1 00:00:05,589 --> 00:00:06,590 [guard] Open two. 2 00:00:10,469 --> 00:00:11,637 Move forward. 3 00:00:13,931 --> 00:00:16,808 -[guard 2] You want him to come this way?-Yeah. Right there. 4 00:00:18,185 --> 00:00:21,021 [radio chatter, faint] 5 00:00:22,439 --> 00:00:23,732 I got this one. 6 00:00:23,815 --> 00:00:24,858 Yes, sir. 7 00:00:28,570 --> 00:00:30,864 I got a thing for celebrities. 8 00:00:34,243 --> 00:00:38,956 [patting down] 9 00:00:49,383 --> 00:00:51,760 Kuvney will tell you who this is for. 10 00:00:54,721 --> 00:00:55,722 He's good to go. 11 00:01:19,621 --> 00:01:21,123 [sighs] 12 00:01:24,626 --> 00:01:26,003 You okay? 13 00:01:27,921 --> 00:01:29,298 The code worked. 14 00:01:29,965 --> 00:01:31,967 I translated the diary. 15 00:01:35,220 --> 00:01:38,849 It's, uh, not easy to hear. 16 00:01:39,266 --> 00:01:40,267 Why? 17 00:01:42,769 --> 00:01:44,688 Chuck was molesting Lanie. 18 00:01:47,357 --> 00:01:48,442 What? 19 00:01:49,776 --> 00:01:50,944 No. 20 00:01:51,028 --> 00:01:52,446 She never told you? 21 00:01:52,529 --> 00:01:53,530 No. 22 00:01:54,406 --> 00:01:57,409 Did you ever suspect anything like that? 23 00:02:01,830 --> 00:02:03,332 Wait, so you... 24 00:02:04,750 --> 00:02:07,961 think that she killed Chuck because of it? 25 00:02:10,380 --> 00:02:14,218 I think that Erin didto protect her daughter. 26 00:02:16,053 --> 00:02:21,892 And I think that she coached Lanieinto identifying you. 27 00:02:25,270 --> 00:02:26,772 [sighs] 28 00:02:26,855 --> 00:02:28,857 Erin always hated me. 29 00:02:30,025 --> 00:02:31,860 I never knew why. 30 00:02:34,071 --> 00:02:35,280 [inhales] 31 00:02:35,364 --> 00:02:37,699 Rivalry with my mother. 32 00:02:39,576 --> 00:02:45,624 Did she act suspiciously before the partyin the weeks leading up? 33 00:02:48,961 --> 00:02:51,588 She wasn't really around. 34 00:02:53,090 --> 00:02:57,010 She was gone for, like, a monththat September before Halloween. 35 00:02:59,721 --> 00:03:00,722 A month? 36 00:03:04,393 --> 00:03:05,394 Yeah. 37 00:03:44,850 --> 00:03:48,478 [inmates clamoring] 38 00:04:33,482 --> 00:04:36,151 [Lanie] Warren, I know you hate my guts. 39 00:04:36,818 --> 00:04:38,695 Maybe you didn't even open this letter. 40 00:04:39,821 --> 00:04:42,908 You probably chucked itas soon as you saw it was from me. 41 00:04:45,202 --> 00:04:46,745 I wouldn't blame you. 42 00:04:47,246 --> 00:04:50,374 Did you see my return address?You know what that means? 43 00:04:51,708 --> 00:04:53,919 I'm locked up just like you. 44 00:04:54,002 --> 00:04:57,047 Sometimes knowing thatis the only thing that keeps me going. 45 00:04:57,840 --> 00:04:59,675 It makes me feel a little better. 46 00:05:03,428 --> 00:05:05,848 I'm not asking you to be my pen pal. 47 00:05:05,931 --> 00:05:07,933 I just want you to know that I'm scared. 48 00:05:08,016 --> 00:05:09,476 That I'm all alone too. 49 00:05:10,727 --> 00:05:14,189 Sometimes I wish I could be locked awayuntil I die just like you. 50 00:05:15,482 --> 00:05:17,526 I don't wanna go backto the real world now. 51 00:05:17,609 --> 00:05:19,695 There's nothing left for me there. 52 00:05:19,778 --> 00:05:21,363 Now you'll never forget me. 53 00:05:21,780 --> 00:05:23,532 I wonder if you feel the same. 54 00:05:25,617 --> 00:05:28,245 I love you. Don't write back. 55 00:05:28,328 --> 00:05:29,955 Love, Lanie. 56 00:05:51,226 --> 00:05:53,145 [breathes deeply] 57 00:05:55,856 --> 00:05:57,649 [Josie] Don't worry, almost there. 58 00:06:02,154 --> 00:06:03,906 Okay, take it off. 59 00:06:12,831 --> 00:06:14,124 Ta-da! 60 00:06:14,208 --> 00:06:15,542 It's our old place. 61 00:06:15,626 --> 00:06:17,044 Remember? 62 00:06:17,878 --> 00:06:21,173 Oh, man, I used to dream about this spotwhen I was in New York. 63 00:06:21,882 --> 00:06:25,511 Which is a little weird 'cause we haven'tbeen here since I was, like, nine. 64 00:06:25,594 --> 00:06:28,388 But... come on! Sit. 65 00:06:34,353 --> 00:06:35,354 Wow. 66 00:06:36,939 --> 00:06:40,192 Well, you have been so supportive 67 00:06:40,275 --> 00:06:43,529 through whatever this is with Caleb, 68 00:06:43,612 --> 00:06:46,365 so I've decided to stay for a bit longer. 69 00:06:46,448 --> 00:06:47,616 You can stay with us. 70 00:06:48,367 --> 00:06:50,744 Really. For as long as you want.We would love to have you. 71 00:06:50,827 --> 00:06:52,079 Thanks. 72 00:06:52,162 --> 00:06:53,455 [chuckles] 73 00:06:55,374 --> 00:06:56,583 I'll get it. 74 00:07:27,739 --> 00:07:29,449 [young Lanie] Go away, Josie. 75 00:07:36,248 --> 00:07:38,876 -[crying]-Josie! 