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| 1 | 00:00:08,341 | 00:00:11,343 | [rapid footsteps] | [rapid footsteps] |
| 2 | 00:00:12,971 | 00:00:15,472 | Four and... | Four and... |
| 3 | 00:00:15,473 | 00:00:17,057 | That's good. | That's good. |
| 4 | 00:00:17,058 | 00:00:20,060 | [dramatic music] | [dramatic music] |
| 5 | 00:00:20,061 | 00:00:22,563 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 6 | 00:00:22,564 | 00:00:24,565 | It's coming up. | It's coming up. |
| 7 | 00:00:24,566 | 00:02:10,420 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 8 | 00:02:16,177 | 00:02:20,597 | I think that people think that sometimes I focus too much | I think that people think that sometimes I focus too much |
| 9 | 00:02:20,598 | 00:02:22,683 | on the fact that I'm a black dancer. | on the fact that I'm a black dancer. |
| 10 | 00:02:25,895 | 00:02:28,063 | But that's so much of who I am, | But that's so much of who I am, |
| 11 | 00:02:28,064 | 00:02:31,692 | and I think it's so much a part of my story. | and I think it's so much a part of my story. |
| 12 | 00:02:34,696 | 00:02:37,072 | Just making it to this level, I think, | Just making it to this level, I think, |
| 13 | 00:02:37,073 | 00:02:39,825 | no matter what race you are or what gender, | no matter what race you are or what gender, |
| 14 | 00:02:39,826 | 00:02:42,411 | is a huge accomplishment. | is a huge accomplishment. |
| 15 | 00:02:42,412 | 00:02:45,914 | I don't think that people realize what a feat it is | I don't think that people realize what a feat it is |
| 16 | 00:02:45,915 | 00:02:47,666 | being a black woman. | being a black woman. |
| 17 | 00:02:47,667 | 00:02:50,085 | If they were to, you know, go back and read | If they were to, you know, go back and read |
| 18 | 00:02:50,086 | 00:02:52,462 | that there's never been a black principal woman | that there's never been a black principal woman |
| 19 | 00:02:52,463 | 00:02:55,799 | at the Royal Ballet, at the Paris Opera Ballet, | at the Royal Ballet, at the Paris Opera Ballet, |
| 20 | 00:02:55,800 | 00:02:57,342 | at the Kirov Ballet, | at the Kirov Ballet, |
| 21 | 00:02:57,343 | 00:02:58,802 | in the top companies in the world, | in the top companies in the world, |
| 22 | 00:02:58,803 | 00:03:00,971 | in New York City Ballet in New York City... | in New York City Ballet in New York City... |
| 23 | 00:03:02,515 | 00:03:05,517 | I don't think people really understand that. | I don't think people really understand that. |
| 24 | 00:03:06,728 | 00:03:10,355 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 25 | 00:04:28,268 | 00:04:29,810 | Hi, Steph. | Hi, Steph. |
| 26 | 00:04:29,811 | 00:04:31,436 | You okay? You good? | You okay? You good? |
| 27 | 00:04:31,437 | 00:04:32,437 | Yeah, I'm okay. | Yeah, I'm okay. |
| 28 | 00:04:32,438 | 00:04:33,438 | - How you doing? - I'm good. | - How you doing? - I'm good. |
| 29 | 00:04:33,439 | 00:04:34,439 | - You coming tomorrow? - Yeah. | - You coming tomorrow? - Yeah. |
| 30 | 00:04:34,440 | 00:04:36,233 | - Okay. - Gonna come and watch everyone. | - Okay. - Gonna come and watch everyone. |
| 31 | 00:04:36,234 | 00:04:37,943 | - You good, though? - Getting better, yeah. | - You good, though? - Getting better, yeah. |
| 32 | 00:04:37,944 | 00:04:38,944 | Taking barre? | Taking barre? |
| 33 | 00:04:38,945 | 00:04:40,404 | I did my own barre today, so... | I did my own barre today, so... |
| 34 | 00:04:40,405 | 00:04:43,282 | Good. | Good. |
| 35 | 00:04:43,283 | 00:04:44,825 | - Nice to see you. - You too. | - Nice to see you. - You too. |
| 36 | 00:04:48,746 | 00:04:50,372 | She just got injured. | She just got injured. |
| 37 | 00:04:52,250 | 00:04:53,458 | It sucks. | It sucks. |
| 38 | 00:04:56,296 | 00:04:57,379 | This is... this is it. | This is... this is it. |
| 39 | 00:04:57,380 | 00:05:00,007 | I've been coming here since I was 16 | I've been coming here since I was 16 |
| 40 | 00:05:00,008 | 00:05:02,634 | to these exact studios. | to these exact studios. |
| 41 | 00:05:02,635 | 00:05:04,469 | [door buzzes] | [door buzzes] |
| 42 | 00:05:11,686 | 00:05:12,894 | This Paloma Herrera | This Paloma Herrera |
| 43 | 00:05:12,895 | 00:05:15,105 | in the part of Gamzatti in "La Bayadère," | in the part of Gamzatti in "La Bayadère," |
| 44 | 00:05:15,106 | 00:05:18,400 | and I do this role now, which is so exciting. | and I do this role now, which is so exciting. |
| 45 | 00:05:18,401 | 00:05:19,943 | I premiered it two years ago, | I premiered it two years ago, |
| 46 | 00:05:19,944 | 00:05:22,112 | and I'll do it again this Met season. | and I'll do it again this Met season. |
| 47 | 00:05:31,205 | 00:05:35,167 | This is, like, where we have our rehearsal schedules, | This is, like, where we have our rehearsal schedules, |
| 48 | 00:05:35,168 | 00:05:38,337 | where they put up casting when it's time. | where they put up casting when it's time. |
| 49 | 00:05:38,338 | 00:05:41,214 | There's usually, like, a basic casting book | There's usually, like, a basic casting book |
| 50 | 00:05:41,215 | 00:05:42,507 | that's, like, this big book. | that's, like, this big book. |
| 51 | 00:05:42,508 | 00:05:45,093 | It's like the Bible, and it has, like, | It's like the Bible, and it has, like, |
| 52 | 00:05:45,094 | 00:05:48,347 | what parts you're learning and, like, you're understudying, | what parts you're learning and, like, you're understudying, |
| 53 | 00:05:48,348 | 00:05:50,390 | and so you have to, like, go back to that | and so you have to, like, go back to that |
| 54 | 00:05:50,391 | 00:05:54,603 | and then think, "Oh, what part am I understudying?" | and then think, "Oh, what part am I understudying?" |
| 55 | 00:05:54,604 | 00:05:56,229 | And then you have to check, and it's like, | And then you have to check, and it's like, |
| 56 | 00:05:56,230 | 00:05:58,357 | "All Us and alts." | "All Us and alts." |
| 57 | 00:05:58,358 | 00:06:01,026 | Like, understudies and alternates have to come, | Like, understudies and alternates have to come, |
| 58 | 00:06:01,027 | 00:06:02,361 | and sometimes you're not called. | and sometimes you're not called. |
| 59 | 00:06:02,362 | 00:06:04,988 | It's just confusing, and it took me so many years | It's just confusing, and it took me so many years |
| 60 | 00:06:04,989 | 00:06:08,700 | to, like, feel comfortable and not, like, be on edge. | to, like, feel comfortable and not, like, be on edge. |
| 61 | 00:06:11,412 | 00:06:13,246 | Every morning, I come in early. | Every morning, I come in early. |
| 62 | 00:06:13,247 | 00:06:15,791 | I'm usually either... I'm alone. | I'm usually either... I'm alone. |
| 63 | 00:06:15,792 | 00:06:17,250 | No one's here yet. | No one's here yet. |
| 64 | 00:06:17,251 | 00:06:19,586 | I move the barre by myself, which is heavy, | I move the barre by myself, which is heavy, |
| 65 | 00:06:19,587 | 00:06:21,380 | and I put it right here, | and I put it right here, |
| 66 | 00:06:21,381 | 00:06:23,924 | and then this is my spot every morning. | and then this is my spot every morning. |
| 67 | 00:06:23,925 | 00:06:26,343 | Like, if I take class in here, this is exactly where I stand, | Like, if I take class in here, this is exactly where I stand, |
| 68 | 00:06:26,344 | 00:06:29,304 | 'cause then I can see myself in that mirror from the front | 'cause then I can see myself in that mirror from the front |
| 69 | 00:06:29,305 | 00:06:32,349 | and I can see myself in that mirror from the side, | and I can see myself in that mirror from the side, |
| 70 | 00:06:32,350 | 00:06:36,228 | which is nice to be able to, like, see all angles of yourself | which is nice to be able to, like, see all angles of yourself |
| 71 | 00:06:36,229 | 00:06:37,562 | when you're working at the barre, | when you're working at the barre, |
| 72 | 00:06:37,563 | 00:06:40,357 | to see, you know, if my leg is in front of me | to see, you know, if my leg is in front of me |
| 73 | 00:06:40,358 | 00:06:41,858 | or if my leg is behind me. | or if my leg is behind me. |
| 74 | 00:06:41,859 | 00:06:43,944 | I can see all of that from the side, | I can see all of that from the side, |
| 75 | 00:06:43,945 | 00:06:45,362 | make sure that everything is, like, | make sure that everything is, like, |
| 76 | 00:06:45,363 | 00:06:47,906 | exactly the way that it needs to be. | exactly the way that it needs to be. |
| 77 | 00:06:47,907 | 00:06:50,325 | So I'm a crazy perfectionist. | So I'm a crazy perfectionist. |
| 78 | 00:06:50,326 | 00:06:52,702 | [laughs] | [laughs] |
| 79 | 00:06:52,703 | 00:06:54,830 | So this is my spot. | So this is my spot. |
| 80 | 00:06:54,831 | 00:06:57,541 | And sometimes, like, someone will get here first, | And sometimes, like, someone will get here first, |
| 81 | 00:06:57,542 | 00:06:59,167 | and then they take your spot, and you're like, | and then they take your spot, and you're like, |
| 82 | 00:06:59,168 | 00:07:02,254 | "Ugh, I have to stand behind them today." | "Ugh, I have to stand behind them today." |
| 83 | 00:07:02,255 | 00:07:05,257 | [laughs] | [laughs] |
| 84 | 00:07:17,228 | 00:07:21,690 | Every great ballet dancer, male or female, | Every great ballet dancer, male or female, |
| 85 | 00:07:21,691 | 00:07:24,359 | at one point ends up dancing at ABT | at one point ends up dancing at ABT |
| 86 | 00:07:24,360 | 00:07:27,404 | or at least desires to dance at ABT. | or at least desires to dance at ABT. |
| 87 | 00:07:27,405 | 00:07:29,114 | It was founded in the belief | It was founded in the belief |
| 88 | 00:07:29,115 | 00:07:32,993 | that we could emulate Russia and France | that we could emulate Russia and France |
| 89 | 00:07:32,994 | 00:07:35,996 | in terms of having a world-class ballet company. | in terms of having a world-class ballet company. |
| 90 | 00:07:38,958 | 00:07:41,084 | They perform at the Metropolitan Opera House, | They perform at the Metropolitan Opera House, |
| 91 | 00:07:41,085 | 00:07:43,420 | which is considered, bar none, | which is considered, bar none, |
| 92 | 00:07:43,421 | 00:07:45,839 | the most important stage in the world. | the most important stage in the world. |
| 93 | 00:07:50,636 | 00:07:53,638 | [intense violin music] | [intense violin music] |
| 94 | 00:07:53,639 | 00:08:01,646 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 95 | 00:08:23,961 | 00:08:25,170 | I was definitely, | I was definitely, |
| 96 | 00:08:25,171 | 00:08:27,506 | for the majority of my childhood, | for the majority of my childhood, |
| 97 | 00:08:27,507 | 00:08:29,716 | in underprivileged communities | in underprivileged communities |
| 98 | 00:08:29,717 | 00:08:31,885 | and struggling in terms of money. | and struggling in terms of money. |
| 99 | 00:08:33,054 | 00:08:35,263 | I was one of six kids. | I was one of six kids. |
| 100 | 00:08:35,264 | 00:08:38,183 | I was very shy and definitely was | I was very shy and definitely was |
| 101 | 00:08:38,184 | 00:08:41,561 | the one in the family that blended in with the background, | the one in the family that blended in with the background, |
| 102 | 00:08:41,562 | 00:08:45,398 | 'cause everyone was fighting for attention in some way. | 'cause everyone was fighting for attention in some way. |
| 103 | 00:08:45,399 | 00:08:48,109 | I was introduced to ballet at 13, | I was introduced to ballet at 13, |
| 104 | 00:08:48,110 | 00:08:51,279 | and it was just this instant connection. | and it was just this instant connection. |
| 105 | 00:08:51,280 | 00:08:54,324 | I felt that I could really say something. | I felt that I could really say something. |
| 106 | 00:08:54,325 | 00:08:58,161 | I felt like I belonged and that I had a voice. | I felt like I belonged and that I had a voice. |
| 107 | 00:08:58,162 | 00:09:03,124 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 108 | 00:09:03,125 | 00:09:05,126 | I started to develop ways | I started to develop ways |
| 109 | 00:09:05,127 | 00:09:07,379 | of critically thinking about things, | of critically thinking about things, |
| 110 | 00:09:07,380 | 00:09:09,548 | which I'd never had to do before. | which I'd never had to do before. |
| 111 | 00:09:09,549 | 00:09:11,383 | I had to make decisions | I had to make decisions |
| 112 | 00:09:11,384 | 00:09:13,969 | on how I was going to approach a step | on how I was going to approach a step |
| 113 | 00:09:13,970 | 00:09:16,638 | or using parts of my brain and my body | or using parts of my brain and my body |
| 114 | 00:09:16,639 | 00:09:18,640 | that I hadn't used before. | that I hadn't used before. |
| 115 | 00:09:21,060 | 00:09:24,062 | [dramatic percussive music] | [dramatic percussive music] |
| 116 | 00:09:24,063 | 00:09:32,070 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 117 | 00:09:39,870 | 00:09:42,872 | [cheers and applause] | [cheers and applause] |
| 118 | 00:09:42,873 | 00:09:46,876 | The competition is Misty Danielle Copeland. | The competition is Misty Danielle Copeland. |
| 119 | 00:09:46,877 | 00:09:49,170 | [cheers and applause] | [cheers and applause] |
| 120 | 00:09:49,171 | 00:09:52,173 | [sprightly orchestral music] | [sprightly orchestral music] |
| 121 | 00:09:52,174 | 00:10:00,181 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 122 | 00:10:19,327 | 00:10:22,329 | [cheers and applause] | [cheers and applause] |
| 123 | 00:10:34,967 | 00:10:36,301 | I got all my fouettés in. | I got all my fouettés in. |
| 124 | 00:10:36,302 | 00:10:37,594 | I'm really happy. | I'm really happy. |
| 125 | 00:10:50,608 | 00:10:52,525 | Kevin McKenzie approaches me and says, | Kevin McKenzie approaches me and says, |
| 126 | 00:10:52,526 | 00:10:54,444 | "Well, you're gonna join the studio company, | "Well, you're gonna join the studio company, |
| 127 | 00:10:54,445 | 00:10:55,945 | but before your contract starts, | but before your contract starts, |
| 128 | 00:10:55,946 | 00:10:57,947 | we would like for you to come on tour | we would like for you to come on tour |
| 129 | 00:10:57,948 | 00:11:00,867 | with the main company for two weeks in China. | with the main company for two weeks in China. |
| 130 | 00:11:00,868 | 00:11:03,620 | And that was just, like, "Oh, my God." | And that was just, like, "Oh, my God." |
| 131 | 00:11:03,621 | 00:11:04,913 | Like, "It's happening." | Like, "It's happening." |
| 132 | 00:11:04,914 | 00:11:07,332 | It's like seeing the turning point in a movie, | It's like seeing the turning point in a movie, |
| 133 | 00:11:07,333 | 00:11:08,917 | and it's happening to me right now. | and it's happening to me right now. |
| 134 | 00:11:08,918 | 00:11:11,294 | On that trip to China, I think it was in New York, | On that trip to China, I think it was in New York, |
| 135 | 00:11:11,295 | 00:11:13,171 | like, right before we left, | like, right before we left, |
| 136 | 00:11:13,172 | 00:11:15,548 | that I met Leyla, my best friend. | that I met Leyla, my best friend. |
| 137 | 00:11:15,549 | 00:11:17,801 | So right away, we clicked, and we got along, | So right away, we clicked, and we got along, |
| 138 | 00:11:17,802 | 00:11:19,594 | and we were rooming together, | and we were rooming together, |
| 139 | 00:11:19,595 | 00:11:21,721 | and we became the best of friends. | and we became the best of friends. |
| 140 | 00:11:21,722 | 00:11:23,139 | We just did everything together, | We just did everything together, |
| 141 | 00:11:23,140 | 00:11:25,141 | and we kind of had, like, this camaraderie. | and we kind of had, like, this camaraderie. |
| 142 | 00:11:25,142 | 00:11:29,229 | We would take trips to Red Lobster in Brooklyn, | We would take trips to Red Lobster in Brooklyn, |
| 143 | 00:11:29,230 | 00:11:31,648 | 'cause at the time, they didn't have one in Times Square. | 'cause at the time, they didn't have one in Times Square. |
| 144 | 00:11:31,649 | 00:11:35,527 | We would get on the train and travel | We would get on the train and travel |
| 145 | 00:11:35,528 | 00:11:36,820 | to go to some Red Lobster, | to go to some Red Lobster, |
| 146 | 00:11:36,821 | 00:11:39,364 | and sometimes, if Red Lobster was closed, | and sometimes, if Red Lobster was closed, |
| 147 | 00:11:39,365 | 00:11:41,074 | we'd go to Sizzler | we'd go to Sizzler |
