 00:04:25,849 00:04:27,226 What is your point, Nathan? What is your point, Nathan?
36 00:04:27,350 00:04:30,024 My point is, I did a lot of fucked-up things in our marriage, My point is, I did a lot of fucked-up things in our marriage,
37 00:04:30,103 00:04:31,355 a lot of hoops I jumped through for you, a lot of hoops I jumped through for you,
38 00:04:31,438 00:04:33,406 and now I'm doing those same things for Bonnie. and now I'm doing those same things for Bonnie.
39 00:04:33,523 00:04:35,275 Personally, I'd rather shove an electric eel up my ass Personally, I'd rather shove an electric eel up my ass
40 00:04:35,358 00:04:36,826 and have it gnaw through my intestines and have it gnaw through my intestines
41 00:04:36,902 00:04:40,577 than sit down with you and fucking psycho Ed. But you know what, I'll do it. than sit down with you and fucking psycho Ed. But you know what, I'll do it.
42 00:04:40,864 00:04:44,209 'Cause that's the kind of fucking fucked-up fuckshit father I am. 'Cause that's the kind of fucking fucked-up fuckshit father I am.
43 00:04:45,035 00:04:46,287 How about that? How about that?
44 00:04:46,703 00:04:48,296 The man is losing his mind. The man is losing his mind.
45 00:04:48,872 00:04:50,089 Can you believe it? Can you believe it?
46 00:04:50,916 00:04:52,634 So, did you schedule the dinner? So, did you schedule the dinner?
47 00:04:52,709 00:04:54,711 Yes! I mean, a couples dinner? Yes! I mean, a couples dinner?
48 00:04:54,795 00:04:57,548 He would've never done that when we were together. Never. He would've never done that when we were together. Never.
49 00:04:57,631 00:05:00,510 But for Bonnie, he's Mr. Fucking Sacrifice. But for Bonnie, he's Mr. Fucking Sacrifice.
50 00:05:00,592 00:05:03,345 Why don't you bottle up some of that anger and put it to good use? Why don't you bottle up some of that anger and put it to good use?
51 00:05:03,428 00:05:04,475 What do you mean? What do you mean?
52 00:05:04,763 00:05:08,233 Mmm. I think I can use you and Joseph at the meeting with the mayor tomorrow. Mmm. I think I can use you and Joseph at the meeting with the mayor tomorrow.
53 00:05:09,976 00:05:13,276 Joseph can speak to the content of the show and we could use your passion. Joseph can speak to the content of the show and we could use your passion.
54 00:05:13,897 00:05:16,241 I cannot possibly thank you enough for this, Celeste. I cannot possibly thank you enough for this, Celeste.
55 00:05:16,566 00:05:19,240 - I haven't done anything yet. - Thank you. - I haven't done anything yet. - Thank you.
56 00:05:19,903 00:05:23,248 - I'm actually having fun. - Thank you, thank you, thank you. - I'm actually having fun. - Thank you, thank you, thank you.
57 00:05:23,406 00:05:26,501 Anyway, you want to meet at Blue-Blues in the morning? After drop-off? Anyway, you want to meet at Blue-Blues in the morning? After drop-off?
58 00:05:26,660 00:05:28,754 - I'll brief you. - Okay. Night, honey. - I'll brief you. - Okay. Night, honey.
59 00:05:28,912 00:05:30,755 Mmm-hmm. Night-night. Mmm-hmm. Night-night.
60 00:05:33,750 00:05:34,797 A briefing? A briefing?
61 00:05:38,004 00:05:41,133 The mayor is trying to shut down this production of Avenue Q The mayor is trying to shut down this production of Avenue Q
62 00:05:41,258 00:05:43,761 at the community theater because it's not appropriate. at the community theater because it's not appropriate.
63 00:05:43,969 00:05:45,266 So... So...
64 00:05:45,971 00:05:47,848 I told Madeline I'd help her out. I told Madeline I'd help her out.
65 00:05:49,432 00:05:50,775 Helping her out how? Helping her out how?
66 00:05:52,102 00:05:53,274 Legal help? Legal help?
67 00:05:54,104 00:05:55,447 Yeah. Yeah.
68 00:05:57,983 00:06:01,658 - Are you practicing law again? - Not practicing law, just going to a meeting. - Are you practicing law again? - Not practicing law, just going to a meeting.
69 00:06:02,529 00:06:04,827 Because the town of Monterey can't afford to hire an attorney. Because the town of Monterey can't afford to hire an attorney.
70 00:06:04,948 00:06:08,168 The town of Monterey is the one that's trying to shut the production down. The town of Monterey is the one that's trying to shut the production down.
71 00:06:08,451 00:06:09,623 Okay. Okay.
72 00:06:12,163 00:06:14,632 How come we didn't have a conversation about this? How come we didn't have a conversation about this?
73 00:06:16,626 00:06:19,300 If you were here long enough to have a conversation... If you were here long enough to have a conversation...
74 00:06:19,838 00:06:21,590 After the talk shifts from the kids, After the talk shifts from the kids,
75 00:06:21,673 00:06:24,472 you're off packing your bag for another business trip. you're off packing your bag for another business trip.
76 00:06:29,139 00:06:30,561 You gonna hit me now? You gonna hit me now?
77 00:06:32,809 00:06:34,311 Do you want me to hit you, Celeste? Do you want me to hit you, Celeste?
78 00:06:37,898 00:06:39,150 Here we go again. Here we go again.
79 00:06:41,026 00:06:42,573 Sometimes I wonder. Sometimes I wonder.
80 00:06:54,998 00:06:56,341 Ed? Ed?
81 00:06:57,334 00:06:58,506 Ed? Ed?
82 00:07:14,935 00:07:16,528 No,no,no,no,no. No,no,no,no,no.
83 00:07:25,111 00:07:26,863 Okay, honey, you're gonna wake up Chloe. Okay, honey, you're gonna wake up Chloe.
84 00:07:31,368 00:07:32,711 Okay, Ed. Okay, Ed.
85 00:07:39,918 00:07:40,965 That's great. That's great.
86 00:07:45,256 00:07:46,382 Let's wrap it up. Let's wrap it up.
87 00:07:54,808 00:07:57,982 The neighbors actually heard them practicing for the talent show. The neighbors actually heard them practicing for the talent show.
88 00:07:58,061 00:08:00,029 They came to Trivia Night with their game faces on. They came to Trivia Night with their game faces on.
89 00:08:00,105 00:08:03,405 We're talking about viciously competitive people. We're talking about viciously competitive people.
90 00:08:03,900 00:08:07,575 - You really are a nutjob, you know that? - Yeah, but I'm your nutjob. - You really are a nutjob, you know that? - Yeah, but I'm your nutjob.
91 00:08:07,654 00:08:11,079 - That's true, as opposed to... - What? - That's true, as opposed to... - What?
92 00:08:11,908 00:08:15,003 That meeting with Nathan, honey? He wants us all to have dinner. That meeting with Nathan, honey? He wants us all to have dinner.
93 00:08:15,078 00:08:17,251 You, me, Bonnie, Nathan, You, me, Bonnie, Nathan,
94 00:08:17,414 00:08:19,587 all getting together, exchanging niceties all getting together, exchanging niceties
95 00:08:19,916 00:08:22,339 and, what, group-talking our parenting skills? and, what, group-talking our parenting skills?
96 00:08:22,752 00:08:25,301 Well, could be a good idea. Well, could be a good idea.
97 00:08:26,297 00:08:27,844 Are you kidding me? It's fucking Bonnie. Are you kidding me? It's fucking Bonnie.
98 00:08:27,924 00:08:31,224 She probably just wants to show off and serve us organic quinoa She probably just wants to show off and serve us organic quinoa
99 00:08:31,302 00:08:34,681 with her kale she raised in her sustainable vertical garden. with her kale she raised in her sustainable vertical garden.
100 00:08:34,764 00:08:36,858 Probably while she was meditating. Probably while she was meditating.
101 00:08:36,933 00:08:40,858 So help me God, if she so much as teaches me how to peel a potato, So help me God, if she so much as teaches me how to peel a potato,
102 00:08:40,937 00:08:42,530 I'm gonna go for her fucking throat. I'm gonna go for her fucking throat.
103 00:08:42,605 00:08:44,607 That might not be a good idea. That might not be a good idea.
104 00:08:45,775 00:08:47,448 Oh, what about Suspicious Minds? Oh, what about Suspicious Minds?
105 00:08:47,527 00:08:49,279 Pocketful of Rainbows. Pocketful of Rainbows.
106 00:08:49,529 00:08:53,124 Oh, no. Honey, you've got to go to bed. You never sleep. Oh, no. Honey, you've got to go to bed. You never sleep.
107 00:08:53,533 00:08:55,410 You need to pick a song no one else will sing. You need to pick a song no one else will sing.
108 00:08:55,493 00:08:58,121 - Well, it's not even listed, honey. - Exactly. - Well, it's not even listed, honey. - Exactly.
109 00:09:01,124 00:09:02,125 Ed. Ed.
110 00:09:22,687 00:09:23,813 Kind of nice. Kind of nice.
111 00:09:26,316 00:09:28,068 We're gonna stay up all night. We're gonna stay up all night.
112 00:09:28,151 00:09:30,654 And not go to school tomorrow And not go to school tomorrow
113 00:09:31,196 00:09:32,823 - Am I dreaming right now? - Yeah! - Am I dreaming right now? - Yeah!
114 00:10:22,080 00:10:23,127 Sweetie. Sweetie.
115 00:10:26,751 00:10:28,424 You were sleepwalking, baby. You were sleepwalking, baby.
116 00:10:34,050 00:10:36,644 What happened between you and my dad? What happened between you and my dad?
117 00:10:38,388 00:10:39,560 You can tell me. You can tell me.
118 00:10:46,062 00:10:51,068 You guys met one night and then... That was it. He was gone? You guys met one night and then... That was it. He was gone?
119 00:10:54,654 00:10:55,826 Yeah. Yeah.