76 00:07:39,459 --> 00:07:40,919 [Lanie] Josie, are you okay? 77 00:07:42,671 --> 00:07:43,797 Are you okay? 78 00:07:47,801 --> 00:07:51,513 -Hey, hey.-Hey. What's up, my ladies of mayhem? 79 00:07:51,597 --> 00:07:53,932 -[chuckles]-I come bearing gifts. 80 00:07:54,016 --> 00:07:56,727 And the best kind too:the gift of knowledge. 81 00:07:56,810 --> 00:07:58,812 Erin Buhrman was arrestedfor drunk driving. 82 00:07:58,896 --> 00:07:59,980 Hardly a surprise. 83 00:08:00,063 --> 00:08:01,565 But this is the interesting part. 84 00:08:01,648 --> 00:08:04,318 Went to court-ordered rehabin August of 1999. 85 00:08:04,401 --> 00:08:08,238 She got out in September and was homea month before Chuck was murdered. 86 00:08:08,322 --> 00:08:11,533 Her alibi was that she was drunk andpassed out, slept through the whole thing. 87 00:08:11,617 --> 00:08:13,744 But if she was fresh outta rehab, 88 00:08:13,827 --> 00:08:16,705 she might've been sober that nightand lying to the police. 89 00:08:16,788 --> 00:08:18,165 That's a big "if." 90 00:08:18,248 --> 00:08:21,084 I know a lot of alcoholics that,as soon as they get out of rehab, 91 00:08:21,168 --> 00:08:23,086 the first thing they dois head straight to the liquor store. 92 00:08:23,170 --> 00:08:26,131 So, we visit the rehabto see if that sobriety stuck. 93 00:08:28,217 --> 00:08:31,595 They found you guilty in absentia,which triggered the arrest warrant, 94 00:08:31,678 --> 00:08:33,096 but we took care of it. 95 00:08:33,179 --> 00:08:34,932 -That's it?-That's it. 96 00:08:35,515 --> 00:08:36,850 Well, I owe you one. 97 00:08:38,644 --> 00:08:41,188 Maybe I'll take you shopping,spice you up a little bit. 98 00:08:41,270 --> 00:08:45,692 [chuckles] Can I ask you a questionabout Poppy in foster care? 99 00:08:45,776 --> 00:08:48,445 -With Miss Shirley?-Yes, who was she exactly? 100 00:08:48,529 --> 00:08:50,906 Shirley Maxwell.She's one of those neighborhood aunties. 101 00:08:50,989 --> 00:08:51,990 Poppy stayed with her. 102 00:08:52,074 --> 00:08:53,450 The three of you were separated? 103 00:08:53,534 --> 00:08:56,286 Me and Desiree went to Daddy's cousin. 104 00:08:56,370 --> 00:08:59,915 Poppy was there for a year. She makes itsound like she was breaking rocks for ten. 105 00:09:00,332 --> 00:09:01,792 -A year?-Mm-hmm. 106 00:09:02,376 --> 00:09:03,627 Thank you. 107 00:09:10,175 --> 00:09:12,177 -Need anything?-[door closes] 108 00:09:13,220 --> 00:09:17,474 Yeah. Get me what you canon a Shirley Maxwell. 109 00:09:17,558 --> 00:09:20,686 Oakland resident. Around 1979, 1980. 110 00:09:20,769 --> 00:09:21,812 No problem. 111 00:09:28,110 --> 00:09:30,279 [Poppy]Trying to figure out clues to a crime 112 00:09:30,362 --> 00:09:34,199 that happened 19 years ago isn't easy. 113 00:09:35,701 --> 00:09:38,704 But you know who the unsung heroes are?You. 114 00:09:39,830 --> 00:09:41,206 The listeners. 115 00:09:41,290 --> 00:09:43,917 The people out there diggingfor the answers, 116 00:09:44,001 --> 00:09:45,502 trying to find out the truth. 117 00:09:47,337 --> 00:09:49,381 [on recording]So how do you help the people stay sober? 118 00:09:49,464 --> 00:09:53,427 Well, we normally connect themwith a high quality sober coach 119 00:09:53,510 --> 00:09:55,012 and provide outpatient AA meetings. 120 00:09:55,095 --> 00:09:59,600 The New Soul Rehab Center won't discloseinformation about past clients. 121 00:09:59,683 --> 00:10:05,439 Say I'm using Erin Buhrman as an exampleof a type of patient. 122 00:10:05,522 --> 00:10:09,985 Hmm. Well, for that type of patient,I'd say JoAnna Diaz. 123 00:10:10,861 --> 00:10:15,574 And that type of patientmight have used JoAnna multiple times 124 00:10:15,657 --> 00:10:16,658 throughout the years. 125 00:10:16,742 --> 00:10:20,829 An anonymous source confirmedErin Buhrman stayed at New Soul 126 00:10:20,913 --> 00:10:23,290 and led us to her sober coach. 127 00:10:23,373 --> 00:10:25,042 [Poppy]What can you tell me about Erin Buhrman? 128 00:10:25,125 --> 00:10:27,628 [woman] She was stone-cold soberwhen she called me in a rage 129 00:10:27,711 --> 00:10:30,088 about her husband making eyesat some neighbor that night, 130 00:10:30,506 --> 00:10:32,090 but she was on Antabuse. 131 00:10:32,174 --> 00:10:33,634 [Poppy] What's Antabuse? 132 00:10:33,717 --> 00:10:36,094 It's a drug that makes you throw upif you drink alcohol. 133 00:10:36,762 --> 00:10:38,847 -Was she on it the night of the murder?-Mm-hmm. 134 00:10:38,931 --> 00:10:42,893 If Erin was sober the night of the murder,why did she lie to the police? 135 00:10:43,519 --> 00:10:44,853 What is Erin hiding? 136 00:10:44,937 --> 00:10:49,316 And is this the reasonWarren was sent to prison? 