1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:01:00,925 --> 00:01:04,864 There's something there that lets you know it's there. 4 00:01:05,963 --> 00:01:08,700 This house, it's really grabbed me. 5 00:01:08,734 --> 00:01:11,303 It's got its hooks sinked into me. 6 00:01:11,704 --> 00:01:14,773 There's a lot of thing that happen in this house that we can't explain. 7 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,909 It's wild just being there. 8 00:01:18,910 --> 00:01:24,751 It has this, you know, this aura about it, a... a... a mystery. 9 00:02:27,412 --> 00:02:30,382 I wanted a simple house, I wanted a A-frame house, 10 00:02:30,416 --> 00:02:33,619 and I wanted a... a loft upstairs with a balcony. 11 00:02:35,119 --> 00:02:38,490 And when we first drove by here, it was just a beautiful meadow. 12 00:02:38,524 --> 00:02:40,559 It was covered with wildflowers. 13 00:02:40,591 --> 00:02:41,893 And it just took my breath away. 14 00:02:41,927 --> 00:02:43,796 And I said, you know, "That's it." 15 00:02:43,828 --> 00:02:46,965 I had the house subcontracted, built like I wanted. 16 00:02:49,635 --> 00:02:50,803 When they started building, 17 00:02:50,835 --> 00:02:53,805 we noticed that there were some strange things happening. 18 00:02:54,906 --> 00:02:56,274 The doors would slam. 19 00:02:56,309 --> 00:02:59,478 I mean nothing else would be blowing around, but the door would slam. 20 00:03:00,512 --> 00:03:03,014 They put the doorbell in and it would ring. 21 00:03:04,048 --> 00:03:06,385 And you'd go to the door, there's nobody there. 22 00:03:09,220 --> 00:03:12,023 I remember deadbolting the door and going upstairs 23 00:03:12,056 --> 00:03:14,693 and as soon as I get upstairs, you know, we heard a bang! 24 00:03:15,226 --> 00:03:18,630 I looked out and the door was open. 25 00:03:18,663 --> 00:03:20,766 But it had the deadbolt still sticking out. 26 00:03:20,798 --> 00:03:23,635 This house had a lot of activity that was unusual 27 00:03:23,668 --> 00:03:24,636 and we knew that. 28 00:03:24,669 --> 00:03:26,571 I made peace with that, I lived with that 29 00:03:26,605 --> 00:03:28,541 until 2011. 30 00:03:33,512 --> 00:03:38,184 At 11:30, I was probably in bed by 12 o' clock. 31 00:03:38,983 --> 00:03:41,520 And it was pitch-black dark in here. 32 00:03:43,155 --> 00:03:44,623 And a light came on 33 00:03:44,655 --> 00:03:46,624 and I opened my eyes and, uh, 34 00:03:46,657 --> 00:03:48,594 there was this... it was light. 35 00:03:48,626 --> 00:03:52,697 It was a patch of total daylight from the ceiling to the floor. 36 00:03:52,731 --> 00:03:55,233 And it was daylight in this tube of light 37 00:03:55,267 --> 00:03:57,970 and it was pitch black in the rest of the room. 38 00:03:59,838 --> 00:04:01,573 I just stared at it. 39 00:04:01,607 --> 00:04:05,077 After about 10 seconds, it just went blink, it went out. 40 00:04:06,244 --> 00:04:07,612 I just covered my head 41 00:04:07,645 --> 00:04:09,047 and I pulled back the covers 42 00:04:09,081 --> 00:04:12,918 and I saw there were like, real bright red buttons of light. 43 00:04:16,622 --> 00:04:18,157 I had a flashlight on the bed 44 00:04:18,190 --> 00:04:19,825 and I shone the flashlight all around the room 45 00:04:19,858 --> 00:04:22,495 and uh, there was nothing unusual. 46 00:04:25,731 --> 00:04:27,199 And I really did feel watched. 47 00:04:27,231 --> 00:04:29,868 I felt a presence, I felt observed. 48 00:04:31,937 --> 00:04:33,439 I didn't know if it was a religious experience, 49 00:04:33,471 --> 00:04:36,709 I didn't know if it was a UFO experience, I didn't know what it was. 50 00:04:36,741 --> 00:04:38,210 It scared me to death. 51 00:04:39,678 --> 00:04:41,247 That was a turning point in my life, 52 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,781 because I decided that I would not stay here 53 00:04:43,815 --> 00:04:45,750 by myself at night. 54 00:04:49,221 --> 00:04:52,291 I never mentioned it to hardly anybody in this town 55 00:04:52,324 --> 00:04:54,159 about the paranormal activity in my house, 56 00:04:54,192 --> 00:04:56,262 because I wasn't sure how they would take it. 57 00:04:56,295 --> 00:04:58,230 It's a... it's a... it's in the Bible Belt 58 00:04:58,262 --> 00:05:00,765 and you know... and you know, I just... I didn't know how they would take it. 59 00:05:03,267 --> 00:05:05,236 Florence is a suburb of Jackson, 60 00:05:05,269 --> 00:05:07,272 the statistical metropolitan area. 61 00:05:08,072 --> 00:05:10,543 This is community that's... that's got good neighbors. 62 00:05:11,142 --> 00:05:13,178 They probably pretty much keep to themselves 63 00:05:13,211 --> 00:05:15,014 and that may be what makes them good neighbors. 64 00:05:16,949 --> 00:05:19,118 I think the people are real nice. 65 00:05:19,151 --> 00:05:21,587 If somebody dies, 66 00:05:21,620 --> 00:05:24,156 uh, everybody comes and brings food 67 00:05:24,188 --> 00:05:28,159 and they go to the cemetery or they go to the funeral halls 68 00:05:28,192 --> 00:05:31,029 or do what they can for you. 69 00:05:31,062 --> 00:05:32,565 We're just country. 70 00:05:33,197 --> 00:05:36,199 Just... just country. 71 00:05:43,075 --> 00:05:45,945 Florence is a great town, but it's a southern town. 72 00:05:45,978 --> 00:05:48,013 Some people are open-minded 73 00:05:48,046 --> 00:05:49,981 and some people are very close-minded. 74 00:05:51,149 --> 00:05:54,620 Florence is very Bible Belt-ish. 75 00:05:54,652 --> 00:05:58,990 Bringing in the paranormal to them is unbelievable. 76 00:05:59,890 --> 00:06:01,359 Do you believe in ghosts? 77 00:06:01,392 --> 00:06:03,061 Uh, believe in what? 78 00:06:04,997 --> 00:06:06,999 No, I don't. 79 00:06:07,865 --> 00:06:11,236 I am a Christian, I do believe in the Holy Spirit. 80 00:06:12,003 --> 00:06:16,241 If y'all... y'all go stay out in empty houses all night, I'll go to bed. 81 00:06:22,981 --> 00:06:24,483 I was all embarrassed, 82 00:06:24,515 --> 00:06:26,184 because I thought, you know, I'm just gonna look like an idiot. 83 00:06:27,418 --> 00:06:30,154 So, I didn't tell anybody until it became known enough 84 00:06:30,187 --> 00:06:32,358 that I knew there were gonna do a little news program on it. 85 00:06:33,190 --> 00:06:35,893 On the outside, it looks like your typical home, 86 00:06:35,926 --> 00:06:38,697 but inside it's anything but normal. 87 00:06:39,063 --> 00:06:42,133 The candle just got up and landed. 88 00:06:42,166 --> 00:06:45,070 It didn't just tipple over and it didn't shoot over, 89 00:06:45,103 --> 00:06:46,973 it just kinda levitated over there. 90 00:06:50,942 --> 00:06:52,811 After that news segment, 91 00:06:52,844 --> 00:06:56,081 that just kinda validated to me that it was okay to express it, 92 00:06:56,113 --> 00:06:58,017 because I just kept it inside, I didn't tell a lot of people. 93 00:06:58,050 --> 00:06:59,218 But once it was documented, 94 00:06:59,250 --> 00:07:01,654 I felt perfectly free then to talk about it. 95 00:07:01,687 --> 00:07:03,422 And it was really a big moment. 96 00:07:03,454 --> 00:07:05,056 That kinda made it real for me. 97 00:07:05,089 --> 00:07:09,060 I think that's when it... that's when I started being really open to really... 98 00:07:09,094 --> 00:07:11,096 I was trying to find somebody who could... 99 00:07:11,128 --> 00:07:12,864 or maybe come up with some explanation. 100 00:07:17,969 --> 00:07:20,171 I started talking to a friend ofmine at work 101 00:07:20,204 --> 00:07:22,974 and she said she knew a young investigator 102 00:07:23,007 --> 00:07:25,745 named John Bullard who might be interested. 103 00:07:35,252 --> 00:07:36,954 My name's John Bullard. 104 00:07:36,988 --> 00:07:38,389 I'm a marketing director 105 00:07:38,423 --> 00:07:40,425 for about 40 different restaurants. 106 00:07:41,827 --> 00:07:43,928 What got me into the paranormal is 107 00:07:43,962 --> 00:07:46,130 ever since I was a little child, 108 00:07:46,163 --> 00:07:48,800 I would see shadow figures, I would hear voices. 109 00:07:50,067 --> 00:07:52,003 I didn't know if I was crazy or not 110 00:07:52,036 --> 00:07:54,106 and I wanted to validate it for myself. 111 00:07:54,772 --> 00:07:56,374 Uh, I didn't want to validate it for anybody else, 112 00:07:56,408 --> 00:07:58,143 I just wanted to figure out that I wasn't crazy. 113 00:07:58,175 --> 00:07:59,176 And I started doing research 114 00:07:59,211 --> 00:08:01,880 about the supernatural and the paranormal. 115 00:08:01,913 --> 00:08:07,386 And I kinda, you know, over time wanted to test the waters, 116 00:08:07,418 --> 00:08:10,389 so I went to supposedly haunted places to test the waters, 117 00:08:10,421 --> 00:08:12,190 to see if I could actually capture something, 118 00:08:12,224 --> 00:08:13,892 if I could feel something 119 00:08:13,925 --> 00:08:16,995 or sense something that I sensed when I was child. 120 00:08:17,027 --> 00:08:20,398 We accidentally caught an incredible spirit voice EVP, 121 00:08:20,432 --> 00:08:23,335 electronic voice phenomenon and that kinda changed me. 122 00:08:24,935 --> 00:08:27,406 What is that white out near the woods, you see that? 123 00:08:29,274 --> 00:08:30,976 It is in the woods, you see it now? 124 00:08:31,009 --> 00:08:33,878 Oh, no, no, no, shine closer to it, shine. 125 00:08:34,378 --> 00:08:35,613 In here. 126 00:08:35,647 --> 00:08:38,283 - What the fuck was that? - What was that? What? 127 00:08:38,849 --> 00:08:40,485 Did you say-that place said "in here?" 128 00:08:41,319 --> 00:08:42,286 No. 129 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,156 Did y'all not... you didn't hear that? 130 00:08:44,189 --> 00:08:45,825 No, I'm sorry. 131 00:08:46,291 --> 00:08:47,526 In here. 132 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,428 There... there, did you hear anybody say, "in here?" 133 00:08:50,094 --> 00:08:51,363 Did someone just say "in here?" 134 00:08:51,396 --> 00:08:52,363 Did you hear that? 135 00:08:52,397 --> 00:08:54,299 - Uh, I heard something. - John. 136 00:08:54,331 --> 00:08:56,267 - I'm not fucking kidding. - I'm sorry. 137 00:08:56,300 --> 00:09:00,004 Well, my biggest goal that I set in my mind was 138 00:09:00,037 --> 00:09:02,106 to document evidence 139 00:09:02,140 --> 00:09:05,077 that was clean, clear, and easy to view. 140 00:09:12,416 --> 00:09:14,219 Did somebody just make that noise? 141 00:09:16,555 --> 00:09:19,291 I was referred to the Mississippi house 142 00:09:19,324 --> 00:09:21,227 by a friend of a friend. 143 00:09:22,127 --> 00:09:23,362 When we pull up to the house, 144 00:09:23,395 --> 00:09:25,531 you would never think there was anything really going on 145 00:09:25,564 --> 00:09:26,966 inside the house. 146 00:09:27,364 --> 00:09:29,033 So, we were really skeptical, 147 00:09:29,066 --> 00:09:30,835 but we figured we'd hear her out. 148 00:09:31,335 --> 00:09:33,437 Alice told us about the lights 149 00:09:33,470 --> 00:09:35,541 that she experienced in the bottom bedroom 150 00:09:35,574 --> 00:09:38,777 and some other sounds that she'd heard in the house. 151 00:09:40,110 --> 00:09:44,081 And just from the pre-investigation that we did, 152 00:09:44,114 --> 00:09:46,084 it really started to intrigue me. 153 00:09:47,051 --> 00:09:48,521 Things moved. 154 00:09:51,289 --> 00:09:52,958 Lights that have turned off. 155 00:09:53,458 --> 00:09:55,060 It's something different 156 00:09:55,093 --> 00:09:56,495 than just a paranormal investigation. 157 00:09:58,128 --> 00:09:59,998 We have done about nine years, 158 00:10:00,031 --> 00:10:03,301 it's the longest location that we have ever done consistently. 159 00:10:04,469 --> 00:10:06,037 We have a DVR system 160 00:10:06,070 --> 00:10:08,105 that is filming the house 24 hours a day, 161 00:10:08,138 --> 00:10:09,307 they try to capture something else. 162 00:10:10,876 --> 00:10:12,578 There's definitely something else out there, 163 00:10:12,610 --> 00:10:15,546 whether it's a uh, you know, another world 164 00:10:15,579 --> 00:10:17,583 or something that we're tapping into. 165 00:10:18,916 --> 00:10:20,886 Uh, it's up... it's up for debate. 166 00:10:28,959 --> 00:10:32,363 I have something very special for you today. 167 00:10:32,397 --> 00:10:34,233 We have Brad Cooney. 168 00:10:34,266 --> 00:10:37,035 Brad is part of the Mississippi house 169 00:10:37,068 --> 00:10:39,638 and it is very well-documented 170 00:10:39,671 --> 00:10:42,273 as a place that is haunted. 171 00:10:42,306 --> 00:10:44,877 So, tell me a little bit about the house. 