120 00:10:56,281 00:10:59,751 You don't have to look for him for me, if that's what you're doing. You don't have to look for him for me, if that's what you're doing.
121 00:11:01,161 00:11:02,413 I'm okay, Mom. I'm okay, Mom.
122 00:11:03,621 00:11:05,089 We'll be fine. We'll be fine.
123 00:11:06,082 00:11:07,425 Scoot over. Scoot over.
124 00:11:15,508 00:11:16,930 I love you. I love you.
125 00:11:17,260 00:11:20,139 - I love you more. - I said it first. - I love you more. - I said it first.
126 00:11:20,513 00:11:22,106 I mean it more. I mean it more.
127 00:11:24,767 00:11:27,486 I love you more than all of those stars combined. I love you more than all of those stars combined.
128 00:11:28,188 00:11:31,192 I love you more than infinity times infinity. I love you more than infinity times infinity.
129 00:12:02,138 00:12:03,640 I'm concerned. I'm concerned.
130 00:12:04,974 00:12:06,647 - About? - Your stress level. - About? - Your stress level.
131 00:12:08,645 00:12:09,988 I'm fine. I'm fine.
132 00:12:11,898 00:12:13,491 Well, you couldn't get pregnant. Well, you couldn't get pregnant.
133 00:12:14,317 00:12:16,786 When you were working, the doctors all agreed that it had to do with... When you were working, the doctors all agreed that it had to do with...
134 00:12:16,861 00:12:19,159 - I'm not trying to get pregnant. - No, I'm just saying. - I'm not trying to get pregnant. - No, I'm just saying.
135 00:12:19,822 00:12:22,325 - The anxiety. - Yeah, I know my history. - The anxiety. - Yeah, I know my history.
136 00:12:24,494 00:12:26,246 I'm not trying to get pregnant. I'm not trying to get pregnant.
137 00:12:27,664 00:12:30,634 I'm just trying to help out a friend. What's the big problem? Hmm? I'm just trying to help out a friend. What's the big problem? Hmm?
138 00:12:30,708 00:12:32,927 Why is it such a big deal for you? Why is it such a big deal for you?
139 00:12:33,002 00:12:34,345 No, it's not. No, it's not.
140 00:12:37,173 00:12:38,720 I'm just looking out for you, Sparkles. I'm just looking out for you, Sparkles.
141 00:12:40,760 00:12:43,764 If you go to pieces again, who's gonna put you back together? If you go to pieces again, who's gonna put you back together?
142 00:12:44,764 00:12:46,061 Madeline? Madeline?
143 00:12:47,517 00:12:49,565 I'm the one who's always there for you. I'm the one who's always there for you.
144 00:12:50,520 00:12:51,521 Always will be. Always will be.
145 00:12:51,604 00:12:54,574 It's just difficult when you try to control me. It's just difficult when you try to control me.
146 00:12:55,066 00:12:56,864 Yeah, well, the idea of you resuming your career... Yeah, well, the idea of you resuming your career...
147 00:12:56,943 00:12:58,866 I'm not trying to resume my career. I'm not trying to resume my career.
148 00:13:05,368 00:13:06,870 I want to have another baby. I want to have another baby.
149 00:13:08,538 00:13:09,755 - A daughter. - What? - A daughter. - What?
150 00:13:12,542 00:13:15,045 It's too late. You know I can't. It's too late. You know I can't.
151 00:13:15,545 00:13:17,218 It's not too late. It's not too late.
152 00:13:18,131 00:13:19,257 Hey. Hey.
153 00:13:19,716 00:13:21,218 - What are you... - Hey. - What are you... - Hey.
154 00:13:22,885 00:13:24,228 Can you imagine? Can you imagine?
155 00:13:25,471 00:13:27,144 Having a little girl of our own? Having a little girl of our own?
156 00:13:31,394 00:13:33,067 Being your husband... Being your husband...
157 00:13:33,896 00:13:35,614 Max and Josh's dad... Max and Josh's dad...
158 00:13:36,733 00:13:38,485 Sometimes I wish we had 10 kids. Sometimes I wish we had 10 kids.
159 00:13:40,570 00:13:42,743 Well, that was sounding romantic. Well, that was sounding romantic.
160 00:13:47,327 00:13:49,421 Let's have that little girl tonight. Let's have that little girl tonight.
161 00:13:50,496 00:13:52,590 Come on, I've got a busy day. Come on, I've got a busy day.
162 00:13:52,957 00:13:55,927 Come on. What are you doing? Come on. What are you doing?
163 00:13:56,586 00:13:58,429 I got to get up early. I got to get up early.
164 00:13:59,839 00:14:01,182 Yeah? Yeah?
165 00:14:03,176 00:14:04,428 Yeah, you're probably right. Yeah, you're probably right.
166 00:14:07,597 00:14:09,941 Yeah, you're right. Let's just call it a night, then. Yeah, you're right. Let's just call it a night, then.
167 00:14:23,196 00:14:26,791 You think you're so irresistible, don't you? You think you're so irresistible, don't you?
168 00:14:32,955 00:14:34,298 I love you so much. I love you so much.
169 00:14:38,002 00:14:41,506 Yes. Ed likes to dress up in costumes. Yes. Ed likes to dress up in costumes.
170 00:14:41,631 00:14:43,133 Presley? Presley?
171 00:14:43,216 00:14:45,059 I think he has a fetish or something. I think he has a fetish or something.
172 00:14:45,134 00:14:49,640 One night, I came home and he had a full vampire costume on. One night, I came home and he had a full vampire costume on.
173 00:14:49,722 00:14:52,726 With fangs and everything, and an accent and... With fangs and everything, and an accent and...
174 00:14:52,809 00:14:56,564 I think he thought it was sexy and it would spice up our sex life. I think he thought it was sexy and it would spice up our sex life.
175 00:14:56,646 00:14:58,148 It didn't? It didn't?
176 00:14:58,231 00:15:01,155 Well, I mean, it was funny. Well, I mean, it was funny.
177 00:15:01,818 00:15:04,367 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
178 00:15:04,487 00:15:06,535 I don't know why I'm talking about sex so much. I don't know why I'm talking about sex so much.
179 00:15:06,656 00:15:08,704 Torn, when you get a chance, honey, Torn, when you get a chance, honey,
180 00:15:08,825 00:15:10,827 can I get something puffy with chocolate on it? can I get something puffy with chocolate on it?
181 00:15:10,952 00:15:12,329 - You got it. - Thank you. - You got it. - Thank you.
182 00:15:14,330 00:15:16,332 Why don't you mean to talk about sex? Why don't you mean to talk about sex?
183 00:15:18,960 00:15:21,509 - No reason. -'Cause I was raped? - No reason. -'Cause I was raped?
184 00:15:22,380 00:15:23,723 Well... Well...
185 00:15:23,840 00:15:25,934 I mean, I'm trying to be sensitive, honey. I mean, I'm trying to be sensitive, honey.
186 00:15:26,008 00:15:27,931 I don't always know the right thing to say. I don't always know the right thing to say.
187 00:15:28,010 00:15:30,354 - But I certainly don't judge you. - I know. - But I certainly don't judge you. - I know.
188 00:15:31,013 00:15:32,686 It's actually really weird. It's actually really weird.
189 00:15:33,182 00:15:35,355 Ever since I told you about Ziggy's dad, Ever since I told you about Ziggy's dad,
190 00:15:36,018 00:15:38,692 it's like this thing that's been happening to my body. it's like this thing that's been happening to my body.
191 00:15:39,188 00:15:41,907 Like it's wanting to wake up again or something. Like it's wanting to wake up again or something.
192 00:15:43,192 00:15:46,196 I always knew that my reaction to that night had been too big. I always knew that my reaction to that night had been too big.
193 00:15:47,155 00:15:51,160 I pretended like it meant nothing, so, of course, it came to mean everything. I pretended like it meant nothing, so, of course, it came to mean everything.
194 00:15:51,659 00:15:54,788 But it's like I had to say those stupid words that he said to me out loud to you But it's like I had to say those stupid words that he said to me out loud to you
195 00:15:54,871 00:15:56,123 for them to lose their power. for them to lose their power.
196 00:15:56,205 00:15:59,049 Like keeping them a secret helped them retain their power. Like keeping them a secret helped them retain their power.
197 00:16:00,042 00:16:02,545 So ever since then, I just keep finding myself looking at men. So ever since then, I just keep finding myself looking at men.
198 00:16:03,212 00:16:04,555 - It's weird. - Really? - It's weird. - Really?
199 00:16:04,672 00:16:08,722 But not in, like, a sexual way. Like more just in an appreciative way, maybe? But not in, like, a sexual way. Like more just in an appreciative way, maybe?
200 00:16:09,051 00:16:10,519 Sensual way? Mmm-hmm. Sensual way? Mmm-hmm.
201 00:16:11,888 00:16:14,107 That guy's arm over there, with the tattoos. That guy's arm over there, with the tattoos.
202 00:16:20,354 00:16:23,949 I don't know, then my mind takes over and takes me back to that stupid night. I don't know, then my mind takes over and takes me back to that stupid night.
203 00:16:24,066 00:16:27,036 There's no way you could've known he was such a fucking sociopath. There's no way you could've known he was such a fucking sociopath.
204 00:16:27,111 00:16:29,785 - Fuck, yeah. Psychopath. - Dickhead. - Fuck, yeah. Psychopath. - Dickhead.
205 00:16:29,906 00:16:32,034 - Asshole. - Abominable pig. - Asshole. - Abominable pig.
206 00:16:32,450 00:16:33,952 I'd kill him if I could. I'd kill him if I could.
207 00:16:34,911 00:16:37,881 Well, I mean, I wouldn't say that loudly in public spaces. Well, I mean, I wouldn't say that loudly in public spaces.
208 00:16:37,955 00:16:39,753 I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
209 00:16:40,374 00:16:41,591 Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
210 00:16:42,919 00:16:44,717 You really thought any more about counseling? You really thought any more about counseling?