137 00:10:49,399 --> 00:10:52,861 [man grunting] 138 00:11:04,414 --> 00:11:06,583 [men clamoring] 139 00:11:16,260 --> 00:11:17,886 [laughing] 140 00:11:23,308 --> 00:11:25,811 [Kuvney]What the hell are you doing down here? 141 00:11:26,895 --> 00:11:27,896 Huh? 142 00:11:29,439 --> 00:11:30,649 Hey. 143 00:11:31,692 --> 00:11:32,985 [grunts] 144 00:11:34,152 --> 00:11:36,864 I didn't see anything.I didn't see anything. 145 00:11:37,531 --> 00:11:40,284 Well, what was there to see? 146 00:11:42,536 --> 00:11:43,537 Nothing. 147 00:11:43,620 --> 00:11:46,290 [gasping] 148 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,173 Who are you... without me? 149 00:11:58,302 --> 00:11:59,344 Tell me. 150 00:12:00,846 --> 00:12:01,847 Say it. 151 00:12:04,308 --> 00:12:06,310 -Nothing.-Uh-huh. 152 00:12:06,810 --> 00:12:08,145 I'm nothing. 153 00:12:08,896 --> 00:12:11,190 [grunts] 154 00:12:12,232 --> 00:12:14,443 [gasping, grunts] 155 00:12:14,985 --> 00:12:16,737 [gasps] 156 00:12:16,820 --> 00:12:18,655 [groaning] 157 00:12:19,281 --> 00:12:20,616 You took me. 158 00:12:22,075 --> 00:12:23,702 You "protected me." 159 00:12:25,162 --> 00:12:29,833 Whose face do you think I seewhen I go to bed at night? 160 00:12:29,917 --> 00:12:31,835 You motherfucker. 161 00:12:33,587 --> 00:12:37,549 -[groans]-And you call that a "family"? 162 00:12:38,967 --> 00:12:40,135 [grunts] 163 00:12:49,770 --> 00:12:52,231 [breathing raggedly] 164 00:12:56,026 --> 00:12:57,778 [men chattering] 165 00:13:02,324 --> 00:13:03,867 [chattering continues] 166 00:13:11,250 --> 00:13:13,669 [chattering grows louder] 167 00:13:16,797 --> 00:13:19,675 [breathing shakily] 168 00:13:22,052 --> 00:13:25,013 [chattering continues] 169 00:13:29,184 --> 00:13:30,435 [knocking] 170 00:13:30,519 --> 00:13:36,525 Ella, honey, why am I the one in hereputting your toys away? 171 00:13:37,359 --> 00:13:38,819 'Cause you're the daddy. 172 00:13:39,236 --> 00:13:42,072 That's right. I'm the daddy. Yeah. 173 00:13:45,158 --> 00:13:47,286 No. Lanie's not here. 174 00:13:47,369 --> 00:13:49,538 This is about your mother-in-law,not Lanie. 175 00:13:49,621 --> 00:13:51,582 I think she's the key to Chuck's murder. 176 00:13:53,834 --> 00:13:56,879 You're an outsider.You've probably noticed some things. 177 00:13:56,962 --> 00:13:58,338 I can't help you. 178 00:13:58,422 --> 00:14:00,257 You want Erin out of your life? 179 00:14:00,340 --> 00:14:02,009 Your life back with Lanie? 180 00:14:02,092 --> 00:14:05,262 Then help me fill in the gaps,get closer to Erin. 181 00:14:09,683 --> 00:14:10,726 Okay. 182 00:14:14,271 --> 00:14:18,192 We, uh, had to bail her out of jailthe week she came home. 183 00:14:18,275 --> 00:14:20,903 -What?-She broke into their old house. 184 00:14:20,986 --> 00:14:22,571 The house they grew up in. 185 00:14:22,654 --> 00:14:25,199 And, well, the new owners,they called the police. 186 00:14:27,951 --> 00:14:29,453 [key clattering] 187 00:14:29,536 --> 00:14:31,371 [door squeaks] 188 00:14:36,084 --> 00:14:37,377 -Hey.-[man] Yeah? 189 00:14:37,461 --> 00:14:39,087 -Kuvney?-Ain't see him. 190 00:14:40,214 --> 00:14:41,423 Where's Kuvney? 191 00:14:48,013 --> 00:14:49,348 Cave. 192 00:14:54,311 --> 00:14:55,979 You seen Kuvney around? 193 00:14:58,148 --> 00:14:59,233 No. 194 00:15:00,859 --> 00:15:02,653 When was the last time you saw him? 195 00:15:03,362 --> 00:15:05,405 Uh, yesterday. 196 00:15:06,365 --> 00:15:07,491 Really? 197 00:15:09,326 --> 00:15:10,494 You sure? 198 00:15:11,328 --> 00:15:12,329 Yeah. 199 00:15:14,331 --> 00:15:15,332 Why? 200 00:15:25,968 --> 00:15:27,511 -Here we go.-What the hell? 201 00:15:27,594 --> 00:15:30,514 -It's the O.J. effect. Human nature.-[shouting] 202 00:15:30,597 --> 00:15:32,599 All of this because of the podcast. 203 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,854 [shouting continues] 204 00:15:36,937 --> 00:15:38,522 [man] We bought it four years ago. 205 00:15:38,605 --> 00:15:41,567 We knew the history going in.It was never a problem for us. 206 00:15:41,650 --> 00:15:42,734 [man 2] Until your podcast. 207 00:15:47,656 --> 00:15:48,949 Chuck's office. 208 00:15:53,036 --> 00:15:55,080 Just show us where you found Erin. 209 00:15:58,292 --> 00:16:01,128 So, we came home from our dinnerand found her down here. 210 00:16:02,671 --> 00:16:06,717 She'd snuck in through a bathroom windowthat wasn't connected to our alarm system. 211 00:16:08,385 --> 00:16:11,138 Yeah. A lot of houses like that. 212 00:16:12,598 --> 00:16:15,017 This is not the first oneshe's broken into. 213 00:16:16,935 --> 00:16:18,020 Where exactly was she? 214 00:16:18,103 --> 00:16:19,396 In here. 215 00:16:19,479 --> 00:16:21,356 So, what did she do when you found her? 216 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,734 She laughed and apologized. 