172 00:10:44,910 --> 00:10:46,879 Just about everybody who we bring in there, 173 00:10:46,911 --> 00:10:47,812 it just... it creeps 'em out. 174 00:10:47,847 --> 00:10:49,381 There's a different energy in there 175 00:10:49,414 --> 00:10:51,516 like you... you mentioned in your opening. 176 00:10:51,549 --> 00:10:53,285 It's very well-documented, 177 00:10:53,318 --> 00:10:55,221 the evidence captured is amazing. 178 00:11:02,227 --> 00:11:03,228 Good? 179 00:11:04,963 --> 00:11:06,365 Will you get that close cobwebs out? 180 00:11:06,397 --> 00:11:07,432 You see I'm not home so much, 181 00:11:07,465 --> 00:11:08,700 I didn't realize all those cobwebs are back there. 182 00:11:08,733 --> 00:11:11,336 This is really out of my comfort zone, this whole thing. 183 00:11:12,270 --> 00:11:15,207 So, I've lived here uh, 12 years. 184 00:11:15,674 --> 00:11:20,078 12 years now and this is where I do all my... my podcasts 185 00:11:20,110 --> 00:11:23,581 and throughout my boxing journalistic career 186 00:11:23,614 --> 00:11:27,151 I've accrued quite a few things in the boxing world 187 00:11:27,185 --> 00:11:30,890 writing for magazines and writing for boxing websites. 188 00:11:32,357 --> 00:11:35,493 I've... I've met just about everybody there is 189 00:11:35,526 --> 00:11:37,329 that's anybody in the boxing world. 190 00:11:37,362 --> 00:11:40,632 h, Mike Tyson, Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather. 191 00:11:40,665 --> 00:11:44,269 I don't go to the fights anymore though, I don't cover it, I did it for a lot of years. 192 00:11:44,301 --> 00:11:46,305 It was just time to start another chapter. 193 00:11:48,305 --> 00:11:50,108 I got into the paranormal 194 00:11:50,141 --> 00:11:52,276 uh, in... in... in... standing in this very room, 195 00:11:52,310 --> 00:11:53,612 watched TV one day 196 00:11:53,645 --> 00:11:56,381 and a segment that a local news broadcaster 197 00:11:56,414 --> 00:11:59,151 did on Miss Alice's house caught my attention. 198 00:11:59,550 --> 00:12:02,421 I stopped what I was doing, I started watching it 199 00:12:02,454 --> 00:12:04,055 and realized it was really close, 200 00:12:04,089 --> 00:12:09,094 so I reached out to that homeowner and her friend that was also on that segment. 201 00:12:09,127 --> 00:12:10,195 'Cause it was really interesting to me, 202 00:12:10,228 --> 00:12:11,597 especially how close it was. 203 00:12:12,998 --> 00:12:14,366 It was like wow, usually you hear something's haunted or whatever 204 00:12:14,398 --> 00:12:15,566 or whatever it might be 205 00:12:15,599 --> 00:12:18,670 it's a long drive, but this was so close to where I live. 206 00:12:18,703 --> 00:12:21,740 So, I would be interested and it would be really interesting for me 207 00:12:21,772 --> 00:12:23,474 to uh, to see if they'll have me in there 208 00:12:23,507 --> 00:12:24,408 and take a look around. 209 00:12:24,441 --> 00:12:25,542 So that's all, 210 00:12:25,576 --> 00:12:27,111 that's how I started getting into the paranormal. 211 00:12:27,145 --> 00:12:28,246 And it just took off from there. 212 00:12:32,249 --> 00:12:35,486 I met Alice and when she told me her story, 213 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,357 I believed her, instantly. 214 00:12:38,390 --> 00:12:40,525 In fact, the first day I came here, 215 00:12:40,557 --> 00:12:42,660 we had... we had some activity happen in the house 216 00:12:42,694 --> 00:12:46,365 which really piqued my interest up at that point. 217 00:12:46,397 --> 00:12:47,699 - Actually, they said - You see that? 218 00:12:47,732 --> 00:12:48,967 It was coming towards the stairs and it went... 219 00:12:48,999 --> 00:12:52,503 - out the door... ooh, ooh, ooh. - Look at that there. 220 00:12:52,536 --> 00:12:54,572 The next week I came back again, 221 00:12:54,605 --> 00:12:56,741 I captured some more evidence 222 00:12:56,775 --> 00:12:59,344 um, that I felt I couldn't explain. 223 00:12:59,377 --> 00:13:01,512 And it... it just blossomed from there. 224 00:13:01,546 --> 00:13:04,181 We had major equipment failure, 225 00:13:04,214 --> 00:13:08,320 because of spirit activity all up in this sucker. 226 00:13:08,353 --> 00:13:10,555 But this is a REM pod that's going nuts. 227 00:13:11,256 --> 00:13:13,658 I learned some of the stuff through research, 228 00:13:13,690 --> 00:13:15,726 trying things. 229 00:13:15,759 --> 00:13:19,563 Then I got to where I would buy some equipment. 230 00:13:19,597 --> 00:13:22,368 It's... it's kind of how I learned how to investigate. 231 00:13:25,402 --> 00:13:27,471 Brad Cooney came along a few years ago 232 00:13:27,504 --> 00:13:30,375 and really helped out to what we were doing in the Mississippi house. 233 00:13:31,709 --> 00:13:34,146 It's good to get two investigators who are separate, 234 00:13:34,179 --> 00:13:35,714 who originally never knew each other, 235 00:13:35,747 --> 00:13:39,017 who'd come together and are experiencing the same things in the house. 236 00:13:40,350 --> 00:13:41,518 This is my... 237 00:13:41,551 --> 00:13:44,322 I'm beginning my third year investigating this house. 238 00:13:45,089 --> 00:13:47,459 Once I think I figured something out, 239 00:13:47,492 --> 00:13:48,794 something else happens. 240 00:13:48,826 --> 00:13:50,796 Some things I've debunked in... in the home, 241 00:13:50,829 --> 00:13:52,697 but many things I... I can't debunk 242 00:13:52,729 --> 00:13:56,567 and that in itself is... is why I keep doing this. 243 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,037 Because there's things that happen here that I just simply... 244 00:13:59,503 --> 00:14:01,672 I can't figure out why it's happening. 245 00:14:21,758 --> 00:14:24,495 Wait, that's gotta be somebody. 246 00:14:42,479 --> 00:14:45,084 Ask for somebody that... ask if anyone's in there? 247 00:15:08,940 --> 00:15:10,776 Man. 248 00:15:12,377 --> 00:15:15,447 That might've been the most profound noises we've ever heard in here. 249 00:15:16,314 --> 00:15:17,549 Wow. 250 00:15:20,350 --> 00:15:21,719 During our investigations, 251 00:15:21,752 --> 00:15:23,555 we've heard voices in this house. 252 00:15:24,421 --> 00:15:25,724 Doors open. 253 00:15:42,974 --> 00:15:45,243 We've seen light shut off. 254 00:15:47,778 --> 00:15:49,680 So, we would start asking, 255 00:15:51,382 --> 00:15:53,218 you shut that light off again?" 256 00:15:53,251 --> 00:15:55,687 And we've actually gotten direct responses 257 00:15:55,719 --> 00:15:56,888 to where the light would shut off. 258 00:15:58,022 --> 00:16:00,258 Can you make any noise or do something for us 259 00:16:00,925 --> 00:16:03,362 that will tell us that we're not alone in here? 260 00:16:20,478 --> 00:16:21,780 Which one in here? 261 00:16:21,813 --> 00:16:23,715 He said the black 262 00:16:23,748 --> 00:16:24,950 Is this? Oh! 263 00:16:24,983 --> 00:16:26,785 Oh my God, will you look at 264 00:16:26,818 --> 00:16:27,719 And it's on camera. 265 00:16:28,719 --> 00:16:30,656 The chandelier just shut off by itself. 266 00:16:31,355 --> 00:16:33,257 We believe it's possible that 267 00:16:34,325 --> 00:16:36,695 spirit activity, spirits that hear us 268 00:16:36,728 --> 00:16:38,363 are communicating with us. 269 00:16:38,863 --> 00:16:43,334 And we try to, get as much as we can for possibly a breakthrough. 270 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,272 So, I do feel like we are teaching the spirits to communicate with us. 271 00:16:47,305 --> 00:16:48,974 I feel like we are teaching the dead 272 00:16:49,007 --> 00:16:51,977 inside the house of Mississippi how to communicate with us. 273 00:16:55,647 --> 00:16:57,215 Please. 274 00:17:00,550 --> 00:17:02,653 I feel your static-charged energy, 275 00:17:02,686 --> 00:17:04,455 turn it up for me, please. 276 00:17:06,824 --> 00:17:08,325 There we go. 277 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,596 - There we go! - There we go. 278 00:17:11,929 --> 00:17:14,565 We use a lot of trigger objects inside the house. 279 00:17:15,033 --> 00:17:17,636 We started putting a baseball or two baseballs 280 00:17:17,669 --> 00:17:19,571 on the staircase in the Mississippi house. 281 00:17:20,071 --> 00:17:22,274 And for a while we set 'em up there 282 00:17:22,306 --> 00:17:24,608 and obviously, we tried to communicate to the spirits 283 00:17:24,642 --> 00:17:26,478 that we wanted them to move the baseball, 284 00:17:26,510 --> 00:17:28,345 to roll it down the stairs. 285 00:17:28,380 --> 00:17:32,818 We want nothing more than to hear the baseball bounce down those stairs and hit the floor. 286 00:17:34,584 --> 00:17:37,788 That baseball sat idle for days. 287 00:17:40,892 --> 00:17:44,828 But then one day just decided to up and move, 288 00:17:44,862 --> 00:17:46,698 and fall down the steps by itself. 289 00:18:13,357 --> 00:18:15,559 Since then it's happened several times. 290 00:18:23,133 --> 00:18:25,903 What the hell's going on in this house? 291 00:18:25,937 --> 00:18:28,973 Why do things move that aren't supposed to move? 292 00:18:29,006 --> 00:18:30,409 Things defy physics. 293 00:18:31,042 --> 00:18:32,477 I want answers. 294 00:18:34,778 --> 00:18:36,480 What happens when we die? 295 00:18:36,514 --> 00:18:39,084 Is there a... does our... do we retain our consciousness when we cross over and... 296 00:18:39,116 --> 00:18:41,920 and this is what we're hearing and seeing in... in this house. 297 00:18:44,122 --> 00:18:46,425 The ball moving has intrigued me the most. 298 00:18:48,125 --> 00:18:51,429 That's something' that I'm really hungry to find out why. 299 00:18:51,461 --> 00:18:53,397 Why is that ball moving? 300 00:18:53,430 --> 00:18:55,132 Is there something' behind it? 301 00:18:55,165 --> 00:18:57,534 Why? I have no idea why this is happening. 302 00:18:57,567 --> 00:18:59,671 Let's bring in somebody who might, 303 00:18:59,703 --> 00:19:01,072 I think that's very, very important. 304 00:19:11,516 --> 00:19:12,918 Let's see what we got. 305 00:19:14,619 --> 00:19:16,621 What this does, it holds a level point, 306 00:19:16,653 --> 00:19:18,022 this is what we're gonna shoot from. 307 00:19:24,895 --> 00:19:26,130 Zero. 308 00:19:33,537 --> 00:19:35,406 Side to side, it's level. 309 00:19:45,216 --> 00:19:48,053 There might be a little slope up here, but... 310 00:19:49,053 --> 00:19:50,220 Where? Up there, yeah. 311 00:19:50,254 --> 00:19:53,458 I couldn't see why it would roll down there. Okay. 312 00:19:55,793 --> 00:19:57,594 I am happy to know the... the slope, 313 00:19:57,628 --> 00:19:59,631 because we do have our doors open and close. 314 00:19:59,663 --> 00:20:02,666 And uh, so it's not from, you know, 'cause somebody might say, 315 00:20:02,700 --> 00:20:04,168 "Oh, it's 'cause your house is not level." No. 316 00:20:04,201 --> 00:20:06,837 Or if the ball rolls, "Maybe it's 'cause your house is not level." No. 317 00:20:07,537 --> 00:20:10,508 No, but what's crazy is your house has been level since... 318 00:20:11,174 --> 00:20:12,976 - Since a long time ago. - '06. 319 00:20:13,009 --> 00:20:14,511 - '06, uh-huh. - Yeah, 320 00:20:14,545 --> 00:20:15,747 the measurements are still the same. 321 00:20:15,779 --> 00:20:16,847 Yeah. 322 00:20:16,881 --> 00:20:18,850 I hope that by bringing experts in 323 00:20:18,882 --> 00:20:21,719 that there will be some discoveries made 324 00:20:21,751 --> 00:20:24,188 that will be important to us all. 325 00:20:26,824 --> 00:20:31,496 How can objects move that have no apparent energy source? 326 00:20:31,895 --> 00:20:33,864 There's obviously an answer, but we don't know it. 327 00:20:35,232 --> 00:20:38,168 There's some sort of convergence of energy here 328 00:20:38,201 --> 00:20:39,603 that we can't explain. 329 00:21:16,606 --> 00:21:19,643 So, in my opinion all that's working fine 330 00:21:19,677 --> 00:21:21,913 to the chandelier and these lights. 331 00:21:22,712 --> 00:21:24,081 And I checked the breaker, 332 00:21:24,114 --> 00:21:28,152 the breaker's shutting it off and good voltage there. 333 00:21:29,253 --> 00:21:32,190 This dimmer here, it works fine. 334 00:21:32,222 --> 00:21:35,559 Uh, sometimes the dimmers would go bad 335 00:21:35,593 --> 00:21:38,930 and make it, you know, go dimmer. 336 00:21:38,962 --> 00:21:41,699 But that seems to be working fine. 337 00:21:41,731 --> 00:21:44,068 At this time, I'm not finding anything wrong with it. 338 00:21:45,036 --> 00:21:50,609 So, I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary. 339 00:21:51,075 --> 00:21:52,977 I would... I mean I would've liked to have seen it 340 00:21:53,009 --> 00:21:55,646 doing what it would, y'all said it did though. 