211 00:16:44,795 00:16:45,887 No. No.
212 00:16:47,924 00:16:51,519 But I have been thinking about something, though. Don't get mad at me. But I have been thinking about something, though. Don't get mad at me.
213 00:16:51,594 00:16:53,267 I just... I just...
214 00:16:53,387 00:16:56,015 I don't know. It's really hard. I think maybe we need to move back. I don't know. It's really hard. I think maybe we need to move back.
215 00:16:56,098 00:16:59,819 - No! - Well, Ziggy's just not happy here. I can tell. - No! - Well, Ziggy's just not happy here. I can tell.
216 00:16:59,936 00:17:01,108 - No, honey. - Hey. - No, honey. - Hey.
217 00:17:02,063 00:17:03,064 How we doing? How we doing?
218 00:17:03,147 00:17:06,242 - Is this your go-to-meeting outfit? - Yes. This is it. - Is this your go-to-meeting outfit? - Yes. This is it.
219 00:17:06,317 00:17:07,489 Wow! Wow!
220 00:17:08,110 00:17:10,613 - Is there a cape under there? - Would you stop it? - Is there a cape under there? - Would you stop it?
221 00:17:11,280 00:17:13,078 - You just have to wait and see, won't you? - Mmm. - You just have to wait and see, won't you? - Mmm.
222 00:17:13,157 00:17:14,204 We are gonna win. We are gonna win.
223 00:17:14,283 00:17:19,210 So, uh, in breaking news, madam just told me that she's thinking about moving. So, uh, in breaking news, madam just told me that she's thinking about moving.
224 00:17:19,288 00:17:21,382 - I'm just thinking about it. - What? No. - I'm just thinking about it. - What? No.
225 00:17:21,457 00:17:23,130 - No freaking way. - Oh. - No freaking way. - Oh.
226 00:17:23,834 00:17:27,555 Come on, don't give in. Ziggy didn't do it. Do not let them get to you. Come on, don't give in. Ziggy didn't do it. Do not let them get to you.
227 00:17:27,630 00:17:29,473 I'm not giving in. I just... I'm not giving in. I just...
228 00:17:30,091 00:17:33,391 I don't know, I need to do what's best for my kid. I don't know what that is, but... I don't know, I need to do what's best for my kid. I don't know what that is, but...
229 00:17:33,469 00:17:35,142 What about what's best for us? What about what's best for us?
230 00:17:36,264 00:17:38,813 - We would miss you. - We would miss you. - We would miss you. - We would miss you.
231 00:17:39,475 00:17:41,898 - You're gonna make me cry. - And we're gonna win this case. - You're gonna make me cry. - And we're gonna win this case.
232 00:17:41,978 00:17:43,070 I'm telling you. I'm telling you.
233 00:17:43,145 00:17:46,024 I think the mayor's gonna like your argument. I think the mayor's gonna like your argument.
234 00:17:46,148 00:17:47,320 Would you stop it? Would you stop it?
235 00:17:48,317 00:17:51,412 We've had who knows how many orientations. Nobody ever got choked. We've had who knows how many orientations. Nobody ever got choked.
236 00:17:51,487 00:17:54,582 - Who are the new variables here? - Jane Chapman and her son Ziggy. - Who are the new variables here? - Jane Chapman and her son Ziggy.
237 00:17:54,657 00:17:57,126 Whose eyes are abnormally far apart. Whose eyes are abnormally far apart.
238 00:17:57,368 00:17:58,335 A sign of a sociopath. A sign of a sociopath.
239 00:17:59,120 00:18:00,417 Are we gonna make some changes today? Are we gonna make some changes today?
240 00:18:01,664 00:18:04,008 That's right. We're gonna start with uppercuts. That's right. We're gonna start with uppercuts.
241 00:18:04,959 00:18:06,836 And one. And one.
242 00:18:07,461 00:18:08,508 Extend those arms. Extend those arms.
243 00:18:08,629 00:18:11,348 Two, one. First position. Two, one. First position.
244 00:18:14,844 00:18:18,565 One and serve the platter. In, out. One and serve the platter. In, out.
245 00:18:20,683 00:18:22,526 Out. And lift. Out. And lift.
246 00:18:26,230 00:18:29,985 And Whip! Whip! Whip! And Whip! Whip! Whip!
247 00:18:31,027 00:18:32,324 Other side. Other side.
248 00:18:40,870 00:18:41,871 Hey- Hey-
249 00:18:41,996 00:18:46,046 God, I just love sweat on women. God, I just love sweat on women.
250 00:18:47,543 00:18:50,843 Sorry, that was more of a general observation. Sorry, that was more of a general observation.
251 00:18:50,921 00:18:53,970 I'm going to assume that you're not here to talk about physical fitness. I'm going to assume that you're not here to talk about physical fitness.
252 00:18:54,050 00:18:57,896 Yeah. Madeline told me about the dinner you and Nathan are proposing, Yeah. Madeline told me about the dinner you and Nathan are proposing,
253 00:18:58,012 00:19:00,891 which I think is potentially a good idea. which I think is potentially a good idea.
254 00:19:01,515 00:19:02,732 But... But...
255 00:19:03,184 00:19:05,232 Well, Nathan and Madeline. Well, Nathan and Madeline.
256 00:19:06,187 00:19:09,407 That's a pretty volatile cocktail. That's a pretty volatile cocktail.
257 00:19:10,733 00:19:13,236 - What about you, Ed? - What, what? - What about you, Ed? - What, what?
258 00:19:13,569 00:19:15,742 You've been a little aggressive as of late. You've been a little aggressive as of late.
259 00:19:16,906 00:19:20,581 Yeah, well, I'm only trying to be supportive of Madeline. Yeah, well, I'm only trying to be supportive of Madeline.
260 00:19:21,202 00:19:23,421 She was kind of abandoned by her dad, you know? She was kind of abandoned by her dad, you know?
261 00:19:23,537 00:19:24,834 He made time for her brothers. He made time for her brothers.
262 00:19:24,914 00:19:27,508 And she felt abandoned by Nathan, and now Abigail. And she felt abandoned by Nathan, and now Abigail.
263 00:19:27,583 00:19:31,087 It's like a triple whammy. She's in a pretty fragile state. It's like a triple whammy. She's in a pretty fragile state.
264 00:19:32,755 00:19:34,598 You know, we all have baggage, Ed. You know, we all have baggage, Ed.
265 00:19:35,091 00:19:36,434 What do you mean? What do you mean?
266 00:19:38,469 00:19:39,937 Nothing. Nothing.
267 00:19:44,100 00:19:47,445 It doesn't help, by the way, that you're this seemingly-perfect stepmom. It doesn't help, by the way, that you're this seemingly-perfect stepmom.
268 00:19:48,479 00:19:50,402 Anyway, we're going to do this dinner, Anyway, we're going to do this dinner,
269 00:19:50,481 00:19:54,531 but I think it'll be up to you and me to keep things civil. but I think it'll be up to you and me to keep things civil.
270 00:19:54,610 00:19:55,953 - I hear you. - All right. - I hear you. - All right.
271 00:19:58,114 00:20:03,245 Oh, also, it's probably best if you don't give Madeline any kind of advice, Oh, also, it's probably best if you don't give Madeline any kind of advice,
272 00:20:03,661 00:20:05,959 like how to peel a potato. like how to peel a potato.
273 00:20:08,749 00:20:09,796 Okay. Okay.
274 00:20:17,842 00:20:19,264 Otter Bay Otter Bay
275 00:20:19,969 00:20:23,644 Together we stand strong Otter Bay Together we stand strong Otter Bay
276 00:20:23,764 00:20:27,143 Come on and sing along beautiful Come on and sing along beautiful
277 00:20:27,601 00:20:32,448 We learn arithmetic Science and mathematics We learn arithmetic Science and mathematics
278 00:20:32,815 00:20:34,863 Otter in the bay Otter in the bay
279 00:20:35,151 00:20:36,448 Amabella. Amabella.
280 00:20:49,790 00:20:51,963 You weren't singing. ls there a reason? You weren't singing. ls there a reason?
281 00:20:52,668 00:20:54,545 No. I just didn't feel like it. No. I just didn't feel like it.
282 00:20:54,837 00:20:57,340 Oh, but you typically love the singalongs. Oh, but you typically love the singalongs.
283 00:20:59,842 00:21:02,015 Seems like something's a little wrong, sweetie. Seems like something's a little wrong, sweetie.
284 00:21:03,679 00:21:05,522 Are you sure you're not upset about something? Are you sure you're not upset about something?
285 00:21:06,515 00:21:07,858 You can tell me. You can tell me.
286 00:21:07,975 00:21:09,318 I promise I will keep it a secret. I promise I will keep it a secret.
287 00:21:13,189 00:21:15,191 How are things with you and Ziggy? How are things with you and Ziggy?
288 00:21:15,858 00:21:18,737 Fine. He's nice. We're friends. Fine. He's nice. We're friends.
289 00:21:19,195 00:21:20,367 That's great. That's great.
290 00:21:20,905 00:21:23,158 What do you and Ziggy like to do together? What do you and Ziggy like to do together?
291 00:21:24,408 00:21:26,206 We just like playing and stuff. We just like playing and stuff.
292 00:21:27,203 00:21:28,921 And he's nice to you? And he's nice to you?
293 00:21:30,039 00:21:31,211 Yes. Yes.
294 00:21:33,042 00:21:34,259 Amabella. Amabella.
295 00:21:35,878 00:21:37,676 Is somebody still hurting you? Is somebody still hurting you?
296 00:21:40,716 00:21:42,218 I found Ziggy's father. I found Ziggy's father.
297 00:21:43,219 00:21:45,563 - You found him? - Well, I think I found him. - You found him? - Well, I think I found him.
298 00:21:45,679 00:21:49,479 But it's Saxon Baker. He's an interior designer in San Luis Obispo. But it's Saxon Baker. He's an interior designer in San Luis Obispo.