217 00:16:23,817 --> 00:16:27,237 Said that she stopped bybecause she was feeling nostalgic. 218 00:16:28,238 --> 00:16:29,573 It was creepy as shit. 219 00:16:29,656 --> 00:16:32,492 -Was there anything missing? Stolen?-Zero. 220 00:16:32,576 --> 00:16:34,369 Hey, Poppy, check this out. 221 00:16:38,832 --> 00:16:41,335 Hey, was this like thatbefore she got here? 222 00:16:42,211 --> 00:16:43,754 -I don't think so.-No. 223 00:16:43,837 --> 00:16:44,838 [Markus] Hmm. 224 00:16:46,673 --> 00:16:48,425 She was looking for something. 225 00:16:49,384 --> 00:16:50,552 The murder weapon? 226 00:16:50,636 --> 00:16:51,845 Was never found. 227 00:16:51,929 --> 00:16:55,224 If she was looking for money or jewelry,she would have come after it years ago. 228 00:16:55,307 --> 00:16:57,684 So she kills Chuck,hides the knife before the cops come, 229 00:16:57,768 --> 00:16:59,019 goes about her business, 230 00:16:59,102 --> 00:17:02,314 then comes back for it 'cause she's afraidyou're gonna figure out she did it. 231 00:17:02,397 --> 00:17:04,566 [Markus]For 20 years nobody's talked about this. 232 00:17:04,650 --> 00:17:08,278 You mention it on your podcastand now she has to come back. 233 00:17:08,362 --> 00:17:09,363 Cover her tracks. 234 00:17:09,445 --> 00:17:12,616 Except she never got it. There was nothingon her when she was arrested. 235 00:17:12,699 --> 00:17:14,034 This is money, Poppy. 236 00:17:14,117 --> 00:17:15,743 You gotta work her hard. 237 00:17:16,161 --> 00:17:20,207 Mmm. Erin won't give me anything.She's too smart for that. 238 00:17:20,874 --> 00:17:24,252 But she is nervous and impulsive. 239 00:17:24,336 --> 00:17:26,128 So we get her to make a move. 240 00:17:26,213 --> 00:17:27,214 [Noa] How? 241 00:17:28,131 --> 00:17:29,508 We smoke her out. 242 00:17:31,426 --> 00:17:32,427 Ugh. 243 00:17:34,763 --> 00:17:35,848 [guard] Check him. 244 00:17:37,891 --> 00:17:39,518 [alarm blaring] 245 00:17:39,601 --> 00:17:41,812 [guard on PA]Lockdown. All prisoners, lockdown. 246 00:17:42,312 --> 00:17:43,313 On the ground. 247 00:17:46,984 --> 00:17:49,945 [alarm continues blaring] 248 00:17:55,409 --> 00:17:57,786 [Melanie on phone] Erin suspected,but she suspected any woman 249 00:17:57,870 --> 00:17:59,705 that came into Chuck's orbit. 250 00:17:59,788 --> 00:18:02,165 -[Poppy] You believed Erin's alibi?-[Melanie laughs] 251 00:18:02,249 --> 00:18:04,251 [phone ringing] 252 00:18:14,595 --> 00:18:16,138 Yeah, hello? Hello? 253 00:18:16,221 --> 00:18:17,472 Ms. Buhrman, this is Tim. 254 00:18:17,973 --> 00:18:20,434 I think we foundwhat you were looking for. 255 00:18:20,517 --> 00:18:22,227 Why don't you come by the house? 256 00:18:24,438 --> 00:18:26,523 [guard] Let's go. Yep. 257 00:18:28,483 --> 00:18:29,610 Yo, that's for you, man. 258 00:18:31,820 --> 00:18:34,323 [inmates chattering] 259 00:19:06,688 --> 00:19:09,066 Hey, it's, uh, Warren. 260 00:19:11,443 --> 00:19:13,070 I need to see you... 261 00:19:15,405 --> 00:19:17,032 before it's too late. 262 00:19:19,117 --> 00:19:20,452 Please come. 263 00:19:37,302 --> 00:19:38,595 Let's hear it. 264 00:19:38,679 --> 00:19:41,473 We found what you were looking forwhen you broke in here. 265 00:19:41,890 --> 00:19:43,809 Found it deep in the old furnace. 266 00:19:44,476 --> 00:19:45,477 Yeah? 267 00:19:45,561 --> 00:19:48,313 Five grand and it's yoursor we go to the police. 268 00:19:49,064 --> 00:19:50,315 I'd like to see it first. 269 00:19:50,399 --> 00:19:52,192 [Tim] When we see the cash. 270 00:19:52,276 --> 00:19:53,861 Describe it to me, asshole. 271 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:56,780 It was a knife. 272 00:19:57,281 --> 00:19:59,658 [laughs] Nice try. 273 00:20:01,535 --> 00:20:04,329 -[Tim on phone] She just walked away.-You did exactly what Poppy said to? 274 00:20:04,413 --> 00:20:05,497 Yes. 275 00:20:05,581 --> 00:20:07,666 Thank you, guys. You were perfect. 276 00:20:09,710 --> 00:20:10,711 She didn't bite. 277 00:20:11,295 --> 00:20:15,424 I never expected her to.But the woman is definitely guilty. 278 00:20:15,507 --> 00:20:16,508 Based on what? 279 00:20:16,592 --> 00:20:20,262 She showed up. And now we knowwe're not looking for a knife. 