341 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:56,815 That would be interesting to me. 342 00:21:56,847 --> 00:21:59,984 I think electricals' fine, there's nothing wrong with it. 343 00:22:00,985 --> 00:22:03,755 I think you... you're looking at something else. 344 00:22:09,059 --> 00:22:11,796 So, when you stopped, after the lights happened, 345 00:22:11,828 --> 00:22:13,764 you decided, "I'm not gonna stay here anymore." 346 00:22:15,098 --> 00:22:17,067 Did you think about it when you weren't here? 347 00:22:17,101 --> 00:22:19,070 The first few nights you didn't stay at the house, 348 00:22:19,103 --> 00:22:21,171 were you kinda wondering what was going on? 349 00:22:21,205 --> 00:22:22,574 Did you think about coming back 350 00:22:22,606 --> 00:22:23,941 and trying to stay at the house again? 351 00:22:23,975 --> 00:22:25,577 - Or after you made the decision - No. 352 00:22:25,610 --> 00:22:26,811 That was it? 353 00:22:26,844 --> 00:22:28,813 No, that was... that was clear cut. 354 00:22:28,845 --> 00:22:30,781 I'm outta there. Yeah. 355 00:22:30,815 --> 00:22:34,251 Because... because I thought nobody could help me. 356 00:22:34,285 --> 00:22:36,321 I mean, if you're here and something', 357 00:22:36,353 --> 00:22:38,890 if there's an intelligence that's greater than you 358 00:22:38,922 --> 00:22:40,724 and they have these abilities that are greater than you, 359 00:22:40,757 --> 00:22:42,059 you know you're gone and nobody... 360 00:22:42,093 --> 00:22:43,161 nobody's gonna be able to help. 361 00:22:43,193 --> 00:22:46,730 No, but I mean you could tell the... the real fear, 362 00:22:46,764 --> 00:22:48,498 because again you know 363 00:22:48,533 --> 00:22:51,836 It's one of those things you don't talk a lot about, you know especially in the South. 364 00:22:51,869 --> 00:22:53,237 But when it gets to the point 365 00:22:53,269 --> 00:22:54,939 where you wanna reach out to somebody, 366 00:22:54,971 --> 00:22:56,007 which I'm glad you did 367 00:22:57,274 --> 00:23:00,712 Uh, because we uncovered a whole mountain of stuff, you know. 368 00:23:00,745 --> 00:23:04,916 I think there's times that we could push ourselves. 369 00:23:04,949 --> 00:23:07,118 But this house sometimes is so intense 370 00:23:07,151 --> 00:23:08,686 I have to back away. 371 00:23:08,719 --> 00:23:10,622 There's only so much I can take, you know? 372 00:23:10,654 --> 00:23:14,024 I... I... I have a passion for this field, documentation, but 373 00:23:14,057 --> 00:23:16,960 this house will push you to uh, a whole another limit. 374 00:23:16,994 --> 00:23:19,130 Well, you brought up a great point about... 375 00:23:19,162 --> 00:23:21,632 'cause people have asked you and me also, 376 00:23:21,665 --> 00:23:24,301 "Why would you be scared if you've been there so many times?" 377 00:23:24,334 --> 00:23:27,872 It's because we've experienced what this house can do. 378 00:23:27,904 --> 00:23:30,340 And when you're in this house by yourself, when it's dark, l 379 00:23:30,373 --> 00:23:32,142 ights are off, door's locked... 380 00:23:32,176 --> 00:23:34,112 - Yep. - It's a different ballgame. 381 00:23:34,144 --> 00:23:37,114 Well, it's interesting that you know, it took the lights 382 00:23:37,148 --> 00:23:39,317 to be the tipping point for you to reach out 383 00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:42,120 and actually express it and start getting people in here to help you. 384 00:23:42,152 --> 00:23:43,854 I mean, maybe somebody else has experienced that, 385 00:23:43,888 --> 00:23:46,324 maybe somebody else understands what it might be. 386 00:24:21,991 --> 00:24:23,427 So, I was invited by Alice 387 00:24:23,460 --> 00:24:25,796 to come and investigate her house. 388 00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:27,799 At first, I was a little hesitant, 389 00:24:27,832 --> 00:24:29,100 but I talked to her on the phone 390 00:24:29,132 --> 00:24:31,902 and something really is troubling her. 391 00:24:31,936 --> 00:24:34,739 You know, I could just tell how sincere she was 392 00:24:34,771 --> 00:24:37,107 and how much this house scared her. 393 00:24:37,141 --> 00:24:39,310 I mean, the fact that it's been 10 years 394 00:24:39,343 --> 00:24:41,144 and she hasn't slept in the house. 395 00:24:41,178 --> 00:24:44,282 And the fact that she's opened it up to other people 396 00:24:44,315 --> 00:24:46,851 trying to figure out what is happening here. 397 00:24:46,883 --> 00:24:50,153 And they showed me a lot of things that I couldn't explain. 398 00:24:50,187 --> 00:24:52,423 There may be something paranormal happening, 399 00:24:52,456 --> 00:24:55,126 but it could be anything, you know? 400 00:24:55,159 --> 00:24:56,928 But I wanna start checking things off. 401 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:57,961 "Okay, no, it's not this." 402 00:24:57,996 --> 00:25:00,931 And I wanna help them get to the bottom of it. 403 00:25:18,949 --> 00:25:21,017 - Hi, Alice. - How are you doing? 404 00:25:21,051 --> 00:25:22,252 - How are you? - Good. 405 00:25:22,286 --> 00:25:24,389 - It's nice to see you. - Aww, it's good to see you. 406 00:25:24,955 --> 00:25:26,424 - Thank you. - It really is. 407 00:25:26,457 --> 00:25:28,526 Uh, I have some uh, people here and 408 00:25:28,558 --> 00:25:29,893 - Hey, y'all. - ...we're ready to do this. 409 00:25:35,999 --> 00:25:37,969 John and Brad realized 410 00:25:38,001 --> 00:25:40,938 that they've sort of done about all that they can. 411 00:25:41,838 --> 00:25:46,777 Now it's time to step in and bring it to the next level. 412 00:25:48,879 --> 00:25:52,083 It's time to bring in some... some other people. 413 00:25:53,150 --> 00:25:55,553 I got all of these different experts 414 00:25:55,585 --> 00:25:58,021 to come together and get answers. 415 00:26:19,276 --> 00:26:20,443 Millions of years ago, 416 00:26:20,477 --> 00:26:23,046 when the dinosaurs walked the Earth, 417 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,483 this area was actually the bottom of the shallow sea. 418 00:26:27,183 --> 00:26:29,987 If you find a dinosaur bone in Mississippi, 419 00:26:30,019 --> 00:26:32,155 it's not gonna be a land-based dinosaur. 420 00:26:32,189 --> 00:26:35,125 In fact, it's a huge prehistoric whale 421 00:26:35,159 --> 00:26:37,061 in the Mississippi science museum. 422 00:26:37,961 --> 00:26:40,931 All this life settles to the bottom 423 00:26:40,965 --> 00:26:43,568 and over the eons becomes limestone. 424 00:26:44,901 --> 00:26:49,407 Florence was an early area of mining for this limestone. 425 00:26:53,177 --> 00:26:55,279 The house is not an 1800s house, 426 00:26:55,312 --> 00:26:57,115 the house was built in the '90s. 427 00:26:58,548 --> 00:27:01,318 And even at the construction of the house, 428 00:27:01,352 --> 00:27:03,353 she already had experiences going on. 429 00:27:04,020 --> 00:27:07,023 To me, I would assume that something' associated with the land 430 00:27:07,056 --> 00:27:08,593 and not necessarily the house. 431 00:27:30,113 --> 00:27:33,150 I'm Qilin Dai from Jackson State University, 432 00:27:33,182 --> 00:27:35,452 assistant professor of physics. 433 00:27:35,486 --> 00:27:39,055 There is a theory out there that limestone 434 00:27:39,088 --> 00:27:42,526 ...can perhaps retain energy and release it. 435 00:27:43,928 --> 00:27:46,898 Uh, would that be something that's possible in your opinion? 436 00:27:46,930 --> 00:27:48,399 I think it's very possible. 437 00:27:48,431 --> 00:27:51,168 Limestone and mineral... other minerals, 438 00:27:52,199 --> 00:27:53,304 they can absorb energy. 439 00:27:54,037 --> 00:27:56,239 The simplest way for a lime or rock 440 00:27:56,273 --> 00:27:58,376 to absorb energy is the heat, 441 00:27:58,409 --> 00:27:59,911 so they can be heated, 442 00:27:59,943 --> 00:28:03,113 so then they have this energy, thermo energy. 443 00:28:03,146 --> 00:28:05,181 And then they can deliver this energy, 444 00:28:05,215 --> 00:28:07,385 so energy can be transported through them. 445 00:28:08,052 --> 00:28:09,554 Do you think that... 446 00:28:10,453 --> 00:28:14,024 anything like underground water 447 00:28:14,057 --> 00:28:18,461 or moving water could create a static charge? 448 00:28:18,495 --> 00:28:20,164 Is that even a possibility? 449 00:28:20,197 --> 00:28:22,300 With water underground the earth 450 00:28:22,333 --> 00:28:23,968 cannot create any charges. 451 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,238 Maybe because of lighting something from nature, 452 00:28:28,271 --> 00:28:30,006 it can be charged, 453 00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:32,509 but they cannot create new charges. 454 00:28:32,543 --> 00:28:34,011 So, this is law. 455 00:28:34,044 --> 00:28:37,180 Okay. As you can see here, 456 00:28:37,213 --> 00:28:40,150 and this is a... a ball here and um 457 00:28:40,584 --> 00:28:42,585 - and... - Where is the ball? 458 00:28:42,619 --> 00:28:44,055 See that little circle right there? 459 00:28:44,087 --> 00:28:45,288 - Oh, I see it, I see it. - Yeah. 460 00:28:45,322 --> 00:28:47,491 And what happens a lot of the time 461 00:28:47,524 --> 00:28:50,026 is it will propel forward 462 00:28:50,059 --> 00:28:55,299 and just start to fall down the stairs. 463 00:28:55,699 --> 00:28:58,102 And, in your opinion, 464 00:28:59,169 --> 00:29:03,074 would it be possible that energy could do that? 465 00:29:03,106 --> 00:29:04,174 It's not earthquake? 466 00:29:05,241 --> 00:29:06,978 That was my first thought. It was 467 00:29:07,010 --> 00:29:08,178 Yeah, it's a 468 00:29:09,645 --> 00:29:11,147 Michael Dennin, 469 00:29:11,180 --> 00:29:13,484 I am the Vice Provost for teaching and learning here at UC Irvine. 470 00:29:17,086 --> 00:29:19,489 So, it's really interesting footage like this 471 00:29:19,523 --> 00:29:21,025 where you have like a ball. 472 00:29:21,057 --> 00:29:22,593 In this case, there's a ball in the stairs 473 00:29:22,625 --> 00:29:24,527 and then it suddenly moves and rolls down the stairs. 474 00:29:24,561 --> 00:29:25,730 First of all, it's a ball, 475 00:29:25,763 --> 00:29:28,165 so that's kind of makes it a little easier, 476 00:29:28,198 --> 00:29:29,533 'cause those do roll. 477 00:29:29,565 --> 00:29:32,135 Um, the challenge is figuring out 478 00:29:32,169 --> 00:29:34,104 what would've kicked or got the ball rolling. 479 00:29:34,805 --> 00:29:37,475 The dramatic part is simply that the ball starts it all. 480 00:29:37,507 --> 00:29:39,677 Being on stairs, once it gets going, 481 00:29:39,709 --> 00:29:41,144 it's gonna fall down the stairs 482 00:29:41,178 --> 00:29:43,381 and that part is pretty straightforward. 483 00:29:43,413 --> 00:29:45,482 This is a bit of a challenge. 484 00:29:45,516 --> 00:29:48,052 You can't deny that the ball moved. 485 00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:51,689 I can speculate, I can say things like, 486 00:29:51,721 --> 00:29:53,656 "There's a little bit of shaking in the house." 487 00:29:53,690 --> 00:29:55,593 Some wind you didn't notice. 488 00:29:55,625 --> 00:29:58,128 Which is harder to believe, 'cause winds hardly move a ball. 489 00:29:58,161 --> 00:30:00,564 There's a lot of ways I can imagine if I wanted to fool you, 490 00:30:00,596 --> 00:30:02,599 I could certainly set up ways 491 00:30:02,632 --> 00:30:04,267 that a ball would move with nobody home. 492 00:30:04,301 --> 00:30:08,406 If the ball is made of iron and then they have the uh... 493 00:30:08,439 --> 00:30:10,041 - Magnet. - Magnet. 494 00:30:10,074 --> 00:30:13,110 To attract or you know, repel that... 495 00:30:13,142 --> 00:30:16,279 - that is come different story for this. - I see. 496 00:30:16,313 --> 00:30:17,715 So, you think if the... 497 00:30:17,748 --> 00:30:21,052 maybe it's more trickery than 498 00:30:21,084 --> 00:30:22,019 Yeah. 499 00:30:33,396 --> 00:30:35,399 I bet air will do a little bit. 500 00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:38,669 There's no breeze 501 00:30:38,701 --> 00:30:41,238 coming through this house that's this powerful? 502 00:30:41,270 --> 00:30:42,205 No. 503 00:30:49,212 --> 00:30:51,514 A ball can move by itself 504 00:30:51,547 --> 00:30:55,251 maybe we could not see the uh, force, 505 00:30:55,285 --> 00:30:56,786 for example like air. 506 00:30:56,819 --> 00:31:00,090 We cannot see the air, but we can prove there are air there. 507 00:31:00,123 --> 00:31:01,624 We could not see the motion, 508 00:31:01,658 --> 00:31:04,628 but we can see the results, we can see it's moving. 509 00:31:04,661 --> 00:31:07,198 As a scientist, I don't believe ghosts at all. 510 00:31:07,698 --> 00:31:08,833 I believe science. 