299 00:21:49,558 00:21:51,435 Hold on, didn't she say his name was Saxon Banks? Hold on, didn't she say his name was Saxon Banks?
300 00:21:51,560 00:21:52,982 - Well, I think maybe he only gave... - Maddie. - Well, I think maybe he only gave... - Maddie.
301 00:21:53,062 00:21:55,986 ...his real first name. She said he was an architect. ...his real first name. She said he was an architect.
302 00:21:56,065 00:21:58,318 But sometimes interior designers say they're architects. But sometimes interior designers say they're architects.
303 00:21:58,400 00:22:00,994 - Oh, this is not good. - Thanks so much for helping us out. - Oh, this is not good. - Thanks so much for helping us out.
304 00:22:01,070 00:22:03,949 - But I'm having second thoughts about this. - What? - But I'm having second thoughts about this. - What?
305 00:22:04,073 00:22:07,373 Look, even should we win this battle, we make an enemy of the mayor's office. Look, even should we win this battle, we make an enemy of the mayor's office.
306 00:22:07,451 00:22:09,749 - But we have all of our funding. - Long-term, it's not a good idea. - But we have all of our funding. - Long-term, it's not a good idea.
307 00:22:09,870 00:22:11,042 And we're starting in two weeks, Joseph. And we're starting in two weeks, Joseph.
308 00:22:11,121 00:22:13,340 Yeah, but what about the next production? And the one after that? Yeah, but what about the next production? And the one after that?
309 00:22:13,415 00:22:15,918 Listen to me, do you think Avenue Q is worth fighting for? Listen to me, do you think Avenue Q is worth fighting for?
310 00:22:16,627 00:22:18,595 - Yeah. - Well, then what are we talking about? - Yeah. - Well, then what are we talking about?
311 00:22:18,712 00:22:20,589 The future of the theater itself. The future of the theater itself.
312 00:22:20,714 00:22:23,342 If we piss off the mayor, and I've been told he pisses off easily... If we piss off the mayor, and I've been told he pisses off easily...
313 00:22:23,425 00:22:24,768 I can keep it civil. I can keep it civil.
314 00:22:28,222 00:22:29,439 Oh, no. Oh, no.
315 00:22:30,307 00:22:31,604 Or maybe not. Or maybe not.
316 00:22:33,811 00:22:38,442 Look, I'm not looking to, like, "chill" artistic expression. Look, I'm not looking to, like, "chill" artistic expression.
317 00:22:38,607 00:22:39,984 I hear it's a great play. I hear it's a great play.
318 00:22:40,442 00:22:42,786 That said, the puppets fuck. That said, the puppets fuck.
319 00:22:43,279 00:22:45,077 We can't have puppets fucking in Monterey. We can't have puppets fucking in Monterey.
320 00:22:45,155 00:22:46,281 May I be heard? May I be heard?
321 00:22:46,407 00:22:52,130 There is one scene, and one scene only, where two of the puppets simulate sex. There is one scene, and one scene only, where two of the puppets simulate sex.
322 00:22:52,454 00:22:54,297 - There's no nudity. - Yeah? - There's no nudity. - Yeah?
323 00:22:55,249 00:22:56,671 Naked puppets don't bother me. Naked puppets don't bother me.
324 00:22:57,334 00:23:00,429 Fucking puppets, on the other hand... It's vulgar. Fucking puppets, on the other hand... It's vulgar.
325 00:23:00,838 00:23:05,139 Even if it were, you'd still have to prove that it has no legal, artistic or literary value. Even if it were, you'd still have to prove that it has no legal, artistic or literary value.
326 00:23:06,010 00:23:07,432 I'm not talking about legals. I'm not talking about legals.
327 00:23:07,511 00:23:10,014 We're going to have to talk about the... We're going to have to talk about the...
328 00:23:10,848 00:23:15,103 To shut down a show simply because it makes you uncomfortable To shut down a show simply because it makes you uncomfortable
329 00:23:15,185 00:23:17,563 two weeks before it's about to open, I don't think that that's... two weeks before it's about to open, I don't think that that's...
330 00:23:17,646 00:23:19,193 Okay, look, look. Okay, look, look.
331 00:23:19,607 00:23:22,201 I'm new to the whole controversy, okay? I'm new to the whole controversy, okay?
332 00:23:22,818 00:23:25,992 It's just been brought to my attention, mostly by concerned parents. It's just been brought to my attention, mostly by concerned parents.
333 00:23:26,113 00:23:29,993 So I'm bringing a fresh eye to this thing, you know? So I'm bringing a fresh eye to this thing, you know?
334 00:23:30,326 00:23:33,330 You can tell me I'm full of shit. It wouldn't be the first. You can tell me I'm full of shit. It wouldn't be the first.
335 00:23:34,663 00:23:37,462 But from my perspective, the whole point of the theater But from my perspective, the whole point of the theater
336 00:23:37,541 00:23:39,339 is to bring community together. is to bring community together.
337 00:23:40,002 00:23:41,219 - You know, to entertain... - Mmm-hmm. - You know, to entertain... - Mmm-hmm.
338 00:23:41,337 00:23:44,056 ...to have an affirming effect on society. ...to have an affirming effect on society.
339 00:23:46,216 00:23:49,311 This thing here? It's already divisive. This thing here? It's already divisive.
340 00:23:49,637 00:23:50,763 True. True.
341 00:23:50,846 00:23:53,850 And I'm certainly not trying to connect the two, but, uh, And I'm certainly not trying to connect the two, but, uh,
342 00:23:54,183 00:23:57,528 there are zoning laws that prohibit sex shops and strip clubs... there are zoning laws that prohibit sex shops and strip clubs...
343 00:23:57,686 00:24:00,314 - Come on. This is hardly that. - Yes, but... - Come on. This is hardly that. - Yes, but...
344 00:24:00,397 00:24:04,368 This play deals with love, and racism, and same-sex marriage, This play deals with love, and racism, and same-sex marriage,
345 00:24:04,485 00:24:05,862 which are all redeeming themes, which are all redeeming themes,
346 00:24:06,487 00:24:08,990 conversations this community should be having. conversations this community should be having.
347 00:24:09,239 00:24:12,709 - I mean, and if you want to continue to have... - Puppets fuck. - I mean, and if you want to continue to have... - Puppets fuck.
348 00:24:14,203 00:24:15,546 You are adorable. You are adorable.
349 00:24:16,580 00:24:19,709 May I, uh, speak for a moment? May I, uh, speak for a moment?
350 00:24:19,833 00:24:23,838 Not as a member of the Monterey Planning Board, but, really, as a mom? Not as a member of the Monterey Planning Board, but, really, as a mom?
351 00:24:24,588 00:24:27,558 I think we can agree that the world has gone to hell, right? I think we can agree that the world has gone to hell, right?
352 00:24:27,841 00:24:30,185 I mean, we're living in a time where our little ones I mean, we're living in a time where our little ones
353 00:24:30,260 00:24:33,264 have lockdown drills at school because of gun violence. have lockdown drills at school because of gun violence.
354 00:24:34,223 00:24:36,521 They don't even feel safe in their own classroom. They don't even feel safe in their own classroom.
355 00:24:37,184 00:24:41,906 So what if we brought back a little good, old-fashioned nostalgia? So what if we brought back a little good, old-fashioned nostalgia?
356 00:24:42,189 00:24:44,066 You know, a little Sound of Music? You know, a little Sound of Music?
357 00:24:44,191 00:24:46,193 I mean, we're Monterey, right? I mean, we're Monterey, right?
358 00:24:46,276 00:24:48,529 So, what do we want to say? So, what do we want to say?
359 00:24:48,612 00:24:53,743 And maybe the question isn't, "What is this play?" but, "Who are we?" And maybe the question isn't, "What is this play?" but, "Who are we?"
360 00:24:54,243 00:24:57,087 I take your point. It's a good one. I take your point. It's a good one.
361 00:24:57,746 00:25:03,469 We all have small children and this is the village that we've chosen to raise them in. We all have small children and this is the village that we've chosen to raise them in.
362 00:25:03,585 00:25:06,088 And, um, I would say, And, um, I would say,
363 00:25:06,630 00:25:09,349 among other things, I hope we're open-minded. among other things, I hope we're open-minded.
364 00:25:09,425 00:25:13,271 I mean, I think what draws a lot of people to Monterey is its progressiveness. I mean, I think what draws a lot of people to Monterey is its progressiveness.
365 00:25:14,596 00:25:18,817 But opinions aside, legally, you've already lost. But opinions aside, legally, you've already lost.
366 00:25:20,269 00:25:22,738 The California Constitution goes way further than the federal one The California Constitution goes way further than the federal one
367 00:25:22,813 00:25:23,939 to protect the First Amendment. to protect the First Amendment.
368 00:25:24,064 00:25:26,442 But to answer your question, Renata, "Who are we?" But to answer your question, Renata, "Who are we?"
369 00:25:26,942 00:25:30,242 I don't think we want to become synonymous with suppression and prior restraint. I don't think we want to become synonymous with suppression and prior restraint.
370 00:25:30,946 00:25:36,453 We're going to face accusations of being anti-American and anti-free speech. We're going to face accusations of being anti-American and anti-free speech.
371 00:25:37,411 00:25:40,506 I mean, that's not the politics that you've been practicing, Mayor Bartley. I mean, that's not the politics that you've been practicing, Mayor Bartley.
372 00:25:41,582 00:25:45,803 So I would say there are bigger black eyes than putting on a controversial musical. So I would say there are bigger black eyes than putting on a controversial musical.
373 00:25:46,336 00:25:48,338 Especially ones that have won Tonys. Especially ones that have won Tonys.
374 00:25:51,133 00:25:52,806 Stick that up your tight ass, bitch. Stick that up your tight ass, bitch.
375 00:25:55,804 00:25:57,977 You were fucking brilliant. You were fucking brilliant.
376 00:25:58,807 00:25:59,979 - Really? - Um... - Really? - Um...