| 148 | 00:11:41,075 | 00:11:42,617 | that was, like, next door. | that was, like, next door. |
| 149 | 00:11:42,618 | 00:11:44,411 | We... I don't know what it was, | We... I don't know what it was, |
| 150 | 00:11:44,412 | 00:11:45,912 | but, like, we... | but, like, we... |
| 151 | 00:11:45,913 | 00:11:47,539 | [laughs] We loved it. | [laughs] We loved it. |
| 152 | 00:11:47,540 | 00:11:49,082 | [laughs] | [laughs] |
| 153 | 00:11:49,083 | 00:11:51,501 | And then when that Red Lobster opened up in Times Square, | And then when that Red Lobster opened up in Times Square, |
| 154 | 00:11:51,502 | 00:11:52,919 | we were like, "Yes!" | we were like, "Yes!" |
| 155 | 00:11:52,920 | 00:11:54,504 | When you're in your adolescence | When you're in your adolescence |
| 156 | 00:11:54,505 | 00:11:56,506 | and you're dancing, you don't get to experience | and you're dancing, you don't get to experience |
| 157 | 00:11:56,507 | 00:11:58,633 | what normal kids get to experience. | what normal kids get to experience. |
| 158 | 00:11:58,634 | 00:12:00,427 | You don't date. You don't go to parties. | You don't date. You don't go to parties. |
| 159 | 00:12:00,428 | 00:12:02,137 | You don't... you don't hang out. | You don't... you don't hang out. |
| 160 | 00:12:02,138 | 00:12:03,304 | As soon as school is over, | As soon as school is over, |
| 161 | 00:12:03,305 | 00:12:04,889 | you're going straight to practice | you're going straight to practice |
| 162 | 00:12:04,890 | 00:12:07,434 | and to dance class. | and to dance class. |
| 163 | 00:12:07,435 | 00:12:10,520 | That was around the time that I first was being told | That was around the time that I first was being told |
| 164 | 00:12:10,521 | 00:12:12,439 | to lose weight by ABT, | to lose weight by ABT, |
| 165 | 00:12:12,440 | 00:12:14,607 | and I had no idea how to handle that. | and I had no idea how to handle that. |
| 166 | 00:12:14,608 | 00:12:17,861 | I mean, I never had to watch what I ate. | I mean, I never had to watch what I ate. |
| 167 | 00:12:17,862 | 00:12:20,280 | Like, I had no idea how to take care of my body. | Like, I had no idea how to take care of my body. |
| 168 | 00:12:20,281 | 00:12:22,198 | It was just naturally the way it was, | It was just naturally the way it was, |
| 169 | 00:12:22,199 | 00:12:24,451 | and it worked for ballet until I hit puberty, | and it worked for ballet until I hit puberty, |
| 170 | 00:12:24,452 | 00:12:25,618 | and then it all changed. | and then it all changed. |
| 171 | 00:12:32,376 | 00:12:36,045 | The skinny ideal that a lot of contemporary audiences | The skinny ideal that a lot of contemporary audiences |
| 172 | 00:12:36,046 | 00:12:38,131 | associate with ballet today | associate with ballet today |
| 173 | 00:12:38,132 | 00:12:40,633 | is strictly a modern phenomenon, | is strictly a modern phenomenon, |
| 174 | 00:12:40,634 | 00:12:44,179 | and it can actually be dated to 1963, | and it can actually be dated to 1963, |
| 175 | 00:12:44,180 | 00:12:48,349 | when George Balanchine was able to start creating | when George Balanchine was able to start creating |
| 176 | 00:12:48,350 | 00:12:50,268 | the ballet and the ballerina | the ballet and the ballerina |
| 177 | 00:12:50,269 | 00:12:51,978 | according to a vision he had, | according to a vision he had, |
| 178 | 00:12:51,979 | 00:12:54,355 | an ideal vision he had, of a dancer. | an ideal vision he had, of a dancer. |
| 179 | 00:12:54,356 | 00:12:58,777 | Post Balanchine, you get these very emaciated body types, | Post Balanchine, you get these very emaciated body types, |
| 180 | 00:12:58,778 | 00:13:01,780 | and you get no longer a woman on the stage. | and you get no longer a woman on the stage. |
| 181 | 00:13:01,781 | 00:13:04,407 | You get these prepubescent girls... | You get these prepubescent girls... |
| 182 | 00:13:04,408 | 00:13:07,702 | flat-chested, | flat-chested, |
| 183 | 00:13:07,703 | 00:13:09,329 | you know, encouraged not to eat | you know, encouraged not to eat |
| 184 | 00:13:09,330 | 00:13:12,040 | to the point of not being able to menstruate... | to the point of not being able to menstruate... |
| 185 | 00:13:12,041 | 00:13:16,002 | and, you know, that has created a huge, | and, you know, that has created a huge, |
| 186 | 00:13:16,003 | 00:13:18,880 | I think, problem in ballet. | I think, problem in ballet. |
| 187 | 00:13:18,881 | 00:13:21,883 | It literally has killed ballerinas | It literally has killed ballerinas |
| 188 | 00:13:21,884 | 00:13:26,179 | and actually doesn't need to exist at all. | and actually doesn't need to exist at all. |
| 189 | 00:13:26,180 | 00:13:29,182 | [gentle piano music] | [gentle piano music] |
| 190 | 00:13:29,183 | 00:13:37,190 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 191 | 00:13:51,580 | 00:13:53,706 | It all kind of hit me at once: | It all kind of hit me at once: |
| 192 | 00:13:53,707 | 00:13:54,999 | moving to New York, | moving to New York, |
| 193 | 00:13:55,000 | 00:13:58,169 | realizing I was the only African-American woman | realizing I was the only African-American woman |
| 194 | 00:13:58,170 | 00:14:00,922 | in a company of 80 dancers. | in a company of 80 dancers. |
| 195 | 00:14:00,923 | 00:14:04,133 | I felt like I was sinking for a while. | I felt like I was sinking for a while. |
| 196 | 00:14:04,134 | 00:14:08,805 | I felt alone in a world that had become my home, | I felt alone in a world that had become my home, |
| 197 | 00:14:08,806 | 00:14:11,015 | and it gave me mixed feelings. | and it gave me mixed feelings. |
| 198 | 00:14:11,016 | 00:14:13,893 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 199 | 00:14:19,275 | 00:14:20,775 | I was coming home at night | I was coming home at night |
| 200 | 00:14:20,776 | 00:14:23,236 | and just feeling so bad about myself, | and just feeling so bad about myself, |
| 201 | 00:14:23,237 | 00:14:25,196 | and I would call Krispy Kreme, | and I would call Krispy Kreme, |
| 202 | 00:14:25,197 | 00:14:29,325 | and they told me they only delivered to... | and they told me they only delivered to... |
| 203 | 00:14:29,326 | 00:14:31,369 | to, like, big corporations, so I was like, | to, like, big corporations, so I was like, |
| 204 | 00:14:31,370 | 00:14:33,371 | "Okay, yeah, I'm a corporation. | "Okay, yeah, I'm a corporation. |
| 205 | 00:14:33,372 | 00:14:35,206 | Can I have two dozen doughnuts?" | Can I have two dozen doughnuts?" |
| 206 | 00:14:35,207 | 00:14:37,458 | And they'd drop them off, and I would eat | And they'd drop them off, and I would eat |
| 207 | 00:14:37,459 | 00:14:39,294 | a dozen doughnuts in one sitting. | a dozen doughnuts in one sitting. |
| 208 | 00:14:39,295 | 00:14:42,672 | I was overeating because I felt | I was overeating because I felt |
| 209 | 00:14:42,673 | 00:14:44,674 | so bad about myself. | so bad about myself. |
| 210 | 00:14:46,176 | 00:14:49,262 | I just started this pattern of, like, feeling so ashamed | I just started this pattern of, like, feeling so ashamed |
| 211 | 00:14:49,263 | 00:14:51,347 | that I didn't even want to come to class in the morning. | that I didn't even want to come to class in the morning. |
| 212 | 00:14:51,348 | 00:14:53,516 | I didn't want to stare at myself in the mirror. | I didn't want to stare at myself in the mirror. |
| 213 | 00:15:04,904 | 00:15:07,322 | I first became aware of Misty Copeland | I first became aware of Misty Copeland |
| 214 | 00:15:07,323 | 00:15:10,658 | when she joined the company, the corps, | when she joined the company, the corps, |
| 215 | 00:15:10,659 | 00:15:12,535 | and I would see her in performances, | and I would see her in performances, |
| 216 | 00:15:12,536 | 00:15:14,412 | and she always stood out. | and she always stood out. |
| 217 | 00:15:14,413 | 00:15:18,750 | She had what you can't teach and you can't learn. | She had what you can't teach and you can't learn. |
| 218 | 00:15:18,751 | 00:15:22,378 | She had stage presence, and she had a fire | She had stage presence, and she had a fire |
| 219 | 00:15:22,379 | 00:15:24,714 | that the other corps-ians did not. | that the other corps-ians did not. |
| 220 | 00:15:24,715 | 00:15:27,091 | Kevin McKenzie, the artistic director of ABT, | Kevin McKenzie, the artistic director of ABT, |
| 221 | 00:15:27,092 | 00:15:28,718 | had said to me from the very beginning | had said to me from the very beginning |
| 222 | 00:15:28,719 | 00:15:32,180 | when I first mentioned how much I admired Misty | when I first mentioned how much I admired Misty |
| 223 | 00:15:32,181 | 00:15:35,350 | that he felt she had the talent to go the distance | that he felt she had the talent to go the distance |
| 224 | 00:15:35,351 | 00:15:36,517 | and to go all the way. | and to go all the way. |
| 225 | 00:15:36,518 | 00:15:39,187 | The executive director said to me, | The executive director said to me, |
| 226 | 00:15:39,188 | 00:15:41,105 | "But there's an issue. | "But there's an issue. |
| 227 | 00:15:41,106 | 00:15:43,608 | "We feel that she has all this promise, | "We feel that she has all this promise, |
| 228 | 00:15:43,609 | 00:15:46,194 | "but she lacks a bit of focus. | "but she lacks a bit of focus. |
| 229 | 00:15:46,195 | 00:15:48,112 | "And everybody adores her, | "And everybody adores her, |
| 230 | 00:15:48,113 | 00:15:51,240 | but she is doing some things that stand in her own way." | but she is doing some things that stand in her own way." |
| 231 | 00:15:51,241 | 00:15:52,951 | They did something unprecedented, | They did something unprecedented, |
| 232 | 00:15:52,952 | 00:15:54,494 | which is, they said to me, | which is, they said to me, |
| 233 | 00:15:54,495 | 00:15:57,413 | "Would you please take her under your wing? | "Would you please take her under your wing? |
| 234 | 00:15:57,414 | 00:15:59,666 | "We would like you to spend time with her. | "We would like you to spend time with her. |
| 235 | 00:15:59,667 | 00:16:03,211 | "We would like you to become her confidante... | "We would like you to become her confidante... |
| 236 | 00:16:03,212 | 00:16:04,796 | "or her consigliere, rather, | "or her consigliere, rather, |
| 237 | 00:16:04,797 | 00:16:07,715 | "because we feel she's got everything that it takes, | "because we feel she's got everything that it takes, |
| 238 | 00:16:07,716 | 00:16:12,011 | "and she just needs that older woman who can help her." | "and she just needs that older woman who can help her." |
| 239 | 00:16:12,012 | 00:16:14,973 | I began introducing her to women I knew | I began introducing her to women I knew |
| 240 | 00:16:14,974 | 00:16:17,392 | who had been the first... | who had been the first... |
| 241 | 00:16:17,393 | 00:16:19,102 | whether it was Diahann Carroll | whether it was Diahann Carroll |
| 242 | 00:16:19,103 | 00:16:22,105 | or Veronica Webb, who was the first black model | or Veronica Webb, who was the first black model |
| 243 | 00:16:22,106 | 00:16:24,399 | to have her own cosmetics contract... | to have her own cosmetics contract... |
| 244 | 00:16:24,400 | 00:16:27,694 | women who had blazed trails, to help her understand | women who had blazed trails, to help her understand |
| 245 | 00:16:27,695 | 00:16:29,612 | that she had the same potential, | that she had the same potential, |
| 246 | 00:16:29,613 | 00:16:34,158 | to give her a kind of kitchen cabinet of women | to give her a kind of kitchen cabinet of women |
| 247 | 00:16:34,159 | 00:16:36,786 | who could help her face these hurdles, | who could help her face these hurdles, |
| 248 | 00:16:36,787 | 00:16:40,289 | because as much as she was beloved in the company | because as much as she was beloved in the company |
| 249 | 00:16:40,290 | 00:16:42,291 | and she was everybody's Misty, | and she was everybody's Misty, |
| 250 | 00:16:42,292 | 00:16:44,168 | she felt very alone, | she felt very alone, |
| 251 | 00:16:44,169 | 00:16:48,214 | and she felt a lot of self-doubt. | and she felt a lot of self-doubt. |
| 252 | 00:16:48,215 | 00:16:51,092 | And as we began this process | And as we began this process |
| 253 | 00:16:51,093 | 00:16:53,177 | and we were having all our discussions | and we were having all our discussions |
| 254 | 00:16:53,178 | 00:16:55,596 | at ABT about diversity, | at ABT about diversity, |
| 255 | 00:16:55,597 | 00:16:57,390 | one of the things I had said was, | one of the things I had said was, |
| 256 | 00:16:57,391 | 00:16:58,683 | "It's only a matter of time | "It's only a matter of time |
| 257 | 00:16:58,684 | 00:17:01,728 | "before a very ugly article hits the papers | "before a very ugly article hits the papers |
| 258 | 00:17:01,729 | 00:17:04,272 | "about the lack of diversity in ballet, | "about the lack of diversity in ballet, |
| 259 | 00:17:04,273 | 00:17:05,773 | "because it's going to be noticed, | "because it's going to be noticed, |
| 260 | 00:17:05,774 | 00:17:07,108 | "and we're in the new millennium. | "and we're in the new millennium. |
| 261 | 00:17:07,109 | 00:17:09,986 | "We're not in 1952, and we still look like | "We're not in 1952, and we still look like |
| 262 | 00:17:09,987 | 00:17:12,488 | the Alabama country club in 1952." | the Alabama country club in 1952." |
| 263 | 00:17:12,489 | 00:17:14,032 | Sure enough, in the spring, | Sure enough, in the spring, |
| 264 | 00:17:14,033 | 00:17:15,950 | an article was done, saying, | an article was done, saying, |
| 265 | 00:17:15,951 | 00:17:17,493 | "Where are the black ballerinas?" | "Where are the black ballerinas?" |
| 266 | 00:17:17,494 | 00:17:21,539 | And it was the front page of the Arts & Leisure section. | And it was the front page of the Arts & Leisure section. |
| 267 | 00:17:21,540 | 00:17:23,458 | New York City Ballet was lambasted, | New York City Ballet was lambasted, |
| 268 | 00:17:23,459 | 00:17:25,376 | and we were lambasted, | and we were lambasted, |
| 269 | 00:17:25,377 | 00:17:28,046 | and Misty called me crying. | and Misty called me crying. |
| 270 | 00:17:28,047 | 00:17:30,173 | She was crying, and she was saying, | She was crying, and she was saying, |
| 271 | 00:17:30,174 | 00:17:31,257 | "I look at this, and I think, | "I look at this, and I think, |
| 272 | 00:17:31,258 | 00:17:33,051 | '"Why am I even bothering? | '"Why am I even bothering? |
| 273 | 00:17:33,052 | 00:17:34,343 | '"Why am I doing what I'm doing? | '"Why am I doing what I'm doing? |
| 274 | 00:17:34,344 | 00:17:35,636 | There's no hope."' | There's no hope."' |
| 275 | 00:17:35,637 | 00:17:38,639 | [piano music] | [piano music] |
| 276 | 00:17:38,640 | 00:17:46,647 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 277 | 00:17:48,150 | 00:17:51,277 | I can tell you that I have been writing about this idea | I can tell you that I have been writing about this idea |
| 278 | 00:17:51,278 | 00:17:55,323 | of the color of ballet since at least the late '80s. | of the color of ballet since at least the late '80s. |
| 279 | 00:17:55,324 | 00:17:57,366 | In fact, I have a story from 1990 | In fact, I have a story from 1990 |
| 280 | 00:17:57,367 | 00:17:59,494 | I just kind of refreshed myself with, | I just kind of refreshed myself with, |
| 281 | 00:17:59,495 | 00:18:02,371 | just to see what has changed, what has stayed the same. | just to see what has changed, what has stayed the same. |
| 282 | 00:18:02,372 | 00:18:05,166 | And I would say that unfortunately, | And I would say that unfortunately, |
| 283 | 00:18:05,167 | 00:18:06,876 | a lot has stayed the same. | a lot has stayed the same. |
| 284 | 00:18:06,877 | 00:18:09,837 | It is still a ballet blanc, so to speak, you know? | It is still a ballet blanc, so to speak, you know? |
| 285 | 00:18:09,838 | 00:18:15,176 | It's very difficult to see people of color | It's very difficult to see people of color |
| 286 | 00:18:15,177 | 00:18:19,180 | adopt major roles in the classical repertoire. | adopt major roles in the classical repertoire. |
| 287 | 00:18:19,181 | 00:18:22,266 | [woman speaking indistinctly] | [woman speaking indistinctly] |
| 288 | 00:18:22,267 | 00:18:28,272 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 289 | 00:18:28,273 | 00:18:30,733 | And tombé pas de bourrée with arms, | And tombé pas de bourrée with arms, |