280 00:21:10,479 --> 00:21:11,605 Why'd you call me? 281 00:21:12,481 --> 00:21:14,650 I didn't think you'd actually show. 282 00:21:18,654 --> 00:21:20,239 I needed to see you. 283 00:21:23,408 --> 00:21:24,618 Get rid of it. 284 00:21:25,327 --> 00:21:26,620 Get rid of what? 285 00:21:27,454 --> 00:21:28,789 Hating you. 286 00:21:30,749 --> 00:21:32,501 I'm gonna die in here. 287 00:21:41,426 --> 00:21:42,719 [sighs] 288 00:21:42,803 --> 00:21:44,471 Do you remember this? 289 00:21:48,684 --> 00:21:50,060 I didn't think you got it. 290 00:21:50,894 --> 00:21:52,396 I know it by heart. 291 00:21:57,526 --> 00:22:00,320 Only one thing made me keep it. 292 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,616 Is it true? 293 00:22:05,367 --> 00:22:06,827 Is what true? 294 00:22:07,411 --> 00:22:09,580 You told me you loved me. 295 00:22:11,915 --> 00:22:13,292 Was it true? 296 00:22:18,547 --> 00:22:19,548 Warren... 297 00:22:19,631 --> 00:22:23,677 "I don't want to go backto the real world now. 298 00:22:25,971 --> 00:22:28,265 There's nothing left for me there. 299 00:22:31,393 --> 00:22:33,312 [breathes deeply] 300 00:22:33,395 --> 00:22:36,023 I wonder if you feel the same. 301 00:22:37,441 --> 00:22:40,903 I love you. Don't write back. 302 00:22:42,154 --> 00:22:45,324 Love, Lanie." 303 00:22:47,993 --> 00:22:52,331 Just tell me. Please. 304 00:22:55,083 --> 00:22:56,710 Was it true? 305 00:22:57,419 --> 00:22:59,046 Nothing I say... 306 00:23:00,422 --> 00:23:02,257 can help you. 307 00:23:07,554 --> 00:23:08,722 Warren... 308 00:23:09,932 --> 00:23:11,433 Don't. 309 00:23:13,977 --> 00:23:18,649 "If you live through this with me..." 310 00:23:24,029 --> 00:23:26,532 "...I swear that I would die for you." 311 00:23:43,757 --> 00:23:45,717 You should've told me... 312 00:23:47,886 --> 00:23:49,555 about your father. 313 00:23:50,347 --> 00:23:52,057 What he was doing to you. 314 00:23:58,981 --> 00:24:03,610 So you think you--You think you know everything? 315 00:24:05,445 --> 00:24:08,490 You think you have the missing pieceto the whole mystery now? 316 00:24:08,574 --> 00:24:09,575 Lanie. 317 00:24:14,329 --> 00:24:19,126 If I had known,I would've killed him myself. 318 00:24:30,721 --> 00:24:32,181 Warren. 319 00:24:33,849 --> 00:24:35,184 You know... 320 00:24:36,894 --> 00:24:41,899 you're still the only girlI have ever kissed. 321 00:24:49,948 --> 00:24:51,783 You are still-- 322 00:24:56,496 --> 00:24:59,833 You are still the only boy I ever loved. 323 00:24:59,917 --> 00:25:04,046 [rock ballad playing] 324 00:25:04,129 --> 00:25:05,130 Okay. 325 00:25:08,175 --> 00:25:10,385 Then why did you lie about me? 326 00:25:19,019 --> 00:25:21,480 Lanie. Lanie, Lanie. Lanie! 327 00:25:36,161 --> 00:25:38,789 [ballad continues playing] 328 00:25:46,755 --> 00:25:48,048 [keys jingling] 329 00:26:00,477 --> 00:26:02,938 [breathing rapidly] 330 00:26:08,026 --> 00:26:10,195 [sobbing] 331 00:26:52,613 --> 00:26:54,198 Siri, call Desiree. 332 00:26:54,281 --> 00:26:55,574 [Siri] Calling Desiree. 333 00:26:56,325 --> 00:26:57,701 [Desiree] Hey, Poppy. 334 00:26:57,784 --> 00:27:01,079 Hey. Did I leave Mama's fanafter church on Sunday? 335 00:27:01,163 --> 00:27:03,123 Uh, I haven't seen any. 336 00:27:04,124 --> 00:27:06,585 Okay. Thanks. 337 00:27:07,961 --> 00:27:10,047 [footsteps] 338 00:27:13,884 --> 00:27:14,885 Don't lecture me. 339 00:27:14,968 --> 00:27:18,639 Honestly, Mom,I just came to check the mail, 340 00:27:19,473 --> 00:27:21,183 and I find you drunk on the floor. 341 00:27:21,266 --> 00:27:26,188 I do really wanna be kind here,so just don't make me regret it. 342 00:27:26,271 --> 00:27:27,523 You sound like your sister. 343 00:27:30,192 --> 00:27:34,696 Lanie told me that Caleb left you.What will you do? 344 00:27:34,780 --> 00:27:36,240 I don't know yet. 345 00:27:36,823 --> 00:27:38,367 I tried to protect you. 346 00:27:41,495 --> 00:27:43,705 [flames crackling] 347 00:28:04,726 --> 00:28:07,312 I think I'm gonna stay in Menlo Parkfor a while. 348 00:28:07,855 --> 00:28:08,856 Good. 349 00:28:10,774 --> 00:28:12,818 It'll be good for your sister. 350 00:28:13,402 --> 00:28:15,571 Maybe I could come home for Christmas. 351 00:28:15,654 --> 00:28:16,697 You're leaving? 352 00:28:18,073 --> 00:28:19,408 It's time. 353 00:28:20,576 --> 00:28:22,077 Why don't you stay? 354 00:28:23,495 --> 00:28:27,291 You could take the timeto clean yourself up, you know? 355 00:28:27,374 --> 00:28:29,293 Um, start over. 356 00:28:35,424 --> 00:28:40,512 I left you guys for 17 years 'causeI thought that that would make me better. 357 00:28:41,805 --> 00:28:45,851 You know, that I could escape the wreckageof what happened to our family, but... 358 00:28:47,978 --> 00:28:50,355 No matter how many miles I put between us, 359 00:28:50,439 --> 00:28:55,152 I am still just that scared,stupid teenager. 