511 00:31:12,268 --> 00:31:15,573 Without it being a complete hoax, 512 00:31:15,605 --> 00:31:17,740 how would you explain something like this? 513 00:31:17,774 --> 00:31:21,712 I know ultimately the end result is a physics action, 514 00:31:21,745 --> 00:31:24,515 like the ball starts moving, 515 00:31:24,547 --> 00:31:28,384 so the immediate cause of that also has to be a physics action. 516 00:31:28,418 --> 00:31:30,221 I... I do think it... 517 00:31:30,254 --> 00:31:35,392 it's not air, it's not wind, uh, it's certainly not magnet. 518 00:31:35,424 --> 00:31:38,328 I... I think we could check under the stairs maybe. 519 00:31:45,768 --> 00:31:47,337 There's no holes here. 520 00:31:52,276 --> 00:31:53,544 Do you wanna see what happens 521 00:31:53,576 --> 00:31:56,412 if I give it a bit of punch up here? 522 00:31:56,446 --> 00:31:58,482 - Yeah. - See if the ball moves maybe. 523 00:31:58,515 --> 00:31:59,684 Go ahead. 524 00:32:07,790 --> 00:32:09,159 Anything? 525 00:32:09,192 --> 00:32:11,161 Nothing, it's not even moving. 526 00:32:11,194 --> 00:32:13,196 If you really were there, 527 00:32:13,229 --> 00:32:16,733 I guess rule out what I would call, "the trivial physical cases", 528 00:32:16,767 --> 00:32:19,836 and rule out the... the cases of hoaxes, 529 00:32:19,870 --> 00:32:22,273 then you're into this interesting realm of, 530 00:32:22,305 --> 00:32:24,174 "Okay, something physical caused it, 531 00:32:24,208 --> 00:32:25,875 but what caused that physical?" 532 00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:28,879 Most ideas of a ghost 533 00:32:28,911 --> 00:32:31,515 involve the ghost being non-physical 534 00:32:31,547 --> 00:32:32,950 in some fundamental way. 535 00:32:32,982 --> 00:32:35,418 Any paranormal explanation 536 00:32:35,451 --> 00:32:37,520 is still going to involve 537 00:32:37,554 --> 00:32:40,423 something applying a force to the ball. 538 00:32:41,257 --> 00:32:42,226 And so therefore, 539 00:32:42,258 --> 00:32:44,495 the thing applying the force by definition, 540 00:32:44,527 --> 00:32:45,863 we've just made it physical. 541 00:32:46,529 --> 00:32:48,498 So, it's just an interesting conundrum 542 00:32:48,532 --> 00:32:51,636 that, to me, moves it from science to detective story. 543 00:32:57,341 --> 00:32:59,911 In the years that I've been here, 544 00:33:00,911 --> 00:33:02,779 I want to experience some lights. 545 00:33:02,813 --> 00:33:05,182 I've seen so many things in this house 546 00:33:05,548 --> 00:33:08,185 and with my own eyes, 547 00:33:08,852 --> 00:33:11,788 but that's what I wanna... that's what I wanna see. 548 00:33:12,456 --> 00:33:13,757 Those lights that you saw. 549 00:33:13,789 --> 00:33:16,793 We got all kinds of just great stuff 550 00:33:16,826 --> 00:33:21,231 and just stuff that's just direct responses and it's... it's fully intelligent. 551 00:33:21,265 --> 00:33:22,700 You know, it's not residual, 552 00:33:22,732 --> 00:33:25,401 it's intelligent stuff happening in the house, 553 00:33:25,434 --> 00:33:27,303 but there's that carrot that's dangling 554 00:33:27,336 --> 00:33:28,404 - Like the Holy Grail - Those lights 555 00:33:28,438 --> 00:33:31,007 The Holy Grail of what we're trying to capture here 556 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,909 is those... those... the lights that Alice saw. 557 00:33:32,942 --> 00:33:33,911 Yeah. 558 00:33:37,748 --> 00:33:38,915 Over the years, 559 00:33:38,949 --> 00:33:41,451 I've experienced one thing with lights. 560 00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:45,755 So, I was upstairs in the bedroom at the Mississippi house 561 00:33:45,788 --> 00:33:48,358 with the door closed, we were doing an EVP session. 562 00:33:48,392 --> 00:33:50,228 It was me and one fellow investigator. 563 00:33:51,728 --> 00:33:54,465 And the bottom frame of the door 564 00:33:54,498 --> 00:33:55,967 turned bright white 565 00:33:57,433 --> 00:33:59,902 and it was almost like a camera shutter, 566 00:33:59,936 --> 00:34:01,805 two to three flashes of light. 567 00:34:05,308 --> 00:34:07,411 I sat there, kind of, in awe for a few minutes. 568 00:34:07,443 --> 00:34:10,647 It was not raining, there was no thunder, the night was clear. 569 00:34:10,681 --> 00:34:13,017 I opened the door and it never happened again. 570 00:34:13,049 --> 00:34:15,585 We luckily did capture that on film. 571 00:34:20,357 --> 00:34:22,359 Miss Alice has had experiences with the lights, 572 00:34:22,392 --> 00:34:24,928 the... these are the... the lights that have scared her 573 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,631 to where she doesn't want to... to live in this house anymore. 574 00:34:28,899 --> 00:34:33,036 I personally don't feel that's a spirit activity or a ghost, 575 00:34:33,069 --> 00:34:34,638 I think that's something different. 576 00:34:36,006 --> 00:34:37,507 Perhaps, extra-terrestrial. 577 00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:41,812 It's something different going on with those lights. 578 00:34:43,580 --> 00:34:46,083 There is a woman who lives 7 miles from me, 579 00:34:46,116 --> 00:34:47,051 she's an elderly lady 580 00:34:47,084 --> 00:34:49,520 and so this happened when she was a child, 581 00:34:49,553 --> 00:34:53,656 but she said that her house lit up in a globe. 582 00:34:53,689 --> 00:34:55,325 And she said it was brighter than the sun, 583 00:34:55,359 --> 00:34:56,661 I remember that... that expression. 584 00:34:59,696 --> 00:35:01,598 Many years ago, 585 00:35:01,631 --> 00:35:03,600 when I lived... when I worked in Florence, 586 00:35:03,632 --> 00:35:06,337 Alice was in and out of the library where I worked a lot, 587 00:35:06,370 --> 00:35:07,305 'cause she lived close by. 588 00:35:08,071 --> 00:35:11,375 And I was telling her about this light that I saw 589 00:35:11,408 --> 00:35:12,976 when I was growing up 590 00:35:13,009 --> 00:35:14,978 right down in this community. 591 00:35:15,011 --> 00:35:17,448 And I was asleep at night 592 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,917 and I was awake, just fla... 593 00:35:19,950 --> 00:35:25,355 you know, flash and my... my light in my bedroom 594 00:35:25,388 --> 00:35:28,925 was lighter than... well, it was just a white light. 595 00:35:28,959 --> 00:35:31,428 A clear white brilliant light. 596 00:35:31,460 --> 00:35:33,730 Flash bulb bright. 597 00:35:33,763 --> 00:35:36,767 - Yeah, something like that. - It's just super, super bright. 598 00:35:36,799 --> 00:35:39,736 The trees and the house on the hill and everything 599 00:35:39,770 --> 00:35:41,071 Brilliant, brilliant 600 00:35:41,103 --> 00:35:43,040 Was just brilliant, brilliant light. 601 00:35:43,707 --> 00:35:45,075 It just faded away. 602 00:35:45,107 --> 00:35:47,077 And I just went back to bed and went back to sleep. 603 00:35:47,977 --> 00:35:50,447 You know, it's just... there's too much space 604 00:35:51,515 --> 00:35:52,817 to be the only ones here. 605 00:35:54,584 --> 00:35:56,819 She didn't know what that is in her house 606 00:35:56,852 --> 00:35:58,922 and I don't know what that was at my house. 607 00:36:00,457 --> 00:36:02,526 It's strange, I... you know, 608 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,828 it... it's really strange. 609 00:36:07,564 --> 00:36:09,665 The woman that I spoke to you about Alice Jackson. 610 00:36:09,698 --> 00:36:10,700 Uh-huh, yes, yeah. 611 00:36:10,734 --> 00:36:14,036 Uh, she'd said that in her bedroom... 612 00:36:14,069 --> 00:36:19,042 there was a glowing light and then disappeared. 613 00:36:19,075 --> 00:36:20,544 In... in your opinion, 614 00:36:20,576 --> 00:36:23,479 is there anything in terms of energy, science, 615 00:36:23,513 --> 00:36:28,652 things that are happening that could create an illuminated ball of light. 616 00:36:28,685 --> 00:36:31,188 A light cannot happen spontaneously, 617 00:36:31,221 --> 00:36:35,059 it has to have origin to have this light. 618 00:36:35,725 --> 00:36:37,728 If we have like other light, 619 00:36:37,761 --> 00:36:40,831 maybe reflection from window or from other place, 620 00:36:40,864 --> 00:36:42,466 it's possible to have that. 621 00:36:42,498 --> 00:36:46,002 Or they have other energy transfer to become light. 622 00:36:46,035 --> 00:36:49,839 Like uh, thermal energy, electric energy, 623 00:36:49,872 --> 00:36:51,974 so it's kind of a complicated question 624 00:36:52,007 --> 00:36:53,576 to... to be answered simply. 625 00:36:55,511 --> 00:36:58,015 There's a phenomenon in nature called "St. Elmo's fire", 626 00:36:58,047 --> 00:37:01,551 which is a static electricity discharge. 627 00:37:01,585 --> 00:37:03,954 If you have a build-up of static electricity for some reason, 628 00:37:03,986 --> 00:37:05,187 yeah, it can cause a glow. 629 00:37:05,221 --> 00:37:08,524 Uh, especially if it has some kind of medium to act on it. 630 00:37:08,558 --> 00:37:10,960 Sometimes, all it takes is just dust in the air. 631 00:37:11,995 --> 00:37:14,698 If it were a ball of lightning she was seeing in her house, 632 00:37:14,730 --> 00:37:16,132 she wouldn't have to ask, 633 00:37:16,165 --> 00:37:17,267 because it would tear something up, 634 00:37:17,301 --> 00:37:19,904 because this is a lot of energy, that's very destructive. 635 00:37:21,770 --> 00:37:23,940 Strange lights are often the easiest 636 00:37:23,973 --> 00:37:25,475 to offer different explanations to 637 00:37:25,509 --> 00:37:27,811 of all physics phenomenon. 638 00:37:27,843 --> 00:37:30,046 Light is the most flexible in a weird way. 639 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,016 The challenge is often recreating them 640 00:37:33,049 --> 00:37:35,719 or figuring out exactly what did it, um, 641 00:37:35,752 --> 00:37:37,855 at a level that would make someone confident 642 00:37:37,888 --> 00:37:39,989 that it really was just a physics effect. 643 00:37:42,993 --> 00:37:45,863 If I knew that it was... had a natural explanation, 644 00:37:45,895 --> 00:37:48,832 you know like, you know, I've heard now various theories 645 00:37:48,864 --> 00:37:50,200 about what could cause lights 646 00:37:50,232 --> 00:37:52,535 and if somebody definitively said, 647 00:37:52,569 --> 00:37:55,739 "Oh, it's the minerals and salt, something, you know, 648 00:37:55,772 --> 00:37:57,574 the natural that's causing the lights." 649 00:37:57,607 --> 00:37:59,543 Then I would immediately not be afraid. 650 00:37:59,576 --> 00:38:02,546 But uh, since that hasn't happened, 651 00:38:02,578 --> 00:38:04,580 it might be UFO stuff, 652 00:38:04,614 --> 00:38:07,284 it might be you know, some sort of inter-dimensional stuff 653 00:38:07,317 --> 00:38:11,154 that was from some civilization that was more advanced than we are. 654 00:38:11,187 --> 00:38:12,790 And so, in the beginning, 655 00:38:13,823 --> 00:38:17,560 you thought they were extra-terrestrial, UFOs? 656 00:38:17,593 --> 00:38:18,928 It... it crossed my mind. 657 00:38:18,962 --> 00:38:20,163 It really did cross my mind, 658 00:38:20,196 --> 00:38:21,797 that was the very first thing I thought. 659 00:38:21,830 --> 00:38:25,902 I have never seen anything that I can reconcile this with in my history, you know, 660 00:38:25,935 --> 00:38:27,136 reading or anything 661 00:38:27,171 --> 00:38:29,939 except maybe all the stuff that I had heard about UFO stuff. 662 00:38:29,973 --> 00:38:31,976 You know, beams of light and people disappearing. 663 00:38:45,055 --> 00:38:50,227 My name's Calvin Parker and I was abducted in 1973. 664 00:38:50,259 --> 00:38:52,062 October, 1973. 665 00:38:53,029 --> 00:38:55,766 It was just over here, uh, 666 00:38:55,799 --> 00:38:58,869 length of a football field and back that way. 667 00:38:59,736 --> 00:39:01,638 And that's where it sat down 668 00:39:01,671 --> 00:39:04,841 and when it originally sat down on a space in the river. 669 00:39:04,873 --> 00:39:07,745 And I could see the blue lights coming over my shoulder. 670 00:39:08,678 --> 00:39:11,281 When they stopped and it opened up 671 00:39:11,314 --> 00:39:13,817 and then a real bright light come out. 672 00:39:14,750 --> 00:39:17,787 Three robot-looking creatures came out. 673 00:39:18,254 --> 00:39:20,357 Two of 'em got hold of my sail. 674 00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:23,060 Took us aboard, gave us an examination. 675 00:39:24,127 --> 00:39:28,931 I didn't know what a UFO was or an alien was till this happened. 676 00:39:28,964 --> 00:39:31,267 And I still don't know that it was aliens. 677 00:39:31,301 --> 00:39:34,337 It could've been something from an inter-dimension you know, 678 00:39:34,370 --> 00:39:35,638 travelled through. 679 00:39:35,672 --> 00:39:36,840 I hadn't ruled that out. 680 00:39:37,806 --> 00:39:40,743 All I know is something happened. 