| 290 | 00:18:30,734 | 00:18:34,487 | and up, relevé, piqué through. | and up, relevé, piqué through. |
| 291 | 00:18:34,488 | 00:18:36,322 | The color of the skin is obviously | The color of the skin is obviously |
| 292 | 00:18:36,323 | 00:18:38,783 | a very important aspect | a very important aspect |
| 293 | 00:18:38,784 | 00:18:41,953 | that is kind of taboo. | that is kind of taboo. |
| 294 | 00:18:41,954 | 00:18:42,954 | It's about casting. | It's about casting. |
| 295 | 00:18:42,955 | 00:18:45,998 | Can you be soft and lovely, or do you have to be... | Can you be soft and lovely, or do you have to be... |
| 296 | 00:18:45,999 | 00:18:48,042 | [growls] Strong and sexy? | [growls] Strong and sexy? |
| 297 | 00:18:48,043 | 00:18:51,587 | You would make a black dancer just that sexual, | You would make a black dancer just that sexual, |
| 298 | 00:18:51,588 | 00:18:54,132 | you know, vivacious dancer, | you know, vivacious dancer, |
| 299 | 00:18:54,133 | 00:18:55,633 | but there's also other roles that | but there's also other roles that |
| 300 | 00:18:55,634 | 00:18:58,344 | you growing up as a little girl watching "Giselle" | you growing up as a little girl watching "Giselle" |
| 301 | 00:18:58,345 | 00:19:01,514 | or watching these more ethereal ballerinas, | or watching these more ethereal ballerinas, |
| 302 | 00:19:01,515 | 00:19:03,975 | which you can do, but the color of your skin, | which you can do, but the color of your skin, |
| 303 | 00:19:03,976 | 00:19:06,769 | they tend to not let you do those ballets. | they tend to not let you do those ballets. |
| 304 | 00:19:06,770 | 00:19:07,770 | And plié. | And plié. |
| 305 | 00:19:07,771 | 00:19:11,440 | Don't change and change. | Don't change and change. |
| 306 | 00:19:11,441 | 00:19:12,942 | One, two, three, fifth. | One, two, three, fifth. |
| 307 | 00:19:12,943 | 00:19:14,443 | Chassé through. | Chassé through. |
| 308 | 00:19:14,444 | 00:19:15,653 | That's it. | That's it. |
| 309 | 00:19:15,654 | 00:19:16,779 | Classical ballet is all | Classical ballet is all |
| 310 | 00:19:16,780 | 00:19:19,282 | based on these fairy-tale stories | based on these fairy-tale stories |
| 311 | 00:19:19,283 | 00:19:20,867 | many... in many times. | many... in many times. |
| 312 | 00:19:20,868 | 00:19:24,453 | And so if you don't see a black dancer | And so if you don't see a black dancer |
| 313 | 00:19:24,454 | 00:19:25,705 | or a more stocky dancer | or a more stocky dancer |
| 314 | 00:19:25,706 | 00:19:28,291 | as someone who looks like a fairy, | as someone who looks like a fairy, |
| 315 | 00:19:28,292 | 00:19:31,002 | then you're not going to be casted in that role, | then you're not going to be casted in that role, |
| 316 | 00:19:31,003 | 00:19:32,003 | which is like, | which is like, |
| 317 | 00:19:32,004 | 00:19:33,629 | "Well, who defines what a fairly looks like? | "Well, who defines what a fairly looks like? |
| 318 | 00:19:33,630 | 00:19:34,839 | Isn't it a mythical creature?" | Isn't it a mythical creature?" |
| 319 | 00:19:34,840 | 00:19:37,049 | I wouldn't go in the sun when I was little. | I wouldn't go in the sun when I was little. |
| 320 | 00:19:37,050 | 00:19:39,093 | I... when I was dancing, I was, "No sun. | I... when I was dancing, I was, "No sun. |
| 321 | 00:19:39,094 | 00:19:40,720 | "You can't get... you can't get any sun, | "You can't get... you can't get any sun, |
| 322 | 00:19:40,721 | 00:19:42,096 | 'cause you have to be as pale as possible." | 'cause you have to be as pale as possible." |
| 323 | 00:19:42,097 | 00:19:45,224 | Like, that was... that paleness is so... | Like, that was... that paleness is so... |
| 324 | 00:19:45,225 | 00:19:46,434 | was such a big thing. | was such a big thing. |
| 325 | 00:19:46,435 | 00:19:49,854 | The aesthetic of the body is so important in ballet, | The aesthetic of the body is so important in ballet, |
| 326 | 00:19:49,855 | 00:19:52,231 | and there's... you know, I think George Balanchine... | and there's... you know, I think George Balanchine... |
| 327 | 00:19:52,232 | 00:19:54,108 | and forgive me if I'm, you know, not... | and forgive me if I'm, you know, not... |
| 328 | 00:19:54,109 | 00:19:57,445 | I'm not gonna quote him, but I believe George Balanchine | I'm not gonna quote him, but I believe George Balanchine |
| 329 | 00:19:57,446 | 00:19:59,864 | said something to the effect of, | said something to the effect of, |
| 330 | 00:19:59,865 | 00:20:01,073 | "You know, the skin of a dancer | "You know, the skin of a dancer |
| 331 | 00:20:01,074 | 00:20:03,951 | should be that of a freshly peeled apple," | should be that of a freshly peeled apple," |
| 332 | 00:20:03,952 | 00:20:05,828 | and I'm not that. | and I'm not that. |
| 333 | 00:20:05,829 | 00:20:08,873 | I turn more into, you know... | I turn more into, you know... |
| 334 | 00:20:08,874 | 00:20:13,294 | I'm the shade of a chestnut come summertime. | I'm the shade of a chestnut come summertime. |
| 335 | 00:20:13,295 | 00:20:17,632 | So we got to figure this out. | So we got to figure this out. |
| 336 | 00:20:17,633 | 00:20:21,177 | Every dancer that goes through the process | Every dancer that goes through the process |
| 337 | 00:20:21,178 | 00:20:23,763 | the way I did, through the school, | the way I did, through the school, |
| 338 | 00:20:23,764 | 00:20:27,225 | through the company, you audition, | through the company, you audition, |
| 339 | 00:20:27,226 | 00:20:30,186 | you're a snowflake for "Nutcracker," | you're a snowflake for "Nutcracker," |
| 340 | 00:20:30,187 | 00:20:34,023 | and you... you're selected | and you... you're selected |
| 341 | 00:20:34,024 | 00:20:35,399 | after you do a season of "Nutcracker," | after you do a season of "Nutcracker," |
| 342 | 00:20:35,400 | 00:20:36,859 | and then you get into the company. | and then you get into the company. |
| 343 | 00:20:36,860 | 00:20:38,694 | In my case, that was not the case. | In my case, that was not the case. |
| 344 | 00:20:38,695 | 00:20:39,695 | I saw my friends... | I saw my friends... |
| 345 | 00:20:39,696 | 00:20:42,031 | It was like my car was going five miles an hour | It was like my car was going five miles an hour |
| 346 | 00:20:42,032 | 00:20:45,409 | and everyone else was going, you know, 75. | and everyone else was going, you know, 75. |
| 347 | 00:20:45,410 | 00:20:49,455 | And I saw my friends just getting into... | And I saw my friends just getting into... |
| 348 | 00:20:49,456 | 00:20:51,540 | into the company, you know? | into the company, you know? |
| 349 | 00:20:51,541 | 00:20:53,042 | They were all snowflakes, | They were all snowflakes, |
| 350 | 00:20:53,043 | 00:20:57,088 | and I was sitting on the sidelines melting... | and I was sitting on the sidelines melting... |
| 351 | 00:20:57,089 | 00:21:00,883 | my spirit melting, my esteem melting. | my spirit melting, my esteem melting. |
| 352 | 00:21:00,884 | 00:21:03,928 | I had done all this hard work, and why wasn't I a snowflake? | I had done all this hard work, and why wasn't I a snowflake? |
| 353 | 00:21:04,763 | 00:21:07,765 | [dramatic piano music] | [dramatic piano music] |
| 354 | 00:21:07,766 | 00:21:10,434 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 355 | 00:21:10,435 | 00:21:12,728 | I look upon ballet the way I look upon | I look upon ballet the way I look upon |
| 356 | 00:21:12,729 | 00:21:14,188 | the symphony orchestra. | the symphony orchestra. |
| 357 | 00:21:14,189 | 00:21:17,191 | They are some of the last bastions | They are some of the last bastions |
| 358 | 00:21:17,192 | 00:21:19,986 | of white supremacy. | of white supremacy. |
| 359 | 00:21:19,987 | 00:21:21,320 | And what's interesting is, | And what's interesting is, |
| 360 | 00:21:21,321 | 00:21:23,572 | if you would talk to these artistic directors | if you would talk to these artistic directors |
| 361 | 00:21:23,573 | 00:21:25,116 | of these ballet companies | of these ballet companies |
| 362 | 00:21:25,117 | 00:21:26,450 | or the conductors of the... | or the conductors of the... |
| 363 | 00:21:26,451 | 00:21:28,160 | they... they don't know. | they... they don't know. |
| 364 | 00:21:28,161 | 00:21:29,161 | That's the problem. | That's the problem. |
| 365 | 00:21:29,162 | 00:21:32,206 | They don't realize that they are | They don't realize that they are |
| 366 | 00:21:32,207 | 00:21:34,208 | at the service of... | at the service of... |
| 367 | 00:21:34,209 | 00:21:36,294 | they are the lackeys of racism. | they are the lackeys of racism. |
| 368 | 00:21:37,754 | 00:21:39,672 | I feel like a lot of the time, | I feel like a lot of the time, |
| 369 | 00:21:39,673 | 00:21:43,592 | what I'm being judged on is my aesthetic, | what I'm being judged on is my aesthetic, |
| 370 | 00:21:43,593 | 00:21:48,222 | and it may not be said, but I feel like I just... | and it may not be said, but I feel like I just... |
| 371 | 00:21:48,223 | 00:21:49,432 | a lot of the time, I don't think | a lot of the time, I don't think |
| 372 | 00:21:49,433 | 00:21:52,184 | that the classical ballet world will ever accept me | that the classical ballet world will ever accept me |
| 373 | 00:21:52,185 | 00:21:53,894 | because I'm something different. | because I'm something different. |
| 374 | 00:21:53,895 | 00:21:59,317 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 375 | 00:21:59,318 | 00:22:01,277 | What you're looking for in ballet | What you're looking for in ballet |
| 376 | 00:22:01,278 | 00:22:07,074 | is assimilation and uniformity, okay? | is assimilation and uniformity, okay? |
| 377 | 00:22:07,075 | 00:22:10,411 | Even for a soloist who's doing a solo, | Even for a soloist who's doing a solo, |
| 378 | 00:22:10,412 | 00:22:12,663 | I mean, it's kind of still in this uniform. | I mean, it's kind of still in this uniform. |
| 379 | 00:22:12,664 | 00:22:14,165 | It's not... I hate to say it, | It's not... I hate to say it, |
| 380 | 00:22:14,166 | 00:22:15,291 | but I don't feel like ballet, | but I don't feel like ballet, |
| 381 | 00:22:15,292 | 00:22:16,709 | even with the best of choreography, | even with the best of choreography, |
| 382 | 00:22:16,710 | 00:22:19,211 | is so much about individual creativity | is so much about individual creativity |
| 383 | 00:22:19,212 | 00:22:21,630 | or showing the individual. | or showing the individual. |
| 384 | 00:22:21,631 | 00:22:24,300 | That's an issue for black ballerinas | That's an issue for black ballerinas |
| 385 | 00:22:24,301 | 00:22:26,635 | in terms of, like, fitting into the mold, | in terms of, like, fitting into the mold, |
| 386 | 00:22:26,636 | 00:22:28,304 | you know, fitting into the box. | you know, fitting into the box. |
| 387 | 00:22:28,305 | 00:22:34,518 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 388 | 00:22:34,519 | 00:22:37,313 | I think that people do make judgment | I think that people do make judgment |
| 389 | 00:22:37,314 | 00:22:39,148 | based on, maybe, something they're not even | based on, maybe, something they're not even |
| 390 | 00:22:39,149 | 00:22:40,816 | consciously aware of, | consciously aware of, |
| 391 | 00:22:40,817 | 00:22:42,610 | and it may be the fact that I'm black. | and it may be the fact that I'm black. |
| 392 | 00:22:42,611 | 00:22:44,528 | It may be the fact that I have a large chest. | It may be the fact that I have a large chest. |
| 393 | 00:22:44,529 | 00:22:46,822 | It may be the fact that I'm muscular. | It may be the fact that I'm muscular. |
| 394 | 00:22:46,823 | 00:22:51,035 | They're reaching for change in the classical ballet world | They're reaching for change in the classical ballet world |
| 395 | 00:22:51,036 | 00:22:53,120 | because they think the art form is dying, | because they think the art form is dying, |
| 396 | 00:22:53,121 | 00:22:56,624 | but if there isn't change, how can it continue and grow? | but if there isn't change, how can it continue and grow? |
| 397 | 00:22:56,625 | 00:22:59,585 | I think there has to be change happening. | I think there has to be change happening. |
| 398 | 00:23:22,567 | 00:23:25,778 | Just over the course of a couple of years, | Just over the course of a couple of years, |
| 399 | 00:23:25,779 | 00:23:28,864 | there began to be a change. | there began to be a change. |
| 400 | 00:23:31,076 | 00:23:32,660 | Kevin McKenzie said to me, | Kevin McKenzie said to me, |
| 401 | 00:23:32,661 | 00:23:35,079 | "She's carrying herself differently. | "She's carrying herself differently. |
| 402 | 00:23:35,080 | 00:23:36,956 | She is never late." | She is never late." |
| 403 | 00:23:36,957 | 00:23:38,582 | A focus happened. | A focus happened. |
| 404 | 00:23:38,583 | 00:23:41,585 | [piano music] | [piano music] |
| 405 | 00:23:41,586 | 00:23:44,213 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 406 | 00:23:44,214 | 00:23:47,967 | When she realized that she could represent | When she realized that she could represent |
| 407 | 00:23:47,968 | 00:23:49,802 | something even bigger, | something even bigger, |
| 408 | 00:23:49,803 | 00:23:51,637 | not just a talented dancer | not just a talented dancer |
| 409 | 00:23:51,638 | 00:23:54,473 | who happened to be African-American | who happened to be African-American |
| 410 | 00:23:54,474 | 00:23:58,102 | but a talented dancer who... you can be like this too. | but a talented dancer who... you can be like this too. |
| 411 | 00:23:58,103 | 00:24:00,855 | Like, it's okay for you to do ballet. | Like, it's okay for you to do ballet. |
| 412 | 00:24:00,856 | 00:24:02,106 | It can be cool. | It can be cool. |
| 413 | 00:24:02,107 | 00:24:04,608 | Your body type isn't going to hold you back. | Your body type isn't going to hold you back. |
| 414 | 00:24:04,609 | 00:24:06,277 | You can still become this beautiful dancer. | You can still become this beautiful dancer. |
| 415 | 00:24:06,278 | 00:24:07,611 | I think when she realized | I think when she realized |
| 416 | 00:24:07,612 | 00:24:09,738 | that she had that opportunity to do that, | that she had that opportunity to do that, |
| 417 | 00:24:09,739 | 00:24:12,116 | it became less about just herself | it became less about just herself |
| 418 | 00:24:12,117 | 00:24:14,493 | and more about what she can do to change the world. | and more about what she can do to change the world. |
| 419 | 00:24:14,494 | 00:24:19,248 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 420 | 00:24:19,249 | 00:24:21,417 | There's a private moment that's my favorite moment, | There's a private moment that's my favorite moment, |
| 421 | 00:24:21,418 | 00:24:24,837 | which is the day she called me to say | which is the day she called me to say |
| 422 | 00:24:24,838 | 00:24:26,547 | that she had been promoted, | that she had been promoted, |
| 423 | 00:24:26,548 | 00:24:29,300 | and we were both just crying on the phone, | and we were both just crying on the phone, |
| 424 | 00:24:29,301 | 00:24:31,302 | because there it was. | because there it was. |
| 425 | 00:24:33,263 | 00:24:36,265 | [somber violin and piano music] | [somber violin and piano music] |
| 426 | 00:24:36,266 | 00:26:38,012 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 427 | 00:27:36,946 | 00:27:38,989 | When she first called me and told me, | When she first called me and told me, |
| 428 | 00:27:38,990 | 00:27:41,075 | "Oh, my God, I'm gonna be the Firebird," | "Oh, my God, I'm gonna be the Firebird," |
| 429 | 00:27:41,076 | 00:27:43,243 | now, again, I'm not the ballet expert, | now, again, I'm not the ballet expert, |
| 430 | 00:27:43,244 | 00:27:44,828 | so I don't know what "The Firebird" is. | so I don't know what "The Firebird" is. |
| 431 | 00:27:44,829 | 00:27:46,955 | So Raven Wilkinson, who I'm sure she's told you, | So Raven Wilkinson, who I'm sure she's told you, |
| 432 | 00:27:46,956 | 00:27:47,956 | the legendary ballerina... | the legendary ballerina... |
| 433 | 00:27:47,957 | 00:27:48,957 | I called Raven, | I called Raven, |
| 434 | 00:27:48,958 | 00:27:51,418 | because Raven's my history monitor, | because Raven's my history monitor, |