360 00:28:57,905 --> 00:28:59,406 I'm no different. 361 00:29:03,952 --> 00:29:06,997 None of us ever left that hallwaywhere Dad died. 362 00:29:09,166 --> 00:29:10,167 Josie. 363 00:29:15,088 --> 00:29:17,341 I've said good-byeto enough people in my life. 364 00:29:17,424 --> 00:29:18,842 I can't do it anymore. 365 00:29:19,426 --> 00:29:20,969 Neither can you. 366 00:29:21,553 --> 00:29:22,804 Stay. 367 00:29:27,017 --> 00:29:28,519 Please. 368 00:29:30,062 --> 00:29:32,064 [crying] 369 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,278 -[knocking]-Yeah. What's up? 370 00:29:38,362 --> 00:29:41,532 That woman you asked me to look into,Shirley Maxwell-- 371 00:29:41,615 --> 00:29:44,826 -Find anything?-Yeah. She was a seamstress by trade. 372 00:29:44,910 --> 00:29:47,663 Took in foster kids from the neighborhood,sort of, unofficially. 373 00:29:47,746 --> 00:29:48,789 Still have a local address? 374 00:29:48,872 --> 00:29:51,667 She died in 1986. Drowned in the bay. 375 00:29:52,292 --> 00:29:55,170 There's a list of children that werein her care at the time of her death. 376 00:29:55,254 --> 00:29:58,465 And, um, one of them was... 377 00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:59,883 Poppy Scoville. 378 00:30:01,802 --> 00:30:03,303 [doorbell rings] 379 00:30:08,433 --> 00:30:10,435 Come in. Come in. 380 00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:11,562 [door closes] 381 00:30:13,397 --> 00:30:15,691 I'd get up to greet you, but... 382 00:30:17,651 --> 00:30:19,653 like I said on the phone, I'm... 383 00:30:22,364 --> 00:30:23,907 I'm dying. [chuckles] 384 00:30:29,788 --> 00:30:31,415 Is that for me? 385 00:30:32,541 --> 00:30:35,043 Of course it is. I know what you like. 386 00:30:50,475 --> 00:30:53,353 I gotta say, I'm surprised you... called. 387 00:30:53,437 --> 00:31:00,068 Addicts make amendsand dying people clean their slates. 388 00:31:08,869 --> 00:31:11,246 Your stuff looks different in here. 389 00:31:11,330 --> 00:31:13,123 Divorce is great for downsizing. 390 00:31:13,207 --> 00:31:15,417 [chuckling] 391 00:31:15,501 --> 00:31:18,045 We used to bethe queens of the neighborhood. 392 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,673 Look at us now. 393 00:31:21,757 --> 00:31:24,468 Yeah. They used to envy us. [laughs] 394 00:31:25,719 --> 00:31:28,055 Too bad we didn't know how good we had it. 395 00:31:29,139 --> 00:31:32,518 I did... until you fucked my husband. 396 00:31:38,690 --> 00:31:39,775 Yeah. 397 00:31:44,071 --> 00:31:46,156 Cancer is truly a monster. 398 00:31:47,115 --> 00:31:51,203 Being sick forces youto confront everything about yourself. 399 00:31:51,286 --> 00:31:52,538 The good, the bad. 400 00:31:52,621 --> 00:31:56,667 Sleeping with Chuckwas definitely the bad. 401 00:31:59,545 --> 00:32:02,047 Doesn't sound like much of an apology. 402 00:32:06,301 --> 00:32:08,720 That's as close as you're gonna get. 403 00:32:12,516 --> 00:32:14,977 I don't know what the hell I'm doing here. 404 00:32:15,060 --> 00:32:20,232 So, good luckwith the rest of your... amends. 405 00:32:20,315 --> 00:32:23,777 You know, it was very purifying for meto face my demons. 406 00:32:23,861 --> 00:32:25,529 You might wanna do it too. 407 00:32:25,612 --> 00:32:28,448 Coming clean, baring your soul. 408 00:32:28,532 --> 00:32:30,242 [Poppy] Answering a few questions. 409 00:32:30,325 --> 00:32:31,535 What the hell? What the hell-- 410 00:32:31,618 --> 00:32:34,705 I know that you lied about my son. 411 00:32:34,788 --> 00:32:37,249 You are the reason he is in prison. 412 00:32:37,332 --> 00:32:39,710 Just tell the goddamn truth! 413 00:32:42,629 --> 00:32:43,630 That's it. 414 00:32:50,762 --> 00:32:52,681 You knew Chuck was abusing Lanie. 415 00:32:52,764 --> 00:32:54,099 -What?-That's motive. 416 00:32:54,808 --> 00:32:56,643 -Who in the world told you that?-Lanie. 417 00:32:56,727 --> 00:32:59,104 She doesn't know what she's talking about. 418 00:32:59,188 --> 00:33:02,691 She's all turned aroundfrom your fucking harassment. 419 00:33:02,774 --> 00:33:03,984 Plus the Antabuse. 420 00:33:04,067 --> 00:33:06,069 You were sober the night of the murder. 421 00:33:06,153 --> 00:33:07,821 That's your alibi blown. 422 00:33:07,905 --> 00:33:10,199 Add in the fact that you were huntingfor the murder weapon, 423 00:33:10,282 --> 00:33:11,700 which you've wielded yourself. 424 00:33:11,783 --> 00:33:13,202 What murder weapon? You got nothing. 425 00:33:13,285 --> 00:33:14,786 Actually, I do. 426 00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:17,497 I know you were in rehaba month before the murder. 