681 00:39:47,817 --> 00:39:49,753 Certainly, for modern physics, 682 00:39:49,785 --> 00:39:54,023 we do believe that the world is multi-dimensional. 683 00:39:54,056 --> 00:39:57,060 More than just the three dimensions of space we move through 684 00:39:57,093 --> 00:39:59,261 and the one dimension of time. 685 00:39:59,294 --> 00:40:01,364 Most of what we understand about physics 686 00:40:01,397 --> 00:40:05,102 is probably best-explained with extra dimensions. 687 00:40:05,134 --> 00:40:07,870 It becomes interesting to try and figure out and understand 688 00:40:07,904 --> 00:40:11,408 what that means for things like multi-dimensional beings 689 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,276 and how different thing interact with our reality. 690 00:40:14,310 --> 00:40:17,814 And we're not even at the beginning from a physics point of view 691 00:40:17,846 --> 00:40:19,716 to make statements or understand about that. 692 00:40:19,748 --> 00:40:21,350 I think that's an area of physics 693 00:40:21,384 --> 00:40:24,622 that we're gonna find fascinating in the future. 694 00:40:25,254 --> 00:40:28,024 I do think that the potential 695 00:40:28,058 --> 00:40:31,862 of extraterrestrial life is there. 696 00:40:31,895 --> 00:40:34,730 Do I think it's in Alice's bedroom? 697 00:40:34,763 --> 00:40:37,200 No, I definitely don't think she is, 698 00:40:37,232 --> 00:40:40,069 you know, waiting for the next alien visit. 699 00:40:40,102 --> 00:40:42,305 But something scared her 700 00:40:42,337 --> 00:40:45,808 and that's what we're trying to figure out. 701 00:40:46,276 --> 00:40:47,377 What is it? 702 00:40:48,343 --> 00:40:50,413 I think it's something paranormal. 703 00:40:50,446 --> 00:40:55,419 This is something ghostly, this is something of our world. 704 00:40:55,451 --> 00:40:59,890 I don't think it's anything that has to do with outer space, 705 00:40:59,922 --> 00:41:02,392 UFOs or extraterrestrials. 706 00:41:06,830 --> 00:41:10,701 We are recording. You ready? 707 00:41:11,433 --> 00:41:13,703 - You have everything? - I was born ready. 708 00:41:17,741 --> 00:41:20,310 Let me just make sure this bad boy is still... 709 00:41:20,343 --> 00:41:23,714 We're here tonight to communicate 710 00:41:23,747 --> 00:41:25,915 with any spirit that's in this house. 711 00:41:28,317 --> 00:41:30,319 We've been here for a long time. 712 00:41:31,321 --> 00:41:33,390 We've logged a lot of hours in this house. 713 00:41:34,022 --> 00:41:36,859 Any intelligent spirit that's in this house tonight, 714 00:41:37,926 --> 00:41:41,230 we want you to come down here and communicate with us. 715 00:41:42,198 --> 00:41:43,834 And make yourself known. 716 00:41:49,872 --> 00:41:53,042 There's devices to alarm to let us know that you're near us. 717 00:41:55,044 --> 00:41:56,779 We want you to come down here 718 00:41:58,814 --> 00:42:01,217 and just like you have many times before 719 00:42:02,218 --> 00:42:05,489 let us know that you're here, let us feel your energy. 720 00:42:12,060 --> 00:42:14,263 I might've just saw a light dim. 721 00:42:15,198 --> 00:42:17,868 It's the REM pod. REM pod's going off. 722 00:42:17,901 --> 00:42:19,736 Chandelier light dim right before that. 723 00:42:21,136 --> 00:42:22,939 Just by a few seconds. 724 00:42:22,971 --> 00:42:24,506 Don't worry about the MV. 725 00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:26,009 - Oh, we got a REM pod going here. - The REM pod over here? 726 00:42:26,042 --> 00:42:29,145 All right, y'all go ahead, I'll stay in here and watch this one. 727 00:42:29,178 --> 00:42:30,513 Steady. 728 00:42:33,515 --> 00:42:34,917 This one is off. 729 00:42:36,118 --> 00:42:37,353 It was steady. 730 00:42:39,922 --> 00:42:41,491 See, I have to see patterns. 731 00:42:42,257 --> 00:42:43,960 If all three REM pods goes off, 732 00:42:44,593 --> 00:42:47,830 I'm a little more interested in this one where REM pod goin' off. 733 00:42:48,897 --> 00:42:50,399 I'd like to see like the light go off 734 00:42:50,433 --> 00:42:52,569 and the REM pod to go off at the same time. 735 00:42:52,602 --> 00:42:54,304 That'd be much more convincing for me. 736 00:42:54,337 --> 00:42:55,806 Yeah. That'd be pretty awesome. 737 00:43:01,343 --> 00:43:04,180 We're trying to understand and help you communicate 738 00:43:04,214 --> 00:43:06,315 throughout the years we've been here. 739 00:43:08,884 --> 00:43:10,286 Oh, we've got REM pods everywhere. 740 00:43:10,319 --> 00:43:11,622 Oh! Oh, all of 'em are going off. 741 00:43:11,654 --> 00:43:13,857 - We got one at the mantel. - We got a big one here. 742 00:43:13,890 --> 00:43:15,558 One on the stairs, um, I don't know. 743 00:43:19,094 --> 00:43:20,564 Brad, anything back here going on? 744 00:43:20,596 --> 00:43:21,765 Just the REM pod. 745 00:43:21,797 --> 00:43:22,698 - You have the REM pod too? - Another REM pod. 746 00:43:22,732 --> 00:43:24,935 All three of 'em were going off. 747 00:43:24,968 --> 00:43:27,136 So, all three just went off at the same time? 748 00:43:28,171 --> 00:43:29,205 - There it goes again. - Which is pretty cool, 749 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,207 because I'd... I'd mentioned before 750 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,109 about wanting to see all three of 'em go off. 751 00:43:32,908 --> 00:43:34,544 And yellow and green. 752 00:43:35,245 --> 00:43:37,848 I can't get a center sell without it going off, huh? 753 00:43:37,881 --> 00:43:38,949 Yeah. 754 00:43:38,982 --> 00:43:41,484 - Is that all? - Yeah, that's where 755 00:43:41,517 --> 00:43:43,152 Yeah, I'll just shut my mouth. 756 00:43:43,185 --> 00:43:47,223 It's a little more interesting to me for sure when all these devices go off. 757 00:43:47,991 --> 00:43:49,993 However, I'm still not 100% sold. 758 00:43:52,895 --> 00:43:55,431 We use some uh, devices and 759 00:43:55,464 --> 00:43:57,633 uh, they measure energy. 760 00:43:57,667 --> 00:44:00,370 And uh, we had one set up in the living room, 761 00:44:00,402 --> 00:44:02,471 one in the back bedroom, one in the stairs. 762 00:44:02,504 --> 00:44:04,907 We wanted to separate 'em as much as possible. 763 00:44:04,940 --> 00:44:07,410 Uh, and we do that so there's consistency. 764 00:44:07,442 --> 00:44:10,647 If one can go off, we can manipulate another one. 765 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,015 Uh, if they all go off at the same time, 766 00:44:13,049 --> 00:44:15,018 that's... that's pretty impressive, 767 00:44:15,051 --> 00:44:19,122 which is indicative of some kind of energy, 768 00:44:19,154 --> 00:44:21,190 something... uh, something going on. 769 00:44:21,223 --> 00:44:22,593 Something not normal. 770 00:44:23,859 --> 00:44:25,928 It's something, over the years, I've just never had happen. 771 00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:29,899 The light of God surrounds us, 772 00:44:29,933 --> 00:44:32,602 the love of God enfolds us, 773 00:44:32,634 --> 00:44:35,104 the power of God protects us, 774 00:44:35,138 --> 00:44:37,574 the presence of God watches over us. 775 00:44:37,607 --> 00:44:41,311 Wherever we are, God is and all is well. 776 00:44:48,183 --> 00:44:49,017 There's a REM pod going. 777 00:44:49,051 --> 00:44:50,319 Oh, where's that REM pod? 778 00:44:50,352 --> 00:44:51,320 - Is that REM pod up there? - Back bedroom. 779 00:44:51,353 --> 00:44:53,455 Back in that... you or is it going off? 780 00:44:53,489 --> 00:44:55,091 Back room! Here. 781 00:44:55,123 --> 00:44:56,158 Okay, great. 782 00:45:02,064 --> 00:45:03,399 This room is heavy, man. 783 00:45:04,067 --> 00:45:07,270 And as soon as I came in the room, I felt uneasy. 784 00:45:07,303 --> 00:45:09,239 We've actually had two mediums 785 00:45:09,272 --> 00:45:11,975 who didn't know each other and hadn't been here before 786 00:45:12,007 --> 00:45:14,611 and both of 'em said that there was a figure 787 00:45:14,643 --> 00:45:17,314 that they felt a presence of it near that chair. 788 00:45:18,181 --> 00:45:22,585 And that he really was stern and... and guarded. 789 00:45:22,618 --> 00:45:25,422 He was like a guard for the, you know the room, 790 00:45:25,455 --> 00:45:28,125 the place that he felt like, it was his place. 791 00:45:29,625 --> 00:45:31,294 - Interesting. - Just like that. 792 00:45:31,326 --> 00:45:33,629 I can't explain that... that much consistency. 793 00:45:35,230 --> 00:45:36,466 That was wild. 794 00:45:42,238 --> 00:45:45,040 Alice has had psychics investigate the house before 795 00:45:45,073 --> 00:45:48,010 and she wanted to have another one take a look around. 796 00:45:48,044 --> 00:45:51,080 And I don't use psychics on... on many investigations 797 00:45:51,114 --> 00:45:54,417 just because it's very hard to quantify what they're saying, 798 00:45:54,450 --> 00:45:56,553 but this was important to Alice. 799 00:45:56,585 --> 00:45:58,721 So, we got somebody from out of state, 800 00:45:58,754 --> 00:46:00,222 they came from California. 801 00:46:00,256 --> 00:46:02,192 One thing I did think it was important is 802 00:46:02,225 --> 00:46:05,127 using a psychic or a medium 803 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,996 who has never been to the house before 804 00:46:07,029 --> 00:46:08,265 and even furthermore, 805 00:46:08,297 --> 00:46:11,667 making sure they didn't have any idea where they were going. 806 00:46:11,701 --> 00:46:13,403 She didn't know anything, 807 00:46:15,004 --> 00:46:18,174 only because that would lend more credibility to what they were saying. 808 00:46:24,312 --> 00:46:25,681 Very interesting. 809 00:46:40,797 --> 00:46:42,599 Oh, okay. 810 00:46:51,540 --> 00:46:52,908 Now am I... 811 00:46:52,942 --> 00:46:54,511 - do you just want me to go on in. - Yeah, that's right. 812 00:47:00,082 --> 00:47:02,118 - Ring the bell. - Yeah. 813 00:47:08,623 --> 00:47:09,524 - Hi! - Hi. 814 00:47:09,558 --> 00:47:12,094 - I'm Jill. - I'm Alice. Come in. 815 00:47:12,127 --> 00:47:14,196 - Nice to meet you, Alice. - Nice to meet you, too. 816 00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:15,698 Thank you for having me here. 817 00:47:15,730 --> 00:47:17,466 Absolutely, we're delighted. 818 00:47:18,366 --> 00:47:20,669 - Where would you like me to go? - The house is yours. 819 00:47:20,703 --> 00:47:22,672 - Okay. - This is yours. 820 00:47:22,705 --> 00:47:23,840 Very good. 821 00:47:23,872 --> 00:47:28,343 So uh, what I'll do is I'm just gonna start down here. 822 00:47:28,377 --> 00:47:31,081 I am not gonna say too much at first, 823 00:47:31,114 --> 00:47:35,752 if you have any questions though for me, feel free to ask. 824 00:47:36,585 --> 00:47:38,154 Okay. 825 00:47:38,187 --> 00:47:40,824 And I'm just gonna sit over here. 826 00:47:52,401 --> 00:47:53,837 Hmm. Is this a door to go outside? 827 00:47:53,870 --> 00:47:55,672 It is, you can open it if you'd like. 828 00:47:55,705 --> 00:47:57,340 - Do you mind? - No, not at all. 829 00:47:57,372 --> 00:47:59,608 - Okay, I have to do this. - Not at all. 830 00:48:06,214 --> 00:48:08,285 I have to get out here and look at this. 831 00:48:19,361 --> 00:48:21,397 It's very interesting. 832 00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:29,206 Can I ask you a question? 833 00:48:29,872 --> 00:48:31,707 Was there a house that was right over here 834 00:48:31,741 --> 00:48:34,444 - that's no longer there? - Behind Yes. 835 00:48:34,477 --> 00:48:36,179 That's what I thought, okay. 836 00:48:36,212 --> 00:48:37,681 That's important to me. 837 00:49:00,803 --> 00:49:03,339 What I like to do is I just like to go through 838 00:49:03,372 --> 00:49:05,707 and pick some really strong focal points 839 00:49:05,741 --> 00:49:07,177 and then I'm gonna address them 840 00:49:07,210 --> 00:49:08,745 like I did with that other door. 841 00:49:09,978 --> 00:49:11,681 I'm just checking everything out. 842 00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:15,551 Okay. 843 00:49:26,596 --> 00:49:27,831 This one now. 844 00:49:33,535 --> 00:49:34,637 Wow. 845 00:49:35,638 --> 00:49:37,973 There's a lot of different dimensions going on, 846 00:49:38,006 --> 00:49:40,643 there's a lot of shifting going on in this house. 847 00:49:49,518 --> 00:49:50,887 Okay. 848 00:49:52,020 --> 00:49:55,325 I'm gonna ask you a couple of questions. 849 00:49:55,357 --> 00:49:59,696 About a week ago, I started having some very unusual dreams 850 00:49:59,728 --> 00:50:02,332 that turned into what I call a "series." 851 00:50:02,364 --> 00:50:05,334 I document them, I have a dream diary. 852 00:50:05,368 --> 00:50:07,203 I also sometimes sketch. 