| 435 | 00:27:51,419 | 00:27:53,712 | and I said, "Do you know if a black woman | and I said, "Do you know if a black woman |
| 436 | 00:27:53,713 | 00:27:56,382 | has ever performed 'Firebird'... the Firebird?" | has ever performed 'Firebird'... the Firebird?" |
| 437 | 00:27:56,383 | 00:27:58,175 | And she said, "Well, yeah, Dance Theatre of Harlem." | And she said, "Well, yeah, Dance Theatre of Harlem." |
| 438 | 00:27:58,176 | 00:27:59,677 | I said, "No, no, at one of the majors, | I said, "No, no, at one of the majors, |
| 439 | 00:27:59,678 | 00:28:01,970 | like City Ballet, American Ballet Theatre?" | like City Ballet, American Ballet Theatre?" |
| 440 | 00:28:01,971 | 00:28:02,971 | And she said, "No." | And she said, "No." |
| 441 | 00:28:02,972 | 00:28:04,264 | I said, "Well, guess what. | I said, "Well, guess what. |
| 442 | 00:28:04,265 | 00:28:06,141 | "You got to buy a ticket when they go on sale, | "You got to buy a ticket when they go on sale, |
| 443 | 00:28:06,142 | 00:28:07,434 | because Misty is gonna be the Firebird," | because Misty is gonna be the Firebird," |
| 444 | 00:28:07,435 | 00:28:09,019 | and she said, "Which one?" | and she said, "Which one?" |
| 445 | 00:28:09,020 | 00:28:10,396 | [laughs] She said, "Which one?" | [laughs] She said, "Which one?" |
| 446 | 00:28:10,397 | 00:28:11,730 | And I said, "No, the Firebird." | And I said, "No, the Firebird." |
| 447 | 00:28:11,731 | 00:28:13,857 | She said, the Firebird?" | She said, the Firebird?" |
| 448 | 00:28:13,858 | 00:28:16,610 | "Yes, the... like, the main... like, yes." | "Yes, the... like, the main... like, yes." |
| 449 | 00:28:16,611 | 00:28:19,947 | "The Firebird" is one of the modern masterpieces, | "The Firebird" is one of the modern masterpieces, |
| 450 | 00:28:19,948 | 00:28:21,907 | both from the music standpoint | both from the music standpoint |
| 451 | 00:28:21,908 | 00:28:23,575 | and the choreographic standpoint, | and the choreographic standpoint, |
| 452 | 00:28:23,576 | 00:28:27,079 | and it was being reset by Alexei Ratmansky, | and it was being reset by Alexei Ratmansky, |
| 453 | 00:28:27,080 | 00:28:30,207 | who's widely hailed as the sort of Balanchine, | who's widely hailed as the sort of Balanchine, |
| 454 | 00:28:30,208 | 00:28:33,502 | the great choreographer, the great ballet innovator, | the great choreographer, the great ballet innovator, |
| 455 | 00:28:33,503 | 00:28:36,714 | the man who is going to save ballet from obsolescence. | the man who is going to save ballet from obsolescence. |
| 456 | 00:28:36,715 | 00:28:38,090 | And he adores Misty. | And he adores Misty. |
| 457 | 00:28:38,091 | 00:28:42,636 | I spent, like, I think it was two weeks in this studio | I spent, like, I think it was two weeks in this studio |
| 458 | 00:28:42,637 | 00:28:45,264 | just having "Firebird" created on me, | just having "Firebird" created on me, |
| 459 | 00:28:45,265 | 00:28:46,390 | which is really cool. | which is really cool. |
| 460 | 00:28:46,391 | 00:28:48,642 | Alexei came in with an idea, | Alexei came in with an idea, |
| 461 | 00:28:48,643 | 00:28:51,645 | but he allowed us to be a part of the creative process, | but he allowed us to be a part of the creative process, |
| 462 | 00:28:51,646 | 00:28:53,856 | so if he saw that, you know, | so if he saw that, you know, |
| 463 | 00:28:53,857 | 00:28:55,399 | I was attempting to do something | I was attempting to do something |
| 464 | 00:28:55,400 | 00:28:57,818 | that looked more natural to fall out of it a certain way, | that looked more natural to fall out of it a certain way, |
| 465 | 00:28:57,819 | 00:29:00,237 | then he would keep it. | then he would keep it. |
| 466 | 00:29:00,238 | 00:29:02,948 | And he allowed the three of us Firebirds | And he allowed the three of us Firebirds |
| 467 | 00:29:02,949 | 00:29:04,783 | to have our own versions | to have our own versions |
| 468 | 00:29:04,784 | 00:29:08,871 | so that it suited our bodies and abilities best. | so that it suited our bodies and abilities best. |
| 469 | 00:29:08,872 | 00:29:10,998 | In a company of 80 dancers | In a company of 80 dancers |
| 470 | 00:29:10,999 | 00:29:13,208 | where you've got a lot of stars... | where you've got a lot of stars... |
| 471 | 00:29:13,209 | 00:29:15,878 | and he could have picked anyone... | and he could have picked anyone... |
| 472 | 00:29:15,879 | 00:29:17,838 | for him to pick someone | for him to pick someone |
| 473 | 00:29:17,839 | 00:29:21,467 | who's not a prima ballerina but a soloist | who's not a prima ballerina but a soloist |
| 474 | 00:29:21,468 | 00:29:24,762 | and then to pick someone black... | and then to pick someone black... |
| 475 | 00:29:24,763 | 00:29:27,306 | a ballet of this magnitude, | a ballet of this magnitude, |
| 476 | 00:29:27,307 | 00:29:29,099 | if we look in the annals of ballet | if we look in the annals of ballet |
| 477 | 00:29:29,100 | 00:29:31,685 | going back to Louis xlv, | going back to Louis xlv, |
| 478 | 00:29:31,686 | 00:29:33,771 | it's never happened before. | it's never happened before. |
| 479 | 00:29:33,772 | 00:29:36,315 | It is... it's monumental. | It is... it's monumental. |
| 480 | 00:29:36,316 | 00:29:39,485 | The entire dance world was agog, | The entire dance world was agog, |
| 481 | 00:29:39,486 | 00:29:41,695 | and certainly every person of color | and certainly every person of color |
| 482 | 00:29:41,696 | 00:29:44,698 | involved in the dance world was standing up and cheering, | involved in the dance world was standing up and cheering, |
| 483 | 00:29:44,699 | 00:29:46,867 | because we'd been waiting for this moment. | because we'd been waiting for this moment. |
| 484 | 00:29:49,078 | 00:29:50,496 | Susan Fales-Hill put together | Susan Fales-Hill put together |
| 485 | 00:29:50,497 | 00:29:52,331 | this really great group of women. | this really great group of women. |
| 486 | 00:29:52,332 | 00:29:54,208 | She had called me and said, | She had called me and said, |
| 487 | 00:29:54,209 | 00:29:55,834 | "Tracey, I want you to experience | "Tracey, I want you to experience |
| 488 | 00:29:55,835 | 00:29:58,587 | a really magical evening." | a really magical evening." |
| 489 | 00:29:58,588 | 00:30:01,799 | I invited Debra Lee, the head of BET. | I invited Debra Lee, the head of BET. |
| 490 | 00:30:01,800 | 00:30:07,304 | I invited Marva Smalls, who's at MTV, Vacom. | I invited Marva Smalls, who's at MTV, Vacom. |
| 491 | 00:30:07,305 | 00:30:08,514 | Star Jones was there. | Star Jones was there. |
| 492 | 00:30:08,515 | 00:30:09,515 | There was just a myriad | There was just a myriad |
| 493 | 00:30:09,516 | 00:30:12,893 | of incredibly accomplished black women in the room... | of incredibly accomplished black women in the room... |
| 494 | 00:30:12,894 | 00:30:15,729 | in the box, actually, and we were all there | in the box, actually, and we were all there |
| 495 | 00:30:15,730 | 00:30:19,024 | sharing in the triumph of Misty dancing. | sharing in the triumph of Misty dancing. |
| 496 | 00:30:19,025 | 00:30:22,110 | The makeup of the crowd was completely different | The makeup of the crowd was completely different |
| 497 | 00:30:22,111 | 00:30:25,781 | than you would see on any other given day at the Met, | than you would see on any other given day at the Met, |
| 498 | 00:30:25,782 | 00:30:29,576 | and the power of one person to change the... | and the power of one person to change the... |
| 499 | 00:30:29,577 | 00:30:34,456 | the crowd who comes to see dance, | the crowd who comes to see dance, |
| 500 | 00:30:34,457 | 00:30:36,708 | I think that was really special. | I think that was really special. |
| 501 | 00:30:36,709 | 00:30:38,502 | For a black woman to be the face | For a black woman to be the face |
| 502 | 00:30:38,503 | 00:30:40,337 | of American Ballet Theatre's spring season | of American Ballet Theatre's spring season |
| 503 | 00:30:40,338 | 00:30:42,005 | at the Metropolitan Opera House, | at the Metropolitan Opera House, |
| 504 | 00:30:42,006 | 00:30:44,424 | we knew that something was happening. | we knew that something was happening. |
| 505 | 00:30:44,425 | 00:30:47,886 | My manager, Gilda, was waiting for me outside, | My manager, Gilda, was waiting for me outside, |
| 506 | 00:30:47,887 | 00:30:50,389 | and I walked out, and I looked up, | and I walked out, and I looked up, |
| 507 | 00:30:50,390 | 00:30:53,267 | and I saw that the whole front of the Met | and I saw that the whole front of the Met |
| 508 | 00:30:53,268 | 00:30:55,310 | was covered in this woman | was covered in this woman |
| 509 | 00:30:55,311 | 00:30:57,813 | with her breasts out and arched back, | with her breasts out and arched back, |
| 510 | 00:30:57,814 | 00:31:00,023 | and I was like, "Oh, my gosh. | and I was like, "Oh, my gosh. |
| 511 | 00:31:00,024 | 00:31:03,443 | That's a curvy black woman on the front of the Met, | That's a curvy black woman on the front of the Met, |
| 512 | 00:31:03,444 | 00:31:04,528 | and it's me." | and it's me." |
| 513 | 00:31:04,529 | 00:31:05,946 | [laughs] | [laughs] |
| 514 | 00:31:05,947 | 00:31:09,658 | And I just... we both cried, because it meant so much | And I just... we both cried, because it meant so much |
| 515 | 00:31:09,659 | 00:31:12,035 | for the African-American community | for the African-American community |
| 516 | 00:31:12,036 | 00:31:14,538 | to feel welcome in that space. | to feel welcome in that space. |
| 517 | 00:31:14,539 | 00:31:16,123 | When she entered the stage, | When she entered the stage, |
| 518 | 00:31:16,124 | 00:31:18,709 | and it just seemed like collectively, | and it just seemed like collectively, |
| 519 | 00:31:18,710 | 00:31:21,795 | we all kind of leaned forward, | we all kind of leaned forward, |
| 520 | 00:31:21,796 | 00:31:26,091 | and it was just the sense | and it was just the sense |
| 521 | 00:31:26,092 | 00:31:29,845 | of pride and joy | of pride and joy |
| 522 | 00:31:29,846 | 00:31:34,474 | to just see this talented, strong, | to just see this talented, strong, |
| 523 | 00:31:34,475 | 00:31:39,313 | graceful, amazing woman grace the stage. | graceful, amazing woman grace the stage. |
| 524 | 00:31:39,314 | 00:31:41,565 | She came out to give her bows at the end. | She came out to give her bows at the end. |
| 525 | 00:31:41,566 | 00:31:42,691 | It was quite amazing. | It was quite amazing. |
| 526 | 00:31:42,692 | 00:31:46,153 | There were people in the crowd who were actually crying. | There were people in the crowd who were actually crying. |
| 527 | 00:31:46,154 | 00:31:49,156 | There was an emotional connection to her | There was an emotional connection to her |
| 528 | 00:31:49,157 | 00:31:51,658 | and to the fact that this was an historic performance. | and to the fact that this was an historic performance. |
| 529 | 00:31:51,659 | 00:31:53,660 | To sit in that theater that night, | To sit in that theater that night, |
| 530 | 00:31:53,661 | 00:31:59,499 | surrounded by African-American women of accomplishment, | surrounded by African-American women of accomplishment, |
| 531 | 00:31:59,500 | 00:32:05,172 | watching a ballerina take center stage | watching a ballerina take center stage |
| 532 | 00:32:05,173 | 00:32:07,883 | in one of the most important works | in one of the most important works |
| 533 | 00:32:07,884 | 00:32:10,886 | just felt like her life had come full circle. | just felt like her life had come full circle. |
| 534 | 00:32:10,887 | 00:32:12,429 | Afterwards, they had a sort of | Afterwards, they had a sort of |
| 535 | 00:32:12,430 | 00:32:14,014 | a meet and greet set up on the stage. | a meet and greet set up on the stage. |
| 536 | 00:32:14,015 | 00:32:15,015 | They had tables set up. | They had tables set up. |
| 537 | 00:32:15,016 | 00:32:17,059 | I said to Misty, "Wow, you know, I was knocked out. | I said to Misty, "Wow, you know, I was knocked out. |
| 538 | 00:32:17,060 | 00:32:18,060 | "This is amazing. | "This is amazing. |
| 539 | 00:32:18,061 | 00:32:19,061 | Congratulations." | Congratulations." |
| 540 | 00:32:19,062 | 00:32:20,437 | You know, she had a beautiful outfit on, | You know, she had a beautiful outfit on, |
| 541 | 00:32:20,438 | 00:32:23,482 | she had some high heels on, and she looked perfectly fine, | she had some high heels on, and she looked perfectly fine, |
| 542 | 00:32:23,483 | 00:32:27,194 | and she said to me, "I'm in a lot of pain, Nelson." | and she said to me, "I'm in a lot of pain, Nelson." |
| 543 | 00:32:27,195 | 00:32:28,862 | And I was like, "Whoa, you would never | And I was like, "Whoa, you would never |
| 544 | 00:32:28,863 | 00:32:30,489 | have known that by watching her," | have known that by watching her," |
| 545 | 00:32:30,490 | 00:32:33,325 | but it turned out that she'd been dancing | but it turned out that she'd been dancing |
| 546 | 00:32:33,326 | 00:32:38,038 | with severe fractures in her shin. | with severe fractures in her shin. |
| 547 | 00:32:54,764 | 00:32:57,182 | That night, I came into the theater, | That night, I came into the theater, |
| 548 | 00:32:57,183 | 00:32:58,850 | and I was in so much pain, | and I was in so much pain, |
| 549 | 00:32:58,851 | 00:33:01,812 | I didn't know how I was gonna get onstage. | I didn't know how I was gonna get onstage. |
| 550 | 00:33:01,813 | 00:33:03,397 | I knew it was there, | I knew it was there, |
| 551 | 00:33:03,398 | 00:33:05,148 | but I kind of pushed it to the side, | but I kind of pushed it to the side, |
| 552 | 00:33:05,149 | 00:33:09,861 | because I knew how vital that season was for me. | because I knew how vital that season was for me. |
| 553 | 00:33:09,862 | 00:33:13,240 | The opportunity to do principal roles as a soloist | The opportunity to do principal roles as a soloist |
| 554 | 00:33:13,241 | 00:33:15,492 | I didn't think was something that would come again. | I didn't think was something that would come again. |
| 555 | 00:33:17,036 | 00:33:20,706 | Knowing how much of the black community | Knowing how much of the black community |
| 556 | 00:33:20,707 | 00:33:23,959 | was coming to the Met, maybe for the first time, | was coming to the Met, maybe for the first time, |
| 557 | 00:33:23,960 | 00:33:26,795 | to support me, I understood | to support me, I understood |
| 558 | 00:33:26,796 | 00:33:28,255 | that I had to make it work. | that I had to make it work. |
| 559 | 00:33:28,256 | 00:33:32,217 | I knew that that night stood for something | I knew that that night stood for something |
| 560 | 00:33:32,218 | 00:33:34,136 | so much bigger than me | so much bigger than me |
| 561 | 00:33:34,137 | 00:33:37,556 | and beyond what I can even imagine, | and beyond what I can even imagine, |
| 562 | 00:33:37,557 | 00:33:39,558 | so I knew that no matter what I did | so I knew that no matter what I did |
| 563 | 00:33:39,559 | 00:33:42,185 | on the stage that night, | on the stage that night, |
| 564 | 00:33:42,186 | 00:33:45,147 | it was going to be a historical evening. | it was going to be a historical evening. |
| 565 | 00:33:46,649 | 00:33:48,650 | I think a dancer's pain tolerance | I think a dancer's pain tolerance |
| 566 | 00:33:48,651 | 00:33:51,445 | is on another level that I... | is on another level that I... |
| 567 | 00:33:51,446 | 00:33:54,781 | I have no idea if it can be compared | I have no idea if it can be compared |
| 568 | 00:33:54,782 | 00:33:56,783 | to anyone or anything. | to anyone or anything. |
| 569 | 00:33:56,784 | 00:33:59,828 | When you're onstage and you're standing on one leg | When you're onstage and you're standing on one leg |
| 570 | 00:33:59,829 | 00:34:03,665 | for, you know, five, ten minutes at a time | for, you know, five, ten minutes at a time |
| 571 | 00:34:03,666 | 00:34:05,584 | and you're supposed to look like a beautiful swan | and you're supposed to look like a beautiful swan |
| 572 | 00:34:05,585 | 00:34:06,960 | and you have sweat dripping in your eye | and you have sweat dripping in your eye |
| 573 | 00:34:06,961 | 00:34:09,212 | and your butt's cramping and your feet are cramping | and your butt's cramping and your feet are cramping |
| 574 | 00:34:09,213 | 00:34:10,338 | and then all of a sudden, | and then all of a sudden, |