377 00:26:00,434 00:26:04,564 Yeah. It's actually kind of annoying that you look like that, and you're smart and educated Yeah. It's actually kind of annoying that you look like that, and you're smart and educated
378 00:26:04,646 00:26:07,525 and intelligent and sympathetic. and intelligent and sympathetic.
379 00:26:07,649 00:26:09,777 You even had Cruella agreeing with you in the end. You even had Cruella agreeing with you in the end.
380 00:26:09,860 00:26:11,237 Did you see her face? Did you see her face?
381 00:26:11,320 00:26:12,822 I mean, come on. I mean, come on.
382 00:26:14,323 00:26:15,791 Yeah, thanks. Yeah, thanks.
383 00:26:16,700 00:26:17,826 What? What?
384 00:26:19,369 00:26:21,667 - What's wrong, honey? - Nothing, nothing. I'm sorry. God. - What's wrong, honey? - Nothing, nothing. I'm sorry. God.
385 00:26:22,539 00:26:25,167 Oh! Stop it, Celeste. Oh! Stop it, Celeste.
386 00:26:26,293 00:26:28,842 I don't know where this is coming from. I really don't. I don't know where this is coming from. I really don't.
387 00:26:30,172 00:26:32,140 Or maybe you do, honey. Or maybe you do, honey.
388 00:26:37,012 00:26:39,640 It's just for six years, It's just for six years,
389 00:26:39,723 00:26:43,193 I've been wiping runny noses, organizing playdates, doing... I've been wiping runny noses, organizing playdates, doing...
390 00:26:45,562 00:26:48,236 Everything to be a good mom, you know? Everything to be a good mom, you know?
391 00:26:48,690 00:26:51,193 And today, I felt alive. I felt good. And today, I felt alive. I felt good.
392 00:26:52,027 00:26:53,950 - Is that crazy? - No. - Is that crazy? - No.
393 00:26:54,029 00:26:58,159 I feel so ashamed for saying this, but being a mother, it's not enough for me. I feel so ashamed for saying this, but being a mother, it's not enough for me.
394 00:26:59,326 00:27:01,328 It's just not. It's not even close. It's just not. It's not even close.
395 00:27:01,870 00:27:04,293 It's evil, all right? I'm evil. I've said it out loud. It's evil, all right? I'm evil. I've said it out loud.
396 00:27:04,373 00:27:06,922 You are not evil. I'm not going to let you say that. You are not evil. I'm not going to let you say that.
397 00:27:07,042 00:27:09,386 What? You think it? Do you? Ever? What? You think it? Do you? Ever?
398 00:27:09,878 00:27:14,679 Yes. I got so consumed with Abigail and Chloe, Yes. I got so consumed with Abigail and Chloe,
399 00:27:15,551 00:27:17,349 their lives were everything... their lives were everything...
400 00:27:18,637 00:27:20,310 ...that I almost forgot I had my own. ...that I almost forgot I had my own.
401 00:27:20,389 00:27:24,895 And I just had to do something, so I decided to volunteer at the theater. And I just had to do something, so I decided to volunteer at the theater.
402 00:27:25,018 00:27:28,238 And I'm not a performer. I'm not a director. I didn't know what to do. And I'm not a performer. I'm not a director. I didn't know what to do.
403 00:27:28,313 00:27:30,862 But it just made me feel like I was doing something. But it just made me feel like I was doing something.
404 00:27:31,066 00:27:33,068 I wanted more, you know? I wanted more, you know?
405 00:27:34,403 00:27:36,906 I want more of that! That feeling. I want more of that! That feeling.
406 00:27:37,239 00:27:39,833 -'Cause that made me feel alive, too. - Mmm-hmm. -'Cause that made me feel alive, too. - Mmm-hmm.
407 00:27:42,828 00:27:44,250 - I want more! - Okay. - I want more! - Okay.
408 00:27:46,874 00:27:48,000 - Jesus. - Oh. - Jesus. - Oh.
409 00:27:48,083 00:27:50,427 - And you know what? - What? - And you know what? - What?
410 00:27:50,752 00:27:52,754 - You're gonna be a lawyer again. - No. - You're gonna be a lawyer again. - No.
411 00:27:53,172 00:27:55,425 I mean, I have never seen you like that. I mean, I have never seen you like that.
412 00:27:56,592 00:27:58,435 For four years I've known you, and... For four years I've known you, and...
413 00:28:00,095 00:28:02,268 Your face looked different, your body changed. Your face looked different, your body changed.
414 00:28:04,933 00:28:06,230 - You miss it. - Mmm-hmm. - You miss it. - Mmm-hmm.
415 00:28:08,604 00:28:09,776 You're right. You're right.
416 00:28:10,230 00:28:12,198 I fucking miss it! I fucking miss it!
417 00:28:12,274 00:28:13,116 Whoo! Whoo!
418 00:28:13,567 00:28:14,614 Whoo! Whoo!
419 00:28:18,280 00:28:19,452 Thank you for agreeing to meet me. Thank you for agreeing to meet me.
420 00:28:19,573 00:28:22,543 I would've asked you to come to the school, but it's kind of a fishbowl there. I would've asked you to come to the school, but it's kind of a fishbowl there.
421 00:28:22,618 00:28:23,961 People can gossip. People can gossip.
422 00:28:24,453 00:28:25,705 What's going on? What's going on?
423 00:28:27,289 00:28:29,712 I have reason to suspect, and only suspect, I have reason to suspect, and only suspect,
424 00:28:29,791 00:28:32,965 that Amabella Klein is still being bullied. that Amabella Klein is still being bullied.
425 00:28:33,086 00:28:36,886 And that Ziggy may be the culprit. And that Ziggy may be the culprit.
426 00:28:37,966 00:28:39,218 I haven't seen anything. I haven't seen anything.
427 00:28:39,301 00:28:42,976 But I feel certain that something is going on with Amabella. But I feel certain that something is going on with Amabella.
428 00:28:43,096 00:28:44,643 She's made no implications. She's made no implications.
429 00:28:44,723 00:28:48,318 In fact, she claims that she and Ziggy are friends. In fact, she claims that she and Ziggy are friends.
430 00:28:48,435 00:28:52,656 Um... And my personal experience of Ziggy, he is a sweet little boy. Um... And my personal experience of Ziggy, he is a sweet little boy.
431 00:28:52,773 00:28:54,400 Yes, so then where is all this coming from? Yes, so then where is all this coming from?
432 00:28:54,483 00:28:58,078 Well, I sensed some tension between them this morning. Well, I sensed some tension between them this morning.
433 00:28:58,320 00:29:00,414 Amabella was visibly upset about something. Amabella was visibly upset about something.
434 00:29:00,489 00:29:02,662 I observed Ziggy looking at her. I observed Ziggy looking at her.
435 00:29:02,783 00:29:05,081 And from my vantage point, And from my vantage point,
436 00:29:05,160 00:29:08,334 he appeared to know exactly what she was upset about. he appeared to know exactly what she was upset about.
437 00:29:08,664 00:29:12,089 Maybe he saw her being bullied. Maybe he was concerned for her. Maybe he saw her being bullied. Maybe he was concerned for her.
438 00:29:12,167 00:29:14,761 That could very well be, though it wasn't my take. That could very well be, though it wasn't my take.
439 00:29:16,004 00:29:17,677 Look, if I think Look, if I think
440 00:29:17,923 00:29:20,346 that a child is being physically that a child is being physically
441 00:29:21,343 00:29:22,845 or emotionally abused, or emotionally abused,
442 00:29:22,928 00:29:25,522 it is my duty to go forward with that, it is my duty to go forward with that,
443 00:29:25,847 00:29:27,690 first and foremost to the parents. first and foremost to the parents.
444 00:29:27,808 00:29:29,276 What fucking evidence do you have? What fucking evidence do you have?
445 00:29:29,351 00:29:32,446 Jane, believe it or not, I'm actually on your side here. Jane, believe it or not, I'm actually on your side here.
446 00:29:32,521 00:29:35,775 No, you know what? If you were on my side, you would not go to Amabella's parents. No, you know what? If you were on my side, you would not go to Amabella's parents.
447 00:29:35,857 00:29:38,952 That is only going to make things worse. You would find another solution. That is only going to make things worse. You would find another solution.
448 00:29:39,027 00:29:40,495 This is ridiculous. This is ridiculous.
449 00:29:42,656 00:29:43,828 Okay. Okay.
450 00:29:45,617 00:29:47,210 Do you have any reason Do you have any reason
451 00:29:48,036 00:29:51,381 - to suspect that Ziggy could be violent? - No. - to suspect that Ziggy could be violent? - No.
452 00:29:51,498 00:29:53,967 Maybe something from his past. Maybe something from his past.
453 00:29:54,042 00:29:55,134 No! No!
454 00:29:58,463 00:30:03,640 Ziggy is a sweet, docile young boy. Ziggy is a sweet, docile young boy.
455 00:30:03,719 00:30:05,687 He's never hurt a fly. He's never hurt a fly.
456 00:30:06,972 00:30:08,815 Wouldn't someone have fucking seen this, for God's sakes? Wouldn't someone have fucking seen this, for God's sakes?
457 00:30:08,890 00:30:10,062 They're in a classroom. They're in a classroom.
458 00:30:13,061 00:30:14,062 Okay, you know what? Okay, you know what?
459 00:30:14,187 00:30:17,532 Maybe you're gonna think this is way off-book, but... Maybe you're gonna think this is way off-book, but...
460 00:30:23,405 00:30:26,158 Everyone's a little bit racist Everyone's a little bit racist
461 00:30:26,241 00:30:28,243 It's true It's true
462 00:30:29,494 00:30:32,714 But everyone is just about as racist But everyone is just about as racist
463 00:30:32,831 00:30:34,333 As you As you
464 00:30:36,335 00:30:39,214 If we all could just admit If we all could just admit
465 00:30:39,421 00:30:41,765 Yeah, that's all I need. No, that's perfect. Yeah, that's all I need. No, that's perfect.
466 00:30:41,923 00:30:44,221 Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Yeah, yeah.