427 00:33:17,581 --> 00:33:19,875 See, I think it was toughfor you in there. 428 00:33:19,958 --> 00:33:22,085 Alone and sober with the knowledge 429 00:33:22,169 --> 00:33:24,213 of what your husbandwas doing to your daughter. 430 00:33:24,296 --> 00:33:27,007 Dying over the fact that it all happenedunder your roof 431 00:33:27,090 --> 00:33:28,675 while you were stuck in the bottle. 432 00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:29,676 Fuck you. 433 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,805 I spoke to your sober coach.I know you tried to do the right thing. 434 00:33:34,223 --> 00:33:36,391 I did not kill my husband-- 435 00:33:36,475 --> 00:33:38,268 I know you did it, Erin. 436 00:33:38,352 --> 00:33:42,189 I'm finally putting the pieces togetherand the picture looks bad for you. 437 00:33:42,272 --> 00:33:43,440 But I can help. 438 00:33:43,524 --> 00:33:48,111 All those articles I wrote 19 years agogot him tried as an adult. 439 00:33:48,529 --> 00:33:50,197 My words have power. 440 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,034 Now, do you want that powerwielded against you or to help you? 441 00:33:54,117 --> 00:33:55,452 You're insane. 442 00:33:55,536 --> 00:33:58,163 I'm doing the next episodewith or without you. 443 00:33:58,247 --> 00:34:02,501 But I'm the difference between the worldseeing you as a cold-blooded murderer 444 00:34:02,584 --> 00:34:05,796 or a loving mother who would do anythingto protect her daughter. 445 00:34:10,759 --> 00:34:12,177 All right. 446 00:34:13,929 --> 00:34:15,514 All right. 447 00:34:16,139 --> 00:34:17,933 I'll give you your interview. 448 00:34:18,725 --> 00:34:20,643 But I need some time. 449 00:34:20,726 --> 00:34:22,728 I'll meet you at Susan's tomorrow morning. 450 00:34:24,815 --> 00:34:26,817 [engine starts] 451 00:34:31,655 --> 00:34:32,697 Shit. 452 00:34:49,922 --> 00:34:50,966 Get outta here, man. 453 00:35:02,978 --> 00:35:06,690 CO Hill had somevery interesting information for me. 454 00:35:07,274 --> 00:35:09,318 It seems he gave you a little present. 455 00:35:09,401 --> 00:35:11,778 Told you to wait for orders from Kuvney. 456 00:35:13,071 --> 00:35:16,033 Then Kuvney's the onefound gutted in the corner. 457 00:35:20,245 --> 00:35:22,831 Look, that doesn't prove anything. 458 00:35:22,915 --> 00:35:25,334 I'm not a court. I don't need proof. 459 00:35:27,628 --> 00:35:29,421 [guard] Hey. Hey, hey! 460 00:35:30,214 --> 00:35:32,799 Hill, what are you doing?Get your boys back in. 461 00:35:36,011 --> 00:35:38,180 Hey, horse-fucker. 462 00:35:38,263 --> 00:35:39,264 -What?-[spits] 463 00:35:44,269 --> 00:35:45,479 Come on. 464 00:35:45,562 --> 00:35:48,440 Let's go. Get him in here. Let's go. 465 00:36:08,085 --> 00:36:09,086 Hey, Daddy. 466 00:36:10,504 --> 00:36:11,713 Hey, sweetheart. 467 00:36:14,424 --> 00:36:15,968 Your mother's favorite. 468 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,346 Tulips?I thought daisies were her favorite. 469 00:36:19,429 --> 00:36:21,598 I used to pick themon the way home from school. 470 00:36:22,057 --> 00:36:24,184 That's why she told youthey were her favorite. 471 00:36:25,435 --> 00:36:27,646 Did she ever like them at all? 472 00:36:28,397 --> 00:36:30,274 She liked that you picked them for her. 473 00:36:33,485 --> 00:36:35,195 I'm always surprisedhow much you remember. 474 00:36:35,279 --> 00:36:36,655 You were so little then. 475 00:36:37,531 --> 00:36:39,741 I guess you were storing it all up. 476 00:36:41,076 --> 00:36:43,370 She's been gonelonger than we were together. 477 00:36:44,580 --> 00:36:46,498 I never thought of it that way. 478 00:36:48,166 --> 00:36:50,836 Every time I think I'm forgetting her, 479 00:36:51,253 --> 00:36:54,298 I hear Desiree laugh, and there she is... 480 00:36:55,382 --> 00:36:58,468 or your smile, and I see her. 481 00:36:59,928 --> 00:37:02,848 You know, Cydie doesn't remember her,but she's there too. 482 00:37:06,977 --> 00:37:08,729 That why you asked me up here? 483 00:37:11,148 --> 00:37:12,816 I wanna say no. 484 00:37:15,819 --> 00:37:17,112 Talk to me. 485 00:37:25,329 --> 00:37:26,830 I have CTE. 486 00:37:27,331 --> 00:37:28,665 CTE? 487 00:37:30,834 --> 00:37:32,711 I didn't think the doctors knew. 488 00:37:32,794 --> 00:37:34,379 That's what I told you all. 489 00:37:36,465 --> 00:37:39,843 You knew? When did you find out?Are they sure, Daddy? 490 00:37:39,927 --> 00:37:42,429 Doctors can't know for sureuntil I'm dead. 491 00:37:45,140 --> 00:37:47,559 But with all the boxing,that's what they think. 492 00:37:47,643 --> 00:37:49,978 I haven't told your sisters yetor Lillian. 