| 575 | 00:34:10,339 | 00:34:14,426 | you have to get up and start jumping and moving, | you have to get up and start jumping and moving, |
| 576 | 00:34:14,427 | 00:34:17,054 | that pain is something that every dancer deals with, | that pain is something that every dancer deals with, |
| 577 | 00:34:17,055 | 00:34:18,930 | and no one really talks about it. | and no one really talks about it. |
| 578 | 00:34:22,060 | 00:34:24,478 | Pointe shoes are uncomfortable. | Pointe shoes are uncomfortable. |
| 579 | 00:34:24,479 | 00:34:25,937 | They hurt. | They hurt. |
| 580 | 00:34:25,938 | 00:34:28,565 | Your feet, when you first learn how to dance en point, | Your feet, when you first learn how to dance en point, |
| 581 | 00:34:28,566 | 00:34:31,401 | are going to bleed, sometimes through your shoes. | are going to bleed, sometimes through your shoes. |
| 582 | 00:34:31,402 | 00:34:32,652 | That's unusual. | That's unusual. |
| 583 | 00:34:32,653 | 00:34:33,653 | [laughs] | [laughs] |
| 584 | 00:34:33,654 | 00:34:34,821 | Why do we do that? | Why do we do that? |
| 585 | 00:34:34,822 | 00:34:38,075 | As soon as dance becomes more athletic, | As soon as dance becomes more athletic, |
| 586 | 00:34:38,076 | 00:34:42,871 | which it has definitely become in the 21st century, | which it has definitely become in the 21st century, |
| 587 | 00:34:42,872 | 00:34:47,918 | the body is just beaten up way too much. | the body is just beaten up way too much. |
| 588 | 00:34:47,919 | 00:34:50,587 | Even a great dancer like Mikhail Baryshnikov, | Even a great dancer like Mikhail Baryshnikov, |
| 589 | 00:34:50,588 | 00:34:52,380 | I mean, he blew his knees out from... | I mean, he blew his knees out from... |
| 590 | 00:34:52,381 | 00:34:55,634 | like, if you jump high, you land hard. | like, if you jump high, you land hard. |
| 591 | 00:34:55,635 | 00:34:57,928 | Here she is dealing with still pain, | Here she is dealing with still pain, |
| 592 | 00:34:57,929 | 00:34:59,137 | trying to figure out, | trying to figure out, |
| 593 | 00:34:59,138 | 00:35:00,430 | "How am I going to deal with this? | "How am I going to deal with this? |
| 594 | 00:35:00,431 | 00:35:04,309 | "But, oh, yeah, I'm 29 years old, | "But, oh, yeah, I'm 29 years old, |
| 595 | 00:35:04,310 | 00:35:06,144 | and I'm dealing with the end of my career." | and I'm dealing with the end of my career." |
| 596 | 00:35:08,815 | 00:35:14,611 | She ended up going to a doctor who works with top athletes | She ended up going to a doctor who works with top athletes |
| 597 | 00:35:14,612 | 00:35:16,738 | at the New York Hospital for Special Surgery. | at the New York Hospital for Special Surgery. |
| 598 | 00:35:16,739 | 00:35:20,117 | He was the only person who was confident that this... | He was the only person who was confident that this... |
| 599 | 00:35:20,118 | 00:35:21,618 | that you will dance again. | that you will dance again. |
| 600 | 00:35:21,619 | 00:35:25,038 | Everyone else was telling her, "Your career is over." | Everyone else was telling her, "Your career is over." |
| 601 | 00:35:36,759 | 00:35:39,761 | [indistinct chatter] | [indistinct chatter] |
| 602 | 00:35:41,472 | 00:35:45,016 | So your diagnosis is a mid-tibia stress fracture, | So your diagnosis is a mid-tibia stress fracture, |
| 603 | 00:35:45,017 | 00:35:47,561 | which occurs very commonly in jumping athletes. | which occurs very commonly in jumping athletes. |
| 604 | 00:35:47,562 | 00:35:49,646 | So the tibia bone... which is, on her, | So the tibia bone... which is, on her, |
| 605 | 00:35:49,647 | 00:35:52,941 | the mid-shaft leg bone... it takes all the stress. | the mid-shaft leg bone... it takes all the stress. |
| 606 | 00:35:52,942 | 00:35:57,279 | Instead of breaking in half, it gets a tiny little break | Instead of breaking in half, it gets a tiny little break |
| 607 | 00:35:57,280 | 00:35:58,530 | in the cortex surface, | in the cortex surface, |
| 608 | 00:35:58,531 | 00:36:00,949 | or the outer surface, of the bone. | or the outer surface, of the bone. |
| 609 | 00:36:00,950 | 00:36:02,117 | They're very slow healing, | They're very slow healing, |
| 610 | 00:36:02,118 | 00:36:05,370 | so she spent months trying to get this to heal beforehand, | so she spent months trying to get this to heal beforehand, |
| 611 | 00:36:05,371 | 00:36:07,998 | and then we made a decision about how to treat it. | and then we made a decision about how to treat it. |
| 612 | 00:36:07,999 | 00:36:10,709 | We... our one decision was take a... put a rod. | We... our one decision was take a... put a rod. |
| 613 | 00:36:10,710 | 00:36:12,711 | One option was to take... go near her knee | One option was to take... go near her knee |
| 614 | 00:36:12,712 | 00:36:14,588 | and put a rod from here all the way down | and put a rod from here all the way down |
| 615 | 00:36:14,589 | 00:36:17,591 | the bone in her leg inside the bone. | the bone in her leg inside the bone. |
| 616 | 00:36:17,592 | 00:36:18,717 | The nice thing about that | The nice thing about that |
| 617 | 00:36:18,718 | 00:36:20,427 | is that it takes care of the whole thing. | is that it takes care of the whole thing. |
| 618 | 00:36:20,428 | 00:36:21,428 | The disadvantage is, | The disadvantage is, |
| 619 | 00:36:21,429 | 00:36:23,805 | about 20% of people have some knee pain, | about 20% of people have some knee pain, |
| 620 | 00:36:23,806 | 00:36:25,724 | and she's a jumper, so you try not | and she's a jumper, so you try not |
| 621 | 00:36:25,725 | 00:36:27,934 | to mess with her knee at all. | to mess with her knee at all. |
| 622 | 00:36:27,935 | 00:36:29,936 | We made an incision right here in the front, | We made an incision right here in the front, |
| 623 | 00:36:29,937 | 00:36:31,521 | and in that incision, | and in that incision, |
| 624 | 00:36:31,522 | 00:36:33,565 | we found the little stress fractures, | we found the little stress fractures, |
| 625 | 00:36:33,566 | 00:36:34,858 | we drilled across them with a needle | we drilled across them with a needle |
| 626 | 00:36:34,859 | 00:36:36,359 | to stimulate some bleeding, | to stimulate some bleeding, |
| 627 | 00:36:36,360 | 00:36:37,986 | we packed the bone marrow cells in there, | we packed the bone marrow cells in there, |
| 628 | 00:36:37,987 | 00:36:39,154 | and then we put the plate. | and then we put the plate. |
| 629 | 00:36:39,155 | 00:36:44,868 | When I heard the words "black dreaded line fracture," | When I heard the words "black dreaded line fracture," |
| 630 | 00:36:44,869 | 00:36:47,495 | that sounds like death to me. | that sounds like death to me. |
| 631 | 00:36:47,496 | 00:36:49,748 | Like, hearing that word, it was like, | Like, hearing that word, it was like, |
| 632 | 00:36:49,749 | 00:36:52,167 | "What does that mean?" | "What does that mean?" |
| 633 | 00:36:52,168 | 00:36:53,543 | It was scary. | It was scary. |
| 634 | 00:36:53,544 | 00:36:55,712 | And then finding out that it meant | And then finding out that it meant |
| 635 | 00:36:55,713 | 00:36:58,465 | almost a complete break through my bone... | almost a complete break through my bone... |
| 636 | 00:36:58,466 | 00:37:03,845 | it's hard to fathom that that can happen from dancing, | it's hard to fathom that that can happen from dancing, |
| 637 | 00:37:03,846 | 00:37:07,224 | but it was just impact over and over and over again, | but it was just impact over and over and over again, |
| 638 | 00:37:07,225 | 00:37:08,558 | probably through the course of a year, | probably through the course of a year, |
| 639 | 00:37:08,559 | 00:37:09,601 | that caused it. | that caused it. |
| 640 | 00:37:09,602 | 00:37:12,729 | Had I continued to dance for who knows how much longer, | Had I continued to dance for who knows how much longer, |
| 641 | 00:37:12,730 | 00:37:16,441 | my bone could have completely snapped in half. | my bone could have completely snapped in half. |
| 642 | 00:37:22,281 | 00:37:23,698 | The rest of the ballet world, | The rest of the ballet world, |
| 643 | 00:37:23,699 | 00:37:25,742 | including, I think, her company, | including, I think, her company, |
| 644 | 00:37:25,743 | 00:37:28,995 | once they realized, you know, the extent of her injuries, | once they realized, you know, the extent of her injuries, |
| 645 | 00:37:28,996 | 00:37:31,539 | I don't think anyone truly expected her | I don't think anyone truly expected her |
| 646 | 00:37:31,540 | 00:37:32,707 | to be able to come back from that. | to be able to come back from that. |
| 647 | 00:37:32,708 | 00:37:33,875 | You know, you combine | You know, you combine |
| 648 | 00:37:33,876 | 00:37:37,254 | the extent of the injury with her age, | the extent of the injury with her age, |
| 649 | 00:37:37,255 | 00:37:38,880 | the amount of wear and tear on the body, | the amount of wear and tear on the body, |
| 650 | 00:37:38,881 | 00:37:40,298 | I think that they just sort of said, | I think that they just sort of said, |
| 651 | 00:37:40,299 | 00:37:41,841 | "One plus one plus one equals three, | "One plus one plus one equals three, |
| 652 | 00:37:41,842 | 00:37:43,301 | "and you're not coming back, | "and you're not coming back, |
| 653 | 00:37:43,302 | 00:37:45,387 | "and if you do come back, you won't be able to come back | "and if you do come back, you won't be able to come back |
| 654 | 00:37:45,388 | 00:37:48,181 | and be... you won't be able to pick up where you left off." | and be... you won't be able to pick up where you left off." |
| 655 | 00:38:32,601 | 00:38:37,522 | In a company like ABT, the talent is endless. | In a company like ABT, the talent is endless. |
| 656 | 00:38:37,523 | 00:38:40,066 | The second you step out for, you know, | The second you step out for, you know, |
| 657 | 00:38:40,067 | 00:38:43,862 | the length of time an injury may take to recover from, | the length of time an injury may take to recover from, |
| 658 | 00:38:43,863 | 00:38:45,905 | you lose that window of opportunity, | you lose that window of opportunity, |
| 659 | 00:38:45,906 | 00:38:48,033 | and you may never be given the opportunity again. | and you may never be given the opportunity again. |
| 660 | 00:38:49,577 | 00:38:52,162 | But there was a lot of time spent just, like, | But there was a lot of time spent just, like, |
| 661 | 00:38:52,163 | 00:38:53,788 | overanalyzing all of that. | overanalyzing all of that. |
| 662 | 00:38:53,789 | 00:38:56,249 | Like, "What am I gonna do?" | Like, "What am I gonna do?" |
| 663 | 00:38:56,250 | 00:39:00,211 | I felt like I was gonna let down so many people | I felt like I was gonna let down so many people |
| 664 | 00:39:00,212 | 00:39:01,546 | who were, like, watching me. | who were, like, watching me. |
| 665 | 00:39:01,547 | 00:39:03,590 | Like, you're creating this path, | Like, you're creating this path, |
| 666 | 00:39:03,591 | 00:39:05,842 | and then it was like, "Okay, that's the end of it." | and then it was like, "Okay, that's the end of it." |
| 667 | 00:39:05,843 | 00:39:08,845 | [piano music] | [piano music] |
| 668 | 00:39:08,846 | 00:40:22,293 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 669 | 00:41:05,296 | 00:41:06,588 | It's been, like, seven months | It's been, like, seven months |
| 670 | 00:41:06,589 | 00:41:09,466 | since I've been working with Marjorie | since I've been working with Marjorie |
| 671 | 00:41:09,467 | 00:41:12,469 | on floor barre. | on floor barre. |
| 672 | 00:41:12,470 | 00:41:14,596 | I still have a lot to learn. | I still have a lot to learn. |
| 673 | 00:41:14,597 | 00:41:16,598 | [laughs] | [laughs] |
| 674 | 00:41:25,191 | 00:41:26,608 | Want to try it on the other side? | Want to try it on the other side? |
| 675 | 00:41:26,609 | 00:41:27,609 | Sure. | Sure. |
| 676 | 00:41:27,610 | 00:41:30,904 | If you stand at the barre the way we always do | If you stand at the barre the way we always do |
| 677 | 00:41:30,905 | 00:41:34,616 | and will continue to do, you can work your right side | and will continue to do, you can work your right side |
| 678 | 00:41:34,617 | 00:41:36,951 | and your left side differently for a lifetime | and your left side differently for a lifetime |
| 679 | 00:41:36,952 | 00:41:38,953 | or until something breaks. | or until something breaks. |
| 680 | 00:41:38,954 | 00:41:39,954 | That's true. | That's true. |
| 681 | 00:41:39,955 | 00:41:41,623 | That's the way it goes. | That's the way it goes. |
| 682 | 00:41:41,624 | 00:41:44,626 | [gentle piano music] | [gentle piano music] |
| 683 | 00:41:44,627 | 00:41:53,134 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 684 | 00:41:53,135 | 00:41:54,969 | Try not to sit in the standing hip. | Try not to sit in the standing hip. |
| 685 | 00:41:54,970 | 00:41:56,596 | Good. | Good. |
| 686 | 00:41:56,597 | 00:41:59,015 | As dancers, we know one leg goes up higher, | As dancers, we know one leg goes up higher, |
| 687 | 00:41:59,016 | 00:42:01,059 | one leg jumps better, | one leg jumps better, |
| 688 | 00:42:01,060 | 00:42:02,310 | and the other leg balances better. | and the other leg balances better. |
| 689 | 00:42:02,311 | 00:42:04,312 | Whatever that is, | Whatever that is, |
| 690 | 00:42:04,313 | 00:42:07,315 | we need to become as symmetrical as possible. | we need to become as symmetrical as possible. |
| 691 | 00:42:11,403 | 00:42:13,238 | Want to start again? | Want to start again? |
| 692 | 00:42:13,239 | 00:42:15,448 | Don't bring it up from your quad. | Don't bring it up from your quad. |
| 693 | 00:42:15,449 | 00:42:17,867 | Really lengthen through the inner thigh. | Really lengthen through the inner thigh. |
| 694 | 00:42:19,912 | 00:42:22,539 | So I was working with Marjorie maybe two months | So I was working with Marjorie maybe two months |
| 695 | 00:42:22,540 | 00:42:24,290 | before I decided to have the surgery. | before I decided to have the surgery. |
| 696 | 00:42:24,291 | 00:42:25,708 | And then Marjorie was there with me, | And then Marjorie was there with me, |
| 697 | 00:42:25,709 | 00:42:27,544 | I think, two weeks after my surgery | I think, two weeks after my surgery |
| 698 | 00:42:27,545 | 00:42:31,089 | in my apartment, helping me, you know... | in my apartment, helping me, you know... |
| 699 | 00:42:31,090 | 00:42:33,049 | I was not walking still, | I was not walking still, |
| 700 | 00:42:33,050 | 00:42:34,717 | and we were laying on the floor, | and we were laying on the floor, |
| 701 | 00:42:34,718 | 00:42:36,302 | and she was working with me | and she was working with me |
| 702 | 00:42:36,303 | 00:42:38,304 | until I literally couldn't anymore. | until I literally couldn't anymore. |
| 703 | 00:42:38,305 | 00:42:39,806 | I was just, like, exhausted. | I was just, like, exhausted. |
| 704 | 00:42:39,807 | 00:42:42,016 | She's kind of been there with me, | She's kind of been there with me, |
| 705 | 00:42:42,017 | 00:42:43,935 | literally retraining my body | literally retraining my body |
| 706 | 00:42:43,936 | 00:42:45,853 | in the middle of my professional career. | in the middle of my professional career. |
| 707 | 00:43:45,539 | 00:43:46,956 | - Middy. - Michele! | - Middy. - Michele! |
| 708 | 00:43:46,957 | 00:43:48,625 | - Hey. - Oh, my God. | - Hey. - Oh, my God. |
| 709 | 00:43:48,626 | 00:43:50,293 | I had no idea it started at 1:00. | I had no idea it started at 1:00. |
| 710 | 00:43:50,294 | 00:43:52,337 | - I'm here. - Oh, my gosh, sorry. | - I'm here. - Oh, my gosh, sorry. |
| 711 | 00:43:52,338 | 00:43:54,339 | No, it's not your... honey, you have enough to worry about. | No, it's not your... honey, you have enough to worry about. |
| 712 | 00:43:54,340 | 00:43:55,506 | Did I... I thought we said... | Did I... I thought we said... |
| 713 | 00:43:55,507 | 00:43:58,134 | You have a company to run and some roles to dance. | You have a company to run and some roles to dance. |
| 714 | 00:43:58,135 | 00:44:01,137 | [indistinct chatter] | [indistinct chatter] |
| 715 | 00:44:10,064 | 00:44:11,105 | - Hi. - How are you? | - Hi. - How are you? |
| 716 | 00:44:11,106 | 00:44:12,231 | I'm good. How are you doing? | I'm good. How are you doing? |