467 00:30:46,261 00:30:47,604 Isn't she amazing? Isn't she amazing?
468 00:30:47,929 00:30:49,226 Amazing. Amazing.
469 00:30:49,431 00:30:51,399 I cannot believe she's doing it for free. I cannot believe she's doing it for free.
470 00:30:51,767 00:30:53,519 She's my best friend. She'll do whatever I ask. She's my best friend. She'll do whatever I ask.
471 00:30:53,602 00:30:55,775 - What if it goes to court? - It's not gonna go to court. - What if it goes to court? - It's not gonna go to court.
472 00:30:55,896 00:30:57,239 That is a done deal. That is a done deal.
473 00:30:58,190 00:30:59,567 It's amazing. You have nothing to worry about. It's amazing. You have nothing to worry about.
474 00:31:01,026 00:31:02,619 You're so good to me. You're so good to me.
475 00:31:03,612 00:31:04,909 I believe in you. I believe in you.
476 00:31:08,116 00:31:09,789 - Oh, my God. - I know. - Oh, my God. - I know.
477 00:31:09,951 00:31:11,373 Out of nowhere. Out of nowhere.
478 00:31:11,745 00:31:12,792 I'm still shaking. I'm still shaking.
479 00:31:12,871 00:31:15,294 One minute we're talking, and then the next... One minute we're talking, and then the next...
480 00:31:17,209 00:31:18,802 He puts his tongue in my throat. He puts his tongue in my throat.
481 00:31:19,920 00:31:22,264 - This is assault. He assaulted you. - Mmm. - This is assault. He assaulted you. - Mmm.
482 00:31:24,132 00:31:26,226 - I might've kissed him back. - What? - I might've kissed him back. - What?
483 00:31:26,468 00:31:29,347 It was, like, a reflex, you know. Somebody kisses you, you kiss them back. It was, like, a reflex, you know. Somebody kisses you, you kiss them back.
484 00:31:30,013 00:31:32,186 - I might've grabbed his ass. I don't know. - What? - I might've grabbed his ass. I don't know. - What?
485 00:31:32,265 00:31:33,892 It just all happened so fast. It just all happened so fast.
486 00:31:33,975 00:31:36,728 And the next thing I know, he has his hand in my shirt. And the next thing I know, he has his hand in my shirt.
487 00:31:38,146 00:31:40,069 Or was it my hand in his shirt? Or was it my hand in his shirt?
488 00:31:40,232 00:31:42,530 What? It was a reflex. What? It was a reflex.
489 00:31:43,777 00:31:45,404 So you're saying the thing's mutual. So you're saying the thing's mutual.
490 00:31:45,946 00:31:48,495 No, he jumped me and then he yelled at me. No, he jumped me and then he yelled at me.
491 00:31:48,573 00:31:51,747 I'm in love with you. You hear me? I'm in love with you, Madeline. I have been... I'm in love with you. You hear me? I'm in love with you, Madeline. I have been...
492 00:31:51,827 00:31:52,874 For months? For months?
493 00:31:54,162 00:31:55,505 So I slapped him. So I slapped him.
494 00:31:56,498 00:31:57,624 What? What?
495 00:31:59,251 00:32:00,844 This is not funny, Celeste. This is not funny, Celeste.
496 00:32:00,919 00:32:03,547 I'm a married woman, and he forced himself on me. I'm a married woman, and he forced himself on me.
497 00:32:05,090 00:32:07,263 Okay, "forced himself' maybe is the wrong word. Okay, "forced himself' maybe is the wrong word.
498 00:32:07,634 00:32:09,432 But I hated every minute of it. But I hated every minute of it.
499 00:32:10,637 00:32:12,139 - I didn't. - Afternoon, ladies. - I didn't. - Afternoon, ladies.
500 00:32:12,222 00:32:14,020 - Hi, Perry. - Hi. - Hi, Perry. - Hi.
501 00:32:14,599 00:32:16,067 - What am I missing? - Nothing. - What am I missing? - Nothing.
502 00:32:16,268 00:32:18,111 Nothing. She's always laughing at me. Nothing. She's always laughing at me.
503 00:32:18,854 00:32:21,858 She's my best audience, and apparently I'm a very funny girl. She's my best audience, and apparently I'm a very funny girl.
504 00:32:24,025 00:32:25,652 How fun was it in court today? How fun was it in court today?
505 00:32:25,902 00:32:26,949 It wasn't court. It wasn't court.
506 00:32:27,028 00:32:30,453 She was incredible, Perry. You should've seen her. She was amazing. She was incredible, Perry. You should've seen her. She was amazing.
507 00:32:30,866 00:32:33,710 She doesn't know when to stop laughing. She was amazing. She doesn't know when to stop laughing. She was amazing.
508 00:32:34,744 00:32:36,041 I kind of already knew that. I kind of already knew that.
509 00:32:36,371 00:32:39,124 It wasn't court, it was a meeting. And it went very well, and it's done now. It wasn't court, it was a meeting. And it went very well, and it's done now.
510 00:32:39,207 00:32:40,379 - Right? - Mmm-hmm. - Right? - Mmm-hmm.
511 00:32:40,876 00:32:44,881 If my baby makes up her mind to do something, you better get out of her way. If my baby makes up her mind to do something, you better get out of her way.
512 00:32:45,714 00:32:47,887 - Hey! My little men! - I made an ollie today. - Hey! My little men! - I made an ollie today.
513 00:32:47,966 00:32:50,094 - Wow! - I made a noseslide. - Wow! - I made a noseslide.
514 00:32:50,177 00:32:52,475 I don't even know what that is, but it's really exciting. I don't even know what that is, but it's really exciting.
515 00:32:52,888 00:32:55,311 - Mom, did you film all this? - No. No, l didn't. - Mom, did you film all this? - No. No, l didn't.
516 00:32:55,390 00:32:56,516 I want to show you, Dad. Come on! I want to show you, Dad. Come on!
517 00:32:56,600 00:32:58,898 I want to see it, but let's do it after dinner. I want to see it, but let's do it after dinner.
518 00:32:59,311 00:33:01,564 I'm just gonna chill with Mommy for a second and funny Maddie. I'm just gonna chill with Mommy for a second and funny Maddie.
519 00:33:01,646 00:33:02,818 - No, Dad, come on. - Dad! - No, Dad, come on. - Dad!
520 00:33:02,898 00:33:05,742 - All right, all right, all right. - There will be wine waiting for you. - All right, all right, all right. - There will be wine waiting for you.
521 00:33:05,817 00:33:08,320 - We're gonna go work on our noseslides now. - Bye, Daddy. - We're gonna go work on our noseslides now. - Bye, Daddy.
522 00:33:08,403 00:33:10,246 Bye. All right, outside. Bye. All right, outside.
523 00:33:10,322 00:33:12,791 - He's such a great dad. - Mmm-hmm. - He's such a great dad. - Mmm-hmm.
524 00:33:14,576 00:33:15,998 So... So...
525 00:33:16,077 00:33:17,579 What really happened? What really happened?
526 00:34:11,174 00:34:12,892 Yeah. Yeah.
527 00:34:13,301 00:34:15,554 Oh. Buddy. Oh. Buddy.
528 00:34:16,137 00:34:18,890 What's the matter? Let me see. Let me see. What's the matter? Let me see. Let me see.
529 00:34:21,184 00:34:24,233 There's no blood. Take a deep breath. Come here. There's no blood. Take a deep breath. Come here.
530 00:34:26,147 00:34:28,400 Should we go to the hospital? I think we should call the ambulance. Should we go to the hospital? I think we should call the ambulance.
531 00:34:28,775 00:34:30,322 - I think we need to call 911. - No. - I think we need to call 911. - No.
532 00:34:30,485 00:34:32,988 I think we should. Should I call the Tooth Fairy? I think we should. Should I call the Tooth Fairy?
533 00:34:33,280 00:34:34,907 - No. - Or Santa Claus? - No. - Or Santa Claus?
534 00:34:35,907 00:34:37,159 I'm sorry, buddy. I'm sorry, buddy.
535 00:34:38,952 00:34:41,546 Last time we had pizza and we went to the zoo, Last time we had pizza and we went to the zoo,
536 00:34:41,955 00:34:43,832 you told me we were moving to Monterey. you told me we were moving to Monterey.
537 00:34:44,416 00:34:45,668 What now? What now?
538 00:34:49,004 00:34:51,553 You're going to go see a child psychologist. You're going to go see a child psychologist.
539 00:34:54,926 00:34:57,475 I think he plans on signing up for a class, that's all. I think he plans on signing up for a class, that's all.
540 00:34:57,971 00:35:00,565 Did he hit on you at all? What did he say? Did he hit on you at all? What did he say?
541 00:35:03,310 00:35:06,564 Just that it should fall to me and him to keep the peace at this dinner. Just that it should fall to me and him to keep the peace at this dinner.
542 00:35:07,188 00:35:08,314 I don't disagree. I don't disagree.
543 00:35:11,484 00:35:14,203 Did he say anything off at all? Did he say anything off at all?
544 00:35:15,196 00:35:16,288 Or cross you in any way? Or cross you in any way?
545 00:35:16,364 00:35:17,866 'Cause I'd love to have a reason to pop him one. 'Cause I'd love to have a reason to pop him one.
546 00:35:17,949 00:35:19,496 Nathan Carlson. Nathan Carlson.
547 00:35:19,951 00:35:22,079 I'm saying the guy's off, Bonnie. Come on, admit it. I'm saying the guy's off, Bonnie. Come on, admit it.
548 00:35:23,121 00:35:26,045 The whole point of this dinner is so we can all get along, okay? The whole point of this dinner is so we can all get along, okay?
549 00:35:26,124 00:35:28,218 Not so you can "pop him one." Not so you can "pop him one."
550 00:35:28,835 00:35:29,882 The guy's off. The guy's off.
551 00:35:29,961 00:35:32,384 At some point, boundaries are gonna have to be set. At some point, boundaries are gonna have to be set.