493 00:37:51,647 --> 00:37:53,982 If it's true what they sayis happening in my head, 494 00:37:54,066 --> 00:37:58,487 I don't know what's gonna happen to meor what I'll be like. 495 00:37:59,154 --> 00:38:00,531 You'll be our father. 496 00:38:06,328 --> 00:38:08,330 When I'm gone and buried up herewith your mother, 497 00:38:08,413 --> 00:38:10,415 -I want you to keep coming back.-Daddy-- 498 00:38:10,499 --> 00:38:12,793 No, not for me or her, but for you. 499 00:38:14,545 --> 00:38:15,838 Come and enjoy this view. 500 00:38:15,921 --> 00:38:21,802 This... big, bad, beautiful citythat made you who you are. 501 00:38:28,851 --> 00:38:31,270 -[rock playing on earbuds]-[knocking] 502 00:38:31,353 --> 00:38:32,354 [Alex] Hey. 503 00:38:33,689 --> 00:38:34,773 Come watch the game with me. 504 00:38:36,733 --> 00:38:37,776 Lanie. 505 00:38:48,412 --> 00:38:50,956 What, are you time traveling to the '90s? 506 00:38:53,041 --> 00:38:54,418 [phone ringing] 507 00:38:58,172 --> 00:39:00,090 -Hello, Erin.-Hi, Alex. Is Lanie there? 508 00:39:00,174 --> 00:39:01,800 Yeah, she's right here. 509 00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:06,847 Yeah, Mom. 510 00:39:06,930 --> 00:39:09,683 Lanie, you told that reporterthat your father was abusing you? 511 00:39:09,766 --> 00:39:12,311 She cornered me at Melanie's. 512 00:39:13,812 --> 00:39:15,397 Wait, why are you at her house? 513 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,773 She set me up. 514 00:39:19,693 --> 00:39:21,403 Okay, listen. Where is it? 515 00:39:21,904 --> 00:39:25,157 It's not in the storage space.It's not in the old home. 516 00:39:25,657 --> 00:39:27,159 I don't know what you're talking about. 517 00:39:30,078 --> 00:39:31,413 You're not gonna tell me. 518 00:39:31,496 --> 00:39:34,374 All right, listen, Lanie. I am done. 519 00:39:34,458 --> 00:39:36,376 I can't take it anymore. 520 00:39:36,460 --> 00:39:39,588 I can't do this anymore.And I am gonna talk. 521 00:39:39,671 --> 00:39:42,633 I'm gonna tell the truth.I'm gonna tell her everything that I know. 522 00:39:42,716 --> 00:39:45,469 And I'm gonna maybe try to fix things,the right way. 523 00:39:45,552 --> 00:39:49,056 Okay. Just stay at Aunt Susan's.I will be right there. 524 00:39:49,139 --> 00:39:50,599 We can talk about this. 525 00:39:51,183 --> 00:39:54,228 [Poppy] Protecting a childis a parent's most basic role. 526 00:39:54,853 --> 00:39:59,816 It's hard to thrive, hard to functionwhen we feel threatened. 527 00:40:00,609 --> 00:40:02,736 -When we don't feel safe.-[Chuck] Come on. I said smile. 528 00:40:02,819 --> 00:40:08,200 And when you're a parent,when you're a caretaker of someone else, 529 00:40:08,283 --> 00:40:11,787 safety is an all-consuming concern. 530 00:40:12,329 --> 00:40:16,458 You were entrustedwith the life of this child. 531 00:40:16,542 --> 00:40:18,335 This loved one. 532 00:40:18,418 --> 00:40:22,172 So, you will do anything and everythingto protect them. 533 00:40:22,256 --> 00:40:25,300 -But how far is too far?-[Lanie] Let me go! 534 00:40:25,384 --> 00:40:29,137 Is it right to harm anotherin defense of your child? 535 00:40:30,222 --> 00:40:34,059 Was Erin Buhrman justifiedin killing her husband 536 00:40:34,142 --> 00:40:36,854 if it meant ending the abuseof her daughter? 537 00:40:36,937 --> 00:40:39,731 Was Chuck Buhrman deserving of death 538 00:40:39,815 --> 00:40:44,027 because he inflicted harmon his own flesh and blood? 539 00:40:48,282 --> 00:40:50,325 [Lanie] We'll do the interview together.Get it over with. 540 00:41:05,757 --> 00:41:06,758 Painkillers? 541 00:41:20,439 --> 00:41:21,815 What am I, 12? 542 00:41:46,298 --> 00:41:47,841 [knocking] 543 00:41:48,967 --> 00:41:49,968 Alex. 544 00:41:50,677 --> 00:41:52,930 Not again. Lanie's not here. 545 00:41:54,097 --> 00:41:55,891 -Do you know when she'll be back?-Don't have a clue. 546 00:41:55,974 --> 00:41:57,809 I really need to talk to her.It's the last time. 547 00:41:57,893 --> 00:41:59,770 Sweetheart, you're supposed to be upstairsgetting ready for bed. 548 00:41:59,853 --> 00:42:01,522 -What are you doing?-Daddy! 549 00:42:01,605 --> 00:42:03,106 -Yes, baby.-Where'd you get that? 550 00:42:06,443 --> 00:42:07,569 From Mommy. 551 00:42:09,363 --> 00:42:10,614 Oh, my God. 552 00:42:13,742 --> 00:42:17,746 [rock ballad playing] 553 00:43:07,171 --> 00:43:09,798 [ballad continues playing] 554 00:43:21,727 --> 00:43:23,228 [Erin] What did you give me? 555 00:43:25,606 --> 00:43:26,607 Rest easy. 556 00:43:28,317 --> 00:43:29,860 Everything's fine. 557 00:43:41,663 --> 00:43:44,291 [ballad continues playing]