| 717 | 00:44:12,232 | 00:44:13,399 | Yeah, me too. | Yeah, me too. |
| 718 | 00:44:13,400 | 00:44:15,443 | I remember being in class with Michele, | I remember being in class with Michele, |
| 719 | 00:44:15,444 | 00:44:17,737 | like, sitting on the floor of Marjorie's apartment, | like, sitting on the floor of Marjorie's apartment, |
| 720 | 00:44:17,738 | 00:44:20,281 | and I was contemplating, like, | and I was contemplating, like, |
| 721 | 00:44:20,282 | 00:44:21,824 | when I was gonna go back to ABT. | when I was gonna go back to ABT. |
| 722 | 00:44:21,825 | 00:44:23,576 | They were really, like, nudging me, like, | They were really, like, nudging me, like, |
| 723 | 00:44:23,577 | 00:44:24,827 | "You need to come now," and I was like, | "You need to come now," and I was like, |
| 724 | 00:44:24,828 | 00:44:26,663 | "I'm not ready; I'm not ready." | "I'm not ready; I'm not ready." |
| 725 | 00:44:26,664 | 00:44:29,165 | Michele Wiles started BalletNext | Michele Wiles started BalletNext |
| 726 | 00:44:29,166 | 00:44:30,792 | with Charles Askegard, | with Charles Askegard, |
| 727 | 00:44:30,793 | 00:44:33,127 | was a principal dancer with American Ballet Theatre, | was a principal dancer with American Ballet Theatre, |
| 728 | 00:44:33,128 | 00:44:35,004 | and she was a good friend of mine. | and she was a good friend of mine. |
| 729 | 00:44:35,005 | 00:44:36,005 | And Michele said, | And Michele said, |
| 730 | 00:44:36,006 | 00:44:39,842 | "Why don't you do a performance with us first, | "Why don't you do a performance with us first, |
| 731 | 00:44:39,843 | 00:44:42,387 | and maybe you'll feel more comfortable and secure?" | and maybe you'll feel more comfortable and secure?" |
| 732 | 00:44:42,388 | 00:44:43,554 | And I was like, "Oh, my gosh. | And I was like, "Oh, my gosh. |
| 733 | 00:44:43,555 | 00:44:44,722 | I don't know." | I don't know." |
| 734 | 00:44:44,723 | 00:44:46,140 | She's like, "Why don't you do something | She's like, "Why don't you do something |
| 735 | 00:44:46,141 | 00:44:48,142 | "that's more simple, you know, doesn't take a lot, | "that's more simple, you know, doesn't take a lot, |
| 736 | 00:44:48,143 | 00:44:49,185 | there's no jumping," | there's no jumping," |
| 737 | 00:44:49,186 | 00:44:51,646 | and, "Why don't you do 'The Dying Swan'?" | and, "Why don't you do 'The Dying Swan'?" |
| 738 | 00:44:51,647 | 00:44:53,356 | And I was like, "That's brilliant, | And I was like, "That's brilliant, |
| 739 | 00:44:53,357 | 00:44:54,899 | but I'm terrified." | but I'm terrified." |
| 740 | 00:45:00,989 | 00:45:03,991 | [indistinct chatter] | [indistinct chatter] |
| 741 | 00:46:32,623 | 00:46:34,791 | - There's the superstar. - Are you done here? | - There's the superstar. - Are you done here? |
| 742 | 00:46:34,792 | 00:46:35,875 | - Merde, yes. - Okay. | - Merde, yes. - Okay. |
| 743 | 00:46:35,876 | 00:46:37,877 | - Have fun, okay? - Thank you. | - Have fun, okay? - Thank you. |
| 744 | 00:46:37,878 | 00:46:40,880 | [lively violin music] | [lively violin music] |
| 745 | 00:46:40,881 | 00:46:48,888 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 746 | 00:47:22,589 | 00:47:25,591 | [cheers and applause] | [cheers and applause] |
| 747 | 00:47:41,024 | 00:47:44,026 | [somber piano and violin music] | [somber piano and violin music] |
| 748 | 00:47:44,027 | 00:47:52,034 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 749 | 00:49:04,483 | 00:49:07,485 | [cheers and applause] | [cheers and applause] |
| 750 | 00:49:36,098 | 00:49:38,099 | Well, what did you think, Coach? | Well, what did you think, Coach? |
| 751 | 00:49:38,100 | 00:49:40,101 | It was okay. | It was okay. |
| 752 | 00:49:40,102 | 00:49:41,102 | Um... | Um... |
| 753 | 00:49:42,729 | 00:49:43,729 | I didn't fall. | I didn't fall. |
| 754 | 00:49:43,730 | 00:49:45,731 | [laughs] | [laughs] |
| 755 | 00:49:45,732 | 00:49:48,818 | It just wasn't, like, what I'm used to. | It just wasn't, like, what I'm used to. |
| 756 | 00:49:48,819 | 00:49:52,488 | I didn't use the space like I should have, | I didn't use the space like I should have, |
| 757 | 00:49:52,489 | 00:49:57,618 | but no stumbling, so it was okay. | but no stumbling, so it was okay. |
| 758 | 00:49:57,619 | 00:49:58,869 | - People liked it. - [laughs] | - People liked it. - [laughs] |
| 759 | 00:49:58,870 | 00:50:00,579 | - It was beautiful. - Thank you. | - It was beautiful. - Thank you. |
| 760 | 00:50:00,580 | 00:50:03,582 | Hopefully tomorrow I'll feel better. | Hopefully tomorrow I'll feel better. |
| 761 | 00:50:03,583 | 00:50:05,835 | That was rough. | That was rough. |
| 762 | 00:50:05,836 | 00:50:08,546 | First time... first time in the game in a while. | First time... first time in the game in a while. |
| 763 | 00:50:08,547 | 00:50:10,423 | First time in a year. | First time in a year. |
| 764 | 00:50:11,883 | 00:50:14,093 | [sighs] | [sighs] |
| 765 | 00:50:14,094 | 00:50:15,803 | I'm glad that's over. | I'm glad that's over. |
| 766 | 00:50:15,804 | 00:50:17,805 | - Well... - [laughs] | - Well... - [laughs] |
| 767 | 00:50:17,806 | 00:50:18,806 | I am. | I am. |
| 768 | 00:50:34,990 | 00:50:36,532 | - [gasps] - I know... | - [gasps] - I know... |
| 769 | 00:50:36,533 | 00:50:38,659 | - I know you! - Hey. | - I know you! - Hey. |
| 770 | 00:50:38,660 | 00:50:41,162 | - I've been listening. - You hot, beautiful girl. | - I've been listening. - You hot, beautiful girl. |
| 771 | 00:50:41,163 | 00:50:42,246 | Everyone gets confused | Everyone gets confused |
| 772 | 00:50:42,247 | 00:50:43,456 | and gets off on the second floor... | and gets off on the second floor... |
| 773 | 00:50:43,457 | 00:50:44,874 | - I did. - Because it's 29. | - I did. - Because it's 29. |
| 774 | 00:50:44,875 | 00:50:46,917 | I know; every single one of my girlfriends do. | I know; every single one of my girlfriends do. |
| 775 | 00:50:46,918 | 00:50:49,128 | Oh, I'm so glad I'm not the only dummy. | Oh, I'm so glad I'm not the only dummy. |
| 776 | 00:50:49,129 | 00:50:50,463 | No, it's not dumb at all. | No, it's not dumb at all. |
| 777 | 00:50:50,464 | 00:50:51,464 | I'm Nelson. | I'm Nelson. |
| 778 | 00:50:51,465 | 00:50:52,757 | - I met you at the... - Yeah, I know. | - I met you at the... - Yeah, I know. |
| 779 | 00:50:52,758 | 00:50:53,758 | - I remember. - Good to see you again. | - I remember. - Good to see you again. |
| 780 | 00:50:53,759 | 00:50:54,759 | Good to see you again. | Good to see you again. |
| 781 | 00:50:54,760 | 00:50:56,135 | We were tooling around on the stage... | We were tooling around on the stage... |
| 782 | 00:50:56,136 | 00:50:57,136 | - Absolutely, absolutely. - [laughs] | - Absolutely, absolutely. - [laughs] |
| 783 | 00:50:57,137 | 00:50:58,137 | It was beautiful. | It was beautiful. |
| 784 | 00:50:58,138 | 00:50:59,847 | Trying to find our way in and out. | Trying to find our way in and out. |
| 785 | 00:50:59,848 | 00:51:02,016 | - Good. - Bless her heart. | - Good. - Bless her heart. |
| 786 | 00:51:02,017 | 00:51:03,350 | I'm worried about her, you know. | I'm worried about her, you know. |
| 787 | 00:51:03,351 | 00:51:05,102 | She doesn't worry about anything. | She doesn't worry about anything. |
| 788 | 00:51:05,103 | 00:51:06,854 | How... you were gonna do everything today. | How... you were gonna do everything today. |
| 789 | 00:51:06,855 | 00:51:08,689 | Look at you, how beautiful you look. | Look at you, how beautiful you look. |
| 790 | 00:51:08,690 | 00:51:10,775 | I did the show last night, and then... | I did the show last night, and then... |
| 791 | 00:51:10,776 | 00:51:11,776 | - Oh, you did? - Yeah. | - Oh, you did? - Yeah. |
| 792 | 00:51:11,777 | 00:51:13,360 | 'Cause I didn't know whether it was tonight. | 'Cause I didn't know whether it was tonight. |
| 793 | 00:51:13,361 | 00:51:14,361 | It's tonight as well. | It's tonight as well. |
| 794 | 00:51:14,362 | 00:51:15,488 | - Oh! - Yeah. | - Oh! - Yeah. |
| 795 | 00:51:15,489 | 00:51:17,698 | And I thought to myself, "How's she doing?" | And I thought to myself, "How's she doing?" |
| 796 | 00:51:17,699 | 00:51:18,699 | Did you take class? | Did you take class? |
| 797 | 00:51:18,700 | 00:51:19,784 | Yeah, I already took class this morning. | Yeah, I already took class this morning. |
| 798 | 00:51:19,785 | 00:51:21,577 | I knew that would be. | I knew that would be. |
| 799 | 00:51:21,578 | 00:51:22,703 | I don't know how she does it. | I don't know how she does it. |
| 800 | 00:51:22,704 | 00:51:23,704 | [laughs] | [laughs] |
| 801 | 00:51:23,705 | 00:51:25,581 | You know, in my... in my youth youth, | You know, in my... in my youth youth, |
| 802 | 00:51:25,582 | 00:51:27,583 | I didn't have the energy she has. | I didn't have the energy she has. |
| 803 | 00:51:27,584 | 00:51:29,418 | You're so sweet. | You're so sweet. |
| 804 | 00:51:29,419 | 00:51:31,045 | Isn't this nice? Hello, ladies! | Isn't this nice? Hello, ladies! |
| 805 | 00:51:31,046 | 00:51:33,422 | This is Raven, everyone. | This is Raven, everyone. |
| 806 | 00:51:33,423 | 00:51:35,257 | - I'm Raven. - [laughs] | - I'm Raven. - [laughs] |
| 807 | 00:51:35,258 | 00:51:37,134 | - How is everything? - I'll take your umbrella. | - How is everything? - I'll take your umbrella. |
| 808 | 00:51:37,135 | 00:51:38,969 | Look at how... how was class? | Look at how... how was class? |
| 809 | 00:51:38,970 | 00:51:39,970 | It was fine. | It was fine. |
| 810 | 00:51:39,971 | 00:51:41,931 | - I took Dameon Howard. - Oh, you did? | - I took Dameon Howard. - Oh, you did? |
| 811 | 00:51:41,932 | 00:51:44,016 | - Yeah, he's doing well. - But I mean, the other day. | - Yeah, he's doing well. - But I mean, the other day. |
| 812 | 00:51:44,017 | 00:51:45,726 | - Um... oh, with the company? - Yeah. | - Um... oh, with the company? - Yeah. |
| 813 | 00:51:45,727 | 00:51:47,353 | It was fine. | It was fine. |
| 814 | 00:51:47,354 | 00:51:49,063 | I'm gonna take company class again Saturday... | I'm gonna take company class again Saturday... |
| 815 | 00:51:49,064 | 00:51:50,231 | - Yeah. - So we'll see. | - Yeah. - So we'll see. |
| 816 | 00:51:50,232 | 00:51:52,399 | How... did you... could you get through it all, | How... did you... could you get through it all, |
| 817 | 00:51:52,400 | 00:51:53,400 | or you stopped a little? | or you stopped a little? |
| 818 | 00:51:53,401 | 00:51:55,528 | - Well, I'm not jumping. - Yeah. | - Well, I'm not jumping. - Yeah. |
| 819 | 00:51:55,529 | 00:51:57,780 | I'm not doing grand allegro, so I did part of it, | I'm not doing grand allegro, so I did part of it, |
| 820 | 00:51:57,781 | 00:51:59,907 | but my meeting was, like, halfway through, | but my meeting was, like, halfway through, |
| 821 | 00:51:59,908 | 00:52:00,950 | so I had to leave early. | so I had to leave early. |
| 822 | 00:52:00,951 | 00:52:03,577 | Yeah, and how... oh, good, you had a good excuse. | Yeah, and how... oh, good, you had a good excuse. |
| 823 | 00:52:03,578 | 00:52:05,287 | - I had a good excuse to be... - How was that? | - I had a good excuse to be... - How was that? |
| 824 | 00:52:05,288 | 00:52:08,249 | - It was fine. - I'll just put this here. | - It was fine. - I'll just put this here. |
| 825 | 00:52:08,250 | 00:52:09,875 | It was kind of pointless to meet with them | It was kind of pointless to meet with them |
| 826 | 00:52:09,876 | 00:52:12,044 | because I'll have more information | because I'll have more information |
| 827 | 00:52:12,045 | 00:52:14,672 | after my doctor's appointment today. | after my doctor's appointment today. |
| 828 | 00:52:14,673 | 00:52:16,841 | - That is so beautiful. - It's pretty swollen. | - That is so beautiful. - It's pretty swollen. |
| 829 | 00:52:16,842 | 00:52:19,802 | I bumped into my bed, and mine looks worse than that. | I bumped into my bed, and mine looks worse than that. |
| 830 | 00:52:19,803 | 00:52:21,011 | [laughs] | [laughs] |
| 831 | 00:52:21,012 | 00:52:22,471 | No, that's gorgeous. | No, that's gorgeous. |
| 832 | 00:52:22,472 | 00:52:24,140 | - But yeah, I mean... - What work did he do? | - But yeah, I mean... - What work did he do? |
| 833 | 00:52:24,141 | 00:52:26,976 | 'Cause you haven't seen me since the surgery, right? | 'Cause you haven't seen me since the surgery, right? |
| 834 | 00:52:26,977 | 00:52:29,228 | - No, no. - Yeah, so that... | - No, no. - Yeah, so that... |
| 835 | 00:52:29,229 | 00:52:32,690 | And I never saw anything before. | And I never saw anything before. |
| 836 | 00:52:32,691 | 00:52:34,859 | I had no idea you had this problem. | I had no idea you had this problem. |
| 837 | 00:52:34,860 | 00:52:36,152 | Well, you... you couldn't tell. | Well, you... you couldn't tell. |
| 838 | 00:52:36,153 | 00:52:39,572 | No, she dances so beautifully. | No, she dances so beautifully. |
| 839 | 00:52:39,573 | 00:52:40,906 | - It's doing very well. - Yeah. | - It's doing very well. - Yeah. |
| 840 | 00:52:40,907 | 00:52:42,283 | - The scar looks straight. - Lookit, she's so strong. | - The scar looks straight. - Lookit, she's so strong. |
| 841 | 00:52:42,284 | 00:52:43,909 | Look at the ankles and the feet. | Look at the ankles and the feet. |
| 842 | 00:52:43,910 | 00:52:44,910 | [laughs] | [laughs] |
| 843 | 00:52:44,911 | 00:52:46,162 | I'm getting there. | I'm getting there. |
| 844 | 00:52:46,163 | 00:52:47,997 | - Well, he did a marvelous job. - He really did. | - Well, he did a marvelous job. - He really did. |
| 845 | 00:52:47,998 | 00:52:52,001 | You know, medicine and a good doctor is an artist. | You know, medicine and a good doctor is an artist. |
| 846 | 00:52:52,002 | 00:52:54,420 | Yeah, that's true. | Yeah, that's true. |
| 847 | 00:52:54,421 | 00:52:56,338 | He was most concerned with the scar | He was most concerned with the scar |
| 848 | 00:52:56,339 | 00:52:57,798 | more than anything else. | more than anything else. |
| 849 | 00:52:57,799 | 00:52:59,341 | I was concerned 'cause you can wear... | I was concerned 'cause you can wear... |
| 850 | 00:52:59,342 | 00:53:00,426 | - My high heels? - No one wants her... | - My high heels? - No one wants her... |
| 851 | 00:53:00,427 | 00:53:01,886 | Oh, what were you gonna say? [laughs] | Oh, what were you gonna say? [laughs] |
| 852 | 00:53:01,887 | 00:53:02,887 | - No. - Oh, tights? | - No. - Oh, tights? |
| 853 | 00:53:02,888 | 00:53:04,388 | - No, you can cover up. - Right. | - No, you can cover up. - Right. |
| 854 | 00:53:04,389 | 00:53:06,140 | You know, I know you don't really want to, | You know, I know you don't really want to, |
| 855 | 00:53:06,141 | 00:53:09,476 | but I was much more concerned about what was going on inside. | but I was much more concerned about what was going on inside. |
| 856 | 00:53:09,477 | 00:53:11,729 | - So am I. - Yeah, but it's... | - So am I. - Yeah, but it's... |
| 857 | 00:53:11,730 | 00:53:13,689 | - So we'll see. - Yeah, look at you, though. | - So we'll see. - Yeah, look at you, though. |
| 858 | 00:53:13,690 | 00:53:16,108 | - Still a bit sensitive, though. - You're flexing here. | - Still a bit sensitive, though. - You're flexing here. |
| 859 | 00:53:16,109 | 00:53:18,694 | I've been thinking about | I've been thinking about |
| 860 | 00:53:18,695 | 00:53:22,323 | the very first time that I found out who you were, | the very first time that I found out who you were, |
| 861 | 00:53:22,324 | 00:53:26,285 | which to me is really crazy that it was | which to me is really crazy that it was |
| 862 | 00:53:26,286 | 00:53:30,915 | far into my career as a professional already, | far into my career as a professional already, |
| 863 | 00:53:30,916 | 00:53:32,875 | and I saw the film "The Ballet Russe." | and I saw the film "The Ballet Russe." |
| 864 | 00:53:32,876 | 00:53:34,501 | - A lot of books... - There wasn't that much said... | - A lot of books... - There wasn't that much said... |
| 865 | 00:53:34,502 | 00:53:35,502 | Right. | Right. |
| 866 | 00:53:35,503 | 00:53:37,630 | Because when I came along, | Because when I came along, |
| 867 | 00:53:37,631 | 00:53:39,798 | the less said was the better, you know? | the less said was the better, you know? |
| 868 | 00:53:39,799 | 00:53:40,799 | Yeah, yeah. | Yeah, yeah. |