552 00:35:34,132 00:35:35,850 Hey. Hey, where you going? Hey. Hey, where you going?
553 00:35:36,051 00:35:37,849 - I'm going to Becky's. - Becky. - I'm going to Becky's. - Becky.
554 00:35:38,094 00:35:39,562 Wait, is she the stupid one? Wait, is she the stupid one?
555 00:35:40,263 00:35:42,982 Your mom's always nagging me about letting you hang out with stupid people. Your mom's always nagging me about letting you hang out with stupid people.
556 00:35:43,058 00:35:44,605 Well, she's still upset about the tutor. Well, she's still upset about the tutor.
557 00:35:45,226 00:35:47,729 - Hey, what do you have there? What are you... - Nothing. - Hey, what do you have there? What are you... - Nothing.
558 00:35:48,063 00:35:49,656 What are you carrying, darling? What are you carrying, darling?
559 00:35:51,232 00:35:52,484 Nothing. Nothing.
560 00:35:53,234 00:35:54,611 I can check my bar. I can check my bar.
561 00:36:01,534 00:36:02,581 What? What?
562 00:36:05,372 00:36:06,589 What? What?
563 00:36:06,873 00:36:08,671 You need to relax. You need to relax.
564 00:36:10,669 00:36:12,797 We don't want anyone getting hurt, do we? We don't want anyone getting hurt, do we?
565 00:36:14,089 00:36:15,682 You know, we can always move. You know, we can always move.
566 00:36:16,966 00:36:19,264 - We don't have to live in Monterey. - Really? - We don't have to live in Monterey. - Really?
567 00:36:19,594 00:36:20,846 Yeah. Yeah.
568 00:36:20,929 00:36:22,476 You want to move? You want to move?
569 00:36:23,932 00:36:26,731 Okay, first of all, Skye loves it here. A lot. Okay, first of all, Skye loves it here. A lot.
570 00:36:27,394 00:36:29,988 Second of all, we're never gonna find public schools this good. Second of all, we're never gonna find public schools this good.
571 00:36:30,355 00:36:31,948 And third, what about Abigail? And third, what about Abigail?
572 00:36:32,273 00:36:33,900 She goes back with her mom? She goes back with her mom?
573 00:36:34,401 00:36:35,823 She'll just move away with us. She'll just move away with us.
574 00:36:37,529 00:36:39,406 That'll be the last straw for ex-thing. That'll be the last straw for ex-thing.
575 00:36:44,244 00:36:45,837 Okay. All right. Okay. All right.
576 00:36:47,455 00:36:49,549 - That is a lot to fantasize... - Stop. - That is a lot to fantasize... - Stop.
577 00:36:55,964 00:36:57,056 Whatcha doing? Whatcha doing?
578 00:36:57,549 00:37:00,268 Nothing. Just staring at the sunset, Nothing. Just staring at the sunset,
579 00:37:02,053 00:37:04,852 thinking how lucky we are to have that in our face every day. thinking how lucky we are to have that in our face every day.
580 00:37:05,473 00:37:07,020 That is not what you were thinking. That is not what you were thinking.
581 00:37:17,652 00:37:19,654 Abby know you go on her Facebook page? Abby know you go on her Facebook page?
582 00:37:20,280 00:37:21,327 Probably. Probably.
583 00:37:21,406 00:37:24,205 I leave comments sometimes. Though under an alias. I leave comments sometimes. Though under an alias.
584 00:37:24,784 00:37:26,457 What's the alias? What's the alias?
585 00:37:27,120 00:37:28,372 God. God.
586 00:37:30,248 00:37:32,501 So, you went to visit Bonnie So, you went to visit Bonnie
587 00:37:33,001 00:37:34,844 -at her studio? - Wow. -at her studio? - Wow.
588 00:37:36,045 00:37:37,672 No secrets in this town. No secrets in this town.
589 00:37:38,923 00:37:41,802 I was thinking about doing a sit-up and wanted to get her advice. I was thinking about doing a sit-up and wanted to get her advice.
590 00:37:44,179 00:37:47,774 Went to talk about the dinner and how to best avoid friction. Went to talk about the dinner and how to best avoid friction.
591 00:37:48,516 00:37:49,688 Or animosity. Or animosity.
592 00:37:50,560 00:37:53,860 - Violence? - Exactly how psychotic do you think I am? - Violence? - Exactly how psychotic do you think I am?
593 00:38:00,153 00:38:01,370 Come on. Come on.
594 00:38:13,041 00:38:14,384 You doing okay, Maddie? You doing okay, Maddie?
595 00:38:17,295 00:38:18,421 Tell me. Tell me.
596 00:38:19,047 00:38:21,095 Tell me. I'll make you feel good, baby. Tell me. I'll make you feel good, baby.
597 00:38:23,384 00:38:25,386 I just feel like I'm... I just feel like I'm...
598 00:38:26,513 00:38:28,390 Losing control a little bit. Losing control a little bit.
599 00:38:29,015 00:38:30,187 Of? Of?
600 00:38:31,476 00:38:32,693 What I am. What I am.
601 00:38:35,772 00:38:36,989 How so? How so?
602 00:38:41,194 00:38:42,411 I don't know. I don't know.
603 00:38:43,112 00:38:44,659 You don't know? You don't know?
604 00:39:29,909 00:39:31,286 I love you. I love you.
605 00:39:39,335 00:39:42,885 There's nothing like the sound of crunching cereal in the morning. There's nothing like the sound of crunching cereal in the morning.
606 00:39:54,642 00:39:56,485 Wow! Wow!
607 00:39:59,147 00:40:02,367 - Not too summery? - No, it looks incredible. - Not too summery? - No, it looks incredible.
608 00:40:03,818 00:40:06,037 It's funny how clothes always seem to do that on you. It's funny how clothes always seem to do that on you.
609 00:40:06,738 00:40:07,990 You're sweet. You're sweet.
610 00:40:08,990 00:40:10,333 What's the occasion? What's the occasion?
611 00:40:11,034 00:40:14,254 I have a meeting with the attorney representing the town. I have a meeting with the attorney representing the town.
612 00:40:18,499 00:40:20,046 - Another meeting, huh? - Mmm-hmm. - Another meeting, huh? - Mmm-hmm.
613 00:40:20,877 00:40:22,550 I think we're gonna settle it today. I think we're gonna settle it today.
614 00:40:24,005 00:40:25,257 Yeah? Yeah?
615 00:40:26,174 00:40:28,176 - What if it doesn't settle? - Oh. - What if it doesn't settle? - Oh.
616 00:40:28,551 00:40:31,020 Well, we'd probably go to court, but it would just be a one-off. Well, we'd probably go to court, but it would just be a one-off.
617 00:40:32,221 00:40:33,723 They really don't have any grounds. They really don't have any grounds.
618 00:40:34,891 00:40:36,393 So, a court appearance now? So, a court appearance now?
619 00:40:37,518 00:40:40,112 Probably not, but what's the big deal? Probably not, but what's the big deal?
620 00:40:42,023 00:40:44,025 Well, the big deal is that you lied to me. Well, the big deal is that you lied to me.
621 00:40:44,692 00:40:45,818 You said it'd be one meeting yesterday, You said it'd be one meeting yesterday,
622 00:40:45,902 00:40:47,449 and then it'd be over with. Now you're going to court. and then it'd be over with. Now you're going to court.
623 00:40:47,528 00:40:49,451 I never said that. I said I thought it would go away quickly, I never said that. I said I thought it would go away quickly,
624 00:40:49,530 00:40:50,907 and I still believe that it will. and I still believe that it will.
625 00:40:51,032 00:40:53,080 - I don't want you doing this. - Well, it's not your fucking call. - I don't want you doing this. - Well, it's not your fucking call.
626 00:40:56,120 00:40:57,292 Mom? Mom?
627 00:40:57,622 00:41:00,546 - Okay, let's go, sweetie. - Hey, champ. - Okay, let's go, sweetie. - Hey, champ.
628 00:41:01,584 00:41:03,382 - Bye, Dad. - Have a great day. - Bye, Dad. - Have a great day.
629 00:41:03,962 00:41:05,384 We're going to be late. We're going to be late.
630 00:41:05,755 00:41:07,382 Come on. Quick, quick. Come on. Quick, quick.
631 00:41:07,715 00:41:08,887 Let's go. Let's go.
632 00:41:12,387 00:41:13,559 Bye. Bye.
633 00:41:44,419 00:41:45,762 Ms Chapman? Ms Chapman?
634 00:41:47,088 00:41:48,305 Come on in. Come on in.
635 00:41:50,675 00:41:52,097 We had a nice conversation. We had a nice conversation.
636 00:41:52,760 00:41:57,357 - He's a very smart little guy. - Yeah. - He's a very smart little guy. - Yeah.
637 00:41:58,307 00:41:59,604 Please. Please.
638 00:42:00,768 00:42:01,940 Have a seat. Have a seat.
639 00:42:08,651 00:42:12,656 I can see that you're nervous, so I'm just gonna cut right to the punchline. I can see that you're nervous, so I'm just gonna cut right to the punchline.
640 00:42:12,947 00:42:15,791 I do not think Ziggy is a bully. I do not think Ziggy is a bully.
641 00:42:17,035 00:42:20,289 I brought up the incident that you had mentioned at orientation, I brought up the incident that you had mentioned at orientation,
642 00:42:20,371 00:42:22,624 and he made it very clear it wasn't him. and he made it very clear it wasn't him.
643 00:42:22,874 00:42:24,467 And I'd be surprised if he's lying. And I'd be surprised if he's lying.
644 00:42:25,293 00:42:29,548 If so, he's the most accomplished liar I have ever seen. If so, he's the most accomplished liar I have ever seen.
645 00:42:30,298 00:42:34,974 And frankly, he doesn't show any of the classic signs of a bullying personality. And frankly, he doesn't show any of the classic signs of a bullying personality.
646 00:42:35,053 00:42:36,680 He's not narcissistic. He's not narcissistic.