853 00:50:07,669 --> 00:50:10,439 What is so unusual 854 00:50:10,473 --> 00:50:12,942 is as soon as I saw that door, went outside, 855 00:50:12,975 --> 00:50:15,612 I knew this was the door. 856 00:50:16,044 --> 00:50:18,680 This is the sketch that I did, 857 00:50:18,714 --> 00:50:21,417 the walking stick leaning up against the door. 858 00:50:21,450 --> 00:50:23,719 - Do you have a walking stick? - Uh, uh, hundreds. 859 00:50:23,752 --> 00:50:25,754 That's... that's insane. 860 00:50:26,622 --> 00:50:28,491 With faces, I collect 'em. 861 00:50:29,524 --> 00:50:31,427 I don't even know if I should say this. 862 00:50:35,964 --> 00:50:37,834 - I don't know if this - I'm a psychiatric nurse, 863 00:50:37,866 --> 00:50:41,270 I've heard of murder stories, I've heard of abuse, everything 864 00:50:41,303 --> 00:50:43,739 I don't want you to panic, it's nothing to panic about 865 00:50:43,772 --> 00:50:46,642 but it is to me, it's a very sad imprint. 866 00:50:46,676 --> 00:50:49,346 There was somebody killed in your backyard. 867 00:50:51,580 --> 00:50:54,750 I do think there were landowners that lived here initially 868 00:50:54,783 --> 00:50:58,353 that did not treat people so well. 869 00:50:58,386 --> 00:51:01,323 The male, I feel him here. 870 00:51:01,357 --> 00:51:03,893 I don't use this phrase very often, 871 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,430 but he was an evil person. 872 00:51:07,462 --> 00:51:09,931 And I do think he had something to do 873 00:51:09,964 --> 00:51:12,001 with the man that was killed in the back. 874 00:51:14,837 --> 00:51:18,875 He's going to do whatever he can to try to get you to give up. 875 00:51:18,908 --> 00:51:21,411 If he could burn this house down, he would. 876 00:51:24,113 --> 00:51:27,350 Like I keep seeing things on fire, 877 00:51:27,382 --> 00:51:31,353 it's constantly setting fire, constantly setting fire. 878 00:51:31,386 --> 00:51:33,955 We had a number of people who heard that. 879 00:51:39,094 --> 00:51:40,930 Then that's weird. 880 00:51:45,401 --> 00:51:48,404 You struck a thought. 881 00:51:48,437 --> 00:51:51,040 I've heard of history of fires in this town. 882 00:51:54,009 --> 00:51:57,380 Florence burned several times. 883 00:51:59,047 --> 00:52:01,383 First time it was uh, 884 00:52:01,417 --> 00:52:03,518 facing west and when they rebuilt, 885 00:52:03,551 --> 00:52:04,886 they built it north, 886 00:52:04,919 --> 00:52:08,924 so that's the reason it's built with facing north now. 887 00:52:10,558 --> 00:52:12,527 Do we know what caused the fire? 888 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,663 And from what I know, they... they don't know. 889 00:52:14,696 --> 00:52:15,931 I mean, you know? 890 00:52:15,964 --> 00:52:17,667 - But the fire created - But there 891 00:52:17,700 --> 00:52:19,035 Wherever the fire was created, 892 00:52:19,067 --> 00:52:21,870 the... the uh, geographical reconfiguration. 893 00:52:21,904 --> 00:52:23,306 Uh-huh. 894 00:52:23,339 --> 00:52:25,442 That's what... that's what he was saying that ...that... that... that 895 00:52:31,446 --> 00:52:32,681 It's a fire detector. 896 00:52:32,714 --> 00:52:33,882 All right, right there in the hallway. 897 00:52:33,915 --> 00:52:35,852 Smoke detector. 898 00:52:35,884 --> 00:52:37,419 We're talking about fire 899 00:52:37,453 --> 00:52:38,922 and the smoke detector battery beeps. 900 00:52:43,692 --> 00:52:45,895 My neighbor Erin next door, 901 00:52:45,928 --> 00:52:47,864 moved there when she was 5 years old. 902 00:52:47,897 --> 00:52:51,100 And uh, she's had a very significant part in this house, 903 00:52:51,132 --> 00:52:54,437 but the main thing is that when she was 5 years old, 904 00:52:54,469 --> 00:52:58,607 she would tell me that there was something buried in the backyard. 905 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,575 And I would say, "What?" 906 00:53:00,609 --> 00:53:02,812 And she would say, "It might be a body." 907 00:53:06,448 --> 00:53:09,017 I've lived in this house next door 908 00:53:09,051 --> 00:53:10,920 since I was about 5 years old. 909 00:53:11,553 --> 00:53:13,655 And ever since I've lived here, 910 00:53:13,689 --> 00:53:15,924 I've always thought there was something different 911 00:53:15,957 --> 00:53:18,127 about next-door even as a child. 912 00:53:19,861 --> 00:53:22,197 Uh, I would walk over there sometimes 913 00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:23,598 and one day I was over there 914 00:53:23,631 --> 00:53:25,000 and I just had a strong feeling of, 915 00:53:25,033 --> 00:53:27,202 "Oh, there's something, something different." 916 00:53:27,236 --> 00:53:30,506 And uh, I was probably 6 or 7 years old. 917 00:53:30,538 --> 00:53:33,508 And I was just convinced 918 00:53:33,542 --> 00:53:36,879 that there was somebody buried in the backyard. 919 00:53:36,911 --> 00:53:40,549 And um, I... I told my parents for years 920 00:53:40,582 --> 00:53:43,885 that there is somebody buried in that backyard. 921 00:53:43,919 --> 00:53:46,522 And uh, you couldn't convince me otherwise. 922 00:53:46,555 --> 00:53:47,957 And I... I still think that now. 923 00:53:47,989 --> 00:53:50,725 I was very adamant about it as a child. 924 00:53:50,759 --> 00:53:52,762 And I still get that feeling 925 00:53:52,794 --> 00:53:56,898 over there and when I'm in that spot, I'm just driven to that... 926 00:53:56,931 --> 00:53:59,701 that particular area and I always have been. 927 00:54:00,268 --> 00:54:03,038 One time I... I said I was gonna go dig it up 928 00:54:03,071 --> 00:54:05,474 and prove that there was something there. 929 00:54:07,643 --> 00:54:09,712 If you walk between our house and Alice's, 930 00:54:09,745 --> 00:54:12,482 you'll see the property line. 931 00:54:12,515 --> 00:54:15,951 These big oak trees that make a straight line. 932 00:54:15,984 --> 00:54:17,687 That's the property line. 933 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,922 Seems like once you cross that property line, you're... 934 00:54:21,156 --> 00:54:22,959 - In a different dimension. - You're protected, yeah. 935 00:54:22,991 --> 00:54:23,993 - Yeah. - It won't let us... 936 00:54:25,093 --> 00:54:28,730 My parents sadly have never had anything happen um, 937 00:54:28,763 --> 00:54:30,932 we never uh noticed anything, heard anything, 938 00:54:30,966 --> 00:54:35,238 but the minute you cross back over this tree line into her yard, 939 00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:38,707 it um... you can just feel it that it's here. 940 00:54:40,276 --> 00:54:42,844 I was visiting with Miss Alice once 941 00:54:42,877 --> 00:54:46,716 and we were sitting in the dining room up... under the-the chandelier light. 942 00:54:47,616 --> 00:54:50,253 And she goes, "Look, look up." 943 00:54:50,285 --> 00:54:54,289 And I looked up and the... the chandelier um, 944 00:54:54,323 --> 00:54:58,094 it had rotated itself like with the chain, 945 00:54:58,127 --> 00:55:00,228 there was no tension in it. 946 00:55:00,261 --> 00:55:02,797 It was... it was tilted on its side. 947 00:55:02,830 --> 00:55:04,733 And I screamed, I mean, 948 00:55:04,767 --> 00:55:07,169 real loud scream and she screamed 949 00:55:07,201 --> 00:55:10,707 and both of us jumped up and ran over to the front door. 950 00:55:11,573 --> 00:55:13,808 And the chandelier let go 951 00:55:13,841 --> 00:55:17,245 and it was swinging so hard and far, 952 00:55:17,279 --> 00:55:19,181 like this, just going 953 00:55:19,214 --> 00:55:20,181 Like a pendulum. 954 00:55:20,214 --> 00:55:22,584 Yeah, it was scary. 955 00:55:22,618 --> 00:55:24,120 I've been scared over there 956 00:55:24,152 --> 00:55:26,089 and just scared to go over there many times. 957 00:55:34,029 --> 00:55:35,231 Flashlight? 958 00:55:37,131 --> 00:55:39,232 Here, give you a light. 959 00:55:39,234 --> 00:55:40,270 Thank you. 960 00:55:40,935 --> 00:55:42,738 - Hey, Erin. - Hey. 961 00:55:43,739 --> 00:55:44,540 So 962 00:55:44,573 --> 00:55:46,075 I'm doing well, how are you doing? 963 00:55:46,107 --> 00:55:48,176 - Good, good to see you. - You too. 964 00:55:48,210 --> 00:55:49,779 How are you? 965 00:55:49,812 --> 00:55:51,180 - I'm good. - Long time no see. 966 00:55:51,212 --> 00:55:52,281 You doing all right? 967 00:55:52,314 --> 00:55:53,982 - Yeah, I'm hanging in there. - Good, good. 968 00:55:54,015 --> 00:55:56,318 So, we're going to go 969 00:55:56,919 --> 00:55:58,087 to where you think 970 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,024 there might be something in the backyard. 971 00:56:01,623 --> 00:56:02,859 - Yes. - Okay. 972 00:56:02,892 --> 00:56:04,727 - There are a couple of spots. - So, we're gonna follow you. 973 00:56:05,761 --> 00:56:06,863 Okay. 974 00:56:14,236 --> 00:56:15,837 Watch your steps. 975 00:56:25,913 --> 00:56:27,882 So, you felt like drawn to this spot, Erin? 976 00:56:27,915 --> 00:56:30,919 Yeah, since I was uh, probably about 6 years old, 977 00:56:30,953 --> 00:56:32,721 I've always felt that there was... 978 00:56:32,754 --> 00:56:34,089 there's something over on this land. 979 00:56:34,122 --> 00:56:36,825 That every time I was in one of... in this spot, 980 00:56:36,859 --> 00:56:38,828 one of the stronger ones, 981 00:56:38,861 --> 00:56:40,997 I just always thought it was a body here. 982 00:56:41,029 --> 00:56:44,299 Or something significant happened to the body here. 983 00:56:44,332 --> 00:56:46,067 But this is one of the main ones. 984 00:56:46,100 --> 00:56:49,638 This was the one that I... I came to when I was real little. 985 00:56:49,672 --> 00:56:52,708 We would come over here and play like little tea parties 986 00:56:52,741 --> 00:56:54,076 And stuff at her backyard. 987 00:56:54,109 --> 00:56:55,143 She'd let us in. 988 00:56:55,176 --> 00:56:58,314 And I just didn't want to come play in this spot. 989 00:56:58,346 --> 00:57:03,084 Erin actually did find four bodies near the Pearl River. 990 00:57:03,118 --> 00:57:05,654 People knew they were there from the Civil War 991 00:57:06,388 --> 00:57:09,290 and uh, and adults were trying to find those bodies and they couldn't. 992 00:57:09,323 --> 00:57:11,660 That other guy told me that 993 00:57:11,694 --> 00:57:14,130 when he took me along that sometimes children 994 00:57:14,163 --> 00:57:16,399 are more open to... to things 995 00:57:16,431 --> 00:57:19,232 that adults want to be close-minded to. 996 00:57:19,234 --> 00:57:21,303 And so, he wanted me to try it. 997 00:57:21,335 --> 00:57:22,837 And um, 998 00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:25,006 everywhere that I walked over and they crossed, 999 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,143 they put a flag and then later that day, 1000 00:57:27,176 --> 00:57:28,678 went and did whatever they do. 1001 00:57:28,710 --> 00:57:31,113 And where I had marked, they found all four bodies. 1002 00:57:31,145 --> 00:57:33,149 That validates this one here. 1003 00:57:33,181 --> 00:57:34,250 - Validates, yeah. - Right. 1004 00:57:34,283 --> 00:57:35,250 And what else. 1005 00:57:35,283 --> 00:57:36,852 How could you have more validation than that, 1006 00:57:36,884 --> 00:57:38,754 that's impressive. 1007 00:57:38,786 --> 00:57:41,390 Well, you wanna try to do a EVP session right here? 1008 00:57:41,422 --> 00:57:42,892 - Sure. - Are you okay with that? 1009 00:57:42,924 --> 00:57:44,326 Oh yeah, take it around? 1010 00:57:45,426 --> 00:57:48,064 But... but you know, you can grab onto me. 1011 00:57:48,096 --> 00:57:49,899 - Okay. - You trust me after a few years, don't you? 1012 00:57:49,931 --> 00:57:51,767 Yeah, I'll do it, I'll hang out... okay. 1013 00:57:52,433 --> 00:57:53,868 All right, you ready? 1014 00:57:53,902 --> 00:57:54,771 - Yeah. - Okay. 1015 00:57:58,140 --> 00:58:00,475 Is there somebody out here in the yard? 1016 00:58:00,509 --> 00:58:02,011 Or the land? 1017 00:58:05,747 --> 00:58:07,349 Can you give us some kind of sign 1018 00:58:08,216 --> 00:58:10,952 that you're aware that Erin is standing right here? 1019 00:58:14,323 --> 00:58:15,924 Do you know Erin? 1020 00:58:18,060 --> 00:58:19,362 Hear that? 1021 00:58:20,730 --> 00:58:23,299 - It's like rustling in the bushes. - Yeah, yeah. 1022 00:58:29,538 --> 00:58:31,774 Is there something buried in the yard? 1023 00:58:34,843 --> 00:58:36,377 I'm not gonna lie, I jumped a little. 1024 00:58:36,410 --> 00:58:38,313 That was a little... it was kinda loud. 1025 00:58:40,982 --> 00:58:42,785 It was kinda loud whatever that was. 1026 00:58:45,353 --> 00:58:47,223 - Can you tell us what - I feel like I'm gonna throw up. 1027 00:58:47,256 --> 00:58:50,026 - Really? - Real sick. 1028 00:58:50,859 --> 00:58:52,328 Mm-hmm. 1029 00:58:52,361 --> 00:58:53,828 Just give me a... I just need to breathe. 