| 869 | 00:53:40,800 | 00:53:44,470 | I mean, I just went as I was and who I was, | I mean, I just went as I was and who I was, |
| 870 | 00:53:44,471 | 00:53:47,806 | but people, they thought it wasn't nice | but people, they thought it wasn't nice |
| 871 | 00:53:47,807 | 00:53:50,559 | to talk about race or I might be insulted. | to talk about race or I might be insulted. |
| 872 | 00:53:50,560 | 00:53:52,394 | I mean, I... yeah, I think... | I mean, I... yeah, I think... |
| 873 | 00:53:52,395 | 00:53:56,649 | So a lot of it wasn't like... now we have this time span, | So a lot of it wasn't like... now we have this time span, |
| 874 | 00:53:56,650 | 00:53:58,067 | and now people are very interested, | and now people are very interested, |
| 875 | 00:53:58,068 | 00:53:59,818 | and people don't talk about it | and people don't talk about it |
| 876 | 00:53:59,819 | 00:54:01,695 | and especially younger people, you know. | and especially younger people, you know. |
| 877 | 00:54:01,696 | 00:54:03,364 | I mean, I think it's important | I mean, I think it's important |
| 878 | 00:54:03,365 | 00:54:07,326 | to be able to discuss it, because then it forces people | to be able to discuss it, because then it forces people |
| 879 | 00:54:07,327 | 00:54:11,538 | to kind of confront the issues. | to kind of confront the issues. |
| 880 | 00:54:11,539 | 00:54:13,207 | But yes, the first time I saw you | But yes, the first time I saw you |
| 881 | 00:54:13,208 | 00:54:17,086 | was in "The Ballet Russe" film, and I cried my eyes out | was in "The Ballet Russe" film, and I cried my eyes out |
| 882 | 00:54:17,087 | 00:54:18,462 | because I didn't even know | because I didn't even know |
| 883 | 00:54:18,463 | 00:54:22,132 | that a black ballerina of your level existed, | that a black ballerina of your level existed, |
| 884 | 00:54:22,133 | 00:54:23,759 | and so that was kind of the start | and so that was kind of the start |
| 885 | 00:54:23,760 | 00:54:26,011 | of this mission I had, you know, | of this mission I had, you know, |
| 886 | 00:54:26,012 | 00:54:28,847 | to learn more about black ballerinas, | to learn more about black ballerinas, |
| 887 | 00:54:28,848 | 00:54:33,143 | to try and educate other people about who you are, | to try and educate other people about who you are, |
| 888 | 00:54:33,144 | 00:54:37,606 | who Janet Collins is, and so that's kind of | who Janet Collins is, and so that's kind of |
| 889 | 00:54:37,607 | 00:54:39,942 | how this all got started. | how this all got started. |
| 890 | 00:54:39,943 | 00:54:41,568 | [laughter] | [laughter] |
| 891 | 00:54:41,569 | 00:54:43,279 | You know... [speaks indistinctly] | You know... [speaks indistinctly] |
| 892 | 00:54:43,280 | 00:54:45,281 | You know, when you start out looking. | You know, when you start out looking. |
| 893 | 00:54:45,282 | 00:54:48,200 | Yes, in the pose. [laughs] | Yes, in the pose. [laughs] |
| 894 | 00:54:48,201 | 00:54:49,201 | Yeah. | Yeah. |
| 895 | 00:54:49,202 | 00:54:50,202 | And that's your pose, | And that's your pose, |
| 896 | 00:54:50,203 | 00:54:53,289 | and then we were doing the cygnets. | and then we were doing the cygnets. |
| 897 | 00:54:53,290 | 00:54:54,748 | - Oh, right. - Yes. | - Oh, right. - Yes. |
| 898 | 00:54:54,749 | 00:54:58,085 | We did the same... we did the same part, | We did the same... we did the same part, |
| 899 | 00:54:58,086 | 00:55:00,379 | so it's hard for us to both... | so it's hard for us to both... |
| 900 | 00:55:00,380 | 00:55:02,339 | Well, I think I've done it in other positions. | Well, I think I've done it in other positions. |
| 901 | 00:55:02,340 | 00:55:04,091 | Yeah, you kind of... you just... | Yeah, you kind of... you just... |
| 902 | 00:55:04,092 | 00:55:07,094 | [laughter] | [laughter] |
| 903 | 00:55:08,763 | 00:55:13,225 | You kind of have to be ready to jump into any of the slots. | You kind of have to be ready to jump into any of the slots. |
| 904 | 00:55:13,226 | 00:55:14,560 | You... I had to go into it... | You... I had to go into it... |
| 905 | 00:55:14,561 | 00:55:16,395 | But we both... and you're used to doing | But we both... and you're used to doing |
| 906 | 00:55:16,396 | 00:55:17,938 | the quick... the quick head switching. | the quick... the quick head switching. |
| 907 | 00:55:17,939 | 00:55:20,941 | [humming] | [humming] |
| 908 | 00:55:22,736 | 00:55:25,738 | [laughing] | [laughing] |
| 909 | 00:55:28,408 | 00:55:30,034 | Oh, yes, did you do that? | Oh, yes, did you do that? |
| 910 | 00:55:30,035 | 00:55:32,870 | [humming] | [humming] |
| 911 | 00:55:32,871 | 00:55:34,246 | And there's different versions. | And there's different versions. |
| 912 | 00:55:34,247 | 00:55:35,539 | - Yeah. - And... | - Yeah. - And... |
| 913 | 00:55:35,540 | 00:55:37,124 | - Oh, my goodness. - [laughs] | - Oh, my goodness. - [laughs] |
| 914 | 00:55:37,125 | 00:55:38,709 | And then go. Then you take off like... | And then go. Then you take off like... |
| 915 | 00:55:38,710 | 00:55:39,918 | Oh, wow. | Oh, wow. |
| 916 | 00:55:39,919 | 00:55:43,380 | Yeah, and then the emboȊtés. | Yeah, and then the emboȊtés. |
| 917 | 00:55:43,381 | 00:55:44,840 | - Going back to the corner. - Yeah. | - Going back to the corner. - Yeah. |
| 918 | 00:55:44,841 | 00:55:46,925 | - Did you do the emboȊtés? - Oh, right! | - Did you do the emboȊtés? - Oh, right! |
| 919 | 00:55:46,926 | 00:55:47,926 | That's it. | That's it. |
| 920 | 00:55:47,927 | 00:55:51,430 | [humming] | [humming] |
| 921 | 00:55:51,431 | 00:55:53,849 | And then the pas de chats, and you just... | And then the pas de chats, and you just... |
| 922 | 00:55:53,850 | 00:55:54,850 | Right, and that... | Right, and that... |
| 923 | 00:55:54,851 | 00:55:56,310 | Did you look forward, or did you look over | Did you look forward, or did you look over |
| 924 | 00:55:56,311 | 00:55:57,770 | when you did the pas de chats? | when you did the pas de chats? |
| 925 | 00:55:57,771 | 00:55:59,605 | - No, I think we looked left. - Yes, over. | - No, I think we looked left. - Yes, over. |
| 926 | 00:55:59,606 | 00:56:00,606 | - Yeah. - I mean your right. | - Yeah. - I mean your right. |
| 927 | 00:56:00,607 | 00:56:01,732 | - Right. - When you're going right. | - Right. - When you're going right. |
| 928 | 00:56:01,733 | 00:56:02,816 | Over the direction you're going. | Over the direction you're going. |
| 929 | 00:56:02,817 | 00:56:05,944 | And then comes the pause and then a fouetté. | And then comes the pause and then a fouetté. |
| 930 | 00:56:05,945 | 00:56:08,572 | [both humming] | [both humming] |
| 931 | 00:56:08,573 | 00:56:11,283 | - Back. - [laughs] | - Back. - [laughs] |
| 932 | 00:56:11,284 | 00:56:12,910 | And then the passés at the end. | And then the passés at the end. |
| 933 | 00:56:12,911 | 00:56:13,911 | Passé, passé, passé. | Passé, passé, passé. |
| 934 | 00:56:13,912 | 00:56:14,912 | Oh, God, yes. | Oh, God, yes. |
| 935 | 00:56:14,913 | 00:56:16,955 | - Did you do the heads that way? - Yes, yup. | - Did you do the heads that way? - Yes, yup. |
| 936 | 00:56:16,956 | 00:56:19,958 | [humming] - [laughs] | [humming] - [laughs] |
| 937 | 00:56:19,959 | 00:56:21,502 | - And then all of a sudden... - And then you let go. | - And then all of a sudden... - And then you let go. |
| 938 | 00:56:21,503 | 00:56:24,963 | Barump, barump on the knee. | Barump, barump on the knee. |
| 939 | 00:56:24,964 | 00:56:26,757 | Let's see, and how did the hands go? | Let's see, and how did the hands go? |
| 940 | 00:56:26,758 | 00:56:29,426 | We went... we went this way and then this way to finish. | We went... we went this way and then this way to finish. |
| 941 | 00:56:29,427 | 00:56:31,053 | - That's it, yeah. - Is that how you did it? | - That's it, yeah. - Is that how you did it? |
| 942 | 00:56:31,054 | 00:56:33,055 | - Yup. - [laughs] | - Yup. - [laughs] |
| 943 | 00:56:33,056 | 00:56:36,475 | - Same old, same old. - Never changes. | - Same old, same old. - Never changes. |
| 944 | 00:56:36,476 | 00:56:38,477 | - No. - [laughs] | - No. - [laughs] |
| 945 | 00:56:38,478 | 00:56:39,561 | Well, little things here and there. | Well, little things here and there. |
| 946 | 00:56:39,562 | 00:56:40,562 | Those little swans, | Those little swans, |
| 947 | 00:56:40,563 | 00:56:42,481 | we don't want to lose them in the lake, so... | we don't want to lose them in the lake, so... |
| 948 | 00:56:42,482 | 00:56:44,483 | [laughs] | [laughs] |
| 949 | 00:56:44,484 | 00:56:46,193 | But, oh, just... | But, oh, just... |
| 950 | 00:56:46,194 | 00:56:47,236 | It's incredible that you still | It's incredible that you still |
| 951 | 00:56:47,237 | 00:56:48,695 | remember all those little details. | remember all those little details. |
| 952 | 00:56:48,696 | 00:56:49,822 | Yeah, isn't it? | Yeah, isn't it? |
| 953 | 00:56:49,823 | 00:56:52,533 | And I mean, when you hear the music... | And I mean, when you hear the music... |
| 954 | 00:56:52,534 | 00:56:53,951 | It just comes back. | It just comes back. |
| 955 | 00:56:53,952 | 00:56:55,953 | - It's in your body. - Yeah. | - It's in your body. - Yeah. |
| 956 | 00:57:01,584 | 00:57:03,001 | Do you have a needle? | Do you have a needle? |
| 957 | 00:57:03,002 | 00:57:04,670 | Oh, no, I got it. | Oh, no, I got it. |
| 958 | 00:57:04,671 | 00:57:05,671 | It was hiding. | It was hiding. |
| 959 | 00:57:05,672 | 00:57:06,672 | I got it. | I got it. |
| 960 | 00:57:13,179 | 00:57:15,180 | [laughs] Thank you. | [laughs] Thank you. |
| 961 | 00:57:49,132 | 00:57:51,467 | 90 degrees, fifth. | 90 degrees, fifth. |
| 962 | 00:57:51,468 | 00:57:54,219 | [speaking indistinctly] | [speaking indistinctly] |
| 963 | 00:57:54,220 | 00:57:55,804 | Fifth. | Fifth. |
| 964 | 00:57:55,805 | 00:57:59,933 | Ronde de jambe. | Ronde de jambe. |
| 965 | 00:57:59,934 | 00:58:04,146 | And one, two, three. | And one, two, three. |
| 966 | 00:58:04,147 | 00:58:05,397 | Okay. | Okay. |
| 967 | 00:58:05,398 | 00:58:08,400 | [somber piano music] | [somber piano music] |
| 968 | 00:58:08,401 | 00:58:16,408 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 969 | 00:58:52,028 | 00:58:55,030 | - How are you? - Just fine, and you? | - How are you? - Just fine, and you? |
| 970 | 00:58:55,031 | 00:58:57,449 | Eh. [laughs] | Eh. [laughs] |
| 971 | 00:58:57,450 | 00:59:00,661 | I think I... I could have pulled something, | I think I... I could have pulled something, |
| 972 | 00:59:00,662 | 00:59:03,288 | but I had a back spasm. | but I had a back spasm. |
| 973 | 00:59:03,289 | 00:59:05,415 | - When, yesterday? - The first day in Rome. | - When, yesterday? - The first day in Rome. |
| 974 | 00:59:05,416 | 00:59:06,750 | - First day in Rome. - First day? | - First day in Rome. - First day? |
| 975 | 00:59:06,751 | 00:59:09,211 | It started, yeah. I just... | It started, yeah. I just... |
| 976 | 00:59:09,212 | 00:59:10,504 | During the performance or the rehearsal? | During the performance or the rehearsal? |
| 977 | 00:59:10,505 | 00:59:12,548 | No, getting into the van. [laughs] | No, getting into the van. [laughs] |
| 978 | 00:59:12,549 | 00:59:14,341 | - Getting into the van? - Yeah. | - Getting into the van? - Yeah. |
| 979 | 00:59:14,342 | 00:59:15,551 | Oh, come on. | Oh, come on. |
| 980 | 00:59:15,552 | 00:59:17,344 | That's when they happen. | That's when they happen. |
| 981 | 00:59:17,345 | 00:59:20,347 | [men speaking Italian] | [men speaking Italian] |
| 982 | 00:59:34,904 | 00:59:36,530 | When did it happen? | When did it happen? |
| 983 | 00:59:36,531 | 00:59:37,531 | Two days ago. | Two days ago. |
| 984 | 00:59:37,532 | 00:59:40,284 | So last night was the worst. | So last night was the worst. |
| 985 | 00:59:40,285 | 00:59:42,035 | I couldn't breathe. | I couldn't breathe. |
| 986 | 00:59:42,036 | 00:59:43,870 | [speaking Italian] | [speaking Italian] |
| 987 | 00:59:43,871 | 00:59:46,665 | It feels, also, like my sacrum or something is stuck. | It feels, also, like my sacrum or something is stuck. |
| 988 | 00:59:46,666 | 00:59:49,668 | [speaking Italian] | [speaking Italian] |
| 989 | 00:59:54,007 | 00:59:56,425 | [groans] | [groans] |
| 990 | 00:59:56,426 | 00:59:58,635 | No, no. | No, no. |
| 991 | 00:59:58,636 | 01:00:00,262 | Yeah. | Yeah. |
| 992 | 01:00:00,263 | 01:00:02,472 | Yes. | Yes. |
| 993 | 01:00:02,473 | 01:00:04,099 | [speaking Italian] | [speaking Italian] |
| 994 | 01:00:06,936 | 01:00:07,936 | No. | No. |
| 995 | 01:00:12,358 | 01:00:13,358 | Relax. | Relax. |
| 996 | 01:00:19,490 | 01:00:22,492 | [groaning] | [groaning] |
| 997 | 01:00:35,715 | 01:00:37,341 | Okay. | Okay. |
| 998 | 01:00:37,342 | 01:00:38,759 | [speaking Italian] | [speaking Italian] |
| 999 | 01:00:38,760 | 01:00:41,261 | Okay, now on your side and face the wall. | Okay, now on your side and face the wall. |
| 1000 | 01:00:41,262 | 01:00:42,471 | [speaking Italian] | [speaking Italian] |
| 1001 | 01:00:42,472 | 01:00:45,474 | Yeah, towards him on your right side. | Yeah, towards him on your right side. |
| 1002 | 01:00:58,196 | 01:00:59,696 | [speaking Italian] | [speaking Italian] |
| 1003 | 01:00:59,697 | 01:01:01,698 | Do you have pain? | Do you have pain? |
| 1004 | 01:01:01,699 | 01:01:03,325 | - Yes. - Sì. | - Yes. - Sì. |
| 1005 | 01:01:04,952 | 01:01:06,578 | [exhales sharply] | [exhales sharply] |
| 1006 | 01:01:06,579 | 01:01:08,497 | Okay. | Okay. |
| 1007 | 01:01:08,498 | 01:01:09,623 | [speaking Italian] | [speaking Italian] |
| 1008 | 01:01:09,624 | 01:01:10,624 | It cracked. | It cracked. |
| 1009 | 01:01:15,505 | 01:01:16,505 | [speaking Italian] | [speaking Italian] |
| 1010 | 01:01:16,506 | 01:01:17,714 | - Pain? - Yes. | - Pain? - Yes. |
| 1011 | 01:01:17,715 | 01:01:18,715 | Sì. | Sì. |
| 1012 | 01:01:24,138 | 01:01:25,514 | - Pain? - Yes, same place. | - Pain? - Yes, same place. |
| 1013 | 01:01:25,515 | 01:01:28,141 | [speaking Italian] | [speaking Italian] |
| 1014 | 01:01:51,708 | 01:01:53,291 | Okay. | Okay. |
| 1015 | 01:01:55,586 | 01:01:57,421 | Okay. | Okay. |
| 1016 | 01:01:57,422 | 01:01:59,047 | [speaking Italian] | [speaking Italian] |
| 1017 | 01:01:59,048 | 01:02:00,048 | Grazie. | Grazie. |
| 1018 | 01:02:00,049 | 01:02:03,051 | [speaking Italian] | [speaking Italian] |
| 1019 | 01:02:03,052 | 01:02:04,261 | Uh... [laughs] | Uh... [laughs] |
| 1020 | 01:02:04,262 | 01:02:05,470 | Tomorrow. | Tomorrow. |
| 1021 | 01:02:09,183 | 01:02:12,185 | [speaking Italian] | [speaking Italian] |
| 1022 | 01:02:24,157 | 01:02:27,159 | [somber piano music] | [somber piano music] |
| 1023 | 01:02:27,160 | 01:02:35,167 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 1024 | 01:03:44,445 | 01:03:45,487 | [woman speaking Italian] | [woman speaking Italian] |
| 1025 | 01:03:45,488 | 01:03:46,822 | Yes, yes. | Yes, yes. |
| 1026 | 01:03:46,823 | 01:03:47,823 | I think. | I think. |
| 1027 | 01:03:47,824 | 01:03:48,824 | [laughs] | [laughs] |
| 1028 | 01:03:50,701 | 01:03:52,911 | [woman speaking Italian] | [woman speaking Italian] |
| 1029 | 01:03:57,416 | 01:03:59,042 | So tightest. | So tightest. |
| 1030 | 01:04:01,838 | 01:04:03,046 | Tight. | Tight. |
| 1031 | 01:05:08,446 | 01:05:11,448 | [lively orchestral music] | [lively orchestral music] |
| 1032 | 01:05:11,449 | 01:05:19,456 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 1033 | 01:05:27,924 | 01:05:30,926 | [cheers and applause] | [cheers and applause] |
| 1034 | 01:05:36,724 | 01:05:44,731 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 1035 | 01:05:53,366 | 01:05:56,368 | [cheers and applause] | [cheers and applause] |
| 1036 | 01:05:58,996 | 01:06:01,998 | [energetic music] | [energetic music] |
| 1037 | 01:06:01,999 | 01:06:10,006 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 1038 | 01:06:16,430 | 01:06:19,432 | [cheers and applause] | [cheers and applause] |
| 1039 | 01:07:11,861 | 01:07:13,486 | Except for these two ladies right here. | Except for these two ladies right here. |
| 1040 | 01:07:13,487 | 01:07:14,738 | [laughter] | [laughter] |
| 1041 | 01:07:14,739 | 01:07:16,740 | - Thank you. - I know that's what he meant. | - Thank you. - I know that's what he meant. |