647 00:42:36,804 00:42:40,308 And he certainly demonstrates empathy and sensitivity. And he certainly demonstrates empathy and sensitivity.
648 00:42:44,062 00:42:45,484 Sorry. Sorry.
649 00:42:47,857 00:42:49,154 Are you sure? Are you sure?
650 00:42:49,984 00:42:51,327 I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure.
651 00:42:52,236 00:42:54,705 I definitely would like to see him for another appointment. I definitely would like to see him for another appointment.
652 00:42:55,490 00:42:57,868 I think he's suffering from a lot of anxiety, I think he's suffering from a lot of anxiety,
653 00:42:57,992 00:43:00,211 and I believe that there is... and I believe that there is...
654 00:43:00,495 00:43:02,998 There's a lot he didn't share with me today. There's a lot he didn't share with me today.
655 00:43:03,414 00:43:07,009 And I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he himself is being bullied at school. And I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he himself is being bullied at school.
656 00:43:07,668 00:43:10,512 Ziggy? - I could be wrong, but I wouldn't be shocked. Ziggy? - I could be wrong, but I wouldn't be shocked.
657 00:43:11,005 00:43:12,552 My guess is that it's verbal, My guess is that it's verbal,
658 00:43:13,007 00:43:16,511 and that some smart kid has found his weak spot. and that some smart kid has found his weak spot.
659 00:43:17,887 00:43:19,685 He also brought up his father. He also brought up his father.
660 00:43:20,890 00:43:22,358 Who, uh... Who, uh...
661 00:43:22,725 00:43:25,695 Believe it or not, he thinks might be Darth Vader. Believe it or not, he thinks might be Darth Vader.
662 00:43:26,020 00:43:27,567 What? What?
663 00:43:27,688 00:43:31,534 Children often get caught halfway between fantasy and reality. Children often get caught halfway between fantasy and reality.
664 00:43:31,776 00:43:32,948 And he's only six. And he's only six.
665 00:43:33,027 00:43:36,702 And I asked him if the two of you talk much about his father. And I asked him if the two of you talk much about his father.
666 00:43:37,907 00:43:39,204 He said it upset you. He said it upset you.
667 00:43:39,951 00:43:41,874 And that you're not saying much about him. And that you're not saying much about him.
668 00:43:42,120 00:43:44,214 Yeah, it's very complicated, so... Yeah, it's very complicated, so...
669 00:43:44,747 00:43:50,629 He said that, "Be aware that if we're talking to my mom about my dad, He said that, "Be aware that if we're talking to my mom about my dad,
670 00:43:50,711 00:43:54,261 "that, uh, she's gonna get a funny look on her face." "that, uh, she's gonna get a funny look on her face."
671 00:43:55,675 00:43:57,393 So I take it that, uh, So I take it that, uh,
672 00:43:57,927 00:44:00,726 Ziggy's father isn't exactly a good guy. Ziggy's father isn't exactly a good guy.
673 00:44:01,389 00:44:03,062 No, not exactly. No, not exactly.
674 00:44:05,226 00:44:07,399 And I assume that Ziggy's never met him. And I assume that Ziggy's never met him.
675 00:44:08,229 00:44:09,606 Yeah, no, he never will. Yeah, no, he never will.
676 00:44:12,275 00:44:15,870 Well, as I said, I think you have a... Well, as I said, I think you have a...
677 00:44:16,362 00:44:18,364 A caring, sweet little boy on your hands. A caring, sweet little boy on your hands.
678 00:44:19,365 00:44:20,867 But I would like to see him again. But I would like to see him again.
679 00:44:22,285 00:44:23,582 Okay. Okay.
680 00:44:24,245 00:44:25,747 You wanna see him? You wanna see him?
681 00:44:29,917 00:44:31,419 - Ziggy? - Hi. - Ziggy? - Hi.
682 00:44:33,880 00:44:35,757 We'll call him Giant Harry the Hippo. We'll call him Giant Harry the Hippo.
683 00:44:38,926 00:44:40,223 Maddie. Maddie.
684 00:44:41,888 00:44:43,686 - What are you doing here? - I need to talk to you. - What are you doing here? - I need to talk to you.
685 00:44:43,764 00:44:45,266 Have you been following me? Have you been following me?
686 00:44:45,391 00:44:46,813 - No, I haven't been following you. - Oh, my God. - No, I haven't been following you. - Oh, my God.
687 00:44:46,934 00:44:48,936 Well, I want to talk to you about what I did at the theater. Well, I want to talk to you about what I did at the theater.
688 00:44:49,061 00:44:52,156 - You can't do this out of nowhere! - It was unacceptable. inexcusable. - You can't do this out of nowhere! - It was unacceptable. inexcusable.
689 00:44:52,607 00:44:55,326 That said, it didn't happen in a vacuum. That said, it didn't happen in a vacuum.
690 00:44:56,110 00:44:59,080 - What do you mean? - You know what I mean, Madeline. Come on. - What do you mean? - You know what I mean, Madeline. Come on.
691 00:44:59,155 00:45:01,249 What happened a year ago was an accident. What happened a year ago was an accident.
692 00:45:01,324 00:45:03,793 I told you that was a mistake that's not going to be repeated again. I told you that was a mistake that's not going to be repeated again.
693 00:45:04,118 00:45:05,620 Well, it was repeated, several times. Well, it was repeated, several times.
694 00:45:05,745 00:45:08,168 Okay, stop. It's been erased. Okay, stop. It's been erased.
695 00:45:09,332 00:45:10,959 - Erased? - Yes, it didn't happen. - Erased? - Yes, it didn't happen.
696 00:45:11,083 00:45:12,676 I am a happily married woman. I am a happily married woman.
697 00:45:12,793 00:45:14,136 - Really? - Yes. - Really? - Yes.
698 00:45:16,964 00:45:20,184 You know what? You told me you agreed that you were not going to open this up again. You know what? You told me you agreed that you were not going to open this up again.
699 00:45:20,301 00:45:21,974 Well, I don't agree anymore. Well, I don't agree anymore.
700 00:45:22,803 00:45:25,477 All right, you know what? You stay in your life, I'll stay in mine. All right, you know what? You stay in your life, I'll stay in mine.
701 00:45:25,681 00:45:26,978 Hey- Hey-
702 00:45:31,479 00:45:34,278 My major concern is as to how he might react. My major concern is as to how he might react.
703 00:45:35,483 00:45:37,326 To the idea that you want to go back to work? To the idea that you want to go back to work?
704 00:45:37,652 00:45:43,000 What did he say, his words exactly? That he was afraid of me, um... What did he say, his words exactly? That he was afraid of me, um...
705 00:45:44,659 00:45:46,161 - Going through him. - Ah. - Going through him. - Ah.
706 00:45:48,788 00:45:50,665 Yeah, so I'm... Yeah, so I'm...
707 00:45:51,958 00:45:55,132 I suppose I'm just worried that he's gonna take it as a rejection. I suppose I'm just worried that he's gonna take it as a rejection.
708 00:45:56,128 00:45:59,382 You were working when he first met you and when he fell in love with you, right? You were working when he first met you and when he fell in love with you, right?
709 00:45:59,507 00:46:00,633 Yeah. Yeah.
710 00:46:00,716 00:46:02,184 But he, um... But he, um...
711 00:46:03,469 00:46:07,190 He just likes me to be at home in the house, and we have the twins, and... He just likes me to be at home in the house, and we have the twins, and...
712 00:46:10,893 00:46:13,487 He's not that crazy about me having too many friends. He's not that crazy about me having too many friends.
713 00:46:13,562 00:46:15,485 He's just possessive. That's who he is, so... He's just possessive. That's who he is, so...
714 00:46:17,316 00:46:19,489 And I hope that you'd have some ideas And I hope that you'd have some ideas
715 00:46:19,568 00:46:23,869 on the best way to communicate with him about me going back to work. on the best way to communicate with him about me going back to work.
716 00:46:25,825 00:46:26,872 No? No?
717 00:46:27,201 00:46:32,082 Well, I could certainly suggest some communicative tools, Well, I could certainly suggest some communicative tools,
718 00:46:32,540 00:46:33,917 but... but...
719 00:46:34,417 00:46:37,045 For me, the issue isn't how best to talk to your husband, For me, the issue isn't how best to talk to your husband,
720 00:46:37,169 00:46:38,671 but why you're afraid to. but why you're afraid to.
721 00:46:42,008 00:46:43,555 I'm not, um... I'm not, um...
722 00:46:44,552 00:46:46,725 I'm not afraid. I'm just... I'm not afraid. I'm just...
723 00:46:49,223 00:46:50,395 I just want to have... I just want to have...
724 00:46:50,850 00:46:53,729 I suppose I want to communicate it in the best way that's... I suppose I want to communicate it in the best way that's...
725 00:46:55,730 00:46:56,947 Okay. Okay.
726 00:46:58,441 00:46:59,784 I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid.
727 00:47:01,527 00:47:06,033 The week leading up to Trivia Night, something changed with Celeste. The week leading up to Trivia Night, something changed with Celeste.
728 00:47:06,699 00:47:09,578 Still beautiful. But in her face... Still beautiful. But in her face...
729 00:47:09,702 00:47:10,749 Her eyes... Her eyes...
730 00:47:10,870 00:47:14,124 Not a look like she could actually kill somebody, but, um... Not a look like she could actually kill somebody, but, um...
731 00:47:37,897 00:47:39,570 Yeah, I think it's him. Yeah, I think it's him.
732 00:47:40,733 00:47:42,406 If I heard his voice... If I heard his voice...
733 00:47:43,569 00:47:47,415 I can still remember his voice. I can also still remember that disgusting smell. I can still remember his voice. I can also still remember that disgusting smell.
734 00:47:48,949 00:47:50,622 Where did you say he lived? Where did you say he lived?
735 00:47:50,743 00:47:52,120 San Luis Obispo. San Luis Obispo.
736 00:47:54,789 00:47:56,416 You're not thinking about going down there? You're not thinking about going down there?