1030 00:58:53,861 --> 00:58:55,497 - Okay. - Let me breath for a moment. 1031 00:58:55,531 --> 00:58:57,900 - Wanna walk out this way? - Mm-hmm. 1032 00:58:57,933 --> 00:59:00,469 - Which way? - Just over here to the bushes. 1033 00:59:01,870 --> 00:59:03,172 Oh my God. 1034 00:59:04,105 --> 00:59:05,507 - You okay? - Mm-hmm. 1035 00:59:27,062 --> 00:59:28,364 You okay? 1036 00:59:29,897 --> 00:59:32,500 My stomach just got tied up in knots. 1037 00:59:32,533 --> 00:59:33,334 It's okay. 1038 00:59:35,370 --> 00:59:37,006 I don't think I've ever spent 1039 00:59:37,038 --> 00:59:38,975 longer than four seconds standing in that spot. 1040 01:00:11,873 --> 01:00:15,143 Right now, we have a dog roaming the property 1041 01:00:15,176 --> 01:00:16,344 and trying to see if he can get hits 1042 01:00:16,377 --> 01:00:18,580 and see if he can pick up 1043 01:00:18,614 --> 01:00:24,554 on the scent of the bacteria that feeds on human remains. 1044 01:00:45,473 --> 01:00:47,642 Probing the aerated soil, 1045 01:00:47,676 --> 01:00:52,547 so that if there is any cadaver source here 1046 01:00:53,982 --> 01:00:57,052 it will allow the odor 1047 01:00:57,085 --> 01:01:00,122 to come up easier 1048 01:01:00,989 --> 01:01:05,261 and make it a little stronger for the dog to be able to work. 1049 01:01:11,565 --> 01:01:12,935 Slight interest and you can see 1050 01:01:12,968 --> 01:01:14,636 where he kept going back to that one area. 1051 01:01:14,669 --> 01:01:16,204 So, I'm going to run him through that area. 1052 01:01:22,176 --> 01:01:23,277 If it's someone buried, 1053 01:01:23,312 --> 01:01:26,415 the dog's gonna show a lot of interest to the trees. 1054 01:01:26,448 --> 01:01:28,250 And if a body is buried somewhere 1055 01:01:29,051 --> 01:01:31,020 and the trees grow up, 1056 01:01:31,053 --> 01:01:33,055 well they use the body as nourishment. 1057 01:01:33,087 --> 01:01:36,257 And so, the tree takes on that odor 1058 01:01:36,290 --> 01:01:38,227 and it's in their leaves and things like that. 1059 01:01:52,674 --> 01:01:56,445 He's going around these clumps of trees. 1060 01:01:56,477 --> 01:01:59,414 These are the only trees that he's looking up into, you know, 1061 01:01:59,448 --> 01:02:01,283 cause there are a lot of trees on this property, 1062 01:02:01,315 --> 01:02:04,620 but this section was what he's showing interest in 1063 01:02:04,652 --> 01:02:05,821 and looking up into the trees. 1064 01:02:05,853 --> 01:02:10,259 It's kinda like when we did a case in another state, 1065 01:02:10,292 --> 01:02:12,127 the body was buried 1066 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,296 uh, and then they went back and dug it up 1067 01:02:14,328 --> 01:02:15,698 and moved it to another location. 1068 01:02:15,730 --> 01:02:17,966 The odor and the decomp was still in the ground. 1069 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,702 So, it's that type of thing. 1070 01:02:19,734 --> 01:02:22,971 So, yeah it could be way old. 1071 01:02:27,009 --> 01:02:29,745 He's not given us a definite location. 1072 01:02:29,777 --> 01:02:32,381 He's just giving us where he is picking up odor 1073 01:02:32,413 --> 01:02:34,549 and it's coming through the trees. 1074 01:02:34,582 --> 01:02:37,652 It's the odor that he has been trained for, 1075 01:02:37,685 --> 01:02:39,587 I would investigate and see 1076 01:02:39,620 --> 01:02:41,456 whether or not there was a cemetery here. 1077 01:02:41,489 --> 01:02:43,993 And if they moved any bodies 1078 01:02:44,026 --> 01:02:47,129 and that may give you an answer to why the odor is here. 1079 01:03:02,410 --> 01:03:05,646 We brought some cadaver dogs over there, right? 1080 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,216 Uh-huh. 1081 01:03:07,248 --> 01:03:10,585 Um, which they smell decomposition and bacteria 1082 01:03:10,618 --> 01:03:13,622 that feeds on human bodies... that sort of thing. 1083 01:03:13,654 --> 01:03:15,591 And those dogs were picking up 1084 01:03:15,623 --> 01:03:18,359 that odor in and around her yard 1085 01:03:18,393 --> 01:03:22,431 and so, we wanted to do a little research and see if perhaps 1086 01:03:22,464 --> 01:03:25,601 there's ever been any sort of evidence 1087 01:03:26,435 --> 01:03:31,239 of a burial there or a graveyard at any point in time? 1088 01:03:31,272 --> 01:03:35,276 This is a picture of the Florence Cemetery. 1089 01:03:35,710 --> 01:03:37,179 Right, yep. 1090 01:03:37,212 --> 01:03:39,315 This part that's clear 1091 01:03:40,114 --> 01:03:43,785 that is the original part of the cemetery. 1092 01:03:44,419 --> 01:03:45,252 All this here? 1093 01:03:45,286 --> 01:03:47,221 - All of this. - Okay, okay. 1094 01:03:47,254 --> 01:03:51,160 When the town burned, all of the records were burned. 1095 01:03:52,426 --> 01:03:57,832 And there is not any records anywhere on that part of it. 1096 01:03:57,866 --> 01:03:59,501 I see. 1097 01:03:59,533 --> 01:04:03,404 Do you think where Miss Alice's house is that perhaps 1098 01:04:03,437 --> 01:04:05,506 there could have been something like that 1099 01:04:05,540 --> 01:04:09,445 before record keeping, like before it all burnt? 1100 01:04:09,477 --> 01:04:11,180 It could be, but if it is, 1101 01:04:11,212 --> 01:04:13,415 I don't think there is any record of that. 1102 01:04:13,448 --> 01:04:17,152 So, if there was a grave of some sort or a burial 1103 01:04:17,185 --> 01:04:20,122 where Miss Alice lives now, 1104 01:04:20,154 --> 01:04:22,524 it would've had to have been before the fire. 1105 01:04:22,556 --> 01:04:23,524 Right. 1106 01:04:23,558 --> 01:04:26,795 In regards to this, where is Alice's house? 1107 01:04:26,828 --> 01:04:27,863 Is it say, north? 1108 01:04:27,895 --> 01:04:30,531 - Okay. Right. - Is it east or west? 1109 01:04:30,564 --> 01:04:33,367 All right, she's on this Clear Branch road. 1110 01:04:33,401 --> 01:04:34,469 Okay. 1111 01:04:34,502 --> 01:04:36,838 So, it will be up here. 1112 01:04:36,872 --> 01:04:39,140 Okay, so her house is somewhere... 1113 01:04:39,174 --> 01:04:40,843 Her house would be around here. 1114 01:04:41,475 --> 01:04:46,381 So, her house is around here where the unmarked section is. 1115 01:04:46,915 --> 01:04:49,418 Right, it would be on about there. 1116 01:04:51,252 --> 01:04:54,522 So, there are plenty of unmarked burials in Florence, 1117 01:04:54,556 --> 01:04:56,625 but no real evidence to show 1118 01:04:56,658 --> 01:04:58,761 that it's right there on Alice's property. 1119 01:04:59,393 --> 01:05:04,366 But nobody knows where those burials were prior to the fire. 1120 01:05:04,399 --> 01:05:06,667 After the fire, everything was destroyed. 1121 01:05:06,701 --> 01:05:08,737 All the records for the town, 1122 01:05:08,770 --> 01:05:11,873 so, there could have been something prior. 1123 01:05:12,473 --> 01:05:16,411 We can't jump to any conclusions, but we can speculate. 1124 01:05:20,649 --> 01:05:23,852 Would you ever consider moving back into the house and living here? 1125 01:05:23,884 --> 01:05:26,154 What would it take? 1126 01:05:26,788 --> 01:05:28,257 I uh... 1127 01:05:28,790 --> 01:05:30,893 if I didn't live here alone, you know, 1128 01:05:30,926 --> 01:05:32,527 if somebody else lived with me, 1129 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,395 I'd probably, you know, I could do it, I could do it. 1130 01:05:34,428 --> 01:05:37,665 But... but alone here, uh, I haven't come to that point. 1131 01:05:37,698 --> 01:05:39,901 I mean, I haven't been to that place yet. 1132 01:05:39,935 --> 01:05:41,370 I really haven't. 1133 01:05:41,402 --> 01:05:42,603 I'm not saying I couldn't, but I haven't. 1134 01:05:42,636 --> 01:05:44,205 I'm not ready yet. 1135 01:05:44,906 --> 01:05:49,145 Because I still, I still don't know where I might end up. 1136 01:05:50,812 --> 01:05:52,647 I hope this process helps her, 1137 01:05:52,681 --> 01:05:55,384 I really do, that's the goal, that's what we're trying to... 1138 01:05:55,417 --> 01:05:57,685 I think we're 80% there, to be honest with you. 1139 01:05:57,718 --> 01:05:59,187 I think we're about 80% there. 1140 01:06:00,422 --> 01:06:04,459 Are we ever gonna get her back in the house sleeping at night? 1141 01:06:04,491 --> 01:06:05,460 I don't know. 1142 01:06:06,361 --> 01:06:08,797 I hope through this process, it uh... 1143 01:06:14,969 --> 01:06:17,473 There's no crying in ghost hunting, so... 1144 01:06:18,973 --> 01:06:20,741 I want to get to the point 1145 01:06:20,774 --> 01:06:24,912 where we can get her at peace with all of this. 1146 01:06:24,946 --> 01:06:26,614 She wants to get back here, 1147 01:06:26,647 --> 01:06:28,517 she wants to live here, she wants to be in here. 1148 01:06:28,549 --> 01:06:29,517 She wants to do everything. 1149 01:06:29,551 --> 01:06:31,286 She knew it was the place to raise a family, 1150 01:06:31,319 --> 01:06:33,221 her daughter, her everything. 1151 01:06:33,254 --> 01:06:34,989 And uh, it was taken away from her and uh, 1152 01:06:35,022 --> 01:06:37,559 we need to get that back. 1153 01:06:38,692 --> 01:06:41,395 The reason I still have my house and I haven't sold it 1154 01:06:41,428 --> 01:06:43,764 is because I really believe it has a purpose. 1155 01:06:43,797 --> 01:06:45,801 I think, you know, opening it up to people 1156 01:06:45,834 --> 01:06:47,736 is the way that something will be found. 1157 01:06:47,768 --> 01:06:50,372 If I sold it, somebody else might not be open to that. 1158 01:06:51,306 --> 01:06:52,942 But I think there's more to it. 1159 01:06:54,308 --> 01:06:56,644 I think everybody involved in this house 1160 01:06:56,678 --> 01:06:58,779 has a real closeness, 1161 01:06:58,812 --> 01:07:01,282 a genuine concern about each other. 1162 01:07:01,315 --> 01:07:03,417 I really have enjoyed the people that I've met. 1163 01:07:03,451 --> 01:07:06,521 Uh, I have a lot of special affection for John and Brad. 1164 01:07:06,553 --> 01:07:08,022 I mean, I really do, I feel like they're family. 1165 01:07:08,056 --> 01:07:10,626 And even though we have our lives separate, from here 1166 01:07:10,658 --> 01:07:13,461 we... we are definitely connected here. 1167 01:07:16,598 --> 01:07:19,935 It's been quite a ride from the first day I was here 1168 01:07:19,968 --> 01:07:22,337 to my current uh, relationship 1169 01:07:22,370 --> 01:07:23,638 and friendship with Miss Alice. 1170 01:07:24,705 --> 01:07:27,942 Alice will be in my life forever 1171 01:07:27,975 --> 01:07:31,779 even... uh, maybe when I pass away, when I cross over, 1172 01:07:31,812 --> 01:07:34,450 if she crosses over before me, we will hang out. 1173 01:07:34,882 --> 01:07:36,884 If uh... if I cross over, 1174 01:07:36,917 --> 01:07:40,756 well maybe I'll kick the ball down the steps on her. 1175 01:07:42,056 --> 01:07:45,493 Being involved in investigating paranormal activity 1176 01:07:45,527 --> 01:07:48,797 has become a mid-life second wind for me. 1177 01:07:48,830 --> 01:07:51,667 It's something that I've found that I really enjoy doing. 1178 01:07:51,700 --> 01:07:53,801 And couple that with helping a friend, 1179 01:07:53,835 --> 01:07:57,406 Miss Alice, really has been beneficial for my life. 1180 01:07:57,439 --> 01:07:58,839 It's just... it's added a... 1181 01:07:58,872 --> 01:08:01,509 a fresh chapter in my mid-life years. 1182 01:08:01,542 --> 01:08:04,345 It's made me wanna get up 1183 01:08:04,379 --> 01:08:07,482 and hit... hit the ground running more in my life. 1184 01:08:07,515 --> 01:08:09,384 So, it's a very, very important part of my life now. 1185 01:08:10,585 --> 01:08:11,620 We're a great team. 1186 01:08:11,652 --> 01:08:14,756 We make time for each other and I think that 1187 01:08:15,489 --> 01:08:18,693 we are locked in to figuring out what's going on in the house. 1188 01:08:20,028 --> 01:08:22,097 I would like to see Alice in a happy place 1189 01:08:22,130 --> 01:08:24,466 where she's satisfied with the work that we've done. 1190 01:08:24,498 --> 01:08:26,835 And I think she's gotten some answers. 1191 01:08:26,867 --> 01:08:29,772 I think there's key answers that she still has not had. 1192 01:08:30,604 --> 01:08:32,773 And end game for the Mississippi house. 1193 01:08:32,806 --> 01:08:34,776 In my opinion, I don't know if there is one, 1194 01:08:34,809 --> 01:08:37,346 and I think that this is a house where we're learning, 1195 01:08:37,379 --> 01:08:38,479 we're teaching. 