| 1042 | 01:07:16,741 | 01:07:18,241 | Well, no, if she's with you, that's fine. | Well, no, if she's with you, that's fine. |
| 1043 | 01:07:18,242 | 01:07:19,284 | I'm not worried about that. | I'm not worried about that. |
| 1044 | 01:07:19,285 | 01:07:22,287 | [indistinct chatter] | [indistinct chatter] |
| 1045 | 01:07:24,248 | 01:07:25,915 | Oh, that was your daughter? No, you can stay here, then. | Oh, that was your daughter? No, you can stay here, then. |
| 1046 | 01:07:25,916 | 01:07:26,916 | I'm sorry. | I'm sorry. |
| 1047 | 01:07:26,917 | 01:07:28,084 | I didn't know that was your daughter. | I didn't know that was your daughter. |
| 1048 | 01:07:28,085 | 01:07:29,085 | - Are they with you? - Yeah. | - Are they with you? - Yeah. |
| 1049 | 01:07:29,086 | 01:07:30,545 | Okay, no, if they're with you, that's fine. | Okay, no, if they're with you, that's fine. |
| 1050 | 01:07:30,546 | 01:07:32,714 | I didn't know it was your daughter. | I didn't know it was your daughter. |
| 1051 | 01:07:32,715 | 01:07:35,717 | [crowd cheering] | [crowd cheering] |
| 1052 | 01:07:37,428 | 01:07:38,720 | Misty, Misty, do me a favor. | Misty, Misty, do me a favor. |
| 1053 | 01:07:38,721 | 01:07:40,930 | I'm gonna have them just move back. | I'm gonna have them just move back. |
| 1054 | 01:07:40,931 | 01:07:41,931 | Just move back. | Just move back. |
| 1055 | 01:07:41,932 | 01:07:43,058 | Just move back a little bit. | Just move back a little bit. |
| 1056 | 01:07:43,059 | 01:07:44,100 | Thank you. | Thank you. |
| 1057 | 01:07:44,101 | 01:07:46,144 | - Hello. - Hi. | - Hello. - Hi. |
| 1058 | 01:07:46,145 | 01:07:48,730 | - Brilliant performance. - Thank you. | - Brilliant performance. - Thank you. |
| 1059 | 01:07:50,983 | 01:07:51,983 | Thank you very much. | Thank you very much. |
| 1060 | 01:07:51,984 | 01:07:53,359 | This is for my daughter, Allison. | This is for my daughter, Allison. |
| 1061 | 01:07:53,360 | 01:07:55,862 | She took a picture with you when she was four. | She took a picture with you when she was four. |
| 1062 | 01:07:55,863 | 01:07:58,073 | - Oh, my God. - And that's on the other side. | - Oh, my God. - And that's on the other side. |
| 1063 | 01:07:58,074 | 01:08:00,075 | I have to see this. | I have to see this. |
| 1064 | 01:08:00,076 | 01:08:02,869 | - That's you and her. - Oh, my God! | - That's you and her. - Oh, my God! |
| 1065 | 01:08:02,870 | 01:08:04,454 | 14 years ago, | 14 years ago, |
| 1066 | 01:08:04,455 | 01:08:05,872 | and she's always wanted to meet you, | and she's always wanted to meet you, |
| 1067 | 01:08:05,873 | 01:08:06,956 | and here she is right here. | and here she is right here. |
| 1068 | 01:08:06,957 | 01:08:09,042 | Oh, my God. | Oh, my God. |
| 1069 | 01:08:09,043 | 01:08:10,043 | How old am I? | How old am I? |
| 1070 | 01:08:10,044 | 01:08:11,336 | Can take a pic... | Can take a pic... |
| 1071 | 01:08:11,337 | 01:08:14,339 | I think you're 12, 14. | I think you're 12, 14. |
| 1072 | 01:08:14,340 | 01:08:17,342 | [indistinct chatter] | [indistinct chatter] |
| 1073 | 01:08:23,849 | 01:08:27,811 | I remember telling her not too long ago, | I remember telling her not too long ago, |
| 1074 | 01:08:27,812 | 01:08:29,354 | with everything that's happening... | with everything that's happening... |
| 1075 | 01:08:29,355 | 01:08:31,523 | the book deals, the Under Armour endorsement, | the book deals, the Under Armour endorsement, |
| 1076 | 01:08:31,524 | 01:08:34,234 | you know, the Coach deal, | you know, the Coach deal, |
| 1077 | 01:08:34,235 | 01:08:35,735 | just everything that's going on, | just everything that's going on, |
| 1078 | 01:08:35,736 | 01:08:39,739 | the Diet Dr Pepper, the speaking engagements... | the Diet Dr Pepper, the speaking engagements... |
| 1079 | 01:08:39,740 | 01:08:42,700 | you know, "I... I understand | you know, "I... I understand |
| 1080 | 01:08:42,701 | 01:08:46,663 | "that principal is what you're aiming for, | "that principal is what you're aiming for, |
| 1081 | 01:08:46,664 | 01:08:48,998 | "but what I think you've built... | "but what I think you've built... |
| 1082 | 01:08:48,999 | 01:08:50,917 | "what I think we've built... | "what I think we've built... |
| 1083 | 01:08:50,918 | 01:08:52,127 | "is so much bigger than that, | "is so much bigger than that, |
| 1084 | 01:08:52,128 | 01:08:55,797 | "that, you know, what we have is not something | "that, you know, what we have is not something |
| 1085 | 01:08:55,798 | 01:08:59,551 | "that ABT or anyone else can take away from you. | "that ABT or anyone else can take away from you. |
| 1086 | 01:08:59,552 | 01:09:02,053 | "And whereas before, you felt very alone, | "And whereas before, you felt very alone, |
| 1087 | 01:09:02,054 | 01:09:03,179 | "you've got the world on your side, | "you've got the world on your side, |
| 1088 | 01:09:03,180 | 01:09:04,681 | "so for all intents and purposes, | "so for all intents and purposes, |
| 1089 | 01:09:04,682 | 01:09:05,807 | "you've won. | "you've won. |
| 1090 | 01:09:05,808 | 01:09:07,475 | You've won, whether you become"... | You've won, whether you become"... |
| 1091 | 01:09:07,476 | 01:09:10,937 | because in people's minds, she is a principal. | because in people's minds, she is a principal. |
| 1092 | 01:09:10,938 | 01:09:12,438 | She is the star. | She is the star. |
| 1093 | 01:09:12,439 | 01:09:13,898 | I cannot tell you | I cannot tell you |
| 1094 | 01:09:13,899 | 01:09:17,735 | how many black men I know who... | how many black men I know who... |
| 1095 | 01:09:17,736 | 01:09:20,738 | I think they'd rather go to Iraq, | I think they'd rather go to Iraq, |
| 1096 | 01:09:20,739 | 01:09:23,658 | have a relationship conversation, | have a relationship conversation, |
| 1097 | 01:09:23,659 | 01:09:26,828 | or have root canal than go see a ballet. | or have root canal than go see a ballet. |
| 1098 | 01:09:26,829 | 01:09:29,247 | But suddenly, they saw an interview with Misty, | But suddenly, they saw an interview with Misty, |
| 1099 | 01:09:29,248 | 01:09:30,957 | and they're like, "You know, aren't you | and they're like, "You know, aren't you |
| 1100 | 01:09:30,958 | 01:09:32,167 | "involved with ABT? | "involved with ABT? |
| 1101 | 01:09:32,168 | 01:09:33,793 | Can I come see a performance?" | Can I come see a performance?" |
| 1102 | 01:09:33,794 | 01:09:35,879 | They're following her career. | They're following her career. |
| 1103 | 01:09:35,880 | 01:09:38,882 | They email me things about her. | They email me things about her. |
| 1104 | 01:09:38,883 | 01:09:40,925 | That's sort of the hormonal contingent. | That's sort of the hormonal contingent. |
| 1105 | 01:09:40,926 | 01:09:43,303 | When she gets people in the theater, | When she gets people in the theater, |
| 1106 | 01:09:43,304 | 01:09:45,054 | people are actually moved by the art form | people are actually moved by the art form |
| 1107 | 01:09:45,055 | 01:09:47,849 | and realize this isn't a bunch of boring people in tutus. | and realize this isn't a bunch of boring people in tutus. |
| 1108 | 01:09:47,850 | 01:09:49,726 | It's exciting. It's raw. | It's exciting. It's raw. |
| 1109 | 01:09:49,727 | 01:09:51,561 | It's sexy. It's alive. | It's sexy. It's alive. |
| 1110 | 01:09:51,562 | 01:09:54,147 | It's about the stuff of human life. | It's about the stuff of human life. |
| 1111 | 01:09:54,148 | 01:09:57,150 | [upbeat electronic music] | [upbeat electronic music] |
| 1112 | 01:09:57,151 | 01:10:05,158 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 1113 | 01:10:33,145 | 01:10:35,480 | ♪ I need some time, please ♪ | ♪ I need some time, please ♪ |
| 1114 | 01:10:35,481 | 01:10:36,940 | ♪ My battery has died ♪ | ♪ My battery has died ♪ |
| 1115 | 01:10:36,941 | 01:10:39,484 | ♪ I need to plug in ♪ | ♪ I need to plug in ♪ |
| 1116 | 01:10:39,485 | 01:10:40,944 | ♪ Just be electrified ♪ | ♪ Just be electrified ♪ |
| 1117 | 01:10:40,945 | 01:10:43,238 | ♪ I need to reboot ♪ | ♪ I need to reboot ♪ |
| 1118 | 01:10:43,239 | 01:10:44,948 | ♪ Or I am bound to crack ♪ | ♪ Or I am bound to crack ♪ |
| 1119 | 01:10:44,949 | 01:10:48,952 | ♪ Don't know how long my backup disk would last ♪ | ♪ Don't know how long my backup disk would last ♪ |
| 1120 | 01:10:48,953 | 01:10:51,788 | Her ultimate goal is to bring people | Her ultimate goal is to bring people |
| 1121 | 01:10:51,789 | 01:10:53,998 | of all backgrounds to ballet, | of all backgrounds to ballet, |
| 1122 | 01:10:53,999 | 01:10:56,251 | people who never saw themselves | people who never saw themselves |
| 1123 | 01:10:56,252 | 01:10:58,127 | sitting inside the Metropolitan Opera House, | sitting inside the Metropolitan Opera House, |
| 1124 | 01:10:58,128 | 01:10:59,337 | making them feel welcome. | making them feel welcome. |
| 1125 | 01:10:59,338 | 01:11:02,340 | [dramatic music] | [dramatic music] |
| 1126 | 01:11:02,341 | 01:11:10,348 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 1127 | 01:11:27,783 | 01:11:30,201 | - Hello. - She told me it's next Sunday. | - Hello. - She told me it's next Sunday. |
| 1128 | 01:11:30,202 | 01:11:31,703 | It's good to see you. | It's good to see you. |
| 1129 | 01:11:31,704 | 01:11:32,704 | Damn! | Damn! |
| 1130 | 01:11:32,705 | 01:11:35,707 | [indistinct chatter] | [indistinct chatter] |
| 1131 | 01:11:37,418 | 01:11:40,003 | I got scared when I came around the corner. | I got scared when I came around the corner. |
| 1132 | 01:11:40,004 | 01:11:41,212 | - What? - Ah! | - What? - Ah! |
| 1133 | 01:11:41,213 | 01:11:42,380 | You really hadn't been? | You really hadn't been? |
| 1134 | 01:11:42,381 | 01:11:43,548 | No, I haven't been yet. | No, I haven't been yet. |
| 1135 | 01:11:43,549 | 01:11:45,550 | I've just seen photos. | I've just seen photos. |
| 1136 | 01:11:45,551 | 01:11:47,969 | Oh, my God. | Oh, my God. |
| 1137 | 01:11:47,970 | 01:11:50,430 | [laughs] | [laughs] |
| 1138 | 01:11:50,431 | 01:11:51,889 | And you can read your name from it too. | And you can read your name from it too. |
| 1139 | 01:11:51,890 | 01:11:52,890 | I was like this, "Ah!" | I was like this, "Ah!" |
| 1140 | 01:11:52,891 | 01:11:55,101 | [laughs] | [laughs] |
| 1141 | 01:11:55,102 | 01:11:56,644 | I thought I'd missed something drastic. | I thought I'd missed something drastic. |
| 1142 | 01:11:56,645 | 01:11:58,438 | - How are you? - How are you? | - How are you? - How are you? |
| 1143 | 01:11:58,439 | 01:12:00,189 | Don't do anything crazy. | Don't do anything crazy. |
| 1144 | 01:12:00,190 | 01:12:02,900 | - Good to see you. - Hi! | - Good to see you. - Hi! |
| 1145 | 01:12:02,901 | 01:12:05,486 | Oh, my God. Are you ready for this? | Oh, my God. Are you ready for this? |
| 1146 | 01:12:05,487 | 01:12:06,612 | This is amazing. | This is amazing. |
| 1147 | 01:12:06,613 | 01:12:08,406 | We were just talking about you too. | We were just talking about you too. |
| 1148 | 01:12:08,407 | 01:12:09,449 | We were just like... [humming] | We were just like... [humming] |
| 1149 | 01:12:09,450 | 01:12:11,159 | And I'm like, "Hold on." | And I'm like, "Hold on." |
| 1150 | 01:12:11,160 | 01:12:12,452 | And she's like, "Do I talk to her?" | And she's like, "Do I talk to her?" |
| 1151 | 01:12:12,453 | 01:12:13,661 | I was like, "I literally see her | I was like, "I literally see her |
| 1152 | 01:12:13,662 | 01:12:14,996 | everywhere on Facebook." | everywhere on Facebook." |
| 1153 | 01:12:14,997 | 01:12:16,956 | Like, everyone is like, "Wow, look at this." | Like, everyone is like, "Wow, look at this." |
| 1154 | 01:12:16,957 | 01:12:19,959 | [indistinct chatter] | [indistinct chatter] |
| 1155 | 01:12:19,960 | 01:12:21,586 | Just see 'em work, girl. | Just see 'em work, girl. |
| 1156 | 01:12:21,587 | 01:12:22,587 | See 'em work. | See 'em work. |
| 1157 | 01:12:22,588 | 01:12:24,255 | - It was nice to meet you. - Thank you so much. | - It was nice to meet you. - Thank you so much. |
| 1158 | 01:12:24,256 | 01:12:26,632 | - Yeah, same here, same here. - Congratulations. | - Yeah, same here, same here. - Congratulations. |
| 1159 | 01:12:26,633 | 01:12:27,967 | You're larger than life. | You're larger than life. |
| 1160 | 01:12:27,968 | 01:12:30,011 | Now you literally are larger than life. | Now you literally are larger than life. |
| 1161 | 01:12:30,012 | 01:12:32,221 | We're all so proud of you, and you will what you want. | We're all so proud of you, and you will what you want. |
| 1162 | 01:12:32,222 | 01:12:35,224 | [all cheering] | [all cheering] |
| 1163 | 01:12:38,729 | 01:12:40,229 | - Cheers. - I will what I want. | - Cheers. - I will what I want. |
| 1164 | 01:12:40,230 | 01:12:41,522 | Go, Misty. | Go, Misty. |
| 1165 | 01:12:41,523 | 01:12:43,733 | [laughter] | [laughter] |
| 1166 | 01:12:43,734 | 01:12:45,360 | Thank you guys for coming down. | Thank you guys for coming down. |
| 1167 | 01:12:45,361 | 01:12:46,611 | Thank you. | Thank you. |
| 1168 | 01:12:46,612 | 01:12:48,613 | Aw! | Aw! |
| 1169 | 01:12:48,614 | 01:12:50,698 | This is what athletes do. | This is what athletes do. |
| 1170 | 01:12:50,699 | 01:12:52,575 | [laughter] | [laughter] |
| 1171 | 01:13:08,008 | 01:13:11,010 | [lively piano music] | [lively piano music] |
| 1172 | 01:13:11,011 | 01:13:19,018 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 1173 | 01:13:29,446 | 01:13:31,447 | I didn't change my shoes this time. | I didn't change my shoes this time. |
| 1174 | 01:13:33,367 | 01:13:35,118 | We will talk about... | We will talk about... |
| 1175 | 01:13:35,119 | 01:13:37,787 | I did exactly what you told me not to do. | I did exactly what you told me not to do. |
| 1176 | 01:13:37,788 | 01:13:40,081 | [speaking indistinctly] | [speaking indistinctly] |
| 1177 | 01:13:40,082 | 01:13:41,499 | - We will talk. - Okay. | - We will talk. - Okay. |
| 1178 | 01:13:41,500 | 01:13:44,085 | You're doing very hard for yourself. | You're doing very hard for yourself. |
| 1179 | 01:13:44,086 | 01:13:46,671 | You do it like this and then try | You do it like this and then try |
| 1180 | 01:13:46,672 | 01:13:48,464 | to stay on the pointe and go there. | to stay on the pointe and go there. |
| 1181 | 01:13:48,465 | 01:13:49,507 | Yeah. | Yeah. |
| 1182 | 01:13:49,508 | 01:13:52,427 | Don't finish over there, and then we will come. | Don't finish over there, and then we will come. |
| 1183 | 01:13:52,428 | 01:13:54,178 | It's a major coup, I think, | It's a major coup, I think, |
| 1184 | 01:13:54,179 | 01:13:57,181 | that ABT has recently cast Misty | that ABT has recently cast Misty |
| 1185 | 01:13:57,182 | 01:14:00,184 | to play Odette/Odile in "Swan Lake," | to play Odette/Odile in "Swan Lake," |
| 1186 | 01:14:00,185 | 01:14:04,856 | one of the most iconic ballets in the classical repertoire. | one of the most iconic ballets in the classical repertoire. |
| 1187 | 01:14:04,857 | 01:14:06,941 | People think ballet, they think "Swan Lake," | People think ballet, they think "Swan Lake," |
| 1188 | 01:14:06,942 | 01:14:09,610 | but they don't usually think of a black white swan. | but they don't usually think of a black white swan. |
| 1189 | 01:14:09,611 | 01:14:12,613 | [lively piano music] | [lively piano music] |
| 1190 | 01:14:12,614 | 01:14:20,621 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 1191 | 01:15:20,265 | 01:15:23,267 | [lively violin music] | [lively violin music] |
| 1192 | 01:15:23,268 | 01:15:31,275 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 1193 | 01:15:56,093 | 01:15:59,095 | [gentle violin music] | [gentle violin music] |
| 1194 | 01:15:59,096 | 01:16:07,103 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 1195 | 01:16:24,830 | 01:16:27,832 | [dramatic music] | [dramatic music] |
| 1196 | 01:16:27,833 | 01:16:35,840 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 1197 | 01:16:54,067 | 01:16:57,069 | [music crescendos] | [music crescendos] |
| 1198 | 01:16:57,070 | 01:17:05,077 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |
| 1199 | 01:17:28,518 | 01:17:31,520 | [cheers and applause] | [cheers and applause] |
| 1200 | 01:18:09,226 | 01:18:12,228 | [somber piano music] | [somber piano music] |
| 1201 | 01:18:12,229 | 01:18:20,236 | ♪ ♪ | ♪ ♪ |