1196 01:08:38,514 --> 01:08:40,815 And I think it's something that we can continue to do 1197 01:08:40,849 --> 01:08:41,884 for years to come. 1198 01:10:23,617 --> 01:10:25,553 - I put it on there this morning. - Yeah. 1199 01:10:25,586 --> 01:10:26,921 What do you mean you put it on this morning? 1200 01:10:26,955 --> 01:10:28,857 - I aimed my camera. - You did? 1201 01:10:28,889 --> 01:10:31,660 - Hey! Check this! - No, I aimed the camera 1202 01:10:31,693 --> 01:10:33,061 Check it, how do you check it? 1203 01:10:33,094 --> 01:10:35,197 - I don't know. - I got chills right now. 1204 01:10:36,029 --> 01:10:38,166 Dude, that just did that. 1205 01:10:38,198 --> 01:10:39,768 I don't... wasn't near it, nobody was there. 1206 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:40,868 I saw that. 1207 01:10:40,902 --> 01:10:42,938 - So, if we got that... - Dude, here. 1208 01:10:42,970 --> 01:10:45,040 - We got that. - Holy! 1209 01:10:45,706 --> 01:10:47,575 Do you know how to check it on there? 1210 01:10:47,608 --> 01:10:49,210 How to bring it up on there? 1211 01:10:49,243 --> 01:10:51,078 Yeah, it's gonna be quick right here. 1212 01:10:51,112 --> 01:10:52,781 That's okay. It... it'll be... 1213 01:10:52,813 --> 01:10:55,249 Dude, come on, you gotta be kidding me right now. 1214 01:10:55,282 --> 01:10:56,584 Don't believe it. 1215 01:10:56,617 --> 01:10:58,620 Yeah, here we go, here's my last shot. 1216 01:10:58,653 --> 01:10:59,988 It was rolling. 1217 01:11:00,020 --> 01:11:01,790 - Yeah, we got it? - Yeah, it's not there anymore. 1218 01:11:03,056 --> 01:11:05,727 All right, so I was inside 1219 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,830 and I was running around, I'm trying to get this gear sent out, 1220 01:11:08,862 --> 01:11:11,899 because we have gear shipping out today. 1221 01:11:11,933 --> 01:11:13,667 Got the camera, I'm messing with that 1222 01:11:13,701 --> 01:11:15,703 and I'm just going inside of the house. 1223 01:11:15,737 --> 01:11:18,206 And nobody was right here at all, 1224 01:11:18,238 --> 01:11:21,009 nobody was in the house, it was just me. 1225 01:11:21,041 --> 01:11:24,278 Uh, and I'm walking by and all of a sudden, I hear this ball 1226 01:11:24,312 --> 01:11:28,050 falling, falling down the stairs and there it is. 1227 01:11:29,850 --> 01:11:31,987 We're checking if we have it on camera right now. 1228 01:11:33,554 --> 01:11:36,892 There's the ball and it came from up there. 1229 01:11:36,925 --> 01:11:38,527 I like it, 1230 01:11:38,559 --> 01:11:40,261 but the fact that there's people in the house 1231 01:11:40,295 --> 01:11:41,997 moving around, all that stuff. 1232 01:11:42,029 --> 01:11:44,099 - Okay, yeah. - Just kinda makes me like... 1233 01:11:44,831 --> 01:11:46,600 I w... I was the only one in the house. 1234 01:11:46,634 --> 01:11:48,569 - Yeah, it's true. - You know what I mean? 1235 01:11:48,603 --> 01:11:50,071 - And I - Yeah, you were outside. 1236 01:11:50,104 --> 01:11:51,673 I... I promise, dude. 1237 01:11:51,706 --> 01:11:53,842 Like I... this whole thing's about honesty, 1238 01:11:53,875 --> 01:11:56,176 like I'm honest with you guys. 1239 01:11:56,210 --> 01:11:58,647 I was walking with the ball as it was 1240 01:11:58,679 --> 01:12:00,047 - We just saw. - I heard a noise 1241 01:12:00,081 --> 01:12:01,181 and I looked over and it was like 1242 01:12:01,215 --> 01:12:03,185 dunk, dunk, dunk, dunk, dunk. 1243 01:12:05,286 --> 01:12:07,154 I mean we have like f...-. 1244 01:12:07,188 --> 01:12:09,791 I mean this is the clip, this is the footage we've been waiting, 1245 01:12:09,823 --> 01:12:12,193 like this is evidence that we've been waiting to get. 1246 01:12:14,127 --> 01:12:17,299 - Who's that? - Oh, that must be Alice. 1247 01:12:20,033 --> 01:12:21,835 Uh-oh. Oh, dude! 1248 01:12:21,868 --> 01:12:23,971 - Can you pull it back? - Oh yeah. 1249 01:12:25,907 --> 01:12:27,609 What are... like what are your thoughts? 1250 01:12:27,642 --> 01:12:29,176 I'm really curious, what do you think? 1251 01:12:29,210 --> 01:12:31,046 Well... I mean, you guys see this all... look see that 1252 01:12:31,078 --> 01:12:33,114 Okay, I'm gonna pause it, I'm gonna frame this. 1253 01:12:34,282 --> 01:12:35,884 - Hey guys! - Yeah? 1254 01:12:35,916 --> 01:12:37,618 - There's nobody in here. - What? 1255 01:12:37,652 --> 01:12:39,254 - Get outta here! - So, we had a door move? 1256 01:12:39,287 --> 01:12:40,556 I don't know. 1257 01:12:41,756 --> 01:12:43,858 But it... it sounded like the front door opened or closed. 1258 01:12:44,626 --> 01:12:46,161 - But... - No, I definitely heard that. 1259 01:12:46,193 --> 01:12:47,161 I... you thought it was Alice. 1260 01:12:49,130 --> 01:12:52,067 Dude, I got freaking chills on my hand right now. 1261 01:12:54,234 --> 01:12:55,804 - Wait a second, look, no - Get outta here. 1262 01:12:55,836 --> 01:12:56,804 - No, wait, wait, wait. - What? 1263 01:12:56,837 --> 01:12:58,305 Let's hear that. Okay. 1264 01:12:58,339 --> 01:13:00,341 I think the wind probably blew it open. 1265 01:13:00,907 --> 01:13:01,741 Alright. 1266 01:13:01,776 --> 01:13:03,812 I mean that would be my assessment. 1267 01:13:07,381 --> 01:13:09,183 - I think that's what it was. - Okay. 1268 01:13:09,216 --> 01:13:10,384 - Honestly, I think - Yep. 1269 01:13:10,417 --> 01:13:12,219 Everybody just for whatever reason leaves this door like 1270 01:13:12,252 --> 01:13:13,287 this, it's never really 1271 01:13:13,321 --> 01:13:14,689 You know? 1272 01:13:14,721 --> 01:13:16,190 But that doesn't explain the ball. 1273 01:13:18,725 --> 01:13:20,194 What do you think? 1274 01:13:20,228 --> 01:13:23,031 I mean it's happened in this house many times. 1275 01:13:23,063 --> 01:13:24,965 Like eight or nine times. 1276 01:13:24,998 --> 01:13:26,969 So, I mean it's always exciting when it happens. 1277 01:13:27,734 --> 01:13:29,371 It's always exciting when it happens. 1278 01:13:33,206 --> 01:13:35,209 I mean that door sound is interesting. 1279 01:13:35,242 --> 01:13:37,312 And you know the thing is, I mean it could be wind, right? 1280 01:13:37,345 --> 01:13:39,147 We... well, yeah. 1281 01:13:39,179 --> 01:13:41,215 The doors open? 1282 01:13:43,785 --> 01:13:45,319 So, it closes by itself. 1283 01:13:45,353 --> 01:13:47,221 - Wait a minute. - Well, assuming it's that door. 1284 01:13:47,889 --> 01:13:49,958 Because I thought it was that front door 1285 01:13:49,991 --> 01:13:52,794 swinging open and hitting the closet door. 1286 01:13:54,127 --> 01:13:55,663 But the door's open right now. 1287 01:13:57,364 --> 01:14:00,167 So, it either wasn't that door, it was a different door. 1288 01:14:01,469 --> 01:14:03,372 Definitely sounded like a door closing. 1289 01:14:17,285 --> 01:14:20,022 A few days went by and I was wondering what that noise was. 1290 01:14:22,090 --> 01:14:24,759 Something that I wanted to figure out. 1291 01:14:24,791 --> 01:14:26,428 And it was just bothering me, it was frustrating me for real. 1292 01:14:27,461 --> 01:14:30,165 It was a frustrating four or five days, I think. 1293 01:14:30,197 --> 01:14:31,999 I was trying to figure out what it was. 1294 01:14:33,166 --> 01:14:36,671 The camera back there, it was aiming that way behind me. 1295 01:14:37,170 --> 01:14:38,872 And I noticed some movement 1296 01:14:38,906 --> 01:14:42,010 in the reflection of the chandelier. 1297 01:14:42,876 --> 01:14:47,682 It has a brass ball like un... un... un... beneath it. 1298 01:14:49,015 --> 01:14:50,919 So, I started looking closer at that 1299 01:14:50,952 --> 01:14:53,155 and I zoomed in and then bam! 1300 01:15:21,215 --> 01:15:23,051 My heart started racing. 1301 01:15:24,417 --> 01:15:27,421 What I saw you know, 1302 01:15:27,455 --> 01:15:32,093 were two... two different doors um, opening. 1303 01:15:32,126 --> 01:15:33,995 And then one of 'em open and closed. 1304 01:15:35,496 --> 01:15:38,132 It was like something... it was like something just came through. 1305 01:15:39,233 --> 01:15:41,803 It's one thing to capture a door opening, 1306 01:15:41,836 --> 01:15:43,805 but it's really a different level 1307 01:15:43,837 --> 01:15:46,140 when you see a door open and then close itself. 1308 01:15:46,808 --> 01:15:49,144 Like that I mean I haven't seen that before. 1309 01:15:50,377 --> 01:15:54,215 Now I can't tell you what... what the heck did that. 1310 01:15:54,247 --> 01:15:58,318 But something moved not only the chandelier 1311 01:15:58,352 --> 01:16:00,154 but opened and closed doors. 1312 01:16:03,190 --> 01:16:04,859 It's very interesting. 1313 01:16:05,593 --> 01:16:07,362 That's important to me. 1314 01:16:14,335 --> 01:16:15,504 Theoretically, 1315 01:16:16,103 --> 01:16:17,971 a gust of wind could open it maybe, 1316 01:16:18,005 --> 01:16:20,108 but open and close it, two of 'em? 1317 01:16:21,108 --> 01:16:22,811 In theory, I guess it's possible. 1318 01:16:25,846 --> 01:16:31,152 Don't forget you know, minutes, minutes before that 1319 01:16:31,986 --> 01:16:33,854 a baseball 1320 01:16:35,089 --> 01:16:36,925 was flipped down the steps. 1321 01:16:38,125 --> 01:16:39,895 And the doors were closed. 1322 01:16:41,028 --> 01:16:43,198 Not to mention there was hardly any breeze at all. 1323 01:16:43,230 --> 01:16:45,332 This is a Mississippi hot summer day. 1324 01:16:46,233 --> 01:16:49,470 So... so when you bundle all that up 1325 01:16:50,403 --> 01:16:51,538 and you look at that, 1326 01:16:51,572 --> 01:16:54,509 that is some dramatic activity 1327 01:16:56,477 --> 01:17:00,215 all within minutes. 1328 01:17:02,483 --> 01:17:05,186 You see now we got lights like coming... 1329 01:17:05,219 --> 01:17:06,822 yeah, those lights are freaking out. 1330 01:17:13,327 --> 01:17:16,031 I don't have all the answers, I just don't think it was normal. 1331 01:17:16,964 --> 01:17:18,600 You know, was it a ghost? 1332 01:17:18,632 --> 01:17:20,134 Yeah, it could be. 1333 01:17:20,166 --> 01:17:23,237 It wasn't a human in physical form. 1334 01:17:38,653 --> 01:17:41,256 This is... and this is gonna continue on. 1335 01:17:41,288 --> 01:17:43,992 It's... it's not to the point where she'll just be, 1336 01:17:44,024 --> 01:17:45,460 "Okay, it's over with." 1337 01:17:45,492 --> 01:17:47,227 Until we can figure out what's going on, 1338 01:17:47,260 --> 01:17:48,662 Miss Alice is going to wanna 1339 01:17:48,696 --> 01:17:51,431 pursue and keep trying to find the answers. 1340 01:17:51,465 --> 01:17:52,600 What created those lights? 1341 01:17:52,632 --> 01:17:53,901 And I'll be right by her side. 1342 01:17:53,934 --> 01:17:56,504 We're... we're gonna do this together and figure this out. 1343 01:17:58,973 --> 01:18:00,575 Bless Alice, Lord. 1344 01:18:00,608 --> 01:18:02,911 And be with her always. 1345 01:18:02,943 --> 01:18:05,179 I think the attraction to all of it is, 1346 01:18:06,246 --> 01:18:09,884 there's always been the question, what's after death? 1347 01:18:10,283 --> 01:18:13,220 And anybody who hasn't thought about, that is a liar. 1348 01:18:17,023 --> 01:18:20,060 I think if you find proof of ghost, 1349 01:18:20,094 --> 01:18:22,430 then you found your proof of life after death. 1350 01:18:23,063 --> 01:18:25,299 And you don't have to just take it on faith. 1351 01:18:25,332 --> 01:18:28,569 And we being human beings, we'd like to have proof of it. 1352 01:18:29,202 --> 01:18:31,371 Uh, I really think that's the attraction of it. 1353 01:18:31,404 --> 01:18:34,975 I... I think that that will always be the attraction of ghost stories. 1354 01:18:37,979 --> 01:18:40,315 I think this is one of those mysterious areas of life 1355 01:18:41,514 --> 01:18:43,517 that this is gonna have to be something that people deal with 1356 01:18:43,550 --> 01:18:46,286 in their own hearts, their own minds. 1357 01:18:46,319 --> 01:18:47,654 And come to their own conclusions. 1358 01:18:47,688 --> 01:18:49,556 And just be true to themselves. 1359 01:19:14,715 --> 01:19:17,552 When I was growing up, my grandmother 1360 01:19:17,585 --> 01:19:21,756 told us one time that uh, they had a ghost in their house. 1361 01:19:21,788 --> 01:19:25,559 Every night that ghost would come there and go up the steps. 1362 01:19:25,593 --> 01:19:27,729 So finally, they decided they would go 1363 01:19:27,761 --> 01:19:30,764 and they would find out what the ghost was. 1364 01:19:30,797 --> 01:19:32,767 So, they went out that night 1365 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,069 and about the middle of the night, 1366 01:19:35,102 --> 01:19:39,407 here come several goats going up and down the steps, 1367 01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,375 up and down the steps. 1368 01:19:42,609 --> 01:19:46,747 So, their ghost was a goat ghost. Debunk.